Obama Motor Company Not Doing So Well; Fisker-Karma Luxury Car That You Paid For Catches Fire In Garage
“Yes, the Karma was the origin of the fire, but what exactly caused that we don’t know at this time,” he said. The car was a complete loss. According to Baker, the driver arrived home in the Fisker, pulled into the garage, and less than three minutes later the car was in flames. It reportedly was not plugged in at the time of the fire and the Karma’s battery remains intact.You paid for this, thanks to the Stimulus, and Obama's demented dartboard investment strategy. Obama has rejected capitalism and its so-called "creative destruction." In its place, Obama offers fiery destruction.
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Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:02 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 08:02 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:03 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:04 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: wooga at May 09, 2012 08:04 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: runninrebel at May 09, 2012 08:05 PM (N/1Dm)
just proving yet again that carbon wants to be FREEEEEEE!
Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 09, 2012 08:05 PM (eF5xS)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 08:06 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Jimbo (SMOD 2012's biggest fan) at May 09, 2012 08:08 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:08 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2012 08:08 PM (HethX)
Posted by: Mr_Write at May 09, 2012 08:08 PM (VJUQK)
Posted by: Christopher Walken at May 09, 2012 08:09 PM (3SvjA)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:09 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 09, 2012 08:09 PM (noo6E)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:09 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:10 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: guy who shouts "en fuego" at May 09, 2012 08:10 PM (mafHs)
"Baker estimated damages at roughly $100,000, not including the other two
vehicles in the garage, a Mercedes-Benz SUV and an Acura NSX."
I'm going to go ahead and suggest that these things are engineered to wipe out any SUV's, should the opportunity present itself. Well done you sinister bastards...
Posted by: Dave S. at May 09, 2012 08:11 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: Y-not at May 09, 2012 08:11 PM (5H6zj)
Too bad. Obama's dogma got grilled on his BBQ.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:12 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Whitehouse Spinmeister at May 09, 2012 08:13 PM (lZBBB)
Not. One.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 09, 2012 08:14 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: ontherocks at May 09, 2012 08:14 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Mr_Write at May 09, 2012 08:14 PM (VJUQK)
As if it weren't annoying enough to pull up in my old rag-top POS in front of my "hair designer" and see the first several parking spots saved for Environmentally Correct Vehicles.
Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:14 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: fgdfgd at May 09, 2012 08:14 PM (S8/4P)
vehicles in the garage, a Mercedes-Benz SUV and an Acura NSX.
That's what you get for taking my NSX, Leno.
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (mafHs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Chrissy Mathews at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (IoNBC)
It seems Fiskar not only set his house on fire, they are a complete set of pricks.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (O3R/2)
Too bad. Obama's dogma got grilled on his BBQ.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:12 PM (O3R/2)
Hmmm.... well... if Obama's Dog's Mawas riding inthe Karma....
Poached Pooch? Fido Flambe?
Posted by: Whitehouse Spinmeister at May 09, 2012 08:15 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:16 PM (piMMO)
Oh lord, my eye just started twitching. I wonder what fee they jacked up to give the "free" electricity away.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 08:16 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2012 08:16 PM (7W3wI)
Please use normal sentence structure. I am old. I have not attended school since Obama became "The One"
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:17 PM (O3R/2)
****
Tell me that there are coin slots attached to them.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:17 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2012 08:18 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: American Taxpayer at May 09, 2012 08:18 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:18 PM (niZvt)
You've gotta be kidding.
How about gas? Will they put gas in your car if it is empty and you can't get home?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:18 PM (piMMO)
---------------------------------
So was our investment.
Posted by: American Taxpayer at May 09, 2012 08:18 PM (AzwZn)
So's the Obama presidency.
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:19 PM (niZvt)
We've just installed chargers (for free)
Oh lord, my eye just started twitching. I wonder what fee they jacked up to give the "free" electricity away.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 08:16 PM (Gk3SS
Alex honey, you have no idea. No one has even seen a battery powered POS car. Lots and lots of high-end cars, however.
We are doomed in Savannah as long as we are totally dominated by libtards.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:19 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:19 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2012 08:20 PM (Klb0T)
Posted by: Dave S. at May 09, 2012 08:11 PM (UvR6d) The part I like is that a guy that can afford an Acura, a Benz and a Fisker is getting a fucking $7,500 tax credit to buy his third car.
Posted by: robtr at May 09, 2012 08:20 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 08:20 PM (YlSwz)
Posted by: Dave S. at May 09, 2012 08:20 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:20 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:21 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Obama2012-Full Of Win! at May 09, 2012 08:22 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2012 08:22 PM (Klb0T)
the original AutoWeek article defending electric cars with "Yeah, but
gas-powered cars light on fire all the time too!!!111!!1!"
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:21 PM (96M6e)
Of course, the libs miss the fact that the beauty of the internal combustion engine is the "internal" part.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:23 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Fritz at May 09, 2012 08:23 PM (/9E6Z)
Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2012 08:23 PM (Klb0T)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:23 PM (X3lox)
Make up your mind.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:24 PM (O3R/2)
My old electric Mattel Hot Wheels cars never burned down our house when I was a kid.
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:24 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:25 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:23 PM (X3lox)
I thought that (in theory) external combustion was more efficient, but I guess that was meant to refer to controlled localized external combustion, not house level incineration.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 09, 2012 08:25 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:26 PM (96M6e)
What the hell is that in his hand? Labrador Latte??
Posted by: Jensen Bauer at May 09, 2012 08:26 PM (E01Zr)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 09, 2012 08:26 PM (54NmX)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 08:27 PM (cjTjM)
****
That's it!!!
