Washington Post: We Placed a Story About ObamaCare Increasing the Deficit on Page 3 Because We Didn't Want It To Go Viral

What?

You -- wait, I had it, then I lost it. You had a scoop and you didn't want people to notice it?

Huh?

Washington Post columnist Patrick Pexton made a rather startling admission in the paper’s Sunday edition: The Post never meant for their recent story about how President Obama’s health care law expands the budget deficit to become a viral Internet sensation. In fact, they deliberately tried to bury the story.


Putting the story (inside the paper) on A3 was the right judgment for a print publication. (Story author Lori) Montgomery urged her editors, correctly, not to put it on the front page: it wasn’t worth that.

....

Pexton, the Post’s resident ombudsman (an in-house critic-scold for those not familiar with journo-speak), admits that they are ambivalent about this success, calling story’s popularity a reflection of our “our reactive, partisan, hyperventilating media culture.”

ObamaCare is one of the most important issues this cycle, in terms of both public interest and actual importance. Sometimes the two aren't in sync -- Kim Kardashian's sexual exploits get more coverage than they warrant, obviously.

But here they are in sync. This issue is both objectively important and is of great interest to the public.

Here, a study demonstrates that a central selling point of ObamaCare -- that it will reduce the deficit -- is a lie, or, to put it less harshly, completely wrong, and that the critics were right -- it will increase the deficit.

And the Washington Post thinks that's an A3 story, at best?

And they worry about the reaction from "partisan" critics? What is the fear? That partisan critics will shout out, "We were right!"?

Well, uh, why shouldn't partisan critics shout out "We were right"? We were.

Is this too much for the Washington Post to admit?

Of course it is.

While the Washington Post fears hyper-charged partisans outside the walls of its offices, hyper-charged partisans have already established a dominant position within those walls.

This story sums up everything that is wrong with the media, and why it is dying -- and why it should die.

The media is no longer in the information business.

They are in the instruction business.

This is an important distinction.

If you're in the information business, your stock in trade is information. You have no particular concern about how that information will be received, or interpreted, or used for making political arguments. That's not your business-- you are in the business of data, not Narrative and not the internal contents of your readers' minds.

You are not your readers' minders, nor their tutors: You stand equal to them. They are citizens are you are citizens; you have no special insight into The Truth, and they no special disadvantage in discovering The Truth.

Now, if you're in the Instruction business, things are quite different. You stand not as an equal with your readers, but as a Teacher. And, worse yet, they are Children in need of your guidance.

You cannot just offer information willy-nilly to children. You cannot tell them, for example, that the odds of a heterosexual, non-intervenous drug user contracting the AIDS virus are trivially low, or they will Draw The Wrong Conclusions from this.

You must be protective of Children, who are, in final analysis, incompetent (legally as well as actually) individual who need to be told what to think and how to think. You cannot give them license to think whatever they like, for they are not mature enough for that.

They haven't yet learned the skill of thinking.

Thus, everything you tell a child must be with rounded corner and soft padding. Children are dangerous, after all, to themselves and others, if not properly minded at every moment.

Why do people -- and not just strong partisans, but most anyone who isn't a diehard liberal partisan -- hate the media?

Because of this, this belief of the media that we wish or need their Instruction in ordering our lives and ordering our thoughts.

But they are determined to do just that.

Why is every terrorist story underplayed, at least after the media can no longer pin it on a Tea Partier? They are afraid of what their fellow childlike, incompetent readers will think, and what they will do. So they have to make sure you mentally-retarded ward-of-the-state adults don't do anything rash.

Ditto every story involving a black criminal. You can't possibly handle that information; you didn't go to the right colleges. Only if you are educated to the media's satisfaction can you be trusted with a story about black criminals.

This isn't even restricted to news -- the media's strong belief that it is the Thin Black and White Line between semi-retarded barbarians from Idiocracy and civilization is present in films and fictions, too.

Every goddamned movie is a children's movie, with a soporofic, corporate-approved Moral (don't hate strangers; be yourself!).

Even movies for adults. Especially movies for adults.

This is called "being responsible." It's also called "being condescending" and "making infantile, bad art," but they prefer "being responsible."

The media will die, and it deserves to die.

Frankly, no one in the media is terribly intelligent. These people selected a career which involved a fair amount of social skills and a goodly amount of Wearing Make-Up on TV, and not so much deep thinking, for a reason.

There are relatively few people in media who would have succeeded in a field requiring deep thinking.

Although a lot of people enter the media industry from deep-thinking fields, I am aware of not a single reporter who has exited his industry to pursue a medical or engineering degree.

I don't know about you but I'm getting a little sick of people who couldn't break 550 on the Math SATs presuming to lecture me about what I should think about data.

By the Way: I'm not actually a complete "We're all equal" populist.

I have elitist tendencies.

It's not that I don't think there's a group of people who could be termed a Cognitive Elite.

It's just this:

I know for a fact the media is not well-represented among them.

I ain't sayin' there ain't smart people.

I'm saying, Media, very specifically: They ain't you.

Posted by: Ace at 04:32 PM



Comments

1 What a country!

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 17, 2012 04:34 PM (5bf/4)

2 The whole "you guys on the right were correct, we were wrong" apology from the Washington Post is gonna be awesome!

Waiting...

Posted by: Dang at April 17, 2012 04:34 PM (Ky1+e)

3 So can we call them the Pravda media now?

/oh wait, is Pravda independent now? How about the Gobbels media?

Posted by: shibumi, extentialist at April 17, 2012 04:35 PM (z63Tr)

4 This story sums up everything that is wrong with the media, and why it is dying -- and why it should die.

Slowly ... in a Brazen Bull.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:38 PM (X3lox)

5 Damn mask. Keeps slipping.

Posted by: Roy at April 17, 2012 04:39 PM (VndSC)

6 "Yes, it's true. They have no dick."


