Top Headline Comments 4-27-12

FRIDAY!!

A judge in Florida has blocked Gov. Scott's order that state workers get drug tested. The judge found that there was no evidence of a drug problem at state agencies and so no basis for the testing.

Lava spirals spotted on Mars, and they're much larger than lava spirals here on Earth. I'm assuming that gravity plays a role.

At least three bombs have gone off in eastern Ukrainian city Dnipropetrovsk. Twitter reports say there's been a fourth bomb. At least 15 are injured.

Judge rejects request to order Obama to release the Osama bin Laden photos. The CIA, which is apparently in possession of the photos (DOD said it didn't have them), says it cannot release them for reasons of national security. The judge won't second-guess the CIA.

The only legal bright spots yesterday were a judge in Illinois, who found the state's tax on internet sales to be unconstitutional and preempted by federal law. Also, the Army judge overseeing the Bradley Manning court martial refused to throw out the charge of aiding the enemy.

BONUS FRIDAY MUSIC VIDEO:

9 hours and then the weekend. It's all about tonight.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:50 AM



Comments

1 Good Morning Morons. Today is FRIDAY March 27, 2012. On this day in 1861 Abraham, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and began jailing reporters, editors, and the entire MD legislature without charges. Some stayed in jail for as long as 2 years.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:51 AM (YdQQY)

2 Judge denies FOI request to reveal Bin Laden photos.

http://is.gd/Sc5XWu

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:51 AM (YdQQY)

3 Illegal in MA kills someone in hit and run and will be deported before going to trial. Yep, doing those jobs Americans refuse to do. But hey, MA makes it easy on illegals so they are getting what they asked for.

http://is.gd/owO2W6

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:51 AM (YdQQY)

4 Senate Republicans pass Violence Against Women Act - again. The original bill was declared unconstitutional by SCOTUS in 2000. So they passed another one in 2005. Now passing yet another one. This is an area that congress has zero authority to legislate in, but like Obama, Congress really doesn't give a shit for the Constitution either. Maybe that is why Obama is getting a free pass.

http://is.gd/yD22O9

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:52 AM (YdQQY)

5 House to pass bill to fund Obama student loan subsidy by defunding Obamacare. Senate commies say no. As I said the other day when the Senate threw this POS out there, pure political Kabuki.

http://is.gd/IYmJFN

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:52 AM (YdQQY)

6 Boner says Rubio Dream Act will not pass the House.

http://is.gd/3jD2qp

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:52 AM (YdQQY)

7 Fascists at labor department withdraw child chore rule after massive protest. I never did get my question asked which was how do they have the authority to issue this crap via executive fiat anyway. Farms were specifically exempted by the original labor laws. But that is more so let it be written, so let it be done by this lawless admin.

http://is.gd/oG4fm5

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

8 Senate RINOs (in picture) join forces with Dems to throw $11B in the Post Office hole without fixing the underlying problems. It now goes to the House where I hope saner heads will prevail (but I am not holding my breath).

http://is.gd/AjQsA3

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

9 LOL, Issa says this is the most corrupt administration in history. About time someone grew a pair.

http://is.gd/6noCJq

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

10 Insanity with federal laws. Huge buzzard has decided to camp out in neighborhood yard. Parents are worried about small children but can not do a damn thing about the bird because of federal law. But stupid people should have kept their mouth shut and remembered the law of unintended consequences; shoot, shovel, and shutup.

Besides that, when did buzzards become "migratory birds"?

http://is.gd/WsChOk

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:54 AM (YdQQY)

11 Public employee unions running wild.

http://is.gd/k9QKQK

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:55 AM (YdQQY)

12 Commemorative coin racket used to get around earmark ban. These assholes still have not got the message.

http://is.gd/BbzuAN


And that's it for news

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:55 AM (YdQQY)

13 On that FL judge thing, I fail to see what grounds he had for killing the drug testing of employees.

Just more activist judge BS.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

14 A cold rainy morning in Maine.

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 06:57 AM (0ywCl)

15 The question isn't whether or not FL had grounds for the order, that is not supposed to be the concern of the courts. The question is whether or not FL has the authority to order its own employees be drug tested as a condition of employment. And that they do have.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

16 Hey Vic, speaking of the Post Office...

I read an article a couple of weeks ago about how the Feds are going to stop mailing checks for SS, Welfare, etc. Instead they will send out debit cards or something.

Anyhow, the article pointed out that the hardest hit will be the P.O., since it won't be handeling millions of pieces of mail from the Feds.

I thought that was hilarious...

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 07:00 AM (KB0hv)

17 Morning all.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 07:03 AM (i6RpT)

18 Instead they will send out debit cards or something.



Wouldn't they still have to send them via the post office?


Morning all!

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2012 07:03 AM (X6akg)

19 What difference does it make that they will be mailing debit cards instead of checks?


Anyway, I saw something on that on TV where black activists were complaining that poor people w/o bank accounts would not be able to get their money or would have to pay "ATM" fees. The first thing I thought of ws how are they cashing the paper checks now?


Check cashing shops that charge an exorbitant fee is how.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:04 AM (YdQQY)

20 When do we read about postal workers paid to do crosswords so there are no layoffs?

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 07:04 AM (0ywCl)

21 Fox is covering the "crucify" guy from the EPA on Fox.

Old news except for people who haven't seen it on the internet.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:05 AM (GoIUi)

22 The biggest problem the post office has is not excessive workers. It is excessive numbers of branch offices to satisfy local politicians. And the Senate bill prohibits them from closing these offices.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)

23 The article stated that the cards are mailed out, but I guess you get your monthly allotment through an ATM or something. So the cards are not mailed out monthly, which reduces the mailings by millions.

Dang, I should have copied that article.

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 07:07 AM (KB0hv)

24 I would say that the "crucify" guy should be fired, but in reality the EPA should be fired. It is no longer possible to fix it in place.


The entire corrupt organization needs to be eliminated and start over from scratch. This time w/o a lying shit weasel appointed by Nixon to turn it into a political cause.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:09 AM (YdQQY)

25 >>What difference does it make that they will be mailing debit cards instead of checks?

Food stamps and unemployment, they mail you the debit card once if you apply online or over the phone, then just add money to the account every month, until you "lose" (read: sell) it and request another one.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 07:09 AM (hO8IJ)

26 If the offices are closed, there will be plenty of excess workers. Doing crosswords.

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 07:09 AM (0ywCl)

27 >>The biggest problem the post office has is not excessive workers. It is
excessive numbers of branch offices to satisfy local politicians.

Bigger problem than branch offices: workers getting two, three times the going rate for the work they do, when benefits and pension are included. Same problem public schools in WI were having before Scott Walker reformed the benefits.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 07:11 AM (hO8IJ)

28 Fox is covering the "crucify" guy from the EPA on Fox.

Old news except for people who haven't seen it on the internet.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:05 AM (GoIUi)

It might be a few days old, but it is instructive of what obama and his commie crowd would do if elected to a second term. We have to keep pounding this message home

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 07:14 AM (i6RpT)

29 #20 I depend on the Post Office for my business, since I have an eBay store (antiques and collectibles). My local post office (suburban city outside Indy) is pretty good. Carrier picks up packages here from scheduling the night before, and when I have difficulty with something I really do get help from the people at the post office.

However, if I go to the next post office north of me it's like I am in the world of cartoon government workers. Long lines, rudeness, inefficient operations.

The guy at the UPS store goes nuts trying to deal with some of the stuff the post office does. We were talking the other day and he said he didn't understand why they didn't have a packing service, where people could bring something in and for a fee the post office would pack it in a box for them prior to shipping. The UPS store makes a lot of money from doing that.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:14 AM (GoIUi)

30 Bigger problem than branch offices: workers getting two, three times the
going rate for the work they do, when benefits and pension are
included. Same problem public schools in WI were having before Scott
Walker reformed the benefits.




I don't think postal employees get those big retirement plans like some gov workers do. And wages are excessive either. The problem really is too many useless local offices. They want to close 3,700 offices which means there is probably 5,000 that need closing but the Senate plan doesn't let them close ANY.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)

31 Can private sector do all that the USPS does? And better?

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 07:17 AM (0ywCl)

32 "The guy at the UPS store goes nuts trying to deal with some of the stuff the post office does. We were talking the other day and he said he didn't understand why they didn't have a packing service, where people could bring something in and for a fee the post office would pack it in a box for them prior to shipping. The UPS store makes a lot of money from doing that. "
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Unions probably prevent them from doing anything 'extra'...wouldn't want the poor dears to strain themselves.

Posted by: CanaDave at April 27, 2012 07:17 AM (BXa5T)

33 #28 I agree. I should have been more detailed in my thoughts.

On the topic covered yesterday about the press turning on Obama, I saw two local stories about people living in homeless shelters and under bridges who were middle class families who lost everything including their homes due to the economy.

Sort of undercuts the "happy days are here again" line the administration is pushing.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:18 AM (GoIUi)

34 Also, I am going to put my 2 cents in about Romney's campaign style here.

I suggest everyone study the Reagan campaign. He did not call Carter evil nor did he talk about what a jerk he was. He just genially criticized policies and would chuckle when Carter attacked him.

Michelle Malkin needs to get a grip.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:21 AM (GoIUi)

35 So the Florida drug test thing is BEFORE being hired? The article is not clear. Seems to me everybody else drug tests potential employees, but my first reaction was, if they are trying to test people who they already hired, then no, I don't think you ought to be able to do that without cause.

Drug testing is just one area where employers are weeding out potentially bad employees before hiring, and it's probably getting out of hand. Police checks are routine, credit checks are becoming so. Facebook scanning, and every other internet social media site is subject to employer scrutiny.

I'd prefer more privacy, not less.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:21 AM (Gc/Qi)

36 As for public workers in WI read that article I linked above about public employee unions. A woman was complaining in that article that she would no longer be able to retire at 47. No postal employee can retire at 47.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:21 AM (YdQQY)

37 Senate Republicans pass Violence Against Women Act - again.

The commie bastids put so much spin on naming these bills, they could achieve low earth orbit. I mean, who wants to vote against a bill with that name? Especially if you had any hopes of being re-elected.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 07:23 AM (phlKA)

38 Employers should be able to test for drugs. The accident rate for drug users and on the job drinking is huge compared to normal employees. Plus the liability to the company is huge.


And as I said, it doesn't matter anyway. The judge had no grounds at all for his ruling.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 07:23 AM (YdQQY)

39 It's Friday! Friday! Gonna go chow on chow today!

Posted by: Rebecca Black on Barky's ipod at April 27, 2012 07:24 AM (mxnUd)

40 Morning Joe in full Obama cheerleader mode today; Obama is unassailable on foreign policy because "he killed Osama."

Bullshit.

The US military killed Osama. Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming off the golf course to watch it, sitting sullenly in the corner while the adults spoke. With a Secret Service jacket over his golf shirt, to try and make him look somehow presidential.

This is what liberals say is "killing Osama?"

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 07:24 AM (niZvt)

41 I suggest everyone study the Reagan campaign. He did not call Carter
evil nor did he talk about what a jerk he was. He just genially
criticized policies and would chuckle when Carter attacked him.


Yep. The voters are buying the person as much as the policies (if not more). They want calm competence. Angry railing against the other guys doesn't convey that. It's fine to point out the problems with the other guy's policies, just do it in a way that projects confidence and control. Let the underlings handle the rough stuff.

Ike understood this.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2012 07:24 AM (YXmuI)

42
What difference does it make that they will be mailing debit cards instead of checks?

Instead of monthly checks you'll have a card mailed to you only once. Cash will then be credited to the card monthly.

It's already how most welfare payments are made. I've read of Wal-Marts that are monthly jammed with shoppers filling their carts, just waiting for the stroke of midnight when their accounts are credited.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 07:25 AM (7+pP9)

43 So when this change totally kicks in, it will be the Feds who cripple the Post Office.

Ohman, my Irony Needle just broke...

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 07:31 AM (KB0hv)

44 And if yesterday was Thorsday, that can only mean today is Frey's day.

What what better way to celebrate Freyday than to supersize them??

http://tinyurl.com/czjv9nm

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 07:32 AM (niZvt)

45 >>I don't think postal employees get those big retirement plans like some gov workers do.

They're paying out huge pensions now, and workers who started more than a few years ago...I can't remember when the last "reform" was...are scheduled to get them. 80% of their costs are labor.

Meanwhile, the PO I used to go to in MKE had three of those automated machines where you could weigh and ship a package, plus a stamp machine--and they ripped them all out, because customers preferred them over standing in line to get huffed at.

There's no post office in my ZIP code, which I think is ridiculous. If I need to mail a package, I can drive six miles to the county seat, six miles to the town to the south, six miles to the town to the north, or ten miles into the city (into a shitty neighborhood). Or I can drop by Meijer on the way home from work, where a Meijer employee weighs my package and takes my money. I assume there's a branch at the airport, three miles from my office, but I'd have to pay for parking. The branch two miles northwest of my office (five miles from my home) got closed last summer. The postmistress was nice; spent way too much time on lunch listening to her explain to stupid people why they can't mail oil and fireworks; she didn't get laid off, btw--she got transferred to the branch in the shitty neighborhood. No savings on labor by closing branches....

