Leftist Blogger's Criminal Past Raises Questions About His Real Intent By Ed Barnes Published October 19, 2010 Even before his release from prison 10 years ago, Brett Kimberlin had learned a lesson that has served him well: If you publicly accuse a well-known political figure of crimes or misdeeds -- even without proof -- publicity and money will follow. Kimberlin, a convicted bomber and drug dealer, learned that lesson in 1988, when he claimed from his prison cell that he had been Dan Quayle's marijuana dealer in college. The claim got a lot of attention because Quayle was running for vice president of the United States at the time. Now, 22 years later, Kimberlin has taken that lesson and made unfounded accusations a profession of sorts. Using two popular leftist blogs, the 56-year-old from Bethesda, Md., has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from the public and left-leaning foundations by promising to put conservatives he disagrees with in jail, often with offers of large rewards. So far -- without success -- he has called for the arrest of Karl Rove, Andrew Breitbart, Chamber of Commerce head Tom Donohue, Massey Energy Chairman Don Blankenship and other high-profile public figures. A review of tax filings for Kimberlin's blogs, "Velvet Revolution" and "Justice Through Music," raises troubling questions about whether his "nonprofit" operations are dedicated to public activism -- or are just a new facade for a longtime con artist.One person who doubts Kimberlin's credibility and intentions is his biographer, Mark Singer, who literally wrote the book on Kimberlin: Citizen K: The Deeply Weird American Journey of Brett Kimberlin. Although Mark Singer began the project as a believer, and a supporter -- he shared the advance for the book with Kimberlin, and had previously mainstreamed his evidence-free claims about Dan Quayle by reporting them in Tina Brown's very first issue of The New Yorker -- his entire book is a repudiation of his past credulity, and a refutation of nearly all claims of Brett Kimberlin. Mark Singer's book is remarkable in as much as it is a book-length repudiation of his previous reportage, an extended exercise in self-flagellation for his gullibility, for his having been swindled by a narcissist with a talent for self-promotion and lies. There are many books demolishing previous reporting on a subject -- but very few in which an author demolishes his own career-making earlier work. While I, and Kimberlin's other targets, are heartened by Congress' letter to Eric Holder to look into the SWATting matter, what a reading of Citizen K demonstrates is that Congress itself needs to act in order to finally put an end to Brett Kimberlin's ongoing digital (and real-life) terrorism. Because not even prison stopped Brett Kimberlin's crimes. While working as a prison clerk, Brett Kimberlin forged his own release order, forging all necessary signatures; he planned to release himself at 12:01 am on Memorial Day weekend. His plan is that no one would attempt to call the warden to confirm the release in the middle of the night on a holiday weekend; to make the process of confirming the strange midnight release, he also took the step of removing contact information from the office's Rolodex. This scheme was ready to be executed, but for a lucky break for justice: Kimberlin was unexpectedly moved to another prison before Memorial Day, and his forged release form was now useless. Another job he was assigned to in prison was doing quality control for military equipment. Rather than ensuring that equipment used by the men and women of the armed forces were in proper working order, Brett Kimberlin gave the equipment a positive rating -- and then cut the wires himself. This is not an allegation; this is an amusing anecdote he enjoys bragging about. From Citizen K, page 184, directly quoting Kimberlin from the many conversations the author had with him in preparing the book:
"I'd run the cables through quality control," [Kimberlin] said. "I'd check them. I'd sign off on them. And then I'd cut some of the damn wires."Prison did not stop his crimes. Prison only taught him new skills. As Singer says about Kimberlin's self-education as a jailhouse lawyer:
Jailhouse law suited all of Brett Kimberlin's aptitudes: It appealed to his peripatetic imagination and disciplined habits, offered rich opportunities for creative sophistry, and gratified his bottomless capacity for self-justification.Citizen K, page 183. Stopping Brett Kimberlin's remorseless war on civil society, on the freedoms of his fellow Americans, will not take a letter. Stopping Brett Kimberlin will take an Act of Congress. At his sentencing hearing for his conviction of the Speedway Bombings -- a week-long bombing spree in Speedway, Indiana, in 1978 -- Brett Kimberlin vowed to Judge Steckler:
"If I am sentenced to one day or one hundred years, to me it's a travesty and a tragedy and an injustice, and for that reason I would ask that I don't have an executed sentence. And furthermore, I have decided and am prepared to take this on appellate levels and do everything possible to vindicate myself, whether through the district court, appellate court, Supreme Court. If I have to go through the United Nations I plan on doing that, and I plan on going to the World Court. I plan on filing lawsuits against every person that I know that lied against me and any agencies that were involved with corruption and use of perjured testimony."Citizen K, page 180. Emphasis added. Brett Kimberlin was true to his word. As recounted in the biography for which he himself cooperated, Brett Kimberlin has filed 100 lawsuits or more on his own behalf. He has sued, or harassed, or both, judges, prosecutors, witnesses, wardens, reporters, and even, oddly, Senator Orrin Hatch (Orrin Hatch apparently joined the Conspiracy Against Brett Kimberlin at some point in his senatorial career). He also sued a victim of his bombing, to escape the money judgement awarded to her for her husband's maiming by one of his bombs. That husband, Vietnam War hero Major Carl DeLong, eventually took his own life. Carl DeLong had survived Vietnam, but he did not survive Brett Kimberlin. Apart from the United Nations and World Court -- which, it turns out, do not have jurisdiction over bombing sprees in Indiana -- Brett Kimberlin has filed suit after suit protesting his perfect innocence in the Speedway Bombings and harassing and threatening those who say otherwise. Released from prison in 2000, Brett Kimberlin has now turned his jailhouse lawyer skills on a new pool of victims: Bloggers who dare to publicly mention, on their small-scale electronic newspapers, Brett Kimberlin's criminal record. And the avalanche of frivolous, vexatious, and outright malicious lawsuits begins anew, as well as more alarming harassments. I am writing to you, Members of Congress, to alert you of the full menace that Brett Kimberlin still poses to society. He should never have been let out of prison; having lived nearly the entirety of his life since high school as one-man crime wave, it can hardly have been believed that he had truly reformed by 2000. That is a mistake which of cannot of course be cured. But Congress can act to limit Brett Kimberlin's ability to continue to wreak misery and fear upon law-abiding citizens in other ways, which I will propose at post's end. It is a burden to live with a criminal conviction for a terrifying domestic-terrorism bombing spree, as Brett Kimberlin well knows. However, Brett Kimberlin has decided that burden shall no longer fall upon his shoulders, but upon the shoulders of anyone who mentions his extensive, remorseless, relentless criminal history. Brett Kimberlin has personally decided that it is society at large, rather than himself, who shall bear the burden of his crimes. It is time for Congress to act. Brett Kimberlin has litigated and re-litigated and sur-litigated his claims of innocence in every proper tribunal, and now has turned to litigating these matters as against private citizens. He has decided that if he cannot get his criminal conviction overturned by the courts, he will do the next best thing: He will personally harass anyone who dares mention this conviction. He may not get his conviction expunged, overturned, or pardoned, but by suing any American citizen who refers to the official court records of the Federal Courts of the United States of America, he will make sure no one breathes a word about it. The United States government and court system have long been the targets of Kimberlin's relentless lawsuits, motions, appeals, complaints, filings, accusations, and calls for grand jury hearings into those who supposedly conspired with the government to frame him. The State must bear such a burden -- after all, if the state intends to deprive a man of his liberty, it must entertain almost every legal filing the accused submits. The State is obligated to do that. And the State has the resources to argue against such filings. Private citizens do not. Private citizens, engaging lawfully in reporting on facts, should not be dragooned lawsuit after lawsuit, subpoena after subpoena, into Brett Kimberlin's hyperactive quest to sue anyone who writes about the Speedway Bombings. If Brett Kimberlin seeks relief, he should direct his efforts to the courts which can provide a new trial or a vacating of the decision, or to the President of the United States, who can provide a pardon, and, if he sees fit, a full exoneration for his crimes. But he should be foreclosed from continuing to seek such relief from private citizens, who cannot grant it, and who are only hailed into court to answer specious claim after specious claim to convince them that life would go better for them if they just stopped mentioning Brett Kimberlin. We are citizens of the United States. If the court records of the United States say that Brett Kimberlin was convicted of, and sentenced to fifty years for, planting the bombs that terrified Speedway, Indiana, and maimed Carl DeLong, we ought to be able to rely upon that official ruling, and not be subject to endless harassments by a career criminal who has decided to live in a fantasy world in which he was a "political prisoner" and perfectly innocent of his crimes. We ought not exist in a world of punishment by vindictive lawsuit for the crime of not indulging Brett Kimberlin's fantasy. When I wrote of this several weeks ago, I asked, rhetorically, "Did Congress pass a law forbidding me from mentioning that Brett Kimberlin was convicted of the Speedway Bombings?" Of course Congress had passed no such law -- but Brett Kimberlin is imposing his one-man private law that that is now the official policy of the United States of America. Will Congress speak up and assure American citizens that it is not in fact illegal to make reference to the court records of the United States, and that any suit predicated on such a fact-pattern -- yet another minor variation of his claims that by referencing the court records of the United States of America, he is the victim of "harassment" and "conspiracies" against him -- is baseless? Will Congress read his criminal record into the Congressional Record, to put beyond doubt that it is lawful to state his conviction for the Speedway Bombings openly, and without fear? Will Congress consider enacting positive legislation to limit Brett Kimberlin's relentless determination to sue over any negative mention of his past? For example: Will Congress act to pass a federal anti-SLAPP suit (SLAPP meaning "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation," i.e., "lawfare" to intimidate people from expressing their First Amendment rights), such that the victims of such suits can remove them to federal courts and have them quashed? And further providing for stiff punitive fines for those who file them? Will Congress hold hearings -- conduct an investigation -- into the exact mission of Brett Kimberlin's tax-exempt, not-for-profit "charities," The Velvet Revolution and Justice Through Music, to ensure these organizations, for which donations are tax-exempt, are behaving in compliance with the public interest? Will Congress provide for a federal vexatious litigant statute, limited, if need be, to only cases of cross-state-boundary suits (i.e., federal diversity) and, if needing further limitations, to cases in which the vexatious litigation seeks to stifle the constitutional right to free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment? California's vexatious litigant statute, for example, states that someone who has filed a series of vexatious litigations shall be put onto a list, and once on that list, they must post large bonds before suing anyone else, and further, are requited to get a senior judge to sign off on any fresh litigation as having merit. This seems like a model law for the United States-- does anyone favor vexatious litigation against the federally-guaranteed right to free speech? How many Congressmen would rise to oppose such a bill? Such a law would quickly put an end to Brett Kimberlin's jailhouse-lawyer conveyor belt of unending litigation. Perhaps there would be three, four, or five new victims... but then, the victimization would finally end. At some point, the ongoing case of Brett Kimberlin v. The World At Large must finally, finally end. At some point, the list of Brett Kimberlin's victims must be capped. There are many things Congress can do to champion citizens' rights to free speech. A letter to the Department of Justice -- while welcome -- is unlikely to make the madness finally stop. Brett Kimberlin had an interesting quote -- directly from his own mouth -- about his mindset. I believe in this simple sentence, Brett Kimberlin encapsulates his worldview. The context is that Brett Kimberlin was talking about other major narcotics-smugglers who found his tactics and schemes to be too risky. "I've met smugglers who thought my methods were too ballsy. I looked at it as just the opposite. If you do something right out in the open, as long as you don't trip up and make a mistake, then nobody's going to suspect it." Citizen K, page 57. Emphasis added. A crime is in progress. It is ongoing. Will Congress please act to stop it? A PLEA FOR ACTION, NOT WORDS If you are reading this, please contact Congress to ask them to not only take an interest in this matter, but to seriously consider enacting positive statutory law to limit Brett Kimberlin's ongoing abuse of the legal system and corruption of justice. Please be polite with them: As you will soon be hearing, Congress is in fact getting involved. Congress is decidedly not indifferent to the plight of ordinary citizens exercising their rights under the First Amendment. However, I think Congress does not yet appreciate a few things: Brett Kimberlin will not be stopped by publicity. He craves publicity. He's loved publicity since he first got a taste of media adulation with his "I was Dan Quayle's pot dealer" claims, which, you will not be surprised to learn, Mark Singer has found to be likely a fabrication. Brett Kimberlin will not be stopped by scrutiny. Even when he was a suspect in the Speedway Bombings, and being followed by agents of the FBI -- and he knew he was being followed -- he continued to conduct his large-scale drug smuggling operation. While being investigated for the Speedway Bombings, he was arrested independently for procuring false military ID. And then, having been arrested (and released) for procuring false military ID, he was arrested for smuggling tons of marijuana into America. The fact that the FBI was watching him didn't seem to matter. He considers them stupid; he always thinks he's one step ahead of them. The fact that he has frequently been arrested and caught does not seem to enter into his reasoning. And, as he himself says: If you do it right out in the open, then who's going to suspect it? Congress also doesn't appreciate the urgency of the situation. If there's one theme of Brett Kimberlin's life, it's escalating risk-taking when already in a risky situation. The Speedway Bombings, of which he was convicted, were conducted even as he was under investigation for the murder-by-hire of an innocent grandmother. The theory was that Brett Kimberlin set the bombs to cause chaos and prevent a proper investigation of the execution-style murder of Julia Scyphers. That was never proven; that is a suspicion the police and FBI held. Brett Kimberlin was never charged for Julia Scyphers' murder; the case remains open. Officially-- no one knows who murdered Julia Scyphers, or for what possible reason a grandmother was executed. The point is that he definitely was under investigation for the murder -- this is a publicly-reported fact -- and he knew that. And yet even being under suspicion by police for a murder, he planted and detonated the bombs in Speedway. This is a fact. Escalation. The police and FBI don't know the motive for the bombings. They never suggested one in court, and Brett Kimberlin, who claims to be innocent, has never said why he planted the bombs. But the theory -- again, not proven, not tested in court -- the police and FBI had was that the bombs were planted to divert resources away from the Julia Scyphers murder. Escalation. And this leads to the last point that I don't know if Congress is aware of: Brett Kimberlin is a dangerous man. That is not my opinion; that is the finding of the United States federal courts. This is not some blogwar bullshit. This is not a case of "he called me a dirty name on the internet and I'm angry." This is digital terrorism, straight up. With consequences that go far beyond what someone said about you on Twitter. Some people are heartened that this malicious ongoing to threat to society is finally getting some media coverage, and some United States government officials are now paying close attention. I'm not. Because I know what happened last time Brett Kimberlin began getting some serious scrutiny: Bombs began going off. Escalation. I will be heartened when laws are passed to circumvent his freedom to destroy lives, and when FBI agents are closely monitoring him. Until then, I'm terrified. If you have an interest in championing free speech, please use this tool to find your congressman's contact information, and write to him, or, preferably, call him. Again, be polite; most Congressmen have not even heard of this issue yet. However, in being polite, please also be insistent if your Congressman offers you what seems to be a blow-off letter -- "you should contact the DoJ," etc. We have contacted the Department of Justice. We've contacted a lot of people. We're specifically asking for Congress to act, not to just provide the phone number of someone else to call. Phone numbers we have. It's action we seek. Michelle Malkin has provided the contact information for specific Congressmen she believes might be interested, or hold particular power over such matters. You can also contact them, in addition to your own Congressman. By the way, I wouldn't necessarily assume that a liberal Congressman would not be interested in an ongoing abuse of the legal process for private vengeance. At the very least they should be apprised of the situation -- if they decide to do nothing, that's a matter for their own conscience. I had hoped to write the definitive post on Brett Kimberlin. However, I am unable to finish this today; this is merely what I am able to write by close of business today. Thus, I have not discussed Brett Kimberlin's actual crimes, both past and ongoing. I will discuss these later. TO BE CONTINUED....
Comments
Posted by: Beto at June 08, 2012 04:38 PM (cYQg0)
Brevity, thy name is Ace.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 04:39 PM (iT+4f)
Posted by: Mr_Write at June 08, 2012 04:40 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Beto at June 08, 2012 04:40 PM (cYQg0)
Posted by: Ace's Ball Gag at June 08, 2012 04:41 PM (fqKJV)
Posted by: Evelyn Wood at June 08, 2012 04:41 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: BK at June 08, 2012 04:41 PM (0SL6O)
Posted by: Red Shirt at June 08, 2012 04:43 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Citizen K at June 08, 2012 04:44 PM (iT+4f)
I can't read all that shit but I'm sure it's awesome
edit!
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 08, 2012 04:45 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 04:47 PM (FcR7P)
The usual filth is posting around the right blogosphere claiming we are afraid of them and their fascist tactics are working.
It had been so long since I had seen a tbogg dropping I had thought he was dead.
Posted by: Have Blue at June 08, 2012 04:47 PM (0dPUM)
Because you know, I am a back seat editor asshole.
Posted by: wooga at June 08, 2012 04:50 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at June 08, 2012 04:53 PM (1H47k)
My ratings are doing fine. I have more viewers than Keith Olbermann.
Posted by: Ed Schultz : Talk Slut at June 08, 2012 04:54 PM (c3mby)
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 08, 2012 04:55 PM (qIJKi)
Posted by: Chrisa McCauliffe at June 08, 2012 04:56 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 04:47 PM (FcR7P)
As Ken over at Popehat has been saying for some time (before Kimberlin) we need a federal Anti-SLAPP law at the very least.
I never thought I'd say this, but California may be the model here. Currently however there is no federal statute protecting us from Lawfare.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 08, 2012 04:56 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: agathapagatha at June 08, 2012 04:56 PM (IxlNL)
Posted by: mesablue at June 08, 2012 04:57 PM (+31WT)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 08, 2012 04:57 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 08, 2012 04:58 PM (kqqGm)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:00 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2012 05:00 PM (I/Xad)
Posted by: dananjcon at June 08, 2012 05:01 PM (eavT+)
Posted by: sTevo at June 08, 2012 05:01 PM (sSF0i)
Posted by: Red Shirt at June 08, 2012 04:43 PM (FIDMq)
That's going to leave a mark.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 05:02 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Barky Obamination at June 08, 2012 05:02 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 08, 2012 05:02 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Gregg at June 08, 2012 05:04 PM (Usk3+)
Well said. Friday is not the best day to be doing this, though.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 05:04 PM (Bdr7Q)
Posted by: Blogging Day of Silence at June 08, 2012 05:04 PM (6T8Ay)
Posted by: Glade Runner at June 08, 2012 05:05 PM (vO8SB)
Posted by: ace's keyboard at June 08, 2012 05:06 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Glade Runner at June 08, 2012 05:05 PM (vO8SB)
No, because it was agreed we wouldn't stoop to their level. That's what they want us to do, then they screencap it and throw it back at us in Lawfare fashion.
