Joe Biden's Hometown Of Scranton, PA Is Broke So Mayor Cuts Everyone's Pay To Minimum Wage

First Stockton, CA now Scranton, PA.

Drink!

Scranton Mayor Chris Doherty cut everyone's pay -- including his own -- on Friday, saying the state's sixth-largest city is broke because the City Council blocked his proposed tax increase. Doherty, a Democrat, warned nearly 400 police officers, firefighters and public works employees about his doomsday plan, prompting a Lackawanna County judge to order the city to pay full wages to all employees, citing that it is a violation of their contracts. Hours later, the payday envelopes went out, and, despite the judge's order, they were light.

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The city of Scranton has battled budget woes for years, but the problems reached a boiling point after the City Council blocked Doherty's plan to raise taxes to cover a $16.8 million shortfall, opting instead to borrow money to cover the budget gap.

“The mayor is trying to strong-arm the council into doing what he wants, but it’s the city’s employees that are paying the price,” [president of the local firefighters union John] Judge said, adding that the workers in his department saw their paystubs go from about $1,500 every two weeks after deductions to a gross pay of about $600. “This is not a case of no cash. It’s a cash-flow problem.”

Well, no. If your solution to a problem is a 29% tax hike as the mayor has proposed, you have a spending problem not a cash flow problem.

Public unions, including cops and firefighters, need to understand that residents aren't simply piggy banks that can be raided at will forever and ever. Public services are created to ensure a certain quality of life but at some point the equation tips the other way and the "services" become a unbearable burden.

Citizens don't exist to serve the needs of public sector workers. As the costs become prohibitive, they will either find another way to get the services, move or simply do without.

Public workers, including first responders, really need to understand something....no one is irreplaceable.


Posted by: DrewM. at 09:36 AM



Comments

1 Magnificent. Let the blue-on-blue war begin. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 10, 2012 09:39 AM (xUM1Q)

2 I'm sure somehow this is Bain's (i.e. Romney's) fault.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at July 10, 2012 09:41 AM (dL9LY)

3 I think Creed embezzled it all.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 10, 2012 09:41 AM (Ec6wH)

4 Joe Biden's a former Republican, and Welsh coal miner.



#BeatingOnAmerica

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 09:42 AM (evdj2)

5
If the federal/state government wasn't taking so much money, then there would be more money for local concerns.
Of all the taxes I pay, my Local Earned Income is the one I hate the least. I can actually see what is being done with my money.
I just don't want to pay anymore because every other government agency is taking larger and larger sums out of my income.
Local Earned Income Tax, Property Tax, State Withholding tax, Social Security Tax, Medicare Tax, Local Services Tax, Federal Earned Income Tax, Capital Gains Tax, State Sales Tax...The list goes on.

Posted by: Ben at July 10, 2012 09:42 AM (C2Y4l)

6 Lulz...
Oh wait. My governor doubled down on High Speed Rail...

Well at least we can embarrass the bald dope by killing Prop 30.

Posted by: CAC at July 10, 2012 09:44 AM (Vl1h4)

7 When they threaten the Public with cuts to the useless paper pushers, I'll know they are truly desperate.

The dam will break soon.

Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 09:45 AM (ejmiE)

8 Two days ago we had a large tree limb fall onto a power line and disrupt power to the entire street. The 13,000 volt line snapped near the transformer, so nothing was dangling, and the only issue was the large tree limb blocking the street.

3 police cars, one fire SUV, one pumper and one traffic control officer responded, and stayed for almost two hours until the problem was fixed.

They simply do not care about the money they waste, because it isn't theirs!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 09:45 AM (nEUpB)

9 What Scranton needs is a big, fat sewer project.

Posted by: Birmingham Democrats at July 10, 2012 09:48 AM (IoNBC)

10 The Obama economy. yeah baby!

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 09:48 AM (GvYeG)

11 Yeah, but what really annoys me is that there often isn't a sense that "essential services" (police and fire) are essential services. When forced cuts finally come, you're just as likely to lose a police officer as you are a park maintenance worker. I like parks, but we could get by without them if we had to. Getting by without fire protection would be a bit more difficult.

Posted by: longerthoughts at July 10, 2012 09:50 AM (CVVLU)

12 As a PR move, cutting wages is brilliant. As a strategy, it's a mixed bag.

The best and brightest of the bunch will jump ship leaving the mollusks and slugs behind. So, the good news is you just reduced payroll significantly through attrition. The bad news is all you have left are mollusks and slugs.

Whoever coined the term City "Services" was a practical joker of the first order.

Posted by: A Monkey On Crack at July 10, 2012 09:50 AM (O7Q1u)

13 Forget for a moment the immorality of the ad infinitum tax hikes. For example, elderly hardest hit. Think of the practicality. Scranton ain't a destination. You raise taxes even a little and people move out.

A "29% tax hike" will NOT raise revenues by anything close to 29%.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 09:50 AM (J5tI6)

14 Does this mean Scranton isn't going to install footbaths in all public restrooms?

Posted by: Doug 'Ibrahim' Hooper at July 10, 2012 09:51 AM (zThit)

15
Citizens don't exist to serve the needs of public sector workers. As the costs become prohibitive, they will either find another way to get the services, move or simply do without.


Indeed, one might say that public servants are there to serve (drumroll please)... THE PUBLIC.

*GASP!*

Shocking, I know

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 09:51 AM (4df7R)

16 the mayor was on TV. he seemed to have a basic grasp of economics. "we don't have the money to pay more than min. wage."

he could not be a Democrat

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 10, 2012 09:51 AM (p3a8+)

17 #12, is "elderly hardest hit" an argument against it, though? This is one thing I don't get. Everything I read tells me that the elderly have more money than your average adult. Yet everywhere you go, senior citizens get discounts. Why? If anything they should be paying more.

I can write this because my grandma doesn't have the internet.

Posted by: longerthoughts at July 10, 2012 09:53 AM (CVVLU)

18
" as The best and brightest of the bunch will jump ship leaving the mollusks and slugs behind. So, the good news is you just reduced payroll significantly through attrition. The bad news is all you have left are mollusks and slugs."a resident of the city for 4...err 6 years, whatever it took to get my M.S. in Womyn's studies, I can assure you that happend a few generations ago. Joe Biden up and left Scranton...can you imagine what is left ?

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 09:54 AM (lOnIe)

19 When they threaten the Public with cuts to the useless paper pushers, I'll know they are truly desperate. The dam will break soon.

Yes, the favorite tactic of the tax and spend donks.....we will cut fireman, police and 9-1-1 operators......but never any mention of actually firingone of the three completely useless paper shufflers over at the water department billing desk. You know, the one's you go in once a month to see to drop the bill off and, lo and behold,here is the activity:

1,Is doing a Soduku, Crossword, Massive Jumbo Word Find Problems and looks annoyed unless you can tell her what a6 letter word for bureacrat is that starts with an s, ends with a d and has a u forthe 3rd letter is........

2. Thesecond one is constantly on the phone with her sister/daughter/whoever so she can provide constant updates on the current crisis facing her family and
3. The third is either trying to help the first one with the crossword or gossiping with the second one and eating......always eating.

Gawd forbid will lose any of this fine public service!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 09:54 AM (OWjjx)

20 Every city and town should publish a full list of all occupied and unoccupied jobs. The list should include pay, benefits, and job requirements.

They will never do that.

Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 09:55 AM (ejmiE)

21 Yeah, but what really annoys me is that there often isn't a sense that "essential services" (police and fire) are essential services. When forced cuts finally come, you're just as likely to lose a police officer as you are a park maintenance worker. I like parks, but we could get by without them if we had to. Getting by without fire protection would be a bit more difficult.
Posted by: longerthoughts at July 10, 2012 09:50 AM (CVVLU)


That's why citizens have to start speaking up at public meetings and writing to their state legislators to say, "Hey, why are you threatening to cut fire and police jobs? How many penny ante bureaucrats have you got in XYZ Commission? Get rid of some of them first."

They use the police and fire spending cuts as a scare tactic, and when the public starts demanding safer streets or more effective emergency services, the muni governments use it as an excuse to say, "Well then, we'll have to raise your taxes. You know, if you'd just let us raise your taxes LAST time, Suzy Sassafrass wouldn't have been murdered last week." It's disgusting.

Speaking as a state employee , I can guarantee you that every government -- municipal, county, state, federal -- has plenty of deadwood that could be trimmed away. It's only the suffocating unions and the inertia of go-along-to-get-along that keeps it from happening.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 09:56 AM (4df7R)

22 Killer quote in the article: "My members are getting a check for $7.25 an hour. These are people that are the head of their households. They have mortgages. They have other living costs. They are now going to have to throw their bills in a hat and randomly pick what gets paid on time.”

Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Roy at July 10, 2012 09:57 AM (VndSC)

23 Just call Scranton the "Greece" of PA. It's interesting that the problem always boils down to same basic issue: excessive compensation and retirements for public "service" employees. What can't go on, won't.

Posted by: JimK at July 10, 2012 09:59 AM (ytgJH)

24 The purpose of government is to buy and coerce votes for Democrats.

Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 10:00 AM (ejmiE)

25 Every city and town should publish a full list of all occupied and unoccupied jobs. The list should include pay, benefits, and job requirements

One of the local papers, the Belleville News Democrat, actually does that for a number of the local government entitites. And right after they do that, the next council meeting, whatever, always has a few people show up asking why so and so is getting paid so much.........

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 10:00 AM (OWjjx)

26 "These are people that are the head of their households. They have mortgages..."

Looking for pity from me? I make $0/hr and I still have to pay their salary.

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2012 10:01 AM (FcR7P)

27 Imagine the payroll of the City of New York.

Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 10:03 AM (ejmiE)

28 I'm not irreplaceable. I'm unreplaceable.

Did someone say profile in courage awaard?

Posted by: Chief Justice McNuance at July 10, 2012 10:03 AM (jNROd)

29 >>They will never do that.

A lot of towns DO do that...the section of the local fishwrap behind the classifieds with the font 83% smaller than every other bit of the paper? "Public Notices"--info that cities and counties are required to publish by law. Once a year, they'll print the salary of each position. (Oh, you want a searchable database on a website? That costs money.)

Some weeks my county twice-weekly paper has more Public Notices than non-HS-sports news.

Posted by: SpinsterRadish at July 10, 2012 10:03 AM (ZKzrr)

30 Can anyone explain to me what this has to do with Kate Upton's tits?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:04 AM (rX1N2)

31 Times have been tough since the Dunder Mifflin bankruptcy.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2012 10:04 AM (gmeXX)

32 "Joe Biden up and left Scranton...can you imagine what is left?"

Higher average IQ?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:05 AM (rX1N2)

33 @24 - thats the long term premise of high speed rail in CA too. Get the central valley urbanized and hooked on all that state money...

Posted by: JEM at July 10, 2012 10:07 AM (o+SC1)

34 As go Scranton, so goes..........well, probably a bunch of other piss poorly run places I don't want to live or visit either.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 10:08 AM (OWjjx)

35
Mayor Chris Doherty filed a lawsuit June 21 in Lackawanna County Court against the four city council members who oppose his revised recovery plan that calls for 78% tax increases over three years.

The lawsuit asks a judge to either outright implement Mr. Doherty's recovery plan or order the council to pass the plan.




"I am the law!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 10:09 AM (kdS6q)

36 3 police cars, one fire SUV, one pumper and one traffic control officer
responded, and stayed for almost two hours until the problem was fixed.

They simply do not care about the money they waste, because it isn't theirs!


True, but not a good example.
They're not really wasting money just being there.
They bring everything just in case they might need it.
Why sit at the other end of the county doing nothing when you get direct 911 invitations to tonights fun.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 10:09 AM (864A5)

37 @30 - theyre a profit center, Scranton's a cost center.

Posted by: JEM at July 10, 2012 10:09 AM (o+SC1)

38 I like parks, but we could get by without them if we had to. Getting by without fire protection would be a bit more difficult.


A park is a space. Give me a box of trash bags, I can fill them for you. I can mow grass.


To show up with an ambulance and get someone out of a car wreck takes skills.

Posted by: fluffy at July 10, 2012 10:10 AM (z9HTb)

39 "These are people that are the head of their households. They have mortgages..."



Looking for pity from me? I make $0/hr and I still have to pay their salary.


And your own mortgage, phone and utilities, and don't forget that upcoming Obamacaretax.

Posted by: Retread at July 10, 2012 10:11 AM (I2fq9)

40 Impliment a law that says you're only allowed to approve payraises for your successor.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:11 AM (rX1N2)

41 38 I like parks, but we could get by without them if we had to. Getting by without fire protection would be a bit more difficult.


A park is a space. Give me a box of trash bags, I can fill them for you. I can mow grass.


To show up with an ambulance and get someone out of a car wreck takes skills.
Posted by: fluffy at July 10, 2012 10:10 AM (z9HTb)

OR, round up everyone that has a EBT card and make them clean the parks...

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 10:12 AM (136wp)

42 This is a big f-ing deal

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 10, 2012 10:12 AM (1Jaio)

43 This reminds me of the time Alan Grayson claimed on an interview on RedEye that he made min wage as a sitting Representative.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:13 AM (rX1N2)

44
Is your town broke? Democrats were here! Tax the rich!

Posted by: Fresh at July 10, 2012 10:14 AM (O7ksG)

45 >>OR, round up everyone that has a EBT card and make them clean the parks...

Don't you know it's cruel to expect the able-bodied to contribute to their own upkeep?! And raysiss.

Posted by: SpinsterRadish at July 10, 2012 10:16 AM (ZKzrr)

46 I am seriously rolling around in the schadenfreude about this. Doherty is a dick. He is a bag of dicks. He is a flaming jackass. I say this based on the fact that Scranton used to be my old stomping grounds and I had the complete and utter misfortune to deal with Doherty on a fairly routine basis. Let's just say that he got on my bad side and never did anything to change my opinion that he is an arrogant, entitled, snotty little weasel.

Scranton's been in a deep deep hole for years and not only because of creative bookkeeping. The area is, literally, dying off and there are few larger employers left. There is no base to tax. This is really a textbook case of trying to kick the can down the road only to find out that the road will come to an end.

If you read the article, you'll see something about cutting off workers' comp and disability payments. That whole system is replete with corruption and there have been attempts for years to get those who are "disabled" off disability, in no small part because the disability fund was going bankrupt very quickly and those who were actually disabled were going to get screwed.

And fucking hell. Now I really really really want a Pappas original chicken grinder with mayo no tomatoes and cheese fries. Fuck.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 10:17 AM (VtjlW)

47 They're not really wasting money just being there.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 10:09 AM (864A5)

Yeah, but they wasted money getting there. It costs money to fire up the equipment and then to take care of all the paperwork associated. If they're needlessly using their manpower and equipment resources when something else goes wrong, it costs even more money.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:17 AM (rX1N2)

48 Public workers, including first responders, really need to understand something....no one is irreplaceable.

Says you!

Now watch this drive.

Posted by: King Barack I - Keeper of the Greens at July 10, 2012 10:18 AM (sbV1u)

49 It's a bullshit move of a pouting 12 year old besides being illegal( contracts). I would expect nothing less from a dem politician. Present a reasonable budget with cuts, fee hikes and reasonable and appropriate tax increase if necessary. You can't simply tax your way out of financial problems. 29% increase is a non starter.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 10:18 AM (0MVzQ)

50 This kind of story needs to be tied to the recent results of GOP elected officials with deficit reductions and unemployment improvement, with emphasis on, and dots connected to longtime Dem strongholds like Detroit being hardest hit and most hopeless.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 10, 2012 10:19 AM (aZ6ew)

51 Some weeks my county twice-weekly paper has more Public Notices than non-HS-sports news.
Posted by: SpinsterRadish at July 10, 2012 10:03 AM (ZKzrr)


By publish I mean put it on twitter or something like that.

I want people to shit their pants.

Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 10:19 AM (ejmiE)

52

Say it with me now:

Public employee pension costs are forcing service cuts.

That's it, that's all.

Repeat to everyone.

We do not have a "funding" or even a "spending" problem (in teh traditional sense of trying to DO too much). We have a pension obligation problem.

Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 10:21 AM (xTsb0)

53 Scranton used to be my old stomping grounds and I
had the complete and utter misfortune to deal with Doherty on a fairly
routine basis.....And fucking hell. Now I really really really want a Pappas original
chicken grinder with mayo no tomatoes and cheese fries. Fuck. Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 10:17 AM (VtjlW)


And here I thought you were in Arizona.

