Paul Ryan: I'm Totally Not Thinking About Being On This Ticket As VP. But, While We're On The Subject, Let Me Drop A Bunch Of Sweetly Crafted Sound-Bombs On Barack Obama's Petulance and Failures.

He said:

“You know, we’ve gotten kind of used to this sort of verbal tantrums from the president. To me it’s a little more petulance than presidential,” Ryan told NBC. “He’s trying to use this kind of rhetoric to distort away from his failed record.”

Hey, he can't help it if you're thinking about him as VP, right?

In related news, William Kristol's erection just hijacked a plane.

But most of the talk recently is about Rob Portman. Who, I have to admit, I don't know at all.

He served in Bush's cabinet, and as a Congressman and then Senator from swing-state Ohio.

And Romney apparently likes him.

Still, the rap on him is that he's not exciting or charismatic. Which Romney obviously needs, or at least strongly wants.

More: A Dozen Democrats Have Told Me They Support My Ryan/Wyden Compromise on Entitlements. More news from Paul Ryan, claiming bipartisan support, though now, with an election looming, it's kept secret from voters.

Which is, of course, the Democratic Way. Please deliver this information to Vladimir Putin.

“There are a number of Democrats but I don’t want to name their names, because I don’t want to get them in trouble,” he said. “I’ve had 12 come up to me and say, ‘I love what you’re doing with Ron [Wyden],’” he said. As for going public with their support, Ryan said the Democrats told him: “No way, I’ll get killed.”

“I’m not going to out Democrats who I believe are in office, who are favorably disposed to these ideas, for their own sake and for the sake fo getting this consensus realized,” Ryan said at the gathering hosted by Bloomberg View in Manhattan Tuesday morning…

“We hopefully will be in the position to realize this consensus, and include those Erskine Bowles, Ron Wyden, Alice Rivlin Democrats, and bring them into that coalition,” he said.


Posted by: Ace at 04:18 PM



Comments

1 Can you just picture the debate between Ryan and Slow Joe........oh god, it would make the beat down Larry Holmes gave Ali look kind and merciful.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 10, 2012 04:19 PM (OWjjx)

2 Tantrum? Please tell me he used the word Tantrum.

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2012 04:20 PM (yqQnV)

3 I'm getting kinda puffy right now.

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:20 PM (OhYCU)

4 Rob Portman got some love from Insty, Powerline, or one of the co-bloggers at some point. I remember the name coming up in a good way for some reason.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at April 10, 2012 04:20 PM (KCvsd)

5 Indeed, he did.
I don't know what Breitbart was talking about...sometimes reading the post id the key.

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2012 04:20 PM (yqQnV)

6 In related news, William Kristol's erection just hijacked a plane.



Prose like this is why I keep coming here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 10, 2012 04:21 PM (UOM48)

7 Didn't Portman have a shoplifting problem?

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2012 04:21 PM (yqQnV)

8 Paul Ryan as VP would be a terrible waste.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 10, 2012 04:21 PM (JxMoP)

9 "Tantrum" is good.

Not as good as "pyromaniac in a field of straw men", but still good.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 10, 2012 04:22 PM (ZKzrr)

10 Romney/ Zimmerman 2012

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:22 PM (OhYCU)

11 I'm gay for Paul Ryan in much the same way that Obama is gay for the sound of his own voice.

Posted by: Warden at April 10, 2012 04:23 PM (HzhBE)

12 I like Ryan but a House member just doesn't have the heft for VP in my book. I've never been a Portman fan.

Posted by: Rocks at April 10, 2012 04:23 PM (Q1lie)

13 Is Paul Ryan's face puffy?

Posted by: LordFunkicus at April 10, 2012 04:23 PM (gQt6b)

14 I have been saying Portman for a while. Romney needs Ohio. (okay, I also though Kasich but I guess he did himself in with Ohioans.)

Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wMMGS)

15 Portman's face is far too puffy to be a campaign asset.

Posted by: Warden at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (HzhBE)

16 Portman is solid in the RINO category with a 75 last year.


Mutt will need a solid red State conservative to do him any good at all. He does not need another "moderate" from the North.


But that being said, I don't think VP choices do a lot of good for a candidate anyway. The biggest impact is negative if you pick the wrong one.

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (YdQQY)

17 The Bufffet Rule is "pixie dust". That's nice. He needs to at least write material for Romney.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (VndSC)

18 The Patriarchy endorses Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Warden at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (HzhBE)

19 If you look at historical vice presidents... those who Won... they are all pretty milque toast types...

You do not want your VP to either outshine, or become an issue, for the Presidential candidate.... as was shown by McLame picking Palin...

Ryan as the VP for Romney both Outshines, AND becomes an issue....

Posted by: History, yelling because you never listen at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (lZBBB)

20 What about Natalie Portman. She's hot.

Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wMMGS)

21 Meh, screw Paul Ryan and his VP dreams.

The party and the country doesn't need him as VP, we needed him to run for the big boy chair and he took a pass.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (2f1Rs)

22 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1665919/posts

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (Aaxiu)

23 Maybe Natalie Portman for VP. Except, she's gotten puffy lately.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (VndSC)

24 >>In related news, William Kristol's erection just hijacked a plane.


That's funny, and I know funny.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (KNvk+)

25 But the MSM told me that he shouldn't pick anyone exciting, because excitement about candidates scares away the moderates!


Posted by: HoboJerky at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (xAtAj)

26 If Santorum is out, does that mean Satan won?

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (OhYCU)

27 Weird.

Sometimes the New Comments Thingy accepts long strings of unbroken text, and sometimes it doesn't.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (Aaxiu)

28 So it's gotten to the point that if a Republican makes a slightly, barely critical remark about Obama we think, "OMG, he must be gunning for VP!"

Posted by: t-bird at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (FcR7P)

29 Can you just picture the debate between Ryan and
Slow Joe........oh god, it would make the beat down Larry Holmes gave
Ali look kind and merciful.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 10, 2012 04:19 PM (OWjjx)

Ryan: gunBiden: knife

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (GQ8sn)

30 >>>26 If Santorum is out, does that mean Satan won?
Yes. In 2008.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (VndSC)

31 Qualities Mitt needs in a running mate?

Someone

1) who can crush Biden like a grape during the debate.

2) meets Constitutional criteria for Veep.

_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (PoYwH)

32 The party and the country doesn't need him as VP, we needed him to run for the big boy chair and he took a pass.


Posted by: DrewM. at April 10, 2012 04:25 PM (2f1Rs)

It is true; the reasons he gave for not running before are exactly the same now.
Let him keep fighting in the house.

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (xAtAj)

33 I thought that it was important for our candidates to not criticize Obama? Ryan didn't get the memo?

Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:27 PM (wMMGS)

34 Flatulence and parlay.

Posted by: Paulie wanna Cracka? at April 10, 2012 04:27 PM (0It32)

35 Pro-tip for the GOP:

You don't have to be angling for a VP spot to lay the smackdown on the Obama Administration.

Posted by: Fritz at April 10, 2012 04:27 PM (/ZZCn)

36 [Weird.Sometimes the New Comments Thingy accepts long strings of
unbroken text, and sometimes it doesn't.]

The Patriarchy works in strange and wondrous ways.

