George Lucas: Liberal Hollywood Wouldn't Finance My Movie Because It Has An All Black Cast
I'm interested in this movie. But I feel I'm going to be tricked.
I think George Lucas Doesn't Know What The Hell He's Doing (TM). Harry Plinkett told me so, and yes, I Believe Harry Plinkett (TM). I'm wondering about Lucas' motivations here. He is widely known as a talentless hack who Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM). Is the all-black movie an attempt to make himself critic-proof? Now if this is a good movie, I want to see it. Based on how Lucas is talking about it --“It was designed to be during the war," Lucas said. "It’s very patriotic, very jingoistic, very old-fashioned, corny, just exactly like 'Flying Leathernecks' only this one was held up for release from 1942 when it was shot, and I’ve been trying to get it released ever since.”-- I'm inclined to see it. Further, I like dogfights, and was very disappointed by that awful WWI dogfight movie (whatever it was called) released like eight years ago, so I still need my period dogfight movie fix. But here's the problem: George Lucas Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM). This is not a political thing, though I hate his politics. I'd toss him $10 for a good movie -- I'm pretty sure he's got more than $10 in the bank so my ticket wouldn't reward him that much. It's the fact that he Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM). It's not the ten dollars wasted, though there is that. It's the three hours of time wasted if the film turns out to be horrific, which is quite likely, because George Lucas Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM). So did Hollywood people say "We don't know how to market a film with an all-black cast" just to be nice, to avoid saying "We've heard that George Lucas Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM)"? I mean-- they made that egregious Shaft update, didn't they? They knew how to market that. (Hint: Market it as an action movie, especially to blacks, but also to people who are not black.) And if it's true -- my goodness, does this mean liberal Hollywood is racist? So... yeah I'll see this and review it. I will discover the truth, whether Hollywood is racist or if George Lucas just Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM). As far as I'm concerned that's win-win -- I can't lose. Someone is going to come out of this badly. More, including video of Lucas on Jon Stewart, at NewsBusters. Trailer:
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Posted by: The Jackhole at January 11, 2012 06:06 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Ted Danson at January 11, 2012 06:06 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:07 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Percival at January 11, 2012 06:07 PM (njhPY)
Posted by: Springtime for tyrants at January 11, 2012 06:07 PM (sJKFk)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at January 11, 2012 06:09 PM (2VCZA)
"They changed the war by changing history." If you know the true history of the Red Tails, you know they did not change the war or any other such nonsense. This movie is just going to be more myth-building with a miniscule smattering of facts. And virtually everyone who sees it, is going to believe every last bit of it.
Posted by: SBern at January 11, 2012 06:10 PM (JF/H+)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (7W3wI)
And I already saw this once, when it was a corny HBO movie called "The Tuskegee Airmen".
Posted by: packsoldier at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (MIT63)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (tjfsr)
I was never a Star Wars fanboy, so the only movie I've watched from Lucas that I liked was American Graffiti, and Francis Ford Coppola was his partner in that
Trivia bit: Paul LeMat's Deuce Coupe had the license plate THX-1138, the same as Lucas' first movie
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: billygoat at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (+zWnc)
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Nightmare for ZeroHedge & Luap Nor at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (sJKFk)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (X/+QT)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: njlibertarian at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (R79sT)
Yes. And chock-full of pedofiles.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM (HtUdo)
Posted by: billygoat at January 11, 2012 06:14 PM (+zWnc)
Why do you hate us, Ace?
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2012 06:14 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2012 06:14 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 06:14 PM (KI/Ch)
Has anyone else noticed the comments section @ ZeroHedge Has turned into the comments section of Stormfront ?
Posted by: Nightmare for ZeroHedge Luap Nor at January 11, 2012 06:13 PM
They've been Raving Ronulans for the past year now. Where have you been?
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (Y+DPZ)
Yup. but an action movie version, which is fine by me.
In theory. Caveat: George Lucas Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM).
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (0q2P7)
Also, if Hollywood can force some White Guilt (TM) on the world, they would love to.
So for Hollywood to pass, my guess this is.. tres terrible.
Posted by: shibumi at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (z63Tr)
So did Hollywood people say "We don't know how to market a film with an
all-black cast" just to be nice, to avoid saying "We've heard that
George Lucas Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM)"?
So Hollyweird didn't know how to market any of these films? How did Hollyweird market How Stella Got Her Groove Back, or Coming to America, or the Barbershop movies...so on and so forth.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (m/zBH)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (lVGED)
Is he trying to say that even though the movie has an all black cast, they don't act black enough, so black people won't be interested in it and white people are all racists, so the won't go see it either?
Posted by: TC at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (ygAxO)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (r2PLg)
So, George Lucas Who Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM)is broke and can't finance his own movie?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Split Tails at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (Qjh0I)
Has anyone else noticed the comments section @ ZeroHedge Has turned into the comments section of Stormfront ?
I tend not to read the comments over there. I just glance at the stories and go from there. The comments seem to be from people who are... what is the word? Kind of "insane."
Posted by: shibumi at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Liberal Hollywood at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (FcR7P)
The Army's treatment of blacks during WWII was despicable. There is no way to justify it.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2012 06:14 PM
We can think of worse
Posted by: Asian Americans in WW II at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:17 PM (QMtmy)
Posted by: Asian Americans in WW II at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM (Y+DPZ)Ummmmmm, hello.
Posted by: Indian Americans at January 11, 2012 06:17 PM (+zWnc)
Agreed, but that treatment also spared them from Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, et al. For what that is worth. There was the Port Chicago explosion, too.
Posted by: navybrat at January 11, 2012 06:17 PM (ELpBj)
Posted by: wooga at January 11, 2012 06:18 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Grandsons/daughters of the Transgender Gay Gypsy Communists Concern Group at January 11, 2012 06:18 PM (JVEmw)
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The Army's treatment of blacks during WWII was despicable. There is no way to justify it.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2012 06:14 PMWe can think of worse
As Muslims. no one has gone through the suffering we have, infidel pigs, who deserve to die!
Posted by: CAIR at January 11, 2012 06:18 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 11, 2012 06:19 PM (m/zBH)
Posted by: Insane Clown Webmaster at January 11, 2012 06:19 PM (O6q63)
The problem isn't that he doesn't know what he's doing. It's that he now refuses to listen to those that do.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:19 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mace L. Windu at January 11, 2012 06:20 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: Hollywood at January 11, 2012 06:20 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:21 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: The Lone Lemon at January 11, 2012 06:21 PM (xXhWA)
And then you drop him into the wacky world of black people when something happens at work or something. So, he's like a fish-out-of-water, right? And he's all scared and like, Hey, don't rob and kill me, here's my wallet. And it bewilders and annoys the black people because they're disadvantaged business owners and/or trying to save the community center and they're like, Hey, that's racist - just because we're black we rob people? Dayumm!
And then he learns all kinds of slangy, street wisdom from the black people and it makes him more attractive to his wife and his kids think he's cool and he makes out with his wife in front of everyone and the blacks are like, Yeeeeah! Get dat! That's my boyeee!
I'd pay to see a movie like that.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2012 06:21 PM (l9zgN)
Actually Jackson requested that it be purple.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:21 PM (QMtmy)
I sense. I sense an action movie with a lot of sitting and talking and action scenes where you never get the sense that anyone is in danger. I have foreseen it.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (0q2P7)
All of your studios are belong to us.
Posted by: Equal Rights Amendment at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (x7g7t)
Posted by: The Q at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: WWI Veterans at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Yoda at January 11, 2012 06:22 PM (tjfsr)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:23 PM (QMtmy)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 06:23 PM (+lsX1)
"Hollywood won't finance my movie"
So, George Lucas Who Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM)is broke and can't finance his own movie?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM
Very few of them self-finance. Most submit the script to the studio's feature estimation department who submit a figure to the banks that put together the syndication line of credit
It appears that he's already made the movie, but he's bitching that the studio wouldn't pony up for the considerable marketing expenses
Posted by: Asian Americans in WW II at January 11, 2012 06:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Errol at January 11, 2012 06:23 PM (vewos)
Posted by: The Q at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (LnQhT)
So when he says "all black cast," does he mean "Shia LeBouf in blackface?"
He'll change the race of everybody to black post-production.
Amazing what one can do with a green screen and some computer power.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: 1sttofight at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (A7kPj)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks' Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (JsvKz)
Shut up and get me my Slurpeetm.
Posted by: Indigenous Americans at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Jean at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (UIE9v)
Actually, the action sequences in Pearl were quite too "video game," and the trailer for "Red Tails" makes it look like that film will also suffer from digital effect grandiosity.
Good personal news: my employ has lifted the Ironport lockout of AoS HQ. Figured out it's a smart military blog, and not a gambling site.
Cordially...
Posted by: Rick at January 11, 2012 06:24 PM (HbWhE)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 11, 2012 06:25 PM (jucos)
George Lucas made the claim that this is an expensive movie, and the studios think that the foreign receipts will be close to zero, so they don't think it will make money. They don't know how to market this thing to make money. GL said that most "black" movies are low-budget and can easily make back their budget in the USA only, but in this case it's a high-budget movie. So it might suck, but my BS detector isn't going off wildly on these particular claims.
Posted by: steveha at January 11, 2012 06:25 PM (TMG3G)
By the way: In his stupid star wars movies, he could not even choose a side-- he kept going out of his way to say that the Republic was no better than the Separtists.
And that's fantasy. He could make the bad guys as evil as he wanted.
But now he's doing a "jingoistic" movie.
Why?
Because George Bush isn't president, that's why. It's safe to be jingoistic again.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:26 PM (nj1bB)
Look even the dirt is clean!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:26 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: General Scoundrel at January 11, 2012 06:26 PM (Xw+Kg)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (QMtmy)
Do you have a 'script'? Give us a call.
Posted by: Vivid Productions at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (84pE9)
Why not throw up the preview? I think there are 2 of them here's one.
Looks OK, kind of a tired story, but the effects will be good. Lots of 2 dimensional white people.
Posted by: Max Power is (Blech) taking a second look at Romney at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (q177U)
And buck teeth and glasses?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Max Power is (Blech) taking a second look at Romney at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (q177U)
no because the action sequences in the star wars movies sucked too.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:27 PM (nj1bB)
No shit, right? Ididn't know who to root against so I rooted against the movie.
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:28 PM (lVGED)
We can think of worse
Posted by: Asian Americans in WW II at January 11, 2012 06:16 PM
Ummmmmm, hello.
Posted by: Indian Americans at January 11, 2012 06:17 PM
Actually the American Indians served alongside whites in combat, as did Hispanics.
Pappy Boyington was a Sioux, and I don't think he bitched much about the treatment of Indians
In the 19th century, that was another story
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
I wonder how many Paul supporters really do smoke weed and how many support him for his weed position just because they believe it's beyond the scope of Government?
50-50 ?
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2012 06:28 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Errol at January 11, 2012 06:29 PM (vewos)
Posted by: EC at January 11, 2012 06:29 PM (R15UB)
Being a little niggardly with your praise ace.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 11, 2012 06:25 PM (jucos)
Ace's been that way for a coon's age...