Posted by: tsrblke at June 08, 2012 05:06 PM (22rSN)
Posted by: Sgt. York at June 08, 2012 04:55 PM (qIJKi)
Well said.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 05:07 PM (tYGZY)
As usual.
And Obama is a fucking sociopathic liar, staring straight into the camera and pretending he didn't decide to release details about the Osama raid and Stuxnet to help him look like he has balls.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 05:07 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: B. Kimberlin at June 08, 2012 05:08 PM (I/Xad)
Posted by: sTevo at June 08, 2012 05:09 PM (sSF0i)
He takes my time with robocalls, hopefully he'll take some of his time to read my email
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 05:09 PM (Y+DPZ)
I think you mean we should address the system that gets us so many of these idiot judges.
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 05:09 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ace's keyboard at June 08, 2012 05:10 PM (Usk3+)
Chris Matthews descending into pure unabashed sycophantic leg humping douchebaggery.
Well, this is a day that ends in 'y'. You are making me bold, Czech!
Posted by: Meremortal at June 08, 2012 05:11 PM (Usk3+)
They can see the writing on the wall, it's 1980 all over again and they were in the wilderness for 12 years till Billy Bob.
Mitt needs to pick a quality vice president, somebody who can win on his own 8 years from now. It will take a generation to repair what Odumbo and his minions have done to the country in these 4 long years.
Posted by: Boots at June 08, 2012 05:13 PM (neKzn)
The guy is sueing bloggers because they mention his convictions?
He has been convicted of crimes.
So how can he sue?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:13 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Meremortal at June 08, 2012 05:13 PM (Usk3+)
Phew! You had us worried until you added '...against free speech'.
Posted by: Enviromentalists, Unions, and the Race-Based Grievance Industry at June 08, 2012 05:14 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Grant S at June 08, 2012 05:14 PM (dsCnE)
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Simply "lawless vendettas".
/"lawless vigilante" a convolution? What CRIME did any of his SWAT targets commit? ...to suppress and punish crime
summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate).../
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:15 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: maddogg at June 08, 2012 05:15 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 05:16 PM (niZvt)
Thanks, Ace....for having the courage to speak out about this.
I know that it makes you a target.
A big target.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 05:18 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:18 PM (lpWVn)
There is a bad pattern here, which I did not get to, as the thing was already too long.
As you know, to be sued, you must be served. Right?
The targets of Brett Kimberlin's suits have a bad habit of not knowing they've been served, though he insists they were.
Seth Allen says he didn't even know he'd been sued. Brett Kimberlin secured a default judgement against him.
Aaron Walker supposedly was served, but didn't know about it, too.
Later, when Aaron Walker got arrested, he was arrested on a second peace order. I can't find out if Aaron Walker knew about that, because he's not allowed to discuss the matter, thanks to that idiot judge.
However, Aaron Walker showed up in court apparently not realizing he was about to be arrested.
Now, I don't know what's going on here and I can't claim to know facts I don't.
Most of these lawsuits would not survive a legal contest.
But, as it turns out, sometimes there is no contest, because the target doesn't even know he's been sued.
In addition, he can do things like sue Google or your cable company to demand that they turn over your personal information.
What if you don't get notice of that?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:21 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Hillary's "vast right wing conspiracy" at June 08, 2012 05:22 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Oscar Meyer at June 08, 2012 05:22 PM (E97yH)
Posted by: indigo child at June 08, 2012 05:22 PM (xXhWA)
So instead, I opened up my wallet for the first time and donated to the Bloggers Assn. And then so as not to feel guilty, I doubled down and hit Ace's tip jar.
Keep up the good fight; this site helps to preserve my sanity.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 08, 2012 05:23 PM (Y5I9o)
Let us just say I think he ought to do more to alert his victims that a court case exists in the first place.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:23 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: indigo child at June 08, 2012 05:24 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Judicial Activists at June 08, 2012 05:24 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Henry Bemis at June 08, 2012 05:25 PM (i42rm)
The guy is sueing bloggers because they mention his convictions?
He has been convicted of crimes.
So how can he sue?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:13 PM (v+ExF)
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I know. ....I'm a bit confused about that too.
This guy has even had a book written about him....so his name is already out there, in the Public Domain, as it were.
Maybe Kimberlin isalleging that in writing about him, people are trying to 'pursecute him because of his past'?
I dunno.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 05:25 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: Judicial Activists at June 08, 2012 05:25 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 08, 2012 05:25 PM (67FA8)
Be careful also, because BK and his goons love to send moles to these things to gather personal information. Pull a Sinatra on anyone who photographs you whom you do not know
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 05:26 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:26 PM (lpWVn)
Let us just say I think he ought to do more to alert his victims that a court case exists in the first place.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:23 PM (aw5Tx)
Isn't it the responsibility of the local sheriff to ensure the lawsuit is served?
Posted by: Barry O. at June 08, 2012 05:26 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 05:27 PM (niZvt)
Is he using crooked servers? I figured there'd be some sort of process in place for that, like the in-person stuff they do on TV.
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 05:27 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 08, 2012 05:27 PM (fqKJV)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:27 PM (lpWVn)
Most of these lawsuits would not survive a legal contest.
But, as it turns out, sometimes there is no contest, because the target doesn't even know he's been sued.<<<<
That's because he sues people who don't have two nickels to rub together. I would definitely contest the service, countersue for harassment and generally pull the temple down on top of us both.
I doubt it'll happen, but it will happen to someone and I will definitely pony up for some lawfare of our own.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 05:28 PM (Bdr7Q)
You're right, he can't win-- but he can subpoena your emails. He can get a judge to order you to disclose intimate details of your life.
Further, he can't win a *defamation* lawsuit, and he knows that. Judges have so instructed him.
So he claims he's being "harassed." It's the same basic charge-- "they're talking about me in public news forums" -- but harassment sometimes survives a motion to quash.
See, defamation has a defense -- truth. Brett Kimberlin simply calls his defamation cases (which he could not win) "harassment" suits, where truth is not necessarily a defense.
Then he says "I was threatened, people called my house," and so on, and now he gets you arrested for "incitement."
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:28 PM (aw5Tx)
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even if, who wins the argument when the sheriff office insists that you were served, regardless.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:29 PM (lpWVn)
Indeed. That is why you hire a lawyer.
Be interesting to know who is filing these charges. And, on the other hand, if a shit-load of defense lawyers go after him, that could end this quite quickly.
How much money does he have?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:29 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at June 08, 2012 05:30 PM (sw9Gv)
[don't post stupid shit. -- deleted by ace.]
Posted by: Oscar Meyer at June 08, 2012 05:22 PM
Ace, #33 isn't helping things either
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 05:30 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: angler at June 08, 2012 05:30 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 08, 2012 05:30 PM (pLTLS)
I had a lawyer in New York say she would serve me by fax. In Louisiana.
Good luck with that, dummy. Click.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 05:32 PM (Bdr7Q)
Because he doesn't sue for defamation -- can't win. He sues for "harassment" or other things.
Everything I do, and please, everything YOU do, must be absolutely above-board. Clean hands.
I am not kidding. If you read Citizen K, you will be scared of this man.
He has no boundaries about what he's willing to do. That was the point of my "escalation" rhetoric at the end.
He thinks he will get away with everything, because, actually, he did get away with a lot of stuff. He was a major narcotics importer for years, and didn't get caught. (Until he did.)
So while you and I might think about likely consequences of your actions, Brett Kimberlin seems to assume there will be no consequences, and proceeds in that spirit.
Which is a dangerous, dangerous thing.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:32 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at June 08, 2012 05:32 PM (XvHmy)
Organize blogger CLASS ACTION anti-SWAT lawsuit v. K's wealthiest funders?
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:32 PM (lpWVn)
Please stop making them.
I also will state my strong suspicion that Kimberlin's buddies plant many of these, in order to contrive some legal pretext for Kimberlin.
Seth Allen, for example, has been seen posting comments like "jews should be exterminated."
But that's very unlikely to come from the real Seth Allen.
Because he's Jewish.
So who said that, and why?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:35 PM (aw5Tx)
Yup.
I've sent some snail mail to my Congressmen and Senators.
And will continue to.
Emails are easily ignored.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 05:36 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 08, 2012 05:36 PM (AlYnQ)
"Everything that guy just said is bullshit."
Posted by: angler at June 08, 2012 05:36 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 08, 2012 05:37 PM (azHfB)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:38 PM (lpWVn)
I actually did not write that, and am not sure where you are getting that from.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:38 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:38 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:39 PM (lpWVn)
I will support Bret Kimberlain's right to use police SWAT teams to kill conservative bloggers, but if that doesn't work, I'll provide the drones.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 08, 2012 05:40 PM (wUFaM)
You're doing a great service in exposing this thug...this conman... to many who might otherwise never have known him. In doing so, you, and the rest of the bloggers who have chosen to take action, may actually save a life.
God Bless, Ace.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 05:40 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:38 PM (lpWVn)
Which comments?
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 05:40 PM (pAlYe)
--
even if, who wins the argument when the sheriff office insists that you were served, regardless.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:29 PM (lpWVn)
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Not necessarily. Sheriffs can serve legal process but anyone can serve papers. I served papers all throughout college and what I said on an affidavit was weighed heavily in court. If I said I served you, you were served.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 08, 2012 05:40 PM (jucos)
Yup, in the BK threads the troll count goes up by multiples. Generally it's the "who cares, this isn't important" type, or just generally trying to derail the thread. Now they're going Moby.
Posted by: indigo child at June 08, 2012 05:41 PM (xXhWA)
I don't think so.
However, it is true that the ACLJ is representing ali akbar, pro bono (love em!), and Eugene Volohk is acting as a pro-bono consultant for Aaron Walker.
I have rationed my mentions of Brett Kimberlin.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:42 PM (aw5Tx)
****
@Catsareimportant and @OccupyRebellion have been vile in their attacks which, of course, follow in the vein of Breitbart Unmasked.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 05:42 PM (piMMO)
Oh, and OT, congrats ace. First Breitbart Award.
You deserve it...
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:43 PM (v+ExF)
What man, what President would want to personally decide who lives and who dies, by name, and intelligence report, in the Middle East?
And if Obama is doing that, why wouldn't he take it to the next level? Deciding that killing US citizens on US soil would be justified?
Posted by: Jack at June 08, 2012 05:43 PM (wUFaM)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:38 PM (aw5Tx)
Actually heard on twitter that Jay Sekulow(sp.?) and the ACLJ are taking this up
Posted by: Ma Bell at June 08, 2012 05:43 PM (uVuwp)
Several comments denounced it.
(search lpWVn condemned with "virtual ban")
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:44 PM (lpWVn)
Because of concerns about my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I could not attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew Breitbart would not be afraid.
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:45 PM (aw5Tx)
But it's for the best.
When people are being targeted by hardened criminals, they must adjust their lives some.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:46 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 08, 2012 05:40 PM (jucos)
Was your job just as whacky as in Pineapple Express?
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 08, 2012 05:46 PM (ePYQF)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:47 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 08, 2012 05:47 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:47 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: CHARLES JOHNSON at June 08, 2012 05:48 PM (Bdr7Q)
Several comments denounced it.
(search lpWVn condemned with "virtual ban")
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:44 PM (lpWVn)
Ah Vanderleun. Who isn't a troll but probably didn't know about the commenting rules on BK.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 05:49 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at June 08, 2012 05:46 PM (ePYQF)
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Not really. Pretty pedestrian mostly. There were times of sheer terror yes, but mostly it was fine. I loved it.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 08, 2012 05:49 PM (jucos)
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:45 PM (aw5Tx)
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Damn, Ace.....I'm sorry to hear that.
Andrew Breitbart had the 'protection' of a lot bigger organization and his personal notariety going for him.
So it was different for him.
You don't have all that.
But....Kudos to you for looking at it that way.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 05:49 PM (eFqqI)
I am crushed for you. That's like giving up the blogger Medal of Freedom.
Posted by: toby928© at June 08, 2012 05:50 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2012 05:51 PM (6LvlL)
You can't be helpless. Neither can any of his other targets.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 08, 2012 05:51 PM (d0Tfm)
Because of concerns about my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I could not attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew Breitbart would not be afraid.
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So sorry to hear that, ace.
Don't be hard on yourself. Everyone has their limits and it sounds like you have a lot of challenges in your life. Take care.
Posted by: Y-not at June 08, 2012 05:51 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not believes things are better in pairs at June 08, 2012 05:53 PM (5H6zj)
I really did not feel deserving of it.
The guilt I feel is about letting down Andrew's memory, and the people at Breitbart, who had a very "don't let them win" feeling about it.
I understand that.
But this was my sad point at the beginning of this piece: Sometimes, they do win. And they will continue winning, until they are stopped.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:53 PM (aw5Tx)
Instead of hitting ace's tip jar, we need to find him a wife.
^^^^
Every girl likes pancakes. How in the hell is this hard?!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 08, 2012 05:54 PM (pLTLS)
I will not be seeing folks up in Providence.
As I say: Some of us are just going to have to live smaller lives than we might like, so that Brett Kimberlin can continue spinning his grand conspiracy theories and endless lawsuits and unending harassment.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:55 PM (aw5Tx)
GODDAMNIT!!!
Go, go, GO!
Gonna let that punk scare you off?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:56 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: the Butcher at June 08, 2012 05:56 PM (8g9qq)
lead smaller lives so that Brett Kimberlin can continue living his
fantasy.
Bravery is not an absence of fear, it is the ability to act dutifully in spite of it. You've done that ace. I think your decision to appear or not appear says a lot less about your worthiness for award than the post you just made.
Godspeed.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2012 05:56 PM (0q2P7)
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
French?
"OSS 117: Cairo, Nest of Spies"
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 05:56 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: davidt at June 08, 2012 05:57 PM (0SL6O)
Ace,
I disagree with you about the Breitbart Award. Keeping your anonymity is important to the work you do. Andrew did not have to worry about that.
Your blogging is and will continue to be important.
As a mostly lurker here, I am grateful for the information you provide.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at June 08, 2012 05:59 PM (W3UHW)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 05:56 PM (v+ExF)
Well that punk has already cost one person his limbs and life and made life hell for many others. So there are good reasons to be cautious.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 05:59 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 06:00 PM (lpWVn)
Like I said, I think it's the right call.
Would I have preferred if I did not have to make my decisions wondering what Brett Kimberlin might do?
Of course.
Honestly, please: Write to Congress. The only thing that makes this worth it is if I can at least say, "I helped the cause of justice and freedom."
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:00 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 08, 2012 06:00 PM (fqKJV)
Posted by: Carl Kolchak at June 08, 2012 06:01 PM (i42rm)
But on a serious note, thanks for taking the time/having the courage to post this, ace. This is serious stuff, and you're doing everyone a favor by taking on this guy.
Posted by: OSUsux at June 08, 2012 06:02 PM (DFXmi)
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 08, 2012 06:02 PM (uv9eO)
Because of concerns about
my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I could not
attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew Breitbart
would not be afraid.
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
****
Oh, Ace. I am sorry to hear that and, you are wrong. Being concerned in such circumstances is not cowardice, it is prudent.
In our eyes, you will always be the first and best.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:03 PM (piMMO)
You're not alone in maintaining privacy. The hard work of undercover agents goes personally unannounced.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 08, 2012 06:04 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2012 06:04 PM (6LvlL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:05 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:05 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Y-not believes things are better in pairs at June 08, 2012 05:53 PM (5H6zj)
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I thought he already hada wife.
I think we need to kidnap Ace....and bring him out here to the Great Plains, to a red state, in the red state corridor.
Put him up in a cabin in the woods somewhere.
Hey, Ace....we've got an RV you can use, if you wanna get mobile for a while!
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:05 PM (eFqqI)
Doesn't exactly blow things up anymore, from what I see.
Still, if this is ONE time ace needs to go, it's now.
Sorry, don't need to be shrill.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:06 PM (v+ExF)
I'm actually surprised that you go to any public event. You can't anymore if you value your nom de-net. Once that's gone you are on the same exposure level as Frey, Ali and Erick Erickson.
And that fucking sucks.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 08, 2012 06:06 PM (kT7jr)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2012 06:06 PM (0q2P7)
^^^
This! 1,000 times over this.
There's a reason why people are loyal to this website when there are so many mediums out there these days.
Not to sound hokey but we love you, ace.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 08, 2012 06:07 PM (pLTLS)
Apparently I went long!
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I refuse to believe that! It would be so out of character.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:08 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: Kevin Costner at June 08, 2012 06:08 PM (jucos)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2012 06:08 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Methos at June 08, 2012 06:09 PM (6LvlL)
Posted by: Journolist at June 08, 2012 06:09 PM (YtRKI)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:10 PM (MCkNI)
right.
You know, people always wondered why I was so intent on being anonymous. The reason, of course, is that I always imagined there were people of bad intent and bad character willing to take political disputes to a nasty, personal, stalker level.
Well, I don't look so crazy now.
I don't know exactly what Kimberlin does, or who he's allied with.
I do know that bad things seem to start happening to people who mention him.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:10 PM (aw5Tx)
I understand your fear and there is a bigger problem with Kimberlin. He has nothing to lose. He's a convicted felon. He should be in jail right now. He knows this and I don't think he would be above going out in a blaze of glory.
What pisses me off even more is the one time he actually went to court, we get the biggest asshole judge on the planet.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:10 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2012 06:10 PM (I/Xad)
Even from a jail cell, he will manage to wreak havoc.
One visit to @occupyrebellion and that fact is not lost.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:10 PM (piMMO)
Time to get out return of the Jedi & scope out a spicy little ewok minx for the boss man?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:11 PM (QkPpM)
Godspeed and be safe.
And if Mr. Kimberlin would like to contact me all he has to do is ask. If he comes after me he'll get more than he bargained for. Not a threat Kimberlin, it's a fact.
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:11 PM (iYbLN)
I think Ace would feel a lot safer if he would be in a jurisdiction that permits some semblance of gun ownership. It isn't perfect protection, but it's a pretty cheap bodyguard.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:12 PM (J5tI6)
I think I would be a better blogger than you guys.
Posted by: Barkus McDumbass at June 08, 2012 06:12 PM (mxnUd)
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It seems it took a target in Texas before anything resembling intervention has taken place. Ali's mother is in Texas and they, as you said, didn't take kindly to the B.S.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:12 PM (piMMO)
I don't know whether you're aware of my existence, but I've commented here a few times, and I read your site several times a day.
I admire you for your humor, and for your writing, and most of all, for your honesty.
I think Breibert would be proud of you.
And if you're every in Pittsburgh, I want to take you out to dinner.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2012 06:12 PM (xfLWo)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at June 08, 2012 06:13 PM (4cou4)
ditto for KC/St. Joseph
hell, I think Ace could probably score free eats wherever he traveled
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 06:13 PM (LK3ef)
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And, ironically, what truly sent them off the deep end.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (iYbLN)
yes, that is what hurts me the most, the idea I've let down the team, that i was, basically, surrendering.