.........Dr. Peter Venkman

Posted by: Hopped up on Something at April 17, 2012 04:39 PM (WCuHB)

7 When you actually pay attention to what they are teaching your kids in pubic skrool, it is frightening.

Every parent should observe their kids class at least a few times a year. Oh wait, the unions voted that out on a contract 20 years ago.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 17, 2012 04:39 PM (5bf/4)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:39 PM (8y9MW)

9 Posted by: Hopped up on Something at April 17, 2012 04:39 PM (WCuHB)

That's what I heard.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:40 PM (8y9MW)

10 Same issue with gun control laws. And salt laws. And most of nanny-state governance.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2012 04:40 PM (vjyZP)

11 You are not your readers' minders, nor their tutors: You stand equal to them.

Unless it's a matter of national security. Because the America-haters in the media know better than anyone what's in American security interests. It's only espionage if a Russkie does it secretly ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:40 PM (X3lox)

12 You're all children, and the media and politicians must treat you as such. Otherwise, you know, "Lord of the Flies".

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2012 04:41 PM (vjyZP)

13 I demand to know why Ace hasn't posted my Rush Lindbaugh story! Are you selfish bitches ignoring me?

Posted by: dally, who does not enjoy telling the truth at April 17, 2012 04:41 PM (ggRof)

14 Ace, You need to take care of your health. You're too valuable to peg out too early.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2012 04:42 PM (40V+c)

15

You people are too stupid to understand that this isn't a big deal, and that Obama's vision of healthcare is good and benevolent. So we had to bury it.

But we did it for you. Because you are all stupid.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2012 04:42 PM (sWycd)

16
Hell..... Im suprised they PRINTED the story.


How many stories get the ctl-alt-del and never see the light of day???

You know..... like the new spring offensive in Afghanistan. American Embassies attacked. NOT ONE EFFIN HEADLINE in teh MFM cause it might make O'STUMBLEFUCK look bad.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2012 04:42 PM (C8hzL)

17 Every so often, it's helpful to learn what some 26 year-old J-school fucktard thinks I should have for opinions.

Posted by: Cicero at April 17, 2012 04:42 PM (QKKT0)

18 Nothing to see here. Move along, move along. A trillion here, a trillion there. Why squabble over details?

Posted by: Cricket at April 17, 2012 04:42 PM (DrC22)

19 Is 550 bad?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2012 04:43 PM (KNvk+)

20 Nothing surprises me anymore.

What is the Moron signals at the future camps, again?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky ABO 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:44 PM (baL2B)

21 Is 550 bad?

-----

Well, not for two rounds of bowling.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (C8hzL)

22
It's funny, I was at the post office today dropping off my fucking 1040 and noticed the USA Today in the kiosk.

On the front page...IRS FACES CUTBACKS, DELAYS IN RETURNS BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I'm sorry, but I am fairly sure those assholes are hiring 15000 more agents for enforcement.

How does that shit make it onto the front page if there isn't an agenda...are they stupid, possibly...are they assholes, most definitely...do they give a shit, nope, not a bit...


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (tcSZb)

23 Is 550 bad?

IIRC, it's about dead average. But it's been a while since I took the SAT, so I could be remembering wrong.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (8y9MW)

24 If you like your Insurance Plan you can pay out your assfor a little while, butI still won't let you keep it.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (6hAEO)

25 It's bad enough that they give instruction. What really sucks is that it's all wrong.

Posted by: Cicero at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (QKKT0)

26 THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS!

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 04:45 PM (evdj2)

27 What is the Moron signals at the future camps, again?

SCOAMT

Or one of Radish A Radish's "SCOAMT-iest" songs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:46 PM (8y9MW)

28 Shut up, we explained.

Posted by: The Washington Post at April 17, 2012 04:46 PM (5Rurq)

29 Is 550 bad?

Out of 700? That's 79%. Not quite a B. But historically where's 550 on the Bell Curve?

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at April 17, 2012 04:46 PM (NkKml)

30 WaPo can't even report the truth properly.

Posted by: Strunk & White at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (c3mby)

31 Free Lunch not Free, Study Finds.



Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (mg08E)

32 >>>IIRC, it's about dead average. But it's been a while since I took the SAT, so I could be remembering wrong.

I wouldn't say it's bad.

I would say if you're going to presume to Instruct me as to the proper method of synthesis of data, I'm a-gonna want to see you crack at least a 650.

Posted by: ace at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (nj1bB)

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (NkKml)

34 out of 800.

Posted by: ace at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (nj1bB)

35 admits that they are ambivalent about this success, calling story’s
popularity a reflection of our “our reactive, partisan, hyperventilating
media culture.”


Why aren't you fucking rubes paying attention to what I think is important?

Posted by: WaPo Ombudsdick at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (rND5e)

36 Out out, damn sockpuppet!

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (NkKml)

37 Yeah, I'm amazed it was A) written, and B) published.

Anyway, isn't it usually the fervent hope that *any* article published goes viral, that people read it, and notice it, and talk about it, and send it to their friends?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (zgHLA)

38 Is 550 bad?


Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2012 04:43 PM (KNvk+)


It's "meh".

Barky could crack 440 on the SAT Math section. Guaranteed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (X3lox)

39
The media is no longer in the information business.


They are in the instruction business.


This is an important distinction.








Yes it is.

Posted by: mama winger at April 17, 2012 04:47 PM (P6QsQ)

40
"So can we call them the Pravda media now?"

You may use my phrase, The Progressive Pravda.

Kindly send all copyright fees to the email address listed at my website.

You're welcome.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (d0Tfm)

41


Posted by: Winston Wolfe at April 17, 2012 04:46 PM (NkKml)


Out of 800.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (X3lox)

42 Doesn't actually cover everyone? Check.
Costs more than projected even though it's not even in place yet? Check.
Some parts have already been declared unworkable? Check.
Cronies allowed to opt out? Check.

None of these facts about the largest peacetime intervention into the U.S. economy are newsworthy.

Hey look, Sarah Palin's email archive!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (7utQ2)

43 We'll decide. We'll report. We'll decide again. You FOAD.

Posted by: The Post-Journalism Post at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (jUZRg)

44 I was told there would be no math on this blog.

Posted by: dudeonbreak at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (BRa9r)

45 What is the Moron signals at the future camps, again?

Ewok dance.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 17, 2012 04:48 PM (rND5e)

46 >>I'm saying, Media, very specifically: They ain't you.

B students.

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 04:49 PM (5H6zj)

47 Out of 800.
and you gett 200 for showing up.

Posted by: dudeonbreak at April 17, 2012 04:49 PM (BRa9r)

48 out of 800.

OK. More like a C-. But again, where is 550 on the Bell curve?

Yes, I'm using the Bell curve. I'm racist and I denounce myself.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2012 04:49 PM (NkKml)

49 I know funny!

Wanna come up for some pancakes?

Posted by: Elitist Tendancies of ace at April 17, 2012 04:50 PM (Zs83Q)

50 Serious question (separate from the validity of this particular story): I thought IBD was a somewhat suspect source. Seems like I've read dismissals of links to that site here before. What's the consensus?