Posted by: Slack-Jawed Yokel at January 11, 2012 06:30 PM (+zWnc)
Probably not. The 332nd served in the ETO, not the Pacific. Apparently, they were quite a formidable bomber escort.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:30 PM (K4B09)
Posted by: joeindc44 - fully stoked tebow crazed rioter at January 11, 2012 06:30 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:30 PM (QMtmy)
Posted by: weew at January 11, 2012 06:30 PM (OsyHS)
.....Sadder still was how Hollywood balked given the message Lucas was trying to convey.“I wanted to make it inspirational for teenaged boys. I wanted to show
that they have heroes, they’re real American heroes, they’re patriots
that helped to make the country what it is today. And it’s not glory
where you have a lot of white officers running these guys into cannon
fodder. It’s like a real, they were real heroes.”
And Hollywood said, "No."
Just remember that the next time some movie star or film director calls Republicans or members of the Tea Party racist.
Wasn't Woody Wilson the Uber Proglodite Hero the one who started segregation in the military.
Posted by: Proglodite at January 11, 2012 06:31 PM (sJKFk)
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:31 PM (84pE9)
$10 for a good movie -- I'm pretty sure he's got more than $10 in the
bank so my ticket wouldn't reward him that much.
That 10 bucks is going straight to Obama 2012 and the DNC
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:31 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Ken Wheaton at January 11, 2012 06:31 PM (YxsNd)
His name is George Lucas, did you bother to even read the article?
Posted by: Max Power is (Blech) taking a second look at Romney at January 11, 2012 06:32 PM (q177U)
The foreigners are going to have that Golden Globe thing...
They'e going to tell you-
Midnight in Paris is wonderbar or something.
It sucks!
You know how you roll your eyes when Jon Huntman breaks out the Fu Man Chu talk-well...
Woody Allen breaks out the French screw the subtitles for you peasants..
So , shorter= go see that movie if you love Huntsman Debate Chinese....
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:32 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:28 PM (Y+DPZ)
They were also used as code breakers -- the Army needed them....after that?...back to the reservation !
Posted by: billygoat at January 11, 2012 06:32 PM (+zWnc)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM (5H6zj)
And not one mo'fricken' snake? I mean, does he think these things through?
Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM (Jdtsu)
Playing SWTOR;
The Republic was fighting Separatists. I'm a smuggler, I get a mission for pay. Recover stolen medicine the Republic needs for dying soldiers.
Hitch
It was stolen by someone who was using it for dying civilians. Then stolen a second time from them.
If you get the medicine back and give it to the soldiers you are awarded dark side points.
That one pushed my buttons. I had to file a complaint about content.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: The Q at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (LnQhT)
where you have a lot of white officers running these guys into cannon
fodder. It’s like a real, they were real heroes.”
Right there tells you what Lucas' storyline is
White officers = evil
Black flyers = holy
Special effects and dogfights = puts asses in the seats
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (Y+DPZ)
I know, but I woulda thought that after all the money that George Lucas Who Doesn't Know What He's Doing (TM)made,he could easily finance it himself.
I thought only the The Big Guy had more money than GLWDKWHD (TM).
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (OO96t)
Starring Agent Jack Smith as the brave Federal regulator on a one man quest to end 1960's racism in America, despite horrific violence and intimidation from legions of racist Libertarians.
Posted by: Entropy at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM (Ci0JG)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (tjfsr)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (r2PLg)
They did lose planes being escorted...~25. Still an enviable performance.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (K4B09)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:34 PM
Hey, that Lucas is stealing my ideas!
Posted by: James Fuckin' Cameron at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Entropy at January 11, 2012 06:36 PM (Ci0JG)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:36 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:31 PM (84pE9)
I have a prized collection of Laurel and Hardy movies that are far funnier and much more entertaining than anything Hollywood has produced in quite some time.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 06:37 PM (+ePlO)
exactly like 'Flying Leathernecks' only this one was held up for release from 1942 when it was shot, ...
Doesn't Know What He Is Doing.
If there had been a contemporary Tuskeegee movie, it would have been filmed in 1944 or 1945 since all the big action scenes would have been based on events from '44 or '45.
Lucas doesn't even know the history of his own movie - Doesn't Know What He Is Doing.
BTW, based on the Tuskeegee episode of History Channel's Dogfight there are ASSKICKING true action scenes possible. I have no idea what crap Lucas might put up
If you saw the dogfight episode - I want to see the low altitude fight over the lake. One of the Tuskegee guys pulled off something like a Death Blossom move (Last starfighter)
Posted by: Comrade T at January 11, 2012 06:37 PM (CLIf7)
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (lVGED)
where you have a lot of white officers running these guys into cannon
fodder. It’s like a real, they were real heroes.”
Did he really say that? Has he seen Glory? The company in Glory was all pissed off because they never got to fight. They fought for the right to fight. And there officer was gunned down with the unit once they got a combat role.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: All Things Considered at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (QMtmy)
Unsure of the meaning, if any.
Posted by: Aunt Ralph In NYC at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (SF+WZ)
I deleted it, because usually someone complains and says "take down my proprietary picture" and I felt like pre-empting that.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (r2PLg)
-I think girls are pretty but that doesn't mean I am a thespian!
-I am going to see my favorite band tonight so I am just full of excrement!
-Im not a slut, but that doesn't mean I'm celebrate!
-My farrier said he only had horse... who wants a coat made out of horse?
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (RfvTE)
Really? Because if the trailer is any indication, the aerial combat sequences look like shit to me.
The sort of physically impossible crap you see in sci-fi/fantasy is ok, but this is supposed to be believable.
Unfortunately the trailer footage just looks like his sci-fi fantasy crap with a WWII skin.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (rX1N2)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (+lsX1)
The production of Howard Hugh's Hell's Angels trumps anything that came after it.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM (K4B09)
Haven't been able to afford a movie in years, but the last really good one I saw was the final Matrix movie.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:40 PM (d0Tfm)
The same stuff he put into Star Wars. He admitted that he based the dogfights on WWII style dogfights.
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:40 PM (84pE9)
I deleted it, because usually someone complains and says "take down my proprietary picture" and I felt like pre-empting that.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:39 PM
I thought maybe you were just being touchy about the pointy elbows comments
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:41 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:41 PM (r2PLg)
According to Carnifex, she's from a NSFW site called WhoreLore.
The things I learn on this blog.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:41 PM (bjRNS)
100% of TV in the last 30 years has been crap.
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2012 06:42 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (r2PLg)
Here's a clue: I was 16 and still had to sneek in.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 11, 2012 06:42 PM (HyZHp)
This movie is right in my wheelhouse and I'm not likely to pay to see it in the theater because of the Oh So Perfect bon mots and Preachifying.
Part of what made "Glory" a great movie was that Morgan Freeman, among others, hadn't leveled up into Full Wise Man status.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 06:42 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 06:42 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:35 PM (r2PLg)
Excalibur original release.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 06:43 PM (h6mPj)
Some people just can't stand any criticism of pointy elbows.
Or ears.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:43 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:43 PM (r2PLg)
IOW, Star Wars.
According to Carnifex, she's from a NSFW site called WhoreLore.
@ work, will not Yahoo.
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:43 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:44 PM (K4B09)
Holy carp. You haven't seen that movie in a while, have you? Dude had the full-on superguru thing going on, from the instant he showed up in a halo to wake up Broderick from the dead at Antietam.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:44 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:40 PM
Was that the one with Groucho Matrix?
Posted by: Meggie Mac on Film at January 11, 2012 06:44 PM (Y+DPZ)
Other than that, the movie looks boring and there seemed to be a lot of overacting. Plus I don't like war/spy/military movies anyway, so I'll pass.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 06:44 PM (21lBC)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:44 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (T2/zQ)
You'd think they would teach a course about this in The Young Pioneers Public Education System.
After all what are tax dollars for?
Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (HBqDo)
Pearl Harbor was Dec 7th, 1941. Were we doing much in 1942 other than re-grouping and interring Japanese?
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (DNTer)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 11, 2012 06:15 PM (m/zBH)
FIFY
Posted by: tamika looking for baby-daddy at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (SPVfc)
Posted by: CUS at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 11, 2012 06:45 PM (QMtmy)
Terrence Howard followed this guy for Iron Man...
Guy told us all terrence Howard did was whine about his women troubles...
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:46 PM (r2PLg)
Oh yeah, I Love Lucy Gunsmoke were so much better than Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy. My Three Sons was the goddamned height of entertainment.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 06:46 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2012 06:47 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 11, 2012 06:47 PM (K4B09)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:47 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:38 PM (0q2P7)
Glory is one of the best Civil War movies to come out. I did enjoy it.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (qHiQk)
That reminds me of the bile in my throat as I sat through my daughters college graduation address as I, the white devil incarnate, had to listen to how some government peeps -- decades before and without my knowledge or consent -- had conducted some research on blacks. I took the overly prolonged denouncement, that I could not respond to in a socially acceptable manner, while wondering why in the hell I had spent tens of thousands of dollars on my daughters education only to be lectured to by someone whose ancestors were sold into slavery by their own people, with anything other then humor. Every piece of communication that college has sent to her at my address since that day -- every single one -- has in some way requested money in some way. They have all been routinely filed in the circular file.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (phlKA)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (rX1N2)
Posted by: The Q at January 11, 2012 06:49 PM (LnQhT)
But no one would be stupid enough to put garbage like that on film.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2012 06:49 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 11, 2012 06:49 PM (hXJOG)
Oh it's probably Clockwork Orange. It's one of the few X rated films (Now NC-17) to get general release of any age.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:49 PM (0q2P7)
Betcha guys have had those building up for months now, eh?
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2012 06:50 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:50 PM (lVGED)
Based on 'Red Tails' trailer, Every.Damn.Pilot. is going to get quippy with it.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 06:50 PM (h6mPj)
Guadalcanal and Midway were both in '42, so the Japanese only really ran wild about six months.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:51 PM (bjRNS)
Everest on IMAX.
I don't know what happened but I can't do fiction anymore. I used to be an avid reader and moviegoer but about ten years ago or so, I just gave it up.
I think part of it was some experiences I've had in my travels which confirmed the old cliche that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.
So anywho, carry on. Just my centavos.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 06:51 PM (+ePlO)
We have bought a p-51, but now need to raise money to rehab and exhibit the plane properly.
www.nationalww2museum.org
Posted by: Jeff at January 11, 2012 06:51 PM (qkzQ/)
Anywho, the looks like a CW black comedy combined with Star Wars aircraft.
I look forward to dialog like-
"Luke, I am your baby-daddy!"
Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (XBdI0)
http://i40.tinypic.com/2u9spvr.jpg
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (G99e4)
Yeah, the first one was so good, I got suckered into the other two. The last one was kinda anticlimactic, but the special effects were great on the big screen. That series worked on many levels for me, even spiritially in a way (dying and thenbeing reborn, Neo having come before six times [don't go there...] and maybe coming back, living in a false world with the real world waiting for you), it was hard to resist the rest.