Well, a partial surrender. I will complete this post. That is something.
The thing is, I can't say this enough: Until you read the book, you might sort of think you're dealing with some kind of peacenik who made a dumb decision at some point.
His bombings were not politically motivated -- or at least no one ever thought they were.
The only motive you read about is the one I mentioned, speculated by the police and FBI: Some kind of strange plan to divert attention away from a murder of a grandmother.
That plan doesn't make any sense. It's almost impossible to believe.
But... if that was the plan (and no one knows, I must repeat that), it does make you realize that you might be dealing with a type of individual most human beings fortunately never encounter.
What was his motive? We have no idea.
Never proven in court, and he won't say.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (aw5Tx)
You are full of shit.
You are experiencing a courage-related version of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. You have put yourself out there, exposed yourself and done what is possible for you to do - much moreso than many.
You have earned that award, dammit.
Go get it.
Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (ay6+/)
"Well, I don't look so crazy now."
---------------->
Dude, you're fucking batshit crazy- but you're our kind of batshit crazy.
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (mxnUd)
I meant to write 'mean' to be shrill, being myself.
And yes I do know what it's like to lay my ass on the line.
I can cover that check.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:14 PM (v+ExF)
hell, I think Ace could probably score free eats wherever he traveled
We had a little minor event in Ames and none of you people showed up! And with Romney winning and getting renominated, we'll have to wait for 2020 for another straw poll!
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:15 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Ronster at June 08, 2012 06:15 PM (mHC3R)
Bacon pancakes.....even better.
****
We're both right.
bacon pancakes with peanut butter topping
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:15 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:12 PM (J5tI6)
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Yep. ....That's what I was getting at, AmishDude.
Hell, we even got open carry now, here in OK. ....Well, when it takes affect in a few months.....but we already have cc.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:16 PM (eFqqI)
hell, I think Ace could probably score free eats wherever he traveled
It's not like Hobo meat is expensive, chemjeff.
That said, you are all welcome to Hobo, prepared as you wish, should you ever find yourselves in Montucky.
Lacey can have an eggo.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:17 PM (MCkNI)
No, but people that talk about his criminal record keep getting hit by fake 911 calls that seem to come from their houses. Attempted murder by cop. Dead by SWATing is just as dead as dead by bombing.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:18 PM (QkPpM)
Unless Ali Ackbar's (mother's) lawyer files suit against BreitbartUnmasked and determines that that's a front for Kimberlin, I don't know where the evidence will come in to finger him directly.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 06:19 PM (MMC8r)
concerned about his mother. I understand his decision perfectly well.
this is why people have been slow to talk about this.
One is not merely making decisions for oneself. One is conceivably making life-altering decisions -- negative decisions -- for one's closest kin.
I do not know if I am brave, or am just so uncaring that I could put people in jeopardy.
I will say this: I think this will, ultimately, result in justice, and freedom.
The question is *time.*
There will be further victims. I just hope it is not too many, and it is not too serious.
I hope the resolution comes before too many more people are subject to what so many have already gone through.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:19 PM (aw5Tx)
*waves hand in the air
(just kidding! I only have a crush on Ace.)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2012 06:20 PM (xfLWo)
Well that's your voice to thousands. It is more than just "something"
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2012 06:20 PM (0q2P7)
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No kidding, but as ace said in another comment, WTH knows what motivates that guy.
I mean, let's say you are into politics, even beyond your own district or state. Let's suppose you are REALLY into politics and any and everything having to do with it....
So, you become a fan of Anthony Effing Weiner?
Weiner?!
Not Bill Clinton
Not Hillary
Not even Barney Frank
but Weiner?!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:13 PM (piMMO)
Not really irony. Wiener was a cable news rockstar. He was loud and shrill and repeated whatever the talking point of the day was with glee. He was smarmy, smug and self-righteous.
And ultimately, he brought himself down. They knew it but they still needed somebody to blame.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:21 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 08, 2012 06:21 PM (fqKJV)
Isn't Chamblis Eric Erickson's senator?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:21 PM (QkPpM)
fake 911 calls that seem to come from their houses. Attempted murder by
cop. Dead by SWATing is just as dead as dead by bombing.
BTW, it doesn't seem to me that just any 911 call results in a SWAT team. How does he do it?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:24 PM (J5tI6)
Good for you. Still doesn't give you a premise to be signing away someone else's hide or suggest that they are wrong for not being the big tough guy you are, especially after they have already taken considerable risk.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 08, 2012 06:24 PM (0q2P7)
Kimberlin was fingered through Breitbart sites.
BK has a serious hate-on for Breitbart.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 06:24 PM (MMC8r)
I was starting to think less of you because of the way have handled this issue. You seemed to lag where others have been more forthright. I thought you were a bit of a chicken today with the blank blog.
I was wrong. You have handled this thing in the fashion which you thought best and showed courage that many of us seldom have to display.
And there is no dishonor in anonymity. Even when the world was a bigger place and putting yourself out of reach was more easily done, many of our founders took refuge at least for a time, in a nom de plume.
Andrew Breitbart's in your face bravery may well have been his undoing. Even if it wasn't, to style yourself after him in this situation might be yours. Keep yourself safe. Keep speaking out.
Posted by: kdny at June 08, 2012 06:25 PM (MJ76f)
ace,
In 2000 I was a participant on the USENET group RASFW. An SF group. We were discussing the pirating of books using scanning technology and I made a flip comment that it came form a certain university. BOOM. By _sheer_ coincidence the feds took down a pirate ring at that school. The Mega Millions Lottery in reverse.
My life was hell for over a year as I fought their attacks on my credit and personal life.
In fact, you and Glenn Reynolds are the only internet people I have ever contacted with my real name and email since that time.
People can not imagine the sheer hell that a dedicated group of on line thugs can create in your life. I completely understand.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 08, 2012 06:25 PM (kT7jr)
Well yeah - because back in the day, Weiner was a hero of the left because he'd regularly defame Republicans.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 06:25 PM (LK3ef)
One thing going on here is the power of the Conspiracy Theory. If you posit a crime so heinous, with so many shadowy operators getting away with nefarious misdeeds, they it begins to justify each and every sick and horrible action you take.
After all, you're fighting The Conspiracy.
Kimberlin's associates have numerous conspiracy theories involving the Hacking of Weiner, Andrew Breitbart, the US Chamber of Congress, Karl Rove, the Stolen 2004 Election, and so on. They claim -- and I don't know if they believe this, or this is just a useful fiction they peddle to more credulous supporters -- that these are all linked in a giant conspiracy that only they can unmask.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:25 PM (aw5Tx)
It hurts because the bad guy has a victory
To those of you who won't vote for Romney because he lacks conservative "purity" and figure that Obama will be there when it all collapses need to understand this;
The President picks judges not only on the Supreme Court but on every federal bench. He also picks the Attorney General who is in charge of law enforcement
Do you want the likes of Holder to stick around to ignore the threats against bloggers or the threats to George Zimmerman?
A President Romney won't fill up our wish bags, but he won't have a crooked political hack like Holder in charge of Justice
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 06:26 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:24 PM (J5tI6)
If the 911 call / fake report claims weapons and potential hostages on scene, I think they automatically send in the SWAT team.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:27 PM (MCkNI)
Didn't the patterico & Erickson calls both have the claim that they had shot their wives to death?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:27 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2012 06:27 PM (I/Xad)
Oh, no. According to the Indy Star's series of articles, which you can find through his Wikipedia page, his own brother and drug smuggling accomplice, Scott Kimberlin, was murdered a week after his trial in Texas. Coincidentally, I'm sure, with the same type of .223 caliber bullet, of which a quantity were found in the trunk of his car.
I'm not sure how this totally coincidental tragedy affected him. Or if it did.
This is not a dude selling pot. This is a guy who carved out an airstrip in the desert with heavy machinery to smuggle TEN TONS of marijuana into the country. Caught in the act, with not just tons of dope, but also AR-15s. And he didthis knowing he was being watched.
He. Doesn't. Care.
Ace, you're making the prudent play. Even if the physical danger wasn't there, once your anonymity is gone, it's gone. Doing the prudent thing feels like shit sometimes. Just suck it down and get on with your business, dude.
And holla at a mothafucka if you're ever in my neck of the woods.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:28 PM (JDIKC)
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Yes, but he still didn't write that letter until after the Ali Ackbar attacks began.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:28 PM (piMMO)
All I'm saying is the difference between me and ace.
I would have gone, and fuck 'em.
That's it.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:29 PM (v+ExF)
I, of course, was not considering that which I don't know. I may have spoken in haste. Either way, good on you ace.
Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at June 08, 2012 06:29 PM (ay6+/)
In Erickson's call, the criminal said something like, "I'm going to shoot more people."
Thus, telling the cops: Have your guns out, be ready to shoot to kill.
It is possible that only Erickson's warning to the cops beforehand stopped a tragedy.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:29 PM (aw5Tx)
BTW, it doesn't seem to me that just any 911 call results in a SWAT team.
Didn't the patterico Erickson calls both have the claim that they had shot their wives to death?
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That won't get you a SWAT team, at least initially, in Philly. It'll get you a ton of cops, but no team until the situation is verified.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:29 PM (kFnmp)
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And, at least with the Erickson call, claimed he was going to kill again.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:30 PM (piMMO)
Then that dick HH ruined it all.
But thank you.
One thing to keep in mind, though, is that I am only fearful of future hypothetical abuse. And I gave up an award.
On the other hand, some good people have been plagued by this for now going on * Y E A R S. *
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:31 PM (aw5Tx)
I would have gone, and fuck 'em.
That's it.
****
Chill out there, Rambo. It isn't you.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:31 PM (piMMO)
That's the kind of guy he was. He never insisted that everybody be like him. He was happy with Hollywood people contributing as much as they were able, for example.
You have to do what you feel is best, but I don't think you aren't worthy and I don't think anybody else does, either.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:31 PM (J5tI6)
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at June 08, 2012 06:32 PM (oipCQ)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 08, 2012 06:25 PM
Here's a case where a conviction resulted and the scary details of what they did.
http://1.usa.gov/Lz4nZM
Really scary and audacious criminals will not only hack you, but they'll hack the information of detectives and prosecutors. That's why if you want them prosecuted, you'd better have all your ducks in a row.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 06:32 PM (Y+DPZ)
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Ace, who got the award in your stead?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:32 PM (kFnmp)
It's too bad about the Breitbart prize, but I trust they'll give it to somebody deserving.
Stay safe!
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 06:34 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 06:34 PM (LK3ef)
All of our officers are currently busy. Your murder spree/hostage situation is important to us and will be handled by our next available officer.
***hold music plays Burt Bacharach's "Stardust"***
All of our officers are currently busy. Your murder spree/hostage situation is very important...
Posted by: Philly 911 recording at June 08, 2012 06:34 PM (JDIKC)
Hacking of Weiner, Andrew Breitbart, the US Chamber of Congress, Karl
Rove, the Stolen 2004 Election, and so on. They claim -- and I don't
know if they believe this, or this is just a useful fiction they peddle
to more credulous supporters -- that these are all linked in a giant
conspiracy that only they can unmask
What kind of mental defect buys into this shit?
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:35 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: major major major major at June 08, 2012 06:35 PM (eaLK+)
Posted by: Ronster at June 08, 2012 06:15 PM (mHC3R)
OK. That changes everything.
I have no living blood relatives, and I could easily embed my wife with some fairly rough in-laws.
If I think back 30 years -- different story.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 08, 2012 06:35 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 08, 2012 06:35 PM (QxSug)
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As of this very second, we have 160 homicides.. on this, the 160th day of the year. heckuva job, Mayor Nutter!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (SUKHu)
Kimberlin was fingered through Breitbart sites.
BK has a serious hate-on for Breitbart.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 06:24 PM (MMC8r)
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Yup.
And call me crazy....but Breitbart's death still seems kinda fishy to me.
A seemingly healthy, active guy, just keels over from a heart attack? ....And then the guy who did the autopsy....dies a few days laterfrom poisoning?
....My dad had dozens of heart attacks, and survived them all. ....It was pneumonia that finally took him.
So....I'm sorry, but it still seems fishy to me, the way that Andrew died.
I don't blame Ace one damn bit for being cautious.
It's smart to be cautious these days. ....Especially if you're living up in Liberal Land.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (eFqqI)
God speed.
Posted by: Infidel at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (O/fK8)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (aw5Tx)
That's what Marxism does, generally. They thoroughly demonize The Other and it justifies any action they take.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:36 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:37 PM (kFnmp)
****
I hope you took the time to read it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:37 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:37 PM (05RcU)
A confrontation between Breitbart and Kimberlin would have been the stuff sagas are made of.
You are neither independently wealthy nor physically untouchable ace.
It's not paranoia if they actually are out to get you.
Take care of yourself
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:31 PM (aw5Tx)
Dude. Don't sweat it.
You made the call as you see fit. Besides, we all know you were the winner.
I do feel bad for the runner-up, though...
'...also, Mom and Dad for all of their support. Last, I want to thank Aceof Spades for stepping aside and making this all possible.'
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (MCkNI)
Had not heard that last part. Hopefully the people responsible will be convicted of the attempted murder of every person in each house.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (QkPpM)
http://www.wsbradio.com/
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (piMMO)
Well, can't say it was meant.
But when I have convictions, I mean it. And threat or not, I would have gone to those awards.
And yes, you earned it.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Soona - still banned a Thunder at June 08, 2012 06:39 PM (BcTh4)
In the heart of this moronette, you did the right thing by being prudent so that you can continue to fight the good fight by one WRITE at a time.
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at June 08, 2012 06:39 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:38 PM (piMMO)
Then why are we posting?
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:40 PM (05RcU)
It all about politeness people.
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:40 PM (iYbLN)
It was actually Hoagy Carmicheal that recorded "Stardust."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:40 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:41 PM (piMMO)
That is why you are an award winner.... and this is a Smart, Military Blog!
Posted by: Satan's Barbed Schnitzengruber at June 08, 2012 06:41 PM (Jls4P)
Don Rickles nearly hijacked the American Film Institute’s tribute to Shirley MacLaine on Thursday night at Sony Pictures Studios, unleashing a trademark barrage of insults that took aim at President Obama, Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson and the honoree herself.
OUR EDITOR RECOMMENDS
Don Rickles to Receive Johnny Carson Honors at 2012 Comedy Awards
Mr. Warmth: The Don Rickles Project
“I shouldn’t make fun of the blacks,” Rickles said, and then proceeded to do just that: “President Obama is a personal friend of mine. He was over to the house yesterday, but the mop broke.”
hey I didn't say it!
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:41 PM (05RcU)
911 troofers spring immediately to mind. Paging Rosie o'donnell & Jesse Ventura...
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 06:41 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: trainer at June 08, 2012 06:42 PM (1QEkm)
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AC/DC's Shoot to Thrill would be more appropriate
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:42 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: trainer at June 08, 2012 06:42 PM (1QEkm)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 08, 2012 06:42 PM (QxSug)
A seemingly healthy, active guy, just keels over from a heart attack?
Breitbart was a manic, highly-stressed guy who drank a lot and didn't seem to watch what he ate. If he had some genetic predispositions, that would do it.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:43 PM (J5tI6)
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose:
“I shouldn’t make fun of the blacks,” Rickles said, and then
proceeded to do just that: “President Obama is a personal friend of
mine. He was over to the house yesterday, but the mop broke.”
The black-tie crowd, gathered to celebrate MacLaine, the 40th
recipient of the AFI’s Life Achievement Award, alternately gasped at the
86-year-old comic’s put-downs and then found themselves laughing and
applauding.
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 06:43 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:37 PM (05RcU)
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I think it was....silence about all other subjects other than this one.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (piMMO)
Stranahan has tweeted your post as a "must read"
Chuck Stranahan? That guy is a hell of a Fly Tyer.
not the most proficient caster, though.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:45 PM (MCkNI)
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 06:45 PM (UaxA0)
You earned the award, and that's going to have to be enough. It'll go to someone else, and that person will have earned it too, so good on whoever that is. It doesn't change the fact that you were their first choice.
Ignore the internet tough guys. All talk, and all that. I protect my anonymity online too, and I'm just one of a thousand commenters here. What, you all thought my real name was Burt?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2012 06:45 PM (2pG7H)
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (eFqqI)
until 7? Hey I'm always the first one to the party. I'm always early. Best way to get all the good food
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:45 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:46 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (aw5Tx) Why? Everyone touches themselves Ace. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:46 PM (MCkNI)
I can honestly say that if I were alive then, I'd NEVER betray a Jewish neighbor.
I'd like to be able to say I'd protect and hide a Jewish neighbor--but truthfully, I wouldn't be willing to risk my children's lives.
I think there are parallels we ignore at our peril.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 08, 2012 06:46 PM (xfLWo)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:46 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:32 PM
You like me, you really like me !!!
Posted by: Pamela Geller at June 08, 2012 06:47 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Random at June 08, 2012 06:47 PM (ieFeF)
A seemingly healthy, active guy, just keels over from a heart attack?
Breitbart
was a manic, highly-stressed guy who drank a lot and didn't seem to
watch what he ate. If he had some genetic predispositions, that would do
it.
****
Heart attack and heart failure are not the same. Heart failure is what makes 20 year old basketball players drop dead on the court, seemingly, at their peak of fitness.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:47 PM (piMMO)
Ah Philadelphia....he wouldn't stand a chance.
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Not many people do. It's Fallujah here anymore.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:47 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:48 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Random at June 08, 2012 06:48 PM (ieFeF)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:48 PM (gA69l)
That's it.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:29 PM (v+ExF)
You have NO fucking idea what it's like to be stalked by people like this. No. Fucking. Idea.ace is a brave man, but bravery doesn't always mean stepping in front of a bullet. It means continuing on in the face of threats and violence, while your throat closes in terror at might what happen to you or your loved ones.
This is ace jumping on a grenade so HIS loved ones don;t get caught up.
This is why I talked with my wife before I reposted this mess on my blog.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 08, 2012 06:48 PM (kT7jr)
Posted by: sybilll at June 08, 2012 06:49 PM (UZ6lh)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:49 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:49 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Warden at June 08, 2012 06:50 PM (jrvlF)
Not like I'm under the gun or anything, but if any one of the crazy people in this world threatened me and mine it's nice to know I'd be able to have means of defense at hand.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 06:50 PM (MMC8r)
Kimberlin's Cronies Go After The Lid
http://tinyurl.com/7ao436o
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 06:50 PM (Y+DPZ)
Sorry. I was getting a little pissy.
But I still would have gone...
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I wouldn't, and I'm a police detective. I wouldn't go because it's not about my safety. It's about the safety of my family. Think these people would stop at Ace?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (J5tI6)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (MCkNI)
Posted by: BurtTC at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (2pG7H)
I know what you're saying.....butmy dad was the same way, drank like a fish, led a high-stress life, never took care of himself...didn't eat right.
