Saxby Chambliss Writes Letter To Holder Asking Him To Investigate SWATtings and Attempts to Chill Free Speech

Although I still plan on urging a letter writing campaign to Congress -- to make them all aware of the urgency of the situation -- it must be noted that they are beginning to act, and should be praised for doing so.

So, if you write a letter, be polite: Many don't know yet, but the ones who do are beginning to act.

Below the fold, Saxby Chamblss' press release and letter to Eric Holder.



Saxby Chambliss

UNITED STATES SENATOR

416 Russell Senate Office Building

GEORGIA

Washington, D.C. 20510-1501


202-224-3521


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Chambliss press office

Wednesday, June 6, 2012 202-224-3423


Chambliss Demands Inquiry Into Attacks Against Conservative Commentators

Sends letter to Attorney General Eric Holder about recent “SWAT-ting” incidents


WASHINGTON – Today, U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder regarding recent reports that several conservative political commentators have been targeted with harassing and frightening actions. Chambliss demanded that Holder examine these cases to determine if federal laws have been violated.

These dangerous hoaxes, also known as “SWAT-ting,” occur when a perpetrator contacts local police to report a violent incident at a target’s home. These callers are believed to utilize voice-over IP (VOIP) and other less-traditional telecommunications methods to make the call appear to come from the target residence and to hide the caller’s true identity.

In response, a dispatcher sends a SWAT team or other police unit in a heightened state of readiness to the unsuspecting target’s residence. Targets only learn of these false reports when a large police presence descends upon their homes.

In the letter, Chambliss states that “Any potentially criminal action that incites fear, seeks to silence a dissenting opinion, and collaterally wastes the resources of law enforcement should be given close scrutiny at all levels… Regardless of any potential political differences that may exist, threats and intimidation have no place in our national political discourse. Those who choose to enter into that political discourse should not have to worry about potential threats to their or their family’s safety.”

A copy of the signed letter can be viewed here, and the full text of the letter is below:

June 5, 2012

The Honorable Eric Holder

Attorney General

Department of Justice

950 Pennsylvania Avenue. NW, Suite 5111

Washington, DC 20530-0009


Dear Attorney General Holder:

I am writing with concern regarding recent reports that several members of the community of online political commentators have been targeted with harassing and frightening actions. Any potentially criminal action that incites fear, seeks to silence a dissenting opinion, and collaterally wastes the resources of law enforcement should be given close scrutiny at all levels.

According to these individuals' reports, these dangerous hoaxes, also known as "SWAT-ting," have a perpetrator contacting a local police department to report some type of violent incident at the home of the target. It is believed that these callers utilize some of the less traditional telecommunications methods, including voice over IP (VOIP) to make the call appear as though it is coming from the target residence and to better hide the true identity of the caller.

In response, a dispatcher then sends a large number of understandably anxious police units, in a heightened state of readiness, to the home of the still unsuspecting target. The first that the target or their unsuspecting family learns of this false report to law enforcement is when they are shocked to see an abnormal police presence descending on their residence.

The use of SWAT-ting as a harassment tool is apparently not new, but its use as a tool for targeting political speech appears to be a more recent development. During the last year, some of the more widely reported cases of SWAT-ting have taken place against blog operators across the country, including in Georgia. The emerging pattern is both disturbing and dangerous.

While these incidences are currently small in number, and have fortunately not led to any accidental physical harm, they are extremely concerning. The perpetrators appear to be targeting individuals who are vigorously exercising their First Amendment rights to political speech. As you know, these reported efforts to intimidate those who choose to enter the political forum and express their opinions are in conflict with the founding principles of our nation.

Regardless of any potential political differences that may exist, threats and intimidation have no place in our national political discourse. Those who choose to enter into that political discourse should not have to worry about potential threats to their or their family's safety.

While I am certain that local law enforcement is reviewing each of these instances, I am asking you to please look into each of these cases as well to determine if any federal laws may have been violated. Future targets of SWAT-ting, whether engaged in political speech or not, may not be so fortunate as to escape physical harm.

I appreciate your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your response no later than June 29, 2012. Please feel free to contact my office with any questions or comments that you may have.


Posted by: Ace at 04:08 PM



Comments

1 And Bill Press is a stark raving lunatic moonbat.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:09 PM (eMRto)

2 I'm Saxby and I know it.

Posted by: Saxby at June 06, 2012 04:10 PM (MMC8r)

3 Good job, Senator!

Posted by: Y-not at June 06, 2012 04:10 PM (5H6zj)

4 Great news!

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at June 06, 2012 04:10 PM (iKSAz)

5 Holy underwear! Conservative bloggers threatened? Wingnuts harassed? We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We
must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately!
Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Eric Holder LePetomaine at June 06, 2012 04:10 PM (QKKT0)

6 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:11 PM (Xb3hu)

7 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:11 PM (8y9MW)

8 threats and intimidation have no place in our national political discourse.

It's not threats and intimidation... if you agree with it!!!!

Posted by: G. Costanza Holder at June 06, 2012 04:11 PM (PFhKW)

9 Good,when a Senator demands action it can't be ignored.Should be a bipartisan demand.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:11 PM (Xb3hu)

10
I'd also like to see the insistence of a serious investigation in all the death threats to Gov Walker and Lt Gov Fleekfish or whatever her name is.


Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:11 PM (eMRto)

11 I'm too Saxby for this post, too Saxby for this post...

Posted by: Saxby at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (8y9MW)

12
The honourable Eric Holder?
That's a joke, right?

Posted by: garrett at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (dn6e/)

13 1 Yeah,Tweeted about that last night.What a sucker of cock.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (Xb3hu)

14
By 'political commentators,' do you mean on the left or right?

It matters.