Posted by: Warden at April 10, 2012 04:27 PM (o8HwV)

37 Sean "Puffy" Combs has a Puffy Face.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 10, 2012 04:27 PM (Aaxiu)

38
Rubio or Martinez.
Preferably Rubio.

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:28 PM (wuv1c)

39 Back to A. Judd's face for a sec, can we just call her H.R. Puff & stuff?

Posted by: Killerdog at April 10, 2012 04:28 PM (9/6PQ)

40
I agree with Drew.
Ryan is a bigger asset in the House. Besides, had he wanted to get into the executive, he should have jumped in the primaries.

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:28 PM (wuv1c)

41 Rubio and Romney have executive hair, so there is that.

Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (wMMGS)

42 I watched the whole Paul Ryan / Morning Joe interview.

Can anyone explain why he's so squirrelly about specifics in tax code / deduction reform?

(Kinda cringe worthy.)

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (kqGWM)

43 Can't have Ryan leave House.

If Romney had any brains he'd pander to us...lay out his cabinet before the convention.

Allen "Fuck You" West VP
John Bolton. Secretary of State.
Dick Cheney. Secretary of War.


My erection would hijack a few airplanes and crash them into a couple towers. Oh wait...too soon. let me try again. My erection would be so rock hard it could cut diamonds.

Posted by: Irregular Joe at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (Hp5tO)

44 Does Ryan get a state, or a constituency? Or might he just be the right man for the number2 spot? A Dick Cheney as it were.

Posted by: toby928© at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (GTbGH)

45 I wonder what Paul Ryan thinks about puffy faces?

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (GQ8sn)

46 I've thought Ryan's rhetoric has been a tell for the last few weeks, really. He has certainly made it a point to inject himself in a one-on-one status with Obama.

Here's a question, though. If the financial abyss is so imminent (which I believe it is) and this election so consequential, why did so many "qualified" R's find it possible to sit it out? Daniel, Ryan, Christie, DeMint, Palin.

It is, IMO, a little perplexing that the ship is sinking and yet so many with a real opportunity to do something about it have chosen to take a less stressful approach to bailing water.

One final thought. I'm on record as saying I cannot vote for Romney, nor would I vote for Christie. However, Christie can at least say this; he isn't giving us any social conservatism, but the fiscal-fu he bings both in action and rhetorically is strong.

Posted by: The Hammer at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (wo1YR)

47 But most of the talk recently is about Rob Portman. Who, I have to admit, I don't know at all.

He served in Bush's cabinet, and as a Congressman and then Senator from swing-state Ohio.

And Romney apparently likes him.

Still, the rap on him is that he's not exciting or charismatic. Which Romney obviously needs, or at least strongly wants.


********

How can I explain this to you guys -in terms you would understand?

Portman's resume gives me wood...or something .

Then top it of with all those juicy Ohio electoral votes-


20 of them I think and.....

I'd do him even if he had a puffy face.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (r2PLg)

48 Mmmmm. Paul Ryan.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (bHslY)

49 So the Republican ticket at "best" consists of "Captain Noncommittal" and his sidekick "Green-Eyeshade Lad".

awe.
some.

Posted by: reality check at April 10, 2012 04:30 PM (Zw/H7)

50 If Santorum is out, does that mean Satan won?
Yes. In 2008.
Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (VndSC)

I was under the impression that Satan was Christian of sorts?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2012 04:30 PM (i6RpT)

51 Someone1) who can crush Biden like a grape during the debate.2) meets Constitutional criteria for Veep._

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (PoYwH)

I'm available.

Posted by: Flaming Bag of Dog Poop at April 10, 2012 04:30 PM (Zs83Q)

52
I would like Rand Paul, but I think he might get into trouble on the campaign trails. Libertarians haven't seemed to figure out how to deal with media gotcha questions and fall into the media traps all the time.

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:30 PM (wuv1c)

53 Plus Portman -


wins Ohio by landslides[/].

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (r2PLg)

54 Ryan does seem to understand the dire nature of the federal spending issue, where Mittens doesn't. I could get moderately enthusiastic for a Romney/Ryan ticket.

Posted by: Cicero at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (QKKT0)

55 Hey, he can't help it if you're thinking about him as VP, right?

brb buying batteries and cigarettes

Portman? Really? Not that there's anything wrong with him but he probably has negative name recognition.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (VtjlW)

56 We're in an economic malaise. Our debt and deficit will be our downfall. Who better than Ryan to articulate The Plan for Romney who simply doesn't seem to have the skill-set, if even the inclination, to pitch economic conservatism?

Does Ryan's Plan go far enough fast enough? No. Will this country accept a more austere one right now? Sadly, no, too. So we better get someone who can sell the Best Plan We Can Pass now as it's rather urgent. Ryan could be set free to spread the message and would make both Obama and Biden piss their underoos. We already know Ryan gets under Obama's skin like no other because Ryan shows him up every time.

Ryan would be a timely and smart choice especially when the focus needs to remain on the economy, jobs, debt, and deficit.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (eHIJJ)

57 (Kinda cringe worthy.)

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (kqGWM)

They haven't released the exact plan yet.
I'm waiting too.

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (xAtAj)

58 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:31 PM (8y9MW)

59 I'd do him even if he had a puffy face.(only in the nominating sense.)

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:32 PM (r2PLg)

60
Not sure about Portman. Is he really that popular in Ohio?
I can promise you it won't be Tom Corbett. He's spent the last two years balancing the PA budget and pissing off a whole lot of people as a result. His approval ratings are down significantly, plus I think he wants another term as governor

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:32 PM (wuv1c)

61 49
So the Republican ticket at "best" consists of "Captain Noncommittal" and his sidekick "Green-Eyeshade Lad".


Posted by: reality check at April 10, 2012 04:30 PM (Zw/H7)

That's Captain Severely Noncommittal to you, Puffy Face.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at April 10, 2012 04:32 PM (Aaxiu)

62 not for nothing -

Dick Cheney's original heart is available.
_


Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2012 04:32 PM (PoYwH)

63 >>>I was under the impression that Satan was Christian of sorts? Posted by: Nevergiveup

Of sorts, yes. The same sorts as Rev. Jackson, Rev. Sharpton, Rev. Wright, etc.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:32 PM (VndSC)

64 The important question is, how does Ryan look at a funeral?

Posted by: Cicero at April 10, 2012 04:33 PM (QKKT0)

65
14 I have been saying Portman for a while. Romney needs Ohio. (okay, I also though Kasich but I guess he did himself in with Ohioans.)
Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wMMGS)


Portman also won his race by a larger margin than Kasich did in 2010

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 04:33 PM (GULKT)

66
>>wins Ohio by landslides[/].

He also outspent the Democrat in that race by 9-1

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:33 PM (wuv1c)

67 yeah....whatever.

I'm not impressed. I just had to cash in some IRA money to pay my fucking taxes, so unless that asshole figures out how I can go back to being the middle class guy that everyone supposedly fights for, since I DON'T make $200,000 a year....I don't give a shit.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 10, 2012 04:34 PM (UK9cE)

68 Still, the rap on him is that he's not exciting or charismatic. Which Romney obviously needs, or at least strongly wants.


If history proves anything this is a non factor, the veeps in my lifetime: Biden, Cheney, Gore, Quayle, Bush.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 10, 2012 04:34 PM (tKFT6)

69 Is he really that popular in Ohio?

Yes. He kicks ass.