And hesurvived dozens of heart attacks...lived to 78.
I know...everybody is different, though.
It still seems kinda fishy....with the coroner getting poisoned.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 06:52 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:52 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:43 PM (J5tI6)
And I heard he already had a cardiac problem within the last year or so. Tragic, but not out of the blue
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at June 08, 2012 06:53 PM (oipCQ)
BEHOLD THE SIZE OF MY BALLS AND TREMBLE.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:53 PM (JDIKC)
That's crazy talk. 6 or 7 times a day is sufficient.
Posted by: garrett
Clang, clang.
That's all folks.
Posted by: mpfs at June 08, 2012 06:54 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 06:55 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 06:56 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 06:56 PM (6ClcK)
Now you stop that. EVERYONE is a winner! There better be trophies for everyone in attendance, or there are gonna be big problems. You don't want to hurt someone's feelings now do you?!
Posted by: Politically Correct US education system at June 08, 2012 06:56 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at June 08, 2012 06:56 PM (BVkEs)
We almost prevented you from killing millions, just for once...
And then your leaders hit us with a biological attack.
We elect a political leader of a different skin color... and you become weaponized enough to kill everything and everyone. And stop trying to convince yourselves you did that for any other reason. If you were a Regular American over 35-40, you would have more guns than you ever needed before the '94 ban kicked in, like the rest of us.
Shit, you put up videos of you assholes blowing up other people and set it to rock music, and you're afraid of Brett Kimberlain?
You, and folks like RSM spout Ultimate Warrior Master Race bullshit every damn day, nobody is going to confuse you for Dick Cavett.
Posted by: witty username at June 08, 2012 06:58 PM (iZ6fL)
Posted by: Patrick Henry at June 08, 2012 06:56 PM (BVkEs)
I gave your statue back also
Posted by: BHO at June 08, 2012 06:58 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 08, 2012 06:51 PM (J5tI6)
If you've ever read Killing Pablo that's exactly how the Los Pepes took down Pablo Escobar. They systematically terrorized/killed his family, his associates and the associates' families until despite his incredible wealth and power he was left without a support system.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 06:59 PM (pAlYe)
And this is done, how? Since none of us know who ace is, how does it stand to reason that they would go after his family? And is this their MO?
Jesus people, we are just talking about going to get an Award.
But I understand that ace wants his identity secret. Which is fine by me.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 06:59 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 06:59 PM (gA69l)
You're confusing him with me. I'm the one with the Master Race.
Oh, and suck a fat baby's dick, retard.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 06:59 PM (JDIKC)
Because
of concerns about my physical safety, I decided I could not attend. As I
could not attend, I decided I was not worthy of the award -- Andrew
Breitbart would not be afraid.
The Andrew Breitbart award will go to someone more deserving.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 05:45 PM (aw5Tx)
Damn. That has to suck for you. Actually, You made the tougher decision. You chose life and liberty over an award.You can stay anonymous and fight from the flanks.That is how you win a war.Plus, they will have to spend more time, money and tears trying to figure out who you are.We already know - hobohunting, valurite drinking, head Ewok.May God (or just you hard decisions since you know...) keep you safe.PS. Don't ever say you sucked this year. The morn herd will not stand for it!
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:00 PM (sYijI)
stand to reason that they would go after his family? And is this their
MO?
Ask @ali.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 07:00 PM (gA69l)
Ace has already stuck his neck out defending freedom. He doesn't need to stick his neck out for the sake of collecting a prize.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 07:00 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 08, 2012 07:00 PM (0q2P7)
stupid judge. Harassment is a thing of, how you say, asymmetric value, it's a lot harder on the good guys than for the bad guys.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 08, 2012 07:01 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:01 PM (MMC8r)
Dude, its a joke. You know, a little levity.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:02 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: witty username at June 08, 2012 06:58 PM (iZ6fL)
STFU and get back to work, that jizz ain't going to mop itself up.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 07:02 PM (MCkNI)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:01 PM (MMC8r)
And Bill Whittle in his video alluded to the fact that Andrew had had a heart scare earlier but didn't make any changes to his lifestyle.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 07:03 PM (pAlYe)
stand to reason that they would go after his family? And is this their
MO?
****
They have been trying to get at Ace since the Weinergate posts. They are determined to find out who he is.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:03 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:03 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:03 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:03 PM (piMMO)
I told you. Chad Wincklefarb. From Schenectady.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 08, 2012 07:04 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 06:44 PM (aw5Tx)
That's the first witless thing you have said today.
You have helped shed light on this issue. You have helped to drag a sociopath out from the rocks and lawsuits under which he is hiding. You have done many things to further the cause of freedom in this country.
That you are also aware of your personal safety and that of your loved ones is a testament to your intellect, not a condemnation of your courage.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 08, 2012 07:04 PM (nEUpB)
(Laughs)
Nahhh, I just would have gone to the Awards...
But that's me.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:04 PM (v+ExF)
And I heard, can't remember where, that the "witness" that called 911 is mia?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:04 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: Bosk at June 08, 2012 07:05 PM (n2K+4)
Your doing the right things, step by step.
I also agree with "I will say this: I think this will, ultimately, result in justice, and freedom."
Being in an environment associated with the described "type of individual most human beings fortunately never encounter.", I can say absolutely that they eventually go down. They always go down.....
Posted by: Knightbrigade at June 08, 2012 07:05 PM (Q76p7)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 06:50 PM (MMC8r)
You're assuming a face to face confrontation.
That will get you our yours killed with this type of enemy.
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 08, 2012 07:06 PM (Qxe/p)
I don't despise Obama any more than I'd likely despise John Babydaddy Edwards if he'd won in 2008. But I'd damn well like President Walter Williams a fucking helluvalot better than either of them. Fuck the 'racist' shit, clown.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:06 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: dogfish at June 08, 2012 07:06 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 07:07 PM (Iyg03)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Attorney General Eric Holder has appointed two U.S. attorneys to lead criminal investigations of possible unauthorized disclosures of classified information.
In a statement, the attorney general says Ronald Machen, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, and Rod Rosenstein, the U.S. attorney for the District of Maryland, will direct separate probes that are currently being conducted by the FBI.
Yo many Fast and Furious documents are seeing the light of day?
Posted by: BHO at June 08, 2012 07:07 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at June 08, 2012 07:07 PM (I/Xad)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 07:08 PM (MCkNI)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
OMG eoj is giant scrotum man!!!!! Did you have to abandon trousers for kilts?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:08 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: Final Report at June 08, 2012 07:08 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nc at June 08, 2012 07:08 PM (Cxl7g)
Posted by: BP SF at June 08, 2012 07:09 PM (ph70Q)
Yeah, cuz no one ever sees the guy getting an award. Any award.
Ever.
Nope. Just doesn't happen.
They fly in in WW's jet, cover them in invisible cloaks, turn off all lights until the award is presented and the winner is safely back on Wonder Woman's jet.
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:09 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 08, 2012 07:10 PM (0q2P7)
****
Marchant your guy?
He also co-sponsored the bill to eliminate the big tax on medical devices and to allow us to use (again) our HSAs and FSAs for OTC drugs.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:10 PM (piMMO)
lights until the award is presented and the winner is safely back on
Wonder Woman's jet.
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How did no one see her flying in the air... just her sitting on her ass?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 07:10 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: BHO at June 08, 2012 07:10 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: fresh at June 08, 2012 07:11 PM (O7ksG)
All we know is that he's called Ace !!
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at June 08, 2012 07:11 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Warden at June 08, 2012 07:11 PM (jrvlF)
Posted by: fresh at June 08, 2012 07:11 PM (O7ksG)
If they all go to Jail, guess who has to pay for their room, board,and medical?
Posted by: BHO at June 08, 2012 07:12 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Not HH at June 08, 2012 07:12 PM (gA69l)
Dude, its a joke. You know, a little levity.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:02 PM (QkPpM)**
dayam, drama mama.
I would say on a serious note that I disagree with some of the federalism issues here and that you'd be better served contacting your local state reps with the more mundane state anti-slapp issues and so on. For ex, if you live in Md, complain (nicely, natch) about dummy judge Vaughey and about the abuse of peace orders, and ask for a vex litigant rule to the state's anti-slapp provisions. Who knows, they may be more liable to read their emails.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at June 08, 2012 07:12 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 07:13 PM (05RcU)
This post made me cry and gave me goosebumps.
You are a true king of words sometimes.
other times, your a spewer of words (ha),
but this time,
you are spot on.
Every word mattered. Every thought concise.
Amazing.
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:13 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 07:14 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 07:15 PM (MCkNI)
Posted by: lurker_above at June 08, 2012 07:15 PM (YSDB6)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 07:15 PM (MCkNI)
AP
Makes sense to me. Reminds me alot of obama's middle east policy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 07:15 PM (05RcU)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (gA69l)
There is ever reason to believe that they'll be in Providence tonight, not in face to face confrontation but asking personal questions, taking pictures, writing down license numbers, hacking wi-fi's
They could do all that and you'd never know they were there
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (Y+DPZ)
My back doc not only asked about BO today.
He asked if I had heard of Kimberlin and when I said yes, he asked if I had called and written our reps.
I live in cow town.
The word is getting out there.
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2012 07:16 PM (I/Xad)
Posted by: lurker_above at June 08, 2012 07:15 PM (YSDB6)
G-D Bess and Keep you Ace far away.......Shit I guess I picked the wrong day to see Fiddler on the Roof?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 08, 2012 07:17 PM (05RcU)
All I said, was the difference between me and ace is that I would have gone to the Awards, despite any risk.
Got that asshole?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:17 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Snooki at June 08, 2012 07:17 PM (QkPpM)
No. The tinfoil wad I keep shoved up my ass saves me from that. It's the anus's tinfoil hat, you know.
Posted by: shitty username at June 08, 2012 07:18 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:18 PM (sYijI)
EE brought on that rape by wearing a short skirt.
Gotcha, Don. You prick.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:19 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
So you are the Inflatable Scrotum Dude from Berzerkeley! I know that there was something funny about you!
Posted by: Satan's Barbed Schnitzengruber at June 08, 2012 07:19 PM (Jls4P)
Didn't someone put cooties in old indian blanketsaround the 1800's and pass them off as clean? You're still bringing that up?!
Posted by: Bosk at June 08, 2012 07:19 PM (n2K+4)
DAMN YOU!!!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at June 08, 2012 07:20 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:17 PM (v+ExF)
We could use a hole digger like you in my administration.
Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 08, 2012 07:20 PM (MCkNI)
someone who had a restraining order on them? "Hardened criminals" don't
give a shit about "restraining orders."
****
And gun control prevents gang shootings
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:21 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 08, 2012 07:22 PM (gA69l)
Didn't someone put cooties in old indian blanketsaround the 1800's and pass them off as clean? You're still bringing that up?!
Posted by: Bosk at June 08, 2012 07:19 PM (n2K+4)
Speaking of which, Ward Churchill is still around, and has managed to take his case all the way to the Colorado Supreme Court:
http://tinyurl.com/74org4s
Posted by: jwb7605 at June 08, 2012 07:22 PM (Qxe/p)
And the big gulp induced obesity would have immobilized you all in your parents basement; and I would have gotten away with it too if!.....Wait .... They already live in their parents basements?.....and never come out? Well that was a critical oversight in the evil plan.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 08, 2012 07:23 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 07:23 PM (Un4Pq)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bl4zsaz
Bloggers observe day of silence to urge congressional action over 'swatting'
The day of silence was first proposed earlier in the week by blogger "Ace" at Ace of Spades.
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:25 PM (sYijI)
We certainly don't need infighting.
HH's point is valid, and I debated it furiously.
His point is why I feel I am not worthy to accept it.
Let's keep everything copacetic.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:25 PM (aw5Tx)
Not that I could ever hope to equal him , of course. But it's good to have a standard to strive for, however unattainable for us mere mortals.
Posted by: Audie Murphy at June 08, 2012 07:25 PM (wJliR)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:25 PM (MMC8r)
Praying for your safety for you and your family. Keep the faith. Good and beautiful things often come from the most unexpected places.
Posted by: macintx at June 08, 2012 07:25 PM (ucs8Y)
It's a valid thing. I'm still debating it. I do feel bad about the decision-- which is a good sign you didn't necessarily do the right thing.
But it is what it is. I guess I ultimately felt I would be so compromised if I showed up that I would be all but useless.
Everyone's expressions of warmth have buoyed me a great deal. A great deal.
If the worst I get this week is a little criticism from HH, I will consider it a very good week.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:27 PM (aw5Tx)
Dear Representative _____________
I am writing to you today on what may not seem like a Federal matter but has tremendous implications for our precious right of free speech.
In the early hours of July 1, just last year, LA County assistant district attorney Patrick Frey – better known as blogger Patterico – was on the phone with a man he had never met in person before when Lomita County sheriff’s SWAT members pounded on the door and demanded that Frey come out.
He was handcuffed, marched to a police cruiser, questioned on whether his wife and kids were still alive, and left there in full view of his neighbors – while police woke up his soundly sleeping wife and children. A helicopter woke anyone who might have missed the hubbub otherwise. A call had been placed by a person who read off Frey’s address and said that a woman had been shot – they claimed to be Frey, and said he’d shot his wife.
It was a dangerous hoax that’s come to be known as “swatting” because it results in SWAT teams coming to your front door.
Astonishingly, authorities have never even attempted to file charges against the man responsible. We believe that the man who placed that call was Ron Brynaert, an extremist so far out there even the left wing won’t accept him anymore (he has reportedly been banned from further posting at Daily KOS, which if true should speak volumes).
Brynaert isn’t working alone…along with Brad Friedman, he’s the “janitor” for Brett Kimberlin. who was convicted on explosives charges as the 1978 "Speedway Bomber"
Kimberlin was sentenced to 50 years in prison and his other sentence was rolled into a complete sentence of 51 years, six months and 19 days. During the trials, he intimidated witnesses. Some witnesses even ended up dead. While in prison, he made his victims’ lives a living hell, suing them along with police and prosecutors in true jailhouse lawyer fashion. He was released and then his parole was revoked when he refused to pay a $1.6 million judgment to the daughter of one of his bombing victims by counter-suing.
Patterico started writing about the Kimberlin saga. He almost immediately found himself the target of an extreme harassment campaign. “Anonymous” complaint calls began coming in to his secretaries, claiming that Patterico was a racist, homophobic stalker. His boss started getting the complaints. Twitter and other social networking sites lit up with references to Patterico. Threats were dropped (including threats to do physical harm to both him and his wife). Then, in July, SWAT arrived at his home.
It is unacceptable in a free society that a terrorist intimidates and silences critics who are merely summarizing the public record, and then files over 100 frivolous lawsuits to avoid responsibility.
Representative Saxby Chambliss recently sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder to ask the DOJ to begin an investigation.
I urge you to join Representative Chambliss to call for a DOJ investigation of Brett Kimberlin and protect civil, free speech in the U.S. The government should not allow someone to misuse the legal process to bully people into shutting up.
We will not be silenced be the likes of Brett Kimberlin. These dangerous "swattings" have occurred in Lomita and elsewhere--we don't need them anywhere else.
Sincerely,
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 08, 2012 07:28 PM (+XVQe)
I don't post under my own name, and if there is any trouble to me or my family personally, it's not a hill I'm prepared to die on.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
Haha! No, this is a misperception: He really did just read the comments, by and large. That wasn't kidding; it was real.
He always had a scheme to get me into the Breitbart fold just to get the comments.
One time I got an email from him, or a text. It said, "Read your post, pretty funny. Maybe I should read them more."
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:29 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: schizoid at June 08, 2012 07:29 PM (kExjo)
Posted by: Bosk at June 08, 2012 07:29 PM (n2K+4)
The guy doing the swatting might, or might not be, in Kimberlin's orbit. I don't think it's Kimberlin himself.
People keep playing that up because that's the easiest part of this to understand-- the trouble with that is, it's probably not kimberlin.
The point of my post -- which I did not get to, unfortunately -- is to discuss the stuff we know Kimberlin is doing.
The thing I didn't get to is his serial perjury in his harassment cases, including his attempt to frame Aaron Walker.
I will be getting to that. But I could not finish it today.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:31 PM (aw5Tx)
As someone said a while back, Big Moron
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:32 PM (QkPpM)
Posted by: fresh at June 08, 2012 07:11 PM (O7ksG)
If they all go to Jail, guess who has to pay for their room, board,and medical?
----
Hey, the productive class is already paying for the dependent class. At least they'd be somewhere where they couldn't do any harm.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 08, 2012 07:32 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Arms Merchant
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: macintx at June 08, 2012 07:33 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 08, 2012 07:34 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2012 07:35 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 08, 2012 07:36 PM (I/Xad)
Erickson telling the story of how Don Lemon questioned him whether it wasn't his "rhetoric" that brought all this on.
EE brought on that rape by wearing a short skirt.
Gotcha, Don. You prick.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 07:19 PM
To Lemon and other leftists in the MBM, what's being perpetrated by BK doesn't fit their narrative because in their deepest belief systems, it's something the "crazies" on the right do, and those on the left just hold "mostly peaceful" protests. If some rightwing crazy was pulling this shit, it would be on 60 Minutes and the rest of the MBM would flood the zone with coverage.
The crazies on the Left who pulled this shit like Ayers and his Weathermen comrades now operate in academia, the media, and the White House.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:37 PM (Y+DPZ)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6uzppjj
CNN’s Don Lemon Questions Erick Erickson About ‘Swatting’ Attacks On Conservative Bloggers
Lemon wondered whether Erickson might have any ideas as to who is behind the calls. Erickson noted that three conservative bloggers have been victims of swatting, all by an individual with the same voice. The common thread, he revealed, is that all three have written about a bomber / activist Brett Kimberlin.
Lemon was quick to point out that “that’s not our reporting” and that here is no concrete evidence tying Kimberlin to the calls.
“I don’t think that it’s him,” Erickson clarified, adding that it could simply be a fan of Kimberlin’s who is at fault.
Lemon followed by asking whether it was too early to mark this as a “liberal plot” against conservatives. Later, he asked whether “when something like this happens, is this a call for people to understand that politics can sometimes, depending on the rhetoric and civility, can be life or death situations?” Should we, he added, “tone down the rhetoric”?
“Yes and no,” Erickson replied, noting that political rhetoric has always been heated, but that actions such as this shouldn’t exist in the United States.
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:39 PM (sYijI)
doesn't fit their narrative because in their deepest belief systems
I'll call that a swing and a miss. MBM doesn't value free speech, never has, they value their speech. This is just an ends/means argument to them, and they are totally behind any means that achieves the desired end of "SHUT UP". So they will spin and outright lie accordingly. IOW They probably recognize what is going on, and in the best case just don't care, and in the worst case are actually rooting for it to happen.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 08, 2012 07:40 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:40 PM (sYijI)
Unlike Michelle Obama...
