Esquire Writer Rips Jon Stewart, And For Once, I Find Myself On Stewart's Side

If you think I write long and am badly in need of an editor, read this guy.

I pretty much hate this article because it's written in such a cutesy, I-think-I'm-funny way. It doesn't state its thesis simply or directly. It's a lot of affected stream of consciousness, questioning and halting stuff like this:

He is only one man, after all. It may even be said — if we may say so — that he is just a man. May we? We may, because that's how Stewart likes it. But we all know that some men become more than men by how they respond to their times. Such a man is Jon Stewart. He has stepped up. He might have started out as a great comedian, but when he saw that the times were no laughing matter, he became also a great man. He transformed himself, and so was himself transformed. Even as the media and politicians he mocked so relentlessly lost their moral compass, he found his. He saw wrong and tried to right it; saw suffering and tried to heal it; saw war and tried to stop it; saw his old friend Anthony Weiner's penis and tried to make jokes about it...

Pretty much it's 15,000 words to say not a great deal more than Jim Treacher did so long ago: "Clown nose on, clown nose off."

Occasionally there's a halfway decent point...

Was he funny? Well, there is a sound that comedians know is always there, waiting for them. It's not laughter. Nor is it the sound of booing or catcalls. It goes like this: Whooooo ... and American audiences make it to signal not that they find a joke funny but that they get it and agree with it. Comedians fear it, because they know it's easy to get. They know that it's the end of something and the beginning of something else — the end of comedy and the beginning of "humor," in which they get no more laughs but bask in the applause of the audiences whose prejudices they flatter.

Jon Stewart has made a career of avoiding "Whooo" humor. He has flattered the prejudices of his audience, but he has always been funny, and he has always made them laugh. At the Juan Williams taping, however, at least half of Stewart's jokes elicited the sound of Whooo! instead of the sound of laughter. He's been able to concentrate his comedy into a kind of shorthand — a pause, or a raised eyebrow, is often all that is necessary now — but a stranger not cued to laugh could be forgiven for not laughing, indeed for thinking that what was going on in front of him was not comedy at all but rather high-toned journalism with a sense of humor. Which might be how Jon Stewart wants it by now. But outside the building there's still a giant version of him standing with clasped hands, and he looks ready to take the piss out of anyone, including the gray-haired man inside, talking seriously to a Fox News analyst about starting a network something like Fox, without the laughs.

... which is just a wordier way to say "Stewart does a lot of clapper humor and seems to take himself too seriously."

I think Stewart is dishonest -- he is at the very least dishonest with himself, as he makes very thin distinctions in order to claim he's not himself ideological. But the writer of the Esquire piece does not fault him for that. Instead, the Esquire piece faults him for seeming "self-parody" in faulting Rachel Maddow for being too ideological.

That last clip is pretty interesting, as he mostly defends Bush from the most outrageous "He lied us into war" claims and punctures Maddow's self-flattery of herself as an unblinkered, unbiased Searcher For Truth.

That's what I think the Esquire writer objects to-- because, in his better moments, Stewart does occasionally fault the left for its un-nuanced, black-and-white, smug self-righteousness. Stewart's chief fault, in this view, is spoiling the left's good time. The left wants to pat itself on the back for being qualitatively different than (by which I mean: superior to) the mindless, conspiracy-mongering partisan hacks on the other side. It tends to not enjoy having it pointed out they are, actually mindless conspiracy-mongering partisan hacks most of the time.

Now, Stewart's a hypocrite and willfully blind to his own biases, and he looks like a total jackass in that Wallace clip. Still, people tend to be better critics of others than of themselves, don't they?

When Machmoud Abbas was revealed to be a Holocaust denier, apologists pointed out a sad fact about Palestine: Holocaust deniers were the moderates of Palestine.

Holocaust enthusiasts were the extremists, in that nasty little land.

Similarly, Stewart might deny his own bias, and general bias in the liberal media, but at least he knows enough to wish to disassociate himself from the partisan hackery of MSNBC, rather than celebrate it as "liberals finally having the courage to hijack media 'news' shows towards ideological ends.

Which, if I understand Equire Writer's thinking (and I might not -- he doesn't seem to understand his thinking, either), is really the central complaint made about Stewart here.

Eh. Writer fail on that Esquire piece. He took a guy I don't think is funny or particularly thoughtful and wrote such a long, meandering, pointless, and archly smug piece about Stewart I'm actually inclined to defend Stewart.

Jon Stewart's Problem Is That He's Committed To Stopping A Trivial Problem. What most distorts politics?

Media bias which favors one ideological agenda, while claiming itself to be non-ideological? Not only does that result in an unfair advantage for one ideology, it breeds cynicism: Conspiracy theories flourish because few actually have an authority as straight-shooters. And that's the media's fault, because it has given up all but the thinnest pretense of objectivity.

Stewart does not think that is a problem. He denies the media even has such a problem at all.

Rather, he thinks media has a bias towards "conflict" and "simplicity." This, he thinks, causes us to view each other with more suspicion and hatred. It coarsens the dialogue and tends to reduce the chances of good compromises.

That's true but that is a rather minor problem compared to the first. And, in the scheme of things, someone might be justified in noting that both are comparatively minor problems to obsess about; that media criticism is, necessarily, a relatively trivial pursuit. Add into that that among the various ways one could engage this relatively minor topic, Stewart's chosen the least important way, and that means that for all his influence, his mission itself concerns the most trivial critique in a field that is already rather trivial.

And men who pursue trivial goals are generally not afforded the honorific of Hero, even if they're relatively skilled in pursuit of those trivial ends.

Although media bias is a problem, it is a proceduralist concern. And right now, at this point in history, proceduralist stuff is pretty thin gruel.

If Stewart wanted to achieve a mighty purpose, he could weigh in forcefully on substantive matters -- like the Democratic Party's attempt to demonize reforms that virtually everyone who is not running for office in 2012 admits are necessary.

But instead he contents himself with the easy crap, the nothing-burgers, small worries about the indirect effects of putative "coarsening" of our debate and the speculative erosion of supposed possibilities to achieve hypothetical (and viewpoint-dependent) political outcomes.

Stewart may appear large in his self-defined field, but that is only because the niche he's created for himself --the problem that so consumes him -- is so tiny.

If you want to criticize Stewart, then do so by noting that while he occupies a space in the public mind not seen since Walter Winchell or Walter Cronkite, his animating belief is the trivial "We ought to be nicer to each other and not demonize each other so much."

It's a nice thought, certainly, and hard to dispute, but then, no one ever gave the writers of Blossom a Pulitzer Prize for Very Special Episodes containing the same basic message.

Posted by: Ace at 06:31 PM



Comments

1 tl;dr

BOIASCOAMF

Posted by: fluffy at September 19, 2011 06:35 PM (4Kl5M)

2 Clown nose off, clown nose on is still the absolute best description of Stewart.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 19, 2011 06:36 PM (GTbGH)

3 Stewart is an entertainer and a jack ass. Make him irrelevant, elect him to the Senate from Min.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 19, 2011 06:36 PM (i6RpT)

4 Well, I did skim it.

And Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: fluffy at September 19, 2011 06:36 PM (4Kl5M)

5 Jon Stewart sucks. His show sucks. His audience sucks. His writers suck golf balls thru garden hoses. His mail man sucks so bad he could suck the chrome off a tail hitch. His barber sucks so much he makes Jenna Jameson look like a catholic nun. His tailor could suck start a leaf blower.......ect ect

Posted by: Mr. Pink at September 19, 2011 06:38 PM (B0ebt)

6 When Machmad Amoud was revealed to be a Holocaust denier, apologists
pointed out a sad fact about Palestine: Holocaust deniers were the moderates of Palestine.

He's a good guy, leave him alone. We're gonna go fission together someday.

Posted by: Mamoud Ahmadinejad at September 19, 2011 06:38 PM (IhHdM)

7 Did "Stewart" die? This is a eulogy. If not, STFU.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:39 PM (CIQ4R)

8 Reality has a liberal bias........(raises eyebrow)

(audience claps)

Palin is sure stupid......(makes funny face)

(audience goes whoooo)

Posted by: Jon Stewart at September 19, 2011 06:40 PM (B0ebt)

9 Well.... all the people in my audience say I'm smart...
And all the people at the cocktail parties aggree with me....
And see! even this writer thinks I'm a Great Man! He even says so!!!

Posted by: John Stewart's Ego at September 19, 2011 06:40 PM (NtXW4)

10 I think Jon Stewart is an unfunny dick who is a pathetic excuse of the hipster than thou attitude. I have never, ever understood why anyone thought he was funny.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 19, 2011 06:41 PM (Gk3SS)

11 I'm never on Jon Stewart's side. He's a leftist douchebag.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 06:43 PM (OhYCU)

12 Mmm. Like this article I do. Great is this writer's style.

Posted by: Yoda at September 19, 2011 06:43 PM (Yi1Pn)

13 Did you see me in 2006 criticising wars, huge deficits, Gitmo, and the War on Terror?

Did you see my audience clap my "jokes" at the time?

Now look at me and them.....we dont give a f$ck....nope not at all....I just make "jokes" about Republican candidates and my audience claps along with me like trained seals. Don't blame me, I went from a crappy comedy career with no money, to a show making big bucks. I am not going to ruin a good thing.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at September 19, 2011 06:43 PM (B0ebt)

14 He saw wrong and tried to right it; saw suffering and tried to heal it; saw war and tried to stop it ...

The little puke is channeling his inner Ted Kennedy, I see.

