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Yay! We get to bail out homeowners who are under water on their mortgages! What if you've sacrificed and been prudent and bought a house you can afford? What if you decided to rent instead? Well, no money for you...SUCKER! (And of course this deal only involves private sector banks but not Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Because, you know, they're protected.) This is at least in part a result of the banks' "robo-signing" scandal, so I have a limited amount of pity for whatever hardship they bear; what irks me is that a relatively small portion of homeowners will be "helped" while taxpayers must once again bear the major part of the burden.

The Greek bailout travesty just keeps dragging on and on. I expect some face-saving last-minute "agreement" to be announced some time today, but it won't really mean anything.

Why we are DOOMed, in a nutshell: 49% of US households now the recipient of government cheese. Half of the households in this country are now on the dole to some extent, which means that a huge percentage of the population is now personally invested in not only perpetuating the welfare state, but enlarging it.

Rep. Paul Ryan is still beating the DOOM drum. He's making the same point I am: we don't have an unlimited amount of time to address our fiscal problems. We have maybe five to ten years to put the brakes on and start getting this runaway train under control.

Peter Ferrara delivers a savage rhetorical beating to Ann Coulter. Which she richly deserved.

Your stimulus tax-dollars hard at work: Los Angeles pays to have city-owned luxury yacht upgraded with "environmentally friendly" engines at a cost of half a mill. In other news: the city of Los Angeles owns a luxury yacht.

Mickey Kaus endorses ending unionism as we know it. Kaus is talking about unions in the private sector, though, when the real danger is public-sector unions. Public-sector unions should simply be outlawed -- it was a mistake to ever allow public-sector workers to unionize in the first place.

Ever since the 2008 crash, all eyes have been on the residential real-estate market. However, commercial real-estate may be the next shock to the system.

Having wrecked the banks, the Fed moves on to money market funds.

The cost of the regulatory state is one of those "unseen" things Bastiat was talking about. I'm not one of those anarcho-capitalists who advocate for no oversight at all, but clearly we have tipped the scales too far in terms of regulation. A lighter regulatory hand would promote faster growth. (Just consider the expense and bureaucratic headaches of complying with Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank, and how little benefit we taxpayers actually receive from either of those two regulatory regimes.)

Even as die-hard a liberal as Michael Hiltzik of the LAT finds that moving manufacturing back to Amercia is easier said than done.

Still, there's no escaping the pitiless facts of the international labor market. The average wage of Pioneer's manufacturing workers is about $18 an hour, Rosenstein says, including benefits. (Pioneer offers health coverage, though Rosenstein says the cost has been rising for ever-narrowing benefits.) Pioneer has done some manufacturing in Mexico for 35 years, and moved into China about a decade ago. Taking into consideration all expenses, the manufacturing cost of an item in China or Mexico might be from 10% to 25% that of the U.S. That differential will cover a lot of logistical downside.

If liberals actually get the "post-American world" they've been relentlessly pushing for so long, I doubt they'll like the results. But then, liberals never care much for outcomes; good intentions are all that's required. That may be the epitaph on America's gravestone: WE MEANT WELL.

LauraW has been all over the recent dust-up between the HHS and, well, every person of faith in the country. Left-leaning people of faith, especially Catholics, have had the scales rudely ripped from their eyes by the Obama administration. I wish I were more hopeful that this would lead to a re-examination of their liberal leanings, but I doubt it.

Peter Orszag: You know what we need? SKYNET! After all, isn't a bureaucrat-run technocracy the dream to which we've all been striving lo these many years?

California to taxpayers: "Relax, baby! This won't hurt a bit!"

CalSTRS: "It only looks like we're boned from where you're sitting. If you could see the sooper-seekrit numbers we have, you wouldn't be so alarmed. And no, you can't see our numbers. Because they're secret."

New York: the guys get shirts. That's just the f**king way it is. Mr. Paul Anka nods approvingly.

Being single is a luxury. It really is true that two can live more cheaply than one -- you get all of the economies of scale. This is really the first age of the world where remaining single was really an option for someone reasonably sound of body -- marriage in nearly all of history was less a romantic adventure than an economic partnership. In fact, you can argue that the institution of marriage started going seriously downhill when it became a romantic enterprise. Love is fickle. (Funny line in the comments: "Women are like Wi-Fi. They see all the available devices, but connect only to the strongest one." Whereas men are more like Bluetooth: they connect to whatever is closest.)

Staffers at WaPo will now get to experience the joys of funemployment in His Majesty's happy kingdom.


Posted by: Monty at 08:38 AM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:39 AM (8y9MW)

2 what irks me is that a relatively small portion of homeowners will be
"helped" while taxpayers must once again bear the major part of the
burden.


What irks me is that I'm one of those responsible ones who won't get helped. When I lost my job (right after my wife had our first child, even better) we worked with the bank and scrimped and saved everywhere else we could to get current and then stay that way.

As part of that dedication to fiscal sanity, we just refinanced into a fixed-rate mortgage (saving something like 3% on interest, to boot). Now the government is telling me (as part of the 50% that actually pays net taxes) that I have to pay for the people who weren't responsible, and didn't look ahead to the "what-if" scenarios to make sure they were only buying as much house as they could afford.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:44 AM (8y9MW)

3 We have become the Greeks now Monty. A nation of government tit suckers.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:48 AM (YdQQY)

4 Good piece about the Citizen's United decision and media distortion here:
http://tinyurl.com/77pd49b
The administration's recent embrace of SuperPACs should serve as a warning.
This medium will be corrupted to the greatest extent possible to Obama's benefit in 2012.
It will then be denounced as a Wall Street manipulation tool by all on the left and framed by the media as a republican cheating mechanic.
This is all too predictable. And most of the mentally deficient electorate will buy into it.