Come to think of it, that was just about the last original movie to come out of Hollyweird.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2012 06:53 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 06:53 PM (RfvTE)
They did lose bombers, and shot down an average number of Luftwaffe fighters. The movie looks like another combo of lies and bullshit
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 06:53 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 06:53 PM (+ePlO)
I don't recall how long they had, but I know what the Japanese soldiers
did in Australia, Philippines, and China was unspeakably awful.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 06:53 PM (RfvTE)
well, they never showed up in Australia.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 06:54 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2012 06:54 PM (VMcEw)
Talk about Political Correctness.
I mean You.
This stuff happened, Dummy. I know you don't want to hear about it, but your whining about having to HEAR about what other people actually went through is ridiculous.
Talk about entitlement.
Yes, the Tuskegee Experiment was real.
a lot of people not only want a disneyfied view of history, but they are shameless about it, and kind of arrogant about it, to boot. They're actually angry if someone mentions that maybe some white people at one time did something untoward to someone black.
Grow up. Life's not Disney.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:54 PM (nj1bB)
I look forward to dialog like-
"Luke, I am your baby-daddy!"
Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM
Tyler Perry's "Meet the Luftwaffe"
Posted by: kbdabear at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (Y+DPZ)
Hollywood took a hard left turn and hit the rocket booster? Then after about 3 films exhausted the whole of liberal ideology that made any sort of sense and just started remaking those three films over and over. Is that what happened?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle at January 11, 2012 06:48 PM (84pE9)
Yeah, I was stuck in China, but I did have a V8.
Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (hXJOG)
Yeah. The narrative for them is really the same as the narrative for Glory -- black unit overcomes white resistance to actually fight. They didn't have to be great. Just average (which means better than half of the "white" units).
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (bjRNS)
You were oppressed right there hearing about it, huh?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:55 PM (nj1bB)
I don't know what happened but I can't do fiction anymore. I used to be an avid reader and moviegoer but about ten years ago or so, I just gave it up.
****
Ya, I can see that.
******
Shoot maybe the question should be-
worst movie you ever saw?
I actually walked out of -
The Spirit
something about Samuel L. Jackson and Scarlett Johansson dressed up in Nazi porn regalia singing about Hitler while pretending to be a dentist and his nursing assistant....
gawd.
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:56 PM (r2PLg)
I thought that was Clint's Gran Torino?
Posted by: Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle at January 11, 2012 06:56 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:57 PM (r2PLg)
This is the visual standard for WWII era fighter work
It's not that high.
and it .. is ... awesome.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 06:57 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 11, 2012 06:52 PM (XBdI0)
I like how the planes wings move at random at wingtip distances. That's a good way to collide.The 'video game' CGI from Dogfight is just as good, and they have actual pilots giving commentary. Buy the DVD for the same money as a movie.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 06:57 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 06:57 PM (21lBC)
Yeah, that was a substantial part of it. The other part was realizing that the beauty of humanity and nature was all around me and I didn't anyone to script it and photograph it for me.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 06:58 PM (+ePlO)
What was Frank Miller thinking?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (nj1bB)
Back when I was working as a projectionist, Nothing But Trouble. That movie was so bad that I had to move it from the biggest screen to the smallest on Saturday morning.
I'm glad my instincts were right about The Spirit. That movie should've been right in my wheelhouse, but something about the previews made me know better.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: 2LT Jar Jar Binks at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (7JrOh)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: Sgt. York at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (nN28y)
Yes, the Tuskegee Experiment was real.
And I hope you spend hours every day hanging your head in shame. Because you're obviously of age that should feel responsible in some fashion. Or your children, and then their children, and then their children's children should have that yolk hung around their neck.
It should never end, because people should never be able to say, "Don't blame that shit on me."
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 07:00 PM (phlKA)
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:00 PM (RfvTE)
*****
BackwardsBoy...
When you get a chance, from your write up of The Matrix series -it sounds like you might like-
Inception.
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:00 PM (r2PLg)
No liberal like Lucas knows what they are doing, but we make the best capitalists, filmmakers, authors, engineers, inventors, etc.
Then confronted with this obvious contradiction, a conservative launches into implausible denial - "But Warren Buffett is not a capitalist! He is really a socialist!".
Posted by: Clarence at January 11, 2012 07:01 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:01 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at January 11, 2012 07:02 PM (BvTwT)
Featuring Granddad Snoop and his smoking hot pot pilots.
Special appearance by Bernie Jonesberg, the only Black Jew in the army air force, taking on those racist Nazi's.
Not to be missed!
Posted by: Geroge Lucas at January 11, 2012 07:02 PM (hXJOG)
Posted by: Clarence at January 11, 2012 07:01 PM (z0HdK)
Something about "some animals are more equal than others" comes to mind.
So suck on that you idiotic knobgobbler.
Posted by: buzzion at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: mbruce at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (Fr8N6)
Posted by: robtr at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (GZitp)
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Oh I'm off to the googles to look that up...
I'm glad my instincts were right about The Spirit. That movie should've been right in my wheelhouse, but something about the previews made me know better.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 06:59 PM (burns)
********
One of the guys that was with us said...
Hey I'm into Eve Mendes ass-but I can't take any more of this...
Boom! we were outta there....
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (X3KAb)
capitalists, filmmakers, authors, engineers, inventors, etc.
It's actually kinda tragic. You hear the riot act that Steve Jobs read Barack Obama, and you realize that super-smart doesn't mean self-aware. Jobs was a Democrat because San Franciscans are Democrats, not because he necessarily believed the same stuff they did.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (bjRNS)
And even if some Africans sold their people into slavery that does not excuse the vile acts of the slave traders.
The great thing about America Is that despite that history, it has become the country that offers the most opportunity to anyone of any heritage.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (21lBC)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2012 07:03 PM (GZitp)
Roger that! I 10-4 you on that one, Goose.
Out.
Posted by: dan-O at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (sWycd)
Not sure, where the confusion lies but the Japanese most certainly attacked Australia.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:00 PM (RfvTE)
Some air raids on Port Darwin, months after the war was going on. They also hit Ceylon. They needed boots on the ground for the real nasty stuff.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:05 PM (z1N6a)
You're the one who's defensive about it. I'm not defensive about it. It happened -- it's a fact. Draw whatever lesson you like, but facts is facts, Jack.
What I don't get is your politically correct sense of entitlement that you want history actively censored to not put you on the defensive or discomfit you.
I didn't do the Tuskegee Experiment, so I have no guilt about it. But I also don't think it needs to be suppressed.
It happened. A lot of bad shit has happened. White people did a bunch of it.
But just because I'm white doesn't make me responsible for other white people. There is no racial justice nor racial responsibility.
You talk as if you take it to heart, that it burns deep in your bosom, that a member of the White Race done something wrong.
So what? Jeffrey Dahmer was white.
How about stop thinking in terms of race like that if you want others to stop, too?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:05 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Ronster at January 11, 2012 07:05 PM (JGYCE)
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 07:05 PM (84pE9)
If you get the medicine back and give it to the soldiers you are awarded dark side points.
Just did that quest yesterday on my trooper, and yeah, thought that was a little messed up. It's dark side to save the life of your *fellow soldiers*?
Similarly, there's this quest where telling a boy to go back to his family is Dark Side, whereas giving him money to run away and telling his parents that he's dead will be Light Side.
Light != Good, that's my theory.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 11, 2012 07:05 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 06:57 PM (z1N6a)
Dogfight is enjoyable but frustrating. Only having a view through the front windscreen doesn't lend itself goodfighting strategy. I'd love to be able to look to the side or the top of my canopy to see what my adversary was doing in a tight turn or loop.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (qHiQk)
Heh, i still like that movie, seen it about half a dozen times, Dan Akroyd has a dildo for a nose! That right there is all my brain needs to enjoy that flick.
Posted by: booger at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (EjNp5)
The Watchmen?
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:36 PM (r2PLg)
I think I'm the only guy in the country who liked the 'Watchmen' movie. Jackie Earle Haley's portrayal of Rorschach was an amazing performance.
Posted by: troyriser at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (YCeSE)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (X3KAb)
Correct.
And all those people who criticize Jar Jar Binks?
That's right... racists.
Posted by: George Lucas at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (sWycd)
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 06:56 PM (r2PLg)
Natural Born Killers. Sorry, but gratuitous violence in never entertaining to me and that was just pure shit.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (+ePlO)
Ask Warren about taxing life insurance benefits.
The beneficiaries did nothing to receive that money. And, if they did, and it's proven in a court of law, they don't get it anyway.
Why not tax the crap out of it?
... Because Warren owns life insurance companies, perhaps? hmmmmmm?
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (h6mPj)
Incredibly bad.
These are all good picks.
I saw Batman & Robin in the theater. Howzabout that?
I don't even think people credit that as a bad movie because it is so far beneath the standards of movies they don't even think of it as a movie.
But it is technically a movie. And it was awful.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (nj1bB)
Glad to see people using this thread as an excuse to drop "n*gger" and "coon" jokes.Betcha guys have had those building up for months now, eh?
Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2012 06:50 PM (hIWe1)
Humphrey Bogart had you pegged way back in 1954 in The Caine Mutiny :
Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They
laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt
and with... geometric logic...
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Errol at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (vewos)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:07 PM (lVGED)
Only a Sith believes in absolutes.
*That is probably one of the top worst sentences ever uttered in Cinema*.
Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi at January 11, 2012 07:07 PM (UR5vq)
So what you are saying is, you spent thousands of dollars on your daughter's college degree, then sat through an awful graduation ceremony?
The heck you say! And they send requests for her, as an alumni, to contribute? Money?? Why, I never heard of such a thing. It's like teh librals have taken over our colleges or something!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:07 PM (Gc/Qi)
"MASH" was R, so I (17yo) got in okay, but we needed to get creative to getmy (15yo) girlfriend in.
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 11, 2012 07:07 PM (j+Izh)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 07:08 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi at January 11, 2012 07:07 PM (UR5vq)
The second worst was probably also uttered in the Prequels. And the third worst. And 4th, etc...
Posted by: buzzion at January 11, 2012 07:09 PM (GULKT)
Well, ace we ARE still paying for the sins of the past and will always if the liberals have their way. Remember reparations?
Check this out, http://tinyurl.com/7y76jdf
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 11, 2012 07:09 PM (hXJOG)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (lVGED)
"Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" was released in December.
Maybe there's an award for Gary Oldman.
FWIW I liked it, but I read the books.Might not make a lot of sense to anyone who hasn't.
Theyput ina littleof le Carre'sstupid moral equivalence.
The theatre was much more crowded than I'd have thought. The crowd was much older than usual. There were no kids.
Posted by: frankly at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (KpDv0)
Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (I2LwF)
you're obviously of age that should feel responsible in some fashion.
Or your children, and then their children, and then their children's
children should have that yolk hung around their neck.
What?
Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (TCgts)
Nope. It's bad, but the worst is The Hottie and the Nottie. My friends specialize in bad movies and we MST3K the hell out of them. It's the only movie we weren't able to make it even 1/2 way through....and we've done Manos: The Hands of Fate (non MST3K version) with no problem.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 07:10 PM (G99e4)
Well, I have that one on disc. It wasn't too bad, the premise about creating dreams to invade and control someone's mind wasn't bad. I don't read a whole lot of SF, so I can't say for sure if it had been done before, butI'm prettysure it has.