Posted by: No Whining at September 19, 2011 06:44 PM (eaKJb)

15 I'll tell ya who's funny : Henny Youngman. Edgy too.

Posted by: The Average Ace Reader at September 19, 2011 06:44 PM (BcpOa)

16 The only time that smug slug Stewart gets pissed at the Left is when they do something so retarded that it makes Stewart's job harder.

His job is pushing leftist propaganda to stupid people in the guise of news and hipster humor. Which is as entertaining to sane people as being fisted by Andre the Giant.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 06:45 PM (4CSeG)

17 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. (Whoooo!)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 19, 2011 06:45 PM (8y9MW)

18 Remember when Stewart was one of the definitions of "talk-show failure"? Right up there with Chevy Chase and Alan Thicke?

I liked him a lot better as a failure.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:45 PM (vOH26)

19 I heard there would be cheerleaders.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (OhYCU)

20 Wait.
Even if he were uproariously funny, witty, clever, unbiased, etc., how in a million years could he be "great"? He's a comedian. Even as a social commentor, he's a social commentor. Great? Soldiers are "great", inventors are "great", researchers can be "great", great people do great things. There is nothing "great" about entertainment.
Ugh.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (CIQ4R)

21 Stewart saw humor and tried to avoid it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (BcpOa)

22 Jon Stewart is a major part of the problem.

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (aD5Kx)

23 "[Socrates's] conduct toward [Greece] was at all times ironic; he was ignorant and knew nothing but was continually seeking information from others[...]. He kept on using this tactic until the very last, as was especially evident when he was accused. But his fervor in this service consumed him, and in the end irony overwhelmed; he became dizzy, and everything lost its reality. Henny Youngman rules."
—Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: oblig. at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (xvZW9)

24 I'm not at all impressed byeither one of them. They're both part of the problem.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (hu3+N)

25 15 I'll tell ya who's funny : Henny Youngman. Edgy too.
Posted by: The Average Ace Reader at September 19, 2011 06:44 PM (BcpOa)


"Take my life. Please."

Proper response to Obamacare Death Panel

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (UlUS4)

26 Too old to read Esquire. I already know how to shave; and I couldn't care less what supermodels are doing when they are not throwing up their dinners.

Posted by: USA at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (6Cjut)

27 I am great because I am a successful leftist dagny. That's what I thought being great was all about.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at September 19, 2011 06:47 PM (B0ebt)

28 Which is as entertaining to sane people as being fisted by Andre the Giant.

It's less entertaining that it used to be.

Posted by: zombie Andre the Giant at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (4Kl5M)

29 15 I'll tell ya who's funny : Henny Youngman. Edgy too.
Posted by: The Average Ace Reader at September 19, 2011 06:44 PM (BcpOa)
Bah.... newcomer...

Posted by: Groucho Marx at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (NtXW4)

30 I think that Jonathan Liebowitz is even a bigger douchebag than me, and that is hard to do.

Posted by: David Letterman at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (jucos)

31 Don't forget this, either: To libs and clueless young people, mere cheap shots at Republicans are gut-bustingly funny.

Their sense of humor isn't very highly developed. "This feeds the prejudices and superiority complex of the media/entertainment/Dem hivemind! Therefore, it's uproarious!"


Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (vOH26)

32 Ace, I don't think you write 'long' articles. You write thoughtful, balanced articles and try to cover all the angles.

Posted by: Retired Geezer at September 19, 2011 06:49 PM (LdOUb)

33 Remember when edgy was throwing watermelons off a 5 story tower?

Posted by: David Letterman at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (jucos)

34 Rush Limbaugh is funnier, smarter and more insightful than Stewart.

Stewart wishes he were Rush, but he couldn't carry Rush's golf bag.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (vOH26)

35 *insert long meandering story about a stuttering cluster F known as Obama*... the Aristocrats...

Posted by: Shecky Greenjob, Ariticial Intelligent Comic (2050) at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (NtXW4)

36 This Tom Junod guy has always sucked. One of the many reasons I quit reading Esquire years ago.

Posted by: buzz at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (PoM7V)

37 Jon Stuart Liebowitz is an overdramatic, overrated,clusterfuck of a of an unfunny comic even with the 15 writers giving this skin puppet bon mots. I prefer Shecky Greene or London Lee,who were naturally funny guys more than this scriptedlunch room wise guyas was Craig Kilborne the original host who left the show for greener pastures and madea huge career mistake

Posted by: HULUGU at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (ID1ra)

38 The thing to me is that I read about halfof it, thought it stunk like shit on ice and checked out who wrote it, and I like tom junod. He had some good stuff at GQ.

But this random scattering of words and smugness is so, um, unaware, that I think that not even the spellchecker bothered to go through it all.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (QxSug)

39 Larry Bud Mellman was funnier than Dave ever was.


Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 06:51 PM (4CSeG)

40 I think that Jonathan Liebowitz is even a bigger douchebag than me, and that is hard to do.
Posted by: David Letterman at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (jucos)

Any relation to Fawn Liebowitz?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 19, 2011 06:51 PM (i6RpT)

41 34 Rush Limbaugh is funnier, smarter and more insightful than Stewart.Stewart wishes he were Rush, but he couldn't carry Rush's golf bag.
Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (vOH26)
Couldn't carry mine either... cut him from the Caddyshack cast...

Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at September 19, 2011 06:51 PM (NtXW4)

42 Maybe Obama could launch a Rodney Dangerfield-type makeover. Just imagine him tugging at his tie and saying, "I tell ya, I don't get no respect." Guaranteed laugh line.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:51 PM (vOH26)

43 Stewart is a party hatchet man, whose life is making the news day entertaining enough to slog though for the disinterested. It is important, I think, not just to him, but to his audience, that he maintain at least the vernier of reasonableness, even though he is absolutely intolerant of my (our?) ideology. This creates the doublethink quandary, where he must be *ahem* fair, and therefore reasonable, while still believing his liberal doctrine that demands unreasonableness toward conservatives who are either evil to the core or stupid. Given the scattered and often varying presentation my feel is he operates everyday with the cognitive dissonance of wanting to believe he is moderate and run the show from that standpoint, while actually being as far in the tank as anyone on MSNBC.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at September 19, 2011 06:52 PM (0q2P7)

44 John Stewart... never heard of him



(oh, you mean Jon Liebowitz... yeah he sucks)

Posted by: Mark Levin at September 19, 2011 06:52 PM (Yi1Pn)

45 Put Empire of Jeff in the same room with John Stewart and Stewart's bosses for five minutes and Stewart will be sobbing and unemployed.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 06:52 PM (4CSeG)

46 Isn't that why Tina Fey thought Stewart wasn't funny because he was a "whoo" guy?
Eh, I don't mind him as much as the people who watch him, I think they are worse.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 19, 2011 06:52 PM (tKFT6)

47 Rush Limbaugh is funnier, smarter and more insightful than Stewart.Stewart wishes he were Rush, but he couldn't carry Rush's golf bag.
Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (vOH26)

Everybody in the media wish they were Rush.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (hu3+N)

48 42: GREAT MINDS, BABY. Great minds.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (vOH26)

49 also, the word on the street is that Stewart's actually, in private, as non-partisan as a NYC jew can be.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (QxSug)

50 Posted by: HULUGU at September 19, 2011 06:50 PM (ID1ra)


Jeez, Parkyer Carcass was funnier than Stewart. Projectile diarrhea is funnier than Stewart. Then again, that's what Stewart is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (UlUS4)

51 Yo John. You know what's pathetic. An ageing wannabe hipster who thinks he's all anti-establishment and cool and stuff for attacking and ridiculing the right...all the while not realizing that all he is isthe doorman at the lobby entrance to the liberal establishment. You are the establishment assface.
The actual cool people are the ones who are rebelling and refusing to be trained seals. The very people you mock, you fuck.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (+Uv5V)

52 I meant 41. Whoopsie.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (vOH26)

53 He is only one man, after all. It may even be said — if we may say so — that he is just a man. May we? We may, because that's how Stewart likes it.
Aaaaand I stopped there. It sounds too much like one guy who'sjealous of another guys success.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (1m+Pl)

54
He's a smarmy hack. ...and so is Jon Stewart.

Posted by: Milton Berle at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (U5Dr/)

55 I can't say that if there were a comedian who made fun of Obama/Hillary/Emanuel/Van Hollen/ etc. that I wouldn't laugh. Difference is, they are ridiculously funny, I mean look at Pelosi! No don't! Look at Grijalva! No don't!
See what I mean?

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (CIQ4R)

56 Any relation to Fawn Liebowitz?
Posted by: nevergiveup at September 19, 2011 06:51 PM (i6RpT)


No, but John Stewart IS a major league yabbo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (UlUS4)

57 I saw a school pic of stewart the other day he was 10 or 12 and a soccer player, he's been a douche all his life.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (w2Q58)

58 Aaaaand I stopped there. It sounds too much like one guy who'sjealous of another guys success.

Yeah. I see a restraining order on this guy in the future.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (4CSeG)

59 $50 USD to see mr. Stewart change a flat tire.
I'm a so fooking tired of sissy men acting all smart.

Fook double him!

Posted by: hater in the USA at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (gvKUn)

60 Something else not funny is not having T. McCotter in the debates.

and Jon Stewart is a self righteous tv bimbo.

and Arrrrrr.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (jiVmv)

61 51 nails it.