You've nailed it. I'll never again refer to them in any other way.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:27 PM (niZvt)
So if you let the battery completely die on the Fisker Karma you "brick" it.
If you leave it in the garage it briquettes your house.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2012 08:27 PM (Klb0T)
That's it, from now on I'm referring to electric motors as external combustion engines.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:28 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:28 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:28 PM (96M6e)
If you start me up
If you burn me up I'll never stop
If you start me up
If you burn me up I'll never stop
I've been running hot
You got me sparking gonna blow my top
If you burn me up
If you burn me up I'll never stop
Never stop, never stop, never stop
You make a grown man cry
You make a grown man cry
You make a grown man cry
Spread out the oil, the gasoline
I walk smooth, ride in a mean, mean machine
Burn it up
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 08:28 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:29 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2012 08:29 PM (7W3wI)
I consider myself denounced.
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:30 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 09, 2012 08:30 PM (54NmX)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:26 PM (96M6e)
As Hrothgar pointed out, there are real external combustion engines, but they'll just have to find another name. The electric engines own that name, now.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:31 PM (X3lox)
I hear dog whistles. Coded, even.
Posted by: Juan Williams at May 09, 2012 08:31 PM (niZvt)
I really, really think that her sister (Elizabeth) is much better looking.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:31 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 08:16 PM (Gk3SS)
It's the Chicago Way - money for "the boys."
Known in "non-crook-ville" as corruption.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 09, 2012 08:31 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 09, 2012 08:33 PM (54NmX)
I notice the "Cocoa" sign in the video passes over only Barry and Michelle's heads.
I hear dog whistles. Coded, even.
Posted by: Juan Williams at May 09, 2012 08:31 PM (niZvt)
Pretty sure that's a Coach store Juan. However, Coach is famous for leather and you make whips out of leather and dogs chew leather toys and cows are bad for the environment so.............whistle
Posted by: dagny at May 09, 2012 08:33 PM (JoL4S)
Get used to car fires in Electric Cars.
DC Batteries contain a lot of energy, and can deliver a lot of current to a short circuit or fault. Any short cicuit. Think of it as an Arc Welder that suddenly turns on in a part of your car. If it starts a fire in something flammable, then expect it to keep on burning.
Lucky for these people their new house was built woth firestop drywall in the garage.
Posted by: rd at May 09, 2012 08:33 PM (9sUlj)
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 08:33 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:25 PM (X3lox)
I think she's adorable. Her sister is a stunning.beauty
Posted by: Joe Theisman's Prostate at May 09, 2012 08:33 PM (AxHOT)
You've nailed it. I'll never again refer to them in any other way.Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:27 PM (piMMO)
That's fine, but please refrain from references to "a complete set of pricks" in the future as I've just spent the last ten minutes standing on my head in a bucket of Clorox....thank you in advance
Posted by: ontherocks at May 09, 2012 08:34 PM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 09, 2012 08:34 PM (54NmX)
And Lovitz, STFU and stand up for what you believe, you idiot.
Jeebus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:35 PM (UOM48)
striking with on 1/4 mile raining severe weather warning and they refuse
to call the baseball game.... Oh did I mention the kids are leaning
against the chain link fence?
*****
What's the distance? 11 miles I think it is.
Lightning an strike from something like 11 miles away.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:35 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Andy at May 09, 2012 08:35 PM (XG+Mn)
Posted by: robtr at May 09, 2012 08:36 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: EC at May 09, 2012 08:36 PM (R15UB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:37 PM (UOM48)
ergo, this must have been a drug related 'hit', which missed....
Posted by: Fisker Spinmeister, whose read too many Bad Mysteries. at May 09, 2012 08:37 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:37 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 08:37 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: The Crazy World of Arthur Brown at May 09, 2012 08:38 PM (GsBJY)
Stupid idiot thinks Barry will "take care of him" after the election.
Fuckwit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:39 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: robtr at May 09, 2012 08:39 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:39 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Patrick at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (6WpNC)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (cVW2x)
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (cVW2x)
Ride across the sky.
Wheels of fire burning bright.
We live to ride!
Posted by: Man O. War at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (sylYH)
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (cVW2x)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (O3R/2) Well left with that choice I am on Bill's side on that one.
Posted by: robtr at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Ronster at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (mHC3R)
striking with on 1/4 mile raining severe weather warning and they refuse
to call the baseball game.... Oh did I mention the kids are leaning
against the chain link fence?
*****
What's the distance? 11 miles I think it is.
Lightning an strike from something like 11 miles away.
Standing in the yard talking to a neighbor about fifteen feet away when a small bolt landed in between us. I never disrespected lightning again.
Posted by: The Bitterest Clinger at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (O3R/2)
that Bill is more interested in getting into Lis Whiel or Kimberley
Gilfoyle's pants than he was breaking Barack Obama's balls.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (O3R/2)
Well ... for Guillfoyle, I can understand it. Maybe he thinks acting like the San Fran mayor will help?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 09, 2012 08:42 PM (X3lox)
Ugh.
I remember when my socialist far-left sister LOVED Dennis Miller. When he went right, it drove her a tad insane. Now you can't even mention his name to her.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 08:44 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 09, 2012 08:44 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Sam I Am at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (AzwZn)
*****
That is such a fantastic ad. Very, very clever.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (piMMO)
My sister's coming to visit for a week later this month, and while she shares my taste in vodka, she also likes bourbon, and I wouldn't know a decent bourbon if it bit me. So if someone could suggest a good, reasonably priced bourbon, I'd really appreciate it.