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (/x4oj)

15 Yeh, Holder will get right on that

And O/T

Reporter violated NYT ethics code with false Fast and Furious story

http://tinyurl.com/886bd5r

Posted by: kbdabear at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (Y+DPZ)

16 I sincerely believe this will amount to a very small hill- nay- a pile of beans.

But good on him for showing willing, at least.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:12 PM (8y9MW)

17 The same Eric Holder that gave the Black Panthers a pass on voter intimidation?


Yeah... not holding my breath.

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 06, 2012 04:13 PM (8sCoq)

18 Good, it's a start. While he's at it, toss some of those cases of voter fraud and poll incidents at him. Do it now, while Obama and Holder are still in office, and at their weakest. Politically, it's better to do this now than during a "friendlier" Administration's term.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:13 PM (TOk1P)

19 I had just sent a letter to Cathy McMorris-Rodgers today to look into this and as you suggested, to read Kimber**** into the congressional record. Perhaps this situation will not fall on deaf ears.

Posted by: Derak at June 06, 2012 04:14 PM (VEhDR)

20 OT about that D-Day letter to the troops by Ike.Go through it and cross out everything that is politically incorrect by today's standdards.Today's standards are fucked up.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:14 PM (Xb3hu)

21
Ace, is there someway you can prevent someone from using the name "Andrew Breitbart" as a handle?

That cocksucking troll, maybe eggmcmuffin, keeps using that name.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:14 PM (eMRto)

22 Do we still have to clam up tomorrow?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2012 04:15 PM (0vc7K)

23 At least maybe now the story will move from blogosphere to the big boys of Talk Radio who haven't touched this story yet

Maybe even Drudge will notice

The MBM? Look for stories that twist it as "both sides" and the need for conservatives to "tone it down"

Posted by: kbdabear at June 06, 2012 04:15 PM (Y+DPZ)

24 I mean Friday.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2012 04:15 PM (0vc7K)

25 Regardless of any potential political differences that may exist, threats and intimidation have no place in our national political discourse.

-------

Now see, that's the thing. The people doing this are employed by Mr. Holder's party and they are doing it entirely because of political differences pursued with ruthless abandon.

DOJ will do nothing. Or maybe charge the victims with a federal crime of some sort. Damaging a federal agent's rifle butt with their face or something.

Posted by: Jim Lahey at June 06, 2012 04:16 PM (w41GQ)

26
Okay, I've said things about my Senator Saxby Chambliss before now (mostly about "reaching across the isle" *spit*), but if he keeps the pressure on and gets some tangable results I'll take it all back.

Posted by: Warthog at June 06, 2012 04:16 PM (WDySP)

27 Chamnliss for Veep! Just kidding, kinda.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 06, 2012 04:16 PM (HethX)

28 Holder's going to fold this letter up and use it to wipe his ass the next time he takes a shit.

Good try though...

Posted by: EC at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (GQ8sn)

29 The Honorable Eric Holder

Posted by: Bitter Irony at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (YCJ3T)

30 These disturbing stories on SWAT-ing are the result of uncivil tea partiers who drive progressives into anger

You teabaggers need to tone it down, see what you made us do?

Posted by: The MBM at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (Y+DPZ)

31 and… What does this have to do with the First Amendment? Not that any knucklehead really cares about the First Amendment.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (/Nc0K)

32 The DOJ has been changed to the DOSJ (Department of Social Justice). We find that in the cases thus far there is no crime since the people targeted are racists.

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (tf9Ne)

33 28 -

Sometimes it's about putting something in front of your opponent and making him act as he does. Either that or he moves on it. It's a win either way.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (TOk1P)

34 Anyway, thank you Sen. Chambliss

How about some support from those other GOP senators who want our votes?

Posted by: kbdabear at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (Y+DPZ)

35
Punish this fucker at #31.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (eMRto)

36 >>27 Chamnliss for Veep! Just kidding, kinda.

Good case made for John Kyl by a guy over at Ricochet.

ricochet.com/main-feed/Thinking-About-the-Vice-Presidency

Posted by: Y-not at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (5H6zj)

37 Elsewhere in this story, AW has hired a lawyer that's not him and picked up Eugene Volokh (of the Volokh Conspiracy) as an unpaid legal consultant. That's some pretty good firepower right there.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (tqwMN)

38 31

Knock it off douchebag.

You aren't fit to wipe Andrew's shoes.

Posted by: mpfs at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (iYbLN)

39 "Punish this fucker at #31.
Posted by: Soothsayer"

An "ignore" feature would be nice right now...

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (SBBF5)

40 29 -

It's about the office, not the person holding it. And again, show the holder (pun intended) to not be up to the standards set for the office.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (TOk1P)

41
Posted by: Eggmcmuffin at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (/Nc0K)


hey, dink, how was your night, last night?

hahahahahaahhaahahaha, you fag-got

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (eMRto)

42 31
and… What does this have to do with the First Amendment? Not that any knucklehead really cares about the First Amendment.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:17 PM (/Nc0K)
Suck your hash tag, you douchebag sockpuppeter


Posted by: kbdabear at June 06, 2012 04:20 PM (Y+DPZ)

43 Ace, is there someway you can prevent someone from using the name "Andrew Breitbart" as a handle?

That cocksucking troll, maybe eggmcmuffin, keeps using that name.


****

He/She is a prick, and the act is disrespectful and makes us want to punch him/her in their fat fu*king face, but it really doesn't do any harm unless we allow it to do so.

As difficult as it may be, ignoring a troll is the worst possible outcome for them, regardless of how desperate their bullshit may be.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:21 PM (piMMO)

44 Sometimes it's about putting something in front of your opponent and
making him act as he does. Either that or he moves on it. It's a win
either way.


I hear you. It's at least getting this Kimberlin asshole on the radar screens of Congress, so that's that. Holder won't do shit, until we find a way to make it unavoidable for him to not act. I'm afraid that means someone getting hurt by a SWAT-ing.

