"Act of Valor": a brief review, w/spoilers [Fritzworth]
This film has gotten a fair amount of 'net publicity -- though probably not nearly enough regular marketing -- because of its fundamental concept: film a movie about what Navy Seals do, using actual Navy Seals and, by the way, a lot of live ammunition. It sounds like a recipe for a heartfelt but amateur film. While it is heartfelt, it is anything but amateur. Yes, the Seals themselves tend to sound just a bit stilted when talking with each other, as I suspect most of us would if we were filmed. But after a while, that just adds to the ambiance of the film. What came through is that these are real men who train for and carry out exactly these missions. At no point in the film did I roll my eyes or make a quiet snide comment to my wife. Nor was there any hint of political correctness, stupid plot twists, or Hollywood tropes (save one, but see below). The film had great direction, great cinematography, great sound, and great editing. What I was not prepared for at the end of the film was the list of Naval Special Warfare personnel who have died in the line of duty since 9/11. It was a much longer list than I would have expected. My wife and I were quiet when we left the film and for most of the drive home. As we walked out of the theater, past the posters for various coming films, I was struck in a new way how fatuous most of what Hollywood produces is, compared to a film such as this. While it is doubtful that George Orwell ever said, "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf," it is a true fact nevertheless. God bless such rough men in the service of the United States. Highly recommended. Some spoilers after the jump.
SPOILERSOne of the lead characters, Roarke, is leaving behind a pregnant wife, and you know, you know as soon as you learn that, that he isn't going to make it through the film. Yet it is powerful nevertheless. Because what happens is that a grenade is thrown into the midst of his team; he looks at it, and time slows down, and you find yourself asking, "What would I do? I have a wife, an unborn child at home. I can throw myself back away from it." But Roarke does what so many military men have done, including those with wives and children -- he throws himself on it and is killed, but saves the rest of his team thereby. This has particular emotional resonance with me, because my nephew Darren is in the Marines. He has served two tours in Afghanistan and came back stateside to go through special weapons training before going back for a third tour -- which has since been canceled due to the draw-down of US forces. He has a lovely young wife and an infant son, and yet he was not only willing but eager to go back to Afghanistan for that third tour. (His wife, God bless her, chewed his ass something fierce when he expressed disappointment over not being able to go back again.) Again, God bless not just the rough men who keep us safe, but their families as well. ..fritz..
1 Saw it last night. Amazing movie!
Posted by: The Shadow Knows at February 25, 2012 05:01 PM (lm8Cj)
2 wow, is it at Netflix yet?
Posted by: jeanne! with two N's and an E at February 25, 2012 05:06 PM (vXccq)
3 I have heard tell of the villainous mastermindturning out to be a secular Jew whoforces unwilling Muslims into terrorism. I don't like the sound of that. Is this true, and what did you think of it?
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at February 25, 2012 05:11 PM (8hBZi)
4 "He sees clearly that men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)
Orwell on Kypling
Posted by: VW Zao at February 25, 2012 05:13 PM (vWZa0)
Posted by: Have Blue at February 25, 2012 06:07 PM (IKTC8)
6 Posted by: Wm T Sherman at February 25, 2012 05:11 PM (8hBZi)
The enemy is very much islamic terrorists, and they are very much the bad guys. Without giving too much away the character you're referring to is an arms dealer who is Jewish but he's not masterminding anything.
Posted by: Brenden at February 25, 2012 06:11 PM (wa+SP)
7 This is the 'must see' movie among the high schoolers around here. Very refreshing.
Posted by: LASue at February 25, 2012 06:17 PM (XEegg)
8 Anyone Texas morons/ettes interested in a couple of tickets to Radiohead next Saturday at the Toyota Center in Houston?
I've got two tickets but I can't go, live in Denver and don't know anyone in Texas. They're flash seats (stupid me) so I can't sell them but I can transfer them.
All I ask is that you send me two t-shirts from the show. Obviously it would have to be honor system and I'm not going to bitch if you don't do it, but it'd be mighty nice. I just don't want two empty seats at a sold out show.
Send me an e-mail (my username at gmail) if you're interested.
Posted by: WeekendAtBernankes at February 25, 2012 06:18 PM (4gQc3)
9 The critics are giving it a 28% approval but the audience is at 85% at Rotten Tomatoes.
Posted by: fozzy at February 25, 2012 06:19 PM (FEzSe)
10 BTW with flash seats all I do is send them to you by e-mail. When you get the e-mail from them you just create an account and accept the tix.
