New Rules of Engagement For Border Patrol Agents (Seriously):
1. Run
2. Hide
3. If 1 and 2 Fail To Work, In Extreme Cases, You Are Permitted to "Throw Things" At Your Attackers
Turns out the "only beanbags are approved against perps armed with AK-47's" guidance was too bloodthirsty, and left too much to Border agents' discretion.
Now comes news that a Border Patrol training video is instructing agents that, when confronted by a shooter. they should “run away” and “hide”. Only as a last resort, if they are cornered, should agents get “aggressive” and “throw things” at the perps.Can these things I throw be hard, or do they have to be made of a Nerf-like sponge material? I've discussed the paper rule vs. the real rule before. In the case of finding possible jihadist sympathizers in the military, for example: if the paper rule is that you're supposed to report your suspicions, but what actually happens is you get branded "anti-Islamic" and have your career derailed if you do, then the real rule is "do not report suspicions about jihadist sympathizers." On the Border, the paper rule is to investigate and possibly detain suspected drug smugglers, gun runners, and illegal border crossers. But the guidance on the use of force is Let them kill you, because if you draw a weapon, we'll fire you. So the real rule is "Do not investigate border crossers." This works out great for corrupt administrations, who can point to the paper rule as evidence of their desire to secure the border, and of course the media will not confront them with the real rule.
Comments
Posted by: Max Power at July 13, 2012 04:06 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Max Power at July 13, 2012 04:06 PM (q177U)
I vote to be like Campos, alive though in jail.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:07 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:08 PM (Ts9tU)
Can't divert the resources. There's an epidemic of killer self-driving SUVs. The public must be informed.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 13, 2012 04:08 PM (ZKzrr)
Watching Meghan McCain speak at the Washington, D.C. Jewish Community Center Thursday night was like watching a square peg try to fit into a round hole.
The 27-year-old daughter of former GOP presidential candidate and Ariz. senator John McCain dutifully declared to the audience how patriotic she was, how much she loved guns and the military, and that she believed in small government.
But when it came to answering the interviewer’s questions, McCain landed a number of times on what appeared to be the other side of the political divide. McCain’s responses at the DCJCC below, edited down for brevity.
On climate change deniers: ”I can’t even touch that. Is climate change a liberal issue? We’re having the hottest summer on record, and wildfires for a reason.”
On gun control: ”I’m a big second amendment rights supporter, but I’ve changed my mind about how much you need. There is no need to have more than 30 rounds at a time. Especially after Gabby Giffords.”
On gay marriage: ”I think gay marriage is civil rights. This generation just wants their friends to have equal rights.”
On abortion: ”I personally am pro-life, but I don’t want to repeal Roe v. Wade. I think there would be riots in the streets. It’s such a private choice for a woman and I don’t like telling people how they should live their lives. Talking about abortion makes me uncomfortable, the vaginal probe [issue] makes me uncomfortable, and it shames women.”
On marijuana legalization: ”Look what’s going on with marijuana in this country. I just smoked it this book.”
On who she’d like to see as a Republican president, other than her father: ”Is Mitt Romney the wrong answer? [laughs] I’d like to see Lindsay Graham or Joe Lieberman.”
Keep reading…
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:08 PM (Ts9tU)
On the canadian border you should play dead. Grizzlies?
Posted by: yerro at July 13, 2012 04:09 PM (S/y/t)
..."This ain't Bean Bag!"
Er....correction.....I guess it is....Guarding our Border is a game of Bean Bag.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 04:09 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:09 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: dan-O at July 13, 2012 04:10 PM (sWycd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:10 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: dan-O at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (sWycd)
Not until I accidentally ingest a common household chemical and need to induce vomiting while on hold with the local poison control center.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Max Power at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (q177U)
>>So the real rule is "Do not investigate border crossers."
But there's a quota for capturing border crossers, of course.
Posted by: Evil BP Manager. at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: dogfish at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: The Q at July 13, 2012 04:11 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Max Power at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (q177U)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (Ts9tU)
Ace:
"Can these things I throw be hard, or do they have to be made of a Nerf-like sponge material?"