Posted by: beancounter at June 08, 2012 07:40 PM (p18em)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 07:41 PM (MMC8r)
Listen, ace, I'm the first to call you out when you do stupid or inconsistent shit.
But maintaining your anonymity is neither stupid not inconsistent.
I've been through at least 6 different nics here since 2004/2005, and through it all, the main concern has been keeping things cool in the real world.
With things like faking SWAT calls, this is an entirely different situation from the typical blogwar bullshit. Like the difference between the CodeRed virus and Stuxnet.
HH is also posting under a nic, I see, so really, there's only so much you need to risk in setting pixels in the giant electron stream.
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 07:42 PM (UaxA0)
I will be getting to that. But I could not finish it today.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 07:31 PM
Patterico came up with an instance where he told ABC News one thing, and the judge another;
http://patterico.com/2012/06/07/hmmmmm
To ABC: Kimberlin denied he was responsible for the post, even saying that he does not maintain any online presence and said he and his family have been victims of threats themselves and accused the bloggers of constructing a “false narrative” about him.
To the court: I’m the director of several non profits in the area I work with human rights issues and government accountability issues and so it’s part of my job to, to work on the internet because it’s basically a social networking job and so I get Google alerts all the time mentioning my my organizations, my name what work we do and (inaudible).
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:42 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:43 PM (sYijI)
If you really want attention about delivery. Go Registered Mail. It's expensive, but your letter get's put in a vault while in transit, and signatures are required for delivery.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 08, 2012 07:43 PM (0q2P7)
When did this all start? Anyone know? How exactly did it start? His own lawyer right?
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:43 PM
Seems to have started with Weinergate and the bunch who claimed that AW's twitter account was hacked
I said when Weiner resigned that the batshit left wouldn't let this go, and reprisals would come
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:48 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:50 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:50 PM (Y+DPZ)
If, for some reason, you do get hauled in to court, remember your right to habeas corpus. If necessary ask the judge if he is suspending your right to habeas corpus ... he may not see the need to trace evidence and leads, but it is your right, and you do ... you are, after all, in court, and you heard someone say something, or read a docment that someone filed against you and/or submitted to the court ...
Someone, apparently Kimberlin, is filing "Peace Orders" ... ok, show the evidence supporting the PO.
Someone else is making calls, resulting in SWATting (read: Death-by-Cop, an invasion by men legally armed and authorized to use deadly force; i.e., Attemped Murder) ... ok, what is the source of the call?
The callwas used against you, so trace it, even to and through any Internet "stuff" - you are entitled to discovery, and the phone company and internet companies have deep pockets.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2012 07:50 PM (kHJ97)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 07:37 PM (Y+DPZ)
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Yeah....but thereis a new crop of them now....the OWSers.
Remember those guys who tried to blow up a bridge recently? ....That was on May Day, I think.
I remember seeing a screencap...somewhere...in the aftermath blog coverage of that incident....
It pertained to one of the Occupier guys who got arrested, a screencap of an announcement for an Occupy event that mentioned "justice" and "music".
I hadn't heard of K's Justice Through Music org at the time. ....And I'm not even sure that a connection exists. ....But it wouldn't surprise me if there was.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 07:52 PM (eFqqI)
Erick Erickson SWAT
1st caller on Lee Stranahan Show 5/28/2012
2nd caller on Lee Stranahan Show 5/28/2012
Mike Stack SWAT
Patterico SWAT
Area code 403 caller on Lee Stranahan Show 6/22/2011
recording of all calls together.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6lvd3t7
link found at JAWA
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 07:53 PM (sYijI)
Posted by: Retread at June 08, 2012 07:54 PM (joSBv)
Don't mention it, it's the least I can do.
Posted by: Baraka Obama at June 08, 2012 07:54 PM (FcR7P)
Ace you did the right thing.
Posted by: Deli LLama at June 08, 2012 07:56 PM (uv9eO)
If, for some reason, you do get hauled in to court, remember your right to habeas corpus. If necessary ask the judge if he is suspending your right to habeas corpus
... he may not see the need to trace evidence and leads, but it is your
right, and you do ... you are, after all, in court, and you heard
someone say something, or read a docment that someone filed against you
and/or submitted to the court ...
Wait... what?
Habeas is a procedure by which someone charged or convicted of a criminal offense is allowed to go before a judge arguing for release. It has nothing whatever to do with civil actions.
A stalking protective order, or peace order, or restraining order, or whatever the jurisdiction calls it, is preceded by a hearing (unless the person can prove imminent threat), and the judge at the hearing reviews all the evidence under normal evidentiary standards of foundation, hearsay, and the like.
Really, you're not helping.
Posted by: imp at June 08, 2012 07:56 PM (UaxA0)
"Will Congress act to pass a federal anti-SLAPP suit (SLAPP meaning "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation," i.e., "lawfare" to intimidate people from expressing their First Amendment rights), such that the victims of such suits can remove them to federal courts and have them quashed?"
"Will Congress provide for a federal vexatious litigant statute, limited, if need be, to only cases of cross-state-boundary suits (i.e., federal diversity) and, if needing further limitations, to cases in which the vexatious litigation seeks to stifle the constitutional right to free speech guaranteed by the First Amendment?"
No, no, and no. Tort reform will never be passed, ever.
Posted by: Dion at June 08, 2012 07:56 PM (q+FIa)
Posted by: dogfish at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Barky Oba-Mao at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (4vU1b)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (QkPpM)
Where does this guy get the money to sue everyone he doesn't like? That has to cost some bucks...
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (v+ExF)
Nobody has an obligation to report on this, of course; I don't know if I would, and I certainly don't fault anybody for trying to avoid this kind of trouble. But I'd prefer to read sites with more credibility instead of sites with less. It's not their fault and I don't blame them, but I'll be reading them a lot less, if at all.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 08:00 PM (6ClcK)
I get why you're not going, but please don't think you don't deserve it! You deserve it a thousand times over.
Are you getting any sleep at all?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 08:00 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 08, 2012 08:00 PM (8dspl)
Where does this guy get the money to sue everyone he doesn't like? That has to cost some bucks...
He's a jailhouse lawyer, and represents himself.
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 08:01 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Retread at June 08, 2012 08:02 PM (joSBv)
Knowing afterwards that he'd already had a heart condition, if you watch the videos of his last couple of appearances you can tell he's retaining a lot of fluid. I agree that the coronor dying so shortly afterward is *really* strange, but it looks like it was very much a matter of "when" for Breitbart and not "if". That said, I *really* wish he was still with us.
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 08:02 PM (CQ1cz)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 08:03 PM (1P9nB)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (v+ExF)
He files some of it himself.
But he also has a couple of 'orgs' which get funding from the likes of Soros and Barbara Streisand.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 08:03 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: nickless at June 08, 2012 08:01 PM (MMC8r)
And he's supported by money from the various activist charities he runs but makes sure that his stated income is low so that no one can collect on the judgments against him.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 08:04 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: whiskey tango at June 08, 2012 08:04 PM (JvP2I)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 08, 2012 08:04 PM (LVtr+)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 08:04 PM (6ClcK)
http://tinyurl.com/73qqdap
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:05 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM (v+ExF)
Soros.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 08:05 PM (tYGZY)
Ok, you're correct about the specific meaning; even Wiki agrees:
Habeas corpus ... is the name of a legal action or writ by means of which detainees can seek relief from unlawful imprisonment.
... except that when one gets hauled into court, being detained, or the threat, is usually involved. And stalking orders, etc. ... aren't they effectively criminal, not civil in nature?
But the basic point, my basic point, is to force the other party toproduceevidence, the evidence used to generate the order, immediately. It looks like Aaron Walker did not do this, and now has a problem. Had he done so, either Kimberlin would be cozying up to his new roommate, or the judge would've had some serious explaining to do.
Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2012 08:05 PM (kHJ97)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:06 PM (Y+DPZ)
Heh, have known about those folks for a couple decades give or take. Get someone like Jay Sekulow (sp?) on you in a courtroom? What's that they say nowadays?
Yeeeah. Let me know how that works out for ya.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 08:07 PM (8xOfO)
Ace, it is an excellent post. As for the award, you were named; it's yours. You don't have to be physically present to be awarded a Purple Heart or an Academy Award. I think you can even have someone else accept a Teen Choice Award on one's behalf. I wouldn't have gone either, in your circumstances, even without fear of physical harm. Your anonymity (and how do you still do that?) is valuable.
I agree from what I know of all of this that there is a real and discernible danger, and discretion is the better part of valor. My case files are lousy with disasters who simply wouldn't take the good advice, and my advice to you would have been to skip the dinner.
And fight another day.
Posted by: Do Not Confuse With Dick Cavett at June 08, 2012 08:07 PM (3YA+O)
What interesting times we live in. In the 60s and 70s, radicals aligned with the criminals out of a genuine desire to have revolution by any means. Now it seems like they are aligning with the criminals because of laziness, cynical desperation, fatal ignorance, and in the name of vanity.
That's a long way down in just one generation. Thanks Boomers! Way to inflict your collective 'issues' on the world!
Posted by: runninrebel at June 08, 2012 08:08 PM (VZ9D1)
You are a clean signal in this noisy life. Stay safe and more importantly stay sane!
All I need is an "Ace of Spades" t-shirt, so that I have an alternate for when my "I Am Breitbart" shirt is in the laundry.
Posted by: Feynmangroupie at June 08, 2012 08:08 PM (oI744)
http://t.co/34wJ7DeQ
I did a simple bing and found the guy. If it's the same 49 year old caucasian, with the same name, he owns a computer software company in Miami.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/martin-maher/3/a39/56
How did those two get tangled up?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 08:09 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 08:02 PM (CQ1cz)
I know, Polliwog. ....And I miss Breitbart too.
Which is why we need Ace to stay safe, so he can continue to do what he does so well.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 08:10 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: soothsayer, for your own good at June 08, 2012 08:11 PM (dVBif)
Hmmm. Lot's of possibilies there. Unless of course, you keep losing.\
So any idea what his record is?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 08:11 PM (v+ExF)
****
The music dahling! It's for the children!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 08:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 08:14 PM (GULKT)
1. Snail mail, either typed or hand-written.
2. Hand-write the envelope or send the letter by priority or even registered mail. (Stands out from the pile.)
3. Make the letter itself VERY SHORT and as clear as possible. If you feel the need to go into detail, attach separate explanatory pages.
4. If a Sen. or Rep. is known to be working on or interested in the subject, refer to him in the letter.
(E.g., "I understand that Rep. Schnitzel is investigating this problem and I hope you will support his efforts.")
5. Send one letter to the DC office and one to your local office.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 08, 2012 08:14 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Plugs Biden at June 08, 2012 08:14 PM (5OBSH)
Posted by: 66chevelle at June 08, 2012 08:16 PM (QjSgY)
Stay safe, Ace.
Posted by: tdpwells at June 08, 2012 08:16 PM (7vA7k)
In the mid-80's I was a Marine embassy guard in Cairo, Egypt. One of our duties was to raise the American flag on the roof top in the morning. Well, one morning a Marine raised the flag upside down and didn't notice it.
Across the street from us was the British embassy. They called us immediately to make sure everything was ok, because the upside down American flag represents distress.
A true heartwarming story.
Posted by: Semper Fi at June 08, 2012 08:16 PM (AzwZn)
439 Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 08:04 PM (pAlYe) Hmmm. Lot's of possibilies there. Unless of course, you keep losing.\ So any idea what his record is?
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 08:11 PM (v+ExF)
I think its been stated taht winning the suits isn't necessarily Kimberlin's goal and just the filing is. Like if he could get a suit against ace, he could get a bunch of personal information released through the court that ace has kept anonymous online.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 08:16 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: ben at June 08, 2012 08:17 PM (IDCsD)
Posted by: cheetah at June 08, 2012 08:18 PM (zXhtZ)
life. I mentioned earlier that you were unique... in a good way, of course. You are also honest, funny, and most of all humble. You don't need to puff yourself up. How refreshing that is. I haven't met you and I don't know what you look like, but it doesn't matter. You are most attractive in every way it counts. Hope you accept the award in the spirit it was given. You are appreciated... by many. And what you are doing matters.
Posted by: macintx at June 08, 2012 08:18 PM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 08:11 PM (v+ExF)
Convicted bomber....became a jailhouse lawyer....now brags about having "filed over a hundred lawsuits".
You mean that kind of record?
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 08:19 PM (eFqqI)
I want an Ace of Spades t-shirt just so that I can wear it in Woodstock, NY. I have an old friend who has a great house up there, but the stench of patchouli is just too much. An AOSHQ tee would be just the antidote.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 08, 2012 08:20 PM (nEUpB)
Prometheus opened last night and Ace didn't write a 12,000 word missive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 08, 2012 08:21 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 07:58 PM
Probably costs a lot less than you think, especially if your real goal isn't winning the case but harassing the victim
One big solution would be as Ace stated in his post;
California's vexatious litigant statute, for example, states that someone who has filed a series of vexatious litigations shall be put onto a list, and once on that list, they must post large bonds before suing anyone else, and further, are requited to get a senior judge to sign off on any fresh litigation as having merit.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
(laughs)
No, actually I was wondering about his success rate in sueing people.
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 08:24 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: dogfish at June 08, 2012 08:24 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: momma at June 08, 2012 08:26 PM (sYijI)
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Oh baloney sausage. Of course you are worthy to accept it. Choosing not to put yourself and your loved ones in unnecessary danger for a non-essential event does not equate to unworthiness. Wisdom is the better part of valor here.
And as far as that ca-ca about your blog-writing not being up to snuff, well poo on that too. I was here . I watched and I read. Lots of blogs post news links and aggregate the events of the day that matter to conservatives. Not many come to it from a literary angle.
It's like reading the Bible. There are a bunch of chapters of begats. Those are the stats. Then there are the prophets. Those are the ones who tie the threads together. You are a thread tier.
Posted by: mama winger at June 08, 2012 08:27 PM (P6QsQ)
While terrorizing Sam Bowden (Gregory Peck) and his family, he knew enough of the legal system to file motions and make it look to authorities like Bowden was harassing Cady
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:27 PM (Y+DPZ)
While
terrorizing Sam Bowden (Gregory Peck) and his family, he knew enough of
the legal system to file motions and make it look to authorities like
Bowden was harassing Cady
****
Apt analogue.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 08:29 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Radar at June 08, 2012 08:29 PM (Z64pB)
Who decides who gets put on the list, Eric Holder?
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 08:31 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jimmah at June 08, 2012 08:32 PM (cWkOB)
Posted by: petunia at June 08, 2012 08:34 PM (hgrmi)
Get their Congress critter and local LEO involved, get their phone/internet service providers to set up some kind of monitoring of VOIP services....and then blog away.
I have no kids, am unemployed, and have nothing really to lose, plus I live in a rural area where everyone knows me and my family, so the likelihood of anyone believing anything hideous enough to shoot me over is nil. And I would be very surprised to learn that there even WAS a SWAT Team within 3 hours of here.
I haven't blogged regularly in a long time and I do it to vent, not attract readers, so I don't have any, but I'm willing.
Let me know.
This shit has got to be tackled head-on.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 08:34 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Shoey at June 08, 2012 08:35 PM (m6OUa)
to my congressmen in its entirety? I will call each's office and tell
them (or their aides) that it is coming and ask them to read, heed and
act.
of course! The thing is it's such a long story that some people keep saying "I need a Glenn Beck style whiteboard to understand it."
I wanted to do the full whiteboard today, but could only do half.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 08:35 PM (aw5Tx)
get their phone/internet service providers to set up some kind of
monitoring of VOIP services....and then blog away.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 08:34 PM
Have to get enough probable cause to avoid the inevitable entrapment defense
Easier said than done I would imagine, but might be doable
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:38 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 08:10 PM (eFqqI)
Absolutely. Ace is being *much* too hard on himself about not attending. I had been wondering myself if it would be a problem and I see others were as well.
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 08:39 PM (CQ1cz)
I also want to echo what others have offered here as well. If you ever
find yourself in SE Wisconsin/Milwaukee area, contact me through my
email and I will be thrilled to take you out to dinner. However, please
wait till after September. My son will be home from Kosovo by then
and he would love to join us. He's made your blog the first one he
checks everyday since his second tour in Iraq.
Posted by: mama winger at June 08, 2012 08:39 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: runninrebel at June 08, 2012 08:39 PM (bI3Cc)
That feeling of safety most of us have comes from the fact that almost every single human being on earth is pretty decent. When you encounter one who isn't, that feeling of safety evaporates into thin air, and you wonder how you could have ever had it in the first place.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 08:39 PM (6ClcK)
Using the initial catch for bait?
Well played Ace?
Posted by: S Daniel at June 08, 2012 08:40 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 08:35 PM (aw5Tx)
You should do that but while wearing a cheap cardboard Wicket mask.
Seriously tho, good on ya.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 08:42 PM (tYGZY)
Have to get enough probable cause to avoid the inevitable entrapment defense
Easier said than done I would imagine, but might be doable
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 08:38 PM (Y+DPZ)
Excellent point, but I think it is definitely doable. Probably needs to be someone smarter than me, but I'm willing....tis their egos and sense of infallibility that will ultimately bring 'em down. I am also trying to think of ways to play on that.
I thought the comment above about moles at blogcon was very compelling. They need to tighten that security up.
Was everyone SWATed thus far attendees at that particular one?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 08:45 PM (LoTJ2)
I was aware of the situation but this post gave me background I didn't know about.
And if things get really toasty I'm quite sure I'm not the only moron that would put you up for as long as you need.
The place ain't much but its got a new roof and hot and cold running valu-rite.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 08:45 PM (cDwCa)
Why can't the very tactic he uses be turned against him? He's filing harassment suits to beat the band yet he's harassing multitudes of folks. Hell, let's all file a suit against the fucker.
I feel threatened just reading about him.
Posted by: Bacadog at June 08, 2012 08:46 PM (p9+4t)
Posted by: Jimmah at June 08, 2012 08:32 PM (cWkOB)
Why waste perfectly good hobo lures?
Posted by: recycling bin laden at June 08, 2012 08:48 PM (fc1m4)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan & his Gift for Saying the Obvious at June 08, 2012 08:48 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Retread at June 08, 2012 08:48 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Warden at June 08, 2012 08:49 PM (jrvlF)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2012 08:50 PM (Ts9tU)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 08, 2012 08:50 PM (WItBr)
Posted by: Racefan at June 08, 2012 08:51 PM (QgW97)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 08, 2012 08:51 PM (WItBr)
First we were all Catholic.
Then we were all cheeseheads.
Now we are all Ace.
I HATE THESE PEOPLE!
Posted by: Brian McMahon at June 08, 2012 08:52 PM (D7lJF)
Posted by: runninrebel at June 08, 2012 08:52 PM (bI3Cc)
I'll just tell folks"heh, I know that guy and let me tell ya, he ain't just a moron, he's the head moron."