Posted by: EC at June 06, 2012 04:21 PM (GQ8sn)

45 I'd also like to see the insistence of a serious investigation in all the death threats to Gov Walker and Lt Gov Fleekfish or whatever her name is.
The one tweet where someone claimed to have already paid for a hit was terrifying. Also, and I know I'm probably alone in this, I didn't find the video of Barrett getting slapped all that funny. Okay, it is funny but it's also terrifying. Close enough to slap is close enough to stab. It's like when that reporter threw a shoe at Pres. Bush. Ha ha ha funny but it could very easily have been something other than a shoe.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 06, 2012 04:21 PM (VtjlW)

46 How about some support from those other GOP senators who want our votes?
-----
You'd think Orrin Hatch (who actually had a run in with the convicted bomber) would be front and center in this, but unfortunately some people decided he wasn't the Hill to Die on so I think he's got it sewn up.

Posted by: Y-not at June 06, 2012 04:21 PM (5H6zj)

47 I'm afraid that means someone getting hurt by a SWAT-ing.

Replying to myself...

Ofcourse if that should ever come to pass, then it's war. Fucking war.

Posted by: EC at June 06, 2012 04:22 PM (GQ8sn)

48 He is probably reacting to Eric Ericson of Red State fame. Chambliss is kinda like our own Lindsay Graham. He goes hot and cold in alternating years.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2012 04:22 PM (YdQQY)

49 If ya really want me, and ya think I'm Saxby, c'mon lady let me know!

Posted by: Rod Saxby at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (kZVsz)

50 Sometimes it's about putting something in front of your opponent and making him act as he does. Either that or he moves on it. It's a win either way.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (TOk1P)


^^^ This. It wasa logical first step. At least it's out there.

Posted by: ErikW at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (BYKg1)

51 Good for Chambliss. It's about time someone stepped forward and, given his prior interactions with BK, you might have thought Hatch would have done something.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (piMMO)

52 The same Eric Holder that gave the Black Panthers a pass on voter intimidation?

Given Congressman Issa's very recent revelation about Fand F wiretaps, Holder would be a complete idiot to do anything other than immediately put 50+ agents to work on investigating Sen. Chambliss' concern, and thendo anything less thanprovide the stuffed and mounted packages of Bret Kimberlin and Friends to Congress ... all within 30 days.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (lqvOf)

53
Close enough to slap is close enough to stab.

It's coming, axel.

Glenn Beck is right -- the Democrats are gonna get someone killed. And you're right, it could've easily been Mayor Barrett, last night. That's how crazy these people are.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (eMRto)

54 Yeah... I'll get right on that.

Posted by: EricHolder at June 06, 2012 04:23 PM (rFiOs)

55 You'd think Orrin Hatch (who actually had a run in with the convicted
bomber) would be front and center in this, but unfortunately some people
decided he wasn't the Hill to Die on so I think he's got it sewn up.


***

Beat me to it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:24 PM (piMMO)

56 Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:14 PM (eMRto)

Can't his wife and kids trademark his name?

Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 04:24 PM (oZfic)

57 @50: And as we've seen, a press release from a sitting Senator gives the MFM cover to at least mention the story without feeling like they're making themselves targets.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 06, 2012 04:24 PM (tqwMN)

58 Punish this fucker at #31.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:18 PM (eMRto)

It's odd how I always seem to scroll past the trolls without even noticing them.

It's a sixth sense or something.

Posted by: ErikW at June 06, 2012 04:25 PM (BYKg1)

59 You mean the same Attorney General who referred to blacks as "my people" in congressional testimony!

I don't think "equal justice under the law" means what Holder thinks it does.

Posted by: Punchy at June 06, 2012 04:25 PM (mWijP)

60 44 -

He's also sweating the perjury (or was it contempt) charges being threatened against him right now, so maybe if he sees himself as being between a hammer and an anvil, he'll do what he can here to try to save his own rear end.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:25 PM (TOk1P)

61 I havent been browsing the AoS as long as the O.B.s but an increase in trolling shows an increase audience and a bigger voice on the interweb. Take it as a compliment. Then belittle the troll.

Posted by: Infidelswine at June 06, 2012 04:25 PM (aJkFM)

62 You're missing the point if you think this is a letter to Eric Holder.

It's an open letter to the MSM that happens to have Holder's name at the top to force it to be a story.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 06, 2012 04:26 PM (J5tI6)

63 Any dick sucking needed on this one?

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at June 06, 2012 04:26 PM (+hyCN)

64 The one tweet where someone claimed to have already paid for a hit was
terrifying. Also, and I know I'm probably alone in this, I didn't find
the video of Barrett getting slapped all that funny. Okay, it is funny
but it's also terrifying. Close enough to slap is close enough to stab.
It's like when that reporter threw a shoe at Pres. Bush. Ha ha ha funny
but it could very easily have been something other than a shoe.



*****

It pisses me off.

Who the fuck does she think she is?!

I don't give a rat's ass if he was the opponent, she had no effing right to lay a finger on him and should have been taken out IMMEDIATELY.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:27 PM (piMMO)

65 Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 04:24 PM (oZfic)

You're a legal genius, catpiss. Once his name is trademarked no anonymous troll would dare use it.

Posted by: Cicero at June 06, 2012 04:27 PM (QKKT0)

66 Any dick sucking needed on this one?

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at June 06, 2012 04:26 PM (+hyCN)


Get behind Lawrence O'Donnell.

Posted by: EC at June 06, 2012 04:28 PM (GQ8sn)

67 I havent been browsing the AoS as long as the O.B.s but an increase in
trolling shows an increase audience and a bigger voice on the interweb.
Take it as a compliment. Then belittle the troll.


****

Oh, dude! You haven't seen anything yet.

Wait until November!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:28 PM (piMMO)

68 I'm thinking of trademarking the name curious. Then you're toast.

Posted by: Cicero at June 06, 2012 04:28 PM (QKKT0)

69 "As difficult as it may be, ignoring a troll is the worst possible outcome for them, regardless of how desperate their bullshit may be."

