Overnight Open Thread

Silver Star for the outstanding job Tech. Sgt. Tavis Delaney did in Afghanistan.

“They owned the high ground,” Delaney told Air Force Times last year. “They had fire superiority. They had hundreds of people. And we killed almost all of them and didn’t lose a single American in seven hours of battle. It was seven hours of full-blown, slugfest, back-and-forth, rounds-smacking-right-over-your-head battle.”

The Taliban had been waiting to attack, but the constant onslaught of air power called in by Delaney and McCaffrey pushed them back and protected the Americans and Afghans. Air assets used were F-16s, F-15Es, AC-130s, two Navy F/A-18s, AH-64 Apaches and OH-58 Kiowas, with the help of an MC-12 Liberty surveillance plane to coordinate the battle.

“It was one of the most awesome, awe-inspiring and intimidating sights I’ve ever seen,” Delaney said of watching the special operations AC-130s track down the rest of the Taliban.


Ah, the importance of air power. Final score: 270-0. Which makes this article, America's Aging Aviation Force a bit disturbing. Over time, we won't have this robust air power we enjoy now. Oh and China Is Catching Up Sooner Than Expected.

New Uzi Machine Gun

This is Not Your Father's Uzi. I remember growing up, the Uzi and the MAC-10 were the cool guns. Then the MP-5 came along and I forgot all about the Uzi. Good to see a new iteration of it.

Movie Credit Scenes

While I agree with some of these (especially Dr. No) Top 10 Best Movie Credit Sequences, I must admit that the opening credits to Top Gun deserve mention. What other movies deserve mention?

Electric Harp Duet

Naughty Sounding Science Words

Heh. Naughty-Sounding Words From Science.

Mastication-Induced Arousal. Say that five times fast, just don't do it around your mother. However, if you choose to do so, just make sure that you hastily explain that the term actually is used to describe the beneficial cognitive effects of chewing.

Gangster Quiz

So you like Gangster movies? How well do you know them? Test your knowledge with The Gangster Quiz.

Kitteh Video

Bonus Kitteh stuff: Cas$h Cats.

Male Tragedy

Ouch! Man Loses His Penis To Flesh-Eating Bacteria. I assume he'll try a prosthetic next.

Related: I'm not sure this is something you want to use down there either. Whiskey Dick Lube.

Whiskey Dick is here to help you rise to the occasion. Aged 4 years in hard oak casks and promising a velvety smooth finish, this is truly the gold standard of booze-flavored lubricants.

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Posted by: CDR M at 09:59 PM



Comments

1 As a public service to maaaahhh fellow morons, I am answering herewith a few popular questions I have seen about the Zimmerman case. And no, I don’t play one on TV, but I am a real criminal defense lawyer here in FL:

“I could be totally wrong, but I thought that there could not be a civil suit against him unless criminal charges were filed?”

No, there is absolutely NO NEED for criminal charges to be filed before a civil suit can proceed. Nope.

However, if criminal charges ARE filed, this freezes any civil suit progress, until the criminal case is resolved (one way or the other). This may have confused the issue.

Interestingly, the FL Supreme Court decided a case in 2006 in favor of a defendant who had been convicted of “resisting an officer w/violence,” a 3d degree felony. The Court issued a lengthy decision, really clarifying the elements of the charge, and Tillman’s conviction was thrown out. Being the good citizen he was, he was incarcerated on other charges, but occupied himself by SUING THE ARRESTING OFFICER ON THE DISMISSED CASE FOR FALSE ARREST. Good argument, right? But Nooooooo,
The Federal Court held that the officer was entitled to dismissal, since the Defendant had “already been convicted in the criminal court for the resisting…” EVEN THO THAT CONVICTION HAD BEEN DISMISSED ON APPEAL!! [Google “Tillman” “Florida” “resisting an officer with violence”] for the detailed saga].

“Could Zimmerman still be convicted of manslaughter...if the Murder 2 charge doesn't stick? ....I mean, can the jury drop back to manslaughter, if they don't think it was murder?”
Yes, absolutely possible, tho not without the agreement of Zim’s attorney. Manslaughter is what we call “a permissible lesser included offense” of murder, it is not mandated in the jury instructions, but if the Defense wants it, it can be in there. That is a strategic call, usually a very tough one, whether the Defense wd want to risk allowing the jury to “split the baby,” or go for all or nothing.
To clarify, manslaughter is NOT the same as Murder 2 or 3 in FL. It's under 782.07, NOT 782.04.

http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/782.07

“Can’t the judge just dismiss this case BEFORE trial?”
Yes, for one of three reasons:
1—No evidence of at least one of the elements of the charge (extremely rare in serious cases)
2—Egregious prosecutorial misconduct, a la Nifong (also extremely rare—really requires a showing of some type of corruption, like failing to disclose favorable DNA evidence—that REALLY hung Nifong)
3—A preponderance of evidence that the act was done in self-defense, to be argued at a special “stand your ground” hearing. (This one has a real, you shd pardon the expression, shot.)
At the SYG hearing, we will likely just hear from a single criminal forensic expert that he/she is of the opinion that it was NOT self-defense…Then we will hear from Zim, plus that one neighbor who saw him being pummeled…Hell, that’s 2 eyewitnesses vs. 1 non-eyewitness…Does that sound like a preponderance of the evidence to you?
I’ll open the floor for questions…

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 09:59 PM (1X/a4)

2 Ohhh, YESSSSS, 1st TWICE IN 2 DAYS!!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:00 PM (1X/a4)

3 Longest first comment ever?

Posted by: CDR M at May 19, 2012 10:00 PM (QaYwz)

4
See what happens when you let them fight.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 10:00 PM (SAMxH)

5 So will all the other threads stay dead too?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:01 PM (FTuxU)

6 And it would appear that Pixy is screwing "real" double quotation marks and apostrophes unlike the ersatz "straight" marks etc. in the comments boxes.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:03 PM (FTuxU)

7
I've always thought the opening to Catch-22 was fantastic.


Good thing that with smart diplomacy we don't need air or naval power, and a cross-dressing brigade of interior decorators will absolutely do wonders for any conflict where emotions run amok.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 19, 2012 10:03 PM (i3+c5)

8 Stossel just coming on now and is titled "Bad Speech" abut political correctness and censorship.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 10:03 PM (piMMO)

9 That is, cut and paste any off-site quotes into Notepad first and then re-cut and re-paste them into the comment box.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:04 PM (FTuxU)

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure/tyrant.

Posted by: Chief Fullovbull at May 19, 2012 10:04 PM (Bxm/r)

11 Well, nothing can stop the U.S. Air Force.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (ZOf1l)

12 hi all
great ONT, CDR M
and thanx for the Zim update, JewishOdysseus

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (7FadD)

13 CDR M, I can type REALLY fast.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (1X/a4)

14 dead muslim terrorist= good muslim terrorist

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (cjTjM)

15 I know this is a perverse question of me, but why isn't Chicago burning? I thought those anarchists and occupoopers and communists were going to fight the power this weekend.

Or are they keeping their powder dry until tomorrow? After all tomorrow evening is an annular eclipse.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (RZ8pf)

16 time for some gin

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 19, 2012 10:06 PM (Mrdk1)

17 Good for you Jewish odysseus

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 19, 2012 10:06 PM (axnl4)

18 Combined arms kicks ass when its done right. The Soviets were on to this during WWII. It seems like we've just recently entertained the notion...out of necessity.


Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:06 PM (AWrMW)

19
Eight months until adults are back in charge.

ABO 2012

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 10:06 PM (9sUlj)

20 Hey, I'm out of Crab Omlet....

Chop chop Fauxcahontas...

Posted by: Chief Fullovbull at May 19, 2012 10:07 PM (Bxm/r)

21
rd we hope

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 10:07 PM (cjTjM)

22 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:05 PM (RZ8pf)


Depends on what whore the anarchists serve. If they don't serve Rahms interests aka they are not Rahms whores, then he will unleash hell on them. Just like Daly in '68.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:07 PM (ZOf1l)

23 “It was one of the most awesome, awe-inspiring and intimidating sights
I’ve ever seen,” Delaney said of watching the special operations AC-130s
track down the rest of the Taliban.
**
God bless God speed to these mofo's . #My Boys

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:07 PM (SBL+e)

24 Yeah JO. How the hell did you get all that in to the first post? Impressive.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 10:08 PM (jucos)

25
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 10:07 PM (cjTjM)


and pray!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 19, 2012 10:08 PM (i3+c5)

26 19

Eight months until adults are back in charge. .
*
Are you sure now?

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:08 PM (SBL+e)

27 I am now a dad. Six weeks early, emergency c-section, but mom and son are doing fine.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)

28 Eight months until adults are back in charge.

Adult may be too generous. My expectations are low

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (AWrMW)

29 that is a very cute kitteh video

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (7FadD)

30 wooga congratulations!!

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (7FadD)

31 The harp chicks are creepy...hot but creepy.

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:10 PM (SBL+e)

32 AF veteran salute to you, CDR M. The combat controllers out there with the ground pounders are doing great jobs.

What, exactly, should we assume Mr Connery is going todonext?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:10 PM (7yvLv)

33 Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)


Damn dude! Congratulations. It is a blessing.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:10 PM (ZOf1l)

34 Wooga, congrats!

Posted by: Palandine at May 19, 2012 10:10 PM (g7D8V)

35 I am now a dad. Six weeks early, emergency c-section, but mom and son are doing fine.
Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)
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Welcome to the most fantastic voyage anyone can take! Congratulations.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 10:11 PM (jucos)

36 Watching ID4...even though it's Hollyood, I'd rather have Bill Pullman as President over that gay piece of muslim shit we have now.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 10:11 PM (cjTjM)

37 Thank you, Jewish Odysseus. It's nice to read lawyers explaining what is and is not possible.

Posted by: Dianna at May 19, 2012 10:11 PM (mKMj1)

38 18-"Combined arms kicks ass when its done right. The Soviets were on to this during WWII. It seems like we've just recently entertained the notion...out of necessity."

Israel did a fantastic job w/this in the 1982 Lebanon War, vs. Syrian and the PLO. Up to that war, it was expected that US forces wd knock out 5-10 Soviet aircraft for each one WE lost....2:1 was terrible! But in that war, Israel really applied the "C3" concept, and I believe the count was something like 97-1.

We did the same thing in Iraq in 1991, then in Afgh 2001-2, and Iraq 2003.

But our own strategic confusion has wasted those tremendous victories, I fear.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:12 PM (1X/a4)

39 I don't especially mind losing my italics, the random ampersand or even a bold comment now and again, but where the heck did my spaces go?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:12 PM (7yvLv)

40 Hey Morons! Drinking some La Fin du Monde, from Canda, eh! Also watching dem O's and worrying about a sick Princess.

Whatchall up to?

Thanks, CDR. Of to read about a badass gun and a pure badass. Back in a bit.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 19, 2012 10:12 PM (I/cLr)

41 Congrats wooga!!! Let the fun begin.



JO, you're just suppose to type 'First', silly.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 10:13 PM (X6akg)

42 Congratulations, wooga, and I'm pleased to read that mother and baby are doing well!

Posted by: Dianna at May 19, 2012 10:13 PM (mKMj1)

43 congrats wooga!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:13 PM (RZ8pf)

44 Wooga, congrats to you!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:13 PM (1X/a4)

45 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 19, 2012 10:13 PM (7W3wI)

46 I scored horribly on the gangster quiz, did a bit better on the Star Wars one. Wow, those are some really fanboy questions.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:14 PM (RZ8pf)

47 Congratulations, wooga.

Are you filling out "Kenya" as the place of birth? All the cool kids are doing it.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:14 PM (FTuxU)

48 congrats, wooga

g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:15 PM (JMmQ9)

49 Snoopy Dance, wooga!

Posted by: eman at May 19, 2012 10:15 PM (XrDou)

50 39
I don't especially mind losing my italics, the random ampersand or even a
bold comment now and again, but where the heck did my spaces go?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:12 PM (7yvLv)
**You know where it went?? STFU ...thats where it went!!

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:15 PM (SBL+e)

51 Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:15 PM (JMmQ9)
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How goes the job hunt?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 10:16 PM (jucos)

52
I am now a dad. Six weeks early, emergency c-section, but mom and son are doing fine.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)


Remember, the early years only seem expensive until you look back on them with nostalgia during the later years.

Posted by: Elizabeth Three Wolf Moon Warren at May 19, 2012 10:16 PM (qhHI4)

53 Is La Fin du Monde a (strong?) wine?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:16 PM (FTuxU)

54 Crap. I was wearing my Indian sock. Which I believe are called a moccasin.

Posted by: Cicero at May 19, 2012 10:17 PM (qhHI4)

55 "Yeah JO. How the hell did you get all that in to the first post? Impressive."

Truck Monkey. thanks, but the answer is simple... I just take a page out of AlQaeda, and do the hard work BEFORE HAND.

If we get a post written before 9:45, cut/copy it, and then stay alert her at AOSHQ, we just paste it into a new ONT when it comes up.

I honestly didn't expect to be first, just wanted to be amongst the early commenters. Just dumb luck to actually be 1st.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:17 PM (1X/a4)

56
Congrats, Wooga. Savor the journey.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (SAMxH)

57 slow, Truck Monkey

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (JMmQ9)

58
JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 09:59 PM (1X/a4)
Congratulations on the #1 finish.

IANAL. But I think youthe FL SYG law has some civil suit immunity features built in. If GZ wins immunity via self defense, then they cannot file a civil suit wrongful death suit in FL court?

They can still try a civil suit in Federal court via the Civil Rights laws. But if GZ has an African American grandmother, has tutored AA kids, and fought to get someone convicted of beating a homeless AA man, they might have an uphill battle.

I think Ben Crump really needs to hope that Corey does not mess up the immunity hearing.

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (9sUlj)

59 So, I was telling my son about some frozen cows in Colorado who wandered into a cabin and couldn't figure out how to get back out and he said "that just shows they are evolving, because humans do stupid things like that every day."

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (RZ8pf)

60 It's nice to read lawyers explaining what is and is not possible. - Dianna


That statement by itself is a little scary, if applied too broadly.

Not that there is anything particularly wrong with Jewish Odysseus.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (sJTmU)

61 I'd rather have Bill Pullman as President

Randy Quaid would be an improvement.

Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (ZYrSB)

62 Four of ten on the gangster quiz, not surprising since it was mostly guesses.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 19, 2012 10:19 PM (lzvtR)

63 It's just as well. It hasn't matters who posts first in years since they took away the prizes.

Damn budget cuts.

Posted by: runninrebel at May 19, 2012 10:20 PM (N/1Dm)

64 Ooga, congrats! Raise him well, as if doing so were your only job...because it is.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at May 19, 2012 10:20 PM (KZi9D)

65 Well, nothing can stop the Army Air Corps U.S. Air Force.

FIFY

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 10:20 PM (7+pP9)

66 Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (JMmQ9)
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I am sorry to hear that. It is no fun out there right now.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 10:20 PM (jucos)

67 Oh sure cm9000, rub in the fact that your guesses were better than mine. Since I only got 1 out of 10. Damn, I thought I knew my gangsters too.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:20 PM (RZ8pf)

68 Congratulations to Father Wooga. As others have said, enjoy the journey.

My oldest son is just graduating from high school. The years, they fly by too fast.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at May 19, 2012 10:21 PM (sJTmU)

69 Didn't Quaid unass the USofA to Canuckland? Probably hard to convince him to come back, assassin after him and all . . . . .. .

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:21 PM (7yvLv)

70
One of the neat things with kids is after they sit up unassisted they suddenly acquire a 12 foot arm reach.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 10:21 PM (SAMxH)

71 61
I'd rather have Bill Pullman as President

Randy Quaid would be an improvement.


Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2012 10:18 PM (ZYrSB)

====
not a high standard. insect placentas would be an improvement.

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 10:21 PM (ufJKx)

72 yeah I gotta say, those movie quizzes, they are less about the movies themselves and more about the actors/actresses involved

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:21 PM (7FadD)

73 Though I disagreed with a lot of the films general premise, I thought the opening credit montage to The Watchmen was fantastic. Is is bad that I found myself agreeing with Rorshach a lot?

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at May 19, 2012 10:22 PM (7bLwM)

74 not a high standard. insect placentas would be an improvement.

I'm still holding out for the syphilitic camel

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:22 PM (7FadD)

75 Did somebody have a baby or get married or shit a nice teard??

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:22 PM (SBL+e)

76 That harp humping video was a bit odd.

Posted by: The Jackhole at May 19, 2012 10:22 PM (DU15A)

77 I know it's Saturday and the morons are just getting started, but I can't keep my eyes open. Night, all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM (TRSwo)

78 That ganster quiz was bogus. Who give a flying Obama about what Oliver Stone was doing at any time?

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM (7bLwM)

79 Thanks everybody. It's been a long night, especially since I was on the other side of the country (NYC) when my wife had to go to the hospital in San Diego last night.

Thanks also to all the people who missed their flight this morning so I could fly standby.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM (kgX2S)

80 I got 2 right on the quiz...... Yay me.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM (ZOf1l)

81 Thanks everybody. It's been a long night, especially
since I was on the other side of the country (NYC) when my wife had to
go to the hospital in San Diego last night.



Thanks also to all the people who missed their flight this morning so I could fly standby.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM (kgX2S)


Oh wow! You made it in time?

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 10:24 PM (X6akg)

82 I always liked the opening sequence of the great western "The Professionals". Music by Maurice Jarre and one of the best casts evah! Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Jack Palance, Woody Strode, Ralph Bellamy and Claudia Carinale for a wee bit of crumpet. It also has the best closing line in movie history, IMHO.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 19, 2012 10:24 PM (i+PsO)

83 15
Or are they keeping their powder dry until tomorrow? After all tomorrow evening is an annular eclipse.

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Chicago ain't gonna see it.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (6fER6)

84 I just got a college grad announcement from the son of a friend I haven't seen in person in 3 years, I haven't seen her son in about 7 years. He is graduating with a degree in History and Scandanavian Studies with a minor in Latin and Norwegian.

I guess he is preparing for the evil Scandi invasion or something...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (RZ8pf)

85 That statement by itself is a little scary, if applied too broadly.



Not that there is anything particularly wrong with Jewish Odysseus.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes

I live with someone who tends to spout off about the law.

He is not a lawyer.

It makes me silently frantic.

Posted by: Dianna at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (mKMj1)

86 Here's my own trivia quiz: What was the backstory regarding Clemenza's absence from Godfather II? He wasn't killed in pt. 1 after all.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (7bLwM)

87 D'oh! End italics fail.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (6fER6)

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 10:25 PM (X6akg)

89 RD, great point about the future civil immunity conferred by a win at the SYG hearing!! I forgot about that one! (Course, I'm seldom in the civil court, so don't think too much about it).

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (1X/a4)

90 I know I didn't leave an italic tag open. Who did?

Posted by: Dianna at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (mKMj1)

91 That ganster quiz was bogus.

Agreed.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (7+pP9)

92 “It was one of the most awesome, awe-inspiring and intimidating sights I’ve ever seen,”


Suck it, Liberals. You know the lying traitors just hate it when the U.S. military wins.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (bMLFV)

93 Good thunderstorm going on, earlier had 70mph gusts.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (ZOf1l)

94 wooga, that is quite a journey

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (7FadD)

95 Thanks everybody. It's been a long night, especially since I was on the other side of the country (NYC) when my wife had to go to the hospital in San Diego last night.

Thanks also to all the people who missed their flight this morning so I could fly standby.
Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:23 PM


OK, so we have a new game: what's the over / under for how many days it takes for Wooga to get screamed at for "not being there for the birth"?

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:26 PM (JMmQ9)

96 Here's my own trivia quiz: What was the backstory regarding Clemenza's absence from Godfather II? He wasn't killed in pt. 1 after all.


We can ask him later. He's usually on the ONT.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:27 PM (7yvLv)

97 or General Loggia.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 19, 2012 10:27 PM (cjTjM)

98 Geez. Where are my donations going? KFC?

When is this blog going to get fixed?

Posted by: runninrebel at May 19, 2012 10:27 PM (N/1Dm)

99 Good evening HQ-nation!

Posted by: zeera at May 19, 2012 10:27 PM (fHLmF)

100 27 Best wishes, Wooga!

Posted by: Marybel at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (QGwv0)

101 sorry, just a wee bit jaded and cynical here

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (JMmQ9)

102 I wasn't? Now that explains Barney Miller.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (ZOf1l)

103 Ah dang. Sorry about the quiz. I'll fix that loose shit next weekend.

Posted by: CDR M at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (QaYwz)

104 Wanted to watch "Chronicle" or "The Grey" tonight. Fail. The DVD is out if I wanted to -buy- it (for $17), but I want to go to RedBox and -rent- it ($1.50).

Lame-ass studios with their bullshit money-raking schemes. Well guess what, assholes; I'm going to not rent any of your lousy movies tonight, instead I'm watching DS9 episodes again that I bought 10 years ago.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (QTHTd)

105 At the beginning of the week when I saw the articles about the annular eclipse I told someone that I could all but guarantee that it would be cloudy in Seattle Sunday evening because it is always cloudy in Seattle when there's some sort of celestial event we should be able to observe from here. I am hoping this is one time I am proven wrong because it has been a lovely sunny week here.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (RZ8pf)

106 Thank you for the ONT CDR M.




Posted by: Mike in CFL at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (motsG)

107 Andycanuck, fin du monde is a very strong...lemme check... 9% bottle refermented ale from Quebec. Brewed with some sort of spices that make it very tasty, and way too easy to drink. That 750 I opened an hour ago is now gone.

Wooga, congratulations. Buckle up, enjoy the ride, and mom is always right.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (I/cLr)

108 There was no back story in Godfather II, he was simply dead.

GF I = 5 stars
GF II = 3 stars
GF III = 1 star

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (7+pP9)

109 Vigoda was not Clemenza.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (1X/a4)

110 8 Stossel just coming on now and is titled "Bad Speech" abut political correctness and censorship.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 19, 2012 10:03 PM (piMMO)

I am watching it too!

Evening all!!
First time I have had the air on this year and I cant stop sneezing.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (DGIjM)

111 The only trivia quiz question I want to hear about Oliver Stone was what caliber.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (ZOf1l)

112 I know I didn't leave an italic tag open. Who did? - Dianna

Clemenza. He was always leaving the italic tags open. That's part of the reason why he wasn't in Godfather II.

Or maybe it was Barzini.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (sJTmU)

113 Boulder Toilet Hobo, I take that to mean you do not have Comcast on Demand where both movies are currently available to rent weeks before Netflix or Redbox. (quoting their incessent ads on the subject)

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (RZ8pf)

114 hi Shrimps!
is it allergies? maybe gotta change the filter

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (7FadD)

115 Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:29 PM (1X/a4)


I know, I was just concerned because no one was asking about him today.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (ZOf1l)

116 the movie credit list is missing the pink panther.