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at February 09, 2012 08:48 AM (BuYeH)

5 And the bankers get to pocket those sweet fees for refinancing. I predict big bonuses.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at February 09, 2012 08:50 AM (lgw0N)

6 Well, I see you have that next. Anyway 76 million Americans now receive
an average of $33750 a year in federal aid. This is more than the
average wage!

And only 50% are paying any taxes.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:50 AM (YdQQY)

7 Mickey Kaus. Is that the same Mickey Kaus that supports/supported Obamacare? That Mickey Kaus?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 08:52 AM (rX1N2)

8 SMOD/DOOM 2012!

For the Children.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 08:52 AM (DTX4S)

9 Why does the city of Las Angeles have a luxury yacht to begin with?

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)

10 Speaking of DOOM, I see Drudge still has Hildebeast's pic up.

Hilary, hon. Shampoo, a stylist, and a plastic surgeon are your friends.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 08:53 AM (UOM48)

11 Peter Ferrara delivers a savage rhetorical beating to Ann Coulter. Which she richly deserved.

Okay, that was one massive rhetorical beat-down. And right on the money.

I don't always read all the links in the DOOM thread. If you're like me: this is one not to skip.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:53 AM (8y9MW)

12 Why does the city of Las Angeles have a luxury yacht to begin with?
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)


The ocean is close by?

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 08:54 AM (DTX4S)

13 My man-crush on Paul Ryan just keeps growing.

He seems to be the only sane one out there.

Posted by: GergS at February 09, 2012 08:54 AM (dptRY)

14 Public-sector unions should simply be outlawed -- it was a mistake to
ever allow public-sector workers to unionize in the first place.
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Thank JFK and a Democrap Congress for that. But no Republican Congress has ever had the balls to reverse it even though unions NEVER support Republicans.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:54 AM (YdQQY)

15 This is what pisses me off. In college I chose a major with at least some marketability in the real world. I then graduated and chose to join the Army in order to pay off my debts and gain experience. I spent my deployment savings paying off the last of my college loans and paying down the principle on my mortgage. I've tried to do the responsible thing every time, and now I get to watch as those who weren't responsible, who didn't plan ahead, get to reap the benefits.

Posted by: Alex at February 09, 2012 08:54 AM (L/4gD)

16 "However,commercial real estate may be the next shock to the system."

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Yeah, all those empty storefronts at malls and strip malls? Companies moving to less expensive office space and no one moving in to replace them?

"Shock" is putting it mildly.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 08:55 AM (rX1N2)

17 Why does the city of Las Angeles have a luxury yacht to begin with?

It was cheaper than renting one for all those glitzy parties.

Posted by: Alex at February 09, 2012 08:56 AM (L/4gD)

18 Why does the city of Las Angeles have a luxury yacht to begin with?

I'm probably in the minority on the site on this one, but just the fact that LA has a luxury yacht doesn't bother me. One of the things that LA "sells" about itself is the ocean, so you'd want a very, very nice way to show that off when you're trying to get companies to open stores/warehouses/whatever in your town.

Now, I'm not okay with the "green engines" thing- I think that's stupid and wasteful. But I get why a city like LA would want to be able to use a luxury yacht to woo potential big donors, businesses, and the like.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

19 On the "regulatory State" we passed the point of no return long ago. There are simply no federal regulations that actually work (meaning they do what they were advertised to do) and very few State regulations that work.

We would be better off if we totally eliminated all of them, fired everyone in the agencies and started over from scratch with minimum.

Manufacturers have been saying for years that wages are not what is driving U.S. businesses overseas, it is regulations.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:57 AM (YdQQY)

20 Thank JFK and a Democrap Congress for that. But no Republican Congress has ever had the balls to reverse it even though unions NEVER support Republicans.
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:54 AM (YdQQY)

The GOP has no balls, no ovaries, and not even the stem cells to make them.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 08:57 AM (DTX4S)

21
I wish I were more hopeful that this would lead to a re-examination of their liberal leanings, but I doubt it.
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It's incurable. At best you can hope to deprogram one for a couple of hours, but it is quickly reset back to stupidity.

Posted by: Jimmah at February 09, 2012 08:58 AM (R/Y92)

22 But no Republican Congress has ever had the balls to reverse it even though unions NEVER support Republicans.

"They hate the Working Man!"

C'mon, you know that's all we'd hear if the idea even ever came up. So, while I don't like the fact that the Republicans are gutless on this issue, and it's no excuse, I understand their reason for not doing so.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

23 But I get why a city like LA would want to be able to use a luxury yacht to woo potential big donors, businesses, and the like.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

They should try low taxes and a few hot movie stars instead.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 08:59 AM (DTX4S)

24 So kitteh wants a boat?

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 08:59 AM (YdQQY)

25 They should try low taxes and a few hot movie stars instead.

That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:00 AM (8y9MW)

26 Oh for crying out loud. Stupid WND has a "poll" saying 20% of Republicans will vote for Barky.

And all 20% of them have to wear helmets when they leave the house.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 09:01 AM (UOM48)

27 I don't always read all the links in the DOOM thread. If you're like me: this is one not to skip.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:53 AM (8y9MW)

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The only real quibble I had with it was when he said that constitutional provisions were irrelevant regarding Coulter's painfully stupid remark about no difference between defense and healthcare. One is clearly provided for in the Constitution, the other is not, no matter how much you beat that commerce clause.

He should have slaughtered her on that one. But minus that minor point, he slaughtered her anyway.

I've never really liked her that much, but this gives me a good, solid reason now.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 09:01 AM (rX1N2)

28 Thomas Sowell lays out realities on the GOP primary.

link at my nic

Posted by: maddogg at February 09, 2012 09:02 AM (OlN4e)

29 C'mon, you know that's all we'd hear if the idea even ever came up. So, while I don't like the fact that the Republicans are gutless on this issue, and it's no excuse, I understand their reason for not doing so.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

Quite understandable. Thus, they are useless and should sell paint for a living instead.