Yes, they are quite good aren't they. I miss Cooper's too. It's a dump, but it was my dump.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 10, 2012 10:21 AM (sbV1u)

54 Let Dwight Schrute be mayor! He'll fix it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 10:21 AM (0MVzQ)

55
Let Dwight Schrute be mayor! He'll fix it.Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 10:21 AM (0MVzQ)


With Schrute Bucks!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 10, 2012 10:22 AM (sbV1u)

56 Honey Badger for Mayor! He won't give a shit.

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:22 AM (evdj2)

57 And we can pay him in mead.

Posted by: A Monkey On Crack at July 10, 2012 10:23 AM (O7Q1u)

58 Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 10:19 AM (ejmiE)

Amen.

Business owners like me are tired of paying for shit sandwiches while we take home nothing, but these assholes are living high on my money. And then they refuse to lower the tax appraisal of homes, so they get the rest of the money that was supposed to go to my family.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 10, 2012 10:25 AM (rX1N2)

59 The left's policies never ever work. So why do so many want to go that route even as they sit on a sinking ship?

Posted by: Mekan at July 10, 2012 10:25 AM (hm8tW)

60
As of Monday, the city had $133,000 in cash, but owed $3.4 million in various vendor bills, one of which was health insurance, said city Business Administrator Ryan McGowan.

That was more than either Thursday and Friday, when the city's bottom lines were $5,000 and $83,000, respectively, he said. The daily amount fluctuates depending on how various tax revenues come in and bills are paid, he said.




The solution? Buy lottery tickets.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 10:25 AM (kdS6q)

61 PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, if you look at what’s happened, not just in Louisiana, but across the country, most of those job losses initially came in the first six months of me being in office, right as we were hitting the worst part of the crisis. And we’ve been doing clean-up ever sense. I mean, this is essentially like–it was a financial hurricane that hit, and we’ve been cleaning up ever since.

So Pres**ent Obama says that the financial crisis is his Katrina .. Hmm

Posted by: The Royal Tart Toter at July 10, 2012 10:26 AM (e8kgV)

62 So is the army of lawyers involved with these suits getting paid minimum wage?

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 10:26 AM (J5tI6)

63 >>By publish I mean put it on twitter or something like that.

Would be a good project for citizen journalists. Get the list from the city hall (or hit the library for the archive of the paper where it's published if you wish to remain stealth) and put it out on the web.

Posted by: SpinsterRadish at July 10, 2012 10:26 AM (ZKzrr)

64 56/57 I'm down ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:27 AM (GvYeG)

65
Hold it! Next man makes a move, and theMayor gets it!

Hold it, men. He's not bluffing.

Posted by: The Black Bart Solution To The Problem at July 10, 2012 10:27 AM (XbKdv)

66 My town is way nicer than Scranton, but if my taxes went up almost 30%, I'd be gone in a nanosecond.

Are there any Bidens/idiots left who would stick around Scranton to pay that bill?

Posted by: LASue at July 10, 2012 10:27 AM (wAhNv)

67 Aahhh, money, the Great Equalizer, at least for those of us who can count.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 10:28 AM (d0Tfm)

68 and we’ve been cleaning up ever since.

CHART OF THE DAY: THE SCARIEST JOBS CHART EVER

http://is.gd/HLCiZV


UR DOING IT RONG.

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:28 AM (evdj2)

69 We do not have a "funding" or even a "spending" problem (in teh traditional sense of trying to DO too much). We have a pension obligation problem.

Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 10:21 AM (xTsb0)

And accumulated vacation. In NJ, if you do one thing on a work day, it's considered a full day's work. One employee was on a gurney being wheeled into surgery and made a phone call to his office. It counted as a full day's work.

Retiring employees can work away with checks for in the $200K range, never having taken a vacation day during their entire work career.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 10:28 AM (136wp)

70

The solution? Buy lottery tickets.



The solution is Chapter 9.

Watch that pension debt "disappear"

Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 10:29 AM (xTsb0)

71 Mayor Cuts Everyone's Pay To Minimum Wage

Taxpayers could take a liking to that. Jus' sayin', Mayor!

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2012 10:29 AM (FcR7P)

72 Hey! If minimum wage is defined by liberals as "a living wage," then, yes. Pay all public employees minimum wage. All we should pay them is a living wage. Everything above that is greed.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 10, 2012 10:29 AM (iAUf+)

73 Dear Stockton and Scranton, go through every department, save police and fire, and decimate. Budget issues solved and just scared the daylights out of the slugs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2012 10:29 AM (1ivHb)

74 But Obama tried real hard!

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:29 AM (GvYeG)

75 Frak them. Most of the voters there will vote for Obama again in November.

Doherty should do what Nutter did in Philly. Close fire stations and brown out others. Sure, fire deaths are way up, and two firemen were killed in April in part to the browned out stations, but hey, if he still gets the votes - and he will - why not go whole-hog?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:30 AM (kFnmp)

76 "most of those job losses initially came in the first six months of me being in office, right as we were hitting the worst part of the crisis. And we’ve been doing clean-up playing golfever sense. I mean, this is essentially like–it was a financial hurricane that hit, and we’ve been cleaning up[\s] the real crisis is that I still haven't been able to break 60 on the front nine.

Posted by: Barack "Longshanks" Obama I at July 10, 2012 10:30 AM (rX1N2)

77 So is the army of lawyers involved with these suits getting paid minimum wage?

And how many of them are related to the city poobahs? Or boyfriends/girlfriends/neighbors/goombahs? I'm willing to bet you could stir the corruption and cronyism with a stick there.

It is, after all, what they do. Corruptocrats, that is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 10:31 AM (d0Tfm)

78 The new republican governors in states such as Wisconsin and Michigan have shown that with concessions from public sector unions, budgets can be balanced without major lay-offs.

In Michigan the unions tried to get signatures for a recall of the new republican governor and gave up because they could only get a fraction of the signatures they needed. Walker survived his recall because what he did worked.

Democrats and unions types have the emotional development of 5 year olds in a toy store.

It's the democrats and their unions who don't want to compromise.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2012 10:31 AM (b/+PA)

79 but it’s the city’s employees that are paying the price,

You promised you would steal their money for us!!

Posted by: Public Sector Unions at July 10, 2012 10:31 AM (FcR7P)

80 alexthechick:

I knew you'd weigh in on this, but why hold back? Tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 10, 2012 10:32 AM (7+pP9)

81 What was the dollar figure every tax payer could receive if the stimulus money had just been sent to each one?

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:32 AM (GvYeG)

82

Doherty should do what Nutter did in Philly. Close fire stations and
brown out others. Sure, fire deaths are way up, and two firemen were
killed in April



This of it as "Extreme Urban Renewal"

Worked for Detroit.

Vast areas of wilderness now exist after the fires, allowing for grasslands to replace crackhouses. It's the new Green initiative.


Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 10:32 AM (xTsb0)

83 By publish I mean put it on twitter or something like that. I want people to shit their pants.
Posted by: eman at July 10, 2012 10:19 AM (ejmiE)


I like the cut of your jib!

Posted by: CEO of Depends Corp at July 10, 2012 10:32 AM (mV8sg)

84 From here on out, our employees will be paid in Schrute Bucks.

Posted by: Mayor Doherty at July 10, 2012 10:32 AM (kFnmp)

85

Damn, format fail

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 10:33 AM (rX1N2)

86 In California, the state services have "furlough days" wherepublic offices (like the courts and the DMV) close completely. Because it is more important to shut down the service you are supposed to be offering to the public than fire any union employees.

Posted by: artemis at July 10, 2012 10:33 AM (2XMD1)

87 There will be blood.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 10, 2012 10:33 AM (71LDo)

88 "My members are getting a check for $7.25 an hour. These are people that
are the head of their households. They have mortgages. They have other
living costs. They are now going to have to throw their bills in a hat
and randomly pick what gets paid on time.”

========================

Uh, welcome to Obama's America, you idiot.

Posted by: Jay at July 10, 2012 10:34 AM (3LaGb)

89 Yes, they are quite good aren't they. I miss Cooper's too. It's a dump, but it was my dump.

Om nom nom lobster bisque. Were you there after they opened up the lighthouse part? I very nearly fell off while trying to keep a co-worker from getting into a fist fight with her ex-boyfriend. Good times. Good times.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 10:34 AM (VtjlW)

90 Are there any Bidens/idiots left who would stick around Scranton to pay that bill?
The University would get stuck with most of it, as they and all the Doctors and hospitals for all the old residents are the only 2 things which make any money. There is no other tax base really and I'd bet that most of the locals are on more than 1 handout program.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 10:34 AM (lOnIe)

91 Oh, no, it's the nuclear option! Living within your means. Heartless!

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2012 10:34 AM (FcR7P)

92 Since DrewM was in early, can we expect an early Hump Post?

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:34 AM (evdj2)

93 Vast areas of wilderness now exist after the fires, allowing for
grasslands to replace crackhouses. It's the new Green initiative.



Philly deserves what it gets, too, and I live here. We (the Philly Police Department) are at our lowest manpower totals in decades, and our health plan - one of the only real benefits of the job - has been decimated. It's the result of 70+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule.

Posted by: Mayor Doherty at July 10, 2012 10:35 AM (kFnmp)

94
Remarks by the President on the American Jobs Act
November 30, 2011 Scranton High School

Now, I mention Joe, first of all, because he loves Scranton. (Applause.) He was born here in Scranton. He spent his early years here in Scranton. This town helped make him who he is....

I’m thinking about something that is probably Joe’s favorite expression. And some of you know Joe’s story. He went through some tough times when he was a kid. And his father used to tell him, Champ, when you get knocked down, you get up. You get up.

And Scranton, we’ve taken some punches these last few years. But there’s one thing I know about people here in Scranton, people in Pennsylvania, and people all across America: We are tougher than the times. We are America. We get back up. We fight back. We move forward. (Applause.) We don’t give up. We get back up. (Applause.)




*gets knocked down*
*stays down*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 10:35 AM (kdS6q)

95 Scranton is one of the ugliest towns you'll see, although the surrounding area is nice.

I would imagine that all that's left besides the giant burning slag pile off I-81 are public employees or welfare dependents

Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 10:36 AM (Y+DPZ)

96 Is Scranton's problems because of it's pension and disabilty obligations? If so, attack that problem not the taxpayers. They need a Mayor Walker.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 10:36 AM (waJ+2)

97 One question. So Scranton is going Bankrupt? How can you tell? I mean considering how Scranton always looks?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 10:36 AM (05RcU)

98 96
Is Scranton's problems because of it's pension and disability
obligations? If so, attack that problem not the taxpayers. They need a
Mayor Walker.



Probably that... and ridiculous spending.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:38 AM (kFnmp)

99 One question. So Scranton is going Bankrupt? How can you tell? I mean considering how Scranton always looks?

There is a big "Going out of business sale, all democrats 80% off" sign on 380 right at the 84 split. I just saw it last weekend.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 10:38 AM (lOnIe)

100
Fire all the employees that don't have to come in during the blizzard. They are non-essential personnel.

Posted by: Conservative Heartless Bastard at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (XbKdv)

101 I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone know where that part is?

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (evdj2)

102 I’m thinking about something that is probably Joe’s
favorite expression. And some of you know Joe’s story. He went through
some tough times when he was a kid. And his father used to tell him,
Champ, when you get knocked down, you get up. You get up.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 10:35 AM

Joe gets knocked down, and gets up again, and you're never going to keep him down.

Pissing the cash away, pissing the cash away

Posted by: Chumbawumba at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (Y+DPZ)

103 Joe is a Weeble.

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:40 AM (evdj2)

104 OT:

If you are going to be a workplace shi**er, and if someone comes in to take a p**s while you're in there shi**ing, at least have the decency to wait until the pi**er is done before you flush and exit the stall. No one wants to see your filthy workplace shi**ing face after you get done with your shi**ing. Why can you not let us pretend we don't know it's you in there, stinking up the place?

Ok, carry on...

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 10:40 AM (TOk1P)

105 Scranton is one of the ugliest towns you'll see, although the surrounding area is nice.

We sir, are far uglier and the surrounding areas also suck!

Posted by: The Citites of Detriot, Compton and East St. Louis at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM (OWjjx)

106 As long as the public sector unions keep putting firefighters and cops on the frontline for pension/benefit reform debates this will be a hard sell to the people.

Someone needs to make the clear distinction between emergency service employees and street cleaners making 80k a year.

Posted by: El Kabong at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM (+I3r2)

107
I would imagine that all that's left besides the giant burning slag pile off I-81...

It's not slag. It's called culm.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM (7+pP9)

108 Scrantonicity II needs to do a benefit concert. All proceeds go to theScranton River Restoration / Depoisoning Board.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM (Ec6wH)

109 If you are going to be a workplace shi**er, and if someone comes in to
take a p**s while you're in there shi**ing, at least have the decency to
wait until the pi**er is done before you flush and exit the stall. No
one wants to see your filthy workplace shi**ing face after you get done
with your shi**ing. Why can you not let us pretend we don't know it's
you in there, stinking up the place



The animals I work with have a problem flushing the urinal after they take a leak. Classay!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM (kFnmp)

110 We are in a depression people! If you don't reelect us (Barack & I) and excuse my language: we're screwed. He's so smart, clean, articulate, brave too, crazy brave, we're damn lucky to have him. Done his best, I'll swear to that. This isn't an American problem it's a Republican one.

I cried when I heard about this - the close to bankrupt thing. Crime going through the roof, especially rape (no $ for cops), starving people roaming the streets, dogs off leashes, cats taking over hard working neighborhoods and the Republicans don't give a damn!

Another 1 or 2 Trillion would solve this, but THEY JUST DON'T GET IT. Biden added

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 10:42 AM (4eNxd)

111 @104, as the resident HR expert, in my workplace, we have a 3-minute grace period for shi**ers. Failure to do so results in The Great Santini treatment.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 10, 2012 10:43 AM (Ec6wH)

112
101 I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone know where that part is?

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (evdj2)


It's just outside of Scranton. They've put up a fence so you can't see it from 81 anymore.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 10, 2012 10:44 AM (7+pP9)

113 Scranton? I laugh at their broke-ness.

Posted by: PFGBest, just Corzined $200 mil at July 10, 2012 10:44 AM (6LvlL)

114 @The Cities of Detroit
"We sir, are far uglier and the surrounding areas also suck!"

Hey- just one minute there, eh?

You don't know what yer tockin' aboot!

Or you're on the crack again, eh?

Posted by: City of Windsor at July 10, 2012 10:44 AM (ksERZ)

115 Just call Scranton the "Greece" of PA. It's interesting that the problem always boils down to same basic issue: excessive compensation and retirements for public "service" employees. What can't go on, won't.

Posted by: JimK at July 10, 2012 09:59 AM (ytgJH)

Nothing to add, it just bears repeating.

And being Scranton, home of DunderMifflin, brown bears are best and bears eat beets.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 10, 2012 10:44 AM (BAS5M)

116 All my friends say that this isn't Scranton's fault.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien at July 10, 2012 10:45 AM (OWjjx)

117 @96 Scranton's problem is that it has no reason to exist anymore and very little tax base. It was a coal town and the mines are played out and gone. It's 3 hours from Philly so it can't be marketed as a suburb. It's really close to a Wild West ghost town now. Only with lots of welfare recipients. There aren't any rich people left there to tax.

Last summer. our church youth group did a week long mission trip to Scranton. There is a gorgeous old Episcopal church there that was once the church of the mine owners and other wealthy people. It's down to about 20 families now and has sold everything that moves. We did some cleaning and painting there and worked in the Catholic soup kitchen which is huge. Over 300 people come there for lunch every day. Recently a priest from our neighboring parish took over as rector of the Episcopal church. He has his work cut out for him there.

Oh, and we did go to Cooper's. Still great, and my family has been back even though it is a 2 hour drive each way.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 10:46 AM (qE3AR)

118 Or you're on the crack again, eh?

Of course we are on crack......crack is our number 1 job creating economy.

Posted by: The Cities of Detriot, Compton and East St. Louis at July 10, 2012 10:46 AM (OWjjx)

119 Sranton's problems nothing that a new coal fired power plant couldn't fix. And a casino.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 10:47 AM (L2I78)

120 *gets knocked down*
*stays down*


♪♫Pissing the night away...♪♫

Posted by: Chumbawumba at July 10, 2012 10:47 AM (ZKzrr)

121 They need a mead outlet store.

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:48 AM (GvYeG)

122 The problem with Obama is that his irresponsibility is like a license for these lower level democrats.

We are seeing class warfare here in Charlotte, where the Black elected and non elected officials simply believe they should take the "rich" companies and peoples money for their "plans".

In a recession they just approved a $400 million street car plan.

It goes less than 10 miles.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 10, 2012 10:48 AM (KZI7g)

123 I blame the police. Obviously, they're not giving out enuff tickets. But,now that I think about it, you can't swing a dead cat on I-80 without hitting a state trooper.