I guess paint-ball guns are too expensive?
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Roy at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at July 13, 2012 04:12 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:13 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: dogfish at July 13, 2012 04:14 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Cardinal Ximénez at July 13, 2012 04:14 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Roy at July 13, 2012 04:14 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Matticus Finch at July 13, 2012 04:14 PM (0Mr4u)
Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2012 04:15 PM (MMC8r)
There's gonna be a shortage. France doesn't work in August.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 13, 2012 04:15 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Tami at July 13, 2012 04:16 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:07 PM (TOmAa)
I thought Bush commuted their sentences.
Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2012 04:16 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Matticus Finch at July 13, 2012 04:16 PM (0Mr4u)
Any by "throw" do you mean forcefully send an objecttoward the perp powered by a smokeless propellent?
God have mercy on our Border Guards.
Posted by: Max Entropy at July 13, 2012 04:16 PM (h+yUa)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 13, 2012 04:16 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: moki at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (SUKHu)
If we could convince DHS these Mexicans are strict-Constitutionalist, liberty-loving middle aged suburbanites with a hard on for lower government spending, she'd authorize shoot on sight ROE.
Posted by: MTF at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mark at July 13, 2012 04:18 PM (RcFeB)
Ack!
Huckabee on Cavuto right now.....just said that "I think if George W Bush were on the ballot this year, he would win!"
He's talking about the idea of Condi for VP.
He likes her....but doesn't like her pro-choice stance, of course.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 04:18 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 13, 2012 04:18 PM (Ho2rs)
>>>>Keep reading…
How long can 15 minutes of fame possibly last???
Hopefully after the election she will be old news.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:19 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 04:19 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: NeoKong at July 13, 2012 04:20 PM (w5v/W)
Section. 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this
Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against
Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the
Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
I think its time for the Gov of Arizona, to send a Letter to Congress, declaring herself invaded, AND having domestic Violence.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:20 PM (lZBBB)
In unrelated news, hand grenade, and shuriken futures skyrocket.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at July 13, 2012 04:21 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Zell Miller at July 13, 2012 04:21 PM (9hSLN)
Posted by: Alex at July 13, 2012 04:21 PM (79B50)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:22 PM (lZBBB)
Zell Miller is a pinwheel in his grave right now.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 13, 2012 04:22 PM (G/zuv)
President Bush granted Ramos and Compean clemency. I should have double checked myself before posting. But my point stands. Those agents lived while Terry, under the Bean bag Rules, lies dead and four of his killers are still on the loose 18 months later.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:23 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:20 PM (lZBBB)
I'm inclined to agree, but in the case of the current administration I think that the "cure" (which would undoubtedly be some version of: round up all private gun owners and other "subversives") would be worse than the disease.
Posted by: Nighthawk at July 13, 2012 04:24 PM (bi9SV)
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2012 04:24 PM (otEo7)
47....I think its time for the Gov of Arizona, to send a Letter to Congress, declaring herself invaded, AND having domestic Violence.
I thinkshe already did something likethat.
And so did Texas.
They've also sued the Fed. Govt. to recoup the expenses incurred, in dealing with the the invading illegals.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2012 04:24 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 04:24 PM (GvYeG)
Where have you gone, Mama Cass' ham sandwich? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2012 04:24 PM (T0NGe)
Aceyou aresoooo hot today! you are turning me on.
Anywho.
This whole day is just full of the news suck isn't it?
Posted by: Madamemayhem at July 13, 2012 04:25 PM (iRgZG)
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2012 04:25 PM (z1N6a)
>>This post plus Steevy's Meggy comment has got me re-evaluating the human condition.
If that's code for "about to start drinking heavily", I'm with you.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:25 PM (SUKHu)
I'm not dead yet.
Posted by: Zell Miller at July 13, 2012 04:26 PM (9hSLN)
Repeatedly calling Romney "brilliant". Huck is pandering for the VP job. Ain't no way Huck. You got your Willie Horton five times. And dogs, too.