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 04:50 PM (5H6zj)

51 All yourombudsman are belong to us.

Posted by: The Firm at April 17, 2012 04:51 PM (eavT+)

52 SAT score were adjusted some time in the mid-90s (and since then as well). So depending on which particular year is the frame of reference for Ace, a 550 could be "not bad" or "kind of below average".

Posted by: wooga, who got an 800 math, su fuck all y'all at April 17, 2012 04:51 PM (vjyZP)

53 As I tell my wife after she insists on watching CBS news: You now know less than if you had watched no news at all.

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 04:52 PM (evdj2)

54 The truth is out there. The truth is also hyper-partisan.

Posted by: Fox Mulder at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (jUZRg)

55 The MFM is in the unformation business.

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (evdj2)

56
just wondering whatissue was so much more important that itoccupied the front page that day?

Posted by: kj at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (zdvxY)

57 Wolf Blitzer, Sooper Genius, was beaten by a gerbil and an amoeba on Jeopardy.

Anyhow, what's the frequency Kenneth?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (ccXZP)

58 SAT scale goes from 200 to 800 IIRC.

So a score of 500 is middle of the pack.

That would be a GOOD score for the WashPostians. They think hiding something on A3 keeps it hidden.

Posted by: Boots at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (neKzn)

59 550= meh. 500 is the cut off for most non selective colleges. Most science and engineering programs want to see at least 600.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (1jtwO)

60 The media have been in the instruction business since the Vietnam War. They ceased being able to hide that with the advent of cable news and the internet.

Posted by: Rocks at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (Q1lie)

61 Yes, I'm using the Bell curve. I'm racist and I denounce myself.

Seriously, 550 is either SD0 or SD-1. It's about as close to "average" as you're likely to get. As some mentioned, you seriously can get a 200 just for knowing your name and marking "c" for every answer.

So, functionally, it's a 350 out of 600. If you want to think of it that way.

I think Ace's point is that people of decidedly average intelligence should not be presuming to tell me what to think, let alone how.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (8y9MW)

62 Dug up the 2006 edition of where a 550 score gets you.

Links to a pdf file.

http://tinyurl.com/6t6u3pn

A 550 in math is the 53rd percentile for men, 66th percentile for women. Also broken don by race.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 17, 2012 04:54 PM (NkKml)

63 They think hiding something on A3 keeps it hidden.

It works for the NYTimes. Buying the Times is about being seen buying the Times, not reading it.

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 04:54 PM (evdj2)

64 SAT score were adjusted some time in the mid-90s
(and since then as well). So depending on which particular year is the
frame of reference for Ace, a 550 could be "not bad" or "kind of below
average".


Posted by: wooga, who got an 800 math, su fuck all y'all at April 17, 2012 04:51 PM (vjyZP)


It might be easiest to say that it's far below average for any decent school.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:54 PM (X3lox)

65 SAT's use to max at 1600. Now it's 2400....800 per section.

Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2012 04:55 PM (X6akg)

66
>>> Serious question (separate from the validity of this particular story): I
thought IBD was a somewhat suspect source. Seems like I've read
dismissals of links to that site here before. What's the consensus?

IBD is a great paper, I don't know where you heard that.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2012 04:55 PM (sWycd)

67 Wonder if Bob Beckel will be on The Five today after his F-bomb explosion last night and refusal to apologize?

And WaPo can suck it, along with their commenters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2012 04:55 PM (UOM48)

68 From wiki:

The mathematics section also saw a dramatic change in 1994, thanks in part to pressure from the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics.
For the first time since 1935, the SAT asked some non-multiple choice
questions, instead requiring students to supply the answers. 1994 also
saw the introduction of calculators into the mathematics section for the
first time in the test's history. The mathematics section introduced
concepts of probability, slope, elementary statistics, counting
problems, median and mode.[25]
The average score on the 1994 modification of the SAT I was usually around 1000 (500 on the verbal, 500 on the math).

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2012 04:55 PM (vjyZP)

69 Its because you now learn Journalism, in school... from 'Profesors' who have an agenda... and most of whom have never been in the actual working media...

Its not like the old days, where a reporter was hired, and then some hard nosed editor rode them for years until they got their chops...

Thus, they parrot what they have seem those supposed 'Journalists' (the Profesor set) do.... they instruct.... not report...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2012 04:55 PM (lZBBB)

70 >>>I think Ace's point is that people of decidedly average intelligence should not be presuming to tell me what to think, let alone how.

yes. the entire industry seems possessed of this farcical notion that they are the Cognitive Elite with a special facility at thinking.

Can I see some actual evidence of this, apart from mere implication (or outright assertion)?

This special Elite Cognitive Ability should have demonstrated itself previously, in some verifiable, quantifiable form, prior to graduation from J-School, yes-yes?

Posted by: ace at April 17, 2012 04:56 PM (nj1bB)

71 >>IBD is a great paper, I don't know where you heard that.

I thought I've seen folks chastising Gotham Princess when s/he links to it.

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 04:56 PM (5H6zj)

72 Wednesday, November 7, 2012
*
Page A3Washington Post:
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Romney wins by a landslide; woman, children andthe poorhardest hit.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (eavT+)

73
@67 he apologized then in typical lefty fashion proceeded to blame it on Hannity

Posted by: kj at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (zdvxY)

74 This special Elite Cognitive Ability should have demonstrated itself
previously, in some verifiable, quantifiable form, prior to graduation
from J-School, yes-yes?


Heck, I'd take "after J-School." They don't even have that, most of them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (8y9MW)

75 If you graduated high school after 1998, you are retarded by default.

And if you graduated high school before 1980, you are too old for teh internets. Go back to aol.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (vjyZP)

76 One of the things I expect from my church is instruction. Instruction in morals and ethics and living a Christian life. This is expected, and by my participation in it, I am agreeing to it. They have an obvious agenda, one I have voluntarily signed on to. There is a transparent bias.

I have no problem with organizations or businesses that have an agenda, as long as the agenda is clear and public. What I do not like is to be told I am getting information when what I am really getting is someone else's dogma. The media needs to be clear as to the religion it is preaching.

Posted by: mama winger at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)

77 >>yes. the entire industry seems possessed of this farcical notion that they are the Cognitive Elite with a special facility at thinking
-----

Just as the Theater (excuse me, Theatre) Set always think they have the corner on Creativity. Another group of B students.