Posted by: WeekendAtBernankes at February 25, 2012 06:20 PM (4gQc3)
11 One of the lead characters, Roarke,
Sorrym but his name was Rorke and you knew right from the beginning he wouldn't make by seeing him writing the letter, long before I knew his wife was pregnant.
And there was no dissing of anyone jewish, just the Chief asking rather incredolous "Aren't you jewish?"
Posted by: Ma Bell at February 25, 2012 06:26 PM (uVuwp)
12 Saw it last night. Very, very highly recommended.
Posted by: thirtyandseven at February 25, 2012 06:26 PM (QrNaq)
13 Was there any apologizing in this movie?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2012 06:33 PM (jucos)
14 >> Was there any apologizing in this movie?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2012 06:33 PM
Did they eat any unhealthy snacks?
Posted by: mama winger at February 25, 2012 06:35 PM (P6QsQ)
15 going to see it in 2 hrs. Booya
Posted by: ted at February 25, 2012 06:36 PM (wb4qc)
16 Did they eat any unhealthy snacks?
Posted by: mama winger at February 25, 2012 06:35 PM (P6QsQ)
I hope they didn't drink any alcohol or smoke any cigarettes in this movie.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2012 06:37 PM (jucos)
17 i hope there was no bad language......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 25, 2012 06:41 PM (Ho2rs)
18 Gonna see it in about 13-18 minutes
Posted by: Big T Party at February 25, 2012 06:43 PM (PTHJ2)
19 Amen for the deals.
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:46 PM (dBxzn)
"Well, one of the researchers, during the chaos event, observed how one of the monkeys exchanged money to another for sex. After the act was over, the monkey which was paid immediately used it to buy a grape…"
The monetary exchange wasobserved by the first monkey liberal who demanded half of the grapefor the good of the commune.
Posted by: Jimmah at February 25, 2012 06:46 PM (vj51i)
21 I too saw it last night. Excellent. Go see it.
Posted by: Dianna at February 25, 2012 06:46 PM (XFkCb)
22 My daughter is a Marine in Afghanistan. I only hope to God that she doesn't encounter any Muslims driven to shooting Americans because their filthy books were burned.
I just attended a speech by David Horowitz about radical Islam, and stealth jihad. It scared the living daylights out of me. The fact that courageous men like the SEALs in this film stand ready to protect us against these raving maniacs is something that makes me stand in awe of them, and equally makes me want to spit on the leftists who sneer at our fighting men and women and the freedom they defend.
I plan to see Act of Valor tomorrow afternoon. I'm looking forward to it.
Posted by: Lee at February 25, 2012 06:48 PM (RtwOA)
23 I love violence and the submission of terrorists
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:48 PM (dBxzn)
Saw it last night with Hubby - we both thoroughly enjoyed it. Highly recommend it!
On a completely different note - I just love seeing liberals hoisted on their own PC petard:
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at February 25, 2012 06:48 PM (0xqzf)
25 There was a HALO jump, btw, which impressed me.
Posted by: Dianna at February 25, 2012 06:49 PM (XFkCb)
26 I hate libtards and their love of peace. How I hate them so.
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:50 PM (dBxzn)
27 I hear the enemy the Marines are fighting is an evil Joo... true?
Posted by: Truman North at February 25, 2012 06:50 PM (I2LwF)
28 Hey, Theresa, I noticed you comenting and commenting well over on Hot Air. Good for you!
Posted by: Truman North at February 25, 2012 06:51 PM (I2LwF)
29 There was a HALO jump, btw, which impressed me.
Posted by: Dianna at February 25, 2012 06:49 PM (XFkCb)
Sounds dangerous. I hope they wore helmets....... I am assuming that both sides received trophies?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2012 06:52 PM (jucos)
30 The enemy is for infinite pleasure, we all fight him, and his name is Mammon.
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:52 PM (dBxzn)
31 Thanks for the positive reviews, wifey and I will definitely attend in the theater. I had the honor to work with a few of these guys and they (the SEALs) are definitely a national treasure.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2012 06:53 PM (i3+c5)
32 The enemy is material wealth or greed?
Posted by: Truman North at February 25, 2012 06:54 PM (I2LwF)
33 the enemy is self-inflicted mental retardation...