It's true.

Posted by: rainbowz! at June 06, 2012 04:29 PM (kZVsz)

70 Just watch. If this gains any traction at all with Holder or the MFM, they'll try to find a way to turn it against the violent and verbally abusive Tea Partiers.

Posted by: Soona - still banned at June 06, 2012 04:29 PM (5FUS8)

71 Excellent... My rep's office actuallycalled to acknowledge that they received my letter and that they would be looking into the matter.
*
Baby steps. "Its takes an act of congress" is not a cliche for nothing.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 06, 2012 04:29 PM (eavT+)

72 Can't his wife and kids trademark his name?
Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 04:24 PM (oZfic)


Yeah that would totally stop people from using the name in a sockpuppet online. What a maroon.

Posted by: Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, and every other trademarked name out there. at June 06, 2012 04:30 PM (GULKT)

73 Glenn Beck is right -- the Democrats are gonna get someone killed. And
you're right, it could've easily been Mayor Barrett, last night. That's
how crazy these people are.


*****

We have our fingers crossed!





{{{oh please, oh please!}}}

Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at June 06, 2012 04:30 PM (piMMO)

74 Ever notice that Eric Holder looks like a black version of Yanni? He just needs some hair extensions and a player piano and he'll be pulling more ass than a toilet seat at a Lillith Fair.

Posted by: EC at June 06, 2012 04:30 PM (GQ8sn)

75 62 -

True, but I would think it's also about focusing the spotlight on Holder, then daring him not to act.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (TOk1P)

76 68
I'm thinking of trademarking the name curious. Then you're toast.


Posted by: Cicero at June 06, 2012 04:28 PM (QKKT0)
So, let me get this straight. You are on a thread talking about someone who makes threats and then you make a threat? Gee you are super genius.I don't use "curious" have at it....but should you want to sue me go ahead....discovery would be fun...

Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (oZfic)

77 I haven't seen footage of the slapping incident.It was an irate lefty I hope.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (Xb3hu)

78 Oh yeah, Holder will drop everything and get right on this. By the way Holder looks a lot like Anwar Sadat to me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (r4wIV)

79 Glenn Beck is right -- the Democrats are gonna get someone killed. And
you're right, it could've easily been Mayor Barrett, last night. That's
how crazy these people are.


I would argue it almost happened to Gabby Giffords. Although Jared Loughner was a 9-11 truther and a Bush hater, the circles in which he traveled considered any mainstream politician fair game. He was also crazy, not an anarchist or someone with a plan, but he was influenced by the Left.

The Dems should be nervous, though. Human nature leads to people saving the greatest vitriol for "traitors" from their own side.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (J5tI6)

80
Eggmcmuffin in the lower thread is repeating the New Lie about Reagan -- he was all for Keynesian economics!

Next thing the Left will say is Reagan loved playing hoops.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:32 PM (eMRto)

81 I'm sure that Eric "Champion of Justice" Holder just can't wait to jump on this

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 06, 2012 04:32 PM (1Jaio)

82 Ever notice that Eric Holder looks like a black version of Yanni?

He doesn't look like a black version of anything. Conan O'Brien has darker skin than Eric Holder.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 06, 2012 04:33 PM (J5tI6)

83 HE SAID I'D BE TOAST!

SOMEBODY GET MEA PEES ORDER!

Posted by: rainbowz! at June 06, 2012 04:33 PM (kZVsz)

84 71
Ur reps office called u back on the telephone?! Maybe letters rnt a waste of time . . . w some reps anyway.

Posted by: Infidelswine at June 06, 2012 04:33 PM (aJkFM)

85 makes threats and then you make a threat? Gee you
are super genius.I don't use "curious" have at it....but should you want
to sue me go ahead....discovery would be fun...


Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (oZfic)


Oh god. Please don't start a dossier on me.

Posted by: Cicero at June 06, 2012 04:33 PM (QKKT0)

86 He's a Saxby Mutha-fukka!!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (eavT+)

87 So, let me get this straight. You are on a thread talking about someone who makes threats and then you make a threat?


****

I seldom pipe in these arguments, but even you have to be embarrassed by how asinine that statement is.

Posted by: MSM, and Shep Smith at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (piMMO)

88 I always liked Saxby Chambliss. I remember when Gov. Palin campaigned for him.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (eThkM)

89 77 I haven't seen footage of the slapping incident.It was an irate lefty I hope.
Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:31 PM (Xb3hu)

Oh Yeah, you need to look it up on line. She asked him first then he said he would rather ahve a hug. Then she smacked the shit out of him. Truly priceless.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (9TTOe)

90 >>>Not that any knucklehead really cares about the First Amendment.

Wow, you libs really are immune to detecting hypocrisy in yourselves aren't you? You come into a conservative forum with a sock nic and take a big sh*t right in the middle of it claiming we don't care about protecting free speech.

You libs really are all little tyrants looking for someone to bully aren't you?


Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (0q2P7)

91 77 -

I saw a lot of staring into each other's eyes, as if the two knew each other well. She's very tiny, and can barely be seen in the crowd. His reaction would suggest it didn't hurt, at least not physically.

I still don't condone it, but I don't think this is much of anything, and not some crazed "attack" on him.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (TOk1P)

92 off sock

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:34 PM (piMMO)

93 Yeah that would totally stop people from using the name in a sockpuppet online. What a maroon.>>

I'm sure that trademarking the name would work and I should know.

Posted by: Travon Martin at June 06, 2012 04:35 PM (tf9Ne)

94 Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:36 PM (9TTOe)

95 Oh Yeah, you need to look it up on line. She asked him first then he
said he would rather ahve a hug. Then she smacked the shit out of him.
Truly priceless.


****

Someone is going to have to explain the concept of "priceless" to me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:36 PM (piMMO)

96 Let's not start Saxing each others' Chamblisses quite yet, gentlemen.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at June 06, 2012 04:36 PM (kZVsz)

97 Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf?