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (5H6zj)

78 I'm really not trying to be elitist here.

I'm saying: If you are a member of the credentialed elite, WHERE THE HOLY F*** ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS OF ELITE STATUS?

Posted by: ace at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (nj1bB)

79 Id be shocked if Obama cracked 550 in either subject. We know he wasn't impressive on the psat since he wasn't a national merit semifinalist.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (1jtwO)

80 The Washington Post journolisters don't wanna upset the golden child by printing the truth, it might hurt their place in the White House cock sucking line.

Posted by: Drew in MO at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (KeFbr)

81 Ace, I think you may be giving the Establishment media too much credit.

Perhaps the more naive and sincere of them believe that they are instructing inferiors, but I think that mostly they are just cynical manipulators seeking to advance a fun-house view of the world.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (IlZPo)

82 J School is for people who couldn't hack wimmenz studies majors.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (jucos)

83 Oh and the SAT has been re-normed several times since the 1970's.

What that means is that the scores started to decline across the board, so when that would happen they changed the grading criteria so that answering fewer questions correctly resulted in a higher score than would have been achieved in the 1970's by answering more questions correctly. Got it? Good.

Posted by: Boots at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (neKzn)

84 If you graduated high school after 1998, you are retarded by default.

I can agree with that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Class of '98 at April 17, 2012 04:59 PM (8y9MW)

85 I doubt very seriously if anyone in the liberal media came close to 550 on the math. If average is around 500, then think about 400.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 17, 2012 04:59 PM (KNvk+)

86 I took the SATs in 1981. 550 in Math was slightly better than average from my recollection at that time. 600 was considered pretty good.

Posted by: Rocks at April 17, 2012 04:59 PM (Q1lie)

87 yes. the entire industry seems possessed of this farcical notion that
they are the Cognitive Elite with a special facility at thinking.


And it so far from the truth. They aren't average. They tend to be idiots. The lowest rungs at the universities, though the education departments make the journalists feel good about themselves. No one with a brain takes them seriously in person.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 04:59 PM (X3lox)

88
The People's Cube is teh funneh.

Check out this "If I Had a Son..." pic

http://tinyurl.com/7ppywo8


Posted by: soothie at April 17, 2012 04:59 PM (G/zuv)

89

I know for a fact the media is not well-represented among them.

I ain't sayin' there ain't smart people.

I'm saying, Media, very specifically: They ain't you.
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Well...... fuck you too!!!!

Posted by: Bob Beckel at April 17, 2012 05:00 PM (C8hzL)

90
As soon as the Journolisters got away from "who, what, when, where and why" to "I'm gonna change the WORLD!!1!!!!!" is right about the time newspapers and TV news became what it is today.

I agree with the Furry Fellow: let it die. It will have been by their own hand.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 17, 2012 05:00 PM (d0Tfm)

91
Id be shocked if Obama cracked 550 in either subject. We know he wasn't
impressive on the psat since he wasn't a national merit semifinalist.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (1jtwO)


"profits AND earnings ratios"
"reduce your monthly premiums by 3000%!"

As I say, Barky didn't see north of 440 on the Math section. No doubt, at all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 05:00 PM (X3lox)

92 >>We know he wasn't impressive on the psat since he wasn't a national merit semifinalist.

IIRC that list somewhat depends on your state.
Good scores in one state may not cut it in another.


(Usual disclaimer that Obama is a SCOAMF applies.)

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 05:00 PM (5H6zj)

93 Well fuck-a-duck slap me up side the head and call me Barky! That's not a flaw, it's a feature. The deficit was too small in my opinion.

Posted by: Barky O'McFuckstick at April 17, 2012 05:01 PM (JNbb1)

94
by funneh, I mean creepy

Obama's mini-me-jesus is creepy.


Posted by: soothie at April 17, 2012 05:01 PM (G/zuv)

95
56 just wondering whatissue was so much more important that itoccupied the front page that day?
Posted by: kj at April 17, 2012 04:53 PM (zdvxY)


Let's have a look. It was April 10th. http://tinyurl.com/8y9rnf7

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:01 PM (GULKT)

96 >> This special Elite Cognitive Ability should have demonstrated itself
previously, in some verifiable, quantifiable form, prior to graduation
from J-School, yes-yes?

Let me sum up the problem with this Venn diagram of those possessing special elite cognitive ability and J-School attendees: O O

Posted by: Andy at April 17, 2012 05:01 PM (5Rurq)

97 Id be shocked if Obama cracked 550 in either subject
ISWYDT

Posted by: dudeonbreak at April 17, 2012 05:02 PM (BRa9r)

98 As I say, Barky didn't see north of 440 on the Math section. No doubt, at all.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out he barely cracked 200- at least, judging by those two statements.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Class of '98 at April 17, 2012 05:02 PM (8y9MW)

99 I think Barry hired a Pock-ee-stahni boyfriend to take the SATs for him.

Posted by: mama winger at April 17, 2012 05:03 PM (P6QsQ)

100 Ag school is where the cognitive elite congregate. If you can figure out how to inseminate a cranky bull without getting a horn up your ass, you can figure out American monetary policy.

Posted by: Keef Olbermann at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (QKKT0)

101 Not only are they not that bright to begin with but they aren't even taught skills that might maximize whatever intelligence they do possess.

They either come out of the communications schools which takes dumb blondes and teaches them corporate English, or they come from the J schools where they adopt an ideology and learn how to frame stories.

Posted by: runninrebel at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (N/1Dm)

102 O/T: Well I may have to look seriously into this Life Lock company. Not only did they hang tough re Rush (last I checked on their FB page), but I also just got an advertisement for them via the Newt Campaign. (Obviously they've rented their list and, no, I don't mind at all.)

Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (5H6zj)

103 If the Washington Post had put that story on the front page, there would have been riots and at least half a dozen Muslims pulled from their mosques while praying for peace and murdered in cold blood by vengeful Tea Partiers.

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (iVS2n)

104 ace:elitist::ewok:_____

Posted by: Bubba Radish at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (/kI1Q)

105 Posted by: ace at April 17, 2012 04:56 PM (nj1bB)

Their arrogance comes from two factors: the first is that they confuse being articulate with being smart. I know many people who sound wonderful -- a few of them have the intelligence to back it up. And in reality, they aren't even articulate; they just regurgitate what is being spoken to them in their earpieces or read what is on the teleprompter.

The second is the liberal distatse for skills that require physical labor. The farther from the hammer and saw and wrench, and the people who wield them, the more perceived intelligence is required. So sitting in the newsroom searching the internet for stories is indicative of greater intelligence than building a gabled roof running in two or three directions.