Posted by: The Deej at February 25, 2012 06:55 PM (nvxtD)
34 We should pay the Seals a bijillion dollars per year as they are worth every penny.
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:55 PM (dBxzn)
35 Posted by: Lee at February 25, 2012 06:48 PM (RtwOA)
Prayers for your daughter's well-being and all the fine young people serving this country!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2012 06:55 PM (i3+c5)
36 Can my 8 year old see this? He's the much younger 3rd son. It's R for violence not sex I'm assuming.
Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2012 06:56 PM (u50z0)
37 okay, haha, very good. Someone blow up the asshole please.
Posted by: Truman North at February 25, 2012 06:56 PM (I2LwF)
38 But maybe its all make believe
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:56 PM (dBxzn)
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 06:58 PM (dBxzn)
40 I saw the movie this afternoon. Excellent! Yes, the dialog when the Seals are not in combat is a little stilted but the combat scenes more than make up for it. And it will kind of choke you up at the end when you think about who these guys really are and what they do for us and our country,
Posted by: Mr. Al U Fods at February 25, 2012 06:58 PM (+BkI8)
41 you mean "make believe" as in an egalitarian socialist utopia brought to us by political hacks? That kind of make believe?
Posted by: The Deej at February 25, 2012 06:58 PM (nvxtD)
42 A friend of mine who died about 5 years ago (heart attack, not in battle) was a Seal. He was a well educated guy who understood how the world worked. He wasn't a "rough guy" per se at all and could socialize and have a discussion at any social strata's level from the gutter to a formal Whitehouse function.
That's the strength of the Seals -- adaptability to any situation, hostile or civil. They're "rough" only when roughness is called for.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 25, 2012 06:58 PM (s5tFV)
43 Why are seals 80 percent white? Hmmmnnn
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:00 PM (dBxzn)
44 I've been on Duty this Weekend and we talked about "Act Of Valor" a bit, but one of our Docs just got back from Afghanistan and another is getting ready to go again and ,especially in light of assholes killing and rioting over those G-D damn stupid Korans, we talked about the futility of what we are doing there and all the great and decent American we are losing. It really is very sad and it is casting a discernible pale over all talk of the "War"
Posted by: nevergiveup at February 25, 2012 07:01 PM (eCnLg)
45 I love the Seals so much, I think I am gay
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:02 PM (dBxzn)
46 Wheres the AceHole? Lets talk about Mildred Pearce, episode 5
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:09 PM (dBxzn)
47 That guyneeded SgtMaj Kellogg, USMC (ret) to give a training class on how to jump on a grenade and survive.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2012 07:15 PM (rX1N2)
48 What is this 'valor' you speak of? Is it like bravely ratting out your parents for not recycling?
Posted by: George Lakoff at February 25, 2012 07:16 PM (kwAf2)
49 Definitely want to see this movie. Have been looking forward to it ever since I heard about it and saw the trailer. Unfortunately, most of my friends are either liberals or not into action movies. Gonna have to see this on my own.
Great to hear that it seems to be living up to the hype. Well, at least the big hype it has gotten online. Not sure how much TV hype it had?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 25, 2012 07:19 PM (vUK/h)
@41 Gee, I dunno Ick - why are 82% of the NBA's players black? Hmmm.....
@28 - Thanks, Truman! I'm getting better at this "commenting" thing -
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at February 25, 2012 07:19 PM (0xqzf)
51 Sorry - that should have been directed at comment #43, not #41
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at February 25, 2012 07:21 PM (0xqzf)
Was there any apologizing in this movie?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2012 06:33 PM (jucos)
No but there was a piece about dragging the SCOAMF off the golf course to watch the SEALS take down the enemy and he cried, not when they took down the enemy when they drug him off the golf course! /s
Just got back from it it was very good, very well done and I didn't notice any amateur acting.
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Sub Mitt at February 25, 2012 07:24 PM (nonzP)
53 Kate is such a dunce, I wonder
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:25 PM (dBxzn)
54 Why does she always have that blind look on her face?
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:28 PM (dBxzn)
55 Navy SEALs are fags
Posted by: ForceRecon at February 25, 2012 07:37 PM (7ERDi)
56 "While it is doubtful that George Orwell ever said, "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf," "
He did write ""Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf." But the "sleep in beds/rough men stand ready" imagery (probably inspired by the St Crispin's Day speech in Henry V?) is a much better line.
He *should* have said it.
- Stuff Orwell Said, Vol. III
Posted by: Knemon at February 25, 2012 07:48 PM (r1jNE)
57 It was also the sentiment behind Zell Miller's barnburner at the 2004 GOP convention.
Remember when he challenged Chris Matthews to a duel after that?
The best of times.