Landslides.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:34 PM (r2PLg)

70 Quick! Somebody get some fire retardant foam on Ryans hair!

Posted by: maddogg at April 10, 2012 04:34 PM (OlN4e)

71 Romney could not pick a better running mate than Paul Ryan.

Romney could no better prove to me he's a serious man who wants to improve this country than picking Paul Ryan over the likes of Rubio, Cain, or Bachmann.

Posted by: Dustin at April 10, 2012 04:34 PM (z36s0)

72 When they say who is VP they also Mitt has to come out a short list for his entire cabinet. From Sec State, Sec Def, Treasury, HHS and Homeland security.

Posted by: Tjexcite at April 10, 2012 04:35 PM (ovjF+)

73 How Sonny Perdue from GA. He is an "ex" Governor from a Red State in the South. That will not hurt Mutt and it may help bring in some of those "reluctant conservatives".

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2012 04:35 PM (YdQQY)

74
What about that Kelly Ayotte character? I remember her name being mentioned a lot a while back.

We definitely need to pick up NH this time around.

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:35 PM (wuv1c)

75
I haven't heard the Romney is stupid meme from the left, so he better pick Perry.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 04:35 PM (/x4oj)

76 Natalie Portman needs to get a little puffiness in the tit department. Otherwise, besided being born sans a brain, she is hot.

Posted by: maddogg at April 10, 2012 04:36 PM (OlN4e)

77 Can anyone explain why he's so squirrelly about specifics in tax code / deduction reform?

I suspect it has to do with not wanting to stir up a hornets' nest unnecessarily. For instance- why, at this point, when your budget isn't going to get past the Senate anyway- would you admit you're planning on doing away with the home-mortgage interest deduction (or whichever sacred cow you're about to eviscerate)?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:36 PM (8y9MW)

78 he's not exciting or charismatic. Which Romney obviously needs, or at least strongly wants.

how can you tell? does he blink in Morse or something?

Posted by: reality check at April 10, 2012 04:36 PM (Zw/H7)

79 Romney picks Ryan for VP, and how does Obama stay away from budgets, deficits, Obamacare? It's hard to talk about contraception and sluts without Santorum around.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (VndSC)

80 Posted by: The Hammer at April 10, 2012 04:29 PM (wo1YR)

My theory? Anyone who really knows the numbers, and has a brain, knows that there is no way Washington can get enough done with the current gridlock to make the changes needed to not collapse.

We can't even pass a stinkin Budget... Congress is non functional and THIS election will not change that...

So... if you can't fix it... would you really want to be the one who goes down in history as the President in charge during the Collapse?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (lZBBB)

81 And with Perdue we would not be pulling a conservative from congress, although we wouldn't be doing that with Portman either.

Would also help pull in GA which has been trending purple lately.

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (YdQQY)

82 76
Natalie Portman needs to get a little puffiness in the tit department. Otherwise, besided being born sans a brain, she is hot.



Portman has a nice ass-double.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (KNvk+)

83 Ryan doesn't have enough Gravity.

Posted by: Anne Coulter at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (yqQnV)

84 We definitely need to pick up NH this time around.

NH has 4 Electoral votes. Ohio has 20.

Posted by: toby928© at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (GTbGH)

85 Bush cabinet member? Screw that noise.

Martinez would be best.

She's Southwest to Romney's Northeast, conservative to his 'moderate,' white Hispanic to his whitey in panic, a puffy woman to his stuffy yeoman...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (JEpGb)

86 I think he should pick Santorum. <ducks>

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 10, 2012 04:37 PM (IlZPo)

87 VP's

Rubio if he gets you Florida--29 electoral votes.

(Why not Allen West? He has not won a statewide election.)

Portman if he gets you Ohio which I think he does-- 18 electoral votes. (sorry I said 20 earlier.)

Bob McDonnell if he gets you Virginia--

13 electoral votes.

All of these states are competitive.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:38 PM (r2PLg)

88 Zimmerman lawyers speaking now

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:38 PM (OhYCU)

89
>>NH has 4 Electoral votes. Ohio has 20
Oh I know. I'm saying he's probably gotta pick someone from a swing state or someone who appeals to a group that doesn't normally vote Republican(or swings)

Posted by: Ben at April 10, 2012 04:38 PM (wuv1c)

90 Ryan doesn't have enough Gravity.

Romney/Saturn 2012!

Posted by: Carl Sagan at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (QKKT0)

91 No matter who is picked for VP, the Veep debate is a no-brainer.
Biden can debate himself. Easy win for the GOP.

Posted by: Roy at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (VndSC)

92 The lawyers have withdrawn as counsel!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (OhYCU)

93 I screwed up

Ohio 18 electoral votes but still huger than a Kardashain ass in the electoral votes college.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (r2PLg)

94 you'd be better off making a list of folks who think the VP slot was promised to them cause well of the wink.

like Pawlenty, Christie, Rubio, Ryan, West, McDonald, Ron Paul or Rand Paul, wow anyone else, this list is long....lot of folks to be mad at you after the convention....oh and someone this morning said Nikki Haley....

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (oZfic)

95 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:36 PM (8y9MW)

I think its even simpler... he KNOWS that any cut he espouses, will immediatly be jumped on by the Left, and taken out of play...

so he is saying 'we need to cut this much'... and when the time is right I have some suggestions, but YOU guys need to be thinking about this too...'

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (lZBBB)

96 Posted by: tasker


So what you're saying is that Romney needs 3 running mates to win?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 10, 2012 04:40 PM (KNvk+)

97 Sarah Palin is available, I hear.....

Posted by: maddogg at April 10, 2012 04:40 PM (OlN4e)

98 Eww

Posted by: toby928© at April 10, 2012 04:40 PM (GTbGH)

99
Bob Dole would certainly bring some excitement to the ticket. Or maybe Dick Luger.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 04:40 PM (/x4oj)

100 Governor McConnell my prediction at this time in spite of it also being the prediction of our mentally unstable troll.

Posted by: polynikes at April 10, 2012 04:41 PM (eKmTe)

101 Bob Dole is rested, ready, and sporting a four-hour boner!

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 10, 2012 04:41 PM (QKKT0)

102 Rob Portman is perfect for VP.

He has great street cred in DC, knows where all the bodies are buried after 25 years in both Executive and elected Legislative positions.

He brings the Bush fundraising big-wigs and has serious pull with the Bushies without having the last name "Bush."

He has a more conservative voting record than Santorum without all the "scares the females" vibe. Very moderate toned guy with good conservative record.

He wins elections in landslides in a must-win state.

He comes across as a serious but likeable dude with common sense to complement a campaign about how Obama is "a nice guy in over his head." This campaign is not going to be about making people hate Barack Obama. The folks that do already are voting for ABO. It is about convincing people to gently change their minds about HopeNChange or at least stay home.

He credibly could be president.

I know him personally and would run through a wall to support him. I'm all in for Romney if Rob is his VP choice. Period.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at April 10, 2012 04:41 PM (dcoFe)

103 100
Governor McConnell my prediction at this time in spite of it also being the prediction of our mentally unstable troll.

Posted by: polynikes at April 10, 2012 04:41 PM (eKmTe)
I'm not mentally unstable, it's the Virginia governor and you can take that to the bank.