They are, of course, almost 100% incorrect, but hell, they are libs -- facts never intrude.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 17, 2012 05:04 PM (nEUpB)

106 ace the post you did a couple of days ago re the SS detail and hookers , in that case it was AP journOlists wanting to publish but waiting to get permission to do so,
I don't know if you noticed the admission in the article.

Posted by: willow at April 17, 2012 05:05 PM (TomZ9)

107 So I wonder if they ever ran the "AND It Will Actually REDUCE The Deficit" story on the front page.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 17, 2012 05:05 PM (rX1N2)

108 News Alert: Warren Buffett taking leave of absence due to State 1 prostate cancer.

Posted by: Vic at April 17, 2012 05:05 PM (YdQQY)

109 Soooo... what amazing, timely story wound up knocking this snoozefest off page A1?

Posted by: hindmost at April 17, 2012 05:06 PM (t6Jvs)

110 Wolf Blitzer on Celebrity Jeopardy tells you all you need to know about j-school graduates.

Posted by: no good deed at April 17, 2012 05:06 PM (mjR67)

111

OT

Warren Buffett diagnosed with Stage 1 prostate cancer. He will die of old age and not the cancer.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 17, 2012 05:06 PM (TkGkA)

112 Same thing as the publishing business being mad at Amazon for selling affordable books. They don't mind us rubes getting information, they merely want to control precisely what and how much of it we get. Anything else might resemble freedom of thought.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2012 05:07 PM (TOk1P)

113 I wouldn't be surprised to find out he barely cracked 200- at least, judging by those two statements.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Class of '98 at April 17, 2012 05:02 PM (8y9MW)


You know the guy can't comprehend anything about mathematical word problems, translating a ratio/division to "and". It is retarded. Literally.

I doubt he can really do any fractional arithmetic. He seems to have no concept of percentages, at all. I laugh every time he makes some speech about anything complex and people act as if his opinion is to be taken seriously. Then it infuriated me, because it's been so clear for so long how incredibly stupid he is.

You're correct. My 440 Math call is a definite ceiling, and likely well out of Barky's realm of possibility.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 05:07 PM (X3lox)

114 71 I thought I've seen folks chastising Gotham Princess when s/he links to it.

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Folks chastise Gotham Princess when she links *anything*. Or when she doesn't, for that matter.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 17, 2012 05:07 PM (IrbU4)

115 News Alert: Warren Buffett taking leave of absence due to State 1 prostate cancer.

Here's wishing him the best. I don't care who you are: F*ck Cancer.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 05:07 PM (8y9MW)

116
109 Soooo... what amazing, timely story wound up knocking this snoozefest off page A1?
Posted by: hindmost at April 17, 2012 05:06 PM (t6Jvs


See my link at 95. Make sure its on April 10th.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:08 PM (GULKT)

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:08 PM (iVS2n)

118 Posted by: Boots at April 17, 2012 04:58 PM (neKzn)

One of our brats took the SATs last year, and during her prep for it I got the daily question e-mailed by ETS and asked her about it each day. In the several months I was getting them, I never missed a verbal question and only missed 2 math questions because there was no way I was going to use a pencil. And I was no math whiz in high school or college.

The shit has definitely gotten significantly easier.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 17, 2012 05:09 PM (nEUpB)

119 What struck me most about the story was that the author was arguing to have her piece put on A3 instead of the front page. That seems off.

Also, much like the LA Times and the Khalidi tape, they're not in the information dissemination industry, its ... something else.

Posted by: BuckIV at April 17, 2012 05:09 PM (AtjNL)

120 National Merit does vary by state. No way Hawaii is very competitive.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2012 05:09 PM (1jtwO)

121
71 >>IBD is a great paper, I don't know where you heard that. I thought I've seen folks chastising Gotham Princess when s/he links to it.
Posted by: Y-not at April 17, 2012 04:56 PM (5H6zj)


That's because when she links it, its to an article about how Trig Palin is not really Sarah's child.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:10 PM (GULKT)

122 See my link at 95. Make sure its on April 10th.
Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:08 PM (GULKT)

Thanks; thought I had read the whole thread.

Posted by: hindmost at April 17, 2012 05:10 PM (t6Jvs)

123

>> WHERE THE HOLY F*** ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS OF ELITE STATUS?

The importance of "credentials" is actually part of the problem. Left wingers award other left wingers "credentials", and they in turn flaunt their credentials as proof of their elite status.

Fuck credentials. They lack wisdom and any sense of a classical education.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2012 05:11 PM (sWycd)

124 I'll say this for the Washington Post. Ar least they are not as bad as the NY Times.

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 17, 2012 05:11 PM (i6RpT)

125 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 05:07 PM (8y9MW)

Can I wish him well with the proviso that he shuts the fuck up?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 17, 2012 05:12 PM (nEUpB)

126 Face Workers and Soft Hands.

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 05:12 PM (evdj2)

127
Some ewoks are more equal than others.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 17, 2012 05:13 PM (UvwYZ)

128 There are relatively few people in media who would have succeeded in a field requiring deep thinking.

That's an understatement. I'd say that there are relatively few people in media who would have succeeded as plumbers.

Posted by: Iowa Jim at April 17, 2012 05:13 PM (N+9a4)

129 I got 700 on the math. Suck It Bitchz

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 17, 2012 05:14 PM (SO2Q8)

130

Is there are anything about profit and earnings ratios on the SATs?

Stocks are beginning to look like a good deal, if you've got a long term prospective on it.

My advice is to invest in lemon mines, or dam and levee stcosk for when the sea levels rise.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at April 17, 2012 05:15 PM (tcSZb)

131 My favorite thing to say is the think about news reports that are about your area of expertise and how much crap they get wrong. And then remember that they are doing that about every other area.

Hell they'd probably even write an error filled article about journalism.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:15 PM (GULKT)

132 I don't know where, but I remember reading that the best reporters didn't come out of J-schools, but were history and poli-sci majors.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 17, 2012 05:15 PM (UvwYZ)

133 Can I wish him well with the proviso that he shuts the fuck up?

Sure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 17, 2012 05:16 PM (8y9MW)

134 That's an understatement. I'd say that there are relatively few people in media who would have succeeded as plumbers.
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It's tougher that it looks i tell ya

Posted by: G Gordon Liddy at April 17, 2012 05:16 PM (SO2Q8)

135 When talking about the elites you have to keep in mind the Evan Sayet theory on Libreal and what he call "The Cult of Indiscriminate" If any Moron has not seen the video I think it is mandatory viewing.

