Ron "The Only Man Who Can Save America" Paul: Gender-Conflicted Sociopath and Traitor Bradley Manning Is A "Hero" and a "Patriot"

Bradley Manning gave all the sensitive intelligence he could to WikiLeaks, which of course outed it all, in stages. The last bit outing -- of the real names of our agents working in hostile countries, against their own governments or terrorist groups which have the favor of the government -- was supposedly an "accident," but that information was outed all the same.

People have been killed, obviously.

Because Bradley Manning was all butthurt or something.

Bradley Manning is a narcissistic, sociopathic coward and traitor with the blood of murder on his delicate little hands.

But that's not the Bradley Manning Ron Paul knows.

No, Ron Paul sees the "hero" and "patriot" in him.

Paul has called Manning, a crossdresser with acknowledged mental problems, a hero and patriot for stealing government secrets and providing them to WikiLeaks.

Manning, who served as an intelligence analyst in Iraq, is charged with one of the most spectacular and damaging leaks of classified information in this countrys history. The death penalty has been strangely ruled out in his case, but he could still face life in prison.

Admiral Mike Mullen, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the irresponsible posting of stolen classified documents by WikiLeaks puts lives at risk and gives adversaries valuable information.

The Ron Paul 2012 website shows a young Ron Paul in a military uniform and as someone who would pursue a pro-America foreign policy. It says, As an Air Force veteran, Ron Paul believes national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government.

It says nothing about the Congressmans support for accused Army traitor Bradley Manning.

However, speaking at a campaign rally, Paul said that while Manning may have technically broken the law against releasing classified information to WikiLeaks, he did so for the purpose of exposing the horrible things being carried out by the U.S. Government.

Referring to Mannings detention before trial, Paul said, Should he be locked up and imprisoned? Manning should be seen as a political hero and true patriot who reveals whats going on, Paul said.

The Bradley Manning Support Network published an article saying that Paul believes that Manning is a whistleblower and his actions are essential to the country.

Video below. Via this site, thanks to Jonathan Philbec's twitter feed.

It's all vintage hobgoblin, but go to 4:00 to hear Paul say that WikiLeaks is "technically" breaking the law, then praising an "American citizen" who gives information to WikiLeaks (Manning, he means) for "practicing civil disobedience," and calling him a "true patriot."

No seriously: Quick, let's nominate this guy. Before the Democrats nominate him right from under us.

To balance this out, let me include some praise of Ron Paul. From noted conservative military theorist Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Ace at 03:48 PM



Comments

1 Why yes, it is possible to nominate someone worse than the establishment candidate!

Are we really going to call this guy a serious candidate? Really?

Posted by: DarkLord for Prez! at December 20, 2011 03:50 PM (GBXon)

2 Ron Paul is a dick!


Posted by: McLovin at December 20, 2011 03:50 PM (j0IcY)

3 Ron Paul clearly doesn't understand the duties of the office he's currently seeking.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 20, 2011 03:51 PM (pLTLS)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 03:51 PM (8y9MW)

5 Oh also,

CC: Ann "I too would vote for him over Newt" Coulter

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 20, 2011 03:51 PM (pLTLS)

6 Ron Paul looks like one of those Illinois Nazis in the still shot from that youtube video.

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 03:52 PM (9v3G+)

7 Good night, Mr. Paul. It was interesting while it lasted. Please disappear into obscurity now.

Posted by: Sponge at December 20, 2011 03:52 PM (UK9cE)

8 Paul said that while Greg Gutfeld may have technically broken the law
against releasing classified information to the public from his pants, he did so for the
purpose of exposing the horrible things being carried out by his wang.

Posted by: The Q at December 20, 2011 03:53 PM (LnQhT)

9 Eff Ron Paul....crazyassbastard.

Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 03:53 PM (X6akg)

10 Alright IOWA, you have had you fun screwing with us putting this idiot in the lead. Real funny, haha that's a knee slapper.
Could you please get serious now?
Thanks,
robtr.

Posted by: robtr at December 20, 2011 03:54 PM (MtwBb)

11 brb updating throatpunching list
Preemptive to the Paulbots - go get fucked with Cheney's warcock.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 20, 2011 03:54 PM (VtjlW)

12 Manning, a crossdresser with acknowledged mental problems

Sounds like Ron Paul, minus the crossdressing. AFAIK.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2011 03:54 PM (jn3L7)

13 Are we really going to call this guy a serious candidate?

No. But the MFM will sure as heck try.
The main problem with Dr. Paul's support is that it requires people to put down the doobie and get off of mom's couch for several hours to show it on anything except a computer or phone poll. Actually going to voting locations is too hard, man.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 03:55 PM (8y9MW)

14 Ron Paul looks like one of those Illinois Nazis in the still shot from that youtube video.

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 03:52 PM (9v3G+)


I hate Illinois Nazis.....

Posted by: Jake Blues at December 20, 2011 03:55 PM (UK9cE)

15 Go to the actual Youtube video and check out all the Lefties praising Paul for this.

Paul is a friggin' nutjob.

I honestly don't know how he's allowed in the debates.

Posted by: Sgt. York at December 20, 2011 03:55 PM (H3Kr3)

16 Bradley Manning is a narcissistic, sociopathic coward and traitor with the blood of murder on his delicate little hands.

In a USA with true justice Manning would have already been executed by firing squad for treason.

In a USA with voters with a brain Ron Paul would be back at stormfront HQ and not in any kind of office, much less running for office.

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:55 PM (YdQQY)

17 But seriously, Fox News is in the tank for Romney

Except for Bill O'Reilly, who's in the tank for O'Reilly.

Posted by: The Q at December 20, 2011 03:56 PM (LnQhT)

18 But, the gorebull warming documents are divisive and mean and those responsible should be punished to the fullest extent of the made up law.

Posted by: Sponge at December 20, 2011 03:56 PM (UK9cE)

19
This guy is a nickel short of 10 cent.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 20, 2011 03:56 PM (a0LOT)

20 would be back at stormfront HQ and not in any kind of office, much less running for office.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:55 PM (YdQQY)
Yes, but remember he's just asking questions.

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 03:57 PM (9v3G+)

21 That kind of twisted logic from paul does not surprise me, but should totally disqualify him from any further participation in Republican Primaries and he should be thrown out of the Congress.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 03:57 PM (i6RpT)

22 Ron Paul sez: "The CIA runs everything!".

Thanks to "dsglop".

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 20, 2011 03:57 PM (9hSKh)

23 And I might add, someone should ask his son whether he agrees with his father.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (i6RpT)

24 Isn't he DONE yet.

I guess this proves there's more than 10% of Americans that are NUTCASES.

Posted by: Vote for me I'll get you stuff at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (xqpQL)

25 If Ron Paul did not exist, it would be necessary for us to invent him.

Posted by: The Committee to Elect Jeb Bush in 2016, K. Rove, Chairman at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (0K5Vv)

26 SiLVer DiMEs!!!! LOLOloLOLolo! I likE cheeSe. *fart* LolOl!!! I saW a Red buS todaY.

Posted by: Dr.Ron.Paul at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (gQLr2)

27 In the spirit of Christmas, I will not say what I think about soon-to-be-former Congressman Herr Doktor Ron Paul.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (5H6zj)

28 Sigh. It's too bad, I like the idea of a Ron Paul, someone committed to principals of America's founding. But I suppose somone so committed to principal is likely to be abberrant in other ways as well.

Posted by: Randy M at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (vI8R6)

29 Could you please get serious now?
First you must cross our palms with subsidies.

Posted by: Iowa at December 20, 2011 03:59 PM (ZKzrr)

30 This guy is a nickel short of 10 cent.

More like a buck short of two bits.

Posted by: DarkLord for Prez! at December 20, 2011 03:59 PM (GBXon)

31 Are we really going to call this guy a serious candidate?

For a lobotomy? Oh, yes.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2011 03:59 PM (FcR7P)

32 Anyone who votes for paul should immediately be put under 24 hours surveillance

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 03:59 PM (i6RpT)

33 Ron Paul for president !!

Posted by: I am Barack Obama and I paid for this message at December 20, 2011 03:59 PM (0K5Vv)

34 Has anyone announced their intent to run for soon-to-be-former Congressman Herr Doktor Ron Paul's seat?

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:00 PM (5H6zj)

35 He can't be serious. Bradley Manning is a worm...the worst kind, a traitorous worm.

Ron Paul can go screw himself....hard.

Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:00 PM (A98Xu)

36
The big loser in all this is Rand Paul.

Enjoy your term in the Senate, son.

Posted by: rosemary, parsley, soothsayer, and thyme at December 20, 2011 04:00 PM (sqkOB)

37 ...a narcissistic, sociopathic coward and traitor with the blood of murder on his delicate little hands.

Hey! Holder ran F&F, not me.

Posted by: barry o at December 20, 2011 04:00 PM (FcR7P)

38 What happened to the Directive of AoSHQ that he is to be called Doctor Professor Science?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2011 04:00 PM (a+UDD)

39 There is a strong case to be made that a Ron Paul Independendent run would pull more votes from Obama than from the GOP candidate. Certainly Paul would get the Truther vote, and there are way more Truthers on the Democrat side than on the Republican side.

Posted by: stuiec at December 20, 2011 04:01 PM (JttFU)

40 Imagine military discipline with this turd as Commander in Chief.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 20, 2011 04:01 PM (0P6R5)

41 More like a buck short of two bits.

Wow. That's like saying "a dozen bottles short of a six-pack".

Very nice.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 20, 2011 04:01 PM (bjRNS)

42 This whackadoodle nutjob should be run out on a rail. But folks would pull the lever for him over Newt....WTF....don't get me wrong I'm not a newt supporter but good grief

Posted by: kawfyy at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (VIm97)

43 I guess Ace is not out for Ron Paul.


Posted by: Buck Ofama at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (4sQwu)

44 Ron Paul reminds me of when Jack Nicholson broke down that door and his crazy split personality had a fight club in the basement where he thought the govt CIA guys who hired him were trying to kill him and had Nurse Ratched chase him and the big Indian guy. But all she really wanted was to create destruction and do the ol' in-out in-out.

Posted by: Mixed Up Movie Guy at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (JYheX)

45 The big loser in all this is Rand Paul.

I'm not sure about this. KY'ians seem to love him. Of course consider their alternative at the moment...

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (pLTLS)

46 I like the idea of a Ron Paul, someone committed to principals of America's founding.

Yeah, the problem is that Luap Nor isn't "someone committed to principals of America's founding." Luap Nor is crazy narcissist who loves to preach Constitutional Absolutism, but doesn't even really pretend to walk-the-walk.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (8y9MW)

47 All those cranks and loonies won't join the Ron Paul machine on their own you know, he has to work hard to get them signed on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (r4wIV)

48 I honestly don't know how he's allowed in the debates.

It's baffling. We're all for voter ID, but we allow Ron Paul on our stage.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2011 04:03 PM (FcR7P)

49 Lee Harvey Oswald may have 'technically' broken the law.

I hope Ron Paul's supporters think hard on this one.

They shouldn't want Ron Paul to be the icon of their movement. There is some good they want done, and Ron Paul is the last person they should want associated with it.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:03 PM (rQ/Ue)

50 "For a lobotomy? Oh, yes."

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

Nyuk, nyuk.


For a Lobotomy to be effective, one first must have a functioning cerebrum.

Posted by: Vote for me I'll get you stuff at December 20, 2011 04:03 PM (xqpQL)

51 There is one thing here to look forward too. The Iowa GOP fears that a Luap Nor win would discredit the whole Iowa caucus scam. Sounds like a most excellent outcome.
FUCK IOWA!

Posted by: Bob Saget at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (SDkq3)

52 Fun fact, on Twitter today, a certain conservative blogger named Ace of Spades basically admitted that Osama bin Laden was in "retirement" at the time that he was killed by US forces. It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.

Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (UM15z)

53 But... in defense of their "first!" status, Iowans keep boasting about how very seriously they take their role in as an early primary state.

Because, you know, nothing says "serious candidate" like Ron Paul and Michele Bachman. Or Huckabee. Or Picking HW Bush over Reagan.

Screw the Idiots Out Wandering Around- they should've been told to move their caucus to Super Tuesday (if not later) or else their delegates don't get counted.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (SY2Kh)

54 Isn't there a process to kick Ron Paul out of the Republican party?

And just let the little turd run as a third party candidate; he'll get the Nader votes.

Posted by: Seth at December 20, 2011 04:06 PM (DzX9o)

55 "It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.

Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (UM15z)"
First, not sure if sarcasm.Second, OBL mass murdered our people, so killing him was justice. Not perfect, but a hell of a big improvement over what he had before.I would have preferred we captured him, but Obama is too cowardly to wrestle with the problems this presents.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:06 PM (rQ/Ue)

56 Fun fact, on Twitter today, a certain conservative blogger named Ace of Spades basically admitted that Osama bin Laden was in "retirement" at the time that he was killed by US forces. It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.
Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (UM15z)
Oh right, well yeah. As long as Bin Laden said he was sorry let bygones be bygones right?
Are all of Paul's supporters as stupid as you are champ?

Posted by: robtr at December 20, 2011 04:06 PM (MtwBb)

57 >>>Fun fact, on Twitter today, a certain conservative blogger named Ace of Spades basically admitted that Osama bin Laden was in "retirement" at the time that he was killed by US forces. It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.

Oh dear, is that the best you've got?

Posted by: ace at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (nj1bB)

58 How ron paul became a dr or got this far baffles me

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (i6RpT)

59 Yeah, the problem is that Luap Nor isn't "someone committed to principals of America's founding."
Yes, hence the sigh.

Posted by: Randy M at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (vI8R6)

60 HA! It's always fun to see the Paulbots come out of the wood work when their candidate is mocked for having insane opinions.

And yes, screw IOWA.

Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (A98Xu)

61 Fun fact, on Twitter today, a certain conservative blogger named Ace of Spades basically admitted that Osama bin Laden was in "retirement" at the time that he was killed by US forces. It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.
-------------------------------------
The size of government and whether or not it is appropriate to kill those who are at war with you are two very different concepts.

Posted by: MJ at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (BKOsZ)

62 Ace....(do you)...have...a...[direct]...(fucking) quote in which (Paul)...actually says (what)...you (claim)...he...does...or just...[ransom note]-style...copypasta?

He's speaking in general terms and says that somebody who leaks "may be" a "patriot". You claim he calls Manning a patriot. You're full of shit.

But what am I saying. I'm trying to reason with a tiny fringe group of paranoid warmongering RINOs stuck in 1939 who see nazis under their beds.

Posted by: Cock Guy. So Much Cock at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (xx2Hb)

63 Oh, hi Mare. Fancy meeting you here.

Posted by: MJ at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (BKOsZ)

64 I truly believe that RP is a dem plant to fuck up the GOP primaries as much as possible. The decades of miseducating the young is now paying off. So many of the people who say they'll vote for this POS think he's an honest to goodness patriot.

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (lOVYc)

65 Hollowpoint, it is time to give Iowa all the respect she gives the rest of the country's primary's. Iowa thinks our primaries should be secondary to theirs, and it's time to respond by cutting down their delegate count.

I say pick a day... like May 5th or something. Every day before this day that the primary is held, deduct one delegate from the count. States can decide if going first is worth the cost.

It's their call.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (rQ/Ue)

66 It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.

It seems strange non-threats are in hiding.

Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:09 PM (X6akg)

67 Ron Paul is the only modern day Renaissance Man of Earmarks.

Posted by: Fritz at December 20, 2011 04:09 PM (/ZZCn)

68 52, if you aren't someone socking, see supra concerning what to do with yourself.
If it is sock, well played, sir/madam, well played.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 20, 2011 04:09 PM (VtjlW)

69 Over at Reason, they're explaining that conservatives hate Paul because of racism. I am not making this up.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 20, 2011 04:09 PM (tqwMN)

70 But what am I saying. I'm trying to reason with a tiny fringe group of paranoid warmongering RINOs stuck in 1939 who see nazis under their beds.
Posted by: Cock Guy. So Much Cock at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (xx2Hb)
Did you notice where ace included quotation marks dickweed? Do you know what they mean?
Didn't think so.

Posted by: robtr at December 20, 2011 04:09 PM (MtwBb)

71 B-but Ron Paul is teh One!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (Qxdfp)

72 Ohai.

Here they come, trying to defend Ron Paul's insane opinions.

Popcorn...stat!

Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (A98Xu)

73 Oh dear, is that the best you've got?







Posted by: ace at December 20, 2011 04:07 PM (nj1bB)


Bad think is, he was trying to be "funny" but had he used the American citizen terrorist douchebag that we killed with a drone, it would've been much more effective.

Still fucking dumb, but more truth than fiction.

Posted by: Sponge at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (UK9cE)

74 @66 Ace said he was in retirement. Doesn't sound like a threat to me. Of course he should be held accountable for his crimes, but all the info we have on the raid basically makes it sound like there was no serious attempt to capture him, which would in fact be the right thing to do if we wanted justice, as opposed to revenge.

Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (UM15z)

75 Oh. Goody. The Norberts are out in full force.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (8y9MW)

76 Oh great. .....Larry Sabato just told Cavuto that "there is still time for other candidates to get into the race". Then he went on to explain how that would work.
This would help Romney the most, wouldn't it.....if more candidates got in?

Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (HvKWW)

77 Ron Paul is such a badass that Chuck Norris wanted to be him when he was a kid.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 20, 2011 04:11 PM (Qxdfp)

78 "Yes, technically they're breaking a rule", he said.

Manning was serving his country under arms, and had to swear one or two high-powered oaths to put him into position to fuck his country over. A little more complicated than "technically breaking a rule".

Fuck all you Ron Paul shitheads, now and until the heat death of the universe.

Posted by: Mike James at December 20, 2011 04:11 PM (E5gnO)

79 This would help Romney the most, wouldn't it.....if more candidates got in?





Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (HvKWW)

How so?

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:12 PM (i6RpT)

80

BONG POST!!!!!

*gurglegurglegurglegurglegurgle

Posted by: MJ at December 20, 2011 04:12 PM (BKOsZ)

81 Ron Paul is a loon.

Anybody who supports him is a also a loon.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (qjUnn)

82 Sure. We haven't heard from that Maddow fellow ina while.

Posted by: Cicerokid at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (vhhBO)

83 Dearest Paulturds ---->

For You.....

Hugs Kisses,

Me

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (pLTLS)

84 Knock me over with a feather.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (q/kmn)

85 I say pick a day... like May 5th or something.
Every day before this day that the primary is held, deduct one delegate
from the count. States can decide if going first is worth the cost.It's their call.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (rQ/Ue)
Essentially, Iowa contributes zero delegates. Likewise NH and SC have proportional delegates. All that Iowa does is winnowing.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (73tyQ)

86 I'm trying like hell to parse RP's political philosophy. He acts and talks libertarian (like here on foreign policy) and yet he seems like a straight-up neo-confederate racist other times. Is it a schtick? Does he actually not get that these two things are not supposed to go together?

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (RD7QR)

87 Because Bradley Manning was all butthurt or something.


Ron "The Only Man Who Can Save America" Paul Jeremy

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (QMtmy)

88 Alright IOWA, you have had you fun screwing with us putting this idiot in the lead. Real funny, haha that's a knee slapper.Could you please get serious now?Thanks,robtr.Posted by: robtr at December 20, 2011 03:54 PM (MtwBb)

A part of me hopes that Iowa does go ahead and pick Paul. Just so we can finally dismiss IA's caucuses as a reliable indicator of well, anything. And so Dr-Scientist Ron Paul can finally get his media closeup - and then get exiled to third-party kookville where he belongs.

But that's the part of me that just wants to see the world burn too.

Posted by: Mtenloch at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (pAlYe)

89 This would help Romney the most, wouldn't it.....if more candidates got in?

If they did, yes. But Larry is wrong. Too many States' filing deadlines have passed, you couldn't get the necessary delegates unless you won every primary, and took near 100% in the proportional ones. I'm not even sure you could do it then.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (8y9MW)

90 but all the info we have on the raid basically makes it sound like
there was no serious attempt to capture him, which would in fact be the
right thing to do if we wanted justice, as opposed to revenge.
You can second-guess the SEAL team, I won't. And another thing, revenge is alright by me. Sometimes revenge is justice.

Posted by: angler at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (SwjAj)

91 Larry Sabato just told Cavuto that "there is still time for other candidates to get into the race".


Larry Sabato's running for POTUS?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (ZKzrr)

92

The goal of war is always to capture the enemy. Our troops are armed with nets, rope, and XXX porn to use as bait. Do I have this right?

Posted by: MJ at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (BKOsZ)

93 There are more Bradley Mannings out there.

i hate to say that. I have a very high opinion of those in uniform. But there are a few more bad apples. That is naturally going to happen. They will be weeded out as Manning was.

Ron Paul's comments encourage these bad apples. Whistle blowing can be important, but blowing national security to the internet? Not OK.

Ron Paul is in congress, so you'd think he would offer an alternative for true patriots blowing whistles (a confidential meeting with a committee). If what some soldier is seeing is bad enough to expose, they should be able to do this.

Manning wasn't even clear in what he was trying to expose. He just blasted everything he could find in order to get revenge against the military. The idea he's a hero is really misguided. Just blindly shoving your thumb in the eye of 'the man' is not heroism, especially if you're trusted with human life as anyone with a security clearance is.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (rQ/Ue)

94 Has anyone noticed more than a passing resemblance between Ron Paul and Timothy Leary?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (Qxdfp)

95 Knock me over with a feather.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (q/kmn)


I thought they used a bulldozer?

Posted by: Sponge at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (UK9cE)

96 i liked revenge in that circumstance.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:14 PM (h+qn8)

97 Just so we can finally dismiss IA's caucuses as a reliable indicator of well, anything.


It's like 2000 never happened around here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2011 04:14 PM (ZKzrr)

98 If Paul somehow wins the nomination I am voting for the SCOAMF. I refuse to vote for Paul and I want him to get demolished.

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at December 20, 2011 04:15 PM (YhZFe)

99 RonPaul, well at least You admit there was a bin Laden involved in the mass murder of american citizens doing nothing more nefarious than showing up to work.unlike many of your cohorts.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:15 PM (h+qn8)

100 79....How so?
By further diluting the not-Romney vote? .....Might help Ron Paul too, I guess. They both have a chunk of loyal supporters in the early primary states.
But then, Sabato talked about how the whole thing could very well end up at the convention for a final decision.

Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (HvKWW)

101 If Paul somehow wins the nomination I am voting for the SCOAMF. I refuse to vote for Paul and I want him to get demolished.

I can't do it. I can't vote for Obama.

I can stay home, however.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (8y9MW)

102 We already have a nasty, traitor-supporting weasel in the White House. So, why do we need Ron Paul?

Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (9XykO)

103 "Essentially, Iowa contributes zero delegates. Likewise NH and SC have proportional delegates. All that Iowa does is winnowing.


Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (73tyQ)"
It's not just Iowa, though. A lot of states are clamoring, and it's making a mess of things. I would like some kind of official system that allows later states to have some relevance.It would be fine if several early states got a say, but later states were relatively boosted and thus still pretty relevant.Ideally, we would just break the country up into regions and rotate which one goes first each election, but legally I see no way this is possible.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (rQ/Ue)

104 The problem is not only treacherous bastards like Manning, but also the all to prevalent PC culture in this Country that has infested the Military also.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (i6RpT)

105 69 Over at Reason, they're explaining that conservatives hate Paul because of racism. I am not making this up.
I post at an LSU forum, tigerdroppings, and the politics subforum is pretty much 95% Paultards, 3% leftists, and 2% run of the mill Republicans. If you have the audacity to question anything Paul says then you are worse than the Antichrist. I hate these people.

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at December 20, 2011 04:16 PM (YhZFe)

106 When can we stop pretending this assclown is a Republican?

Posted by: real joe at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (1c6lN)

107 It's hilarious to see the RP maggots squirming. I'm beginning to hate RP as much as the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (lOVYc)

108 ....as opposed to revenge.

Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (UM15z)
No....I'm good with revenge. I wouldn't care if he was offering the seals bacon to eat....blow him away.

Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (X6akg)

109 What happens if you feed Ron Paul after midnight?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (Qxdfp)

110 I guess this proves there's more than 10% of Americans that are NUTCASES.


Posted by: Vote for me I'll get you stuff at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (xqpQL)
Way more if you count delusional, mentally lazy to the point of retardation and those who will vote for anything shiny/new that the TV sticks in front of them, yes.I mean, after 3 years, over 40% still approve of what a wonder job the SCoaMF is doing. That should tell you all you need to know about the mental health of this nation.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (hcJkV)

111 It seems strange that a conservative supports a government big enough to assassinate non-threats.
You know what I've learned from my father, and my father-in-law, recently?
It is surprisingly easy to come out of retirement. I mean, you don't even haveto mail in a formor anything!

Posted by: reason at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (q/kmn)

112 if ron paul gets the nom , i will write in mickey mouse.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (h+qn8)

113 Ron Paul is in congress, so you'd think he would offer an alternative
for true patriots blowing whistles (a confidential meeting with a
committee). If what some soldier is seeing is bad enough to expose,
they should be able to do this.

It's been done before, in fact. Manning's objective was not pro-American, I'm afraid.

"Treason" is probably the right charge. He and Major Mujahadeen should get to share the main stage at a hangin'.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (bjRNS)

114 43 I guess Ace is not out for Ron Paul.

Posted by: Buck Ofama at December 20, 2011 04:02 PM (4sQwu)

Im starting to get the same feeling. There are some hints in his post that would lead one to believe that when push comes to shove, Ace just might not vote for Ron Paul.
Of course, if he really didnt harbor some fondness for him, Ace would attack him with the same intensity hes reserved for Sarah Palin. So lets just say for now that as far as Ron Paul is concerned, Ace is undecided.

Posted by: jwest at December 20, 2011 04:18 PM (8moZm)

115 Over at Reason, they're explaining that conservatives hate Paul because of racism. I am not making this up.

Huh? How would that work? We hate him because he's white? Or do they think we're all black? Do they think he's black? That doesn't even pass the "sounds not-bat-guano-insane" test.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:18 PM (8y9MW)

116 "with the blood of murder on his delicate little hands."

Is there any actual evidence that anyone has been killed because of these leaks?

Posted by: Count Orlock at December 20, 2011 04:18 PM (RurGt)

117 23
And I might add, someone should ask his son whether he agrees with his father.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (i6RpT)
--Hannity has on his radio show a few weeks ago - in the interview I heard, Rand (I'll send you a dollar so you can buy new name) wouldn't admit that he agreed with everything his father has said, but he did defend him ........as you would expect any son to defend his Dad.But, I would love to have a reporter ask him if he supports his Dad after this latest bat-shit crazy statement by Luap Nor.

Posted by: Racist, Right-Wing Terrorist...or Tea Party Member for Short at December 20, 2011 04:18 PM (fOPv7)

118 This is why no one calls themselves a Republican anymore. They really seem like a bunch of fucking retards.
I guess I'm what? A fiscal conservative who feels the need to align himself with some bearly human cro-magnum types. The problem is that they keep wanting to nominate the crazy witch doctor who likes to fling his own feces at the "shadow people."

Posted by: Max Power at December 20, 2011 04:19 PM (q177U)

119 I don't get it. The Democrat midget who believes in UFOs gets a trophy wife. Ours just has a TRO-level fixation on Jews and silver dimes. Does this seem fair to you guys? 'Cause it leaves me thinking we got short-changed.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 20, 2011 04:19 PM (Jdtsu)

120 Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (rQ/Ue)

I wouldn't push it back as far as May, but yeah- the excuse for having early states is supposedly to test organizational ability and retail campaigning.

The general election isn't held with some states voting before others, and isn't won or lost on retail campaigning. The ability to influence voters in IA, NH, or SC isn't a good test of how well they'd do in a national election.

The real reason these states are so desperate to be early is, of course, money.

This entire "early state" nonsense needs to stop- if that means alienating NH and IA by taking away their "firsties!" status, so be it. Especially with regards to IA, given how frequently they get it horribly, terribly wrong.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:19 PM (SY2Kh)

121 24 Isn't he DONE yet.I guess this proves there's more than 10% of Americans that are NUTCASES.
Posted by: Vote for me I'll get you stuff at December 20, 2011 03:58 PM (xqpQL)
25% of the country is retarded.

Posted by: South Park at December 20, 2011 04:19 PM (GULKT)

122 I thought they used a bulldozer?
They did.
But you see, now...because...because I'm...
*sigh*
You see, it'd be very easy NOW to knock...with a...you know, I really shouldn't have to explain this...
*facepalm*
You really are all morons here, aren't you?

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at December 20, 2011 04:19 PM (q/kmn)

123 I wonder if all those CIA moles in Lebanon were part of this leak. They're probably all dead now.

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:20 PM (wuv1c)

124 It is surprisingly easy to come out of retirement. I mean, you don't even haveto mail in a formor anything!

I'm thinking in UBL's case, the official designation was "inactive reserve".

Now it's "waiting on Vecna reserve".

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 20, 2011 04:20 PM (bjRNS)

125
Here is an equally idiotic person:

Wendy Sherman, undersecretary of state for political affairs at the
State Department, had some rather nice things to say about the reclusive
Kim Jong Il, the dictatorial leader of North Korea who died a few days
ago.She said "He was smart and a quick problem-solver," and that "[Kim Jong Il]is
also witty and humorous. Our overall impression was very different from
the way he was known to the outside world."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, self declared 4th best commentor ever at December 20, 2011 04:20 PM (JYheX)

126 first they ignore you (check)
then they laugh at you (oh hell yes check)
then they fight you (in the middle of checking)
then you win...

Posted by: flyonthewall at December 20, 2011 04:20 PM (aZ7lL)

127 And that gosh darn Palin woman was just too extreme for the party.

Posted by: Havedash at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (sFD5n)

128 But what am I saying. I'm trying to reason with a tiny fringe group of paranoid warmongering RINOs stuck in 1939 who see nazis under their beds.
Posted by: Cock Guy. So Much Cock at December 20, 2011 04:08 PM (xx2Hb)
Well at least we're not a tiny fringe group of paranoid lunatics stuck in 1939 who see nazis when they look in the mirror like Ron Paul and his supporters.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (GULKT)

129 Is there any actual evidence that anyone has been killed because of these leaks?

Yes. Give me a second to hunt up the link.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (bjRNS)

130 94 Has anyone noticed more than a passing resemblance between Ron Paul and Timothy Leary?
More like Pat Paulsen.

Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (HvKWW)

131 serious attempt to capture him, which would in fact be the right thing to do if we wanted justice,
Silly to argue with, but for the record: Justice for murderers is death, not capture.

Posted by: Randy M at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (vI8R6)

132 Here is an equally idiotic person:

Wendy Sherman, undersecretary of state for political affairs at the State Department, had some rather nice things to say about the reclusive Kim Jong Il, the dictatorial leader of North Korea who died a few days ago.

She said "He was smart and a quick problem-solver," and that "[Kim Jong Il] is also witty and humorous. Our overall impression was very different from the way he was known to the outside world."
Posted by: Guy Mohawk, self declared 4th best commentor ever at December 20, 2011 04:20 PM (JYheX)

I just can't believe I grew up in the same Country as these people?

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (i6RpT)

133 Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:10 PM (UM15z)

Oh, my! You are a stupid one.

There is about 3000 years of military history and precedent that says that trying to capture an enemy rather than kill him in battle is a tactical decision that is not governed by any moral or legal boundaries.

But understanding that would require the intellect of a tapeworm, and clearly you fall short.

Or you are a sock -- in which case, Huzzah!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (nEUpB)

134


Really?


REALLY?


The guy who STOLE and then leaked confidential documents naming covert operatives is a "hero" and "patriot"?????

I had been thinking that Paul was an alternative to Newt, and that he's nuts and bad on foreign policy, but he's not THAT bad.

Fuck all; how wrong I was.


Posted by: imp at December 20, 2011 04:22 PM (UaxA0)

135 This is why no one calls themselves a Republican anymore. They really seem like a bunch of fucking retards.

Why do you think we keep inviting him?

Posted by: The MFM at December 20, 2011 04:22 PM (FcR7P)

136 BTW, I think I never really expressed my true feelings toward Herman Cain, but this latest from him (via NRO) has inspired me:

As he watches his former competitors begin a two-week sprint to the Iowa
caucuses, Herman Cain is not ready to endorse a candidate. But he is
inching closer to a decision, telling NRO that he has ruled out two
contenders. I would definitely not endorse Ron Paul or Rick Perry, he
says. Its nothing personal, were just too far apart in terms of our
ideas.

Hey, Herb, read between the lines.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:22 PM (5H6zj)

137 Here we go:

Taliban Murders Afghan Elder, Thanks Wikileaks for Revealing "Spies"

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at December 20, 2011 04:23 PM (bjRNS)

138 One good plan I saw (I didn't think of it) is to sort the states by vote percentage in the previous Prez race. Utah and Oklahoma and Alaska go first. Vermont and Hawaii can wait. This rewards the states which have loyalty to GOP principles.

Unless the GOP's principles are all about sucking Iowa cock

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 20, 2011 04:23 PM (0P6R5)

139 "then you win..."

Keep dreaming. He wins IOWA all it will do is discredit the process...which needs discrediting.

Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:23 PM (A98Xu)

140 Imagine your worst nightmare. The Democrat and Republican nominees are Obama and Paul. Your options are 1) Vote for Obama, 2) vote for Paul, and 3) don't vote or vote third party. What do you do?

I'd probably vote for Ron "There's Nothing Wrong With the World Except For Israel and the US" Paul on the grounds that while he is crazy and would do trememndous damage to the country, he still would not be as bad as Obama.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 20, 2011 04:23 PM (Hx5uv)

141 Essentially, Iowa contributes zero delegates. Likewise NH and SC have proportional delegates. All that Iowa does is winnowing.

It's not the number of delegates that gives IA, NH and SC undue influence, it's "momentum".

And heck of a job they did with their shameless money grab called the IA Straw Poll "winnowing" out a legitimate candidate in favor of the two unelectable vanity "candidates" Bachmann and Paul.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (SY2Kh)

142 If RP doesn't get the nomination, we can all be sure that there'll be a third party come Nov 2012. RP is not a man of reason, he's a maker of chaos. He's a bitter, selfish little man. I'm not sure if this nation could handle four more years of the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (lOVYc)

143
I guess I'm what? A fiscal conservative who feels
the need to align himself with some bearly human cro-magnum types. The
problem is that they keep wanting to nominate the crazy witch doctor who
likes to fling his own feces at the "shadow people." Posted by: Max Power

No, you're a self-absorbed twat with what would be generously called willful Asperger's; generally angry at everyone that doesn't give a shit how smart you believe yourself to be. You are the Dunning Kruger effect in the flesh with a side order of warrantless ego.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (a+UDD)

144 @136 - Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of ... ideas?" Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they really had?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (8y9MW)

145 not voting for ron paul.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (h+qn8)

146 I just can't believe I grew up in the same Country as these people?

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:21 PM (i6RpT)
You didn't. Cambridge and Berkeley and Madison and the Upper West Side haven't been a part of America for years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (nEUpB)

147 Fine, hang Manning, then give him a hero's send off. Just call it the "Modified Rommel".

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 20, 2011 04:25 PM (jAqTK)

148 I'd probably vote for Ron "There's Nothing Wrong With the World Except For Israel and the US" Paul on the grounds that while he is crazy and would do trememndous damage to the country, he still would not be as bad as Obama.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 20, 2011 04:23 PM (Hx5uv)

Don't be too sure of that.

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2011 04:25 PM (lOVYc)

149 Come get me when he actually starts to offer real policy or plans for how he would run the country, and we'll start to roll out the frumpy trollops to claim he gave them GYN exams without gloves or something.
Until then, we've got better things to do thanvet the crazy Republican candidates as actually crazy.

Posted by: MFM at December 20, 2011 04:25 PM (F26eZ)

150 I used to like this guy and thought he had important things to say even when I didn't agree. Then I figured out what he was doing was ringing the cash register.
When he says crap like, "Bush and Cheney were giggling with glee when the towers got plowed!" he's playing to a select but determined crowd, and they send him a lot of money to say these things. Same shit here with Manning.He's dead to me.

Posted by: spongeworthy at December 20, 2011 04:26 PM (puy4B)

151 Left Coast = not part of the America *I* grew up in....

Posted by: MrObvious at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (2uovW)

152

bearly human cro-magnum types.

Thomas Magnum is not amused.

(there's so much wrong with that statement I don't even know how you manage to log on to a computer Max)

Posted by: imp at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (UaxA0)

153 Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they really had?

Ladies Night!!

Posted by: Herm! at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (FcR7P)

154
God the Paultards are delusional.

I will not vote for Ron Paul.
I would bet 100 dollars that if he were to win the primaries that another big name Republican would run 3rd party and get double Ron Paul's votes.

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (wuv1c)

155 3) don't vote or vote third party. What do you do?

Who's the third party candidate and what's their platform?


Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (ZKzrr)

156 Also, does anyone else think it's creepy that he has a picture of his own face on that podium

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:27 PM (wuv1c)

157
OK, so Ron Paul is dangerously insane on foriegn policy. Nothing new to see here, folks, move along...
The interesting question would be a comparison between Obama and a potential President Paul. Let's keep in mind that even Obama has found the necessity to compromise on his radical anti-American principles. Paul at leastisn't specificallyanti-American in his principles, at least, just dangerously naive. Would even Ron Paul be an improvement?
The more immediate question, though, is why some low-level grunt had access to all that intel in the first place. Seems like there's an aggegious flaw in the security system -due to adownright criminal negligence.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 20, 2011 04:28 PM (As94z)

158 The truly scary Paulians are the ones who, when confronted with Ron's obvious racism, then excuse it as "well he brings up some good points..."

These are the same idiots spamming Rick Perry's facebook wall (from a group calling itself confederate states of america navy somethingerother).
I really believed much of that fanatical seperatist crap died off in the early 90s, but Ron Paul draws all these delusional seperatist cretins out of the woodwork.

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:28 PM (9v3G+)

159 Wendy Sherman, undersecretary of state for political affairs at the
State Department, had some rather nice things to say about the reclusive
Kim Jong Il, the dictatorial leader of North Korea who died a few days
ago.



She said "He was smart and a quick problem-solver," and that "[Kim Jong
Il] is also witty and humorous. Our overall impression was very
different from the way he was known to the outside world."

Speaking of stupid shit our moral and intellectual superiors say and write, here is one Neil Clark, journalist:

No one questions that Havel, who went to prison twice, was a brave man
who had the courage to stand up for his views. Yet the question which
needs to be asked is whether his political campaigning made his country,
and the world, a better place. Havels anti-communist critique
contained little if any acknowledgement of the positive achievements of
the regimes of eastern Europe in the fields of employment, welfare
provision, education and womens rights. Or the fact that communism, for
all its faults, was still a system which put the economic needs of the
majority first.
This isn't denial, this is the Amazon,lthe Mississippi, the Rhine, the Danube and a bunch of other rivers all rolled into one.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (Hx5uv)

160 What do you do?

Won't happen, because that would make the Republicans the third party.

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (FcR7P)

161 Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of
... ideas?" Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they
really had?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (8y9MW)
Perry, at some point, unknowingly didn't kiss Cain's affirmative action ass the way that Cain thought it should be kissed? That'd be my guess.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (hcJkV)

162
Here are the basics for RON PAUL supporters:

1. War is about killing people
2. The military has a different judicial process
3. Outing spies and sources during war is treason
4. The punishment for treason is execution
5. You are not as smart as you think, by not believing 1-4.

Posted by: MJ at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (BKOsZ)

163


>>>These are the same idiots spamming Rick Perry's facebook wall (from a group calling itself confederate states of america navy somethingerother)

The South Will Rise Again!!
Don't forget to hit the shoeleather tip jar.

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (wuv1c)

164 If they did, yes. But Larry is wrong. Too many States' filing deadlines have passed, you couldn't get the necessary delegates unless you won every primary, and took near 100% in the proportional ones. I'm not even sure you could do it then.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:13 PM (8y9MW)
Here's a link that has many of the states filing deadlines listed. There are still a lot that have not passed. But the thing is that many of them do come in January. And that means you'd need a massive organizational effort to get on those ballots. And if you're not in it now, I doubt you have the manpower to accomplish it in that many states.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (GULKT)

165
Yeah? Well, here's your other choice:

Responding at a townhall to a question about Bradley Manning

"Uh - I'm not sufficentially aware of that specific case to give you an answer with regards to that specific case"

Mitt "Captain Inevitable" Romney 8/8/2011
http://goo.gl/c6HTQ

Feel better now?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (3wBRE)

166 I'm telling you, sucking co*k must be mighty damn tasty and awesome if being denied it leads to stealing and publishing top secret documents that might get people killed.

Posted by: The Drizzle at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (ysCLj)

167 I think Manning was just upset he could no longer use a 'silver dime' to buy a gallon of gas.. but if Paul gets elected... WATCH OUT!! Silver Dimes for everyone!

Posted by: What a Jerk at December 20, 2011 04:30 PM (bcmD0)

168 I use to say I despise Obama so much Ill even vote for Paul over him, now I despiseBOTH men so much i'll vote 3rd party and just go to the polls to kick Nelson out of the senate

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:30 PM (yAor6)

169 Can you imagine a country run by the political equivalent of a Zerohedge commenter?

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:30 PM (wuv1c)

170 Is there ANYONE with an IQ greater than room temperature and not on illegal drugs that STILL thinks this guy should be President of the United States? If so, what do you have against the US? Sheesh.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (EhYdw)

171 Why aren't we all threatening a third party run if Ron Paul gets the nom?

Posted by: elizabethe is all in for Perry at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (hCc/i)

172 144
@136 - Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of ... ideas?"

Well, I'm pretty sure Rick keeps his hands to himself in the office, so there's that.


I think what we're learning is that old "Herb" is about as conservative as Colin Powell, which is, not very.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (5H6zj)

173 Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of
... ideas?" Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they
really had?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (8y9MW)


Silly. Perry hunted at N----- Rock!!!!11!!1!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (UK9cE)

174 The South Will Rise Again!!
Don't forget to hit the shoeleather tip jar.
Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (wuv1c)
Don't tell them this, but judging from the electoral power of Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Texas, combined with its explosive economic growth, it already has.

Those types don't mean that though. They mean other things, along the lines of canine audio activators.

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (9v3G+)

175
Andi Sullivan, true conservative, endorsed RP.

Posted by: Mike at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (0hdwM)

176 @16: "In a USA with voters with a brain Ron Paul would be back at stormfront HQ and not in any kind of office, much less running for office."
Sorry, that one doesn't fall on the US as a whole - just the Texans in Paul's distict. They elected him.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 20, 2011 04:32 PM (jAqTK)

177 HMMMM!!!! ASS!!!!

Posted by: Sir Mix A Lot got SPRUNG! at December 20, 2011 04:32 PM (8ieXv)

178 Havels anti-communist critique
contained little if any acknowledgement of the positive achievements of
the regimes of eastern Europe in the fields of employment, welfare
provision, education and womens rights. Or the fact that communism, for
all its faults, was still a system which put the economic needs of the
majority first.

There are no words to describe the stupid contained in that statement.

That is a critical mass of stupid so large it is dangerously close to creating self-sustaining fusion. It boggles my mind that someone could be that stupid and still capable of speech, let alone using a computer. Stupid that pure, that concentrated, should be listed as a hazardous material, and the EPA should make sure it is removed from all human contact.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:32 PM (8y9MW)

179 The Democrats bounced Gravel from their 2008 primaries, why can't we do the same.

Posted by: Ben at December 20, 2011 04:32 PM (wuv1c)

180 Cause it leaves me thinking we got short-changed.

Short change you can believe in.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (Hx5uv)

181 136 BTW, I think I never really expressed my true feelings toward Herman Cain, but this latest from him (via NRO) has inspired me: As he watches his former competitors begin a two-week sprint to the Iowa caucuses, Herman Cain is not ready to endorse a candidate. But he is inching closer to a decision, telling NRO that he has ruled out two contenders. I would definitely not endorse Ron Paul or Rick Perry, he says. Its nothing personal, were just too far apart in terms of our ideas.Hey, Herb, read between the lines.
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:22 PM (5H6zj)
The dumbass should just get on with endorsing Romney. He'll probably be shocked when he gets nothing out of it because his endorsement does something in between "jack" and "shit" to Romney's numbers so it ends up being a useless endorsement.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (GULKT)

182 56 Posted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (UM15z)

Oh, the light's on!
Run away, little cockroach, run away!

Posted by: Jeremiad was a Bullfrog at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (Wqfrr)

183 Ha, MJ at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (BKOsZ)
, stop making so much sense!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (UEEex)

184 Didn't Manning have a transgendered girlfriend?

Does that make him gay?
Does that make him straight?
Was he only doing research?

Posted by: Mike at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (0hdwM)

185 Andi Sullivan, true conservative, endorsed RP.
Posted by: Mike at December 20, 2011 04:31 PM (0hdwM)
Tell Ron Paul Andi has "teh ghey"

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (9v3G+)

186 Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of ... ideas?" Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they really had?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (8y9MW)
Perry, at some point, unknowingly didn't kiss Cain's affirmative action ass the way that Cain thought it should be kissed? That'd be my guess.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (hcJkV)
thats a good question, I never understood what was up w/ Cain's bile hatred towards Perry
an ilinformed person would say it was the rock but he was out slamming Perry much before that

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:34 PM (yAor6)

187 No, you're a self-absorbed twat with what would be generously called willful Asperger's; generally angry at everyone that doesn't give a shit how smart you believe yourself to be. You are the Dunning Kruger effect in the flesh with a side order of warrantless ego.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (a+UDD)
Oh snap, that kinda hurt. In my defense I don't think I'm particulary smart.

Posted by: Max Power at December 20, 2011 04:34 PM (q177U)

188 We all know that Texas is one of the most conservative states in the nation.
And, Rick Perry has it easy being surrounded by all those conservatives.

You know -- Ron Paul, Sheila Jackson Lee ...

Posted by: jwb7605 at December 20, 2011 04:34 PM (+KHIt)

189 Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they really had?
Perry has a strict I-will-not-give-you-money-in-exchange-for-sex policy.

Posted by: reason at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (F26eZ)

190 Why aren't we all threatening a third party run if Ron Paul gets the nom?

Because there's zero chance of Ron Paul getting the nomination.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (SY2Kh)

191 Ron Paul will lose his support when the GOP starts supporting smaller government and fiscal responsibility.

The problem with much of today's Conservatism is that Conservatives are trying to preserve yesterdays Progressive ideas.

Posted by: That's Mr Hobbit to you at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (sbaXF)

192 Christina Hendricks/Esther Baxter in 2016.
Can we all at least agree on that?

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (9v3G+)

193 If whoever the hell Obama is can be precedent, why can't this looney shmuck?
Very shortly it's not gonna matter much anyway.
Somewhere near 50% would prolly vote for whoever won Dancing With The Stars or the latest lead in a graphic novel flick, and that's why we're about to reach terminal velocity or maybe critical mass.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (HBqDo)

194 Perry has a strict I-will-not-give-you-money-in-exchange-for-sex policy.
Rick doesn't need to pay for it.

Trust the moronettes on this.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (5H6zj)

195 The dumbass should just get on with endorsing Romney. He'll probably be shocked when he gets nothing out of it because his endorsement does something in between "jack" and "shit" to Romney's numbers so it ends up being a useless endorsement.
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:33 PM (GULKT)
I actually think he'll endorse Newt which will be just as pointless as it would if he endorsed Romney, if he does endorse and its b/w Romney or Perry he's def endorsing Mittens

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (yAor6)

196 The Left hates Vaclev Havel but they can't say it since he helped liberate eastern Europe. He spat on their collective and lived to tell about it--they loathed him for it.
Because they are moral trash.

Posted by: spongeworthy at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (puy4B)

197 And I want a freakin spell check on ace of spadesfor christmas!

Posted by: Max Power at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (q177U)

198 It's high time Rand Paul tricks Pops into going for a ride in the family station wagon and then dumps him on the doorstep of an "assisted living facility", Abe Simpson-style.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (uIz80)

199 Christina Hendricks/Esther Baxter in 2016.

I think there should be pictures. You know. So we can consider it fully.
If scissors are involved, so much the better.

You know. For research.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (8y9MW)

200 You are the Dunning Kruger effect in the flesh with a side order of warrantless ego.
Hold the quick-wit-fries!
You are a boob.

Posted by: reason at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (F26eZ)

201 In defense of Manning, he's not nearly as big a traitor as von Stauffenberg.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (2VCZA)

202 161 Where are he and Perry "too far apart in terms of ... ideas?" Can anyone tell me a significant policy difference they really had?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 20, 2011 04:24 PM (8y9MW)
Perry, at some point, unknowingly didn't kiss Cain's affirmative action ass the way that Cain thought it should be kissed? That'd be my guess.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:29 PM (hcJkV)
Oh and I know their major policy differences. Perry believes that he should be president. And Cain, just like when he was running for president, believes that Romney should be president.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (GULKT)

203 And I want a freakin spell check on ace of spadesfor christmas!

Posted by: Max Power at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (q177U)
Amen.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (hcJkV)

204 Posted by: Ace at 03:48 PMPosted by: RONPAUL at December 20, 2011 04:04 PM (UM15z)

WARNING: math on the blog.

4:04 - 3:48 = lemme see carry da 11!ty,
16 minutes - Ha - Beat that Biggie Smalls

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (ZZdzp)

205 heh, buzzion.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (5H6zj)

206 Has Lech Walesa, said anything about Havel?

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (h+qn8)

207 >>>Rick doesn't need to pay for it.
Sweetheart, very few men "need" to pay for it. What we pay for is for them to dress quietly and leave promptly.

Posted by: spongeworthy at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (puy4B)

208 It's high time Rand Paul tricks Pops into going for a ride in the family station wagon and then dumps him on the doorstep of an "assisted living facility", Abe Simpson-style.
Dad! You've gotta come help me! Mossad is running amok down at the Shady Acres Care Facility! Get your stealth-slippers on and let's go!

Posted by: Rand Paul at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (F26eZ)

209 194 .....Rick doesn't need to pay for it. Trust the moronettes on this.
Word.

Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (HvKWW)

210 Christina Hendricks/Esther Baxter in 2016.
Can we all at least agree on that?

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (9v3G+)





Christina Hendricks Right Twin/Christina Hendricks Left Twin in 2016

Ample Sweater Mischief For a Mischievous America!

Okay, maybe the slogan needs some work.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2011 04:39 PM (G+B5p)

211 Oh and I know their major policy differences. Perry believes that he should be president. And Cain, just like when he was running for president, believes that Romney should be president.
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:37 PM (GULKT)
ive made it clear I did not want Cain as the nominee but I defended him when the bimbo eruption happen, I remember some Romneybots (not all, JeffB was there to strike and tell us "see...back my guy!") defending him as well. I know wonder if it had to do w/ the fact Cain slurped up Romney good when asked about him.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:40 PM (yAor6)

212 Rick doesn't need to pay for it. Trust the moronettes on this.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:36 PM (5H6zj)
I'd actually pay him.

Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:40 PM (X6akg)

213 oops I now* not I know
*facepalm*

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:40 PM (yAor6)

214 ok wicki says:Merkel called Havel "a great European," while Wałęsa said he should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2011 04:40 PM (h+qn8)

215 What we pay for is for them to dress quietly and leave promptly.
Posted by: spongeworthy at December 20, 2011 04:38 PM (puy4B)
+1

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:41 PM (yAor6)

216 "thats a good question, I never understood what was up w/ Cain's bile hatred towards Perry"

You're missing the obvious, Perry appears to be a happily married man who wouldn't cheat on his wife.

Cain...not so much. I bet it ate at Cain that Perry was living the ideals Cain wanted to but didn't.

Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (A98Xu)

217 What we pay for is for them to dress quietly and leave promptly.
----
Well, you're missing out on the sammiches then.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (5H6zj)

218
Christina Hendricks has a bit part in Drive. And though it is a small role, she looks quite lovely.

Posted by: Mike at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (0hdwM)

219 Ron Paul is a retarded half-man, half goblin.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 20, 2011 04:43 PM (QcFbt)

220 Sweetheart, very few men "need" to pay for it. What we pay for is for them to dress quietly and leave promptly.
An upgrade seldom offered: shut up and never speak of it to anyone, ever.

Posted by: reason at December 20, 2011 04:44 PM (F26eZ)

221 Ron Paul is a retarded half-man, half goblin.

Oh, I think he's all goblin.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 20, 2011 04:44 PM (UEEex)

222 No....I'm good with revenge. I wouldn't care if he was offering the seals bacon to eat....blow him away.

Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:17 PM (X6akg)

I am with Tami... revenge on Osama is fine with me too.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at December 20, 2011 04:45 PM (qjUnn)

223 Cain...not so much. I bet it ate at Cain that Perry was living the ideals Cain wanted to but didn't.
Posted by: mare at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (A98Xu)
then Cain would be pissed w/ Romney and Hunstman as well
it's gotta be something else, something that eats at him...his accent?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:46 PM (yAor6)

224 Also, have I ever mentioned to the moronettes that I bear a striking resemblance to Governor Perry?
I mean, it's really somewhat uncanny.
I'm stopped all the time at the grocery store. "Oh, wow, sorry...I could have sworn you were Rick Perry..."

Posted by: reason, who bears a striking resemblance to Rick Perry, at December 20, 2011 04:46 PM (F26eZ)

225 I'm pretty sure "bring him back alive" wasn't in the SEALs orders that night.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 20, 2011 04:46 PM (UEEex)

226 217 What we pay for is for them to dress quietly and leave promptly.----Well, you're missing out on the sammiches then.
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (5H6zj)
A man walks into a shady restauraunt and on the sign it says "Cheese Sandwich $5" "Handjobs $10."
He walks up to the waitress and says "Excuse me miss, are you the one that gives the hand jobs?"
She says "Yes I am!"
"Well wash your hands and fix me a cheese sandwich!"

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 04:46 PM (GULKT)

227 Well, you're missing out on the sammiches then.
Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (5H6zj)

You're right. But please don't talk while you make them. I'll be watching football.

Posted by: Soona at December 20, 2011 04:46 PM (lOVYc)

228 Posted by: reason, who bears a striking resemblance to Rick Perry

Waist up or waist down?

Posted by: Y-not asks the critical questions at December 20, 2011 04:47 PM (5H6zj)

229 Okay, maybe the slogan needs some work.
Two puppies in every sweater!

Posted by: reason, who bears a striking resemblance to Rick Perry, at December 20, 2011 04:47 PM (F26eZ)

230 Christina Hendricks/Esther Baxter in 2016.
Can we all at least agree on that?

Posted by: CAC at December 20, 2011 04:35 PM (9v3G+)How about Christina Hendricks/Maria Thayer now. Revenge of the hawt gingers.

Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:47 PM (YdQQY)

231 Speaking of sammiches, I gotta go start dinner (chicken cacciatore). BRB.

Posted by: Y-not at December 20, 2011 04:49 PM (5H6zj)

232 Ron Paul is in congress, so you'd think he would offer an alternative
for true patriots blowing whistles (a confidential meeting with a
committee). If what some soldier is seeing is bad enough to expose,
they should be able to do this.

This is a great point. Why didn't Manning just go to somebody like Ron Paul?

Manning wasn't even clear in what
he was trying to expose. He just blasted everything he could find in
order to get revenge against the military.

Absolutely true. In fact, the only way you can see him as a hero is if you believe the military is always wrong and anything they do has to be blasted in the media.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2011 04:49 PM (73tyQ)

233 Yes, I know Ron Paul, and never did there live a kinder, more
generous man. He is an overflowing cup, filled with the very cream of
human goodness. In all the time I've known him he's never done anything
immoral....UNLESS MAYBE THE PRESCHOOLERS PROSTITUTE RING...and he's
never done anything illegal uh....UNLESS YOU COUNT ALL THE TIMES HE SOLD
DOPE DISGUISED AS A NUN...he's always been a good law abiding
citizen....AWWW GIMME A BREAK...of the United States and....SHUT UP SHUT UP
SHUT UP...a community conscious individual....PAAAUUUL!!!111!!! HE'S NOTHIN' BUT A
LOW DOWN, DOUBLE DEALING, BACKSTABBIN', LARCENOUS PERVERTED WORM.
HANGIN'S TOO GOOD FOR HIM! BURNIN'S TOO GOOD FOR HIM! HE SHOULD BE TORN
INTO ITSY BITSY PIECES AND BURIED ALIVE!

Posted by: Hanover Fist at December 20, 2011 04:50 PM (0tRzD)

234 Well, you're missing out on the sammiches then.
*sigh* ...I do miss those....

Posted by: Frank Dodd at December 20, 2011 04:50 PM (F26eZ)

235 Christina Hendricks has a bit part in Drive. And though it is a small role, she looks quite lovely.

Posted by: Mike at December 20, 2011 04:42 PM (0hdwM)




Lovely? Errrrr, for her look in that film I'd use another word, like "slatternly" or "hawt Waffle House waitress in 10 years".
Not that I'm complaining, mind you. My crotch stirred every time there was movement under that blouse.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2011 04:50 PM (G+B5p)

236 Ron Paul is from Texas....Rick Perry is from Texas...RP vs RP....one's a Doctor...the other is for tardisil. coincidence?

Posted by: torabora at December 20, 2011 04:51 PM (evslS)

237 Who the hell is Frank Dodd?

Posted by: Chris Dodd at December 20, 2011 04:51 PM (F26eZ)

238 Okay, maybe the slogan needs some work.
A cue in every pocket.

Posted by: reason at December 20, 2011 04:53 PM (F26eZ)

239 then Cain would be pissed w/ Romney and Hunstman as well

it's gotta be something else, something that eats at him...his accent?
Perry was the frontrunner before Cain's rise and fall. Someone no doubt told Cain that he had to go after Perry, who was standing in his way of selling more books gaining in the polls.
I suspect that Cain, being the bumbling egomaniac dimwit that he is, took it personally and held the grudge, even after Cain's self-imposed implosion. He just heard Perry = enemy, and couldn't let it go.

No, it doesn't make sense, but not much about Cain does.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:55 PM (SY2Kh)

240 Ah...A Ron Paul post. Always good for a chuckle.

Posted by: Bosk at December 20, 2011 04:56 PM (n2K+4)

241 Mr Paul,

If you're going for the OWS vote, they weren't really serious about looking at alternatives to Obama, not even Ralph Nader

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2011 04:59 PM (Y+DPZ)

242 Here is the video of bin Laden, doing more than "applauding 9/11" as Ron Paul claims, but actually bragging about engineering it.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 05:00 PM (9XykO)

243 No, it doesn't make sense, but not much about Cain does.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 20, 2011 04:55 PM (SY2Kh)
I think everything Cain did makes sense if you apply my theory that Cain wanted Romney to be the Republican Nominee. Remember how when Cain jumped up in the polls and he was "really going to go after Romney" in that Bloomberg debate? The extent of that was asking Romney a single softball question.
Just like his ending campaign speech and how he will give an endorsement and it will be to an "outsider." He'll justify that as a businessman he is an outsider to politics just like Romney is, so Romney is an outsider worth endorsing.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 05:01 PM (GULKT)

244 I wouldn't push it back as far as May, but yeah- the
excuse for having early states is supposedly to test organizational
ability and retail campaigning.The general election isn't held
with some states voting before others, and isn't won or lost on retail
campaigning. The ability to influence voters in IA, NH, or SC isn't a
good test of how well they'd do in a national election.

Look at the election this time: You have a bunch of people who have no reason to run, but if you have a large state start it off, the contest is over. Even after SC, we usually have 2 or 3 viable candidates.

If you're arguing that the current system doesn't produce viable candidates, how does that comport with history? R nominees have been historically milquetoast and middle-of-the-road.

But if you have a large state start it off, you'll have Presidential nominee Trump, somebody with a lot of money who can buy the first primary. Having small states go early allows good candidates without a fundraising apparatus to have the chance to ramp up their campaign.

The real reason these states are so desperate to be early is, of course, money.

Absolutely. In IA and NH it's an industry and residents get several candidate calls a day.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2011 05:01 PM (73tyQ)

245 Ace, an anonymous blogger and one of the less frequent contributors to the group blog ace.mu.nu, has endorsed the pro-illegal immigration candidate Rick Perry.

Ace, who readily admits to being a socially awkward introvert and frequently informs his readers of his bizarre peccadilloes, and who often describes his audience as "morons", confirms his support for Rick Perry in a blog post.

Republican strategists are not sure how this endorsement should be received by the majority of the country. Ace is well known for making vicious homosexual assaults on political opponents, and as such his endorsement comes at a particularly inopportune time for the struggling Perry candidacy.

Posted by: Talk about cock more at December 20, 2011 05:03 PM (gj4aA)

246 Yep, you neocons really do have your head up your asses when it comes to US foreign policy. Even your soldiers hate your foreign policy, they see the true costs of war, what it does to people to kill another person and watch your friends get blown apart. If you really believe that these wars are good and that someone exposing the secrets of these wars is bad (even though exposing these things can often lead to a change in people views of the war and loss of support), then do us all a favor and enlist, practice what you endorse, be true to your beliefs. What manning released were the horrors of war and if some died as a result it's sad but in the grand scheme of things 10's of thousands of people have died in these conflicts and more will die until you start to embrace a new policy and support your troops, and the majority are sending cash to Ron! PS have fun with your NDAA!

Posted by: Travis at December 20, 2011 05:03 PM (RT2ac)

247 I assume Bradley Manning has been feeding Ron Paul key intel on the Coming Race War !!!111!! that the good Dr. has been warning us of for 20 years.

In fact, probably the only reason white folks (true patriots all) currently aren't being ethnically cleansed in a reverse Sherman's March to the Upper Midwest is due to patriot Manning's leaking some of the key planning documents to Dr. Paul who has thwarted the plans of the dark and dusky hordes.

I assume the Manning-Paul patriot brigade has also disrupted some of the funding the swarthy hordes are
getting from the Jewish and Papist pay-masters.

Save us Dr. Paul, you're our only hope!!!111!!

Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 20, 2011 05:04 PM (QcFbt)

248 We already have a nasty, racist, anti-Jew, economically ignorant, lunatic ,traitor-supporting weasel in the White House. So, why do we need Ron Paul?

Added a few for ya.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 05:04 PM (ZZdzp)

249 Well then.

Time to change my voting preference from ABO to ABOOP (Anbody But Obama Or Paul)

Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 05:04 PM (s7mIC)

250 Oooo looks like the Paulnut dog whistle went out.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2011 05:05 PM (GULKT)

251 I heartily approve Ace and others squashing this guy like a bug.
This is a huge election and we shouldn't have to spent one extra ounce of effort or money on this old psychotic after Iowa.

Posted by: jjshaka at December 20, 2011 05:06 PM (DA4+U)

252 Someone needs to tell Paul that should he run third party, his son's political career will be toast.
That may be the only thing that would get through his knuckle head.

Posted by: kdny at December 20, 2011 05:07 PM (4vhzd)

253 What manning released were the horrors of war and if some died as a result it's sad but in the grand scheme of things

Ah, an explanation of the Paulestinian military policy.

It's omelets all the way down.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 20, 2011 05:12 PM (73tyQ)

254 Dr. Paul was the only one brave enough to warn us about the biotracking devices installed in all those commemorative state quarters the Fed has been trying to foist off on us for so many years.

He also revealed in his newsletters how the global supply of carrots has been cornered by the Israel lobby. Everybody else stood by and watched while we fed our children Jew carrots. And they knew the whole time. The whole time!!!

Then there's the whole thing about the Pope and laundry detergent. All I'll say is Tide can kiss my white Protestant ass!


Posted by: ConcernedPatriot at December 20, 2011 05:14 PM (QcFbt)

255 The more immediate question, though, is why some low-level grunt had
access to all that intel in the first place. Seems like there's an
aggegious flaw in the security system -due to adownright criminal
negligence.

He was a comms clerk. Had to see everything to move? it.
Obviously there's some tightening up to do, which is probably moving in right after the barn door. No burners or USB for one.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 05:15 PM (ZZdzp)

256 I'd like to see random order of clumped by ad market states (might as well conserve money) spread evenly over an 6 > n > ~10 month window. Straight up id-checked Republican only votes - no caucii sp?

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 05:18 PM (ZZdzp)

257 RP won't be the nominee. NH will finish that.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 05:21 PM (ZZdzp)

258 Hahaha...Cue the tidal wave of crazy. Ready...Go!

Posted by: Bosk at December 20, 2011 05:24 PM (n2K+4)

259 I just did a computation. Check my math.

According to a preliminary search, I find that there's 701 Million ounces of Gold in Ft. Knox.

So, let's calculate what an ounce of Gold would be worth, if we were to revert to Ron Paul's Gold Standard.

Let's assume, for the sake of this discussion, there was only a Trillion Dollars in circulation.

If you divide the number of ounces of Gold, by the theoretical Trillion Dollars, Gold would be worth <drum roll>

$0.0007 per ounce.

So, unless Ron Paul can pull a shit-load of Gold out of his ass, it would appear we're better off having the Money Supply tied to Production.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 05:27 PM (9XykO)

260 @254 Concerned Patriot:

I don't care who you are, that's some funny s*it.

Posted by: unknown lurker at December 20, 2011 05:27 PM (Onw8c)

261 Whoops. Sock off.

Posted by: Swiss Guard at December 20, 2011 05:29 PM (Onw8c)

262 So, unless Ron Paul can pull a shit-load of jew Gold and silver dimes out of his ass, it would appear we're better off having the Money Supply tied to Production.
Fixed.

Posted by: Bosk at December 20, 2011 05:30 PM (n2K+4)

263 Travis,

"If you really believe that these wars are good and that someone
exposing the secrets of these wars is bad (even though exposing these
things can often lead to a change in people views of the war and loss of
support), then do us all a favor and enlist, practice what you endorse,
be true to your beliefs."

I did. I still believe these wars, while not "good,"needed winning. And Bradley Manning is a fucking traitor who deserves the death penalty.

Just curious, did you serve, or is it only your opponents who have to?

Posted by: JPS at December 20, 2011 05:34 PM (1ulFZ)

264 But I'm going to do back-of-the-envelope calculations on the gold in Fort Knox to prove that we shouldn't do anything because it's hard.

I also support Medicare and Social Security, because we can't make old people eat dog food and resort to voodoo priests for medical care.

I'm a patriot.

Posted by: I don't know anything about money at December 20, 2011 05:38 PM (gj4aA)

265 Ron might be nuts but at least he knows who is the biggest enemy to freedom is and it is not always ALQ. It is big government and everything a big government does. From picking sides in foreign lands to even needed secrets to protect. No government sould be big enough to have to keep secrets. Only bad thing can come from that type of government.

Posted by: Tjexcite at December 20, 2011 05:46 PM (sk1Ym)

266 "No government sould be big enough to have to keep secrets."

Thank God you didn't have control over the US Government during WWII.

Look, it would be wonderful if you were right. But the fact is that the world will come here and kill us if we don't protect ourselves. We have to have a military and an advanced foreign policy and some secrets are part of that deal.

Just the way it is.

And you're right that Ron might be nuts. Idiot claims he couldn't even run his stupid little newsletter.

Posted by: Dustin at December 20, 2011 05:57 PM (rQ/Ue)

267 "People have been killed, obviously."

If it's obvious then please provide documentation.

Posted by: Patco13 at December 20, 2011 06:03 PM (ZFxi4)

268 Look, the hard fact of the matter is that everybody in the world wants the US dead. They hate our freedoms, and they hate our leadership, and they are jealous of our ice cream. Rather than build themselves up, they would rather tear us down so that we can all live in stick huts and bash animals with rocks.

That is a fact. If you argue with it you are an idiot.

The only way we can defend against the entire rest of the world is to go and attack them first. If you know that somebody is going to kill you and rape your children, you kill them first. That is just good sense.

Anybody who doesn't support killing everybody else is complicit in raping your children. That's just basic logic.

Posted by: The world will come here and kill us at December 20, 2011 06:12 PM (gj4aA)

269 Ron might be nuts but at least he knows who is the biggest enemy to freedom is and it is not always ALQ. It is big government
Yup.
Dude really is nuts. Very painful to watch sometimes. Very old you know, maybe a bit senile. Not really with the times anymore. He's beholden to some very odd interests. He's retiring next year anyway and he'll be gone no matter what.
Maybe that's why all you people feel it so important to scream that he must be destroyed and we want nothing to do with him, because you know he's going away anyway and just fancy patting yourself on the back and pretending to take credit for it.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 20, 2011 06:15 PM (TLNYf)

270 At first when I read the blog post I was prepared to comment and denounce Paul's position as I certainly wouldn't agree with him on this. But then I actually watched the video. I ran some searches to find the original source material. And, as usual, Paul's words are taken out of context. Wildly out of context. He didn't speak specifically about this Manning turd at all but about the principle of whistleblower protection. While in the military (still am as reservist) I've seen a number of things that were frankly criminal, both among the ranks of US military personel and defense constractors, mostly dealing with money.We have a Whistleblower Act that is meant to protect people in such situations, but it really only applies to contractors and contract fraud. There is a valid point to be made that much of what actually goes on overseas involving our military or state department is classified and never sees the light of day. And much of it, were it to see the light, would not be supported by the public and would put things in a very different context.

Take Libya, you honestly think our motive was to benevolently free Libyans of a 40-year tyrant? A guy we were shaking hands with the year before? Genocide is going on in Sudan and we don't give a rats ass about that but for some reason this tyrant that's been there for decades warrants attention. Please, someone is being bought off with some political capital, a whole bunch of people probably. Clearly what's going on there is about the oil, whether we wanted it or the French wanted it, someone is going to make a big profit from that, financed by the US taxpayer. Now if someone in a confidential position had access to documents that proved the truth about the motives behind that operation, I think it's absolutely moral to release that information. And as a matter of law, something along the lines of the Whistleblower Act should protect them. Obviously this is difficult, when does something constitute "treason" vs "whistleblowing"? By definition all of our founding fathers were traitors.

Posted by: Andrew at December 20, 2011 06:28 PM (HS3dy)

271 An American citizen reveals that members in our Government are breaking many laws.

It is traditional practice not to arrest "Whistle-blowers" otherwise, no one can "Blow the Whistle" when necessary. This is good and proper Accounting/Accountability practice.

As far as releasing the names of our Spies, that is the fault of wikileaks, and has nothing to do with the concept at hand of our own Government poising itself to take advantage by not adhering to it's own laws.

And the many responders who talk about putting people under surveillance and taking away more rights, only furthers our point and cause, that the system is broken, and that the United States is facing "Do-or-Die" on whether we because a Facist Dictatorship, or instead, continue to promote the values and underlining principles of "Liberty, and Justice for All."

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273 Ron Paul is a hero!

Also, migraines are caused by kosher pickles. Is there nothing the Israel lobby doesn't control! First the money supply, now the pickle supply!

Thank god for Ron Paul!

Posted by: ConcernedPatriot at December 20, 2011 06:36 PM (QcFbt)

274 My brain hurts!

Posted by: Paultard2000 at December 20, 2011 06:36 PM (QcFbt)

275 Dustin 93
Ron Paul is in congress, so you'd think he would offer an alternative
for true patriots blowing whistles (a confidential meeting with a
committee).

Immunity.

The CIA destroyed evidence. The administration declined to do anything about that. "Maybe" for revealing the corruption going on in government, a whistle blower is a true political hero and should be offered immunity.

Posted by: Lesser of two weevils pie in the sky at December 20, 2011 06:42 PM (lpWVn)

276 Well, I'm not officially done with Ron Paul. I was pretty done before, what with all the blame-America crap that I don't need to hear from anyone, much lessa GOP candidate, but now it's for reals.
I nominate Dr. Paul for chairman of the Code Pink Republicans.

Posted by: Dirt McGirt at December 20, 2011 06:42 PM (lHn6+)

277 If you jump the shark fast enough, do you actually go back in time to before you were the guy who jumped the shark?

Posted by: Blacksmith8✡ at December 20, 2011 07:00 PM (Q1qy3)

278 Does Paul know Manning is gay?
I've heard he hates fags.

Posted by: DRayRaven at December 20, 2011 07:12 PM (4kYSc)

279 I'm so glad Paul likes to talk so much. Now that the spotlight's on him, he'll hang himself with all the rope he's got.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 20, 2011 07:12 PM (KL49F)

280 'Ron "The Only Man Who Can Save America" Paul'...As my mom said to me the other day after the last debate: Yeah, yeah, they're all going to save the world and crap big turds.

Posted by: halodoc at December 20, 2011 07:21 PM (gLiPk)

281 Any IT "patriots" with the Ron Paul campaign want to show their patriotism by sending out his entire e-mail history?

Or would that somehow be bad? I mean leaking information that isn't meant to be disseminated to the public for a "greater truth" is good; right?

So lets see the e-mail dump from the Ron Paul whistleblower.

Pardon me if I don't hold my breath waiting for Ron Paul to praise any whistle-blowers that give information he'd rather the public not have.

Posted by: gekkobear at December 20, 2011 07:32 PM (trIHQ)

282 This guy once accused George HW Bush of using the CIA to import and distribute cocaine...I'm sure that was true. Paul continues to be what he always has been, a libertarian masquerading as a Republican. He like John McCain, made a career out of skewering Republican Presidents. As well, since he is the perenniel Presidential candidate who loses every single primary, one might have to ask why he is running? Pathological need for attention? Stocking up millions in the campaign chest to be used in, shall we say, other ways...Don't think he's a thief but I'm way tired of hearing this old gasbag. He is and always willbe a splinter candidate who attracts single digit percentages of voters...Iowa, if he wins, will be the highlight of his $hitty career as a politician...Take him home Texas, please!

Posted by: Don't hate the playa hate the game at December 20, 2011 07:45 PM (1GlXg)

283 Ron Paul---treason's freind.

Posted by: Occam's Tool at December 20, 2011 08:22 PM (OcQfO)

284 Ron Paul is a Crotchety Old Clusterfuck Kook

(cock) see what I did there...

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 20, 2011 08:54 PM (zgwWv)

285 Ron Paul is to a Credible Candidacy as AGW is to Science

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 20, 2011 08:56 PM (zgwWv)

286 Ron Paul Campaign Slogan:

End the war on drugs so the electorate can get high and I make sense!

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 20, 2011 08:57 PM (zgwWv)

287 I'm pretty sure Manning wasn't blowing a whistle...

Just sayin'

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at December 20, 2011 09:00 PM (zgwWv)

288 "Hero" and a "Patriot" how do you define it?

Posted by: Botox at December 20, 2011 09:05 PM (6NrSU)

289
Hahahahaha!!!!

Things are so desperate for Rick Perry that his lackey's are stuck finding ways to attack Ron Paul. OMG that is hilarious. We really don't need any negative press on Ron Paul, we know enough, but it really shows how threatened Perry must be when the HQ turns it's anti-11th amendment on the Republican because he is polling higher than Perry.

Posted by: doug at December 20, 2011 10:23 PM (gUGI6)

290 Like I have always maintained. One mongrel dog party. The GOP can't nominate one decent person because they don't have one. Then we see nothing but whine. Why don't you try bringing back zombie McCain?

Posted by: Zombie Hunter Thompson at December 21, 2011 01:34 AM (GOG1H)

291 Interrupting the 2 minute hate for Ron Paul for a second, prominent DADT activist Dan Choi was arrested at Manning's hearing. He was there to express support. Wasn't the repeal supported here as a conservative position?

Posted by: White RB at December 21, 2011 02:31 AM (LrLv1)

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I'm English and I didn't serve... My friends have and they served the country well, but they are fighting a war based on a lie, they know it and it hurts them all the more when they loose they're friends. We were told that Iraq could strike us in 45 mins with wmd's, that they were training terrorists etc and now after all they loss of life we find out that it was all a lie. Exactly the same as the gulf of Tonkin, 64,000 of your countrymen died there based on a lie. Who is accountable? No one. Iran will be the same. Ron Paul understands that, your troops understand that and you guys don't listen to them, you turn on your 42' and let the msm tell you how you feel about the lie and how the next threat is so much more credible.
Sites like this annoy me because chicken hawks don't understand what the true costs of war are and that by endorsing them makes them tough, far tougher people are returning from Iraq only to find themselves putting a gun to their own head to remove the memories of war. Imagine doing something so terrible that you can't live with the memory of what you've done, far more of our troops have died that way than in conflict... And that was all that manning and wiki leaked wanted to do, to shine a light on these horrors, do next time we are lied to maybe we can make a better choice, and maybe give these chicken hawks something to think about when they start talking tough about war!
I would defend my country IF attacked, but I'm not going to attack another country just because some corrupt asshole wants to make a buck...

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