If the GOP is not ready and able to fight for change, WTF good are they?

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (DTX4S)

30 NEW YORK (AP) -- PepsiCo
plans to cut 8,700 jobs, or about 3 percent of its workforce, as it
seeks to offset high commodity costs and increases investment in
advertising and marketing in North America.



This should make the unemployment rate drop to 8%

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (1Jaio)

31 Coulter jumped the Shark in 2008. Tat is also about the time I quit buying her books. Now I don't read her columns or get her books from the library.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (YdQQY)

32 But I get why a city like LA would want to be able to use a luxury yacht to woo potential big donors, businesses, and the like.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

*************

Because they sure as hell aren't wooing them with actual policies, regulations, and incentives(the city'sactual job). No wonder that city is boned.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 09:05 AM (rX1N2)

33 Coulter jumped the Shark in 2008. Tat is also about the time I quit buying her books. Now I don't read her columns or get her books from the library.
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (YdQQY)

Yeah, something snapped.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:05 AM (DTX4S)

34 >>What if you've sacrificed and been prudent and bought a house you can
afford? What if you decided to rent instead? Well, no money for
you...SUCKER!

I swear, I'm one more week of Mandatory Overtime away from dropping out of the workforce and spending the rest of my life "in school", living off Section 8 and food stamps and loans I'll never repay because I won't stop enrolling in degree programs until I'm days from death.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 09, 2012 09:06 AM (ZKzrr)

35 >>PepsiCo
plans to cut 8,700 jobs


The Democrats' war on their product can't help, either.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 09, 2012 09:07 AM (ZKzrr)

36 The only real quibble I had with it was when he said that constitutional
provisions were irrelevant regarding Coulter's painfully stupid remark
about no difference between defense and healthcare. One is clearly
provided for in the Constitution, the other is not, no matter how much
you beat that commerce clause.


I don't think he was saying that the constitutional provisions were irrelevant, he was saying they weren't required to debunk Coulter's painfully, and poorly, constructed rationalization.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:07 AM (8y9MW)

37 WASHINGTON — Drawing on a string of improved economic data, advisers
to President Obama have updated their forecasts in recent days and now
project that the economy will create two million jobs this year if
stimulus measures are extended, which could reduce the unemployment rate
to about 8 percent by year’s end.

Alan B. Krueger, chairman of the president’s Council of Economic
Advisers, confirmed the revised projection for the economic figure that
is the most important one to Mr. Obama’s re-election prospects.





And the chocolate ration is going up too!!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2012 09:08 AM (1Jaio)

38 I can haz bailout?

So, my house appraises for exactly what I owe but of course that won't cover paying the agent so it looks like my agent is going to get a bailout.

Posted by: Scott J at February 09, 2012 09:08 AM (WAhu6)

39 33, as skinny as she is any number of things could have snapped.

Posted by: Scott J at February 09, 2012 09:09 AM (WAhu6)

40 The thing is, if you believed in the DOOM, you would support Ron Paul. Or if you can't bring yourself to do that because of newsletters, or whatever, you'd just sit out the GOP primary as an irrelevant and distracting sideshow.
But you don't, which leads me to suspect you don't really believe it, kind of like the Left with Guantanamo.

Posted by: Gabriel M at February 09, 2012 09:10 AM (aycEY)

41 What was the big issue in 2010
If I remember correctly it was to stop the out of control spending.
How come that hasn't stopped ?

Posted by: MarkC at February 09, 2012 09:11 AM (Kf68R)

42 Now I don't read her columns or get her books from the library.
Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (YdQQY) Coulter started dating Bill Maher about that time.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 09, 2012 09:11 AM (mFxQX)

43 Ah, let's send in a nurse! "Let me go on, I'm not yielding my time."

http : // www . youtube. com/watch?v=31owQr9pyl0

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 09:11 AM (oZfic)

44 Some Anti-DOOM from Michigan via Drudge's Twitter feed: http://nyti.ms/zFbr5K

Looks like those EEEvil Republicans are succeeding in getting Michigan turned around. It's still early, but a $450 million surplus and actual revenue growth is better in 1 year than Democrats have done in a few decades.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)

45 The GOP is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 09:11 AM (YdQQY)

46 Did we really need a study to tell us that it's cheaper to live married? Is anyone not aware of the financial benefits? It's the simplest math there is. So why do these articles keep coming out to remind us of the obvious?The reason is because the singles consume too much and are selfish and evil, evil, evil. They take up an entire house/apartment by themselves! Evil. They drivearound burning up gas by themselves! Evil. And, of course, feminists hate unchained males who don't serve as a work horse for some woman. As a single dude I'm the enemy, somehow, even though I pay all my bills, do not suck the public teet, have not knocked up any women,and pay more than 1/3 of my income in tax. The note in the article, and the study it references, suggesting a causal link between marriage and higher income is, at best, a stretch. Once again it confuses correlation and causation. Chicks want to marry up, marry a prosperous provider. They don't marry the cool drummer they shag in college. The fact that the cited study examined shotgun weddings was not helpful - what man doesn't know that pregnancy is often used as a trap?Should poor people get married rather than just hook up, get knocked up, squirt out brats, and go their separate ways? Sure. No question. But we all know that no economic analysis will persuade them to act like they're middle class. Pop culture is working hard to insure that slum culture is seen as good/cool/hip - and all other ways of life seen as artificial (except making it big as an athlete or actoror some othernon-productive entertainer). Singles aren't the problem. American pop culture is the problem, along with our nationaldesire to subsidize underclass life.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 09, 2012 09:12 AM (xUM1Q)

47 Now the government is telling me (as part of the 50%
that actually pays net taxes) that I have to pay for the people who
weren't responsible, and didn't look ahead to the "what-if" scenarios to
make sure they were only buying as much house as they could afford.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 08:44 AM (8y9MW)


Welcome to the party, pal. There's absolutely no incentive these daze to do the right thing, nor has there been for a long time. If you had an identical twin and you, from the moment your child was born, began to diligently sacrifice and save for your child's kollidge edumacation while your twin spent all his jack on hookers and blow, guess who the school of choice would reward with financial aid and who would have to pay the full freight while subsidizing the fucking deadbeats?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2012 09:13 AM (tUZpS)

48 The GOP is rapidly becoming irrelevant

Indeed. Were it not so important to get the SCOAMF out of office I'd say this would be a great year for a 3rd party candidate to send the GOP the way of the Whigs.