"I'm speaking truth to power!" No, you're just speaking feel-good ass-kiss to your peers,

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (vOH26)

62 Even if he were uproariously funny, witty, clever, unbiased, etc., how
in a million years could he be "great"? He's a comedian. Even as a
social commentor, he's a social commentor. Great? Soldiers are "great",
inventors are "great", researchers can be "great", great people do great
things. There is nothing "great" about entertainment.

Yeah, you're right. We should have all just gone to work in a spindle factory.

Posted by: Will Rogers, Jack Benny, Bob Hope, & Groucho Marx at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (Gyb1m)

63 Jon Stewart makes me wet. I mean gives me a hard on. One of them, anyway.

That's change you can believe inฎ.

Posted by: Chaz Boner at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (IhHdM)

64
You know who else isn't funny? That other butthead.
You know, what's his name. The guy with him on stage in DC.

Posted by: forgetful at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (7qXMA)

65 53
He is only one man, after all. It may even be said — if we may say so — that he is just a man. May we? We may, because that's how Stewart likes it.
Aaaaand I stopped there. It sounds too much like one guy who's jealous of another guys success.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 06:54 PM (1m+Pl)
Yes, oh Merciful One... most just, and wise, of you to say so...

Posted by: Grima Wormtongue at September 19, 2011 06:56 PM (NtXW4)

66 Any relation to Fawn Liebowitz?
RIP

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:56 PM (CIQ4R)

67 Stewart, however, does have Very Important Hair. From the Joe Wilson Douchebag line, I believe.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 19, 2011 06:56 PM (vOH26)

68 Is Jon Stewart trying to be funny? If he is, he is failing miserably.

Posted by: huerfano at September 19, 2011 06:57 PM (263hv)

69 also, the word on the street is that Stewart's actually, in private, as non-partisan as a NYC jew can be.
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 19, 2011 06:53 PM (QxSug)

Heh.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 06:57 PM (hu3+N)

70 Yeah, you're right. We should have all just gone to work in a spindle factory.
Posted by: Will Rogers, Jack Benny, Bob Hope, Groucho Marx at September 19, 2011 06:55 PM (Gyb1m)
Funny not "great". Bob Hope would be the first to not agree that he was great.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:57 PM (CIQ4R)

71 Is there any reason why either one of them has to be defended?
Can't we just aknowledge that both Jon Stewart and the Esquire writer are assholes?

Posted by: gebrauchshund at September 19, 2011 06:58 PM (iYwUw)

72 I think that Jonathan Liebowitz is even a bigger douchebag than me, and that is hard to do.

Posted by: David Letterman at September 19, 2011 06:48 PM (jucos)

He was gonna make me a pot.

Posted by: Eric Stratton at September 19, 2011 06:58 PM (QKKT0)

73 I believe Stewart could win Anthony Weiner's seat by campaigning pictures of his junk. Well, that and Colbert's smirk being bitch slapped by it.

Posted by: Thomas Bryan at September 19, 2011 06:58 PM (geV2u)

74
This Summer will be remembered as the Summer of Stewart... Oh, that's a different idiot Esquire writer? Gee, they have a lot of them!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 19, 2011 06:58 PM (5Z/+/)

75 >>>Aaaaand I stopped there. It sounds too much like one guy who's jealous of another guys success.

there is a strong smell of that.

Posted by: ace at September 19, 2011 06:59 PM (nj1bB)

76 I thought the painful stream of consciousness crap died when Virginia Woolf walked into the river.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 06:59 PM (CIQ4R)

77 and sulfur.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 06:59 PM (OhYCU)

78 Jon Stewart got his job by sucking lots of cocks in the right alleys. That and Craig Kilborn was an even bigger asshole.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 19, 2011 06:59 PM (ijjAe)

79 Fake newsman fronts for fake leader. Not that the fakeness wasn't readily apparent years ago. Both have been promoted, and promoted themselves, as too "cool" to actually put in the effort it would take to be an actual newsman (like Chris Wallace) or a leader (like Bush or Clinton). Fake it 'til you make it. Now, suddenly, the downside of "cool;" it's a front.

Posted by: AMartel at September 19, 2011 06:59 PM (1Bqk7)

80 Stewart was able to present comedy as intellectual comedy and sell it to people with a need to see themselves as intellectuals. He stupidly came to believe his own sells pitch and believe that his fellow intellectuals would buy something they wouldn't recognize if it kicked them in the crotch - the truth.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 19, 2011 07:00 PM (784iC)

81 And men who pursue trivial goals are generally not afforded the
honorific of Hero, even if they're relatively skilled in pursuit of
those trivial ends
Stuff Ace said vol II

Posted by: roman maroni at September 19, 2011 07:00 PM (KCCgc)

82 O/T
http://tinyurl.com/3va9y6v
latest racial rioting?

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 19, 2011 07:00 PM (QxSug)

83 Can I dance with yo date?

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:00 PM (CIQ4R)

84 Funny not "great".

Says who?

I believe all of those men, and many more, were great. I'll bet the soldiers many of them entertained over the decades thought so too.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 19, 2011 07:00 PM (Gyb1m)

85 That was a good read.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 19, 2011 07:02 PM (/Qxg8)

86 If anyone is great, it's Bob Hope.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:02 PM (OhYCU)

87 Et tu, Bluto?

Posted by: Funny, Great and Crossing the Memes at September 19, 2011 07:02 PM (QKKT0)

88 He is only one man, after all. It may even be said — if we may say so — that he is just a man. May we? We may, because that's how Stewart likes it.
That just creeps me out. Sounds like the author is getting ready either to declare Stewart a god...or getting ready to fellate him. Either way....yech. Shudder.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 19, 2011 07:02 PM (+Uv5V)

89 He was gonna make me a pot.
Posted by: Eric Stratton at September 19, 2011 06:58 PM (QKKT0)


Double rock'n rye and 7 Carlings....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:03 PM (UlUS4)

90 But Bob is great because he went to entertain the troops not because he smirked well.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:03 PM (CIQ4R)

91 87 Et tu, Bluto?
Posted by: Funny, Great and Crossing the Memes at September 19, 2011 07:02 PM (QKKT0)


That fucker is STILL in the Senate! Guess which side of the aisle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:03 PM (UlUS4)

92 Jon Stewart has dared to stray off the reservation a few times and question the wonderfulness of Obama.
I suspect that is why this Esquire guy is ripping him.
Thou shalt not speak ill of The One. ....Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated into the collective. Or face the wrath of Attaaack Waaatch.
Hey, maybe that's what this is....Esquire is paying forward their homage to the politbureau?

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 19, 2011 07:03 PM (bvJ5Y)

93 Jon Stewart speaks to the lowest common denominator.
It is like a 6 year old making farting sounds to his audience of fellow 6 year olds.

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:04 PM (h+qn8)

94 "John Stewart is not funny." --- Thomas Jefferson, 1802

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 19, 2011 07:05 PM (BcpOa)

95 Jon Stewart? Never heard of the mangy bilge rat.

Posted by: Long Dong Silver at September 19, 2011 07:05 PM (QQn2O)

96 I honestly would respect him if he'd comment on Obama's fiscal policies and show pics of homeless and say
ooops
clown on. clown off.

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:05 PM (h+qn8)

97 I've tried watching Stewarts show and never have been able to make it through a whole episode. He has the same audience as Bill Mahr but Stewart isn't as misogynistic or extreme. If Stewart called Sarah Palin a c*nt his audience would still scream and laugh. Steward just makes funny faces instead while he makes a point he is sure his audience will agree with and make them happy.
It isn't comedy and I don't agree with his politics so I don't find it entertaining. I do enjoy it the few times he bashes the left and the video clips appear on the interwebs. I only enjoy it because I know to the left he's a god and it hurts them. Not because it's funny.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2011 07:05 PM (MtwBb)

98 O/T: FNC reporting on the Reno crash. It's amazing. That plane just absolutely disintegrated. No identifiable pieces.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:06 PM (hu3+N)

99 And I still don't know if he were "great"? Doesn't "great" connote some extraordinary ability or bravery or insight?
If someone asked youto name someone great would you really name Grocho Marx?

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:06 PM (CIQ4R)

100 you know who is funny?
Dennis Miller!

that's real .

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:07 PM (h+qn8)

101 93 Jon Stewart speaks to the lowest common denominator.It is like a 6 year old making farting sounds to his audience of fellow 6 year olds.
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:04 PM (h+qn

Oooooooooooooooh. High comedy.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:07 PM (CIQ4R)

102 Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:06 PM (CIQ4R)



Groucho is, far and away, the greatest of 'em all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:08 PM (UlUS4)

103 If someone asked you to name someone great would you really name Grocho Marx?
Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 07:06 PM (CIQ4R)
Hail Hail Fredonia! Land of the Brave and Freeeeeeeeee

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at September 19, 2011 07:08 PM (NtXW4)

104 Posted by: Grima Wormtongue at September 19, 2011 06:56 PM (NtXW4)
Er?

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:09 PM (1m+Pl)

105 I assumed we are saying he's a great comedian.

He might also be great overall.

In 1996, the U.S. Congress honored Bob Hope by declaring him the "first and only honorary veteran of the U.S. armed forces."

Bob Hope appeared in or hosted 199 known USO shows.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:09 PM (OhYCU)

106
"He transformed himself, and so was himself transformed."
I bet that kind of genius worked on many a undergrad proaborts.

Posted by: Nora at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (VxqUc)

107 "You're only as old as the woman you feel."


Groucho Marx





(Clinton lives that line every fucking day)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (UlUS4)

108 Groucho is, far and away, the greatest of 'em all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:08 PM (UlUS4)

Yup. Rubber chicken and all.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (hu3+N)

109 90
But Bob is great because he went to entertain the troops not because he smirked well.