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at April 17, 2012 05:16 PM (8ac7j)

136 >>I'd say that there are relatively few people in media who would have succeeded as plumbers.

Plumbers? They could almost manage to be fry cooks, if they were well-supervised and portions were pre-measured for them.

Posted by: Bubba Radish at April 17, 2012 05:17 PM (/kI1Q)

137 Someone should sue. if I were a shareholder I would sue management over this. As mentioned above, this is a business and the are in the making money through information business. If someone is saying hey lets make a little less money so we are able to help obama getting less revenue it is a breach of their fiduciary responsibility.

sure they have supermajority control but it would amusing to watch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 17, 2012 05:18 PM (Z9EHQ)

138 Video Here

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at April 17, 2012 05:18 PM (8ac7j)

139 Things you will never hear:

I can handle quantum mechanics just fine, but journalism? Man, I don't know how those guys do it.

Posted by: pep at April 17, 2012 05:18 PM (6TB1Z)

140 Okay, in all seriousness, part of the problem here is that the media really IS elite when compared to the average person.
They aren't elite comparedtothe readers hereon this site, but the average IQ here is much, much higher than for the general population.
When you're smart like ace and some of the other people here, it's easy to forget just how stupid the average person is. Think about it--the average IQ is somewhere around 100. Ace is probably between 130-140. Your typical journalist, just spitballing here, 110-120.
I'm not saying that the arrogance of the media is warranted, but it's easy to see yourself as vastly superior to the general populace if you're willing to overlook the smaller percentage of people who are actually a whole helluva lot smarter and more talented than you.

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:18 PM (iVS2n)

141 I don't know which commenter here said this first, but it was wise:

If you look at the news through the prism of the fact that the MSM's job through November is to re-elect the SCOAMT, everything makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Palandine at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (g7D8V)

142
Is there are anything about profit and earnings ratios on the SATs?


No ... but there are word problems asking about driving at "65 minutes AND hours" on the highway. Barky got those questions right, for sure.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (X3lox)

143 131 -

Amen, that's as good an indicator as anyone would need, and yet we still seem to have it in our heads that if we read something, it must be true. I think I read somewhere that it's hard wired into our DNA.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (TOk1P)

144 Fucking formatting.

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (iVS2n)

145 J-school is kindergarden with better AV equipment. The U. of Missouri J school might be the worst ( rivaling USC )


it's not just The Stupid; it's also the infantile Marxism mash together with PC crap and geeky irksomeness

Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( Cognitive Elite member ) at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (Dll6b)

146 I can't wait to see the Post get skewered for this tonight on The Daily Show. That Jon Stewart really keeps them media folk honest!

*crickets*

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at April 17, 2012 05:19 PM (RN90h)

147 Speaking of National Merit Scholars and Obama ( who is not one) , I did not know that Jeri Ryan was a National Merit Scholar.

Posted by: mama winger at April 17, 2012 05:20 PM (P6QsQ)

148 Video here, take two http://tinyurl.com/7ju5jgq

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at April 17, 2012 05:20 PM (8ac7j)

149 They lack wisdom and any sense of a classical education.

Posted by: dan-O at April 17, 2012 05:11 PM (sWycd)

Why would we want to be indoctrinated into your antiquated, heteronormative, imperialistic, repressive culture perpetuated by the Patriarchy?

Suck it neanderthals!

Posted by: ________ Studies Elitist at April 17, 2012 05:20 PM (rX1N2)

150 Your typical journalist, just spitballing here, 110-120.


I'm just not seeing that.

Posted by: toby928 at April 17, 2012 05:21 PM (evdj2)

151 The NYT/CNN/WaPo School of Journalism rules:

1. Who -- A person's name, but if they can be linked to conservatives/republicans/tea partyers be sure to add R-Scumbag.
2. What -- Here's your chance to shine reporters; spin is 'in' when it comes to liberals and their doings.
3. Where -- It can be the hallowed halls of acadamia or the trailer trash of the Deep South; descriptors count.
4. When -- Report it right now if there's blood or an R to smear; liberals deserve a little 'private time' to get their stories straight so let that byline cook for a few weeks first. Sometimes it's better not to report it at all.
5. How -- This is usually a good place to put the blame on Bush, Cheney, or the evil Jooooos.
6. Why -- This always boils down to hateful conservatives or wonderful liberals. Always. Get to boiling.

With these useful guidelines, you too can report like a pro.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2012 05:21 PM (ccXZP)

152 New post up. Meanwhile I just finished an outstanding ribeye with fried vidalia onions and a big salad.

Posted by: Vic at April 17, 2012 05:21 PM (YdQQY)

153 144 -

I was gonna say something about the correlation between IQ and properly formatting a comment, but that wouldn't be nice.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2012 05:22 PM (TOk1P)

154 >> My favorite thing to say is the think about news reports that are about
your area of expertise and how much crap they get wrong. And then
remember that they are doing that about every other area.

Michael Crichton called that the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect. The mainstream media's business model is utterly dependent on it.

Posted by: Andy at April 17, 2012 05:22 PM (5Rurq)

155 Ace is probably between 130-140.
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When sober

Posted by: G Gordon Liddy at April 17, 2012 05:23 PM (SO2Q8)

156 "Don't put anything interesting on the front page! It might help us sell papers!"

Fleet Street these guys are not.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at April 17, 2012 05:23 PM (XZWie)

157 Finally FoxB,Willis Report compared Buffett tax to AMT

Posted by: Vic at April 17, 2012 05:24 PM (YdQQY)

158
My favorite thing to say is the think about news reports that are about
your area of expertise and how much crap they get wrong. And then
remember that they are doing that about every other area.



Hell they'd probably even write an error filled article about journalism.

Posted by: buzzion at April 17, 2012 05:15 PM (GULKT)


I do that too buzzion. Usually stops them in their tracks.

Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2012 05:24 PM (X6akg)

159 typical journo-homo is maybe 90-95 ( when he/she's not high, or highly distracted

Posted by: SantaRosaStan ( Cognitive Elite member ) at April 17, 2012 05:24 PM (Dll6b)

160 Their arrogance comes from two factors: the first is that they confuse being articulate with being smart.


CBD-
I know what you meant, but they aren't even close to articulate. There was an old show on PBS (yeah, I know) in which Hahvahd law prof types interviewed folks, including journalists, about "big issues". I was astonished at how much difficulty folks like Rather and Jennings has in formulating even simple responses to rather obvious questions. Considering that they are supposed to be at the apex of their profession, it was enlightening.