Posted by: Knemon at February 25, 2012 07:53 PM (r1jNE)
Just saw it. EXCELLENT! Mostly men in the audience, and the theater was so attentive during the movie and silent at the end. Everyone filed out quietly. I don't think this is a kid movie. Sure my 10 yo plays "black ops" etc., but the film is very intense. There is rough language like you would imagine any military/police/fire etc. talk. It's not excessive in any way. The hostage is tortured and it's all very implied, but pretty brutal for kids. I guess the main takeaway it that it's very REAL. That's my two cents +.
Posted by: Sacmom at February 25, 2012 07:54 PM (Dxk9z)
59 I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pick-up truck
But I knew that I was out of luck
The day the music died
I started singing
"Bye, bye, Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Posted by: Ick at February 25, 2012 07:57 PM (dBxzn)
60 The book was shit... one of those Tom Clancy spin-offswith his name on the cover. Seal Team Six or Heart and the Fist were more interesting to me, although I haven't read most of H/F.
Posted by: Jordan at February 25, 2012 07:57 PM (RSG1I)
61 This might actually get my ass into a theater for the first time in years...
Posted by: FORGER - Monster Hunter at February 25, 2012 08:28 PM (pAEX+)
Terrific, very powerful movie. Took my two teenage sons - the audience was mostly single guys between 18 and 30. It was all the more powerful to me knowing that these guys were the real thing and NOT actors. And I don't mind saying - some of them are FINE. We also walked out in silence, and didn't say much on the way home, either - except that the action scenes are pretty awesome. It also occurred to me that if I might be violently ill if I hear hat SCOAMF take credit one more time for "getting bin Laden" - it should be to his eternal shame to take credit for the efforts of men like these who are far better than he will ever hope to be.
Posted by: Ohiogal at February 25, 2012 08:54 PM (SAYgH)
63 I've been on Duty this Weekend and we talked about "Act Of Valor" a bit,
but one of our Docs just got back from Afghanistan and another is
getting ready to go again and ,especially in light of assholes killing
and rioting over those G-D damn stupid Korans, we talked about the
futility of what we are doing there and all the great and decent
American we are losing. It really is very sad and it is casting a
discernible pale over all talk of the "War"
What we're doing over there isn't futile. It's the Afghans who are futile.
We took the Afghans at their word, that they would be worthy of the sacrifice we were making. They lied.
Never blame yourself. Your actions would be accepted gratefully by a functional society. Whatever is going wrong over there is 100 percent the fault of the primitive, corrupt, violent, illiterate, tribal, fundamentalist, and utterly subpar Afghan culture.
Posted by: Llarry at February 25, 2012 09:05 PM (Rnfm0)
64 Great movie, glad I could see it opening weekend. Very cool to see a movie where the military are 100% the good guys- with no caveats. I hope it crushes the competition
Posted by: Cap'n crunch at February 25, 2012 09:06 PM (lghiK)
65 I know the 'military guy who gets killed with a pregnant wife/wife with young kids back home' trope will strike a lot of people as corny and over-used and result in a lot of eye-rolling. Believe me, when it actually happens (and I've seen it happen once when I was flying Pave's back in 2003) to someone you know, you'll pray to God you never have to see it again. It's awful, just about the worst thing you can witness. And you know it will only get a little bit better once a lot of time has passed. But it will always suck and you feel horrible every time you see the widow, even though you know she needs all the love and support she can get.
The guy that I knew really well who was in this situation, 'Plummer', was killed when his helicopter crashed after losing engine power in Afghanistan. He had switched rotations with me the year before so he could be home with his prematurely born son who, honestly, no one was sure was going to survive. The son, Gavyn, survived and everyone breathed a sigh of relief, thinking that disaster had been averted. Then Plummer was killed a year later and the whole world fell apart for Plummer's wife.
So definitely go see the movie. Pay tribute to the SEALs and the SWCC guys. But stop and think about all those names you see at the end, the guys with widows and orphaned kids still living in a nightmare to this day. I knew Matt Mason, one of the SEALs killed in that Chinook crash last year. Wouldn't consider him a close friend but I did hang out with him quite a bit in Africa back in 2002, doing some MMA training with him and some other SEALs in Team Three. He was an awesome guy, one of those people you wished you lived next door to and saw every day. I still think about him all the time, same as I think about Plummer and his family and everyone else I've known who didn't make it back.
So I guess I'm ambivalent about seeing the movie myself. I want to see it for all the obvious reasons, but yet, I really don't want to be reminded of all the guys I knew who didn't make it back and walk out of the theater feeling lower than dirt. Maybe I'll watch it on DVD in a few months, that might be a nice compromise...
Posted by: Pave Low John at February 25, 2012 09:12 PM (ue6kh)
66 I just got back from Act of Valor. I liked it. An excellent message.
Posted by: Penfold at February 25, 2012 09:21 PM (4jMRd)
67 Just got back from seeing it with my two teenaged boys, GREAT movie, it even won over my youngest who was a little reluctant about it! (but now he's asking for a boat with a mini gun for his 16th... sheesh)
Posted by: Another Spec at February 25, 2012 09:51 PM (QogyV)
68 Saw it. good flic. worth it.
Posted by: teamguy at February 25, 2012 09:55 PM (aq5QU)
69 A few commenters with young sons (8, 10, young teens) have asked if this movie would be appropriate. I have a 12 year old who wants to see it. We've barely let him see anything over PG. I understand this film has surprisingly little language but very realistic crime and war violence to garner its R rating. Can anyone who's seen the film advice on age appropriateness?
Posted by: MostlyRight at February 25, 2012 10:12 PM (ZG8Ti)
70 Very realistic violence, R for a good reason.
Senior Chief uses the World's Most Interesting Man as a foot-warmer.
Posted by: motionview at February 25, 2012 10:31 PM (i+DU3)
71 "Age-appropriate" is always a hard call. Lots of folks get killed, but most of it is not (by Hollywood standards) graphic, particularly when compared to, say, LOTR or Raiders of the Lost Ark. I suspect the R rating is more for the multiple uses of the F-word, but even that isn't overdone, and it's frankly mostly pretty natural rather than gratuitous. Your call as a parent, but I wouldn't have had any problem taking my kids to see this back when they were 12+. ..fritz..
Posted by: fritzworth at February 25, 2012 10:35 PM (7svyX)
Posted by: kadin at February 25, 2012 10:59 PM (cZh/D)
73 Just saw it with one of my boys. Loved it. Acting a little stiff, but understandable. Excellent message.
Posted by: Chicago Voter at February 25, 2012 10:59 PM (qZb8X)
74 Great movie. Saw it this afternoon with my two teenage boys. We were very quiet after the movie but then starting talking at dinner and didnt stop for about two hours. Action scenes were incredible. I almost hyperventilated when they opened up those mini-guns on the bad guys during the extraction scene.
I too wasn't prepared for the list of SEALs who have died since 9/11. Brought me to tears as did the pinning of the SEAL insignia's on the casket near the end of the movie. My wife worked with Danny Dietz's sister when he was killed in Afghanistan (see Lone Survivor by Marcus Luttrell). I have met Danny's mother, father and sister and I attended a memorial service when a statue was dedicated in his honor on July 4th a number of years ago. Cried like a baby when his Seal Team also left their insignias at the base of his statue.
I will also never forget the turn-out for Danny's memorial service/statue dedication. This was the height of the war-bashing and Bush-Bashing by the liberal left (and I think before the surge in Iraq) when it was held. I was very concerned at the time that all the bad news had left people war-weary and that it wouldn't get the attention it deserved especially with July 4th holiday happening during mid-week. As I walked around the corner and down the long street where the park and memorial statue is placed, I was stunned and brought to tears by what looked like ten thousand people who had taken time away from their happy holiday celebrations on the July 4th holiday and instead were there to honor the ultimate sacrifice given by Danny and his SEAL brothers for our country.
Posted by: Fustigator at February 25, 2012 11:14 PM (wr+Bb)
75 "Can my 8 year old see this? He's the much younger 3rd son. It's R for violence not sex I'm assuming." "I have a 12 year old who wants to see it."
Just saw it. We considered it a patriotic duty. Highly recommended... for adults.
Scenes with families, etc are the weak part and I found them boring and cliche. They are present, I'm sure, to create an attachment
for the characters and their families and to honor those on the
homefront, but it slowed the movie and were right out of Trope 101. Still, go see it, if only to encourage the making of films which show the military in a respectful light.
**FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN APPROPRIATENESS FOR KIDS****SPOILERS**
I think 8 is a bit young for this film, but 12 is probably OK. I would say it's a "know your kid" situation. Of course there is violence-- it's a military ops movie-- but the majority of it is firing guns, explosions, and blood smears/pools/splattering.