Posted by: Scott J at February 09, 2012 09:13 AM (WAhu6)

49 I see that many of you seem to have line spacing that works out. Is there some trick to that I can learn? This formatting problemis upsetting.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 09, 2012 09:13 AM (xUM1Q)

50 Yeah, something snapped.

Menopause.

Posted by: bi-curiously vicarious at February 09, 2012 09:14 AM (ZCMDs)

51 Good morning, morons/ettes!

Path to a brokered convention (via RCP):
http://tinyurl.com/7ta8pn6

Has a map of who won which counties.

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:14 AM (5H6zj)

52 It cannot be said enough, if you cannot afford you mortgage there is a problem. And it is YOUR fucking problem. Quit expecting others to bail you out. that is what bankruptcy is for.

Posted by: Joe TX at work, all in for SMOD. at February 09, 2012 09:14 AM (pjusE)

53 Triple return for line spacing.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2012 09:15 AM (YdQQY)

54 Reactionary,
I am just typing normally on a Mac running Safari. It seems to preserve line breaks and spaces.

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:16 AM (5H6zj)

55
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2012 09:13 AM (tUZpS)

Well said indeed. The only motivation to do well is to help insulate yourself from those who do not do well. I pay a healthy sum in property tax to insulate myself from the noxious presence of the underclass. If I moved to a slum area I could knock years off the time it takes me to retire, but it's just not worth it to me (and I HATE working). I don't want to be around that element.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 09, 2012 09:16 AM (xUM1Q)

56 Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2012 09:03 AM (1Jaio)

I could see that coming when they stopped calling me for deliveries every week, then moved their delivery schedule to everythree weeks instead of two. You'll probably see it soon in big janitorial/uniform supply companies as well.

Now that the seaonal hires are going back to whatever they were doing before, expect the Unexpected™ talk to crank up again. Gas is already starting to spike, and that's just going to exacerbate it.

I think the collapse is coming faster than Obama and Co., LLC thought it would and they and their Media Contractors know they are ill equipped to cope. This summer is going to be unreal on every front.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 09:16 AM (rX1N2)

57 SMOD 2012 - When there are no more people, there can be no more welfare.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 09, 2012 09:16 AM (+inic)

58
Thanks for info Vic and Y-Not!

Posted by: Reactionary at February 09, 2012 09:17 AM (xUM1Q)

59 40The thing is, if you believed in the DOOM, you would support Ron Paul. Or if you can't bring yourself to do that because of newsletters, or whatever, you'd just sit out the GOP primary as an irrelevant and distracting sideshow.
But you don't, which leads me to suspect you don't really believe it, kind of like the Left with Guantanamo.Posted by: Gabriel M at February 09, 2012 09:10 AM (aycEY)
One can believe that we are in deep trouble without necessarily accepting the worst case scenario as inevitable. Perhaps being a historian of a pre-modern era gives me a different perspective, but I noticed a while back that people not only lived but thrived in situations that we would regard as intolerable. Also, I doubt Ron Paul would actual be able to accomplish anything worthwhile, all his rhetoric to the contrary.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 09, 2012 09:17 AM (fIyGy)

60 I see that many of you seem to have line spacing that works out. Is there some trick to that I can learn? This formatting problemis upsetting.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 09, 2012 09:13 AM (xUM1Q)


The Goddess Irony finds it amusing that my Safari browser, which ignored all the fancy tools at the HQ, is equally immune to the current troubles.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:17 AM (DTX4S)

61 @ 31 Coulter jumped the Shark in 2008. Tat is also about the time I quit buying her books. Now I don't read her columns or get her books from the library.
...
That's okay - I don't believe in reading anywise. Reading is for sissies.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 09, 2012 09:18 AM (+inic)

62 guess who the school of choice would reward with financial aid and who
would have to pay the full freight while subsidizing the fucking
deadbeats?


I don't have to guess.

Though I have a plan...

See, the FAFSA only counts your parent's income if you count as a dependent. Therefore (in theory, I think I'll ask a lawyer before I do this, though), if you had the money to send kiddo to college, and placed it all in an account in their own name (over several years), they could go to college that first year on those savings, not take a dime of money from you, and then the next year they get to claim they're no one's dependent AND that they had little or no income.

As I understand the rules, that should qualify them for the Maximum Pell Grant, as well as any number of other "need based" scholarships.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:18 AM (8y9MW)

63 I don't think he was saying that the constitutional provisions were irrelevant, he was saying they weren't required to debunk Coulter's painfully, and poorly, constructed rationalization.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:07 AM (8y9MW)
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Oh I know, I'm just saying he should have done it anyway. Like a good spike and dance in the endzone.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 09:18 AM (rX1N2)

64 "THEVOTEPUMP"http: / /www . youtube .com/watch?v =u24nH03NccIfeature=player_embedded
What can I say, I'm a visual learner.

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 09:20 AM (oZfic)

65 Allen, that's precisely how it works. My parents quit claiming me as a dependent in 1994 so I could get a student loan and return to school that Fall.

I refused grants. I wanted to have to pay it back.

Posted by: Scott J at February 09, 2012 09:20 AM (WAhu6)

66 Oh I know, I'm just saying he should have done it anyway. Like a good spike and dance in the endzone.

Oh, you didn't just want him to kill her "argument," you wanted him to dance on its grave.