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (9J4LJ)
Posted by: The Bitterest Clinger at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:40 PM (O3R/2)
In fairnesS to Bill O.,
I would be, too.
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:46 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: The Bitterest Clinger at May 09, 2012 08:46 PM (lpWVn)
month, and while she shares my taste in vodka, she also likes bourbon,
and I wouldn't know a decent bourbon if it bit me. So if someone could
suggest a good, reasonably priced bourbon, I'd really appreciate it.
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (9J4LJ)
Maker's Mark.
Posted by: Joe Theisman's Prostate at May 09, 2012 08:47 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Barney Frank's Plump, but Tight Ass at May 09, 2012 08:47 PM (YVbwx)
It doesn't have to be conservative, just funny.
Sign up Miller, MacDonald, and Lovitz and make it happen!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:48 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 08:48 PM (cjTjM)
Posted by: Sam I Am at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (AzwZn)
Sheppy thinks the right side of history is the backside, IYKWIM. AI-oh-SKTYD.
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:48 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at May 09, 2012 08:49 PM (YVbwx)
Posted by: The Bumper Sticker on My Work Van at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (GsBJY)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:35 PM (piMMO)
The general rule I learned is that if you can see it, it can kill you.
Lightning isn't well understood. I got knocked on my ass one day at the course. The pressure wave actually pushed me off my feet and it felt like someone punched me in the chest.
Fuck that shit!
Posted by: ErikW at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (565ym)
Maker's
Evan Williams
Russell
Buffalo Trace
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 08:48 PM (cjTjM)
OK, what's the best reasonably-priced blended scotch?
Posted by: Joe Theisman's Prostate at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (AxHOT)
Very proud of our President right now. Though I feel he could have worded things slightly differently. I offer this suggestion:
"Hell yes, I support gay marriage. If you feel differently, you're nothing but a homophobic asshole. Sorry, trying to use the bible to back up your ideas is about as effective as it was when the rednecks tried to use it to back up their ideas on slavery. "
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: nickless at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 08:51 PM (cjTjM)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 08:41 PM (TomZ9)
Consider the batteries and the highly toxic fumes they emit when on fire not to mention the corrosive electrolytes inside the batteries.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2012 08:52 PM (Klb0T)
"Hell yes, I support gay marriage. If you feel differently, you're
nothing but a homophobic asshole. Sorry, trying to use the bible to back
up your ideas is about as effective as it was when the rednecks tried
to use it to back up their ideas on slavery. "
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (96M6e)
Well if nothing else, it will help people clean up their 'friends' list.
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 08:53 PM (X6akg)
A true Conservative is interested in "bang for the buck"
Hey Vic!
You are going to hate this. I pay 27.95 for a 750 ml bottle of Buffalo Trace here in Sumter, SC.
My friend in California gets it for 24.95 at "Beverages and More".
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:53 PM (O3R/2)
When reached for comment, Fisker had this to say:
Last week, Fisker Automotive was made aware of a garage fire involving three vehicles, including a Karma sedan, that were parked at a newly-constructed residence in Sugar Land, Texas. There were no injuries.
There are conflicting reports and uncertainty surrounding this particular incident. The cause of the fire is not yet known and is being investigated.
We have not yet seen any written report form the Fort Bend fire department and believe that their investigation is continuing. As of now, multiple insurance investigators are involved, and we have not ruled out possible fraud or malicious intent. We are aware that fireworks were found in the garage in or around the vehicles. Also, an electrical panel located in the garage next to the vehicles is also being examined by the investigators as well as fire department officials. Based on initial observations and inspections, the Karma's lithium ion battery pack was not being charged at the time and is still intact and does not appear to have been a contributing factor in this incident.
Fisker will continue to participate fully in the investigation but will not be commenting further until all the facts are established.
Update
Editor's note: Autoweek received the following statement from the attorneys representing the Fisker Karma owner, Jeremy Gutierrez. The statement is reproduced below.
Houston, Texas, May 9, 2012 – On the afternoon of May 2, 2012, Mr. Jeremy Gutierrez's brand new Fisker Karma hybrid electric vehicle caught fire while parked in his garage, setting fire to his home while his wife, mother, and child were inside. Thanks to the fast action of Mr. Gutierrez, he was able to evacuate his family from the home moments before portions of the house were engulfed in flames, including his child's bedroom.
The Fort Bend County Fire Department immediately responded to the scene and as able to contain and extinguish the fire before total destruction of the Gutierrez's family home. The fire department recently completed their investigation and determined the origin of the fire was, in fact, Gutierrez's newly purchased Fisker Karma hybrid electric vehicle that he just took possession of two weeks earlier. Chief Investigator for the Fort Bend County Fire Marshal's Office Robert N. Baker has concluded that the fire was accidental in nature.
Since the date of this incident, Mr. Gutierrez has been fully cooperative with public safety officials, as well as insurance adjusters and the vehicle manufacturer's investigators. In fact, Mr. Gutierrez fully accommodated the precise and somewhat peculiar demands of Fisker Automotive, who sent their self-proclaimed “SWAT Team” of engineers and inspectors (that included their own forensic cause and origin investigator) to the Gutierrez home within 24 hours of the fire. They descended upon the Gutierrez home in alarming numbers and immediately demanded a 24-hour lock-down of his home, including the remains of the Fisker Karma vehicle. They also cordoned off portions of the Gutierrez home with non-transparent tarps to block the view from the public. Fisker even had access to eyewitnesses, who were interviewed by Fisker investigators and those investigators were shown video footage of the Fisker vehicle on fire before and other part of the garage. Mr. Gutierrez accommodated every request with the hope of have a full, fair and open inquiry into the cause of the Fisker vehicle fire that set his house ablaze and endangered his family.