BTW, when did ink-stained wretches become "journalists"? I figure it was about the time that teachers became "educators". Both are equally meaningful.

Posted by: pep at April 17, 2012 05:25 PM (6TB1Z)

161
ace your a dumass even gradded using a bell jar lol

Posted by: Trollworth J Fuckwhistle at April 17, 2012 05:26 PM (QSizi)

162
As soon as the Journolisters got away from "who, what, when, where and why" to "I'm gonna change the WORLD!!1!!!!!" is right about the time newspapers and TV news became what it is today.



Ah, the Woodward-Bernstein effect.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 17, 2012 05:26 PM (yEQr9)

163 Firstly, reporters lie about everything. And liberals, BIRM.

Secondly, Ace, do you ever wonder how a discussion like this becomes a discussion of SAT scores instead of the slimy, lying, mediocre press corpse we're stuck with?

Somebody probably wrote a paper about that in a science journal. But I bet they got the science wrong.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 17, 2012 05:26 PM (bxiXv)

164 Only about 27% of Americans even graduate from college. I'm not saying college = high IQ, but it's a rough proxy.

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:26 PM (iVS2n)

165 Could you imagine if this lot was running the paper in 1941? Japs bomb Pearl Harbor would have been in the middle of the paper as not to stir up anti-Japanese feelings. Of course the headline and story would have been Japanese strike blow against western imperalism and the fear of backlash against the Japanese

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2012 05:27 PM (qVk8S)

166 The Washington Post still is being published??

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 17, 2012 05:28 PM (f8XyF)

167 Journalists would be absolutely shocked to know how little we value their opinions. They are supposed to be there to give us the facts. When they express opinions then not only are they giving us something of absolutely no utility they are detracting from their value as a source of facts. When we see how poorly they reason and how brazenly they show their bias then we are left to wonder if the "facts" they publish are actually facts.

The shell game the Dems played with Medicare funds was not a secret. All the press had to do was publish the fact and then get out of the way back when the original debate occurred. Coming clean on page 3 several years after the fact is not going to cut it in an age where we have information at our fingertips from other sources.

This, in a nutshell, is why they deserve to go out of business.

Posted by: Voluble at April 17, 2012 05:28 PM (c8WV/)

168
When reading the word "journalist", more and more often I am seeing "pornolist".

Am I alone in this?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2012 05:29 PM (HmCnI)

169 Has Kim Kardashian engaged in dirty, filthy sex with Tupac's hologram yet?

Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2012 05:30 PM (KWdVT)

170
I had to take an entrance exam to get into a four year Catholic High school in 1963. I had just finished a Catholic grade school. I was told I had "snuck" into"A", or"advanced track". There were three tracks, "A", "B" and C, which we called"Dumbo".
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The competition was tough in A track. I always wondered how the kids in C (Dumbo)track felt but never dared ask any of them.
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Pre-PC days...


Posted by: Barney Frankfurter at April 17, 2012 05:31 PM (Usk3+)

171
I don't know about you but I'm getting a little sick of people who
couldn't break 550 on the Math SATs presuming to lecture me about what I should think about data.


I've got bad news for you, Ace. Someone scoring 550 on the math SAT in all likelihood has been awarded a degree to teach math in the K-12 schools. Yeah...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2012 05:31 PM (HmCnI)

172 When reading the word "journalist", more and more often I am seeing "pornolist".

Am I alone in this?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2012 05:29 PM (HmCnI)

listen there is no reason to impugn porn by linking it with journalists. the porn industry provides a useful product with specific benefits and results for their customers. they d oa days work for a days pay the their customers get what they paid for - more or less. journalists are not able to make any of those claim s .

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 17, 2012 05:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

173 Plus NM has a black scholar program with lower standards. Obama didn't get that either.

Posted by: Lauren at April 17, 2012 05:32 PM (1jtwO)

174
170
There were three tracks,
"A", "B" and C, which we called"Dumbo".
Posted by: Barney Frankfurter at April 17, 2012 05:31 PM (Usk3+)


There's plenty of supporting evidence, but, based on his ears alone, Barky was, is and will forever be, a "Dumbo".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 17, 2012 05:34 PM (HmCnI)

175 Aint aint got no apostrophe.

Posted by: Cognitive Super Elite, sippin' warm beer on the porch at April 17, 2012 05:37 PM (yn6XZ)

176
If you graduated high school after 1998, you are retarded by default.

And if you graduated high school before 1980, you are too old for teh internets. Go back to aol.


Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2012 04:57 PM (vjyZP)
GIT OFFA MY LAWN, whippersnapper!Class of '79.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 17, 2012 05:37 PM (z1N6a)

177 Lying assholes, the lot of them.

Posted by: eureka! at April 17, 2012 05:39 PM (81yf8)

178 Poor Jayson Blair must be pretty confused as to why he was fired if the criteria actually was factual reporting.

Posted by: ontherocks at April 17, 2012 05:39 PM (aZ6ew)

179 incidentally, the guy whose black flag quote is emblazoned upon your banner was one of the starkest and most shameless elistists of the 20th century.

there's something to be said for putting the people with the best educations at the helm...ceteris paribus, people make "better" (to whose betterment i leave up to the reader's particular inclination toward cynicism) decisions with more information than with less.

the problem is, the ceteris isn't paribus after a few generations of too much money and coddling...the children of the children of elites are often flung much too far from the tree to carry on.

Posted by: jimi ray at April 17, 2012 05:45 PM (FcOR4)

180 the problem is, the ceteris isn't paribus after a few generations of too
much money and coddling...the children of the children of elites are
often flung much too far from the tree to carry on.


If anyone doubts that, look at the British upper class.

Posted by: pep at April 17, 2012 05:46 PM (6TB1Z)

181
Only about 27% of Americans even graduate from college. I'm not saying college = high IQ, but it's a rough proxy.

Posted by: Warden at April 17, 2012 05:26 PM (iVS2n)

Ha ha ha ah ha! ----
That's a good one! ---

Posted by: Oldcat at April 17, 2012 05:48 PM (z1N6a)

182 Facts. How do they work?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2012 05:48 PM (T0NGe)

183 Damn, Ace. That was a primo rant.

Posted by: maddogg at April 17, 2012 05:53 PM (OlN4e)

184 I've got bad news for you, Ace. Someone scoring 550 on the math SAT in all likelihood has been awarded a degree to teach math in the K-12 schools. Yeah...