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:42 PM (oZfic)

104 These guys are really slimy. Sounds like they were trying to screw him out of some money.

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:42 PM (OhYCU)

105 Oh, hi curious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 10, 2012 04:42 PM (UOM48)

106 Romney should pick Ashley Judd for VP to lock up the puffy faced chick vote.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 10, 2012 04:42 PM (tf9Ne)

107
94 you'd be better off making a list of folks who think the VP slot was promised to them cause well of the wink.like Pawlenty, Christie, Rubio, Ryan, West, McDonald, Ron Paul or Rand Paul, wow anyone else, this list is long....lot of folks to be mad at you after the convention....oh and someone this morning said Nikki Haley....
Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:39 PM (oZfic)


Just because the guy you're on your knees in front of says something doesn't make it true.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (GULKT)

108 What about that Kelly Ayotte character? I remember her name being mentioned a lot a while back.
Isn't she the inventor of some garlic/mayo spread?

Posted by: wooga at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (vjyZP)

109 A phoenix is rising under my magic underwear, thinking about all the potential veeps.

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (PH+2B)

110 Sarah Palin is available, I hear.....

For what? Did Christina get voted off Survivor?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (SY2Kh)

111 Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:42 PM (oZfic)

THAR' SHE BLOWS!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (JEpGb)

112 Just because the guy you're on your knees in front of says something doesn't make it true.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (GULKT)
Sorry, you're wrong everything Jesus Christ says is true.

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (oZfic)

113 A top leader at the Vatican said if Catholics and Catholic organizations complied with Obama's birth control insurance mandate, it would be a sin.

(Full story at Weasel Zippers)

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at April 10, 2012 04:44 PM (BrWVB)

114 Someone needs to take out the kitty litter box at 103.

dally = Tidy Cat

Posted by: mpfs at April 10, 2012 04:44 PM (iYbLN)

115 Has the Pope resigned yet?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 10, 2012 04:44 PM (rND5e)

116 You don't think you're mentally unstable but what do the rest of your personalities think?

Posted by: polynikes at April 10, 2012 04:44 PM (eKmTe)

117
Awww, come on. Putting Palin on the ticket would allow the democrats to call us stupid, again.

WOW, LOL.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 04:45 PM (/x4oj)

118 "I haven't heard the Romney is stupid meme from the left, so he better pick Perry.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 04:35 PM (/x4oj)"
I want Perry right where he is. And I think VP is a step down. Not to mention, Perry sucks ass at national politics but is an excellent actual administrator with awesome results. VP wastes his talents and relies on him for shit he's terrible at to boot.Paul Ryan is an excellent VP choice. I want someone who is serious and has actually fought the constructive fight. I worry Romney is more worried about polls and electability and will probably pick Rubio.
Not that I have a big problem with Rubio... he's a gifted speaker, but Ryan's battle tested and in his own category.

Posted by: Dustin at April 10, 2012 04:45 PM (z36s0)

119 Fidel Castro would make a fine VP choice.

Posted by: Ozzie Guillen at April 10, 2012 04:45 PM (yqQnV)

120 Rob Portman's electoral vote percentages (history)


Ohio's 2nd congressional district: Results 1994–2004:

1994

Les Mann 43,730 23%

Rob Portman 150,128 77%

1996

Thomas R. Chandler 58,715 23% Rob Portman 186,853 72%

1998

Charles W. Sanders 49,293 24% Rob Portman 154,344 76%

2000
Charles W. Sanders 64,091 23% Rob Portman 204,184 74%
Robert E. Bidwell Libertarian 9,266 3%

2002

Charles W. Sanders 48,785 26% Rob Portman 139,218 74% *

2004

Charles W. Sanders 89,598 28% Rob Portman ** 227,102 72% *

U.S. Senate (Class III) elections in Ohio: Results 2010[

Lee Fisher 1,448,092 39.00%

Rob Portman 2,125,810 57.25%

Landslide.
[edit]

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:45 PM (r2PLg)

121 A top leader at the Vatican said if Catholics and Catholic organizations
complied with Obama's birth control insurance mandate, it would be a
sin.


How will the Pope's resignation affect that?

Posted by: curious' barber's 2nd cousin, not the jewish one, the other one at April 10, 2012 04:46 PM (GTbGH)

122 116
You don't think you're mentally unstable but what do the rest of your personalities think?

Posted by: polynikes at April 10, 2012 04:44 PM (eKmTe)
Wow, you are a mind reader, was just about to ask you that same question. It will be so funny to watch you crying your eyes out when Romney loses.

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:46 PM (oZfic)

123 "Ryan doesn't have enough Gravity.

Romney/Saturn 2012!"
Posted by: Carl Sagan

Why I love to visit here.

Posted by: cheetah at April 10, 2012 04:46 PM (zXhtZ)

124 I wonder what curious' priest's barber thinks about Mitt's VP pick? I'm sure it's fascinating.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 10, 2012 04:46 PM (UOM48)

125 For what? Did Christina get voted off Survivor?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 10, 2012 04:43 PM (SY2Kh) I think you would have to admit, she would be several cup sizes (and brain sizes) superior to slow joe.

Posted by: maddogg at April 10, 2012 04:46 PM (OlN4e)

126 I can't run now, later maybe but nut now.

Posted by: Bob Doles left nut at April 10, 2012 04:47 PM (9/6PQ)

127
Les Mann 43,730 23%

heh

Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:47 PM (jUytm)

128 We don't need Ryan in the VP chair going to funerals; we need Boehner to make him Chairman of both Budget AND Appropriations in the House. That would be worthy of the title "czar".

Posted by: Jean at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (WkuV6)

129 Curious wants Obama to win. Now I really hate the bitch.

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (KXm42)

130 Plus, he's not a demographic token. Part of the Romney campaign psychology is going to be "we've tried the political rock star dealio with Obama and with Palin on the R side and look where it got us economically." He will be asking people to go back to a comfortable version of politics as something you shouldn't have to get excited about because the government is run by competent people who leave you alone. "Looking like a president" is part of that appeal. Rob Portman fits that image.

You don't win an election about people being in over their head and having been elected due to "unprecedented history-making" by pandering to the exact same impulse with a Rubio or a woman candidate. You do it with boring, competent, accomplished white dudes.

Marketing is about appealing to psychology. In politics as in any other product choice.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (dcoFe)

131 So what you're saying is that Romney needs 3 running mates to win?
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 10, 2012 04:40 PM (KNvk+)

*shit*

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (r2PLg)

132 Not that I have a big problem with Rubio... he's a gifted speaker, but Ryan's battle tested and in his own category.
-------------------------------------
Interesting. I prefer Ryan in house because he's one of the very few people in all of government that understands the budget.

I'm kind of in the tank for Rubio because I'm from Florida, but I have mixed feelings about his relative inexperience and future past the VP slot.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (/x4oj)

133 Christina' implants are more intelligent than Biden.

Posted by: toby928© at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (GTbGH)

134 The lawyers were trying to take all the money from the Zimmerman website, and they are pissing on him now that he found out.

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (OhYCU)

135 I'm tanned, rested and ready. Mitt, call me.

Posted by: Rev. Huckabee at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (UOM48)

136
WKRP In Cincinatti

"A man's name should say something about his character. What's your name?"

Les Nessman: "Les."

Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (jUytm)

137 127
Les Mann 43,730 23%

heh
Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:47 PM (jUytm)

********

LOL!