Despite the fact public safety and law enforcement officials have determined Mr. Gutierrez's home and vehicles are not a crime scene, Fisker Automotive released a public statement on May 8, 2012 implying fraud or malicious intent were open questions. The family is stunned by this implication. The Gutierrez family has afforded every accommodation to Fisker and access to all evidence that public safety and law enforcement official examined. Fisker's statement is a grave disappointment, especially in light of the damages the family suffered and continues to suffer.
The Gutierrez family has suffered enough. They are temporarily displaced from their home, and have lost three vehicles. They value their privacy and wish to have this investigation completed immediately so they can return to their home. The law firm of Johnson, Trent, West Taylor, L.L.P., a Houston-based law firm, has and will continue to represent the Gutierrez family during this time. Please direct all inquires on the matter to our firm; do not contact Mr. or Mrs. Gutierrez directly. Attorneys for the family, Lori Hood or Rafe Taylor, can be reached at (713) 222-2323.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at May 09, 2012 08:53 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 08:54 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:54 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 08:55 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 08:55 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 08:55 PM (O3R/2)
Enjoy your hollow "victory" while you can, sodomites.
Posted by: Sam I Am at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (AzwZn)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (YlSwz)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 08:51 PM (cjTjM)
Scotch is one spirit that you get what you pay for, but for a blended product, you need not go nuts. I like Dewars, and for a surprisingly good value, give Cutty a shot.
Posted by: Ombudsman at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (AxHOT)
Hell even the coal plant that they get the electricity from to run those electric pieces of dog doo probably pumps more crap into the air in an hour than your suburban will for it's entire life.
When you add in the fire, the toxic fumes, the fact that almost nothing used to make the battery isn't dangerous hazmat type of materials.. lol.. Well, score one for the econuts I guess.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (KCvsd)
So if someone could suggest a good, reasonably priced bourbon, I'd really appreciate it.
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 08:45 PM (9J4LJ)
Woodford Reserve. Even Vic will back me up on that choice.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 08:57 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 08:57 PM (YlSwz)
You know, Tami, I actually like to keep him as a friend because I get a true glimpse into what radical libs are thinking, but I try not to engage him. He's the same guy who defended the Post Office a year or so by extolling what a great deal it is to be able to send a letter for 45 cents (or whatever the f*ck it is now), and how they beat the pants off FedEx and UPS. I couldn't even argue, he was so far into Tardville.
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:58 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Obamanson at May 09, 2012 08:58 PM (BVkEs)
"Hell yes, I support gay marriage.
'Sorry, trying to use the bible to back
up your ideas'
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (96M6e)
What gets me about this is they complaign about bibles or "church" but they demand a church with Bible ideas marry them?it's crazy!
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 08:58 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Admiral Ob+mao at May 09, 2012 08:59 PM (6Eh/9)
I think they prefer the term sodo-mittens. Not 100% certain on that one though. I'm pretty sure they don't like the term Arseridin-Americans. For some reason that didn't go over so well.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 08:59 PM (R5yLq)
Scotch
is one spirit that you get what you pay for, but for a blended product,
you need not go nuts. I like Dewars, and for a surprisingly good value,
give Cutty a shot.
Posted by: Ombudsman at May 09, 2012 08:56 PM (AxHOT)And neat, please. Or if you must, rocks and a splash. After all, we are not barbarians.
Posted by: Ombudsman at May 09, 2012 08:59 PM (AxHOT)
“When I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” said Obama.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 09, 2012 09:00 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: 1/32nd Breed Warren at May 09, 2012 09:00 PM (/9E6Z)
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 09:00 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 09:00 PM (KCvsd)
Umm ya. Maybe you could go over that middle part again? Do you have charts or something? I mean you are trying to explain this to liberals.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:00 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 09:01 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 08:58 PM (96M6e)
We are bombarded with what radical libs are thinking on a daily basis without having it appear on our FB feed.
You're a better person than I am. He'd be gone from my list so fast.....
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 09:01 PM (X6akg)
I drank that crap until one day I got some where the plastic taste from the "bottle" had leeched into the whiskey.
I spring for the extra two bucks and drink Evan Williams now -- glass, baby, glass!
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:02 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 09:02 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:02 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 09:02 PM (YlSwz)
Yup.. and we are the morons. Of course we have a term for them too - I like to call them "dipshits".
Seems appropriate somehow.. lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:03 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: nickless at May 09, 2012 08:50 PM (MMC8r)
It sure as hell was related to the batteries and/or wiring system.
I'll bet that the car is an over-engineered SNAFU.
Posted by: ErikW at May 09, 2012 09:03 PM (565ym)
Posted by: torabora at May 09, 2012 09:03 PM (6Eh/9)
***
Yes. I was about too go ape-shit when I heard him say that.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:04 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:04 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 09:05 PM (YlSwz)
Gutsy Call, Mister President! Gutsy Call!
And you only had to be dragged kicking and screaming to make it, after Biden put you in an untenable position to continue to bullshit about it.
This should earn you a New York Times Profile in Courage Award, Sir!
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 09, 2012 09:06 PM (niZvt)
What's the medical reason I can drink sour mash whiskey until I fall over, and feel just fine the next morning, but if I drink 1 shot of Scotch, I get a headache for 2 days?
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (Qxe/p)
Thanks again -- I knew I could count on y'all for that sort of advice!