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (ufJKx)

117 The Old Sheldon Church ruins near Beaufort, SC. Beautiful place not too far out of the way if you're ever in the area.

The addition of those naughty naught harp twins sort of works out too.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 19, 2012 10:31 PM (rX1N2)

118 BTH there is always Amazon

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:31 PM (7FadD)

119 Let me rephrase re Clemenza. What was real-life reason he wasn't in sequel? I happened to really like GF II.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at May 19, 2012 10:31 PM (7bLwM)

120 I like The I~talics...makes me feel less polish. Then again when you are Italian and Polish there is no where to run. #woploc #tcot #scoamf

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 10:31 PM (SBL+e)

121 114 hi Shrimps!
is it allergies? maybe gotta change the filter
Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:30 PM (7FadD)

hmmm.. a filter change.. good idea. Its been a few months.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:32 PM (DGIjM)

122 CDR M, check this out. http://tinyurl.com/6ttsjjk

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 10:32 PM (Iyg03)

123 Clemenza was given prosecutorial immunity for his testimony against the Corleone family and was placed in the federal witness protection program. Information after that is sketchy, but it is likely that he had a successful career appearing at kids' birthday parties dressed as Zorro.

Posted by: Cicero at May 19, 2012 10:32 PM (qhHI4)

124 I don't think Clemenza and Barzini used italics, they used sicilics.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:33 PM (7yvLv)

125 An annular eclipse? Is that when Michelle's ass blocks out the sun?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:33 PM (FTuxU)

126
Naughty-sounding science words and they left out the A-bomb??

Mother liquor. Top that one, mother liquors!

(Mother liquor is the solution from which a compound crystallizes.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (+/Upq)

127 I am now a dad. Six weeks early, emergency c-section, but mom and son are doing fine.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)

Wow, and congratulations!

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (Io9iG)

128 125
An annular eclipse? Is that when Michelle's ass blocks out the sun?


Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:33 PM (FTuxU)

===
doesn't that occur like 307 times per year?

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (ufJKx)

129 An annular eclipse? Is that when Michelle's ass blocks out the sun?


Yes, similar to the bi-annual eclipse where I get to hang out with Reggie and Kal.

Posted by: Baraka Obama at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (ZOf1l)

130
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:28 PM (RZ8pf)

If you want to be sure about when it's best to view the annular eclipse, ask your proctologist.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (7+pP9)

131 Yeah! For wooga and mrs and baby wooga!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 19, 2012 10:35 PM (axnl4)

132 Oh wow! You made it in time?
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 10:24 PM (X6akg)

_________[Br]Not by a long shot. I got a phone call, and they got the baby out a few minutes later. All sorts of harrowing risks involved, but nothing went wrong. I simply got there the morning after. But already got to hug my boy in the NICU, so I'm not complaining.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:35 PM (kgX2S)

133 instead I'm watching DS9 episodes again that I bought 10 years ago.

Wanna see them on Blu-Ray?

Posted by: Lame-Ass Studios at May 19, 2012 10:35 PM (FcR7P)

134 Ask me about annular collapse.

Posted by: Rep Barney Fwank at May 19, 2012 10:35 PM (qhHI4)

135 Not by a long shot. I got a phone call, and they
got the baby out a few minutes later. All sorts of harrowing risks
involved, but nothing went wrong. I simply got there the morning after.
But already got to hug my boy in the NICU, so I'm not complaining.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:35 PM (kgX2S)


That little guy was in a hurry!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2012 10:36 PM (X6akg)

136 Longest first comment ever?




Bwahahah....


Nomination to the AOS Comment Hall of Fame? Is there a second???

Posted by: NC Ref at May 19, 2012 10:36 PM (/izg2)

137 Screw the Uzi anybody who had combat knows the M-14 is the best battle rifle..

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:36 PM (Epz9+)

138 Thanks, DC in Towson. I'd not heard of it before but not all beers made in Canada are sold in all the provinces equally. Maybe Ontario liquor stores (a provincial monopoly) carry it? The strongest mainstream beers carried here (and in the rest of the country I guess) are 6.5% beers.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:37 PM (FTuxU)

139 not a high standard.

Yea, the grey saucer heads would actually be an improvement in that they're hon est about wanting to destroy everything.

Also best opener Heavy Metal. Pull the chute AFTER the 1st bounce.

Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2012 10:37 PM (ZYrSB)

140 Screw the Uzi anybody who had combat knows the M-14 is the best battle rifle..
Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:36 PM (Epz9+)
-----------------------------------------------
Longbow

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2012 10:37 PM (jucos)

141 Close, Cicero. Actually, with Brando and Sonny killed in GF 1, the actor playing Clememza thought he was the box office draw and tried to hold them up for more money. They declined and simply rewrote him out of the script. Nice career move, tubby.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at May 19, 2012 10:37 PM (7bLwM)

142 would you rather I called it the "ring of fire" eclipse which sounds just as bad.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 19, 2012 10:38 PM (RZ8pf)

143 @124 Any sock useing clemenza before 137 is a mutt signed
clemenza

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:38 PM (Epz9+)

144 Tessio was always smarter.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at May 19, 2012 10:38 PM (qhHI4)

145 Think one of the best opening scenes had to be Roger Moore's Bond opening in "Spy Who Loved Me," when he skiis right off the Alpine cliff...the silence as he falls...ALWAYS LOVED THAT SCENE!!

Heck, see what I mean?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvocyikTnH4

Oh, and Barbara Bach was NICE to look at, too, tho her acting was...weak.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:38 PM (1X/a4)

146 Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)


Congratulations! Baby boys are a hoot.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 19, 2012 10:39 PM (snRY5)

147 Hi, Zeera! You're early tonight, used to seeing you on the ONT just before I'm getting ready to retire for the night.

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 10:40 PM (Io9iG)

148 Oh, and Barbara Bach was NICE to look at, too, tho her acting was...weak.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:38 PM (1X/a4)
-----------------------------------------------------
Ahhhhhhh Bach.

Posted by: Radar at May 19, 2012 10:41 PM (jucos)

149 Congratulations, wooga. Just have him avoid crowds on March 14.

Posted by: IVLIVS CAESAR at May 19, 2012 10:41 PM (FTuxU)

150 I really liked the opening credits for Casino Royale, but I guess there were too many complaints from the Naked Female Silhouettes crowd because be damned if the opening credits for Quantum of Solace wasn't light porn.

NTTAWWT

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 19, 2012 10:41 PM (rX1N2)

151 @ 137

Yes.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 10:43 PM (SAMxH)

152 A good credit sequence (for a mediocre film) would be "Hard Ticket to Hawaii." All the credits appear on boxes in a warehouse as workers move them around.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 19, 2012 10:44 PM (i0App)

153 Yes, Casino Royale opening was great, too! But the 2d or 3d scene in that movie, the parcours chase scene...was WITHOUTADOUBT the awesomest chase scene I ever saw, IMHO.

Holy crapp, the 1st time I watched that, I needed a tranquilizer afterward.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:44 PM (1X/a4)

154 Obama has to answer for Santino.

Posted by: Newly Minted Don Michael Corleone at May 19, 2012 10:44 PM (7bLwM)

155 @144 yes but look what became of Tessio, that is not smat

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:45 PM (Epz9+)

156 Dinner!

Posted by: Dianna at May 19, 2012 10:45 PM (mKMj1)

157 You muttts gotta get off clemenza tonoight

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (Epz9+)

158 #137

Two entirely different weapons with different purposes.

Posted by: epobirs at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (kcfmt)

159 BTW, I'm NOT a homo, but I can't help noticing Sean Connery looks...uhhhh, excited, in that photo above.

Not that any other hetero-man wdn't be, in his position...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (1X/a4)

160 I am now a dad.

Congratulations.

Is your Mom still around and will she pinch his cheek and say,
"wooga, wooga, wooga"

Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (ZYrSB)

161 So I mentioned the other night this stupid story going on in Indiana about 5 seniors who plastered 10k sticky notes all over the high school as a senior prank..(smily faces, 2012 ect..)
They were all suspended (stupid) and the janitor who let them in to do it.. was fired. So then 60 kids protested the suspension and were also suspended.

anyway.. today I was in that little town and people have their mailboxes covered in sticky notes as a sign of support and one guy has a big sign that says "honk of you support the stickies"
Pretty funny backlash from the little town. Made me smile.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (DGIjM)

162 JewishOdysseus, I'll leave the legal aspects to those who have some knowledge, but lets assume charges are dropped or Zim cops to some minor plea. How do you see his future? Any successful suits against the media? Book/movie deals? Hunted like a dog or living high on the hog?

Posted by: cm9000 at May 19, 2012 10:47 PM (lzvtR)

163 okay, all this Godfather talk, so I'm actually going to watch the movie

BB in like 3 hrs

Posted by: chemjeff at May 19, 2012 10:47 PM (7FadD)

164 I'm smaat....not dumb like everyone says...I'm smaat and I want RESPECT!

Posted by: Freddo Corleone at May 19, 2012 10:48 PM (7bLwM)

165 Andycanuck, want I should send you a bottle (or a case)? My email is my nic, minus the spaces at yahoo. Always happy to introduce a Moron to one of my favorites.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 19, 2012 10:48 PM (I/cLr)

166 Watch the whole series, chemjeff. See you Monday.

Posted by: Freddo Corleone at May 19, 2012 10:48 PM (7bLwM)

167 @158 Bullshit you know not combat...

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:49 PM (Epz9+)

168 I love gangster movies but I only got one question right in that quiz... and it was a lucky shot... not that I knew it.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:49 PM (DGIjM)

169 Pretty funny backlash from the little town.

The school needs to back down or the next vote on the school budget might not go their way...

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:51 PM (AWrMW)

170 Electric Harp Duet
****
I'm a lyre...please play me!!!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 10:51 PM (3aXbg)

171 When I was an undergrad up in Potsdam, some guys would drive up to Canada and smuggle back a trunk full of Molson Brador.

A couple of those would get you pretty baked.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (AWrMW)

172 Ooooohhhhh! Ziss new Uzi is somezing, issn't it?

But ve fill haff a hod time letting ko uff our HKs, von't ve?

Nonzence! Ve vas ALL Nazis durink the var, ja?

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (PH+2B)

173 always liked the opening sequence of the great western "The Professionals". ........

It also has the best closing line in movie history, IMHO.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 19, 2012 10:24 PM (i+PsO)





And only Lee Marvin could have pulled off that line.

'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (Rhie+)

174 Thank you very much for the kind offer, DC in Towson, but I don't drink much any more.
:=^(
Yes, I know. A very sad tale.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (FTuxU)

175
WHOA, Campbell Brown got tweaked by reality.




the promise of his campaign four years ago has given way to something
else — a failure to connect with tens of millions of Americans, many of
them women, who feel economic opportunity is gone and are losing hope.
In an effort to win them back, Mr. Obama is trying too hard. He’s
employing a tone that can come across as grating and even condescending.
He really ought to drop it. Most women don’t want to be patted on the
head or treated as wards of the state. They simply want to be given a
chance to succeed based on their talent and skills.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (NC7tr)

176 Do I sound like an asshole liberal if I want every American, British, Canadian and all the other allied troops to get the fuck out of Afghanistan? I don't want to waste another good person in that shithole.


Take off and nuke the place from orbit.

Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 10:53 PM (FEzSe)

177 #167

I expect you also have difficulty understanding the different application intents of a Honda Civic and a Ford Explorer. They're both cars but things get a bit more involved from there.

Posted by: epobirs at May 19, 2012 10:54 PM (kcfmt)

178
Is your Mom still around and will she pinch his cheek and say,
"wooga, wooga, wooga"



Mom is still around and the boy has some super cheeks, for sure.

Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:54 PM (kgX2S)

179 Hey Theresa. Woo woo! posting from home tonight. Work week starts manama

Posted by: zeera at May 19, 2012 10:55 PM (FHr35)

180 Can somebody tell me , why I cannot find info on the Emperor of the USA, I am not asking who killed Kennedy?

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:56 PM (Epz9+)

181 Manana? Tomorrow!

Posted by: zeera at May 19, 2012 10:56 PM (FHr35)

182
Someone dragged that Uzi over a stack of Tapco catalogs......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 10:56 PM (Rhie+)

183 Do I sound like an asshole liberal if I want every American, British,
Canadian and all the other allied troops to get the fuck out of
Afghanistan?


The Russians or Chinese would move in now that we know the place is chock full of mineral wealth. Right now, we're probably just protecting the ability to negotiate mineral exploration and extractions contracts with someone who isn't the Taliban.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:57 PM (AWrMW)

184 Most women don’t want to be patted on the

head or treated as wards of the state.


Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism!



Speak for yourself honey, it works for me.

Posted by: Julia at May 19, 2012 10:57 PM (lzvtR)

185 Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 10:32 PM (Iyg03)

Heh. An oldie but a goodie!

Posted by: CDR M at May 19, 2012 10:57 PM (QaYwz)

186 Good night, morons. Keep yer powder dry.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 19, 2012 10:57 PM (7yvLv)

187 180
Can somebody tell me , why I cannot find info on the Emperor of the USA, I am not asking who killed Kennedy?

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:56 PM (Epz9+)


Am I missing something or are you a loony?

Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 10:58 PM (FEzSe)

188 @177 now I know you are up the rear with a gear nuff said..

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:58 PM (Epz9+)

189 The school needs to back down or the next vote on the school budget might not go their way...
Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:51 PM (AWrMW)

Ha.. yep.

Sad thing is a couple kids will lose their scholarships over being suspended.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:58 PM (DGIjM)

190 There is no Empiror per se, rather an oligarchy with the US govt operating as its front.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 10:59 PM (AWrMW)

191 One out of ten is what ten guesses will get you.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 10:59 PM (FcR7P)

192 Discovery documentary on the AC-130. http://tinyurl.com/3a74epl

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2012 11:00 PM (Iyg03)

193 Potsdam, New York? Did you go to the infamous Clarkson University? I remember getting recruited by them back when I graduated from high school.


Or was it just SUNY at Potsdam? Does the sun EVER shine there?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at May 19, 2012 11:01 PM (sJTmU)

194 Most women don’t want to be patted on the


head or treated as wards of the state.
***
Patting on the head? You are doing it wrong.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 19, 2012 11:01 PM (3aXbg)

195 @187 you media types are all alike

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 11:01 PM (Epz9+)

196 I am not asking who killed Kennedy?
Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 10:56 PM (Epz9+)

After all, it was you and me.

Posted by: Mick Jagger at May 19, 2012 11:01 PM (7bLwM)

197 Can somebody tell me , why I cannot find info on the Emperor of the USA

Because you're from the future and it hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 11:01 PM (FcR7P)

198 CM9000, even if Zim is found guilty of murder, he'd have grounds to sue the news networks and their individual reporters who deliberately falsified info against him, and broadcast those falsifications to the public. Now, in practical terms it might be hard to pursue those lawsuits if he's in prison, but that's a different question.

If he's essentially exonerated, I think he has a bright future, but he's going to need to remain strong as an individual, too, as everything he does will be under the microscope for at least a few years. Books, movie deals? Sure, why not?

None of us is perfect, and very few of us are superman...So expect him to have a few lapses in his life, and have those lapses amplified as "PROOF ZIMMERMAN GOT AWAY WITH MURDER!!"
Oh, well...

I just put my opinion out there as a FL defense attorney, for anything else your guess is as good as mine.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:02 PM (1X/a4)

199 The first hour, and the last half hour of Once Upon a Time in the West is extremely good. But damn it's a leisurely pace. Better than The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2012 11:03 PM (jm4wq)

200 Yes, poster formerly-known as PA, Brador was one of the 6.5% beers (or malt liquor).

The commercial linked below was one that was censored because when it first aired the camera panning ended on the part of the label with "6.5% by volume" written on it and the Ontario government said that it was using its high-alcohol content to sell beer which wasn't allowed. I can't recall if there was a court case or if the government just passed a law saying the alcohol content couldn't be shown in advertising so this is the altered version of the ad.

http://tinyurl.com/b86sk9

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:03 PM (FTuxU)

201 Posted by: wooga at May 19, 2012 10:09 PM (kgX2S)

Congratulations! Glad everyone is well after all that.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 19, 2012 11:03 PM (CQ1cz)

202 #175 Arhooley, woah, indeed!

I'd make the additional comment that the impression I got of O right away was that he was an arrogant, condescending SOB, and everything he's done since his election has only reinforced my impression.

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:03 PM (Io9iG)

203 The Movie Hombre , some of the best script ever...

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 11:05 PM (Epz9+)

204 One out of ten is what ten guesses will get you.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 10:59 PM (FcR7P)


Thaaats wrong, I actually, uh get, uh two or three right, uh on a regular basis.

Posted by: President-check the boxes at May 19, 2012 11:05 PM (lzvtR)

205 @198 JewishOdyessuess

He might get nice settlement money but his future is hardly bright. If he goes free he's got to live in hiding somewhere. Even the President (spit) has called for his head.

Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 11:05 PM (FEzSe)

206 Last night there was talk of the AoSHQ morons on twitter list. I think I found it:

https://twitter.com/#!/AoSHQ_M/aoshq-morons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:05 PM (JMmQ9)

207 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:06 PM (F79HU)

208
The first hour, and the last half hour of Once Upon a Time in the West is extremely good. But damn it's a leisurely pace. Better than The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2012 11:03 PM (jm4wq)







Henry Fonda really did senseless evil well, didn't he? Especially since he made his career with heroic characters.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 11:06 PM (Rhie+)

209 Arhooley, is that a quote from Campbell Brown? When?

"She's off the reservation, shoot at will!"

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:06 PM (1X/a4)

210 JO:

If Zimmerman is found not guilty, is it possible that he can have the broadcasting licenses of the networks and stations that falsified reports about him and otherwise tainted and biased the jury pool?

I wouldn't mind seeing ABC, CBS and NBC off the air for 30 days while their on-air conduct is reviewed ...

Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2012 11:07 PM (am+Le)

211 #205 Fozzy, you may well be right.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:08 PM (1X/a4)

212 Henry Fonda really did senseless evil well, didn't he? Especially since he made his career with heroic characters.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur


YES! And I hate old movies, but damn. Fonda was a real actor, not some low-flying shit eater.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2012 11:08 PM (ebPtk)

213 #205

There are a fair number of people who look a lot like him. I wouldn't be surprised if there has already been an assault on that basis, especially in the south-east.

Posted by: epobirs at May 19, 2012 11:09 PM (kcfmt)

214
Arhooley, is that a quote from Campbell Brown? When?



"She's off the reservation, shoot at will!"
---------------------

Yeah, I found it at Hot Gas. It's in the NY Times. Chalk it up as friendly advice from someone who isn't going anywhere but is scared about the indies.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 11:10 PM (NC7tr)

215 For the best opening sequence might I suggest the 15 minute long squeaking windmill, fly on the face , water dripping onto the hat of Once Upon A Time in the West? 15 minutes of tension.

Posted by: joe in houston at May 19, 2012 11:11 PM (MnSla)

216 Or was it just SUNY at Potsdam?

Yes. They had a pretty decent CompSci program at the time, and of course the Crane school of music.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 11:11 PM (AWrMW)

217
I'd make the additional comment that the impression I
got of O right away was that he was an arrogant, condescending SOB, and
everything he's done since his election has only reinforced my
impression.


Posted by: Theresa
-------------------

The bastard needs lessons in pandering, but I'm sure he feels he does a better job than his professional hired panderers.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 19, 2012 11:11 PM (NC7tr)

218 AC-130 "Spooky"

This is one bad MFer! They only built 47. I don't think all are still in service.


http://tinyurl.com/74sa44t

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 19, 2012 11:11 PM (hXJOG)

219
If Zimmerman is found not guilty, is it possible that he can have
the broadcasting licenses of the networks and stations that falsified
reports about him and otherwise tainted and biased the jury pool?
***
The Zimmerman case will be litigated for years. And if the Republicans in FL aren't doing anything now, they won't then either.

The best you can hope for, in regards to the State Media is that a few people become more skeptical.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:11 PM (3aXbg)

220 149
Congratulations, wooga. Just have him avoid crowds on March 14.
**

Great!! Just what we need..another Mo-Ron...
*
Yeesh

Posted by: dananjcon the job nazi at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (SBL+e)

221
<i>the promise of his campaign four years ago has given way to something else — a failure to connect with tens of millions of Americans, many of them women, </i>

Women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Sorry, but there it is. There are sensible women, but then there are sensible 16 year olds (e.g., my son) too. We're talking proportions here. Too many women are too gullible, and think with their lady parts, and were instrumental in saddling us with Jugears.I'm sorry, but that's how I see it.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (+/Upq)

222 Clemenza was in The Godfather II.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (szK9l)

223 #206, Cool, thanks.

I'm also on Twitter. I'm Theresa Smith @TeeDee1

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (Io9iG)

224 https://twitter.com/#!/AoSHQ_M/aoshq-morons
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:05 PM (JMmQ9)

I just added my self to that list..

@hoosierclinger

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (DGIjM)

225 #210

Doubt it. They have plenty of experience in designating scapegoats and attributing blame. Those three who were fired will be treated as sole actors at their locations who took everyone else for fools.

If the chutzpah is running high the networks will come up with heroes within their ranks who exposed these villains.

Posted by: epobirs at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (kcfmt)

226 Arbalest, I think the only time something like this happened was the reporting about Richard Jewell as a suspect in the 1996 Olympic bombings...They were WRONG, he started to sue them, but he died before he got anything, IIRC... :- (

Zim's case is MUCH more egregious, IMHO. These media mofos actually fabricated items against him, deliberately and with actual malice, and then got caught, confessed, and were fired. How is that not open and shut? And I bet ACTUAL damages can be shown to be substantial, not to mention punitive. And they cd be sued in various venues, under various theories (not my specialties, tho)...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (1X/a4)

227 "Hit with a sock filled with shit" Secret of Santa Vitoria..

Posted by: clemenza at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (Epz9+)

228 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (3aXbg)

229 Great jumping jeeebus, a disgustingly looong Obama ad was just on...or maybe it only SEEMED like it was 45 minutes? "ALL HAIL OUR NATIONAL SAVIOR!!"

Pass the dramamine, please...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (1X/a4)

230 Evening, scalliwags and ne'er-do-wells.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 19, 2012 11:14 PM (+ZI77)

231
Saw some beautiful cars today at the car show, one in particular stands out, a '56 Mercury Montclair. They were the top line model for Mercury, and this one was spectacular.

Teal green and white, with matching interior, done perfectly. Just gorgeous.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (SAMxH)

232 Zeera, so you start work on Sundays. My work week is Tuesday through Saturday, but I often work both Sundays and Mondays. I work from home so I have lots of flexibility.

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (Io9iG)

233 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?


Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (3aXbg)

A Harley?

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (F79HU)

234 #201 Great impression of Alfred Hitchcock, Robert!