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 08:55 PM (RM1gx)
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 08:58 PM (RM1gx)
Personally, I doubt it. I doubt he even has any drug money any more, nothing they're doing is all that expensive, and they've received some big donations (e.g. from Soros, Kerry, Streisand).
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 08:58 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan his Gift for Saying the Obvious at June 08, 2012 08:48 PM (Dll6b)
Sumbitch. I just wrote a lengthy, drunken rant but I deleted it because I don't know where the boundaries are.
But yes, it is strange in a legal sense and definitely evil.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 08:59 PM (tYGZY)
Posted by: Ronster at June 08, 2012 08:59 PM (mHC3R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 09:00 PM (piMMO)
But it grew.
And soon, the earth will shake as to the thundering of buffaloes many moons ago.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:01 PM (WY3bD)
Posted by: gp at June 08, 2012 09:02 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Retread at June 08, 2012 09:03 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 08:35 PM (aw5Tx)That's because you're in here with us morons. Besides, it's almost time to hit the Valu-Rite and start tracking tonight's Hobos. We won't be needing Part II until tomorrow.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 09:05 PM (XBfEJ)
I haven't paid alot of attention to this because it really doesn't interest me. Now it does though, I had to read hotair today because ace wasn't cribbing from them.
There is a way to stop this BS though but it takes some coin. It isn't going to happen with Eric Holder, he won't do shit.
What needs to happen is that the attorney handling this needs to hire a private dick or whatever that equates to on the interwebs. Find out everyone that is behind brietbartunmasked and publish everything you can find out about them. Pictures, where they work, where they live along with a description of what they have been doing.
Unless they are all retired millionaires it will stop.
Posted by: robtr at June 08, 2012 09:10 PM (MtwBb)
Was glad to see your thumbs up for Collings guitars. You've got good taste.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:12 PM (AiZkN)
Posted by: steevy at June 08, 2012 09:12 PM (Ts9tU)
Some posts bring to mind B&W post-war film noir scenes, with a guy's ex-GI buddies having his back while he is under heat from evil forces. God bless the Moron horde, and that furry ewok. But this ain't no movie - and with Ace's cred, this threat to him & his family shit scares me. Congrats on the award you earned, Ace. Some asshole with useful idiot accomplices cheated you of the podium. No need to make said podium a recon or worse target of opportunity for "progressive" operatives.
Posted by: ktnxbai *cough* lace wigs and rolex replicas at June 08, 2012 09:18 PM (fc1m4)
"Never in the eight years that I have worked as an independent blogger have I seen such a concerted threat to the fundamental right of citizen journalists to speak their minds freely and without fear of bodily harm," Malkin said in her column.
The MBM will not get involved, or will leave it until they have no other choice, because they see the bloggers and alternative media as the enemy who caused the drop in their audience/readership. The citizen journalist is the thorn in their side. Anything or anybody that interferes with bloggers is probably OK with them.
Posted by: Decaf at June 08, 2012 09:19 PM (1mxP9)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 09:20 PM (XBfEJ)
Posted by: Decaf at June 08, 2012 09:24 PM (1mxP9)
How about "United Statesian?"
Posted by: Excretius at June 08, 2012 09:18 PM (O3R/2)
I've heard that some batshit crazy liberal assholes actually say these sort of retarded things.
In point of fact, the Mexicans are NOT "Americanos." If you want to speak "correctly," they are Norte Americanos, in the same continental sense that the French are Europeans.
Canada and America were called Canada and America from their earliest colonial beginnings, as was Mexico. What country, pray tell, is America if not "America?"
Posted by: Steve Irwin at June 08, 2012 09:26 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:26 PM (niZvt)
I'm normally mostly a lurker, buti wanted to say that I read your site every single day and I love it (and the moron horde). Actually it's the first site I visit and I usually haven't open in a tab so I can refresh frequently to catch new posts and comments.
I am, unfortunately, related by marriage to someone who is a diagnosed sociopath. This person does exactly what you described: pick a target, start with small nitpicky stuff and escalate, escalate, escalate until they get caught and gat a gigantic smack down. The it starts all over again. But the longer this person gets away with the nonsense, the bolder they get.
You are right to be wary of putting yourself out there as an easy target in Kimberlin's path. I don't blame you at all for your caution- and that is what it is, NOT cowardice but caution and prudence. We all know that you won that award and are proud of your for it. But I don't need you a cep ring an award to keep me lurking here in my free time. Again, I love this site. Be proud of yourself and keep up what you're doing.
God bless you and I will be keeping you in my prayers.
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at June 08, 2012 09:27 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Zilla at June 08, 2012 09:28 PM (xrFvP)
Furthermore, since Mexico is in North America, and is composed of states, Mexico could accurately be described as a United States of America.
Our nation doesn't really have a proper name.
My proposal: Vesspuccia. The United States of Vesspuccia.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 09:29 PM (6ClcK)
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at June 08, 2012 09:29 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:30 PM (fdnD9)
This asshole obviously needs exposure and publicity. Fox News should be all over him, as should Drudge. Rush Limbaugh should expound on him daily, and contribute a hefty $10 million toward the fund to keep him in his cage.
That would do a lot more than a national day of blogger silence that passed without any mention even on FNC.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:31 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 09:29 PM (6ClcK)
How about the United States of Clitoria, inhabited by the Clitorises?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:33 PM (niZvt)
How about "United Statesian?"
Posted by: Excretius at June 08, 2012 09:18 PM (O3R/2)
Not to be pedantic but the Mexicans I work with aren't concerned with the efforts of La Raza and how that effects them as "a people."
Most of them travel back and forth seasonally and a few that I've talked to are heading back permanently by the end of summer because they're just not digging this anymore.
The biggest reason is pay. They can make a bit less of a similar amount but they're not in foreign territory and away from their families anymore.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 09:33 PM (tYGZY)
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:35 PM (ZFXqT)
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 09:33 PM (tYGZY)
Besides, under El Presidente Obama, America is no longer that much different from Mexico anyway.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:35 PM (niZvt)
Earned it, even if you can't go get it.
Should post reminders and sample letters over the weekend, help people remember.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 09:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:35 PM (niZvt)
That's not true!
Mexico has lower unemployment.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 09:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Journolist at June 08, 2012 09:38 PM (2VHiD)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 09:38 PM (DGIjM)
Too bad K. won a day like this.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:39 PM (niZvt)
The United States of Mexico.
Posted by: Excretius at June 08, 2012 09:38 PM (O3R/2)
Right.
So someone should remind the self-loathing liberal assholes calling themselves "USers" that the United Staters of Mexico might be offended.
Maybe they would just prefer that America and Americans had no name at all?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:42 PM (niZvt)
rofl stuff.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:43 PM (F1lOF)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 09:29 PM (6ClcK)
New Asskickia. Citizen title "Asskicker."
Or, if that's too obvious, how about Badassia or The United States of Awesome.
I could be an Awesomer then. We're the Awesomes.
We have lots of choices.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 09:44 PM (bxiXv)
Promise.
Posted by: concrete girl at June 08, 2012 09:44 PM (8BHju)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:45 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 09:46 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:47 PM (F1lOF)
rofl stuff.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:43 PM (F1lOF)
I added my own stupidity to that. ; )
I have been so bored today that I actually argued with Paul bots.. good grief.. what have I become without ACE!!??!!
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 09:49 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:41 PM (niZvt)
They'd prefer us not to exist.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 09:49 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: WeWhoLurk at June 08, 2012 09:50 PM (gW5fI)
532 Will there be an ONT tonight, anyway? Must we let K. deprive us of that guilty pleasure?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:42 PM (niZvt)
Its a new day at midnight.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 09:50 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: old glazier at June 08, 2012 09:51 PM (KcINh)
The degree of American Liberal Self-Loathing knows NO bounds whatsoever.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:53 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 09:53 PM (DGIjM)
Congrats ace. We've cordially disagreed here and there but I got nuthin' but respect man.
Posted by: teej at June 08, 2012 09:53 PM (pyh5u)
not really atlhough they have e worsened the problem by making dissenters /regular citizens fair game to get power, i saw this with Joe the Plumber, we see those of the left able to attack and get cover from the media. From the highets to the lowest freak shitting on police cars and raping women, bombing police stations ,, free as a bird...as long as you're on the winning team i guess...
now it';s so open. i mean when i heard a congressperson asked DOJ to get involved my reaction was to laugh! i felt no comfort.
ace your first duty is to your family, then friends then community.imho
this might be beyond what i'm supposed to comment if so .. erase.
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2012 09:54 PM (TomZ9)
Obama strikes me as the sort that would spit in it... like the "Reverend" Jackson brags of doing.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:54 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Retread at June 08, 2012 09:57 PM (joSBv)
Posted by: Burger King at June 08, 2012 09:57 PM (mxnUd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 09:57 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 09:58 PM (LK3ef)
I wonder how long before it spills over into Arizona or Texas... and the MSM and the Feds insist nothing be done about it?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 09:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 09:58 PM (piMMO)
Ace, I love you, and I want to have your baby.
Posted by: Lewis at June 08, 2012 09:59 PM (UB1pV)
557 Oh hell, they have his name associated to your blog.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 09:58 PM (piMMO)
Yeah the Twitchy article f*cked up.
Oh BTW NDH, there are about 20 banana flips sitting on the shelf at my local gas station. First time I've seen any in months.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:02 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Lewis at June 08, 2012 09:59 PM (UB1pV)
haha , get . in. line.
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2012 10:02 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: B. H. Soetoro - Obama at June 08, 2012 10:02 PM (c3mby)
Oh BTW NDH, there are about 20 banana flips sitting on the shelf at my local gas station. First time I've seen any in months.
****
Eat one and think of me!
Wait. What?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:03 PM (piMMO)
Based on some links from (AndyCanuk?) During the Brett Kimberlin blog day, it looks like Canadians are more familiar than we are with Tides and Soros and *really* don't like them. It'd be great if Canada were to move use the connection to get Soros, although it's possible I'm being too optimistic.
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 10:03 PM (CQ1cz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:03 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Lewis at June 08, 2012 09:59 PM (UB1pV)
haha , get . in. line.
*****
I DO NOT want to have his baby, or any baby for that matter.
I just want to style his backhair.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:04 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:03 PM (piMMO)
God I could give such a dirty response to this.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:05 PM (GULKT)
Bullshit K.'s victims had nonsense suits filed on them, and for some reason the victims never got notified, despite claims in writing to the contrary, so the defendant does not show up, and Bullshit K. gets a default judgement.
The next step after a default judgement is a writ of garnishment for information ( I.E., pay up, or explain to the judge where your assets are in person ). For some reason, a copy of the writ never makes it to the defendant, despite the statement on the writ that it was served.
Last step: The judge, who thinks he is being ignored, issues a bench warrant for the defendant.
Posted by: Kristopher at June 08, 2012 10:06 PM (0aV2C)
*****
It's a round, flat piece of pound cake folded like a taco around banana filling. But, it's not a cream filling, more of a sugary, icing-like filling.
They don't sell them here any longer.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:06 PM (piMMO)
564 What's a banana flip?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:03 PM (niZvt)
Its this CoolCzech. http://tinypic.com/r/25oz0hf/6
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:07 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:07 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:04 PM (piMMO)
ooooh, i have some gorgeous silver beads. although He looks like a spring, perhaps we should go more pastel.
Posted by: willow at June 08, 2012 10:07 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 10:08 PM (LoTJ2)
Mo Strong.
Yes We Invented Oil for Food.
Remember that? Just as Global warming hit its stride.
Posted by: bunch of prudes at June 08, 2012 10:09 PM (D7lJF)
****
Yes! Bo Derek from Ten!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:09 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:10 PM (lzvtR)
Oh thank goodness. I was afraid it'd lead to Urban Dictionary.
You bastards have stolen my innocence more then once.
Posted by: ErikW at June 08, 2012 10:10 PM (tYGZY)
Serious, honest question*: how can Congress stop him with laws, given the banning of Bills of Attainder? Wouldn't a law concerning what he is up to fall under that category? Or would that only be laws which seek to punish him, and not laws which seek to stop him?
*From a person who has to deal with a crazed relative who uses the law and relatively unlimited financial resources to ruin me and others in my family. I have a TEENY bit of understanding of how awful unfair things can get.
Posted by: Baldy at June 08, 2012 10:11 PM (IJ4lH)
You bastards have stolen my innocence more then once.
AHAHAA!
Now I'm going to go check the UD because I bet there's something in there.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:13 PM (piMMO)
We need you. The nation needs you. You know, better than most of us, what a great hole was left by Breitbart's death. We can't afford to lose any more great fighters to scum like BK--we need you in the battles ahead. Stay safe.
Posted by: Burke at June 08, 2012 10:14 PM (9N3G1)
Posted by: willow thinks Freud? at June 08, 2012 10:15 PM (TomZ9)
Here is a prime example:
http://tinypic.com/r/25oz0hf/6
The singer is Marta Kubisova, who not only had an incredible singing voice, but was also one incredibly hot fox... once in a while, it does a body good to realize that the Czechs do happen to be a rather attractive people, physically.
You might not understand the words (the song is about "bell people" that stand out by their achievements - you'll get the point watching the video). It was also a very anti-Communist song.
For her trouble... the woman's career was destroyed and she was banned from public performance, becoming a "non-person." Essentially, what American liberals would like to do to Rush Limbaugh. Disgusting, the Left is.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:16 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 08, 2012 10:18 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: old glazier at June 08, 2012 09:51 PM (KcINh)
Sorry, the rest of us are trying to get the phone number of The Girl In Video Number Two.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 10:19 PM (bxiXv)
when you grab the stem of a banana and flip it so that it rips open and starts the peeling process using only one hand, i.e., Bill just pulled off a double-banana flip...now that's badass
Now check out 'banana falafel'
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:19 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 10:20 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Baldy at June 08, 2012 10:11 PM (IJ4lH)
Legal changes to reduce Abuse of Process, for everyone. Not targeting an individual - but this individual is a great example of those abuses.
Things like MD's idiot "instant arrest warrants" would be a state issue (in as many states as have crap like that on the books).
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 10:20 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: LaZrtx at June 08, 2012 10:21 PM (bK81x)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:21 PM (lzvtR)
581 erikw, sometimes a banana flip is just a banana flip
Posted by: willow thinks Freud? at June 08, 2012 10:15 PM (TomZ9)
But you should think of NDH when you eat one
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:22 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:23 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:23 PM (DGIjM)
Here is that video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1M2-rWePQ&feature=related
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:24 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 10:25 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 10:25 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:22 PM (GULKT)
gah, cough, choke, sputter, ok that DOES sound dirty!
or was that me?
Posted by: willow thinks Freud? at June 08, 2012 10:25 PM (TomZ9)
****
Yep, unless Ace now has six kids.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:26 PM (piMMO)
593 Hey, I saw that name on twitchy.. that isnt ACE. Thats another blogger.. right?
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:23 PM (DGIjM)
Yeah that's the name of the blogger that ended up getting the award since ace passed on it. Twitchy messed up.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:26 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Perky Loofah at June 08, 2012 10:27 PM (w6cJ/)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 10:25 PM (LK3ef)
She'll make your banana flip... promise...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:28 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:28 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Dairy Queen Treat or Sex Act? at June 08, 2012 10:29 PM (ut3u1)
Here is that video:
*****
I was scrolling through and, at around 3:30, thought I saw a pic of Ace, but it was just some Greek.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:29 PM (piMMO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4K3w2v3zkY
It's got farm animals.
Posted by: Perky Loofah at June 08, 2012 10:27 PM (w6cJ/)
That's one version of it, this one's better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh1M2-rWePQ&feature=related
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:29 PM (niZvt)
602 ACE passed on it?!! Why?
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:28 PM (DGIjM)
See comment 105.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:30 PM (GULKT)
Isn't Kimberlin just a small fish in a large pond?
Posted by: S Daniel at June 08, 2012 08:40 PM
Like a piranha ?
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:30 PM (Y+DPZ)
God, what a hateful, spiteful hag.
And you did deserve the award, Ace. You and Andrews' situations were different. This guy isn't going after public figures for a good reason. It's much easier for him this way.
Posted by: Ktgreat at June 08, 2012 10:30 PM (ImtLX)
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 10:31 PM (ut3u1)
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:30 PM (GULKT)
awwwww. He deserved that award.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:31 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:31 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Max Cady at June 08, 2012 10:32 PM (mLXaN)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:32 PM (lzvtR)
stay safe ace, you made the right choice for you at this time. and it's alright.
Posted by: willow thinks Freud? at June 08, 2012 10:32 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:33 PM (piMMO)
602 ACE passed on it?!! Why?
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:28 PM (DGIjM)
See comment 105.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:30 PM
This shit appears to have started with Weinergate. Once Weiner went down, batshit lefties who were running interference for Mr Dick Pic had a Ace in their crosshairs
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:33 PM (Y+DPZ)
Yeah, the barnyard bit hit a little too close to home
Posted by: Perky Loofah at June 08, 2012 10:33 PM (w6cJ/)
The folks at Breitbart are against gay marriage.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 10:31 PM (ut3u1)
bwahaha
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:33 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:34 PM (piMMO)
think i'll wander off to soak in the tub.
Always a good time to have your webcam recalibrated...two birds, one soak and all that.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 10:34 PM (ut3u1)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:33 PM (Y+DPZ)
unhinged fucking loons.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 10:34 PM (DGIjM)
innocent citizens subjected to Brett Kimberlin's lawless vigilantism.
Bro, unless congress acts, I fear that a corrective action will impose itself upon the situation which is neither necessarily right, nor lawful, but will be entirely within the realm of one seeking self-preservation.
There is no shortage of balls in this world. Let's hope that congress can preempt the worst case scenario.
Posted by: Fritz at June 08, 2012 10:35 PM (ZN5qR)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 08, 2012 10:36 PM (0Db2g)
Nail one of them, maybe the guy who did the actual SWAT-ting and they'll rat him out for a ham sandwich. This isn't the Mafia where they swear an omerta
For all his tricks, it'll be one of his buddies ratting him out that will be his downfall.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:37 PM (Y+DPZ)
****
It feels wrong to enjoy that movie as much as I do. For anyone who's never seen it, you have no idea how great it is.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:37 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:38 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:37 PM (Y+DPZ)
Like that Anonymous group. They turned on each other in no time.
I wonder what would happen if Kimberlin found out he was being used as a pawn from someone higher up the food chain? Does he have the balls to go after people bigger than bloggers?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 10:40 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Contributor X at June 08, 2012 10:40 PM (9E8+E)
I
wonder what would happen if Kimberlin found out he was being used as a
pawn from someone higher up the food chain? Does he have the balls to go
after people bigger than bloggers?