Okay. I can support that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:20 AM (8y9MW)

67 Iowahawk's version of the Clint Eastwood ad:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2012/02/a-fistful-of-rebates.html

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:21 AM (5H6zj)

68 Look at me tinkle all over the carpet! Wheeee!!!!

http : // www . nobodyclicks. onthese/fickinlinksandIshoul djustgohome

Posted by: bi-curious tinkler at February 09, 2012 09:22 AM (ZCMDs)

69 I refused grants. I wanted to have to pay it back.

See, I would like to feel that way- but as a tax payer, I'm already "paying it back" in the form of Pell Grants others (who were considerably less thrifty than my own parents, or myself) are receiving. So I don't feel too terribly bad about my children getting some of that money back.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

70 Posted by: Gabriel M at February 09, 2012 09:10 AM (aycEY)

Looks like thinking isn't something you normally do before you post.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 09, 2012 09:22 AM (rX1N2)

71 is troll

Posted by: Troll Coulter at February 09, 2012 09:23 AM (tJa5V)

72 What can I say, I'm a visual learner annoying stalker.

Fixed that for you.

Posted by: The Fix-It Guy at February 09, 2012 09:23 AM (phlKA)

73 Here's something exciting. First female AF combat vet running for Gabby Gifford's seat.




The first woman to fly fighters in combat for the Air Force, and
first to command a fighter squadron in combat, is entering Arizona's
special election to fill U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' vacated
congressional seat.

Martha McSally confirmed her intentions Wednesday to join the
Republican primary. She made her decision after analyzing three factors:
was it feasible, was she electable, and did she feel called to run.
McSally said she's sure she is the right person for the job. "I
believe my leadership and my demonstrated moral courage and experience
is what this community and this nation needs right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 09:23 AM (UOM48)

74 Screw PepsiCo. Those bastards contrubute to many leftard causes. I don't use their products, and I don't give a fat rat's ass if they live or die.

Posted by: maddogg at February 09, 2012 09:24 AM (OlN4e)

75 I
believe my leadership and my demonstrated moral courage and experience
is what this community and this nation needs right now.


Good for her. Now does she also have the economic views that her community and nation need right now?

And are there pics (hey- someone was going to ask, may as well be me).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:25 AM (8y9MW)

76 What can I say, I'm a visual learner.


Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 09:20 AM (oZfic)



Visualize the Moron Horde mooning you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 09:25 AM (UOM48)

77 @ 40 The thing is, if you believed in the DOOM, you would support Ron Paul. Or if you can't bring yourself to do that because of newsletters, or whatever, you'd just sit out the GOP primary as an irrelevant and distracting sideshow. But you don't, which leads me to suspect you don't really believe it, kind of like the Left with Guantanamo.
...
BTW, you do realise that every earmark that Ron Paul adds to a spending bill just adds that much more to the deficit, and therefore to the debt, right?
...
It'd be a lot easier to believe Ron Paul really meant it about fiscal responsibility if he wasn't violating the principle himself.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 09, 2012 09:25 AM (+inic)

78 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 09:23 AM (UOM4


A small flower blooms.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:26 AM (DTX4S)

79 It'd be a lot easier to believe Ron Paul really meant it about fiscal
responsibility if he wasn't violating the principle himself.


Also if he weren't a complete loon about so many other things.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

80 the Clint Eastwood ad

I liked what Leno had to say... 'yeah, it's halftime in America, but the Chinese have the ball, and we're down by 15 trillion'.


Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 09, 2012 09:27 AM (phlKA)

81 >>The thing is, if you believed in the DOOM, you would support Ron Paul.

The radioactive fallout from Iran nuking Israel would mostly hit India, so who cares, right?

/

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 09, 2012 09:27 AM (ZKzrr)

82 From Byron York's twitter feed:

NYT: This year Foster Friess, '08 Romney donor, told Romney he would support Santorum. Romney, baffled, asked 'Why take Rick seriously?'

I do get the impression that Romney's campaign is completely clueless as to how to proceed now that their 'inevitability' bubble has burst.

I'm actually not happy about that b/c it suggests they will not be able to adapt in the general should he be the nominee.

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:27 AM (5H6zj)

83 New jobless claims down. Expect DWS to hit the tv circuit

Posted by: Avi at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (Gx3Fe)

84 @ 74 Screw PepsiCo. Those bastards contrubute to many leftard causes. I don't use their products, and I don't give a fat rat's ass if they live or die.
...
I agree. I haven't purposefully used Pepsi products since they signed on to support the radical homosexual agenda.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (+inic)

85 FAFSA is such a massive pile of shit. First of all, the stupid cocksuckers want you to attach your fucking tax form before the W2s deadline; you'd have to be as rich as Willard to have your flotilla of accountants comply with that horseshit. Second they want to know every fucking thing except what's in your pocket now, which they fucking A well know I'd lie about. It's honestly more arduous than complying with the IRS.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (tUZpS)

86 Steve Jobs' slave reservoir.

Posted by: Troll China at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (tJa5V)

87 And are there pics (hey- someone was going to ask, may as well be me).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:25 AM (8y9MW)

Binged her. Maybe a 7 or so, but she's a Warthog pilot. I like that. She makes things fall down go boom.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:30 AM (DTX4S)

88 LOL

"While the Port is spending approximately $200,000 for the cost to
replace the existing diesel engines (required by the Coast Guard, for
back-up power)*, the Port applied for and received an approximately
$500,000 U.S. Department of Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block
Grant to upgrade the vessel power system to cleaner technology.
Installation and repair work is being done by city workers, including
electricians, carpenters and others."

So let me get this straight. The Coast Guard requires them to replace the diesels for safety reasons, but they are spending an extra $500K our your money, to add another propulsion system for the tour boat.

*I guess the CG doesn't want the boat to become the EV Electric Minnow during an emissions free 3 hour tour.