Can you do Bela Lugosi too?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (FTuxU)

235 Howdy Joffen!

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (F79HU)

236 230
Evening, scalliwags and ne'er-do-wells.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 19, 2012 11:14 PM (+ZI77)

===
I have never wagged a scalli and I have never snapped a whipper. I feel very left out.

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (ufJKx)

237 Oops. Meant #207, Robert.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (FTuxU)

238 And they cd be sued in various venues, under various theories (not my specialties, tho)...

Study up; all you need is one victory and you're set for life. And you're going against Harvard grads so you already know they're lying.

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (FcR7P)

239 I'm also on Twitter. I'm Theresa Smith @TeeDee1
Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (Io9iG)

I just followed you!!!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (DGIjM)

240 Can you do Bela Lugosi too?


Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (FTuxU)

I'll need a cape.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (F79HU)

241 The thing about women is when they do finally turn on someone its 100%, stick a steak knife in their chest, and never look back. Guys are a lot more waffley and give people second chances and shit even when they know its not going to work out.


Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (AWrMW)

242 A Harley?
***
Umm...you have an interesting take on bicycles...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:17 PM (3aXbg)

243 Hey Robert. How's it hangin'?

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 19, 2012 11:17 PM (+ZI77)

244  










No
U.S. soldier has been killed by enemy airpower since 1952. I wonder how long
that record will stand with the
average age of the Air Force's airplanes now over 23 years.



The
Federal gov't spends so much on shit it shouldn't be doing that it doesn't have
enough money to spend on the things that it should be doing.





Posted by: Arms Merchant at May 19, 2012 11:17 PM (+XVQe)

245 I have never wagged a scalli and I have never snapped a whipper. I feel very left out.


Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (ufJKx)

I see you're not denying ever doing a n'er-well.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:17 PM (F79HU)

246 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM


I'm into my 29th year with my Ross Mt.Washington. I have beaten the living siht out of that bike and it just keeps on going.

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:18 PM (JMmQ9)

247 Umm...you have an interesting take on bicycles...


Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:17 PM (3aXbg)

My take is that a Harley will net you the most poon.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:18 PM (F79HU)

248 240
Can you do Bela Lugosi too?




Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:15 PM (FTuxU)

I'll need a cape.


Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:16 PM (F79HU)

===
once you get your cape all you will have to do is wear your underwear outside your pants and you will become a superhero.

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (ufJKx)

249 Whoop, I guess I'm out earlier than I thought.

Be back later.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (F79HU)

250 @1

Thanks for that JewishOdysseus.

I knew we'd find us another smart joo on the blog besides Thurman North.

Good stuff!

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (hXJOG)

251 Thanks, JJS! I thought I was already following you but I wasn't. Just did. I love Twitter, but I get so confused, sometimes. Too many birthdays, I guess.

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (Io9iG)

252 I'll need a cape.
You're not wearing one now?

I thought this was the formal ONT--capes mandatory; pants optional?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (FTuxU)

253 Wow, that cut and paste really sucked.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at May 19, 2012 11:20 PM (+XVQe)

254 I had a Ross 30 years ago. A decent quality bike. Not cheap, but not crazy money either, and it was pretty easy to do little upgrades to.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 19, 2012 11:20 PM (AWrMW)

255 Billy Bob, ain't it "Truman"? Thurman was the great Yankees catcher, tragically killed in a crash of a small plane he was piloting

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:21 PM (1X/a4)

256 252
I'll need a cape.
You're not wearing one now?

I thought this was the formal ONT--capes mandatory; pants optional?


Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:19 PM (FTuxU)

===
Now I understand your hash.

Posted by: jc at May 19, 2012 11:21 PM (ufJKx)

257 BTW, thanks Billy Bob, I didn't even suspect Truman was a fellow member of the tribe!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:22 PM (1X/a4)

258 Oooh, I can do a Cary Grant impersonation! "Judy, Judy, Judy!"

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:22 PM (Io9iG)

259 wooga, congrats.

JO, thanks for that informative 1st post. I ought to copy it now to quote from later, but I'm a lazy slob.

Nice ONT CDR M.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2012 11:23 PM (cHZB7)

260 222 Clemenza was in The Godfather II.
Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2012 11:12 PM (szK9l)

Not the original (older Clemenza). His character was replaced in GF 2 by Frankie Pentangeli. Bruno Kirby played young Clemenza.

Posted by: Mick Jagger at May 19, 2012 11:23 PM (7bLwM)

261 226 JO

So, Dan Rather is in the process of being forgotten. Ouch.

Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2012 11:23 PM (am+Le)

262
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 10:46 PM (DGIjM)

These highly educated professional educators are the biggest bunch of idiots and self centered jerks. Some of the things I hear about where kids get suspended are ridiculous. Zero Tolerance, sounds more like zero intelligence.

Thank God I graduated in the 1970's. I was a "good" kid, but some of the stuff we did and got caught doing was as stupid as the stickys. We were lectured at and told not to do it again. I'd probably end up doing hard time with a criminal record now a days for some of the stuff we did in Advanced Chemistry ("inch and orch") and Advanced Physics.

We learned a lot about oxidizers, acids and bases. We found some metals will oxidize extremely rapidly, and demonstrated using small quantities.

The teachers trusted us no to do anything stupid, ie damage the school or injure anyone, and usually graded papers duringduring labs. "If you have trouble, come find me in the lab storage room." I learned more about Chemistry and had harder tests in High School than I had in 2 years of College Chemistry.

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 11:24 PM (9sUlj)

263 No U.S. soldier has been killed by enemy airpower since 1952. I wonder how long
that record will stand with the
average age of the Air Force's airplanes now over 23 years.



Are you sure about that? The Soviet pilots were shooting down a lot of Americans during Vietnam. I doubt they all lived.




Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 11:24 PM (FEzSe)

264 Hey, SNL is coming on in a few minutes...I think I'll check it (1st time in months) to see if they have anything on the 1st ghey Prez...

Bet they DO NOT!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:25 PM (1X/a4)

265 Too many women are too gullible, and think with their lady parts, and were instrumental in saddling us with Jugears
***
There are two intertwined issues.

1) We've bought into the notion that it is ok for the government to spend money on anything, not just the functions defined in the Constitution.

2) We've allowed people who don't pay into the system and have only limited interest in the success of the US as a whole to have just as much of a voice in politics as those who have a vested stake.

Now the interesting thing is that we made the transition on the first issue around the time that women got the franchise - we'd been moving on the latter for some time before that.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:26 PM (3aXbg)

266
Are you sure about that? The Soviet pilots were shooting down a lot of Americans during Vietnam. I doubt they all lived.




Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 11:24 PM (FEzSe)


Soldier, he said, soldier. AKA a dud on the ground

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 19, 2012 11:26 PM (KmWcF)

267 +1 Theresa. (And it shows who all the older folks are here--or those who at least are old enough to have watched Flintstones cartoons as kids.)

And my new hash is interesting and better than past ones I've had. (My ISP resets every now and then--especially after thunderstorms.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:27 PM (FTuxU)

268 I HOPE our soldiers aren't "duds!" [Well, maybe John Kerry...]

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:27 PM (1X/a4)

269 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for? Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM

What type?

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:27 PM (PPdh6)

270 My take is that a Harley will net you the most poon

Some of it might even come with a tooth!

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:28 PM (PPdh6)

271 Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 19, 2012 11:26 PM (KmWcF)


Oooh. I get it. I saw the sentence and my brain translated soldier into pilot for some reason.


Posted by: fozzy at May 19, 2012 11:28 PM (FEzSe)

272 And please just ignore the troll.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2012 11:28 PM (FTuxU)

273 You know what is really fun? Going to Spacebattles and messing with the resident lefties there. The Walker maps provided here have given me wonderful tools with which to crush the spirits of the leftwingers.

Join in the fun. Go to Spacebattles, register, go to the Non Scifi debates forum, and then post stories by ACE and or other fellow Morons (make sure to provide a link to help bring in some traffic here). Then sit back and listen to the wailing and lamentations from the left.



Posted by: southdakotaboy at May 19, 2012 11:29 PM (Ur6Wj)

274
My take is that a Harley will net you the most poon.
***
If that was the goal I'd buy a flashier car.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:29 PM (3aXbg)

275 agreed, PA.

Every couple of years, I start thinking I'll get a new bike, but I never do. All the new bikes feel all "wobbly" to me.

Steel, baby. Gotta have a steel frame. Of course, the bike weighs as much as two "modern" mountain bikes combined, and I keep threatening to swap out the chain ring and gear set to upgrade it to at least an 18-speed (yes, it's a 10-speed. Get off my lawn). The only thing that has ever really broken on it is the seat post clamp bolt, but that was because some dumbass (me) over-torqued it.

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:29 PM (JMmQ9)

276 272
My take is that a Harley will net you the most poon



Some of it might even come with a tooth!


Well, they all come with tattoos.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at May 19, 2012 11:30 PM (hXJOG)

277 I'm into my 29th year with my Ross Mt.Washington

Isn't that a steel frame? If so, it must ride like a bowl of soup by now!

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:30 PM (PPdh6)

278
Fonda was amazing. Likewise, the evil-looking Van Cleef was a better protagonistthan villian.
http://youtu.be/Y-rFT-uHm4w
These shoot-outs aren't long. Every shot provides information relevant to the character.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2012 11:30 PM (jm4wq)

279 Good thunderstorm going on, earlier had 70mph gusts.

If you were a Liberal, you'd be freaking out about how the weather has never been this bad before.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:30 PM (bMLFV)

280 We learned a lot about oxidizers, acids and bases. We found some metals
will oxidize extremely rapidly, and demonstrated using small quantities.


The
teachers trusted us no to do anything stupid, ie damage the school or
injure anyone, and usually graded papers duringduring labs. "If you have
trouble, come find me in the lab storage room."


That sounds a lot like my Chemistry class. We were also good kids (about 15% of my HS class ended up with science/math/engineering type degrees), but when I think of what we did it really is kind of frightening.

Posted by: someone at May 19, 2012 11:31 PM (bqjJT)

281 What type?
***
Well, it will be intended for a mix of light off road and road.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:31 PM (3aXbg)

282 Agree.

The SMLE is a battle rifle, as is the M1, the 03A3, the Mauser 98, the M14, the Mosin...anything using a full power cartridge.

The M16 is an assault rifle.

Posted by: minutemen for Mitt (formerly trainer) until the JEF is gone at May 19, 2012 11:32 PM (DGxyd)

283 Opening SNL scene was a takeoff of the Lawrence Welk Show...Nothing like staying relevant...

Show is 110% worthless.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 19, 2012 11:34 PM (1X/a4)

284 Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:31 PM (3aXbg)

Look at RaleighCyclocross bikes. Scott makes a pretty nice and affordable cross bike as well.

If you want a more relaxed riding position, both make a nice 29" Mtn Bike as well. You can set them up to ride almost anyway you want.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:34 PM (PPdh6)

285 Yep, andycanuck, I am far above the average age of the 'rons and 'ettes who post here.

The Cary Grant bit was one of my dad's favorite jokes, and something I'll always remember about him. He'd say "Want to hear me impersonate a movie star? How about Cary Grant?"

That is quite the hash you have there, I like it!

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:34 PM (Io9iG)

286 I have this feeling that Zimmerman will never be tried... no case.

IfZ is tried, I expect that the jury will findhim not guilty on all counts.

I then expect to hearthemonstrously-enormous legal team of George Zimmerissuingthis press release:http://tinyurl.com/628g2c

Posted by: Arbalest at May 19, 2012 11:34 PM (am+Le)

287 276

My take is that a Harley will net you the most poon.
***
If that was the goal I'd buy a flashier car.


I don't own a Harley, but I do alright with my 87 slant nose turbo Porsche.

Mine is silver with red interior. Like these. German redneck GTO. (10MPG)



http://tinyurl.com/6rkcsvu

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at May 19, 2012 11:35 PM (hXJOG)

288 Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 11:24 PM (9sUlj)

The whole thing is just so stupid. These are good farm kids.
I think the Principle needs to find a new job. He obviously has lost his sense of humor.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:35 PM (DGIjM)

289 Isn't that a steel frame? If so, it must ride like a bowl of soup by now!

All steel, garrett. Rides like a Cadillac.

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:35 PM (JMmQ9)

290 And how much should I be looking to pay for a decent bike?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:36 PM (3aXbg)

291 Good thunderstorm going on, earlier had 70mph gusts.



If you were a Liberal, you'd be freaking out about how the weather has never been this bad before.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:30 PM (bMLFV)


Its obviously a result of climate-change, you Reich-wing idiots just don't believe in science.

Posted by: a Liberal at May 19, 2012 11:37 PM (lzvtR)

292 All steel, garrett. Rides like a Cadillac.

Dude, retire that poor thing...it's lived the life of 6 bikes!?
Besides, you won't believe what you can get for under$1000 these days.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:38 PM (PPdh6)

293 Here are pictures of the sticky notes that were put all over that school.
I think its a clever senior prank.

http://tinyurl.com/7muo5l9

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:38 PM (DGIjM)

294 18-1: you can ride a road bike on the road, you can ride a mountain bike anywhere

Plus, you have to wear all that spandex crap to properly ride a road bike

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:38 PM (JMmQ9)

295 Lesbian Couple Charged With Staging Hate Crime

A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been
arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.

http://tinyurl.com/6mntpve

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:39 PM (3aXbg)

296 Opening SNL scene was a takeoff of the Lawrence Welk Show...Nothing like staying relevant...

The only person I know of who still watches Lawrence Welk is a 97 year old lady who lives in a nursing home.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:40 PM (bMLFV)

297 The SMLE is a battle rifle, as is the M1, the 03A3, the Mauser 98, the M14, the Mosin...anything using a full power cartridge.

The M16 is an assault rifle.
Posted by: minutemen for Mitt (formerly trainer) until the JEF is gone at May 19, 2012 11:32 PM (DGxyd)


ummmm,
don't see it the same way.

'assault rife' is a political term

I had a M16A1 in the service and no mutha fukka ever told me to grab my assault rifle

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 19, 2012 11:40 PM (KmWcF)

298 I didn't miss any on the quiz!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:40 PM (eQnzo)

299 And how much should I be looking to pay for a decent bike?

I wouldn't spend less than $750.00 if you plan to spend a decent ammount of time in the saddle...but the sweet spot is around $1k.
Now, if you know what you want, you can get great deals on lightly used one and two year old bikes on Craigslit. It'll drop the price by at least 1/3.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:40 PM (PPdh6)

300 Here are pictures of the sticky notes that were put all over that school. I think its a clever senior prank.

When I was in HS, one of the seniors rode his motorcycle down the hallway one afternoon. Seconds later,the Vice Principal ran down the hallway after him. It was pretty epic. He didn't get suspended.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:42 PM (bMLFV)

301 If they make Whiskey Dick Lube in Glenfiddich flavor, I might just have to become Gay.

Posted by: OxyCon at May 19, 2012 11:43 PM (ur8o6)

302 Plus, you have to wear all that spandex crap to properly ride a road bike

You have to wear ghey shit to do just about anything...camo to hunt, waders to fish...as long as you don't do anything but ride in the stuff there's nothing wrong with spandex. Now, the assholes who lounge around in the stuff are annoying as all hell.
Tomorrow I'll be doing my first century ride of the year. Nothing worse than the last 15 miles of a 100 miler.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:44 PM (PPdh6)

303 Dude, retire that poor thing...it's lived the life of 6 bikes!?
Besides, you won't believe what you can get for under$1000 these days.
Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:38 PM


I've tried, garrett. But ever time I ride it I think "I can't quit you"

Seriously? a $200 bike from Walmart would (technically) be an improvement.

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 19, 2012 11:44 PM (JMmQ9)

304 >>>Lesbian Couple Charged With Staging Hate Crime

A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been

arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.


My default assumption is that any "hate crime" is fake/staged. Works in at least 90% of the cases.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 19, 2012 11:44 PM (lzvtR)

305 Steel is stiff of course compared to aluminum. Carbon fiber is like silk

100% of this is wrong. Really.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:45 PM (PPdh6)

306
someone at May 19, 2012 11:31 PM (bqjJT)

The teachers we had expected us to learn back then. They were not baby sitters. The chemistry instructor had us clean all his lab glass ware. All of it. We used a nasty red concoction for the finally cleaning. Being the callous person I was, I called it Jonestown Koolaid after the communist psycho that killed all the People's Temple people in Guyana...

But we learned a lot about how to use lab glassware to distill, react, seperate and a bunch of other processes I do not remember. We also helped him clean up the chemical storage area. Nowadays it would be considered a Haz Mat site. He had things like nicotine, DDT, some really bizarre organic chemicals, and some radioactive chemicals too.

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 11:45 PM (9sUlj)

307 But ever time I ride it I think "I can't quit you"

**Sniff**
I miss Reggie.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 19, 2012 11:47 PM (PPdh6)

308 #227, JJS, sheesh!

Back when I was in high school and dirt was new, some kids from our rival school put a rotting pig's carcass on the steps at the entrance to our school. The superintendent discovered who had done it, somehow, and the only thing that happened was they had to do some community service.

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:47 PM (Io9iG)

309 A lesbian couple who claimed they were victims of a hate crime have been

arrested after police determined they staged the incidents.


Its part of a proud history of "progressives" staging fake hate crimes to be pinned on conservatives. Their problem is that conservatives don't actually fit the Leftard caricature by regularly beating up gays, lesbians, blacks, muslims, etc. So it becomes necessary to fake the crimes to "prove" that the Right is as bad as the Left imagines they are.

It's a great example of how detached from reality the "reality-based community" really is. Every moderately intelligent conservative understands leftists thoroughly; they don't understand us at all.

Posted by: Cicero at May 19, 2012 11:47 PM (qhHI4)

310 The M16 is an assault rifle.
Posted by: minutemen for Mitt (formerly trainer) until the JEF is gone at May 19, 2012 11:32 PM (DGxyd)

Name me a defense rifle.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at May 19, 2012 11:48 PM (/vpKR)

311 129
An annular eclipse? Is that when Michelle's ass blocks out the sun?


Yes, similar to the bi-annual eclipse where I get to hang out with Reggie and Kal.


Posted by: Baraka Obama at May 19, 2012 10:34 PM (ZOf1l)

***************
Wouldn't that be the bi-anal eclipse?

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:49 PM (eQnzo)

312 Honest question here. Always dangerous, I know...

Does anyone know the behind-the-scenes of a gun purchase check in Fla? I'm trying to figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:51 PM (eQnzo)

313 301
Opening SNL scene was a takeoff of the Lawrence Welk Show...Nothing like staying relevant...



The only person I know of who still watches Lawrence Welk is a 97 year old lady who lives in a nursing home.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:40 PM (bMLFV)

I'm guessing Lorne Michaels must still watch it to think a LW skit would be relevant.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 19, 2012 11:52 PM (1grxW)

314 back whe I was in school, when dirt was new, some kids whote their team name using deisel in a weed sprayer in an opponents HS grass football field.



BTW, deisel kills any plant, cept' trees

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 19, 2012 11:52 PM (KmWcF)

315 Good evening everyone!

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 19, 2012 11:52 PM (R5yLq)

316
So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (3aXbg)



Wheels. Definitely make sure it has wheels.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 11:53 PM (Rhie+)

317 On Friday I saw the Old Sheldon Church in Garden and Guns now its here in the Harp video.

Posted by: tmitsss at May 19, 2012 11:53 PM (g2dUc)

318 Jewish Odysseus, is it true that Mick Jagger is hosting SNL tonight or is somebody pulling my leg?

Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:54 PM (Io9iG)

319
Ive owned all 3 bikes. Have 4 of them hanging in the garage










Your math skills confuse and frighten me.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2012 11:54 PM (Rhie+)

320 Ive owned all 3 bikes. Have 4 of them hanging in the garage

That doesn't make you any more informed, apparently.
I have owned dozens of bikes...in fact, that's an understatement.
Mountain, Road, Cross, BMX...you name it. Everything from production to custom.
Everything you posted is wrong.Absolute horseshit.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2012 11:54 PM (PPdh6)

321
Opening credits for Dr. Strangelove were some of my favorites.

Posted by: Jinxthecat at May 19, 2012 11:55 PM (bwmF+)

322 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (3aXbg)



Wheels. Definitely make sure it has wheels.


Streamers and a bell are good too.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 19, 2012 11:55 PM (qhHI4)

323 315 #227, JJS, sheesh!

Back when I was in high school and dirt was new, some kids from our rival school put a rotting pig's carcass on the steps at the entrance to our school. The superintendent discovered who had done it, somehow, and the only thing that happened was they had to do some community service.
Posted by: Theresa at May 19, 2012 11:47 PM (Io9iG)

GROSS!!

My class stole for sale signs and put them in front of the school.
the class ahead of mine put dog shit in the vents.

and 2 years before they burned the year in the foot ball field.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:55 PM (DGIjM)

324
Streamers and a bell are good too.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 19, 2012 11:55 PM (qhHI4)



And a banana seat!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 19, 2012 11:56 PM (Rhie+)

325 Does anyone know the behind-the-scenes of a gun purchase check in Fla? I'm trying to figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.
Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:51 PM (eQnzo)

well the NRA is trying to prevent a permanent list, but the beauracracy sees it diffrent,

so it depends

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 19, 2012 11:56 PM (KmWcF)

326
Imagine
if Obama
were a Republican
It's astounding how big of a lie the MSM foisted on everyone. Can you imagine a conservative getting away with a small fraction of this shit? Yeah, his publisher screwed up and MADE UP the biographical detail that Obama was born in Kenya. He didn't tell them that.
Release the college transcripts. I want to see how long Obama claimed to be born in Kenya and what special quota perks he scammed out of it.
He's no American, not in his head, heart, or actions. And he's the motherfucking POTUS.

Posted by: Z Ryan at May 19, 2012 11:57 PM (tsC/8)

327 #322

I used to think Saturday Night Live was funny. I don't know if it's because I got older or maybe the show got dumber but I don't care for it anymore.

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 19, 2012 11:57 PM (R5yLq)

328 When I was in HS, one of the seniors rode his motorcycle down the hallway one afternoon. Seconds later,the Vice Principal ran down the hallway after him. It was pretty epic. He didn't get suspended.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 19, 2012 11:42 PM (bMLFV)

hahahha

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 19, 2012 11:58 PM (DGIjM)

329 Jewish Odysseus, is it true that Mick Jagger is hosting SNL tonight or is somebody pulling my leg?Posted by: Theresa

heh:

GregGutfeld ‏@greggutfeld
its awesome seeing Helen Mirren hosting SNL

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2012 11:59 PM (ebPtk)

330 "Its part of a proud history of "progressives" staging fake hate crimes to be pinned on conservatives. "

The Reichstag fire, 1933...The Kirov assassination, 1934...The Arkansas black church burnings of [never happened]...

Notice how non-socialists are never committing violent provocations...socialists are always planning, and committing them...yet the socialists are constantly ACCUSING US of it?