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (r2PLg)

138 We don't need Ryan in the VP chair going to funerals; we need Boehner

Well there's and interesting idea? Considering the VP is essentially the appendix of the Executive branch, how does Boehner poll in Ohio? Could he deliver that swing state?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (8y9MW)

139 I know a guy who has a brother who knows a woman in downtown Manhattan who said that it feels good to shove moderately sized cucumbers (regular, not English) in your mudhole but it doesn't feel good it hurts at least for the first hour or two.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (o8HwV)

140 I'm not mentally unstable

Posted by: Things never spoken by the sane at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (Zw/H7)

141 Romney / Santorum 2012

( you know you want it, bitches; you want it BAD )


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (Dll6b)

142 129
Curious wants Obama to win. Now I really hate the bitch.


Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2012 04:48 PM (KXm42)
Excuse me, I'm tired of you conservatives saying that you want obama to lose yet you put up the weakest candidate in the field, which means you really want to lose, you are planning to throw the election again. Reality is reality, more people dislike romney than like him and when the dems are done with him even you will be afraid to vote for him. But don't worry ed and karl will threaten the conservatives in an effort to force them to vote for him, right?

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (oZfic)

143 -

We Need to Win.

_

Crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of de puffy-faced wimmen. That part comes later.


Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (PoYwH)

144 Is it news that Zimmerman has been dumped by his attorneys and hasn't been heard from by them in a while?

Posted by: © Sponge at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (UK9cE)

145 Take a look at Portman's bio on Wiki. A Cincinnati guy.

Dartmouth, Anthropology
Michigan, Law

Grew up in his father's forklift sales and service biz, a company with almost 300 employees.

Someone who can counter the meme Zero will surely use, all about Romney and the republicans being elite and out of touch.

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (PH+2B)

146 I'm not mentally unstable

4 out of 5 voices agree

Posted by: toby928© at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (GTbGH)

147 “I’ve had 12 come up to me and say, ‘I love what you’re doing with Ron [Wyden],’” he said. As for going public with their support, Ryan said the Democrats told him: “No way, I’ll get killed.”
Cowards. Spit. They should be horsewhipped when the doom comes.

Posted by: Randy M at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (vI8R6)

148 "why leave him now when he needs you most"?

No shit

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:51 PM (OhYCU)

149
I need a guy with a puffy face...

Chris Christie.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at April 10, 2012 04:51 PM (tcSZb)

150 yeah, tasker, but most Cong districts are landslide-prone


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 04:51 PM (Dll6b)

151 CW Sanders a masochist? He sure seemed to enjoy getting whipped by Portman

Posted by: Jean at April 10, 2012 04:51 PM (WkuV6)

152
heh, I was close but here's the exact quote from an episode in 1979:

Les Nessman: Steel, is it?

Steel Hawthorne: Yeah, Steel Hawthorn.

Les Nessman: That's a nice name.

Steel Hawthorne: Thanks. I like to think that a person's name says a lot about the type of person he is. What was your name again?

Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (jUytm)

153 Well there's and interesting idea? Considering the VP is essentially the appendix of the Executive branch, how does Boehner poll in Ohio? Could he deliver that swing state?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 10, 2012 04:49 PM (8y9MW)


I couldn't tell you what he polls in the rest of the state. But he slaughters the primary challengers and Democrats in the district. But we're pretty red here.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (GULKT)

154 Puffy? Actually, I'm more into blow.

Posted by: The LSDreams of my Fattah at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (0It32)

155 Never hire a lawyer under this basis "pro bono up until the point charges were filed"

Posted by: cherry at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (OhYCU)

156 my priest is cute and he said romney is bad and everyone at my weekend dinner parties agrees with him, even Piglet and Rabbit who, as you know, is a very skeptical bunny.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (o8HwV)

157 Nobody can help that coward Romney.....The Kenyan and his State Media will beat him to a pulp.

The only question is...do we sack DC now, or after the election?

Posted by: Pam at April 10, 2012 04:52 PM (cgrL5)

158 "Interesting. I prefer Ryan in house because he's one of the very few people in all of government that understands the budget."

This is a good point, of course. Ryan is doing good where is now.

But Romney could pick no better running mate. I think Ryan could still work with the House and Senate from the White House. He could take the lead on the budget the Romney administration puts forward. That's where the process starts, after all. It's like being a super cardinal.

House members can be replaced much more easily than Senators and Governors, and this will also groom Ryan to be the next Ronald Reagan level President.

Posted by: Dustin at April 10, 2012 04:53 PM (z36s0)

159
No, I'm not mentally unstable. I just come here every fucking day with a different nic and expect to undetected for 3-5 nanoseconds. Then take my ass whipping and go away until the next day. No, I'm not mentally unstable. Why do you ask?
/ewenohoo

Posted by: maddogg at April 10, 2012 04:53 PM (OlN4e)

160 Ryan: Workin' that preference cascade thang.

Posted by: starboardhelm at April 10, 2012 04:53 PM (hHgxI)

161 Curious wants Obama to win. Now I really hate the bitch.Posted by: eleven

Um, moby is as moby does and has done since last year.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 10, 2012 04:53 PM (JEpGb)

162
Paul Ryan?

Are you people crazee??

The man drinks $35000 wine!

Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:54 PM (jUytm)

163 Of course the bigotted, anti-semitic, Ron Paul lover wants Obama to win.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (GULKT)

164 42 I watched the whole Paul Ryan / Morning Joe interview.

Can anyone explain why he's so squirrelly about specifics in tax code / deduction reform?

(Kinda cringe worthy.)

> He can only give his opinion because tax policy is crafted by Ways and Means, and they have not yet decided how they want to handle deductions.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (d6QMz)

165 If you were honest you'd realize there is no discernible difference between romney and obama. Regular people will just opt to let the guy stay another term cause they are "the same and all">

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (oZfic)

166 brb, The View is on and Whoopie is saying something really interesting about how no one likes Republicans.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (o8HwV)

167 Wow, Geraghty pointed out something I've been mentioning for awhile. Pay attention to the right track/wrong track polls to get a true idea how the election is going to go. Polls at this point with a contested primary in head to heads are meaningless.

So the RCP average is currently -27.5% and only a -10% outlier from McClatchy is keeping the average from being around -33%.

With a -30%ish differential, then all those tossups that CAC is posting are almost certain to go to Romney, giving him about 300 EVs.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (9t6jP)

168 Can Portman deliver Ohio? If so, give the keys

Posted by: Jean at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (WkuV6)

169 I'm not mentally unstable. It's my cats that are unstable. They tell me to do things....

Posted by: dolly at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (ggRof)

170 Ryan can re-define the Vice Presidency, iffn he is elected and wants to do so


That office was originally conceived as something of a 'balance' on the President, as the 2nd place vote-getter was the VP until they changed the rules

Adams, Jefferson, etc

so, the VP was originally a national politician and the de facto leader of the party NOT in control of the Presidency. Ryan can be the 'conservative balance' to Romney, as conservatives are NOT going to control the presidency for the next term

yeah, whatever---think about it

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (Dll6b)

171 A top leader at the Vatican said if Catholics and Catholic organizations complied with Obama's birth control insurance mandate, it would be a sin.

Yeah, but whatsa da word on the Pope retiring? I got customers who wanna know.