And he entertained the troops because he could smirk well, and shoot off one-liners, and just generally be.... Bob Hope.

Entertainers shape the culture, and therefore the country. Those who were the best at what they did, were indeed great. Dismiss the culture war and we will lose an entire generation.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (Gyb1m)

110 John Stewart? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Bosk at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (n2K+4)

111 Ace: "Pretty much it's 15,000 words to say not a great deal more than Jim
Treacher did so long ago: 'Clown nose on, clown nose off.'"

Best Pithiness Ever, so kudos to Treacher. But such wordy redundancy (essentially that's what it is) is an effective and proven tool. The exception that proves the rule? "Pass my bill" courtesy the SCoaMF. Sometimes you just have to club people over the head with your point except under the unusual circumstances when you condense an argument into a gem. Treacher formed a diamond. They're pretty rare.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 19, 2011 07:11 PM (r4t7/)

112 Bob Hope was great., and a decent human being

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:11 PM (h+qn8)

113 If someone asked youto name someone great would you really name Grocho Marx?

He was one of the greatest.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 19, 2011 07:11 PM (Gyb1m)

114 Yup. Rubber chicken and all.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (hu3+N)
Hey now... I don't remember Groucho gropeing me...

Posted by: The (Rubber) Chicken at September 19, 2011 07:12 PM (NtXW4)

115 Pretty much it's 15,000 words to say not a great deal more than Jim Treacher did so long ago: "Clown nose on, clown nose off."



Brevity truly is the soul of wit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 19, 2011 07:12 PM (UlUS4)

116 Nope. I can't muster any interest in what one lib in the print media (but I repeat myself) says about another lib in the "entertainment" industry (and I use that term loosely).


I hope there'll be an NFL thread.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2011 07:12 PM (5H6zj)

117 geezus shit Ace, gone with the fucking wind was only half as long as this..

Posted by: Zombie Hunter Thompson at September 19, 2011 07:13 PM (GOG1H)

118 Entertainers shape the culture, and therefore the country. Those who were the best at what they did, were indeed great. Dismiss the culture war and we will lose an entire generation.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at September 19, 2011 07:10 PM (Gyb1m)
Exhibit One? John Wayne....

Posted by: Perry Mason at September 19, 2011 07:13 PM (NtXW4)

119 Jon Stewart speaks to the lowest common denominator.It is like a 6 year old making farting sounds to his audience of fellow 6 year olds.
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:04 PM (h+qn
Perfect analogy!
I can't remember who said it but, "You'll never go broke appealing to the lowest commen denominator."
For some reason I think it was Bill Cosby.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (1m+Pl)

120 Gacy?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (OhYCU)

121 anyway now that we've skewered Jon, he fills a empty spot in the industry , people like his routine, it's all good. as my kids would say

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (h+qn8)

122 120 Gacy?
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (OhYCU)
Gracey???

Posted by: George Burns at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (NtXW4)

123 OT, except that it's an actual problem, if not directly ours(zerohedge):

SP, which had the balls to cut the US, has just done so to Europe's
next domino, by downgrading Italy from A+ to A, outlook negative.

Posted by: Methos at September 19, 2011 07:15 PM (sOXQX)

124 I'm a Jack Benny fan myself.

Posted by: huerfano at September 19, 2011 07:15 PM (263hv)

125 How would you like to be named Wiener, and your legacy is that you showed your wiener?

How weird is that?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:16 PM (OhYCU)

126 123 OT, except that it's an actual problem, if not directly ours(zerohedge):SP, which had the balls to cut the US, has just done so to Europe's next domino, by downgrading Italy from A+ to A, outlook negative.
Posted by: Methos at September 19, 2011 07:15 PM (sOXQX)
Fed Res tried to stem this off with the announced Dollar Swap... which effectivly ties the Dollar to the Euro... not remembering that OUR credit is not good right now either...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2011 07:17 PM (NtXW4)

127 Gacy?
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:14 PM (OhYCU)

Wow. Talk about clown nose on, clown nose off........

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:17 PM (hu3+N)

128 That was about the weakest "rip" I've ever seen. Does this "writer" usually do the hot-or-cold game? It reminds me of a Fawlty Towers episode where Basil was described as "alternately fawning all over (people) and then spitting venom at them like some benzedrine puff-adder."

Prose poems are like poetry but without meter, rhyme, or formatting. Stewart is a comedian in a similar way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:17 PM (bxiXv)

129 Is Elvis dead?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (OhYCU)

130 That just creeps me out. Sounds like the author is getting ready either
to declare Stewart a god...or getting ready to fellate him. Either
way....yech. Shudder.

Actually, it sounds like its cribbed from the lyrics of 'Jesus Christ Superstar'.

♬ I don't know how to take thisI don't see why he moves meHe's a man he's just a manAnd I've had so many men beforeIn very many ways he's just one more ♬

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (IhHdM)

131 125 How would you like to be named Wiener, and your legacy is that you showed your wiener?How weird is that?
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:16 PM (OhYCU)
Yeah... even WE couldn't come up with somthing that stupid...

Posted by: Laurel and Hardy at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (NtXW4)

132 If someone asked youto name someone great would you really name Grocho Marx?

Si, but you spelled it wrong.

Posted by: zombie Ernesto Guevara at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (4Kl5M)

133 Rush Limbaugh is funnier, smarter and more insightful than Stewart.Stewart wishes he were Rush, but he couldn't carry Rush's golf bag.

This is so true. Everyone thought Rush's best days would be over once the Clintons exited the WH. Not so!

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (0fUOB)

134 I'm a Jack Benny fan myself.
Posted by: huerfano at September 19, 2011 07:15 PM (263hv)

A fond memory growing up was watching Geoge Washington Slept Here with Mom.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:18 PM (1m+Pl)

135 Rodney Dangerfield fan here. That man was great.

Posted by: Bosk at September 19, 2011 07:19 PM (n2K+4)

136 cherry, yeah .

everyone should worry, what if your name is Dentnis ist Pain,
or Dr. lipshitz. or Morey wanker, or, or..

some are born into misfortune, heh

(if you are any of these it's a joke!)

i'm sorry , (in case i have to cover my rear)

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:19 PM (h+qn8)

137 Everyone thought Rush's best days would be over once the Clintons exited the WH. Not so!

The Dem scandals get weirder and weirder by the day. Content, baby!!

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:19 PM (OhYCU)

138 This is why we don't need conservative comedians.

The left needs comedians to make up stuff about us to make us sound funny.

We laugh at the left based on their real actions.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:21 PM (OhYCU)

139 i'm sorry , (in case i have to cover my rear)
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:19 PM (h+qn
Bill Clinton's in the House?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2011 07:22 PM (NtXW4)

140 And Jack Benny was awesome. And so was Groucho Marx. And so was Groucho Marx's daughter, known as Mary Livingston on Benny's show (and later known as Mrs. Benny (not really, I forget his "real name").

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:22 PM (bxiXv)

141 Fed Res tried to stem this off with the announced Dollar Swap... which
effectivly ties the Dollar to the Euro... not remembering that OUR
credit is not good right now either...

I missed that. I hope it wasn't as thoroughly assinine as the Swiss decision pegging their currency to the Euro (printing up just as many as it takes to keep the exchange rate fixed).

Posted by: Methos at September 19, 2011 07:22 PM (sOXQX)

142 Red Skelton was another of the comedic giants.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (hu3+N)

143 And can you get three datesfor my friends?

Posted by: USS Diversity at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (aD5Kx)

144 ack , Clinton!Romeo o Romeo , where art you been?

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (h+qn8)

145 The ghost of evil Umbrelia continues to haunt SCOAMF. Photo at Drudge.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (784iC)

146 Oh, and why are we wasting time talking about Jon Stewart? He's not funny! I think there are a slew of conservatives that are a lot more funny than he is--like Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg, the new guys doing those Political Misfit ads, every now and then Steven Crowder (his "Peace Prize" was his best vid), Iowahawk, half the commenters on this blog (especially Empire of Jeff), Ace, and the cobloggers are waay funnier than Jon Stewart.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (0fUOB)

147 Sadly , a generation thinks he's doing a newscast , and treats it as such .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 07:24 PM (npr0X)

148 And also let's not forget the late, great Johnny Carson. The guy could do political humor like it was supposed to be done.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:24 PM (hu3+N)

149 Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:23 PM (0fUOB)

TV's Andy Levy.

I don't even watch the show but I've seen him on the internet. The apology to that dumb musician who beat up his girlfriend was riotous.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:25 PM (bxiXv)

150 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2011 07:25 PM (fyOgS)

151 running. It would be fun to have a conservative line-up of comedians doing their shtick!
for these bad days that seem to keep going into worse day..

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:26 PM (h+qn8)

152 Sadly , a generation thinks he's doing a newscast , and treats it as such .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 07:24 PM (npr0X)

This!

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:26 PM (hu3+N)

153 Breitbart can be really funny too.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:26 PM (0fUOB)

154 Johnny Carson was a class act.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:26 PM (bxiXv)

155 148 And also let's not forget the late, great Johnny Carson. The guy could do political humor like it was supposed to be done.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:24 PM (hu3+N)
An Idiot, an abomination, and a stuttering cluster F of a Miserable Failure....

Posted by: The Great Karnak at September 19, 2011 07:27 PM (NtXW4)

156 Ace has written more in this post then Obumbles wrote during his career as editor of the Harvard Law Review.

Kinda makes you shudder a bit.....