And when the commies kill anti-commie Kennedy, they immediately accuse the anti-commies of doing it...FOREVER.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:00 AM (1X/a4)

331 338 When I was in HS, one of the seniors rode his motorcycle down the
hallway one afternoon. Seconds later,the Vice Principal ran down the
hallway after him. It was pretty epic. He didn't get suspended.

Posted by: katya,
___

That's hilarious!

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 12:00 AM (Io9iG)

332 18-1:
What type of riding will you be doing?
I hace a Giant FCR that I like a lot. It's a 'fitness bike'. That basically means thin racing tires with a straight handlebar. I really enjoy it.

Posted by: PHAT at May 20, 2012 12:01 AM (7rP1z)

333 Yes, Mick Jagger is on right now, no joke. But he was not in the dumm opening skit.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:01 AM (1X/a4)

334 When I was in HS, one of the seniors rode his motorcycle down the
hallway one afternoon. Seconds later,the Vice Principal ran down the
hallway after him. It was pretty epic. He didn't get suspended.


When I was in high school the senior prank involved somebody collecting fiberglass figures from various local business. The next morning Bob's Big Boy, a big chicken and a herd of plastic cows graced the roof of the administration building.

Heads rolled for that one.

Posted by: Cicero at May 20, 2012 12:01 AM (qhHI4)

335 In 2008, I lived in Sacramento. My son was a freshman.

Anyway.. that senior class took trucks went into the mountains and got a bunch of snow and put it in front of every door and the parking lot entrance.
Of course it was melted within a few hours.

Anyway, being from Indiana a couple inches of melting snow is no big deal. but to the Principle he issued an alert that it was a DANGER to the kids.

A danger.. seriously.. melting snow is a DANGER! run for your life!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:02 AM (DGIjM)

336 Thanks, weft, didn't want to get out of my comfy chair and turn the TV on to see. Hate SNL, but kinda like Mick. ;/

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 12:02 AM (Io9iG)

337
I'm trying to figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.
Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:51 PM (eQnzo)




Fact is, the only reasonably sure way to keep your name off of some government gun list is to buy face-to-face for cash (assuming it's legal in your state, of course). Even if you buy an 80% receiver to complete yourself (legal pretty much everywhere because it isn't yet a firearm), there's probably a record somewhere of the transaction. Credit card, business records of the purchase etc.

If there's a paper/computer record of ANY part of the transaction, a sufficiently motivated gov't is gonna find it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 12:02 AM (Rhie+)

338 Heads rolled for that one.
Posted by: Cicero at May 20, 2012 12:01 AM (qhHI4

LOL.

Hilarious.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:02 AM (DGIjM)

339 They were not baby sitters.

Posted by: rd at May 19, 2012 11:45 PM (9sUlj)


We probably needed a bit more supervision. Being young and stupid and fully sure of our immortality, lack of babysitting led to what became known as "the gunpowder incident." No one was hurt, but the firetrucks did respond.

Posted by: someone at May 20, 2012 12:03 AM (bqjJT)

340 Oooh, must check it out!

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 12:03 AM (Io9iG)

341 So I don't see a ton of MT bikes on Craigslist;

$325 Gary Fisher Tassajara Mountain Bike.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2012 12:03 AM (3aXbg)

342 Giant offers a lot of bang for the buck regardless of the style of bike you choose. They have a ridiculous buying advantage over a lot of the other companies and it shows in their spec'd parts.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:03 AM (PPdh6)

343 Theresa; Sun - Thur. Friday morning is Friday night. But I commute, over 500 miles a week. Not that I'm complaining...it's good to get a FT gig...

Posted by: zeera at May 20, 2012 12:04 AM (FHr35)

344 So I'm thinking of buying a new bicycle. What should I look for?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2012 11:13 PM (3aXbg)


pretty ribbons blowing from the handle bars.. and a basket.. dont forget the basket.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:05 AM (DGIjM)

345 So I don't see a ton of MT bikes on Craigslist;

Don't just look local. Once you know what you want you can look all over the country.
Almost any bike shop will pack and ship for @ $75.00. Try looking in cycling specific locations like thedesert SW (Az. Ut. Co.).

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:06 AM (PPdh6)

346 336

Imagine
if Obama
were a Republican
It's astounding how big
of a lie the MSM foisted on everyone. Can you imagine a conservative
getting away with a small fraction of this shit? Yeah, his publisher
screwed up and MADE UP the biographical detail that Obama was born in
Kenya. He didn't tell them that.
Release the college transcripts. I
want to see how long Obama claimed to be born in Kenya and what special
quota perks he scammed out of it.
He's no American, not in his head, heart, or actions. And he's the motherfucking POTUS.

Posted by: Z Ryan at May 19, 2012 11:57 PM (tsC/

====
If we ever see the transcripts I predict 3 things will all be present:
1) something like what you just wrote. At one time represented himself in some manner totally different than his present day story.
2) he never took a remotely hard class in his life. I predict that every single one of his classes can be summed up with "gauge the instructor's opinion and repeat it for him/her. We used to call them cupcake classes. My guess is he made an entire career out of cupcake. I'll wager $0.25 his transcript doesn't even include a real algebra class.
3) even though he just took cupcake classes, his grades were still shitty.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 12:07 AM (ufJKx)

347 Redneque, I've bought only 2 in FL (both in pawn shops), but had to fill out paperwork to go to the Feds, for the waiting period...But I think it was just a day or 2 wait, not a week.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:07 AM (1X/a4)

348
bitch, what about egg beaters?







The crank egg beaters are effective, but a bit clunky. Also, they're a bitch to clean properly. Whisks work well, of course, but they're rather tiring. Frankly, I just use a fork.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 12:07 AM (Rhie+)

349 I have a bike made out of cast zinc. Unbelievable flexibility.

I once used it to jump 30 homeless people on the Santa Monica Boardwalk.

Posted by: Tommy Wobbleshitts at May 20, 2012 12:08 AM (93pSZ)

350 what about egg beaters?

I don't like them.I ride on Time (Mt)and Shimano (road)pedals.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:08 AM (PPdh6)

351 Hate SNL, but kinda like Mick. Posted by: Theresa

Sorry! Jagger was on, and 'Guflied' is a prankster. I should have added a '/' or sarc tag ~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 20, 2012 12:08 AM (ebPtk)

352
321
Honest question here. Always dangerous, I know...

Does anyone
know the behind-the-scenes of a gun purchase check in Fla? I'm trying to
figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.


Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:51 PM (eQnzo)


Your intent is already on the permanent record (internet) - get your boomstick.

Posted by: Kermit at May 20, 2012 12:09 AM (7MFxV)

353 Bike frames: some oddpieces of informationthat can be useful

Steel, in the thickness and heat-treat levels used, is usually slightly more flexible than aluminum. This usually makes the ride is a bit less harsh, although you have to have done a lot of riding to tell. As long as the steel does not rust, it wil last more or less forever. $1000 still seems to buy a good quality bike (frame components), something that will last very many years.

I have a Bianchi Eros, with Campagnolo Athena equipment (Chorus rear hub). I paid just under $1000.00, in 1998. I spent a few weeks readig the bike magazines and looking at what the dealers had ... this really made a lot of sense at the time, and the only thing I'd change today is the saddle (perhaps a new one with the cut-out). Steel really does make a lot of sense.

Titanium is also quite good, but costlier than steel. Last time I checked, titanium-framed bikes started at just over $2000.00. It doesn't rust, but the price difference ...

Aluminum-framed bikes are usually stiffer, since larger diameter and.or thicker sections must be used. Alumnum has a fatigue life; ride the bike "enough" and the frame will eventually give up. "Enough" depends on usage: smooth roads cause much less fatigue than cobblestones, which is less than doing a lot of rock-hopping, but the bike is usually traded or sold before "enough" happens, due to the frequent condition of "new equipment needed".

Klein, for example,makes excellent aluminum road bikes; plan on spending a lot. However, they are engineered to last a very long time.

Carbon fiber is excellent, but costly. The early failures (1980s: usually a fork breaking, sometimes the carbon-fiber-to-metal-joining-mechanism giving up ... and the failure mode gae no warning back then) now happen extremely rarely, if ever.

There is a chance that carbon really will be the material of the future; there are many advantages to being able to mold ... but you're looking today.

Do you have the legs for such a bike? If yours do not look like fire hydrants, Fred, the answer is probably "no".

Posted by: Arbalest at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (am+Le)

354
Shit, now it's doing Cansekus.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (Rhie+)

355 #364

Do you think we could setup a special fund to have lick drug tested and maybe get him some counselling?

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (R5yLq)

356
297
You have to read the comments attached to the story about the sticky notes. The idiots from St. Paul and Butler U are the best.

http://tinyurl.com/7muo5l9

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (9sUlj)

357 Jagger's not my fave, but I gotta say, his voice still sounds like it was 30+ years ago...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (1X/a4)

358 I once used it to jump 30 homeless people on the Santa Monica Boardwalk.
Posted by: Tommy Wobbleshitts at May 20, 2012 12:08 AM (93pSZ)

Hobo pelt pics or it didnt happen.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (DGIjM)

359 Joe Biden..lol

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:11 AM (lkdo/)

360 I have a bike made out of cast zinc. Unbelievable flexibility.

Don't smoke on that thing!
All the cool kids ride Beryllium frames.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:12 AM (PPdh6)

361 But I commute, over 500 miles a week. Not that I'm complaining...it's good to get a FT gig...

Posted by: zeera at May 20, 2012 12:04 AM (FHr35)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~Yow! And I thought my 200 miles a week was bad in CA from Fremont to Mt. View.

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 12:12 AM (Io9iG)

362 "Its part of a proud history of "progressives" staging fake hate crimes to be pinned on conservatives. "




Its almost like leftists are the incarnation of evil, and it is almost as if they project that evil onto those who are innocent of it, as if they somehow desire to be absolved of that evil by transferring it to those they hate.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 20, 2012 12:12 AM (lzvtR)

363 Imagine what it would be like if Joe Biden was the president.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:12 AM (lkdo/)

364
I have never heard of a conservative committing a hate crime.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:14 AM (lkdo/)

365 #377 CM9000:
"Its almost like leftists are the incarnation of evil, and it is almost as if they project that evil onto those who are innocent of it, as if they somehow desire to be absolved of that evil by transferring it to those they hate."

DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:14 AM (1X/a4)

366 Where the fuck is the TB3K?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 20, 2012 12:14 AM (X1xAP)

367 Does anyone
know the behind-the-scenes of a gun purchase check in Fla? I'm trying to
figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.


You are already on a list for posting this

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:15 AM (lkdo/)

368 Worst decision I ever made wasto sell my Specialized Stumpjumper. Loved that bike. Such a pretty green, too.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 20, 2012 12:16 AM (I/cLr)

369 Shit, now it's doing Cansekus. Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Justice for Atreyu!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 20, 2012 12:16 AM (ebPtk)

370
Lampshade,
Joey Bye-Bye may be an idiot, but I think he actually likes the US. I cannot say that Obama likes the US. In fact I think he is a progressive who wants to tear it down.

I'd take the idiot over the progressive.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:16 AM (9sUlj)

371 comon boys, bring it home...Posted by: dick

Ration isn't your first language, is it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 20, 2012 12:17 AM (ebPtk)

372 Yeah, we can't wait the whole damn day! We need to have TB3K!

#HonestAoSHQChants


Posted by: Theresa~who spends waaaaay too much time on Twitter at May 20, 2012 12:17 AM (Io9iG)

373 Such a pretty green, too.

Was it the lime green M2 version (1996?), or the forest green steel(1994?)?

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:17 AM (PPdh6)

374 Why is the Target application longer than the FBI application? lol

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:18 AM (lkdo/)

375
Lampshade,

Target has standards.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:19 AM (9sUlj)

376 Awful lotta trolls tonight. Back to lurk mode.

Robert, if/when you get back, thanks for the shadows fall recommendation. Great album.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 20, 2012 12:19 AM (I/cLr)

377 #386

It would be interesting. It would be a lot like having Barney the Dinosaur in the oval office.

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 20, 2012 12:19 AM (R5yLq)

378 http://tinyurl.com/7muo5l9
Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:10 AM (9sUlj)

Just read em.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:20 AM (DGIjM)

379 alright, drunk friend needs a ride home...l8r h8rs.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2012 12:20 AM (PPdh6)

380 I know a guy from college working for Jeff Merkley. Jesus

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:20 AM (lkdo/)

381 RD, the prob is that Biden, and many like him, are SOOOO dumb that they think their policies are good for America, when in fact they are the same red tyranny that the smarter America-haters are pushing.

The useful idiots are indeed useful to The Enemy. Their "innocence/naivete" just makes them more psychically secure in their destructive policies.

Gawd, I hate them all sooooo much...I grew up surrounded by them in Mass., if you haven't had that experience you cannot imagine how evil they all are.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:21 AM (1X/a4)

382 #302

Gun haters are always happy to label anything an assault weapon but very vague as to what isn't a assault weapon. A Nerf dart gun? A trip to the hardware store and some time to make some mods, and I'll make you a Nerf thrower that'll ruin your whole day. And I'm a low level amateur on that sort of thing.

What isn't an 'assault' object if you try to hit someone with it? All it take to turn a salad fork into an assault fork is intent.

(Remember the old Star Trek phaser toys that shot little plastic discs? The early version could be modded to fire pennies. Really stung.)

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:21 AM (kcfmt)

383 381
#377 CM9000:

"Its almost like leftists are the incarnation of evil, and it is
almost as if they project that evil onto those who are innocent of it,
as if they somehow desire to be absolved of that evil by transferring it
to those they hate."



DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:14 AM (1X/a4)

=====
I think of it as an extension of grandma's wisdom of it takes one to know one. They only see what they are.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 12:21 AM (ufJKx)

384 Another guy from college is working for Jefferson Smith

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:22 AM (lkdo/)

385 Night all!

Dont sell your hair to a wig shop!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 20, 2012 12:23 AM (DGIjM)

386
Lampshade,

Target has standards.
Haha...wonder that the Secret Service application is like?

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:25 AM (lkdo/)

387 Does anyone know the behind-the-scenes of a gun purchase check in Fla? I'm trying to figure out if my name is gonna end up on some permanent list somewhere.
Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 19, 2012 11:51 PM (eQnzo)


If you're not already on a list, why not?

The more specific answer is yes, you'll be on a list - but a list that's so large as to be literally unusable. You'll be on a list with half of America.

Specifically, the dealer keeps records for 20 years or until they go out of business. Florida is supposed to delete background check records, but do you trust the State? California passed that law and they lied and kept the records.

Do you trust the ATF under Holder? Of course not. But what are they going to do, round up half of America?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:26 AM (bxiXv)

388 Sorry about that. Had to find some quarters to put in the TB3K.

Posted by: CDR M at May 20, 2012 12:27 AM (QaYwz)

389 A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be great or even a democracy" -- Teddy Roosevelt

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:27 AM (lkdo/)

390 More peaceful lifestyle from the friendly Islamic activists of Samaria--INN reports:

"Arabs Target Yitzhar as 'Arson Season' Continues

Arabs start a fire near the community of Yitzhar, then attack firefighters and security forces.
Elad Benari

The community of Yitzhar in the Shomron was the target of Arab arsonists during the Sabbath.

On Saturday afternoon at approximately 5:00 p.m. local time, Palestinian Authority Arabs started a fire in several locations west of the community.

The local emergency squad and a team of firefighters who arrived on the scene were attacked with rocks that were thrown at them by approximately 200 Arab rioters. IDF soldiers and Border Police officers who arrived also were attacked and were prevented from dispersing the rioters for a long time.

The Arab rioters filmed the riot and posted the video to YouTube.

[youtube:126473]

As the fires continued raging, residents of Yitzhar streamed to the site to assist the fire crews. Some of them responded by throwing rocks back at the Arab rioters.

Only about an hour after the incident started, did the soldiers respond to the riot and dispersed the Arabs, who went back to their village.

Residents of Yitzhar told Arutz Sheva that dozens of similar fires have been started by Arabs in the summers in recent years, mainly on Fridays and Saturdays. Attacks are often timed to take place on the Sabbath, when women and children are often at home while their husbands and fathers are in synagogue.

Just two weeks ago disaster was narrowly averted twice on the Sabbath, as Jews in Yitzhar prevented Arabs from destroying their community with fire. Some grazing land was set alight, but homes in the area were saved.

Residents later told Arutz Sheva that the attacks mark the beginning of the annual PA “arson season.”

Three years ago a PA terrorist managed to burn down a home in the Shalhevet neighborhood and to stab young Tuvia Shtetman, a child living in the area. Tuvia managed to fight off the terrorist, but suffered moderate wounds.

Subsequent arson attacks have caused hundreds of thousands of shekels of damage.

“It's become a regular occurrence,” the residents told Arutz Sheva on Saturday night. “We call on Lt. Col. Yoav Yarom, incoming commander of the Samaria Brigade, to act vigorously and unequivocally against terrorist arson.”

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:28 AM (1X/a4)

391 Garrett, lime green, 1998 or so. Probably put 2K miles on it before I sold it. All because I didn't wanna rent a u-haul to move it. Stupid.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 20, 2012 12:29 AM (I/cLr)

392 A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be great or even a democracy" -- Teddy Roosevelt Posted by: Lampshade

Is this a coming out thing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 20, 2012 12:29 AM (ebPtk)

393 There is actually a non-political definition of "assault weapon" - a weapon designed to attack positions, buildings or encampments. You know, flamethrowers, grenade launchers, etc.

Not much to do with the political usage, which is "icky scary-looking rifles and sometimes pistols in objectionable colors."

The original AW legislation banned The AR-15 but not the Mini-14 (semi-auto rifles, magazine-fed, 5.56mm) and the AR-10 but not the M1A (semi-auto rifles, magazine-fed, 7.62mm).

Pure politics and incrementalism on display for all to see.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:33 AM (bxiXv)

394 #398

The people who think they're rescuing everybody are much scarier to me than those who are honestly criminals looking to score. Criminals want their kind to be rare. It provides a greater selection of victims and when they're not working they like law and order as much as anyone else.

I forget if it was Henry Hill or some other ex-mobster tell-all but I recall a book with a chapter discussing how severe enforcement within the mob was when it came to certain offenses. The offenders could be allowed to be arrested for their crimes for feared they'd become witnesses of mob activities, so the only solution was to kill them. It was not anything goes just because they were crooks. If anything, their standards of behavior were quite rigid.

Criminals, once recognized, can be simply done away with and they understand that is the risk they live under. The last thing they want is to change the world to make their crimes normal and accepted.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:33 AM (kcfmt)

395 I just turned to SNL to hear Mick Jagger sing and whoever is mixing the sound is an effin idiot. You can't even hear Jagger over the band.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2012 12:34 AM (piMMO)

396 The local emergency squad and a team of firefighters who arrived on the scene were attacked with rocks that were thrown at them by approximately 200 Arab rioters. IDF soldiers and Border Police officers who arrived also were attacked and were prevented from dispersing the rioters for a long time.

The Arab rioters filmed the riot and posted the video to YouTube.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:28 AM (1X/a4)


This activity has been sponsored by President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, through illegal contributions to terror-sponsoring states.

Yeah, the world's a pretty fucked-up place.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:37 AM (bxiXv)

397 The term 'assault rifle', in this context, dates from the Germans in WWII. It identifies an intermediate cartridge semi or automatic rifle. It is not identified as a 'battle rifle' witch uses a full sized cartridge.

Oh, and longbows.

Posted by: trainer at May 20, 2012 12:39 AM (DGxyd)

398 So did anyone go see Battleship this weekend? I just got back from seeing the avengers again.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 12:42 AM (GULKT)

399 #392

The words had a different meaning then. 'Progressive' was already being corrupted but it didn't simply translate to commie then.

Properly used, a progressive was someone who could react to new developments like, say, the telephone, without using it as an excuse for why society needed to be ripped apart and rebuilt from the ground up. Leftist strongest ability is corruption. The 19th Century saw innovations bringing change at an unprecedented pace and the word progress entered wide use in a new context. So of course the leftists had to bend it to their own ends. Even though the society they proposed was anti-progress, going back to the structure of the tribe that had given way to more elaborate organizations when human groupings got too large for that arrangement.

When a group becomes too large to know nearly everyone by name, communism stops being effective. It doesn't scale up.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:42 AM (kcfmt)

400 Hard to believe that Al Franken is a senator. He was a general studies major. Perfect for political leadership..haha

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:44 AM (lkdo/)

401 #394

That is interesting. I referenced a comment later than the one I was writing?

Plus I screwed up a sentence meaning to say mobsters could NOT allow their offending peers to be arrested for their crimes.

It's only a quarter to ten. I must be getting old.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:45 AM (kcfmt)

402 Mick Jagger not drowned in the mix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxcvPFKgl2g

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 20, 2012 12:45 AM (X1xAP)

403 Nerf to see you.

Posted by: McBain at May 20, 2012 12:45 AM (FTuxU)

404
The words had a different meaning then. 'Progressive' was already being corrupted but it didn't simply translate to commie then.
Properly used, a progressive was someone who could react to new developments like, say, the telephone, without using it as an excuse for why society needed to be ripped apart and rebuilt from the ground up. Leftist strongest ability is corruption. The 19th Century saw innovations bringing change at an unprecedented pace and the word progress entered wide use in a new context. So of course the leftists had to bend it to their own ends. Even though the society they proposed was anti-progress, going back to the structure of the tribe that had given way to more elaborate organizations when human groupings got too large for that arrangement.

When a group becomes too large to know nearly everyone by name, communism stops being effective. It doesn't scale up.


Very intelligent analysis epobirs.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:46 AM (lkdo/)

405 398
So did anyone go see Battleship this weekend? I just got back from seeing the avengers again.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 12:42 AM (GULKT)

Nope, but I did record "American Warship" the SyFy channel's cheap ripoff of it. Won't watch until tomorrow, but if it is like other SyFy movies, it should be a huge crap sandwich with a nice thick slice of cheese.
I fully expect to see a Coast Guard Cutter referred to as a "battleship".

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 12:47 AM (1grxW)

406 398 So did anyone go see Battleship this weekend? I just got back from seeing the avengers again.
Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 12:42 AM (GULKT)


I want to see it, but I'm waiting for some reviews by real people. American real people. American real people who liked The Avengers.

Also, kind of Meh on weekend showings, as long as I'm able to see weekday matinees, I do. No theater is as nice as an empty theater.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:47 AM (bxiXv)

407
The local emergency squad and a team of firefighters
What ever happened to volunteer firefighters? The ones who actually had a passion to help people. (before unions)

Posted by: Lampshade at May 20, 2012 12:47 AM (lkdo/)

408 Damn, it's been so long since I've watched SNL, thought it was on at 10:00 here my time, but I can't find it and I missed Mick. Oh well, life goes on, I guess.