Posted by: Vegan Meatball at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (yn6XZ)

124 Street car plan:


http://tinyurl.com/cwe28bz

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (KZI7g)

125 Posted by: J Biden VP very smart individual at July 10, 2012 10:42 AM (4eNxd)

Here is what is great about this place.......at times, I could not decide if this was snark or real.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (OWjjx)

126 And being Scranton, home of DunderMifflin, brown bears are best and bears eat beets.
Battlestar Galactica

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (lOnIe)

127 Rockmom, Scranton sounds like the UP of Michigan around Duluth...old abandoned iron mines with people who haven't worked for two generations.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (Ec6wH)

128 Well, some of you may be relieved to learn that once Firefighters retire they tend to die off right quicker than most non-responder types. It has to do with the fact that they are exposed to so many toxic situations. So, once dead - no more of those expensive retirement payments.

I personally knew three local FF who died within five years of retiring. In fact, one just passed away yesterday.

Posted by: G.Marie at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (i0yTO)

129 @119 They have a casino now in Bethlehem, on the grounds of the old steel works. It's doing OK but it hasn't generated any other economic development in the area.

You want to really get depressed, drive around Allentown and Bethlehem.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (NYnoe)

130 If baby food could have been the first choice to cut he would have gone after that. Its the same reason SCoaMF's first cut will be in writing social security checks instead of the EPA if there should be any interruption of his cash flow.

Posted by: Hal Burton at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (iYvMQ)

131 If we all could just sit down around some cups of mead ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM (GvYeG)

132 Almost O/T, since it's about economics, that beatdown of Krugman video linked in the sidebar is epic. Despite their bleatings to the contrary, Trickle-down economics works.

We're being held hostage by idiots in government who either can't or won't understand elementary capitalism and how it creates wealth. Economic growth would cure most of our ills right now, but the fools we have in power are doing their best to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. They can't understand where the money comes from to fund their big government, so they flail about, seeking power instead of solving the problem.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 10:50 AM (d0Tfm)

133
117 @96 Scranton's problem is that it has no reason to exist anymore and very little tax base. It was a coal town and the mines are played out and gone. It's 3 hours from Philly so it can't be marketed as a suburb. It's really close to a Wild West ghost town now. Only with lots of welfare recipients. There aren't any rich people left there to tax.

Not long after 9/11 they tried to sell a revitalization plan for Scranton that consisted of making it the equivalent of a back up drive for NYC. Flew like a rock.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 10, 2012 10:50 AM (7+pP9)

134 Ok, carry on...Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 10:40 AM (TOk1P)Not everyone in the stalls is taking a shit.

Posted by: Larry Craig at July 10, 2012 10:50 AM (I27d2)

135 The University would get stuck with most of it, as they and all the Doctors and hospitals for all the old residents are the only 2 things which make any money. There is no other tax base really and I'd bet that most of the locals are on more than 1 handout program.

I bet that whoever it was that bought the Mercy got some lovely little tax breaks. As far as the taxpayers liking this, well, a fairly large proportion of them either work for the city or have a family member who is.

This whole thing is an enormous pissing contest between Doherty and the council. It's pretty much an Iraq Iran war situation.


I will say I'm ecstatic to be out of there because there is a better than even chance that my old boss would have gotten dragged into this which means I would have been dragged into it and no. Just no.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 10:50 AM (VtjlW)

136 128
Well, some of you may be relieved to learn that once Firefighters retire
they tend to die off right quicker than most non-responder types. It
has to do with the fact that they are exposed to so many toxic
situations. So, once dead - no more of those expensive retirement
payments.



Cops are the same way. That's why I'm never retiring.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:51 AM (kFnmp)

137 If we all could just sit down around some cups of mead ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM


Send in $3. We'll put you in the drawing.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 10:51 AM (bAGA/)

138 "3 police cars, one fire SUV, one pumper and one traffic control officer responded, and stayed for almost two hours until the problem was fixed."

Um, ever have a road rebuilt in front of your house?
If it ever happens to you, make a point of not being around, because the institutionalized laziness will send you over the edge.

That old cliche of 3 standing around watching 1 work? Happens. And they will park their truck or put a pile of rubble right at the foot of your drive-way because they're too dumb to realize that it would be just as easy to put it in front of the lawn where you aren't inconvenienced.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2012 10:51 AM (b/+PA)

139 We think that President Obama will soon come to the aid of Scranton. He will simply direct that Mr. Messina designate Scranton as the official storage site for all the great Obama gear you can get by going to President Obama's website. Soon, Scranton will be filled with good paying union jobs that involve shipping all the Obama spatula's, t-shirts, baby bibs and Obama Pooper Scoopers that all of us in the city of Bartlesboro have/ The people of Bartlesboro support President Obama in his attempt to fix all the problems that Bush/Cheney/Haliburton left him. We love you President Obama.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Bartlesboro, Vermont at July 10, 2012 10:53 AM (OWjjx)

140

Being the mayor of a town and cutting out the deadwood is a
tough job. It takes guts to shake up the
system, keep the essential people and trim the paper pushers. If you ever found someone like this, you
would want to make them a Governor, so that they could apply the same reasoning
to the whole state.



Then, if they did a good job and made the same hard choices
as Governor, you would want them to be President. At least sane people would.

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 10:53 AM (ZDsRL)

141 Saw in the headlines this morning that "unions" are going to hold their own political convention this summer in Philadelphia, because they think the democrats aren't listening to them.

Apparently 25% of democrats to the democrat convention are union members. They claim they will still attend the main convention tho.

Posted by: Boots at July 10, 2012 10:53 AM (neKzn)

142
You want to really get depressed, drive around Allentown and Bethlehem

Dorney Park!

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 10:54 AM (I27d2)

143 141
Saw in the headlines this morning that "unions" are going to hold their
own political convention this summer in Philadelphia, because they think
the democrats aren't listening to them.



Frak that, we don't want them here. Send them to Scranton.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:54 AM (kFnmp)

144 Public workers, including first responders, really need to understand something....no one is irreplaceable.
**
***
Products and labor are subject to the very basics priciple of supply and demand. This is something the majoritypublic employees and ALLLeftardswill never understand.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 10, 2012 10:55 AM (eavT+)

145 125 Posted by: J Biden VP very smart individual at July 10, 2012 10:42 AM (4eNxd)


God love ya! Just yesterday, I said something like that to Barack - we are so close you know. He had no time to talk though, lot's of Presidentin' to do.

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 10:55 AM (4eNxd)

146 138
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Jeez. Just drive through your lawn around the pile/truck. Or do you have embankments? If so your poor drive design should not affect their program efficiency.

Posted by: StreetContractor at July 10, 2012 10:55 AM (eEfYn)

147 Also, about 30% of the properties in Scranton are tax exempt. And the mayor hasn't done squat trying to get their owners to make any kind of payments in lieu of taxes.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 10, 2012 10:56 AM (7+pP9)

148 still overpaid

Posted by: Ron Swanson at July 10, 2012 10:56 AM (KHo8t)

149 The 10% Solution:

10% cut in all taxes
10% cut in all spending
10% reduction of all public employees.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2012 10:57 AM (kSaUf)

150 147
Also, about 30% of the properties in Scranton are tax exempt. And the
mayor hasn't done squat trying to get their owners to make any kind of
payments in lieu of taxes.



Like Philly. A-hole Mayor Nutter raised property taxes... again, while the city is owed thousands and thousands in unpaid back taxes from the detritus.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 10:58 AM (kFnmp)

151 10% reduction of all public employees.
---
Diets don't work!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 10:58 AM (eEfYn)

152 My sister is counting the days until she can get the hell out of PA and never look back. It's like a bigger, more aggravating Connecticut, and that's saying something. At least Connecticut is relatively small, so you can drive through it (so long as you avoid the nightmare tangle that is Hartford at rush hour) fairly quickly. But PA just goes on and on and on and on...

To all PA Morons, you have my sympathies.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 10:59 AM (4df7R)

153 I'm shocked, just shocked that the millions poured into the Steamtown Historical site and it's shopping mall didn't do the trick and turn Scranton into NYC west...what problem is NOT solved by throwing tons of money at it ?

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 10:59 AM (lOnIe)

154 WU: Are you the best attack dog on this particular issue considering you have never released your tax.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Absolutely, I’m not running for president.

WU: You are a public official.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I file full financial disclosure required under the law.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:00 AM (e8kgV)

155 Saw some of the jackass liberals on the FB laughing at the express lane limits at Walmart denoted by fingers.

Resisted the urge to tell them they're really laughing at either our public schools system or our lack of immigration enforcement.

But, they're liberals and too fucking stupid for reasoning, so I let it go as filed under: "More liberal tolerance."

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2012 11:00 AM (kSaUf)

156 Pull my finger.

Posted by: the invisible hand at July 10, 2012 11:00 AM (evdj2)

157 Oh and speaking of biz as usual, here in the kleptocracy that is Illinois, Gov Quinn just signed into law a new law that reverses the reforms that were instituted after Gov Blago was ousted.

This entire state is run by the democrats, they control both houses of the legislature and the governor. In the middle of the night they passed a bill that undoes all the reforms they instituted with great fanfare after they kicked the evil Gov Blago to the curb.

Even the libs in the state are astonished.

Posted by: Boots at July 10, 2012 11:00 AM (neKzn)

158 Don't knock a mead putlet mall until youve tried one ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:01 AM (GvYeG)

159 they think the democrats aren't listening to them

They won't be satisfied until Zombie Karl Marx is in charge.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at July 10, 2012 11:01 AM (vbh31)

160 bhahahahahaha or a meadoutlet mall ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:01 AM (GvYeG)

161
Hmmm.... and the Mayor is NOT in Jail for contempt of Court? After being ordered not to do this?

Rules and Laws and the Constitution? Well, they're really just guidelines.....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 10, 2012 11:01 AM (lZBBB)

162 Diets don't work!

I have a glandular problem!

Posted by: Scranton at July 10, 2012 11:01 AM (evdj2)

163 OT: I see that the UN (bless their hearts) has elected Iran to the Arms Control Conference.

The UN is the Tower of Blabel, trying to build a stairway to Heaven one brick of bullshit at a time.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 10, 2012 11:02 AM (Hx5uv)

164 140 -

Oh sure, that would work in theory, but for the life of me I can't think of any real world examples of ex-Mayor/ex-Governors to whom it would apply.

Can you?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 11:02 AM (TOk1P)

165 101
I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a
part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone
know where that part is?

Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (evdj2)

That's I-76 from Pittsburgh to Philly.

Posted by: TexBob at July 10, 2012 11:02 AM (pUOpM)

166 and went through a part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone know where that part is?

Ahhhh yes, DeNaples Auto Parts or whatever they are calling it now. Owned by Louie "Mob, what mob, I just know lots of people" DeNaples. We lived just outside of Scranton and DeNaples provided garbage removal services. We'd been there for a few years and my dad finally asked someone when we'd get a bill for that. The guy started laughing.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (VtjlW)

167 161 Guidelines ... if I gave a shit, that would be really funny ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (GvYeG)

168 I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone know where that part is?

Yes. It's called "Pennsylvania."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (4df7R)

169 I'm from Scranton?

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (vbh31)

170 Saw in the headlines this morning that "unions" are
going to hold their own political convention this summer in
Philadelphia, because they think the democrats aren't listening to them. Posted by: Boots


I'm sure they'll hire a union convention center but it would be funny as hell if they got the one non-union venue in town and a PO'd venue owner.

"You hanging that sign, you can't fuk'in do that. Get down here. My guy has to hang that sign. And it'll cost you $500."

"You standing around with the clipboard, sorry asshole. In-house clipboard holders only!!!"

"Do you think you're going to take a picture of the dais? WRONG!! You have to hire our photogs and buy the rights to the whole stage!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (sClIO)

171 But PA just goes on and on and on and on...
-
?

Posted by: Texas at July 10, 2012 11:04 AM (eEfYn)

172 We lived just outside of Scranton and DeNaples provided garbage removal services. We'd been there for a few years and my dad finally asked someone when we'd get a bill for that. The guy started laughing.
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:03 AM (VtjlW)

You know, you TRY not to subscribe to stereotypes such as, "All waste disposal guys with Italian names are in the Mob," but it's just so damn hard when most of them are.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:05 AM (4df7R)

173 That's why citizens have to start speaking up at public meetings and writing to their state legislators to say, "Hey, why are you threatening to cut fire and police jobs? How many penny ante bureaucrats have you got in XYZ Commission? Get rid of some of them first."
MWR, those jobs are absolutely necessary as they are usually filled with politicians family and friends. They must not suffer . ever.

hands alex her tea.

Posted by: willow at July 10, 2012 11:05 AM (TomZ9)

174 Ronald Reagan created jobs. Barack Obama is the worst jobs president since the Great Depression.

Ronald Reagan cut taxes. Barack Obama punished Americans making less than $120,000 a year with the ObamaTax. Barack Obama is raising taxes on 940,000 households by ending Bush tax cuts on “wealthy.”

Ronald Reagan was a success. Barack Obama is a disappointing failure.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:05 AM (e8kgV)

175
164 -
You're right. Finding someone like that might be hard to do. I'll start looking through the records and see if anyone pops up.

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 11:06 AM (ZDsRL)

176
oh, andFuck Unions.
all of them.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 11:06 AM (I27d2)

177 R u talkin' to me?

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:06 AM (GvYeG)

178 I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a

part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone

know where that part is?



Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (evdj2)

That's I-76 from Pittsburgh to Philly.


Posted by: TexBob at July 10, 2012 11:02 AM (pUOpM)

When I drove around Houston it seemed to be new cars dealers every where I looked, so apparently they sell 'em in Texas and bury 'em in Pennsylvania.
All things considered, I'd rather be in Houston.

Posted by: Retread at July 10, 2012 11:07 AM (I2fq9)

179 171 But PA just goes on and on and on and on...-?
Posted by: Texas at July 10, 2012 11:04 AM (eEfYn)


Yes, but Texas is not the armpit of NY. And NY is a smelly, rotting place in and of itself.

Sorry, PA.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:07 AM (4df7R)

180 http://tinyurl.com/7tfyx85

OT, but we are over 100 comments, Men's Fashion Week in Paris. Coming to Obama's closet soon.

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 11:08 AM (136wp)

181 I wonder if that guy down in Texas was ever a Mayor.....

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 11:08 AM (TOk1P)

182 So when they do this, is it just a deferred-payment plan or are their contracts re-written to this new salary?

OTOH it is good to see expenses reduced, but seems to me this must be a violation of labor laws.

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2012 11:08 AM (5H6zj)

183 the most necessay and needed as public servants are the police , fire and garbage.
those are always the first threatened.

although that whole wisconisn solidarity piss'd me off. they work for the Public not the unions.

Posted by: willow at July 10, 2012 11:08 AM (TomZ9)

184 88 "My members are getting a check for $7.25 an hour. These are people that
are the head of their households. They have mortgages. They have other
living costs. "

Should have made reasonable concessions.

Oh, and you are supposed to have enough savings to get you through 6 months of unemployment. I managed to do it and believe me, my pay wasn't high.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2012 11:09 AM (b/+PA)

185 They have a casino now in Bethlehem, on the grounds of the old steel works. It's doing OK but it hasn't generated any other economic development in the area. **
****
Ah yes...the Sands. wonderful Casino, great restaraunts. Twice a year we drop the wives off there while we golf at Center Valley GC, which ironically closed up this past March.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 10, 2012 11:09 AM (eavT+)

186 When I started to see cops making close to, and some above, the six figure threshold, they lost me.

Forever.

When they stop being gun-toting adolescents with small persons' disease, I may like them a little, but I doubt it.

I have no need or use for law enforcement, whatsoever.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at July 10, 2012 11:09 AM (nQCPF)

187 181I wonder if that guy down in Texas was ever a Mayor.....Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 11:08 AM (TOk1P) You mean the guy with the speach impediment?

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 11:10 AM (ZDsRL)

188 How do you tell a Romney supporter from an Obama supporter? Romney supporters sign their checks on the front; Obama supporters sign theirs on the back.

Posted by: Vegan Meatball at July 10, 2012 11:10 AM (yn6XZ)

189 >>>“The mayor is trying to strong-arm the council into doing what he wants, but it’s the city’s employees that are paying the price,” [president of the local firefighters union John] Judge said,

Im confused...they need a tax increase to pay the public service employees, the mayor is trying to get a tax increase, and the unions are still bitching and moaning.

Posted by: Redd at July 10, 2012 11:10 AM (suLy7)

190 Loved the Krugman beat-down in the sidebar. Professor Schwartz starts with "An honor to be with such a very distinguished, uh, columnist..."

Krugman was not at all happy with his Keynesianism being challenged.