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at September 19, 2011 07:27 PM (6t816)

157 Ron Paul is funny.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:27 PM (OhYCU)

158 156 Ace has written more in this post then Obumbles wrote during his career as editor of the Harvard Law Review.Kinda makes you shudder a bit.....
Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at September 19, 2011 07:27 PM (6t816)
And more than his book too....

Posted by: Bill Ayers, Ghost Writer at September 19, 2011 07:29 PM (NtXW4)

159 Stewart mildly criticizes the most egregious leftist excesses to absolve all the other ones. This does not make him impartial, moderate, or laudable.

Posted by: J. Lars Frillyfeather, Revisionist Activist Historian at September 19, 2011 07:29 PM (MMC8r)

160 Ron Paul is funny.


Posted by: cherry pi,



looking

Posted by: believe us and smutthead at September 19, 2011 07:29 PM (h+qn8)

161 /sock

Posted by: nickless at September 19, 2011 07:29 PM (MMC8r)

162 Ron Paul is funny.
Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 19, 2011 07:27 PM (OhYCU)

And I'm sure MSNBC is taking notice.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 07:30 PM (hu3+N)

163 Rodney Dangerfield fan here. That man was great.
Posted by: Bosk at September 19, 2011 07:19 PM (n2K+4)
I'm not as crusty as the rest of you old goats but the older I get, the more I appreciate the classics.
I'm a child of the 80's and played Guns n Roses in a garage band but the more I researched music, the more I loved old Motown and Country songs.
Comedians like Jack Benny and even going back to Abbott and Costello and Laurel and Hardy were the best!
I grew up with "Dice" Clay and Sam Kinison so, you know.
Bottom line, the golden days are golden for a reason.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:30 PM (1m+Pl)

164 Stewart's shtick is to show a current video, mug or deadpan for the camera for 5 seconds, and then shout in exaggerated exasperation.
Rinse, repeat.

That's great humor like Preznit Obuttfudge is Hope and Change.

Just more media malfeasance if you ask me.

...but as usual no one did because his ratings would be radically different








Posted by: ontherocks at September 19, 2011 07:31 PM (HBqDo)

165 Bottom line, the golden days are golden for a reason.
Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:30 PM (1m+Pl)
Geezzzz... could you imagine a Modern "Rowan and Martin's Laugh In?"
I don't think it could even be done today... the PC Police would kill it off in a hurry...
/puts on his German Helmet...
und STUPID....

Posted by: Bill Ayers, Ghost Writer at September 19, 2011 07:32 PM (NtXW4)

166 running. It would be fun to have a conservative line-up of comedians doing their shtick!for these bad days that seem to keep going into worse day..

True dat!

I remember when the "Right Brothers" had that song "Bush was Right"--it came out at such a great time. I was so demoralized by the daily beatings that Bush was taking in the MFM, and it just really brightened my day. I was driving home from work, and Hugh Hewitt had them on. They played that song, and it immediately lifted my spirits. There are definitely days (and they seem like they are more frequent) when I say out loud "Just how much more of this crap can we take? How much more before the Republic falls?"

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:32 PM (0fUOB)

167 Stewart criticizes the right when they hurt the left, and he also criticizes the left when they hurt the left.

Simple, see, it's not a double-standard!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:33 PM (bxiXv)

168 Duelling malfunctioning teleprompters would be funny with these two .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 07:33 PM (npr0X)

169 One thing I note is that (at least to me) the real comedians (Jack Benny, Groucho Marx, George Burns, Bob Hope, Laurel and Hardy, etc.) were never mean spirited and vicious as are almost all of the later crop of would be comedians. Maher is the the lowest of the low in my opinion.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 19, 2011 07:34 PM (i3+c5)

170 168 Duelling malfunctioning teleprompters would be funny with these two .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 07:33 PM (npr0X)
LOL.... just insert the latest Rap Battle between Hayek and Keynes....

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 19, 2011 07:34 PM (NtXW4)

171 I'm cooking dinner before the game starts. Can someone give me the cliffnotes version of this post?

Posted by: Jones at September 19, 2011 07:36 PM (8sCoq)

172 Why no post on Obama being the first Jewish President, ace?

Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:36 PM (fZlmM)

173 Maher is the the lowest of the low in my opinion.

Yeah, he, Kathy Griffin, Margaret Cho, Fat Slob Michael Moore, Joy Behar, are all lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut. They all suck. And none of them are ever funny; just mean and ugly.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:36 PM (0fUOB)

174 Oh, and I forgot Rosie O'Donnell and Roseanne Barr.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:37 PM (0fUOB)

175 I'm cooking dinner before the game starts. Can someone give me the cliffnotes version of this post?

One lefty making fun of a more successful lefty in hopes of securing attention and possibly his own show.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 07:37 PM (4CSeG)

176 #172
No posts yet on the Christina Hendricks nude photo leak either. I am stunned.

Posted by: CAC at September 19, 2011 07:37 PM (DwjEr)

177 Nah, he's just saying "Jon Stewart stopped being funny and started taking himself too seriously," which he did. And he's not as brilliant as people think - he takes a dozen writers along with him where he goes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 19, 2011 07:39 PM (r4wIV)

178 "Just how much more of this crap can we take? How much more before the Republic falls?"






Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:32 PM (0fUOB)
yes.
we need something soothing to our souls lately.laughter is wonderous.

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:39 PM (h+qn8)

179 No posts yet on the Christina Hendricks nude photo leak either. I am stunned.
Posted by: CAC at September 19, 2011 07:37 PM (DwjEr)

What!?...brb

Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:40 PM (fZlmM)

180 Why no post on Obama being the first Jewish President, ace?

Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:36 PM (fZlmM)
garret, Obama is like sybill.O amuslim, a christian and a jew walk into the bar.bartender: "what would you like" , Obama says, " a real sense of who i am".

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (h+qn8)

181 falls flat eh.

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (h+qn8)

182 Shorter version: Jon Stewart Tilts at Trivial Windmills

Posted by: soulpile is... at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (Mk/IQ)

183 Why no post on Obama being the first Jewish President, ace?
Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:36 PM (fZlmM)
Because it's not worth two brain cells being rubbed together?

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (1m+Pl)

184 willow

lol

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (eOXTH)

185 garret, Obama is like sybill.
O amuslim, a christian and a jew walk into the bar.
bartender: "what would you like" , Obama says, " a real sense of who i am".
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:42 PM (h+qn
But I went on VaCay and got in touch with my IRISH Roots!

Posted by: Barraky O'Bombya at September 19, 2011 07:43 PM (NtXW4)

186 Too wordy. Needs more dick jokes.

And naked pictures of Sela Ward.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 19, 2011 07:43 PM (z/Mo8)

187 Some points.

First, Esquire in it's day was THE men's, mag. Great articles and good fiction, Playboy killed them, now, just another NYC mag living off it name.

Second, Stewart is a Joo, so he dances around a lot of stuff, never heard a word about Israel on his show, to his credit he goes head to head with O'Reilly and takes the hits.

Of course he is a hypocrite, he is a liberal NYC Joo, he justifies back tracking to keep his beloved NY Times from bitch slapping him.

He needs to keep the edge, so he gets invited to the parties and the Hamptons.

It is amazing to me how little the rest of the country understands the NYC social deal. Limo liberals with inherited money are SOO concerned about the poor that they have parties that you can be invited to only IF you give the money. Usually they are at some museum that the city or state owns.

Why all the whores?

There is SO much money to invest and sell shit too that everyone sucks up.

Really, it is sad but NYC has probably over a third of all the inherited money in the nation and the heirs are guilty about. Think how much money that is?

Billions! Going back to before the war between the states. It is mind boggling how much money is sitting in trust accounts.

Spritzer? worth $500 million, does he give a shit about getting caught with a hooker? NO.

Did his redneck wife from NC leave him? NO.

Da huh!


Posted by: Sweede at September 19, 2011 07:43 PM (hXJOG)

188 laughter is wonderous.

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:39 PM (h+qn

A horse, a duck, and a llama walk into a bar, and the bartender says "Hey, what is this, a joke?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:45 PM (bxiXv)

189
Very entertaining slapping-around of Stewart, who deserves a constant barrage of it.
(Sorry, sounds like the spam this site attracts. All I need are 50 links to spam sites and I've found my second career.)

Posted by: waelse1 at September 19, 2011 07:45 PM (Z6Mfg)

190 And naked pictures of Sela Ward.

EW!
I cannot stand her character on CSI NY. She's such a smug know it all on that show, it's annoying! I just want Mac to backhand her once really good across the face. Just once.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:45 PM (0fUOB)

191 Posted by: Barraky O'Bombya,But I went on VaCay and got in touch with my IRISH Roots

ahaha. i forgot about that!

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:45 PM (h+qn8)

192 Merovign.
hah

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:46 PM (h+qn8)

193 Detroit 75 points in their first Two games ! WTF Thats more points scored in 2 games than in the last 5 years total points. Must have been some kinda twisted football dream.

Oh yea, Stewart is a Tool

Posted by: General admission at September 19, 2011 07:47 PM (3OCZw)

194 Jon Stewart has made a career of avoiding "Whooo" humor

Seriously? What, are you high? Stewart's entire f'n career is built on "whooo" humor.