Posted by: Theresa~who spends waaaaay too much time on Twitter at May 20, 2012 12:48 AM (Io9iG)

409 When a group becomes too large to know nearly everyone by name, communism stops being effective. It doesn't scale up.
Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:42 AM (kcfmt)


Most people fail to notice that communism isn't "progressive" in any sense of the word, it's an atavistic throwback to tribalism, simply scaled up and hung with the trappings of industry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:49 AM (bxiXv)

410 I know the moment has passed, but here's the (gratuitous) bike pic:

http://supplysidepolitics.blogspot.com/2012/05/in-its-29th-season.html

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2012 12:50 AM (JMmQ9)

411 Most people fail to notice that communism isn't "progressive" in any sense of the word, it's an atavistic throwback to tribalism, simply scaled up and hung with the trappings of industry.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:49 AM (bxiXv


Yeah except the tribes were smarter. They know you need a chief. Some of the commies do know this too and hope to actually be among the chief, but they hope to delude everyone else into not catching on.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 12:52 AM (GULKT)

412 Mick Jagger not drowned in the mix:



*****

Very niiice. Thanks.

I have it playing in the background now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2012 12:52 AM (piMMO)

413
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 12:21 AM (1X/a4)
I agree with you, but at least Joey Bye-bye is an idiot and would slow down the rate of the rot. He would not put Van Jones and Anita Dunn into the administration.

Mitt will also arrest the ongoing rot and degradation, but I do not think he will not reverse it. I am not sure what we need to do to make that happen?

maybe if we can survive the collapse of the EU and China, AND learn from the failures? Then we can move forward and get rid of these communist/ socialist/ progressives and their policies.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:52 AM (9sUlj)

414 The opening credits to The Wild Bunch are some of the best ever done by mankind.

By the way that Uzi looks like its made out of stamped plastic or lego. Not cool. It probably shoots great but still... cheesy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 12:52 AM (r4wIV)

415 Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: We oppose recalling Scott Walker

http://tinyurl.com/c3hcjj4

Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2012 12:53 AM (3aXbg)

416 No theater is as nice as an empty theater.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:47 AM (bxiXv)


Thats why I'll wait another couple weeks to see Avengers.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 20, 2012 12:53 AM (lzvtR)

417 Won't watch until tomorrow, but if it is like other SyFy movies, it
should be a huge crap sandwich with a nice thick slice of cheese.


But remember ... 'They' cancelled Farscape for this ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 12:54 AM (NgwbY)

418 Damn, it's been so long since I've watched SNL, thought it was on at
10:00 here my time, but I can't find it and I missed Mick. Oh well, life
goes on, I guess.


***

He was singing with the Foo Fighters and the band drowned him out completely. I tried to watch one skit but it was so unfunny I couldn't take it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2012 12:55 AM (piMMO)

419 Meh, could never get into farscape. The muppets were too muppety. It just looked like Fraggle Rock meets Buck Rogers.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 12:56 AM (r4wIV)

420 Best opening credits "Machine Girl" More blood in the opening credits alone than 99% of any other entire movie.

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at May 20, 2012 12:56 AM (y5+aw)

421 Saw this tonight and thought it was interesting that so many people a) don't remember the supposed bullying incident, and b) considered Romney to be a very nice, upright kid. (the Post-Gazette is a liberal paper, so it's doubly interesting that they would post something so positive about Romney).

http://tinyurl.com/852lx99

"Classmate Mark Mayerstein, a Baptist minister in Albuquerque, N.M.,
saw another side of Mr. Romney. Mr. Mayerstein said he was one of a
handful of Jewish students at Cranbrook. Years later, he converted to
Christianity.
He said he and two other Jewish boys were the target
of an anti-Semitic joke by a group of boys who approached them in a
dormitory hallway.
He said Mr. Romney had come up behind them and didn't like what he heard.
"He
told the three they ought to be ashamed and that they should apologize.
When they kept walking and didn't apologize, Mitt apologized to us for
them," said Mr. Mayerstein.
"High school kids just don't have the
filters that adults have. Mitt seemed to have that one filter that none
of us possessed. It was this moral thread. He was the voice of reason
sometimes. He would say, 'Do you really want to do that?' " Mr.
Mayerstein said."


Posted by: not the mama at May 20, 2012 12:56 AM (96Kco)

422
420 Meh, could never get into farscape. The muppets were too muppety. It just looked like Fraggle Rock meets Buck Rogers.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 12:56 AM (r4wIV)


That sounds awesome.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 12:57 AM (GULKT)

423 Thats why I'll wait another couple weeks to see Avengers.
Posted by: cm9000 at May 20, 2012 12:53 AM (lzvtR)


I've seen it twice. In both cases there were about 10-12 other people in the theater. No phones, no screaming children, no yammerers.

Both early shows on weekdays. Mind you, by the time I *left* the parking lot was pretty full, but I didn't have to deal with it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:57 AM (bxiXv)

424 I just turned back and it appears that Kristin Wiig is leaving the show.


Good for her!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2012 12:59 AM (piMMO)

425 Jaysus, the muppets on Farscape were less muppety than half of Congress, whatchu all talkin' 'bout?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:59 AM (bxiXv)

426 Goodnight moon.
Goodnight dune.
Goodnight fjord.
Goodnight Horde.

/poor Adriane impression

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 20, 2012 12:59 AM (I/cLr)

427 Posted by: not the mama at May 20, 2012 12:56 AM (96Kco)

Watch for that to appear in the times in 999,999,999,999... 999,999,999,998... 999,999,999,997...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:00 AM (bxiXv)

428 Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 12:52 AM (9sUlj)


===



No answer will come from leaders. Politicians are just people who see a parade and rush to the front to claim they started it.

The only way anything changes in a positive way is if we manage to get the parade headed in the right direction. Would be wonderful if someone with the bully pulpit could do that, but I don't see that happening. It will be grass roots, or it will be nothing at all.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 01:00 AM (ufJKx)

429 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 20, 2012 01:01 AM (JMmQ9)

430 Goodnight moon.

Goodnight dune.

Goodnight fjord.

Goodnight Horde.


***

Goodnight John Boy

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 20, 2012 01:01 AM (piMMO)

431 I've seen it twice. In both cases there were about 10-12 other people in the theater. No phones, no screaming children, no yammerers. Both early shows on weekdays. Mind you, by the time I *left* the parking lot was pretty full, but I didn't have to deal with it.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 12:57 AM (bxiXv)


Benefits of being in a small market. I saw it opening night in a pretty crowded theater. With kids going as well. And had no ones phone going off no screamers or yammerers. About the only thing were the guys talking before the movie while waiting to get into sit. It takes a lot of effort for someone as dorky as me to think "Wow, nerds" but I did.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 01:01 AM (GULKT)

432
(Remember the old Star Trek phaser toys that shot little plastic discs? The early version could be modded to fire pennies. Really stung.)
Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 12:21 AM (kcfmt)



I've posted this before but........homemade BluRay phaser. Complete with Star Trek sound effects.

http://tinyurl.com/y8mr4ox

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:02 AM (Rhie+)

433 Night, DC!

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 01:02 AM (Io9iG)

434 /poor Adriane impression

Good night, DC
It works for me,
Best wishes to thee,
For the tomorrow you may see ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:02 AM (NgwbY)

435
Machine girl trailer, not as much blood as the opening credits but awesome drill bra action
http://tinyurl.com/2zwufc

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at May 20, 2012 01:03 AM (y5+aw)

436
Night all,

Remember ABO 2012.

Posted by: rd at May 20, 2012 01:04 AM (9sUlj)

437 Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at May 20, 2012 01:03 AM (y5+aw)

Ah, I see Japan has its own SyFy Channel.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:07 AM (bxiXv)

438 Can't seem to keep my eyes open, so I'm headed for bed. Got up way too early this morning. Pleasant dreams, everyone!

I love the ONT and most all of you knuckleheads, but I sure do miss Miss Tammy al' Thor and wish she'd come back soon!

Posted by: Theresa at May 20, 2012 01:07 AM (Io9iG)

439 When Michael took the Corleone Family to Vegas, its previous New York territories were divided up among Clemenza, Neri and some other hero of the Barzini/Salazzo war (whose name I forget). That was mentioned in II.

Each formed his own family. They might have paid some ongoing tribute to Michael, but their operations were independent. Michael wanted a clean break from the NY rough stuff.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at May 20, 2012 01:09 AM (a5ljo)

440
So a Communist, a black, and a muslim come into a bar...
The bartender says "So Obama what will you have?"

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at May 20, 2012 01:09 AM (y5+aw)

441
Call me when SyFy does "Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:09 AM (Rhie+)

442 Ah, I see Japan has its own SyFy Channel.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:07 AM (bxiXv)


I'm pretty sure that's all their shows. If you see stuff talking about asian films you'll notice they get special mention when their effects are up to American standards.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 01:10 AM (GULKT)

443 Aw, I love Nuinia!! Caturdays are my favorite days

My fave movie ending is Toy Story 2with all the "bloopers"; esp. Barbie's "my face hurt's from smiling". Always makes me laugh, even the little boy, bathroom-humor jokes

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at May 20, 2012 01:11 AM (KL49F)

444 Movie credits:

Repo Man (1984) - closing credits roll down instead of up ...

Fahrenheit 451 - all credits are spoken. No written word appears in the entire film ...

And a personal fav ... what if:

Saul Bass: Star Wars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z25t-PQDn5A

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:11 AM (NgwbY)

445 "Is is bad that I found myself agreeing with Rorshach a lot?"

Depends where you sit on the philosophical spectrum. Rorshach is a Randian absolutist, which Alan Moore calls "insane" and despises. Ozymandias is a Nietzsheian nihilist, which fits closer to Moore's point of view. In a way each of the characters in Watchman fits a certain worldview, but when all was said and done, Rorschach won because the plot Ozymandias used would have fallen apart in a matter of weeks, and Rorschach's diary fell into the hands of a tabloid journalist.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:12 AM (r4wIV)

446 So an Irishman walks out of a bar...


What, it could happen.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:13 AM (r4wIV)

447 Thanks all for your answers to my gun question.

In case you've forgotten, Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

We've pretty well established that when Obama sneaks out to "smoke one with the boys", we ain't talkin' cigarettes. So we know Obama sucks dicks. There are no 'pubbies in the WH these days, so the dicks he sucks must belong to Democrats. The symbol of the Democrat party is a jackass, or donkey. Therefore, we have proven beyond any doubt, that...

Obama sucks donkey dicks.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at May 20, 2012 01:13 AM (eQnzo)

448 Isn't Moore pissed off that so many people like Rorshach?

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 01:13 AM (GULKT)

449 Isn't Moore pissed off that so many people like Rorshach?

I have read that ... but do not know the man personally.

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:15 AM (NgwbY)

450 Hubby and I went to see Battleship last night and it was better than I expected.

Posted by: California Witch at May 20, 2012 01:15 AM (Xcvk0)

451 "and Rorschach's diary fell into the hands of a tabloid journalist."

Oh?

The ending is left deliberatly open, so you don't know if indeed that happened.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:16 AM (v+ExF)

452 I'm referring to the graphic novel, the movie is more ambiguous (and they changed the ending to something more lame).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:17 AM (r4wIV)

453 218 - "Spooky" was the nickname for the AC-47 (which, because fo the naming rules in use at the time, was originally called the FC-47.

AC-119s were called "Shadow" or "Stinger," depending on the variant.

The AC-130s are called "Spectre."

Almost have to take that back: AC-130H is Spectre, while the new AC-130U is called "Spooky II"

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 20, 2012 01:18 AM (RJOgX)

454 "When a group becomes too large to know nearly everyone by name, communism stops being effective. It doesn't scale up."

I doubt the Red Chinese knew all, or even most of the Tienanmen protesters by name in 1989, but it took only a few weeks for them to crush a gigantic grass-roots revolt.

Communism is VERY effective at seizing and holding power. Considering the tiny scale of its numbers compared to non-communists, it DOES scale up very well.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 01:18 AM (1X/a4)

455 Learn something new everyday, keeping up with the Moron Horde (tm)

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 20, 2012 01:19 AM (RJOgX)

456 "I'm referring to the graphic novel",

So am I. Check out the last panel...It's left up to your imagination what the kid will pull.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:20 AM (v+ExF)

457 Didn't they also call the AC-47 Puff The Magic Dragon too? The ones fitted with miniguns.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:21 AM (r4wIV)

458 " the new AC-130U is called "Spooky II"

...and George Soros is called "Spooky Dude"!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 01:21 AM (1X/a4)

459 Well, when the diary is pulled is irrelevant, he has the book there, and will get to it eventually.


"Communism is VERY effective at seizing and holding power. "


The problem is that's not really a communist government. Yes, technically they claim communism, but they never get there. Its a Socialist tyranny, pure communism only happens in very small communities (and falls apart after a while).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:22 AM (r4wIV)

460 and Rorschach's diary fell into the hands of a tabloid journalist.

I don't even know why Moore put that in there, except that he's a
fucking hack instead of the amazing super-genius he thinks he is.

He kept on trying to maintain equivalence between a guy running a
paranoid newsletter and the all-encompassing blare of the MFM throughout that whole series. Anything
the paranoid newsletter would print would be written off as lunatic
ravings anyway. So the shitty fucking story doesn't end on a delicate
"what next?", like Moore thinks he so brilliantly did, it ends on Moore's totalitarian mass-murderer alter-ego gaining
control.

Fuck Alan Moore in his stupid pretentious fucking ass.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 20, 2012 01:24 AM (X1xAP)

461 Fucking formatting.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 20, 2012 01:24 AM (X1xAP)

462 OMG, CDR M cut that quote from the Taliban battle 1 sentence too soon!! Listen to TACP Delaney's LAST quote:

“I remember thinking to myself, ‘I’m going to kill every last one of these bastards who dare raise their hand against us.’”

If only our military AND political leadership had that attitude...

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 01:25 AM (1X/a4)

463
Communism is VERY effective at seizing and holding power. Considering the tiny scale of its numbers compared to non-communists, it DOES scale up very well.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 01:18 AM (1X/a4)




Yes, because they teach their subjects from childhood that the greatest service that commies can do for the society is to rat out their fellow citizens. Hell, they made 13 yr old Pavlik Morozov into a martyr (who ratted out his father, and was subsequently killed by his family).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:25 AM (Rhie+)

464 I think 9/11 showed the world how people would react to a catastrophe like Moore portrayed. They'd all be in solidarity for about a week, then start blaming each other and the war Ozymandias supposedly staved off would start up, worse than ever - with no Dr Manhattan to stop anything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:27 AM (r4wIV)

465 "No written word appears" in the movie of Fahrenheit 451?

Well, yeah, unless you count all the books the firemen burned.
And all the books that Montag stole, hid and read.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at May 20, 2012 01:28 AM (a5ljo)

466
But remember ... 'They' cancelled Farscape for this ...


Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 12:54 AM (NgwbY)

I can't rally hate on them for movies like these since these types of movies are my "Citizen Kanes". The cheesier the better. The worse the acting, the more I applaud. If the special effects look like they were done with an Etch-A-Skectch, that movie becomes my Avatar.
Long story short, Troma movies ruined movies for me.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:29 AM (1grxW)

467 I got 1 out of 10 on the gangster quiz.

/hangs head in shame

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2012 01:29 AM (sdi6R)

468 Well, yeah, unless you count all the books the firemen burned.
And all the books that Montag stole, hid and read.


I stand corrected ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:31 AM (NgwbY)

469
464 I think 9/11 showed the world how people would react to a catastrophe like Moore portrayed. They'd all be in solidarity for about a week, then start blaming each other and the war Ozymandias supposedly staved off would start up, worse than ever - with no Dr Manhattan to stop anything.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:27 AM (r4wIV)


And we actually had an enemy to go after too. Ozymandias used a one off enemy that likely would not be easy to repeat. Oh yeah and he has likely just encouraged every nation that they need to increase their military power and make it even more destructive.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 01:33 AM (GULKT)

470 If you're into bizarro Japanese gore comedies, what looks like the ne plus ultra of the genre-

"Mutant Girl Squad"

- is being released on blu-ray this Tues.

Here's your preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e2wy4r1510


I doubt you can think of anything more goretastically goofy than a chainsaw butt...

but hey, give it a whirl.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 20, 2012 01:33 AM (G9qZk)

471 What's the point of calling a character Ozymandias if you're not intimating his "great work" falls into ruin? "Nothing else remains..."

Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 01:33 AM (AyryN)

472 MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:29 AM (1grxW)


May you be reincarnated as Ed Wood ...
: -)

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:33 AM (NgwbY)

473
I think 9/11 showed the world how people would react to a catastrophe like Moore portrayed. They'd all be in solidarity for about a week, then start blaming each other and the war Ozymandias supposedly staved off would start up, worse than ever - with no Dr Manhattan to stop anything.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:27 AM (r4wIV)





Isn't that a common delusion amongst leftists? That a catastrophic or paradigm-changing event can magically turn human nature 180 degrees? Like the Star Trek bullshit where the arrival of the Vulcans (proving the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life) shocks humanity into pacifism and nobility......when the more likely result would be "let's find the Vulcan's ray guns so we can slaughter the damned Joos/blacks/whites/hispanics/infidels"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:34 AM (Rhie+)

474 I scored 5 out of 10 on the gangster quiz, and I didn't even read the questions.

I'm not kidding, I didn't read them, I just clicked through. 5 out of 10.

You people suck at taking tests.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:36 AM (bxiXv)

475 "Long story short, Troma movies ruined movies for me."

Watching some of those can be a chore (sober that is), but I've got to admit that their previews are some the funniest things I've ever seen.

"Surf Nazi's Must Die" is just flat out hilarious.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:37 AM (v+ExF)

476 Oh, and there is one frame of closing credits.
The End.
Made at Pinewood Studios, London, England.
and a copyright notice.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at May 20, 2012 01:37 AM (a5ljo)

477
May you be reincarnated as Ed Wood ...
: -)


Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 01:33 AM (NgwbY)

God I hope not, taffeta is not one of my fabrics.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:38 AM (1grxW)

478 "Klaatu barada nikto"

Ash: "Klaatu [cough--mumble] nikto!'

Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 01:38 AM (FQlFL)

479 Watchmen (the movie) was *exactly* what happens when you apply a decent scriptwriter, actors, production team, music and effects to a *DUMBASS* story.

Then again, how you would distinguish that from Hollywood in general, I'm not sure.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:40 AM (bxiXv)

480 Isn't that a common delusion amongst leftists? That a
catastrophic or paradigm-changing event can magically turn human nature
180 degrees? Like the Star Trek bullshit where the arrival of the
Vulcans (proving the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life)
shocks humanity into pacifism and nobility......when the more likely
result would be "let's find the Vulcan's ray guns so we can slaughter
the damned Joos/blacks/whites/hispanics/infidels"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:34 AM (Rhie+)

Oh, kind of like how they blame Bush for dividing the country after 9-11 even though they were bitching that we shouldn't attack the Taliban but should reach out to them.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:41 AM (1grxW)

481 "Like the Star Trek bullshit where the arrival of the Vulcans (proving
the existence of extraterrestrial intelligent life) shocks humanity into
pacifism and nobility......"



SPOILER_______



Contrast that with the Avengers, when the team's all butthurt that the
government was secretly developing weapons with the Tesseract, and Fury
goes - well you (Thor) is the reason for that, suddenly this powerful
alien falling on us and we have to start thinking what the hell else is
out there, and how to protect ourselves. And considering they go on to
fight aliens falling down on them, literally, you can't fault his
instincts.

Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 01:42 AM (AyryN)

482
even though they were bitching that we shouldn't attack the Taliban but should reach out to them.
Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:41 AM (1grxW)





Oh, but we did reach out to them. You gotta admit, a JDAM is one hell of a handshake.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:43 AM (Rhie+)

483
Watchmen (the movie) was *exactly* what happens when you apply a decent scriptwriter, actors, production team, music and effects to a *DUMBASS* story.





But, but........Malin Akerman's boobies.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:46 AM (Rhie+)

484 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:40 AM (bxiXv)

I disagree, it was not dumbass. One problem of course, was that there was so much going on in the comics that it really couldn't translate to screen.

All in all, I think they did as well as could be expected.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:47 AM (v+ExF)

485 missed the start of the SPL (BW players adding in SC2 into the league, starting the transition)


Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2012 01:47 AM (tw6Ar)

486 Watching some of those can be a chore (sober that
is), but I've got to admit that their previews are some the funniest
things I've ever seen.



"Surf Nazi's Must Die" is just flat out hilarious.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:37 AM (v+ExF)

Some may say "The Toxic Avenger" was Troma's zenith, but the best picture in their library is "Class of Nuke'Em High". The girl friend in the bikini is worth two spanks alone.
These movies must be viewed sober to take in the scenery and cinematography.
The signs on the buildings telling the viewer exactly what the building is brings back the memories of the cruise missiles that hit the "Baby Formula Factories" in the Sudan back in the 90's.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:48 AM (1grxW)

487 Oh, kind of like how they blame Bush for dividing the country after 9-11 even though they were bitching that we shouldn't attack the Taliban but should reach out to them.
Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:41 AM (1grxW)


I liked the "moderate" libs bitching that people weren't being required to sacrifice enough because of the war (read raise taxes and submit to the controlling whims of the left), which was what was *really* wrong with it.

No matter what the situation, no matter what the condition, no matter what the crisis, Lib-Man is here to tell you to submit to his desires.

On EVERYTHING. Always. No matter what. No circumstance could possibly mean we should not raise taxes or impose more government control. None. Nothing. Never.

And you're a greedy evil right-winger if you don't immediately empty your pockets and bow and scrape when Lib-Man appears!

No, they're not crazy, not at all.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:48 AM (bxiXv)

488 Harry Dean Stanton:

"Alien" to "Repo Man" to "Avengers"

May you live forever (and appear in "Prometheus)!


Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 01:49 AM (FQlFL)

489
Oh, but we did reach out to them. You gotta admit, a JDAM is one hell of a handshake.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:43 AM (Rhie+)

I think we should have flattened the shithole with MOABs every day for 30 years.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:51 AM (1grxW)

490 The problem is that's not really a communist
government. Yes, technically they claim communism, but they never get
there. Its a Socialist tyranny, pure communism only happens in very
small communities (and falls apart after a while).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 01:22 AM (r4wIV)

====
If I may suggest -- all leftist philosophies are merely a variation of slavery.
Absolutely every one of them is based on exactly the same concept -- when we are born, we have the gift of time -- the time between our birth and our death. About the time our goldfish dies, we discover that we are mortal and that time is limited.
Many people decide that the best thing to do about limited time is to steal it from other people. They may not be able to live longer, but if they can force you to pick their cotton, they can spend their time on European grand tours instead.
Just for the heck of it, try this one -- look up the abolitionist timeline on Wiki, and compare the rise of each leftist philosophy to the decline the ability of people to be barefaced slavers. As they were forced into hiding their willingness to enslave others, they invented ways to mask their behavior. As people figure out who they really are, they change their name once again. They are now "progressives." Give it time. People will figure it out again, and they will change their name again.
But, the underlying basis will never change -- and that basis is the theft of some or all of the productive hours of other people for the benefit of the slavers. The only important subject has always been time, and unless we become immortal, time will be the only subject that ever matters with these scum. Everything else is just a smokescreen -- a new version of 3-card monty -- designed to keep us from recognizing the neo-slavers for what they really are.
Remember, money is just a proxy for your time. Prison sentences are in time. When you are born, you are naked, but you have time. When you die, it is not because you are out of money, you die because you are out of time. Almost every religion has a way to promise you more time. Time is the only subject, and the very last thing the slavers want you to think about.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 01:52 AM (ufJKx)

491
I liked the "moderate" libs bitching that people weren't being required to sacrifice enough because of the war (read raise taxes and submit to the controlling whims of the left), which was what was *really* wrong with it.