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (9J4LJ)
Posted by: torabora at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (6Eh/9)
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (9J4LJ)
Actually, don't know if that's a good or bad thing
Posted by: Ombudsman at May 09, 2012 09:08 PM (AxHOT)
Isn't there a Nobel Pirze for doing jack shit? Oh wait, he already has one. Nevermind.. carry on
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:08 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Fox 2! at May 09, 2012 09:08 PM (RJOgX)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 09, 2012 09:09 PM (E1JyF)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:09 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 09, 2012 09:09 PM (YlSwz)
Posted by: Empire1 at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (9J4LJ)
Another word of advice: If you're looking for "smooth", stick with Tennessee whiskey. Kentucky has more of a "bite". It's whatever you're in the mood for. Tennessee includes Jack Daniels, but it's more expensive.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:10 PM (Qxe/p)
I hear ya. I can drink good rum till I'm plastered with no ill effect. Three beers of the wrong type and I'm hungover till noon. Unfortunately, I've always been easily hungover, and it's only getting worse with advancing age.
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:10 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 09:11 PM (KCvsd)
167 @151 Blantons
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2012 09:02 PM (9eDbm)
No argument there -- it's my favorite. But it's expensive and the request was for "reasonably priced."
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (7+pP9)
#173 yep I spewed hard when I heard Admiral SCOAMF say that today. What an ass.
Posted by: torabora at May 09, 2012 09:07 PM (6Eh/9)
Is there a, ummmm, problem?
Posted by: EMPEROR TEH WON at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (GsBJY)
Ahem. It's Laphroaig, you Philistine. Verrrrrry peaty. I like it.
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (96M6e)
I know what you mean. Sadly not much point in arguing with them at all, you just can't reason with unreasonable people.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2012 09:13 PM (UOM48)
over, and feel just fine the next morning, but if I drink 1 shot of
Scotch, I get a headache for 2 days?
****
I'm the opposite, if I drink anything other than scotch I feel awful.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:15 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bo the dog and his red dog dick at May 09, 2012 09:15 PM (s72/N)
Not much of a drinker myself but I rather enjoyed Eldorado 12 year.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:16 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Galt at May 09, 2012 09:16 PM (C0Hga)
Posted by: mugiwara at May 09, 2012 09:17 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:17 PM (5H6zj)
Tequila's my bete noire. My insides are probably racist.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 09, 2012 09:17 PM (s9VTj)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 09:11 PM (KCvsd)
No allergies that I'm aware of. I don't know what Celiac disease is, and I limit my hard alcohol to sour mash whiskey, because I simply don't like the taste of Canadian, etc. Rum is OK -- even the cheap stuff. I dislike Tequila.
I can't drink wine since I developed acid reflux about a dozen years ago. Reflux is gone, but wine still makes my stomach hurt.
That nasty episode also disallows me from eating salmon -- doc told me there's an oil in salmon that does that to people.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:18 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 09:18 PM (Gk3SS)
*****
I hit the tequila wall at 28 and now, I can have one margarita, and that's it, or I'll feel awful.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:19 PM (piMMO)
As long as the stompy boots stay on, it's all good.
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:19 PM (96M6e)
She was a Methodist. He was Catholic.
I pray for them both. I cried when he died. My brothers thought that I was a "rock" when she died (She didn't cry when he died. I didn't cry when she died)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:20 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 09:20 PM (Gk3SS)
Really the most user friendly of the good Bourbon.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2012 09:21 PM (cVW2x)
The only Tequila I really liked was so expensive I might as well have been drinking something else, so I did.. lol
Though as mixed drinks go a personal favorite of mine was called a Southern Sunrise. Good stuff.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:21 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 09:18 PM (Gk3SS)
sure but then you might go into loco land and start sobbing in despair.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:21 PM (TomZ9)
****
Tequila makes you call up ex-boyfriends at 2 in the morning.
Crying.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (X6akg)
Let me know if your planning the trip, I'll put some burgers on for you.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:19 PM (piMMO)
I hear you.
After 28 tequilas, I hit walls too.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 09, 2012 09:18 PM (Gk3SS)
I told her put an extra later on,
I know what happens when she drinks Patron,
She's missing half the clothes she's bought,
Yeah tequila makes her clothes off.
Posted by: ErikW at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (565ym)
I can tolerate tequila as one incredient to a long Island iced tea. But the stuff comes from mexico, and I've been to mexico, and you don't want to ingest anything from mexico. The worm in the tequila was a mistake, they played it off as being on purpose. That last part might be made up.
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:23 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: dagny at May 09, 2012 09:23 PM (JoL4S)
192 And at the risk of hijacking the thread from bourbon to rum, I'm open to suggestions in the $25-$40 range, though I've tried many of them out there. My current favorite is Pyrat. Liquid friggin gold.
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:12 PM (96M6e)
I haven't tried it but I've tried just about everything else. I've settled on Goslings, $16 plus change for a bottle. The rum of the British Navy, what grog was made from for centuries. Rum, buggery and the lash. One out of three ain't bad.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 09:23 PM (7+pP9)
Back in the mid 90's.
I loved pot. I was the oldest of my friends to quit. Harmless really.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:24 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:25 PM (96M6e)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (R5yLmmm
i have heard that you cook really well. yumm
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:25 PM (TomZ9)
You won't find a worm in Tequila, though you will find it fairly frequently in some of the cheap local mescales. They use the agave plant, and the worm is actually a larval form of a moth. The better distillers will toss any agave that is infested, the small operations that make mescale, we'll they will pretty much use anything they can get their hands on.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:25 PM (R5yLq)
....and your missing half the money you brought!