I'm just not seeing "too many places where patrons can hand over money" as the problem, sorry.


Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 07:33 AM (hO8IJ)

46 Does one need a photo ID to use that welfare card? Just askin.

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 07:33 AM (0ywCl)

47 #40 Breitbart had a story last night referencing a CIA memo in which the mission was set up with six degrees of separation from Obama, in case it went bad.

An admiral was the one who was in charge of calling the shots.

I was interested in how the memo from Panetta got out and why Time printed it. It definitely makes the procedure look like there was a great deal of concern for protecting Obama.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:34 AM (GoIUi)

48 What do Florida morons think of Governor Scott? I know of one that's disappointed in him considering he's a Tea Party choice, no? He wasn't exactly a profile in courage in the Saint Trayvon case by caving to Reparations M Us's Shakedown Jackson and Resist Profit We Much Sharpton by taking control away from the regular prosecutor and assigning Hang 'Em High Corey to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2012 07:36 AM (g8py2)

49 Completely OT, but I'm trying to remember and find a link or two to (and I searched, apparently I'm bad at it today) to what Kos said about those Americans that were killed in Iraq and had their bodies hung from a bridge...

Posted by: GMan at April 27, 2012 07:36 AM (sxq57)

50 Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 07:32 AM (niZvt)

Geez, the poor young lady can't lift her head up all the way.

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 07:37 AM (KB0hv)

51 #48 My only thought on that is that he is running a delay and defuse operation. The longer this has gone on the more that has come out.

I'm not in Florida so don't know the dynamics. However, rather than judging him against perfection, perhaps people should imagine how a democrat would have handled it, or that profile in courage Charlie Crist.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 07:38 AM (GoIUi)

52 >>Seems to me everybody else drug tests potential employees, but my first
reaction was, if they are trying to test people who they already hired,
then no, I don't think you ought to be able to do that without cause.

My last several jobs have had "drug testing at their whim" as a condition of employment.

Right to work equals slavery, you know.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 07:39 AM (hO8IJ)

53 The post office is having to deal with a shrinking customer base. The volume of mail they handle has been dropping 8-12% per year, with no end in sight. So either you find new services to sell or cut overhead.

They do have one thing going for them, they are listed as a service in the Constitution.But they are already 12 billion in debt, and this bill of course is offering up another 11 billion line of credit -- in other words, punt the problem until past the election. Oh, and there is no pay as you go offset for this either. Sigh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2012 07:39 AM (cHZB7)

54 They do have one thing going for them, they are listed as a service in the Constitution.

True, but the question in my mind is whether that means the government has to run it, or that it can simply ensure the service is available, for example by paying UPS to provide the service. It also doesn't mean we have to subsidize junk mail? Make them pay the true cost.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2012 07:44 AM (YXmuI)

55 What difference does it make that they will be mailing debit cards instead of checks?



Sorry, if someone else mentioned this. They will only have to mail the debit cards once. No more monthly mail outs through the post office thereby reducing post office traffic.

Posted by: no good deed at April 27, 2012 07:44 AM (mjR67)

56 Only 4 Alabama players went in the first round of the NFL draft. I thought for sure that there would be 5 and possibly 6. Teams that passed on Courtney Upshaw will regret it.

Good morning, morons.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 07:45 AM (NG097)

57 However, rather than judging him against perfection, perhaps people
should imagine how a democrat would have handled it, or that profile in
courage Charlie Crist.




Well, I think we know how either of those would've done things but I still don't think there's anything wrong with holding TP candidates to higher standards than Donks or Repukes. The moron that I was referring to in my earlier post had a laundry list of complaints about Scott which seemed to this outsider to be pretty disappointing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2012 07:46 AM (g8py2)

58 Lava spirals spotted on Mars, and they're much larger than lava spirals here on Earth. I'm assuming that gravity plays a role.

Yeah, Mars has had volcanoes much taller then here on Earth because of lower force of gravity. But it's a dead planet now, it's once molten core cold. No hot core means no magnetic field to protect atmosphere form solar radiation, so atmosphere and water got blown away. Used to have water all over the place.

As much as I like NASA and want them to continue R&D, any manned mission to Mars would just be a huge money sink. Let China or the Russians waste their money and lives on a worthless trip to a worthless planet.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 07:46 AM (phlKA)

59 This, I predict, will create a large outrage if it gets some exposure.

Illegals are racking up huge IRS refunds, mainly by claiming nieces and nephews back in Mexico that have never even been here. The whistleblower estimates the fraud adds up to billions of dollars:

"We're talking about a multi-billion dollar fraud scheme here that's taking place and no one is talking about it," he said.

The scheme involves illegal immigrants -- illegal immigrants who are filing tax returns.


http://tinyurl.com/6nmvx9b

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2012 07:47 AM (cHZB7)

60 I'm trying to remember and find a link or two to (and I searched,
apparently I'm bad at it today) to what Kos said about those Americans
that were killed in Iraq


http://minx.cc/?post=145726

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 07:47 AM (NG097)

61 52 -

Depends on what you do. If you handle heavy machinery, or have somebody's life otherwise at your peril, then yeah, the employer has a right to know you're not high as a kite on the job.

But pencil pushers and burger fryers and such? More privacy, not less. It really isn't too hard to oppressed/enslaved by employers.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:47 AM (Gc/Qi)

62 The Post Office is an archaic business. More and More and More people are doing everything online to the determent of the Post Office. In addition the Post Office HAS to service every shit house, out house, and hen house in the back waters of America no matter how much money it costs them. Throw the Unions and you have a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 07:49 AM (i6RpT)

63
Does one need a photo ID to use that welfare card? Just askin.

Posted by: Red in Maine at April 27, 2012 07:33 AM (0ywCl)


Nope. It's just like a debit card except you can't use it to buy stuff like ciggies, booze and lottery tickets. It makes it marginally more difficult to abuse than plain old food stamps which were easy to sell for cash.

When I first started drawing unemployment it was in the form of a state issued debit card.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 07:49 AM (7+pP9)

64 http://minx.cc/?post=145726

It's good to be reminded what kind of cocksucking rodents the other side is.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 07:49 AM (NG097)

65 Thanks toby928

Posted by: GMan at April 27, 2012 07:50 AM (sxq57)

66 But pencil pushers and burger fryers and such? More privacy, not less. It really isn't too hard to oppressed/enslaved by employers.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:47 AM (Gc/Qi)


Pencil pushers and burger fries on drugs still do things like drive up the cost of healthcare, miss work, and fuck things up.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 07:50 AM (i6RpT)

67 Gah, I hate popular music. I'd prefer Rebecca Black.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:50 AM (Gc/Qi)

68 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/17/272375/-Mercenaries-Screw-em-

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 07:51 AM (phlKA)

69 66 -

I don't care. I don't believe people need to give up their privacy just to save us money.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:52 AM (Gc/Qi)

70 I don't care. I don't believe people need to give up their privacy just to save us money.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 07:52 AM (Gc/Qi)

If your illegal drug use effects those who employ and pay your salary, causing possible injury to others, or effects the public good I believe you lose that right to privacy

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 07:54 AM (i6RpT)

71 The LA Slimes is reporting that Holder's seat is about to get a bit warmer:

WASHINGTON — Republican House leaders have drafted a proposed contempt of Congress citation against Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. in which they charge that he and his Justice Department have repeatedly "obstructed and slowed" the Capitol Hill investigation into the ATF's flawed Fast and Furious gun-tracking operation.

http://tinyurl.com/d4self7

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2012 07:54 AM (cHZB7)

72 And thanks Schrodinger's cat!

Posted by: GMan at April 27, 2012 07:54 AM (sxq57)

73 The Cowboys trading up for Claiborne was epic. All it cost them was a swap of 14 for 6, and a deep 2nd at 45. I can't believe Jones actually did something intelligent. It was the play of the day.

The Vikings nailed their draft too - Kalil and Harrison Smith in the 1st AND 10 picks left?? Damn ... gotta give props ...

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 27, 2012 07:54 AM (NW9IS)

74 >>It makes it marginally more difficult to abuse than plain old food stamps which were easy to sell for cash.

Except is doesn't. They sell they card and the PIN. And they do it on Facebook and Twitter, right out in front of God and everybody. https://twitter.com/#!/search/sell%20food%20stamps


Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 07:55 AM (hO8IJ)

75 Illegals are racking up huge IRS refunds, mainly by claiming nieces and
nephews back in Mexico that have never even been here. The whistleblower
estimates the fraud adds up to billions of dollars:




All the more reason why that BS "tax credit" for children needs to go away. You already get a "deduction" for children. As a matter of fact, eliminate ALL of those "tax credits" and reduce the rates.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:01 AM (YdQQY)

76 People who like bird-hatching cameras: The falcons in downtown Indy are about to hatch:

http://blogs.indystar.com/falconblog/

"Kinsey", the male, has 60 chicks over the past 19 years. Insert NBA joke here.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 27, 2012 08:01 AM (hO8IJ)

77 I don't think the drug testing was for pre-employment, I believe it was about random or required testing of all employees after employment. I worked for the State once and the pre-employment drug test was mandatory but they reserved the right to drug test at any time. In practice, they almost never did unless there was a reason to think an employee was high at work. The judge in Florida said that mandatory drug testing after employment was not called for unless there was a suspicion of use. He cited studies that showed that previous testing found only 4 people out of 3 or 4 thousand govt workers tested showing positive.

If I'm incorrect on this please enlighten me someone.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 27, 2012 08:01 AM (g1fN1)

78 They sell they card and the PIN.

Then the person who bought the card files a phony tax return claiming to have made 300k, gets a 100k refund credited to that card, cashes that out, then sells the card to someone else. When the IRS figures out they've been taken the trail is cold.

I have a feeling that if I opened up Websters and looked under 'sucker' my picture would be right there.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:02 AM (phlKA)

79 If I'm incorrect on this please enlighten me someone.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 27, 2012 08:01 AM (g1fN1)
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That sounds about right, but that isn't the purview of the courts to decide whether or not the test is needed. The supremes ruled long ago that employers could do random drug testing as a condition for employment. Evidently the ACLU went judge shopping here and the State will now have to take it to higher courts.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:05 AM (YdQQY)

80 But pencil pushers and burger fryers and such? More privacy, not less. It really isn't too hard to oppressed/enslaved by employers.

Employers don't do it because they want to. They do it because of liability.

I was going to say "out-of-control tort system," but then I got to thinking that if a pothead burger-flipper left some turkey patties out too long and a salmonella outbreak killed customers, which way would I vote if I was stuck on the jury?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 27, 2012 08:05 AM (p7SSh)

81 13 On that FL judge thing, I fail to see what grounds he had for killing the drug testing of employees.

Just more activist judge BS.
Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)



So how long before private companies begin getting sued for random drug testing?

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at April 27, 2012 08:07 AM (fYOZx)

82 BTW, part of any drug testing program is also alcohol testing which IS a problem at a lot of places.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:07 AM (YdQQY)

83 Thanks Vic. I remember all the hubbub when the whole testing thing started in before times but could not remember how they ruled on it.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 27, 2012 08:07 AM (g1fN1)

84 A little Milwaukee voter fraud, with an Occupooper involved perhaps:

MILWAUKEE- The Milwaukee County district attorney's office is investigating claims that three men broke the law last year when they registered and voted in the county.

Voter registration applications from three men who listed the Glendale Residence Inn as their address is what sparked this investigation.


http://tinyurl.com/8ywrxfj

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2012 08:10 AM (cHZB7)

85 Good morning, friends.

Pet peeve: Playing chess against someone online who takesa long timeto make an elementary move, in hopes that I'll quit.

Thank goodness for chess clocks, or else I'd sit here all day.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 08:11 AM (I2LwF)

86 Obambi is a sucker of cock and has made many ordinary citizens miserable.

Yeah, he's a fucking failure & a tyrant to boot!

Posted by: Oscar Meyer at April 27, 2012 08:11 AM (0Dx01)

87 BTW, in decades of drug testing where I used to work we had a total of three employees that I knew about who were impacted.


One woman who was found with marijuana in the sample, one guy who was found with cocaine, and one individual who blew greater than 0.04 on the breathalyzer because he had stayed up too late the night before drinking.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:12 AM (YdQQY)

88 @73" I can't believe Jones actually did something intelligent." Posted by Blacksheep.

That's what bothers me. Claiborne hasn't done anything for them yet. If he comes up with turf-toe that keeps him sidelined for 3 years after he signs a multi-million dollar contract, I wouldn't be surprised. The curse of Jerry.

Posted by: Case at April 27, 2012 08:14 AM (FKGw9)

89
Except is doesn't. They sell they card and the PIN. And they do it on Facebook and Twitter, right out in front of God and everybody.