But the movie was just OK. I could kinda see the end coming, because even I got confused after the first couple of dream levels. It was well explained even though it seemed to start in the middle of the plot. And the special effects were pretty good, a decent mix of CG and real sets. It coulda used a Third Rock reference just for fun, if it did, I missed it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 07:11 PM (d0Tfm)
frustrating. Only having a view through the front windscreen doesn't
lend itself goodfighting strategy. I'd love to be able to look to the
side or the top of my canopy to see what my adversary was doing in a
tight turn or loop.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:06 PM (qHiQk)
I did not know there was an actual game. There's a series of documentary shows on the Military Channel that I TIVO these days.The one on the German unit that rammed bombers in '45 with their planes was pretty cool. They had guys from the ramming planes and the rammee planes giving commentary.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:11 PM (z1N6a)
What's the old saying?
"Any film originally released in January or February (not counting the ones that are released in "limited engagements" in December for Oscar consideration) are generally to be avoided"?
Don't know if that's still true or not, but I've always found it to be true.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 11, 2012 07:11 PM (0xqzf)
Or your children, and then their children, and then their children's children should have that yolk hung around their neck.It should never end, because people should never be able to say, "Don't blame that shit on me."
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 07:00 PM (phlKA)
It's a yoke you fucking idiot.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 07:12 PM (7+pP9)
The last time I checked we had a black man voted in as President.
It's the timing of the release relative to the election (like the Osama mission movie) and the disingenuous remarks about marketing that are what are laughable.That and your comment you potato head.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2012 07:12 PM (HBqDo)
But this idea that we're going to engage in denialism as a political strategy is silly.
These things actually happened, whether it is politically helpful or not . facts don't give a shit about which way they point politically.
This really was a rather bad thing that people did. Why is that soooo hard to admit? Why does that become a "political" thing?
Is the topic of capturing people and forcing them and their children (!!!) into permanent slavery somehow up for current political discussion?
No. It was WRONG. Period. I'm not happy my yankee ancestors agreed to this, either.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (nj1bB)
"Kokoda 2006"
I really enjoyed. Was about the Australian soldiers fighting the Japanese.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Bob Undead Saget at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (21lBC)
The only thing is is that we hardly hear this part at all, especially in leftspeak. When it's left out and all one hears is theeverything else, it tends to become a harangue.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 11, 2012 07:14 PM (tKFT6)
Not only did I waste about two hours of my lifetime, but it caused me to question whether life really was worth living.
Okay maybe that last part wasn't exactly true, but it was that bad.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:14 PM (21lBC)
Since people are ironically naming bad movies AND this is a thread about George Lucas, I think I have to provide a link to this xkcd comic.
Posted by: dan-O at January 11, 2012 07:14 PM (sWycd)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:14 PM (7W3wI)
What I don't get is your politically correct sense of entitlement that
you want history actively censored to not put you on the defensive or
discomfit you.
What I did not want, after spending tens of thousands of dollars on my daughters education, is some liberal arts institution deciding that the keynote speaker should spend an hour or so lecturing a predominately (~99% or so) white audience on some injustice which occurred decades before my daughters birth. That injustice was not part of my experience, my daughters experience, and only spoke to the inability of some people to put the past behind them and move into the next millennium without continuing an ages old call for reparations from people entirely not responsible for actions of the past.
It's the never-ending 'victim mentality' that causes me concern and raises my bile level.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 07:14 PM (phlKA)
"Kokoda 2006"
I really enjoyed. Was about the Australian soldiers fighting the Japanese.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (RfvTE)
The Kokoda trail is a road over the mountains in New Guinea. By holding the Japanese there, they kept them from moving further south and really doing damage to Australia proper.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:15 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 11, 2012 07:16 PM (tKFT6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2012 07:16 PM (Qjh0I)
history, it has become the country that offers the most opportunity to
anyone of any heritage.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:04 PM (21lBC)
Amen. And that is due to how it was founded.
If Hollywood directors insist on going the all-black route for whatever reason, I wish someone would adapt an old favorite novel of mine called The Dahomean by Frank Yerby. It's set in old Dahomey among the Mandinka tribe (also called the Mandingo tribe) and it doesn't sugarcoat what the tribe was like and it is made clear that black Africans sold each other into slavery.Then again most Hollywood directors would probably fuck it up.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:16 PM (T2/zQ)
The Court Martial of Jackie Robinson is a movie I want to see sometime.
Posted by: fluffy, race: indeterminate at January 11, 2012 07:17 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:17 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: Brawndo-arien at January 11, 2012 07:17 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:17 PM (I2LwF)
The movie could suck. That's even probably. But Hollywood produced plenty of awful anti-war movies.
Awful anti-war movies that consistently flop still get Hollywood backing.
But a patriotic, flag-waving movie that possibly sucks can't get a dime?
Posted by: Benson at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (qzcNU)
Completely O/T, but I saw this comment on the last thread, and cannot find the picture anywhere.....
>>>>16The photo of Biden sitting alone amongst rows of empty chairs at Jug-ears speech today is priceless (Drudge).
Posted by: ChristyBlinky loves Rubio at January 11, 2012 05:53 PM (baL2B)<<<<Did anyone get a screenshot, by any chance?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (0xqzf)
Well... yes, it is going to be about that. It happened. How could you possibly write the movie without that?
It's not possible. Unless you want to have a pro-segregation kind of message, in which you explain "And all of this made sense, and was good and right." Which I assume you don't want to do, so...
I understand griping about PC messages in movies which don't have anything to do with race. this one does, unavoidably, as a central matter.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (nj1bB)
....so this really does have a shot at being good.
Posted by: Sgt. York at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (nN28y)
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (+ePlO)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:18 PM (21lBC)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (I2LwF)
You'll get in trouble. Didn't you see Risky Business?
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (lVGED)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (7W3wI)
Is the topic of capturing people and forcing them
and their children (!!!) into permanent slavery somehow up for current
political discussion?
No. It was WRONG. Period. I'm not happy my yankee ancestors agreed to this, either.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:13 PM (nj1bB)
Holy Jeebus Ace -- you can really be a dumbshit at times.
It's more realistic to blame it on the coastal African tribes, the British slave shippers and the southern plantation owners than "my yankee ancestors".
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 07:19 PM (7+pP9)
And foreign films that get praised to high heaven? Try The Tim Drum. It's a movie that shouldn't be watched by anybody. German movie, about a midget during WWII. It's pornographic in all the worst senses of the word, and all these years later I honestly don't recall if there was any sex in it, but I'm pretty sure there was.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:20 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Rev Al at January 11, 2012 07:20 PM (hXJOG)
Once again, I would like to point out that Lucas did not write or direct (as he did with the prequels)...
Lucas's influence was toned down in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and the movie still sucked.
Lucas has the Reverse Midas Touch.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (UR5vq)
family is Dark Side, whereas giving him money to run away and telling
his parents that he's dead will be Light Side.
WTH? Were his parents beating the kid to death?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (0q2P7)
I think it was called Dogfight or Dogfighter, I can't remember exactly. But a person could choose a WWI, WWII, or a jet-age dogfight along withlevels of engagementdifficulty.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (0xqzf)
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (YdQQY)
patriotic, very jingoistic, very old-fashioned, corny, just exactly like
'Flying Leathernecks' only this one was held up for release from 1942
when it was shot, and I’ve been trying to get it released ever since.”
I do not understand this quote. I followed the link to see if there was anything in the original that cleared it up, but nope. It was "held up for release from 1942 when it was shot"? Obviously, he did not shoot this movie in 1942. It may have been set in 1942, but the sentence still doesn't make sense. The article says something about 23 years, so that would put the shooting at some point after 1989, but that isn't even close to 1942. Maybe he shot it in 1992, and someone transcribed the 4 into a 9?
I like to focus on the really important stuff.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (k34Gz)
Posted by: Pinhead at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (UR5vq)
And yet you'd watch a WWII movie generally, right? Or WWI? Or the Civil War? Or Revolutionary War?
Why is this specific thing "outside of your experience" and therefore it's wrong to tell you about?
I agree about the victim mentality. But you're talking like you have a bit of a victim mentality too.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (VMcEw)
Ace: Got no problem with them addressing it. The problem is, I don't trust Hollywood to not shift it from how these guys were actually heroes to a 2 1/2 hour bitchfest about how eeeeeeeeeeevil the white-dominated Army Air Corps (and by extension: America and all whites everywhere forever) was, with a little bit of bad CGI flying.
And being Lucas, there's a more than even chance that they'll ride a giant alien ball-cow-dinosaur-thing around in a badly-inserted 'love' scene.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (G99e4)
Lucas's influence was toned down in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and the movie still sucked."
Oh I very much disagree (we much). Watch the extras on Crystal Skull and you'll see some very revealing interviews with Spielberg who openly expresses his exasperation that Lucas insisted on so many silly elements for Crystal Skull.
Posted by: Sgt. York at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (nN28y)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Max Power at January 11, 2012 07:23 PM (q177U)
I thought it was OK. The first one was the best though.
Posted by: Vic at January 11, 2012 07:23 PM (YdQQY)
He's saying it's so gung-ho in spirit and so like a WWII propaganda/morale film that it's AS IF he actually made it in 1942, during patriotism war-fever, and is only getting to release it now.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:23 PM (nj1bB)
anything in the original that cleared it up, but nope. It was "held up
for release from 1942 when it was shot"? Obviously, he did not shoot
this movie in 1942. It may have been set in 1942, but the sentence still
doesn't make sense."
It does if you watch the clip. Lucas was joking.
Posted by: Sgt. York at January 11, 2012 07:23 PM (nN28y)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (lVGED)
Was IMO, an excellent film about POWs during the Japanese invasion of the Philippines.
I saw another excellent war movie recently, about the Russians and German line, but cant recall the name.
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (RfvTE)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (+lsX1)
I will gladly if I never have to see that film again, but since it's hell it's probably on repeat.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (tKFT6)
damn you, Lincoln! lol
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:17 PM (I2LwF)
Don't make me come over there.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (T2/zQ)
hahhahaha. Right, it was all the blacks. Whites had NOTHING to do with slavery! We are unbesmirched.
Keep on defending the good name of the White Race.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (nj1bB)
I like to focus on the really important stuff.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 11, 2012 07:21 PM (k34Gz)
He may mean the movie - "1941"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: sTevo at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (VMcEw)
Them's fightin' words.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:25 PM (+ePlO)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 06:33 PM
We've got that covered.
Posted by: San Fernando Valley at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (ay6+/)
There are terrible movies that are supposed to be terrible, and then
there are the ones that get raved about that are really horrible.
Last Tango in Paris and Pulp Fiction for me.