Posted by: Galt at May 09, 2012 09:25 PM (C0Hga)
Posted by: dagny at May 09, 2012 09:23 PM (JoL4S)
I called my daughter a "wine snob".
She said "What? I am not a wine snob."
I said "do you know the difference between a Pinot and Merlot?"
She said "of course."
I rested my case.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:26 PM (Qxe/p)
I'm with you Dagny. Also, it gives me migraines about 5 min after I start drinking it.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2012 09:26 PM (cVW2x)
Posted by: ErikW at May 09, 2012 09:26 PM (565ym)
Do what I can, though I think Hummingbird sometimes exaggerates a tad. For burgers I usually like to marinade them and then cook them on the grill.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:27 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:27 PM (O3R/2)
Crying.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:22 PM (piMMO)
heh, I totally understand that!
but i called my sister, poor sister , one hour of her hearing me cry about anything ever that went wrong in lifegah. never.again. (although she laughed it was so absurd)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:28 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:28 PM (96M6e)
Did the jury award you with a few days of sleeping on the couch by chance? Lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:28 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:28 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:29 PM (TomZ9)
****
I like some white wines but I've ever really cared much for it. For someone reason it metabolizes differently than liquor and makes me very drunk, very fast, and then I feel like shit the next day.
Double that if it's red wine.
I was at a great restaurant a couple of years ago and the waitress wanted to recommend a wine to us. She poured a glass and with the first taste I detected pineapple. I told her that I did not like it and to bring me a certain Riesling instead. She then responded with, "But this is Linda Cunningham's favorite!"
I responded, "Well good for her. Then there will be more available to her when she requests it. Now bring what I asked for."
(Linda Cunningham is a big time interior designer here. Like I give two shits what wine she drinks!)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:29 PM (piMMO)
Right now Maker's neat is my go to at the bar. I try to avoid beer and wine since they'll leave me with a nasty hangover.
Posted by: Alex at May 09, 2012 09:30 PM (EnhSM)
Posted by: robtr at May 09, 2012 09:30 PM (MtwBb)
You won't find a worm in Tequila, though you will find it fairly frequently in some of the cheap local mescales. They use the agave plant, and the worm is actually a larval form of a moth. The better distillers will toss any agave that is infested, the small operations that make mescale, we'll they will pretty much use anything they can get their hands on.Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:25 PM (R5yLq) -----Maybe it was mescale, I haven't been to Tijuana in about 25 years. Back in the day it was a hole, and I assume it still is. Just before I left San Diego - Tijuana was running tourist commercials showing how they were fixing the town up and one of the scenes was a guy with a hammer and chisel, chiseling up a road. The funny part was, that was HOW they were doing it in real life.
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:26 PM (Qxe/p)
okay - in fairness, I don't think it is not "wine snobbery" to know the difference between types of red wines and types of white wines.
now IMO if you can taste the difference between a French Merlot and a California Merlot, you just might be a wine snob
Posted by: chemjeff at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (7FadD)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:28 PM (R5yLq)
Nah, that was my daughter.
My wife judges wine quality by what the label looks like.
There's "old world" wine, "hippie wine", "gen-x wine", etc.
I do enjoy a good glass of Boone's Farm Wild Mountain Grape, though.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (O3R/2)
Lol..I don't get accused of that too often. It's true, I love to cook. I've got a few recipes I've put together over the years and I'm always on the lookout for more.
But I think the thing that Hummingbird doesn't take into account is that any food you don't have to cook yourself always tastes 10x better.. lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (vJ9tV)
FYI. i am drinking Sauza white at this moment.
and the cat is prying documnents off of the cork board....
Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 09, 2012 09:32 PM (C0Hga)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:32 PM (TomZ9)
When I did drink it was rarely if ever wine, though I'm thinking of maybe taking up social drinking again so I might give it a shot.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:33 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:33 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 09, 2012 09:33 PM (7FadD)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:33 PM (O3R/2)
into account is that any food you don't have to cook yourself always
tastes 10x better.. lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:31 PM (R5yLq)
that part is so true. I have decided after the last child leaves i will not cook for a year, just eat out or eat a tuna sammich or something.i'm srsly sick of it.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:34 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:34 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:34 PM (5H6zj)
Lol.. reminds me of that old Irish Rovers tune:
I saw someone under my kitchen table
Talking to my old tom cat
They were talking about hockey
The cat was talking back
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:34 PM (R5yLq)
Wow, that's kinda sad...I know $200 will get you 5 biggies from dogfish, some Barbancourt, some woodford, some bulldog gin, a case of vouvray....its only a problem when I don't drink.
Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 09, 2012 09:35 PM (I/cLr)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:35 PM (TomZ9)
I am drinking Barcardi Light with diet Sprite because I am hoping that the rash on my upper lip is caused by diet coke.
Posted by: Jack at May 09, 2012 09:35 PM (zKFOT)
Have you tried Sauvignon Blancs? They tend to be drier, if you choose carefully.
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (5H6zj)
For me that's been one of the best parts of having people around on a regular basis again - cooking is fun, but cooking for yourself just sucks. Lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (TomZ9)
We did bypass surgery recently on a "medicinal marijuana"smoker. Her lungs looked horrible, all black. The surgeon I was working with said pot smokers have the worst looking lungs of all his patients.
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (vJ9tV)
Want to go out? Do it. Want to get take out? do it. Feel like fasting? Do it. When the youngest moves out, you are truly free.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: S Daniel at May 09, 2012 09:37 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:37 PM (UpwlP)
Love those and Pinot Grigio is tasty too!