Actually, they didn't like the fact that without that sacrifice, it would be difficult to turn the general public against the war and the military. Same reason that they're constantly harping on re-starting the draft. It's strictly to manufacture anti-military feeling in the general populace. You know, re-living the Vietnam War protests that they enjoyed so much as adolescents.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2012 01:53 AM (Rhie+)

492
I liked the "moderate" libs bitching that people
weren't being required to sacrifice enough because of the war (read
raise taxes and submit to the controlling whims of the left), which was
what was *really* wrong with it.



No matter what the situation, no matter what the condition, no
matter what the crisis, Lib-Man is here to tell you to submit to his
desires.



On EVERYTHING. Always. No matter what. No circumstance could
possibly mean we should not raise taxes or impose more government
control. None. Nothing. Never.



And you're a greedy evil right-winger if you don't immediately empty your pockets and bow and scrape when Lib-Man appears!



No, they're not crazy, not at all.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 01:48 AM (bxiXv)

Remember the Lib heads exploding when Bush said we should just go about with our lives? That was what sent the BDS into DefCon5.

Posted by: MrCaniac at May 20, 2012 01:54 AM (1grxW)

493 #454

Please. That wasn't communism. That was just an ordinary totalitarian beatdown. No different than any more blatantly dictatorial regime. It may be what you get when communist regimes seize whole nations but it has little to do with the functional organization of small communities. I can call myself a small business operator but if I have 35,000 employees it is obviously not the case, even if I put the words 'Small Business' in 50 foot letters on the gates of my massive factory complex.

The fact that they needed to resort to mass murder like that shows they'd had to leave their claimed belief system far behind, if they ever actually believed any of it in private. A tribe is a collection of extended families where you have a sense of intertwined obligation to everybody else in the group. Property rights start to be come a critical issue when complete strangers need to be able to do business in a mutually beneficial fashion. There needs to be immediate satisfaction with the transaction. You can no longer rely on a sense of community that says everything will even out in the long term even if it seems you're working much harder than the other guy in the short term.


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 01:55 AM (kcfmt)

494 #470

Attack Girl Swim Team Vs. The Undead.

Lead has fabulous breasts and shows them to the audience quite a lot.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 01:57 AM (kcfmt)

495 487
I liked the "moderate" libs bitching that people weren't being required to sacrifice enough because of the war (read raise taxes and submit to the controlling whims of the left), which was what was *really* wrong with it.

No matter what the situation, no matter what the condition, no matter what the crisis, Lib-Man is here to tell you to submit to his desires.

On EVERYTHING. Always. No matter what. No circumstance could possibly mean we should not raise taxes or impose more government control. None. Nothing. Never.


They wanted government rationing. Of everything. Only then could we have all come together as members of the Great Collective, sacrificing our individuality for the common good.

If Bush had done that they would have supported him.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2012 02:02 AM (sdi6R)

496 #450

That is great news. Stuck and I are planning on going to see it this week.

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 20, 2012 02:02 AM (R5yLq)

497 I disagree, it was not dumbass.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 01:47 AM (v+ExF)


It is certainly fine for people to have a wide variety of opinions on a given subject.

I just thought, from before the movie, that the story was weak and based on relatively incredible assumptions. Now, it kind of depends on what you mean by "story" here, as the progression of Rorschach's investigation and the basic telling was competent, but the villain is immensely dumb, and pretty much everyone but Rorshach is dumb and self-absorbed, and the author's contempt for the only intelligent character present practically drips from the page.

I guess it was more a case of me finding it offensive than "dumbass." I find that about a great deal of the comic world these days, or since the late 90s at least.

Basically the leftist "deconstructionist" movement invaded comics, smeared shit all over everything, and then laughed as the smell soured the whole field. That's the angry version.

Watchmen didn't actually start it, but it was a turning point toward a revisionist comic industry that tried to "deconstruct" the history of superheroes and turn it into a grimdark, gritty, sunken and hollow version if itself.

Just like everything else, the academics got hold of a useful principle like "hey, nobody's perfect" or "sometimes good people act from base motives" and turn it into some kind of extreme, debasing philosophy that tries to push everything else out.

And then I could get into the stultified, thoughtless 60s-radical revisionist version of the cold war included, but that would be redundant at this point.

It was almost like the thing was planned by the marketers to drag the aging hippies and disaffected leftists into comics (like they needed to be?).

I tend to be sensitive to messages like that because I don't watch much TV, where it is omnipresent and numbing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:04 AM (bxiXv)

498 Bit late in the game, I know, but what about the opening of Monty Python and the Holy Grail for some of the best opening film credits ever? (Not least for the effect they had on the Zucker Brothers perennial closing credit gags.)

And even though it's not a film, you gotta admit MST3K had one of the best opening credit sequences ever, one that they actually allowed to evolve over time (and over the transition from Comedy Central to SyFy).

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 02:08 AM (pYA5L)

499 If Bush had done that they would have supported him.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2012 02:02 AM (sdi6R)


Um wrong, because Bush was an idiot and stupid and everything he did was really lame and dumb, duh.

Posted by: libtard at May 20, 2012 02:09 AM (lzvtR)

500 Please. That wasn't communism. That was just an ordinary totalitarian beatdown.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 01:55 AM (kcfmt)



===

Splitting hairs. communist = totalitarian = slaver. You either own your own time, or you don't.



I am looking for any language that ever existed anywhere on planet earth that did not have a word for 'slave.' My guess is I never will.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 02:10 AM (ufJKx)

501 What is interesting is that Alan Moore has been writing really upbeat, golden age style comics lately, moving completely away from the grim and gritty stuff he did in the early 90s.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 02:10 AM (r4wIV)

502 501 What is interesting is that Alan Moore has been writing really upbeat, golden age style comics lately, moving completely away from the grim and gritty stuff he did in the early 90s.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 20, 2012 02:10 AM (r4wIV)


Well, I guess that goes to show he can do math.

I mean, "Valley of Elah" vs. "Iron Man," who made money?

That's an extreme comparison, of course.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:14 AM (bxiXv)

503 5.9 magnitude earthquake in Bologna, Italy. 5 people confirmed dead

Posted by: Ma Bell at May 20, 2012 02:14 AM (uVuwp)

504 #497

I'm old fashioned. I like my heroes to be heroes. I don't mind if they have a few flaws, but when all they have is flaws they cease being heroic.

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 20, 2012 02:15 AM (R5yLq)

505 #469

Moore is like a lot of people of his generation who couldn't conceive of the soviet Union collapsing on its own. A LOT of people made that assumption, largely because some rather stupid people in the CIA and other places entrusted with assessing the Soviet's strengths and weaknesses got it horribly wrong.

Moore is remarkable in that he is a keen observer of human behavior but has drawn the wrong conclusions about nearly all of it. (And why didn't Dr. Mahattan simply eliminate the Soviet nuclear arsenal and end the problem right there?) And consider that 'V for Vendetta' was Moore's reaction to Thatcher. He really thought she would institute a fascist government if given free rein to act. In his introduction to the DC version he talks about how terrible it is that there are all of these cameras watching people and he didn't like it in the UK anymore. All while ignoring that it was Labour party leaders who pushed for the CCTV uber alles approach to governance.

Jerry Pournelle has told me about arguments his group at Boeing in the 60s had with the CIA types over how much the Soviets had to be spending on various wars and 'community organizing' efforts. The CIA insisted it was no more than 15% of GDP and could be sustained forever, while others felt the number had to be far higher and was going to bleed them dry eventually. Policy was made on the CIA claims and the Cold War went on a lot longer than it needed to.

Even so, Jerry wrote his CoDominium stories based on 21st Century in which control of the planet was divided between the US and Soviet blocs. WWIII eventually renders the planet uninhabitable but not after an FTL drive is invented and many planets colonized. The setting of 'The Mote in God's Eye' is set nearly a thousand years later, in the third human interstellar civilization to arise.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:16 AM (kcfmt)

506 I am looking for any language that ever existed
anywhere on planet earth that did not have a word for 'slave.' My guess
is I never will.


Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 02:10 AM (ufJKx)


In Hebrew, the word that people translate as "slave" is "Eh-ved" which derives from "Ah-vad" the root of "work, La-ah-vode for the infinitive. A slave in Hebrew is a worker of sorts. A regular worker is an "Oh-ved".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 02:20 AM (X3lox)

507 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:04 AM (bxiXv)

When "The Watchmen" came out it was totally different then anything before it. Tried to give you an idea of what being a 'Superhero' was, from the perspective of said 'Hero's'.

Nothing like that had ever been done before. And the plot was actually quite complex. If by "deconstruction", you mean bringing a reality to comics, fine. But I think 'Marvels' did a far better job.

Funny thing is, I had pretty much stopped reading comics until someone introduced me to "The Watchmen". And at that point it was only halfway through. And I thought "Damn! This is good!"

Like it or not, it was groundbreaking.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 02:24 AM (v+ExF)

508 Good evening again.

It's a busy night. I'm not really here.






Isn't Moore pissed off that so many people like Rorshach?

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 01:13 AM (GULKT)



I don't know about pissed off but I think he was kind of baffled by the reaction Rorschach got. Rorshach was written as a parody of a Randian objectivist/conservative law and order type. Moore really enjoys taking swipes at Rand and her followers whenever he can. He also totally has a serious mad on against Steve Ditko for the fact that Ditko is an Ayn Rand devotee. So he writes a character that takes the piss out of that whole movement and winds up creating one of the best, most complex and easily the most popular character of the entire story.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 02:27 AM (4ixH5)

509 490--jc at May 20, 2012 01:52 AM (ufJKx)

Beautiful!

Maaahhhh friend, it's like we've had a Vulcan mind-meld!!

Do you mind if I steal it for my blog?

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 02:27 AM (1X/a4)

510 I just want Marvel to bring back Damage Control

Posted by: The Dude at May 20, 2012 02:28 AM (tw6Ar)

511 #509

I never read the comic. I did think the movie was stupid. The only character I didn't find to be completely horrible was Rorschach. It's not a good thing when the only somewhat likable character is a borderline sociopath.

Posted by: Hummingbird at May 20, 2012 02:30 AM (R5yLq)

512 I would like some one with Hollywood smarts to adapt The Snow Queen and The Summer Queen to the big screen ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 02:30 AM (NgwbY)

513 The word "slave" is apparently based on "Slav", because a lot of Slavs got captured and sold into slavery. If ever an African-American throws that old how my people enslaved his people bit at me, I'd counter -- then how come the very word references my people as the victims, and not yours?

Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 02:31 AM (AyryN)

514 "A slave in Hebrew is a worker of sorts."


A slave in America never works, they just vote for their continued bondage.

Posted by: libtard at May 20, 2012 02:32 AM (lzvtR)

515 #407

To be fair, if you divide it up, Watchmen has some brilliant bits in there. It's Moore: an amazing writer but incredibly wrong about some really important stuff.

There was an issue of 'Amazing Heroes' IIRC that was almost entirely given over to a lengthy interview with Moore and Dave Gibbons. The whole thing (aside from the 'see what you can do with these Charlton characters we just bought' aspect) was a simple question: What would it be like if some people in the late 1930s actually put on costumes and went out to beat up criminals?

If you've been reading comics all of your life, or listening to radio shows, or watching TV this seems like an odd question. It's so common of a theme. But why doesn't it happen in real life? Why isn't there a real-life Punisher preying on the likes of the Crips and Bloods? Call it deconstructionist but it is interesting that this is such a normal thing in fiction but has no relation to real life. It isn't like UFO stories that require aliens to actually show up to find a real-world parallel. Somebody with a big inheritance and a lot of free time could become Batman. They might get killed very quickly but it is a doable thing.

So it was an interesting setting that had a bunch of middle-age men wondering, 'What the hell were we thinking?' if they were sane. And having much stranger thoughts if they were otherwise.

There is a lot of fun stuff like that in Watchmen. And the production values are fascinating. The number of subtleties and design work that went into settings like that world's version of Time Square is a geek's dream. The entire location is a completely functional 3D setting. Today they just do it in off the shelf software but back then it was all a paper diorama so they could figure out where everybody was for the big bang.

Moore manages to get up to issue 17 of Miracle/Marvel Man before letting his political obsessions step in. And even then he has to resort to magic to have good reason to be mean to Thatcher and Reagan. I suspect he still blames them for the end of the Soviet Union rather than the Soviets themselves.

Some artists I can enjoy in spite of themselves. Roger Waters is a hard core leftist but still made some great music. Just don't bother with 'The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking' to avoid him at his stupidest.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:35 AM (kcfmt)

516 One thing to remember about Alan Moore is his immersion in esoterica and various iterations of Thelema - it could be argued that he's used that to replace the garden-variety Marxist worldview he grew up with, a worldview that he's admitted was inadequate in comprehending and anticipating the realities of the new Millennium. The Crowley-infused vision of From Hell isn't the naive U.K.-flavored dialectic of Watchmen, in other words - Moore's now on a new, semi-insane course. (Think Grant Morrison, but with fewer pharmaceuticals.)

Plus, there's his ongoing quest to eliminate the concept of "the hero," believing that it encourages a soft form of fascism, with people yielding their individual agency and destiny to some all-powerful Other - and abdicating their own sense of responsibility as well. That, and he's a contrarian with some really distressingsexual kinks.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 02:37 AM (pYA5L)

517 Moore is remarkable in that he is a keen observer of human behavior but has drawn the wrong conclusions about nearly all of it.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:16 AM (kcfmt)


How many other leftist thinkers does that comment apply to? Isn't that even a paraphrase of a famous quote by Buckley or somebody?

When "The Watchmen" came out it was totally different then anything before it. Tried to give you an idea of what being a 'Superhero' was, from the perspective of said 'Hero's'.

Except that wasn't the original part of it. I mean, that wasn't uncommon at all. It just gave it from the perspective of despised, disgraced, debased heroes. That was the actual difference.

Nothing like that had ever been done before. And the plot was actually quite complex. If by "deconstruction", you mean bringing a reality to comics, fine. But I think 'Marvels' did a far better job.

If you don't know what "deconstruction" means in this context, I just wasted several paragraphs. I'm not saying you're stupid or anything, just that we're not 100% talking the same language, so we're kind of talking past each other.

"Deconstruction" is another trendy (but older trendy) academic movement based on Marxist academic attempts to subvert texts or even genres to support Marxism. The term was coined by Derrida. It's been used regularly to describe Watchmen.

Interestingly so has "revisionist." The funny thing about revisionism is that it describes itself as attempting to repair historical or literary inaccuracies, but all it ever does is "deconstruct" them to try to get them to support Marxism.

I'm not saying that Moore is some cranky Soviet-Spy Professor trying to sneak The Enemy down your throats, I'm saying it's pretty apparent that his thinking could be described as informed by and derived from those ideas, and so promotes them as the only natural way to do things.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:38 AM (bxiXv)

518 Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 01:52 AM (ufJKx)



www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PzOesXCgSo

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 02:38 AM (4ixH5)

519


Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 02:31 AM (AyryN)


That's interesting. I started wondering about the English word right after I posted my comment.

A slave in America never works, they just vote for their continued bondage.


Posted by: libtard at May 20, 2012 02:32 AM (lzvtR)


Being released after 7 years would send them into a tizzy


Leftist ideologies are based around one basic concept: a static, unchanging world. This is why they think that everything can be easily and efficiently centralized (which it can, if nothing changes and no advancements are ever forthcoming or even necessary). This inevitably leads to a need for the state to become a total tyrant as the growing and advancing society requires solutions and infrastructure that the static committees and rules were never set up to handle (since they didn't exist at the formation of the committees and rules). So, you have to end up with the static rules of the leftist structure in full blown war with the dynamic society that is changing around it. The leftist structure works as hard as possible to keep everything static, in a form that it was built to handle. This is why even the leftists who don't intend to be tyrants must end up as tyrants. Growth and dynamics make minced meat of static rules and committees set up to govern an unchanging world.

Our Constitution is a set of meta-rules constructed only to determine the relationship of the government and the changing society it governs, not the actions and structure of the underlying society. But, leftists want to establish rules for all behavior, all work, and all industry - rules that crumble as the society grows out of them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 02:39 AM (X3lox)

520 509
490--jc at May 20, 2012 01:52 AM (ufJKx)



Beautiful!



Maaahhhh friend, it's like we've had a Vulcan mind-meld!!



Do you mind if I steal it for my blog?



Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 02:27 AM (1X/a4)

===
It is part of a larger work. I would hope you would credit me. If we are really of a like mind, perhaps we could trade some more notes.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 02:40 AM (ufJKx)

521 If you have never seen an AC-130 work out.......

*fuck*

It's mindboggling........

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 20, 2012 02:41 AM (tf3sP)

522 then how come the very word references my people as the victims, and not yours?


Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 02:31 AM (AyryN)


Because Slavery and Racism. And nice hash, racist."AyryN" really? Aryan much? Racisty racist.

Posted by: libtard at May 20, 2012 02:43 AM (lzvtR)

523 yeah china scary

but no is $500,000,000,000

but us so us scary

maybe tehy spend like us and we all be less scary?

Or no?

lot spending us now good on weapon?

Posted by: twoslaps at May 20, 2012 02:44 AM (xFflO)

524 514
"A slave in Hebrew is a worker of sorts."


A slave in America never works, they just vote for their continued bondage.


Posted by: libtard at May 20, 2012 02:32 AM (lzvtR)

===
this is a fine way to illustrate why the neo-slavers always change the subject from time to money. Simple thing: welfare recipients own 100% of their time, and some of yours. To the slavery party, that is "fair."
To me, the only thing that could be fair would be for each person to have the full right, title and interest to the hours, minutes, and seconds of their own life. Note the conflict with the word "entitlement" built into this concept.


Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 02:44 AM (ufJKx)

525 But why doesn't it happen in real life? Why isn't there a real-life Punisher preying on the likes of the Crips and Bloods?

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:35 AM (kcfmt)


It happens. It just doesn't usually involve a costume (attention-getting and identifying for someone who needs to avoid attention), and generally they don't keep it up for long.

Also that killing strangers on one's own initiative is pretty pathological, even if you "justify" it, so almost no sane people would do it, and if they do, they would be classified as a serial killer who preyed on the underworld rather than a superhero.

Simply pummelling bad guys into submission is not practicable in the real world.

Plus, there's his ongoing quest to eliminate the concept of "the hero," believing that it encourages a soft form of fascism, with people yielding their individual agency and destiny to some all-powerful Other - and abdicating their own sense of responsibility as well.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 02:37 AM (pYA5L)


Which kind of ignores that the average comic fan identifies more with the hero than themselves as a fan, if that makes sense.

I mean, they're not fantasizing about being the fictional butler or peon servant of a superhero. It's the opposite of what they actually do.

Again, the left getting things backwards.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:44 AM (bxiXv)

526 492 I liked the "moderate" libs bitching that people weren't being required to sacrifice enough because of the war (read raise taxes and submit to the controlling whims of the left), which was what was *really* wrong with it.
Yep.

....and the fact that we took more casualties on D-Day than in the last decade.

Sorry about yer bad luck, libs.....suck it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at May 20, 2012 02:46 AM (tf3sP)

527 "Salve," veal's slave!

Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 02:46 AM (FQlFL)

528 #500

Not at all. There is a difference between giving something a label and having it be true without forcing the language to change. But that is the kind of corruption leftists live for.

In a sane world communist would just be a quaint term used to describe small human communities that keep most property in common, much in the same manner as a family. But humans are not insects and a million humans cannot function like a million ants. The majority of the ants are essentially gay aunts and uncles, all working for the continued production of their reproductive sibling's DNA that they share. (Some biologists believe a version of that may give gays a role in human evolution. The idea is that investing in a sibling's reproduction may be more effective than every child in a family seeking to produce their own. That is now being suppressed by those who feel it supplies an argument against gay marriage an atheist can get behind.)

Accepting the communist label for something like the Soviet Union or Red China is allowing the leftists to mold the language.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:46 AM (kcfmt)

529 I think it was at American Thinker I read that "Deconstructionism is historical relativism on crack."

Which is a bit off because it's a literary theory, but these things never stay in their own place, do they?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 02:47 AM (bxiXv)

530 "Deconstruction" is another trendy (but older trendy) academic movement based on Marxist academic attempts to subvert texts or even genres to support Marxism. The term was coined by Derrida. It's been used regularly to describe Watchmen.
Then maybe we are talking past each other.

It's a comic. Superheros don't exist. But if they did, what would they be like?

That is all there is to it. You are putting way too much time arguing about characters that don't exist.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 02:50 AM (v+ExF)

531 "It is part of a larger work. I would hope you would credit me. If we are really of a like mind, perhaps we could trade some more notes."

But of course!

It reminded me of my very first real blog post, back in 2006, about the Old World. The shifting labels for essentially unchanged concepts has always been an interest for me.

Post a comment at my blog, we can correspond easier.

Or just point me in the direction of your larger work?

I'll check back tmw, I gotta crash. Good night, amigos!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 02:50 AM (1X/a4)

532 "Which kind of ignores that the average comic fan identifies more with the hero than themselves as a fan, if that makes sense."

I thought the idea behind giving young wards and helpers to the superheros back in the day was to be the "indentifier" figure with the readers. That is of course until that kind of relationship was redefined as pedophiliac by those who see any relationship between two human beings MUST be sexual, the effers.

Posted by: sistrum at May 20, 2012 02:54 AM (AyryN)

533 Just got home at the husband put coast to coast on the radio. Now I want to punch someone in the face. There is a lawyer on talking about how bad the FDA is (no argument there) but he is not telling the whole truth how clinical trials work for drugs. There is fucking protocal you d-bag for these trials.

Posted by: mpfs at May 20, 2012 02:55 AM (Fy6L7)

534 #525

Can you point to a documented example that wasn't just some eccentric dressing up and walking around his neighborhood in imitation of comics?

It appears that rival criminals account for the great majority of homicides of gang members. Vigilantism is either very rare or very ineffective.


On the second part: I hated Robin as a kid. I never understood the mentality that thought a kid sidekick was needed to give the intended demographic somebody to identify with. Who in the hell wanted to be Robin instead of Batman. I mean, who that didn't grow up to move to West Hollywood and become a notorious bottom?

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:56 AM (kcfmt)

535 528 "But that is the kind of corruption leftists live for."