He's almost as bad as that repellent little toad Bill Maher.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 19, 2011 07:47 PM (yOhPy)

195 From Junod's Esquire piece:
"He's been accused of making halfhearted jokes about Obama in an attempt to keep the show ideologically balanced, but that's not the problem, not really; the problem is that Democrats, with their perpetual disarray, are not as funny as Republicans, with their reality-bending unity, and that Stewart is left to nurse what is probably the most potent comedy killer of all: disappointment."
Anyone who could write something that mind-numbingly (reality-bendingly?) stupid isn't worth the time. I'll take a pass on his future masterpieces.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at September 19, 2011 07:47 PM (7EV/g)

196 192 Merovign.
hah
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:46 PM (h+qn

Laughter therapy. It's what's for dinner!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:48 PM (bxiXv)

197 shorter version: John Steward is a feckless turd

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 19, 2011 07:48 PM (UqKQV)

198 StewarT ( fake name, anyway )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 19, 2011 07:48 PM (UqKQV)

199 September 19, 2011 07:45 PM (0fUOB)
I stopped watching CSI:NY when Ward joined the cast. Haven't seen a single episode since. Totally worth it. That woman is ridiculously aggravating.

Posted by: soulpile is... at September 19, 2011 07:48 PM (Mk/IQ)

200 Because it's not worth two brain cells being rubbed together?
I was hoping for a Top 10 with a Fore!Skin joke.

Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:48 PM (fZlmM)

201 we need something soothing to our souls lately.
laughter is wonderous.
Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:39 PM (h+qn
Yes, thank you.
My little sister has fallen ill and is not expected to survive.
I had a shitty day with a co-worker who thinks I'm a lazyasshole for some reason.I work twice as hard as that cocksucker does.
I nearly broke his jaw.
They say laughter is the best medicine.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:49 PM (1m+Pl)

202 haha, representitive Dennis Ross tweeted.
Perhaps the Pres misunderstood. It is TALK like a pirate day...not ACT like one. Watch ye purses bury yr loot, the taxman cometh

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2011 07:49 PM (MtwBb)

203 If you like your bad, unfunny Daily Show comedian, you can keep your bad, unfunnycomedian...

Posted by: Chapter V, Verse XXI, The Book of SCOAMF at September 19, 2011 07:50 PM (0fUOB)

204 @ runningrn,

She wouldn't be playing that character.

She'd be playing "Naked Sela Ward: Hi-Test Fap Fuel."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 19, 2011 07:50 PM (z/Mo8)

205 No posts yet on the Christina Hendricks nude photo leak either. I am stunned.

Dude? If you're joking about that, we *never* joke about that.
If you're not joking, for the love of all that is Christina Hendricks where is the damned link?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at September 19, 2011 07:50 PM (0q2P7)

206 My little sister has fallen ill and is not expected to survive.

Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that! What is going on with her, ErikW?

Posted by: Chapter V, Verse XXI, The Book of SCOAMF at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (0fUOB)

207 Fuck Jon Stewart. He's a dishonest hack. He doesn't even honor his own "Don't demonize" credo. He used to do whole bits about telling Cheney to "Go Fuck Yourself". It was a recurring bit. Would also refer to Cheney regularly as some kind of non-human monster - a zombie, a vampire, the undead, cryptkeeper, etc, etc.

Seriously, referring to your opponent as, literally, inhumanly horrific, nightmarish monsters ... is pretty high on the demonization scale.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (QcFbt)

208 Anyone who could write something that mind-numbingly (reality-bendingly?) stupid isn't worth the time. I'll take a pass on his future masterpieces.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at September 19, 2011 07:47 PM (7EV/g)

It's a sacred mantra for the left. If you don't repeat it daily they cast you out.

I'm not kidding, it's one of those absolute, do-not-cross lines for them. The fact that political correctness, speech codes, racial quotas and the like come from the left causes some lefties to literally put their fingers in their ears and shout when you point it out.

They are the party of conformity, just look at what happens when a minority has the temerity to think for themselves.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (bxiXv)

209 Republicans, with their reality-bending unity
He thinks we're unified?! I wish I lived in that world.

Posted by: Polliwog at September 19, 2011 07:52 PM (j/c64)

210 Seriously, referring to your opponent as, literally, inhumanly horrific, nightmarish monsters ... is pretty high on the demonization scale.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (QcFbt)
Why.... now who would do a thing like that.... oh, I don't know...Satan???

Posted by: The Church Lady at September 19, 2011 07:52 PM (NtXW4)

211 I would make a post about "My EBT" but I think too many would take it literally instead of the obvious parody. Go see DrudgeReport though.

Posted by: CAC at September 19, 2011 07:52 PM (DwjEr)

212 My little sister has fallen ill and is not expected to survive


Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:49 PM

oh, i'm so sorry to hear that ErikW

prayers for her recovering.. that's shocking .
(erikw)

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 07:53 PM (h+qn8)

213 sorry to hear that erik w. prayers to your sister and your family...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 19, 2011 07:53 PM (eOXTH)

214 His animating belief is "We ought to be nicer to each other and not demonize each other so much

Which, as Dick Army pointed out, is exactly the opposite of what Stewart's not-nice and always-demonizing show does.

Posted by: Average Joe at September 19, 2011 07:53 PM (isyvz)

215 Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:49 PM (1m+Pl)



Go to youtube and search for America's Funniest Home Videos.

Someone has posted about 650 10-minute segments.

Some of them are inexplicably in German.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 07:54 PM (bxiXv)

216 I'm so sorry to hear that, ErikW. My prayers are with her and your family.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 19, 2011 07:54 PM (z/Mo8)

217 I liked this paragraph, because it reveals how lame-- and now, depressed-- they really are under the Obama administration:

Oh, well: another night, another show about Fox News. It's been like that, over at The Daily Show, ever since Obama was elected. Stewart just doesn't have the material he used to have when George W. Bush was in power, nor the nightly foil. (Audience members still ask him to "do Bush" during the introductory QA.) He's been accused of making halfhearted jokes about Obama in an attempt to keep the show ideologically balanced, but that's not the problem, not really; the problem is that Democrats, with their perpetual disarray, are not as funny as Republicans, with their reality-bending unity, and that Stewart is left to nurse what is probably the most potent comedy killer of all: disappointment. According to one former writer, the creative atmosphere at The Daily Show has gotten "doomier" since it became clear that Obama wasn't going to fulfill his promise — and that Jon Stewart was not in a position either to help or to savage him. "You can see the strain in his interviews," the writer says. "It used to be, 'Hey, we're a comedy show.' Now it's, 'What we do is so hard.' And it is hard. One of the reasons I finally left is that we were running out of targets. I was like, 'Do we really want to make fun of Fox Friends again? Really?'"

But the end of the paragraph that follows is the one fullest of shit (the part in bold):

Indeed, there are days when Stewart himself says, "No Fox today — let's go after a more elusive target." But then, Fox is always there, and Stewart has formed a symbiotic relationship with it. He goes on O'Reilly's show, O'Reilly goes on his; he devotes a broadcast to a parody of Beck's farewell from Fox, Beck complains on his last show that Stewart is only funny because he employs so many writers. In fact, Stewart gives Fox's hosts something to complain about — confirmation that the media is "biased" and the game rigged against them — but Fox gives Stewart a reason to exist, and he's been obsessed with Roger Ailes ever since he went to O'Reilly's studio and was summoned into Ailes's office. He stayed an hour and came out a freaked-out admirer, like the crazy newscaster in Network once Ned Beatty got through with him. It wasn't just that Ailes asked him, right off the bat, "How are your kids?" and then berated him for hating conservatives; it wasn't even that both men are intensely concerned about what people think of them and have no qualms about trying to influence how they're portrayed. It's that Ailes is all about power and so has accepted the obligation that Stewart has proudly refused. You want to know the difference between the Left and the Right in America? The Right has Roger Ailes, and the Left has Jon Stewart; the Right has an evil genius, while the Left contents itself with a genius of perceived non-evil.

Yep, that's the difference between Right Left in America. The right has evil, power-hungry Ailes's FOX the left has-- as their only standard-bearer-- the too noble, too saintly Jon Stewart. NYT, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. etc. etc.-- the Left doesn't have them.

Posted by: lael at September 19, 2011 07:54 PM (vuhBT)

218 Jon Stewart who? I'm listening to William Warfield singing Morris' poem Long Time Ago. As arranged by Aaron C. Too bad Warfield went over to the LaRouchies for a while. No matter. It's beautiful stuff.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 19, 2011 07:54 PM (btzPD)

219 Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that! What is going on with her, ErikW?
Posted by: Chapter V, Verse XXI, The Book of SCOAMF at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (0fUOB)
Something called TTP. It''s a rare blood disorder that causes the cappillaries to clot.
It's not well understood and now she has to visit with an oncologist because now it's attacking her bone marrow.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:56 PM (1m+Pl)

220 Thoughts and Prayers to you and your family, Erik.

Posted by: garrett at September 19, 2011 07:58 PM (fZlmM)

221 They say laughter is the best medicine.
Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:49 PM (1m+Pl)
It IS!! And don't you ever fucking forget it!!!!

Posted by: Reader's Digest at September 19, 2011 07:58 PM (KROfR)

222 Great Caesar's Foreskin. Ace was even more circumloquacious in his synopsis than Esquire Writer was in the article in question. That was Irony, right?

Posted by: Velociman at September 19, 2011 07:58 PM (KKxlS)

223 Sorry to hear that ErikW. Prayers for all of you.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 07:58 PM (4CSeG)

224 Something called TTP. It''s a rare blood disorder that causes the cappillaries to clot.
It's not well understood and now she has to visit with an oncologist because now it's attacking her bone marrow.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 07:59 PM (0fUOB)

225 Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:56 PM (1m+Pl)

Aww jeeze...sock fail.....sorry about that....