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:37 PM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 09, 2012 09:39 PM (I/cLr)
i'm sick of worrying about amounts , portions , meeting everyone's taste needs, if everyone is sufficiently suffoncified..
just,hate,it.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:39 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: jakeman at May 09, 2012 09:39 PM (96M6e)
wine. It's not my thing. Fortunately, that's less of an issue here in
Utah! ;-)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:34 PM (5H6z
Oh, those silly Mormons
Posted by: Ombudsman at May 09, 2012 09:39 PM (AxHOT)
Got any stats on cigar smokers? Thinking of taking up that habit again for stress related problems
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:36 PM (3yCFy)
Sulfites! That's what I meant @212 but typed phosphates....for some inexplicable reason.
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (X6akg)
Where's Steevo? He can add to the banter withtalk of brewski brewing...
Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (C0Hga)
While it certainly amplifies the effect, it cannot be good.
I do wonder, however, if the pot smokers were also tobacco smokers.
11 or 12 tokes of highly strong pot cannot do the damage of a pack of smokes.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: ErikW at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (565ym)
Have you tried vinho verde (young Portugese 'green' wine)? Really fun, especially on a hot day with cheese and cured meets to nibble.
Cheap, too!
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:41 PM (5H6zj)
i'm sick of worrying about amounts , portions , meeting everyone's taste needs, if everyone is sufficiently suffoncified..
just,hate,it.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:39 PM (TomZ9)
Holy crap willow! A dozen people every day!? Geez...no wonder you're sick of it. I'd get in my car and keep driving.
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 09:41 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: derit at May 09, 2012 09:42 PM (FQlFL)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:42 PM (3yCFy)
Not much of a drinker myself but I rather enjoyed Eldorado 12 year.
Yeah some guy in the Keys who's a rum judge recommended that. Not bad at all. Nice over a few cubes.
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 09:42 PM (cjTjM)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 09, 2012 09:42 PM (UTq/I)
*****
About twelve years ago my galfriends and I were on our way to an early tailgate party prior to the Jags game and realized we hadn't picked up any booze. Well, you couldn't purchase liquor here until noon so we were going to pick up some wine coolers but the only store nearby didn't sell them. They did, however, sell Boones Farm. So, we giggled like schoolgirls as we purchased Tickle Pink, Strawberry Hill, and Green Apple. When we arrived at the tailgate party we were mercilessly mocked yet, by the time we left for the game, all three bottles were empty.
heh.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:42 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:43 PM (UpwlP)
Incorrect. Sulfites are involved in sterilization.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 09, 2012 09:43 PM (C0Hga)
just,hate,it.
I hear you. My own menu choices were pretty limited when I was still married and we had all 3 kids at home. I would often end up fixing two meals because I could only get about half of them to eat one thing and half to eat the other on any given night. Fortunately with this crew it's pretty much a "if you don't want to eat it you know where the nearest McDonalds is" sort of affair.. lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:43 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:44 PM (3yCFy)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 09, 2012 09:43 PM (C0Hga)
I thought they were added as a preservative, no?
Posted by: Tami at May 09, 2012 09:44 PM (X6akg)
Well hell, if they are cheap enough maybe we can take up some donations and hook Sandra Fluke up!
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:44 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:40 PM (O3R/2)
I did some "modern" pot for medical purposes 5 years ago (chemotherapy). Got it "black market", of course.
I'd not smoked any since about 1975. I cannot imagine a dozen tokes of what I got 5 years ago. I had no clue what the f*ck was going on after about 4 tokes.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:45 PM (Qxe/p)
you don't want to eat it you know where the nearest McDonalds is" sort
of affair.. lol
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:43 PM (R5yLq)
i will so be that, just another year or so. hope hope.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:45 PM (TomZ9)
Oh, this has turned into a booze thread? My general rule is that if it is an intoxicating liquid, I'll probably drink it.
Posted by: cm9000 at May 09, 2012 09:45 PM (MwTP4)
Excellent white wine: Pouilly-Fuissé.
Not sweet, but not too dry.
A good bottle, however, will set you back $20.00. We drink it with holiday feasts.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 09:46 PM (7+pP9)
well, sure, except I tend to stay away from intoxicating liquids that are flammable
Posted by: chemjeff at May 09, 2012 09:46 PM (7FadD)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:46 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 09:47 PM (cjTjM)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:47 PM (O3R/2)
Hardest thing for me to adjust to was the quiet. After having kids underfoot for all that time to suddenly go to a house with just me in it.. took some getting used to. I had to leave the TV on in the bedroom for about the first 6 months or so just so I could sleep.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:48 PM (R5yLq)
----
Yeah, we never had any choices. Even our morning cereal boxes were regulated by my dad. (Yeah, he has issues.)
The family dog was our best option for dealing with some of the really bad meals, like "cube" steak (ugh!).
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:48 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:44 PM (3yCFy)
Wormholes.
Posted by: Stephen Hawking at May 09, 2012 09:49 PM (C0Hga)
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:49 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 09, 2012 09:49 PM (j+Izh)
I can drive just fine while stoned.
Better for the kidneys and liver too.
Posted by: Jimbo the Stoner from the 70s at May 09, 2012 09:49 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:50 PM (5H6zj)
Three girls here - it was often enough of a struggle just to get them too eat, decided not to press my luck.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:50 PM (R5yLq)
The THC in pot has some really nasty side affects too, one of the more benign ones is gynecomastia--man boobs. Also increases testicular cancer rate.
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:50 PM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: Jimbo the Stoner from the 70s at May 09, 2012 09:52 PM (O3R/2)
i want to sleep in just one damn'd day. you know that feeling?