Yes they do but you can't stop stupid. With stamps, lots of people would sell a portion of their stamps to get cash for booze, etc. But some (like a guy I knew) would sell them all. Those are the kind who sell their cards.

The thing is you only get 40 to 60 cents on the dollar for food stamps, so if you want to get the most out of the program the old stamp system allowed you to sell what you needed for your vices and use the rest legitimately. With the new system you have to either sell or barter food for vices (kinda difficult) or sell the whole card. So it does discourage abuse to a degree.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 08:14 AM (7+pP9)

90 Good morning everyone. Today is Friday, April 27th, 2012. On this day in 2011, my grandson was born. He will go on to be educated by his grandmother in the classics: literature, history, the Scriptures, physical athleticism and the rules of sport, and the fine art of being a gentleman. We may have to call in an outside tutor for math and science. He will go on to win the Presidency in the year 2052, that is, unless his two year old sister is already the incumbent, in which case he will have to settle for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2012 08:16 AM (P6QsQ)

91 Any employer who doesn't send an employee home for alcohol on breath or suspicion of drug use is opening themselves up to huge liability if the person hurts themselves on the job. Not to mention the potential for the person to cause huge damage to expensive machinery or even a computer network. You get a person out of work on disability for too many days you then have OSHA banging at your door, hardhats already in place.

The threat of a drug test on suspicion with termination on positive results should be a given for every employer. That includes the government.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:16 AM (phlKA)

92 Andrew Luck has shown a nice talent for being diplomatic with the fans in Indy, many of whom are having trouble letting go of Peyton Manning. He talked about his dad's friendship with Archie Manning and also about how much he admires Peyton.

That will go a long way towards mollifying a lot of disgruntled fans.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:17 AM (GoIUi)

93 That was cute mama winger! Happy b-day to your grandson!

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2012 08:17 AM (X6akg)

94 That will go a long way towards mollifying a lot of disgruntled fans.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:17 AM (GoIUi)

Not if he throws 20 interceptions and they only win 2 games

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:19 AM (i6RpT)

95 Illegals are racking up huge IRS refunds, mainly by claiming nieces and
nephews back in Mexico that have never even been here. The whistleblower
estimates the fraud adds up to billions of dollars:




I don't understand how they can enter them without a social security number, which is required to be entered on your tax forms to receive the credit.

Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2012 08:19 AM (P6QsQ)

96 7 "Fascists at labor department withdraw child chore rule after massive protest. I never did get my question asked which was how do they have the authority to issue this crap via executive fiat anyway. Farms were specifically exempted by the original labor laws. But that is more so let it be written, so let it be done by this lawless admin."http://is.gd/oG4fm5
Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

Probing for weakness.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 27, 2012 08:20 AM (R5kqg)

97 #94 Well, no, if he turns out to be that bad all bets are off. However, I think people will be willing to give him a chance.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:20 AM (GoIUi)

98 #95 They just write a fake SS# or one use one they bought.

Which reminds me I saw that the IRS wasted no time in cashing the very large check I wrote them.

Good. I wanted to make sure my soldier I am supporting gets paid. You other moroons are the ones who are paying for that GSA partier and the EPA "crucify them" guy.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:23 AM (GoIUi)

99 Cowboys were stupid. Everyone picking after the Redskins, did grab DiCastro was wrong.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 08:24 AM (EBBBm)

100 I don't understand how they can enter them without a social security number, which is required to be entered on your tax forms to receive the credit.

The IRS is overwhelmed at tax season. They basically shoot first (send the refund money) and ask questions later. People claim to have earned a ton of money, paid a lot of taxes, and claim a lot of deductions, and for some reason it's getting the green light.

It might be why we're seeing so many return to Mexico. The IRS is only now getting around to asking the questions.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:24 AM (phlKA)

101 Did NOT, sorry ill get more coffee

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 08:24 AM (EBBBm)

102 That was cute mama winger! Happy b-day to your grandson!


Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2012 08:17 AM (X6akg)

-----------------
Thanks Tami. I've come to realize that the most important thing I will ever do in life is to teach and guide and grow these young ones. Everything else pales in comparison. When you're a mom, you're so busy doing daily life stuff that it's easy to forget you're molding minds and spirits, because what you're mostly trying to do is laundry, dishes, meals, work, etc. The luxury of being a grandparent is that you can skip all that and get down to brass tacks. I live for this.

Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2012 08:25 AM (P6QsQ)

103 They just write a fake SS# or one use one they bought.

-----------------

I would be quaking in my boots with guilt and fright at being caught. I guess I wouldn't make a very good criminal.

Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2012 08:26 AM (P6QsQ)

104 Regarding employer drug testing: it seems to me that if there is no obvious sign of drug abuse, it probably IS too much to demand that employees hand over urine sample anytime their employer whimsically demands one.

If you see signs of actual drug-induced behavior, that's one thing. Beyond that... when you come right down to it, How is it any of you business?

Just because the employer doesn't want to employe people that use drugs?

Well, what if employees don't want to work for drug abusers? Should their union demand the company management and ownership be drug tested whenever they feel like it?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:28 AM (niZvt)

105 The one good thing about starting the day at 6 AM is that by 8:30 my day is half over

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:29 AM (i6RpT)

106 Should their union demand the company management and ownership be drug tested whenever they feel like it?
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:28 AM (niZvt)

I got no problem with that

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (i6RpT)

107 Mama, how do you get caught? You've been living illegally here for years without getting nabbed, you've layers of fake id, your address is a flophouse for hundreds, and once the check clears you get the cash out of the country.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (EBBBm)

108 Should their union demand the company management and ownership be drug tested whenever they feel like it?
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:28 AM (niZvt)

I got no problem with that
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (i6RpT)


obama ever get pee tested?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (i6RpT)

109 I would be quaking in my boots with guilt and fright at being caught.

That's because you're not in the country working illegally. They have no respect for our laws and know they can slip back across the border in a day or two and escape prosecution. The IRS is just a piggy-bank for them to raid, leaving suckers like me to pick up the tab.

You, on the other hand, realize they can take your home, your car, empty your checking account, attach your wages, refuse to pay you SS at some future time, and a zillion other penalties.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (phlKA)

110 Time to go to work...

The difference between somebody showing up to work drunk or high vs. randomly subjecting your employees to testing is all the difference in the world.

The argument goes, they can test for drugs, they can test for alcohol. What about the diabetic who eats snickers bars? Or the fat kid with the bag of potato chips. Are you testing his cholesterol levels and firing him for endangering the company's bottom line?

What about the single woman who seems to be getting a little wide in the belly, can you force her to take a pregnancy test for you?

More privacy, not less. That's my motto.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 08:31 AM (Gc/Qi)

111
obama ever get pee tested?
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:30 AM (i6RpT)


It tasted fine.

Posted by: Michelle at April 27, 2012 08:31 AM (niZvt)

112 I live for this.


Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2012 08:25 AM (P6QsQ)


You're lucky you live close enough to do that and they're lucky to have you.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2012 08:32 AM (X6akg)

113 The scheme involves illegal immigrants -- illegal immigrants who are filing tax returns. http://tinyurl.com/6nmvx9b
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2012 07:47 AM (cHZB7)


It's waaay past time for a flat tax. Do away with the current system FIRST and then a VAT. Oh, and a budget would be nice.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 27, 2012 08:32 AM (R5kqg)

114 Well, what if employees don't want to work for drug
abusers? Should their union demand the company management and ownership
be drug tested whenever they feel like it?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:28 AM (niZvt)
----------------

The programs I am familiar with ALL employees were part of the testing requirements, including management all the way up to the CEO.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:32 AM (YdQQY)

115 t's waaay past time for a flat tax. Do away with the current system FIRST and then a VAT. Oh, and a budget would be nice.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 27, 2012 08:32 AM (R5kqg)
----------------\\

Flat tax of 10% yes, VAT no.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 08:33 AM (YdQQY)

116 Hey, people persons, I just read something amazing, and it's on the internet, so it has to be true:

Obama eats dogs.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Posted by: Hayabusa at April 27, 2012 08:33 AM (NSitI)

117 That's because you're not in the country working illegally. They have no respect for our laws and know they can slip back across the border in a day or two and escape prosecution.

Well, why SHOULD illegals be expected to respect our immigration laws?

We don't.

Posted by: Michelle at April 27, 2012 08:34 AM (niZvt)

118 Irsay treats the Colts fans worse than he does anybody. To lose games on purpose just to get the number one pick because his all-everything QB is old and hurt and needs to be replaced is just disgusting.

Posted by: Case at April 27, 2012 08:34 AM (FKGw9)

119 Off, fat assed sock

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:34 AM (niZvt)

120 Obama eats dogs.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 27, 2012 08:33 AM (NSitI)


Yes.

Obama confirms it himself in his "auto" biography, "Revolutionary Dreams of My Marxist Fathers."

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 08:35 AM (niZvt)

121 We will never know the truth about what happened at the bin Laden house.

Interesting side note: when the Pakistanis demolished the bin Laden house they found 2 copies of the Holy Bible with notations and markings throughout.

Don't know what that means, but I do know it was never reported in the US media.

Posted by: Good Times at April 27, 2012 08:35 AM (ShuAW)

122 116, yes I saw it on the internet as well

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 08:37 AM (EBBBm)

123 More privacy, not less. That's my motto.

I was an employer back in the days of near zero unemployment. It was difficult to find employees who weren't drug or alcohol problems. I couldn't care less about their sex life, reproductive condition, cholesterol or anything else. I had equipment worth 100's of thousands of dollars that these knuckleheads would nearly destroy, daily, if I didn't have the ability to demand an immediate drug test (on reasonable suspicion) and terminate on positive result. I wasn't going to stop what I was doing, deliver someone to the Dr, wait around for a pee test, waste a couple hours on a 'slight' suspicion.

Oh, they still did plenty of damage. But if you order a drug test, that's all the information you are going to get. A check list of opiates, THC, and some other drugs with a possible check next to them.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:39 AM (phlKA)

124 #118 Oh, no argument from me on that. I have complained for years that they vested too much cash and strategy on Manning at the expense of the rest of the team.

I am not a fan other than I like to see the team do well enough that they bring money through fans to the downtown area. Same with the Pacers, only I am even less interested in them.

I just never really got interested in professional sports. I am not ant-football or anything like that, just sort of a mildly interested observer.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:39 AM (GoIUi)

125 I believe it’s rare when a postal employee retires with just their pension. With the rules as they stand now, it’s much more profitable for them to get disability payments claiming back problems or “mood and anxiety disorders”.

Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2012 08:40 AM (ZDsRL)

126 113, flat tax wont help this problem. End withholding, certified funds due with solid ID annually prior to voting or at the post office prior to the end of the Government fiscal year.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 08:40 AM (EBBBm)

127 Our drunk and high employees are our most productive.

Posted by: General Motors at April 27, 2012 08:41 AM (ShuAW)

128 Time for me to get to work!

All of you have a great day!

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2012 08:43 AM (GoIUi)

129
http://tinyurl.com/6mypo4k

There ain't nothin' funny 'bout the JEF..




Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 08:43 AM (AZ6VV)

130 1Q GDP only at 2.2% when mcuh better was expected due to the warm weather.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 27, 2012 08:44 AM (nZvGM)

131 The VAWA legislation wasn't only about "protecting"women. This bill also expanded protection to includeundocumented immigrant, LGBT, and Native American victims of abuse. Senate RINOs whined about it but failed to get the expanded provisions removed.

Pussies.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2012 08:45 AM (4q5tP)

132 I love mama winger's job description of a grandma. My daughter and grand daughter have been living at my house for over a year. It helps them and I have someone there when I'm on extended travel (4-6 months at a stretch). Me and the Bug have gotten to be best of friends in the past few monthswhen I've managed to stay put. But that all changes tomorrow when the girls and thepup I got for Bug's Christmas present are all moving to Colorado. Daughter's getting married to an active duty guy stationed at Fort Carson. Great guy and I'm happy with the marriage but damn I'm gonna miss them all.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 27, 2012 08:45 AM (OBDWE)

133
I do have a problem with testing for marijuana because it can't discriminate between being a user and being stoned. I've got a buddy who has all sorts of anxiety problems and aches and pains. He doesn't get stoned while working and pot helps him better than any of the meds he's prescribed. It sucks to be him.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 08:45 AM (7+pP9)

134 Obama eats dogs.



Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Posted by: Hayabusa at April 27, 2012 08:33 AM (NSitI)



To paraphrase General Patton - Barry, you non-magnificent bastard, it's in your book!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 08:46 AM (1Jaio)

135
http://tinyurl.com/7y2hhag

Fun Facts about the JEF eating dog.

I know, JEF not funny. JEF eating dog: funny.


Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 08:49 AM (AZ6VV)

136 2.2% will get revised down. Under 2% is effectively no growth.

Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2012 08:51 AM (MMC8r)

137 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Economic growth cooled in the first quarter as businesses cut back on investment and restocked shelves at a moderate pace, but stronger demand for automobiles softened the blow.