Posted by: Reader's Digest at September 19, 2011 07:59 PM (KROfR)

226 Sad news ErikW .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (npr0X)

227 It's not well understood and now she has to visit with an oncologist because now it's attacking her bone marrow.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:56 PM (1m+Pl)

Did they do / have they started plasma transfer?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (bxiXv)

228 Off

Posted by: Portnoy at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (KROfR)

229 Something called TTP. It''s a rare blood disorder that causes the cappillaries to clot.
It's not well understood and now she has to visit with an oncologist because now it's attacking her bone marrow.

Oops, hit the wrong button, sorry (and also I apologize for the earlier sock). Wow! I've never heard of that. I'm assuming she already has a hematologist? Do they have her on any blood thinners?

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (0fUOB)

230 Esquire: The magazine to read after Maxim has already taught you how to shave your balls.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 08:01 PM (4CSeG)

231 V-man sighting ! S'up dude ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at September 19, 2011 08:01 PM (npr0X)

232 Stewart is the logical outcome of the left's continuing retreat into fantasy.

It began, as far as I can tell, during the Clinton administration. The real-life Democrat President was an amoral, narcissistic, corrupt glad-hander. So liberals created "The West Wing." It was a TV show about a liberal President who was principled, selfless, honest, and wise.

That was harmless enough, but then in 2000 the libs' fantasy bumped hard into reality. They convinced themselves that Gore won the election, despite all factual evidence to the contrary. To this day you'll have a hard time finding a liberal who admits that, yes, Bush won that election.

Krauthammer points out that they had to suck it up for a while after 9/11, but their fantasy world spilled out in other ways. The whole "Truther" insanity was its most public expression. The 9/11 attacks were an atrocity that struck at all the libs' core beliefs. Foreigners (swarthy, non-Christian foreigners, at that) attacked America. That's not supposed to happen in the world of liberals. It's America that's always the villain.

So they came up with fantasies of their own, to turn 9/11 into something that fit their dreamworld. Noam Chomsky published a book about how it was all a pretext for building a pipeline in Afghanistan to . . . do . . . pipeline . . . stuff. Or something. Anyway, OIL! EVIL! And of course we had the evil motherfuckers claiming the attacks were planned and carried out by our government. Because that way America -- and BUSH! -- could be the villain again. As is right and proper in the liberal brain.

And in 2008, the ultimate fantasy. Barack Obama. A liberal fantasy come true. He was presented as being just like the President on "West Wing" -- only black! RAPTURE!

And to support him and coddle him and keep the fantasy alive, we have "The Daily Show." In which Jon Stewart plays a fantasy liberal newsman, making oh-so-clever cracks about conservatives and how stupid they are. And Stephen Colbert plays a liberal's fantasy of what conservatives must be like.

The only problem is that their fantasy has real-world effects. It's as if I thought finding a chest full of gold pieces in a DD game means I don't need a paycheck. I've got gold! It says so right on the character sheet!

What's really disturbing is how every time their fantasy is challenged, the libs retreat deeper into it, severing more and more connections with reality. There's another belief system like that: radical Islam. Every time Islam has lost a contest with reality, the response of the radicals is that they must become more radical.

How long before liberals start flying planes into buildings? This isn't a joke, by the way. I'm taking bets.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2011 08:01 PM (l+LI/)

233 Thanks folks. It's a rough go, I know you guys and gals have been through similar shit too.
I do love the morons.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:01 PM (1m+Pl)

234 ErikW, I hope your sister lives in an area where she has axcess to a large (University) hospital setting. I will keep your family in my prayers. So sorry to hear that.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:02 PM (0fUOB)

235 Hope your sister gets through this, Erik.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 19, 2011 08:02 PM (hu3+N)

236 And in 2008, the ultimate fantasy. Barack Obama. A liberal fantasy come true. He was presented as being just like the President on "West Wing" -- only black! RAPTURE!

Yeah, funny thing about that: Dennis Haysbert thinks he paved the way for Barack Obama because he made all those racist wingnutpeople comfortable seeing a black president on tv. Of course his president was just a pretend, make-believe character. Unfortunately, our pretend make-believe Precedent is real.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:04 PM (0fUOB)

237 i believe there is a mayo clinic in cleveland, but that isn't very close?

Posted by: willow at September 19, 2011 08:04 PM (h+qn8)

238 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (bxiXv)
I don't know the details. They have her on tubes but it sounds like they're just sustaining her.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:06 PM (1m+Pl)

239 Something called TTP. It''s a rare blood disorder that causes the cappillaries to clot.
It's not well understood and now she has to visit with an oncologist because now it's attacking her bone marrow.
Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 07:56 PM (1m+Pl)
I'm so sorry. I will put her (and you and your family)in my prayers. I have 2 sisters of my own and love them dearly.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 19, 2011 08:06 PM (+Uv5V)

240 i believe there is a mayo clinic in cleveland, but that isn't very close?

The Cleveland Clinic would be awesome, if your sister could get there.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:06 PM (0fUOB)

241 dum dum's making a complete fool of himself on the Slick thread. I'm tired of smacking him around.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 19, 2011 08:07 PM (7dMdC)

242 captain hate

...it can be tedious

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 19, 2011 08:08 PM (eOXTH)

243 I don't know the details. They have her on tubes but it sounds like they're just sustaining her.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:06 PM (1m+Pl)

The plasma exchange is just a slow replacement of the blood plasma (what your blood cells travel around in). It's just tubes.

I don't know anything about TTP causing marrow issues, but I am not a doctor. I do know that TTP can be caused by marrow conditions.

I'll bet they are doing everything they can. She has my prayers, hippie-dippie good intentions, and any mojo I can scrape up.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:08 PM (bxiXv)

244 I don't know the details. They have her on tubes but it sounds like they're just sustaining her.

I pray for wisdom for the docs and nurses taking care of her as well as for her and your family.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:08 PM (0fUOB)

245 The plasma exchange has raised TTP survival rates to close to 80% but I don't know about the marrow thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:08 PM (bxiXv)

246 He might have started out as a great comedian, but when he saw that the
times were no laughing matter, he became also a great man.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one but I never thought Jon Stewart was funny when he was starting out on MTV..

'Course, I hated MTV even when I was in the demographic they were aiming at so that might have something to do with it..

Posted by: Dave C at September 19, 2011 08:09 PM (YahgP)

247 Erik--prayers for your sis.

If anyone has an example of something more tedious than a lefty getting the vapors and trying to be brilliant about it, let me know. I'm going to bottle the stuff and sell it at the Dem convention next year. I'll bet Tom Junod has "an unfinished screenplay" or eight he's working on. They all deal with the terrible angst of living in the oppressive 21st century bourgeois society--of which he is not a part while writing for effing Esquire.

Congrats, Esquire--you've arrived at the singularity. Of stupid.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 19, 2011 08:10 PM (7utQ2)

248 Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:00 PM (0fUOB)
I think they started her out on that but it's not working. She has thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura.
I can't linky for some reason.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:11 PM (1m+Pl)

249 Really phoenixgirl; it's like arguing with a housefly. You can hit him with everything and all you've done is insult a housefly.

Best wishes, ErikW; has she been referred to the Cleveland Clinic or University Hospital? I'm just asking because I don't know if they have specialists for her malady there but if anybody would....

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 19, 2011 08:12 PM (7dMdC)

250 I'll bet they are doing everything they can. She has my prayers, hippie-dippie good intentions, and any mojo I can scrape up.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:08 PM (bxiXv)
Thanks dude and thanks y'all.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:13 PM (1m+Pl)

251 Fuck Jon Leibowitz anyway.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2011 08:14 PM (fyOgS)

252 What I'm reading says if chemotherapy and plasma exchange are combined the results are promising, if it's early marrow issues. The study was small.

Cross fingers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:14 PM (bxiXv)

253 Fuck Jon Leibowitz anyway.
Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2011 08:14 PM (fyOgS)
Okay.

Posted by: Sarah Silverman at September 19, 2011 08:15 PM (jucos)

254 I think they started her out on that but it's not working. She has thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura.
I can't linky for some reason.
Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:11 PM (1m+Pl)
Sorry to hear that EirkW. I just read about it and they said treating it with plasma helps. I am sure her doctors know that thought.

Posted by: robtr at September 19, 2011 08:15 PM (MtwBb)

255 ErikW, my SIL and one of my brother's daughters have VonWillebrand's disease. Since it was diagnosed early (birth for my niece) it hasn't been an issue.
I truly hope your sister does ok. Cleveland Clinic would definitely be worth looking into. It's one of the best hospitals in the world. They do so much research there, I'm sure they have a large population of TTP patients.

Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:19 PM (0fUOB)

256 I'm going to take issue with Ace's statement that Stewart's "animating belief is the trivial 'We ought to be nicer to each other and not demonize each other so much.' " I mean, I know that's what the muhfugga says, but that's not what animates him. What animates Stewart is a desire to support and defend the left-leaning establishment media. He's a guardian of the liberal media old guard. Okay, stay with me on this one...

As far as I know, Stewart first made the Rodney King pitch ("can't we all just get along?") five or so years back on Crossfire. Now look, I've got as many complaints about CNN as the next conservative, but at least CNN allows conservative voices to be heard, if only for half of a half-hour show. In the pre-Fox News days, Crossfire was invaluable. Stewart can't have that. He can't have conservative ideas being openly debated, certainly not on a news channel. Not on a channel that's supposed to deliver straight news, objectively. Not even if they're being balanced by liberal views. Why? Because it challenges the pro-left status quo.