****
Wanna bet that the moment one of his big donors dries up he turns on them?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:41 PM (piMMO)
OCONUS = outside contiguous United States?
Posted by: Contributor X at June 08, 2012 10:40 PM (9E8+E)
Really, never heard that one.
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:41 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 10:41 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:42 PM (niZvt)
I guess Hawaii and Alaska count as "overseas."
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:43 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:41 PM (piMMO)
I am not taking that bet, missy, as I'd lose my ass for sure.
If he is in fact being tooled, they were idiots for going there.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 10:43 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 10:43 PM (b+Qud)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 10:43 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: PSW at June 08, 2012 10:44 PM (ci4U8)
Posted by: Rewrite! at June 08, 2012 10:46 PM (va0Kn)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:46 PM (Y+DPZ)
Then you have Foreign OCONUS and Non- Foreign OCONUS.
Posted by: KTF at June 08, 2012 10:47 PM (7MFxV)
642 If there is any connection between BK Co and the SCOAMF or the DNC, they'll be looking at diesel oil pans in no time
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:46 PM (Y+DPZ)
Isn't Van Jones associated with that "Progress through Music" blog that Kimberlin runs?
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 10:48 PM (GULKT)
The professional fixers and machine operators weren't happy with what happened to John Edwards and later Weiner. Blogs have greatly undermined their ability to manipulate the levers of power behind the scenes and that has a good lot of them quite pissed off. Look at the scumbag lawyer that was the interim senator for Ted Kennedy and the executor of that family's estate. There are all these goons, which while they aren't politicians themselves, have made fortunes working in the background in a symbiotic relationship. Blogs are undermining their investments in the political influence market and making formerly hidden parts of the machine public. They can't stand being out in the open and subject to public scrutiny.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 08, 2012 10:48 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 08, 2012 10:49 PM (celt+)
*****
Cape Fear, 1962 version. Scandalous for its time and remains remarkably intense today.
http://bit.ly/MtWgfO
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:50 PM (piMMO)
Missed an 'O'.
Is primarily a military and state dept term.
Don't know about these days, but it used to be to serve a miliatry career one had to have at least two OCONUS tours, poopholes like Hawaii, Alaska, Guam, Virgin Islands (etc.) counted.
Posted by: KTF at June 08, 2012 10:50 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 08, 2012 10:51 PM (celt+)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 08, 2012 10:53 PM (celt+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:53 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 08, 2012 10:53 PM (uB19f)
If what you write about Congress turns out to be correct, and it might, then what?
From your first paragraph: " ... given the legal protections Kimberlin is wrapping himself up in." ... do you think Lawfare, asthe only means of legitimate self-defense,is the eventual outcome?
Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2012 10:53 PM (kHJ97)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 10:54 PM (b+Qud)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:53 PM (piMMO)
No matter how many times you send it, some people never get the effing memo.
Cob-loggers or Ace, 640 & 644. Probable cleanup.
Not that y'all didn't try to dance along the line, we were effing asked *repeatedly* to stay away from the effing line. That means don't try to sneak yer freakin' toe over the line.
Dayamn, peeps.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 10:55 PM (bxiXv)
http://bit.ly/MtWgfO
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:50 PM
And is still far superior to Scorsese's 1991 remake
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:55 PM (Y+DPZ)
If he is in fact being tooled, they were idiots for going there.
****
And I'm guessing blackmail will be the light-duty stuff.
You lie down with dogs.....
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:56 PM (piMMO)
You know the Ken Burns effect? The one he has used in all those great documentary films, like "The Civil War," and others? Closeup on a photo, pan across it, the voice-over telling the tale of an event. Shit, it was like being their on those battlefields long ago.
Edit Gibbs out of this one, start the story with a close up on Bill, move out to full page, then close in on the JEF.
Here is the linky to the photo. Hat tip to NRO http://tinyurl.com/7jj5hdu
Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at June 08, 2012 10:56 PM (PH+2B)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 10:56 PM (UupmU)
If he comes after anybody in the Garden Sate, I'm there.
Posted by: teh Wind at June 08, 2012 10:55 PM
He already did ... Mike Stack
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 10:56 PM (Y+DPZ)
much. I used to like Robert Mitchum. But crap, he was menacing. Now I
respect his talent. Too bad about the head hitting the nightstand while
drunk. May the Good Lord be merciful to him and me.
****
bingo! Menacing is precisely the definition and he was utterly convincing.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 10:57 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 10:58 PM (b+Qud)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 10:59 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 10:59 PM (UupmU)
Posted by: indigo child at June 08, 2012 11:00 PM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 08, 2012 11:01 PM (hXJOG)
****
As a stand-alone film, it would have been great, but some films you simply do not remake, and this is one. There may have been a version prior to 1962, but there should never have been one following it.
The very best part of the newer version was Juliette Lewis. She stole every scene.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:01 PM (piMMO)
Because I didn't feel right not attending the presentation, I didn't think I should get the award. I withdrew myself from consideration.
The award was won by All-American Blogger, who goes by his actual name. That's the name you see there.
People are still saying "Ace" won. I didn't. All-American Blogger won.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:02 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 08, 2012 11:02 PM (bxiXv)
I suggest a Moron protection team, we certainly have the weapons. Getting to use them in NYC, that is the rub.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 08, 2012 11:04 PM (hXJOG)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:05 PM (DGIjM)
Thank you for your email. Your questions, comments, and views are very important to me.
I appreciate learning of your thoughts. As the 112th Congress moves forward on the many important challenges facing our Nation, I will certainly keep your views in mind.
In the meantime, I encourage you to take some time and familiarize yourself with my congressional web-page by visiting www.buchanan.house.gov. You can find additional information about current topics of debate in the Congress, information about Florida's 13th Congressional District, and other services and assistance my staff can offer to you. I hope that you find it useful.
Sincerely,
Vern Buchanan
Member of Congress
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 11:06 PM (Y+DPZ)
675 You deserved that award, ACE.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:05 PM (DGIjM)
Yeah, but unfortunately Ace is the rockstar that thinks his last album sucked. To reference his post from yesterday.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:07 PM (GULKT)
It angered me that much. I used to like Robert Mitchum. But crap, he was
menacing. Now I respect his talent. Too bad about the head hitting the
nightstand while drunk. May the Good Lord be merciful to him and me.
Posted by: Excretius at June 08, 2012 10:55 PM
Mr. Mitchum died from lung cancer. Bill Holden whacked his head and bled to death while drunk. Both fine actors.
Posted by: huerfano at June 08, 2012 11:07 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:02 PM (aw5Tx)
Ace, you still won with the Moron Nation, so there's that.
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 11:07 PM (lzvtR)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:02 PM
So you're Vanessa Williams?
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 11:07 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:02 PM (aw5Tx) You're ALL winners!
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 11:08 PM (uR3yC)
*******
I'm sure he's groaning Yeah. That's just f**king great.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:09 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 11:10 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:10 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:11 PM (aw5Tx)
said...
More news revealed today at the Liberal Grouch. Is HHHH a closeted
gay, using cell phone aps to cruise for "masculine chill buds." How
will this sit with Right Wing backers? STay tuned
(.....)
legalschnauzer said...
Are you referring to an attempt to post a comment on my blog? If so, I moderate comments, and they do not appear until I've had a chance to review them. That might explain the message.
Outing of suspected closeted gays; Approved.
Posted by: 13times at June 08, 2012 11:11 PM (h6XiD)
Twitchy makes it look like Duane is YOU!!!
Email, call, tweet him to be ready for BK, or his minions to go after him and his.
This is a SERIOUS Goat-Fu*k!
His life/credit/family could be endangered for this.
Humor me here, bro.
Posted by: ChrisP at June 08, 2012 11:12 PM (626PS)
Ace-good luck on getting Congress to address this.. excuse me if I do not hold my breath.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 08, 2012 11:13 PM (UTq/I)
You have been warned multiple times.
I have never heard of you fucking before. And all of a sudden you show up deciding to say helpful things for Brett Kimberlin's delusional victim claims.
Goodbye, Brett. Or Neal. Or whoever in Brett's little Manson Family of Terrorism you are.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:13 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 11:14 PM (b+Qud)
Posted by: Excretius at June 08, 2012 11:10 PM (O3R/2)
You would think someone would get the hint to shut their trap. Apparently you have a very thick skull. And guess its bye-bye Jimbo now.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:15 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 11:15 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Arbalest at June 08, 2012 11:16 PM (kHJ97)
I admire you for standing up to this thug; minor reservations about the efficacy of Silence aside, I think you are gutsy for putting yourself out there. And more than anything else, I respect you precisely for tolerating differences of opinion. Good job.
OK, that's as much leg humping as I can muster...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:16 PM (niZvt)
693 Twitchy fixed its post.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 11:15 PM (Iyg03)
Not exactly. They fixed it backwards. Removed the guy's name, but still have AoSHQ as winning the award.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:17 PM (GULKT)
I have had a no-threats, no-personal-information for as long as I've had the blog. I have repeatedly announced this policy.
And I repeat my promise:
I will not withhold your IP address from police or lawyers should they come asking.
I will do that for people who abide by the rules. But for those who repeatedly ignore my warnings to comport themselves civilly?
If you want to make trouble for me, allow me the return privilege of making trouble for you.
Your IP has been noted.
This is your final warning.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:17 PM (aw5Tx)
But I want to throw my support behind you Ace. I visit the site multiple times every day and I don't know why I'm still surprised when I know what's going on before everyone around me... You've got your finger on the pulse of what's really important in politics today. Makes me seem smarter, which I appreciate.
You arm me with information. Solid, verifiable information. And information is power.
I don't know who the award went home with and I don't care, because as far as I'm concerned, it's yours. Should name the thing after you.
If you ever want to come to LR and ridicule the Clinton Museum in person, give a shout.
Posted by: Oil Field Trash at June 08, 2012 11:18 PM (oZ6Js)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:18 PM (LoTJ2)
Good, because otherwise the guy who accepted the award was probably going to start getting 2:00 a.m. phonecalls himself.
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 11:19 PM (CQ1cz)
Posted by: Syndrome at June 08, 2012 11:19 PM (c16IJ)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 11:19 PM (Oye0P)
Oh, kwitcher damn lurkin' and stay awhile. Us Arkies gottsa stick together.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:20 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 11:20 PM (Iyg03)
Well... Maybe long, shapely ones... Like I'm sure you sport
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:21 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Oil Field Trash at June 08, 2012 11:18 PM (oZ6Js)
That would be a fun moron meetup.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:21 PM (DGIjM)
*****
I once stopped in Clinton to take a symbolic pee.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:22 PM (piMMO)
You have been warned multiple times. You have been warned civilly; now you are warned incivilly.
Go start your own fucking blog and you are entitled to all the tough-talk you can babble.
Goodbye.
And, I repeat: I have never once seen your handle in the comments, ever.
And yet here you are, repeatedly violating site policy, rather than supporting me -- the site owner whose side you're supposedly taking.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:22 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:23 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:23 PM (niZvt)
"Today at Nutroots 2012 conservative blogger Anne Sorock from Legal Insurrection confronted Democrat Faux-Indian Elizabeth Warren after her speech to the Crackpot Nation. Anne asked Warren, “Do you consider yourself a good role model for women of color?”
Bwhahaha
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:23 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: HH at June 08, 2012 11:23 PM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at June 08, 2012 11:23 PM (jmvrl)
Posted by: RightWingProf at June 08, 2012 11:24 PM (bHgwn)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:22 PM (aw5Tx)
That Excretius, was the commenter Jimbo. Which is pretty odd that he started doing all that crap after thinking comment 288 needed to be cleaned up.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:24 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 11:24 PM (FcR7P)
At one time, they were my best (and only good) feature! Two years of not being able to walk much or dance has taken a toll, and they are dead white, but they ain't bad for an old broad.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: t-bird at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (FcR7P)
I think they're called beandogs or something.
Posted by: indigo child at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (xXhWA)
Whose email address is supposedly "buttfuck@asshole.com." No, really, that's what's in the line.
And thank the Trollbuster who got on this, whoever you are, Lovely Trollbuster.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (Oye0P)
I usually just lurk because I feel like an uber-dork trying to hang with
the cool kids when I try to post. Just not as funny as the average
moron.
-------
Meh. If they put up with me, they'll put up with anyone.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 08, 2012 11:26 PM (c16IJ)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:27 PM (LoTJ2)
None of us are getting any younger, alas. But maybe we're getting wiser, enough to realize that neat people don't stop being neat just because time goes by?
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:27 PM (niZvt)
Further, because I can assure Jimbo that this WILL wind up in court, I will further instruct Jimbo that when Brett's lawyers demand his IP, I will be turning it over. Without a fight.
I'm not fighting a drop of sweat for him.
If you want to make trouble, get ready to have that trouble on your own head.
Here's how it goes:
YOU make the trouble, YOU get the trouble.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:28 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (Oye0P)
Commenter 900 will be banned.
But Commenter 901 will receive a year's free membership in AoSHQ Premium and the home version of the blog.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 11:29 PM (VDusq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:29 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:29 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at June 08, 2012 11:29 PM (jmvrl)
692 Oh, lord, are we supposed to put our real email addresses in that line?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:27 PM (LoTJ2)
Nah just don't piss off ace. Those ewoks took down an entire legion of the Empire's best troops afterall.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:30 PM (GULKT)
the cool kids when I try to post. Just not as funny as the average
moron.
But I want to throw my support behind you Ace. I visit
the site multiple times every day and I don't know why I'm still
surprised when I know what's going on before everyone around me...
You've got your finger on the pulse of what's really important in
politics today. Makes me seem smarter, which I appreciate.
You arm me with information. Solid, verifiable information. And information is power
That's cool. True too. I used to amaze my friends with info the MBM forgot to report.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 11:30 PM (Iyg03)
You ready to buckle up and enjoy the ride, yourself?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:30 PM (aw5Tx)
Are all you awesome gardeners so inherently charming, sir?? *Bats eyes shamelessly*
Say, does Mrs Cool Czech have her own recipe for bulgogi, by chance?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (LoTJ2)
so when I was traveling, one of the staff ladies at the convention said I looked like Alan from Two and a Half Men. Having never seen the show I took it as a compliment that I was compared to an actor but now that I read the bio on the character, ... , well, a different feeling has come over me.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (LK3ef)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (CQ1cz)
Sounds like the web address for the home version of AoSHQ...
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (jmvrl)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:27 PM (LoTJ2)
I never even questioned it. I put my real one.
Geesh.. how boring am I when I dont even try to get away with a fake email on a blog.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (LK3ef)
Could have been worse. She could have said you looked like the kid.
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:33 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 08, 2012 11:33 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:34 PM (LoTJ2)
Look at it this way: Saturday 9JUN12 will go down in Moron history as the day that had two ONOT's
g'evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 08, 2012 11:34 PM (JMmQ9)
690 Comment 900, too. That guy's trouble.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 08, 2012 11:25 PM (Oye0P)
Commenter 900 will be banned.
But Commenter 901 will receive a year's free membership in AoSHQ Premium and the home version of the blog.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 11:29 PM
Keep your eye on comment 1066 .. he looks real shifty and like he's up to no good
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 11:35 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Spanx mcJaxley at June 08, 2012 11:35 PM (u1bVw)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:27 PM (LoTJ2)
I believe this came up a year or two back but if you don't include a real email address, then there's no way for us to contact you offline. Which means that instead of a private chastening over a transgression, you may just get banned.
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 11:36 PM (VDusq)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (CQ1cz)
She ran away. Video over at Gateway.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:36 PM (DGIjM)
Aaron Walker was ARRESTED because Brett Kimberlin convinced a senile inept judge that he had "incited" "death threats" against him.
STOP
FUCKING
AROUND
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:37 PM (aw5Tx)
I'm 43, which is beyond prime child-bearing years, plus I'm a guy.
Also, I drink and smoke (though, thanks to the e-cigarette [and, I'm sure, also partially due to your pimping thereof], I've cut down the consumption of real cigarettes about in half), and I can't see me cutting that shiat out for a solid stretch of nine months running.
Just put me down for helping with the back hair braiding, I guess.
Posted by: Lewis at June 08, 2012 11:37 PM (UB1pV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 08, 2012 11:38 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:32 PM (DGIjM)
-----------
I used my real one too. ....Never even occurred to me to use a fake one.
So I guess I'm boring too.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 11:38 PM (eFqqI)
Where do I go to get those 0.75 seconds of my life back?
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at June 08, 2012 11:38 PM (jmvrl)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:39 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Betty McStinkyPants at June 08, 2012 11:39 PM (u1bVw)
So I guess I'm boring too.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 11:38 PM (eFqqI)
Our moms would be so proud of us.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 08, 2012 11:39 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:40 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 08, 2012 11:35 PM (Y+DPZ)
Doing the best I can here, but there's aproblem........
Posted by: Harold Godwin at June 08, 2012 11:40 PM (wJliR)
Well. everyone else weighed in, so here is one more.
Ace, you are a good person. If it's needed, you have my full support. In whatever way needed.
Good nite, good people. And most especially now, Stay Safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 08, 2012 11:40 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Head M F in Charge at June 08, 2012 11:40 PM (u1bVw)
Are all you awesome gardeners so inherently charming, sir?? *Bats eyes shamelessly*
Say, does Mrs Cool Czech have her own recipe for bulgogi, by chance?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:31 PM (LoTJ2)
why, yes, she does:
1lbs of flank steak, cut into 2 inch long thin strips.
Marinade:
Half a cup of soy sauce
3 tbs of sesame oil
3 tbs sugar
3 cloves of garlic, crushed
1 tbs sesame seed
1 tbs cooking sherry
Marinade the meat in a fridge overnight. While you can pan fry, DON'T: the real flavor comes thru if you barbecue the meant over a real fire.
The correct way to eat it is to wrap the meat in a lettuce leaf with rice, some oil with salt in it, and a bit ofKorean hot red bean padte sauce. But... It's good even without all that.
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 08, 2012 11:36 PM (VDusq)
---------
Oooo.....a private chastening,you say. ....That sounds kind of hawt.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 11:41 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:41 PM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Why so Socialist? at June 08, 2012 11:42 PM (u1bVw)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:42 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 08, 2012 11:43 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 08, 2012 11:43 PM (b+Qud)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at June 08, 2012 11:43 PM (jmvrl)
Posted by: Punchy McPunchPants at June 08, 2012 11:43 PM (u1bVw)
We're only up to 674!
Futurecrime? This is awesome!
I knew you were going to say that, Cool Czech.
BTW, you might not want to make that pussy comment on #727. It will be in very poor taste and embarrass Ace.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2012 11:44 PM (nrW1y)
I also want to echo what others have offered here as well. If you ever
find yourself in SE Wisconsin/Milwaukee area, contact me through my
email and I will be thrilled to take you out to dinner. However, please
wait till after September. My son will be home from Kosovo by then
and he would love to join us. He's made your blog the first one he
checks everyday since his second tour in Iraq.
Posted by: mama winger at June 08, 2012 08:39 PM (P6QsQ)
I would love to drive up from Chicago and join you. And I am buying.
Posted by: FOWFan at June 08, 2012 11:44 PM (Eixkq)
That's right, "Feh," I say!
Posted by: Lewis at June 08, 2012 11:44 PM (UB1pV)
Posted by: buzzion at June 08, 2012 11:45 PM (GULKT)
The Man said it was a Day of Silence. If you check your secret spy de-coder ring, a day is twenty-four hours.
Try this: can you hold your breath for fifteen minutes?
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 08, 2012 11:45 PM (JMmQ9)
Aaron Walker was
ARRESTED because Brett Kimberlin convinced a senile inept judge that he
had "incited" "death threats" against him.
STOP
FUCKING
AROUND
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:37 PM (aw5Tx)
Ace what do you propose we do? If its money I got it. I'm prepared to con tribute hundreds or thousands to our cause. Point the way Head Ewok and I will follow.
Posted by: cm9000 at June 08, 2012 11:45 PM (lzvtR)
I suppose the polite thing for me to do to thank you is offer my leg up for your pleasure, but I feel rather bashful this evening.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:45 PM (LoTJ2)
Well the very first thing I propose, which I had hoped didn't even need asking, is to respect site policy, and when the crowd starts telling you to chill, CHILL.
The second thing is to write to Congress.
I know I know more about this than you: I have deliberately limited my Kimberlin blogging to not do too much of it, so that he cannot claim harassment.
But believe me when I tell you: 1, his is dangerous, 2, he is hyperlitigious, and 3, he framed a man for a felony, and then, when that failed (there was videotape disproving his assault charge), he got him arrested for "inciting" "death threats."
I am very close to disabling comments altogether.
I am very, very close.
I do not need the headaches that a few assholes are causing for me.
I do not want to, or have the time to, stay up all goddamn night patrolling every comment.
I am under a huge strain.
Please do not add to that strain.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:49 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: b#ttfuck@asshole.jp at June 08, 2012 11:49 PM (nrW1y)
When you win you say even less.
Posted by: coach at June 08, 2012 11:52 PM (D7lJF)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2012 11:52 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:54 PM (aw5Tx)
Frank jokes), and I'm not joking when I say that you and the moron community have
played a big role in keeping me sane during the SCOAMF regime. Thank you.
I'm sorry that you and your family have to put up with these shitheels. You are in my prayers.
Posted by: Armando at June 08, 2012 11:54 PM (lyStv)
Let's see what he does.
Posted by: Ray at June 08, 2012 11:56 PM (qi0Hm)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2012 11:56 PM (nrW1y)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 08, 2012 11:56 PM (LoTJ2)
I am so, so sick of the attitude of trash that "No one's gonna tell me what to do."
Really? I just told you a guy got arrested for "inciting" "death threats," and you want to play cute about something that isn't explicitly a threat? Just sort of a vague "i would shed no tears"?
No, it's not a threat. But brett kimberlin does not need bona fide threats. He only needs a PRETEXT.
So why would someone get all Macho over this?
I don't know.
All I can say is, I mean it with fucking Jimbo. He was warned multiple times and decided he was the tough-man who wouldn't be pushed around.
When they come looking for his IP, they'll have it.
And then Jimbo can decide if his tough-talk was worth it
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:57 PM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: chemjeff at June 08, 2012 11:58 PM (LK3ef)
We are currently under the rule of an administration that wages lawfare against it's own states....against it's own citizens.
So, your concern for caution is well founded.
Stay safe.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 11:58 PM (eFqqI)
Posted by: Armando at June 08, 2012 11:58 PM (lyStv)
Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 08, 2012 11:59 PM (DQhAB)
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:49 PM (aw5Tx) I'd volunteer for a brief tourin the troll buster brigade if it'd help you get some rest.
Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2012 11:59 PM (uR3yC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 09, 2012 12:00 AM (piMMO)
Safe House, with Denzel Washington and Ryan Reynolds?
Does not suck.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at June 09, 2012 12:00 AM (DQhAB)
I now doubt that. Not only what Brett Kimberlin does is evil, I'm willing to bet he knows damn well it's evil and he enjoys it, for evil's sake.
Posted by: Tunkhannock at June 09, 2012 12:02 AM (TLjqs)
calling for a DOJ investigation into the SWATing incidents, and urging
him to 1. Kimberlin's convictions into the Congressional record, 2.
launch an investigation into Kimberlin's "charities," and 3. introduce a
Federal anti-SLAPP law as described in the post.
***
When he sent that letter, we did the same as we had for Chambliss: Thanked him on twitter and 'followed' him.
You can't imagine how surprised I was when he 'followed' me in return.
What?! Does that mean I can't tell dirty jokes now?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 09, 2012 12:04 AM (piMMO)
Ace, if it helps you relax, I had a rack of lamb tonight sosucculentand tender that I would fight my way through 100 miles of Taliban-controlled territory just to suck the dick of the sheepherder who raised it, in thanks.
That's some Terry Fox shit. That's all about heart and TRIUMPH.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:06 AM (JDIKC)
I don't even know who "Jimbo" is. Has he caused trouble before? I associate that name with trouble.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2012 11:39 PM
Me too
Posted by: Principal Skinner at June 09, 2012 12:06 AM (Y+DPZ)
Even Benjamin Franklin enjoyed dirty jokes, NDH.
They're congress criters, not saints.
Although....if Rick Santorum starts following your tweets, you might have to clean it up.
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:09 AM (eFqqI)
Posted by: cm9000 at June 09, 2012 12:11 AM (lzvtR)
Jeez this is some serious shit ace. I wish you well and I wish people would understand the seriousness of this. Scarey shit. People have no idea.
Posted by: Bosk at June 09, 2012 12:11 AM (RRoh3)
So, your concern for caution is well founded.
Stay safe.
Posted by: wheatie at June 08, 2012 11:58 PM (eFqqI)
This x (an arbitrarily large number).
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:12 AM (bxiXv)
Not to belittle the issue, but it is NOT a Federal issue. Stop looking to DC for the solution to all your problems. That's the mind-set that I thought we were trying to break.
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at June 09, 2012 12:14 AM (rz0yi)
Even in cases where the Constitution expressly provides for federal jurisdiction in lawsuits? Like where it specifically says a citizen suing a citizen of a foreign state may remove that case to federal court?!!?
Really?!!
Tell me more things it says on your Little List of Simple Things To Remember Which Aren't True, But It Makes You Feel Important To Say Them.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:16 AM (aw5Tx)
Hell man, it was Breitbart!
And the first one ever!
shit...
Posted by: HH at June 09, 2012 12:18 AM (v+ExF)
Bloggers....are being targeted.
Bloggers....blog on the internet.
The internet is....across state lines.
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:21 AM (eFqqI)
Don't make things worse for ACE and yourselves, just act accordingly and things will play out.
Posted by: Knightbrigade at June 09, 2012 12:25 AM (Q76p7)
Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at June 09, 2012 12:25 AM (IZy5Q)
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:26 AM (eFqqI)
It's sad to lose you, but you cannot control yourself.
Goodbye.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:26 AM (aw5Tx)
I'm think he's popped off on the ont & pissed people off.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 09, 2012 12:27 AM (QkPpM)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:27 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:28 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:29 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2012 12:29 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:31 AM (JDIKC)
Would hate for it to be "self-immolation by comment."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:32 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:32 AM (c9Ivb)
But until then, please warn people. I am now obligated to ban people without favor or prejudice.
It will be instant, and there will be no questions about it.
I am tired of telling people how fucking shit-serious this is and seeing them blow me off left and right because they're drunk or just fucking ignorant and stupid.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:32 AM (aw5Tx)
Ace: You did the right thing. The fight is better served because of it. Stay safe and keep writing!
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 09, 2012 12:32 AM (A2LXE)
Dude. Arhooley?
Give her a 10 minute game misconduct, the gateand a five game suspension.
Jimbo has caused you grief before, if you need to know when ask Buzzion, he's the keeper of the chronicles as far as I can tell.
Arhooley is a good shit. Probably just hit the valu-rite a bit too hard and the enter button a bit too fast.
or not. it's your show.
I'd close this thread down though.
It's a Friday night. Get out there and find an unsuspecting Hobo to help take the edge off.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2012 12:33 AM (uR3yC)
785 I checked the history and saw various hashes for arhooley - not sure how to tell if this was the same - unless Ace could tell via other means. Would hate for it to be "self-immolation by comment."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:32 AM (bxiXv)
That's why you're better off searching for the hash. That does appear to be her most recent hash.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2012 12:34 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:36 AM (c9Ivb)
I should expose myself to legal peril for someone who didn't read my last ten warnings that this is serious?
Why should I do that?
The fact that I only warn Arhooey could be interpreted by a vexatious litigant as condoning it.
I am tired.
I am so tired, I cannot explain it
STOP FUCKING WITH MY FUCKING LIFE
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:36 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Knightbrigade at June 09, 2012 12:36 AM (Q76p7)
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:37 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 09, 2012 12:38 AM (QkPpM)
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2012 12:34 AM (GULKT)
I normally do.
Did the other comments seem per usual?
I always suspect socks when someone seems that far out of character.
Then again, garrett may be right, it may have been wood alky or whatever. I suspect that was Jimbo's issue as well, it always seemed to be Saturday night.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:38 AM (bxiXv)
I am shutting down comments for the site. I don't care if the site crashes and burns. I cannot keep up with this.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:38 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:39 AM (c9Ivb)
Us assholes will still be here in the afternoon when you get up.
Posted by: HH at June 09, 2012 12:39 AM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Running Hobo at June 09, 2012 12:40 AM (l1oyw)
@791
Thanks. In a clash of the narcissists, my money's on BJ Clinton every time. Barry may be an ego enthusiast, but Bubba is a fucking professional.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:40 AM (JDIKC)
Do what you have to do, but PLEASE, get yourself some rest.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 09, 2012 12:41 AM (LoTJ2)
We are a kooky bunch. Some kookier than others.
I hope Ace finds the "lock thread" button, might be useful to generically lock older threads at some point as well (like he needs more technical issues).
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 12:41 AM (bxiXv)
I should expose myself to legal peril for someone who didn't read my last ten warnings that this is serious?
I didn't catch one other comment from her in the entire thread...although I have been in and out, I think I've read all of the comments.
I just think she might have posted before reading your warnings.
Like I said, it's your show. Do what you need to do.
Hate to lose a good moron, though.
We'll lose more tonight if the thread is left open. Plus, you're going to lose your shit having to babysit it / us.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2012 12:43 AM (uR3yC)
I was told that there would be no hygiene on this blog.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:44 AM (c9Ivb)
Do what you have to do to stay safe, and thanks. This is an amazing community you have attracted.
(re-lurking)
Posted by: Piercello at June 09, 2012 12:44 AM (L4NUg)
I am breaking down. The people who "support" me are doing their level best to put me in legal jeopardy.
I am shutting down comments for the site. I don't care if the site crashes and burns. I cannot keep up with this.
<<>>
Dude, call your cob-loggers and trollbusters. Get em on the case. They'll stand watch for you. You do t have to do everything yourself.
You need some emotional distance.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:44 AM (JDIKC)
Okay, let me get this straight. You want me to contact Patty Murry and ask her to act in a way that would actually be good for the country?
Patty Murry. Hmmm that would mean I would have to acknowledge she wonre-election.
Maybe tomorrow.
Posted by: petunia at June 09, 2012 12:45 AM (hgrmi)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:45 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 09, 2012 12:45 AM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: TB3K at June 09, 2012 12:45 AM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Empire of Jeffat June 09, 2012 12:44 AM (JDIKC)
The Hash gods continue to smile upon you.
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2012 12:46 AM (uR3yC)
Posted by: HH at June 09, 2012 12:46 AM (v+ExF)
how many times before have I warned people?
Did she read what this post is about? Hyperlitigious lefty looking to sue bloggers out of existence?
Does she care? Or is at just booze and yucks for her?
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:47 AM (aw5Tx)
This is why it's especially perilous for Ace to even be puting up any threads about this guy.....for the Moron Horde to comment on.
Writing about someone like this guy BK....is like throwing out fresh meat, to a bunch of pirates[Arrr!]....and then expecting them to say polite things about the scurvy knave.
Acehas everyright to be nervous about it.
I mean, I love the Horde....don't get me wrong.
But which otherconservative blogger out there has the samesort of rowdy fans that Ace does?
I can't think of one.
So it really takes big ones, for him to be even bringing up anything about this guy.....knowing what is bound to happen.
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:47 AM (eFqqI)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:48 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Ozymandias at June 09, 2012 12:49 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: Adjoran at June 09, 2012 12:50 AM (VfmLu)
I am breaking down. The people who "support" me are doing their level best to put me in legal jeopardy.
I am shutting down comments for the site. I don't care if the site crashes and burns. I cannot keep up with this.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:38 AM (aw5Tx)
Did arhooley really say something ban-worthy? Color me shocked, What The Fuck?
Posted by: cm9000 at June 09, 2012 12:51 AM (lzvtR)
so I have two choices, I can either disable comments entirely, or I can abandon people who are fighting for their rights, and just ignore this situation?
Is there a third option? Wherein people respect my wishes, obey the rules, and demonstrate an ounce of common sense?
If those are the choices, I don't know which I'd pick. of the first two.
You think I should give up on this fight just because some drunks can't, or won't, control themselves and behave responsibly?
That seems pretty selfish.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:51 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Kenny Blankenship at June 09, 2012 12:51 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:47 AM (eFqqI)
Its just retarded for people to do this. I mean its obvious we're quite capable of censoring ourselves on jokes. Its not as if people are posting crap that would send the secret service after them. But it seems like going "Hey don't do this shit, ace is warning us" and they think it somehow doesn't apply and isn't serious.
Posted by: buzzion at June 09, 2012 12:51 AM (GULKT)
Breitbart: 70 House Members to Call on DOJ to Investigate SWATting of Conservative Bloggers
http://tinyurl.com/792y4bc
Posted by: TB3K at June 09, 2012 12:52 AM (Iyg03)
I'd hate to see comments go, but understand how living feeling like a legal sword is hanging over your head is overwhelming.
As others have mentioned maybe locking comments for these threads and posting a sidebar commenting policy would help solve the issue.
Posted by: someone at June 09, 2012 12:53 AM (bqjJT)
I love the tough guys.
Hey assholes, shut the fuck up.
I know how tough everyone is. Go tell people on other blogs how tough you are.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:53 AM (aw5Tx)
Ace, this blog is already bigger than a one-man show. Time to get that gagglefuck of cob-loggers, sidebar shitbags and third-string pencilnecks organized and policing the joint around the clock for the next little while.
Or shut the place down and let this convict get his way.
You have the resources. Use em.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:53 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 12:55 AM (c9Ivb)
I protest.
Posted by: Sidebar Shitbag at June 09, 2012 12:56 AM (Iyg03)
I do not know when they will be back up.
Congratulations, you broke me.
But at least I can sleep.
Posted by: ace at June 09, 2012 12:56 AM (aw5Tx)
Posted by: Knightbrigade at June 09, 2012 12:56 AM (Q76p7)
If this scurvy knave decides to sue you, haul your ass into court....and use your blog threads as some sort of 'evidence' that you are 'harrassing' him...
Then...heh, heh...let the judge read about how hard you worked to keep it civil.
So you're already handling it the right way, Ace.
But....it's late.
If you can get one of the cobloggers to take over the patroling....do it.
Try and get some much needed rest.
Or just lock up this thread, if you can't get someone to take over.
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 12:57 AM (eFqqI)
Then get the cobs to start helping you, like EoJ said, a 24/7 patrol.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 09, 2012 12:58 AM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2012 12:58 AM (uR3yC)
@818
Not helping. Especially that last paragraph. Has everyone been sucking on the stupid juice? Fuxk, if I'm drunk and can control my shit I really don't see how it would be difficult for your average Moron.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:58 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: kbdabear at June 09, 2012 12:59 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 09, 2012 01:01 AM (DGIjM)
sweet dreams Ace
Posted by: chemjeff at June 09, 2012 01:01 AM (LK3ef)
I have asked pixy to disable the comments for the entire site.
I do not know when they will be back up.
Congratulations, you broke me.
But at least I can sleep.<<<>
I GOT NO PLACE ELSE TO GOOOOOO!!!
***hamster squeaking***
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 01:01 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 12:58 AM (JDIKC)
In all fairness, the average Moron doesn't have the Mighty J-DIKC
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 09, 2012 01:01 AM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2012 01:02 AM (uR3yC)
Posted by: Sidebar Shitbag at June 09, 2012 01:02 AM (Iyg03)
Then assume that much and more is being threatened and used against Ace
If you want to play vigilante, go to your cable's On Demand and select "Death Wish"
Posted by: kbdabear at June 09, 2012 01:02 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (DGIjM)
***hamster squeaking***
Posted by: Empire of Jeff
We could go over to your place and wreck the joint?
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (c9Ivb)
OT: Has there been any discussion about a counter suit for intentional interference with contractual relations? See Wikipedia: "An early, perhaps the earliest, instance of recognition of this tort occurred in Garret v. Taylor,
79 Eng. Rep. 485 (K.B. 1620). In that case, the defendant drove
customers away from the plaintiff’s quarry by threatening them with
mayhem and also threatening to “vex [them] with suits.” The King's Bench
court said that “the defendant threatened violence to the extent of
committing an assault upon ... customers of the plaintiff ... whereupon
‘they all desisted from buying.’’"
Posted by: slysquire at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (baOaV)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (bxiXv)
It's ASS that you've had to be here tonight fighting off the bullshit.
Along with the co-bloggers, there has to be a few folks you can trust to take care of things when you're not around.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (piMMO)
So...this minx formatting only allows commenting to be....*ON*...or..*OFF*....for the whole blog?
I didn't know that....damn.
That makes it tough.
Posted by: wheatie at June 09, 2012 01:03 AM (eFqqI)
Posted by: richard gere maybe at June 09, 2012 01:05 AM (nrW1y)
Posted by: HH at June 09, 2012 01:05 AM (v+ExF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 09, 2012 01:06 AM (piMMO)
@844
Don't take the plastic off the sofa or my old lady will beat you with a fuckin wooden spoon.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 09, 2012 01:09 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 09, 2012 01:09 AM (LoTJ2)
Go on...
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 01:13 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 09, 2012 01:14 AM (2yngH)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Hey! That was aimed at me. I just know it was.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 01:14 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 01:15 AM (c9Ivb)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 09, 2012 01:15 AM (LoTJ2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 09, 2012 01:15 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at June 09, 2012 01:15 AM (q1qCt)
Hi Pixy!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
If you were serious about being selective then you should have aimed it at me.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 09, 2012 01:16 AM (c9Ivb)
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Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)