The worst part regarding violence is in the open, and what pisses me off about it is that it could have been easily avoided. The capture and torture of a female American CIA agent is graphically depicted (she is struck several times, and a baddie is shown gearing up a drill, she is heard screaming, holes in her hands are shown, there's lots of chains and blood.) It bothered me and I had to turn away, but then I'm ultra-sensitive to that kind of thing and I therefore otherwise almost never watch movies like this.
I recommend that you wait for it on DVD and just start the movie for kiddos after the first 15-20 minutes or so, when the SEALs are briefed. You are told everything you need to know in that scene. The violence thereafter is mostly of the video game variety.
All of those scenes could have been cut and her story told through the briefing and showing her terrible physical condition when she was rescued by the SEALs. It was probably shown to highlight the brutality of her captors so that the audience would root for the SEALs from the outset. Then again I'm a fan of "imagination is always worse than what's shown", so whateves.
Lots of f-bombs, but it's not like it's every other word.
No sex. I really respected the fact that there was no lameass love story subplot.
Posted by: Filly at February 25, 2012 11:15 PM (u6ZqI)
76 Just saw it. Highly recommend it, very moving and kick ass.
Posted by: ted at February 25, 2012 11:18 PM (wb4qc)
77 kids not recommended. Lots of head shots.
Posted by: ted at February 25, 2012 11:18 PM (wb4qc)
78 I saw it a few hours ago. The action sequences were all fantastic. The dialog was clunky. But if you know anyone who is in the military now or recently, it's that respectful and terse way of speaking that military folks speak with now days. You expect there to be some scenes were the guys would let their guard down (like with the wife you're leaving behind), but it doesn't happen.
Good points: The firefight scenes were great. The plot of the story was interesting.
Some bad points: The story line takes place over 4 to 8 months. You don't know that, except if you pay close attention to how pregnant the wife at home is. The main bad guys does a bit too much to be believable. And lots of the explosions were too fireball-y.
Oh...and Otto is cool.
Posted by: Xmas at February 25, 2012 11:20 PM (lGd0q)
79 Saw it with my 17 year old son - we've been anxiously awaiting it since we first saw the stunning trailer a few months ago. The wait was worth it and we'll go see it again to help make it a box office success, and send a message to Hellwood.
The long list of fallen SEALs at the end is heartbreaking, and I almost broke the vapid faces of the two teenage twits who stood up in front of us and giggled at each other while the list was scrolling.
Posted by: Heidi For Texas at February 25, 2012 11:21 PM (o1478)
80 Also, I really liked the first-person shooter perspective with the controlled breathing.
Posted by: Heidi For Texas at February 25, 2012 11:23 PM (o1478)
81 I didn't think the violence was too graphic maybe more real sounding, but kids with x box war games are probably subjected to as much violence as this. the torture scene was tuff to watch but again not as bad as 90% of the horror shows or chain saw or saw shows!
I guess it was the context it was not just violence for violence sake it was tastefully folded into the plot
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Sub Mitt at February 25, 2012 11:28 PM (nonzP)
Posted by: kadin at February 25, 2012 11:39 PM (cZh/D)
83 Saw it, and let me echo those recommending it.
One contention I have with the reviewer is about it not being PC...
I have to say I have a bit of a problem with the Muslim terrorist leader being Russian and his organization being Filipino. It just feels a little forced that there were zero Middle Eastern terrorists. It kept reminding me of how The Sum of All Fears used neo-nazis instead of islamic militants. Minor nit-pick though.
Posted by: ubermosher at February 26, 2012 09:22 AM (smpaX)
84 Thank heaven one of the two main villains is a Jewish billionaire drug dealer.
Posted by: davod at February 26, 2012 09:37 AM (C5U9L)
85 @83: He's a Chechen, and he and the Filipino bombers are all CLEARLY identified as Muslim Terrorists, with absolutely not hesitation to describe them as such which was SUCH a relief. Definitely was NOT a Sum of All Fears situation.
Posted by: DKS at February 26, 2012 12:11 PM (r+34Y)
86 That's more than a Hollywood trope.
Where I live, just before Christmas the local midwife delivered the posthumous infant of a military man who died in Afghanistan just a few weeks before he was supposed to come home.
Posted by: DeputyHeadmistress at February 26, 2012 11:41 PM (mhcif)
im not a cryer. but after seeing what those men did in that movie really touched. i love seeing how close they are as men. it makes me want to experience that and really makes me think about going into the navy
Posted by: robert at March 06, 2012 01:15 PM (AoGQz)
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AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)