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 13, 2012 04:26 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:22 PM (lZBBB)
The problem with giving every tom, dick, and Stockton a private army is that they feel the need to put them to use.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 13, 2012 04:26 PM (z1N6a)
http://tinyurl.com/6w7bmzy
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:26 PM (TOmAa)
They have a pic of Bambi riding his bicycle with the helmet on next to a pic of Janet Napolitano.
At the bottom is this, "Amnesty Granted by President Obama", underneath that there is a US flag upside down and the word 'DICTATOR' with the O in it as the Obama O.
May be the only union I like.
Posted by: Tami at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (Ts9tU)
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We wrote about this last week. This is the DHS training video for it's employees on how to deal with an active shooter situation. In a tyical ham-handed fashion this policy apparently covered all DHS employees, regardless if they were armed LEOs or civilian employees. The Border Patrol is part of DHS, so, therefore, Border Patrol agents are to run and hide from active shooters.
It may not necessarily be wrong to tell unarmed civils to run and hide from an active shooter, this policy is counter to current doctine on how LEOs are to deal with active shooters. Succinctly put, LEOs are to immediately seek and engage an active shooter in order to disrupt the shooter's plan.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: moki at July 13, 2012 04:17 PM (dZmFh)
Moki, it's going to get orders of magnitude worse even after Romney wins. The libs, socialist, commies and their ilk are too ingrained into every aspect of government, MFM, with but one goal.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (mFxQX)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (Ts9tU)
>>On gun control: ”I’m a big second amendment rights supporter, but I’ve changed my mind about how much you need. There is no need to have more than 30 rounds at a time. Especially after Gabby Giffords.”
>>On Border Patrol ammo: "I think bean bags could be overused, so no more than 20 would be okay. Well, 18, after I strategically place two of them."
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:28 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:29 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (M0NzJ)
Yup.... only the US Military runs TOWARDS the sound of gunfire...
Posted by: Abdhul the Dead Terrorist at July 13, 2012 04:29 PM (lZBBB)
If that's code for "about to start drinking heavily", I'm with you.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:25 PM
Amateurs.
Posted by: Foster Brooks at July 13, 2012 04:29 PM (RcFeB)
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at July 13, 2012 04:29 PM (x7g7t)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:30 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Janet Reno at July 13, 2012 04:31 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:31 PM (TOmAa)
You know 000 buckshot kind of resembles beans...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 13, 2012 04:31 PM (Vcb44)
I HATE these assholes. If you don't vote for Romney you are a moron, and not the good kind.
Next time I will tell you how I really feel.
Posted by: Midaz at July 13, 2012 04:31 PM (cNFEL)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:32 PM (SUKHu)
Give them Apache helicopters armed with rubber 20mm rounds.
Posted by: Alex at July 13, 2012 04:32 PM (79B50)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 13, 2012 04:32 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2012 04:33 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:33 PM (SUKHu)
That sounds familiar. I have been in the position of teaching self-defense in situations where you're dealing with ALL personnel from an organization. The basic tenet is: get away from the person who is attacking you! Block their strikes if you must, but get out as fast as you can.
Now, that does not apply to the people who are trained, and whose job it is to engage violent perps, and yet I think they had to go through the routine, company-wide training just like everybody else.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:35 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:35 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:36 PM (TOmAa)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 13, 2012 04:27 PM (M0NzJ)
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And after all the shooting is over, the LEO's are to give the shooters a map of the US and send them on their way.
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2012 04:36 PM (otEo7)
Succinctly put, LEOs are to immediately seek and engage an active shooter in order to disrupt the shooter's plan.
Under my new directive, Border Patrol agents have been instructed to ask if they can share the same needle.
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at July 13, 2012 04:36 PM (7+pP9)
TheOtherMcCain dot com really wants you to look at his story re the Aussie boobie bandit.
Not exactly safe for work...
If you can manage to scroll down past that, there's a post about linking Timmy G. to the LIBOR scandal.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:37 PM (SUKHu)
I was told there would be no 'googling to understand references' here.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:33 PM
You can't handle the truth!
Posted by: Colonel Nathan R. Jessup at July 13, 2012 04:37 PM (RcFeB)
They should be shooting to kill the SOBs (within reason of course, you don't want to kill an innocent hunter who's not aiming at you). Fire should be returned with deadly fire.
And at this point, we need to get our military involved a little in pushing back on the cartels and cartel backed Mexican enforcers.
Posted by: Sphynx at July 13, 2012 04:38 PM (fEmj2)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:35 PM (Ts9tU)
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Back in the good old days of the Dean Martin Roast. Cocktails, cigarettes, and offensive adult humor. We'll never see the likes of them again.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 13, 2012 04:38 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 13, 2012 04:31 PM (TOmAa)
Go on...
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 13, 2012 04:38 PM (v+QvA)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:38 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 13, 2012 04:38 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:39 PM (SUKHu)
Here is the Obama campaign's response to a possible Rice VP:
((((CRICKETS))))
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 13, 2012 04:39 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Yeff at July 13, 2012 04:40 PM (TIuoo)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2012 04:34 PM (TOk1P)
Yep.... used to train my US Navy Boarding Team to go over the side, as long as everyone from the team could do it....
Then.... stand off and watch my Destroyers 50 Cals, 30MM Chain, and 5 Inchers go to work....
But that was a 'little' bit different from what these folks are advocating...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:40 PM (lZBBB)
>>Ace did a thread on that story a couple of days ago.
With the Geithner connection?
Maybe I should start reading the posts...
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:40 PM (SUKHu)
Heh, there was a scene in one of those Charlie Sheen parody movies, where he was Rambo or Top Gun or whatever, and he can't stop long enough to reload his weapon as the bad guys are attacking, so he grabs a handful of rounds from a big open container, throws them at the bad guys, and they all fall, just as they had when he was shooting them.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2012 04:40 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:41 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:39 PM (SUKHu)
In the south a high % of people are born in the summer months.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 13, 2012 04:41 PM (mFxQX)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:42 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 13, 2012 04:43 PM (BVkEs)
OK Tubby McTubberson I guess we'lllimit border patrol to 30 bean bags as well.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 13, 2012 04:43 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:42 PM (Ts9tU)
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No truer words have ever been spoken.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 13, 2012 04:43 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 04:43 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:42 PM (Ts9tU)
Gun Control means controling the muzzle rise for the second shot of a double tap....
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:44 PM (lZBBB)
Here is the Obama campaign's response to a possible Rice VP: ((((CRICKETS))))
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 13, 2012 04:39 PM
They don't believe it either.
Posted by: Mark at July 13, 2012 04:44 PM (RcFeB)
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:45 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 13, 2012 04:45 PM (C8mVl)
>>OK Tubby McTubberson I guess we'll limit border patrol to 30 bean bags as well.
I quoted her (ish) at #71.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:46 PM (SUKHu)
I think its time for the Gov of Arizona, to send a Letter to Congress, declaring herself invaded, AND having domestic Violence.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 13, 2012 04:20 PM (lZBBB)
What would Teddy Roosevelt have done?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop in solidarity with dagny at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 13, 2012 04:47 PM (X/+QT)
He would have declared it a monopoly and broke it up.
Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2012 04:48 PM (YdQQY)
>>In the south a high % of people are born in the summer months.
Leos are awesome people and not at all full of themselves.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2012 04:48 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:50 PM (Ts9tU)
110 104 A man worth shooting is a man worth killing.
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 04:42 PM (Ts9tU)
My grandfather was a member of the Pennsylvani State Police during the 1940's. In their barracks was a poster with a Gadsden Flag type rattlesnake, under which were the words "Most Deadly When Wounded."
That wouldn't be allowed now.
Related: I shot the last box of his .38 Special hand loads. They made +P+ loads look like .32s
Posted by: State Trooper Grandson at July 13, 2012 04:56 PM (7+pP9)
Liberal: "I hate guns...they're only designed to kill people!"
Me: "Some people need killin'"
Liberal: *mouth agape*
Posted by: model_1066 at July 13, 2012 04:58 PM (YbQJm)
Posted by: @PurpAv at July 13, 2012 04:58 PM (vixME)
Posted by: willow at July 13, 2012 04:58 PM (TomZ9)
You're a Leo, aren't ya?? NTTAWWT of course...
Posted by: JMKN1 at July 13, 2012 04:58 PM (JMKN1)
Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 13, 2012 04:19 PM (GvYeG)
I shoot 30 rounds just to warm up the barrel
Posted by: The Jackhole at July 13, 2012 04:59 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: steevy at July 13, 2012 05:09 PM (Ts9tU)
"President: OK to Kill Immigrants"
and
"Romney Issues Border Shoot-to-Kill Rules"
Which is why it's both good leadership and good PR to let the agency decide what ROE they need and then sign off on it. "This is what the BP agents said they could live with."
Posted by: Arms Merchant at July 13, 2012 05:19 PM (+XVQe)
and I like the op, a quotation of a quotation. So in order for you to get the desired result, conservatives have to distill things across several people so the message fits their narrative. Here's the thing, border patrol agents often travel in groups of 1 or 2. Cartel patrols operate with several. You don't want to get in a firefight you can't win.
Posted by: t at July 13, 2012 05:26 PM (67XWV)
Posted by: Big Mclargehuge at July 13, 2012 05:26 PM (j4l8D)
So can the BP throw chairs? Is that un-Islamic? Or maybe they could throw unsold Chevy Volts. Win-win.
Posted by: PJ at July 13, 2012 05:31 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2012 05:31 PM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Randy M at July 13, 2012 05:34 PM (vI8R6)
Posted by: reason at July 13, 2012 05:35 PM (CGjum)
1) You are allowed to throw slugs at the attackers at high speed using slug throwing devices.
2) If that doesn't work then in extreme cases you are allowed to call in airstrikes.
Posted by: chaz at July 13, 2012 05:36 PM (wXuYy)
Who killed more Mexicans, Holder or Holden in the "Wild Bunch"?
Posted by: Ingemar Johansson at July 13, 2012 06:04 PM (aZcPb)
Posted by: Barack "Thug" Obama at July 13, 2012 07:33 PM (yWDpP)
Well, isn't that just dandy.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 13, 2012 08:17 PM (F0o5k)
And yet.... in Stockton Calif last year, a SWAT team was called by the Education Dept. over a Student Loan?
Posted by: elliot at July 14, 2012 01:23 AM (blkVM)
Posted by: elliot at July 14, 2012 01:33 AM (blkVM)
Posted by: elliot at July 14, 2012 01:36 AM (blkVM)
Shooting Projectiles from a 50 caliber Barret, or Ma Duece (Browning M2), Launching Hellfire Missles, Firing M4 Projectiles, Flame throwers, and launching nukes all count as "throwing things".
Welcome to Texas, conservative jurisprudence.
And as for you gun toting, illegal alien, border crossing interlopers..do you prefer toasted to medium...or well done and crispy?
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at July 14, 2012 02:03 AM (XNJ88)
Posted by: facepalm at July 14, 2012 06:24 PM (Y+DIS)
Posted by: President Fartas at July 15, 2012 07:02 PM (QIE/u)
Posted by: 18MonthsToGo at July 16, 2012 07:53 AM (rXM7i)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 16, 2012 12:26 PM (exvgC)
I work on a federal installation, and I, too, underwent this training as part of a standard package of employee training. The training is for unarmed office workers -- unarmed because we are forbidden from possessing firearms even in our locked vehicles -- confronted with an "inside" threat to help us survive. It is not, to my knowledge, a "policy", certainly not one intended for armed BP officers.
That said, it was pretty thoughtless torequire this for border patrol agents withoutadditional explanation.
Posted by: Ö at July 16, 2012 06:57 PM (RuF8n)
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John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)