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2012 11:11 AM (FcR7P)

191
@182

Deferred. Mayor says any wages not paid will still accrue.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 11:11 AM (kdS6q)

192 You know what Scranton needs -- fracking, but they should start at the surface.

Posted by: Jean at July 10, 2012 11:12 AM (WkuV6)

193 Thank you, willow.

But PA just goes on and on and on and on...
God, yes, driving across PA on I-80 is so very very exciting. Look! A forest! And a bear! And look! A deer hurling itself through my windshield!

Car update: heard from the dealership and of course, of course the part that needs to be replaced isn't covered under the warranty. However, it's just under $500 and they have it in stock. I'm considering that a win.


Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (VtjlW)

194 We sir, are far uglier and the surrounding areas also suck!

Posted by: The Citites of Detriot, Compton and East St. Louis at July 10, 2012 10:41 AM

Are you an ugly city surrounded by East Orange, Harrison, Elizabeth, and Nutley?


Posted by: Newark NJ at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

195 >>Mayor says any wages not paid will still accrue.

How does that save money?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (ZKzrr)

196 @186 officer friendly retired from the local PD when Andy left Mayberry

Posted by: Clemenza at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (fCSfn)

197 Im confused...they need a tax increase to pay the public service employees, the mayor is trying to get a tax increase, and the unions are still bitching and moaning.
Posted by: Redd at July 10, 2012 11:10 AM (suLy7)


Back when I worked in a union shop, I used to say "A bitching Union Employee is a happy Union Employee. We have the happiest Employees on earth."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (9TTOe)

198 Scranton only had $5k in cash after they met the payroll last Friday.

It wouldn't surprise me if Wilkes-Barre is the next to go.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:14 AM (iYbLN)

199 You want to really get depressed, drive around Allentown and Bethlehem.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM

I did my best to bum you out

Posted by: Billy Joel at July 10, 2012 11:14 AM (Y+DPZ)

200 "It's the result of 70+ years of uninterrupted Democrat rule. (in Philly)
Posted by: Mayor Doherty"

Governor Walker was on one of the talk radio shows last week. From what he said, changes in Wisconsin's collective bargaining weren't so much about pay and benefits, but changing work rules, so that they could save money without making drastic cuts in pay and benefits.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2012 11:14 AM (b/+PA)

201 196 @186 officer friendly retired from the local PD when Andy left Mayberry
Posted by: Clemenza at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (fCSfn)

Oh come on now, that TJ Hooker was a pretty good guy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 11:14 AM (9TTOe)

202 Lackawanna deal with budget constraints, mirite?

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 11:14 AM (sPO/s)

203
Posted by: Newark NJ at July 10, 2012 11:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

Until 'Amelia's' closes, I won't give up on you.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 11:15 AM (I27d2)

204 Bizaro 5 President thinks Scranton Mayor doing it wrong. Scranton should raise taxes 290%. Then, with extra money, Scranton can hire more people to check on dog licenses and trash can regulation compliance would would have good jobs and then support Scranton's booming industries of pawn shops, second hand thrift store and cheap, affordable hookers. This, in turn, increase amount of money available for Scranton to tax. Repeat cycle. This is plan for country if Bizaro 5 President gets elected.

Posted by: Bizaro 5 President at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (OWjjx)

205 "95 Scranton is one of the ugliest towns you'll see, although the surrounding area is nice."

You ain't seen nuthin'

Posted by: Gary, Indiana-Go Hoosiers! at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (b/+PA)

206 195 -

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the answer is, by the time those deferred payments need to be made, somebody else will be in office.

The future... is there nothing it can't do?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (TOk1P)

207 We can fix Scranton!

First, we drop a couple billion dollars on the local school system.

Then, we raise taxes on all Scrantonites making over $45,000 a year. These people need to pay their fair share!

Finally- and this is the cool part- a LIGHT RAIL PROJECT that links Scranton and Johnstown!

Ah, when it's working, it's working.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (8sCoq)

208 You want to really get depressed, drive around Allentown and Bethlehem.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 10:49 AM

Actually there are some nice parts around those towns. Mostly people who work in NJ and found they can get a nicer house at a lower price, lower taxes, and less Big Brother

Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (Y+DPZ)

209 @101 Norwalk relocated to Pennsylvania?!

Posted by: Gerry at July 10, 2012 11:16 AM (tLadi)

210 affordable hookers

Please, tell us more about this.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 11:17 AM (9TTOe)

211 @ 201 Most are just rookie HOOKERS with guns and testosterone left over from the sand box, IYKWIM

Posted by: Clemenza at July 10, 2012 11:17 AM (fCSfn)

212 Scranton? I thought Biden was from Wales.

Posted by: Cicero at July 10, 2012 11:17 AM (zMouK)

213 HAVANA (AP) - Authorities in eastern Cuba are in full prevention mode to contain a rare cholera outbreak amid fears that it may have spread to the capital, distributing chlorine and water purification drops and quarantining hospital patients with diarrhea until they are checked for the disease.

Posted by: Fidel Castro at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (e8kgV)

214
My lib, gay, FB friend was on a posting binge yesterday, and one of the images he posted was a pie graph of the us budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%. I asked him where in the constitution it says the feds are to provide for "everything else".
No response from him yet.

Posted by: Hal Burton at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (iYvMQ)

215 You knew this was coming.

Unions in Scranton will sue in Federal court. It's amazing the union has the money to sue the city but not enough money to supplement the union member's paychecks.

Hmmmm.

Linky on my name

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (iYbLN)

216 Scranton could turn all this around with a bullet train, dude.

Posted by: California Voters at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (zMouK)

217
"Finally- and this is the cool part- a LIGHT RAIL PROJECT that links Scranton and Johnstown!"

It needs to be High Speed Light Rail. For only a few hundred billion more, you get there faster and it helps create green jobs.

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (ZDsRL)

218 In a recession they just approved a $400 million street car plan.

It goes less than 10 miles.


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 10, 2012 10:48 AM

That's about how long ours will be after all the environmental suits and funding diversion. But everyone will want to go from Fresno to Selma on a high speed train!

Posted by: Gov Brown's Poo-Choo Train at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (Y+DPZ)

219 There's really only one answer for Scranton: Monorail!

Posted by: toby928 stealing other's memes and beating them until they give up the location of their secret lair at July 10, 2012 11:19 AM (evdj2)

220 But Bubonic plague will not gain a foothold in the Socialist Paradise!

Posted by: Fidel Castro at July 10, 2012 11:19 AM (zMouK)

221 a really good segment on Glenn Beck just now

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (EZf+u)

222
My lib, gay, FB friend was on a posting binge yesterday, and one of the images he posted was a pie graph of the us budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%.


Since Obama repealed DADT, 20% of the DOD budget is now spent on tighter fitting uniforms and 'accessorizing'.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (I27d2)

223 a pie graph of the us budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%.

Did you tell him he's not entitled to his own facts?

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (evdj2)

224 So when they do this, is it just a deferred-payment plan

Yup. Kind of like how the state employees didn't get paid when the state couldn't pass a budget. Oh would that they did that on the federal level instead of all of this continuing resolution bullshit.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (VtjlW)

225 >>I asked him where in the constitution it says the feds are to provide for "everything else".

The Good and Welfare Clause. Stupid wingnuts.

Posted by: John Conyers at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (ZKzrr)

226 Here's a thought. We would beg for rail service for years to Philadelphia and New York so we would be spared the drive on the dreaded turnpike. The track is there but nothing. Typical.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:21 AM (iYbLN)

227
@189

The mayor says the city simply does not have the cash to make full payrolls and the onus is on council to fund its budget by crafting a realistic recovery plan that will convince wary banks to again provide financing to the city.

The council has refused to consider the mayor's recovery proposal, and instead wants alternative sources of revenue, such as increased contributions from nonprofits and commuter, sales and payroll taxes.




If I've got this right, the Mayor wants a plan, so he can borrow right now. While the council wants to tax right now, then I guess borrow against anticipated revenues.

Also, sucking eggs. Big end or little end?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 10, 2012 11:22 AM (kdS6q)

228 My lib, gay, FB friend was on a posting binge yesterday, and one of the images he posted was a pie graph of the us budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%. I asked him where in the constitution it says the feds are to provide for "everything else".
No response from him yet.
Posted by: Hal Burton at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM (iYvMQ)

Well first of all that is bullshit and not even good bullshit. Defense spending is nowhere near 52%. But nice try

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 11:22 AM (05RcU)

229 My lib, gay, FB friend was on a posting binge
yesterday, and one of the images he posted was a pie graph of the us
budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%.
I asked him where in the constitution it says the feds are to provide
for "everything else".
No response from him yet.

Posted by: Hal Burton at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM

You might want to ask him also what constitutes defense spending. Libs pull stats out of their asses, and eventually those figures end up in an Aaron Sorkin or David E Kelley script

Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:22 AM (Y+DPZ)

230
Sounds like old home day here Didn't realize there are so many Pa refugees present. I spent most of my school life at Abington Heights, in Clark's Summit, so all this is familiar.

What y'all are describing has been going on for decades, with no changes.

And DeNaples is still around, they've been a source of parts for restorations for many years, so there's that.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (SAMxH)

231 A Solar Powered High Speed Light Monorail might just be the cure for cancer too.

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (ZDsRL)

232 The turnpike, 40 years ago, in sleet, that's an interesting drive across PA.

Now I want some "local flavor" food for lunch and there's nothing but franchises here.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (864A5)

233 Two Words: Bacon Convention.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (kFnmp)

234 Scranton: Pennsylvania's Progressive City

The motto says it all.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (iYbLN)

235 Defense spending is about 20% of the budget

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (05RcU)

236 Scranton could turn all this around with a bullet train, dude.

Yeah, that's actually a thing. Hey! High speed rail into The City! We'll all be rich!

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:24 AM (VtjlW)

237
@24 - thats the long term premise of high speed rail
in CA too. Get the central valley urbanized and hooked on all that
state money...

Posted by: JEM at July 10, 2012 10:07 AM (o+SC1)







Actually, the CA HSR project is just a travel subsidy for leftists who work in Frisco, but own houses in the Central Valley because they can buy two McMansions in Fresno for the cost of a studio-sized condo in the Bay Area.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2012 11:24 AM (TIIx5)

238 And DeNaples is still around, they've been a source of parts for restorations for many years, so there's that.
and a sweet new library at Da U

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 11:25 AM (lOnIe)

239 Drug test the municipal union members.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 10, 2012 11:25 AM (fCSfn)

240 irongrampa,

Clark's Summit? I grew up in Wilkes-Barre.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:25 AM (iYbLN)

241 God, yes, driving across PA on I-80 is so very very exciting. Look! A forest! And a bear! And look! A deer hurling itself through my windshield!

Yes, WTH is the deal with the deer in PA? I have never seen so many dead deer on the side of the road or (equally likely) embedded in windshields in cars on the side of the road. Just... WTH? Are the deer so desperate to get out of PA they commit suicide?

I'm sorry to hear your car part isn't covered under warranty, AtC. Seriously, is anything ever? Is there any chance you could shop around to see if the part is available elsewhere for less cost? And is labor included in that $500 price?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:25 AM (4df7R)

242 >>You might want to ask him also what constitutes defense spending.

All the funds for Mooch's bullying of schoolchildren and their parents, and subsidies for inner city supermarkets, since fatties are a threat to national security.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 11:25 AM (ZKzrr)

243 >>Deferred. Mayor says any wages not paid will still accrue.

OK, thx.

You'd like to see him say they're going to re-negotiate union contracts, but that'll never happen.

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2012 11:26 AM (5H6zj)

244 OT

Wayne Brady gets raw on Bill Maher! (NSFW and Huffpo)

http://tinyurl.com/7z9uhsk

Posted by: baldilocks at July 10, 2012 11:26 AM (6kWFm)

245 Im surprised no one has proposed a rail line between Scranton and Newark, its a marriage made in heaven.

Posted by: Jean at July 10, 2012 11:26 AM (WkuV6)

246 I spent most of my school life at Abington Heights, in Clark's Summit, so all this is familiar

So how many days of school did you actually attend, what with the teachers being on strike all the time?

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:26 AM (VtjlW)

247 Who is this Bill Maher guy???

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:27 AM (GvYeG)

248 showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%.

So the first scam here is that they don't include any entitlements. I'm not sure how else they manipulate the accounting, but even then you don't get to 52%, it's more like 1/3rd. It is true bullshit.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:27 AM (T0NGe)

249 214

Defense spending is currently below 25% of total Fed budget. Link is to a graph but since it's not a pie chart your friend might need it explained.

http://tinyurl.com/8353fcm

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 10, 2012 11:27 AM (tf9Ne)

250 236 Scranton could turn all this around with a bullet train, dude.

Yeah, that's actually a thing. Hey! High speed rail into The City! We'll all be rich!

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:24 AM (VtjlW)

and there's precedent for it as well

http://tinyurl.com/d7lr6up

Success

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 11:28 AM (4eNxd)

251 Scranton: Pennsylvania's Progressive City

The motto says it all.


With all of the predictable outcomes.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:28 AM (T0NGe)

252
229 My lib, gay, FB friend was on a posting binge yesterday, and one of the images he posted was a pie graph of the us budget which showed defense spending at52% and "Everything else" at 48%. I asked him where in the constitution it says the feds are to provide for "everything else". No response from him yet. Posted by: Hal Burton at July 10, 2012 11:18 AM



I've seen that graph. It's pure crap. Considering every graph of actual data has the majority of US spending going to entitlements like Medicare, SS, and Welfare, your lib, gay Facebook friend can keep snorting coke off that mirror of his and leave the business of running this country to the adults, because he's past hope of ever reaching maturity.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:29 AM (4df7R)

253 250 ... and a cotton candy stand on every street corner would help ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:29 AM (GvYeG)

254 I love a parade!

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:29 AM (vbh31)

255
Im surprised no one has proposed a rail line between Scranton and Newark, its a marriage made in heaven.

Because there's nothing to steal in Scranton.
For .50 cents, though, you can get a tram ride to the Long Term Parking facility at Newark International from anywhere in Downtown!.

Posted by: Corey Booker at July 10, 2012 11:29 AM (I27d2)

256 "Ben,

•Earth Still In The Midst of a Money Shot From The Sun

"Um, are you sure you wanna go with that?"

Posted by: the editorial mtg that never happened at July 10, 2012 11:30 AM (sClIO)

257 it's more like 1/3rd. It is true bullshit.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:27 AM (T0NGe)

Defense spending is about 20% of the Budget. I guess if you start calling all security related issues "Defense" you might get closer to 30% but I doubt it. Anyway it's nowhere near 52%. Although no doubt the 52% believe that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 11:30 AM (05RcU)

258
•Earth Still In The Midst of a Money Shot From The Sun

"Um, are you sure you wanna go with that?"


I approve. Keep your chin up, Gaia.

Posted by: Nina Hartley at July 10, 2012 11:31 AM (I27d2)

259 Is there any chance you could shop around to see if the part is available elsewhere for less cost? And is labor included in that $500 price?

I didn't ask if labor was included because I'm an idiot. I'm assuming no. As far as shopping around, it's a transmission issue and I'd rather have anything transmission related put in by the dealer so that I can sue the fuck out of them if it goes bad without any "oh well that's not really an authorized part since we didn't put it on here" bullshit. The placehas a really good rep for being fair on prices so there is that.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:31 AM (VtjlW)

260 The turnpike, 40 years ago, in sleet, that's an interesting drive across PA.

Now I want some "local flavor" food for lunch and there's nothing but franchises here.


Posted by: DaveA


And you never see a PennDot worker when you need one. When you don't there sitting in their trucks drinking coffee or beer and they are all about 100lbs overweight.


Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:31 AM (iYbLN)

261 Defense spending is about 20% of the budget

----

Let's leave that dollar amount where it is and then reduce everything else until everything else is 48% of that 52%. Then we would have an economy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 10, 2012 11:33 AM (Hx5uv)

262 Defense spending is about 20% of the Budget. I guess if you start
calling all security related issues "Defense" you might get closer to
30% but I doubt it.


The budget or "discretionary spending"? My guess is that they also include Homeland Security and certainly Veterans Affairs in "defense".

But, yes, this is definitely bullshit and it's not meant to be investigated.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:33 AM (T0NGe)

263 AtC: UGH, transmission issues. Yeah, I'd definitely stick with the dealer on that.

My favorite transmission memory (read that with heavy sarcasm, btw) was when I had to have my entire transmission replaced for approx. $2,000, then three months later promptly totaled my car.

I. Was not. Happy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:34 AM (4df7R)

264 Friend --

We're getting outraised -- a first for a sitting president, if this continues. Not just by the super PACs and outside groups that are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into misleading ads, but by our opponent and the Republican Party, which just outraised us for the second month in a row.