Posted by: Giuseppe the Barber at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (phlKA)

172 150 yeah, tasker, but most Cong districts are landslide-prone


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 04:51 PM (Dll6b)

******

I just threw those in there. I bolded his recent Senate race-

57.5% that's a HUGE margin these days where focus groups have turned the US into a 50-50 nation.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (r2PLg)

173 Paul Ryan as VP would be a terrible waste.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 10, 2012 04:21 PM (JxMoP)

-------------------------------------------

We really do need Ryan to stay in the House. If I were Romney, I'd insist the repubs choose him as the next congress' Speaker.

Posted by: Soona at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (OvdJX)

174 one of my facebook friends said i have a puffy face and i told her it's because of how bitchy and mean all the women are at ace of spades and one guy i know from the deli on 4th said that people treat me this way because they're jealous that I live in NYC.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (o8HwV)

175 57.25%

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (r2PLg)

176 Mittens needs to do a remake single of "Hits From the Bong" w/special guest Maynard from Tool.

At this point, I don't think it would hurt.

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (rNv6U)

177 "If you were honest you'd realize there is no discernible difference between romney and obama."

I think Romney is a terrible nominee and I'm no fan, but if you can't tell the difference between he and Obama you haven't been paying attention. Obama has got to go. He's crossed the line too many times. IG firings, Fast and Furious, imposing himself in a racial manner on all kinds of stuff, radicals in his cabinet, no budget in years, deficits at the insane level...

Romney is no peach, but he's not going to cram the white house with incompetent radicals or corrupt assholes. Obama has got to go.

Posted by: Dustin at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (z36s0)

178 Um, moby is as moby does and has done since last year.

At least since 2010. Witness how it was most insistent in predicting the eventual Dem landslide.



*cough*

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 10, 2012 04:57 PM (rND5e)

179 Cowards. Spit. They should be horsewhipped when the doom comes.
Posted by: Randy M at April 10, 2012 04:50 PM (vI8R6)

-------------------------

They're Dems. Tools of the Left. That should go without saying.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM (xUM1Q)

180 Ron Paul is gay.

Posted by: Purity Republican at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM (KNvk+)

181 Ryan has not been tested in a statewide race and for some reason refused the WI senate race.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM (r2PLg)

182 Dally / curious you keep yes coming because you will prevail tomorrow how doing is for possible.

Posted by: Crazy says what at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM (eKmTe)

183
Nerds, assemble!

Comic book post above.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM (jUytm)

184 And Portman's win was against the sitting Lt. Governor who was a household name in Ohio due to having won state-wide himself three previous times. It was Portman's first state-wide run and he crushed the guy.

Rob is a winner.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at April 10, 2012 04:59 PM (dcoFe)

185 Ryan doesn't even have a emoticon of credibilty with us young people.

Posted by: Mega Megs at April 10, 2012 04:59 PM (eavT+)

186 all those tossups that CAC is posting are almost certain to go to Romney, giving him about 300 EVs.


Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (9t6jP)

==bueno, Dave. I've been saying this for months but no one listens to me !!!
Nearly all of the current 'undecided voters' will either not vote or vote against the incumbent Kenyan Kommunist. Unless Mittens spazes out, of course...

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 04:59 PM (Dll6b)

187 It will be so funny to watch you crying your eyes out when Romney loses._____________

She likes to watch.

Posted by: Chance the Gardener at April 10, 2012 05:00 PM (jm/9g)

188 Obama and Romney look no different to my cats. my cats say that Ron Paul seems nice and my psychic one, Princess Petunia, says that Obama will win unless all you bitchy women here at ace of spades say you're sorry to me. she can predict the future by reading the litter box and everyone says it's so cute!

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 05:00 PM (o8HwV)

189 57.5% that's a HUGE margin these days where focus groups have turned the US into a 50-50 nation.





Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:56 PM (r2PLg)

yes, but Senate races in 'swing' states can be...flukish. A fluke; fluke-like
Getting re-elected to the Senate shows you've got True Grit

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)

190
Who would be a good VP candidate that comes across as someone that is no bullshit and tough?

Someone that could pull off a Winston Wolf line.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 05:02 PM (/x4oj)

191 House members can be replaced much more easily than Senators and Governors, and this will also groom Ryan to be the next Ronald Reagan level President.
Posted by: Dustin at April 10, 2012 04:53 PM (z36s0)

----------------------

This. The VP is basically our entire 'farm league.' We need somebody in there who isn't a scary oldguy with a bad heart. While Cheney is a great guy and all, picking him as VP was a horrible error. It broke the chain of continuity by killing our succession training.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 10, 2012 05:02 PM (xUM1Q)

192 188
Obama and Romney look no different to my cats. my cats say that Ron Paul
seems nice and my psychic one, Princess Petunia, says that Obama will
win unless all you bitchy women here at ace of spades say you're sorry
to me. she can predict the future by reading the litter box and everyone
says it's so cute!


Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 05:00 PM (o8HwV)



lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 10, 2012 05:02 PM (UOM48)

193 i haven't left the house for 9 days but it's okay because I stocked up on bologna and Chunky Monkey ice cream . i bet you guys don't even have that in your states.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 05:03 PM (o8HwV)

194 Ryan would be a very solid choice not only on his considerable merits, but also because he seems to very easily and effectively get under King Putt's skin.

So that's more merit right there.

Cordially..

Posted by: Rick at April 10, 2012 05:04 PM (2bG+g)

195 Tom McClintock for Veep!

Posted by: Navada is FacePalming at April 10, 2012 05:04 PM (XvHmy)

196 Dally needs to quit feeding her cats in the thread. Or close her legs. Either way its stinks like 3 day oldtuna.

Posted by: buzzion at April 10, 2012 05:04 PM (GULKT)

197 yes, but Senate races in 'swing' states can be...flukish. A fluke; fluke-like
Getting re-elected to the Senate shows you've got True Grit
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 05:01 PM (Dll6b)

********

Damn who would fit that bill?

I can't think of a Republican Senator from a swing state with big electoral numbers that's been fire tested as you say.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:04 PM (r2PLg)

198
Can Curt Schilling read? If so, I say Curt Schilling.

Posted by: MJ at April 10, 2012 05:05 PM (/x4oj)

199 Allen West for VP

Posted by: Nowhere, KS at April 10, 2012 05:05 PM (QbjWk)

200 And Portman's win was against the sitting Lt. Governor who was a household name in Ohio due to having won state-wide himself three previous times. It was Portman's first state-wide run and he crushed the guy.


********

Good point.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:06 PM (r2PLg)

201 You are absolutely right, Stan. As things stand today, this election is Romney's to lose. As long as he executes a competent campaign and has enough money, he will win this pretty easily.

It won't be more than a 4 or 5% win, but the EVs will be 300+.

I predict Romney will outspend Obama.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 05:06 PM (9t6jP)

202 If you were honest you'd realize there is no
discernible difference between romney and obama. Regular people will
just opt to let the guy stay another term cause they are "the same and
all">


Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 04:55 PM (oZfic)



You are insane.

Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:06 PM (P6QsQ)

203 William Jennings Bryan?????


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 05:07 PM (Dll6b)

204 I bought an Ouija board so i'd have some company on Saturday nights and a ghost from the Civil War who knows this other guy who was from France back then says that if all the dead French people from teh Civil War period were alive today that they wouldn't like Romney.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 05:07 PM (o8HwV)

205 Ryan has not been tested in a statewide race and for some reason refused the WI senate race.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 04:58 PM



The reason being is that he was doing a job that he took seriously in the House - crafting this budget reform. He took on a job, stuck with it and completed it. He is an honorable man that didn't leave his post.

Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)

206 I predict Romney will outspend Obama.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 05:06 PM (9t6jP)
You mean on the election, or in office?
If the latter, I think we can turn off the lights on the Republican party.

Posted by: Randy M at April 10, 2012 05:09 PM (vI8R6)

207 there was an article in the Economist that someone i know read and they said that the article totally disproved everything that romney ever said about economics.

Posted by: Curiously stupid at April 10, 2012 05:09 PM (o8HwV)

208 Remember how Sarah Palin had to run for President-in-waiting against Obama, and Best Mother of the Year, and Most Virtuous and Green Feminista, when we thought she only had to run against Dopey-Joe Biden for Vice President?

What hoops will the MSM make Romney's choice jump through? If female, all the crap Palin had to deal with. If male, it'll be War on Women. If white, add Critical Race Theory. If Hispanic, add Critical Race Theory and Poor Widdle Illegal Immigrant Children. If straight or gay, Jewish or Catholic, green or yellow -- they'll always find something.

Posted by: starboardhelm at April 10, 2012 05:09 PM (hHgxI)

209 "Regular people will
just opt to let the guy stay another term cause they are "the same and
all"

Juxtaposed against the -30% right track/wrong track polling I just mentioned. I remember when trolls were competent.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 05:09 PM (9t6jP)

210 Warren Gamaliel Harding was a good-looking Ohio Senator. Dead, tho....

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 05:10 PM (Dll6b)

211 The reason being is that he was doing a job that he took seriously in the House - crafting this budget reform. He took on a job, stuck with it and completed it. He is an honorable man that didn't leave his post.
Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)

***********

mama winger

Don't get me wrong I loooove Ryan--I'm just not sure about Wisconsin.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:11 PM (r2PLg)

212 To be clear, Randy, I mean on the election.

No one will ever reach the plateau that Obama has ascended.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 05:11 PM (9t6jP)

213 210 Warren Gamaliel Harding was a good-looking Ohio Senator. Dead, tho....
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 10, 2012 05:10 PM (Dll6b)

*****

LOL--his middle name was -Gamaliel?

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:12 PM (r2PLg)

214 I'm just not sure about Wisconsin.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:11 PM




In what way? You mean that the Republicans win the Senate seat that's up? I think we will.

Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:12 PM (P6QsQ)

215 @207: no your wrong it wasn't the Economist it was the Lifetime TV newsletter

Posted by: curiouser and curiousest at April 10, 2012 05:12 PM (jm/9g)

216
Obama doesn't have a puffy face, plus he is a black guy, so i'm gonna vote for him, as are a lot of my idiot friends.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at April 10, 2012 05:17 PM (tcSZb)

217 In what way? You mean that the Republicans win the Senate seat that's up? I think we will.
Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:12 PM (P6QsQ)

**********

The general election. Plus WI only has 10 electoral votes, three swing states FL, Ohio and Va get you more.


Tommy Thompson--it would be a *shocker* if he didn't win the Senate seat.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2012 05:22 PM (r2PLg)

218 212 To be clear, Randy, I mean on the election.No one will ever reach the plateau that Obama has ascended.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 10, 2012 05:11 PM (9t6jP)
I wouldn't think that possible, but primaries bring out hyperbole.

Posted by: Randy M at April 10, 2012 05:23 PM (vI8R6)

219 #165 There is a HUGE discernible difference between Romney and Obama:

1. Romney likes America; Obama does not.
2. Romney understands the economy and business; Obama does not.
3. Romney has a wife who knows how to dress and understands protocol; Obama does not.
4. Romney is a capitalist; Obama is a stealth Marxist.
5. Romney wants to get businesses growing; Obama wants to punish them.
6. Romney wants to increase our national defense; Obama does not.
7. Romney supports Israel and is a personal friend of Netenyahu; Obama despises Israel.

That is 7 right there, typed in less than 5 minutes. Your statement that there is no difference is nothing but democrat mole talking points, designed to sow discord and undermine support. So knock it off, because I am getting pissed off at reading your moronic comments.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 10, 2012 05:26 PM (GoIUi)

220 The general election. Plus WI only has 10 electoral votes, three swing states FL, Ohio and Va get you more.





Okay, I get what you're saying now. Yeah, Wisconsin is going to be a squeaker in the general I think. We'll know a lot more after the Walker recall election in June. That should give us some good information.

Posted by: mama winger at April 10, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ)

221 AOSHQ - come for the movie reviews, stay for the Nolan Ryan -Robin Venutra style beat down of curious.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 10, 2012 05:27 PM (OWjjx)

222 ***boing***

Posted by: joeindc44 the bluff caller at April 10, 2012 05:29 PM (QxSug)

223 I wandered back into the Santorum thread without a sherpa leading the way.

I have no idea who is who over there or what the hell is going on.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 10, 2012 05:29 PM (piMMO)

224 Portman is a great guy with a stellar resume, but if Romney doesn't win Florida then the contest in Ohio, Wisconsin, hell, everywhere else, won't matter. Romney must win Florida to have any realistic chance to win the Electoral College. Rubio looks like a junior high school student compared to Portman, but the bottom line is that Rubio received over 2.6 million votes in Florida, including 51% of Independents, less than two years ago. You simply have to go with Rubio. Now, having said that, of course, if Rubio has a bimbo problem or if there are problems with his wife or with his kids then you take internal polls of the remaining key swing states with notable Republicans in office and you go withwhomever helps you out the most. The non-Rubio short list shouldhave Portman and McDonnell at the top of it, Pat Toomey in the2nd tier,and then maybe Brian Sandoval, although NVhas so few electoral votes it would be tough to justify that pick,despite Sandoval's A+ resume.Paul Ryan would be a ridiculous choice. Ryan would have a very difficult time winning a major election in his own state, much less helping out Romney in other areas of the country.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at April 10, 2012 05:35 PM (f8XyF)

225 I like Ryan SO much, and I think Romney does, too.

Does anyone know if you can be VP and a Cabinet Secretary? Like for OMB? Most or all of the Cabinet isn't a Constitutional creation, so why not?


Posted by: @ParisParamus at April 10, 2012 05:35 PM (lkG6y)

226 There is only one man tough enough to be the VP. He is known by many names:

Punch RockGroin
Slab Bulkhead
Fridge LargeMeat
Butch Deadlift
Splint Chesthair
Flint Ironstag
Bulk Vanderhuge
Thick McRunFast
Buff DrinkLots
Trump SlamChest
Dirk Hardpeck
Crud BoneMeal
Rip SlagCheek
Gristle McThornbody
Bob Johnson


No matter what the name is, remember this: We must put our faith in Blast HardCheese!

Posted by: Crew of the Southern Sun at April 10, 2012 05:38 PM (mmHDH)

227 I have made my peace with Romney, quite a while before Santorum dropping out today. So since I fell in line on Romney, can I at least have my way on VP?

Romney/Bolton 2012
THAT'S some personality.

Posted by: Tonestaple at April 10, 2012 05:38 PM (V+wqJ)

228 Don't know anything about this Portman dude, but lacking charisma? Seriously? Jeebus on a biscuit....if Romney needs anything in a VP, it's someone who has some, you know, appeal. Is that too much to freaking ask? If watching and listening to Romney is equal to watching paint drying (and it is), his VP pick better have some charm. Dammit.