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:52 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Cicero Kid, home vintner at May 09, 2012 09:52 PM (C0Hga)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:50 PM (5H6zj)
I did it for the psychological effects.
BCG treatments for bladder cancer (now 100% gone, thanks)
I was pissing pure blood after the treatments -- no physical pain, but the sight made me puke. Literally.
The dope made my give-a-shit meter drop back to zero.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:52 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:53 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 09, 2012 09:53 PM (i0App)
She also once told me she'd rather die than go on welfare. She wasn't much interested in politics, but I think that declaration helped to make me into a conservative years later.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 09:53 PM (3yCFy)
What a coincidence! Our family dogs were our best options for dealing with really bad meals too! And the small ones cook up pretty quick too!
Posted by: Lolo and SCOAMF Sotero at May 09, 2012 09:54 PM (vJ9tV)
Well, I'm so glad you are better.
I actually have no problem with medical marijuana. I wish it wasn't being (a)bused as a loophole, because it does really seem to give relief to some people.
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:54 PM (5H6zj)
OK, I stepped into that one! lol
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:54 PM (5H6zj)
Man boobs? For most potheads, those are the only boobs they are ever going to feel. Think Garth.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:55 PM (O3R/2)
Mr. Panos explains the Greek debt crisis. Not safe for Germans
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at May 09, 2012 09:55 PM (81qu8)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 09:55 PM (TomZ9)
Oh, poor willow!
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:56 PM (5H6zj)
The family dog was our best option for dealing with some of the really bad meals, like "cube" steak (ugh!).Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:48 PM (5H6zj) -------My last straw was when the special orders from the back seat started getting so meticulously refined right down to the kind of onios on the burger (McDonalds has two kinds of onions) that I finally said nope, you're getting number 1's, and you'll like it. When you start buying it you'll be free to choose.
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 09:56 PM (UpwlP)
Cube steak is good stuff - I marinade mine for a few hours in italian dressing and then fry it.
The other way to prepare cube steak is in a pan with tomato sauce, basil, oregano, a little garlic. Once the meat is cooked throw in the sauce, your fixins, then once it's cooked in add some paremesian and maybe a little mozerella over the top. Good stuff.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at May 09, 2012 09:56 PM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 09:57 PM (O3R/2)
The family dog was our best option for dealing with some of the really bad meals, like "cube" steak (ugh!).
In the old days you could strikethrough the c in cube and put in a t.
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 09, 2012 09:57 PM (cjTjM)
I actually have no problem with medical marijuana. I wish it wasn't being (a)bused as a loophole, because it does really seem to give relief to some people.
Posted by: Y-not is not drinking tonight at May 09, 2012 09:54 PM (5H6zj)
Thanks! As a matter of fact, I got my yearly checkup today, and related the whole story to my urologist. I told him I voted in favor of medical marijuana because of that, but now I sort of regretted it because of the abuse.
I wish they'd let actual surgeons make the decision.
But, he's not allowed to dispense it. MM people are "pharmacists".
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 09:58 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 09:58 PM (vJ9tV)
****
You still can, you just have to use the [ marks.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2012 09:59 PM (piMMO)
Hahahahaha!!!
Posted by: fluffy at May 09, 2012 09:59 PM (O6q63)
Are sulphates the chemicals that stain your tongue black if you drink a lot of Thunderbird or other cheap wines?
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 09, 2012 10:00 PM (3yCFy)
amen, the poor dog got stuck with everything from peas to icky over cooked roast, that should have been a door stop.
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 10:00 PM (TomZ9)
I like it too--for chicken fried steak or I marinate it in a balsamic/maple syrup marinade. Yummy!
Posted by: runningrn at May 09, 2012 10:01 PM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 10:01 PM (KCvsd)
Thunderbird is not a cheap wine. You're thinking of Mad Dog.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 09, 2012 10:01 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: willow at May 09, 2012 10:02 PM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 10:02 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 09, 2012 10:02 PM (KCvsd)
Those were the good old days.
Posted by: fluffy at May 09, 2012 10:02 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 09, 2012 10:02 PM (j+Izh)
I have told you folks stuff that I have told no one else. Harmless aren't you?
It's been great. The Good Lord forgives me. I forgive you too.
If Obama wins in Nov, it is because we (America) must suffer more. It's OK. Consider it a blessing. Seriously.
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 10:04 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 09, 2012 09:53 PM (i0App)
I could think of some things that would make it more awesome, ( not necessarily involving flames, explosions and horrific crashes) but my fear of the ban-hammer is too great.
Posted by: cm9000 at May 09, 2012 10:06 PM (MwTP4)
To all you smoke or condone smoking pot:
Good thing for you EoJ isn't here.
He'd be telling you you're all full of shit weaklings, etc. who are shiftless at work and ruining your employer lord's profit margin.
I shit you not -- he simply cannot conceive their is any possible benefit from its consumption and believes it serves only as a drain on productivity and the economy.
Some semingly sane people believe strongly in some really wacky ideas.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 10:06 PM (7+pP9)
You told the whole fucking internet, My Man.
Posted by: fluffy at May 09, 2012 10:08 PM (O6q63)
I shit you not -- he simply cannot conceive their is any possible benefit from its consumption and believes it serves only as a drain on productivity and the economy.
Some semingly sane people believe strongly in some really wacky ideas.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at May 09, 2012 10:06 PM (7+pP9) -----Thats barely half true!
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 10:13 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 09, 2012 10:14 PM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Jimbo at May 09, 2012 10:16 PM (O3R/2)
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