You just used "good" and "meatloaf" in the same sentence. Without irony.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:36 PM (8y9MW)

98 Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner.


****

I would start with salt.

And pepper.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:36 PM (piMMO)

99 The only problem with this would be why his staff chose to pass this on to Holder and the DoJ. SWATting using VoIP would be a US Secret Service Investigative Division responsibility. See 18 USC 3056.

We need to light up Treasury, not DoJ. They might also be a little less political about this.

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:37 PM (WkuV6)

100 I saw Chambliss with Boortz, Sen. Ben Nelson and the local J-School dean on a panel called "New Media: How Technology Has Influenced American Politics."

Pretty good, with a follow-up q and a.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2012 04:37 PM (0vc7K)

101 "Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner."

pop open a can of condensed chili and mix it in with the meat. Lacking that, just use chili spices in the meat and dump a can over the top (or your home made).

Basically anything ethnic works, italian, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 06, 2012 04:37 PM (r4wIV)

102 84 71 Ur reps office called u back on the telephone?! Maybe letters rnt a waste of time . . . w some reps anyway.
Posted by: Infidelswine at June 06, 2012 04:33 PM (aJkFM)
**
Yeah...Scott Garret Dis#5 NJ...Left a message on my machine. Needless to say he got my vote yesterday. No word yetfrom Christie's office must be too busy having lunch with the Muzzies. (I keed I actually like Christie)

Posted by: dananjcon at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (eavT+)

103 I would start with salt.

And pepper.


The traditional Native American recipe also calls for "meat."

Posted by: Elizabeth "Lactates Without Tits" Warren at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (QKKT0)

104 It might be worth asking the ACLU to help.

I know, they almost certainly won't. But I'd like to see them explain why not.

Posted by: sandy burger at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (k0pNf)

105 See: http://www.secretservice.gov/criminal.shtml

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (WkuV6)

106 Spices for meatloaf?

Ketchup

Posted by: Infidelswine at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (aJkFM)

107 Maybe we should have a draw Kiberdork day.

Posted by: Pecos, at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (2Gb0y)

108 "I saw a lot of staring into each other's eyes, as if the two knew each other well. She's very tiny, and can barely be seen in the crowd. His reaction would suggest it didn't hurt, at least not physically. "

Maybe she's just a friend that needed some money...to get through a hard time...

Posted by: Herman Cain at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (kZVsz)

109 87 -

Same here. Personally, I think some people around here are too hard on her, but she does sometimes make it easy for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:39 PM (TOk1P)

110 SWATting using VoIP would be a US Secret Service Investigative Division responsibility. See 18 USC 3056.

Why would it be Secret Service? That seems strange.
Also, I don't think we know that the SWATting has involved VoIP.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:39 PM (8y9MW)

111 Yeah, I usually do a southwest thing with Cumin and other stuff but I was sure a ron could come up with something I had not thought of.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:39 PM (9TTOe)

112 108 -

Ok, that made me laugh! I do miss Herb, way more than I ever thought I would.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2012 04:40 PM (TOk1P)

113 Spices for meatloaf?



Ketchup>>

And crushed saltines

Posted by: Travon Martin at June 06, 2012 04:40 PM (tf9Ne)

114 Ketchup good on meatloaf.

But mustard better on cold meatloaf sandwich the next day.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2012 04:40 PM (0vc7K)

115 They might also be a little less political about this.

I doubt there's a single governmental entity that hasn't been at least moderately tainted by Hope, Change and Despair. Might be worth a look-see, though.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (vbh31)

116 Ketchup>>

And crushed saltines
Posted by: Travon Martin at June 06, 2012 04:40 PM (tf9Ne)

Thanks Travon, you gold tooth thug. You must be on the Meatloaf assembly line in hell.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (9TTOe)

117 My meatloaf

1 Pound ground beef, 95% lean
1 Egg
1 Slice BREAD, BROKEN INTO CRUMBS
1/4 Cup catsup
1/4 Cup 2% milk
1/2 Teaspoon SALT
1/4 Teaspoon PEPper
1/4 Teaspoon OREgano
3 Slices CHEESE - KRAFT SINGLE CHEDDER on top of loaf near end of bake.
8 Ounces broccoli, frozen, CHOPPED FINE
1 Ounce CHEddar cheese, MIXED W BROCCOLI

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (YdQQY)

118 101 "Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner." ***
BACONZ Cheddars!!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (eavT+)

119
107 Maybe we should have a draw Kiberdork day.
Posted by: Pecos, at June 06, 2012 04:38 PM (2Gb0y)


That likely wouldn't be a good idea. At least based on what ace has said what he would consider helpful and unhelpful.

Posted by: buzzion at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (GULKT)

120 I am going to run for "Queen of Cheese Burgers" can I count on all of you to support me?

Posted by: Meg McCain at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (XiWh1)

121 Yeah, I usually do a southwest thing with Cumin and other stuff but I
was sure a ron could come up with something I had not thought of.


****

There's a diner here at which meatloaf is one of their biggest sellers. It's delicious but there's something off about it. They serve it with brown gravy but there's a hint of something like cinnamon in there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:41 PM (piMMO)

122 BTW I hope Romney's victory in November is "narrow" like Walker's last night.

Posted by: steevy at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (Xb3hu)

123 110 Allen - Computer crimes are a secret service mission, same with identity theft. I think it goes back to their background in financial crimes and forgery.

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (WkuV6)

124 >Wow, you libs really are immune to detecting hypocrisy in yourselves aren't you?

A libtard explained it to me once. Conservative statements are "invalid" and thus not subject to first amendment protection.

Posted by: Bob Saget at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (SDkq3)

125
So Carter and his super-majority Democrat Congress bailed out Chrysler in January 1980.

What would've happened to Chrysler if Carter won reelection? It would've failed. They still made shitty cars. But instead, Chrysler thrived because of Reaganomics.