Posted by: Lady in Black.....{sigh} at April 10, 2012 05:38 PM (tfw18)

229 Chart: "The Buffet Tax: Politics, Not Math"
http://tinyurl.com/dxy7z6d

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 10, 2012 05:39 PM (d6QMz)

230 14
I have been saying Portman for a while. Romney needs Ohio. (okay, I
also though Kasich but I guess he did himself in with Ohioans.)

Look. If you need Portman to win Ohio, if Ryan isn't enough, we're going to lose. Ryan gets an extra state or two, at least over Portman. The issue is whether or not Romney can win without a Southerner; not whether Portman is needed.


Posted by: @ParisParamus at April 10, 2012 05:39 PM (lkG6y)

231 29 Can you just picture the debate between Ryan and
Slow Joe........oh god, it would make the beat down Larry Holmes gave
Ali look kind and merciful.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 10, 2012 04:19 PM (OWjjx)
Ryan: gunBiden: knife
Posted by: EC at April 10, 2012 04:26 PM (GQ8sn)

Ryan: Laser guided bunker buster Biden: Hooked on Phonics

FIFY

Posted by: Paul Morphy at April 10, 2012 05:41 PM (cYMja)

232 Wife and I did our returns today using TurboTax, sitting together at the desk, her with the paperwork, me with the mouse.

Took a while. She had some one-time windfall stuff 'cause her father passed last year.

We made it through without killing each other. Barely.

God, I hate living in NY. The bullshit giveaways they have for public sector employees are all out there, staring you in the face, when you go through the state return shit.

Let's hope Ryan can do something about all this crap, at least for the federal code. He can do this best by staying where he is. As for NY, we gotta move, and are planning our exit to be very soon.

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 10, 2012 05:41 PM (PH+2B)

233 Saw him this morning on "Today" he handled that sickening Ann Curry perfectly. Would love him as VP.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 10, 2012 05:41 PM (KL49F)

234 ***The bullshit giveaways they have for public sector employees are all out there, staring you in the face, when you go through the state return shit.***

a 1000 kings, 1 mile away, these p-s-u-t's need to be banned.

Posted by: joeindc44 the bluff caller at April 10, 2012 05:42 PM (QxSug)

235 I'm beginning to think that Ryan is the better choice than my first pick, Allen West, for two reasons: this election is all about the economy and budget and Ryan is an EXPERT in this department and West has not distinguished himself at all here, in fact, he voted to raise the debt ceiling just several months ago; and also because West's response to theTrayvon Martin case was a little disappointing to me.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 10, 2012 05:43 PM (KL49F)

236 So, SMOD, you think you got something on me? Watch this.

Posted by: Preference Cascade at April 10, 2012 05:44 PM (qwK3S)

237 (oZfic) and (OhYCU)


Oh great. Now we have cat piss and raykon trolling the thread? *heavy sigh*

Posted by: jem at April 10, 2012 05:45 PM (0oYHO)

238 The party and the country doesn't need him as VP, we needed him to run for the big boy chair and he took a pass.

I'm with Drew on this. We needed him as #1 to take this fight straight to the pyromaniac-in-chief, and he wussed out for family reasons. He will get the exact same MFM reaming as VP as he would have for POTUS. The excuse that we need him in the House is bunk, since the Senate doesn't do a damn thing anyway, he should have just run for Pres, so he could really get things he wants done.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 10, 2012 05:54 PM (UU0OF)

239 Has Old Man Paul dropped out yet?

Romney/Paul 2012!
No. The other Paul!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 10, 2012 05:59 PM (piMMO)

240 Well, we're not running with the guys we wish we were.

We're running with the guys we got.

Me? I'm all dead inside, except for one thing:

I'm not waiting to find out how "flexible" Obama can be with Putin in a second term.

So, this evening after work, I'm going to go and find out what the local GOP office needs me to do to help get Romney elected. And I'm going to do it with extreme, vociferous enthusiasm.

Posted by: Dianna at April 10, 2012 06:03 PM (DV/Ik)

241 Romnay needs someone with a workable pair of testicles.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 10, 2012 06:05 PM (Bughn)

242 No matter what the name is, remember this: We must put our faith in Blast HardCheese!
Posted by: Crew of the Southern Sun at April 10, 2012 05:38 PM (mmHDH)
Obama's presenting like a mandrill!

Posted by: TexasJew at April 10, 2012 06:06 PM (Bughn)

243 I hear Gary Busey's available.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Bughn)

244 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2012 07:20 PM (7W3wI)

245 Look, I love Marco Rubio, but the comment above about him looking like a high school student next to Rob Portman is spot on. You cannot run a "return to competent normalcy government" by undermining your entire electoral premise and marketing message with a "rock star" type demographic-pander pick with a thin resume (relatively).

Obama will not beat Romney in Florida. Period. You don't need a Florida ticket mate.

Rick Santorum was right about where the election will be decided. He was just the wrong guy to carry that message. Northern industrial state suburbs. That's the key. Read Michael Barone's piece yesterday.

Paul Ryan has never won a state-wide election. Expecting him to carry not only Wisconsin but several other states for Romney is ridiculous wish-casting.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at April 10, 2012 07:33 PM (dcoFe)

246 (okay, I also though Kasich but I guess he did himself in with Ohioans.)

Posted by: Blaster at April 10, 2012 04:24 PM (wMMGS)


Maybe but I think that's garbage the trolls have been ordered to push. Now that Kevin Cocksucker DeWine has been sent packing by the Tea Party, Kasich can operate without worrying about catching a fucking shiv in the back.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 10, 2012 07:53 PM (ilxis)

247 Aw gee, had to go to a loooong meeting. Came back to realize I missed all the lovely comments.

Anyway, the republicans need women and independents. Two groups that get their news from headlines and lifetime. So, unless you think like them, you are going to lose. This group loves the first lady, they dislike Ann, go out and read where real people post, not just on conservative/republican refuges, and you'll see they love michelle, dislike ann. He's got to fix that right out of the box. If the women don't like your wife, they aren't voting for you.

Posted by: dally at April 10, 2012 08:28 PM (oZfic)

248 curious stfu you stupid bitch

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at April 10, 2012 10:13 PM (8beAV)

249 "235 I'm beginning to think that Ryan is the better choice than my first pick, Allen West, for two reasons: this election is all about the economy and budget Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 10, 2012 05:43 PM (KL49F) "

The VP position is that of an attack dog, Paul Ryan is not suited and doesn't want it. Who would you prefer as your wingman aka attack dog, the man who is comfortable in the position and damn good at it or Mr. No Thanks which covers Rubio and Ryan. I like Ryan, but he is best where he is comfortable. I prefer him to lead the GOP in House of Representatives.

Besides Romney is going to need a conservative on the ticket with some heft. I have a feeling his campaign team is going to make him a tough pill to swallow. I swear I hope they don't turn him into another McCain.

Posted by: Joe at April 11, 2012 02:05 AM (Pyjot)

250 AOSHQ - come for the movie reviews, stay for the Nolan Ryan -Robin Venutra style beat down of curious.___________

Nolan Ryan is very proud of his son Paul and is lobbying to have him chosen as Romney's running mate. Nolan's team would have won the World Series if it wasn't for the RINO establishment having the game rigged - twice.

Posted by: curiouser and curiousest at April 11, 2012 08:35 AM (jm/9g)






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