Theres a kind of corruption leftists live for? And here I always thought leftists just lived for corruption in a general sense.

Posted by: cm9000 at May 20, 2012 02:57 AM (lzvtR)

536 Merovign - I think you're on the money about Moore's fatal flaw in his assault on the hero concept, but I'd take it further: rather than fighting "soft" fascism, Moore's actually attempting to impose it by mandating a politically and socially-"correct" vision as the new norm. It's not all that different from the same-old/same-old Marxist line that the "false consciousness" of the people is what's keeping them from embracing the Revolution, so they've got to be taught, coerced if necessary, to think the proper thoughts. For their own good, of course.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 02:59 AM (pYA5L)

537 #516

Moore went completely nuts on 'Promethea.' It was an amazing read for about the first half and then descended into some incredibly dumb old navel gazing 'if you can believe it hard enough you can make it real' nonsense. Where stories become fact if enough simply believe it and reality has no choice but to follow. Kind of like the General Semantics whackiness that inspired AE Van Vogt to write the NULL-A books. (I might be doing some e-books for Van Vogt's family.) Our hero, Gilbert Gosseyn, wants to be on the other side of a barrier. He finds he can teleport there if he just convinces himself he is already there.

The ultimate lie: convincing your own brain to disregard the evidence of your senses.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:01 AM (kcfmt)

538 Accepting the communist label for something like the Soviet Union or Red China is allowing the leftists to mold the language.


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:46 AM (kcfmt)

===I get it. You know all the taxonomy of the neo-slavers and can elaborate on all the fine details.
But, I think you may be missing my point. Detailed intellectual pursuits of the various phylum, class, order,
family, genus, specie of each type of leftist serves their purposes as
well.

Intellectuals on the right love to demonstrate their mental prowess when discussing the left, but it is
often counter-productive because it allows the slavers to hide in plain sight. People who could have been persuaded by a simple explanation are often not interested in the heavy lifting.
In the end, each one of these species does what they do in order to steal our time. We needs 300 million people in our country to recognize this essence, and I am completely willing to defray discussing the the finer points for a while to achieve that goal.


Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:04 AM (ufJKx)

539 On the second part: I hated Robin as a kid. I never understood the mentality that thought a kid sidekick was needed to give the intended demographic somebody to identify with. Who in the hell wanted to be Robin instead of Batman. I mean, who that didn't grow up to move to West Hollywood and become a notorious bottom?
Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 02:56 AM (kcfmt)


I think for the most part you are right. But I bet there are plenty of kids out there who would have loved to have been taken under Batman's wing and trained to become a hero in their own right. Which Robin does eventually do.

So I don't think the sidekick is necessary but I do think that can fulfill an identifying role for the readers

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2012 03:04 AM (GULKT)

540 #535

No, that is merely criminality. Taking bribes, for example, has no political basis. Anyone can be subject to temptation, regardless of what they think is right and wrong for other people.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:04 AM (kcfmt)

541 The ultimate lie: convincing your own brain to disregard the evidence of your senses.



Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:01 AM (kcfmt)





That's the way to Nirvana, as per the Buddhists.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:05 AM (X3lox)

542 I think for the most part you are right. But I bet there are plenty of kids out there who would have loved to have been taken under Batman's wing and trained to become a homo...

Posted by: Ace (or Gary) at May 20, 2012 03:06 AM (PPdh6)

543 It's a comic. Superheros don't exist. But if they did, what would they be like?

So unoriginal it doesn't even begin to be funny.

That is all there is to it. You are putting way too much time arguing about characters that don't exist.
Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 02:50 AM (v+ExF)


Wow, so glad to hear that ideas never have any effect on people's behavior. Tomorrow will be so much better.

Have you ever heard / read Moore talk about his work? Or studied literature at all (Moore has tried very hard to make comics "literature" in the academic sense)?

Ideas matter. Ignoring them doesn't make them *not* matter.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:06 AM (bxiXv)

544 I am completely willing to defray discussing the the finer points for a while to achieve that goal.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:04 AM (ufJKx)


I don't think there's a single answer. People will largely do what they do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:09 AM (bxiXv)

545 "In the end, each one of these species does what they do in order to steal our time"


Why shouldn't I steal your time chump? I have men in uniforms with guns backing my entitlement to do so. Suck it serf.

Posted by: Julia at May 20, 2012 03:12 AM (lzvtR)

546 #538

Details matter. You cannot expect everybody to pay attention but you've got to give everybody a chance to learn why the left is full of crap and how they've tried to con people.

There are those who can go into much finer detail. I've long since lost track of all the varieties of socialist the scholars recognize. It gets into geek minutiae after a while. But I do feel it's important to make people understand the difference between the words they use and the reality they create. One of the main reasons I knew what Obama was the first time I heard him speak is that he invoked so many cliche phrases and concepts of the left. It was shocking to me that so many didn't pick up on this and that even many on the right consider him a brilliant orator.

I keep wondering if I'm hearing the same guy everybody else is.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:12 AM (kcfmt)

547 #541

Kurt Cobain achieved Nirvana in more ways than one.

If the goal is to cease to exist as an individual, why work so hard at it? Just jump off a cliff and you're there.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:14 AM (kcfmt)

548 Posted by: Julia at May 20, 2012 03:12 AM (lzvtR)

You can have my time, but you will blow me first.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 03:16 AM (4ixH5)

549 Post a comment at my blog, we can correspond easier.




Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 20, 2012 02:50 AM (1X/a4)


===

OK, I gave it a try. goodnight.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:17 AM (ufJKx)

550 "So unoriginal it doesn't even begin to be funny."
So enlighten me. They are comics. You are the one putting way too much on this.

"Ideas matter. Ignoring them doesn't make them *not* matter."

I agree. But I've never seen Moore talk. And how this tallys with "The Watchmen" is beyond me.

Ain't that big of a deal...

Like I said, it's just a comic.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:18 AM (v+ExF)

551 Epobirs - Promethea is a good watershed moment for chronicling Moore's descent into the maelstrom. What gets me is how much he and so many others have embraced this goofiness, to the point of looking to folks like Crowley and Eliphas Levi and the like as sages. Just a quick google of "synchromysticism" or "Babylon Working" shows a depressing number of people signing on whole-heartedly to wooly-headed abdication of rationality.

On a brighter note, that you might be working with the Van Vogt estate is incredibly neat! If the Null-A mythos can be revived, maybe someone will get around to resurrecting the Legion of Space!

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 03:19 AM (pYA5L)

552 #533

It's Coast to Coast. You were expecting something based on facts?

This is the show that lead to the writing of 'The Men Who Stare At Goats.'

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:19 AM (kcfmt)

553 544
I am completely willing to defray discussing the the finer points for a while to achieve that goal.



Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:04 AM (ufJKx)



I don't think there's a single answer. People will largely do what they do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:09 AM (bxiXv)

===
When you want to teach someone complex math, it is usually best to start with simple truths. Many simple truths actually do have a single answer. Does F=MA? Well, high level physicists can argue the point. However, almost every useful thing in your life did not require a higher level of understanding to produce it, F=MA was close enough.

It is my opinion that a fundamental part of starting a new parade where fewer people are fooled will require an approach that makes it harder to baffle them with bullshit. K.I.S.S. is inexact, but not unworthy.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:26 AM (ufJKx)

554 George Clooney = dildo chair

Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 03:26 AM (FQlFL)

555
Delaney's comment,
“I remember thinking to myself, ‘I’m going to kill every last one of these bastards who dare raise their hand against us.’”
just says it all. That is the real American spirit that we need every day.

Posted by: And Irresolute at May 20, 2012 03:26 AM (RC3M9)

556 It was shocking to me that so many didn't pick up on this and that even many on the right consider him a brilliant orator.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:12 AM (kcfmt)


As we have seen many times, people largely let things go in one ear and out the other without chewing much, to horribly mangle the metaphor.

Also, to someone who lived entirely on the Savannah, a tree is a tree. They would not likely perceive all the many variants in a temperate forest on first glance.

A lot of people have very little context with which to identify the details you're talking about. It's like showing MST3K to someone from 1822 - almost all of the humor is based on cultural cues that don't exist for them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:27 AM (bxiXv)

557 Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:19 AM (kcfmt)

So whatever happened to Art Bell? Anyone know?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:27 AM (v+ExF)

558 So enlighten me. They are comics. You are the one putting way too much on this.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:18 AM (v+ExF)


It must be doing something for you, or you would find another hobby.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:28 AM (bxiXv)

559 #551

I think he had a breakdown when he finally accepted the whole communism thing was a bust and always was. It meant having to seriously reassess a lot of choices he'd made and stuff he wrote that will follow him around forever. Most people do this at a much earlier age and can attribute it to youth. We're all born leftists but grow out of it. It defines adulthood of the mind for many to realize a world run by instinct is very unpleasant and we need to think a lot more about how to make things work towards a pleasant existence.

The trigger may have been when he started making serious money and found himself in the same situation that lead George Harrison to write 'Taxman.' Except Moore didn't face nearly as severe of a hit thanks to his nemesis, Margaret Thatcher. That must have cost him some neurons right there.

So he chose to embrace something completely out of left field that couldn't be readily disproven because it cannot really be discussed in rational terms. Bullshit of that quality can never let you down. Of course, it helps to be rich.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:28 AM (kcfmt)

560 546
I keep wondering if I'm hearing the same guy everybody else is.


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:12 AM (kcfmt)

===
A fine statement explaining my desire to go straight to the heart of the matter.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:31 AM (ufJKx)

561 One of the main reasons I knew what Obama was the first time I heard him
speak is that he invoked so many cliche phrases and concepts of the
left.


Not just that but he had all the mannerisms and patterns that anyone who had ever spent any time with any sort of leftist would pick up. They tend to be a pretty dull bunch, but they've memorized tracts as responses to certain, specific areas. You can tell them in a second. Janneane Garafalo is a perfect example. She hasn't got anything to say about anything interesting, but if you mention latin america she has a whole set of twisted facts and ideas that spill right out - the same bullshit you hear from any of the people she associates with. They have scripts that they look for words to use to go into and then they're off to the races. The Dog-Eater was just like this.

In the same way, anyone who ever knew people who spent the first four or five years growing up in America and then moved away knows the experience of speaking with someone who has no accent and sounds like a regular American, but as they go on you start to hear very odd mistakes. They misuse idomatic expressions, screw up prepositions. Small things that only a native speaker can recognize and even for us it takes a little while until you start to understand that while they sound like they speak English as a native tongue, they really don't. I had many friends in Israel who grew up in America and were just like this. When I heard Barky speak and then started hearing the odd mistakes that he would make it immediately struck me that he was the same. That was when I knew that he was a product of Indonesia and not America.

In any event, for those who didn't catch these things, the Dog-Eater made it easy by diving into the old marxist well-known lingo ("spread the wealth" and such) which no American had any excuse to miss or misunderstand.

It was shocking to me that so many didn't pick up on this and that
even many on the right consider him a brilliant orator.


He has the oratory skills of a 10th grader, at best. He is wooden in his reading and, as we all now know, unable to even pronounce simple words correctly. People confuse the tone of his voice with some notion of oratory skills. He's a shitty speaker.

The GOP and many on the right were just cowards - too scared to say anything bad about the retarded black kid who had no business even being taken seriously by anyone. They still are. Doesn't matter, now, though. Irreparable damage has been done to America and it's clear that there isn't the guts or brains to understand that just voting the Dog-Eating Retard out of office - and even just repealing his crap legislation - does not fix what he and his junta of idiots on the Hill broke (with some complacent help from the GOPers on the Hill).

People want to get out of this total fuck-up on the cheap, but it just cannot be done. We can have a little respite on the cheap, but the damage remains. Shit, we now have empathy officially considered to be a main qualifying characteristic for a judge. WTF? The entire foundation of system of jurisprudence (and over three millenia of such history in the Western tradition) was just swept aside in one swoop. Societies crumble from such cracks. That has to be fixed, but such a fix is not easy and is expensive and fraught with danger, itself. But without making the actual repair ... well, you know.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:31 AM (X3lox)

562 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:28 AM (bxiXv)

Laughs...

Whatever...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:32 AM (v+ExF)

563 Mildly interesting Coast-To-Coast tidbit - the husband of one of my U.S. History survey students was a member of the local p.d., and swore up and down that back in the '90s, most of the guys on night duty had Art Bell on during their time on patrol. Said it was pretty common with most of the other folks in blue he'd met as well.

Now whether that's still the case with George Noory and that other new guy, I have no idea......

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 03:33 AM (pYA5L)

564 Kurt Cobain achieved Nirvana in more ways than one.

If the goal is to cease to exist as an individual, why work so hard at it? Just jump off a cliff and you're there.


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:14 AM (kcfmt)


I'm just stating the Buddhists' idea. They would say that you can't just commit suicide because then you are reincarnated as a woman ... or worse.

Not my idea. Theirs. As I'm sure you're aware.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:34 AM (X3lox)

565 #556

I was noticing that when the show was still on, and that it you don't have to go very far time-wise. I had a much younger friend who had just graduated UCLA when he died in a car crash in 2000 and was born shortly after Star Wars had its first theatrical run.

If we were hanging out on a Saturday we'd watch the show mainly because of me. a lot for the gags went right by him not just because he didn't get the context touching on something from well before his birth but also situations he couldn't yet relate to at his age.

They managed to bridge a lot of that with the movie. Before Dan saw that he wouldn't watch the TV version but the movie really drew him in.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:34 AM (kcfmt)

566 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:31 AM (X3lox)

TL;DR: We're Boned.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:37 AM (bxiXv)

567 Now whether that's still the case with George Noory and that other new guy, I have no idea......
Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 03:33 AM (pYA5L)


I was gonna say, Bell was an entertainer. Sure, he believed some odd stuff, but he had fun and it was entertaining and he could laugh about it.

Noory is apparently a Believer, I wouldn't waste my time.

I used to work late and often had Bell on the radio, like in the mid 90s.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:40 AM (bxiXv)

568 TL;DR: We're Boned.





Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:37 AM (bxiXv)


Imagine how I felt writing it. I wouldn't read it, either

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:41 AM (X3lox)

569 #561

To me Obama has always sounded like a caricature movie or TV character you knew was some sort of scam artist. A donation stealing evangelist or a snake oil salesman. Any casting director would have a section in their Rolodex of guys who had this role down to a T. (I recall one actor who looked a lot like Jerry Falwell who made a career of this. Richard Paul actually played Jerry Falwell in the Larry Flynt biopic.)


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:42 AM (kcfmt)

570 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:31 AM (X3lox)

I'm curious. What sort of language things did you notice?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:43 AM (v+ExF)

571
Combining two subjects from the ONT -- time and bicycles.

Scene - Garden of Eden. You have absolutely everything you need without any effort. Animals come up to you and butcher themselves. All food is abundant and does not require your time. However, you are alone. There is no one else on earth.


Constraints -- Your death is a normal modern lifetime away. You will not live more than 100 years as we understand the meaning of 100 years today.


Question -- Can you own a modern bicycle?


Answer -- I assert than none of us could. You could not prospect, mine, transport, smelt, make the tools and dies, and generate the energy needed to weld your metals in the time you have. Don't forget you would also have to produce leather and a variety of plastics or vulcanized rubber. Could you do it in 100 years? Doubtful. OK. Suppose you did. Now you have to make a road to ride it on. So get busy inventing tractors.


Impression -- I believe a serious chunk of the left has completely lost sight of the premise that everything we have is based on our willingness to cooperate -- that is, to share our time. They are so busy trying to steal other people's time that they actually diminish the likelihood that they will get much. When we offer it willingly -- there is plenty of time to go around -- every one can own a bicycle. When they are trying to steal it -- unemployment goes to 17%-18% and the lots of simple things become unobtainable. The real mystery to me is why they can never recognize the real outcome of their greed.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:44 AM (ufJKx)

572 #563

I think the attraction for cops is the probability of encountering one of the people on the show in the course of their job. Even if you aren't interested in the subject matter all that much, having the people behind turn up in your life makes it interesting in a different way.

Ever listen to a talk show and recognize a caller as someone you know? For me it's never been somebody I felt good about knowing.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:48 AM (kcfmt)

573 Epo, TPOP, Obama is a *professional speaker*. He is a *practiced speaker*.

The only reason you think he's an idiot is because you're thinking about what he's saying, that's the one "trick" he can't get past.

His job since college has been manipulating crowds. It's all he's done.

But if you're reading, or thinking about what he's saying, he looks like a dunce. Mind you, that excludes you as a member of his target audience, anyway.

He didn't need *you* to vote for him, he needed 50%+1. And he got it.

With a lot of help from his PR group (the MSM).

I'm about the worst audience a professional speaker can have, because my immediate response to "speaker tricks" is "what is this mindless pap?"

Someone was telling me that they didn't agree with him but he was a good speaker, we talked in detail about it and they realized that he was a terrible speaker, but mesmerizing to a degree - vocal tones, expressions, key words, etc. An odd combination of a smooth talker and a fumbling idiot.

He'd never make it in Hollywood because of the latter.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:49 AM (bxiXv)

574 561


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:31 AM (X3lox)


===


well said.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 03:51 AM (ufJKx)

575 #571

A bicycle would be pretty ambitious. To use the more famous example, it would be beyond you to make a simple #2 pencil.

Cue Milton
youtube.com/watch?v=d6vjrzUplWU

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 03:51 AM (kcfmt)

576 I was gonna say, Bell was an entertainer. Sure, he believed some odd stuff, but he had fun and it was entertaining and he could laugh about it. Noory is apparently a Believer, I wouldn't waste my time.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 03:40 AM (bxiXv)

Agreed - one constant, though, from Bell to Noory, is the callers. They are always entertaining, in the sense of "okay, which part of the DSM IV applies here?" and the occasional "man, now that is a well-constructed hoax." The show does suffer, though, from not having that end-of-the-Millennium paranoia from the '90s that Chris Carter, for one, exploited so brilliantly as well.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 03:52 AM (pYA5L)

577
The real mystery to me is why they can never recognize the real outcome of their greed.


Posted by: jc
------------------------

They don't think more than a millimeter deep. It's amazing how you can drive lefties crazy with a single question like "So where are the paper clips going to come from?" or "Why would Bush go all the way to Iraq to steal oil at the cost of thousands of lives and bazillions of dollars when he could have simply invaded Canada on Sunday and Mexico on Monday and thus gotten it just as easily?" They never EVER think beyond Step 1 (except when it consists of ??? and Step 3 is World Peace! or Profit! or whatever).

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 20, 2012 03:52 AM (aKuvU)

578 I'm curious. What sort of language things did you notice?



Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:43 AM (v+ExF)


I can't remember all the specifics, now, but he had major problems with the indefinite article and he did use a bunch of idioms incorrectly. I used to write about them all the time during the 2008 election. Weird stuff. Then there were his mistakes with basic American knowledge - the "57 states", stuff like that. I just remember that every week or two I would be writing something about his latest mistake and how it was something that no American would make.

I wish I could remember the specifics of the language parts, because it had really irked me during the campaign. Often. I'll try and search for my old posts, though I was posting under more than few different screenames and I don't even remember all of them. I used to make lists of these things.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 03:54 AM (X3lox)

579 Question -- Can you own a modern bicycle?

Today in the heat delirium of yard work, I thought of the following commercial ...

A sort of scene from Dr. Zhivago where people are evacuating the city and everyone is losing track their loved ones and all of a sudden, somebody pulls out a cell phone and calls and locates their loved one and they make arrangements to find each other ...

And the tag line ... If you like drama stick to Tolstoy*, for everyone else there's technology.

* Yes I know Dr. Zhivago wasn't Tolstoy.

Engineers rule!

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 03:55 AM (NgwbY)

580 So whatever happened to Art Bell? Anyone know?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 03:27 AM (v+ExF)


Living with a trophy wife in the Phillipines.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 03:57 AM (4ixH5)

581 Engineers rule:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc

hat tip: American Digest

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:01 AM (NgwbY)

582 Heck, I was just wondering if Bell was still alive.

Didn't his first wife die in some odd fashion?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:02 AM (v+ExF)

583 Robert -

hopefully not worked blocked ...

Tangerine Dream: Stratosfear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w8VsvJ40sM

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:04 AM (NgwbY)

584 Didn't his first wife die in some odd fashion?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:02 AM (v+ExF)

Death by erotic asphyxiation after being abducted by alien tentacle beasts before being dissected and dumped in a field full of cows.
*Cough*
Death from asthma according to Wikidingdong.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 04:06 AM (4ixH5)

585 hopefully not worked blocked ...

Tangerine Dream: Stratosfear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w8VsvJ40sM


Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:04 AM (NgwbY)

There is no hope in the forskaen places of the internets.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 04:07 AM (4ixH5)

586 And Dr. Demento still walks among us...

Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 04:07 AM (FQlFL)

587 586
And Dr. Demento still walks among us...


Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 04:07 AM (FQlFL)

=====

http://tinyurl.com/yqa24v

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:09 AM (ufJKx)

588 Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 04:06 AM (4ixH5)

Gotta admit, I like the first explanation...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:10 AM (v+ExF)

589 A sort of scene from Dr. Zhivago where people are evacuating the city and everyone is losing track their loved ones and all of a sudden, somebody pulls out a cell phone and calls and locates their loved one and they make arrangements to find each other ...
Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 03:55 AM (NgwbY)

If Yuri could only have just called Laura (not to mention their daughter, when Rod Steiger abandoned her in the crowd).....

But then we wouldn't have had the bittersweet ending with Alec Guinness at the dam and the strains of "Laura's Theme" swelling up over the closing credits. And honestly, how else do you end any Russian epic except tragically? Especially when it's set in the era of Lenin and Stalin.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:12 AM (pYA5L)

590 A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:12 AM (pYA5L)


If you like your Tolstoy, you can keep your Tolstoy ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:18 AM (NgwbY)

591 But your employer is going to drop Tolstoy, so that Tolstoy you like will become an out of pocket expense.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:20 AM (kcfmt)

592 590
A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:12 AM (pYA5L)



If you like your Tolstoy, you can keep your Tolstoy ...


Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:18 AM (NgwbY)

===
I dread the day when my parents or disabled child have to stand before the novel panels. . .

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:20 AM (ufJKx)

593 HH, I've been searching but I haven't been able to find the posts. Tough to get comments from these blog pages. But it was stuff like his "8-10 years" describing his future presidency - not the language issue but the "raised elsewhere" thing. And I found some old posts I wrote about the marxist babble like (from an old hotair comment):


Did it sound to anyone else like BHO was just repeating from memory (with a mistake or two) when he said:
the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.
The way he ran through this contorted sentence and then changed his voice and inflection seemed very odd to me. No big deal, just odd.October 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM


I'll look later for the language parts, because they did set me off. I'll have to remember some of the words I used to describe it, in order to be able to find the stuff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2012 04:22 AM (X3lox)

594 Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:20 AM (ufJKx)

Or the comic book panels...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:23 AM (v+ExF)

595 but, but, but Tolstoy readers will be provided with free birth control ...