I don't think so. My Mom got into college at sixteen, and graduated at nineteen. She earned her B.S. with a 4.0 in Zoology. She struggled with the K-12 math cert. In her district, the days of the football coach slacking their way through a math class are over.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2012 05:56 PM (gyQY/)

185 Wall Street Journal has a great piece up (linked in Powerline) about a class Bob Woodward teaches in J school. He brings up a question: how would Watergate have been covered if the internet was around then? He said the answers nearly gave him an aneurism: the students are all lazy googlers rather than reporters. They check news sites and leftist blogs and that's where they get their news. Basically they are gen y slackers on top of being indoctrinated leftist twits.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 17, 2012 05:57 PM (r4wIV)

186 GIT OFFA MY LAWN, whippersnapper!Class of '79.


Posted by: Oldcat at April 17, 2012 05:37 PM (z1N6a)
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You don't say.

Posted by: Class of '69. at April 17, 2012 05:59 PM (YdQQY)

187
The MSM is no longer in the information business.

They are in the propaganda business for the democratic party.

Posted by: Jack at April 17, 2012 06:03 PM (zKFOT)

188 Archduke Ferdinand shot, you say? Hmmm. Bump it to page three in the international section. In between the adverts for spats and mustache cream. Let's move "Advancements in Buggy Whips" to lede the front page.

Posted by: Washington Post at April 17, 2012 06:03 PM (eHIJJ)

189
That's why I became a journalist, so that I could write stories and then beg the editor not to put them on the front page.
(#119 +1!)

Posted by: Lori Montgomery at April 17, 2012 06:04 PM (DSLg4)

190 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 17, 2012 06:04 PM (7W3wI)

191 What does the square root of isoceles triangle got to do with my opinion on anything? And let me tell you sonny, my 550 in the 70's is probably a trillion to the tenth power under today's lax and communist grading.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at April 17, 2012 06:13 PM (qwK3S)

192 I had a really hard question way back when, it was:

If Charlie Brown Kicked Linus how far up Lucy's ass would Snoppys head go?

I think I got it wrong.

Posted by: Barky O'McFuckstick at April 17, 2012 06:22 PM (IzqW/)

193 "(Story author Lori) Montgomery urged her editors, correctly, not to put it on the front page:"

These people are absolute idiots. In my time in journalism every reporter, and me, figured every friggin word they wrote should be on page one, with a big headline.
I wonder how it feels to make it to a major paper and be a fool.

Posted by: wyatt ironbridge at April 17, 2012 06:26 PM (4A6cY)

194 Ditto every story involving a black criminal. You can't possibly handle
that information; you didn't go to the right colleges. Only if you are
educated to the media's satisfaction can you be trusted with a story
about black criminals.


This reminds me of the Swedish "We are absolutely not racist" stories.

They are well-informed because they say that they are well-informed.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2012 06:30 PM (T0NGe)

195 Send Fredo to cover a mall opening, send Fredo to cover some accident at the airport!

I can report things! I'm not dumb like Ace says, I'm SMART and I want respect !!!

Posted by: Fredo the Reporter at April 17, 2012 06:34 PM (Y+DPZ)

196 Once in a while I get a telemarketing call to subscribe to the newspaper;

Telemarketer: "For just 8 dollars a week, you get our award winning coverage"

Me: "What award? Cy Young? Best Picture, Miss Congeniality?"

Telemarketer: "It's an award"

Me: "You don't know? If I won third place in the county bean dip cooking contest, I'd know what it was for"

Telemarket: "It's on my script. Do you wanna subscribe or not? I don't have a lot of time"

Me: "But you thought I'd have a shitload of time to listen to you read off a computer screen?"

Telemarketer: "Click"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2012 06:44 PM (Y+DPZ)

197 My accountant got a 650 English SAT, 550 Math so instead of doing a 1040 we just write a lengthy letter explaining how 'we' did this year and we enclose any gift cards we have with a balance on them. So far (this is the first year and I just filed Monday) it's working out.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at April 17, 2012 07:04 PM (ocHBO)

198 So in other words, the cost overruns are "True but False"?

Posted by: Fenway_Nation at April 17, 2012 07:28 PM (rlV5D)

199 My happiest day will be when the journalists end up burning their diplomas to stay warm.

Posted by: sifty at April 17, 2012 07:32 PM (uGQ4X)

200 "It's not that I don't think there's a group of people who could be termed a Cognitive Elite."

Oh, they exist, but they still ain't smart enough to Run Things.

No one is. It's called the knowledge problem.

Posted by: Ken at April 17, 2012 07:54 PM (7yb9x)

201 Was this a movie review?

Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 17, 2012 08:10 PM (cYMja)

202 But but but, they gave us Jenifer Rubin so we are suppose to STFU now or something. Fucking Retards.

Posted by: Rich K at April 17, 2012 08:17 PM (X4l3T)

203 " they will Draw The Wrong Conclusions from this."

Reminds me of Piglet, who liked to talk about being a Very Small Animal etc. Winnie the Pooh capitalisation. Which makes me a capitalist, 'cause I like Winnie the Pooh.

Talk about random. Green Spot. Good Irish whiskey.

Posted by: HiHo at April 17, 2012 11:01 PM (KTSwy)

204 I'm reading this post ... and I have the weirdest boner right now.

Posted by: someguy at April 18, 2012 02:29 AM (sEXZ/)

205 Ace, thanks for making a terrific distinction! It also implicitly touches on the abandonment of any pretense of being objective. In our post-modern world these folks believe thetruth is what they want it to be, especially if they believe it serves an end they feel is moral and justified. Just don’t ask themto objectively defend this position because, you know, objectivity is such a 20th century, out-of-fashion notion!

Posted by: Henry Scuoteguazza at April 18, 2012 07:16 AM (rasT+)

206 Reminds me of the Kitty Genovese murder. not only did the news media blame the people in the neighborhood of indifference to her killing but they hid the fact the killer was a raciest black who was out to kill a white women that night.

Posted by: big c at April 18, 2012 07:42 AM (nWnIs)

207 Well said, Ace!

Posted by: RebeccaH at April 18, 2012 12:21 PM (JAQT9)

208 Mainstream media types, esp the reporters and an ever-growing number of editors, are the second-lamest bunch of room-temp IQs around.
Public school teachers are a bit worse.

Posted by: Marty at April 19, 2012 06:49 AM (S9Zhd)






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