Left Continues Preemptive Spin

Check out Reason's compilation of temper-tantrum headlines:

"Why Media's Health Care Reform Coverage Was Even Worse Than You Thought"

"Health care reform trajectory won't be stopped by Supreme Court ruling"

"Insurers Seek to Soften Their Image, No Matter How Court Rules on Health Act"

"No Matter How the Court Rules, Healthcare Benefits Will Remain Key"

"Healthcare Futurist: Supreme Court Can't Stop Healthcare Reform"

"Obama could target Supreme Court if health-care law falls"

"The Supreme Court’s Lurch To The Right (CHARTS)"

"George Washington’s individual mandates"

"Health Care and the Supremes: Why the Right Has Already Won"

"Supreme Court is No Longer Part of the Solution"

"Are we headed toward another court-packing crisis?"

"Justice Scalia must resign"

Allah's Quotes of the Day from last night were especially good.

Gabe linked Tim Carney's great piece below; also worthy is Jonathan V. Last's.

When Democrats lose, however, they tend to place the blame a little higher. The Supreme Court is rigged. The election was stolen by Diebold voting machines. After John Kerry lost in 2004, Democrats snickered about an electoral map showing the “real America” being composed of the West Coast and Northeast. The rest of the map — the red states Bush carried — was dubbed “Jesusland.” The inference being that the real problem was with the American people.

All of which is why, facing the prospect of losing the Obamacare case, the left’s first instinct hasn’t been to blame a bad law. Or bad lawyering. Or even just bad luck. No, to the liberal mind there are no bad outcomes; only broken systems. (In the Washington Post, Jonathan Turley claimed the very possibility Obamacare might be struck down suggested we should rethink the structure of the high court. He proposes we start by installing 10 more justices.)

And so, later this week liberal Democrats will condemn the high court as a body no longer fit to adjudicate our nation’s laws. It will have to be reformed and remade before any American, anywhere, can sleep soundly.

We see this more and more, and without any shame-- When Democrats lose, their first impulse is to make it illegal for Republicans to win. They begin examining the ways in which "systems" failed to produce results they sought, and then "reform" those systems so that they can only produce liberal victories.

Obviously, this is antithetical to democracy and fair play. When a team in the NFL has a great running back, its rivals do not rush to change the rules to make running the ball illegal.

And yet that is what the Democrats keep doing, again and again.

And... The campaign against the "politicization" of the court continues. As Instapundit puts it-- Democrat Leaders to Supreme Court: If you don't vote our way, you're being political.

Posted by: Ace at 08:06 AM



Comments

1 Has there ever been a more ridiculous affair than this? They really are pathetic, aren't they?

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 28, 2012 08:08 AM (PH+2B)

2 I can't wait 'til those ignorant fuckheads completely lose their shit in November

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at June 28, 2012 08:09 AM (HqfLg)

3 Never rely on the Supreme Court. It is not your friend.

I think a ruling upholding Obamacare is going to happen. I hope I'm wrong, but it's a coin toss by a group with a heinous record.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2012 08:12 AM (BNuW6)

4 The hubris is astonishing. It certainly couldn't be that what they propose is unconstitutional/illegal*, it must be due to Republican/conservative machinations.

*Their intentions are pure, so it can't be unconstitutional/illegal. Everyone knows that good intentions are the test for constitutionality/legality.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - awake and going strong at June 28, 2012 08:14 AM (hLRSq)

5 The thing is, we let them change the rules. We need elected officials who have balls and defend the constitution like they are supposed to.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 28, 2012 08:14 AM (noqys)

6 Thank you for the roundup and commentary.

As usual the Democrats' reason for failing is because we are 'too stupid to know better.' Thanks for the sour persimmons brother, now go stuff it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2012 08:15 AM (ZHrEM)

7 He proposes we start by installing 10 more justices.


My response to that was we should install 50 justices appointed by the States (1/State) at ever how the State wants to appoint them. Take it away from Washington altogether.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 08:15 AM (YdQQY)

8 The Democrats have been rewriting the bill from the day it was passed in preparation for it being found unconstitutional.

It will be reintroduced by the next Democrat president or by Obama if he gets a second term.

Posted by: Knows the Democrats at June 28, 2012 08:17 AM (7+pP9)

9 Them are some sweet tears.

Posted by: Vegan Meatsack at June 28, 2012 08:18 AM (mxnUd)

10

and, Howard Dean, this morning on one of those crappy shows says, striking down the mandate is a WIN for Obama...

Scarborough says, neither obama or romney are working to fix all the countries problems... as if Romney has the capability atm, and as if he can read the crystal ball of what Romney would do.

These people really need a rubber room.

Posted by: uh huh at June 28, 2012 08:20 AM (HOOye)

11 I am happy you liked the movie and am impressed by the succinct summation of its plot you have provided. I will peruse your blog in the future for good information. Thanks!

Posted by: webbot at June 28, 2012 08:20 AM (HNn1q)

12
All I can say is this; thank God that there are nations in the Caribbean that are focusing investmenton medical tourism. Even if our side sorta, half-way wins today (which is the best case scenario in my opinion) we're still going to be on a slippery slope. Sooner than we imagine, we will have to leave the US to get good care, and we will have to pay cash to do it. Alas - demand will be so high that costs will go up and up, as people flee the Leftist dystopia we are even now creating.



There will be no effort to restore a free market in health care, and our state solution will be the worst one yet.The Euro scum have the evils of state run health care, but at least some of their evils (euthanizing the old)mitigate other evils (a shortage due to overconsumption). The English are the very worst, of course, and have nothing good in their system at all- but the continentals at least make some basic effort to be rational about it. Our state run system will take all the worst elements of the English and Canadian systems, yet retain no good systems of any kind. It will be disaster. It will be 3rd world.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2012 08:21 AM (xUM1Q)

13 "We see this more and more, and without any shame-- When Democrats lose, their first impulse is to make it illegal for Republicans to win. "

Same thing with warmanistas.

I will drink their tears if it's overturned. I WILL DRINK IT UP

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 28, 2012 08:21 AM (ePYQF)

14 @7, yes, that would be a better system.

It's nonsense to think the Supreme Court isn't political and hasn't always been political. Why the founding fathers thought a black robe rendered you above tyranny is beyond me.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2012 08:21 AM (R6G5I)

15 Eight-Oh-Six Effin' AM?? It really must be a big day for the Republic...

Posted by: Eagerly awaiting the mark of the beast, er Ace's comment registration at June 28, 2012 08:22 AM (wkR3c)

16 But yes I agree, we need to "replace" Obamacare with a number of free-market reforms. Stop hiding costs, stop impeding competition!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 28, 2012 08:22 AM (ePYQF)

17 And make it easier to get individual insurance.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 28, 2012 08:22 AM (ePYQF)

18 The reason I think this law will be upheld is that they didn't release it sooner. Even they know that if they threw the law out it would have stopped billions in useless spending. They didnt.