I saw The Help recently with a friend (she wanted to see it; she had read the book). I think it's a well-executed movie, but I found myself really irritated by what I perceived to be the underlying assumption that all was fine and dandy up north and that this country's entire problem vis a vis race relations was the south's fault. And, of course, the (we're supposed to think) 'heroic' white chick at the end leaves the women she jeopardized behind so she could move to the great (white) north.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (7W3wI)
How and what the 92nd did depends on who you ask: They were only on the line for two days in Italy. The White officers said the men broke and ran; the Af-Am men said the officers were inept / cowards, and ordered a retreat
The 'Red Tails' did okay, but nothing to fuss about.
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (UqKQV)
Yeah, I did say I got suckered into the other two. By the third one, I just checked my intellect at the door and had a good time. Giant robots, Carrie Ann Moss nekkid and 'splosions and fight scenes, what's not to like?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 07:27 PM (d0Tfm)
But now I know the White Race has never, ever done anything wrong. Whew!!!
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:27 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2012 07:28 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Rev Al at January 11, 2012 07:28 PM (hXJOG)
^This.
I think ace missed the point of the original post.
IMHO, graduation speakers should talk about things that are uplifting for the students and the parents, not use their bully pulpit to push their pet issue.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:29 PM (5H6zj)
It sounds deranged.
You are no more responsible for the crime of a distant white ancestor than you are -- here's the tricky party -- to be credited for the discovery or achievement of a distant white ancestor.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:29 PM (nj1bB)
I never saw Last Tango, but I can understand why people hate Pulp Fiction. I think it's pretty darned good, but you have to go in with the expectation that you really don't care what happens to any of these people. I kinda think that's what Tarantino was going for, see if he could hold your interest IN SPITE of the fact that everybody in the movie is despicable.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:29 PM (Gc/Qi)
Well... yes, it is going to be about that. It happened. How could you possibly write the movie without that?
I have no problem watching a movie about real life people who had to overcome racism or most any other serious obstacle, on their way to success. I love those movies, I find them inspirational. Red Tails has that potential.
A two hour sermon like Crash or Higher Learning though. Unwatchable.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 11, 2012 07:29 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (7W3wI)
What was Frank Miller thinking?
*****
I can get Eve Mendes to show me her ass cheeks?
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Shiggz at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (RfvTE)
Barbarians at the Gate
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (FsqHK)
Denzel Washington should have gotten the best actor award that year for hurricane. So they gave it to him for training day the next year when they were giving all the other black people Oscars or nomination. The Oscars that year were so transparenlyinsulting. Hollywood racists.
The messed up capitalization and spacing is my iPhone's fault and I can't be bothered to fix it.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (21lBC)
distant white ancestor than you are -- here's the tricky party -- to be
credited for the discovery or achievement of a distant white ancestor.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:29 PM (nj1bB)
My ancestor create fire and the wheel, top that!
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:31 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Truman North at January 11, 2012 07:31 PM (I2LwF)
It's a WWII flying film ..
... let the planes and the 50 cals do most of the talkin'
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:31 PM (h6mPj)
Wild Wild West. Godawfully bad, but you totally see Salma Hayek's butt in those trap-door pajamas.
That right there gets it to two stars.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:31 PM (nj1bB)
Should is one thing, but I would hope anyone going to a graduation ceremony these days won't be shocked to find that someone wishes to issue them a lecture instead of a celebration of the graduates.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:32 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:32 PM (7W3wI)
from the trailer is that it looks to over-exaggerate the Tuskegee
Airmen's contribution to the war. Helpful, yes, but not TEH BESTEST
THING EVAR! Sort of how the French basically claim that the Maquis
liberated France with a little bit of help from the Brits and Americans.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 11, 2012 07:30 PM (FsqHK)
Well, that may just be trailer hype. Remains to be seen if the movie itself makes the same claim.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:32 PM (z1N6a)
Blacks did not serve in any combat units in Marine Corps in WWII; in
the Army they were in the 92 ID with White officers and two anti-tank
battalions in Europe.
My father was an officer with a Black company that went to Trinidad for a year. The entire unit got kicked out because all the local women were going out with the Black soldiers who had money and the local men didn't approve.
True story.
You know, of course, Trinidad is a Black country, right?
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 11, 2012 07:32 PM (hXJOG)
omg someone told me that..
anyways the butter scene-I was made to go google that.
Let's just say--
Steel Panther should be sued for stealing that scene.
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:32 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Commenter at January 11, 2012 07:33 PM (xHenH)
Air Games?
SWOTL was the shitz.
You could fly real period airplanes or a few of the X-planes (like the Horton flying wing) of WWII. You could look around the cockpit, out the canopy in different directions -- you could even fly a B-17 as a pilot, a crew member, or switch from pilot to crew member as you wished.
Flak AI enemy fighters -- everything. There's nothing that compares to it today.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 07:33 PM (7+pP9)
I would be fine with it if it weren't for Kenneth Brannagh. He was so jarring in that movie.
I know everyone here hates Will Smith, but I think he's kinda cute in that movie (and cute overall). And I love that song.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:33 PM (5H6zj)
If you don't disagree, and I assume you don't, what's the problem?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
Yes, I do. You can probably look up my approximate location based on my IP and then do a couple minutes of research and find that I live near the top of one of the top 50 highest taxed counties in the nation. It's tough to earn enough money to pay my own taxes on income to local, county, state and federal, much less some never-ending form of reparations based on actions entirely out of my control into the future. Some people (not you) need to get over it unless they want to start exhuming bodies and holding postmortem trials for people who resided in this country long before my ancestors ever stepped ashore.
While it may be true that those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it, I'd say that those who do not ease up a little on history are destined to annoy the hell out me.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (phlKA)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (Dm7bx)
problem is, I don't trust Hollywood to not shift it from how these guys
were actually heroes to a 2 1/2 hour bitchfest about how eeeeeeeeeeevil
the white-dominated Army Air Corps (and by extension: America and all
whites everywhere forever) was, with a little bit of bad CGI flying.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (G99e4)
ITA
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: soothie at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (KUrJA)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
A Piece Of The Action(1977)
Let's Do It Again (1975)
The Bingo Long Traveling All Stars And Motor Kings(1975)
Sounder (1973)
Porgy And Bess (1959)
Cabin In The Sky (1943)
Posted by: BuddyPC at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (JjjnQ)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (7W3wI)
That right there gets it to two stars.
****
LOL!
Do you know Steel Panther stole the butter...thing from Marlon Brando..gawd.
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah. I think he means Enemy at the Gates.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (hXJOG)
Cuba Gooding or Morgan Freeman have to be in every black movie.
I dunno about Cuba, but I love Morgan Freeman's voice.
I found Seven to be really upsetting (I'm a wimp), but I can watch it because of him. I try to ignore the fact that Morgan is apparently a soulless jerk.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:33 PM (5H6zj)
Nah, I don't hate Will Smith, just Scientology crap is freaky.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:36 PM (h6mPj)
Agree, seriously, that that was an injustice, and fight against higher taxes/welfare state-sim.
I don't see why doing the latter somehow requires denial of the former, or discomfort with the former.
It happened. You didn't do it-- I know that. So why are you defensive over it?
it had, quite literally, nothing to do with you.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:36 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 07:26 PM (UqKQV)
You're wrong. There were black units in every theater of WWII, even Alaska. They were mostly delegated to driving trucks and transporting supplies, but they endured the trial-by-fire everyone else did (especially in the Pacific).
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:36 PM (qHiQk)
Well, I flew as a navigator/WSO in F-4E Phantoms and what strikes me most from the commercial is that the airplanes do not move like airplanes. Basically, the aerial scenes look like crazy cartoons.
The Tuskegee fighter pilots were a great group but all of them together flew as much collectively as I did in my short Air Force career. Now, I'm not knocking them, just putting it in perspective. The Black Sheep, which got their own TV series, only flew for about three months of combat in the Pacific. They were on TV longer than they were a real unit.
So, I'm all up for a good war movie but there really aren't many of those. Most of them are just goofy. This looks like another one of those goofy movies.
Posted by: Tantor at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (K/+4b)
Posted by: soothie at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (vanqS)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (7W3wI)
Wasn't Barbarians at the Gate about RJR buying Nabisco?
Yeah. I think he means Enemy at the Gates.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (bjRNS)
So, what the hells is "Enemy Barbarians At The Gates" about?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (GaIwz)
340 Morgan Freeman is a good actor.
Ben Gazzara. He's a good actor.
Damn, what comedian used to do a schtick about that? I can't remember!
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 11, 2012 07:37 PM (21lBC)
274 If it was made iin the 50's the hero would be the crusading white
officer who champions the black fighter pilots.In truth,someone white
must have championed them or it would never have happened.
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:22 PM (7W3wI)
Well, in real life, some humane white person usually recognized excellence in individual black persons and did what he/she could to circumvent the mores of the bad old days. Or at least that's what my older relatives say. Often, said white person was Jewish.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:38 PM (T2/zQ)
It's what's called an 'art statement', like that pre-Christmas release Hugo from Scorcese, or that other recent release The Actor, done as a silent film. Those here familiar with Howard Hughes' Wings are going to notice so-called Easter eggs; actually, I'm sure lots of people on this site are going to be way better at finding them in this film than I was, WWII films aren't a special interest of mine; but I know from other viewers there were lots more Easter eggs than I could ever pick out.
It's also not hard to see that the motivation here is to fill a culture gap. I have no idea if it makes money in the theaters; it doesn't need to: Lucas got the film done & distributed after giving up on recovering production costs (plus making some side deals on future productions). If forced to guess, I'd guess he's going to recover at least some of his costs in marketing the DVD of this thing AS an Easter egg hunt.
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 11, 2012 07:39 PM (vahvH)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:39 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:39 PM (7W3wI)
Gilbert Gottfried, doing a bit where aliens come down to earth and ask, "Why doesn't Ben Gazarra get more work? he's a good actor."
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:34 PM (nj1bB)
I don't know either but if you make a movie about it, you are courageous.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (+ePlO)
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (PddVe)
And I already saw this once, when it was a corny HBO movie called "The Tuskegee Airmen".
Posted by: packsoldier at January 11, 2012 06:12 PM (MIT63)
We will never know. If a black hole saw a Lucus film coming it would turn white and start repelling everything.
Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock With No Name at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (Q5fHc)
Posted by: izoneguy at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (2/KD2)
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:41 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2012 07:41 PM (UR5vq)
Bomb Patrol : Afghanistan is very good. It's on G4.
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:24 PM (lVGED) I recorded all of those. It's compelling.
Who would have thought there would be a ground combat show featuring a Navy squad.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 11, 2012 07:41 PM (HBqDo)
It featured most of her! Now that's what I call a show!
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 11, 2012 07:41 PM (Dm7bx)
360 Caucasian Margaret Cho.
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:39 PM (7W3wI)
A White Whoppie Goldberg
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:42 PM (GaIwz)
not naked, just dressed in revealing clothes. No actual naughty bits shown.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:42 PM (nj1bB)
nevermind
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2012 07:42 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: soothie at January 11, 2012 07:42 PM (vanqS)
My reaction from the trailer was that it was going to be
too bon-motty.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:43 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:43 PM (7W3wI)
American Beauty was cringe-worthy. I think that's when I started to figure out that Hollywood types were fucked in the head.
And since you mentioned Denzel Washington, one of the most satisfying flicks is Man on Fire.