Posted by: tmitsss at February 09, 2012 09:31 AM (V4Pya)

89 That cat should buy a boat. It looks like he's done well for himself.

Posted by: Ben at February 09, 2012 09:32 AM (wuv1c)

90 So let me get this straight. The Coast Guard requires them to replace the diesels for safety reasons, but they are spending an extra $500K our your money, to add another propulsion system for the tour boat.

*I guess the CG doesn't want the boat to become the EV Electric Minnow during an emissions free 3 hour tour.
Posted by: tmitsss at February 09, 2012 09:31 AM (V4Pya)

How much do sails cost?

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:33 AM (DTX4S)

91 New jobless claims down. Expect DWS to hit the tv circuit

Posted by: Avi at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (Gx3Fe)



The crab lice on her massive ass and toxic dump of a scalp are probably cheering "Yay; another road trip". If you could ignore the stench and get close enough, you could probably hear them.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 09, 2012 09:33 AM (tUZpS)

92 Maybe a 7 or so, but she's a Warthog pilot. I like that. She makes things fall down go boom.

I only found Military pictures, so I'll reserve judgement until I see some campaign pics (in which she should probably look better). Pending those, I agree: about a 7, with some bonus points for piloting a Warthog. More bonus points for having won a battle against Brass which would have required her to wear a burka.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:33 AM (8y9MW)

93 Why does the city of Los Angeles have a luxury yacht to begin with?

So Tony Villaraigosa can bang hot newscasters without the prying eyes of his wife upon him?

Posted by: Fritz at February 09, 2012 09:34 AM (/ZZCn)

94 89
That cat should buy a boat. It looks like he's done well for himself.

Posted by: Ben at February 09, 2012 09:32 AM (wuv1c)



Ben, a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into. Trust me on this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 09, 2012 09:34 AM (UOM48)

95 From Monty's manufacturing link: Unless the government does something to make us more competitive, it's just going to get worse," Rosenstein says.[\i]

We've now realized the problem, namely that government has become too powerful and too intrusive in the market. This is so simple, I can't understand why everyone doesn't understand it: by its very nature and construction, ourgovernment can only prohibit things, it cannot promote anything. Laws and regulations aren't passed to permit anything, since we were free to begin with. Under our form of government, every new law or regulation reduces our freedom.

The best thing that government can do to promote economic activity is to GTFO of the way and let capitalism do its thing. Why this isn't more widely recognized, promoted and acted upon is a mystery to me. (BTW, that's pretty much arhetorical question, since power is desired over doing the right thing by everyone in Washington and the ruling class).

There is no longer any difference between us and the pineapple...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at February 09, 2012 09:34 AM (d0Tfm)

96 I am warming up to my junior Senator. Via mckaycoppins on Twitter:

Mike Lee on CNN: "We've got four conservatives--" corrects himself: "We've got four *Republicans* running in this race..."

Of course he could have been thinking of Ron Paul when he corrected himself, but a girl can hope.

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:35 AM (5H6zj)

97 Add all the government employees and their spouses, as well as all the government contractors and their spouses, to the 49% and we are even more boned.

Posted by: jjmurphy at February 09, 2012 09:35 AM (xjEAl)

98 We are all Italics now. Gotta love that AceTML.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at February 09, 2012 09:35 AM (d0Tfm)

99 We are all Italics now. Gotta love that AceTML.

Backslash * BackwardsBoy = Forward Slash

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at February 09, 2012 09:37 AM (p7SSh)

100 On a typical one to ten scale , female warthog drivers are around 16 .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2012 09:43 AM (ybe4q)

101 Path to a brokered convention (via RCP): http://tinyurl.com/7ta8pn6 Has a map of who won which counties.

Posted by: Y-not at February 09, 2012 09:14 AM (5H6zj)

Well, thank you RCP. Where were you two months ago when I was arguing the same thing – that it was much harder to find a path where one candidate gets the 1400+ delegates than it was to envision a brokered convention.

Posted by: jwest at February 09, 2012 09:43 AM (FdndL)

102 Backslash * BackwardsBoy = Forward Slash

I remember when we didn't have to do that, before the Great Troll Formatting Attack of '012. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits and crotchal areas of whoeverwas responsible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at February 09, 2012 09:46 AM (d0Tfm)

103 "So get out of your chair this evening, my friends, and go stand in front
of the mirror to identify the problem. Then decide for yourself
whether you're going to keep consenting, because up until now, you have
and this crap will not stop until you decide you've had enough and
insist that the law that applies to you is also applied equally to these
institutions and their executives" "Fraudclosure -- You Have Been Sold Out." http://market -t icker . org / akcs - www ?post=201723#discuss
A lot of folks are saying essentially the same thing, this guy said it nicer. The comments in Zero Hedge are downright frightening.

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 09:47 AM (oZfic)

104 @ 74 Screw PepsiCo. Those bastards contrubute to
many leftard causes. I don't use their products, and I don't give a fat
rat's ass if they live or die.

...

I agree. I haven't purposefully used Pepsi products since they signed on to support the radical homosexual agenda.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 09, 2012 09:28 AM (+inic)


And they changed their logo in 2008 to look more like Barry's campaign symbol and ran a big ass kiss promo for him when he got elected. Just remember comrades, big corporations are all EVIL conservatives

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2012 09:47 AM (1Jaio)

105 Not getting the FAFSA hate. Am in the middle of filing 2X, once for Summer School 2012and again for Fall 2012. (Daughter got conditionally accepted, main condition being come to Summer School and let's see how you do.)

FAFSA Dependent/Independent status is not just whether or not parents claimed you as a dependent on their tax return. There's about a dozen questions with "No" answers leading to Dependent status.

The tax return info requested is about a half-dozen questions such as what was your Earned Income, AGI, Tax Amount, Exemptions Claimed, Return Type, etc. Not too taxing (bad pun intended) to provide.