It's going to be upheld embrace the suck.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 08:22 AM (MpDjI)

19 Black robes are very slimming.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 08:25 AM (eavT+)

20 Why the founding fathers thought a black robe rendered you above tyranny is beyond me.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2012 08:21 AM (R6G5I)I think it helps to remember that the American Revolution came about before the Age of Ideology. In those days, the corruption was for personal gain. Now the corruption is for ideological gain. I'd rather vote for a conservative thief who raided the treasury rather than for the most honest and truthful Libtard.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2012 08:25 AM (xUM1Q)

21
The fact that this case rests in the Supremes' interpretation of the law sux. How about an amendment requiring law to be literal as written or left to states?

Interpretation gets all loosey goosey, being considered by individuals who are so much smarter than everyone else and need to tell the slobbering, writhing masses what, when, why and how to live and die.

Posted by: Justamom at June 28, 2012 08:26 AM (Sptt8)

22 The White House reportedly has TOTUS pre-loaded with speeches for 3 different Supreme Court outcomes. Pray that the wrong one gets loaded up, because we know President Ron Burgundy has no idea what he's reading off the 'prompter.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 28, 2012 08:26 AM (kjRhk)

23 They're on the brink of a repudiation of a scale not seen before. They're losing funding and institutional power, and are having their fundamental philosophy under serious scrutiny for the first time, and it's not looking good for them.

Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2012 08:26 AM (MMC8r)

24 Jonathan Turley claimed the very possibility Obamacare might be struck
down suggested we should rethink the structure of the high court. He
proposes we start by installing 10 more justices.


And we think we're the conservative ones. They tried exactly the same thing 80 years ago, and for exactly the same reasons. A foolish consistency and all that.

Posted by: pep at June 28, 2012 08:27 AM (YXmuI)

25 "CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS! How America's supreme court went out of control"

"Fellow Americans, I've spoken before about how the old ideas of selfish profit making business has failed for the last 100 years. Today I have to emphasize that the old system of a Constitutional Republic that we have now is utterly anti-American. Since the Congress and the Courts won't act, I will do the right thing and act. Today I have signed a number of Executive orders requiring all insurance carriers to provide free insurance to every citizen to be paid for by a new regulatory surcharge to all business transactions." .....Barack Obama 6/29/12

Posted by: Daybrother at June 28, 2012 08:27 AM (X3HIv)

26 Even they know that if they threw the law out it would have stopped billions in useless spending. They didnt.

It's going to be upheld embrace the suck.
Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 08:22 AM (MpDjI)With respect, I do not believe for one instant that the court gives a tinker's dam about spending one way or the other. They have saddled this country with countless absurdities, the cost of which is nearly incalculably large. They live in a bubble.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2012 08:27 AM (xUM1Q)

27

Remember, they had to make their case TO the SC. And, imho, they did not.

Posted by: remember at June 28, 2012 08:28 AM (HOOye)

28 The fact that this case rests in the Supremes' interpretation of the law sux. How about an amendment requiring law to be literal as written or left to states?

Interpretation gets all loosey goosey, being considered by individuals who are so much smarter than everyone else and need to tell the slobbering, writhing masses what, when, why and how to live and die.
Posted by: Justamom at June 28, 2012 08:26 AM (Sptt

Interpretation is necessary for any document. Otherwise it's simply a list of symbols in a particular order.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 28, 2012 08:28 AM (ePYQF)

29
Can you imagine how annoyed the petulant narcissist-in-chief is to have to prepare three speeches?

As if having to actually write them??!

Ha!

Posted by: Justamom at June 28, 2012 08:28 AM (Sptt8)

30 Dear God, Please don't abandon our country. Amen.

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (Ho2rs)

31 #18 As I said, if it is upheld then Obama will do his laps and will not be able to resist repeated spiking of the ball. (See: Obama bin Laden kill.) This will not win him friends amongst the almost 70% who oppose this bill, and those people will start thinking seriously about getting a guy in office who will waiver every state. That would be Romney.

People oppose this bill because of their own personal experiences with it. Premiums have gone up, not down. People are still unable to get insurance with pre-existing conditions. Doctors are taking early retirement. Already federal laws are imposing restrictions on procedures that were formerly routine. I have a huge collection of anecdotes about this stuff just from central Indiana.

So regardless of what the media says, people want this law to go away. So if it is upheld, it becomes a huge rallying point for November.

As far as the law being upheld setting precedent, well, we will have to figure something out, such as a constitutional amendment restricting the government's power to force purchases in the private market.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (GoIUi)

32 Today's 70 degree day and amazingly clear sky in the northeast is eerily reminiscent of a different morning....

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (HcYHR)

33 @25 he can't pull that trick. He doesn't have the funding.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (bZKG0)

34 I'm off to jury duty in about fifteen minutes. At the Daley Center.

Pray for me.

Posted by: Methos at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (6LvlL)

35 Even they know that if they threw the law out it would have stopped billions in useless spending. They didnt.


This is not their job.

Focus.

This is a huge bill for them to traverse.

This isn't about the "liberal" touch feelie, what they think, the implications, and what not. They are judging a bill to be lawful or not. Based on precedent, and the Constitution, etc.

I get that some judges are thought to "lean" one way or another, and will inject/project that into the summary/conclusion - but they have to prove their case.

Posted by: remember at June 28, 2012 08:31 AM (HOOye)

36
Ace is either up early or still up from last night. Of course, if he stayed up all night, he would have been shitting posts and tweets like he had chugged a gallon of Mexican tap water.

Does ace own an alarm clock? I don't want to believe it but I think he actually woke up early.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 08:32 AM (oihrP)

37 @31: My favorite suggestion is that if the mandate's upheld, the GOP needs to pass a mandate requiring everyone to buy a gun, in order to force libs to embrace their suck.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 28, 2012 08:32 AM (kjRhk)

38 Oh, yes. Only the Democrats know the True Way, The Righteous Way, The Smug, Al Gore Way, The Let's Feed Them Shit Then Blame The Other Side Way, etc............

Posted by: Case at June 28, 2012 08:32 AM (gyQY/)

39 Constitutional concerns aside...no really, thethree basic proffered pillars of The Thing were lower premiums, lower healthcare costs, and lower deficits.

NONE of the three stand up to any kind of rational analysis--even if rosy economic scenarios for the next decade are used. And that ain't Antonin Scalia's fault.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2012 08:33 AM (B+qrE)

40 #37 Precedent! Switzerland requires all adult males to own a firearm! Use that international law precedent they think is so swell! HA!

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 28, 2012 08:34 AM (GoIUi)

41 If it is overturned my first stop will either be politico or the washingtonpost comment sections, to drink in the sweet nectar of their sorrow.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 08:35 AM (MpDjI)

42 32 Today's 70 degree day and amazingly clear sky in the northeast is eerily reminiscent of a different morning....
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 08:29 AM (HcYHR)
**
***
I have the same thought on days like this as well...it sucks.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 08:35 AM (eavT+)

43 To save the Republic or not to save the Republic. MUAHAHHAHHAAHAH

Posted by: King Kennedy at June 28, 2012 08:36 AM (HcYHR)

44 The Supreme Court’s Lurch To The Right

ha, ha, ha. Yes, yes. The boy and the wise latina lurched it 'right'. Thanks for the laughs this morning. DemTear Margaritas anyone?