That's just pure badassery.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:43 PM (+ePlO)
dropped the cigar, broke something expensive trying to catch it, would
have set the house on fire and had the fire dept ruin the carpet putting
it out by now. Good thing he'll have till Sunday to rebuild the house
exactly the way it was so the wife will never know. Let me warn you,
just after you think you got away with it, she'll figure it out somehow.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 11, 2012 07:40 PM (GZitp)
Probably because you flipped left and right in the reconstruction phase...
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:44 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:44 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (5H6zj)
FIFY
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (tKFT6)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2012 07:41 PM (UR5vq)
And for some reason I'm a sucker for films that put real historical figures (U.S. Grant) in weird, funny, bizarre or otherwise fantastic situations. Citizen Kane it was not, but yeah, fun.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (O6q63)
where many Red Tail pilots were shot down in defense of the bombers they
were escorting, the bomber crews on the ground acknowledged the
surviving Red Tail pilots with solemn head nods that let you know that
they finally saw them as equals and deserving of not only respect, but
admiration. I think a scene like that would really make you think about
how we are all too willing to make snap judgments about people based on
superficial observation.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (+lsX1)
Well, they usually flew from different bases.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:46 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 07:46 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:47 PM (nj1bB)
>>> From Dusk till Dawn also featured some Hayek, did it not?
not naked, just dressed in revealing clothes. No actual naughty bits shown.
----
Now we've hit ace's wheel-house of knowledge! ;-)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:48 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:48 PM (T2/zQ)
I appreciate your support.
Posted by: Nicholas Cage as Benjamin Franklin Gates at January 11, 2012 07:48 PM (O6q63)
It happened. You didn't do it-- I know that. So why are you defensive over it?
it had, quite literally, nothing to do with you.
Here's the question... the speaker had to be aware that every family member in the audience (perhaps maybe not the grandparents) was not even born before the event he chose to elucidate upon so profusely. Why would the speaker choose to chastise a predominately not-involved-in-any-fashion audience for over an hour at a ceremony that should have been a celebration, not a recrimination?
I tend to think that some people choose not to forget slights, real or imagined, for their own benefit -- forever. Is that a character flaw to notice? If so, I'm pretty pathetic.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 11, 2012 07:49 PM (phlKA)
I think you see Thora Birch's boobies in American Beauty. Two stars. Unexpectedly action-packed.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:47 PM (nj1bB)
It's not the boobies per se - it is what they say about our society.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:49 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (7W3wI)
I forgot about that! Thanks for the reminder.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:49 PM (+ePlO)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:49 PM (7W3wI)
The Tuskegee Airmen compiled the following combat records:
261 aircraft destroyed148 aircraft damaged15,533 sorties
1,578 missions66 KIA
95 DFCs awarded450 Pilots sent overseas.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:50 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:50 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at January 11, 2012 07:50 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:50 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Ronster at January 11, 2012 07:50 PM (JGYCE)
Thanks ed. I was worried that a member of the White
Race had done something wrong at some point in history, which would
besmirch me because we share White Blood.
But now I know the White Race has never, ever done anything wrong. Whew!!!
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:27 PM (nj1bB)
Get over yourself Ace, you specifically called out your "yankee ancestors".
I'm hoping you're historically literate enough to know that coastal black Africans commonly captured other black Africans from the interior and sold them to white British slavers, who in turn, sold them to white southern plantation owners.
Maybe, though, you're too caught in the white northeast guilt trip to acknowledge actual history.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: toby928© at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:47 PM (nj1bB)
Nazi army guy who secretly wants to have buttsex with Kevin Spacey though, negates one of Thora's two star tatas.
Don't even get me started on the pre-OWS hippie dude with the camera.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 07:35 PM (bjRNS)
You're right. I thought of that while I was getting ready for work.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (+lsX1)
That's scene is in "Memphis Belle"
Matthew Modine, noted Caucasian, is protected by some Red Tails - doesn't know they're black and, after landing, tracks down the base where the guys that fly the Red Tailed P-51s are stationed to deliver them some whiskey.
Does the head nod / recognizes-peer thing. In kind of a dorky Matthew Modine way.
_
'Memphis Belle' fifty minutes of great movie making.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (h6mPj)
Agreed. It's worth repeated watchings, just like 300.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (d0Tfm)
Did someone mention Nic Cage...?
Gawd..
Ports of Call
you want a weird ass cheek sex scene...
And the dialogue during the sex-standing up in a parking lot...
Nic: Did your Dad abuse you? Molsest you?
Did they not get you the prom dress?
The . worst.
EVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:51 PM (r2PLg)
or was that just me?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (nj1bB)
Watch this clip, note the soldiers.
http://tinyurl.com/ywsewq
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (hXJOG)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (eCnLg)
Kate Winslet nude is the only thing I remember from Titanic,outside of the douche freezing to death.
Yea, you'd think her character would move over so Jack wouldn't die. I think she was regretting the one-night stand. "I'll always love you, Jack. Please stop dripping on me"... "Aren't you dead, yet?"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:53 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 11, 2012 07:53 PM (lVGED)
It's my new film about Bain's LBO of the Third Reich.
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at January 11, 2012 07:53 PM (+lsX1)
bored and thinking "What a chick-flick way to do this movie" and yet
very happy they'd tossed in a full minute of Kate Winslet's boobies for
the guys?
or was that just me?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:52 PM (nj1bB)
you didn't mention that you have some crayons and paper in your apartment to her, just incidentally?
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (z1N6a)
No I'm aware that black tribes caught members of other tribes then sold them to whites who transported them across the ocean to be in permanent lifetime bondage to other whites.
I'm just enjoying your breaking down history into My Tribe/Their Tribe for me.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: S Daniel at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (5H6zj)
while neither is, technically, flying an aircraft, it's pretty much the same thing.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:53 PM (GaIwz)
Dripping on her? Ya know that could be taken different ways?
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2012 07:55 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:49 PM (7W3wI)
Right.
"Don't let go, Rose!"
"I'll NEVER let go, Jack!"
*SPLASH!* (Sound of Jack hitting the waves as Rose pries him of her raft)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 07:55 PM (niZvt)
Jack wouldn't die. I think she was regretting the one-night stand. "I'll
always love you, Jack. Please stop dripping on me"... "Aren't you dead,
yet?"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 11, 2012 07:53 PM (GaIwz)
I was laughing at the fact that thirty seconds after he dies, she's looking for a chisel to pry his fingers off the raft so he can GTFO. "Never Let Go" indeed.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (z1N6a)
it was-
Bad Lieutenant
ort of Call New Orleans.
Worst sex scene dialogue EVER!!!!
Posted by: tasker at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Nissei at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (5H6zj)
Yeah, you're not missing anything.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (+ePlO)
The Big Easy has some sexy (non-sex) scenes too.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 07:58 PM (5H6zj)
Cool! I memorized dialogue from The Boys of Company C.
Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2012 07:58 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 07:59 PM (Gc/Qi)
Maybe it was the dagos. I forget.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 11, 2012 07:59 PM (l9zgN)
HEH.
I never thought I would see Eat, Pray, Love, either.
Look at me now. Some thing cannot be unseen.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 07:59 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 07:59 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2012 07:59 PM (7EV/g)
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (z1N6a)
Heh. A fucking mick. What was I thinking?
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 08:00 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Joe Biden, outta hidin' at January 11, 2012 08:00 PM (fM4AU)
Posted by: I've lost my nic & I can't get up at January 11, 2012 08:00 PM (Onw8c)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (UqKQV)
Yeah, but I'm the chick so if I don't want to watch Titanic, it ain't happening.
Mr Y-not is so damned lucky. I should ask for a raise.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (ybkwK)
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 07:56 PM (+ePlO)
Bullshit...that's one hell of a boat wreck....Just watch that part...
Posted by: Portnoy at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (1P9Wb)
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 08:00 PM (qHiQk)
No the Irish are all ethnic and wonderful. They dance and everything!
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (z1N6a)
385 Book of Eli is good as well.Denzel is good,real good.
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 07:45 PM (7W3wI)
I just saw that movie for the first time a few weeks ago, due to many Morons recommending it. One word: WOW!!!!Denzel is one of the greats of any generation and he has a knack for picking the best roles and running with them.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 08:02 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 08:02 PM (G99e4)
Posted by: Portnoy at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (1P9Wb)
The boat scenes are too far apart. Rent "A Night to Remember" instead.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (z1N6a)
The young girl I took to see the movie with I eventually married and somehow I can never -- to this day -- ask her to 'get the butter'.
Posted by: Movie Historian at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (phlKA)
Ben Gazzara was in Road House. That's an immortal career right there in one movie.
Roadhouse!
Posted by: Peter Griffin at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at January 11, 2012 08:02 PM (G99e4)
In a seven hour movie.well, it seemed like that long.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (eCnLg)
Look for the scene where the pedo dad is lovingly explaining to his son why he molested other kids and not him.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 08:01 PM (UqKQV)
How you doin'?
Posted by: Zombie John Holmes at January 11, 2012 08:04 PM (1P9Wb)
I love how the Irish (usually maids) are portrayed in virtually every British television series (like the Poirots and Sherlock Holmes series).
I feel aggrieved. I think I'll go bomb Harrods.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:04 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:04 PM (5H6zj)
Me neither.
Posted by: SS Californian lookout at January 11, 2012 08:05 PM (PddVe)
Speaking of an all black cast, I'm watching the knicks play
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (eCnLg)I'll be all over this.
Posted by: Eric Holder, Department of Cowardice at January 11, 2012 08:06 PM (fM4AU)
Dude brought the JC Penny to town! A true legend.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at January 11, 2012 08:06 PM (8MCmv)
No I'm aware that black tribes caught members of
other tribes then sold them to whites who transported them across the
ocean to be in permanent lifetime bondage to other whites.
I'm just enjoying your breaking down history into My Tribe/Their Tribe for me.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 07:54 PM (nj1bB)
WTF kind of mind game are you lamely attempting to play here? You started the "tribal" shit with your focus on "yankees". Man up and admit it was a stupid thing to say.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 08:06 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: TheHillsaideWay at January 11, 2012 08:06 PM (rZZA3)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 08:07 PM (7W3wI)
in virtually every British television series (like the Poirots and
Sherlock Holmes series).
I feel aggrieved. I think I'll go bomb Harrods.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:04 PM (5H6zj)
I imagine in maid school the Irish girls were taught how to be "Irish".Like all Butlers learn to be English butlers.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 08:07 PM (z1N6a)
I never saw Titanic. And I doubt I ever will.
Me neither.
Posted by: SS Californian lookout at January 11, 2012 08:05 PM (PddVe)
Neither did I, and I'll swear to it in court. Titanic ran into me, it had the engines. I was just floating along and WHAM! a bunch of drunk limeys slam into me...
Posted by: The Iceberg at January 11, 2012 08:07 PM (GaIwz)
British television series (like the Poirots and Sherlock Holmes series).
Apparently, in the second season of Sherlock, Moriarty is going to be played by an Irish actor. First time ever, even though "Moriarty" is an Irish name.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 08:08 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:04 PM (5H6zj)
Interpol and Scotland Yard are SO all over you.
Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2012 08:08 PM (+ePlO)
Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 11, 2012 08:08 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 08:08 PM (bjRNS)
wait, when did Moriarty get drunk in the books?
Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2012 08:08 PM (z1N6a)
Yup. I could watch him read the LA phone book. Magnetic personality.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at January 11, 2012 08:09 PM (8MCmv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 08:10 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 08:10 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 08:07 PM (7W3wI)
Quit farting around, people. The absolutely worst movie ever ever made: Love Story.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 08:11 PM (qHiQk)
Wait, what??! He already had someone playing him. They're changing the actor?
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:11 PM (nj1bB)
It'll be interesting to see how they fit the "every Irishman (and woman) is a drunk simpleton" with Moriarty as master villain.
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:11 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:13 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:13 PM (5H6zj)
"We went to see the movie Red Tails last night, which I would recommend to anybody, but those guys' motto was the last plane, the last bullet, the last man, the last minute, we fight."
I thought it looked a little saccharine, but I can't argue with giant crystal trophies. I'll catch it on Netflix.
Posted by: Jordan at January 11, 2012 08:13 PM (RSG1I)
I never saw Titanic. And I doubt I ever will.
Me neither.Posted by: SS Californian lookout at January 11, 2012 08:05 PM (PddVe) Rent it then skip to Kate Winslet's tits and then the best part when that little crapweasel Leo DiCaprio freezes to death and sinks into the North Atlantic. 15 minutes tops.
Posted by: Jusn McAmnesty at January 11, 2012 08:13 PM (3jGS1)
Posted by: Al Gore at January 11, 2012 08:14 PM (phlKA)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:11 PM (5H6zj)
Easy. Moriarty went to Oxford.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2012 08:14 PM (qHiQk)
Posted by: Jordan at January 11, 2012 08:15 PM (RSG1I)
Nope, same actor. My mistake about the "second season" part; I haven't watched the first season on Netflix yet, so didn't know Moriarty had already shown.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 08:15 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: booger at January 11, 2012 08:17 PM (EjNp5)
Nomi Malone: I get a headache from champagne.
Cristal Connors: This isn't champagne. This... is HOLY WATER. I named myself after this holy water. Chrissie Lou Connors used to have dingy brown hair and little bitty tits. It's amazing what paint and a surgeon can do.
[they clink champagne glasses]
Cristal Connors: You have great tits. They're really beautiful.
Nomi Malone: Thank you.
Cristal Connors: I like nice tits. I always have, how about you?
Nomi Malone: I like having nice tits.
Cristal Connors: How do you like having 'em?
Nomi Malone: What do you mean?
Cristal Connors: You know what I mean.
Nomi Malone: I like having them in a nice dress, or a tight top.
Cristal Connors: Mmmm. You like to show em off.
Nomi Malone: I didn't like showing them off at the Cheetah.
Cristal Connors: Why not? I liked lookin' at 'em there. We ALL liked lookin' at 'em there!
Nomi Malone: It made me feel like a hooker.
Cristal Connors: You *are* a whore, darlin'.
Nomi Malone: No I'm not!
Cristal Connors: We all are. We take the cash, we cash the check, we show 'em what they wanna see.
Nomi Malone: Maybe YOU are a whore, Cristal, but I'm not.
Cristal Connors: You and me, we're exactly alike.
Nomi Malone: [shakes her head] I'll NEVER be like you.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 11, 2012 08:18 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Y-not at January 11, 2012 08:18 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: tommylotto at January 11, 2012 08:20 PM (LBxr1)
Regardless, it's a decent trailer and has potential. And it may be surprisingly good, (even if Lucas is a f*ckstick).
Posted by: Fritz at January 11, 2012 08:21 PM (3raPN)
How 'bout this-
what's the last good movie that you saw in the theatre?
Tinker, Tailer, Soldier, Spy was surprisingly good. Well done all around for what it is, and no liberal twist of the knife or wink at the camera that I could detect.
Posted by: Dave R. at January 11, 2012 08:22 PM (bAsJQ)
Yeah, watch the first season. When you first see Moriarity, you'll say "WRONG! WRONG! I OBJECT! WRONG!"
and three minutes later you'll say "I WAS TOTALLY WRONG THREE MINUTES AGO!!"
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:23 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 11, 2012 08:24 PM (V6fqC)
452 [Denzel] also doesn't open his mouth and alienate huge sections of his audience.
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 08:03 PM (7W3wI)
I suspect that he's a closet conservative. But I've been wrong before. See: Morgan Freeman.Here's one thing about Denzel: he seems to have a brain in his head, something unusual for any actor.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 08:24 PM (T2/zQ)
Once they went into the water they were going to freeze to death anyway, unless they could get out of those clothes and get to a source of heat. So what didn't make sense was Kate Winslet surviving.
Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 11, 2012 08:25 PM (7EV/g)
Kate Winslet nude is the only thing I remember from Titanic,outside of the douche freezing to death.
Whoa. Kate flashed the sweater kittens in that movie? Maybe I should relax my "No Chick Flicks" rule just this once.
As far as Kate appearing nude....dunno about that. The use of merkins to protect shy starlets the shame of going full monty has been around for longer than I've been alive. Heck, prostitutes in the 17th century used them to disguise that their nethers were shaved bare, (anti louse measures), from prospective clients.
Further, I find it insulting...borderline offensive that this site is plagued with spam advertising 'pipe fittings', instead of pubic wigs.
Posted by: DngrMse at January 11, 2012 08:26 PM (hFGXE)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 11, 2012 08:26 PM (V6fqC)
Posted by: rabidfox at January 11, 2012 08:27 PM (c8Sy+)
Posted by: moncler down jacket at January 11, 2012 08:27 PM (APKCx)
Seriously? People still go to a movie theater now days?
Save your money folks. If it was good in the theater it will be better when you can get it on netflix or some such.
Posted by: jem at January 11, 2012 08:28 PM (0oYHO)
True story (from Night to Remember): Titanic's baker started drinking whiskey when he realized the ship was sinking. He went into the water and survived way past the normal survival time in 28degree water until he was picked up.
Posted by: SS Californian lookout at January 11, 2012 08:28 PM (PddVe)
Showgirls is pretty hard to top as a Bad Movie:
And NPR built it up *almost* as much as Amistad.
See a trend there?
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 11, 2012 08:28 PM (7+pP9)
It's in the queue. We're probably going to re-watch Baccano! first, to make sure we caught everything.
Speaking of: I recommend Baccano!, so long as you stop with episode 13, where the story ends. They tacked on episodes 14-16 because there was money to be made, and they don't add anything. The main story is about immortal alchemists during Prohibition, and has a neat story-telling technique where they jump between three story lines in '30, '31, and '32.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 11, 2012 08:29 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: rabidfox at January 11, 2012 08:29 PM (c8Sy+)
"There were Fokkers to the left, Fokkers to the right, Fokkers above and below."
"Wait, Uncle Waldo, I thought you said they were Messerschmidts?"
"Yes, therewere Fokkers in them Messerschmidts."
Posted by: Uncle Waldo at January 11, 2012 08:31 PM (KpDv0)
Posted by: Dave R. at January 11, 2012 08:31 PM (bAsJQ)
One of the worst POS I've ever seen was Traffic.
Posted by: steevy at January 11, 2012 08:07 PM (7W3wI)
I got it from Netflix and watched it for about ten minutes. Then I turned it off. I sent it back a few days later. When I do that, the movie is bad.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 11, 2012 08:31 PM (T2/zQ)
@463: "Dear FBI agents,
That was a joke.
Y-not"
We don't care. We barbeque kids in Texas. We shoot unarmed mothers in Idaho. We overlook the running of guns to Los Zetas. We ran with Whitey Bulger, and we're pretty sure that the Mick Mob in Boston sent at least a little love to the Boyos in the Provos. MI-6 might want to have a word with you, though.
Posted by: The FBI at January 11, 2012 08:33 PM (FsqHK)
Posted by: booger at January 11, 2012 08:33 PM (EjNp5)
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at January 11, 2012 08:34 PM (vWrND)
Posted by: Schweinfurt/Regensburg raid veterans at January 11, 2012 08:35 PM (FsqHK)
Of course, the definition of "white" may have changed over the years.
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 11, 2012 08:36 PM (j+Izh)
No you don't get it. This is a sort of soft denialism. Not actual denialism, where you deny the fact, but instead just insist "I don't want to hear about these things, ever, and that's my right."
And part of that was reflected in the griping about Red Tails, about whether there'd be scenes showing discrimination. of course there will be.
Look, these things happened. I understand complaints about being preached at but at some point it just sounds like people think they have a right to not hear anything that might possibly be used against them in a court of politics.
facts are facts, history is history. these things happened. facts don't have a political agenda, in and of themselves, and it's silly to use a political agenda to screen out facts.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:46 PM (nj1bB)
it was. It doesn't hurt us to say so, nor should it hurt us to hear it.
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:47 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:48 PM (nj1bB)
oh, hells, no.
I saw that movie in the theater.
It was soul-deadeningly formulaic.
Including the acting.
I'll watch The Mighty Quinn a dozen times before I watch Unstoppable again.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 08:49 PM (h6mPj)
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/unstoppable-trailer/1259996
Posted by: ace at January 11, 2012 08:50 PM (nj1bB)
Most overrated actor (and I use that term very loosely) on the planet.
Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at January 11, 2012 08:50 PM (ga+4F)
The evil that was the "Tuskegee Experiment".
At the time this started, there was no cure for syphyllis. Penicillum did not exist. The evil was that doctors monitored the pathology of black men that were infected with syphyllis for years to understand the disease and its progression. And I don't know if they were treatable in later years when penicillum became available, but it was a long term baseline study of the progression of, at the time, a basically incurable STD.
On another note, a lady who worked for me had a "welcome home" party at a local "private" military museum in Columbus for her son returning from Iraq in 2004. She and her son are A. Americans. There were several of the local "Tuskegee Airmen" veterans present, and they were terrific old guys. They weren't whiners or complainers, just Americans who were proud to serve and defend their country. It's their country too.
The movie and George Lucas might suck bigtime, but it was a great story and deserves to be told.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 11, 2012 08:56 PM (sJTmU)
While I was performing this important task for the FAA, I met an old man who told me he used to fly P-47 Thunderbolts. He bragged to me that he personally pointed a gun at the head of a black pilot who only wanted to enter the Officers Club.
Unfortunately, this man is probably dead and will never suffer the ignominy of seeing this movie. I will be going to watch this movie with my children so I can dishonor the memory of this P-47 pilot I met over 30 years ago. Fuck him and may he rot in hell.
I think Lucas moves are the Microsoft Windows of the Entertainment Industry. They're adequate and most of the time they work. I am not a movie critic and I care more about how the story is told than how realistic the CGI looks.
Judging from the trailer, I think I will not be disappointed.