Gross domestic product
expanded at a 2.2 percent annual rate, the Commerce Department said on
Friday in its advance estimate, moderating from the fourth quarter's 3
percent rate.

While that was below economists' expectations for a 2.5 percent pace, a surge in consumer spending
took some of the sting from the report. However, growth was still
stronger than analysts' predictions early in the quarter for an
expansion below 1.5 percent.



Spin Reuters, spin. Polish that turd until it shines comrades

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 08:51 AM (1Jaio)

138 The debit card would be mailed once. Subsequent payments would automagically appear in the account.

Posted by: Jimbo at April 27, 2012 08:53 AM (O3R/2)

139 "Regrets, but no apology""Saying they had regrets, but without apologizing directly, the federal
government’s lawyers have admitted to the Supreme Court that the partial
victory they wonin a case three years ago was based on flawed
information they had given to the Court. "http://tinyurl.com/85e4rzq

Posted by: angela at April 27, 2012 08:54 AM (oZfic)

140 125 I believe it’s rare when a postal employee retires with just their pension. With the rules as they stand now, it’s much more profitable for them to get disability payments claiming back problems or “mood and anxiety disorders”.
----------------------------------------

I believe it's rare when someone actually says something truthful about the Postal Service. I'm sorry, but your claim is pure crap.

Posted by: Good Times at April 27, 2012 08:55 AM (ShuAW)

141 good morning.....i thought it was thursday.......not sure why i thought that

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 08:55 AM (Ho2rs)

142 Imagine you're an employer today. You have a computer network that controls the entire production process. One of your employees reads AoS at lunch, clicks on a Curious link that goes to a pr0n site, and downloads a virus that cripples your computer system. Support will have to work through the night to restore the network.

Every hour of lost production is 5,000 dollars lost. You send 20 employees home for the day, they will not be paid for time lost.

You ask the employee a question and his speech is slurred, his pupils are dilated. Is it still a privacy issue?

btw: I know of employers now that totally black list the entire Internet to avoid this problem. Employees have to make written request to get a site on the 'white list'.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 08:56 AM (phlKA)

143
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=130545

I am holding my breath for this to come true.

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 08:57 AM (AZ6VV)

144
I've got a buddy who has all sorts of anxiety problems and aches and pains. He doesn't get stoned while working and pot helps him better than any of the meds he's prescribed<<<<

Uh-huh.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 08:57 AM (APmL9)

145 City of Miami bought 300 new cars (mostly Priuses) in 2006-2007... then left them in a parking garage to rot.

http://automotivediscovery.com/ miami-dade-county-forgets-hundreds-municipal-vehicles/ 9213028/

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 09:00 AM (gPDxp)

146 The cards are accounts unto themselves. Once issued the accounts can be direct deposited to without further mailings. It's like adding more credit to an existing gift card. Except this gift card comes from the government and takes money from the productive to give to those who are not.

Posted by: epobirs at April 27, 2012 09:01 AM (kcfmt)

147 Did everyone see the Iowahawk/Tony Robbins video? Hopefully Ace will make it a thread today.

http://tinyurl.com/7td7yfu

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:03 AM (phlKA)

148 "btw: I know of employers now that totally black list the entire Internet to avoid this problem. Employees have to make written request to get a site on the 'white list'."

The company I work for has Intranet, but no access (that I'm aware of) to the Internet through their computers.

So that eliminates a LOT of problems...

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 09:04 AM (KB0hv)

149 On the subject of pot...

If smoking dope is so much better than Marinol, then why is it that when we have minor pain, we don't go scrape bark off a tree, boil it down, and drink the sludge that's left? I mean, based on the medical pot argument, that has to be better than taking an aspirin.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:05 AM (I2LwF)

150 I have anxiety and tennis elbow. I smoke opium because it helps me better than antidepressants and Advil.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 09:07 AM (APmL9)

151 Judge rejects request to order Obama to release the Osama bin Laden photos. The CIA, which is apparently in possession of the photos (DOD said it didn't have them), says it cannot release them for reasons of national security. The judge won't second-guess the CIA.


And of course, Obama would NEVER lie about REALLY killing Osama merely for political reasons... would he?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:07 AM (niZvt)

152 >>The company I work for has Intranet, but no access (that I'm aware of) to the Internet through their computers.

I know a guy who surfs all day using an air card. Fat lazy bastard is brilliant when it comes to solving certain types of problems.

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 09:07 AM (AZ6VV)

153 150 I have anxiety and tennis elbow. I smoke opium because it helps me better than antidepressants and Advil.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 09:07 AM (APmL9)


Have you tried Medical Crack yet?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:08 AM (niZvt)

154 "Q: I receive federal disability retirement from the U.S. Postal Service
after 27 1/2 years of service. My disability was approved for anxiety
and severe depression.
During my postal career, I was a city letter
carrier. I have an opportunity to take a job as a medical courier. Do
you think this job will jeopardize my continuing to receive disability?
The two jobs are a bit similar in nature, however the stress level of
the new job would be far less. I do not want to jeopardize my disability
in any way. There is no way I could ever return to the stress of the
Postal Service with my mental conditions."

=====

That wasn't hard to find.

Posted by: fluffy knows SEO at April 27, 2012 09:08 AM (z9HTb)

155 I am not buying the fake SS # thing. Everything gets entered into the database. SS # s are crosschecked. I claimed my eldest son the year he joined the Navy (he lived with me for over half the year). The IRS sent me a form letter informing me of the conflict. The let it go. A phony SS# would be spotted quickly.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 27, 2012 09:09 AM (O3R/2)

156 Like to drink 'till you pass out and puke? Like to shoot a little smack to make your "aches and pains" go away? Do a little puff-puff on Saturday because it couldn't possibly affect your work on Monday?

Fuck you. Someone else you work with is having to work all that much harder because you're a worthless glob of jelly without self fucking control.

Now, here's your piss test appointment card and complimentary shinebox.

Posted by: My dog's got no nose at April 27, 2012 09:11 AM (nwL1o)

157 So I guess Medical Joint smokers can smoke it, for medical reasons, right in the office and stink up the entire office with it? And the joint won't be taxed, because medicine has to be affordable?

Meanwhile, cigarette smokers get treated like criminals. Haven't these turds ever heard of medical tobacco?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:12 AM (niZvt)

158 Get a load this freakin nonsense
http://tinyurl.com/7oodsjj
**
Morn ya'll

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2012 09:13 AM (eavT+)

159 I do cocaine because eating dog gives me a bit of stomach distress.

Posted by: Barak Insane Obamao at April 27, 2012 09:13 AM (WUWb9)

160 I'm so glad that we let them wacky Islamistist takeover Egypt.

Now you can have sex with your dead wife before they bury her!

I suspect a booming tourist industry in the making!

Egypt! Come for the pyramids, stay for the necrophilia!

http://tinyurl.com/bvy6wz3

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:14 AM (ztIQE)

161
7 Fascists at labor department withdraw child chore rule after massive protest. I never did get my question asked which was how do they have the authority to issue this crap via executive fiat anyway. Farms were specifically exempted by the original labor laws. But that is more so let it be written, so let it be done by this lawless admin.

http://is.gd/oG4fm5
Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)
-----------

I'm still spinning on this one.

Why would they throw this out there KNOWING it would cause an outcry?

Did they think we wouldn't find out (thank you Daily Caller).

Did they think people would agree?

Why not wait until the ONE THAT CAN DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN YOU gets re-elected where he can implement the lynchings of conservatives. (he won't get re-elected, but w/e, they think they will, and may with the fraud and bullying).

My thoughts:

- appease the far left
- appease the unions (who would benefit)
- appease the illegals/cheap labor (who would benefit)
- appease the corporations using the cheap/illegal labor

But, as usual, a miscalculation of the American people.

Posted by: anywhere they can make a buck at April 27, 2012 09:15 AM (HOOye)

162 Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:12 AM (niZvt)

California...You can't smoke a cigarette on your balcony in some apt buildings, but you can smoke pot.

Oddly enough, pot is still illegal, right?

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 09:16 AM (KB0hv)

163 Joe Biden made a stop in the Everglades with his defensive line: the
Secret Service. While touring with Commissioner of Florida's Fish and
Wildlife Conservation Ron Bergeron, Biden joked about his special teams,
"You see this man right here, my secret service guy? He's -- he played
in pro football, also was on that national championship team that
Clemson had. He said, if I go, he'll shoot you, Ronnie. So -- I'm only
kidding, that's not true. He didn't say he'd shoot Ronnie; he said
he'd shoot the alligator if I went."





Good thing we didn't get that idiot Palin as VP. The combined mental fire power of Barry and Joey couldn't kill a flea

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 09:16 AM (1Jaio)

164 "In closing the letter, Deputy Solicitor General Dreeben said that “the
government recognizes its special obligation to provide this Court with
reliable and accurate information at all times.” It said the federal
lawyers had tried to do that in this case in “good faith,” adding
that”we regret the necessity for this letter.” http://tinyurl.com/85e4rzq

Wonder if this will impact their decision on the AZ immigration law that they are hearing now?

Posted by: angela at April 27, 2012 09:17 AM (oZfic)

165 I haven't found an anti-anxiety medicine as effective as cigarettes. That's true.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:17 AM (I2LwF)

166 In the Iowahawk/Tony Robbins video TR starts talking about Iowahawk at about 6:58

It's funny how TR is the 'independent' and has to warn viewers about Iowahawks blog. Because IO is the big bad conservative who uses bad language.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:17 AM (phlKA)

167 Remember that CA politician who had a domestic helper with a fake SS? Sure, the Government "caught" the error but apparently nobody (including the employer) is empowered to do anything about it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2012 09:18 AM (hiMsy)

168 Posted by: My dog's got no nose at April 27, 2012 09:11 AM (nwL1o)




Sorry to hear about your dog's nose. Was it a Barry snack?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 09:18 AM (1Jaio)

169 you get your monthly allotment through an ATM or something. So the cards
are not mailed out monthly, which reduces the mailings by millions.

so Obama was right, ATMS stealing peoples jobs.

snicker

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2012 09:18 AM (TomZ9)

170 @160: It's been less widely reported, but Egypt also just made it legal to marry 14 year old girls.

Related: the Islamists vs. Atheists video that Tim Blair posted is kind of amusing. (A bunch of Muslims protested at the World Atheist Convention in Australia. I had no idea there was such a thing).

Posted by: Ian S. at April 27, 2012 09:18 AM (wllJH)

171 Federal disability is a very tempting offer:

"Removal for cause does not disqualify an employee for disability retirement benefits."

Posted by: fluffy at April 27, 2012 09:18 AM (z9HTb)

172 Note to curious: Nic is stale. Must be changed like socks to stay ahead of adoring moronette horde. Jus' sayin'....

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 09:19 AM (OlN4e)

173 Can someone translate Biden into English? I have no clue what he was trying to say.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 27, 2012 09:19 AM (XdlcF)

174
A picture of me treating my carpal tunnel syndrome like a BOSS:

http://tinyurl.com/7dwopfz

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 09:19 AM (APmL9)

175 True dat, Truman

I miss smoking. Every damn day.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 27, 2012 09:19 AM (SB0V2)

176
>>Egypt! Come for the pyramids, stay for the necrophilia!

This is the most serious fucked up shit that I have ever seen.

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 09:20 AM (AZ6VV)

177 I quit smoking in 1997. And I still think about smoking every single day

no med can replace nicotine. dammit

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 27, 2012 09:20 AM (SB0V2)

178 "I've got a buddy who has all sorts of anxiety problems and aches and pains"
**
**
Maybe if he didn't smoke pot he wouldn't be so anxious, weed can/does make you paranoid. As foraches, try Advil. If he has pain, then he sould see a doctor.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2012 09:21 AM (eavT+)

179 166 In the Iowahawk/Tony Robbins video TR starts talking about Iowahawk at about 6:58

It's funny how TR is the 'independent' and has to warn viewers about Iowahawks blog. Because IO is the big bad conservative who uses bad language.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:17 AM (phlKA)
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I know, right.

I almost fell off my chair.

I actually had to think, am I crazy? I just don't see it...

Posted by: anywhere they can make a buck at April 27, 2012 09:21 AM (HOOye)

180 The post Office is being kept alive by junk mail. Email is taking over everything else. This is the union's Last Stand and the Ds and standing by them. The outcome is inevitable, the timing is all.

Posted by: SurferDoc at April 27, 2012 09:21 AM (6H6FZ)

181 Egypt! Come for the pyramids, stay for the necrophilia!

This is the most serious fucked up shit that I have ever seen.

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 09:20 AM (AZ6VV)

Welcome to my life

Posted by: The Goat at April 27, 2012 09:21 AM (i6RpT)

182
Uh-huh.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 08:57 AM (APmL9)


Lots of people react his way. Too bad.

I've known this guy about 30 years and he just likes smoking pot more than taking benzodiazepams. Benzos are powerful, addictive meds and you can use them while working if you have a prescription for them. Is that better than a guy who likes to get stoned at night? Smoking pot isn't as effective as the percocet he's prescribed, but it does make his sciatica more bearable.