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at May 20, 2012 04:23 AM (NgwbY)

596 At some point I have to shut this machine down to install the Blu-ray burner I bought yesterday.

Considering that Hollywood says we're killing them with torrents, I wonder that so few people have adopted burning their own and driven the price down. $77 was pretty high for long the drives have been on the market. And the blanks still average close to buck each if you don't find a good promotion or buy in large amounts.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:23 AM (kcfmt)

597 If you like your Tolstoy, you can keep your Tolstoy ...
Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:18 AM (NgwbY)


And if you don't like your Tolstoy, you still get to keep your Tolstoy, and pay for it. And mine.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 04:26 AM (bxiXv)

598 Living with a trophy wife in the Phillipines.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 03:57 AM (4ixH5)


Strike that last bit. Living with a trophy wife in Nevada.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 04:27 AM (4ixH5)

599 591
But your employer is going to drop Tolstoy, so that Tolstoy you like will become an out of pocket expense.



Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:20 AM (kcfmt)

===
Tolstoy is mandatory for my birth control and I need $3K/yr in Tolstoy. The real birth control is my personality, but the Tolstoy helps keep that aspect of my personality at top performance.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:28 AM (ufJKx)

600 Open to suggestions:

Since my boys were young, we always had a 60 lb body weight in the basement. We bought it for them to work out with. It turned out that I got more use out of it than they did, suppressing my fits of rage.

Well, the boys are grown and gone, and the last time I tried to play Rocky with the side of beef, I ended up with a gout attack in my knee that left me crippled for almost a week. So i decided to give the bag to my oldest son and his 2 boys (9 and 11).

So, what do I do now? A joy ride doesn't give me the exhaustive relief I need, and I kill some else or myself. I've never been a wall beater, and have never attacked animate objects like wife or children or animals. (The side of beef was inanimate.) How do you relieve those fits of rage at my age where you may want to live or walk another day?

(BTW, i don't think it's an anger management thing, since it only happens 1 to 5 years.)

Thanks for your advice.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 04:29 AM (j+Izh)

601 The Phillipines is close to Nevada ... if Nevada tipped over, that is.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at May 20, 2012 04:29 AM (NgwbY)

602 Adriane - well done, but with me it's more my David Lean.

His Zhivagowas far superior, in my view, to Pasternak's original - he brought out something about the Russian soul in that one that no other film has ever quite managed, and evoked more from the story than the novel seemed to contain. Sort of like what he did with Pierre Boule and Bridge Over the River Kwai. (Though to be fair, the same thing occurred when Schaffner brought Boule's Planet of theApes to the screen - the film touched on something primal that Boule haddn't even suggested in the book.)

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:31 AM (pYA5L)

603 http://tinyurl.com/bv55snf


World needs more high class porn, apparently.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 04:34 AM (4ixH5)

604 An ability to speak lengthy passages from Tolstoy aloud from memory is probably as effective a form of birth control as can be invented.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:36 AM (kcfmt)

605 600

So, what do I do now?



Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 04:29 AM (j+Izh)


====
I am having this vague image involving valu-rite and hobos, but I just can't seem to reel it in.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:38 AM (ufJKx)

606 Well, the boys are grown and gone, and the last time I tried to play Rocky with the side of beef, I ended up with a gout attack in my knee that left me crippled for almost a week. So i decided to give the bag to my oldest son and his 2 boys (9 and 11).

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 04:29 AM (j+Izh)


Hydrate adequately, take Aleve before exercising or when you suspect an attack is imminent, and get another bag.

And/or find a good doctor with actual medical advice.

- Dehydration triggers attacks
- Aleve (Naproxen) is the OTC medication that best addresses gout or pseudo-gout

Also, keep your feet warm, especially at night. Cold extremities can also trigger gout attacks.

Also, if you're on diuretics, they also trigger gout attacks (because dehydration). In which case you're kind of screwed.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 04:39 AM (bxiXv)

607 #603

Proving there are other means than performing in film or TV for a professional silly person to make a living.

Whats next for porn? More people having sex is my guess. (And what do we burn with witches?)

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:39 AM (kcfmt)

608 #602

The movie of 'Apes' dumped about 95% of the book. The novel was a social satire. The movie was an action adventure story.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:42 AM (kcfmt)

609 Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:31 AM (pYA5L)

Planet of the Apes is actually quite funny.

But hate to give a spoiler here about "Bridge".

They don't blow up the bridge.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:42 AM (v+ExF)

610 Laura Ingalls Wilder - Little House on the Prairie - later in life recreated her families' harrowing trip but this time with a car.

It took less than 12 hours ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:44 AM (NgwbY)

611 Comparing the movie to the book of 'Planet of the Apes' reminds of a cartoon that ran in a genre magazine (Starlog?) long ago. It shows a studio exec on the phone saying, "But Mr. Herbert, Alan Dean Foster does all of our novelizations!"

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:45 AM (kcfmt)

612 Was there a significant anti-war movie between "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "Bridge?"

Posted by: derit at May 20, 2012 04:45 AM (FQlFL)

613 Talking about the books, not the movies...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:45 AM (v+ExF)

614 An ability to speak lengthy passages from Tolstoy aloud from memory is probably as effective a form of birth control as can be invented.
Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:36 AM (kcfmt)

What about Solzhenitsyn? That guy put the "eek!" in "bleak."

(Though I'm trying to remember what reviewer said he felt compelled to put on evening dress while reading A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich.)

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 04:49 AM (pYA5L)

615 An ability to speak lengthy passages from Tolstoy aloud from memory is
probably as effective a form of birth control as can be invented.


You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:50 AM (NgwbY)

616 615
An ability to speak lengthy passages from Tolstoy aloud from memory is

probably as effective a form of birth control as can be invented.

You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant ...


Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:50 AM (NgwbY)

====
Tolstoy with color, glossy photos with circles and arrows is a horrifying thought.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 04:53 AM (ufJKx)

617 #612

That depends. Do pro-Soviet screeds count?

Wiki has a list of 'anti-war films' but Bridge doesn't appear. A lot of the entries are kind of WTF. There are several movies that bring attention to the tragedies resulting from war but not to the extent that the war in question should have not been fought. Such as Dean Stockwell's debut in the 1948 'The Boy With Green Hair.'

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 04:54 AM (kcfmt)

618 Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 04:44 AM (NgwbY)

Word...

She and her co-author Rose made a lot of stuff up.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 04:56 AM (v+ExF)

619 Thanks, Merovign. Uloric doesn't seem to work that well for preventing attacks. Prednisone works best for relief, but use must be limited and can't be used for prevention. Watching my hydration sounds like a good idea, though i've never had abnormal blood scan (except for hemoglobin). Have also gotten relief from Ibuprofen, but with limited success. Haven't tried Aleve yet. Is that something I can take every day? I've had internal bleeding issues which wants my doctor for to stay way from NSIDs as much as possible.

Any suggestions on dealing with the rage issues, not necessarily preventing, but getting through relatively unharmed?

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 04:57 AM (j+Izh)

620 Was there a significant anti-war movie between "All Quiet on the Western Front" and "Bridge?"


Posted by: derit
---------------------

Well, maybe sort of . . . Gone With the Wind

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 20, 2012 05:00 AM (aKuvU)

621 HH at May 20, 2012 04:56 AM (v+ExF)

According to her bio, one of her motivations was to teach just how much America had changed in her lifetime ...

My oldest sister once started writing down all the stories my grandmother used to tell us ... My great-grandfather once owned only 1 of 2 or 3 cars in the entire county. The roads were mostly dirt and once in a while he'd have to hire a farmer and a team to pull the car out of the mud during rainy season.

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:01 AM (NgwbY)

622 Playing Check-Off with the Kama Sutra may not lead to better birth control, but it will make the Lamaze classes go a lot easier.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 05:04 AM (j+Izh)

623 Any suggestions on dealing with the rage issues, not necessarily preventing, but getting through relatively unharmed?

Fencing ...

Painting your tormentor's face on a racquetball and wailing the shi!t out of it in the court ...

Rowing machine ... the ergometer kind ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:06 AM (NgwbY)

624 My maternal grandfather came to be one of the first car dealers in his area by starting off with a junkyard just as cars were becoming a big contributor to the scrap metal business. He would get called out to haul off wrecks and taught himself about cars to learn what he could salvage. This soon lead to a sideline in car repairs taking advantage of the cheap parts source, and later getting a dealership.

One of his sons had developed a great affection for European cars while serving on the continent in WWII. The contacts he developed lead to him being approach to be the first US distributor for Volkswagen. He turned it down because it looked like a loser to him.

Opportunity knocked and he rolled over and went back to sleep.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:09 AM (kcfmt)

625 #608 - agreed. If anything, Tim Burton attempted to hew closer to Boule's original, and we all saw how well that worked..... But I'd argue that the satire was retained, writ large and considerably darker, in Schaffner's version, in a Swiftian sense (probably thanks to Serling's contributions to the script) and it hit on some very primal chords for audiences at the time. (Or at least that's how I remember the original release - for a late Sixties crowd steeped in the fears of the Cold War, domestic unrestand Vietnam, it had more of a sci-fi horror than an action-adventure vibe, where the satirical elements came across as the darkest of dark humor. The dead silence at the twist ending was matched, as I recall, by the hush over the theater crowd.)

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 05:10 AM (pYA5L)

626 I seem to remember chopping wood as a good outlet. All I need now is someone who needs wood chopped (and not hickory.)

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 05:15 AM (j+Izh)

627 #625

There was another connection. I went to school for a few years down the road in Calabasas from the property where a lot of the exteriors in the Apes movies and TV series were shot. Also MASH and Kung Fu, among the bigger names. The mountains in the opening of MASH were visible from the school, so we'd joke about being bussed to Korea.

Anyway, a whole bunch of movie depicting scenes in Vietnam were shot in the same fields where the Apes chased down Charlton Heston. In a subliminal sense they in Vietnam!

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:17 AM (kcfmt)

628 #625

Also, the feel of the movie was a lot like the SF being written that era by Spinrad, Brunner, and others. It was more in sync with that vibe than the era Boulle was coming from when he wrote his novel.

But books and movies feed off each other, blending together to create the feel of an era.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:19 AM (kcfmt)

629 http://tinyurl.com/buwkhy7

Spengler on Robert Spencer's new book, Did Mohammed Exist?

I'm betting he probably did. Hard to think anyone would make up a murderous Jew hating warlord pedophile, even in the sixth century. A lot of other details were probably made up, but I wouldn't bet on Moe not existing.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:20 AM (4ixH5)

630 Which makes me wonder if it is finally time for a full no-holds-barred miniseries adaptation of Philip Jose Farmer's Image of the Beast and Blown set.

He perfectly captured much of late 60s / early 70s LA but with an incredibly pornographic horror-SF story. Maybe that French guy referenced above could get backing for it.


Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:22 AM (kcfmt)

631 #629

I don't know. Maybe it was the 6th Century equivalent of a couple of Jewish kids from Cleveland creating Superman.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:24 AM (kcfmt)

632 I was hoping for a Bridge of Birds ... Brandon Lee was still alive and I thought he would make a great Number 10 Ox ... but that was then.

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:24 AM (NgwbY)

633 Scrap steel is getting some pretty good money now. If I recall correctly, my one son said he got $0.20 a lb. the other day. That works out to about $5 for a used brake rotor that cost $12 new.

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 05:25 AM (j+Izh)

634 Roses are red,
Violets are flowers,
I will never be in comic books or movies,
as I have no superpowers!

Burmashave ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:31 AM (NgwbY)

635 I don't know. Maybe it was the 6th Century equivalent of a couple of Jewish kids from Cleveland creating Superman.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:24 AM (kcfmt)


Lois Lane = Aisha?


Intrigued by your ideas, I am.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:31 AM (4ixH5)

636
Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:31 AM (NgwbY)

You are Mannequin Lass, with the power to whisper secret messages from the ninth floor of an eight story Home Depot.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:32 AM (4ixH5)

637 Roses are red,
so are Holly Berries,
apples, tomatoes, and grapes,
and a pie or just a handful of cherries ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:34 AM (NgwbY)

638 Speak not of pie to me, wench!

Posted by: Robertm wants some pie now at May 20, 2012 05:36 AM (4ixH5)

639 You are Mannequin Lass, with the power to whisper secret messages from the ninth floor of an eight story Home Depot.

Secret decoder ring available with every purchase of Behr or Glidden paint!

Elevator rides not included ...

Posted by: A less cynical Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:37 AM (NgwbY)

640 Speak not of pie to me, wench!

Damn Straight!!!!

Posted by: Four and Twenty Blackbirds at May 20, 2012 05:38 AM (NgwbY)

641 Well, time to shut down and install that drive. Before it gets silly in here...

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:38 AM (kcfmt)

642 Good night, Epo.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:40 AM (4ixH5)

643 Wait, when did Adriane get a new hash?

I want a new hash!

Hash.

Hash browns.

DAMMIT!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:40 AM (4ixH5)

644 Fucking diet...

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:41 AM (4ixH5)

645 night, epobirs ...

may your blueray drive never give you a moments silliness ...

Posted by: The spell check is in the mail at May 20, 2012 05:41 AM (NgwbY)

646 Epobirs - that had to be fascinating, growing up within the midst of the film and production world like that. And I love the detail linking the cornfield chase scene in POTA with the later use for shots set in Vietnam - it's perfect, almost synchroncity!

I still wonder if part of the shock POTA generated for me and so many others back in '68 (apart from the amazing make-up effects) was seeing Charlton Heston in such an uncharacteristic role - here was Ben Hur/Moses coming off from the first scene to the last as a misanthropic, cynical anti-hero with anarchic tendencies. That was playing against type in a major way, and that was still more than a bit uncommon for that time and place.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 05:41 AM (pYA5L)

647 Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:22 AM (kcfmt)

Yer taxing my memory here. "River World".

And Sir Richard Burton.

Good times...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 05:41 AM (v+ExF)

648 Bye Kids, CYA.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2012 05:42 AM (ufJKx)

649 night, jc.

Posted by: AdrianeN at May 20, 2012 05:43 AM (NgwbY)

650 Good night, JC!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:44 AM (4ixH5)

651 Posted by: AdrianeN


I can see where this is going.

Posted by: RobertO at May 20, 2012 05:46 AM (4ixH5)

652 The thing I remember most about growing up in Arabia is that crunchy sound every time you blink your eyes. You'd think you'd get used to it after a while, but as as you get older your hearing gets more sensitive, so it's kind of a wash. Did i say wash? I really don't think there's an Arabic equivalent to "wash". "Work up a good sneeze, blow, and wipe" is probably as close as it gets to "wash."

Posted by: Mo - the early years at May 20, 2012 05:47 AM (j+Izh)

653 That was playing against type in a major way, and that was still more than a bit uncommon for that time and place.

true dat.

Omega Man and Solyent Green will still a few years off.

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:47 AM (NgwbY)

654 I can see it clearly ... going downhill and all that ...

Posted by: JohnP at May 20, 2012 05:49 AM (NgwbY)

655
I almost forgot. I have the Windows 8 machine here too. Ace of Spades HQ in Metro!
Forgot how cluttered this place is without AdBlock.
I never really picked up on it as a kid, probably because I often missed the opening scenes but Taylor really was a son of a bitch. I'd been under the incorrect impression that the relativistic time dilation effect was an accident and didn't realize it was a one-way trip with the personnel chosen accordingly until a much later viewing.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:50 AM (kcfmt)

656 Roses are red,
and so are good books,
Soon to sleep,
Preserve what's left of my looks ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:51 AM (NgwbY)

657 And..... I see the thread is closing down. Night to all, and put medown as well on the listin favor of a decent film version of Bridge of Birds (or any of the books in that wonderful series).

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 05:52 AM (pYA5L)

658 Good night, Adriane!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:53 AM (4ixH5)

659 Good night, Pendragon.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:53 AM (4ixH5)

660 The sky is blue,
But the clouds are white,
Getting to be the time,
I say Everybody, Good Night ...

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:54 AM (NgwbY)

661 I almost forgot. I have the Windows 8 machine here too.



Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 05:50 AM (kcfmt)

Any good?

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:54 AM (4ixH5)

662 Still got a few minutes myself. Oh, what's this?

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:54 AM (4ixH5)

663 Don't mind me.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)

664 Dooby dooby doooooooo!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)

665 Why hey thar!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:55 AM (4ixH5)

668 Puffy clouds are white,
Rainy clouds are grey,
Time is rapidly approaching,
When I go and hit the ... hey! you hit me!!!!

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:56 AM (NgwbY)

669 Keep posting...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 05:56 AM (v+ExF)

670 That'll be it for me. Got woik to do.

Good night, ever'buddy!

Good morning, Vic!

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2012 05:56 AM (4ixH5)

671 Robert for the slam dunk!!!!

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:56 AM (NgwbY)

672 night, HH

MORNING VIC !!!!

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:57 AM (NgwbY)

673 night, Robert

happy woik!

oh yeah, PIE !!!!

Posted by: Adriane at May 20, 2012 05:58 AM (NgwbY)

674 Hmmm, looks like last call at a Bar...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 06:00 AM (v+ExF)

675
HH, if you've never read Farmer's excursions into porn, they are really something else. Fanfic from before there was any newgroups to post it in.
Harold Childe, the lead character of Image of the Beast and Blown is also the lead of Traitor to the Living but for all means and purposes a different incarnation of the character because Farmer chose to have him come to believe everything that happened in the previous books was a dream.
There is a house in there that I tracked down in real life, a couple miles from where my aunt and her family used to live. It had been rented to a log succession of actors and pop stars since the 50s and was the location for many notorious tales.
The other great Farmer porn is A Feast Unknown. This is a huge conspiracy story involving the Illuminati and Lord Grandrith (Tarzan) being tricked into a battle tot he death with Doc Caliban (Doc Savage). Incredibly over the top. It has a non-porn sequel that takes the form of two novels that overlap at the end as each hero tracks down their common enemy. Each book is done in the style of the original inspirational material and Farmer nails it.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:01 AM (kcfmt)

676 do straight people even use lube when they have sex?

Posted by: jimi ray at May 20, 2012 06:04 AM (FcOR4)

677 And i remember how mama used to shoosh the scorpions away as the babies were playing in the tent on the sand floor. Some of the sneaky little devils were almost the color of sand, so unless they were moving, you couldn't see the little boogers. But a good "whoosh/snap" and they were history. The ones that did make contact left a nasty scar after the pustule healed up. "The Star of Mohammed" is what I called them when I got older and needed a good hook to get the outcasts to start following me (before I had a real army.)

Posted by: Mo - the early years at May 20, 2012 06:05 AM (j+Izh)

678
#661
Works fine but I still don't know all the controls on the Metro version of IE.
The box is a Core 2 Duo I originally built as a Vista test bed. It says a lot about how Microsoft has changed, or at least decided PC power had reached a plateau for minimum requirements, that it runs so well.
I also have it running on a HP laptop running an AMD A6-3600 APU. I use a Hotmail account as my login on both so they automatically sync a bunch of stuff. Windows 7 is supposed to gain some of that once they feel it is sufficiently tested in the 8 Preview.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:07 AM (kcfmt)

679 It's been a long, long time since I read Farmer. However, that last sentence of yours rings a bell. Did they sort of publish it like it was an old Sci-fi double?

Tarzan on one side, Doc Savage on the other?

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 06:11 AM (v+ExF)

680
I knew about laser printers but apparently another item you shouldn't plug into a UPS is a vacuum cleaner.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:11 AM (kcfmt)

681
#679

Exactly. It picks up where A Feast Unknown left off but gives nary a hint of the wild content.
Farmer of course did biographies of Tarzan and Doc Savage that used a lot of the same ideas and tied them into myriad other pulp heroes. It established Doc's father, Clark Savage Sr. as having been Jack the Ripper during a period of madness and raising his son to be a champion of justice to seek redemption.
Doc's and Tarzan's fathers were brothers and both were present with their wives at a meteorite crash that exposed them and their unborn sons to strange radiation.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:16 AM (kcfmt)

682
The titles if I recall correctly are Lord of the Trees and The Mad Goblin.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:34 AM (kcfmt)

683 Of course as a kid, I wasn't always the most discerning reader. As a matter of fact, probably most of my decisions on buying books had to do with the cover art.

Frazetta...

No one like him, before or since.

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 06:37 AM (v+ExF)

684 Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:34 AM (kcfmt)

Oh you are good. Yes, those were the titles...

Posted by: HH at May 20, 2012 06:41 AM (v+ExF)

685 Yes, I formally bid adieu earlier, but checked in one last time....was delighted to see reference to the Wold Newton mythos. And, am I remembering wrongly, or didn't Farmer do a short story based on the premise of William (rather than Edgar Rice) Burroughs writing Tarzan? I want to say it was in the same anthology where he had one tale where Tom Mix was revealed to be an alien with some .....unusual..... attributes and another from the Riverworld universe where a certain Bethlehem native figures as a character.

And now, off for real. No crossed fingers or nuttin'.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at May 20, 2012 06:49 AM (pYA5L)

686
Yep, he did that. 'The Jungle Rot Kid on the Nod.' Also, JC on the Dude Ranch, The Leasher of Two Evils, and some other wild tales.

Posted by: epobirs at May 20, 2012 06:54 AM (kcfmt)

687 Have also gotten relief from Ibuprofen, but with limited success. Haven't tried Aleve yet. Is that something I can take every day? I've had internal bleeding issues which wants my doctor for to stay way from NSIDs as much as possible.

Sorry I disappeared, now I have to sleep. Catch me later.

Aleve is specifically better with gout than any other OTC painkiller. It is a NSAID like any other, and can cause bleeding issues. I would only use it when expecting an attack or during an attack, it's the only thing (even counting prescription meds) that I've found can stop an attack (combined with hydration).

Hydration is super-uber important and doctors generally ignore it. You're literally flushing the chemicals you've built up out, or when dehydrating allowing them to build up.

Any suggestions on dealing with the rage issues, not necessarily preventing, but getting through relatively unharmed?
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 20, 2012 04:57 AM (j+Izh)


Have you seen me getting pissed and lashing out at people? Pssssh, ask a Hollywood star about long happy marriages first.

I just avoid people when I get pissed. It's the huge array of heart drugs I'm on, I have no real control over it other than avoiding stimulus. Effing doctors and their effing pills.

I hope you see this, because I'll forget.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2012 07:05 AM (bxiXv)

688 SNL has been a profoundly stupid and and unfunny show for 20 or so years now, and I can't remember the last time I watched it.

...but damn, Jagger and Jeff Beck rocked it last night. I'd put Beck up against anyone on the guitar.

Via Mediaite.. http://tinyurl.com/cff8bqv

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 20, 2012 07:17 AM (Yhu4q)

689 Wow...Beck must be pushing 70. He looks great. Deal with the Devil, maybe?

Posted by: Albie Damned at May 20, 2012 07:23 AM (Yhu4q)






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