Posted by: Lottaguns at January 11, 2012 08:56 PM (1KIjV)
It's all done on spreadsheets, and is very matter of fact. There's no racism involved in the equation. The mentality would be something like this: This film will cost us 35 Million to market. That means this film would have to make at least 70 Mill, just to recoup the Marketing. But, wait...Lucas paid for it. So, he'd be first dollar out (e.g. he'd have to make the production money back, before the Distributor got theirs. Roughly). The budget was 60 Mill. Essentially, the film would have to make 150+ Mill before everyone recouped their cash. This film would appeal mostly to Black People and there are no "stars". Black folks are a minority. Therefore, we don't think enough Black folks would pay to see it to generate the numbers we need.
In a nut shell.
It's a nightmare to get a movie made anymore. Trust me. Good? Entertaining? Engaging? Never enters the equation. It's all about the spreadsheet. Which is why you see the same bullshit over and over.
Posted by: Bat Guy at January 11, 2012 08:58 PM (cheRG)
Posted by: Will never watch a Lucas movie agian after crystal skull at January 11, 2012 08:58 PM (0cBMc)
Lucas has a LOT to atone for (like 1-3 Kingdom of the Shitty Props), but I'd go see this. It has potential; shame if it doesn't turn out to be historically accurate as another poster claims.
Posted by: Linlithgow at January 11, 2012 09:04 PM (Gim9y)
It's a nightmare to get a movie made anymore. Trust me. Good? Entertaining? Engaging? Never enters the equation. It's all about the spreadsheet. Which is why you see the same bullshit over and over.
I watched 'Helvetica'
I guess I can watch a movie about Visicalc
- so long as there are tits.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 11, 2012 09:07 PM (h6mPj)
I liked unstoppable, but I think I liked the SNL parody even more.
Heh, i hadn't seen that, sums up the movie well. Yeah it's formulaic as hell but meh, i liked it. just looked it up and i'm surprised it isn't a Bruckheimer flick, it's got all the hallmarks of one.
Posted by: booger at January 11, 2012 09:09 PM (EjNp5)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 11, 2012 09:10 PM (r4wIV)
I know we had all those "Pearl Harbor" movies, and "Baa, Baa Black Sheep" on TV, but how about a Movie on the 475th Fighter Group in the Pacific, in their awesome P-38's? With a guest appearance by Charles Lindbergh...and the most fantastic fighter ace of the day, a fellow by the name of Dick Bong? Hollywood gold, right there.
Posted by: 66chevelle at January 11, 2012 09:10 PM (QjSgY)
watch it several times a year with my kids. Hilarity ensues.
*Oh no. There's two of them.* [BLAM] *Back to one.*
[Holding up a severed toe] *Does this look like your suspect?*
*No, I think he was a little taller.*
And, Betty White!
Posted by: I've lost my nic & I can't get up at January 11, 2012 09:14 PM (Onw8c)
denialism. Not actual denialism, where you deny the fact, but instead
just insist "I don't want to hear about these things, ever, and that's
my right."
See, no-one is saying that except you. I'm not only not unwilling to hear about it, I've done my own voluntary reading on it. It's not news to me. I've never thought our ancestors were saints, and I'm willing to hear about their sins, and I do so in my own reading of history. But when someone, say, stands up in the middle of a classical music concert, or, lacking the skill to actually show real problems in cinema and so turns their head to the camera metaphorically to deliver an out-of-character didactic lecture in the middle of a movie, or even takes the opportunity to big-foot a commencement address to their paying customers, then yes, I do object to that. At the very least I'd like to be able to call it what is, part of a one-way street in terms of what's acceptable to say in polite society.
I can tell this means a lot to you, but you're reading something into my words that isn't there, and something into the original commenter's that I just don't see.
Posted by: Dave R. at January 11, 2012 09:21 PM (bAsJQ)
In summary:
Hollywood sucks. They have no original ideas, and now create message movies to pit one group against others.
Slavery sucks, it was worldwide for a VERY long time and everyone has an ancestor that was enslaved.
Liberals suck. They agree with movies that want us all to be convinced that we government slaves.
Posted by: seamrog at January 11, 2012 09:23 PM (uhONM)
Brit puppet com Mongrels has a Morgan Freeman character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkL42MgGjtk
Morgan Freeman Lamb From BBC 3's Mongrels
Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2012 09:24 PM (G6kli)
Still worldwide, just not getting the press it should. Where the fuck you think foreign hookers come from?
Posted by: Mike Hunt at January 11, 2012 09:26 PM (G6kli)
Foreign hookers ? I guess they'd come from outside the country.
Are you talking about sex slaves ?
I know it still exists in way too many places, I meant that it's now seen by many (not enough) to be wrong.
Posted by: seamrog at January 11, 2012 09:46 PM (uhONM)
Yep, Roger Zelazny did it in a 1966 novel called 'The Dream Master.' My favorite element was the genetically modified for intelligence German Shepherd guide dog that would steal its owners self-driving car to run his own errands while she slept.
Zelazny was on quite a roll back then. 'Lord of Light' remains one of the greatest SF novels but will probably never get a proper mini-series as it deserves.
Posted by: epobirs at January 11, 2012 10:42 PM (a4g9j)
Posted by: Son of Liberty at January 11, 2012 10:45 PM (ZCq3c)
Posted by: chas at January 11, 2012 10:47 PM (xAq1C)
They are no more subject to telling others what heroes they were in the war than are other veterans. Some of them refuse to talk about it at all. But being cast as heroes in a bullshit George Lucas flick shouldn't happen to them. They "gave at the office" as it were.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 11, 2012 10:55 PM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: hftvj at January 11, 2012 10:58 PM (PiiND)
Hurricane? No. For the same reason 'Bowling for Columbine' should not have been nominated and awarded as a documentary. They were mostly works of fiction.
If Bob Dylan does a song about you being innocent, you aren't. It gets worse from there.
Posted by: epobirs at January 11, 2012 11:01 PM (a4g9j)
I've never understood why DiCaprio doesn't just get on top of the stupid crate, and then have Winslet lie on top of him. Sharing body heat as a bonus.
But then, since the movie realistically portrays the Titanic sinking in nearly a dead calm, I've never understood why the captain didn't have his many unemployed crew members start cobbling together makeshift life rafts from the enormous selection of expensive hardwoods about to get dragged to the bottom. Only would have had to stay afloat for a couple of hours - Smith knew exactly when the Carpathia would arrive.
Posted by: Disillusionist at January 11, 2012 11:04 PM (oySG3)
As depicted in the movie, the debris was barely keeping most of Kate Winslet out of the water. Just a little more weight would have greatly reduced her chance of holding out long enough for rescue. It wasn't a matter of there not being enough surface area for both of them.
Posted by: epobirs at January 11, 2012 11:52 PM (a4g9j)
Some try to "debunk" the claim they never lost a bomber they were escorting, but that was not their claim, it was shortened. They never lost a plane to enemy fighters - they were the fighter escorts, obviously they couldn't stop anti-aircraft fire or mechanical problems. Of course, by that time we had bombed all the factories and Germany had almost no fighters left, and saved them to defend the most important targets like Goering's porn collection.
They did serve with distinction and bravery and sometimes heroism, but their role was hardly critical, more of a PR thing by that time (1944). I knew a pilot, a legit Flying Ace who was sent home with five confirmed kills because he had flown too many combat missions, who trained them at Walterboro. SC, where the Memorial is now. He said they were brave enough, but awful pilots. He said they were rushed through the whole process to ensure they saw action, he considered it like handing a kid a machine gun and saying "Go kill Heinie."
There are some fantastic stories in their history, but most involve the training and post-training period.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 11, 2012 11:59 PM (VfmLu)
is hitting Netflix soon. Clara Bow is hawt!Posted by: gp at January 12, 2012 01:15 AM (FIQk5)
She really is. She was an amazing screen presence. After seeing her in "It" (which made her the It Girl), I was intrigued enough to read a bio of her. She made the transition to sound more successfully than most silent stars, but was waylaid by schizophrenia, an inherited condition. The early symptoms of schizophrenia may account for some of her erratic behavior in Hollywood, although accounts of her promiscuity seem to be exaggerated.
Re this new movie, I don't think Lucas wrote or directed it, so who knows, it might be good.
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Posted by: pipe fittings at January 12, 2012 07:06 AM (E4h7T)
a.) it reeks of a hollywood lecture about race, like we don't get enough of those. Nothing says "it's February" like a historical movie with an all black cast.
b.) it looks like that awful abortion of a movie Jerry Bruckheimer made about Pearl Harbor. That's one movie I wish I could "un-see." This looks similar.
c.) bad CGI. Go back to the movies of the '80s when special effects were done with real cameras, models, and sets. They look better than today's movies.
Of course, now that I know it's Lucas, that pretty much seals the deal. What? You think I've forgiven you for the Star Wars prequels and the Massacre of Indianna Jones? Not in this life.
Posted by: SamInVA at January 12, 2012 08:38 AM (rFiOs)
This entire Hollywood fable is just in time to boost the "unprecedented historical black accomplishment" meme that is designed to glorify the unprecedented historical black accomplishment-Chicago-Messiah in the WH.
It's official: Democrats are propaganda whores.
Posted by: The Media Sux at January 12, 2012 10:56 AM (lLeix)
Posted by: mike at January 12, 2012 11:34 AM (WNvlG)
One, that's where the oxygen that lets you breathe is coming from.
Two, that's where the microphone that lets me hear your is.
Posted by: McThag at January 12, 2012 12:33 PM (zElJI)
Posted by: chad at January 12, 2012 01:35 PM (kcdd5)
#531: Yea I think the P-38 Lighting is an awesome aircraft. I was at a park just outside of Austin that was right next a aircraft hanger for a nearby airport. Lo and behold this crew rolls out a P-38 from the hangar and runs up the engines to do some maintenance and tuning. They repeatedly ran the engines up and down to full throttle and the lope on the engine idle was sexy. One thing that you just don't get a sense of when watching a documentary is just how big the P-38 really is. Which makes more sense to me know when I hear the pilots makes comments that the P-38 just couldn't yank and bank in a dog fight.
Posted by: HeftyJo at January 12, 2012 03:49 PM (rfXgR)
Been a Titanic nut since I was a kid. Bought a stock certificate from IMM before anyone ever heard of James Cameron's 'Titanic'.
I HATE that movie. I love it because of the sets, and seeing the ship 'brought to life' but I hate it for the overly simplistic characters, the lies about real people who died that night, the factual inaccuracies (there were a lot), all so James f-ing Cameron can scream "I'm king of the world"! It was an event that changed maritime history, that marked the end of innocence just before the carnage of WWII; it wasn't something that should have been trivialized and made into a story about a gem and a love affair that wasn't believable.
On a personal note, I always wondered why no one lashed deck chairs and all sorts of other things into rafts.
As for good recent movies :
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy - bit obtuse, better editing could have made it easier to follow (I've read books about spycraft and I found it a tad jumpy at times). Great acting all around.
Sherlock Holmes - based on reviews, didn't expect to like this one. REALLY liked it. I (heart) RD, Jr., and he was brilliant. Might like it better than the first...
Tin Tin - I LOVED Tin Tin! Was fun, great CGI, without too cartoony a style, great voice acting... was terrific. We plan to see it again this weekend. =)
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