Stewart liked the old formula, where Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather or Peter Jennings or Bernie Shaw or Christiana Ananotgonnaworkhereanymore told you the News. It had a liberal slant, but that wasn't a bug, that was a feature. "Straight news" was good for the left. When that format changed to allow more opinion, it upset the status quo.

So Stewart has to hit any opinion news pretty hard, but shouldn't he be okay with MSNBC? Well, no. Stewart would prefer a world with no opinionated news channels, because that means that the only news is the left-leaning establishment. Besides, MSNBC is embarrassing for the left - not because they necessarily disagree with anything that Maddow Pals say, but because they legitimize Fox News. If it's okay to have an openly left network, then why can't we have an openly right network. Also, MSNBC isn't that different from CNN, the New York Times, or any other "neutral" news organization, which exposes how left those outlets are.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 19, 2011 08:23 PM (Cu1aF)

257 This is a brilliant post. We're lucky to get this shit for free.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 19, 2011 08:26 PM (rplL3)

258 Yes, Ace, you do need an editor. Curiously, I happen to be an award-winning one in need of fresh copy to slaughter. Call me! XXXOOO

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at September 19, 2011 08:26 PM (hyP1j)

259 Cleveland Clinic would definitely be worth looking into. It's one of the best hospitals in the world.
Posted by: runningrn at September 19, 2011 08:19 PM (0fUOB)

She's at Riverside Methodist and they've actually assembled a special team because it's the first case they've ever seen. Her platelet count is extremely low and she's almost completely black and blue.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:27 PM (1m+Pl)

260 Sorry to hear about your sister Erik. Hang tough.
Tenacity and a positive outlook can be contagious traits in tough times.


Posted by: ontherocks at September 19, 2011 08:27 PM (HBqDo)

261 I'm a Jack Benny fan myself.

Posted by: huerfano at September 19, 2011 07:15 PM

Si.

Posted by: Mel Blanc at September 19, 2011 08:28 PM (TQy0T)

262 Si.
Posted by: Mel Blanc at September 19, 2011 08:28 PM (TQy0T)

Sy?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:29 PM (bxiXv)

263 Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:31 PM (1m+Pl)

264 Sy?


Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:29 PM

Si.

Posted by: Mel Blanc at September 19, 2011 08:31 PM (TQy0T)

265 She's at Riverside Methodist and they've actually assembled a special team because it's the first case they've ever seen. Her platelet count is extremely low and she's almost completely black and blue.

Posted by: ErikW at September 19, 2011 08:27 PM (1m+Pl)

Ennnnh! I'm going to go sacrifice a fatted calf. BRB.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:31 PM (bxiXv)

266 Si.
Posted by: Mel Blanc at September 19, 2011 08:31 PM (TQy0T)

So.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Robotic Unicorns at September 19, 2011 08:31 PM (bxiXv)

267 Maxim October Issue: Shave your chest and sack while reading about football and Olivia Wilde.

Esquire October Issue: Shave your chest and sack while reading about Audis and Barak Obama's pecs and what some moonbats think of Audis and Obama's pecs.

pass.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 08:32 PM (4CSeG)

268 Speaking of O/T, did progressoverpeace get banned again?

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 19, 2011 08:34 PM (7dMdC)

269 ErikW at

Praying for her..

Posted by: Dave C at September 19, 2011 08:39 PM (YahgP)

270 Posted by: Sarah Silverman at September 19, 2011 08:15 PM


What is it about second and third tiered comedians who stand around and support each other?

Propping each other up, trying to get the rest of the world to think they're funny?

Posted by: Dave C at September 19, 2011 08:42 PM (YahgP)

271 One version of the the legendary Jack Benny Mel Blanc "Si- Sy" sketch:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3B2qnjVCiYfeature=related

Posted by: LeBron Steinman at September 19, 2011 08:43 PM (TQy0T)

272
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2011 08:01 PM (l+LI/)

Good one.

Posted by: Easy at September 19, 2011 08:44 PM (rmO+T)

273 Oh, and fuck Jon Stewart.

Posted by: Easy at September 19, 2011 08:45 PM (rmO+T)

274 I found a fault in the post. Rachel Maddow and John Stewart are the same person.

Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 08:48 PM (4CSeG)

275 oh ErikW I'm so sorry
prayers for you

Posted by: chemjeff at September 19, 2011 08:50 PM (s7mIC)

276 So Stewart is an antisemitic racist. I knew this.

Posted by: Typical Duplicious DemocRAT at September 19, 2011 08:53 PM (QK18P)

277 Although media bias is a problem, it is a proceduralist concern. And right now, at this point in history, proceduralist stuff is pretty thin gruel.
If Stewart wanted to achieve a mighty purpose, he could weigh in forcefully on substantive matters -- like the Democratic Party's attempt to demonize reforms that virtually everyone who is not running for office in 2012 admits are necessary.
=====
Huh? Without the participation of the Corporate Media, exactly how is that demonization thing done?

Posted by: jc at September 19, 2011 08:54 PM (i8c5b)

278 And to support him and coddle him and keep the fantasy alive, we have "The Daily Show." In which Jon Stewart plays a fantasy liberal newsman, making oh-so-clever cracks about conservatives and how stupid they are. And Stephen Colbert plays a liberal's fantasy of what conservatives must be like. Wow. That's really good. I give you an A+ for insight.

Posted by: dagny at September 19, 2011 08:55 PM (oiEgp)

279 Maxim October Issue: Shave your chest and sack while reading about football and Olivia Wilde.Esquire
October Issue: Shave your chest and sack while reading about Audis and
Barak Obama's pecs and what some moonbats think of Audis and Obama's
pecs.pass.

I'm a jeans and tee shirt guy.. I've perused through enough GQ and Esquire at Barnes and Noble enough times to wonder why anyone would buy an issue.

Unless I was some metro-sexual wannabe hipster with no personality--

Are there really enough of them out there to support an entire magazine industry?

On the other hand, Maxim and FHM had stuff in that guys liked and made no bones about it..

Posted by: Dave C at September 19, 2011 08:57 PM (YahgP)

280 Who is John Stewart? Never heard of him, sounds like a douchnozzle tho.

Posted by: Metronil at September 19, 2011 09:05 PM (vCodE)

281 Maxim and FHM started strong, but now they are morphed into metro-mags like all the rest. I can see and learn more on the internet in a half hour than an entire issue of these "men's" magazines.

Anything on glossy paper that starts or finishes in New York City will eventually end up shitty.


Posted by: sifty at September 19, 2011 09:07 PM (4CSeG)

282 Its written in a cutesy, not so funny way - in other words, Esquire magazine.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2011 09:15 PM (pawS5)

283 Jon Stawart is what you see when you accidently let South Park go too long.

Please stop talking about him, Ace. No one on the right cares about fucking Jon
Stewart.

Posted by: AlphaBase1 at September 19, 2011 09:21 PM (mC61r)

284 Does Jon Stewart believe that politics and journalism used to be less contentious and partisan at some point in history than they are now, or does he just think that we should change the way those things have been done since the the time those things began?

Posted by: holygoat at September 19, 2011 09:27 PM (2ptZ1)

285 Why waste all the pixels? Just another in a loooooooooong line of left wing jews expressing his hatred of White Americans.

Posted by: White RB at September 19, 2011 09:29 PM (LrLv1)

286
207
Fuck Jon Stewart. He's a dishonest hack. He doesn't even honor his own
"Don't demonize" credo. He used to do whole bits about telling Cheney to
"Go Fuck Yourself". It was a recurring bit. Would also refer to Cheney
regularly as some kind of non-human monster - a zombie, a vampire, the
undead, cryptkeeper, etc, etc.

Seriously, referring to your
opponent as, literally, inhumanly horrific, nightmarish monsters ... is
pretty high on the demonization scale.


Posted by: Clubber Lang at September 19, 2011 07:51 PM (QcFbt)
I'm just a fucking comedian. You're not supposed to take anything I say seriously. Except when you are.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at September 19, 2011 10:26 PM (2ptZ1)

287 I don't know, you guys. When I read this article, nothing the guy said struck me as genuine fawnIng over Mr Stewart. It came across as more ironic than anything -- we're all familiar with the sarcastic use of breathless superlatives. In this case it really came off sounding more like denigration than praise, with the author intentionally mouthing brainless platitudes just to point out their stupidity. It's a thinly veiled parody of the hyperbolic sort of liberal hagiography that led to Mr SCOAMF being described as a "lightworker", the sort of thing which it would seem is finally starting to put off even some liberals.

Posted by: Jake Was Here at September 19, 2011 11:18 PM (heSoF)

288 Don't watch Stewart often, but once in awhile he does something pretty funny.
His segment on Obama's Solyndra was classic. There is apparently no conservative comedian capable of sustaining a show making fun of the Left. That's too bad.

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Posted by: lusefer at September 20, 2011 06:56 AM (Gb3fb)

292 Sailing into rough waters here but I liked the writing and I think media criticism is hardly trivial because so much of the population -- particularly the young -- buy so much of the garbage peddled via media. But I take your point that Stewart is worried about the wrong bias -- the "why are we so mean?" bias. And that he's fundamentally dishonest. But man he really WANTS to be the good guy, even if he can't quite bring himself to do the hard work required to be that guy; hell, he may not even know what's required. And that's where I feel empathy for him.

Posted by: Sarah at September 20, 2011 10:07 AM (SC5rm)

293 I cannot stand her character on CSI NY. She's such a smug know it all on that show, it's annoying! I just want Mac to backhand her once really good across the face. Just once.

I'm with you, I don't like her at all.

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