For assets, it's mainly what's in your checking and savings accounts as Current Assets and what is inyournon-qualified investments (excludes 401ks and IRAs). Totals, not detailed entry by account.

Her intended school has a March 1 date for priority processing of financial aid requests. So we gotta file 2011 tax return in February and complete and submit the Fall 2012 FAFSA before the end of February.

I can see how if you own a business that amount of hurry up could be an elevated burden, but for most W-2 wage slaves I don't see much of an issue other than you lose the ability to procrastinate by filing for an extension.

My .02 and worth much less than that.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 09, 2012 09:50 AM (4q5tP)

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Mr. Ferrara,



I don’t know if you read these emails or not, but I wanted
to thank you for your Coulter Care article in The American Spectator. Gaining my political understanding during Reagan’s
successful presidential run it is his stated conservative views that I most
closely relate. Each election I have
voted Republican often holding my nose while thinking I was accepting the best
choice available. This presidential
election cycle has proven me to be a fool.



During the United States’ greatest leadership crises within
my lifetime the Republican party cannot produce one Reagan conservative leader
to correct the situation. Instead we
are offered Obama big government types in white skin. Why can’t the Republican party produce better
leaders? And with this question I
realize that this is who the Republican party is now, and has been the 20th
century. Looking back I realize that
the Republican party HATED Reagan.



So the Tea Party and the conservative talking heads would
try to right the ship. Unfortunately
the people proved too weak to fight the media, the left, and the Republican
party. Ann Coulters’ capitulation to
Romney and RomneyCare is the proof of our utter failure and defeat. I am alone, or at least part of a minority
that will never see its beliefs instilled in the United States.



There is so much more to say, but I am trying to be
brief. In the end I have
surrendered. I will not vote this
election for a president. I am no
longer a Republican, but an independent that truly believes the time to prevent
America from being a socialist/Marxist/communist/fascist state has passed. Now I must learn to live in the new
system. I must acknowledge that, unlike
I was taught in school, this is not the home of the free. America is the home of the velvet tyranny.

Posted by: Dave at February 09, 2012 09:51 AM (hm8tW)

107 *I guess the CG doesn't want the boat to become the EV Electric Minnow during an emissions free 3 hour tour. Posted by: tmitsss at February 09, 2012 09:31 AM (V4Pya)
How much do sailsoars cost? [And a tom-tom drum]


Posted by: eman at February 09, 2012 09:33 AM (DTX4S)


FIFM

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 09, 2012 09:53 AM (4q5tP)

108 Dave owes me a new scroll wheel.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 09, 2012 09:54 AM (9pGza)

109 Providence, RI is going down this year:



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" At a news
conference last week, Providence mayor Angel Taveras told those in attendance that the city, Rhode
Island's largest, faced bankruptcy this
year if retiree benefits aren't cut and
nonprofits like Brown University do not contribute more to city coffers, the Associated Press reports."

"Mayor Says
Providence Could Face Bankruptcy Without Retiree Benefit Cuts, Nonprofit Payments."
Associated Press 2/02/12.



Posted by: Dr. P at February 09, 2012 10:07 AM (FmV27)

110 The comments in Zero Hedge are downright frightening.

Another flash from the newsroom. A cat-pee aroma'd, curiously dim flash.

Posted by: DarkLord©, Rogue Commenter for a Rogue Planet at February 09, 2012 10:08 AM (GBXon)

111 Dammit, you copypasta knuckleheads, knock it off!

Posted by: DarkLord©, Rogue Commenter for a Rogue Planet at February 09, 2012 10:09 AM (GBXon)

112 Dang, sorry guys. I can't delete it.

Posted by: Dave at February 09, 2012 10:15 AM (hm8tW)

113 Dave and Dr. P -- is it okay if I delete those long posts? I'm not mad and you're not out of bounds, but those posts are just formatting nightmares.

Posted by: Monty at February 09, 2012 10:20 AM (/0a60)

114 "In other words, got foreclosed on for being unable to make payments? YOU GET $2,000! And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you buy an election using taxpayer money." (from zero hedge: "Robosigning Is Now History - US Announces $26 Billion Foreclosure Settlement"

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 10:20 AM (oZfic)

115 Note to cut and pasters: Cut and paste first into an ASCII word processing program like Notepad, which will strip out the formatting which no longer works here. Then cut and paste into the AoS text box.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 09, 2012 10:22 AM (phlKA)

116 I remember when we didn't have to do that, before
the Great Troll Formatting Attack of '012. May the fleas of a thousand
camels infest the armpits and crotchal areas of whoeverwas responsible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at February 09, 2012 09:46 AM (d0Tfm)

Any clue about when Pixy will finish the new blog? Before SMOD arrives, perhaps?

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at February 09, 2012 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

Posted by: Matt Damon at February 09, 2012 10:35 AM (AQD6a)

118 MATT DAMON!

Posted by: Matt Damon at February 09, 2012 10:35 AM (AQD6a)

119 Spit it out, Matt.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at February 09, 2012 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

120 Spit it out, Matt.
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at February 09, 2012 10:36 AM (RD7QR)
--------------------------------------------------------
No..... I want him to swallow.

Posted by: Ben Affleck at February 09, 2012 10:38 AM (jucos)

121 All those Aesop fables we learned back in our youth, well they've been turned on their heads upside down and their pocket change swiped.

The new fable of the ant and the grasshopper has the ant grinding away, working his fingers to the bone, while the grasshopper and all of his illegitimate little grasshoppers and or illegal alien grasshopper grifters move into chez ant, eating his food, trashing the place, and screaming MORE at the top of their lungs.

Good times.

Posted by: Boots at February 09, 2012 10:42 AM (neKzn)

122 The thing is, if you believed in the DOOM, you would
support Ron Paul. Or if you can't bring yourself to do that because of
newsletters, or whatever, you'd just sit out the GOP primary as an
irrelevant and distracting sideshow.