The guy can go to work taking a combo of benzos and percocet, or tough out his eight hours and chill out at night with a couple glasses of wine and some pot. He'd rather do the latter. As an employer, which would you prefer?

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 09:22 AM (7+pP9)

183 Oh, and that was different from the funny thing he said, without realizing it, at Treacher's.

Bullet, dodged, Palin.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 27, 2012 09:22 AM (XdlcF)

184 I quit smoking ciggies while in college. I quit because I calculated that I could afford a new Honda 750 if I quit smoking. It was easy. Just took up dipping and cost went to around a buck a week, but that was 30 years ago.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 09:22 AM (OlN4e)

185 Posted by: Jimbo at April 27, 2012 09:09 AM (O3R/2)

You are wrong. My sister's SS# was used last year to gain a several thousand dollar refund. She has been trying to get this fixed for a year because she is in trouble for not filing her return, but she can't because their files saqy she already received her refund.

This year, THE SAME THING HAPPENED.

Incompetent bastards.

Posted by: momma at April 27, 2012 09:22 AM (oKsWl)

186 Hi folks! Off to get jabbed (blood test), but thought I'd say good morning.

via Twitter

@veroderugy The Crucial Distinction Between Being Pro-Business and Pro-Market http://t.co/aihUBIlN

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at April 27, 2012 09:23 AM (5H6zj)

187 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:23 AM (i6RpT)

188 I have anxiety and tennis elbow.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

Stop playing with the fuzzy balls.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2012 09:23 AM (c9Ivb)

189 >>Welcome to my life



Posted by: The Goat

What are you talking about?

Posted by: The Chicken at April 27, 2012 09:23 AM (AZ6VV)

190 President Bush riding Bikes to today with the Wounded Warriors. And it's not for show, but from his heart

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:24 AM (i6RpT)

191 I quit smoking in 1997. And I still think about smoking every single day



no med can replace nicotine. dammit

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 27, 2012 09:20 AM (SB0V2)
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I quit in 2005 and every now and then I will get hit with a hard urge to light up a cig. I read a site one time that said quitting cigarettes was like quitting an alcohol addiction. You had to treat it like being an alcoholic. Everyday was a recovering smoker day.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 09:24 AM (YdQQY)

192 What what better way to celebrate Freyday than to supersize them??

http://tinyurl.com/czjv9nm


Bless you, sir.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2012 09:25 AM (Pi5Sz)

193 143
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=130545

I am holding my breath for this to come true.

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2012 08:57 AM (AZ6VV)
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this is just Moochelle Antoinette's way of easing into their loss, and eventual push out the door in November.

Posted by: denial of failure at April 27, 2012 09:25 AM (HOOye)

194 >>What are you talking about?
Posted by: The Chicken at

At least you lived to ask a question.

Posted by: The Dog at April 27, 2012 09:25 AM (XdlcF)

195
156 Like to drink 'till you pass out and puke? Like to shoot a little smack to make your "aches and pains" go away? Do a little puff-puff on Saturday because it couldn't possibly affect your work on Monday?

Fuck you.


I don't smoke pot you fucking dumbass. Now get yer fucking shine box.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 09:26 AM (7+pP9)

196

thanks for the music video

I tried to get up and dance

really

but I couldn't put my coffee down yet

rerun it later today

at least I tapped my feet

Posted by: morning dead weight at April 27, 2012 09:26 AM (HOOye)

197 A judge in Florida has blocked Gov. Scott's order that state workers get drug tested. The judge found that there was no evidence of a drug problem at state agencies and so no basis for the testing.
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Good for the judge. Itys stupid shit like this, the total disregard for the constitution that gives conservatives a bad name. Not that the dumbocrats are any better, but why act as dumb as they do?

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:27 AM (UpwlP)

198 Jumbo, they aren't phony ssn's, they are good ones that are unused. Where the IRS fails is in checking against deaths, kids, etc.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 09:27 AM (EBBBm)

199 The manufacturing facility I work in had to do a 100% drug test for insurance purposes...we have an older, more stable workforce, so we didn't expect to snare anyone...in the end, we did get one hot test--thedeputy plant manager. In retrospect,he wasspacing out and nearly ran us out of raw material, sowith him outof the picture we've actually improved our performance. I don't know what you could doin state government to improve it aside from nuking the state capitol, but I suspect thatsomeone high up in the administration (NPI) didn't want to get his ass nailed and peddled influence on this judge.
I hatedrugs and I hate the human weakness that causes people to abuse drugs--I had zero sympathy for the assholes we kicked out of the military for this, and astaxpayers,we have every right to ensure thepublic workforceisoperated by coherent, law-abiding individuals.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2012 09:27 AM (Ec6wH)

200 Good for the judge. Itys stupid shit like this, the total disregard for the constitution that gives conservatives a bad name.


Bullshit. This has nothing to do with the Constitution.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 09:28 AM (YdQQY)

201 Jimmah, where in the Constitution does it provide for restrictions on the FL State government or its employment rules?

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 09:29 AM (EBBBm)

202
Vic,
Did you notice in your link about the illegal hit and run that she posted a $50,000 cash bond! Where the hell did that come from?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (mFxQX)

203 DID THE POTUS GIVE & ISLANDS TO THE RUSKIES WITHOUT CONSULTING ACE AND ASSOCIATES OR IS THAT ANOTHER NIGHTMARE I HAD?

Posted by: Clemenza at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (YlSwz)

204 Posted by: epobirs at April 27, 2012 09:01 AM (kcfmt)


Just wait until the IRS issues the anti-EBT card for people that work that automagically takes money out of your bank account and re-deposits in the account of someone that doesn't work. Much faster redistribution than than taxes and another reason thay want a cashless society.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (i3+c5)

205 Bullshit. This has nothing to do with the Constitution.
Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 09:28 AM (YdQQY)
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It sounds to me like it does. Haven't read the opinion, but it sounds like he's basing his decision on it.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (UpwlP)

206 I quit smoking last year, and really don't think about it too much.

Oh, I still get the "need rush" ever now and then, mostly when I get into a car though.

I found something weird with my addiction though, when I go out drinking, I never even think about it. I always thought that would be the hardest.


Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (ztIQE)

207 Did you notice in your link about the illegal hit
and run that she posted a $50,000 cash bond! Where the hell did that
come from?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (mFxQX



No I didn't see that, but she probably borrowed money from friends and got a bail bondsman to guarantee it. That cost $5K.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 09:32 AM (YdQQY)

208
A federal judge has ruled that Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) violated the Constitution last year when he ordered drug testing for state government workers.
U.S. District Judge Ursula Ungaro ruled on Wednesday that suspicionless drug testing testing for state workers violated the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable search and seizure.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:33 AM (UpwlP)

209 The reason employers make it a condition of employment that they can drug-test employees at any time is so they can do it if they have a suspicion of drug use. No employer is going to do random tests if they don't have to because they cost money. Truckers, et al have to participate in random drug-testing programs because of safety issues; the rest of us have to actually act stupid before your average employer is going to do anything.

WRT the Egyptian necrophilia issue, does the body have to be wearing hijab before it can be screwed within 6 hours of death? Or is naked still OK?

Posted by: Tonestaple at April 27, 2012 09:34 AM (VS9kC)

210 and as taxpayers, we have every right to ensure the public workforce is operated by coherent, law-abiding individuals is pr0n surfed daily on your dime by Medical Marijuana users dealing with the minor aches and pains of growing older daily.

FTFY

Posted by: The Public Workforce at April 27, 2012 09:34 AM (phlKA)

211
Also, my buddy does tough it out at work. He doesn't like being around machinery while he's taking benzos and percocets.

So he chills out at night with a couple of glasses of wine, some benzos and percocets. All perfectly legal. It's also far more likely to kill him or wreck his organs than smoking some pot.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 09:34 AM (7+pP9)

212 Velvet, the horror - some village is going to starve without those funds.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 09:35 AM (EBBBm)

213 While I don't really agree with drug use,I'm not crazy about others deciding what you may do on ones down time. I mean look at people like schumer that would like to even control smoking? will that become illegal in NY and you 'fail' if you smoke a cig on the way to work?


I also don't like the idea of law not being implemented across the board if one must for most jobs why not state or fed jobs?

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2012 09:35 AM (TomZ9)

214 I'm of the opinion that Romney will select Marco Rubio as his VP.

I think it will be a big mistake.

Posted by: Bitter clinger and all that at April 27, 2012 09:35 AM (CP+yl)

215 t sounds to me like it does. Haven't read the opinion, but it sounds like he's basing his decision on it.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (UpwlP)
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Oh yes he "claimed" it was unconstitutional. The problem is that he is in conflict with a previous Supreme Court ruling which local judges can NOT do.

SCOTUS ruled long ago that employers can do drug tests of employees as a condition of employment. What the constitution protects you against is "unreasonable search and seizure" by the government on private citizens.
So police can not stop you and do random drug and alcohol checks (although many States are still doing that) but they can require their employees to get random drug and alcohol checks.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 09:36 AM (YdQQY)

216 It's like, hey, lets have state workers be subject to the terms and conditions of a murder convict out on parole. Stop and search, house search, questioning neighbors, daily.... whatever else they can come up with....

Hey, they're STATE workers, they have no right to privacy.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:36 AM (UpwlP)

217 He did, Clemenza. Although, aside from the general principle, it doesn't really bother me. There wasn't anything there.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:36 AM (I2LwF)

218 206 I quit smoking last year, and really don't think about it too much.Oh, I still get the "need rush" ever now and then, mostly when I get into a car though. I found something weird with my addiction though, when I go out drinking, I never even think about it. I always thought that would be the hardest.
Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:30 AM (ztIQE)
**
Driving and drinking are mytriggers when it comes to smoking.Otherwise I can go a whole day w/o a smoke esp. if I'm busy at work or around the house.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 27, 2012 09:37 AM (eavT+)

219 So now Florida bureaucrats and their flunkies have a license to do drugs at work and the FL taxpayers get to pick up the tab. Fuck that. If Government workers are as damned important as the Government tells us they are, then they should all be held to at least the same standards as a fucking bus driver. The driver can only kill a busload of people, a bureaucrat can ruin millions of lives.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2012 09:37 AM (hiMsy)

220
Benzodiazepines are for ACUTE anxiety, meaning you only take them when needed. They're fast-acting relief for panic or anxiety that sneaks past the antidepressant goalie.

As for pain, it is either debilitating enough to effect your work or it isn't. If he is able to "tough it out" for eight hours without medication, and without ANY degradation of his job performance, then perhaps his pain isn't that bad.

Or maybe he just likes to get drunk and stoned.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 09:37 AM (APmL9)

221 "I always thought that would be the hardest."

You are a very, veryrare exception. Every person I know who has tried to quit smoking almost always starts up again when they drink.

The two just seem to go hand in hand.

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 09:37 AM (KB0hv)

222 The oil patch tends toward a boom and bust cycle. When it goes into bust, Halliburton does its level best not to lay people off. They do, however start the witch hunts. At my camp, everyone in the camp had to pee in the bottle. All personnel from the head guy to the lowest greasemonkey. Guess who they nabbed?One of thesuperintendents. They escorted him off the premises the same day the results came in.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (OlN4e)

223 everytime we have a random drug test at work.....at least one person refuses to partake and leaves......and is not allowed to come back........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (Ho2rs)

224 Oh yes he "claimed" it was unconstitutional. The problem is that he is in conflict with a previous Supreme Court ruling which local judges can NOT do. SCOTUS ruled long ago that employers can do drug tests of employees as a condition of employment. What the constitution protects you against is "unreasonable search and seizure" by the government on private citizens.So police can not stop you and do random drug and alcohol checks (although many States are still doing that) but they can require their employees to get random drug and alcohol checks. --------
That is exactly what it is. "unreasonable search by the government on private citizens". Thats why private companies get away with it, because they aren't the state, like the state is.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (UpwlP)

225 The Space Shuttle Enterprise is flying up here to NYC on the back of a NASA 747. This is what passes for a space program under obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (i6RpT)

226 189 >>Welcome to my life



Posted by: The Goat

What are you talking about?
Posted by: The Chicken at April 27, 2012 09:23 AM (AZ6VV)
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F**k you both.

Posted by: BO at April 27, 2012 09:39 AM (HOOye)

227 Why would they throw this out there KNOWING it would cause an outcry?

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I'll tell you why, if farmers can't hire local teens to work on their farms... who can they get to do farm work for low wages and no benefits?

Illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 09:39 AM (gPDxp)

228 Well if we are going to start testing gubmint workers for drugs, lets start at the top.

I hear eating dog, laced with phenobarb, causes mental retardation, delusions of grandeur, erectile dysfunction, and premature greying of hair.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:40 AM (ztIQE)

229 Well... I guess I now know why MTV stopped showing videos....

Posted by: Terry at April 27, 2012 09:41 AM (RNENT)

230 They didn't need space shuttles for muslim outreach or finding evidence of global warming.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:41 AM (I2LwF)

231 105 The one good thing about starting the day at 6 AM is that by 8:30 my day is half over
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 08:29 AM (i6RpT)
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Hey look, Barack checked in from the 11th tee

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2012 09:43 AM (SO2Q8)

232 I quit drinking in college when I realized it was a problem for me. I missed it beyond all reason. For years I missed it. I now only think about drinking occasionally. I quit smoking over New Years this year. The first few weeks were horrible but it is getting easier. I feel so much better not being dependent on cancer sticks.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2012 09:43 AM (jucos)

233 The Space Shuttle Enterprise is flying up here to
NYC on the back of a NASA 747. This is what passes for a space program
under obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (i6RpT)


What vacation destination is it taking the Obama family to?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 09:43 AM (1Jaio)

234 Posted by: Tonestaple at April 27, 2012 09:34 AM (VS9kC)

**

can't answer the corpse attire question, but will say that the Egyptian necro rule adds credence to the theory that Islam extremists are nothing but a death cult.

Posted by: kallisto at April 27, 2012 09:44 AM (jm/9g)

235 Here's some actual facts about the SS and other government payment beneficiaries no longer receiving checks:

After 2013 most everyone receiving a Federal government benefit check must receive it electronically through direct deposit to a bank account.

For those without a bank account, a debit card from Direct Express will be issued and the payment will be deposited with them. It has some fees but less than say a Walmart debit card.

Some people who already receive checks MAY request and receive permission to continue to do so on a case by case basis. (elderly, location problems, use of card problems)

This was mandated about 2006 or so to finalize in 2013.

The cost of printing and mailing the checks is enormous and yes, it's ironic that it's helping put another government bureaucracy out of business.

Posted by: Bitter clinger and all that at April 27, 2012 09:44 AM (CP+yl)

236 Yeah... that video was amazingly shitty. Is that someone Gabe knows personally or something?

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:44 AM (I2LwF)

237 I live within the 10 mile radius of a nuke plant and if I ever find out they're not randomly testing the plant operators I'd put up the For Sale sign the next morning.

One time I sat down and read my homeowners insurance. Guess what? They wrote a nuclear meltdown out of my policy. Something about if the government decrees that the property is no longer habitable... or some such language.

I know Vic can assure us all about the safety of the plant, and I agree, but this same plant had operators who got caught sleeping on their shift.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:46 AM (phlKA)

238 44 And if yesterday was Thorsday, that can only mean today is Frey's day.

What what better way to celebrate Freyday than to supersize them??

http://tinyurl.com/czjv9nm
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 07:32 AM (niZvt)
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"The President has a big stick."

Posted by: Joe homoerotic Biden at April 27, 2012 09:46 AM (HOOye)

239 I'm waiting for one of the bloggers to talk about the House Democrats introducing a Constitutional amendment to ban freedom of speech.

Link in my sig.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:47 AM (I2LwF)

240 You are a very, veryrare exception. Every person I
know who has tried to quit smoking almost always starts up again when
they drink.

The two just seem to go hand in hand.

Posted by: HH


I know! I even forced myself not to hang out with my drinking friends for 2 months after I quit. Did not touch a drop of alcohol in that time either.

I remember the first time I went out drinking after I quit, and being surprised at how much I did not want a smoke. I was a heavy smoker as well, 2 packs a day for 20+ years. The very idea of smoking again makes me kinda ill.


Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:47 AM (ztIQE)

241 @229: There's a term for a young rich blonde walking dressed like that and in a manner like that thru that kind of neighborhood late at night: rape bait.

MTV and music videos have spent thirty years now glamorizing those kinds of neighborhoods. The tableaux doesn't even make sense: what are all those people with expensive cars and clothes doing in a slum late at night? (Of course, the unspoken message is they are drug dealers - what a great model for our kids!)

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:48 AM (niZvt)

242 Rush Lindbaugh said that you don't want illegals working here. Why won't you selfish bitches let them take your jobs? Then you can wallow in filth on the recliner in your tiny apartment like I do!

Posted by: anjela at April 27, 2012 09:48 AM (ggRof)

243 Its already been established that any government worker even remotely connected to public safety, like in nuke plants, or cops,can be drug tested. Walker decided (apparently) to expand it to the entire workforce. He needs to go back and read the US Constitution.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:49 AM (UpwlP)

244 Sorry Truman, but I just don't see how any video featuring beautiful women ever falls into "amazingly shitty" category.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 09:49 AM (OlN4e)

245 Posted by: kallisto at April 27, 2012 09:44 AM (jm/9g)

Aren't there some interesting rules involving animals as well?

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2012 09:50 AM (i3+c5)

246 If you want NASA to get back to flying astronauts on American vehicles as soon as possible, tell your Congressional representatives to get on board with fully funding NASA's commercial crew development program, instead of pouring money down the dumb fucking black hole of the "Space Launch System".

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2012 09:51 AM (Pi5Sz)

247
Benzodiazepines are for ACUTE anxiety, meaning you only take them when needed. They're fast-acting relief for panic or anxiety that sneaks past the antidepressant goalie.

WRONG. There are more than a dozen varieties of them. Some are fast acting while others are far more long term.

As for pain, it is either debilitating enough to effect your work or it isn't. If he is able to "tough it out" for eight hours without medication, and without ANY degradation of his job performance, then perhaps his pain isn't that bad.

It probably does to some extent but not enough for him to lose his job. He leaves work almost every day in pain.

Or maybe he just likes to get drunk and stoned.

He does. But mainly he likes to sleep. He says he gets his best rest after cuddling up with a book or watching a movie and taking a few tokes.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 09:51 AM (7+pP9)

248 Effing IRS. SS crosschecking and summary validation would be so easy to do.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 27, 2012 09:51 AM (O3R/2)

249 10 vic

you just have to do it with out telling ANYONE....not even neighbors that appear to be on your side.....because some do gooder will get wind of it and rat you out........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 09:52 AM (Ho2rs)

250 The VAWA legislation wasn't only about "protecting"women. This bill also
expanded protection to includeundocumented immigrant, LGBT, and Native
American victims of abuse.


Maybe I need to be hit with a clue bat, but as far as I can tell, there already are laws against victims of abuse, regardless of their group identification. Is this a kabuki we much, or a redundant we much?

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 27, 2012 09:53 AM (OpijJ)

251 I don't know is anyone has mentioned this yet, but the chick in the vid looks a lot like Pris.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:53 AM (ztIQE)

252 /phooey sock

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2012 09:53 AM (OpijJ)

253 Pretty clear now why Trayvon Martin's parents refused to meet with George Zimmerman for a personal apology. Apparently there are plenty more gigs to attend on the "Racial Agitation Tour".

If Trayvon's parents were only interested in "justice" it would appear the arrest of George Zimmerman accomplished that. But at a rally for Trayvon last night in Los Angeles, there was plenty of raised black fists and incendiary speeches given.

What is the point of continuing with these rallies?

Posted by: Ned Racine's Exploding Libido at April 27, 2012 09:53 AM (ShuAW)

254 233 The Space Shuttle Enterprise is flying up here to
NYC on the back of a NASA 747. This is what passes for a space program
under obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (i6RpT)

What vacation destination is it taking the Obama family to?


I can remember watching live coverage of Apollo moonshots on TV. Back in the days the liberals didn't dare use the word "white" as a pejorative, yet. Now it's an "event" to piggyback an old shuttle to NYC to gather dust on the deck of an old WW2 aircraft carrier.

THIS is the exciting Hope and Change that has Mika and Donny Douche so hopped up evrry morning.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:54 AM (niZvt)

255 The Space Shuttle Enterprise is flying up here to
NYC on the back of a NASA 747. This is what passes for a space program
under obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 09:38 AM (i6RpT)


The whole fucking space program has been pretty incoherent for quite a while, serving mainly as a jobs corps for some otherwise unemployable engineers. That the JEF could come up with something as braindead as that moooooslim outreach garbage wouldn't have happened if it was doing something that everybody was on board with instead of sucking the Rooskis cocks by helping to maintain that orbiting vodka swillery those commie shitheads launched.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2012 09:54 AM (g8py2)

256 Hm. Eric Erickson and Mitch McConnell in a war of words.

Link in sig.

Exit question: Which one of them is punching down?

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 09:55 AM (I2LwF)

257 253 Pretty clear now why Trayvon Martin's parents refused to meet with George Zimmerman for a personal apology. Apparently there are plenty more gigs to attend on the "Racial Agitation Tour".

If Trayvon's parents were only interested in "justice" it would appear the arrest of George Zimmerman accomplished that. But at a rally for Trayvon last night in Los Angeles, there was plenty of raised black fists and incendiary speeches given.

What is the point of continuing with these rallies?
Posted by: Ned Racine's Exploding Libido at April 27, 2012 09:53 AM (ShuAW)


Election Day 2012.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 09:56 AM (niZvt)

258
I remember the first time I went out drinking after I quit, and being surprised at how much I did not want a smoke. I was a heavy smoker as well, 2 packs a day for 20+ years. The very idea of smoking again makes me kinda ill.<<<

My brother and I were both heavy smokers and we both quit at roughly the same time. Out drinking a year later, I tried a paper dick, and inhaling it, I thought someone ran a sword through my lungs, it hurt so bad. Couldn't do it if I WANTED to.

Well, a few months later, my brother's getting divorced andtook up smoking again. I was surprised and told him about my trying to inhale and how much it hurt.

"Yeah, that happened to me, too. You just have to fight through that shit."

"Seriously?"

"Yeah! You gotta WANT it, pussy!"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 09:57 AM (APmL9)

259 What is the point of continuing with these rallies?

Keep 'the base' fired up until Election Day. It will help to keep them occupied, 'cause he sure isn't creating any jobs for them, or anyone else.

It's total distraction, for the benefit of our total disaster of a Precedent.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:57 AM (phlKA)

260 The Space Shuttle Enterprise is flying up here to NYC on the back of a NASA 747. This is what passes for a space program under obama ---------------
They're still flying that thing around? Now that I think about it, its a good metaphor for the democrat economic philosophy. An airplane with a huge anchor strapped to the top.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 09:58 AM (UpwlP)

261 246 If you want NASA to get back to flying astronauts on American vehicles as soon as possible, tell your Congressional representatives to get on board with fully funding NASA's commercial crew development program, instead of pouring money down the dumb fucking black hole of the "Space Launch System".

THIS.

Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2012 09:58 AM (zoehZ)

262 Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2012 09:50 AM (i3+c5)

**

I don't know, wouldn't surprise me. Adult males are allowed to have sex with baby girls if they do it the "right" way. Don't know why these mofos are so uptight about homosexuality when they allow sex with every other creature, alive or dead.

Posted by: kallisto at April 27, 2012 09:59 AM (jm/9g)

263 Ed, I think I would know all about benzos.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 10:00 AM (APmL9)

264 Buzzards? You must be kidding. Buzzards don't kill things, they find and eat the already dead. Don't worry about them in the neighborhood, just be amazed that they are even there, as they are generally extremely shy and difficult to get close to.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 10:01 AM (OlN4e)

265 I know Vic can assure us all about the safety of the
plant, and I agree, but this same plant had operators who got caught
sleeping on their shift.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 09:46 AM (phlKA)
--------------------

There probably isn't a plant in the country that has not had people sleeping on backshifts. But more than likely none of them were control room operators. Most often it is the equipment operators.
I caught one myself one night. It was his second offense. He was fired the next morning. It is not tolerated at all.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 10:01 AM (YdQQY)

266 The whole fucking space program has been pretty incoherent for quite a while, serving mainly as a jobs corps for some otherwise unemployable engineers. {/i]

---------------

The shuttle was built to fly to the International Space Station. The ISS was built to give the Space Shuttle something to fly to.

It's like the Stimulus, you know? Paying one guy to dig a hole and another guy to fill it? Except a lot more expensive.

(And I'm the most pro-space exploration person this side of a Star Trek convention, but it seems like NASA has been running in circles since the Apollo program ran down.)

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 10:01 AM (gPDxp)

267 Keeping up the Trayvon rallies will also prompt more "for Trayvon" whitey beatings and assaults. These people have been so whipped up into a frenzy. There is no rationale, no critical look at what happened. It's now a full throttle rage-filled movement. I don't see it stopping. Just wait until Zimmerman is acquitted, which I think he will be. More white people will be beaten, possibly killed.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2012 10:01 AM (OpijJ)

268 The VAWA legislation wasn't only about
"protecting"women. This bill also expanded protection to
includeundocumented immigrant, LGBT, and Native American victims of
abuse. Senate RINOs whined about it but failed to get the expanded
provisions removed.



Pussies.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2012 08:45 AM (4q5tP)



In other words this "law" protects everyone but white heterosexual men. I wonder if it covers white Hispanics or old ladies who are raped and beaten to death

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 10:02 AM (1Jaio)

269 the president supports a country that wants to lower the marriage age to 14 and promotes necrophilia

don't forget...he's eaten a dog....that's 3 strikes people......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:02 AM (Ho2rs)

270 lady in black

the did get the memo about george actually being black didn't they?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:02 AM (Ho2rs)

271 As I [Gov. Walker] have repeatedly explained, I believe that drug testing state employees is a common sense means of ensuring a safe, efficient and productive workforce ...
------
"Common sense?" No, political scoring says to do it, not common sense. Common sense would say the government should get out of the business of "services and productivity", and give the money back.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 10:03 AM (UpwlP)

272 That is exactly what it is. "unreasonable search by the government on private citizens".

They aren't private citizens Jimmah, they are employee's of the entity giving the test.

Where is gets muddier is if the State wanted to test everyone receiving welfare benefits.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:03 AM (WkuV6)

273 262 Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2012 09:50 AM (i3+c5)

**

I don't know, wouldn't surprise me. Adult males are allowed to have sex with baby girls if they do it the "right" way. Don't know why these mofos are so uptight about homosexuality when they allow sex with every other creature, alive or dead.
Posted by: kallisto at April 27, 2012 09:59 AM (jm/9g)


Especially considering they come from a region notorious for homosexual rape.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 10:03 AM (niZvt)

274
Now it's an "event" to piggyback an old shuttle to NYC to gather dust on the deck of an old WW2 aircraft carrier.

Isn't that where they have an SR-71 that is falling apart on display? I know there's one on display on some carrier that's a total mess from sitting out in the weather for years. It's a crying shame.

I can see the same thing happening to the shuttle.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:04 AM (7+pP9)

275 265, need more robots

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:05 AM (WkuV6)

276 Let me be clear; Osama bin Laden is not a fugitive from justice, hiding on the down low with either Auntie Zeituni or Uncle Onyango.

Posted by: President Cool Cat at April 27, 2012 10:05 AM (/ZZCn)

277 the did get the memo about george actually being black didn't they?

He's black, white and Hispanic. Makes for quite a bit of confusion on who should beat whom.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2012 10:05 AM (OpijJ)

278
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2012 09:35 AM (TomZ9)

FWIW, I've always wondered if this is just fall out from the fact that we don't have a good test for "currently high" for most drugs, the best we can do is "drugs in system within the last X hours" (or in the case of hair "X days/months.")
Consider that for Alcohol tests they just make you blow and see what your current EtOH level is, there's no equivalent for most other drugs.
(Blood tests for other commonly used drugs are far less accurate than EtOH tests from my understanding due to route of adminstration among other things.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 27, 2012 10:06 AM (22rSN)

279 That is exactly what it is. "unreasonable search by the government on private citizens".They aren't private citizens Jimmah, they are employee's of the entity giving the test.
----
Yes, but that entity is the state, and the state is subject to the constitution. Just because private companies get away with something, doesn't mean the state does.
BTW - when I worked for someone else I was all for drug testing. The more the better. It just moved people above me out of my way.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 10:08 AM (UpwlP)

280 Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 09:47 AM (ztIQE)

Interesting. Did you use anything to help you stop smoking?

The reason I ask, is when I was first in college and away from home I gained a lot of weight, for all the wrong reasons.

So I went on a strict diet, did away with carbs and sugar, using Sweet and Low instead. It worked, and I lost the pounds.

Weird thing is, I also lost all craving or want for sugar. To this day I don't want sweets. Cake, candy, you name it. It's kind of like my brain was re-wired. So I'm just wondering if you had any kind of substitute for smokes.

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 10:08 AM (KB0hv)

281
Ed, I think I would know all about benzos.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 10:00 AM (APmL9)


Are you an M.D.?

I've been prescribed several flavors of them and I can tell you the differences between them are far more pronounced than what you'll find described in the PDR.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:09 AM (7+pP9)

282 Remember that d-bag air traffic controller who fell asleep in the tower, forcing the planes to figure out their own way down? My Obama-voting BIL is an ATC and when I asked if the guy got fired he just laughed no and launched into a spiel about how the incident proves that ATC's need more time off between shifts and more money to incentivise better people to do the job. Sure enough I later read about millions of Fed dollars going to "research" the issue of slackers who can't make it through an 8 hour shift without napping.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2012 10:09 AM (hiMsy)

283 Isn't that where they have an SR-71 that is falling apart on display? I know there's one on display on some carrier that's a total mess from sitting out in the weather for years. It's a crying shame.

I can see the same thing happening to the shuttle.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:04 AM (7+pP9)

Is it falling apart? That is a shame. I drive by the Intrepid alot but have not been on it in years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 10:10 AM (i6RpT)

284 In retrospect, we should have known the space program was circling the drain when John Glenn used his position as a Senator to get himself sent to space again at age 80 or whatever it was.

It was hard to take space explortion seriously, after that.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 10:11 AM (niZvt)

285 http://tinyurl.com/c9vzrne

anyone know about this?

Posted by: . at April 27, 2012 10:11 AM (oZfic)

286 Posted by: . at April 27, 2012 10:11 AM (oZfic)


Not clicking that.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 10:12 AM (NG097)

287
(Reuters)
- More than 1 million Americans who have taken out mortgages in the
past two years now owe more on their loans than their homes are worth,
and Federal Housing Administration loans that require only a tiny down
payment are partly to blame.

That figure, provided to Reuters by tracking firm CoreLogic, represents about one out of 10 home loans made during that period.
"The overwhelming majority of the U.S. is still
seeing home prices decline," said CoreLogic senior economist Sam Khater.
"Many borrowers continue to be quickly wiped out."

And the number of homeowners falling under
water each month has decreased significantly since the peak of the
financial crisis in 2008 and early 2009.
Still,
Khater said, since October 2010 average home prices have fallen 7.4
percent. Overall, CoreLogic data shows that 11.1 million, or 22.8
percent, of U.S. residential properties with a mortgage are in negative
equity, unchanged from the summer of 2010.






Comrades the economy has never been better. The recovery is moving full steam ahead.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 10:13 AM (1Jaio)

288 I can see the same thing happening to the shuttle.

Posted by: Ed Anger

Absolutely, esp. since the Shuttle wasn't designed to be stored in the weather for extended time periods.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:13 AM (WkuV6)

289 The Trayvon thing is about money. Heard on the radio on my way in that Al Sharpton was talking about a Foundation where "all the money will go to the family". Ummmm, what do they need all that money for? Burial costs would be around $10k for a pretty nice funeral/service. Past that? Trayvon wasn't supporting anyone like a wife and kids. Me thinks lots of this "Foundation" money will end up in Al's pockets.

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at April 27, 2012 10:14 AM (bj+Nc)

290 #266

NASA has been enjoying mission creep for far too long. They were the ones that investigated stuck Toyota accelerator pedals...and lets not forget about Hansen, and his climate alarmism. NASA should focus it's efforts, and limited budgets on things that fly, and things that go into space, (but mostly things that go into space). Nothing else. If the EPA wants a damned satellite to stare at the earth, fine, they budget for it, and pay for it. NASA can do the heavy lifting, but they should operate as a supplier, and money to fund such programs should come from the requesting agencies.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 27, 2012 10:14 AM (L7hol)

291 Sidebar says "Biden" when it means "Clinton" passed on killing Bin Laden.

The irony is that whole commercial is like, "What would have happened had Obama not said go for it?" And just think about how much heat Obama would have taken had we killed the wrong guy.

Let's see, we've killed a whole bunch of wrong guys since Obama has been in office, but that aside, isn't he patting himself on the back for basically not screwing up?

Worse, though, is that had they not killed Bin Laden, we'd still have a sick Bin Laden sitting in a room re-living his glory days and watching Internet porn. It's only in terms of Obama's campaign, therefore, that this was that tough of a call: the wrong move he either kills an innocent guy or let's Bin Laden live--both of which would have hurt Obie's re-election chances, but not affected the US all that much.

In contrast--and this the big point--Clinton's not killing Bin Laden allowed the WTC to happen.

As usual, WJC has balls o' brass to spin that interview.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 27, 2012 10:15 AM (XXy2R)

292
Are you an M.D.?<<<

End user. And based on that you seem to find nothing wrong with your friend combining alcohol, benzodiazepines and Percocets as a sleep aid, I think it's safe to say a more knowledgeable one.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 10:15 AM (APmL9)

293 Oh shit, I just beat a real honest-to-Lenin Russian in chess. Isn't that like their national sport?

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 10:15 AM (I2LwF)

294 Human sleep cycles are hard to defeat. The problem is a management issue. The overnight guys need tasks, change overs, and oversight -- usually management just forgets them and lets the shift be as boring as possible.

For Example, Why not have shift change at 3AM?


Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:16 AM (WkuV6)

295 Interesting. Did you use anything to help you stop smoking?
Posted by: HH

I used Chantix.


It actually took me 2 times to stop with it, as I had tried before and stopped taking it after blacking out one night while drinking on it.

And I am not talking about drinking a lot. Maybe 4-6 beers over the course of 4 hours.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (ztIQE)

296 Me thinks lots of this "Foundation" money will end up in Al's pockets.

Sharkskin suits and pomade don't pay for themselves.

Posted by: Cicero at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (E99n6)

297 286
Posted by: . at April 27, 2012 10:11 AM (oZfic)



Not clicking that.


Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 10:12 AM (NG097)



You are wise. That's probably one of curious ghey pron sites.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (UOM48)

298 293, Yes but so is drinking, what time is it over there?

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (WkuV6)

299 Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:09 AM (7+pP9)

That's called anecdotal evidence and is worth exactly...nothing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (nEUpB)

300 Oh shit, I just beat a real honest-to-Lenin Russian in chess. Isn't that like their national sport?


He'll be a better player after his 8th birthday.

Posted by: fluffy at April 27, 2012 10:18 AM (z9HTb)

301 He'll be a better player after his 8th birthday.

And less drinking would help. Little kids just can't hold their vodka.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 10:19 AM (NG097)

302 Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (ztIQE)

Well, you are obviously an alcoholic and need immediate intervention. And we will be passing a law soon that forbids bartenders from serving more than one drink every two hours.

Posted by: Bloomberg's jack-booted thugs at April 27, 2012 10:19 AM (nEUpB)

303 290, remember NASA only exists because some people were concerned about the image of space being dominated by the DoD. That image concern is a piss-poor reason to establish a bureaucracy.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2012 10:19 AM (WkuV6)

304
Vic:

It's good to know that sleeping on the job isn't tolerated at an operating nuke.

But during their construction -- well, that was a different story. I knew a welder at Berwick who said people regularly slept in the toolboxes. I also knew a guy who worked there for 10 years building it. He'd clock in every morning, leave and work at his private contracting business and return to clock out. In 10 years he was never caught.

I'm glad they do a stringent quality analysis on them before they start them up.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:20 AM (7+pP9)

305 #293

Vodka is their national sport.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 27, 2012 10:20 AM (L7hol)

306

But, you can click this:

http://tinyurl.com/7vsrprl

Jaw dropping? I wouldn't go that far, but fun stuff for a Friday miscellaneous.

Posted by: linkiest this month at April 27, 2012 10:20 AM (HOOye)

307 More than 1 million Americans who have taken out mortgages in the past two years now owe more on their loans than their homes are worth, and Federal Housing Administration loans that require only a tiny down payment are partly to blame.

I was watching an HGTV program a couple weeks ago and wanted to puke. A young couple looking at 400-500k homes. FHA etc. I think they had to put something like 4.5% down. I wanted to scream at them. That's an accident waiting to happen. Average price of home in my neck of the woods -- which is in that price area -- has lost 100k since Obama took office.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 10:20 AM (phlKA)

308 help michelle's wish come true....let her walk out of the white house in january 2013 and keep on walking.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:22 AM (Ho2rs)

309 C'mon, it's probably not gay pr0n. It might be a link to Rush Lindbaugh.

Posted by: , at April 27, 2012 10:23 AM (ggRof)

310 breadlines is the national sport of russia

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:23 AM (Ho2rs)

311 Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:23 AM (Ho2rs)

Killing journalists is very popular in Moscow. Maybe not a national sport, but a strong regional one.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (nEUpB)

312 (And I'm the most pro-space exploration person
this side of a Star Trek convention, but it seems like NASA has been
running in circles since the Apollo program ran down.)

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 10:01 AM (gPDxp)


Exactly. Like CoolCzech stated it's served mainly as a platform for senile fuck John Glenn who should be rocketed directly into the Sun unless he pays off all the vendors that got shafted by that deadbeat's quixotic Presidential run that had all the chances of success that the other Ohio lunatic Kucinich's did. First of all, they need a coherent direction and it's probably not manned travel unless it's to mine asteroids. Second, they need to put the simpletons that came up with mooooslim outreach on the same Sun-bound rocket as Glenn, along with that fossilized dogshit in Mecca that the rock worshipers hold in such high regard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (g8py2)

313 I used Chantix.


It actually took me 2 times to stop with it, as I had tried before and stopped taking it after blacking out one night while drinking on it.

And I am not talking about drinking a lot. Maybe 4-6 beers over the course of 4 hours.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 10:17 AM (ztIQE)

I know some folks have had luck with Chantix, but I am of the opinion that it should be pulled. Way too many folks I know who used it had nasty suicidal impulses. And my SIL plus two of her friends used it for a few months a few years ago to try and stop smoking before a wedding. All three of them now have MS. I know that sounds nuts, but I am dead serious. 3 different and totally unrelated women suddenly started having MS symptoms within 6 months of using Chantix and all three were diagnosed with it within a year. My hubby smokes and he will not be using Chantix to quit after all that.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (qFpRI)

314 I have a friend who was born in the ME and worked as a translator for the Marines in theater.
He is convinced OBL is alive. Why, he say, do all that training (with the mock up, etc.), send in more men than needed for a simple kill, and take the extra risk to carry back a dead body? When the same amount of effort would bring him back alive. Especially given the huge amount of information he will give up.
He also points out that all SEALs are well-qualified medics and any one on the team would have the necessary knowledge to accurately drug OBL enough to knock him out for the time needed to transport. Meaning there is at most 20 guys in the whole world who would know the truth and real mission.
He says there are a lot of other holes in the story as a guy who was privy to a lot of classified information.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (kSaUf)

315
And based on that you seem to find nothing wrong with your friend combining alcohol, benzodiazepines and Percocets as a sleep aid, I think it's safe to say a more knowledgeable one.

I said the exact opposite:

So he chills out at night with a couple of glasses of wine, some benzos and percocets. All perfectly legal. It's also far more likely to kill him or wreck his organs than smoking some pot.

You can try again if you want.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (7+pP9)

316 Lol. Geraghty has this link to Christian Science Monitor about Mitt getting into in a plane on the tarmac with a rapper from LMFAO.


In fact, Sky Blu says Romney drew first blood. Well, he said Romney grabbed him after angrily telling him to move his seat up.
"He
grabs my shoulder .. and I just react BOOM get off me!" Blu told the
video camera. "He put a condor grip on me. What am I supposed to do?"
"That's like a Vulcan grip," offered his bandmate Redfoo.
"Like a Vulcan grip," Blu concurred. "I'm not your prey. I'm not a salmon going upstream. You're not going to grip me up."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 10:26 AM (UOM48)

317 1 Good Morning Morons. Today is FRIDAY March 27, 2012. On this day in 1861 Abraham, Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and began jailing reporters, editors, and the entire MD legislature without charges. Some stayed in jail for as long as 2 years.

Posted by: Vic at April 27, 2012 06:51 AM (YdQQY)

Yes, and THIS is why I consider him the greatest President Evah! And want to emulate him!... but I want to do one better... Lincoln only destroyed the South's economy and he is remember as the Shiznitz! Think of how I will be remembered when I destroy the WHOLE countried economy.

Posted by: Precedent Obuma at April 27, 2012 10:26 AM (lZBBB)

318 that fossilized dogshit in Mecca that the rock worshipers hold in such high regard.

-----------

Hey! Is that any way to refer to the First Woman Speaker of the House?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 10:26 AM (gPDxp)

319 Oh, and the story about Mitt and the rapper was a few years ago.

Vulcan grip. Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 10:27 AM (UOM48)

320 The SCOAMF is giving Romney donors a little 'Chicago Style' intimidation.

http://tinyurl.com/7rgpdug

"This past week, one of his campaign websites posted an item entitled "Behind the curtain: A brief history of Romney's donors." In the post, the Obama campaign named and shamed eight private citizens who had donated to his opponent. Describing the givers as all having "less-than-reputable records," the post went on to make the extraordinary accusations that "quite a few" have also been "on the wrong side of the law" and profiting at "the expense of so many Americans."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2012 10:29 AM (gPDxp)

321 Burt Sugarman says that this thread could use more real music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7n4G5f1A4

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 27, 2012 10:32 AM (ztIQE)

322 Hote-tempered Detroit Tigers slugger Delmon Young was arrested early this morning after he allegedly went on an anti-Semitic tirade and attacked a man in front of a Midtown hotel, police sources told The Post.
A panhandler wearing a yamulke approached a group of people to ask for some change — and that's when Young, who was nearby, started shouting, "F--king Jews! F--king Jews!"
That's when another man and a group of his friends got into a confrontation with Young at about 2:40 a.m. that quickly turned physical along Sixth Avenue, law enforcement sources said.


Well he should get a warm welcome tonight in Yankee Stadium, especially from all da Jooos there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 10:32 AM (i6RpT)

323 The SCOAMF is giving Romney donors a little 'Chicago Style' intimidation.



I read that this morning. I hope Satan took a few minutes when he wasn't shredding Daniel Schoor's anus with his barbed cock to inform him that there's a new "enemy's list" that he's not on. And that the JEF isn't even trying to hide it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2012 10:32 AM (g8py2)

324 Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (qFpRI)

That's just...Weird.

How can you get a disease from a drug?

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (KB0hv)

325 120 Obama eats dogs



Is that slang for something? I can never keep up with these things.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock With No Name at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (B2fm1)

326 #318

Hey! Is that any way to refer to the First Woman Speaker of the House?

Her daily beauty regimen includes first exfoliating with 80 grit sandpaper, followed by a good scrub down of her leathery outer layers with saddle soap, and finishing up by moisturizing with the blood of virgins.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (L7hol)

327 Isn't that where they have an SR-71 that is falling apart on display? I
know there's one on display on some carrier that's a total mess from
sitting out in the weather for years


I toured the Intrepid in August 2010 and the SR-71 seemed to be in decent shape then, although to be fair you can't tell a lot about it from below. Definitely a fun afternoon for aerospace or military geeks.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (tqwMN)

328
Abusing prescription drugs in combination with alcohol is not "perfectly legal."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 10:34 AM (APmL9)

329 help michelle's wish come true....let her walk out of the white house in january 2013 and keep on walking.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:22 AM (Ho2rs)

She just wants to shop till she drops ,or something.Actually I could understand not having privacy to do as you want. alone. Still it's part of the job when wanting fame and accolades. reminds me of hollywood stars punching the camera man they wanted focused on them prior to becoming famous.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2012 10:34 AM (TomZ9)

330 Nothing smells quite as good as the aromatic hydrocarbon pollution at 300 times the EPA permissible standard tickling the smell receptors in our noses in the morning quite as well as the odor of cooking pancakes, frying bacon, maple syrup in the chill air of autumn, polluting our living spaces and mingling with the scent of fresh brewed coffee as we decide whether to snuggle under our covers or wake and greet the day.

tl/dr, Oh my, the smell of cooking pancakes, frying bacon and fresh brewed coffee in the morning!

Posted by: onlyme at April 27, 2012 10:35 AM (ThE2s)

331 Posted by: Ian S. at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (tqwMN)

If your ever out in the California Central Valley... may I suggest the Castle Aerospace Museum... near Merced CA.

Its on the old Castle SAC Base... and is a great place, that no one knows about.. all run by the Air Force retirees who homesteaded here when the base was open.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 27, 2012 10:38 AM (lZBBB)

332 is it me or does bill hemmer sound creepy talking about the enterprise.......something about his voice this morning........yuck

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2012 10:38 AM (Ho2rs)

333 I once thought a funny news story would be to start a company, and implement a drug test for which you must test positive for drugs in order to be hired. I haven't thought it out further than that. But if I ever see someone actually do that, I will laugh.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 10:38 AM (UpwlP)

334
Abusing prescription drugs in combination with alcohol is not "perfectly legal."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2012 10:34 AM (APmL9)


Having a glass or two of wine after taking prescribed medications is illegal?

Are you sure about that?

I know for some medications it's not recommended, but I never knew it was illegal.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 27, 2012 10:39 AM (7+pP9)

335 Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 10:38 AM (UpwlP)

We pretty much already have those out here in California.... Pot shops...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 27, 2012 10:40 AM (lZBBB)

336 We pretty much already have those out here in California.... Pot shops...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 27, 2012 10:40 AM (lZBBB)
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LOL, got popped on the drug test down at the dispensary.
Oh?
Yeah, I tested negative.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 10:42 AM (UpwlP)

337 316
"He put a condor grip on me. What am I supposed to do?"

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So, can we expect action figures with Kung-Fu Grip from the Romney campaign now?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2012 10:42 AM (6fER6)

338 324 Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:25 AM (qFpRI)

That's just...Weird.

How can you get a disease from a drug?
Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 10:33 AM (KB0hv)

Well, it sounds weird, I know. But the way a lot of drugs used in psychology work is by blocking specific receptors in the brain. The intention is to try and balance out a disturbed person's brain chemistry so that they can function normally. But the problem is that the brain is a lot more complicated than chemical x = depressed. Too much of Chemical x can lead to depression but chemical x may also help you balance out other emotins or what not. So completely blocking a neural receptor may help with depression or whatever, but can also affect other areas of emotional (and sometimes physical) processing. For a concrete example, see most anti-depressants. One of the potential side effects for most anti-depressants is decreased libido or impotency. Because the chemicals it blocks in your brain also help to regulate your sexual functions.

So, it's not far-fetched that a chemical that would block receptors that affects desire to smoke and the pleasure you get from that action, like Chantix does, could also affect other physical functions and dependent on how long you use the drug and/or it's potency, it could lead to developing some kind of other disease because your body isn't getting the chemicals it needs to regulate those other functions.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:43 AM (qFpRI)

339 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2012 10:32 AM (i6RpT)

**

Any White Hispanics whose last name sounds Jewish play for NY?

Posted by: kallisto at April 27, 2012 10:43 AM (jm/9g)

340 Time for a new posting Ace. Your getting lazy lately. We need Monty back also.

Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2012 10:43 AM (Gx3Fe)

341 Behold, our friends on the tolerant left

link in sig

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 10:44 AM (I2LwF)

342 Your morning (oZfic).

600 lbs., watery, and smells terrible.

Posted by: Pink Bunkadoo at April 27, 2012 10:44 AM (nwL1o)

343 And that was a very, very basic explanation. Neurological functions are a lot more complicated than what I described, but I tried to keep it simple.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:44 AM (qFpRI)

344 phoenix girl... God no.. that man is smokin hot.

Posted by: jewells45 at April 27, 2012 10:48 AM (l/N7H)

345 New thread up.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 27, 2012 10:48 AM (phlKA)

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Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 27, 2012 10:49 AM (WUWb9)

347 Man. The fucking Jew hate is just beyond me. My own mother was prejudiced against Jews. When I asked her why she really didn't have much of an answer. When pressed, she would say they killed Christ. My answer to that was that the Romans killed Christ, who was himself Jewish, so why don't you hate Romans? Since she could never give me a valid answer, I decided it was some kind of choice, at least in her case, and I wrote it off as bullshit. I still think it was bullshit.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 10:50 AM (OlN4e)

348 Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker at April 27, 2012 10:43 AM (qFpRI)

Well, if that's the case, then I'll keep on smoking.

Cancer vs. MS.

Hmmm...

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 10:51 AM (KB0hv)

349 "I still think it was bullshit"

Jesus had to die. That is why he existed. Doesn't matter who killed him.

Posted by: HH at April 27, 2012 10:54 AM (KB0hv)

350 I've thought that if dru testing ever came to my company i'd refuse to give them a sample, but i'd be happy to sell them one for $50.
I'd even throw in a sperm sample for an extra $.07

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 27, 2012 11:12 AM (SO2Q8)

351 Research on the attention of crowds, crystalization, tipping points, from the 1960's has been revisited and updated. I'm not seeing what you are seeing ... one page, from ArsTechnica :http://tinyurl.com/7zmc2tc

Posted by: And Irresolute at April 27, 2012 11:26 AM (RC3M9)

352 "A judge in Florida has blocked Gov. Scott's order that state workers get drug tested."

lemme guess, more than one person in this thread has already said they're A-OK with this. cuz you know, like, freedom 'n stuff.

Posted by: Antitarian at April 27, 2012 11:50 AM (60GaT)

353 honestly fuck freedom anyway know what i's sayin'. fascism > phony libertarian paradise

Posted by: Antitarian at April 27, 2012 11:54 AM (60GaT)

354 Of course the judge blocked it. Next thing you know, they might decide to test judges for drugs, and then where would we be?

(Google Judge Baumgartner.)

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (XXy2R)

355 I see the Don Surber has hung it up after 7 years of blogging.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2012 12:24 PM (e8kgV)

356 I'm confused...

So if you don't have PROOF of a drug problem with employes you can't test.

But you can't get the proof without the test, can you? How else do you PROVE the problem exists?

Did their State Constitution get transcribed with Catch-22 in the middle of it or something?

Oh well, at least the people presumably on drugs aren't doing an important job where how (or even if) they do their job matters. One of them could keel over dead from a heart attack tomorrow and you wouldn't see any change in worker output for weeks (if at all).

Posted by: gekkobear at April 27, 2012 12:24 PM (X0NX1)

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