Posted by: dogfish at June 28, 2012 08:36 AM (N2yhW)

45 They're losing funding and institutional power, and are having their fundamental philosophy under serious scrutiny for the first time, and it's not looking good for them.Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2012 08:26 AM (MMC8r)Funding maybe,but they already have a solid lock on all the institutions that matter except the military. We may enjoy a few wins now and then, but every day thereis a vast army ofLibtards at work to turn your kids against you. And we pay them to do it.
In the end, they are going to be allowed to deprive everyone of the truth.This is because we refuse to do the ugly things necessary to stop them.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2012 08:37 AM (xUM1Q)

46 In the end, you still have me.

Posted by: President Kool Kat at June 28, 2012 08:37 AM (/ZZCn)

47
This isn't about the "liberal" touch feelie, what they think, the implications, and what not.

"Feelings" seem to creep into Supreme Court rulings all of the time nowadays.

Posted by: Arizona SB 1070 at June 28, 2012 08:37 AM (7+pP9)

48 I have the same thought on days like this as well...it sucks.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 08:35 AM (eavT+)


I figured I wasn't the only one.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 08:37 AM (HcYHR)

49 41 If it is overturned my first stop will either be politico or the washingtonpost comment sections, to drink in the sweet nectar of their sorrow.
Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 08:35 AM (MpDjI)
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I think it will be the first time I actually have a drink, during the day, on a week day. (yeah, I'm not a big drinker)

Posted by: cheers or not? at June 28, 2012 08:38 AM (HOOye)

50 Feeeeelings... nothing more than... feeeeeeelings.......

Posted by: King Kennedy at June 28, 2012 08:38 AM (HcYHR)

51 32, 42...

before that happened...i was standing at the bus stop with the other moms and we were all commenting at how perfect the weather was.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at June 28, 2012 08:39 AM (Ho2rs)

52 I think it will be the first time I actually have a drink, during the day, on a week day. (yeah, I'm not a big drinker)
Posted by: cheers or not?


I'm drunk now.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 28, 2012 08:39 AM (X3HIv)

53


#scotus

Posted by: cheers or not? at June 28, 2012 08:40 AM (HOOye)

54 Wow.. the head Ewok is up early.. getting the skulls all prepped with Sterno, no doubt!

I'm thinking flaming pudding shots will be the order of the day for me!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2012 08:40 AM (UTq/I)

55 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 08:40 AM (nUH8H)

56 So, what cheese goes best with the sweet, sweet wine of Liberal Tears?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 08:40 AM (nUH8H)

57 >>striking down the mandate is a WIN for Obama...

Because then it gives him a mandate to make another mandate!!1!

Posted by: MFM at June 28, 2012 08:42 AM (SUKHu)

58 I'm usually wrong. That's what makes me nervous about today's decision.

Posted by: Coventional Wisdom at June 28, 2012 08:42 AM (4LpXf)

59 No one listens to me.

Posted by: Common Sense at June 28, 2012 08:43 AM (X3HIv)

60 Scotus live blog is up.

www.scotusblog.com

I'm guessing they're gonna get over 200,000 people on today.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 08:43 AM (HcYHR)

61 Herpes vs. ObamaCare

All even at 43%!!!!

SUCK IT, WINGNUTS!

Posted by: Gergie at June 28, 2012 08:43 AM (MMC8r)

62 Is FOX news off the air for anyone else?

Kind of odd that we can't get it in our area.

Posted by: Drider at June 28, 2012 08:44 AM (HaJD9)

63 Presuming it is overturned, and I know that's presumptuous, I want a little cherry on the sundae in a big run up of the Dow right after the announcement. Even if illusory, the gains would be a good sign of what the biz/investment community thought of O-Care.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 28, 2012 08:44 AM (HethX)

64 So, what cheese goes best with the sweet, sweet wine of Liberal Tears?

Considering the raised nostrils and vapors...and the subject legislation:

Velveeta.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2012 08:44 AM (B+qrE)

65 >>I have the same thought on days like this as well...it sucks.

Aw. I remember how achingly beautiful that morning was.

Hang in there, guys. Either way the decision goes...November is coming.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 28, 2012 08:45 AM (SUKHu)

66 Do you think he is actually practicing each of the three speeches?

Naw, he doesn't practice them. Just stands before the tele, and lets loose all the wonderfulness. The wonderfulness that is him, his voice, his look, his presence, his wisdom, his eloquency, his stunning clusterfuckedness.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 28, 2012 08:46 AM (PH+2B)

67 I had two dreams last night...in one the law was struck down 9-0, and in the other it was struck down 12-3.

So, chillaxe...have your pudding at the ready...we're golden.





There will be blood.

Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2012 08:46 AM (4kwMn)

68 And make it easier to get individual insurance.

Make it easier.... how?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 08:46 AM (nUH8H)

69 It seems most "experts"think that the mandate will be struck down and most of the rest of the law will be upheld. I therefore propose to strike down all of the law with the exception of the mandate.

Posted by: Witty contrarian at June 28, 2012 08:46 AM (4LpXf)

70 Lost in all of this vitriol is the real problem that when we are borrowing 40 cents of every dollar, can the country afford anything new ?

The days of stealing money from Social Security are over, the world is a more competitive place, and the days of the US supplying most of the world (i.e. post WWII 50's) are over. The Democrats are still in spend mode when we are already deep in debt. Worse off, eventually, perhaps already, the government borrowing with the FED's cheap money will undermine pensions of the retired.

Bottom line: we have to spend less

Posted by: Patrick Kennedy at June 28, 2012 08:46 AM (e8kgV)

71 I have to leave the house right at 10 eastern/9 central!

I thought about having my son reading Twitter while I'm driving, but I think we need to get where we are going before I hear...either way.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 28, 2012 08:47 AM (SUKHu)

72 Latest poll of voting age adults in Florida: Obama 47% vs Genital Herpes 52%.

Posted by: Common Sense at June 28, 2012 08:47 AM (X3HIv)

73

"For all the lectures lately about the Supreme Court and judicial activism, the liberal scolds were silent on this week's 5-4 decision banning mandatory life-without-parole prison sentences for juvenile murderers. Yet this legislative command in the guise of a legal decision overturns the criminal laws of 28 states and the federal government."

...

"Ruling for the liberal bloc joined by swing voter Justice Anthony Kennedy, Justice Elena Kagan's opinion is as rich in sociology as it is deficient in any coherent legal principle other than the Justices' personal sympathies. She writes that children are different from adults and therefore when they commit crimes they can only be disciplined according to the "evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society," quoting an oft-abused 1958 precedent."

...

"In his dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts emphasizes that teenagers convicted of murder raise "grave and challenging questions of morality and social policy. Our role, however, is to apply the law, not to answer such questions" and read "our own subjective values or beliefs" into the Constitution."

...

"Such a consensus exists here, but it is not to the majority's taste. So, Chief Justice Roberts continues, "the Court's opinion suggests that it is merely a way station on the path to further judicial displacement of the legislative role in prescribing appropriate punishment for crime. . . . This process has no discernible end point—or at least none consistent with our Nation's legal traditions.""

yep

wsj/oped's page

Posted by: cheers or not? at June 28, 2012 08:48 AM (HOOye)

74 Three speeches, riiiiight. Such BS.
He KNOWS already.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at June 28, 2012 08:48 AM (SCcgT)

75 uggh. Nervous as a long tail cat in a rocking chair factory.

However, I do find a glimmer of hope in the lefty preemptive spin.

Posted by: willy at June 28, 2012 08:50 AM (kUCQ4)

76 51 32, 42...

before that happened...i was standing at the bus stop with the other moms and we were all commenting at how perfect the weather was.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at June 28, 2012 08:39 AM (Ho2rs)
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Same thoughts combined with a sick, sinking feeling in my stomach. This ruling is a game changer and I don't think it hyperbole to say that the fate of this nation hangs in the balance.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 08:50 AM (jucos)

77 Witching hour approaches...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Jgz74a9Gs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Something is going to get chopped off...for one side or the other. Fight's on.

Posted by: A. at June 28, 2012 08:50 AM (Jyqv3)

78 And lest we forget, the other big show today is the House vote, and the act the CBC will put on, doing their march-off-the-floor thing, as if it is that bridge in Selma or wherever, all over again.


Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 28, 2012 08:50 AM (PH+2B)

79 >>>Ace is either up early or still up from last night. Of course, if he stayed up all night, he would have been shitting posts and tweets like he had chugged a gallon of Mexican tap water.

Up all night. At 5:45 I gave up trying to sleep.

As for posting all night -- nah, I don't see any point, and plus, the ONT is supposed to be the top thread, unless there's new news.

I did "shit out" some Movie Theme Trivia questions in the sidebar.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 08:50 AM (aw5Tx)

80 The rest of the map — the red states Bush carried — was dubbed
“Jesusland.” The inference being that the real problem was with the
American people.

Left blames Jesus.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 08:51 AM (BAnPT)

81 Even if this falls, we need to ride Mittens HARD to get free-market reforms enacted for healthcare.

Then ride him hard to CUT SPENDING.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 28, 2012 08:51 AM (ePYQF)

82 I did keep checking for the Leak That Never Came.

Since there was no leak, I assume that means my speculation about a tip-off was wrong, ergo my assumptions that this was pre-spin by a tipped-off WH was wrong.

Although Schumer is right now talking up keeping "the good parts" of ObamaCare.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 08:52 AM (aw5Tx)

83 I can see a day when anybody with a 20+ year sentence will be executed as a cost saving measure.

Posted by: Patrick Kennedy at June 28, 2012 08:52 AM (e8kgV)

84 Okay, I tried to post a prediction that Twitter would crash at 9:01 and "got a service not available" message from this blog.

Obviously, Ace's early appearance has frightened the hamsters.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 28, 2012 08:52 AM (SUKHu)

85 CBC will put on, doing their march-off-the-floor thing

LET IT BE.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 08:52 AM (BAnPT)

86 Left blames Jesus.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 08:51 AM (BAnPT)

But they'll be more than happy to say Jesus was socialists.

Posted by: cajun carrot at June 28, 2012 08:53 AM (UZQM8)

87 Then ride him hard to CUT SPENDING.

It's not going to happen. The GOP is always going to cut spending next year.

Posted by: Scobface at June 28, 2012 08:53 AM (IoNBC)

88 I will be rising when the decision is announced. It will not matter what the court decides, I will go up just because there has been a decision. Of course, my gains will be short lived and my downward course will be resumed.

Posted by: Dow Jones Industrial Average at June 28, 2012 08:54 AM (4LpXf)

89
I can see a day when anybody with a 20+ year sentence will be executed as a cost saving measure.



Working on it.

Posted by: Judge Dredd at June 28, 2012 08:54 AM (GQ8sn)

90 OK The stock market opens in 36 minutes

How do we play this ?

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at June 28, 2012 08:54 AM (e8kgV)

91 btw I should be getting a call from the steps of the supreme court, so I should have the basics of it fast. As fast as SCOTUSblog.

But then, the people actually hearing or reading the ruling often do not know what it means.

You really need lawyers there, to speed read the holding. Reporters never know what the fuck the holding means. They just get stuck on very minor verbiage and can't find the "nut graf."



Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 08:55 AM (aw5Tx)

92
You know, screw the liberals. They got their fancy precident screwing happy time with Roe v. Wade, you haven't heard of anyone trying to pack the courts with 10 extra justices to fix that? Hell even talk about nominating justices who would overturn it is fairly muted in higher politics.
I don't like it, but I also recognize the only way it's gonna get fixed is with a damned constitutional amdendment.
Why can't libs see the same thing if Healthcare is overturned? Sure it sucks for them, they're perfectly free to amend the constitution (however unlikely that is.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 08:55 AM (22rSN)

93
For the last half hour, on my cable,FOX NEWS has been blocked out - I can get CNN, MSNBC and the rest.
DH used to joke everytime our cable went haywire saying "Obama turned it off again" - now I wonder if it is not just a joke.

Posted by: lan sing at June 28, 2012 08:55 AM (9/NoY)

94
@79

Thank goodness. I'm not ready to have to alter ALL my preconceived notions in one day. I'm tense enough as it is - I'll either be drinking fine bourbon or snorting bath salts, depending on the outcome on the next hour.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 08:55 AM (oihrP)

95 Although Schumer is right now talking up keeping "the good parts" of ObamaCare.
--
John Stossel addressed that happening ...
Why Discrimination [not prejudice] is Good
"I'm Afraid"

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 08:55 AM (BAnPT)

96 >>i was standing at the bus stop with the other moms and we were all commenting at how perfect the weather was.....

So, nothing at all like this morning.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, forcing cheerfulness at June 28, 2012 08:56 AM (/kI1Q)

97 Heh...Drudge hasa few links to CNSnews; recalling some of the HC debate's greatest lefty quotes.
**
Seriously? SERIOUSLY??

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 08:56 AM (eavT+)

98 #93 Ian sing.I asked the same thing up above.Very strange.

Posted by: Drider at June 28, 2012 08:56 AM (HaJD9)

99 I'm going to tape MSNBC. If the entire law is overturned Chris Matthews will cry on air.

Posted by: liontoot at June 28, 2012 08:56 AM (xk0Xg)

100 I think it's going to be upheld. They are talking about everything but the mandate. This shit stain will be upheld an they will do their best to talk about everything but the loss of our freedom. It will just be about all the "free" shit we now get.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 08:56 AM (MpDjI)

101 Prelude to a bloodletting.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (caAEA)

102 Hey DJIA, I'll be rising when the decision comes out too. My balls however will be lowering. Right into some glorious pudding cups.

Posted by: Ewok penis at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (4LpXf)

103 Democrats in Congress essentially ignored plausible constitutional
objections to the ACA’s individual mandate, and therefore have only
themselves to blame if the law is declared unconstitutional.

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (e8kgV)

104 Blue horseshoe loves BlueStar.

Posted by: Bud Fox at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (aw5Tx)

105 Blue Horseshoe loves Anacott Steel.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (KF/Jh)

106 btw I should be getting a call from the steps of the supreme court, so I should have the basics of it fast.
****

Praying for flaming skulls and pudding..lots of pudding...

Posted by: willy at June 28, 2012 08:57 AM (kUCQ4)

107

It's very hot in certain areas of the country.

If mandate is struck down - or, better yet, the entire bill (which I doubt), the heat will domino the liberal exploding heads.

The streets won't be safe.

Posted by: cheers or not? at June 28, 2012 08:58 AM (HOOye)

108 "SCOTUS is no longer part of the solution"

Pay close attention to 6-10 in here:
http://jim.com/hayek.htm

Posted by: DavidM at June 28, 2012 08:58 AM (R/e5b)

109 Goddammitt.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 08:58 AM (KF/Jh)

110 When a team in the NFL has a great running back, its rivals do not rush to change the rules to make running the ball illegal.

No, the other teams just cheat. *cough*fuckyoubelichick*cough*

It's the whole Left thinks we are evil, we think the Left is wrong. I'm back to being utterly weary about even trying to fight this anymore. Fine. Fine. I'm a windowlicking mouthbreather because I believe that I am in charge of my life and that the government needs to leave me the fuck alone. Okay. Fine.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 28, 2012 08:58 AM (VtjlW)

111 Although Schumer is right now talking up keeping "the good parts" of ObamaCare.

Everyone has been. It's like a disease or something. If only there were someone who was discussing exactly why those "good parts" aren't actually good, instead of just asserting that they aren't.

If only I knew such a person...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 08:58 AM (nUH8H)

112 Test

Posted by: Killerdog at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (CNua6)

113 Lord, I'm nervous.Trying not to be an Eeyore like Allahpundit at Tepid air...

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (ZHge+)

114
Ace,
Slightly off topic, but are you saving all your tweeting for this moment? You haven't said "boo" in something like 10 days.

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (22rSN)

115 dang -- I'm turning on Fox News now. I wonder if it'll make me puke.

Posted by: Nervous Nellie at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (7+pP9)

116 House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. John
Conyers (D-Mich.) said the "good and welfare clause"
gives Congress the authority to require individuals to buy health
insurance as mandated in the health care bill.[\i]

http://tinyurl.com/7ls53ka

Quality representation worthy of a great nation. That's what we got all right.

Posted by: Cicero at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (6j180)

117 aaaaccch

Posted by: Cicero at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (6j180)

118 @65: Hang in there guys. Either way the decision goes. . .November is coming.

Hard to be serene when you know nearly 50% of the people in this country are begging for the chains of slavery just to spite the other half, Mama. But I'll try. I've got a bottle of Macallan and an Opus X cigar ready - for consolation if we lose, to add to my pudding cups if we win.

Posted by: Mary Poppins at June 28, 2012 08:59 AM (zF6Iw)

119 If there ever was a day to get up early..

Posted by: Ben at June 28, 2012 09:00 AM (C2Y4l)

120
Ace is up with the poultry. I understand.
Anyway, as I like to say. Fuck the leftards. Fuck them high, fuck them low. Fuck them coming, fuck them going. Fuck them left, fuck them right. Fuck them darkly and in the light. Fuck the leftards with delight.

Posted by: maddogg at June 28, 2012 09:00 AM (OlN4e)

121 I'm relaxing by watching Sharapova and Pironkova play.

Well, not 'relaxing', per se.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (KF/Jh)

122
@AllenG,
You mean "smart" remember "Good" for the LIV is "Bread and Circuses!"

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (22rSN)

123
Drider - FOX is back on. I'm on the West Coast of FL -

Posted by: lan sing at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (9/NoY)

124 STOOPID WINGERS, ALWAYS ROOTING FOR THEIR WORST INTERESTS.

Posted by: KAYE IN MAINE at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (eavT+)

125 120

Ace is up with the poultry. I understand.
Anyway, as I like to
say. Fuck the leftards. Fuck them high, fuck them low. Fuck them coming,
fuck them going. Fuck them left, fuck them right. Fuck them darkly and
in the light. Fuck the leftards with delight.

Posted by: maddogg at June 28, 2012 09:00 AM (OlN4e)

Sheer poetry...

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (ZHge+)

126 "We have to pass the law in order to find out what's in it."

With that kind of mindset, who needs a Supreme Court anyway?

Posted by: mrp at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (HjPtV)

127
You really need lawyers there, to speed read the holding. Reporters never know what the fuck the holding means. They just get stuck on very minor verbiage and can't find the "nut graf."<<<<

Then it's fortunate that we have you, a lawyer, ready to assist us.

An anonymous,bleary-eyed, insomniac lawyer hopped up on cheap vodka and Mr. Pibb whose office is next to a titty bar.

Hey, did you handle my divorce? You suck.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (oihrP)

128 The rarely-cited "Good and Plenty Clause" ensures all Americans access to a wide range of candies and soft drinks while attending the theater.

Posted by: Cicero at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (6j180)

129 But they'll be more than happy to say Jesus was socialist.

Posted by: cajun carrot

Irony, Marx blaming God; as good as Mexican President General Santana using the State to condemn Mexicans to perpetual peon status because of the Catholic Church's fault. Then the subsequent generation's government literally persecuting Catholicism with a genocidal purge.

Denounce faith or die, bitter clinger.
Denounce the Constitution or die, American US citizen.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (BAnPT)

130 If this is upheld I will be smoking and drinking myself to an early grave. Might as well, you all will be paying for it.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (MpDjI)

131 If it is struck down in its entirety the Left will still never understand how it could be unconstitutional anymore than they understand the concept of limited government.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (X3HIv)

132 Obamacare is a lot like when they cure the sickness but kill the patient.

We cured you, too bad you are now dead.

Liberals really are strange creatures.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (CNua6)

133 So they're going to debride the ACA?

Posted by: Nervous Nellie at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (7+pP9)

134 Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (22rSN)

Obviously I need my coffee. I'm sure that's supposed to make sense, but my brain literally refuses to understand.

LIV?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 09:03 AM (nUH8H)

135 >>>Slightly off topic, but are you saving all your tweeting for this moment? You haven't said "boo" in something like 10 days

I might be done with twitter, except for some occasional stuff.

My main use of it is to call out the media, because they seem to be more aware of Tweets than blog posts.

But I've always been twitter-skeptical, and am even less enamored of it with it permitting wolfpacks of diagnosable lunatics to go after Liberty Chick and so on.

Maniacs gravitate towards it. I just can't deal with the negative energy. I know that sounds gay but seriously, who the fuck needs it?

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 09:04 AM (aw5Tx)

136 Holder Contempt resolution

http://www.scribd.com/doc/98528638/Resolution-BILLS-112-HRes706RH

Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 28, 2012 09:04 AM (e8kgV)

137 Morning EOJ. I hope things are better at work.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 28, 2012 09:04 AM (caAEA)

138 It is obvious the USSC did not read the entire law either. Scalia made that clear at questions, IIRC. How can they uphold it if they don't read the entire law?

The same question doesn't apply the other way if you strike down the mandate and then toss the rest out due to severability.

Perhaps the left wing of the court can't square that circle and the wise latina and the Bush I squish vote to strike down while simultaneously jabbing a pencil in their eye.




Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2012 09:04 AM (4kwMn)

139 C-SPAN live broadcast the US Government v. State of Arizona SCOTUS proceeding.

What of the SCOTUS on ObamaCare? Did Obama send a US attorney to argue his case before the SCOTUS? Or was everything here based upon what was already written, Constitution v. ObamaCare Law, no more arguments?

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:04 AM (BAnPT)

140


eat.the.breakfast.before.the.alcohol...


Posted by: cheers or not? at June 28, 2012 09:05 AM (HOOye)

141 Presidents for $1000...A stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Alex Trebek at June 28, 2012 09:05 AM (tWWgb)

142 I'm relaxing by watching Sharapova and Pironkova play.

Well, not 'relaxing', per se.


Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 09:01 AM (KF/Jh)



The tennis authorities are trying to ban "loud grunting" on the court.
What?!?! That's half the reason morons tune in to watch hawt, sweaty, fit chicks make noises they know they'll never hear in person.

Posted by: EC at June 28, 2012 09:05 AM (GQ8sn)

143 >>Hard to be serene when you know nearly 50% of the people in this
country are begging for the chains of slavery just to spite the other
half, Mama

You know, I really don't mind if they want to enslave themselves. But I really, really resent them demanding I be shackled as well.

Crab mentality. They don't have much, so by God the rest of shouldn't be allowed to have anything, either.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, forcing cheerfulness at June 28, 2012 09:05 AM (/kI1Q)

144 My prediction is this is upheld and they push the mandate decision off until 2015 until someone pays the penalty.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 09:06 AM (MpDjI)

145 Did Obama send a US attorney to argue his case before the SCOTUS?

Yes, the lawyer representing the Government was the Solicitor General.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 09:06 AM (nUH8H)

146 "I just can't deal with the negative energy."

Sgt. Oddball, g'morning.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (BAnPT)

147 I've been in a coma for quite some time. Today, the Court will decide whether to pull the plug on me, or keep me on life support until I recover.

Posted by: U.S. Constitution at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (4LpXf)

148 ...The rest of the map — the red states Bush carried — was dubbed “Jesusland.” The inference being that the real problem was with the American people....
Or, they just called it like they REALLY think it- they labelled it "Dumbfuckistan." That is what the liberal elites really think of the flyover states...

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (z1C58)

149 The tennis authorities are trying to ban "loud grunting" on the court.
What?!?!
That's half the reason morons tune in to watch hawt, sweaty, fit chicks make noises they know they'll never hear in person.


It's a very disturbing turn of events.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (KF/Jh)

150 145 Allen, was it broadcast?

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (BAnPT)

151 Obamacare is a lot like when they cure the sickness but kill the patient.



We cured you, too bad you are now dead.



Liberals really are strange creatures.

Posted by: Killerdog at June 28, 2012 09:02 AM (CNua6)

It's not that strange when you realize how much money they stand to make for themselves and their cronies. Plus they're exempt from the law.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (HcYHR)

152 I do not see any logical way that this POS doesn't go down, but in the absurd case that it it upheld, it becomes clear that elections are not enough to restore America to its status as a republic.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 28, 2012 09:07 AM (HLFzM)

153 No mention of racism in any of those headlines. Don't they know that's the reason for everything?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (1Jaio)

154 I think this is the best post I've ever read on here.

Posted by: The LT at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (eA+RM)

155 An anonymous,bleary-eyed, insomniac lawyer hopped up on cheap vodka and Mr. Pibb whose office is next to a titty bar.

Oh noes! My lair has been discovered!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (VtjlW)

156 >>I just can't deal with the negative energy. I know that sounds gay but seriously, who the fuck needs it?

Makes sense to me. I go there to read, but have no interest "debating" mean nasty people yelling "racist" while making racist comments about Michelle Malking.

But I do enjoy the short bursts of snark from people like you, Iowahawk, Lileks, etc.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (SUKHu)

157 One hour for the tears to start.


My popcorn is sitting next to the microwave!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (KZI7g)

158 Sources who could not be named because they were not authorized to speak on the matter indicated that Obama is a SCOAMF

Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 28, 2012 09:08 AM (e8kgV)

159 37

I like the idea of using the All-Powerful Commerce Clause to end abortion. Think about it 1) Commerce requires customers, 2) Customers are people, 3) we need more people, 4) ergo Congress can regulate abortion by way of the Commerce Clause. Ban abortions! It's for teh Commerce!

If that doesn't work, then a fund to subsidize adoption and adopted children, paid for by a modest tax on abortions. I think we start at the cost of raising a child which is north of $250k and negotiate down to $50k. Commerce again, bitches!

Posted by: J. Random Dude at June 28, 2012 09:09 AM (72afg)

160 They can't add 10 justices to that bench. It might tip over.

Posted by: Hank Johnson (D) at June 28, 2012 09:09 AM (HcYHR)

161 I said earlier this morning that SCOTUSblog would have over 100K viewers. They are already reporting over 70K and say they expect 250K.

BTW, they say they have 7 people involved with the live blog. 4 of them lawyers

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 09:10 AM (YdQQY)

162 @150 I don't remember. I know we got transcripts really quickly (we've been citing them here and there for the last couple days, but we had them really quick after oral arguments). I don't remember if cameras were allowed in, or not.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 09:10 AM (nUH8H)

163 >>>You really need lawyers there, to speed read the holding. Reporters
never know what the fuck the holding means. They just get stuck on very
minor verbiage and can't find the "nut graf."


Yes, I remember just this thing happening with Bush v. Gore. For 15 minutes it seems like fuckin' NOBODY could figure out what it was holding because nobody seemed to understand how to read a SCOTUS opinion.

AAAAHHHHH I'M GOING CRAZY WITH ANTICIPATION

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 28, 2012 09:10 AM (ogWsV)

164 I AM THE LAW!

Posted by: The Commerce Clause at June 28, 2012 09:11 AM (hrAg/)

165 For debate: The Left echo chamber is laying the groundwork to justify a coup d'etat against the elected and Constitutional governing framework of the United States. Discuss.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 28, 2012 09:11 AM (GBXon)

166 >>The rarely-cited "Good and Plenty Clause" ensures all Americans access
to a wide range of candies and soft drinks while attending the theater.

Soft drinks? Not on my watch!

Posted by: Untergau Bloomberg at June 28, 2012 09:11 AM (/kI1Q)

167 WOOT -- GREAT JOB NUMBERS: 386,000

Posted by: Nervous Nellie at June 28, 2012 09:11 AM (7+pP9)

168 Presidents for $1000...A stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Alex Trebek at June 28, 2012 09:05 AM (tWWgb)

Oh, I'm sorry, I read the $10 answer by mistake.

Posted by: Alex Trebek too at June 28, 2012 09:12 AM (N2yhW)

169 29


Can you imagine how annoyed the petulant narcissist-in-chief is to have to prepare three speeches?



As if having to actually write them??!




Ha!

Posted by: Justamom at June 28, 2012 08:28 AM (Sptt

It's no problem, I just check a box.

Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry, The One Who Eats Dogs at June 28, 2012 09:12 AM (KZI7g)

170 The Wall Street Journal notes President Obama "has been doing more than sitting back and waiting" for the Supreme Court's health care decision. He has "three separate speeches prepared in anticipation of the ruling on his signature legislative achievement."

"One of the speeches addresses a complete overturn of the law, while another is crafted as if the court strikes down the law's individual mandate but upholds other provisions. The third speech, for if the court upholds the entire law, is more celebratory, according to this person."

Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 28, 2012 09:12 AM (e8kgV)

171 "negative energy"

twitter got the Republican thumbs up when Pelosi turned out the lights and locked the House doors, leaving Congressmen in the halls spreading the word on twitter, encouraging it as the latest best thing evah

As with most communication or travel today, hijacked and perverted by the insane to incriminate the sane, "Because I Could".

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:12 AM (BAnPT)

172 The TOTUS is ready

Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 28, 2012 09:12 AM (e8kgV)

173
What is this "tweeting" you speak of? That alone sounds gay enough. To admit to "tweeting" is tantamount to admitting to a willingness, even a desire, for buttsex.

Posted by: maddogg at June 28, 2012 09:13 AM (OlN4e)

174 Oh, and when's Holder's contempt vote?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 28, 2012 09:13 AM (/kI1Q)

175 >>That's half the reason morons tune in to watch hawt, sweaty, fit chicks make noises they know they'll never hear in person.

Somebody yesterday was making really bizzare squeaking grunting noises. Kids didn't believe me when I said it was coming from one of the players.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 28, 2012 09:14 AM (SUKHu)

176 >>>Yes, I remember just this thing happening with Bush v. Gore. For 15 minutes it seems like fuckin' NOBODY could figure out what it was holding because nobody seemed to understand how to read a SCOTUS opinion.


that's what I'm thinking of. They were like monkeys looking at the monolith at the beginning of 2001: A Space Odessey.

And the decision was pretty plain on a quick skim. It was not hard to parse.

But I remember Chip Reid, I think, seizing on meaningless gibberish and repeating it, and saying he thought it meant Gore won.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 09:14 AM (aw5Tx)

177
@ Joffen,

Shitcanned the lead manager yesterday and brought in a new one. Met with the principals yesterday and after I charted for them this guy's "performance" over the last 18 months (an unchecked slide from 50% of market share to 20%), they were wishing they fired him a year ago.

I expect more firings and resignations this week, as they have all been told that accountability is back in style.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 09:15 AM (oihrP)

178 Off to work! I'll pick you guys back up just about the time the decision comes down.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2012 09:15 AM (UTq/I)

179 162 C-SPAN live radio did the AZ SCOTUS arguments, with the monitor illustrating with photo/name per speaker.

C-SPAN live camera media were outside the building, noting the goings on out there...

Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2012 09:15 AM (BAnPT)

180 EoJ, what is your line of work if I may ask?

Sales? Marketing? Pimping? All of the above?

Posted by: EC at June 28, 2012 09:16 AM (GQ8sn)

181 We could use some pics of EoJ's Moldavian coworker with the slutty makeup while we wait.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 28, 2012 09:17 AM (KF/Jh)

182 I was under the impression that EOJ was a manager of Old Whores.

Posted by: maddogg at June 28, 2012 09:18 AM (OlN4e)

183
@AllenG,
LIV=Low Info Voters
Longer answer is: They see "Good" for them as things that can be painted as "benefiting them" especially at "little cost."
And before you go into a tirade about cost increases (that I agree with) remember for most of these people Insurance is just a magic box that produces care, so they are capable of incredible cognitive dissonance when it comes to "prices increasings" vs. "but the law made this 'free'"

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 09:18 AM (22rSN)

184 Google announced yesterday that they will no longer include guns, ammunition or accessories in Google Shopping results.
Once again proving that the Liberal dictum is if you say something doesn't exist the rubes will believe it because they are smart and flyover Country is stupid; and also shut up that's why.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 28, 2012 09:18 AM (X3HIv)

185 My Twitter enthusiasms have waned as well. Its just anothermeans of getting spammed and mined forpersonal info. Its too clusterfucked for meaningfull exchanges.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 09:20 AM (eavT+)

186

According to the media, I should be massing with my fellow
Tea Partiers so that I can riot in the streets when Obamacare is upheld. You know how racist, violent and unruly we
can get when things don’t go our way.

However, being the undisciplined rabble we are, no one put
out the time and place of the gathering.
Anyone know where we meet up?

Posted by: jwest at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (ZDsRL)

187
I was under the impression that EOJ was a manager of Old Whores.


It would certainly explain his frustrations with his local "managers" and their declining market share performance. Everyone wants the younger, prettier, more disease-free whores.

Posted by: EC at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (GQ8sn)

188 135

Damn it, I just signed up on Twitter to follow Ace and now he might be done with it. Always late.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (72afg)

189 The Pain Train is coming... The Pain Train is COMING!!!

Terry Tate, Office Linebacker

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (Jls4P)

190
@180-182,

In many ways both literal and figurative, ALL of those guesses are correct.

I prefer to think of it as "Healing People With the Power of Love."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (oihrP)

191 Twitter is teh gay

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 09:22 AM (MpDjI)

192 189 The Pain Train is coming... The Pain Train is COMING!!!

Terry Tate, Office Linebacker
Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 28, 2012 09:21 AM (Jls4P)


They actually have a military version of the on YouTube. Google the battalion motivator it's hilarious.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 28, 2012 09:23 AM (MpDjI)

193 "12 All I can say is this; thank God that there are nations in the Caribbean that are focusing investmenton medical tourism."
Where? Which nations? And do they need IT personnel?
In all seriousness I ask these questions- need me an escape hatch, stat.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 28, 2012 09:27 AM (ksERZ)

194
Ace,
That's sad. I really enjoyed your mockeries on twitter and they will be missed.
I wonder how much longer it'll last in general. My primary use of it is passing along news stories, interacting with morons and one way connection with corperations (i.e. news and deals.) I think this saves me from too much hate. (Well that and being low profile.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 09:28 AM (22rSN)

195 The Labor Department said Thursday that weekly applications fell to a
seasonally adjusted 386,000. That’s down from 392,000 the previous week,
which was revised up. The four-week average, which smooths week-to-week
fluctuations, was mostly unchanged at 386,750.

Posted by: Gordon Gekko at June 28, 2012 09:28 AM (e8kgV)

196 EOJ, call me cynical but I almost never believe it when managers say "accountability" is back.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 28, 2012 09:28 AM (caAEA)

197 >>remember for most of these people Insurance is just a magic box that produces care

I was paying less before routine care when I didn't have insurance, when you factor in the portion of the premium I'm paying, and the portion my employer is paying instead of giving me cash. High-deductible HSA; the part I really resent is in addition to sucking a thousand dollars out of me every month, the coverage doesn't kick in until I spend another $1500, but I can't just pay that at the office visit like I'm used to doing, I have to wait six weeks for a bill. If I don't have a catastrophe--and I used to have a catastrophic plan for less than a tenth of my employer's shitty "comprehensive" plan--I'm just burning money. And in a way that I can't even toast marshmallows.

But hey, it allows my cow-orkers' adult children can get free birth control, so I can't bitch, right?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 28, 2012 09:29 AM (/kI1Q)

198 Wow, I can't concentrate on ANYTHING.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 09:31 AM (HcYHR)

199 Well I just put it on MSNBC. Entrtain me, you liberal twits.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at June 28, 2012 09:32 AM (caAEA)

200
In line with my Pollyannish nature, the day will be at the very least 50% good, with that jackass Holder being held in contempt and the racist CBC walking out of the proceeedings.

Rush is right - being an optimist is hard work. Much easier to be a pessimist.

Posted by: Marybeth at June 28, 2012 09:32 AM (fkaOH)

201 The Associated Press results came to a standstill early Wednesday morning with 84 percent of the 13th District’s 506 precincts reporting and Rangel owning a 45.2 percent to 39.8 percent advantage over state Sen. Adriano Espaillat, the second-place finisher.

By late afternoon Wednesday, though, the results had narrowed considerably: With 94 percent of precincts in, Rangel’s lead was down to 44 percent to 41 percent, with 1,032 votes separating the candidates according to the AP.

Posted by: Barney Frank at June 28, 2012 09:33 AM (e8kgV)

202 Ace needs to put a Doom thread.

Kennedy has screwed us again.

The Roberts Court is the biggest bunch of legal pussies in several generations.

No way they overturn ObongoCare.

Doom, I say.

DOOM!!!

Posted by: TooCon at June 28, 2012 09:38 AM (YcTIW)

203 There just ain't nuthin' like hanging with the Horde before a momentous occasion such as this. I am a bit nervous and apprehensive and hope this whole POS gets canned.

But, if not, then on to plan B, which is repeal and start all over with free market solutions like tort reform and interstate competition. Naturally, this will involve getting as many conservatives in office in Nov as possible, a not-unlikely scenario given the '010 midterm election.

BTW, when is the House vote on Holder due?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 28, 2012 09:39 AM (d0Tfm)

204 Democrats have perfected the art of being simultaneously maudlin and vicious,
and above all else ruthlessly partisan in their pious denunciations of
partisanship. --- MARK STEYN November 3, 2002

Posted by: The Worm at June 28, 2012 09:40 AM (3ip1v)

205 Eff it. I may as well at least pretend to get work done while I wait.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at June 28, 2012 09:42 AM (GBXon)

206 At the High Court in London on Wednesday, the UK government was
successful in its request to liquidate Tullett Brown, a firm it said
made 1.6 million pounds by misleading customers into buying unregulated
credits at almost four times what it paid for them.



Last month, another probe by the Insolvency Service prompted the High
Court to shut down a web of companies that it says made 6.5 million
pounds by mis-selling land and carbon credits and were linked by the
name Manor Rose.



The business practice often involves cold-calling and misleading private
investors into thinking they were buying U.N. carbon credits that can
be used by governments and companies to meet legally-binding emission
reduction targets.



In fact, the credits offered were not regulated by the U.N. and were
unlikely to meet future price projections for U.N. credits that the
sellers portrayed in glossy marketing brochures from banks such as
Barclays.

Posted by: Austin Millbarge at June 28, 2012 09:44 AM (e8kgV)

207 The Dems always remind me of John Candy (Ox)in Stripes teaching Cruiser how to play cards. He makes the rules up as he goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzZNh0P9K38

Posted by: Crom at June 28, 2012 09:45 AM (1WKq7)

208
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 28, 2012 09:29 AM (/kI1Q)
Well you'd be a High Info Voter wouldn't you?
I remember when we got my wife's insurance, we compared a Consumer Driven High Deductible (CDHD) plan, with standard insurance.
The way my wife's job works out, the CDHD plan wasn't a great deal, because her job pays 2/3 of your premium *regardless of the premium value* so if the total savings of the CDHD plan was $90 we'd only see a $30/month savings.
The CDHD plan put some of the premium each month into a HSA for you automatically.
So we did all the complex math, and determined that (even with the premium kickback in the CDHD) the traditional plan was not much more expensive (I think it was like $100/year difference) but provided less exposure to risk overall (and better maternity care should we decide to have kids.) Furthermore, when I move onto the plan (after my job and my insurance runs out) it gets better because the CDHD didn't scale the premium kickback intelligently for the "family" plan.
Our cautious nature paid off slightly as my wife had a severe muscle spasm this year and couldn't move her arm and neck that required several cortisone injections and some PT. We could have afforded it fine under the CDHD plan, but we hedged our risk differently. (Next year perhaps nothing will happen and we'll be relatively "down" money.)

Posted by: tsrblke at June 28, 2012 09:47 AM (22rSN)

209 Eff it. I may as well pretend to get work done while I wait.

Same here. I'll check back in around 10.15.

Posted by: Mary Poppins at June 28, 2012 09:53 AM (zF6Iw)

210 ABC Radio News just said striking down the mandate would be a win for Obama because it would allow the other incentives to get medical coverage in the bill to remain.

Because that's what the bill is really all about.

Posted by: Nervous Nellie at June 28, 2012 09:55 AM (7+pP9)

211 Actually, I think it was some "expert" from Bloomberg.

Posted by: Nervous Nellie at June 28, 2012 09:56 AM (7+pP9)

212 This is the problem with liberals.

To them there is only "our reform" or "no reform". If you don't want their reform then you don't want reform at all. It's like global warming. If you believe the earth warms and cools you have to believe their reason, that man causes it - you can't simply believe that it does this in natural cycles or you deny warming altogether.

Any conservative who has ever gotten a bill for $10,000 for a 2 hour ER visit agrees the system needs reform, just not THEIR reform.


Posted by: Bill Mitchell at June 28, 2012 10:07 AM (hlUJY)

213 Uh, er .. do you think, just maybe, that this is one thread that ought to be deleted?

Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 10:37 AM (knMIa)

214 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 10:40 AM (Xb3hu)






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