Inflation and interest rates were under control and people could afford cars, again, thanks to President Reagan. So even Chrysler could sell a lot of their shitty K-cars and Horizons.


Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (eMRto)

126 "Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner."

My Cherokee grandmother always mixed her buffalo meatloaf with Hungarian paprika, per strictly-followed Native American tradition. Really packed extra heat that domestic paprika tends to lack.

Posted by: Fauxcohontas Warren at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (kZVsz)

127 Okay, I've said things about my Senator Saxby
Chambliss before now (mostly about "reaching across the isle" *spit*),
but if he keeps the pressure on and gets some tangable results I'll take
it all back.

Posted by: Warthog at June 06, 2012 04:16 PM (WDySP)


Yeah I was kind of surprised to find him taking the lead on this but I gotta give him credit for at least breaking the silence.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (SODRl)

128 104 It might be worth asking the ACLU to help.***

Believe it or not, they are representing a high school student who wore an anti-gay T-shirt to school on that school's Respect Teh Ghey day. And by anti-gay, I mean, he had a rainbow with the slash sign over it, and on the reverse a silhouette of a man and woman holding hands.

ACLU made it known they don't share the young man's view, however defend his right to free speech.

Posted by: kallisto at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (jm/9g)

129 You took the words right out of my mouth.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 06, 2012 04:43 PM (0vc7K)

130 113

Lol! Thanks for that travon. Im out.

Posted by: Infidelswine at June 06, 2012 04:44 PM (aJkFM)

131 99
The only problem with this would be why his staff chose to pass this on
to Holder and the DoJ. SWATting using VoIP would be a US Secret Service
Investigative Division responsibility. See 18 USC 3056.



We need to light up Treasury, not DoJ. They might also be a little less political about this.

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:37 PM

Secret Service was transferred over to DHS a few years ago

Big Sis will just issue a statement that Homeland Security is already on guard for domestic terrorism, and obstructionists in Congress are keeping her from doing her job


Posted by: kbdabear at June 06, 2012 04:44 PM (Y+DPZ)

132 Thanks to post Senator Chambliss press release letter, before Drudge linked.

The release makes it easy for us to write or call responses in kind to our officials, not only nationally, but even the local mayor, police chief, and sheriff.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 06, 2012 04:44 PM (lpWVn)

133 >>>"reaching across the isle" *spit*

Aisle? Or does this guy have some really long arms?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at June 06, 2012 04:45 PM (0q2P7)

134 ACLU made it known they don't share the young man's view, however defend his right to free speech.

Posted by: kallisto at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (jm/9g)

They will lose that case because the court has long ruled that schools may restrict slogans on t-shirts in the interest of furthering school safety and education.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2012 04:45 PM (YdQQY)

135 Computer crimes are a secret service mission, same with identity theft.
I think it goes back to their background in financial crimes and
forgery.


I think that splits a hair. Telecommunications (that is: phone) is pure DoJ. Based on that previous link, it doesn't look like the Secret Service would see SWATing which incidentally involved VoIP telephonic communication as "their turf." They might investigate anyway, but the crime isn't about the computer, or even the "identity" in SWATing, it's the false police reports, harassment across state lines, etc., etc.

The FBI Specifically says to report any instances of SWATing to them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:45 PM (8y9MW)

136 Started my weekend early with a fund - raising trip to California! At your expense! Can't be bothered with any D - Day acknowledgement.

Posted by: Barry Fundraising in Cali at June 06, 2012 04:46 PM (c3mby)

137 Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner.

When I was in high school I came home to find my father making dinner. Apparently my mom had something to do and thus tasked my father with making meatballs. I walk into the kitchen where my father is making what can only be described as balls of meat. Seriously, he was just taking hamburger and rolling it into balls. I stared for a bit then said "Umm what are you doing?" My dad "Making meatballs" Me "No, you are making balls of meat". I then lift up the dish he's using and the recipe is directly underneath it. Also out on the counter were all the ingredients. I shove him out of the way and take over at which point he starts objecting that there's no way that all of that stuff goes into the meatballs. I then threw him out of the kitchen.Since that time, he's never, ever been asked to make those again.

Upon further reflection, I think my father was engaging in strategic incompetence. You know, where if you do something bad enough, you never get asked to do it again. Drat. Foiled again.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 06, 2012 04:47 PM (VtjlW)

138
"He is probably reacting to Eric Ericson of Red State fame. Chambliss is kinda like our own Lindsay Graham. He goes hot and cold in alternating years. "

Yup. I'll give him full marks for the letter, but I can't help but to see it as Saxby's predictable swing to the right in the runup to an election. We've seen this movie before.

So yeah, good on him for sending this to Holder, but I'll be supporting Chambliss' opponent - assuming the GA GOP can manage to have anything other than an uncontested senatorial racenext time.

Posted by: Jaws at June 06, 2012 04:47 PM (4I3Uo)

139 I think that splits a hair. Telecommunications (that is: phone) is pure DoJ. Based on that previous link, it doesn't look like the Secret Service would see SWATing which incidentally involved VoIP telephonic communication as "their turf." They might investigate anyway, but the crime isn't about the computer, or even the "identity" in SWATing, it's the false police reports, harassment across state lines, etc., etc.The FBI Specifically says to report any instances of SWATing to them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:45 PM (8y9MW)


I'm betting that there is some arguing between them over which agency actually has jurisdiction.

Posted by: buzzion at June 06, 2012 04:47 PM (GULKT)

140 PS, please turn over the Fast n' Furious stuff too.

Posted by: Saxby at June 06, 2012 04:47 PM (UU0OF)

141 DHS is still better then Justice. SWATting seems to be right up their alley: computer crime, impersonation, etc.

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:48 PM (WkuV6)

142 Aisle? Or does this guy have some really long arms?

Be careful! Reaching across an isle may cause it to tip!

Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 06, 2012 04:48 PM (tqwMN)

143 New ace thread up.

Posted by: Vic at June 06, 2012 04:48 PM (YdQQY)

144 Upon further reflection, I think my father was engaging in strategic incompetence.

That's often a safe assumption with males of the species.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 06, 2012 04:48 PM (8y9MW)

145 OLD SAILOR:

Whenever I need to cook for the missus, I get onto Food Network's website and look up Alton Brown's recipe for whatever I'm wanting to make.

ALTON WILL NOT STEER YOU WRONG. Plus, he seems to usually find the easiest way to make stuff, as well.

Second place would be a recipe from Paula Deen, if for some reason Alton's is too complicated or you're missing too much of what he uses for ingredients. But I know Alton's got at least one meatloaf recipe on there, and it will be chock-full of AWESOME.

Posted by: reason at June 06, 2012 04:49 PM (V40IZ)

146 Thanks to post Senator Chambliss press release letter, before Drudge linked.



******

Because beating Drudge to this story requires lightning fast reflexes!



/sarc

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 06, 2012 04:49 PM (piMMO)

147 Chambliss walks the line between conservative and rino like a flying wallenda. This move is a good one although it will produce no results. Time to cook, Thanks for the new ideas.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (9TTOe)

148 Upon further reflection, I think my father was engaging in strategic incompetence. You know, where if you do something bad enough, you never get asked to do it again. Drat. Foiled again.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 06, 2012 04:47 PM (VtjlW)


I would never do such a thing. Now you dump 2 cups of bleach into every load of laundry and throw it all together and dry on high heat right?

Posted by: alexthechick's father at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (GULKT)

149 A left smacking a lefty is cool with me. I don't think you realize how much both of those people hate you.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (KXm42)

150 Believe it or not, they are representing a high school student who wore
an anti-gay T-shirt to school on that school's Respect Teh Ghey day.


They regularly do this, but only when they can get attention or when it's inconsequential. And never with a mainstream point of view. Anything they defend that isn't left-wing is vile. They never defend a sympathetic right-of-center client.

Don't be fooled. If it's really consequential, if the rubber meets the road, if it will be a wide-reaching precedent and a conservative is on the right side, the ACLU will be nowhere to be found.

ACLU made it known they don't share the young man's view,

Funny, they never feel the need to do this with anybody else. Well, maybe when they defend the KKK marches, but that's it.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (J5tI6)

151 The FBI Specifically says to report any instances of SWATing to them.

The FBI says that about anything interesting or that might have funding attached to it in the future. Maybe even a new wing at Quantico to specialize in it, and extra training dollar for the HRT to "recognize the possibility".

Posted by: Jean at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (WkuV6)

152 Inflation and interest rates were under control and people could afford cars, again, thanks to President Reagan. So even Chrysler could sell a lot of their shitty K-cars and Horizons.
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2012 04:42 PM (eMRto)
**
They truly where the biggest POS on the road. Me and my drunkin buddies actually flipped a Horizon..we missed the entrance to the woods and ended up in a ditch wheels up. Good times...good thing we weredeep in the boonies. Actually if ya think about it..it wasn't a POS at all, we where able to get itstartedand made back to the Bon fire...beer run complete!!

Posted by: dananjcon at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (eavT+)

153 Posted by: reason at June 06, 2012 04:49 PM (V40IZ)

Yeah, Alton is good, I'll look that up. Thanks.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 06, 2012 04:51 PM (9TTOe)

154 "That's often a safe assumption with males of the species."

Shit, one of them is ON TO US!??!?

Execute Operation Slackass, gentlemen! This is not a drill! GO GO GO!

Posted by: reason at June 06, 2012 04:51 PM (V40IZ)

155 94 Hey, anybody got a good list of spices for a meatloaf? I have to make Mrs. Sailors dinner.

---

Wrap in bacon and slather with catsup before cooking. The rest is kinda secondary.

For hamburger based meat loaf, I use garlic and usually some thyme with plain bread crumbs.

Posted by: Y-not at June 06, 2012 04:52 PM (5H6zj)

156 Happy to help, Old Sailor. Good luck with the 'loaf.

Posted by: reason at June 06, 2012 04:53 PM (V40IZ)

157 >> I'll give him full marks for the letter, but I can't help but to see it
as Saxby's predictable swing to the right in the runup to an election.


I'm skeptical of that. We're blog readers, so we follow this stuff. Normal voters don't. The MSM ignores it, so it's not on most voters' radar screens.

I think the simpler answer is the right one: Mr. Chambliss wrote this letter simply because he's trying to prevent somebody from getting hurt.

Posted by: sandy burger at June 06, 2012 04:53 PM (k0pNf)

158 149 A left smacking a lefty is cool with me. I don't think you realize how much both of those people hate you.
Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2012 04:50 PM (KXm42)


Well that lefty smacking a lefty eventually develops into Loughner shooting Giffords, killing many others as well.

Posted by: buzzion at June 06, 2012 04:54 PM (GULKT)

159 Let's face it, folks. As long as the SCOAMT is in office, nothing will be done. He controls law enforcement, period. IMHO, I imagine that he may encouraging this kind of behavior.

Posted by: Soona - still banned at June 06, 2012 04:56 PM (5FUS8)

160 Just my humble opinion, but asking Holder to investigate this shit is like asking the SS to investigate Kristallnacht. It ain't gonna fukkin' happen.

Posted by: maddogg at June 06, 2012 04:56 PM (OlN4e)

161 What do you mean, "How much water did I mix the Pine-Sol with?"

Posted by: alexthefather, standing in a room that smells like a pine tree's anus, if it actually had one at June 06, 2012 04:57 PM (V40IZ)

162 I put a package of dry Liptons Onion and mushroom soup mix in with the hamburger when I make meatloaf. it is really good.

Posted by: Chilling the most at June 06, 2012 05:01 PM (6IV8T)

163 Good for Sen. Chambliss for going on the record, but the SWATting is only the first phase of the intimidation, the police and/or legal authorities doing nothing to protect conservatives is the second and most chilling part. There is no equal protection for conservative victims from lawlessness - that's why Holder didn't prosecute the Black Panthers - beating R's away from the polls is okay in his universe.

This makes him unfit to be DOJ - and it is the essential part of the intimidation that goes all the way to the top. The only way to end this is to kick these bastards to the curb in November, then jerks like BK will have a far different environment in which to function.

Posted by: Fussy formerly Carmelita at June 06, 2012 05:02 PM (Y/2U4)

164 I put a package of dry Liptons Onion and mushroom soup mix in with the hamburger when I make meatloaf. it is really good.

Mmm...I 'm going to try that when I don't have to take out a loan to buy beef anymore.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2012 05:03 PM (KXm42)

165 Jean - I believe you're correct about the USSS regarding jurisidiction over many instances of computer crime, but they're under Homeland Security now, not the Treasury Department. It's all part of the big post-9/11 re-organization of the Federal enforcement structure that brought in a lot of agencies under the Homeland Security umbrella.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at June 06, 2012 05:06 PM (wJliR)

166 Meatloaf:
1t. mustard, two pieces of bread soaked with 1T milk and two eggs, 2T Worcestershire sauce, 1t. salt, 1/4t. pepper, 2T diced onion. Mix those ingredients thoroughly and add one pound of lean ground beef. Place 2 slices of bacon on top and cook 45min at 375 degrees.
(This recipe saves marriages)


Posted by: Fussy at June 06, 2012 05:06 PM (Y/2U4)

167 Ladies of the House, my Saxby ready for suckin'!!

Posted by: That's Mister Chambliss! at June 06, 2012 05:10 PM (L5yyj)

168 That's interesting. I make a sauce and then put it over my meatloaf and put it in the oven. I use onions and Italian bread crumbs and fresh italian parsley.that I grow on the window ledge. that's how I was taught to make it, was told to avoid ketchup at all costs.

Posted by: / at June 06, 2012 05:10 PM (oZfic)

169 "Could", "perhaps", "maybe", "should", and "motherfuckers" will become the key words of democrats leading up to Nov.

Posted by: Soona - still banned at June 06, 2012 05:11 PM (BcTh4)

170 Man do I miss meatloaf. Those were the days my friend.

Best meatloaf in teh World -- Boston Market. ( with the red sauce of love)

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2012 05:18 PM (KXm42)

171 reusing packagedsoup mix in recipes: be sure NOT to add any salt as these soup mixes are full of sodium. really.

Posted by: Nanny Bloomberg at June 06, 2012 05:23 PM (8g9qq)

172 I think my computer has contracted a disease or something. It only refreshes the thread by one or two comments. Still no comment writing box. I've scanned and rescanned for bugs, but it's still screwy. Have I been hacksed?

Posted by: Soona - still banned at June 06, 2012 05:26 PM (BcTh4)

173 Good on Saxby but this in one of the few times I can praise him. Still, this is needed but won't go anywhere with Holder.

Posted by: ATLDiver at June 06, 2012 05:31 PM (rCsM0)

174 Soona try the compatability thingus. ( if you're using IE)

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2012 05:34 PM (KXm42)

175 >>writes a letter

What a simpering faggot. Where's the "I call BS" fuck-you resignation?

Posted by: General Zod at June 06, 2012 05:50 PM (2+bRt)

176 I had not given it any thought before these 'SWATing' stories but we have gone a long way down the slope to an Orwellian 1984 world when we think its perfectly fine and normal for the police to send a SWAT team to someones private residence.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 06, 2012 05:50 PM (dkExz)

177 Under Holder, the Department of Justice has come to resemble Orwell's Ministries of Plenty, Peace,Truth and Love. There is no justice and there will be no DoJ action regarding Chambliss' letter, US Senator or not. Holder's managed to hold Issa's committee in complete contempt throughout Fast Furious. Why would Holder take action against thugs and terrorists with whose aims he supports? To him, we aren't patriotic Americans voicing differing ideas and opposing points of view. To him, we--you and me--are the enemy.

I so badly want that bigoted, authoritarianideologue to one day pay for the gross perversion of his office and the crimes many of us suspect--with foundation--he and his subordinates have committed, but fish that big and well-connected rarely go to jail. Too bad.

Posted by: troyriser at June 06, 2012 05:58 PM (vtiE6)

178 Chambliss was a form-letter, non-thinking shithead regarding SOPA/PIPA, so I'm glad he's at least paying attention to some of the letters we write to him.

Posted by: justJ at June 06, 2012 07:25 PM (PyYUJ)

179 SWATting is not a new phenom. If you will remember an Obama campaign worker in 2008 SWATted a Mormon group in Texas calling in a false child abuse report. The result of that false report caused CPS to illegally take children from their mothers only to later send them all back when it was discovered the initial report was false.

The point of that SWAT by Obama's minion was to cast a bad light on Mormanism as a bank shot on Mitt Romney (a Mormon) who was running in the GOP primaries against McCain in 2008. Don't you find it interesting that Democrats tried this tactic again and backfired when they pulled the false moral equivalence of a Romney ancestor being a polygamist when in fact Obama's father IS a practicing polygamist?

Will Holder do anything about SWATting, not on your life. Democrats have a vested interest in government meddling in the affairs of individuals. Whether by hook or crook, Holder and his ilk believe the law is for their convenience because they are the LAW, it matters not how contact with the LAW is initiated as it justifies their involvement in your life. When the camel's nose gets under the tent, your response should be to kick the camel firmly in the nose or at least throw a skunk on it.

Posted by: dscott at June 07, 2012 07:44 AM (M9n8A)

180 SWATing is an act of domestic terrorism. So where the heck is Homeland Security? Oh, I forgot... they're busy helping TSA hand rape 80 year old women at the airport.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at June 07, 2012 10:57 AM (EhYdw)






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