But you don't, which leads me to suspect you don't really believe it, kind of like the Left with Guantanamo.

Posted by: Gabriel M at February 09, 2012 09:10 AM (aycEY)

Ron Paul is a delusional gas-bag who farms retards for a living.Also if your sock-puppeting a coblogger (different hash than Gabe's regular) someone will find the banhammer under that mess of empty pancake boxes for you.

Posted by: DaveA at February 09, 2012 10:43 AM (eYPD/)

123 Any idea what/who/where “political-intelligence practitioners” are ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 09, 2012 11:18 AM (e8kgV)

124 Left-leaning people of faith, especially Catholics, have had the scales rudely ripped from their eyes by the Obama administration. I wish I were more hopeful that this would lead to a re-examination of their liberal leanings, but I doubt it

No, of course it won't. And it's worse than you think. Starting at the top of the hierarchy, the Roman Catholic Church is stuffed to the gills with idiot bishops, cardinals, etc., who don't know jack shit about economics and because of this, are Marxist in everything but name. They just love labor unions and opening our gates wide for illegal immigrants to get connected in with the welfare state, which the Catholic Church also heartily approves of.

Oh, but they don't like abortions. So this makes them conservative.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 09, 2012 11:19 AM (+U6kO)

125 The daily caller has this: "Obama's church-state spin: free condoms vs Catholic dogma" http:// dailycaller .com/2012/02/08/obamas - church-state-spin-free-condoms-vs-catholic-dogma/

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 11:38 AM (oZfic)

126 Illinois, Grand Imperial Pooh-bah of the LOTB, continues to accrue awards and benefits commensurate with its position...

Caterpiller Inc. Rescinds Planned Illinois Plant, Cites Business Climate

http:// www.manufacturing.net/news/ 2012/02/ cat-rescinds-planned-ill-plant- cites-business-climate

"Please understand that even if your community had the right logistics for
this project, Caterpillar's previously documented concerns about the business
climate and overall fiscal health of the state of Illinois still would have made
it unpractical for us to select your community for this project," the email, a
copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, says.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 09, 2012 11:42 AM (Wqfrr)

127 Awesome DOOM kitteh today. Definitely a 1%er.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 09, 2012 11:47 AM (/izg2)

128 Re: 126

I put the Caterpiller story link in my nickname here.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at February 09, 2012 11:56 AM (Wqfrr)

129 My name is Elmer Los Angeles. I own a mansion and a yacht.

Posted by: epobirs at February 09, 2012 12:18 PM (kcfmt)

130
Caterpiller Inc. Rescinds Planned Illinois Plant, Cites Business Climate








I hate those guys.

Posted by: Zombie Rachel Corrie at February 09, 2012 12:22 PM (XCHGh)

131 Re Ferrara on coulter: it's "inevitable" that indl mandate in a democracy leads to universal cvg for all ills real and imagined, but at the same time inevitable that good-govt cost sensitivity leads to rationing.

Coulter is wrong to proffer legal def of indl mandate, but Ferrara is stuck in his own rut: why should it be inevitable that ALL CVG is offered to a SELECT POPULATION? The electorate wise enough to accept cost-sensitivity arguments for rationing is wise enough to understand -- if explained -- the choice between blanket cvg that will be rationed and rational cvg that will be EVERYONE'S medical security blanket.

Romney -- lets pray! -- will be the nominee. "Country club repub" or not, we can't have another 4 yrs…let's cut the guy a little slack for selling out to true-blue mass legislature?

Posted by: Jimi Ray at February 09, 2012 12:23 PM (pYeq6)

132 #40

Nonsense on skates.

Trading one disaster for another is hardly an upgrade. A candidate can have some weak areas but being utterly toxic in certain major policy areas is a guarantee of failure, allowing the incumbent to remain comfortably ensconced. This is why we have cabinet positions. For specialists to work their trade.

Posted by: epobirs at February 09, 2012 12:33 PM (kcfmt)

133 "Dick Bove Goes Ballistic Over The 'Mortgage Deal From Hell'"http://tinyurl.com/7lna5dt

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 12:57 PM (oZfic)

134 Caterpiller Inc. Rescinds Planned Illinois Plant, Cites Business ClimateI hate those guys.

Posted by: Zombie Rachel Corrie at February 09, 2012 12:22 PM (XCHGh)


This just in: Caterpillar Announces Strategic Alliance with IHOP.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 09, 2012 01:18 PM (8ru0G)

135 Gee I hope annie is getting something for her trying to ruin her own career.

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 02:18 PM (oZfic)

136 Monty, I wasn't sure you heard about the Chris Christie dinner with Stevie Cohen at quality meats being reported by my favorite financial reporter, Charlie Gasparino. (from dealbreaker: http://tinyurl.com/728byfx)

Posted by: tinsley at February 09, 2012 02:21 PM (oZfic)

137 Monty,

Anarcho-capitalists do not advocate for no oversight. They advocate for no organization to be able to claim a territorial monopoly and employ coercive taxation and regulation/oversight. They advocate for private firms, similar to Underwriters Laboratories, to provide oversight if demanded by consumers.

Posted by: Repairman Jack at February 09, 2012 02:39 PM (AOhaJ)

138 Monty,
It may be too late, but please delete my copy/paste formatting nightmare of a post.

Posted by: Dave at February 09, 2012 03:53 PM (hm8tW)

139 Peter Orszag your check is in the mail.

Skynet/WOPR 2012

Posted by: Skynet/WOPR 2012 at February 09, 2012 09:50 PM (BYU6W)

140 And the chocolate ration is going up too!!!!!


Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2012 09:08 AM (1Jaio)…………………………………………………………………………Ah, 1984. Orwell was just a little early. I never thought our government would actually resemble Big Brother.

Posted by: Worf the Wonder Klingon at February 10, 2012 07:36 AM (wL5Cc)






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Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat