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"Mitt" Romney Flip-Flops On His Own Name UPDATE: Also Flips On Amnesty
Mitt's inability to keep a story straight is pathological at this point.
CNN moderator Wolf Blitzer opened the debate by asking candidates to introduce themselves. "Here's an example of what I'm looking for: ‘I'm Wolf Blitzer and yes, that's my real name.'" Romney couldn't help himself in going for a quick laugh. "I'm Mitt Romney and yes, Wolf, that's also my first name," he said to dead silence from the audience. That wasn't the worst of it: Romney's real first name is Willard — Mitt is his middle name.We're really going to nominate this guy? I thought the whole birther thing is nonsense from start to finish but I'm going to need to see Willard's/Mitt's original long form birth certificate now. Jen Rubin emails to say, "Willard. Mitt. I don't care. He just so gosh darn dreamy and moderate!" Story link via Greg Pollowitz. Added: Ok, so plenty of people think having a little fun with serial flip-flopper
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Didn't he kill tons of people in New York City with his Army of Intelligent Rats?
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:01 AM (010Nv)
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I'm Wolf Blitzer and yes, I'm a tremendously pretentious douchebag. I'm so sick of these worthless debates. What a waste of time. Good thing I haven't watched a single one.
Posted by: chazmartel at November 23, 2011 11:03 AM (wlSqE)
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I want to nominate my naval lint for the presidency, Willy can be his VP
Posted by: Bob at November 23, 2011 11:04 AM (CYVcM)
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I think I saw a documentary about him and his rat Ben.
Ben was like the Obama Bin Laudanum of rat terrorists. He got his own documentary I think. Willard got his own as well - probably because of the terrifying spectacle of a Massachusetts governor murdering old folks with mind-controlled rat soldiers.
I have a suspicion he'll kill us if we don't vote for him or give him pellets.
I recommend pellets. I'm cautious with supernatural politicians.
Ben was like the Obama Bin Laudanum of rat terrorists. He got his own documentary I think. Willard got his own as well - probably because of the terrifying spectacle of a Massachusetts governor murdering old folks with mind-controlled rat soldiers.
I have a suspicion he'll kill us if we don't vote for him or give him pellets.
I recommend pellets. I'm cautious with supernatural politicians.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:04 AM (010Nv)
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Mitts a b*tch. It rhymes. Coincidence? I think not
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 23, 2011 11:04 AM (ZDEMd)
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We're really going to nominate this guy?
Not if my vote has anything to do with it. Which it probably won't...
Not if my vote has anything to do with it. Which it probably won't...
Posted by: alexthedude at November 23, 2011 11:04 AM (0+B+X)
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Didn't he kill tons of people in New York City with his Army of Intelligent Rats?
Along those lines, ever meet anyone named "Damien" who was born *after* The Omen came out?
I have. The guy I knew said it was a family name, but he went by it rather than another name. He was a really strange dude, and I wonder how much of that was from the raft of shit he must've caught as a kid.
Along those lines, ever meet anyone named "Damien" who was born *after* The Omen came out?
I have. The guy I knew said it was a family name, but he went by it rather than another name. He was a really strange dude, and I wonder how much of that was from the raft of shit he must've caught as a kid.
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 23, 2011 11:05 AM (p7SSh)
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Jen Rubin wants to be one of Mitt's plural wives when polygamy is made legal.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 23, 2011 11:05 AM (kqqGm)
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Fuck it. From here on out, I am calling this douchebag Willard.
Posted by: alexthedude at November 23, 2011 11:05 AM (0+B+X)
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This is idiotic.
This is fucking idiotic and both Drew and the original author should be embarrassed for mentioning it.
This is idiotic.
This is fucking idiotic and both Drew and the original author should be embarrassed for mentioning it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:05 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:06 AM (sqkOB)
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So, your problem is that he stinks at standup? I don't see your point.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:06 AM (YXmuI)
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And you know who this... aw f•ck it, even I can carry water on this one.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at November 23, 2011 11:06 AM (kqqGm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:06 AM (sqkOB)
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Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:06 AM (sqkOB)
You really don't ever seem happy here.
The internet is a big place. I invite you to explore other corners of it.
You really don't ever seem happy here.
The internet is a big place. I invite you to explore other corners of it.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:07 AM (dw7rB)
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But if this post is serious...
this is picayune bullshit. Fucking Idiot party.
Au Contraire. There is nothing picayune about Hyper Intelligent Mind-Controlled Homocidal Rat Soldier Swarms.
But if this post is serious...
this is picayune bullshit. Fucking Idiot party.
Au Contraire. There is nothing picayune about Hyper Intelligent Mind-Controlled Homocidal Rat Soldier Swarms.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:08 AM (010Nv)
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More noteworthy than this non-story is the fact that some set of parents, somewhere, named their baby boy Willard Mitt.
Posted by: Lady in Black: still voting for Perry (He has the best hair.) at November 23, 2011 11:09 AM (ycuSb)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:09 AM (Xm1aB)
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1 Didn't he kill tons of people in New York City with his Army of Intelligent Rats?
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:01 AM (010Nv)
I still remember being traumatized as a kid by the TV commercial for that movie, of a nurse screaming after she looks down to see hungry rats gnawing at her foot.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:01 AM (010Nv)
I still remember being traumatized as a kid by the TV commercial for that movie, of a nurse screaming after she looks down to see hungry rats gnawing at her foot.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 23, 2011 11:09 AM (niZvt)
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I'm a Perry man. Have been since he announced. Of course my support for him has become much like my support for the Washington Redskins -- exasperation mixed with chagrin -- but I still support him.
That said...how is this an issue? Romney botched a funny. He's tired of debates and, frankly, so am I. When is the first primary? First week in January? Stop the debates and bring it on so we can focus on making the SCOAMF one and done.
That said...how is this an issue? Romney botched a funny. He's tired of debates and, frankly, so am I. When is the first primary? First week in January? Stop the debates and bring it on so we can focus on making the SCOAMF one and done.
Posted by: joncelli, confirmed leg and ass man at November 23, 2011 11:10 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:10 AM (Xm1aB)
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Come on, I know tons of people who's "first" name is technically their middle name. Or even a nickname. Typically, they've preferred and gone by the alternate ever since they were a kid.
He was trying to make a little joke about, yeah, Mitt is kinda a weird first name. He was following Wolf Blitzer's similar (and better delivered) joke.
This is a nothing burger.
If your official name is Rumpwell Jet Smithson, but from the age of 8 you've gone by Jet or even RJ -- are you some untrustworthy liar for saying Jet or RJ is your first name?
Jesus.
He was trying to make a little joke about, yeah, Mitt is kinda a weird first name. He was following Wolf Blitzer's similar (and better delivered) joke.
This is a nothing burger.
If your official name is Rumpwell Jet Smithson, but from the age of 8 you've gone by Jet or even RJ -- are you some untrustworthy liar for saying Jet or RJ is your first name?
Jesus.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (QcFbt)
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Are you going to call out Santorum for saying Africa is a country? That's pretty much on the same level.
Posted by: Embittered Redleg at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (QBYUv)
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Are we really going to base our choice for nominee on wether Romney chooses to use "Willard" or "Mitt" as his first name?
If he goes thru life using "Mitt" as his first name, then by golly, it's his first name. Jeesh.
If he goes thru life using "Mitt" as his first name, then by golly, it's his first name. Jeesh.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (niZvt)
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The Mitt hate continues. This is a nothing story. Fuck yourselves and go suck Newt's rancid balls.
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (9zzk+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (sqkOB)
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Gingrich has never been caught sending rodent minions to do his bidding.
Ungulates, sure. But no rodents.
Ungulates, sure. But no rodents.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (010Nv)
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Hey, if Richard Perry can have a 53 second brain fart then Willard M. Romney can make a joke that gets no laughs.
And they can both be mocked for it. Politics is a contact sport.
And they can both be mocked for it. Politics is a contact sport.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 23, 2011 11:11 AM (kqqGm)
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Tangentially related from Insty: a recent PPP poll shows that Obama could lose PA to Romney, fundamentally reshaping the electoral map.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:12 AM (YXmuI)
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Did anyone of them claim their name wasWolf Blitzer? I probably would've.
Either that, or "I, state your name..."
Either that, or "I, state your name..."
Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 23, 2011 11:12 AM (zgHLA)
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If he goes thru life using "Mitt" as his first name, then by golly, it's his first name. Jeesh.
Exactly. Romney probably won't even answer to "Willard" it's been so long since he's used it.
If he goes thru life using "Mitt" as his first name, then by golly, it's his first name. Jeesh.
Exactly. Romney probably won't even answer to "Willard" it's been so long since he's used it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:13 AM (sqkOB)
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It has been rumored, however, that Huntsman has a semi-tractor trailer rig filled to the brim with angry possums.
I forsee a shift to the right for Huntsman. That, or he's just got a issue with collecting possums.
I forsee a shift to the right for Huntsman. That, or he's just got a issue with collecting possums.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:13 AM (010Nv)
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Overall, my sense of the crowd at the debate lat night was that there was a serious sense of humor deficiency.
Not that Mitt's joke was funny, but...
And is this post posited as a serious reason to not support Romney?
Still waiting on an answer to that one.
Overall, my sense of the crowd at the debate lat night was that there was a serious sense of humor deficiency.
Not that Mitt's joke was funny, but...
And is this post posited as a serious reason to not support Romney?
Still waiting on an answer to that one.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:14 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:14 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2011 11:14 AM (JYheX)
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Why are people pouring on Mitt? He's done the best in the debates. OK, you sociopaths are now on the newt train, cause you can seem to make up your fricking minds. Newt is a scumbag lobbyist now. He's flipped at least 4 times in the past 6 months alone.
Posted by: cvb at November 23, 2011 11:14 AM (HRFxR)
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Rick Perry and Ron Paul are interchangeable. Initials wise.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 23, 2011 11:15 AM (JYheX)
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I think it is just another reminder that only elitist NE type fucks have names like Mitt, Bunny, Binky and gag-inducing shit like that. Guys I knew in college saddled with names like that couldn't run away from them fast enough--except the real assholes.
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 23, 2011 11:16 AM (6H6FZ)
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And my 403(b) takes another dive to the mat.
Posted by: joncelli, reluctant Perry supporter at November 23, 2011 11:16 AM (RD7QR)
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Funnier still was Caincrying Blitzer.
Posted by: Perrybot at November 23, 2011 11:16 AM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:17 AM (sqkOB)
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Good lord, so the f#ck what? He goes by Mitt. His name is Mitt. My father-in-law's name is Bob. He's Bob to everyone. His wife, his colleagues, everyone. He's introduced himself as Bob for 80 some odd years. His birth certif says Frederick Robert. So BFD to this whole bit.
Posted by: scottythrust at November 23, 2011 11:17 AM (VTeUD)
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Mitt's not my first choice, but if he wins, I'm voting for him in the general election. Because the alternative (in the general) will be much, much worse.
Posted by: Mike at November 23, 2011 11:17 AM (NH9Y5)
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Do I think this is a reason not to vote for Mitt? Of course not.
Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5 minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight? Yeah.
If anyone else did this, it wouldn't even be a thing. With Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone about any and everything.
Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5 minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight? Yeah.
If anyone else did this, it wouldn't even be a thing. With Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone about any and everything.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (dw7rB)
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Deep as a mirror.
Why does he always look like he's relieving himself at the debates when somebody else is talking? I mean, just look at that smile. Aaahhhhh.
I don't hate Mitt. I don't like Mitt. I'm completely indifferent to Mitt, and would vote for him over zerO. I'd also eat cold chow mein if there was nothing else and I was very hungry.
Why does he always look like he's relieving himself at the debates when somebody else is talking? I mean, just look at that smile. Aaahhhhh.
I don't hate Mitt. I don't like Mitt. I'm completely indifferent to Mitt, and would vote for him over zerO. I'd also eat cold chow mein if there was nothing else and I was very hungry.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (Qxdfp)
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He has the best hair.......He is the clear Winner! And he is the most moderate.....that aslo makes Willard the clear winner!
Romney 2012 or die!
Romney 2012 or die!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (sqkOB)
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Romneybots - as likable and pleasantas their candidate...
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 11:19 AM (/TSnh)
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You know, if Willard would promise to have his rat armies drive out the illegal aliens, he'd have my vote.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 11:19 AM (VtjlW)
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Maybe Wolf should buy a real name so he wouldn't have that problem.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 23, 2011 11:19 AM (Qxdfp)
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Equating Mitt with Rat Boy is uncool. It elevates Mittens to an undeserved level of respectability.
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 23, 2011 11:19 AM (SDkq3)
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.... ok ... so if you are going to claim that he is a flip flopper because he jokes his first name is Mitt rather than Willard ...
... yeah, now I think you are just inventing shit to not want to nominate him.
You have a number of realistic choices, and you have some completely unelectable choices. You seem to prefer the latter.
Do not forget that the mission is to get SCOAMF the hell out of office. Which one of these jokers can do that?
Cain? Not anymore. Perry? Not a snowballs chance in hell. The 3 crazies (Bachmann, Santorum, Paul)? No fucking way. Huntsman? Who?
Your viable candidates are Newt and Mitt. Stop inventing fucking reasons not to deal with it.
The one I wanted isn't in (Palin), and the one I wanted to like has shown that I shouldn't support him (Cain). Perry was a non starter, can't appeal to anything but a minute fraction of the base, never mind independents.
So, again ... do you want to get SCOAMF out of office, or give him another 4 years in order that you can take a faux-moral/ideological high ground? And if you are going to invent fucking reasons not to vote for one of our choices .... damn ... we are in fucking trouble.
Some of them don't have a chance, or a clue. That much is obvious. Supporting them is Quixotic. Not supporting our best efforts is moronic.
... yeah, now I think you are just inventing shit to not want to nominate him.
You have a number of realistic choices, and you have some completely unelectable choices. You seem to prefer the latter.
Do not forget that the mission is to get SCOAMF the hell out of office. Which one of these jokers can do that?
Cain? Not anymore. Perry? Not a snowballs chance in hell. The 3 crazies (Bachmann, Santorum, Paul)? No fucking way. Huntsman? Who?
Your viable candidates are Newt and Mitt. Stop inventing fucking reasons not to deal with it.
The one I wanted isn't in (Palin), and the one I wanted to like has shown that I shouldn't support him (Cain). Perry was a non starter, can't appeal to anything but a minute fraction of the base, never mind independents.
So, again ... do you want to get SCOAMF out of office, or give him another 4 years in order that you can take a faux-moral/ideological high ground? And if you are going to invent fucking reasons not to vote for one of our choices .... damn ... we are in fucking trouble.
Some of them don't have a chance, or a clue. That much is obvious. Supporting them is Quixotic. Not supporting our best efforts is moronic.
Posted by: John Galt at November 23, 2011 11:19 AM (9NQ6I)
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@44
Dude, seems you've eaten an early helping of the acid-laced stuffing.
For the love of God, there are many, many things to jump on Willard about, but this?
Really?
Dude, seems you've eaten an early helping of the acid-laced stuffing.
For the love of God, there are many, many things to jump on Willard about, but this?
Really?
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:20 AM (Xm1aB)
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O/T for the sidebar;
via Gateway Pundit
IT WAS ALL A STUNT… #Occupy Loons Play Kissie-Kissie With Obama After Heeckling Him
via Gateway Pundit
IT WAS ALL A STUNT… #Occupy Loons Play Kissie-Kissie With Obama After Heeckling Him
Posted by: kbdabear at November 23, 2011 11:20 AM (Y+DPZ)
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Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:22 AM (8y9MW)
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Drew teaming up with the Left-ish New York Daily News for a real hammer blow to Romney's campaign.
Devastating, perhaps even a Falcon Punch.
The internet is a big place. I invite you to explore other corners of it.
I like the way cobloggers like Drew and rdbrewerinvite others to leave Ace's blog. Commenters who've been around longer than they have are politely invited to depart the host's blog for finding fault with their dishonest or pettyposts.
Nice.
Devastating, perhaps even a Falcon Punch.
The internet is a big place. I invite you to explore other corners of it.
I like the way cobloggers like Drew and rdbrewerinvite others to leave Ace's blog. Commenters who've been around longer than they have are politely invited to depart the host's blog for finding fault with their dishonest or pettyposts.
Nice.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:23 AM (puy4B)
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Brother Mitt's problem, IMHO, is that in the past he projected himself as AJ Squared Away, and now he's decided to use self-deprecating humor. Should have started it in the last election cycle.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 23, 2011 11:23 AM (kqqGm)
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C'mon, Willard was riffin' on "Wolf," baby!
His sense of humor might be as dry and tasteless as a Shredded Wheat biscuit, but what do you expect from a guy who has only had one smoke and drink in his lifetime?
His sense of humor might be as dry and tasteless as a Shredded Wheat biscuit, but what do you expect from a guy who has only had one smoke and drink in his lifetime?
Posted by: Fritz at November 23, 2011 11:23 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:23 AM (Xm1aB)
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I have a very odd name. I've spent more time than I care to admit spelling it and correcting its pronunciation to disbelieving correspondents.
If I have to go through this, then so does Mitt, and if he won't, well then, priorities. NO VOTE FOR YOU, WILLARD!
If I have to go through this, then so does Mitt, and if he won't, well then, priorities. NO VOTE FOR YOU, WILLARD!
Posted by: pep the purist at November 23, 2011 11:24 AM (YXmuI)
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The Redskins should pick up Kyle Orton. Because, hey, Rex Grossman and John, uh, what's his name?
Posted by: joncelli, reluctant Perry supporter at November 23, 2011 11:24 AM (RD7QR)
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Wow, the Romney fans are really, really sensitive.
Like hypersensitive - akin to a 16 year old girl being told her feet are goddamned huge.
Or like how you can feel everrrry single whisker on each individual mind-controlled rat that is covering your body as they rip the flesh from your bones.
Like, really really sensitive. Almost like they can't take a fucking joke.
Like hypersensitive - akin to a 16 year old girl being told her feet are goddamned huge.
Or like how you can feel everrrry single whisker on each individual mind-controlled rat that is covering your body as they rip the flesh from your bones.
Like, really really sensitive. Almost like they can't take a fucking joke.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:24 AM (010Nv)
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With Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone about any and everything.
That makes no sense. What is he trying to be to whom by using "Mitt" as his name? And it would only be a "flip-flop" if he had been using "Willard" all his life, and now suddenly switched to "Mitt".
Please post fifteen high-res Bucs cheerleader pics as penance.
That makes no sense. What is he trying to be to whom by using "Mitt" as his name? And it would only be a "flip-flop" if he had been using "Willard" all his life, and now suddenly switched to "Mitt".
Please post fifteen high-res Bucs cheerleader pics as penance.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 23, 2011 11:24 AM (N+nDK)
Posted by: pep the purist at November 23, 2011 11:25 AM (YXmuI)
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@52
I agree!
All candidates should be completely ignored right now except for Newt and Romney!
Any of them running to the media to create controversy so they can stay in the debates should be shouted down!
Let these two battle it out for the Nod, and then force them to pick a running mate that meets "The Approval," with the threat of lack of reinforcements during the general....and let's go take Obama down to ChinaTown!
I agree!
All candidates should be completely ignored right now except for Newt and Romney!
Any of them running to the media to create controversy so they can stay in the debates should be shouted down!
Let these two battle it out for the Nod, and then force them to pick a running mate that meets "The Approval," with the threat of lack of reinforcements during the general....and let's go take Obama down to ChinaTown!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 11:25 AM (JMsOK)
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He goes by "Mitt" so that is de facto, if not de jure, his first name.
Take a deep breath, partisans.
Take a deep breath, partisans.
Posted by: Glaucon at November 23, 2011 11:26 AM (mP9Rx)
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Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:23 AM (puy4B)
First, I've seen Ace make the same offer to soothsayer before. But thanks for trying.
Second, I've been around here a lot longer than that asshole.
First, I've seen Ace make the same offer to soothsayer before. But thanks for trying.
Second, I've been around here a lot longer than that asshole.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:26 AM (dw7rB)
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Yeah, either this post is a bad joke, or just kinda dickish.
Hey, candidate I don't like hates his own old-fashioned first name so much that's he's gone by his middle name his whole life! And he's so stupid that after a lifetime of usage, he now thinks it really is his first name! Ha-ha!
Also, Rick Perry has a thick West Texas accent! Ha, loser!
Newt Gingrich has a weird name. First name sounds like ... a newt or something. Last name sounds like the Grinch. Can't trust man like that, amirite?
And Santorum? How 'bout Sanitarium? Amirite?
And I'd like to Bachmann Overdrive the crazy Fargo lady if you know what I mean. Like in sexy way, right? With the sexy and the whisky.
Herman Cain. What kinda name is Herman? Is he a Munster or a Pee-Wee. Herman Can't more likely, amirite?
Ron Paul is clearly the only normal one on stage. Yes, he has two first names. But they are both normal names.
I think that's what America is looking for right now. A man with a normal name.
(paid for by ronpaul11!!11!! for galactic overlord)
Hey, candidate I don't like hates his own old-fashioned first name so much that's he's gone by his middle name his whole life! And he's so stupid that after a lifetime of usage, he now thinks it really is his first name! Ha-ha!
Also, Rick Perry has a thick West Texas accent! Ha, loser!
Newt Gingrich has a weird name. First name sounds like ... a newt or something. Last name sounds like the Grinch. Can't trust man like that, amirite?
And Santorum? How 'bout Sanitarium? Amirite?
And I'd like to Bachmann Overdrive the crazy Fargo lady if you know what I mean. Like in sexy way, right? With the sexy and the whisky.
Herman Cain. What kinda name is Herman? Is he a Munster or a Pee-Wee. Herman Can't more likely, amirite?
Ron Paul is clearly the only normal one on stage. Yes, he has two first names. But they are both normal names.
I think that's what America is looking for right now. A man with a normal name.
(paid for by ronpaul11!!11!! for galactic overlord)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 11:26 AM (QcFbt)
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Added: Ok, so plenty of people think having a little fun with serial flip-flopper Willard Mitt is off limits. How about comparing this quote to him on the subject last night? Is that ok?
Gee isn't that almost exactly what Newt was saying last night? Except Newt didn't want them to be able to get citizenship like Mittens did.
Gee isn't that almost exactly what Newt was saying last night? Except Newt didn't want them to be able to get citizenship like Mittens did.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 11:27 AM (GULKT)
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Okay, insofar as this has a point, it seems to be that Mitt Romney doesn't even know what his first name is, or is such a pathological liar he thinks people would care that he goes by his middle name (or a nickname, or whatever it is).
That, or he tried to tell a joke and it fell really, really flat.
Given that I wasn't planning to vote for Romney anyway, I don't see it as a big deal, and I can't see where any Romney supporters would either- they already know he's a pathological liar, and they don't seem to care, so even if it wasn't just a failed joke, it's still just par for the course.
That, or he tried to tell a joke and it fell really, really flat.
Given that I wasn't planning to vote for Romney anyway, I don't see it as a big deal, and I can't see where any Romney supporters would either- they already know he's a pathological liar, and they don't seem to care, so even if it wasn't just a failed joke, it's still just par for the course.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:27 AM (8y9MW)
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If he was good on at least 4 of the 6 major areas I would vote for a guy named Willard. Too bad he was bad on all 6 issues based on his RECORD.
Posted by: Vic at November 23, 2011 11:28 AM (YdQQY)
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I like the way cobloggers like Drew and rdbrewerinvite others to leave
Ace's blog. Commenters who've been around longer than they have...
I know, right. Poor Ace.
I like the way cobloggers like Drew and rdbrewerinvite others to leave
Ace's blog. Commenters who've been around longer than they have...
I know, right. Poor Ace.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:28 AM (sqkOB)
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Something tells me old Willard has a few rats in his pocket.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 11:28 AM (OlN4e)
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Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:22 AM
Mic check!
Obama is ...
a Stuttering Clustfuck ...
of a ...
Miserable Failure !
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:22 AM
Mic check!
Obama is ...
a Stuttering Clustfuck ...
of a ...
Miserable Failure !
Posted by: Moron Mic Check at November 23, 2011 11:28 AM (Y+DPZ)
75
Should have read the comments. The rat thing has already been beaten to death.
Did I mention that Mitt sucks?
Did I mention that Mitt sucks?
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 11:29 AM (OlN4e)
76
Oh for fucks sake, this is a funny, tongue in cheekpost. Would you please stop having meltdowns? You start tolook like a bunch ofAndy Sullivan clones.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 11:29 AM (/TSnh)
77
I was only a puppet.
Posted by: Grover at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (l3CeU)
78
I'm starting to see all the candidates as potential mates when the world has ended and we have to repopulate the earth. Here goes:
1. Mitt- good looking kids, but they will want to be popular
2. Cain- average offspring, average intelligence
3. Gingrich- eh looking kids, but they'll be smart and smart asses
4. Paul- intelligent enough kids, but they will be waiting for aliens to arrive and take them to Planet X
5. Perry- kids will be average, but will want to party a lot
6. All the Others- will produce children that will want to run for student council, but will lose.
1. Mitt- good looking kids, but they will want to be popular
2. Cain- average offspring, average intelligence
3. Gingrich- eh looking kids, but they'll be smart and smart asses
4. Paul- intelligent enough kids, but they will be waiting for aliens to arrive and take them to Planet X
5. Perry- kids will be average, but will want to party a lot
6. All the Others- will produce children that will want to run for student council, but will lose.
Posted by: shibumi at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (z63Tr)
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I've seen a lot of crazy back-and-forth between commenters on reasons to support a candidate or to oppose a candidate.
I haven't seen anything though as singularly stupid as this post.
I've seen a lot of crazy back-and-forth between commenters on reasons to support a candidate or to oppose a candidate.
I haven't seen anything though as singularly stupid as this post.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (Xm1aB)
80
Yeah I agree, this is a total "meh" article.
We get it, Drew, you don't like Mitt.
Next time I'm sure you'll criticize him for his poor choice of ties.
We get it, Drew, you don't like Mitt.
Next time I'm sure you'll criticize him for his poor choice of ties.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (s7mIC)
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One good thing about Romney - he looks like a superhero's main government contact.
Like Commissioner Gordon.
So he's got that "I know Batman and Batman can kick your ass. That's plausible deniability there, so don't screw with me" kinda thing going on.
Like Commissioner Gordon.
So he's got that "I know Batman and Batman can kick your ass. That's plausible deniability there, so don't screw with me" kinda thing going on.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (010Nv)
82
I think I've found a toenail clipping of Ronald Reagan that I can use for cloning.
If I'm successful, the first thing he'll do is pound the shit out of his own son
If I'm successful, the first thing he'll do is pound the shit out of his own son
Posted by: Professor Frink at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (Y+DPZ)
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Sooth, notice that I used their full names (Oh, excuse me, James Richard Perry; can I get a Mulligan?).
Again, Romney's problem is that self-deprecating humor works if you've used it for some time (See Bush, George Walker), not when you've spent most of your adult life screwed down tighter than a drum.
But it's OK; when a candidate you don't like says/does something dumb-shit, you can mock him/her here also. I'm sure we'll all get a good laugh.
Again, Romney's problem is that self-deprecating humor works if you've used it for some time (See Bush, George Walker), not when you've spent most of your adult life screwed down tighter than a drum.
But it's OK; when a candidate you don't like says/does something dumb-shit, you can mock him/her here also. I'm sure we'll all get a good laugh.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (kqqGm)
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@76
Except is isn't really tongue-in-cheek as the author of this silly post has explained in the comments.
Except is isn't really tongue-in-cheek as the author of this silly post has explained in the comments.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:31 AM (Xm1aB)
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Mitt's a real winner...all the way...!!!...wheeeeeeee!!!
Posted by: Corky the Retard at November 23, 2011 11:31 AM (YYHT+)
86
Blitz!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans oZfic at November 23, 2011 11:32 AM (yAor6)
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Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 11:29 AM (/TSnh)
One of the keys to comedy is being responsible for making sure your audience "gets it." I'm not slamming Drew here, but, in this post at least, he failed at that.
When I read it, it seemed serious- not like a tongue-in-cheek joke. If it is a joke, well, then, it's a joke. Just poorly executed.
One of the keys to comedy is being responsible for making sure your audience "gets it." I'm not slamming Drew here, but, in this post at least, he failed at that.
When I read it, it seemed serious- not like a tongue-in-cheek joke. If it is a joke, well, then, it's a joke. Just poorly executed.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:32 AM (8y9MW)
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@70
I can accept you not going for Romney...it is completely understandable. But if your not a Newt supporter now......then I'm really confused.
If you are one of these guy hanging on the Perry, becuase to be quite frank, Perry may get he Nod, but he will never beat Obama. That makes your Romney bashing really, really confusing.
I can accept you not going for Romney...it is completely understandable. But if your not a Newt supporter now......then I'm really confused.
If you are one of these guy hanging on the Perry, becuase to be quite frank, Perry may get he Nod, but he will never beat Obama. That makes your Romney bashing really, really confusing.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 11:32 AM (JMsOK)
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Keep twisting the knife Drew I think you got a shot at Cob Logger of the Year.
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 23, 2011 11:32 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (Xm1aB)
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Lighten up, all you Franceses. Drew's obviously just kidding around about this being some kind of black mark on Witt/Millard.
i.e. "...I'm going to need to see Willard's/Mitt's original long form birth certificate now." ---DrewM.
i.e. "...I'm going to need to see Willard's/Mitt's original long form birth certificate now." ---DrewM.
Posted by: jd at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (wa3LG)
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You know what's weird?
Harrison Ford named his eldest two sons after the movies "Ben" and "Willard."
On purpose. And his first wife let him.
Harrison Ford named his eldest two sons after the movies "Ben" and "Willard."
On purpose. And his first wife let him.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (SB0V2)
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I think I'll market a new product and get rich. It'll be a panty-untwister.
The market in this thread alone is huge.
The market in this thread alone is huge.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (010Nv)
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45 Why does he always look like he's relieving himself at the debates when somebody else is talking? I mean, just look at that smile. Aaahhhhh._________
Man, I sooooo did not need that image. I'll probably be giggling through the next few debates.
Man, I sooooo did not need that image. I'll probably be giggling through the next few debates.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (FzhYM)
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OK Ben...TEAR 'EM UP!!!
Posted by: The Real Williard at November 23, 2011 11:33 AM (YYHT+)
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Reading this post was a waste of life, never to be regained..........
DrewM, You owe me f*cker.......
DrewM, You owe me f*cker.......
Posted by: Yes it's True, damnit at November 23, 2011 11:34 AM (XGLac)
97
Oh man, I don't think Mitt plucked his eyebrows to be perfectly symmetric.
In fact, I think one of them is... tilting to the left!
MY GOD, MITT'S A SOCIALIST
In fact, I think one of them is... tilting to the left!
MY GOD, MITT'S A SOCIALIST
Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2011 11:34 AM (s7mIC)
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Like, really really sensitive. Almost like they can't take a fucking joke.
Which is the funny part? The part where those of us who think this is petty are invited to leave? Drew turns out to have his reasons, but funny it ain't.
Demented brewer posts outright lies in the sidebar, gets called on it but won't retract. That's funny?
The cobloggers have the keys to Ace's shop and what they post is between them. NOMB. But the candidate you're nitpicking and outright lying about has a decent chance of being the nominee. Criticize to your heart's content, but some readers will actually believe the lies left here and they could even stay home. Is it worth that just to pass along a lie?
Doesn't seem like it to me, which is why I'm not laughing.
Which is the funny part? The part where those of us who think this is petty are invited to leave? Drew turns out to have his reasons, but funny it ain't.
Demented brewer posts outright lies in the sidebar, gets called on it but won't retract. That's funny?
The cobloggers have the keys to Ace's shop and what they post is between them. NOMB. But the candidate you're nitpicking and outright lying about has a decent chance of being the nominee. Criticize to your heart's content, but some readers will actually believe the lies left here and they could even stay home. Is it worth that just to pass along a lie?
Doesn't seem like it to me, which is why I'm not laughing.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:34 AM (puy4B)
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Pay no attention to the naysayers Drew. Talk all the shit about Mitt you want. Most of us hate his sorry RINO ass too.
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
And I repeat:
Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux Mitt sux
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 11:34 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2011 11:35 AM (SB0V2)
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I think I've found a toenail clipping of Ronald Reagan that I can use for cloning.If I'm successful, the first thing he'll do is pound the shit out of his own son
Posted by: Professor Frink at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (Y+DPZ)
Nope, won't work, Nancy called him Ronny, he was another goddamn first name flip flopper.
Posted by: Professor Frink at November 23, 2011 11:30 AM (Y+DPZ)
Nope, won't work, Nancy called him Ronny, he was another goddamn first name flip flopper.
Posted by: robtr at November 23, 2011 11:35 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 11:35 AM (5H6zj)
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Well of course I call myself Mitt. Do you think I want to be associated with that idiot who sells oatmeal and talks about his di-uh-bee-tus?
Posted by: Mittens! at November 23, 2011 11:35 AM (s7mIC)
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If you are one of these guy hanging on the Perry, becuase to be quite
frank, Perry may get he Nod, but he will never beat Obama. That makes
your Romney bashing really, really confusing.
It's not that confusing.
I think Mitt Romney is, in fact, a Republican in Name Only. I believe he chose the Republican party partly because his father had been one, but mostly because he knew he wouldn't get the nomination in MA as a Democrat. I believe he's a North-East Liberal, who was liberal enough to be elected Governor in Massachusetts. I will oppose Mitt Romney no matter who the current front-runner is. Including a puddle of dog diarrhea.
That said, I am also a Rick Perry supporter. But the second has nothing to do with the first.
frank, Perry may get he Nod, but he will never beat Obama. That makes
your Romney bashing really, really confusing.
It's not that confusing.
I think Mitt Romney is, in fact, a Republican in Name Only. I believe he chose the Republican party partly because his father had been one, but mostly because he knew he wouldn't get the nomination in MA as a Democrat. I believe he's a North-East Liberal, who was liberal enough to be elected Governor in Massachusetts. I will oppose Mitt Romney no matter who the current front-runner is. Including a puddle of dog diarrhea.
That said, I am also a Rick Perry supporter. But the second has nothing to do with the first.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:36 AM (8y9MW)
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Doesn't mean flip-flop mean you change positions, and then back again?
Seems he's got more conservative positions than he did several years back, but in a literal sense he really hasn't "flip-flopped".
Seems he's got more conservative positions than he did several years back, but in a literal sense he really hasn't "flip-flopped".
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:36 AM (b68Df)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 23, 2011 11:36 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 23, 2011 11:37 AM (kqqGm)
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@102
Well, speaking for myself, I don't support Romney, and I don't get the funny.
I guess that says more about me than the author.
Well, speaking for myself, I don't support Romney, and I don't get the funny.
I guess that says more about me than the author.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:37 AM (Xm1aB)
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HOLDFAST
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 23, 2011 11:37 AM (IfkGz)
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Good thing Teh Sarah!!!! didn't run, wouldn't have had a chance
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 23, 2011 11:37 AM (k6qqF)
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Scraping the barrell on the Mitt criticisms I see. Flipfloppery and Romneycare not good enough for you?
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at November 23, 2011 11:37 AM (epBek)
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Why would one call themselves Mitt on purpose?
Because it's better than "Willard?" Just at a guess.
We used to call them Rockefeller Republicans, AllenG.
I believe he's farther left than that. Remember, he likes mandates. He thinks they work.
Because it's better than "Willard?" Just at a guess.
We used to call them Rockefeller Republicans, AllenG.
I believe he's farther left than that. Remember, he likes mandates. He thinks they work.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:38 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans oZfic at November 23, 2011 11:39 AM (yAor6)
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So I guess that the next time Mitt tells Newt that he got the individual mandate idea from him Newt can just say he got the idea of allowing illegals to become legal residents from Mitt.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 11:39 AM (GULKT)
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my first name is my middle name. apparently this is beyond the comprehension of people who go by their first name or people who don't know their last name isn't an initial.
Posted by: PR at November 23, 2011 11:39 AM (8Iieo)
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No, AllenG, you see Mitt is completely electable even though he turns
off the base, because we'll be good little soldiers and vote for him in
the general (and defend him against the Obama machine when it starts
rolling out the anti-Mitt stuff)... but Rick Perry is not electable
because apparently Romney supporters are too offended by his
"liberalness" on immigration and his scary far-rightedness on
entitlement reform. Or something.
How about we let some votes get cast in the primary before declaring Romney the winner in the general?
off the base, because we'll be good little soldiers and vote for him in
the general (and defend him against the Obama machine when it starts
rolling out the anti-Mitt stuff)... but Rick Perry is not electable
because apparently Romney supporters are too offended by his
"liberalness" on immigration and his scary far-rightedness on
entitlement reform. Or something.
How about we let some votes get cast in the primary before declaring Romney the winner in the general?
Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 11:40 AM (5H6zj)
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@104
O.K., but I know of no one who believes Rick Perry can beat Obama, so you're basically saying that a purity test of the Republican Party is more important than kicking Obama out?
I have a different perspective, I would vote for Romney regardless in the general. Even though he maybe a RINO, he will be far better than Obama.
O.K., but I know of no one who believes Rick Perry can beat Obama, so you're basically saying that a purity test of the Republican Party is more important than kicking Obama out?
I have a different perspective, I would vote for Romney regardless in the general. Even though he maybe a RINO, he will be far better than Obama.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 11:40 AM (JMsOK)
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Well, I see the update wherein the author now claims the original post was a joke, thus contradicting his claims in the comments.
I love this thread. Perfect for the day before Thanksgiving. Not much going on.
Well, I see the update wherein the author now claims the original post was a joke, thus contradicting his claims in the comments.
I love this thread. Perfect for the day before Thanksgiving. Not much going on.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:40 AM (Xm1aB)
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Memo to the Mittens Collective
Once we have achieved total domination, the first against the wall will be this DrewM fellow
Once we have achieved total domination, the first against the wall will be this DrewM fellow
Posted by: Mittens! at November 23, 2011 11:40 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (YXmuI)
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115 my first name is my middle name. apparently this is beyond the comprehension of people who go by their first name or people who don't know their last name isn't an initial.
Posted by: PR at November 23, 2011 11:39 AM (8Iieo)
Huh?
Posted by: PR at November 23, 2011 11:39 AM (8Iieo)
Huh?
Posted by: Louis C.K. at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (RD7QR)
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Oh comon dear Romneybots. The problem here isnt that you dont "get" the joke, its that you dont like it because its at the cost of your candidate. And thats reallykinda pathetic. I for one enjoy couch-jokes about Newt and Nancytremendously. So loosen up, would you?
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (/TSnh)
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Why would one call themselves Mitt on purpose?I worked at a place where the guy we dealt with on a deal was W. Uriah something or other. We spent a lot of time trying to figure out what the hell the W stood for to make him voluntarily go by Uriah.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (VtjlW)
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So I guess that the people who loathe Romney think that if he were elected he would break most of his campaign promises and govern hard left, right?
You really believe that's what he would do?
Maybe....just maybe....he was a right of center guy living in Massachussetts who tempered his position to make himself politically viable, and that what he truly desires is to pursue a conservative agenda. Just a thought.
You really believe that's what he would do?
Maybe....just maybe....he was a right of center guy living in Massachussetts who tempered his position to make himself politically viable, and that what he truly desires is to pursue a conservative agenda. Just a thought.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (b68Df)
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>>Well, speaking for myself, I don't support Romney, and I don't get the funny.
Are you offended by the post and going ballistic on Drew for making it?
Are you offended by the post and going ballistic on Drew for making it?
Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (sqkOB)
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97 Oh man, I don't think Mitt plucked his eyebrows to be perfectly symmetric._________
It's part of a clever strategy to steal Huntsman's O.o base.
It's part of a clever strategy to steal Huntsman's O.o base.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (NmR1a)
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O.K., but I know of no one who believes Rick Perry can beat Obama
*cough*
Of course, I also think Barry would lose to a certain foul-mouthed time-traveling sandwich.
Perry/Coldcuts'12
*cough*
Of course, I also think Barry would lose to a certain foul-mouthed time-traveling sandwich.
Perry/Coldcuts'12
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 23, 2011 11:42 AM (IfkGz)
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my first name is my middle name.
No. Your first name is your first name. Your "given" name may be your middle name, but it isn't your "first" name.
Both of my brothers go by their middle names, neither has ever confused doing so with their "middle name" suddenly being their "first name." "First" and "Middle" are ordinal terms: they indicate order. No matter how often people call you by the one instead of the other, your middle name will never be your first name- short of a legal name change.
On the other hand, it's pretty clear to me that Mitt was making a joke, and it fell completely flat.
No. Your first name is your first name. Your "given" name may be your middle name, but it isn't your "first" name.
Both of my brothers go by their middle names, neither has ever confused doing so with their "middle name" suddenly being their "first name." "First" and "Middle" are ordinal terms: they indicate order. No matter how often people call you by the one instead of the other, your middle name will never be your first name- short of a legal name change.
On the other hand, it's pretty clear to me that Mitt was making a joke, and it fell completely flat.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:42 AM (8y9MW)
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Yo, Romneyvores! I just ran into your sense of humor! It said it would be glad to come home when you stopped being such assholes!
(Seriously, the rest of us have to take the trashing, but Romney has to remain pristine? Do you even think about that? Geez...)
(Seriously, the rest of us have to take the trashing, but Romney has to remain pristine? Do you even think about that? Geez...)
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@112
Allen,
"Remember, he likes mandates. He thinks they work."
O.K. Now I have to really quesiton your thinking. I want to see proof of this statement. You don't seem to have a very good understanding of what happend in Massachusetts.
Allen,
"Remember, he likes mandates. He thinks they work."
O.K. Now I have to really quesiton your thinking. I want to see proof of this statement. You don't seem to have a very good understanding of what happend in Massachusetts.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 11:43 AM (JMsOK)
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The real joke is Mitt being on the Republican ticket. Ha fukkin' ha.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 11:43 AM (OlN4e)
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let me amend my comment. it's also beyond the comprehension of Aggies.
Posted by: PR at November 23, 2011 11:44 AM (8Iieo)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 23, 2011 11:44 AM (SDkq3)
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112 Why would one call themselves Mitt on purpose?
Because it's better than "Willard?" Just at a guess.________
Yeah, but "Willard" gives you a plausible route to "Bill", which is perfectly respectable.
Because it's better than "Willard?" Just at a guess.________
Yeah, but "Willard" gives you a plausible route to "Bill", which is perfectly respectable.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 23, 2011 11:44 AM (NmR1a)
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Johnny is, in fact, my real first name.
Posted by: Johnny Coldcuts at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (IfkGz)
137
I guess that makes me a flip-flopper too.
Posted by: Zombie John Calvin Coolidge, Jr. at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (s7mIC)
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Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:40 AM (Xm1aB)
How did I contradict my comment? I wrote:
Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5
minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight?
Yeah.
See it's not funny that Richard Perry goes by Rick because...
1-Rick is derivative of Richard not a separate name.
2-Perry doesn't have a reputation of having trouble with telling the truth like W. Mitt Romney does. So when W. Mitt Romney makes a joke and it looks like he can't keep his own name straight it's funny.
How did I contradict my comment? I wrote:
Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5
minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight?
Yeah.
See it's not funny that Richard Perry goes by Rick because...
1-Rick is derivative of Richard not a separate name.
2-Perry doesn't have a reputation of having trouble with telling the truth like W. Mitt Romney does. So when W. Mitt Romney makes a joke and it looks like he can't keep his own name straight it's funny.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (dw7rB)
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@125
I asked early on if the post was a joke or not?
Why?
Because, even though I don't support Romney, I thought this couldn't be a valid criticism or reason for not supporting Romney.
The author disavowed the post as a joke in the comments.
If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
I asked early on if the post was a joke or not?
Why?
Because, even though I don't support Romney, I thought this couldn't be a valid criticism or reason for not supporting Romney.
The author disavowed the post as a joke in the comments.
If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
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With as big a case of Commitment-Phobia that I've ever seen, I'm surprised the he ever got married.
Preacher: Do you take this woman to be your lawful wedded wife?
Mitt: Yes. NO. Uh, maybe. Let's talk about this. How about tomorrow. Is that a good day for you dear?
Preacher: Do you take this woman to be your lawful wedded wife?
Mitt: Yes. NO. Uh, maybe. Let's talk about this. How about tomorrow. Is that a good day for you dear?
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (xqpQL)
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Remember when Romney made that agonizingly awkward attempt at singing "Who Let the Dogs Out?" in 2008? Not only shouldn't he be our president, we should revoke his citizenship.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:47 AM (YXmuI)
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'Willard and His Bowling Trophies' is a great book.
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2011 11:47 AM (f7VXx)
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Rick Perry must have had another brain fart because his real name is James Richard Perry.
Rick Santorum name recognition is so bad that he doesn't use his real name Richard.
Ron Paul hates the Fed so much that he forgets that his real name is Ronald.
Newt Gingrich must have been looking into having another affair because he didn't tell the women in the audience that his real name is Newton Leroy Gingrich.
Mitt is such a flip flopper that he says his first name is Mitt when his real first name is Willard.
So, based on this post, we can only support Herman Cain, Michelle Bachman or Jon Huntsman.
FML, are Bloomberg or Trump still viable for 3rd party?
Rick Santorum name recognition is so bad that he doesn't use his real name Richard.
Ron Paul hates the Fed so much that he forgets that his real name is Ronald.
Newt Gingrich must have been looking into having another affair because he didn't tell the women in the audience that his real name is Newton Leroy Gingrich.
Mitt is such a flip flopper that he says his first name is Mitt when his real first name is Willard.
So, based on this post, we can only support Herman Cain, Michelle Bachman or Jon Huntsman.
FML, are Bloomberg or Trump still viable for 3rd party?
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 23, 2011 11:47 AM (AM+sr)
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Willard "Mitt" Romney, the Republican answer to Michael "Mike" Dukakis. Shit what has this country come to: Barak, Mitt, Newt?
Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 23, 2011 11:48 AM (0M3AQ)
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Normal
0
The first thing I have to do in the morning when I get up is
run to the bathroom and take a Mitt.
That is because I am taking stool softeners and laxatives to
offset other drugs that stifle the economy internally.
But so far I am lucky. I haven’t been nauseated and had to Newt.
Luckily I am protected by not having to worry about James
because his name is common for the game.
Normal
0
The first thing I have to do in the morning when I get up is
run to the bathroom and take a Mitt.
That is because I am taking stool softeners and laxatives to
offset other drugs that stifle the economy internally.
But so far I am lucky. I haven’t been nauseated and had to Newt.
Luckily I am protected by not having to worry about James
because his name is common for the game.
Posted by: Vic at November 23, 2011 11:48 AM (YdQQY)
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I remember when Drew was too much of a RINO 'round these parts. Now he's too much on Mitt's case.
Too freaking funny, that.
Too freaking funny, that.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:48 AM (pLTLS)
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This is what was killing me last night. Mitt labeled Gingrich's plan as "amnesty," but refused to state a plan of his own for dealing with the millions of illegals already here.
The great mushy, filp-flopper attacked Gingrich for taking a stand while he weaseled out of the question. He basically attacked Gingrich for having the backbone (however misguided his answer may have been) that he lacked. And his supporters lapped it up! And attacked Newt for having the same policy as their guy.
The great mushy, filp-flopper attacked Gingrich for taking a stand while he weaseled out of the question. He basically attacked Gingrich for having the backbone (however misguided his answer may have been) that he lacked. And his supporters lapped it up! And attacked Newt for having the same policy as their guy.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 11:48 AM (ES9R7)
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Mitt: Yes. NO. Uh, maybe. Let's talk about this. How about tomorrow. Is that a good day for you dear?
Herman had to seek expertadvicefrom his best man, while Newt refused to answer on advice of counsel.
Herman had to seek expertadvicefrom his best man, while Newt refused to answer on advice of counsel.
Posted by: Johnny Coldcuts at November 23, 2011 11:48 AM (IfkGz)
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Romney bashing is so ubiquitous I barely react to it. The Perry supporters on the other hand are often every bit as hyper-sensitive to anycriticism of their belovedbumblingcandidate as the Palinbots are of Sarah.
Anyway, my beef with the postwould bethat the joke really isn't that funny.
Anyway, my beef with the postwould bethat the joke really isn't that funny.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (b68Df)
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The author disavowed the post as a joke in the comments. If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
Really? Drew's comment about the post included: Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5 minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight? Yeah.
Sure sounds to me like he was going for humor. Oh well he can just claim to have learned his comedic chops from Willard.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
Really? Drew's comment about the post included: Do I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5 minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight? Yeah.
Sure sounds to me like he was going for humor. Oh well he can just claim to have learned his comedic chops from Willard.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (GULKT)
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Um.....
Posted by: Heironymus George Washington at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (YXmuI)
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Living in a small town I actually don't know the given names of about half the people. They seem to pick up a nic name and just go with it. Muffler, Cooter, Red....
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (tf9Ne)
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O.K., but I know of no one who believes Rick Perry can beat Obama, so
you're basically saying that a purity test of the Republican Party is
more important than kicking Obama out?
And I know a whole bunch (not just in Texas) who do. So where does that leave us. And, kicking the SCOAMF out may be the most important thing (and, if it looked like there was any chance the Republican would not win Texas in the general, I would probably (well, maybe) hold my nose and vote for Romney if he won the nomination), but getting someone who will actually attempt to reverse course is so close to being as important, that some days its hard for me to tell which is actually in front.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (YXmuI)
You know he was the governor of Massachusetts, yes? And he was Republican there? I believe he was just ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base (not enough for someone outside of MA to tell the difference), that he figured he'd have an easier time running as a Republican than as a Democrat. His record as Governor certainly doesn't show that he was conservative. At all.
I've actually said this before, but it's been a while since we've gone over it.
who tempered his position to make himself politically viable, and that
what he truly desires is to pursue a conservative agenda. Just a
thought.
And maybe, just maybe, you should trust what people do more than what they say, and realize that he'll govern as as close to center as he possibly can, if elected President, and the only think that will keep him from going left-of-center is the fact that he would want re-election. "I like mandates. Mandates work."
you're basically saying that a purity test of the Republican Party is
more important than kicking Obama out?
And I know a whole bunch (not just in Texas) who do. So where does that leave us. And, kicking the SCOAMF out may be the most important thing (and, if it looked like there was any chance the Republican would not win Texas in the general, I would probably (well, maybe) hold my nose and vote for Romney if he won the nomination), but getting someone who will actually attempt to reverse course is so close to being as important, that some days its hard for me to tell which is actually in front.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:41 AM (YXmuI)
You know he was the governor of Massachusetts, yes? And he was Republican there? I believe he was just ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base (not enough for someone outside of MA to tell the difference), that he figured he'd have an easier time running as a Republican than as a Democrat. His record as Governor certainly doesn't show that he was conservative. At all.
I've actually said this before, but it's been a while since we've gone over it.
who tempered his position to make himself politically viable, and that
what he truly desires is to pursue a conservative agenda. Just a
thought.
And maybe, just maybe, you should trust what people do more than what they say, and realize that he'll govern as as close to center as he possibly can, if elected President, and the only think that will keep him from going left-of-center is the fact that he would want re-election. "I like mandates. Mandates work."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
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(Seriously, the rest of us have to take the trashing, but Romney has to remain pristine? Do you even think about that? Geez...)
Now see? This is funny! Yeah, Romney gets the kid-glove treatment around here every day!
I'm dying here!
Great stuff.
Now see? This is funny! Yeah, Romney gets the kid-glove treatment around here every day!
I'm dying here!
Great stuff.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (puy4B)
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Romney was named after Willard Marriott and Milton 'Mitt' Romney who also was a chicago bears QB in the 20's.
Posted by: polynikes- Texan for Romney at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (LNRLz)
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Hey I'm going to lighten the mood a bit.
This could be a fun post in its own right --
MoveOn has given its readers some helping talking points to debunk what they perceive to be myths on the economy and OWS.
link to Black Right
This could be a fun post in its own right --
MoveOn has given its readers some helping talking points to debunk what they perceive to be myths on the economy and OWS.
link to Black Right
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (pLTLS)
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139
@125
I asked early on if the post was a joke or not?
Why?
Because, even though I don't support Romney, I thought this couldn't be a valid criticism or reason for not supporting Romney.
The author disavowed the post as a joke in the comments.
If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
-----
Drew's second post (first was not relevant to your point):
44
Do I think this is a reason not to vote for Mitt? Of course not.
Do
I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5
minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight?
Yeah.
If anyone else did this, it wouldn't even be a thing. With
Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone
about any and everything.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (dw7rB)
I just came to this thread. I read the post and got a chuckle. It was clear DrewM was not saying "don't vote for Mitt because he lied about his first name." His comment makes that clear, too.
If you don't get a chuckle out of it, fine, but it is funny that Mitt states his first name is Mitt when it is actually Willard... and the reason it's funny is that he has a reputation (which I think he has earned over the years) of saying anything to appeal to whomever he is addressing at the moment.
@125
I asked early on if the post was a joke or not?
Why?
Because, even though I don't support Romney, I thought this couldn't be a valid criticism or reason for not supporting Romney.
The author disavowed the post as a joke in the comments.
If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:45 AM (Xm1aB)
-----
Drew's second post (first was not relevant to your point):
44
Do I think this is a reason not to vote for Mitt? Of course not.
Do
I think it's funny that the guy who can't keep a story straight for 5
minutes about anything can't keep the story about his name straight?
Yeah.
If anyone else did this, it wouldn't even be a thing. With
Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone
about any and everything.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:18 AM (dw7rB)
I just came to this thread. I read the post and got a chuckle. It was clear DrewM was not saying "don't vote for Mitt because he lied about his first name." His comment makes that clear, too.
If you don't get a chuckle out of it, fine, but it is funny that Mitt states his first name is Mitt when it is actually Willard... and the reason it's funny is that he has a reputation (which I think he has earned over the years) of saying anything to appeal to whomever he is addressing at the moment.
Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (5H6zj)
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I remember when Drew was too much of a RINO 'round these parts. Now he's too much on Mitt's case.
I've been wondering if the real Drew got replaced by a pod-alien-clone or something.
I've been wondering if the real Drew got replaced by a pod-alien-clone or something.
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (SDkq3)
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@138
You left out the part of your comment wherein you actually state:
"With Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone about any and everything."
I presume you weren't joking when you wrote that, but apparently I wouldn't know it if you were.
You left out the part of your comment wherein you actually state:
"With Mitt, it just shows how he tries so hard to be everything to everyone about any and everything."
I presume you weren't joking when you wrote that, but apparently I wouldn't know it if you were.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (Xm1aB)
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If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
This is the same crap we heard on the Cain threads. If you defended Cain against the accusations you were labeled a Cainiac.
The original implication of this post was Mitt is a liar and here's the proof! Saying this is the bush league stuff you read on Media Matters makes you a Romneybot. So very silly.
If pointing out that the "criticism" is silly equates to "going ballistic" in your world, then so be it.
This is the same crap we heard on the Cain threads. If you defended Cain against the accusations you were labeled a Cainiac.
The original implication of this post was Mitt is a liar and here's the proof! Saying this is the bush league stuff you read on Media Matters makes you a Romneybot. So very silly.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:50 AM (sqkOB)
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*helpful
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:51 AM (pLTLS)
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These debates are getting old. I will spend most of the year "researching" internet pron. When election day comes around I will pull the lever labeled "Not Obama"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 23, 2011 11:51 AM (pdRb1)
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146
I remember when Drew was too much of a RINO 'round these parts. Now he's too much on Mitt's case. Too freaking funny, that.
No, it's that this is a really stupid criticism of Mitt, and makes DrewM seem petty and small-minded.
Mitt deserves all the legitimate criticism that he gets, but come on - saying that he "flip-flopped about his first name" is kinda ridiculous.
I remember when Drew was too much of a RINO 'round these parts. Now he's too much on Mitt's case. Too freaking funny, that.
No, it's that this is a really stupid criticism of Mitt, and makes DrewM seem petty and small-minded.
Mitt deserves all the legitimate criticism that he gets, but come on - saying that he "flip-flopped about his first name" is kinda ridiculous.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2011 11:51 AM (s7mIC)
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I know a lot of people have a candidate they like and think they get bashed here. But can you honestly say there hasn't been a candidate who hasn't taken hits here when they are deserved?
Who exactly is getting a free pass or being unfairly singled out?
Who exactly is getting a free pass or being unfairly singled out?
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (dw7rB)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (Xm1aB)
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Slow news day.
Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (IfkGz)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (ENKCw)
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I've been wondering if the real Drew got replaced by a pod-alien-clone or something.
You will all be assimilated.
You will all be assimilated.
Posted by: The Mittens Collective at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 11:52 AM (Xm1aB)
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And maybe, just maybe, you should trust what people do more than what they say, and realize that he'll govern as as close to center as he possibly can, if elected President, and the only think that will keep him from going left-of-center is the fact that he would want re-election. "I like mandates. Mandates work."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
The problem with that is that the "middle" has been moved far to the left the past few years. So I reject the premise that the "middle" is in the middle.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
The problem with that is that the "middle" has been moved far to the left the past few years. So I reject the premise that the "middle" is in the middle.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 11:53 AM (OlN4e)
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Yes, Dave (Xm1aB), you and your fellow sourpusses went ballistic and crazy-eyed freakazoid with anger about a simple little post that literally "poked fun" at your favorite nominee.
You didn't respectfully disagree. You guys went apeshit.
You fellows deliberately misinterpreted the post so you could "get your rage on". It is ugly and stupid and irrational.
If anything will keep me home if Romney is the nominee, it's going to be your guys' incoherent rage-filled panty-twisting spittleflecked screaming in this thread.
Because fuck you.
You didn't respectfully disagree. You guys went apeshit.
You fellows deliberately misinterpreted the post so you could "get your rage on". It is ugly and stupid and irrational.
If anything will keep me home if Romney is the nominee, it's going to be your guys' incoherent rage-filled panty-twisting spittleflecked screaming in this thread.
Because fuck you.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 23, 2011 11:53 AM (010Nv)
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The Perry supporters on the other hand are often every bit as hyper-sensitive to anycriticism of their belovedbumblingcandidate as the Palinbots are of Sarah.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (b68Df)
Thats simply not true and prove of that is that Perrykrishnas leftPerry in droves when he failed to perform and even his remaining supporters admit and understand why the others left. No comparison.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (b68Df)
Thats simply not true and prove of that is that Perrykrishnas leftPerry in droves when he failed to perform and even his remaining supporters admit and understand why the others left. No comparison.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 11:53 AM (/TSnh)
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I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure yet?
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at November 23, 2011 11:53 AM (IfkGz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 11:54 AM (sqkOB)
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139 Because, even though I don't support Romney, I thought this couldn't be a valid criticism or reason for not supporting Romney. _________
If everyone only said valid, reasonable things, we wouldn't need a first amendment.
If everyone only said valid, reasonable things, we wouldn't need a first amendment.
Posted by: Anachronda is tacking towards Godwin at November 23, 2011 11:54 AM (FzhYM)
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I believe he was just ever-so-slightly to the right of the general
Democrat base (not enough for someone outside of MA to tell the
difference), that he figured he'd have an easier time running as a
Republican than as a Democrat.
Wow, sorry to have been so slow as not to grasp this point. He is "ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base", i.e. most of the voters of MA, so of course, the obvious, easy thing to do is run as a Republican.
Democrat base (not enough for someone outside of MA to tell the
difference), that he figured he'd have an easier time running as a
Republican than as a Democrat.
Wow, sorry to have been so slow as not to grasp this point. He is "ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base", i.e. most of the voters of MA, so of course, the obvious, easy thing to do is run as a Republican.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 11:54 AM (YXmuI)
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No, it's that this is a really stupid criticism of Mitt, and makes DrewM seem petty and small-minded.
As Y-Not and others already explained this isn't petty for those of us that think he's as fickle as the wind looking to take the electorate's temperature.
As Y-Not and others already explained this isn't petty for those of us that think he's as fickle as the wind looking to take the electorate's temperature.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (pLTLS)
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If anything will keep me home if Romney is the nominee, it's going to be
your guys' incoherent rage-filled panty-twisting spittleflecked
screaming in this thread.
You too will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
your guys' incoherent rage-filled panty-twisting spittleflecked
screaming in this thread.
You too will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Posted by: The Mittens Collective at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (s7mIC)
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I've said it before, I'll say it again
It's posts like this that make me glad I'm a democrat
It's posts like this that make me glad I'm a democrat
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (k6qqF)
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Yeah, Mitt moved to the right in 2008, we know that. Do have some new information?
Posted by: Ken Royall at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (9zzk+)
182
I guess I should clear two other things up...
I don't really want to see W. Mitt Romney's original long form birth certificate and Jen Rubin didn't really email that.
Sorry for any confusion you may have had.
I don't really want to see W. Mitt Romney's original long form birth certificate and Jen Rubin didn't really email that.
Sorry for any confusion you may have had.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 11:56 AM (dw7rB)
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Ah, I see, everybody who thinks this post was needlessly petty is just a Romneybot. Are we paid RomneyBots? Are we part of the vast hidden Mormon Collective? Are we secretly in the offices of the DNC or NPR trying to trick the Republicans into nominating a northeastern liberal?
Just want to know. Also good to check whether my repeatedly saying I would prefer Perry as President has been recognized as the obvious lie it is (we learn that technique Day 1 here at NPR/Romney HQ.) It's all just
There are plenty of sites that jump on every minor plausible gaffe by Republicans - HuffingtonPost, The Daily Show, NYTimes.
Romney has plenty of actual gaffes and actual flip-flops and actual dumb positions to attack. This isn't one of them.
Just want to know. Also good to check whether my repeatedly saying I would prefer Perry as President has been recognized as the obvious lie it is (we learn that technique Day 1 here at NPR/Romney HQ.) It's all just
There are plenty of sites that jump on every minor plausible gaffe by Republicans - HuffingtonPost, The Daily Show, NYTimes.
Romney has plenty of actual gaffes and actual flip-flops and actual dumb positions to attack. This isn't one of them.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 11:56 AM (QcFbt)
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It occurred to me (granted, it's a stretch) that Mitt was saying something like "oh yeah, your real first name is 'Wolf', just like mine is 'Mitt'"
That would be kinda clever but hard to pull off because most people don't really know his first name, if they did, that would have been a pretty good slap at Wolf. Blitz. Whatever his real name is.
Anyway, I'm no Willard guy but it seems like NBD to me.
That would be kinda clever but hard to pull off because most people don't really know his first name, if they did, that would have been a pretty good slap at Wolf. Blitz. Whatever his real name is.
Anyway, I'm no Willard guy but it seems like NBD to me.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 23, 2011 11:57 AM (WvXvd)
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158 I've been wondering if the real Drew got replaced by a pod-alien-clone or something.___________
I've always wondered if the real Drew was a pod-alien or something. 'Course, I think about half of you are figments of my imagination...
I've always wondered if the real Drew was a pod-alien or something. 'Course, I think about half of you are figments of my imagination...
Posted by: Anachronda at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (xGZ+b)
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Mitt probably wont be the nominee. The guy gets endorsements and it doesnt move his poll numbers a tick. NO one in the reak world likes him except northeasterners
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (FKQng)
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As Y-Not and others already explained this isn't
petty for those of us that think he's as fickle as the wind looking to
take the electorate's temperature.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (pLTLS)
He is fickle. And it is also petty to criticize him for responding to Wolf's joke with "Mitt is my first name" as some sort of egregious flip-flop.
petty for those of us that think he's as fickle as the wind looking to
take the electorate's temperature.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 11:55 AM (pLTLS)
He is fickle. And it is also petty to criticize him for responding to Wolf's joke with "Mitt is my first name" as some sort of egregious flip-flop.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (s7mIC)
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You can smell the butthurt from certain Romney supporters on this thread from the next website over.
And yes, we will nominate this guy.
And yes, we will nominate this guy.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (AZGON)
189
Wow, sorry to have been so slow as not to grasp this point. He is
"ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base", i.e. most
of the voters of MA, so of course, the obvious, easy thing to do is run
as a Republican.
Yes, because the guy who got the Democrat ticket would be just a little closer to the general Democrat base, and Mittens could (I'm guessing "Did") win any republican primary with the same promises of "electability" that he's using now. Only difference being that, in MA, it was true.
"ever-so-slightly to the right of the general Democrat base", i.e. most
of the voters of MA, so of course, the obvious, easy thing to do is run
as a Republican.
Yes, because the guy who got the Democrat ticket would be just a little closer to the general Democrat base, and Mittens could (I'm guessing "Did") win any republican primary with the same promises of "electability" that he's using now. Only difference being that, in MA, it was true.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (8y9MW)
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The only thing that will resolve this pressing issue is a ten thousand word long post by Ace explaining to us what is funny and what is not funny.
New thread please!
New thread please!
Posted by: Y-not at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (5H6zj)
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Thats simply not true and prove of that is that Perrykrishnas leftPerry in droves when he failed to perform and even his remaining supporters admit and understand why the others left. No comparison.
You are wrong. It is absolutely true. Demonstrably true. Go to redstate.com aka Rickstate.com, read some posts,then come back here and tell me how well Perry's hardcore supporters take criticism of their candidate.
You are wrong. It is absolutely true. Demonstrably true. Go to redstate.com aka Rickstate.com, read some posts,then come back here and tell me how well Perry's hardcore supporters take criticism of their candidate.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (b68Df)
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Who exactly is getting a free pass or being unfairly singled out?
Perry gets pretty good treatment around here. I have no problem with that--it's Ace's blog, he likes the guy. Fine.
I like the guy. Know what? He was very bad last night--really awful. I know he isn't stupid but he's got to be on notice that we can't keep ignoring his knuckle-headedness.
Romney gets this petty shit, which is nothing worse than petty. And he gets outright lies from rdbrewer and they stay up even after he is called on it. That's downright Left-ish in its dishonesty.
Perry gets pretty good treatment around here. I have no problem with that--it's Ace's blog, he likes the guy. Fine.
I like the guy. Know what? He was very bad last night--really awful. I know he isn't stupid but he's got to be on notice that we can't keep ignoring his knuckle-headedness.
Romney gets this petty shit, which is nothing worse than petty. And he gets outright lies from rdbrewer and they stay up even after he is called on it. That's downright Left-ish in its dishonesty.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (puy4B)
Posted by: The Mittens Collective at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (s7mIC)
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Vote your candidate in the primary. Vote the nominee of the GOP in the General. Otherwise you support Barak Obama.
Perry, still my candidate.
Perry, still my candidate.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (kaOJx)
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So did Newt get a hold of Perry's time machine that he used to make those women accuse Cain of sexual harrassment and use it to make Romney say that he thinks illegals should be able to become legal residents?
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (GULKT)
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162 These debates are getting old. I will spend most of the year "researching" internet pron. When election day comes around I will pull the lever labeled "Not Obama"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 23, 2011 11:51 AM (pdRb1)
Be sure to prepare a presentation detailing your results.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 23, 2011 11:51 AM (pdRb1)
Be sure to prepare a presentation detailing your results.
Posted by: joncelli at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (RD7QR)
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I don't really want to see W. Mitt Romney's original long form birth certificate and Jen Rubin didn't really email that.
You're one of those guys that likes to tap the aquarium to watch the fish freak out aren't you?
You're one of those guys that likes to tap the aquarium to watch the fish freak out aren't you?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (tf9Ne)
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186 Mitt probably wont be the nominee. The guy gets endorsements and it doesnt move his poll numbers a tick. NO one in the reak world likes him except northeasterners
Is the reak world thereal world or just the world that northeasterners live in.
Is the reak world thereal world or just the world that northeasterners live in.
Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (0M3AQ)
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And maybe, just maybe, you should trust what people do more than what they say, and realize that he'll govern as as close to center as he possibly can, if elected President, and the only think that will keep him from going left-of-center is the fact that he would want re-election. "I like mandates. Mandates work."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
The problem with that is that the "middle" has been moved far to the left the past few years. So I reject the premise that the "middle" is in the middle.
Okay, can we all agree that this is some funny shit?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 11:49 AM (8y9MW)
The problem with that is that the "middle" has been moved far to the left the past few years. So I reject the premise that the "middle" is in the middle.
Okay, can we all agree that this is some funny shit?
Posted by: alexthechick at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (VtjlW)
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What makes Santorum so out of the question? What am I missing?
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:00 PM (psns8)
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It's posts like this that make me glad I'm a democrat
Yeah. "Your" candidate is going to be Barack Obama, who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. So much better.
Yeah. "Your" candidate is going to be Barack Obama, who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. So much better.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:00 PM (8y9MW)
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Santorum lost an election recently, but wasn't Newt voted out of office too?
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:01 PM (psns8)
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171 The problem with that is that the "middle" has been moved far to the left first the past few years. So I reject the premise that the "middle" is in the middle._________
FIFY
FIFY
Posted by: W. Mitt Romney at November 23, 2011 12:01 PM (NmR1a)
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What makes Santorum so out of the question? What am I missing?
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:00 PM (psns
Exactly! So can I get a turn? Can I get a turn, Wolf? How about a question over here, Wolf? Is it my turn yet? My turn! My turn! My turn now! WAWAWAWAWA
What makes Santorum so out of the question? What am I missing?
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:00 PM (psns
Exactly! So can I get a turn? Can I get a turn, Wolf? How about a question over here, Wolf? Is it my turn yet? My turn! My turn! My turn now! WAWAWAWAWA
Posted by: Ricky S. at November 23, 2011 12:01 PM (s7mIC)
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Haha. Here at AoS, we've had the news of that Russian newswoman flipping off the JEF for a couple of days -- it just made the top of Drudge.
Pace setters.
Pace setters.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 23, 2011 12:02 PM (ENKCw)
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BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
*It's Winona
BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
*It's Winona
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 23, 2011 12:02 PM (oBrVT)
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Thanks for answering my question so well, s7mIC. That was helpful. And so very sharp-witted.
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:02 PM (psns8)
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Yes, because the guy who got the Democrat ticket would be just a little
closer to the general Democrat base, and Mittens could (I'm guessing
"Did") win any republican primary with the same promises of
"electability" that he's using now.
So, you accuse him of plastic principles, then argue that he wouldn't move a little to the left to win the Dem nomination? Winning the Republican primary in MA is like winning the Falun Gong nomination in China.
closer to the general Democrat base, and Mittens could (I'm guessing
"Did") win any republican primary with the same promises of
"electability" that he's using now.
So, you accuse him of plastic principles, then argue that he wouldn't move a little to the left to win the Dem nomination? Winning the Republican primary in MA is like winning the Falun Gong nomination in China.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:03 PM (YXmuI)
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Yeah, its a nitpick, especially given the plethora of other flip flop opportunities to highlight. Again, the amnesty flip flop is hysterical.
I don't understand how anyone thinks Mitt-Willard/Willard-Mitt is electable. This guy would be a Donkey in nearly every other geography - and not even a blue-dog donkey. But go ahead, put him on the ticket... not only do independents not turn out, but you'll have conservatives flocking to a 3rd party or voting for Obama.
I don't understand how anyone thinks Mitt-Willard/Willard-Mitt is electable. This guy would be a Donkey in nearly every other geography - and not even a blue-dog donkey. But go ahead, put him on the ticket... not only do independents not turn out, but you'll have conservatives flocking to a 3rd party or voting for Obama.
Posted by: Brock O'Bama at November 23, 2011 12:03 PM (n1JN0)
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No, Newt resigned cause it came out he was cheating on his wife, while leading the Clinton impeachment fight. Looked really bad, so he stepped down.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:03 PM (QcFbt)
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Willard, Mitt, I don't care what you call him - he can flip-flop his mandate at my place any time.
call me xoxoxo
call me xoxoxo
Posted by: Jen Rubin at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (s7mIC)
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Perry gets pretty good treatment around here. I have no problem with that--it's Ace's blog, he likes the guy. Fine.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (puy4B)
But he also lets me write posts critical of Perry, which I've done on more than one occasion.
Perry hasn't gotten as much attention as he used to because he's a 6%. You know who doesn't get knocked around here? Santorum and Huntsman because they are non-factors.
Yes there are some folks who want Perry to be a factor (obviously that includes Ace) but he's not and I doubt he will be.
As for this Mitt thing...come on, the guy who will say anything to anyone incorrectly (even jokingly) identifies his first name? How isn't that a thing? Not a big thing by any stretch but it's a thing.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (puy4B)
But he also lets me write posts critical of Perry, which I've done on more than one occasion.
Perry hasn't gotten as much attention as he used to because he's a 6%. You know who doesn't get knocked around here? Santorum and Huntsman because they are non-factors.
Yes there are some folks who want Perry to be a factor (obviously that includes Ace) but he's not and I doubt he will be.
As for this Mitt thing...come on, the guy who will say anything to anyone incorrectly (even jokingly) identifies his first name? How isn't that a thing? Not a big thing by any stretch but it's a thing.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (dw7rB)
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Seems to me that this post is mainly a joke and some people are hyperventilating over it.
...while none of the Mitt fans seem to even notice the video in this post where Mitt directly contradicts his position on immigration that he took last night.
It's funny and jovial (re: the name), but also, hilariously on-point. And some of you don't get it.
...while none of the Mitt fans seem to even notice the video in this post where Mitt directly contradicts his position on immigration that he took last night.
It's funny and jovial (re: the name), but also, hilariously on-point. And some of you don't get it.
Posted by: LP at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (sUHGs)
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BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
I see we're edging closer to magic underwear jokes. Zat isss verboten!
I see we're edging closer to magic underwear jokes. Zat isss verboten!
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (yQwq5)
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He is fickle. And it is also petty to criticize him for responding to
Wolf's joke with "Mitt is my first name" as some sort of egregious
flip-flop.
Fine, flip flop is not the right word then. Jesus. Argumentative much? Over Mitt Fucking Romney. Imagine that!
Wolf's joke with "Mitt is my first name" as some sort of egregious
flip-flop.
Fine, flip flop is not the right word then. Jesus. Argumentative much? Over Mitt Fucking Romney. Imagine that!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 23, 2011 12:05 PM (k6qqF)
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So Romney can't tell a joke. On behalf of all my fellow Americans also descended from Prussians and Native Americans--two peoples not known for their rollicking, slapsticksense of humor (unless you think invading France is funny)--I heartily sympathize. My children cringe whenever I try to be funny. You should see my William Shatner impression.
But yeah, I guess Mitt's lack of comedic wit does speak to his stiffness of manner and overly buttoned-down style, but I don't think it's a disqualifier. He has a hard time with retail politicking, the press-the-flesh, kiss-the-baby aspects of campaigning, and that could prove a problem if he wins the GOP nomination and victory over Obama could be measured in decimal-point percentages. He's no good with strangers but from what I've read, those friends and family members close to him think of him as a warm and caring guy.
But yeah, I guess Mitt's lack of comedic wit does speak to his stiffness of manner and overly buttoned-down style, but I don't think it's a disqualifier. He has a hard time with retail politicking, the press-the-flesh, kiss-the-baby aspects of campaigning, and that could prove a problem if he wins the GOP nomination and victory over Obama could be measured in decimal-point percentages. He's no good with strangers but from what I've read, those friends and family members close to him think of him as a warm and caring guy.
Posted by: troyriser at November 23, 2011 12:05 PM (vtiE6)
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Are we part of the vast hidden Mormon Collective?
If you aren't yet, you will be soon.
Posted by: The Mittens Collective at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (s7mIC)
If fapping is not allowed, then no we are not part of the Mormon Collective.
Are we part of the vast hidden Mormon Collective?
If you aren't yet, you will be soon.
Posted by: The Mittens Collective at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (s7mIC)
If fapping is not allowed, then no we are not part of the Mormon Collective.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 23, 2011 12:05 PM (AM+sr)
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In all honesty Perry did well in certain spots in last nights debate.
However, Bachmann absolutely schooled him in their exchange on Pakistan. His idea of abruptly withdrawing all aid from Pakistanwas indeed naive. A knee-jerk reaction. Simplistic foreign policy crafted for cheap applause.
He ain't gonna be nominated. If he managed to get nominated I have difficulty imagining how he would win in a general election.
However, Bachmann absolutely schooled him in their exchange on Pakistan. His idea of abruptly withdrawing all aid from Pakistanwas indeed naive. A knee-jerk reaction. Simplistic foreign policy crafted for cheap applause.
He ain't gonna be nominated. If he managed to get nominated I have difficulty imagining how he would win in a general election.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (b68Df)
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Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 11:58 AM (b68Df)
Why do you have to send me to redstate? Ace and a lot of the cob-loggers are still Perrykrishnas and quite reasonable. Whereas all Iget from Romneybots is the old Palinista meme that if the savior isnt successfullit must bethe fault of the electorate. Its a lil bit like Brechts government desolving the people and elect a new one. I dont see that from Perrykrishnas at least not on this blog.
Why do you have to send me to redstate? Ace and a lot of the cob-loggers are still Perrykrishnas and quite reasonable. Whereas all Iget from Romneybots is the old Palinista meme that if the savior isnt successfullit must bethe fault of the electorate. Its a lil bit like Brechts government desolving the people and elect a new one. I dont see that from Perrykrishnas at least not on this blog.
Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (/TSnh)
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"No, Newt resigned cause it came out he was cheating on his wife, while leading the Clinton impeachment fight. Looked really bad, so he stepped down."
And this is somehow better than Santorum losing an election?
And this is somehow better than Santorum losing an election?
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (psns8)
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It's funny and jovial (re: the name), but also, hilariously on-point. And some of you don't get it.
Read the post before yours.
How isn't that a thing? Not a big thing by any stretch but it's a thing.
It was either a joke or it wasn't.
Read the post before yours.
How isn't that a thing? Not a big thing by any stretch but it's a thing.
It was either a joke or it wasn't.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (YXmuI)
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What funny about invading France?
Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (yQwq5)
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BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
I have a secret Papist confirmation name. Olive.
There are enough real concerns about Romney without dragging in innocuous points of his religious practices. If I was worried about shit like that, I wouldn't be able to even consider someone who interprets the Bible literally.
BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
I have a secret Papist confirmation name. Olive.
There are enough real concerns about Romney without dragging in innocuous points of his religious practices. If I was worried about shit like that, I wouldn't be able to even consider someone who interprets the Bible literally.
Posted by: Y-not, dirty papist at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (5H6zj)
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Eisenhower is said to have hated his first name, David, so he flipped flopped it with Dwight, his real middle name. So, not unprecedentally unpresidential. Obama is said to not like his birth name: S*OAMF.
My little sister flip-flops better than Mitt anyway, and I don't even have a little sister. That's true because it's funny.
Why isn't Johnson getting traction? He kicked New Mexicos ass harder than Perry has Texas'. Is it the pot? Has Ace done a post on Gary someone could link for me? Cool.
My little sister flip-flops better than Mitt anyway, and I don't even have a little sister. That's true because it's funny.
Why isn't Johnson getting traction? He kicked New Mexicos ass harder than Perry has Texas'. Is it the pot? Has Ace done a post on Gary someone could link for me? Cool.
Posted by: Ann d'Mestik at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (reIrd)
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Is the reak world the real world or just the world that northeasterners live in.
Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (0M3AQ)
oh god, i missed the L key by one. Fuck I'm a retard unlike King Mittens
Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 23, 2011 11:59 AM (0M3AQ)
oh god, i missed the L key by one. Fuck I'm a retard unlike King Mittens
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (FKQng)
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The reason many people think Romney has a shot at beating Obama is because of the huge # of polls showing ... him beating Obama. Or tied.
As opposed to the large # of polls showing most of the other Repubs losing badly.
You can argue these polls are meaningless this early. But it's real data.
CAC has been posting the polling data here pretty regularly.
As opposed to the large # of polls showing most of the other Repubs losing badly.
You can argue these polls are meaningless this early. But it's real data.
CAC has been posting the polling data here pretty regularly.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (QcFbt)
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The only thing that will resolve this pressing issue is a ten thousand word long post by Ace explaining to us what is funny and what is not funny.
He's been watching SNL since he was, like,5!
He's been watching SNL since he was, like,5!
Posted by: garrett at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (f7VXx)
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Fine, flip flop is not the right word then. Jesus. Argumentative much? Over Mitt Fucking Romney. Imagine that!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (pLTLS
Hey lacey, if I were to ask you to think up a Perry position you don't really care for/are critical of do you think you could come up with one? More than one? I bet you could.
I don't think Romney supporters could do that for their candidate.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 23, 2011 12:04 PM (pLTLS
Hey lacey, if I were to ask you to think up a Perry position you don't really care for/are critical of do you think you could come up with one? More than one? I bet you could.
I don't think Romney supporters could do that for their candidate.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (GULKT)
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Pssst. Accidental le$bian trani porn on the next blog over. Pass it on.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (OBDWE)
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Mitt Romney 2012: My first name is Mitt until it isn't!
In all seriousness, it just bugs the crap out of me what Romney gets away with in debates. He'll pounce on someone for not being conservative, but like the video shows, he really does not have a leg to stand on.
In all seriousness, it just bugs the crap out of me what Romney gets away with in debates. He'll pounce on someone for not being conservative, but like the video shows, he really does not have a leg to stand on.
Posted by: David of PA at November 23, 2011 12:08 PM (HUxtO)
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It was unintentionally funny because Romney is a flip-flopper but I do not feel he was deliberately lying (in this case). It was his attempt at making at joke.
Posted by: Miss'80s at November 23, 2011 12:08 PM (d6QMz)
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hell many a child has been stuck with a family name, you know the blood line thing.
but hey, Mitt's hair is too pretty. mess it up. that's my gripe.
but hey, Mitt's hair is too pretty. mess it up. that's my gripe.
Posted by: willow at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Any von Moltke you care to choose at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (RD7QR)
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Holy shit. If this is where the level of discourse has fallen to, then we'd better get used to 4 more years of SCOAMF.
I don't like Mitt, but there appears to be one possibly viable alternative in Newt. Not sure Newt can beat SCOAMF.
The only damned thing that matters is beating SCOAMF. If you believe otherwise, then you support SCOAMF while he laughs his ass off at your stupidity.
OMFG.
I can't believe in a year like this, with the strong tail wind we have, we are going to do everything we possibly can do to lose this.
I can't fucking believe this.
So, please, go ahead. Support the goddamned unelectable candidates. Give SCOAMF his second term.
I don't like Mitt, but there appears to be one possibly viable alternative in Newt. Not sure Newt can beat SCOAMF.
The only damned thing that matters is beating SCOAMF. If you believe otherwise, then you support SCOAMF while he laughs his ass off at your stupidity.
OMFG.
I can't believe in a year like this, with the strong tail wind we have, we are going to do everything we possibly can do to lose this.
I can't fucking believe this.
So, please, go ahead. Support the goddamned unelectable candidates. Give SCOAMF his second term.
Posted by: John Galt at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (9NQ6I)
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Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:06 PM (YXmuI)
Why can't it be a little of both?
Even a failed joke can be revealing or at least reinforcing about someone's character.
Again, if it were any of the others it wouldn't even be funny but because it's Mitt, it's funny and an unintentional reminder of something more serious.
It's simply a funny reminder that Mitt is so inauthentic.
Why can't it be a little of both?
Even a failed joke can be revealing or at least reinforcing about someone's character.
Again, if it were any of the others it wouldn't even be funny but because it's Mitt, it's funny and an unintentional reminder of something more serious.
It's simply a funny reminder that Mitt is so inauthentic.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (dw7rB)
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BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
*It's Winona
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 23, 2011 12:02 PM (oBrVT)
So Mitt will now be blamed for the downfall of Raylan Givens?I better back Herman Cain!
BTW - Will-I-Mitt also has a Secret Mormon Temple name you gentiles arn't allowed to know.*
*It's Winona
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 23, 2011 12:02 PM (oBrVT)
So Mitt will now be blamed for the downfall of Raylan Givens?I better back Herman Cain!
Posted by: Art Mullen at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (AM+sr)
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I woulda bet my leftnut that this would've made a post here the other day, but it didn't.
"I tasted a beer and tried a cigarette once as a wayward teenager, and never did it again."
--Mitt Romney in his interview with People
This is something with which to mock Romney. It shows how much of a square he is. Certainly not a partaker in the AoS Lifestyletm.
I woulda bet my leftnut that this would've made a post here the other day, but it didn't.
"I tasted a beer and tried a cigarette once as a wayward teenager, and never did it again."
--Mitt Romney in his interview with People
This is something with which to mock Romney. It shows how much of a square he is. Certainly not a partaker in the AoS Lifestyletm.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (sqkOB)
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At college I met a guy named Richie Holder. At least he desperately wanted to be Richie Holder. We couldn't allow that.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (OBDWE)
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232 It was unintentionally funny because Romney is a flip-flopper but I do not feel he was deliberately lying (in this case). It was his attempt at making at joke.
Posted by: Miss'80s at November 23, 2011 12:08 PM (d6QMz)
Since it didn't get a laugh, I'm surprised he didn't come back with a selection of two alternative punch lines.
Posted by: Miss'80s at November 23, 2011 12:08 PM (d6QMz)
Since it didn't get a laugh, I'm surprised he didn't come back with a selection of two alternative punch lines.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (OlN4e)
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I'd like to invade France, and steal all their wine. and maybe their men for a nite.
Posted by: willow at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (h+qn8)
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Why do you have to send me to redstate? Ace and a lot of the cob-loggers are still Perrykrishnas and quite reasonable. Whereas all Iget from Romneybots is the old Palinista meme that if the savior isnt successfullit must bethe fault of the electorate. Its a lil bit like Brechts government desolving the people and elect a new one. I dont see that from Perrykrishnas at least not on this blog.
That is where the highest concentration of Perry supporters are to be found. But I've encountered over the top sensitivity to criticisms of Perry here as well.
In fact the very term "Perrykrishna" (aside from Perry rhyming with Hari) arose because of the almost religious like fervor that so many people have and to a certain extent still have for him.
There is plenty of it out there, and it is very reminiscent of Palin zealotry.
That is where the highest concentration of Perry supporters are to be found. But I've encountered over the top sensitivity to criticisms of Perry here as well.
In fact the very term "Perrykrishna" (aside from Perry rhyming with Hari) arose because of the almost religious like fervor that so many people have and to a certain extent still have for him.
There is plenty of it out there, and it is very reminiscent of Palin zealotry.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 23, 2011 12:10 PM (b68Df)
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"Wolf Issac Blitzer has said that he has frequently been asked about his name, which has been characterized as seemingly "made-for-TV". Blitzer explains that his surname goes back for generations, and his first name, 'Wolf', is the same first name as his maternal grandfather. In writing for several Israeli newspapers in Washington, Blitzer has used the names Zev Blitzer and Zev Barak."
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 12:11 PM (JMsOK)
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Fuckin' Primaries! How do they work?!?
Posted by: insane voter posse at November 23, 2011 12:11 PM (IfkGz)
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Blasphemers!
Thou shalt not taketh the name of the Mitt (pbuh) in vain.
Thou shalt not SPEAK of the taking of the name of the Mitt (pbuh) in vain.
In fact , don't even use the earthly name of the Mitt(pbuh), except when constructing poetic posts of rapturous praise to his hair and his marvelous openness to change and flexibility on issues.
mmmm Om padi Romney hum
mmmm Om padi Romney hum
Thou shalt not taketh the name of the Mitt (pbuh) in vain.
Thou shalt not SPEAK of the taking of the name of the Mitt (pbuh) in vain.
In fact , don't even use the earthly name of the Mitt(pbuh), except when constructing poetic posts of rapturous praise to his hair and his marvelous openness to change and flexibility on issues.
mmmm Om padi Romney hum
mmmm Om padi Romney hum
Posted by: jeffbepolyundeadchitownjerkenroyallpetunia at November 23, 2011 12:11 PM (Zw/H7)
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So, please, go ahead. Support the goddamned unelectable candidates. Give SCOAMF his second term.
Posted by: John Galt at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (9NQ6I)
So we elect Mitt... what changes?
Posted by: John Galt at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (9NQ6I)
So we elect Mitt... what changes?
Posted by: Brock O'Bama at November 23, 2011 12:11 PM (n1JN0)
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My candidate didn't put on the stompy boots and announce her run
I meant "your" as in "Democrats'" Since you're all happy about being a Democrat when these threads come up.
Obviously I shouldn't try intentional comedy either.
I meant "your" as in "Democrats'" Since you're all happy about being a Democrat when these threads come up.
Obviously I shouldn't try intentional comedy either.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:11 PM (8y9MW)
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What a ridiculous blog. About as ridiculous the clown show competing against Mitt Romney.
What a ridiculous blog. About as ridiculous the clown show competing against Mitt Romney.
Posted by: Winning at November 23, 2011 12:12 PM (80nuu)
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I'm no Romney fan, but hey - Wolf asked a non-serious question, and Romney gave him a non-serious answer back. Good for him!
The real question is Wolf's motives. Was he
(a) Narcissistic, making it all about him
(b) Juvenile, making fun of candidates' names, or
(c) Trying to embarrass Romney by bringing up the "Willard" thing.
(d) All of the above
Personally, I'm going with choice(e): "(a) and (b)".
I'm no Romney fan, but hey - Wolf asked a non-serious question, and Romney gave him a non-serious answer back. Good for him!
The real question is Wolf's motives. Was he
(a) Narcissistic, making it all about him
(b) Juvenile, making fun of candidates' names, or
(c) Trying to embarrass Romney by bringing up the "Willard" thing.
(d) All of the above
Personally, I'm going with choice(e): "(a) and (b)".
Posted by: Optimizer at November 23, 2011 12:12 PM (As94z)
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Yeah, ncj needs to own being a Democrat.
Palin is not a Democrat. She's hated by most Democrats.
Palin is not a Democrat. She's hated by most Democrats.
Posted by: Y-not, dirty papist at November 23, 2011 12:12 PM (5H6zj)
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Why was I banned again, ace?
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:13 PM (KC1L1)
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"Yes there are some folks who want Perry to be a factor (obviously that includes Ace) but he's not and I doubt he will be. "
As I said last night in the liveblog, if Perry doesn't make the top 3 in Iowa he is finished.
As far as Romney, anyone who supports the individual mandate and socialized medicine isn't a conservative. No matter how many times they try to say they are one.
Vote your candidate in the primary, vote the nominee in the general. Or else you support the SCOAMF. It really is that simple.
As I said last night in the liveblog, if Perry doesn't make the top 3 in Iowa he is finished.
As far as Romney, anyone who supports the individual mandate and socialized medicine isn't a conservative. No matter how many times they try to say they are one.
Vote your candidate in the primary, vote the nominee in the general. Or else you support the SCOAMF. It really is that simple.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 23, 2011 12:13 PM (kaOJx)
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227 The reason many people think Romney has a shot at beating Obama is because of the huge # of polls showing ... him beating Obama. Or tied. As opposed to the large # of polls showing most of the other Repubs losing badly. You can argue these polls are meaningless this early. But it's real data. CAC has been posting the polling data here pretty regularly.
Clubber, don't the polls show him with 7% of Republicans? Is there some huge unknown group who wants to vote for Perry hiding somewhere? Are they in the 51st to 57th States or something?
Clubber, don't the polls show him with 7% of Republicans? Is there some huge unknown group who wants to vote for Perry hiding somewhere? Are they in the 51st to 57th States or something?
Posted by: Sub-Tard Backhoe at November 23, 2011 12:13 PM (0M3AQ)
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234 I don't think Romney supporters could do that for their candidate.Romneycare. Next.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (YXmuI)
Congratulations you're about the only one. Usually they're making excuses for him about that and claiming it was actually all the democrats in MA's fault.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:09 PM (YXmuI)
Congratulations you're about the only one. Usually they're making excuses for him about that and claiming it was actually all the democrats in MA's fault.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 12:13 PM (GULKT)
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Being a twice banned annoying fucknut is insufficent reason?
Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 12:13 PM (IfkGz)
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Sooo, what does everyone think about Newt saying that we really couldn't be pro family if we wanted to deport illegal aliens with families?
Posted by: robtr at November 23, 2011 12:14 PM (MtwBb)
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toby, I apologized for my previous transgressions and was on good behavior.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (KC1L1)
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I have a secret Papist name, too. You get it in a special ceremony where you reject the Devil. It's all weird and sexual, too, you know. They only give you your secret Papist name in the special ceremony once you start growing hair on your balls or vajayjay.
And you get a magic necklace, too! And you learn special secret magic spells to recite as you use the necklace.
It's all very dark, sexual, weird and druidic.
Luckily, America would never elect some damn dirty Papist cult freak to the Presidency. I'd tell you my secret Papist name, but that is only to be used when we finally have enough illegal Mexicans here to take over the country by force.
You will only ever hear our secret Papist names when we climb through your windows to claim what is rightfully ours. Until then we await orders from the Pope
.
(The new Emergency Broadcast System was actually installed by the Vatican to disseminate the orders! Shhhh.)
And you get a magic necklace, too! And you learn special secret magic spells to recite as you use the necklace.
It's all very dark, sexual, weird and druidic.
Luckily, America would never elect some damn dirty Papist cult freak to the Presidency. I'd tell you my secret Papist name, but that is only to be used when we finally have enough illegal Mexicans here to take over the country by force.
You will only ever hear our secret Papist names when we climb through your windows to claim what is rightfully ours. Until then we await orders from the Pope
.
(The new Emergency Broadcast System was actually installed by the Vatican to disseminate the orders! Shhhh.)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (QcFbt)
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Why can't it be a little of both?
Drew-
It can. I think (I hope) you know I'm not the hyperbolic sort. I didn't know how to take this initially, and frankly wouldn't have cared if you had said it was a misfired joke. But if you are going to claim that there is a least a little "there" there, then folks will get worked up as they defend whomever they like and attack those they don't. It's a bit disingenuous to then pull the "Ok, so plenty of people think having a little fun with serial flip-flopper Willard Mitt is off limits" stuff. I've made plenty of comments and jokes not to Romney's credit. And now, on to other earthshaking news.
Drew-
It can. I think (I hope) you know I'm not the hyperbolic sort. I didn't know how to take this initially, and frankly wouldn't have cared if you had said it was a misfired joke. But if you are going to claim that there is a least a little "there" there, then folks will get worked up as they defend whomever they like and attack those they don't. It's a bit disingenuous to then pull the "Ok, so plenty of people think having a little fun with serial flip-flopper Willard Mitt is off limits" stuff. I've made plenty of comments and jokes not to Romney's credit. And now, on to other earthshaking news.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (YXmuI)
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"Sooo, what does everyone think about Newt saying that we really couldn't be pro family if we wanted to deport illegal aliens with families?"
Everyone thinks it is disgusting a la Rick Perry's "don't have a heart" nonsense. They just don't realize it because they're desperate.
Everyone thinks it is disgusting a la Rick Perry's "don't have a heart" nonsense. They just don't realize it because they're desperate.
Posted by: NotALibertarian at November 23, 2011 12:16 PM (psns8)
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I had an uncle named Adolf, and he never denied it or flip-flopped like a certain flip-floppity Rino, (whose-supporters-are-all-butt-hurt), but shall not be named.
Posted by: Fritz at November 23, 2011 12:16 PM (/ZZCn)
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I apologized for my previous transgressions and was on good behavior.
It matters not. The onus is on the host of the party to invite you back. He has not. You're an unwelcome party crasher.
Get a life outside the intrawebs.
It matters not. The onus is on the host of the party to invite you back. He has not. You're an unwelcome party crasher.
Get a life outside the intrawebs.
Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 12:16 PM (IfkGz)
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Why was I banned again, ace?
When you get banned it forces you to a new wifi spot and Ace gets paid by the owner of the one you were at last and your a dick. But mostly that you're a dick.
When you get banned it forces you to a new wifi spot and Ace gets paid by the owner of the one you were at last and your a dick. But mostly that you're a dick.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 23, 2011 12:17 PM (tf9Ne)
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257 Sooo, what does everyone think about Newt saying that we really couldn't be pro family if we wanted to deport illegal aliens with families?
Posted by: robtr at November 23, 2011 12:14 PM (MtwBb)
I really hate Salamander, I just hate him less than Mitt.
Posted by: robtr at November 23, 2011 12:14 PM (MtwBb)
I really hate Salamander, I just hate him less than Mitt.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 12:17 PM (OlN4e)
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258 toby, I apologized for my previous transgressions and was on good behavior.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (KC1L1)
You're banned you fuckhead. And you had even said if you weren't wanted here you would respect that and leave. Yet you continue to come back after twice getting the biggest "get your ass outta here" response you can get. You don't get to sneak back in and claim you are on good behavior, because you are not on good behavior.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (KC1L1)
You're banned you fuckhead. And you had even said if you weren't wanted here you would respect that and leave. Yet you continue to come back after twice getting the biggest "get your ass outta here" response you can get. You don't get to sneak back in and claim you are on good behavior, because you are not on good behavior.
Posted by: buzzion at November 23, 2011 12:18 PM (GULKT)
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You don't get to sneak back in and claim you are on good behavior, because you are not on good behavior.
I wish this had happened on the previous thread. It's the perfect analogue for the "Illegal immigrant who hasn't broken the law..."
I wish this had happened on the previous thread. It's the perfect analogue for the "Illegal immigrant who hasn't broken the law..."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (8y9MW)
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Drew, didn't you say that you would prefer Gingrich over Romney? In that case, how do you justify singling Mitt out for criticism as a flip-flopper, when Newt has changed positions about many times as Mitt (and he doesn't have the excuse of having once governed a deep blue state).
Posted by: Jon at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (gkCyJ)
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Mitt Romney is so damn electable guys. Just like John McCain.
Posted by: LP at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (sUHGs)
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I'm not excited about a likely Romney nomination. I think he's solid, respectable, conservative enough on most issues, appalling on a few.
Reggie1971, #124: "Maybe....just maybe....he was a right of center guy living in
Massachussetts who tempered his position to make himself politically
viable."
Yep. I spent most of my life there. Romney was well to the left of me, but anyone who wasn't was never going to be elected. (Bill Weld broke the Democratic lock on the governorship by following Dukakis, and by being to the left of his old-school right-wing politically incorrect Democratic opponent.) He did some good things, from my perspective. He also begat ObamaCare and doesn't regret it.
I understand neither hating his guts, nor getting seriously offended on his behalf over a little harmless snark.
Reggie1971, #124: "Maybe....just maybe....he was a right of center guy living in
Massachussetts who tempered his position to make himself politically
viable."
Yep. I spent most of my life there. Romney was well to the left of me, but anyone who wasn't was never going to be elected. (Bill Weld broke the Democratic lock on the governorship by following Dukakis, and by being to the left of his old-school right-wing politically incorrect Democratic opponent.) He did some good things, from my perspective. He also begat ObamaCare and doesn't regret it.
I understand neither hating his guts, nor getting seriously offended on his behalf over a little harmless snark.
Posted by: JPS at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (yK9FQ)
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Fine, toby, fine. I thought I added another perspective to the discussions here. But if that's the way ace feels, then I will respect it.
signing out,
proudonkey
signing out,
proudonkey
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (KC1L1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (sqkOB)
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Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (YXmuI)
The "there there" is simply it plays into things a lot of people know and dislike about the guy.
Again if it were Perry or Cain, it wouldn't be anything at all because it's not part of their persona.
For me it was like, "the guy can't get out of his own way and comes off as a liar when he's trying to tell a joke".
The "there there" is simply it plays into things a lot of people know and dislike about the guy.
Again if it were Perry or Cain, it wouldn't be anything at all because it's not part of their persona.
For me it was like, "the guy can't get out of his own way and comes off as a liar when he's trying to tell a joke".
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:21 PM (dw7rB)
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271 Fine, toby, fine. I thought I added another perspective to the discussions here. But if that's the way ace feels, then I will respect it. signing out, proudonkey
Another perspective? WTF can you see with your head a mile up your ass?
Another perspective? WTF can you see with your head a mile up your ass?
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 12:21 PM (OlN4e)
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You add nothing, Dunce. You are the OWS of Ace's place.
Posted by: toby928© has plans and schemes at November 23, 2011 12:22 PM (IfkGz)
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Romney = Superman
YouTube = Kryptonite
In the age before the digital or analog recording of audio, Romney would totally pwn, man!
TECHNOLOGY IS HELPING THE LIBERAL MSM ATTACK ROMNEY! TECHNOLOGY IS A RINO!
YouTube = Kryptonite
In the age before the digital or analog recording of audio, Romney would totally pwn, man!
TECHNOLOGY IS HELPING THE LIBERAL MSM ATTACK ROMNEY! TECHNOLOGY IS A RINO!
Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 12:22 PM (ES9R7)
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@172
Hey Inspector Asshole (aptly named I might add, at least the surname)
Chill out.
Have a drink.
Baste a turkey.
Hey Inspector Asshole (aptly named I might add, at least the surname)
Chill out.
Have a drink.
Baste a turkey.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 12:22 PM (Xm1aB)
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259
I have a secret Papist name, too. You get it in a special ceremony where
you reject the Devil. It's all weird and sexual, too, you know. They
only give you your secret Papist name in the special ceremony once you
start growing hair on your balls or vajayjay.
And you get a magic necklace, too! And you learn special secret magic spells to recite as you use the necklace.
It's all very dark, sexual, weird and druidic.
Luckily, America would never elect some damn dirty Papist cult freak to
the Presidency. I'd tell you my secret Papist name, but that is only to
be used when we finally have enough illegal Mexicans here to take over
the country by force.
You will only ever hear our secret Papist names when we climb through
your windows to claim what is rightfully ours. Until then we await
orders from the Pope
.
(The new Emergency Broadcast System was actually installed by the Vatican to disseminate the orders! Shhhh.)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (QcFbt)
Holy shit, that is something like what happened to me when I was an Episcopalian. At about the time my voice started to change, we had a ceremony where the minister made us kneel in front of him, he then put his hands on our head and said some words. After that we were able to go up in front of the church and kneel before the minister and hold our hands out to receive the "body of Christ", then we are given wine. We don't get to steal shit though.
I have a secret Papist name, too. You get it in a special ceremony where
you reject the Devil. It's all weird and sexual, too, you know. They
only give you your secret Papist name in the special ceremony once you
start growing hair on your balls or vajayjay.
And you get a magic necklace, too! And you learn special secret magic spells to recite as you use the necklace.
It's all very dark, sexual, weird and druidic.
Luckily, America would never elect some damn dirty Papist cult freak to
the Presidency. I'd tell you my secret Papist name, but that is only to
be used when we finally have enough illegal Mexicans here to take over
the country by force.
You will only ever hear our secret Papist names when we climb through
your windows to claim what is rightfully ours. Until then we await
orders from the Pope
.
(The new Emergency Broadcast System was actually installed by the Vatican to disseminate the orders! Shhhh.)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:15 PM (QcFbt)
Holy shit, that is something like what happened to me when I was an Episcopalian. At about the time my voice started to change, we had a ceremony where the minister made us kneel in front of him, he then put his hands on our head and said some words. After that we were able to go up in front of the church and kneel before the minister and hold our hands out to receive the "body of Christ", then we are given wine. We don't get to steal shit though.
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 23, 2011 12:23 PM (AM+sr)
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two Amnesty shills arguing over who isn't one...
Posted by: shoey at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (jdOk/)
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@273
Comes off as a liar?
For stating his well-known, commonly-used first name in a botched joke attempt?
I don't like Mitt. I agree he's a flip-flopper.
But I just don't get your reaction.
Comes off as a liar?
For stating his well-known, commonly-used first name in a botched joke attempt?
I don't like Mitt. I agree he's a flip-flopper.
But I just don't get your reaction.
Posted by: Dave at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (Xm1aB)
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For me it was like, "the guy can't get out of his own way and comes off as a liar when he's trying to tell a joke". FIFY
Have a good TGiving, Drew.
Have a good TGiving, Drew.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (YXmuI)
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@253
"As far as Romney, anyone who supports the individual mandate and socialized medicine isn't a conservative. No matter how many times they try to say they are one."
See.....this is the ridiculous Nonsense I just don't understand. Romney has said that he does not beleive that the Individual mandate is the right thing to do for a Federal Government Run Heal Care Plan, He has said he doesn't beleive in Federal Government run Health Care, and he has said that he will immediately overturn ObamaCare thru Execetive Order, by allowing all states to "opt out."
So your poistion is that he is lieing? Well that just F'n great! Now I know why we call ourselves Morons!
"As far as Romney, anyone who supports the individual mandate and socialized medicine isn't a conservative. No matter how many times they try to say they are one."
See.....this is the ridiculous Nonsense I just don't understand. Romney has said that he does not beleive that the Individual mandate is the right thing to do for a Federal Government Run Heal Care Plan, He has said he doesn't beleive in Federal Government run Health Care, and he has said that he will immediately overturn ObamaCare thru Execetive Order, by allowing all states to "opt out."
So your poistion is that he is lieing? Well that just F'n great! Now I know why we call ourselves Morons!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (JMsOK)
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Don't you wonder why that YouTube clip was ended so abruptly? Sure you do.
Posted by: polynikes- Texan for Romney at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (LNRLz)
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I don't give a shit what his name is or what his positions on anything are if he can beat Obama.
Posted by: kansas at November 23, 2011 12:26 PM (mka2b)
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MEMORY LANE IS A RINO! MEMORY LANE WANTS AMNESTY! IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE LIBERAL MSM! THE ABILITY TO RECALL PAST EVENTS WANTS NEWT TO BE THE NOMINEE SO OBAMA WILL WIN!
Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 12:26 PM (ES9R7)
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Posted by: Jon at November 23, 2011 12:19 PM (gkCyJ)
Read the post before this. I went after him for his immigration answer last night. I admit I'm leaning to Newt for lack of a better option and have said many, many times what a flawed candidate he is.
I also went after him when he attacked Ryan and flipped on Libya.
Read the post before this. I went after him for his immigration answer last night. I admit I'm leaning to Newt for lack of a better option and have said many, many times what a flawed candidate he is.
I also went after him when he attacked Ryan and flipped on Libya.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:27 PM (dw7rB)
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So now you're admitting you're Palin Steele, loser?You're banned because you're a three-legged fuckstool.
And you'll be back like a bad lunch. Because you're a three-legged fuckstool.
And you'll be back like a bad lunch. Because you're a three-legged fuckstool.
Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 23, 2011 12:27 PM (cBVAS)
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Good thing Obama is not a flip flopper and has great stand up lines. What? That's not Obama?
Posted by: kansas at November 23, 2011 12:27 PM (mka2b)
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The reason many people think Romney has a shot at beating Obama is because of the huge # of polls showing ... him beating Obama. Or tied.
As opposed to the large # of polls showing most of the other Repubs losing badly.
You can argue these polls are meaningless this early. But it's real data.
CAC has been posting the polling data here pretty regularly.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (QcFbt)
It is the underlying numbers that should push that. The concern is that Mitt Romney will lose a large bloc of Republicans a la McCain in 2008- but the data isn't there to back it up. Hold back the "OMGZ HE ONLY GETS 22% IN PRIMARY!" for two seconds.
We aren't talking about the primary- we are talking about the GENERAL ELECTION against Obama.
In ALL general election polling with large samples, Romney does a better job of uniting his party than Obama- in more recent polls getting 89-91% of the R's- more than McCain in 2008 or Dole in 1996.
So the "yeah but the Rs wont turn out", is bull. Yes, there may be 8-9% that don't. But when you have a candidate winning the Indies and stealing a sizeable chunk off the Democrats, you win.
Reagan actually had a minor issue with this in reverse in 1980, fears that moderate Anderson would steal off enough R's to prevent a Reagan victory. Reagan won over independents and the Reagan Democrats enough to offset any liberal Republican loss.
Another thing- while the MFM polls will push what they want, companies like Rasmussen, SurveyUSA, Mason Dixon, and PPP are PAID to do accurate polling. There is no need to question an AVERAGE of polling by firms paid to do so- they are paid by different political organizations and where they all find consensus that result is 99/100 accurate.
So why does Romney poll better than the rest?
It has nothing to do with him being a moderate at all, and that is where some of his supporters trying to push his "appeal to the middle" meme are dead wrong.
Romney has been a de-facto candidate for President since 2007. He never dropped out of the public eye nor stopped his political presence. So when Obama's numbers dove, Romney (and Huckabee in polling earlier until he declared he would not run again) had strong numbers against the President. It is the option that you know. The challenge for the anti-Mitts then is to express how THEY are the better option against Obama, and if they control their own campaign and messaging (which Cain, Perry, and Bachmann all failed to do) their numbers will equal or best Romney.
When Perry first threw his hat in the ring, before the debate stumbling, his polling versus Obama was near-identical to Romney's. He had control of what he was in the eyes of the public and seemed a viable alternative to the President.
This isn't some mass polling conspiracy against the rest- otherwise none of the other candidates would have ever polled even close, and several did (PPP's poll of PA earlier this year showed near-uniform preference for Republicans over Obama, whether it was Romney, Huck, Santorum, etc).
As opposed to the large # of polls showing most of the other Repubs losing badly.
You can argue these polls are meaningless this early. But it's real data.
CAC has been posting the polling data here pretty regularly.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:07 PM (QcFbt)
It is the underlying numbers that should push that. The concern is that Mitt Romney will lose a large bloc of Republicans a la McCain in 2008- but the data isn't there to back it up. Hold back the "OMGZ HE ONLY GETS 22% IN PRIMARY!" for two seconds.
We aren't talking about the primary- we are talking about the GENERAL ELECTION against Obama.
In ALL general election polling with large samples, Romney does a better job of uniting his party than Obama- in more recent polls getting 89-91% of the R's- more than McCain in 2008 or Dole in 1996.
So the "yeah but the Rs wont turn out", is bull. Yes, there may be 8-9% that don't. But when you have a candidate winning the Indies and stealing a sizeable chunk off the Democrats, you win.
Reagan actually had a minor issue with this in reverse in 1980, fears that moderate Anderson would steal off enough R's to prevent a Reagan victory. Reagan won over independents and the Reagan Democrats enough to offset any liberal Republican loss.
Another thing- while the MFM polls will push what they want, companies like Rasmussen, SurveyUSA, Mason Dixon, and PPP are PAID to do accurate polling. There is no need to question an AVERAGE of polling by firms paid to do so- they are paid by different political organizations and where they all find consensus that result is 99/100 accurate.
So why does Romney poll better than the rest?
It has nothing to do with him being a moderate at all, and that is where some of his supporters trying to push his "appeal to the middle" meme are dead wrong.
Romney has been a de-facto candidate for President since 2007. He never dropped out of the public eye nor stopped his political presence. So when Obama's numbers dove, Romney (and Huckabee in polling earlier until he declared he would not run again) had strong numbers against the President. It is the option that you know. The challenge for the anti-Mitts then is to express how THEY are the better option against Obama, and if they control their own campaign and messaging (which Cain, Perry, and Bachmann all failed to do) their numbers will equal or best Romney.
When Perry first threw his hat in the ring, before the debate stumbling, his polling versus Obama was near-identical to Romney's. He had control of what he was in the eyes of the public and seemed a viable alternative to the President.
This isn't some mass polling conspiracy against the rest- otherwise none of the other candidates would have ever polled even close, and several did (PPP's poll of PA earlier this year showed near-uniform preference for Republicans over Obama, whether it was Romney, Huck, Santorum, etc).
Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2011 12:28 PM (JEVge)
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Posted by: polynikes- Texan for Romney at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (LNRLz)
Because when the host actually managed to force Romney to actually take a stand on a controversial issue, Romney began weeping openly and his controller chip exploded?
Just a guess.
Because when the host actually managed to force Romney to actually take a stand on a controversial issue, Romney began weeping openly and his controller chip exploded?
Just a guess.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 23, 2011 12:29 PM (ES9R7)
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Sorry for that long last post, by the way.
Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2011 12:30 PM (JEVge)
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I will post once a month seeking ace's forgiveness and removal of ban (I really like this site and its bloggers, ie drew, monty, ace, etc and some of the more moderate commenters). I will not post beyond that. Maybe ace will see a change of heart and give me another chance.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:30 PM (KC1L1)
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". Romney has said that he does not beleive that the Individual mandate is the right thing to do for a Federal Government Run Heal Care Plan, He has said he doesn't beleive in Federal Government run Health Care, and he has said that he will immediately overturn ObamaCare thru Execetive Order, by allowing all states to "opt out.""
Romney says a lot of things. Things that are different than his past actions indicate he will actually do.
He signed off on socialized medicine with the individual mandate in Mass. He has never waivered in his support for the plan that was used as the blueprint for Obamacare.
I understand you are ok with Mitt's previous actions. Fine, support your candidate. But don't ask me to support him until he is the GOP nominee, because it isn't going to happen.
Mitt would be better in the White House than having Barry get a 2nd term. Better, but who knows by how much.
Romney says a lot of things. Things that are different than his past actions indicate he will actually do.
He signed off on socialized medicine with the individual mandate in Mass. He has never waivered in his support for the plan that was used as the blueprint for Obamacare.
I understand you are ok with Mitt's previous actions. Fine, support your candidate. But don't ask me to support him until he is the GOP nominee, because it isn't going to happen.
Mitt would be better in the White House than having Barry get a 2nd term. Better, but who knows by how much.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 23, 2011 12:33 PM (kaOJx)
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292 I will post once a month seeking ace's forgiveness and removal of ban (I really like this site and its bloggers, ie drew, monty, ace, etc and some of the more moderate commenters). I will not post beyond that. Maybe ace will see a change of heart and give me another chance.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:30 PM (KC1L1)
Man, your like antibiotic resistant clap, aren't you.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 23, 2011 12:30 PM (KC1L1)
Man, your like antibiotic resistant clap, aren't you.
Posted by: maddogg at November 23, 2011 12:34 PM (OlN4e)
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Anyone But Mitzi Obamney!
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at November 23, 2011 12:41 PM (qndXR)
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@293
Dick,
"He signed off on socialized medicine with the individual mandate in Mass"
He was a Governor of a State that Demanded it. He was voted out, because he attempted to veto the changes the Leftists State Congress made to his plan, that truly made it Socialized Medicine.
So let me get this stright......you know Mitt is going to win the Nod, and your going to vote for him regardless, but as of right now he is POS? That's Fantastic! Way to display your unwavering character!
Dick,
"He signed off on socialized medicine with the individual mandate in Mass"
He was a Governor of a State that Demanded it. He was voted out, because he attempted to veto the changes the Leftists State Congress made to his plan, that truly made it Socialized Medicine.
So let me get this stright......you know Mitt is going to win the Nod, and your going to vote for him regardless, but as of right now he is POS? That's Fantastic! Way to display your unwavering character!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 12:42 PM (JMsOK)
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See, I used my magic Papist power to summon CAC merely by mentioning his name! Tremble before my might vatical powers!
What impresses me most about Romney's polling #s is his competitiveness in the midwest, especially the Democrat midwest (Penn, Wisc, Minn, Mich, etc).
That's a huge deal if Romney can win any of those states.
All the other candidates path to victory appears to be a replay of the 2000 race, winning back the red states Obama won in 2008 and squeaking out a narrow victory.
I hope CAC or someone can run some data-rich analytic pieces during election season. There's not much gained by dueling anecdotes of nobody-will-vote-for-candidate-X.
What impresses me most about Romney's polling #s is his competitiveness in the midwest, especially the Democrat midwest (Penn, Wisc, Minn, Mich, etc).
That's a huge deal if Romney can win any of those states.
All the other candidates path to victory appears to be a replay of the 2000 race, winning back the red states Obama won in 2008 and squeaking out a narrow victory.
I hope CAC or someone can run some data-rich analytic pieces during election season. There's not much gained by dueling anecdotes of nobody-will-vote-for-candidate-X.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 23, 2011 12:42 PM (QcFbt)
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Ron Paul is clearly the only normal one on stage. Yes, he has two first names. But they are both normal names.
In jest, I made the mistake of writing in a blog comment section that people with two first names weren't trustworthy. From the flaming remarks that followed, I probably would've been strung up in meat space.
Ron Paul is clearly the only normal one on stage. Yes, he has two first names. But they are both normal names.
In jest, I made the mistake of writing in a blog comment section that people with two first names weren't trustworthy. From the flaming remarks that followed, I probably would've been strung up in meat space.
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Posted by: polynikes- Texan for Romney at November 23, 2011 12:25 PM (LNRLz)
Nope, someone put the full link up on Twitter later and I watched it. It's a fair clip. I'll try and find that link again but it's what he said.
Nope, someone put the full link up on Twitter later and I watched it. It's a fair clip. I'll try and find that link again but it's what he said.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:45 PM (dw7rB)
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As far as Romney, anyone who supports the individual mandate and socialized medicine isn't a conservative. No matter how many times they try to say they are one.
Romney defends RomneyCare from a federalist perspective which--if viewed in context--is a very conservative place to be. Each state, governing its own affairs, comes up with its own approach to various problems shared to greater and lesser degrees by all other states, making each state a kind of societal laboratory. Some of these approaches work, some don't. The ones that work are, by and large, adopted by other states until the practice--whatever it is--is universally adopted. Thus, Romney's argument is valid insofar as it goes. It hits the rocks, however, when you look at RomneyCare in Massachusetts, which has been a failure. Why? Because revenue shortfalls in the Massachusetts plan would be made up with federal government monies. It was not self-sustainable. So when Obama's people used it as a template, they seemingly never bothered to ask who or what would underwrite a federalized version of RomneyCare. The money to fund a national healthcare plan--by necessity--needs to come from additional taxes.
As both Gingrich and Romney have pointed out, the individual mandate idea was promoted by the Heritage Foundation several years ago, which was then considered a wellspring of conservative ideas, although it has--in my view--become so embedded in establishment republicanism that calling it conservative now seems like a stretch.If the idea came from Heritage back then, though, it had the conservative imprimatur.
In short, both Romney and Gingrich can claim to be conservative, but only within a certain frame of reference and historical perspective. Federalism is the oldest idea of the Republic. The healthcare mandate was born in a Republican think-tank, although later discarded because of its incompatibility with constitutional principles. Think of federalism as 'classical conservativism', if you like, as opposed to the borderline Bircher bullshit coming from the Conservative Purity Brigade. Think of the individual mandate as a bad idea dropped by Republicans and later picked up and dusted off by Democrats.
Romney defends RomneyCare from a federalist perspective which--if viewed in context--is a very conservative place to be. Each state, governing its own affairs, comes up with its own approach to various problems shared to greater and lesser degrees by all other states, making each state a kind of societal laboratory. Some of these approaches work, some don't. The ones that work are, by and large, adopted by other states until the practice--whatever it is--is universally adopted. Thus, Romney's argument is valid insofar as it goes. It hits the rocks, however, when you look at RomneyCare in Massachusetts, which has been a failure. Why? Because revenue shortfalls in the Massachusetts plan would be made up with federal government monies. It was not self-sustainable. So when Obama's people used it as a template, they seemingly never bothered to ask who or what would underwrite a federalized version of RomneyCare. The money to fund a national healthcare plan--by necessity--needs to come from additional taxes.
As both Gingrich and Romney have pointed out, the individual mandate idea was promoted by the Heritage Foundation several years ago, which was then considered a wellspring of conservative ideas, although it has--in my view--become so embedded in establishment republicanism that calling it conservative now seems like a stretch.If the idea came from Heritage back then, though, it had the conservative imprimatur.
In short, both Romney and Gingrich can claim to be conservative, but only within a certain frame of reference and historical perspective. Federalism is the oldest idea of the Republic. The healthcare mandate was born in a Republican think-tank, although later discarded because of its incompatibility with constitutional principles. Think of federalism as 'classical conservativism', if you like, as opposed to the borderline Bircher bullshit coming from the Conservative Purity Brigade. Think of the individual mandate as a bad idea dropped by Republicans and later picked up and dusted off by Democrats.
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" He was voted out,"
Complete lie by Spicoli. Willard chose not to run on his awesome record in Mass. and didn't run for re election. Do try and keep up.
And no liar, I don't know who the nominee will be.That is why we have primaries. But, since I don't support Barak Obama, I will vote for the GOP nominee over Obama. Will you?
Complete lie by Spicoli. Willard chose not to run on his awesome record in Mass. and didn't run for re election. Do try and keep up.
And no liar, I don't know who the nominee will be.That is why we have primaries. But, since I don't support Barak Obama, I will vote for the GOP nominee over Obama. Will you?
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I like the alliteration of "President Perry". President Romney, not so much. President Gingrich sounds too much like Grinch. President Bachmann makes me want to scream, "Heil!" President Huntsman is dullish sounding. President Paul sounds incomplete - I keep waiting for the "Lynch" to be added on. And in sixth grade I got called "Mathy" instead of "Kathy" because I completed all the problems in the arithmetic book by mid-October instead of taking until June.
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29Victor at #290:
"Romney began weeping openly and his controller chip exploded?"
Freakin' brilliant - thanks for that.
CAC at 291: Why sorry? I'm not convinced, but good post.
"Romney began weeping openly and his controller chip exploded?"
Freakin' brilliant - thanks for that.
CAC at 291: Why sorry? I'm not convinced, but good post.
Posted by: JPS at November 23, 2011 12:47 PM (yK9FQ)
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The ONE genuine part of the 'electability" argument for Romney is he has legitimate strength in the upper midwest and Pennsylvania. He is a lock with New Hampshire, likely flips Michigan, and per PPP, would beat Obama in Pennsylvania. He polls better than the rest in the whole midwest (save for Illinois of course).
The trick to 2012 is NOT to flip old Bush states. We need to think ahead to 2016, 2020, etc as to where we can build up a presence. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine all more than offset the southwestern US and have seen Republicans surging. States don't stay red and blue forever- the Clinton South (AR-LA-KY-TN-WV) became the Bush South in 2000. The Republican northeast (VT, ME, NH) of much of the 20th century became Democratic in the final decade of it.
This goes beyond the Presidential race. We should be actively flipping regions (much like the much-discussed Southern Strategy employed by Republicans mid-to-late 20th century).
The ONE genuine part of the 'electability" argument for Romney is he has legitimate strength in the upper midwest and Pennsylvania. He is a lock with New Hampshire, likely flips Michigan, and per PPP, would beat Obama in Pennsylvania. He polls better than the rest in the whole midwest (save for Illinois of course).
The trick to 2012 is NOT to flip old Bush states. We need to think ahead to 2016, 2020, etc as to where we can build up a presence. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine all more than offset the southwestern US and have seen Republicans surging. States don't stay red and blue forever- the Clinton South (AR-LA-KY-TN-WV) became the Bush South in 2000. The Republican northeast (VT, ME, NH) of much of the 20th century became Democratic in the final decade of it.
This goes beyond the Presidential race. We should be actively flipping regions (much like the much-discussed Southern Strategy employed by Republicans mid-to-late 20th century).
Posted by: CAC at November 23, 2011 12:47 PM (JEVge)
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Webster's Dictionary defines "conservatism" as "how closely one's views resemble those of Rick Perry."
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Webster's Dictionary defines "conservatism" as "how closely one's views resemble those of Rick Perry."
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CAC at 291: Why sorry? I'm not convinced, but good post.
Posted by: JPS at November 23, 2011 12:47 PM (yK9FQ)
For clarity mine wasn't a defense of Romney. Just an explanation as to why his numbers are so high against the President. Nothing more than being a "de facto" alternative people have known.
Rewinding to last year, HUCKABEE was "Mr Electabilty" in polling, even more so than Romney.
Posted by: JPS at November 23, 2011 12:47 PM (yK9FQ)
For clarity mine wasn't a defense of Romney. Just an explanation as to why his numbers are so high against the President. Nothing more than being a "de facto" alternative people have known.
Rewinding to last year, HUCKABEE was "Mr Electabilty" in polling, even more so than Romney.
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Posted by: Spicoli at November 23, 2011 12:42 PM (JMsOK)
Mitt also said he like mandates and that what they did for health care in MA could be a model for the nation. Obama agrees.
Mitt also said he like mandates and that what they did for health care in MA could be a model for the nation. Obama agrees.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 23, 2011 12:53 PM (dw7rB)
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Mitt Romney is so damn electable guys. Just like John McCain.
... so who you gonna put up ...
Perry?
McCain was a clueless git. When he announced he wasn't going to campaign in Michigan, it pissed me and many others here in the state off. Palin wanted to come. She was the only good thing about his candidacy.
Mitt wasn't ready back then. Not sure he's ready now. But no republican could have followed W and won given the mass actively working against him.
We are in a position to take SCOAMF out.
And you don't want to offer up the candidate most likely to beat him.
Why the fuck not?
If ideological purity is gonna cost us the election, say it now so I can fucking stay home that day.
Mitt Romney is so damn electable guys. Just like John McCain.
... so who you gonna put up ...
Perry?
McCain was a clueless git. When he announced he wasn't going to campaign in Michigan, it pissed me and many others here in the state off. Palin wanted to come. She was the only good thing about his candidacy.
Mitt wasn't ready back then. Not sure he's ready now. But no republican could have followed W and won given the mass actively working against him.
We are in a position to take SCOAMF out.
And you don't want to offer up the candidate most likely to beat him.
Why the fuck not?
If ideological purity is gonna cost us the election, say it now so I can fucking stay home that day.
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I'm a Doer. Not a Slick Debater. Texas is predicted to maintain it's economic top position for the next 5 years. Who else is gonna do that for the whole country?
I'm a Doer. Not a Slick Debater. Texas is predicted to maintain it's economic top position for the next 5 years. Who else is gonna do that for the whole country?
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Christians arent going to vote for Mr magic underwear guy. never going to happen.
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I'm a Perry girl, but GAFB. I'm in the South and everybody here goes by their middle name. When someone asks for my name, for anything other than legal or medical documents, they get my middle and last names. I do not clarify that it is my middle and not my first name.
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Romney defends RomneyCare from a federalist perspective which--if viewed in context--is a very conservative place to be
A bad idea is a bad idea, irregardless if it is implemented at the state level, national level, county level or involves inviting my in-laws over for Thanksgiving.
A bad idea is a bad idea, irregardless if it is implemented at the state level, national level, county level or involves inviting my in-laws over for Thanksgiving.
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If Willard is elected does this mean he gets to drown all the fucking rats???
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Off limits?
When did we break through the looking glass into bizarro world? THIS IS ACEHQ! There are no limits and we ain't gonna show ewez no limits. His real name is Willard. There, I said it and I feel good. BTW we had a really good shot at getting a real conservative in the line of Calvin Coolidge. But all the wussies in power could do was worry about what someone would say in the media.
Off limits? MY SWEET ASS!
Off limits?
When did we break through the looking glass into bizarro world? THIS IS ACEHQ! There are no limits and we ain't gonna show ewez no limits. His real name is Willard. There, I said it and I feel good. BTW we had a really good shot at getting a real conservative in the line of Calvin Coolidge. But all the wussies in power could do was worry about what someone would say in the media.
Off limits? MY SWEET ASS!
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Mitt Romney is a RINO and aspiring to be nothing more or less than McCain the Sequel. He sucks. But hey, if you want a dude whose sole saving grace is that he's good at debates don't let me stop you from voting for him.
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