We can win a race in which the other side spends more than we do. But not this much more.

So I need your help. If you believe that regular people should decide elections, then please chip in $3 or more today.
This isn't about me or the outcome of one election.

This election will be a test of the model that got us here. We'll learn whether it's still true that a grassroots campaign can elect a president -- whether ordinary Americans are in control of our democracy in the face of massive spending.

I believe we can do this. When all of us chip in what we can, when we can, we are the most powerful force in politics.

But today is the day to prove it. Donate now:
https://donate.barackobama.com/Outraised

Thank you -- for everything you've done before and everything you're doing now. It matters.

Barack

Posted by: Barry O at July 10, 2012 11:35 AM (e8kgV)

265 I drove through Pennsylvania once to get to Maine and went through a part where it was auto salvage yards for literally miles. Does anyone know where that part is?
Posted by: toby928© at July 10, 2012 10:39 AM (evdj2)
That's owned by a local "legitimimate bizman". And Casino owner, and landfill owner, and well he owns everything, so never you mind!
Scrantons been fucked for years. Every decent biz is just barely over the boarder.
They have a "Mercantile Tax". Your a car dealer who pays 10k for a car from the factory. Nobody wants it, and you get it off the lot for $9500. You still pay tax on the 10k, forget the $500 you lost. Food spoiled, fuck you, pay me. Roses didn't sell on Valentines day, and ya threw them out, Fuck You, pay me!
And they will all "Pull the droogie Leever" and vote straight dem ticket "on accounts ah da Rebucans are fer dah rich". What FUCKING rich people? All three in Scranton don't even vote anymore. They're all gone, assholes. YOU ran them out to the burbs!

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 10, 2012 11:35 AM (Xx6Lw)

266 defense spending at 52%

But we've got NICE bean bags...

Posted by: Generalissimo O at July 10, 2012 11:35 AM (FcR7P)

267 And you never see a PennDot worker when you need one. When you don't there sitting in their trucks drinking coffee or beer and they are all about 100lbs overweight.


Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:31 AM (iYbLN)

Are they Amish?

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 11:36 AM (136wp)

268 I just sent the city of Scranton a prepaid Visa for $15. God love me.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:36 AM (vbh31)

269 This isn't about me or the outcome of one election.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:36 AM (e8kgV)

270
Posted by: Barry O at July 10, 2012 11:35 AM (e8kgV)


Gah, WARN us next time before you go posting the Preezy's desperate pleas for money! I was all sitting down to eat lunch and now I have to let my stomach settle!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:36 AM (4df7R)

271 267

The Amish actually work and produce something. The PennDot workers not so much.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:36 AM (iYbLN)

272 232
The turnpike, 40 years ago, in sleet, that's an interesting drive across PA.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM

About 30 years ago, you could drive over a slick of gypsy moth caterpillars on the roads in northeast PA . It was that bad


Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (Y+DPZ)

273

As long as we brought up light rail, how about someone
explaining bus service?



Maybe New York needs busses, but why in fuck would you have
full bus service in small towns, with busses running all day, every day, with
only one or two people riding? You could
buy these people limos for a fraction of what it costs to run the damn busses,
pay the union drivers and mechanics and advertise all over the place trying to
other people to ride.

Posted by: jwest at July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (ZDsRL)

274 @ 240

Was born at Mercy hospital, we moved to Waverly for a while, then Clark's Green. I have no real ties to the area, only my brother, who lives in the Summit.

Even as a teen, the wages were shit--$1.35 an hour to pump gas and do all the crap stuff no one else would do. That part I don't miss.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (SAMxH)

275 30,000 pounds of debt!

Posted by: Harry Chapin's Zombie at July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (Tlix5)

276 >>but why in fuck would you have
full bus service in small towns, with busses running all day, every day, with
only one or two people riding?

Because you lose federal transportation funds if you don't.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 11:38 AM (ZKzrr)

277 The turnpike, 40 years ago, in sleet, that's an interesting drive across PA.
Coming across the huge ass bridge over Clarks Summit, at 2:00 a.m., in an ice storm. Yeah. That's fun.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:38 AM (VtjlW)

278 Was born at Mercy hospital, we moved to Waverly for a while, then
Clark's Green. I have no real ties to the area, only my brother, who
lives in the Summit.


Mercy Hospital is on Hanover Street in WB. It's now owned by Geisinger. It's still the hospital you check in to but you don't check out. Sorta like Kaiser in California. We like to call it Kaiser Hospital and Mortuary. Why waste time?

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:40 AM (iYbLN)

279 The answer ... as always ... is tax -free mead.

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:40 AM (GvYeG)

280 About 30 years ago, you could drive over a slick of gypsy moth caterpillars on the roads in northeast PA . It was that bad
Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (Y+DPZ)


That was all over the northeast. My parents often tell stories about the yearof the gypsy moth caterpillars here in NH. Every time they'd drive somewhere they'd have a lovely symphony of "crunch crunch crunch" under the tires from driving over the damn things; and at night you could hear them munching on the trees.

Thankfully I was too little at the time to absorb what was going on around me and thus end up plagued with nightmares for the rest of my life.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:40 AM (4df7R)

281
Because you lose federal transportation funds if you don't.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 11:38 AM (ZKzrr)

I have never ridden in a Public Trans Bus. I wonder how many other people have never been in one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 11:40 AM (9TTOe)

282 Because you lose federal transportation funds if you don't.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™


Ding, ding, ding! And HeatherRadish is correct!

You get a lump of gen-u-wine Scranton anthracite.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:41 AM (iYbLN)

283 29% tax hike

All over the world, governments large and small are discovering the benefits of living on the falling side of the Laffer Curve. You could be next.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at July 10, 2012 11:41 AM (SDkq3)

284 YOU ran them out to the burbs!

Or up the Eynon, hayna or no?

Sigh. I miss Wegmans.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:41 AM (VtjlW)

285 A little more than a week after accusing Iran of supplying arms for Syria's bloody crackdown on democracy-minded rebels, the UN has given Tehran a key seat at negotiations for a global arms treaty.
The stunning appointment by member states attending the UN Conference of the Arms Trade Treaty in New York came last week, and is just the latest example of the world body appointing rogue and repressive regimes to leadership roles. The 15-nation committee to which Iran was appointed hopes to guide what could eventually become the first legally binding global treaty aimed at regulating the international trade of conventional arms.
Critics say asking Iran to help craft a treaty aimed at stopping arms proliferation to terrorist groups and rogue states makes a mockery of the talks.

And the hits just keep on coming

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 11:42 AM (05RcU)

286 Or up the Eynon, hayna or no?



Sigh. I miss Wegmans.



Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012


OMG, my queen. You speak NEPA?

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:42 AM (iYbLN)

287 I have never ridden in a Public Trans Bus. I wonder how many other people have never been in one.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 11:40 AM (9TTOe)


Not since I was a wee lassie and my mother didn't want to drive in Manchester.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:42 AM (4df7R)

288 You are all welcome in our Big Tent.

Posted by: Establishment Gypsy Moth at July 10, 2012 11:43 AM (I27d2)

289 Paul Krugman, the dumbest "economist" on planet earth sez: "keep spending, fools!"

Posted by: Fresh at July 10, 2012 11:44 AM (O7ksG)

290 you guys are making me cry with all the Pennsy bashing

not that it isn't all true! sob!

Now I want some "local flavor" food for lunch and there's nothing but franchises here.

yeah, you really don't want to do that.

OTOH - where I live (Chester County) is lovely, you just avoid the Commie PA towns (Allentown, Scranton, Norristown, Coatesville, Chester and Reading). These towns kill me because they are all extremely well-located and should be BOOMING. But they're stupid and Communist so they suck.

The Dub-C tho! It rocks! And Lititz, where my husband hails from. Really cute, like a real-life Stars Hollow, replete with cutesy festivals (well, West Chester has those too but not quite as twee as Lititz).

Bethlehem used to be really nice. Sigh.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 11:44 AM (J6kXj)

291 Paul Krugman, the dumbest "economist" on planet earth sez: "keep spending, fools!"

Or, "Keep firing, assholes!"

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:45 AM (T0NGe)

292 OMG, my queen. You speak NEPA?

Come, sit by me, my sweet, and we shall converse in that variant of the Common Speech whilst sharing birch beer and a tray of white from Alfredo's.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:45 AM (VtjlW)

293 Oh and the PA Game Commission is full of idiots. They refuse to cull deer, and refuse to allow hunters to do so either (are cheapass with permits)

I hate them! they used to be great guys. Full of liberals now. Who knew the "long march thru the institutions" was going to include the PA Game Commission?

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 11:46 AM (J6kXj)

294

Won't these people just go on strike?

It sounds like that's what the Mayor is wanting them to do.
He can't tell them to strike.....so he just cuts their pay, knowing that will prompt them to to strike.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 11:46 AM (MbB0O)

295 >>Ding, ding, ding! And HeatherRadish is correct!

My BIL directs a partially federally-funded public transportation program for a town in the middle of nowhere, population 20k or so.

He gets to go to a lot of MLB games on junkets around the U.S., for "training" and other gatherings of similar federal employees.

When they came to Indy last summer for a conference, instead of riding a bus from downtown to a restaurant in Broad Ripple he wanted to add to his Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives list, he called me for a ride. He bought my dinner (his was paid for with your tax dollars), and it was kind of an interesting evening, but damn.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 11:47 AM (ZKzrr)

296 you guys are making me cry with all the Pennsy bashing

Awww, BlackOrchid. Don't cry! Honestly, I don't LIKE bashing Pennsylvania. It's just that it's got such a great location, with so much land and potential, and yet it continually scrapes the bottom of the barrel with its idiot socialist dumbassery!

But they're stupid and Communist so they suck.

EXACTLY.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:47 AM (4df7R)

297 These towns kill me because they are all extremely well-located and
should be BOOMING. But they're stupid and Communist so they suck.


Look at the Jersey Shore (not the show, the towns). Only libs could ruin beachfront property.


The Dub-C tho! It rocks! And Lititz, where my husband hails from.

Native Lancastrian here. I have an affinity for Lititz because it's where the airport is. Sure, I have to take 2 layovers, but it's totally worth it.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:47 AM (T0NGe)

298 Come, sit by me, my sweet, and we shall converse in that variant of the Common Speech whilst sharing birch beer and a tray of white from Alfredo's.
no pierogies ?

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 11:47 AM (lOnIe)

299 irongrampa at July 10, 2012 11:23 AM (
I've lived in CS my entire life. World of difference. When the Mrs moved in, she used to get call her Dad in Scranton when she saw a plow truck go by and bust his ass. He's never seen a plow truck!
And keeping my HS/College Jalopies on the road required a sectional knowlege of DeNaples for parts

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 10, 2012 11:48 AM (Xx6Lw)

300 Nepa ... who knew???

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:49 AM (GvYeG)

301

#BeatingOnAmerica

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 09:42 AM (evdj2)


This is brilliant!
I love it.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 11:49 AM (MbB0O)

302 Oh and the PA Game Commission is full of idiots. They refuse to cull deer, and refuse to allow hunters to do so either (are cheapass with permits)

It's all fun and games until someone gets an antler through the eye as they're crushed to death by a bewildered buck who's just wandered onto I76.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 10, 2012 11:49 AM (4df7R)

303 AmishDude, Lititz has three places now brewing craft beers in town - well, Appalachian Brewing Company is a chain I guess, but it's still awesome.

that plus the one that Gaga hangs out at and my favorite - Sturgis Haus (it's a brewpub AND espresso bar! what the?!?! heaven!) . . .

Lititz. She is a good town.

Parkesburg is getting a Victory as well, it's really coming up too.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 11:49 AM (J6kXj)

304
Well, time to call Teddy Kennedy on the hotline.

Heh...see what I did there?

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 11:50 AM (vbh31)

305 289
Paul Krugman, the dumbest "economist" on planet earth sez: "keep spending, fools!"

Posted by: Fresh at July 10, 2012 11:44 AM

In that debate in Europe with a Spanish economist, he got badly owned. Krugman got all butthurt and refused to shake the guy's hand after the debate. I guess the guy didn't get the word that only Paul Krugman possesses the superior intellect to smugly dismiss and insult all dissenters

Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:51 AM (Y+DPZ)

306 Oh and the PA Game Commission is full of idiots.

The Liquor Control board is the worst.

I could write an essay on PA's stupid liquor laws. Let's just say that Utah is less restrictive.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:51 AM (T0NGe)

307 The turnpike, 40 years ago, in sleet, that's an interesting drive across PA. Coming across the huge ass bridge over Clarks Summit, at 2:00 a.m., in an ice storm. Yeah. That's fun.
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:38 AM
Alex, that bridge is named for my Grandfather.

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 10, 2012 11:51 AM (Xx6Lw)

308 9 What Scranton needs is a big, fat sewer project.

Scranton IS a big fat sewer....

No loss really if it just went away.

The future is Texas anyway - screw the Northeast.

Posted by: izoneguy at July 10, 2012 11:52 AM (hbRed)

309 I'm not giving up on Pennsy. I just can't.

Most of my college friends all left. They are all really happy, too.

Sigh.

But somebody has to stay and try to make things work here! It's still a great state! I know Philly and those towns I mentioned drag it down. But still. Illinois is more than Chicago, too.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 11:52 AM (J6kXj)

310 our answer to the LCB is just making our own (in-state) wine and beer.

I can get Chadds Ford wines shipped to me.

Yay.

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 11:53 AM (J6kXj)

311 190
Loved the Krugman beat-down in the sidebar. Professor Schwartz starts with "An honor to be with such a very distinguished, uh, columnist..."



Krugman was not at all happy with his Keynesianism being challenged.

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2012 11:11 AM

Krug .... I'm LAUGHING at the "superior intellect"

Posted by: Professor Schwartz at July 10, 2012 11:53 AM (Y+DPZ)

312 "[...] you have a spending problem, not a cash flow problem."

Well, when the fact that you think of your taxable constituency as a bottomless piggy bank results in vastly more money flowing out than will ever flow in, I suppose that could technically be called a "cash flow problem".

Posted by: PCachu at July 10, 2012 11:53 AM (r2Oug)

313 308 "The future is Texas anyway - screw the Northeast."
That's what we been sayin' ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:54 AM (GvYeG)

314 313 308 "The future is Texas anyway - screw the Northeast."
That's what we been sayin' ...

Posted by: Honey Badger, drinker of mead at July 10, 2012 11:54 AM (GvYeG)

The problem is keeping the Libs in the Northeast. They are like locusts, they'll strip an area clean and move on...

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 11:56 AM (136wp)

315 I'm not giving up on Pennsy. I just can't.



Most of my college friends all left. They are all really happy, too.


The oldster Dems in western PA can't figure out why their grandkids live 1000+ miles away.

Look for...the union label...

Posted by: AmishDude at July 10, 2012 11:56 AM (T0NGe)

316
Come, sit by me, my sweet, and we shall converse in that variant of the
Common Speech whilst sharing birch beer and a tray of white from
Alfredo's.

no pierogies ?


We shall also require copious amounts of Stegmaier Gold Medal Beer.

Posted by: mpfs at July 10, 2012 11:57 AM (iYbLN)

317 Alex, that bridge is named for my Grandfather.

Now that is very cool.

The Liquor Control board is the worst.
People at meetups have been subjected to dpud and I going on and on and on about the PA liquor laws. I nearly wept with joy the first time I went into Target after moving to NC and realized I could leave with a case of beer. On Sunday.

I will admit that I am a bit unsure of the wisdom of being able to buy alcohol at a gas station. Bit of a mixed message, that.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 11:57 AM (VtjlW)

318
Texas doesn't have enough defensible ground.
The future is Wyoming.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 11:57 AM (I27d2)

319 318
Texas doesn't have enough defensible ground.
The future is Wyoming.
Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 11:57 AM (I27d2)

Alaska?

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 11:59 AM (136wp)

320
I am delighted so far by Prince Reebus; he is a big improvement over M Steele.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:01 PM (g8WYH)

321 I am delighted so far by Prince Reebus; he is a big improvement over M Steele.Posted by: soothsayer

That's Star Khan Prince Reebus to you, Mister.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2012 12:02 PM (sClIO)

322 Texas is neither what is was (a good thing) nor what it will be (probably a bad thing).

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:02 PM (eEfYn)

323 Alex, my G-pa was a one eyed, drunken, "Fitz".He designed and built it. He was a Commissioner on the T-Pike. Funniesat SOB ya ever met.
And Irongrandpa, all those totalled Plymouths at DeNaples are his old "company" cars!

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 10, 2012 12:02 PM (Xx6Lw)

324
Alaska?

Most of the inhabited portions of Alaska are coastal.
We're gonna need a naval force if we set up shop on the coast.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 12:04 PM (I27d2)

325 @ 299

One of my uncles had/has the Chevy dealership near the Lackawanna Trail. on the way out of CS. Used to get chased out of there on a regular basis for pestering the mechs--wanting to know about how cars were fixed.

I spent one summer as a yard ape there--the lowest form of life-- and just thought it was the best thing ever.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 10, 2012 12:04 PM (SAMxH)

326 OT: Did anyone else getting a census survey recently? I thought these were sent out in 2010. They've sent us 2 in the past few weeks and now they're sending nasty reminder cards.

Posted by: Tami at July 10, 2012 12:05 PM (X6akg)

327 Whoa.....major grammar fail!


Did anyone else GET a census survey....yada, yada, yada

Posted by: Tami at July 10, 2012 12:06 PM (X6akg)

328 326 OT: Did anyone else getting a census survey recently? I thought these were sent out in 2010.
----
Nope. Last one I got was when we were still in CA (2010).

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2012 12:06 PM (5H6zj)

329 @310 They sell beer at Wegman's now, if you have one nearby. Way lower prices than the beer shops or taverns. NowI don't have to go buy beer on my lunch hour in New Jersey anymore! And they have a very cool feature, for $9.99 you can put together your own six-pack of local craft beers.

They do make some damn fine beer in Pennsylvania. And the whole state isn'tt a shithole, most of Bucks County is beautiful. I grew up in Kentucky, and I tell people that Bucks is like Kentucky without the redneck accents.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 12:07 PM (NYnoe)

330 Texas will eventually be infected with enough outsiders to screw it up also if the insiders don't do it first. It's a fact that Austin has some connection with Sacramento when it comes to how to process entitlements.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 12:07 PM (zEeUf)

331 I'm scratching Scranton off my bucket list.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:09 PM (KXm42)

332 I love the LCB stores. Nothing like lazy bureaucrats selling booze in drab and lifeless stores. It's like the DMV only with alcohol.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 12:10 PM (NYnoe)

333 All your grammar fail are belong to us!

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:10 PM (KXm42)

334 Don't you just love it when Dem towns/cities/states, led by Dems, fall flat on their faces. It is inevitable. It may be the only thing that can wake up the nation prior to the same thing happening in DC.

Smooches and kisses to Scranton. Thanks for your excellent anti-example.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:10 PM (ccXZP)

335 330
This will probably (unfortunately) be seen as the golden age of Texas. With the viscous caste system, racism, provincialism, backwardness, conservative Democrats is the past. With liberal in-migration, third-world mass immigration, leftist Democrats in the future.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:11 PM (eEfYn)

336 I would say this thread is stale, but the discussion is about beer, so...

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 12:11 PM (rX1N2)

337 Victory Brewing Company
Troegs Brewing Company
Weyerbacher Brewing Company

Other than that, Pennsylvania is just in the way.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:12 PM (nEUpB)

338 We need all the yeast for fuel production. No more beer!

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (eEfYn)

339 This thread smells like the inside of a tire.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (KXm42)

340
beer, like this thread, is made from hops, which nobody knows what that is.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (x3Lkt)

341 A town the size of Scranton could get by with a volunteer fire department. Or at least majority volunteer.

Posted by: yinzer at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (/Mla1)

342 It's time for Beer Summit II.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (vbh31)

343 339 This thread smells like the inside of a tire.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:13 PM (KXm42)

That's been in the back of the junkyard and is filled with rain water for a decade....

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 10, 2012 12:14 PM (136wp)

344 Did anyone else GET a census survey....yada, yada, yada>>

Here's where to go for info on the census. It apparently is not just every decade they feel it necessary to collect this crap.

http://www.census.gov/survey_participants/household_surveys/

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 10, 2012 12:14 PM (tf9Ne)

345 OT

Just got back from lunch @ Panera. It would have been nice to have had some chicken and lettuce mixed in with my bowl of croutons.

That is all.

Posted by: Gran at July 10, 2012 12:15 PM (p8FXV)

346 ...Citizens don't exist to serve the needs of public sector workers...

This is very dangerous talk comrade.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:15 PM (044mj)

347 330
Texas will eventually be infected with enough outsiders to screw it up
also if the insiders don't do it first. It's a fact that Austin has
some connection with Sacramento when it comes to how to process
entitlements.

Posted by: polynikes at July 10, 2012 12:07 PM (zEeUf)
My sister and brother-in-law just moved from NM to a little town in the Fort Worth area. Hardcore conservatives both. They bought an acre of land--with a house of course.
I promise to leave all CA values behind when I move there and build a house on their land. You Texans should make that a law for entry.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 10, 2012 12:15 PM (6kWFm)

348 From this morning's thread.

If the lawyers in AL get their money then city workers in Scranton want their money as well.

This despite the fact they are the reason the city is bankrupt.

http://is.gd/UIRvtX


So they sue.

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:15 PM (YdQQY)

349 croutons never get any respect

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:16 PM (0D8hD)

350 Just got back from lunch @ Panera. It would have been nice to have had
some chicken and lettuce mixed in with my bowl of croutons.


I had a delicious mayonnaise sandwich there once.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:17 PM (KXm42)

351 @337 Dock Street and Yards make excellent beers too. Triumph Brewing Company in Bucks County makes some good ones as well.

Posted by: rockmom at July 10, 2012 12:17 PM (qE3AR)

352 Measuring America—People, Places, and Our Economy

This is the motto of the Census Bureau as taken from their web site. WTF, I thought they were supposed to just count people.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:17 PM (9TTOe)

353 Victory Brewing CompanyTroegs Brewing CompanyWeyerbacher Brewing CompanyYuengling ? Tops on my list.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 12:17 PM (lOnIe)

354 WTF???

Posted by: Crouton at July 10, 2012 12:18 PM (GvYeG)

355 349 croutons never get any respect
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:16 PM (0D8hD)

I dunno, me and the Mrs. sure do fight over them at the restaurant.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:18 PM (9TTOe)

356 Texas doesn't have enough defensible ground.
The future is Wyoming.>>

If we set up in the mountains do we get to take the winters off during the fight just like the Taliban?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 10, 2012 12:18 PM (tf9Ne)

357 "Just got back from lunch @ Panera. It would have been nice to have had some chicken and lettuce mixed in with my bowl of croutons."
You know, I'm about to dump my franchisor's name and go independent. Just went to Panera to pick up a menu as a tad of market research since they're a somewhat related competitor.

What a bunch of over-priced, pretentious crap.

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 12:18 PM (rX1N2)

358 Apropos of nothing, I bought a 5oz Summer Sausage for a buck for a snack and since the casing is some form of inedible plasticine substance, I'm resorting to squeezing the guts out into my mouth like a toothpaste tube to eat it.

All I can think about is Shoshone Sausage.

Shudder.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at July 10, 2012 12:19 PM (evdj2)

359 Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:10 PM (ccXZP)

I think that it is unfortunate that so many here have the attitude that we should let these people simply die. The federal government can help Scranton get back on its feet by funding the pension plans and loaning it enough money to pay its municipal employees.

Then it could make some real investments in the future of Scranton such as an airport and perhaps some light rail or even a high speed line to Philly and Pittsburgh. That way people who want to live outside of the cities but still work in the cities will be able to. A downtown redevelopment project would draw retailers and business from all over to invest in Scranton. Bringing the schools up to par would draw people from the cities...as long as the teacher/student ratio was good. The government could create a special fund to increase the salaries of the teachers so that the kids could get a really top-flight education.

Posted by: Lucy's Ben-Wa Balls (Well-meaning Progressive) at July 10, 2012 12:19 PM (nEUpB)

360 OT
--
There are now complaints that McDonald's(purveyor of unhealthy food) is a big sponsor of the Olympics (an inspiration for fitness and healthy living).

OOT
How does the $/crouton at McDonald's compare the the $/crouton at Panera?

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:19 PM (eEfYn)

361 How about an update re. you and wifey's condition this pm for your moron internet friends.
Saves on useless but possibly comedic Hospital calls.
I'd
like to inquire about a patient.Relation? Some moron.Patient's Name?
Vic's wifey.That won't work. Mid 60s, curmudgeon, porch rocker shaped
ass, NOBAMA t-shirt.That won't help either, there's a morning and
afternoon bridge section that all fit that description here.


Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 09:42 AM (864A5)

LOL, she is still there and still throwing up. They have been able to get some food in her though so I guess she is improving somewhat.

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:19 PM (YdQQY)

362 Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 12:18 PM (rX1N2)

Panera is the MILF version of Hooters.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:19 PM (9TTOe)

363 305 Posted by: kbdabear at July 10, 2012 11:51 AM (Y+DPZ)

In lieu of a debate, they should have just slugged it out. Of course Krugman would have lost that too and it would have been more satisfying for the viewer.

I guess that's just the Scranton in me.

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 12:20 PM (4eNxd)

364 What a bunch of over-priced, pretentious crap.

-----


WERD

Posted by: STARBUCKS at July 10, 2012 12:20 PM (C8hzL)

365 I try real hard!

Posted by: Crouton at July 10, 2012 12:21 PM (GvYeG)

366 Panera has those AMAZING cinnamon-sugar bagels tho - OMG

carbTASTIC

Posted by: BlackOrchidPinesForDagny at July 10, 2012 12:21 PM (J6kXj)

367

it's people, toby.

you're eating people.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:22 PM (3Aqe5)

368 @BloombergNews
Confidence among small U.S. companies falls by most in two years

#DoingJustFine #ImHappy #ForeMoarYears

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2012 12:22 PM (sClIO)

369 We tried real hard!

Posted by: Scranton at July 10, 2012 12:22 PM (GvYeG)

370 >>>A downtown redevelopment project would draw retailers and business from all over to invest in Scranton.

I do love a good satire.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:22 PM (ZKzrr)

371 I give myself a B+

Posted by: crouton at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (/Mla1)

372 I do like the soups and sandwiches at Panera though they are a bit pricey. On the other hand, their pastries/cookies are pathetic.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (eEfYn)

373
you ever feel bad when you pass over stuff in the salad bar?

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (Jnd70)

374 It cannot possibly be a spending issue, clearly its just the skinflint jerks in the public who just won't keep giving the government ever more money for their pet projects, corruption, and waste. What tightwads!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (r4wIV)

375
What a bunch of over-priced, pretentious crap.

-----

WERD
Posted by: STARBUCKS at July 10, 2012 12:20 PM (C8hzL)

Hey that's Venti 10-4, my friend.

Posted by: USS Diversity at July 10, 2012 12:24 PM (cjTjM)

376 374
---
Exactly. As the sheriff says, there are just not enough patriotic people out there.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:24 PM (eEfYn)

377
I do love a good satire.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:22 PM (ZKzrr)


LOL, you are the Female EoJ.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (9TTOe)

378 Brattleboro has excellent public services and a low crime rate, and we are all happy to pay for them.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (jCQ+I)

379 Meh, give'em all paper checks for the full amount, and let'em know its a race to the bank as to who gets paid. Within a few weeks, there should have been enough murders to thin the herd down to where nobody's check bounces anymore.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (044mj)

380 Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (Jnd70)

I avoid that by never going to the salad bar, and just sticking to the five main food groups:

Bacon
Cheese
Crusty bread
Beer
Grilled steak (pork chops are good too!)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (nEUpB)

381 373
you ever feel bad when you pass over stuff in the salad bar?

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:23 PM (Jnd70)

Fruits and vegetables have feelings. I've forming a new group. FETA.

Posted by: L1berial at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (136wp)

382 Bacon
Cheese
Crusty bread
Beer
Grilled steak (pork chops are good too!)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:25 PM (nEUpB)

What? No potato?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:26 PM (9TTOe)

383 We try real hard! Crouton anyone ...?

Posted by: Democrat Minion at July 10, 2012 12:26 PM (GvYeG)

384 cheese and most bread are not your friends

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:27 PM (/v7wy)

385 Isn't it about time for the Noon Contentless Post?

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at July 10, 2012 12:27 PM (evdj2)

386 would draw retailers and business from all over to invest in Scranton.

Scranton is in the middle of the mountains. There's nothing near it. Businesses could operate out of trailers and mud huts and they'd still have a captive market.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:27 PM (044mj)

387 359

The perfect segue

http://tinyurl.com/6oqesq5

the type stuff that "makes sense, until you think about it"

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (4eNxd)

388 There are 76K people in Scranton. That is > 30K so they are doomed. They crossed 30K sometime in the 1860s so that is when they started sliding downhill.

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (YdQQY)

389 That's been in the back of the junkyard and is filled with rain water for a decade....

Hey, we like it in here!

Posted by: Malaria Producers Mosquito Union Local # 409 at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (d0Tfm)

390 359 Posted by: Lucy's Ben-Wa Balls (Well-meaning Progressive)

I gotta admit, you have it down perfect. Bravo.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (ccXZP)

391 you ever feel bad when you pass over stuff in the salad bar?

Nope............explain to me why beets are on a salad bar......to make the sprouts look edible?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (OWjjx)

392 I demand to be entertained. Make with teh funny, Ace.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at July 10, 2012 12:29 PM (evdj2)

393 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:26 PM (9TTOe)

Partial list. The full list includes replacement foods.

For instance:

Beer = Gin and Tonic = bourbon.
Bread = potatoes (fried of course)
Grilled steak = brined double-cut pork chops = smoked pork ribs


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:29 PM (nEUpB)

394 391 you ever feel bad when you pass over stuff in the salad bar?

Nope............explain to me why beets are on a salad bar......to make the sprouts look edible?
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:28 PM (OWjjx)

No, it's a tax

Posted by: John Roberts at July 10, 2012 12:30 PM (136wp)

395 So, Did Ace and teh cob bloggers join a union and we only get 1 post a day?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:30 PM (OWjjx)

396 beets are not food.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:30 PM (KXm42)

397 would draw retailers and business from all over to invest in Scranton.
nah, DC is where all the cool business can be found. That's Dickson City !

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 12:30 PM (lOnIe)

398 Who would lead in a salad bar society? I say the Iceberg lettuce. It is the basis on witch all salads are formed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:30 PM (9TTOe)

399 why do they keep putting out that stuff when it's clear nobody wants it?

they end up discarding it

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:31 PM (UWdoo)

400 Borrow the $$$$ or raise taxes?

These are the choices in Scranton?

Perhaps they are waiting for $$ from Heaven should Obama succeed in raising taxes on "the wealthy".


Posted by: There's Just No More Teet To Suck, Scranton. at July 10, 2012 12:31 PM (AzwZn)

401 Sounds like Pennsylvania old home week.
My dad used to take my mother to Screpsies sandwich shop in Reading when they were dating in Pottstown.
After graduating from one of the Allentown High Schools, I worked as a repair tech for Sears, out of the building by the old ABE airport.
Part of my area was up into the WB/Scranton area in the late 70's.
Entered the Navy from the MEPS station up there.

And if I remember right, even in the 70's, as a teenager, I would ride around in my turquoise blue Sears repair truck thinking "Who in the hell would voluntarily choose to stay in Scranton?".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 10, 2012 12:31 PM (AnVD1)

402 >>why do they keep putting out that stuff when it's clear nobody wants it?

So they don't lose federal vegetable consumption subsidies?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ recycling a gag, but with some kernel of truth at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (ZKzrr)

403 why do they keep putting out that stuff when it's clear nobody wants it? they end up discarding it
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:31 PM (UWdoo)
I threatened to burn their restaurants to the ground if they didn't purchase my beets.

Posted by: Dwight Schrute, Scranton Beet Farmer at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (/Mla1)

404
373
you ever feel bad when you pass over stuff in the salad airborne bacteriabar?

FIFM
....And....no.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (MbB0O)

405 Beer = Gin and Tonic = bourbon.
Bread = potatoes (fried of course)
Grilled steak = brined double-cut pork chops = smoked pork ribs


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:29 PM (nEUpB)

I like the way you think.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (9TTOe)

406 Who would lead in a salad bar society? I say the Iceberg lettuce.

We are not all smiles and sunshine.

Posted by: German Potato Salat at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (evdj2)

407
They do make some damn fine beer in Pennsylvania.

Iron City beer. Yum!

Anybody here know how to make a pair of Iron City fart goggles?

Posted by: Beer Connoisseur at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (7+pP9)

408 why do they keep putting out that stuff when it's clear nobody wants it?





they end up discarding it>>



Because it keeps down my feed prices.

Posted by: Pig farmer at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (tf9Ne)

409 Senator Frank once told me I had a "pewty mouf". I wasn't quite sure how to take that.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (vbh31)

410 Democratic Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is facing mounting calls to provide more details about his unexplained indefinite leave of absence from Congress.
The congressman's office says a "serious" medical condition has Jackson undergoing treatment. But officials as high as Sen. Dick Durbin, a Democrat and senior member of the Illinois congressional delegation, are now urging him to clear up what exactly has kept him from work since June 10. Durbin is joined by church leaders, Jackson political challengers and voters in asking for more details and expressing concern about whether they are still being represented by their elected official.


Hey being jessie jackson sr's son is excuse enough for me to be sick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (05RcU)

411 A town the size of Scranton could get by with a volunteer fire department. Or at least majority volunteer.

Yeah but all that happens then is that Tony embezzles the department's money.

Meh, give'em all paper checks for the full amount, and let'em know its a race to the bank as to who gets paid.

Oh. My. God. I now have this vision of lumbering herds of city workers racing, okay, well, strolling down N. Washington trying to get to Penn Security.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (VtjlW)

412 And take note of the AL county that has declared bankruptcy. Their lawyers are raising hell because the county told them they couldn't afford to pay them either, and tell me why the lawyers should get $1M/month in fees.


http://is.gd/QPfNwX


Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:33 PM (YdQQY)

413 Who would lead in a salad bar society? I say the Iceberg lettuce. It is the basis on witch all salads are formed.

If the same dumbasses vote for that as do our Presidential elections, the salad bar leader would be the beets because they don't look like the other items on the salad bar and to deny the beets the leadership role would be RRRAAAACCCCCIIIISSSTTTTTTT!!!ELEVENTY11!!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:33 PM (OWjjx)

414 the bread aisle ticks me off, too

they put out a variety of stupid bread that never gets sold

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:33 PM (E7Qlq)

415 "...mud huts..."

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:27 PM (044mj)

This is the typical racist attitude that keep this country from becoming the paradise that we deserve. You need to change the way you think before you can be a full-fledged member of the post-racial society that President Obama is building.

Posted by: Lucy's Ben-Wa Balls (Well-meaning Progressive) at July 10, 2012 12:33 PM (nEUpB)

416 Well, this usually works to wake Teh Furry One with a post.

Here's Pink Floyd's Money - http://tinyurl.com/3wprudf

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 12:33 PM (d0Tfm)

417 399
-
For the same reason bookstores have sections from which books are rarely purchased?

Fills space and doesn't require constant replenishment?

Or not.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:34 PM (eEfYn)

418 Around here they caught guys from a local Chinese buffet digging supermarlet vegetables out of the dumpster, wasing them off and putting them on the line.

Posted by: USS Diversity at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (cjTjM)

419 Bacon-bits are the Lords of the Salad Bar.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (evdj2)

420 *delurking*

On a lighter note, noted wearer of protective headgear Joe Slow Mo Biden remarked today about the "Republican Party I grew up in...". It should be noted that Joe naturally felt this way as it was a Republican who unstrapped hisn helmet so he could rub his hair plugs in that DC heat. He also prolly felt left out because no Democrat wold help him change his depends brief.
Natural that Joe would sympathize with us: we've worked with the mentally handicapped, The Democrats, for years, and helping Old Joe was just another act of kindness.
Of course he wants to be a Republican. Why wouldn't he? Democrats never helped him and now they just make fun of him. Debbie Whatsername Schlitz even gives him wedgies in his Short Bus© Limousine.
Poor slow minded guy just wants people "to understand folks like him..." and someone to wipe the slobber off his chin. Help cutting up large food items comes in handy too.
Why wouldn't the old knuckle head aspire to being a Republican. The alternative is to be an asshole, like the crowd he hangs out with now.
And he doesn't seem to recall being one of "them" growing up.

Poor old Joe, too stupid to know he got one right. Just this once.

*Relurking*

Posted by: sandman will resist at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (7qlme)

421 406 Who would lead in a salad bar society? I say the Iceberg lettuce.

We are not all smiles and sunshine.
Posted by: German Potato Salat at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (evdj2)

Why am I always between you and the Russian caviar?

Posted by: Pierogi at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (136wp)

422
btw, onions also ruin a good potata salad

a little vidallia onions, okay

nasty white onions, bad

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (i5gpY)

423 This thread has officially reached the 3 hour mark. Do you know where your Ewok is?

Posted by: dananjcon at July 10, 2012 12:36 PM (eavT+)

424 btw, onions also ruin a good potata salad

a little vidallia onions, okay

nasty white onions, bad
Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:35 PM (i5gpY)


Try diced green onions.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:36 PM (9TTOe)

425 418
Previously used vegetables complement dog meat quite well.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:36 PM (eEfYn)

426 And if I remember right, even in the 70's, as a teenager, I would ride
around in my turquoise blue Sears repair truck thinking "Who in the hell
would voluntarily choose to stay in Scranton?".


Rode on a bus through Erie once. Started having thoughts of suicide.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (KXm42)

427 DEM REP DEMANDS END TO TESTING: JUST SHOW UP FOR 12 YEARS, GET A DIPLOMA

http://www.breitbart.com/

No doubt this boob couldn't pass a standardized test

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (05RcU)

428 I lot of expensive $4/loaf fancy bread in grocery stores winds up in Big Lots or Dollar Tree the next day for a buck for $1.60.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (044mj)

429 I rule the salad bar bitches........I make people think you guys actually have a flavor!

Posted by: Ranch dressing at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (OWjjx)

430 I had some Iron City beer in Pittsburgh once. Also had some Yuengling but now you can buy that anywhere.

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (YdQQY)

431 Joe Biden, a crouton in the salad of life.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (Hx5uv)

432 423 This thread has officially reached the 3 hour mark. Do you know where your Ewok is?
Posted by: dananjcon at July 10, 2012 12:36 PM (eavT+)


He'll be here when he gets here and not one darn minute before.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (9TTOe)

433 You could all cruise over to my little slice of Intarwebz Heaven if y'all get too bored here. I stole a link from here (two, actually) and Zilla is sick.

Link in nic...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 12:38 PM (d0Tfm)

434 I like beats and white/yellow onions.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:38 PM (044mj)

435 429 I rule the salad bar bitches........I make people think you guys actually have a flavor!
Posted by: Ranch dressing at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (OWjjx)

Keep dreaming

Posted by: Maggots in Pepperoni at July 10, 2012 12:38 PM (136wp)

436
Around here they caught guys from a local Chinese buffet digging supermarlet vegetables out of the dumpster, wasing them off and putting them on the line.

They caught one of those guys at our local duck pond hunting 'Peking Duck' with a loaf of white bread and a cleaver!
Funny stuff.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2012 12:39 PM (I27d2)

437 >>JUST SHOW UP FOR 12 YEARS, GET A DIPLOMA

Hey, that's how I got mine. The kid who sat next to me at graduation couldn't read it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:39 PM (ZKzrr)

438 Is it too late for me to be snarky about jwest obvious tounge bath of Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:40 PM (OWjjx)

439 Ranch is so eating vegetables can be fattening too.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 12:40 PM (KXm42)

440 431 Joe Biden, a crouton in the salad of life.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 10, 2012 12:37 PM (Hx5uv)

No, he's a garbanzo bean. Pure pointless filler. Not even a FKing crunch.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:40 PM (9TTOe)

441 430
I had some Iron City beer in Pittsburgh once. Also had some Yuengling but now you can buy that anywhere.


In Pittsburgh they call it "Iron Shitty" beer.

Shot of rye and an Iron. Steelworkers lunch.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (KZI7g)

442 Yeah, ducks Peking from the bushes to make sure that guy with the cleaver is gone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (d0Tfm)

443 >>Also had some Yuengling but now you can buy that anywhere.

Except you can't: They only distribute to ten states.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (ZKzrr)

444 WZ has video of Pelosi dancing to ZZ Top at Barney Frank's wedding. It's even funnier than you think.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (9YUug)

445 They caught one of those guys at our local duck pond hunting 'Peking Duck' with a loaf of white bread and a cleaver!

Better him than me.

Posted by: The Chicken at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (vbh31)

446 Yeungling beer.

$15.99 a case for bottles here in Baltimore at my favorite store.
Three cases in the basement staying cool as we speak.

Oh...and Uncle Joe could maybe move back to Scranton.
Sort of bring it back to it's glory days and all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (AnVD1)

447 The only remaining justifications for Scranton are Cooper's (of course) and some of the small pizza/hoagie/sub/sandwich shops around the town.
The rest of it? Forget it.
Cooper's is mandatory when I visit family who live between Wilkes-Barre and Scranton.

Posted by: either orr at July 10, 2012 12:42 PM (yN6xf)

448 392 >> I demand to be entertained. Make with teh funny, Ace.

Toby, what kind of content would make you content?

The preceding sentence contains an example of a heterophone.

Now make with the funny, ace.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:42 PM (ccXZP)

449 They only distribute to ten states.[/]

Really? I buy it from WinnDixie in Alabama. It's on sale this week.

Who would have thought.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at July 10, 2012 12:43 PM (evdj2)

450 nah, DC is where all the cool business can be found. That's Dickson City !

Slut.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 12:43 PM (VtjlW)

451 HTML FAIL

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at July 10, 2012 12:43 PM (evdj2)

452 The preceding sentence contains an example of a heterophone.

Homenymphobic h8er!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 10, 2012 12:44 PM (d0Tfm)

453 Scranton really went to crap right after the "J's Atlantic City Submarine" shop closed.

Damn, now I want a cheese steak.
And a Yuengling.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 10, 2012 12:45 PM (AnVD1)

454 Damn the croutons! Full speed ahead!

Posted by: Admiral Farragut @ Panera at July 10, 2012 12:45 PM (p8FXV)

455
Shit...Boss Toonces is reminding me that I'm late for his daily "sabotage America" briefing. I'm in the doghouse, now.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 12:46 PM (vbh31)

456 A town the size of Scranton could get by with a volunteer fire department. Or at least majority volunteer.

Yeah but all that happens then is that Tony embezzles the department's money.


As opposed to the current model, where...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at July 10, 2012 12:46 PM (GBXon)

457 Identifying it as "Biden's hometown" is racist.

Posted by: Crispian at July 10, 2012 12:46 PM (uBMtY)

458 410
Democratic Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is facing mounting calls to provide
more details about his unexplained indefinite leave of absence from
Congress.



Hey being jessie jackson sr's son is excuse enough for me to be sick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 12:32 PM (05RcU)
Bet a "white girl" is involved. ("White girl" aka cocaine.)

Posted by: baldilocks at July 10, 2012 12:46 PM (6kWFm)

459 I will admit that I am a bit unsure of the wisdom of being able to buy alcohol at a gas station. Bit of a mixed message, that.

WI has liquor on shelves right with the Doritos.
There's drive thru's in some parts of SE MD.
I've seen buckets of cans on ice at gas stations in TX. Of course there's also dry spots, and you have to buy a membership to drink in the hotel bar spots.

Nothing like lazy bureaucrats selling booze in drab and lifeless stores

Glass so thick it's greenish with wire embedded.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 12:47 PM (864A5)

460

Kevin Costner....a singer?

There are ads running here, about Kevin Costner appearing at the Lucky Star Casino....in Concho, OK.
It shows him with a guitar...singing.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 12:47 PM (MbB0O)

461

that's why I'm so disappointed in Thad McCotter.

Thad didn't need to resign.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:48 PM (7GyjN)

462 It shows him with a guitar...singing.

Run for your lives.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 12:49 PM (vbh31)

463 And another thing.....
Allentown, and Yacoo's hot dogs.
With perogies.

Good eating.

And "Der Weinerschnitzel", which I believe is now closed up.
The only one that wasn't on the west coast.
Fantastic Kraut dogs back in the day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 10, 2012 12:49 PM (AnVD1)

464 Scranton must vote R, or Obama would have sent them some love by now in the form of an electric car or solar panel plant.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:50 PM (044mj)

465 Kevin Costner singing still has to be better than Kevin Costner in Water World.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:50 PM (OWjjx)

466 >> I demand to be entertained.

*juggles chainsaws*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:51 PM (ZKzrr)

467 Kevin Costner singing still has to be better than Kevin Costner in Water World.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:50 PM (OWjjx)

That was the longest movie I ever saw that didn't have any sex in it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2012 12:51 PM (05RcU)

468 Anything Costner does couldn't possibly compete with The Hoff's version of 'Hooked on a Feeling"

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 12:51 PM (rX1N2)

469 If you tear it down, the commies will come.

Posted by: James Earl Costner at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (vbh31)

470 Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 12:41 PM (ZKzrr)

According to their website they distribute to 14 states.

AL DE DC FL GA MD NC NJ NY OH PA SC TN VA WV

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (nEUpB)

471 410 Democratic Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

Rep. Jackson is ill and won't be able to come in today.

Posted by: Dr. Sanjay Gupta at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (4eNxd)

472 If we can't haz new content, can we at least haz cheerleaders with pointy elbows?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (OWjjx)

473 And you never see a PennDot worker when you need one

Whatever else they're doing or failing at they are out on the road with nothing between themselves and our steel behemoths of death but a neon yellow over-shirt.

Bro (15+ years PennDot inspector, no fallen bridges yet) just had a friend get clipped. Not fatally but hospitally.


Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (864A5)

474 I will admit that I am a bit unsure of the wisdom of being able to buy alcohol at a gas station. Bit of a mixed message, that.

I believe that Mississippi still has Mr Beer™ drive through convenience stores with draft beer on tap.

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 12:52 PM (evdj2)

475 God will not permit this to happen!

I am going to be allowed to fulfill my salad order!

His will be done.

Posted by: Gen. Patton @ Panera at July 10, 2012 12:53 PM (p8FXV)

476 I'm only here to read new content and chew bubblegum and it looks like we're all out of new content.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 10, 2012 12:53 PM (kSaUf)

477 Here s where they have distributors

NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

478 Haven't seen the Pyramids yet? Buy a postcard.

According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6oezzzv (from Drudge link)

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:54 PM (ccXZP)

479 NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH

Gesundheit

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 12:55 PM (evdj2)

480 NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH

It's some form of Elvish...

Posted by: Frodo Baggins at July 10, 2012 12:55 PM (p8FXV)

481 Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:54 PM (ccXZP)

Good. Let them withdraw from the human race.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (nEUpB)

482 I likeYoung Ling.

Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)

483
It shows him with a guitar...singing.

That's nothing...Weaselzippers has video of San Frean Nan dancing to 'Sharp Dressed Man' at Barney Frank's wedding!

Posted by: Do-Nothing Goggles at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (I27d2)

484 It's some form of Elvish...

Speak Friend, or GTFO.

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (evdj2)

485 478
--
It might be interesting to see the dumbf*cks cover them with wax. Very interesting.

Posted by: RioBravo at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eEfYn)

486 Posted by: Frodo Baggins at July 10, 2012 12:55 PM (p8FXV)

Nah...that's the 53rd state.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 10, 2012 12:57 PM (nEUpB)

487
465Kevin Costner singing still has to be better than Kevin Costner in Water World.

Heh.
I didn't know he could sing.....but I guess he thinks he can.
The thing is, Lucky Star Casino is one of the older Indian casinos here.
It's in a little town....about 50 miles west of OKC.
There are quite a few bigger, newer, glitzier casinos here now....that have big name Vegas acts appearing at them.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 12:57 PM (MbB0O)

488 What do you bet that the police, fire, AFSCME and teacher's unions in Scranton skew white?
Here's some interesting stats to chew on:
When Obama took office in January 2009, the unemployment rate for white men who were 25-54 years old, i.e., in their prime earning years (the Regular Guy is 53... better get moving!), was 8.1% at the trough of the recession. In June 2012 it is back down to 5.9%.Meanwhile, the unemployment rate for blacks, which was 12.7% when Obama took office, has actually gone up to 14.4% in June 2012. The unemployment rate for Hispanics, which was 10.0% when Obama took office, was up to 11.0% in June 2012. And the unemployment rate for young people, ages 16-24, which was 14.9% in January 2009, is now up to 16.5% as of last month's jobs report. All of this can easily be found at the BLS website.
The real Obama recordreflects government that is at the service of the professional elites, the business elites, the governmental elites, the union elites, the politically-connected. In other words, middle-aged white dudes. Like a Scranton city administrator.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at July 10, 2012 12:57 PM (qHCyt)

489 Everytime I drive through PA (to avoid D.C., NYC, NJ, MD, DE) everything is
a "construction zone" with enhanced speeding penalties, but the supposed work areas got weeds 8 feet tall and obviously haven't seen human boots or a shovel in years, and they stretch on for 15 or 20 miles.

I think maybe the state is just using these phony construction zones to collect heftier speeding fines, jah?


Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:57 PM (044mj)

490 Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)

Nice.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)

491 Haven't seen the Pyramids yet? Buy a postcard.

I believe that this will happen. Hell, it could happen at any time.

Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding? Cannon fire? Large artillery? Tie a bunch of ropes to tanks and pull? C'mon Horde, I know you'll know the answer to this.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (VtjlW)

492

Bold prediction: 2nd qtr GDP will be 0.8%

Last year it was 1.3%, I'd be stunned if it matches or exceeds that figure this year.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (LL42r)

493

480
NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH



It's some form of Elvish...

Posted by: Frodo Baggins


It is the Black Speech of Morrrrdhorrr, which I will not utter here.

Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (UaxA0)

494 NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH

I recognize that line from one of my boss's horrible and ubiquitous speeches.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (vbh31)

495 what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding?

Like the old joke about collapsing pyramids.

Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (evdj2)

496 Kevin Costner moved more dirt in Waterworld with that little tomato plant of his than any of Obama's "shovel ready" projects ever did.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (044mj)

497 So does soothsayer have his index finger hovering over the left mouse buttonready to post a pre-typed comment announcing a new thread is up?

Or was that Soona?

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (rX1N2)

498 Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding? Cannon fire? Large artillery? Tie a bunch of ropes to tanks and pull? C'mon Horde, I know you'll know the answer to this.
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (VtjlW)

Well, they enslaved the Jews to put them up, they will probably want to enslave them and make them take em down.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (9TTOe)

499 Bad news, Colorado -- your slice of the ObamaPie just got a little smaller:

Much like taxpayer-backed Abound Solar – which just revealed it would declare bankruptcy – General Electric announced last week it would suspend construction of a solar panel manufacturing plant in Colorado. The excuse given was that GE plans to focus on research and development to improve the technology and efficiency of the panels it wants to produce.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7ot3pfq

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 12:59 PM (ccXZP)

500 NYPANJMDDEDCWVVANCSCTNALGAFLOH

Doe! A deer! A female deer! Flying through my windshield at night!

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 01:00 PM (VtjlW)

501 Or was that Soona?

You hurt my feelings.

Posted by: ersta mahnn at July 10, 2012 01:00 PM (evdj2)

502 >>According to their website they distribute to 14 states.

They've expanded since the last time I checked. Still not "everywhere."

Nothing I like gets distributed to Indiana. I've had to switch to hard liquor. And the fucked-up tax structure makes it cheaper than shit beer.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (ZKzrr)

503 C'mon Horde, I know you'll know the answer to this.

Suicide bombers. Lots and lots of suicide bombers.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (KXm42)

504 "I've seen buckets of cans on ice at gas stations in TX."

I have not seen this, and I live here.

If anyone needs me, there's this convenience store I know where you can practically see a fishing pier on PK from the parking lot. I will be scrounging up every last dollar I have in order to buy this store.

THIS. IS. GENIUS.

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (sPO/s)

505 Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding? Cannon fire? Large artillery? Tie a bunch of ropes to tanks and pull? C'mon Horde, I know you'll know the answer to this.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (VtjlW)


I'd recommend a really big Decepticon Transformer.

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (rX1N2)

506
I know you'll know the answer to this.

We can't figure out how to raise an Obelisk, but we can sure as fuck knock one over!

Posted by: Goat Fuckers Local #5 at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (I27d2)

507 Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids

The MB should call Cristo and let him cover them with white plastic sheets until the adults regain control of the joint. If the dude can cover an island, he can handle a pyramid.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (044mj)

508 Well I guess the pyramids are off the bucket list.

Posted by: Infidel at July 10, 2012 01:01 PM (O/fK8)

509 Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids

Long bow of course !

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 10, 2012 01:02 PM (lOnIe)

510 >>Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding?

Moron Horde Chili Cookoff?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 01:02 PM (ZKzrr)

511 Eric Holder is in Houston right now blasting Texas for its voter id law requiring a license to vote. Contrast this with Drudge's headline on Chicago. Once again, the misplaced priorities of our justice department.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2012 01:02 PM (gmeXX)

512 I think it is about time for an Open Afternoon Thread, content free.



That's sort of like an AoSHQ green certificate.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 10, 2012 01:03 PM (KZI7g)

513 "Doe! A deer! A female deer! Flying through my windshield at night!"

Ray! A guy who pours me beeeeeerrrr...

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:03 PM (sPO/s)

514
Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids>>

Put Obama in charge of managing them.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 10, 2012 01:03 PM (tf9Ne)

515 On The Campaign Trail.........

Romney in Colorado talking about the economy.

Obama in Iowa talking about Mitt's off-shore accounts.

Posted by: In A Nutshell. at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (AzwZn)

516 513 "Doe! A deer! A female deer! Flying through my windshield at night!"

Ray! A guy who pours me beeeeeerrrr...
Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:03 PM (sPO/s)

Me! A gay, I touch myself.

Posted by: Barky at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (9TTOe)

517 Maybe they could just sell the pyramids with the stipulation the buyer is responsible for disassemble and transport. They could generate billions in revenue that way.

The Brits sold london bridge, right?

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (044mj)

518
Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids


Why destroy them? Just paint them pink.

Posted by: SEP at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (I27d2)

519 514


Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids>>



Send Monica over?

Posted by: Ole Bill Clinton at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (KZI7g)

520 #NancyPelosiDanceMoves

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (sClIO)

521 Me! Me me! Me me me meee!!!!

Posted by: Barry Oh! at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (p8FXV)

522 Holy crap. Over 500 comments?

Where's the Ewok?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (UOM48)

523


Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids>>

Put Obama in charge of managing them.


Posted by: Buzzsaw




DINGDINGDINGDING!


You win One (1) internets.

Posted by: imp at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (UaxA0)

524 I'd just tell the Egyptians that each pyramid contains a Jew -- they'd be torn down in a week.

No explosives needed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (ccXZP)

525 are they gonna sell the naming rights to the pyramids?

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (8sdr0)

526 "Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding?"

Run out of suckers in your Rolodex...

Posted by: ViSalus Sales Rep #33572 at July 10, 2012 01:05 PM (sPO/s)

527 I have him in my control!

Posted by: AoSHQ Romneybot director at July 10, 2012 01:06 PM (KZI7g)

528
Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids>>

Turn them into public housing.

Posted by: Barky at July 10, 2012 01:06 PM (9TTOe)

529 Couric-Pelosi dance off.

Gentlemen, you may now retire to your bunks.

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 01:06 PM (rX1N2)

530 RE: Sidebar link: Krugman is an ego, not an intellect.

Posted by: nickless at July 10, 2012 01:06 PM (MMC8r)

531 The Egyptians of 4000 years ago were more advanced than the Muslims of today.

Think about that.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:07 PM (KXm42)

532 Pyramids? Let the joos sell them off piece by piece as kosher pet rocks.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 10, 2012 01:07 PM (KZI7g)

533 Guys, call me, we'll hook you up with something that can make those pesky artifacts go away.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at July 10, 2012 01:07 PM (044mj)

534
Couric-Pelosi dance off.

I could serve them both!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 10, 2012 01:07 PM (I27d2)

535 here is my idea for my new performance art gig:

I douse performance artists with urine.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 01:08 PM (b8TXQ)

536 Nothing I like gets distributed to Indiana

I cannot get Vernor's ginger ale here. That and blue moon ice cream which is, apparently, an extremely local flavor. I could get that via ye olde internets but I am not paying that much a half gallon of ice cream.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 01:08 PM (VtjlW)

537 Couric-Pelosi dance off.

I'd rather watch a homeless drunk epileptic wiggle across a city sidewalk.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 01:09 PM (9TTOe)

538 I douse performance artists with urine.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 01:08 PM (b8TXQ)


Does the urine come from a container or straight from the spicket?

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 01:09 PM (rX1N2)

539
O/T Link to audio of Gen. Alexanders speech (yesterday) to the AEI regarding Cybersecurity and American Power. Wolfowitz does intro. I see this as an issue that we could own. Obama has talked, such much, but again pushed forward no legislation. We need to snatch this issue away and move it forward (action, not motion!).
http://tinyurl.com/88dcjbq

Posted by: and irresolute at July 10, 2012 01:09 PM (Q492A)

540 Me! A gay, I touch myself.
Posted by: Barky at July 10, 2012 01:04 PM (9TTOe)
**
****
Run..I run long way for bung!!

Posted by: Barny Fwank at July 10, 2012 01:09 PM (eavT+)

541
No Ice Cream Machine in alextopia?

Posted by: King of all Custard at July 10, 2012 01:10 PM (I27d2)

542 RDBRUTUS,

if you're going to post in the sidebar, how about poating the main poat?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2012 01:10 PM (sClIO)

543 522 - Considering a run for Mayor of Scranton, free municipal whiskey instead of paychecks might get you elected

Posted by: Jean at July 10, 2012 01:10 PM (WkuV6)

544
Rather than blow up the pyramids.....if they're smart, they will just sell them off piece by piece.

"You can now own your very own piece of history!
Order now....Only $49.95 + shipping/handling"

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 01:10 PM (MbB0O)

545 Since their going to destroy the pyramids anyways. We should sneak a nuke into one that goes off when they set off their charges.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 10, 2012 01:11 PM (tf9Ne)

546 "Out of interest, what would be the most efficient way to blow up the pyramids, nukes notwithstanding?"

Tell the MB that the ancient pharohs funded them through a capitalistic system of moderate-interest loans supplied to the lowest bidders...

Or simply remind them that the ancient Egyptians lacked suitable reverence for Mo'.

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:11 PM (sPO/s)

547 Posted by: alexthechick SMOD 2012 at July 10, 2012 01:08 PM (VtjlW)

I made my wife so happy. We live in NC but her favorite childhood Ice Cream was Blue Moon. Hillcrest Ice Cream in WI, will ship it to you (For a fee). I is fabulous.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 10, 2012 01:12 PM (9TTOe)

548 Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)

Nice.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)
--------------------------------------------------------
Nice.....

*too obscure?*

Posted by: Jeffrey Jones at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (jucos)

549 Salafists, for when your Muslim problem goes full retard.

Publicly hand him a spork and wish him well. If he complains send him across the Gulf of Aqaba sp? on a raft of reeds. If he comes back shoot him.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (864A5)

550 For the record, this guy is not grappling with the budget, he is throwing a temper tantrum to avoid grappling with the budget.

Posted by: Drider at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (HaJD9)

551 "Disclosure forms reveal that Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a member of Congress from Florida, previously held funds with investments in Swiss banks, foreign drug companies, and the state bank of India. This revelation comes mere days after the Democratic chair attacked presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for holding money in Swiss bank accounts in the past."

Her spoken and written comments about the Democrats owning the economy really can't be replayed enough. Hell, just once would be nice.

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 01:14 PM (rX1N2)

552 BtW, from buckets. I am not a savage, after all.

And my exhibit is called Piss Poor Art.

Posted by: soothsayer, of the Wolverines at July 10, 2012 01:15 PM (xIRXC)

553 "For the record, this guy is not grappling with the budget, he is throwing a temper tantrum to avoid grappling with the budget. "

He suffers from Lackawanna Countybility.

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:15 PM (sPO/s)

554 This thread smells like a jock strap after August two-a-days.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:16 PM (KXm42)

555 Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+) Nice. Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB) -------------------------------------------------------- Nice..... *too obscure?*
Posted by: Jeffrey Jones at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (jucos)
***
****
Beuller...Beuller...

Posted by: dananjcon at July 10, 2012 01:16 PM (eavT+)

556 I demand to be entertained. Make with teh funny, Ace.

Shhh. It's only 1:15pm where he is. You might wake him.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 10, 2012 01:16 PM (SY2Kh)

557 In This Immortal by Zelazny, the main character has the Pyramids dismantled by human powered techniques and films it all. He then runs the film backwards to create The Building of the Pyramids.

(He's doing this as part of a plan to keep some aliens from buying Earth btw)

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 10, 2012 01:16 PM (ccXZP)

558 >>blue moon ice cream which is, apparently, an extremely local flavor.

Maybe regional; my grandparents used to get it in western Ohio. But I don't know what brand. My dad used to stock up on Vernors every trip back to Ohio, but now he can get it in Iowa somewhere.

Menards carries Sprecher sodas, but not their beer. Sigh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at July 10, 2012 01:17 PM (ZKzrr)

559 This thread is so old people are starting to go back on topic.

This will cause tear in spacetime.

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:18 PM (KXm42)

560
551 ..."...Debbie Wasserman Schultz,... previously held funds with investments in Swiss banks, foreign drug companies, and the state bank of India."

This is just...yummy.
I hope the RNC does an ad with this.

Posted by: wheatie at July 10, 2012 01:19 PM (MbB0O)

561 New thread bitches

Posted by: Burn the witch at July 10, 2012 01:20 PM (rX1N2)

562 Democrats..... ruin everything they touch.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 10, 2012 01:20 PM (DGIjM)

563 This thread smells like the one time Mrs. Reason cleaned out the refrigerator, found a small pot of northern beans 'n bacon that had been forgotten about for a couple months, and set the pan out on the back patio to "deal with later."

It got re-forgotten out there for another three or four days until I saw it, picked it up, noticed it was shoshing half-full with *something,* assumed it was dishwater, and proceeded to dump it out by the ligustrums...

Posted by: reason at July 10, 2012 01:20 PM (sPO/s)

564 This thread is so old people are starting to go back on topic. This will cause tear in spacetime.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:18 PM (KXm42)


Cease and desist, malefactors!

Posted by: Inspector Spacetime at July 10, 2012 01:22 PM (ggRof)

565 Saved!

Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2012 01:24 PM (KXm42)

566 work areas got weeds 8 feet tall and obviously haven't seen human boots
or a shovel in years, and they stretch on for 15 or 20 miles.


All kinds of going on, and everybody has a beak but,

http: //www.pspb.org/ water/media/ I99_webquest_v101.htm

The enviro surveys have to be redone at a lot of spots because they missed these. And its a full bore colorful acid into stream headwaters and metals into locals wells mess. So the remediation is big and unavoidable by current law.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2012 01:36 PM (864A5)

567 By the way, I never actually lived in Scranton. That's just campaign trail stuff, for the stump only, if you will (FTSO)> Barack calls it FaTSO for short.

God love him, he does a lot of it.

Posted by: J Biden VP & very smart individual at July 10, 2012 01:42 PM (4eNxd)

568 "The left's policies never ever work. So why do so many want to go that route even as they sit on a sinking ship?"

Because the Republicans will take away their rights to have sex anywhere, any time, with any thing and anyone. That is much more important than, oh say, an economic cataclysm...which could never happen here. Amirite?

Posted by: allyourbedsarebelongtous at July 10, 2012 02:00 PM (ROdby)

569 548
Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)



Nice.



Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)

--------------------------------------------------------

Nice.....



*too obscure?*

Posted by: Jeffrey Jones at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (jucos)

Not at all.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at July 10, 2012 02:20 PM (MMC8r)

570 569
548

Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)





Nice.





Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)


--------------------------------------------------------


Nice.....





*too obscure?*



Posted by: Jeffrey Jones at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (jucos)

Not at all.


Posted by: Michael Jackson at July 10, 2012 02:20 PM (MMC8r)

Now it's getting silly.

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at July 10, 2012 02:21 PM (MMC8r)

571 570
569

548


Posted by: Woody Allen at July 10, 2012 12:56 PM (eavT+)







Nice.







Posted by: Roman Polanski at July 10, 2012 12:58 PM (nEUpB)



--------------------------------------------------------



Nice.....







*too obscure?*





Posted by: Jeffrey Jones at July 10, 2012 01:13 PM (jucos)

Not at all.




Posted by: Michael Jackson at July 10, 2012 02:20 PM (MMC8r)

Now it's getting silly.


Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at July 10, 2012 02:21 PM (MMC8r)

Shuddup, phagz.

Posted by: Oscar Wilde at July 10, 2012 02:22 PM (MMC8r)

572 nice post Drew, excellent union-smackings.

Posted by: Shoey at July 10, 2012 02:30 PM (jdOk/)

573 I am an employee of (likely) the most conservative state in the union.
A few years back, one of our congressmen saw the looming fiscal disaster of the pension program and took steps to correct it. As we have no union presence here to speak of, a bill was proposed, the law was passed, and everything worked out how it was supposed to.
But the state employees took a hit. Our benefits were no longer as good as they once were.
Being the good conservative that I am, and coming recently from the private sector were things were much worse (although i was getting paid more), I shrugged and said to my disgruntled co-workers "If you are really that upset about it, find another job"
None of them did, and none of them have.
Point here, local government can restructure pension and other benifits in meaningful ways, still manage to pay their employees a fair wage, and not have most of the walk off the job over it.

Posted by: MrShad at July 10, 2012 02:31 PM (Xqfwb)

574 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 10, 2012 04:11 PM (Xb3hu)

575 Here, Here

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The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat