Obama: Hey, Little Favor. Can I Deliver a Droning Speech to a Joint Session of Congress At the Exact Same Time As the Much-Anticipated Republican Debate?
UPDATE: Carney Gives Permission to GOP to Reschedule Debate

Boehner should just say no, or propose that it comes earlier.

That would be the smartest play-- for Boehner say "There must be no delay, let's do this sooner, not later." I think.

The other possibility is just to say no. Or to counter-propose a public debate, or information exchanging session, as happened a while back, when Paul Ryan sort of embarrassed the hapless Obama.

Ed says to let him have the event on this night:

Besides, this actually plays well for Republicans. Usually, the opposition party gets a few minutes for a rebuttal speech, shot in an anteroom with none of the drama and flair of a joint session speech. Instead, the GOP will have eight or nine responses to Obama on live television in a dramatic setting. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Republicans at the debate decide individually to focus their criticisms on Obama all night long and his plan, especially if — as I suspect — the plan will amount to a junior-grade Porkulus.

I disagree with that. Obama's speech will, as usual, consist of pleasing soundbites, most of which are entirely meaningless (and hence hard to object to) without actual numbers behind them.

It puts the Republicans on a very bad footing to have to respond to Obama's speech within minutes of its ending.

Furthermore -- for God's sakes, the candidates are supposed to be talking about themselves and their vision -- not just letting Obama be Alpha Dog and determine the subject matter and parameters of their own debate.

Mitt Romney played Alpha Dog in the last debate.

This proposal means the Alpha Dog is determined in advance -- and it's Obama, apparently the 12th Republican candidate for President, and then one who gets to talk for an entire hour without getting a single question from the others.


BTW: The typical rebuttal to the SOTU isn't really a response to it, because the speech is released very late in the process, and the person giving the response can't incorporate very much of it into his response -- which is of course written in advance.

That's what Obama has cooking here. He gets to bigfoot an important debate, and essentially be the 12th Republican candidate, the one who gets to speak forever in an environment of power and pomp, while the actual Republican candidates stand at 11 podiums on stage and give two-minute answers.

The answer should be "No."

The back-up answer should be "The crisis is to urgent to tarry; let us have this much sooner than that."

The second-back-up should be "No."

And the third back-up should be "Are you kidding? Can you make it more obvious that all you care about is your ego?"

Update: If you were already angry, this isn't going to help.

Jay Carney has granted permission to the GOP to change the schedule of its months-in-planning debate.

So we've got that going for us.

Rethinking This: The standard paradigm for responses include the assumption that politics isn't involved here. And my own suggestion for Boeher -- "Let's have it earlier" -- avoids calling Obama out for playing politics.

But that's the wrong response. This is obviously politically motivated and it would make liars of anyone pretending it wasn't.

The timing should simply be rejected as animated by crass politics. Call him out. Refuse to play political games while he goes on vacation and indulges in procrastination and then suddenly divines that September 7 is the only possible day on which the dog will not eat his homework.

Call him out, refuse flatly. Don't play games with it ourselves -- it's obvious this is a political play, and we should refuse on those grounds. Not play politics ourselves in crafting a cute response.

He was on vacation for ten days. He has promised this "plan" (now more of an "outline," it turns out) for two months.

He can do it earlier. He just doesn't want to.


Posted by: Ace at 02:02 PM



Comments

1 Boehner should invite Christine O'Donnell to the introduction.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:03 PM (Fw2Gg)

2 I've also decided to schedule historic addresses on Sept. 12th, Sept. 22nd, and Oct. 18th.

Posted by: Barry O'Bama at August 31, 2011 02:03 PM (CJIam)

3 Carney give permission to GOP to reschedule the debate.

This jackass is definitely not the lesser of weasels.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (jx2j9)

4 Boehner should invite Christine O'Donnell to do the introduction.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (Fw2Gg)

5
I'm guessing Obama asked for this date hoping Boehner said no. That way he could then claim that Republicans are puting politics over jobs.
Everything with this White House is viewed through the prism of politics.

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (wuv1c)

6 More soaring oratory from the SCOAMF. Can't wait.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (QKKT0)

7 Invite the Douche to the debate.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (FcR7P)

8 It puts the Republicans on a very bad footing to have to respond to Obama's speech within minutes of its ending.

We don't even watch his speeches when they're not on debate night.

Posted by: GOP candidates besides Hunstman at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (CJIam)

9 Double commenting for double post!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (Fw2Gg)

10 brb, lookin' for my balls......

Posted by: Boehner/Boner at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (UOM48)

11 Somebody at another blog suggested that the debate format should be changed to a Mystery Science Theater type setup where everybody makes fun of the SCoaMF.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (RKzwg)

12 Have Rick Perry deliver the GOP rebuttal.

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (VndSC)

13 Hey, looks like we've got a new gig!

Posted by: Straw Men Everywhere at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (QKKT0)

14 Simpering candy-ass SCoaMF.


Posted by: sifty at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (4CSeG)

15 Boehner -

"If President Obama can skip the back nine - we could have the joint session at 7:00."

.

as an option, you can ask for clarifying statements such as "So, this will be a plan? not a series of guidelines? Does this plan already have the support of the Democrats? "

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2011 02:06 PM (h6mPj)

16 But ... but ... but ... Carney said the scheduling was just a coincidence, and after all, he gave NBC permission to reschedule the debate so what's the problem?

Un. Fucking. Believable.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 02:06 PM (8/DeP)

17 From Miss80sBaby's post below, Carney has given "permission" to NBC to reschedule the debate.

That little jackass.

*seething rage*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:06 PM (UOM48)

18 Some will say we should stand by and do nothing...

Posted by: The TOTUS Auto-Speech Generator at August 31, 2011 02:07 PM (QKKT0)

19 Thanks Ace,

you nailed it...Barry is narcissist enough to think he is the GOP candidate...

Boner needs to tell him "we can have it on the 5th which carney promised you'd have you PLAN ready on or the sixth to let you plug TotUS in safely"......

if Barry tries to play hardball the Boner needs to tell Issa to start asking barry some pointed rebuttal questions of his own.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (AEIYh)

20 COD needs to put a hex on TOTUS. Imagine Barky trying to give a speech without it.

Hilarity....it would ensue.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (UOM48)

21 Perry could respond with the Cousin Vinny response after the speech..'Everything that guy just said is bullshit'

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (UU0OF)

22 Jay Carney: Don't question the timing!


White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says the timing of the
speech is not aimed at overshadowing the next Republican debate...

"It is coincidental," Carney said."It is one debate of many [that
will air] on one channel of many... [and] there are many other factors
here" to consider when scheduling a major address from the president, he
added.

Carney gave NBC his permission to reschedule the Republican debate
so it doesn't conflict with the president's speech, saying "if the
network so chose and the candidates so chose" to reschedule, "that would
be completely fine with us."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (o2lIv)

23 "There are some who say...<bullshit,bullshit,bullshit>. But not I! No, I say...<bullshit,bullshit,bullshit> And there are those who say...<bullshit,bullshit,bullshit>. But I say, <bullshit,bullshit,bullshit>.

Condensed synopsis.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (jx2j9)

24 Boehner should actually go out of his way to hype the shit out of Obama's speech, stressing how itought tobe full of intricate details of "great importance". Then it will be even more underwhelming.

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (VndSC)

25
the "heightened sense of urgency" will now commence on September 7th

until then, just chill out

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (G/zuv)

26
Boehner should say it has to be a different day, perhaps an earlier one.
Something along the lines of, "We can't wait another week to hear your jobs plan. If this plan is important enough for a joint session of congress then it is too important to put on hold for another 10 days".

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (wuv1c)

27 Just say no.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (Xivba)

28 It puts the Republicans on a very bad footing to have to respond to Obama's speech within minutes of its ending.

If we can handle it, they can handle it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 02:08 PM (FcR7P)

29 This time I'm serious.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius, Leader at August 31, 2011 02:09 PM (QKKT0)

30 NO ONE IN REAL AMERICA PAYS ATTENTION TO THIS SHIT
Sorry for yelling, but really. No one gives a shit. I know this and I live inside the beltway. Stupid fucking liberals--enough about you let's talk about me.

Posted by: dagny at August 31, 2011 02:10 PM (P0l+a)

31 Boehner should hold a special session prior to Obaka's speech. The topic, "Democracy in America."

The guest speakers, all of the GOP candidates.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:10 PM (s1vtf)

32 Hmm, set up terminals in the lecterns at the debate and have the GOP candidates liveblog the SCOAMF's speech. I can't wait to see Mitt Romney write something like "lol at scoamf sayin u r gonna have to eat ur peas"

Posted by: joncelli at August 31, 2011 02:10 PM (RD7QR)

33 "Boehner and Reid have not yet responded to Obama's letter, according to
Carney."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:10 PM (o2lIv)

34 Carney gave NBC his permission

What a little sh*t.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (UOM48)

35
Carney on 8/29:

"And our hope and expectation is that the members of Congress from both
parties will come back with a heightened sense of urgency to put the
American people ahead of party, ahead of politics, and to do something
right for the economy."

State of Urgency shall begin after Obama's vacation.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (G/zuv)

36 "Ed" probably just doesn't give a damn any longer, at least not since his boy, T-Paw, got his ass handed to him in the straw polls. The Tepid Air/Clownhall.com candidate is back sulking in Minnesota.

Personally, I want Congress to stand up to the SCoaMF and tell him to come back some other time. At least the Repub debate might offer some fresh platitudes instead of the same old hoary phrases from Osama Obama.

No one in politics today could -- or should -- get away with the kind of relentless arrogance the Traitor-in-Chief displays. I so wish Congress would slap him down. Instead, he'll get standing Os from both sides of the chamber.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (YjjrR)

37 Corporate jet owners still have time to get out of town.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (QKKT0)

38 Hold the debate two hours later than Barry's address. The candidates can then discuss.

Posted by: huerfano at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (kD+se)

39 11
Somebody at another blog suggested that the debate format should be
changed to a Mystery Science Theater type setup where everybody makes
fun of the SCoaMF.


Posted by: Captain Hate at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (RKzwg)
Dude, that would be awesome.

Posted by: KG at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM (LD21B)

40 I know it's not realistic, but watching Obama give a joint address to only half the Congress would be a hoot. GOP members have a previous engagement, after all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM (q1Tbv)

41 What a calculated, manipulative, juvenile piece of shit our current president is.

Sorry.....piece of Sh*t.......

Posted by: © Sponge at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM (UK9cE)

42 38
Hold the debate two hours later than Barry's address. The candidates can then discuss.


Posted by: huerfano at August 31, 2011 02:11 PM (kD+se)

This. I'd stay up late to watch them tear apart every.single.bit of Barky's speech.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM (UOM48)

43 Barry is a Sucker of Cock, as well as a SCOAMF.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (GTbGH)

44 I'm confused. Are we still killing the children and the old people? What about throwing the poor people into the streets? This will disrupt everything!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (jx2j9)

45 35 soothsayer,

Hey it was a hat trick of olf courses at martha's vineyard on Joe public's dime asshole!

//Ogabe

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (AEIYh)

46 Another post secretly about my fabulous boobs. Well played misogynist, well played.

Posted by: Perky Pamela Geller at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (1fB+3)

47 ace: "And there is a pattern of glitches in his appearances."

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (OhYCU)

48
What a calculated, manipulative, juvenile piece of shit our current president is.Sorry.....piece of Sh*t.......

Posted by: © Sponge at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM

It's okay. I do it all the time.

Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (kD+se)

49 No, no, the first response is "FYNQ". The second response is "Someone fetch Cheney a cougar". The third response has something to do with a kraken, Mothra babes and thin mints but I'm still working out the finer details.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (VtjlW)

50
Katrina: Booosh is a racist!

Irene: President Awesome is.....look over there! Rick Perry hates coyotes!!!!

Posted by: MFM at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (UOM48)

51 Obama targets GOP for fall offensive

"President Obama is preparing to fight a political war this fall on two
fronts — the first against Republicans who want his job and the second
against Republicans who want to make his job more difficult.

...When GOP lawmakers return, the president and his team are ready to
deliver a flurry of attacks, castigating Congress for inaction on jobs,
being on the wrong side of taxes and eager to destroy social safety net
programs. If Obama and his team have their way, Americans will come to
see every Republican as a Tea Party extremist."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (o2lIv)

52 Sorry.....piece of Sh*t.......


Posted by: © Sponge at August 31, 2011 02:12 PM
^^this^^

And he's still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, too.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (YjjrR)

53 36 Scribbler,

I don't think so....

essentially I think finally Boner will have been screwed enough

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:14 PM (AEIYh)

54 The GOP Debates should go forward.

simulcast the President's address and have the GOP candidates watching the speech from their podiums.

just change the title of the debate:

Now - More Than Ever

-

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 31, 2011 02:15 PM (h6mPj)

55 “It is our responsibility to find bipartisan solutions to help grow our
economy, and if we are willing to put country before party, I am
confident we can do just that,” he said.

And I will begin by stepping on the opposing party's first major debate, which costs millions of dollars to produce and advertise, has been booked for months, features the one guy in the country likely to send me packing, and even though I took an extended vacay rather than address this problem when I should have, put it back yet another week even after I said I would do it, and even though I'm going to multiple fundraisers on nights between now and then.

And why, you may ask? Because fuck 'em, that's why.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 02:15 PM (8/DeP)

56 What a fucking shallow asshole the president is.

If Boehner had testicles, he would say, "This is obviously a shallow political move to try to get camera time during the debates. If you have a plan, let's hear it right now."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2011 02:15 PM (FkKjr)

57 51 Miss 80's baby,

like i said "bring it on"....

Barry is opening himself up hard to "you guys had total control and spent more money in two years than any other administration in 4.....

let me guess barry your plan is "more of the same"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:16 PM (AEIYh)

58 Hold the debate two hours later than Barry's address. The candidates can then discuss.

Posted by: huerfano
Bad idea. Obama will vamp for 3 hours, and no one will watch the debate.

The more I think about it, it would be best for Boehner to schedule the session for 8am not 8pm. Obaka gets his spotlight and would look like the petulant twerp that he truly is if he demanded the 8pm session.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:16 PM (s1vtf)

59 Oh I got an idea - have the candidates watch the debate with MST3K-style silhouettes at the bottom of the screen and riff on it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2011 02:16 PM (FkKjr)

60 I'd like to hear more heckling.
Someone ought to yell out, "Where's our infrastructure?"

Posted by: FireHorse at August 31, 2011 02:17 PM (RZRz9)

61 FYNQ

Posted by: an appropriate response at August 31, 2011 02:17 PM (OK/vv)

62 Change the format to "Questions for President Obama"

I'd say start with Fast and Furious, but "where'd the stimulus money go?" might be good.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 02:17 PM (FcR7P)

63
Wait.

So this address on the 7th is in lieu of Obama's plan outline?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (G/zuv)

64 *sniff* I'm not crying, really I'm not...

Posted by: Boehnhead at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (FcR7P)

65 Obama is consistent

ALINSKY RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep
trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition
masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
(Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling
organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)


Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (OhYCU)

66
Where's the plan?

Where's the outline?

Anything?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (G/zuv)

67 What a pr!ck.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (5H6zj)

68 Americans have been told for 3 years now that you've been laser focused on the economy and jobs.

Can we hear your plan, please, Mr. President?

WTF is 10 more days to attempt to derail the Republican debate POSSIBLY going to gain you?

Posted by: © Sponge at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (UK9cE)

69 58,

that is perfect....

also because the Leftoid coast would be getting the "session" at 4 am...

ie his biggest fans won't be watching

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (AEIYh)

70 Better stunt. Boehner should agee its important and start every session with an invitation to the President to address the House on his job plan. Have the Sargent at Arms walk to the White House with an invitation every day.
Somehow, though,the White House thinks they are being really cute with this ploy. Its transparent. And the GOP talking point after the speech should be "The President offered nothing new."

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (OWjjx)

71 Instead of reacting emotionally think about this rationally. This is a lose/lose for the republicans. Most Americans will think it's a non issue. Of course the debate would be rescheduled if the president of the United States has something so important to say that he asks for live coverage and a joint session of congress. Plus, NBC holds all the cards here, they are hosting the debate. They will reschedule. And when mittens and bachman and perry say it is more important to listen to the president's speech and the debate can be rescheduled, they will have no choice. Would be nice if the republicans reacted positively and looked in charge rather than have NBC kick them to the curb.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (k1rwm)

72 Bad idea. Obama will vamp for 3 hours, and no one will watch the debate. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:16 PM

Barry vamp? Hahahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: TOTUS at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (kD+se)

73 In the not too distant future
2011 AD
Lived a SCOAMF named Bambi
Very different from you and me
He was a stuttering clusterf*ck
His policies positively sucked
He did a good job screwing up the place
But the people didn't like him so they shot him into spaaaaace

Posted by: joncelli LOVES MST3K at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (RD7QR)

74 Where's the plan?Where's the outline?Anything?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:18 PM (G/zuv)
Biden's working on something now but when he presses down too hard on the crayons they break.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:20 PM (QKKT0)

75 Boehner should just say no, or propose that it comes earlier.

Someone with an actual pair of balls might do that, but...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 31, 2011 02:20 PM (1rHeD)

76 57
51 Miss 80's baby,like i said "bring it on"....Barry is
opening himself up hard to "you guys had total control and spent more
money in two years than any other administration in 4.....let me
guess barry your plan is "more of the same"


"The emerging line from the White House about the president’s
long-promised jobs plan is that it will be so modest that the president
will dare Republicans to oppose it."

More spending, bailouts, and extending taxes is now considered a modest plan.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:20 PM (o2lIv)

77 Ooh, I've been waiting for you to post on this topic! Rush has been on it all morning. He said "you can bet that the WH is high fiving eachother and seeing this as some kind of political coup." Absolutely disgusting.
I also don't think that it escaped the JEF's notice the venue of the debate--The Ronald Reagan Library. Another way of pissing on his grave too.

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2011 02:20 PM (0fUOB)

78 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:19 PM (k1rwm)

Shut the fuck up, you fucking imbecile.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 02:21 PM (OK/vv)

79 Having stupid white people unconditionally massage your ego your entire life will turn you into a monster.
Every single shitty thing he does he gets positive reinforcement.
The man is emotionally retarded.

Posted by: eleven at August 31, 2011 02:21 PM (7DB+a)

80 the plan will amount to a junior-grade Porkulus.

In your dreams. He'll be going full-on pork!

Posted by: Gibson Guitars at August 31, 2011 02:21 PM (71LDo)

81 I'm sure Jon Huntsman will be able to sleep easily tonight, knowing that Carney has given them all permission to move the debate.

Posted by: Oily Taints at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (TUax9)

82 Totally opposite:


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Foundation. Only 400 tickets.


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (jx2j9)

83 Roll with it.....what better way to drive viewership to the debates than have it run opposite another Obama speech....talk about creating the perfect contrast.

Posted by: Spell Caster at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (z82lw)

84 sock off

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (71LDo)

85 71 City gal,

horseshit....

but hey at least you are REALLY REALLY concerned.....

you do get that Barry has been "laser focused on jobs" for 3 years now right?

so what precisely is in his magnus opus of a detailed plan that he had o sit on for three years but is now urgently needed to be delivered "coincidentally" on the 7th?"

Barry ain't king and Boner has as much say on the matter as President Rolo-dex failure

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (AEIYh)

86 Hah!

More boilerplate BS from 2009 2007:

Obama writes that it is his intention “to lay out a series of bipartisan
proposals that the Congress can take immediately to continue to rebuild
the American economy by strengtheningsmallbusinesses,
helpingAmericans get back to work, and putting more money in the
paychecks of the Middle Class and working Americans, while still
reducing our deficit and getting our fiscal house in order.”

When do the Presidential debates job interviews begin again?


Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (/ZZCn)

87 I don't know why the Republicans would even show up for this. Just another useless campaign speech full of class warfare and attacks on Republicans who can do nothing but sit on their hands in response. Tell this ass-clown you have better things to do, Republicans!

It's like Boehner said a few weeks ago, "We don't need another speech about jobs. Put a plan on paper, mail it in, and we'll take a look at it."

Posted by: Spiker at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (4t9J5)

88 71, city gal. Good points.

Of course, Obama's only path to re-election is to make the GOP/Tea Party out to be evil terrorists.

So, Obama will try to provoke the GOP during the address with obvious lies.

The liberal media will be prepped and ready to show the GOP yelling and moaning on their side.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (OhYCU)

89 Where are the Transcripts!?

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (OpUcY)

90 80
the plan will amount to a junior-grade Porkulus.

In your dreams. He'll be going full-on pork!

That he is and he's loading it with all kinds of "gotcha" proposals to make the Republicans look like the bad guys if they don't agree. Very bad juju...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (OVCfn)

91 The more I think about it, it would be best for Boehner to schedule the session for 8am not 8pm. Obaka gets his spotlight and would look like the petulant twerp that he truly is if he demanded the 8pm session.
I like this idea. Boehner can claim it important to get the plan out early and that the market would be VERY VERY interested in that plan.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 02:23 PM (OWjjx)

92 76 Miss 80's baby,

then he is open to...."all of this was possible in 2009 assuming you and nancy weren't wanting to spend antoher trillion"....

nah he has gotten so wrapped up in being cute he has lost sight of the fact this is dodgeball not smear the q*eer

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (AEIYh)

93 Obama, I put a curse on you, gayer.....gayer.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (1fB+3)

94 86 Fritz,

nice catch so "city gal" I stand corrected....


Barry has been laser focused on jobs since '07.....he moves like a glacier bud

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (AEIYh)

95 Biden's working on something now but when he presses down too hard on the crayons he gets a nosebleed. they break.

Posted by: Submitted for approval... at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (OpUcY)

96 Well.. NBC won't reschedule the debates.. which is what they should do.. for one or two nights later.

So, they might push it back an hour or two and the Repub candidates will stand there and look stupid because they haven't had the time to digest or analyze all the crap Obama slings in his speech.

not good.. but this is about what you can expect from this stuttering clusterfucking failure of a president for the next year.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (f9c2L)

97 Boner should tell the GOP side to remain totally silent. No emotions at all during the speech. Damning silence.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (OhYCU)

98 Out of my own selfish black onyx colored heart, I think that congress should make this administration account for the TRILLION dollars spent in the last stimulus before the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure is allowed to spend another cent. Down to the nearest billion would be good enough.

Where did it go?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (jx2j9)

99 93
Obama, I put a curse on you, gayer.....gayer.


Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (1fB+3)
It's working!!!
*swoon*

Posted by: Reggie Love at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (UOM48)

100 Obama couldn't be an Alpha Dog if his life depended on it. That's why we're constantly getting this sniveling, bitchy, smells of desperation bullshit that's coming out of the WH.

This is to impress the base, that bunch that loves them some "Chicago Way", but were convinced Dick Cheney spent his idle time mobilizing Death Squads for them.

Posted by: ktgreat at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (Kfuzc)

101 98 HtP,

exactly.....

if the President REALLY wants to pick a fight with the house with a yyar and a half remaining he bettwer get his bike helmet and momJeans on....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (AEIYh)

102
I agree totally ace with your updated suggestion.

The answer should be a resounding no.

Point out that Obama could have picked any night, including flying back from the Vinyard, to give his speech. Say we don't need more politics, we don't need another speech, we need a detailed written plan Mr. President.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:27 PM (Xm1aB)

103 Joe Wilson...

Front. Row. Center.

Make the lying, stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure sweat and stutter and be more of a miserable clusterfuck than usual.

Posted by: things that should, but will never happen at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (2DyCU)

104 Sorry Speaker Boehner, but I can't do it any other day. I've prepaid green fees well into December.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (QKKT0)

105 Oh, and can you imagine what would have happened if GWB did this on the night of the Democrat candidates debate? Yeah, me either.

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (0fUOB)

106 The Rep candidates should have gotten some popcorn some movie theater seats and MST3K'd the entire damn speech.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (ES9R7)

107 Who pays for the tv time for these debates and is there a contract involved? I would assume there is, I just don't know the details.

Posted by: huerfano at August 31, 2011 02:28 PM (kD+se)

108 He's shameless, and the GOP should call him out for being a petty loser who can't handle the GOP having a debate they planned for months.

And no surprise, this is Rick Perry's first one. Perry scared Obama and hence the preemption.

Obama sits on his ass on vacation, and as soon as the GOP's planned debate appears, Obama needs everyone's attention way over there?

Call him out. Every single Republican should call him a petty little child having a tempter tantrum.

Debate is a democratic institution worth respecting. It's time to play hardball. I'd be delighted if a Fast and Furious impeachment for Eric Holder came down the day of his big speech.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (fF625)

109 93
Obama, I put a curse on you, gayer.....gayer.


Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (1fB+3)
Honey, we don't need no curse.
Posted by: Reggie Love at August 31, 2011 02:26 PM (UOM4
How you doin'?

Posted by: Larry Sinclair at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (TUax9)

110 perhaps the participants in the debate say we will defer to the scoafotus and agree to postpone the debate till after the scoafotus is done if nbc doesnt agree im sure another network would step in help a brudda out

Posted by: w at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (qc5aI)

111

Call him out, refuse flatly. Don't play games with it ourselves -- it's
obvious this is a political play, and we should refuse on those
grounds. Not play politics ourselves in crafting a cute response.This x 1000.

They can't let Obama get away with this. He needs to start being challenged by somebody for God's sake.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2011 02:29 PM (FkKjr)

112 He was on vacation for ten days. He has promised this "plan" (now more of an "outline," it turns out) for two months.

And he originally promised his "plan" for this week.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (OK/vv)

113 102 Dave,

EXACTLY...Barry has opened his Mussoliniesque chin up to a nasty counterpunch.....

"Mr. President I know you have just gotten back from nobly sacrificing 18 hours of your ten day RR in martha's vineyard....if this is so urgent couldn't you have stayed in town another half day before you followed the First Lady who had to fly in her own USAF jet at 110,000 an hour?"

nah barry's stepped in it

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (AEIYh)

114 not sure how I feel about this yet. I do know that Obama is acting like a petulant child, and when my kids acted that way I use to tell them to stop. Not sure how you tell the "President of the United States of America" to stop being a petulant little shit but I'm not sure Boner has the balls to do it right.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (UrPTC)

115 Would it be too much to ask for the Republican house to sit in absolute silence....no applause, nothing, during Barky's stupid speech?

Yeah, I know.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (UOM48)

116 Whenever Obama reads his laundry list of talking points, Boehner and Cantor should keep touting this and contrast it with the failed economic policies of the last two years/Obama's "new ideas".

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:30 PM (o2lIv)

117 "He can do it earlier. He just doesn't want to."

sadly, the same can be said for Boehner and McConnell. I've been so disappointed by the republicans I automatically expect them to do exactly the opposite of what your most conservative commenters would like to see.

this is sort of unprecedented, to so blatantly play politics. It would be nice if someone would point out that this damn well better not be a regurgitation of all the previous BS cause the American people, losing value in their homes, having no jobs, running through the last of their savings, going bankrupt but having their student debt passed on to their heirs, aren't really in the mood for "same old, same old" and that "same old, same old" could really backfire on the dems.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (k1rwm)

118 those republicans are just being selfish bitches. they should reschedule in deference to our king.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 02:31 PM (ggRof)

119 Let me guess:
"We need to act. As I have said, mares bipartisan eat initiative oats unprecedented and stimulate does jobs eat decisively oats Main Street and investment little crucial lambs trillion dollars eat fair share ivy."
He'll use that serious tone of voice that conveys that he means it, for realsies.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (RZRz9)

120 And I agree with the notion of demanding a morning speech.

What possible reason would Obama need to make his speech at 8pm?

It's time to hit him on a personal level, and hard. He wouldn't be behaving this way if it wasn't really getting to him and his staff. Hit him hard and he will react and react and expose his lack of character.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (fF625)

121
The House leadership, backed by Senate Repubs, better get out in front now and call this ass out, and loudly.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (Xm1aB)

122 I keep hearing liberals and lefty newsies talk about FDR and the WPA. What are the chances this new jobs plan has a new WPA?

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (nRTou)

123 If he was working on his vacation, why the delay?

Posted by: Questions for Boehner to ask... at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (OpUcY)

124 So, they might push it back an hour or two and the
Repub candidates will stand there and look stupid because they haven't
had the time to digest or analyze all the crap Obama slings in his
speech. Posted by: Chi-Town

Insanely bad idea. Obama will take up as much time as his nicotine addiction will permit. He will do everything in his power to push the debate until after midnight.

BOEHNER
Make it 8 AM!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (s1vtf)

125 What an ass.... Grow a pair Boehner!

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist and Perry supporter at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (qjUnn)

126 Boehner should call a joint session of Congress today and hold it open until Scooter can get his sorry little ass up to the podium.

Just keep with the visuals of all the Country's representatives sitting there staring at an empty podium, with a crawl that says, "President's Jobs Plan". For days.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (kaalw)

127 Semi-serious question:

Is the presidential debate now considered sacrosanct, or can Obama pull a Carter and try not to debate the GOP nominee?

Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (CJIam)

128 Boehner and McDonald should just say sure, you can use the room the republicans won't be there to participate in your arrogant childish behavior though,we will be watching the debate. We'll DVR your speech though and watch it later.
Arrogant prick.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (MtwBb)

129 I say let both events go ahead as scheduled and let's enjoy the headlines about which has more viewers.

Posted by: major major major major at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (utCAk)

130 I hate Texans so I'm going to vote for Ron Paul

Posted by: city gal's level of political acumen at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (OK/vv)

131 When Toonces gives his speech, have Republicans randomly yell out "BINGO!" every once in while.

"I reject the false choices..."
"BINGO!"

Posted by: Alex at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (r9Nf8)

132 Would it be too much to ask for the Republican house to sit in absolute
silence....no applause, nothing, during Barky's stupid speech?

Maybe laughter would be better

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (OhYCU)

133 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (fF625)

He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says would have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans. At least at 8 pm, people have time to digest what he said and react calmly.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (k1rwm)

134 Hasn't Obama been promising a jobs plan for two and a half years no?

Posted by: BOB NW at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (zT4Ss)

135 122 Johnny,

not a bad idea except....

the credit card is already maxxed out and you build infrastructure to aid in the creation of wealth....you know that whole "business" thing the donks hate so much they have EPA declaring farm dust a major pollution issue?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (AEIYh)

136 In the interim at least call his attack yorkie Carney out for the contemptible liar he is ... I mean, seriously, the timing is a fucking coincidence ? This is all you have to say for yourself you little piece of shit ?

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (8/DeP)

137 we all know there will be nothing to digest if the gopers dont know whats coming they deserve to lose to this nincompoop

Posted by: w at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (qc5aI)

138 Boehner and McDonald should just say sure, you can use the room the
republicans won't be there to participate in your arrogant childish
behavior though,we will be watching the debate. We'll DVR your speech
though and watch it later.
[add]
"If there was anything new in it."

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (QKKT0)

139
I do like the 8 am suggestion.

Get your ass out of bed you little prick. You should already have your plan....cough....I mean speech written after that long vacay.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (Xm1aB)

140 I have an idea! (chuckles) Delay the debate for one day, Ask Sarah Palin to Announce her candidacy for POTUS with a speech at EXACTLY the same time as the POTUS SCOAMF Delivers his speech>------- ROLFMFAO!

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 02:35 PM (lICB9)

141

Brave Sir Dipshit takes
to the Rose Garden to courageously extol congress to pass something that was
going to pass anyway. Bravely
leading from behind… no, if you squint, you can just make him out. There, on the horizon. That little speck. No.
Not the dark one. That would be
racist.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (jx2j9)

142 "There is no reason why Obama needs to make his announcement before a
joint session of Congress — any more than there was any reason why, if
he really has a cure for what ails us, he needed to delay it for a
couple of weeks while he went on his Martha’s Vineyard vacation. He
could have announced it on the 18th hole. In any event, it will be up to
House Speaker John Boehner whether to grant the president’s request."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (o2lIv)

143 127
Semi-serious question:

Is the presidential debate now considered sacrosanct, or can Obama pull a Carter and try not to debate the GOP nominee?


Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (CJIam)

I said months ago that he will not debate the republican nominee, ever. You all destroyed me telling me I was crazy. I'm right, you'll see. There will be no debates with BO and heretofore unnamed republican presidential nominee.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (k1rwm)

144 Boehner needs to declare shennanigans.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (OpUcY)

145 The problem here is that if Boehner let's Obama get away with this, he'll do it again. Obama and Dems and the MSM know that he's losing the media war (check his approval ratings lately). Therefore, they had to do something to knock down the Repubs.

So, Ace is right - Boehner has to say No. But, he won't.

Posted by: ugknown at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (fOPv7)

146 I do like the 8 am suggestion.



Get your ass out of bed you little prick.
Yeah, it'd be fun watching that ass, bleary-eyed, stumble his way through a speech even worse than he normally does.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (OK/vv)

147 He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says would
have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans. At
least at 8 pm, people have time to digest what he said and react calmly.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (k1rwm)
Where do you get sooo much information? I'm curious.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (QKKT0)

148 142, He
could have announced it on the 18th hole.
A Jobs Scramble.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (OhYCU)

149 So many people I know say, "he's a nice guy, but I just don't like his policies".
You know, he's NOT nice, and I cannot figure out where this "he's nice" thing comes from.

Posted by: Lily at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (YRc1K)

150 get your umbrella cuz its raining cold hard facts on your ass up in here

Posted by: w at August 31, 2011 02:37 PM (qc5aI)

151 He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says would have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans.
That is stupid. Sorry, but unemployment numbers have an impact on the market and when are they released……yup, 8 a.m. Hurricanes, tornados and all sorts of natural disasters have an impact on the market. No natural disasters are allowed at 8 a.m. Better not sell commodities in the morning, those have an impact on the market.

The speech may or may not have an impact on the market. I suspect if it is nothing more than a rehash of all his other crap proposals (“green jobs” “internet access to rural America” “ infrastructure”) the market might just yawn.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (OWjjx)

152 127 Semi-serious question:

Is the presidential debate now considered sacrosanct, or can Obama pull a Carter and try not to debate the GOP nominee?
Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 02:33 PM (CJIam)

Strictly speaking he doesn't have to debate at all, and the MSM certainly won't say a thing about it, but it seems to me that it would hand a talking point to the GOP. Not having a debate also would interfere with his ability to hear himself natter, which he dearly loves.

Posted by: joncelli LOVES MST3K at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (RD7QR)

153

ChadPergram
Chad Pergram












Pelosi formally welcomed Obama
to speak next week. But so far, no comment from Boehner. And remember,
the speaker must formally invite him.


10
minutes ago

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:38 PM (o2lIv)

154
Well, Perry has been known to refuse debates too, although I think he'll be salivating for one if he's the nominee.

Obambi would be wise to avoid debates because the damage he would endure would be far worse than the damage of looking like a little pussy and refusing to debate.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (Xm1aB)

155 Freeze.It.Out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (UOM48)

156 I'm right, you'll see.

Just like the 2010 elections, huh, you stupid babbling ditz.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (OK/vv)

157 You know, he's NOT nice, and I cannot figure out where this "he's nice" thing comes from.

What are you talking about?
He's light skinned and he doesn't have a hint of Negro dialect!

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (OpUcY)

158 you should listen to me. the voices in my head are very smart.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (ggRof)

159 I'll give Obama credit. It's a smart political move.

Let's see how smart we are.

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (OhYCU)

160 "
He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says
would have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans. At
least at 8 pm, people have time to digest what he said and react
calmly.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (k1rwm)"
If this is sarcasm, LOL. If not, SLAP.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:40 PM (fF625)

161 Not to break the topic on what a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure Carney is....but this is an excellent article written by Hassan Nurullah, who I believe is an ex-muzzie Christian. He articulates the oozing pustule of a relationship of the Democrats and African Americans. Worth the read.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 31, 2011 02:40 PM (ycuSb)

162 you should listen to me, I warned you about the huge Dem victory in 2010

Posted by: shitty gal at August 31, 2011 02:41 PM (OK/vv)

163 He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says would
have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans. At
least at 8 pm, people have time to digest what he said and react calmly. Posted by: city gal

He can make the speech at 8am. You just don't want him to because you know he's a vacuous incompetent who has to resort to petty PR stunts to stop his eroding numbers.

Big difference.

You're afraid that he is going to lose next year by a margin so wide it'll make Carter's '80 campaign look effective.

You can drop the charade.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:41 PM (s1vtf)

164 If this is sarcasm, LOL. If not, SLAP.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:40 PM (fF625)
I'm really beginning to think everyone is losing their sense of humor.
He won't make an 8 am speech and he'll use the girls going to school as his excuse. I mean he could say "i need my beauty sleep and I'm a night person" and the MSM would extol his praises. It's a no win for the republicans, no matter what they do, he has them in a box. And it's their own damned fault.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (k1rwm)

165
Okay, who's socking under city gal?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (Xm1aB)

166 What happens if Boehner simply doesn't respond?

Posted by: museisluse at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (4Lj43)

167 he can't make the speech at 8am. that's when we're filming my gangbang scene and i wouldn't want to miss a second of his brilliance.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (ggRof)

168 "I'll give Obama credit. It's a smart political move.

Let's see how smart we are.


Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 02:39 PM (OhYCU)"
It's based on a calculation that the GOP will not take advantage of the pettiness. I agree it shows skill. We'll see if it works out.
Obama is too cowardly to let the GOP debate occur, so he needed to interrupt it. That's the truth and if the GOP has the guts to call him out on it, Obama will not benefit. Ultimately, though, this is a huge distraction. Obama gains from any distraction from the real issues.We can expect stunt after stunt. Michelle will announce her pregnancy in a year, or whatever (I'm kidding). It's going to be endless manufactured drama.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (fF625)

169
The whole point of this speech is for Obama to publicly scold Congress for his own failures.

Boehner should issue a statement right now saying as much.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (G/zuv)

170 @166

I don't know, but that's NOT an option.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:43 PM (Xm1aB)

171 Okay, who's socking under city gal?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (Xm1aB)
city gal is curious (k1rwm)
.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (FkKjr)

172 "
I'm really beginning to think everyone is losing their sense of humor."
I said LOL. What do you want?I am not familiar with you, but if you were familiar with me you'd know I didn't have much of a sense of humor to lose.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (fF625)

173 Okay, who's socking under city gal?
Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (Xm1aB)
No one. It's one of the voices in curious' head.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (ggRof)

174 I said months ago that he will not debate the republican nominee, ever. You all destroyed me telling me I was crazy. I'm right, you'll see. There will be no debates with BO and heretofore unnamed republican presidential nominee.
Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:36 PM (k1rwm)
You are the dumbest fucking person to post here. And that is saying alot since the woman fellater has shown up again.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (GULKT)

175 RSM has some insight on the Palin in Indiana thing.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (Fw2Gg)

176 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (k1rwm)

Do you ever shut up?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (QKKT0)

177 Uh, Some say I do not have a plan. Let me be clear, I not only have a plan, but I uh have a plane. Um, America has encountered economic headwinds from the tsnumi in Japan, uh, the unrest in the Arab world, er, Hurricane Irene, uh the great flood that destroyed the world that only Noah and his um family survived, and uh, a myriad of complicated factors that I um have top men working on even as I speak. As you all know, um, I came into my presidency during the uh worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, The Potato Famine of um Ireland (home of my forefathers), and Wiemar Republic combined. Uh, as you know, all the failed policies of George W. Bush are to blame for the difficulties we face today.Uh, despite these challenges, I believe that America's best days are ahead of us. But these days uh, can only come, if we increase the taxes on the rich and confiscate uh the private planes of CEO's. In the coming weeks, my top economic advisors and I will uh come up with a plan to bring America out of this moribund economy that I inherited from George Bush and the Republicans who nowcontrol Congress. But I can't do all the work alone. I need you to uh get in the faces of your Republican Representatives and Senators. If they bring a knife to a town hall, you um bring a gun. We cannot let the um Republicans and Tea Partiers toah kill Grandma and teh children.
I am bringing hope and change you can believe in. But I need you to make it happen. Together, yes, we can, yes, we can, yes we can! Good night, and God bless um America!

Posted by: SCOAMF at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (0fUOB)

178 166
What happens if Boehner simply doesn't respond?

Then there is no joint session due to their being no invitation.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (o2lIv)

179
What happens if Boehner simply doesn't respond?

Posted by: museisluse
MSM goes into hyperdrive with "GOP doesn't want to help the economy!!! Womyns and Childrens Hurting!!!"

If Boehner just schedules it to be inconvenient for Obaka's purpose, they don't have much to run with.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (s1vtf)

180 Chatting about jobs before a joint session of Congress is beyond inappropriate. He might as well schedule a speech about the merits of brushing and flossing. America KNOWS how to create jobs. It's not happening because...wait for it...

Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Joejm65 at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (diQWH)

181
This is just one more out of numerous examples that show that for teh SCOAMF, it’s all about power plays. He has to demonstrate that he has the ability to mess with people one way or the other. He can’t resist the urge. It’s who he is.
He’s nothing more than a self-absorbed, narcissistic, petty, vindictive asshole with the emotional maturity of a three year old.

Posted by: Marmo at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (InrkQ)

182 Lord PrissyPants doesn't need a speech to put policies in action.

So it's a stunt.

Posted by: nickless at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (MMC8r)

183 It's a no win for the republicans, no matter what they do, he has them in a box. And it's their own damned fault.
How? How is it the Republican's damned fault? For having the audacity to schedule a debate for their candidates before the speech was requested? For breathing? Please, please explain precisely how the President's request is the Republican's fault.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2011 02:45 PM (VtjlW)

184 169

The whole point of this speech is for Obama to publicly scold Congress for his own failures.

Boehner should issue a statement right now saying as much.

Sooth that is exactly what I have read will be in his "speech." It's all the obstructionist Congresses fault.

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (OVCfn)

185 "city gal is curious (k1rwm)
.


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (FkKjr)"
Really? Curious was that dipshit who lied about all the parties and posted the porn links, right? The one with all the phony stories of experts whispering secrets to her?I'm not complaining. I really love it when a troll puts that much sweat into their routine. You don't see good trolls anymore because... hey, who wants to fight for Obama? Nobody who isn't paid to do it.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (fF625)

186 simulcast the President's address and have the GOP candidates watching the speech from their podiums.

just change the title of the debate:

Now - More Than Ever

-------
Raise a glass!

Posted by: poljunkie at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (XuiJf)

187 Do you ever shut up?
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:44 PM (QKKT0)
not even when there are two cocks in my mouth. you'll see once that gangbang scene is released.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (ggRof)

188 omg click on my zerohedge links! it's been six whole minutes since tyler has freaked out about something! this must be really important!

Posted by: shitty gal at August 31, 2011 02:46 PM (OK/vv)

189 151

He can't make the speech at 8 am, what he says would have an immediate impact on the market and thus all Americans.
But curiously, haven't we been treated to the whipsaw effect on the markets every time he makes a speech while the market is open? How many times?

Yer a tool, chaz.

Posted by: Derak at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (riU5j)

190 SCoaMF Job Speech full content: "I resign." /in our wet dreams.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (T2/zQ)

191 He won't make an 8 am speech and he'll use the girls going to school as his excuse. I mean he could say "i need my beauty sleep and I'm a night person" and the MSM would extol his praises. It's a no win for the republicans, no matter what they do, he has them in a box. And it's their own damned fault.
Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (k1rwm)
See, Dumbest fucking idiot to ever comment here.
Go blow Donald Trump and Ron Paul you fucking troll, and register to comment at Zero Hedge so you can leave us the fuck alone.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (GULKT)

192 Boehner should keep the House in session during the speech and have pages running around and people standing chatting during a vote on some obscure bill.

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (VndSC)

193 Maybe Boehner should put some of the newly minted pages on the case. They should examine all speeches, all speeches to congress and then how many times he repeats himself. Then make a speech compiling all the same stuff he always repeats. Then Boehner can send it to him and say "if this is what you are going to say, don't bother we've heard it all" and attach a nice sheet of paper with the times each idea has been repeated.

surely it will leak to the press and at least the foreign press will cover it

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (k1rwm)

194
yep, the speech, I suspect, is nothing more than recriminations, excuses, and fake resolve.


Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:47 PM (G/zuv)

195 I've thought deeply about this for about two minutes now and I've come to the conclusion that Obama is like a biblical plague, sent by the leftist deity (no, the other one) to reset civilization. That's probably how they came up with the term. You know, a direct line to zombie Marx, or something.


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (jx2j9)

196
It's gonna be a campaign speech filled with populist rhetoric and partisan slander.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (G/zuv)

197 Boehner shot put a Jumbotron with the debate running full blast in the chamber

Posted by: ronno at August 31, 2011 02:48 PM (nQR0p)

198 Hey, its their House, they can do pretty much what they want. Sparky is the executive, he can give all the speeches he wants from the big WH. He can pre empt TeeVee programming (thank God only the Networks programming). But what he can't do is demand a session with Congress on his terms. He can be invited to speak to the House if they so defer. Man up Boehner, tell Sparkyyou have more important plans on that date. Tell him his re-election speach can heardon 9/11. Hell, he's been on vacation forever, what difference does a day make? Jeebus - its nothing but bad luck and crazy terrorists in his little mind.

BTW - when did he start hating terrorists? Dey just be some guys in the neighborhood. Jeebus. This pompous ass makes me want to spank something young and sweet.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (0M3AQ)

199 Rush just said on his show that Boehner should just say No. We all know Boehner does not have the cajones to say No. But, maybe, just maybe he will say No for that night and propose a different night - hopefully earlier than the Repub debate.

Posted by: ugknown at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (fOPv7)

200 "It's a no win for the republicans, no matter what they do, he has them in a box. And it's their own damned fault."

This makes absolutely no sense. The GOP's fault is what, exactly?

They need to have a debate. Obama is the president, so he's got the bully pulpit if he chooses to abuse it for antidemocratic purposes.

What did the GOP do wrong here? Nothing. It's difficult to counter this kind of petty BS, but it's not like it's going to help Obama much. Most people who are even aware of politics enough to watch a debate at this stage are going to know what Obama did.

Sorry, but you're actually seeing this issue from the stupidest possible direction. It's a no-win for the democrats. They get to cheer a little at their clever little child president, but the GOP gets fired up and they get more debates anyway. And frankly, if Perry isn't perfect in his first debate, the risks just went way way down. He can relax and see this as a warm up.

It's outrageous that Obama disrespects democracy, but this petty shit is not going to save his presidency. You're being way way too dramatic, and I don't think you really understand this topic.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (fF625)

201 The problem is that if Republicans say "no," then Obama comes back with "You keep asking where my plan is, and now that I want to give it to you, you won't let me."

Posted by: Caiwyn at August 31, 2011 02:49 PM (ttktr)

202
If Boehner was smart, he'd say sorry, Jay Carney, but that's the day we'll be censuring Maxine Waters and Andre Carson.


Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (G/zuv)

203
Boehner should simply make a short statement along the lines of "The president said he would have a plan to create jobs when he finally returned from vacation on Martha's Vinyard. Another speech saying the same old things doesn't cut it, he promised the American people a plan, and we're waiting for his plan. Of course we always listen to the president if he wants to speak, but there's not much sense in him making yet another speech until we've seen his detailed, written jobs plan which he promised the American people."

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (Xm1aB)

204 Equal branches and all right...

Boehhner should tell him that he can deliver his proposals to a joint session if he wishes, but, it will require allowing for another on camera, prime time, blanket party session from Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, whoever wants to attend, once they can disect the new proposals (have to keep from laughing hysterically) and offer reality based rebuttal solutions.

Posted by: things that should, but will never happen at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (2DyCU)

205 Also, no doubt the President thinks that this thing plays his way. He bigfoots the Republican debate with some smarmy platitudes and gets his buddy Brian Williams to ask each of the Republicans why they can't support the Mom and Apple Pie that the President has just proposed. Or, Boehner says no and RACIST!!!

He thinks he has the measure of Boehner, and he also thinks his water is well and dutifully carried.

This may be one of those things where the cocooning misleads the President. But likely he gets his bigfoot. Boehner doesn't have the balls.




Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (Fw2Gg)

206 161
Not to break the topic on what a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure Carney is....but this is an excellent article written by Hassan Nurullah, who I believe is an ex-muzzie Christian.


He is and he is absolutely a great conservative writer and an eloquent and learned apologist for Christ.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2011 02:51 PM (T2/zQ)

207 Boehner should make him a counter offer. Negotiate! Tell SCOAMF that if gives the speech without a teleprompter or any other mechanical aid, then he'll reschedule.


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:51 PM (jx2j9)

208 The problem is that if Republicans say "no," then Obama comes back with
"You keep asking where my plan is, and now that I want to give it to
you, you won't let me."

Ask him for a written copy and promise to have William Shatner read it publicly.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:52 PM (rxez/)

209 201 The problem is that if Republicans say "no," then Obama comes back with "You keep asking where my plan is, and now that I want to give it to you, you won't let me."

Tell him to get his terrorist buddy to write it up and we will all read it like his book.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 02:52 PM (0M3AQ)

210 can nanny p challenge boehner if he says no? Can she put it to a vote or something?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (k1rwm)

211 Darrell Issa should hand Obama a subpoena as soon as he takes the podium. The mike should be turned off until Obama releases the documents demanded. As in, they should all sit there awkwardly until Issa actually gets exactly what he's asking for.

Make a huge ugly spectacle out of it. The House has no reputation to lose, anyway, and our presidential nominee will be a DC outsider who is not affected.

Obama wants to mud wrestle? Mud wrestle him.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (fF625)

212 We can expect stunt after stunt. Michelle will announce her pregnancy in a year, or whatever (I'm kidding). It's going to be endless manufactured drama.

I don't want my baby punished with Michelle...
I mean, I don't want my daughters punished with a baby...

Posted by: SCOAMF at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (0fUOB)

213 Anyone stupid enough to believe the timing is, as Carney said, "coincidental" is stupid enough to vote to re-elect this hack.

Unfortunately, that's at least 40% of the voting population of this once-great nation.

Posted by: DocJ at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (AWzOz)

214 @210 It must really hurt to be so damned stupid and useless.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (UOM48)

215 210
can nanny p challenge boehner if he says no? Can she put it to a vote
or something?

No, curious, she may not.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:54 PM (o2lIv)

216 Here's a question - Has a Repub-controlled House ever refused a presidential request for a joint session? If a presidential joint session request has never been refused in the past, Boehner will certainly not break with precedent. However, he could propose another date.

Posted by: ugknown at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (fOPv7)

217
Joint sessions are reserved for special occasions and important speeches.

Joint sessions aren't for Obama's political whimsy.


Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (G/zuv)

218 Let's see:
Blah blah blah I blah blah blah green jobs blah blah blah me blah blah blah competetive blah blah blah my blah blah blah dependence on oil blah blah blah Iblah blah blah me blah blah blah climate change blah blah blah my blah blah blah I blah blah blah me blah blah blah job training blah blah blah my blah blah blah fairness blah blah blah I blah blah blah Joe Biden's leadership blah blah blah me blah blah blah my blah blah blah headwinds blah blah blah I partisanship blah blah blah me blah blah blah win the future blah blah blah my blah blah blah previous administration blah blah blah God Bless America.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (B+qrE)

219 I think he's going to do more than try and steal the Republicans thunder. I think he's going to trot out the mega-mortgage-refi plan that's been floating around. $850 billion in stimulus over 10 years, 10 million homeowners 'saved', ...etc. Something like that will suck all the air out of the room. It would fit with something Bill Daley would do...or at least his friend Bob Rubin would suggest doing. It seems like a trap...

Posted by: w at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (/6LAD)

220 Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:50 PM (Fw2Gg)

this is why he put the republican in a box. btw, I'm not in any way supporting our current WH resident rather, I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political check mate the academics in the WH have put the Republicans in.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (k1rwm)

221 can nanny p challenge boehner if he says no? Can she put it to a vote or something?

You have no comprehension on the House works? No, she can’t. The Speaker sets the agenda.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (OWjjx)

222 Ask him for a written copy and promise to have William Shatner read it publicly.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:52 PM (rxez/)

Some. Say. Thathtereisnohope. Others. Say. Thattherearenoanswers. I. REJECT. Theoldways.

Posted by: WILLIAM. SHATNER. at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (RD7QR)

223 214 @210 It must really hurt to be so damned stupid and useless.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:53 PM (UOM4
It should, but I doubt she has enough functioning braincells for any to be pain receptors.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (GULKT)

224 Been at lunch. Has anyone mentioned that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure, yet?

Yes?

Good.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (8y9MW)

225 How can he claim he's proposing a "bi-partisan" solution, btw? Which Republicans are giving him cover on that claim?

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (5H6zj)

226 @220

You have to be the most stupid person capable of using a keyboard in the history........

F*ck you.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (Xm1aB)

227
Dear God, please make me the official spokesman for the GOP just for an hour.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (G/zuv)

228 Tell him that the pubbies are going to Martha's Vineyardto meet with fatcat CEOs with Lear Jets to find out what his plan is.

Token is really trying to punch up. Ain't he?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (0M3AQ)

229 The right thing to do is for Boehner to extend an invitation for a different night. But he won't.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (Fw2Gg)

230 can nanny p challenge boehner if he says no? Can she put it to a vote or something?

Why would she do that? Didn't you just say it was lose-lose, you fucking retard?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (OK/vv)

231 I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political
check mate the academics in the WH have put the Republicans in.

Here's a challenge. Go to hell.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (QKKT0)

232 Again, Boehner should agree as long as SCOAMF agrees not to use a teleprompter. Give and take.

It would never happen in a million years.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (jx2j9)

233

Obama possesses such great respect for the Speaker:

ChadPergram:












Boehner's office only got the
Obama request asking for a Joint Session of Congress, 15 minutes before
the notice went out to the press.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 02:57 PM (o2lIv)

234 Its a good thing Al Gore hasn't teamed up with the JEF, otherwise they would have the repubs in not just a box, but a lock box!!!!11!!!1!!1!!eleven!!!

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (qZD43)

235 How can he claim he's proposing a "bi-partisan" solution, btw? Which Republicans are giving him cover on that claim?

Hello, my friends!

Posted by: Sen. John McCain (R - In Name Only) at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (tqwMN)

236 Preznit Pleasing Soundbites.

You nailed it, Ace.

It may turn out to be his new reelection strategy, that of one to be chanting pleasing soundbites, seem above the fray, the uncle sugar stuff dripping from his lips, relentlessly telling us about all the free stuff we'll get if we just vote him back in.

Figuring he is starting with almost 50 percent of the voters as-is, all he needs is a few more.

Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (4sQwu)

237 About now would be nice for empire of jeff to chime in!

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (0fUOB)

238 I'm now convinced that curious is a chimp sitting in Media Matters headquarters with a laptop and a box of Cheetos.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (UOM48)

239 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 02:56 PM (8y9MW)

Come again?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (jx2j9)

240 If I were Boehner, er, Speaker of The House, dealing with such an incompetent, unscrupulous adversary, I'd respond with a request for an outline of Obama's jobs plan, in writing, and an estimated time for how long he will take to deliver it, and then promise to get back to him with available dates. Maybe throw in something about how his last "Presidential address" to the nation was a campaign speech and that the People's House is not for campaign speeches. Something respectful but full of snark.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (4zKCA)

241 I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political check mate the academics in the WH have put the Republicans in.
November 6,2012.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (B+qrE)

242
nood post

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (G/zuv)

243 >>this is why he put the republican in a box. btw, I'm not in any way supporting our current WH resident rather, I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political check mate the academics in the WH have put the Republicans in.

He didn't put anybody in a box. Anybody with a functioning brain realizes that this is naked politics from an increasingly unpopular president.

The solution is easy. Just say no. Or they could really put the pressure on Dumbo and have Boehner come out and say that it America has waited long enough for Obama to put out his plan when so many people are hurting, we will accommodate him on Tuesday.

Unless of course Barry has a fundraiser to attend.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (TMB3S)

244 btw, I'm not in any way supporting our current WH
resident rather, I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of
the political check mate the academics in the WH have put the
Republicans in. Posted by: city gal

Bullshit, you are an O-fan. Don't bother with the protest.

2nd, I gave you and the GOP the answer; schedule the session at 8 AM.

GOP wins.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (s1vtf)

245 You know you guys are really stuck in a conservative universe. I bet you only have conservative friends too. That's not good. You need to get out more and talk to real Americans who don't really pay much attention to politics. If you did that, you'd be able to come up with the solution to boehner's and mcconnels conundrum quickly and save the day.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (k1rwm)

246 I'll hand to Obama, this is unprecedented.

Posted by: polynikes at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (s0uvO)

247 There's no way out of check-mate Dum Dum.

Posted by: eleven at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (7DB+a)

248 how dare those republicans schedule their debate when Obama wants to have a joint session. what selfish bitches they are.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (ggRof)

249 @241 Well played Sir, Well played.

Posted by: ugknown at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (fOPv7)

250 this is why he put the republican in a box. btw, I'm not in any way supporting our current WH resident rather, I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political check mate the academics in the WH have put the Republicans in.
Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 02:55 PM (k1rwm)
Just because you, the dumbest fucking person on the blog, thinks that Obama has them in checkmate, which is itself hilarious becaue the only thing you probably know about chess is that its the game with the horsey pieces, doesn't mean he has them in a lose/lose situation. You are absolutely clueless on things like this (ie Everything) and have no actual understanding. And your "friends" are just as dumb on these things as you have regularly shown.
Shut up troll.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (GULKT)

251 Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 02:59 PM (s1vtf)

oh please there are countless posts here where I say I'm not a BO supporter and I didn't vote for him....you can look it up.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (k1rwm)

252 OT: but this is important, Bigfoot is pulling off runners feet and throwing them in the river again in BC.
Another human foot washes ashore in B.C.
http://tinyurl.com/3kogefn

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (MtwBb)

253 November 6,2012.

Can't come soon enough.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (5H6zj)

254 JackStraw that is it - they should check the schedule and give him an invite that conflicts with a big fundraiser!

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (Fw2Gg)

255 Figuring he is starting with almost 50 percent of the voters as-is, all he needs is a few more.

Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor at August 31, 2011 02:58 PM (4sQwu)
I guess this means we weren't the ones we had been waiting for.
Damn. I was sure we were.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (jx2j9)

256 How's that Stupid universe you're stuck in city gal? Do they make you wear that helmet all the time?

Posted by: polynikes at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (s0uvO)

257 247
There's no way out of check-mate Dum Dum.

Posted by: eleven at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (7DB+a)
I was under the impression that the rules are different in 5 dimensional chess.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (k1rwm)

258 232 Again, Boehner should agree as long as SCOAMF agrees not to use a teleprompter. Give and take.It would never happen in a million years.

The way to handle it is to have a malfunction with the teleprompter 3 minutes into the speech. Its our turf. Electronic devices are subject to EMI. It can be arranged easily.

Then we all get to watch SCOAMF stutter in a cluster fuck manner endlessly.

C'mon on down Sparky. You get door number 3!

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (0M3AQ)

259 Whats sad is if you had just a fraction of the friends (and not dead or fake ones like me) you wouldn't have to be a spammer here.

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (qZD43)

260 Looks like situation normal here.

Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure and troll weirdos are still stinkin the joint up.


Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:03 PM (4CSeG)

261 oh please there are countless posts here wherei say i'm not a BO supporter andi didn't vote for him. just like Obama i would never lie.

Posted by: city whore at August 31, 2011 03:03 PM (ggRof)

262 You need to get out more and talk to real Americans who don't really pay much attention to politics. If you did that, you'd be able to come up with the solution to boehner's and mcconnels conundrum quickly and save the day.

Isn't that a contradiction?Americans don't pay attention to politics and if we talked to those said non-political Americans we could come up with a solution to a political conundrum and save the day?Lady? You're nuts...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 31, 2011 03:03 PM (OVCfn)

263 oh please there are countless posts here where I say I'm not a BO supporter and I didn't vote for him....you can look it up.

Posted by: city gal

And you are lying in each one.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (s1vtf)

264 SCoaMF wants this to happen in front of Congress so every time he says 'raise taxes...to be fair' the Dems jump out of their seats and give a series of standing o's. Then, the MFM can say 'see? The American people are clearly for higher taxes to save us, but the GOP knuckle draggers are intent on killing this country.' It's pure theater. A speech before a joint session of Congress (that isn't the State of the Union address) should be for big, serious issues only, and it should be a rare event. Since Obama has no intention of letting America be America, he shouldn't be allowed to make his speech in Congress.

Posted by: Joejm65 at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (diQWH)

265 New thread up. This one reeks of cat pee. And stupidity.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM48)

266 245 You know you guys are really stuck in a conservative universe. I bet you only have conservative friends too. That's not good. You need to get out more and talk to real Americans who don't really pay much attention to politics. If you did that, you'd be able to come up with the solution to boehner's and mcconnels conundrum quickly and save the day.
Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (k1rwm)
Says the dumbass skank who's only friends are shitbrained liberals that think Ron Paul is a serious candidate. Your friends are not a real cross section of Americans, not even politically uninterested ones. And just because you think they are in a bind doesn't mean they are you lying stupid fuck.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (GULKT)

267 Could Boehner request an advanced copy of the speech?

Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (6IV8T)

268 I'd like to see Joe Wilson yell "YOU SCOAMF!", just to watch the media "fact-checking" types heads explode.

Posted by: Breaker19 at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (WCm02)

269 You know you guys are really stuck in a conservative universe.
It's called reality. You know, the place where fifth grade math isn't characterized as "unfair."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (B+qrE)

270 Rep. Jeff Flake: "I'm glad the President has called this joint session and I hope we hear something new."

There is your Republican response.

Posted by: Spiker at August 31, 2011 03:04 PM (4t9J5)

271 Boehner can let him have the date, just tell him that, due to House business, the Joint session will occur at 2 a.m.

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (0iXge)

272 How about a live-blog format debate? They set up a TV screen with the president giving his speech behind a podium with a couple of teleprompters out front. Then pause the speech and give the candidates a chance to respond point by point. At least we could see who can think on their feet.

Posted by: Heorot at August 31, 2011 03:05 PM (Nq/UF)

273 Barry's planwill save or create 30 gajillion jobs and is so super important that it's on hold for a week

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (1Jaio)

274 Rep. Jeff Flake: "I'm glad the President has called this joint session and I hope we hear something new."

Really? wow, just wow...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (OVCfn)

275 Is the presidential debate now considered sacrosanct, or can Obama pull a Carter and try not to debate the GOP nominee?

He can try it, but it would be suicide, politically. Rick Perry could get away with it in Texas for two reasons: 1) He didn't "refuse to debate" he simply set a specific precondition (Bill White had to release his Tax Records from when Kneepads was in office) and refused to debate until that condition was met. 2) Texas was already very predisposed to vote for him.

It wasn't necessary, but helped, that Bill White's refusals to release the tax records were all so petulant.

Obama will have none of those advantages.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (8y9MW)

276 You know, looking at this another way, this chickenshit move really shows how desperate Obama is.

I mean, look, he can do his speech pretty much when he wants. We can't stop that and, frankly, we shouldn't want to stop that. Every time he opens his yap he loses more independents and half the time he winds up pissing off some of his most lunatic base, too.

So he is doing this scheduling thing like a petulant child. It doesn't change anything. There's nothing he's going to say or do that will weaken Perry or Romney, his two strongest challengers at this point.

Boehner should call him out for his partisan political move AND call him out on the lie that he is doing anything bi-partisan, but even if somehow Obama "wins" and screws up this debate broadcast, so what? It changes nothing.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (5H6zj)

277 Fuck you Jay Carney. We know exactly what you little fuckers are doing so don't try your bullshit.

Boehner just say fuck off.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (iYbLN)

278
Apart from the mischief regarding the Republican debate, the underlying purpose of this is to provide a venue for browbeating and lecturing Congressional Republicans like he did SCOTUS without the opportunity to reply. Thus, the answer should be NO.
Obama's got a junior high mentality. Its time for the Rs to start pointing out how ridiculous it is. This would be a good start.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 31, 2011 03:06 PM (qwK3S)

279 You know you guys are really stuck in a conservative universe. I bet
you only have conservative friends too. That's not good. You need to
get out more and talk to real Americans who don't really pay much
attention to politics. If you did that, you'd be able to come up with
the solution to boehner's and mcconnels conundrum quickly and save the
day.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:00 PM (k1rwm)

If I ever become convinced that most people are like you and your imaginary friends I'll be too busy putting out cigarettes in my eyes to do much talking.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (4CSeG)

280 I'm challenging you guys to come up with a way out of the political check mate

If it is a "check-mate" then by definition there ISN'T any way out of it, you silly bitch.

I would have thought that among your many, many "friends" at least THREE of them would be Grandmaster-class players.

Of course, you don't have any real friends, because you're a fat girl that never leaves the house. And you smell like Funyuns and loneliness.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 31, 2011 03:07 PM (P4jkT)

281 oh please there are countless posts here where I say I'm not a BO supporter and I didn't vote for him....you can look it up.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:01 PM (k1rwm)

Countless posts...are the problem.

Posted by: Not One Bit Curious at August 31, 2011 03:08 PM (BO5ap)

282 Fellow travellers in the conservative bubblesphere. I confess that for the past five decades I have never had a conversation with a liberal. I didn't grow up surrounded by them, I didn't work with them, I didn't have them as teachers or neighbors or bosses. No one in my family was or is a liberal. I never lived in liberal cities or states. I never read the Washington Post or the Boston Globe or watched MSNBC. My best friends growing up didn't wind up being Democrat county council members or members of CAIR or live on communes or any of that. My life has been one continuous protective bubble.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (5H6zj)

283 And you smell like Funyuns and loneliness.
That there is pure poetry.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (/lKQw)

284 You need to get out more and talk to real Americans who don't really pay
much attention to politics. If you did that, you'd be able to come up
with the solution to boehner's and mcconnels conundrum quickly and save
the day.

Just like you did, huh, you fucking numbskull.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (OK/vv)

285 If only someone anonymous on the internet could tell me what real Liberals and Independents think.


Who could this savior be?

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:11 PM (5H6zj)

286 SCOAMF is just like the Reese Witherspoon's character in Election. God, what an annoying, transparent weasel fucker.

I just insulted weasels, so sorry. They deserve better.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 03:12 PM (iYbLN)

287 I do think my theory is correct. I mean how else could someone who claims to be single, young, and has big tits, and gainfully employed not at least be engaged? Especially since it spends so much time attending parties with lots of people. Obviously its because it won't date older men and wants a stupid guy around her own age, but there must obviously be something preventing them from wanting anything more thana bootycall.
So my theory is that the dumb troll got knocked up in high school, and since mommy and daddy are loaded they paid for nannies for its one or two rugrats while it finished school and went to college.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (GULKT)

288 283
And you smell like Funyuns and loneliness.
That there is pure poetry.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 03:10 PM (/lKQw)
*waves to Dumb_Blonde: Selfish Bitch™*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (UOM48)

289 Annnnnd.....EOJ does it again!!!!!!!!!!!

New monitor over here sir.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (iYbLN)

290 I wish I was surrounded by liberals and independents who could give me the down-low scoop on such things as the Great Democrat Landslide of 2010.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (OK/vv)

291 @286
We prefer "mink." Thank you.

Posted by: Weasel Antidefamation League at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (5H6zj)

292 Even though I've been saying 'no, no, no' to this speech, something to consider: the ratings for his speeches have dropped since 2009, and every time he's discussed the economy lately, the markets have tanked. What could this mean for next Tuesday? Perhaps people won't watch, and those that do will panic over what he says. If the WH thinks those are good optics, then maybe he should give the speech. Sometimes we give this idiot advance credit for being effective, when his real track record is one of historic failure. If he's gonna fail with this speech, maybe it's not a bad idea to let him fail big.

Posted by: Joejm65 at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (diQWH)

293 Heh! So glad e of j weighed in!

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2011 03:14 PM (0fUOB)

294 We should take great comfort from the desperation Obama is showing. Sure, he can be a total prick and preempt our debate, but he wouldn't even need to do that if his candidacy wasn't in deep trouble.

He'll win this battle, but it's a pointless battle in the big picture. It's a battle he is creating because he is losing his reelection bid and it's extremely early. He's desperate this far in advance.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:15 PM (fF625)

295 There's absolutely no reason for the Republicans to agree to a joint session speech for anything less than war/national emergency. Even the SOTU should be delivered in writing.
That, being said, I think maybe the R's best response to any Obama proposal going forward should just be "Let's run that by the rating agencies first." Before they turn Congress over to his dipshit proposals: "Yeah? That's an interesting idea. What does SP have to say about it?"

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 31, 2011 03:15 PM (7EV/g)

296 Who the f*ck is masochistic enough to listen to the droning nitwit that inhabits the White House? It's not like he will actually say anything besides his usual posturing and finger wagging.
I never though I'd respect a president less than I respected Clinton but I was unfortunately very very wrong. (Carter was a bit before my time).

Posted by: AdamM at August 31, 2011 03:17 PM (/83rF)

297 I've had all the conversations and interactions with liberals I ever need to have.

I don't pet skunks and rattlesnakes.
I don't pet scorpions or spiders.

And I don't talk to stupid fucking liberals.

I find the thought of them stealing my child's future while simultaneously calling me a racist bigot God-bothering simpleton homophobe precludes much if not all of the possible conversation.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:18 PM (4CSeG)

298 I really don't think we should worry about the curious troll.

It's self defeating. It's Obama who is checkmated by reality, and his preemption of the debate is his desperate move to avoid reality. We are already winning, because it's likely Obama will not be reelected.

What's Curious talking about? Some pointless petty thing like preempting the debate? Yeah, it's unpatriotic and irritating as hell, but it's not the big picture. It's proof Obama is a desperate loser. How in the world does that amount to a check mate?

Curious is really mad, for some reason. I think because Obama is a failure.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:18 PM (fF625)

299 I hear loneliness smells like chicken.

Posted by: polynikes at August 31, 2011 03:18 PM (s0uvO)

300 Curious is really mad, for some reason. I think because Obama is a failure.

Or she can't get rid of that annoying vag infection no matter what she puts up her pooter.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 03:20 PM (iYbLN)

301 What would the JEF do if the Texan tossed out selecting Herman Cain as his running mate?

I know it's not likely, I am just wondering out loud, in public.

Posted by: sTevo at August 31, 2011 03:21 PM (FzVlt)

302 Lonliness smells a lot like the back of an old Volkswagen that someone puked in about 15 years ago and tried to clean it up but it never really goes away.

Mixed with some old spilled cat litter under the passenger seat.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:21 PM (4CSeG)

303 Mmmm. Funyuns.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at August 31, 2011 03:22 PM (QKKT0)

304 Can hardly wait for the 9/11 anniversary, so we can all be told again that 9/11 only affected NYCers.

Seriously. Can't wait.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:23 PM (UOM48)

305 Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 03:13 PM (GULKT)

i picture you as a short fat little man who doesn't know how to be satisfied with anyone or anything.

how close did I come?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (k1rwm)

306
Dear diary,

Oh goody, so glad the Pres. decided give a speech in a joint session.

Wonder who I can take to the "prom" this time. I really, really, really hope I get to sit next to some super nice Dem again.

Oh, what am I gonna wear???

Posted by: Jeff Flake and the rest of the Repubes at August 31, 2011 03:25 PM (2DyCU)

307 i picture you as a short fat little man who doesn't know how to be satisfied with anyone or anything.


looks like the feisty one of the group has the helm of the curious hash today.

sassy.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:25 PM (4CSeG)

308 you know I want to thank you guys for the hours of entertainment. I mean you are just as interesting as the guy who live camed the hurricane crazy....

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:26 PM (k1rwm)

309 And I know a lot of democrats who vote for Rick Perry.

It's true. The guy is capable of winning over democrats by simply being an undramatic professional administrator with a good spirit.

I don't think many Republicans will vote for Obama.

I don't know who Curious is talking to. I bet nobody. Folks I talk to think Perry would be a better president than Obama has been. 100% of them, including many morons who voted for Obama. This is going to be a landslide election.

That's why we're seeing such irritating behavior from Obama. This kind of petty crap 'let me interrupt them on TV! LOL LOL LOL!!!!' is the best the democrats have. That's their strategy.

Checkmate? Checkmate my ass. Obama isn't running for student counsel. He's the reason your cousin or son can't get a fucking job. This is not the kind of shit you can trick your way out of.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:26 PM (fF625)

310 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (k1rwm)

What does "checkmate" mean, shit-for-brains?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:26 PM (OK/vv)

311 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (k1rwm)

Low hanging curveball alert!

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 03:27 PM (QKKT0)

312 city gal
about as close as you came to finally shaving your armpits

Posted by: kj at August 31, 2011 03:27 PM (Pzadr)

313 looks like the feisty one of the group has the helm of the curious hash today.

Yep. Wonder when the one who cries to mom has its shift.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:27 PM (OK/vv)

314 you know I want to thank you guys for the hours of
entertainment. I mean you are just as interesting as the guy who live
camed the hurricane crazy....


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:26 PM (k1rwm)
And you are as entertaining as a tape worm on a wedding cake.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:27 PM (4CSeG)

315 Oh come on Jane, don't you love hearing the memory of me being used to score political points on a blog?

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 03:29 PM (qZD43)

316 "you know I want to thank you guys for the hours of entertainment. "

Oh, you're one of those trolls. You clearly hate us and came here simply to be a dick, and then you pretend you had a good time doing it.

Nobody who engages in drastic partisan hackery is having fun. It's just ugliness. You see the problems our country has and ignore them to be a hack for Obama, going so far as to pretend to not be an Obama supporter because you are insecure about how narrow his appeal is these days.

I suppose the idea in saying you're happy is that you assume everyone hates you as much as you hate us, so your happiness is somehow an extra punishment for us. A) we know you're miserable B) you're projecting.

And oh what you're projecting. We're confident going into the election, and you're projecting how awful it makes you feel to see that.

Like I said, I'm glad there's at least one or two trolls left. Most of you guys gave up. Thanks for keeping it interesting. You're in for a hell of a bad couple of years.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:30 PM (fF625)

317 oh geez, guys you have to start thinking or 'put on your thinking caps" as my mom always says. He's and his party, have all the cards. He can even influence the republican primaries. You guys have to really think out of the box, get out or your republican/conservative always do the right thing do gooder skins that they expect you to adhere to and start playing the game. They see it as a game. You guys see it as your life. You need to see it as a game otherwise they'll win again.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:31 PM (k1rwm)

318 As if anyone watches Obama speeches who doesn't have him in a death pool.

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 31, 2011 03:32 PM (e36+G)

319 A) Carney should be bitch slapped until his cheeks bleed for that 'permission' jerkoffery.
B) We ARE talking about the GOP here... right? *sigh*

Posted by: chuck in st paul at August 31, 2011 03:34 PM (EhYdw)

320 Boehner will probably cave. It's what he does.

Posted by: RickS at August 31, 2011 03:35 PM (rkYJv)

321 oh geez, guys you have to start thinking or 'put on your thinking caps"
as my mom always says. He's and his party, have all the cards. He can
even influence the republican primaries. You guys have to really think
out of the box, get out or your republican/conservative always do the
right thing do gooder skins that they expect you to adhere to and start
playing the game. They see it as a game. You guys see it as your
life. You need to see it as a game otherwise they'll win again.

Hey, Shit-stain, this is no game.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:35 PM (4CSeG)

322 Wow, that sounded like one of my motivational speeches. I used to give them all the time, until i jumped out of a tower when i had a vision of the future and saw what one of my girls would turn out like. That whole plane hitting the building thing was just a background event actually.

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 03:35 PM (qZD43)

323 "oh geez, guys you have to start thinking or 'put on your thinking caps" as my mom always says. "

He's losing the election. Petty games are not going to change that. His behavior is no more important than your trolling is.

It's actually going to fire up the right. The left will not be enthusiastic about this, and the middle isn't going to notice.

I'm still waiting for you to attempt to make a point that shows you have any understanding of the world we live in.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:36 PM (fF625)

324 Boehner should just issue a statement that this is animportant issueand since the president is already a few days behind schedule he needs to do it as soon as possible. Afterall, he is indicating that he is ready to propose his plan, err his outline, um, his pontifying speech to congress and thepeople-why nottonight, tomorrow, Friday... over the weekend --as least not any laterthan Labor Day (he's probably campaining in front of a union crowd that day anyway)... when he does speak, congress can just watch it on TV like everyone else. Just think howwe'd all be better off. And from the administration's side- they can spin it out that heis giving congressthose extra daysso they canput together a plan of action before they return.
But, then again, we are dealing with Boehner and others like him... they'll roll over and whimpertheir submission and not onlyschedulefor it, call any of thenominees unamerican andunpatrioticwho suggests that the presidentreconsider.
And "a coincidence"? I can only see it as either incompetent planners (who should be fired, but I repeat myself), or, more likely,blatantpolitical grandstanding and interference.

Posted by: Dilligas at August 31, 2011 03:36 PM (HhjUQ)

325 You need to play the game where you're in a box and checkmate doesn't mean it's over!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:36 PM (OK/vv)

326 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:30 PM (fF625)

I'm not a troll and if I had to worry about getting paid to post on the internet I would be in a sad state indeed. I'm an American born independent voter. I'm here cause you guys have to hear what independents are saying and doing. And I have a line into the NY liberal pulse. I really do like you all. I did not vote for BO. I think you are a bunch of very nice lovely people and I truly really don't understand why you went from liking and accepting me to attacking me. You claim it is cause I spoke the truth. Americans has forgotten 9/11 and I'm not backing down from that one. New Yorkers live with it every single day.

Besides, go back read my posts from day 1 and you will find that a lot of what you guys thought were my "crazy ideas" have in fact come to fruition. Makes you wonder how I know so much and pisses you off that I do.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:37 PM (k1rwm)

327 my mom invented the phrase "put on your thinking caps".

Posted by: shitty gal at August 31, 2011 03:38 PM (OK/vv)

328 What an incredibly short memory you have.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 03:38 PM (UOM48)

329 Remember when Curious moaned and whined and cried about people being upset she lied about her porn link?

Now it's all a trivial game. Then it was a pool of tears and drama.

Something tells me this person is mainly motivated to simply oppose everybody here, out of resentment for petty internet drama.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:39 PM (fF625)

330 Besides, go back read my posts from day 1 and you will find that a lot
of what you guys thought were my "crazy ideas" have in fact come to
fruition. Makes you wonder how I know so much and pisses you off that I
do.

Like the 2010 Dem landslide, huh?

Nothing you say comes true, because you're a provincial fucking idiot who thinks the world revolves around what it and and its tiny circle of mouthbreathing leftard dipshits in NYC think and do.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:40 PM (OK/vv)

331 327
my mom invented the phrase "put on your thinking jimmy caps..after she had me".

FIFY.

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at August 31, 2011 03:40 PM (9hSKh)

332 "Besides, go back read my posts from day 1 and
you will find that a lot of what you guys thought were my "crazy ideas"
have in fact come to fruition. Makes you wonder how I know so much and
pisses you off that I do.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:37 PM (k1rwm)"Not true. You have consistently predicted just about everything completely wrong. You then vaguely take credit for everything that happens and insist that proves you're right about your next wrong prediction.It's how a baby argues. Why are you so worried about your reputation here? It's pathetic.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:41 PM (fF625)

333 327
my mom invented the phrase "put on your thinking caps".


Posted by: shitty gal at August 31, 2011 03:38 PM (OK/vv)
I just asked her where she got it and she said it's from a show she watched as a kid and then she wrote me this

"romper bomper stomper boo, tell me tell me tell me do, magic mirror tell me today, have all my friends had fun at play".
she said all my internet friends who are her age would recognize this

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:41 PM (k1rwm)

334 Your filter break again, you lying fuckwit?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:42 PM (OK/vv)

335 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:41 PM (fF625)

not really. If you examine my posts I'm right most of the time. But, since you want me to be wrong, cause you have decided you don't like me, you have made this up in your head.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:43 PM (k1rwm)

336 nudge

Posted by: sigh at August 31, 2011 03:43 PM (tPbl7)

337 I think Boehner should remove the teleprompter. Fight petty with petty.

Change the rules of the house that teleprompter speeches are not permissible in the House. It's important our little elitists actually have a clue what their speeches were. Let Obama speak from the heart.

They should have done this a while ago. What's Obama going to do about it? Probably give the speech elsewhere.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:44 PM (fF625)

338 You guys see it as your life. You need to see it as a game otherwise they'll win again.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:31 PM (k1rwm)

You are so full of profound insights. Is everyone in the Bronx as smart as you?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 03:44 PM (QKKT0)

339
city gal
exactly how many men have you turned gay?

Posted by: kj at August 31, 2011 03:45 PM (Pzadr)

340 If you examine my posts I'm right most of the time.

Add "hopelessly delusional" to "incredibly stupid".

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:46 PM (OK/vv)

341 Boehner should just issue a statement that this is animportant
issueand since the president is already a few days behind schedule he
needs to do it as soon as possible.

Yeah, that may be a good strategy. Build up the expectations for Obama's speech and let him do his usual thing and fail to deliver. But I think I read that this is the first anniversary of the last promise he made to deliver a jobs plan, so it's been more than a few days behind schedule. It's been twelve months.

The more I digest this move, the less it concerns me. He's desperate. We're winning. He can flail about all he wants, but it doesn't change anything.

The man is afraid to let people hear Republican ideas. That's not a sign of strength.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:46 PM (5H6zj)

342 I think Boehner's nuts if he doesn't do this. Here's why:

Barry-O's recent bloviatings have posted miserable Nielsen ratings. John Q has figured out that there nothing but meaningless drivel coming out of his mouth and he's not even tuning in any more.

What the voters DO want is to hear what Republicans have to offer. There's been a lot of hype about the Republicans lately and I think given a choice Americans will go for what they see as the future rather than the old news that is BHO. The upshot would be that Rep ratings would be greater than those for the pResident. I can't imagine a bigger embarrassment for the Imposter-in-Chief.

I say, go for it, Boehner.

Posted by: creeper at August 31, 2011 03:46 PM (gre5a)

343 "not really. If you examine my posts I'm right most of the time. "

I have and you're lying. You are like Dick Morris, only you pretend you heard things from friends at parties, which is really childish.

You predict a lot of stuff, so you'd think you at least get some stuff right from the sheer volume. But you don't.

Here, for example, you are predicting Obama has a checkmate on the right. It's ridiculous. Any look at the polls shows once again your observation is an error.

You spend so much time telling us how you're right, and how you're amazing, but you wouldn't have to do that if you were impressive. What's funny is that you clearly are very worried about your reputation here.

I recall when you cried and moaned that people held it against you for lying about your NSFW link. Wow, you take your little internet reputation so seriously. You know who doesn't do that? Normal people.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:46 PM (fF625)

344 I assume Congress-critters don't have to show up for the speech, right? I mean, Paul and Bachmann will go to the debate instead, won't they?

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:47 PM (5H6zj)

345 Did someone mention Bigfoot on this site?
What if Bigfoot is a genetic hybrid createdby ancient astronauts from a distant galaxy usingthe basic genetic structure of Cro-Magnon? What if they can grow to bethirty feet tall and harbor the strength of five hundred very strong men? Was it these creaturesthat built the Great Pyramid of Giza?What if theyare currently thriving as a societywithintheMammoth Cave system?Are theyour friends? Are they our enemies, waiting for an attacksignal from Quetzcoatl, hovering in a ship capapable of travelling across galaxies?Would every baby Bigfoot's dick be bigger than Milton Berle's dick?Questions like these make myhair stand up. Perhaps the debate should start there.

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at August 31, 2011 03:50 PM (gMONh)

346 cat piss.

Posted by: sifty: N UR BASE, STEEPIN UR T at August 31, 2011 03:50 PM (4CSeG)

347 "He was on vacation for ten days. He has promised this "plan" (now more of an "outline," it turns out) for two months."

No. He promised this "plan" before his last visit to Martha's Vineyard, a year or so ago.

Posted by: Justin Credible at August 31, 2011 03:51 PM (3rwFl)

348 The candidates should do a Player-Haters-Ball-style Photo Flip. (see youtube.com/watch?v=fKXwj7ZrHIc)

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at August 31, 2011 03:51 PM (qndXR)

349 @mlcalderone:
John Harris tells me NBC/Politico's GOP presidential debate will be
after Obama is done.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 03:52 PM (o2lIv)

350 "344
I assume Congress-critters don't have to show up for the speech, right?
I mean, Paul and Bachmann will go to the debate instead, won't they?



Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 03:47 PM (5H6zj)"
I wouldn't be surprised if they are criticized by some idiot for that.No, they don't have to be there. Frankly, the entire GOP field should stay away, just to highlight that something more important is occurring. They can say how weird it is that Obama waited and waited and then suddenly needed to speak right when the GOP debate is occurring, but they are going to watch the debate that was planned for months. They should even ask Obama to repeat his speech later, since he picked a bad time to present it.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:52 PM (fF625)

351 You are so full of profound insights. Is everyone in the Bronx as smart as you?


Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 03:44 PM (QKKT0)

i wouldn't know I don't really know anyone from the Knox. the furthest person I know lives with 4 roommates in Washington Heights.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:54 PM (k1rwm)

352 what are you going to do when there is no plan. when the joint session on live tv is just a campaign speech? If you guys don't get a grip your blood pressure will go up and you'll have to go on meds.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:55 PM (k1rwm)

353 I think that the Republican debaters should come to the House and sit where SCOTUS normally sit and let them shout out comments to the lying SOB's speech. Things like "You Lie" or "You have got to be shitting me". Also "Allahu Akbar" would give the speech a little more personal tone for the prez. Another one would be "Where's the beef"? "Liar liar pants on fire" always gets a laugh in the House when thrown at a Demorat since it is like calling water wet. Come on Boehner use your imagination for God and the country's sake!

Posted by: inspectorudy at August 31, 2011 03:56 PM (KOOZL)

354 the furthest person I know lives with 4 roommates in Washington Heights.



Yet somehow it's incredibly important that we know what this
inconsequentially tiny sliver of humanity you're in touch with thinks.
Amirite?



You have no idea how fundamentally ridiculous you are, do you?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:57 PM (OK/vv)

355 "when the joint session on live tv is just a campaign speech?"

You mean like the last fifty speeches?

We will enjoy gains in the polls. Same as last time. We will discuss the various leaders on the right.

You're the one lacking a productive outlet. Your idea of activism is to troll and lie and post porn links as a joke.

Many of us have something a lot more satisfying than that in mind. Working for candidates. Canvassing. Etc.

You have a small world. Must be pretty weird. You're obsessed with self promotion as a commenter on a blog, and even everyone at that blog can't stand you. You really don't get it.

I actually wonder if you're older than 15.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:58 PM (fF625)

356 Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 03:57 PM (OK/vv)

I know that I seem to make you very upset. so much so that my friends are worrying about you and your blood pressure. And I really don't know why. Are you always this angry? Like in real life? Are you that guy in the office?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 03:59 PM (k1rwm)

357 Obama: What a dick.
And I quote Mark Halperin, so it's not racist.

Posted by: Biblio at August 31, 2011 04:00 PM (y5VNb)

358 An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama.

Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass.
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse.
He’s always on a dissemblers course.
Talk to Barack Obama.

Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a single thing he has to say?

An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk in prevaricating circles til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?

Well listen to this.

He is Barack Obama.

Posted by: CheshireCat at August 31, 2011 04:01 PM (parIF)

359 You have a small world. Must be pretty weird.
You're obsessed with self promotion as a commenter on a blog, and even
everyone at that blog can't stand you. You really don't get it.

I actually wonder if you're older than 15.


Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 03:58 PM (fF625)

You know I have given little hints about my life in my posts. But some of you crafted a surrealistic scenario of who I am and would prefer that person.
NY is a big city and I've been to higher education so I have a vast list serv of friends all over the country. In actuality what people in st. louis are saying is not much different from what people in ny are saying. but you guys seem to want to think that somehow the st. louis folks count more and their thoughts mean more.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:02 PM (k1rwm)

360 Your dad left because you make him sad. And then he beats me.

Please get out of my basement and get a life.

And I hate you, too.

Posted by: curious/city gal's mom at August 31, 2011 04:02 PM (UOM48)

361 360
Your dad left because you make him sad. And then he beats me.

Please get out of my basement and get a life.

And I hate you, too.


Posted by: curious/city gal's mom at August 31, 2011 04:02 PM (UOM4
now that is funny. You got my friend's absolutely hysterical with that one tweeting me "if they only knew" comments.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:04 PM (k1rwm)

362 In actuality what people in st. louis are saying is not much different from what people in ny are saying.

How would you know anyone from St. Louis? You just got through saying you don't know anyone further away than Washington Heights.

You fucking liar.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:05 PM (OK/vv)

363 I know I'm late to this party but I just have to comment.

Obama has been reduced to this kind of bullying, a seventh-grader put in charge of the classroom telling the other seventh-graders, "I'm in charge here!"

The other seventh-graders -- and I'm talking Republicans -- need to stand up tell this little twerp he's got exactly five minutes to get out of the teacher's chair and go back to Row 1, seat 1.

Interpretation: not a single Republican should show up for Obama's joint session. Worry not the least about it appearing partisan. Just go on as if you're laying the groundwork for the next president. That's how we all need to start acting, like we're no longer concerned about the man in front of the classroom. He is, as Sarah P put it not so long ago, a lame duck.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 31, 2011 04:06 PM (deaac)

364 You fucking liar.


Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:05 PM (OK/vv)
no I said I don't know anyone in the bronx, the furthest friend lives in Washington Heights with three super models.

You have to learn how to read better.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:07 PM (k1rwm)

365 You have to learn how to read better.

Is St. Louis further than Washington Heights?

You fucking imbecile.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:08 PM (OK/vv)

366 "I've been to higher education so I have a vast list serv of friends all over the country."

I doubt it. You are not a successful person. It just isn't possible. You have no life. You are so concerned with your reputation as an internet persona, and it's just pathetic. You have nothing in your life to satisfy you other than trolling.

You know I'm right. I don't hate you for it. I don't feel sorry for you either. Losers like you are very lucky to have something to do with at least some interaction. You never were going to be successful, so you're lucky to live in this era where your failure doesn't mean total isolation. Continue crying and clawing for internet drama. It's the best your life is going to be.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:08 PM (fF625)

367 Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 31, 2011 04:06 PM (deaac)

didn't ace have a post about how the American people didn't like the budget debate process? So if the republicans don't show up they will be seen as the same mean spirited SOB's who ruined the budget process.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:09 PM (k1rwm)

368
mkhammer
Mary Katharine Ham:



Ha, that about says it. RT @pwire: "The most
gratuitously -- and
joyously! -- dickish move of his presidency." http://tinyurl.com/3td4l58

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 04:09 PM (o2lIv)

369 Did your incredibly amazing education include any geography?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:09 PM (OK/vv)

370 NY is a big city and I've been to higher education

She/it delivered a pizza to a dorm at Columbia once.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 04:12 PM (QKKT0)

371 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2011 04:13 PM (1Nzoh)

372 Just looking at social media, everyone is calling Obama dickish and taking a page out of Mean Girls.

Just another prediction Curious got 100% wrong.

The real grassroots have already reacted to this perfectly, laughing at pathetic girly president Obama for being a petty prick. I'm not funny, but enough of my like minded grassroots are, and we don't need a central planner to give out talking points, so the reaction is swift and very effective.

Obama has already lost even this little game of his. It's going to become a major narrative.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:14 PM (fF625)

373 Miss80sbaby beat me to the point, but that's what I'm talking about.

Obama can't compete with grassroots. He pulls a stunt, it's called a stunt right then and there, free of the MSM filter. They have no control over what people will think of this.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:15 PM (fF625)

374 Ok, I'm not sure if this was suggested already but how about Boehner dotee-shirts for the occasion (one over each chair) and all members of the House and Senate are given little pads of paper and a little souvenir golf pencil in order to take notes on the monumental plan SCOAMF has in store for us.
So while SCOAMF is speaking everybody can be looking down trying to keep up with the note taking or playing Obama Speech Bingo.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 31, 2011 04:15 PM (9U1OG)

375 Someone should blast the theme song from the Mean Girls movie when Obama takes the podium.

They should all laugh at him after someone calls him a baby, and then walk out of the room.

Every interview with the GOP should include someone calling Obama pathetic for this childish behavior.

"There's a reason Clinton and Bush didn't act this way. It's just pathetic."

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:18 PM (fF625)

376 Ok, I'm not sure if this was suggested already but how about Boehner dotee-shirts for the occasion

As long as they're SCOAMF T-shirts.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:18 PM (OK/vv)

377 Lucky for us we have a Mean Girls expert that can tell us how her school was the source for it all!

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 04:19 PM (qZD43)

378 Absolutely, they need to be SCOAMF shirts and free advertising for Ace while we're at it.
I thought the golf pencil was a nice touch. What's the name of the golf course at Andrews Air Force Base where he plays the most?

Posted by: Jaimo at August 31, 2011 04:19 PM (9U1OG)

379
SCOAMF is just like the Reese Witherspoon's character in Election. God, what an annoying, transparent weasel fucker.

Except he's doing his best to pass out more than sticks of Wrigley's Doublemint.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 31, 2011 04:19 PM (ycuSb)

380

ChadPergram
Chad Pergram












In a letter, Boehner asks
Obama to speak to Congress on September 8th instead.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 04:21 PM (o2lIv)

381
Obama: I got nothin' on jobs for my speech. I need a way out.
Advisor: Have it on the same day, same time,as the Republican Debate. They'll make a stink, and you'll come out looking golden, and can rag on them for an hour about how partisan they are. And bonus? No one will listen to you, so they won't notice you have nothing on jobs. Again.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at August 31, 2011 04:21 PM (hHgxI)

382 What's next for Barry the Mean Girl?

Is he going to put gum in Rick Perry's hair? Is he going to pull out a vuvuzuela during the debates? Is he going to buzz Austin with Air Force 1?

And after he loses, is he going to TP the white house? I'm sure his staff will trash the equipment like Bill Clinton's did.

And of course, he'll say someone's name, pause for ten seconds, and give one of those 'subtle' middle finger moves. Sooooo clever!

Meanwhile, Joe and Sally can't get a job to feed their fucking family!

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:24 PM (fF625)

383 "No one will listen to you, so they won't notice you have nothing on jobs. Again.


Posted by: Starboardhelm"

You are 100% correct. The way Obama is handling his job speech presents a huge distraction from the content of the speech. People will be talking about how dickish it was to time it this way, especially his critics, leaving far less time to analyze that he's got no leadership on the real issue.

It makes perfect sense, and reeks of desperation.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:26 PM (fF625)

384 The GOP should NOT reschedule. Let the Nielsen Ratings be an indication of whom the American people are interested in hearing and seeing.

Posted by: Jimbo at August 31, 2011 04:27 PM (O3R/2)

385 Posted by: Jimbo at August 31, 2011 04:27 PM (O3R/2)

most people will watch the president and TIVO the republicans for a later time. If the events are held at the same time, which is becoming less and less of a probability.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:29 PM (k1rwm)

386 No "Romper Room" in my house. The were commie pinkos. It was all Capt. Kangaroo or nothing. That Dancin" Bear was wicked cool.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 04:29 PM (iYbLN)

387 "
most people will watch the president and TIVO
the republicans for a later time. If the events are held at the same
time, which is becoming less and less of a probability.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:29 PM (k1rwm)"
Bzzzzzt. Wrong wrong wrong.Everyone knows what Obama will say. The debates are much more interesting. Even die hard democrats would rather watch the debates.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:30 PM (fF625)

388 Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 04:29 PM (iYbLN)

thank you. my mom couldn't remember the name of the program. she said "this is from our sesame street". I don't think she watched captain kangaroo but I'll ask.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:30 PM (k1rwm)

389 Hell, even Obama thinks the debates are interesting, hence the effort to chip away at that.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:30 PM (fF625)

390 NY is a big city and I've been to higher education

"been to higher education" doesn't mean walking through the campus quad. To be blunt, who the fuck cares??

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 04:31 PM (iYbLN)

391
Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:30 PM (fF625)

ok, well if they remain at the same time, we'll look at the over nights.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:32 PM (k1rwm)

392 390
NY is a big city and I've been to higher education

"been to higher education" doesn't mean walking through the campus quad. To be blunt, who the fuck cares??


Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 31, 2011 04:31 PM (iYbLN)
\it was in response to something a person said. But you keep the meme up, it's what keeps you guys going in life obviously. I mean "got to make the donuts" is replaced with you guys as "got to get rid of that young thinking person on ace's blog, there's no room for her, only people old in body or old in mind are welcome there"

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:34 PM (k1rwm)

393 "ok, well if they remain at the same time, we'll look at the over nights.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:32 PM (k1rwm)"Say, you just contradicted yourself.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:34 PM (fF625)

394 " I mean "got to make the donuts" is replaced with you guys as "got to
get rid of that young thinking person on ace's blog, there's no room for
her"

Oh, you're crying again? Can you go back to pretending you don't care? The crying is so much more annoying.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:34 PM (fF625)

395 Say, you just contradicted yourself.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:34 PM (fF625)
not really, I granted you your point I believe. It is possible that things have gotten so bad for the president that the American people would rather watch the republican debate. If that is the case I'm sure no one around him would be willing to tell him that though.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:35 PM (k1rwm)

396 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:34 PM (fF625)

statement of fact, no crying.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:36 PM (k1rwm)

397 it's a moot point, see ace's most recent post.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:39 PM (k1rwm)

398 "statement of fact, no crying.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:36 PM (k1rwm)"
You're such a victim. Oh poor baby. Poor poor baby. The internet is serious business.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:41 PM (fF625)

399 398
"statement of fact, no crying.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:36 PM (k1rwm)"
You're such a victim. Oh poor baby. Poor poor baby. The internet is serious business.


Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:41 PM (fF625)
not a victim. It's interesting watching all of you react to me, sort of conservative republican mob mentality. And, mostly because I don't spout the same ideas you want me to spout and because I won't vote for perry, palin or mittens. I'm feeling as though I won't be voting.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:44 PM (k1rwm)

400 And, mostly because I don't spout the same ideas you want me to spout

No, mostly because you're an idiot with a hilariously-overinflated sense of your own importance and intelligence.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:48 PM (OK/vv)

401 Wow, so does that mean you're checkmated inside a box and thus can give up following politics and thereforecan give up trolling/spamming a nice website?

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 04:49 PM (qZD43)

402 "No, mostly because you're an idiot with a hilariously-overinflated sense of your own importance and intelligence.


Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:48 PM (OK/vv)"
90% of its comments are "I am great" and "I say X will happen because of my special insight".It's pathetic.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:51 PM (fF625)

403 Plus, NBC holds all the cards here, they are hosting the debate. They will reschedule.

Is this a prediction you'll claim as accurate, shitty gal?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:51 PM (OK/vv)

404 And of course when a lefty or moby loses and argument, they resort to 'oh you just are intolerant!'

No, you lost the argument, Curious. Again. You couldn't hold your own. You are not entitled to people pretending your argument didn't suck. It's not some tragedy of intolerance of an echo chamber when your arguments are given a fair hearing and then rejected.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:52 PM (fF625)

405 "Is this a prediction you'll claim as accurate, shitty gal?


Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 04:51 PM (OK/vv)"It's gotten more predictions wrong in this thread alone than most of us will get wrong in our entire lives.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:53 PM (fF625)

406 I mean "got to make the donuts" is replaced with you guys as "got to get rid of that young thinking person on ace's blog, there's no room for her, only people old in body or old in mind are welcome there"
Oh my gawd that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Bwahahahah ... Thinking person? Stop it. You're killing me here.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 04:53 PM (/lKQw)

407 317 ...do gooder skins..._________
Sometimes I think she's sending coded messages.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2011 04:57 PM (xGZ+b)

408 I'm feeling as though I won't be voting.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:44 PM (k1rwm)

Thank you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:03 PM (UOM48)

409 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:52 PM (fF625)

i don't come here to argue. I come to read ace's thoughts and then sometimes go onto the comments.


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:05 PM (k1rwm)

410 Oh, Curious is talking about itself again.

So important and interesting. Such a poor poor victim, too. So special.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:06 PM (fF625)

411 409
Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 04:52 PM (fF625)

i don't come here to argue. I come to read ace's thoughts, link porn and then sometimes go onto the comments.




Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:05 PM (k1rwm)
FIFY

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:07 PM (UOM48)

412 You know, curious, do you remember back in the day when someone would get all wiry and I would defend you because you were a regular and had some valuable insights?

Do you know why I stopped doing that?

Because you built up a long list of poor insights, irrelevant links and comments, objectively bad ideas, provincially ignorant comments, rudeness and passive-aggressive attacks on others.

And now, even if you had a *really* good idea, most people wouldn't notice it because you have, through your own actions, created a *reflexive* negative response in others.

Also, BTW, that wasn't what happened today. You did make one good point about so many people losing homes and jobs and burning up their savings not willing to go with the "same old" from the Dems, but it wasn't what you opened with and also it was pretty obvious, honestly, and you didn't go anywhere with it.

It's sad, really.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 31, 2011 05:08 PM (bxiXv)

413 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:03 PM (UOM4

what you really have to worry about jane is that a lot of independents will feel the same way and the dems will vote with reckless abandon. But hey it's ok for the Republicans and conservatives to forget that most people lie in the middle. What's the worst thing that can happen really, what 4 more years? Cause really right now perry looks like BO in white with over colored hair just like BO originally did. And mittens looks like the same fool. And they are doing a great job of marginalizing palin. Only cain, bachman and santorum look normal and they are too conservative for regular people. So someone better come riding in on a white horse, someone who appeals to that "squishy middle" or you guys will have 4 more years of complaining bitterly.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (k1rwm)

414 Oh my gawd that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Bwahahahah ... Thinking person? Stop it. You're killing me here.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 04:53 PM (/lKQw)

She meant "young-thinking," as in we clearly need more inexperience in the political process, because it's worked out so well for us in the past.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 31, 2011 05:10 PM (bxiXv)

415 Voting with reckless abandon? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

I guess it's another amazing prediction.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 05:11 PM (OK/vv)

416
Is the stupid skank that got knocked up in high school still yapping on here? Cause Boehner owned your stupid "lose/lose" idea and shot Obama down.
So get bent you stupid troll, because we don't need your idiotic "insights." We can come up with them ourselves because all we need to do is go "what would a complete fucking retard think?" and we know exactly what a New Yorker's ideas would be.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 05:11 PM (GULKT)

417 But I thought you didn't like the SCOAMF so wouldn't you be complaining with us for the next 4 years too?
And how the flying f*ck does Rick Perry look like a white Obama?

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 05:13 PM (qZD43)

418 Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 05:11 PM (GULKT)

OMG so I was right yous are a bitter short fat complaining man who is never satisfied with anyone or anything!

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:13 PM (k1rwm)

419 #413 has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on the internet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:13 PM (UOM48)

420 It's interesting that Boehner beat Obama specifically because he did not treat his job like it's a game. He did the exact opposite of what City Gal recommended, and it was clearly the right move.

It's interesting just how concentrated Curious/City's errors are today. It wouldn't be possible to be that wrong if you tried. It's like one error contains many other errors, in a huge ball of contradiction and stupid.

Checkmate? It didn't really even matter, since it was a desperate move to begin with. Nothing more pathetic than a dickish Mean Girl brand president. This is supposed to be the most powerful man in the world.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:15 PM (fF625)

421 419
#413 has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on the internet.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:13 PM (UOM4
you don't get out much do you? and you obviously never go near the daily kos.
btw, everyone in town knew o'really's wife was "stepping out" on him....was he the last to know.....

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:15 PM (k1rwm)

422 But hey it's ok for the Republicans and conservatives to forget that most people lie in the middle.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (k1rwm)

Almost all of the "independents" I've managed to get to enumerate their beliefs fall solidly on one side of the other, in the aggregate, because the American political system has evolved away from the stratified classist system of Europe into one more influence by philosophical differences (admittedly more like 5 groups than 2).

However, there is a large contingent who have to should "I'M MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'M A SWING VOTER! DO WHAT I WANT!" It's a scam for a lot of them.

There are also the ones who actually have one set of beliefs but for whatever reason (truculence, ignorance, petulance) don't identify with people who share those ideas.

Then there's the half of the electorate who don't bother to vote.

These are all *problems*, but none of them are problems properly solved by voting for Huntsman.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 31, 2011 05:16 PM (bxiXv)

423 You're so funny. I've lived and traveled all over the world.

And who the hell gives a damn about Bill O'Reilly?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM48)

424 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:15 PM (fF625)

you are counting your chickens preemptively.

you haven't gotten BO's response yet, have you?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:17 PM (k1rwm)

425 "also it was pretty obvious, honestly, and you didn't go anywhere with it.





It's sad, really.

Posted by: Merovign"

A lot of internet experts will say something obvious and act as though they have proven amazing insight.

I guess that would be Curious's high point today.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:17 PM (fF625)

426 OMG so I was right yous are a bitter short fat complaining man who is never satisfied with anyone or anything!
Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:13 PM (k1rwm)

It's such a shock that everyone is so MEEEEEEAAAAAN to you.

Somebody call Sherlock Holmes to figure it out for us.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 31, 2011 05:17 PM (bxiXv)

427 "you are counting your chickens preemptively."

You're the one who said checkmate. Then we see the real move, and I predict Obama will lose on this petty game and you announce that this is... a prediction.

Yes, I am preempting the result with an intuition. Congratulations for this brilliant analysis. Unlike you, my prediction is correct.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:18 PM (fF625)

428 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:18 PM (fF625)

I think he will give his speech but not to a joint session of congress.

NBC will not host the debate, it will be cancelled and moved to another time.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:19 PM (k1rwm)

429 Again if you had a fraction of the friends you claim, let alone employment,how do you have time to spam here and read kos and find all those links you don't read but spam here?

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 05:19 PM (qZD43)

430 dustin I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling you that he decided to give his speech on that day and time and he will give his speech on that day and time, he wont' budge. And brian williams and NBC will do anything in their power to make sure he is the only wedding in the place....period.

once you see this, you can better understand what is going on.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:21 PM (k1rwm)

431 I think he will give his speech but not to a joint session of congress.NBC will not host the debate, it will be cancelled and moved to another time.

Is this your super-final prediction about what will happen? You've had about sixteen so far.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 05:22 PM (OK/vv)

432 You can tell Curious knows I'm right.

All that joy in its comments before, when all the left thought Obama had masterminded a brilliant political move... that's all gone now. All the mobies and trolls are sad, mad, dejected now.

'Checkmate!!!!' has turned into 'you don't know... sob sob sniff... maybe Obama will figure out a way to look good for being a dickish mean girl president sniff sniff'

It's hilarious. Curious is displeased.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:22 PM (fF625)

433 "Is this your super-final prediction about what will happen? You've had about sixteen so far.


Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 05:22 PM (OK/vv)"
She's also copying what ace said. I think she realizes she's too stupid to opine intelligently, but for some reason, is hoping to salvage a reputation here, because the internet is serious business and everything.So she just waits for Ace to say something and copies that.Yes, of course Obama will make a dramatic spectacle out of it. He didn't need congress's permission to give a speech. So what?

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:24 PM (fF625)

434 once you see this, you can better understand what is going on.

This after you conceded comparing ratings was a moot point because Boehner was asking for the President's speech to move.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 31, 2011 05:24 PM (OK/vv)

435 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:22 PM (fF625)

I would like nothing better than for boehner and mcconnell to win this round, however, I think he is going to play the "i'm the president of the United States" card and play it.

Look, networks have told presidents, sorry before, but if I'm not mistaken it's been republican presidents.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:27 PM (k1rwm)

436 okies got a conference call...ttyl.....

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:28 PM (k1rwm)

437 I'm guessing Obama asked for this date hoping
Boehner said no. That way he could then claim that Republicans are
puting politics over jobs.Everything with this White House is viewed through the prism of politics.

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (wuv1c)
Chris Hann (D-Idiocracy) used this talking point on Gerry Willis's show. "Politics over jobs" is almost an exact quote.

Posted by: ExExZonie at August 31, 2011 05:30 PM (HhqrH)

438 436
okies got a conference call...ttyl.....


Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:28 PM (k1rwm)In your dreams. Hilarious! That's up there with making some stupid comment one morning several months ago, and excusing yourself because you were on the road, drinking champagne.
lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:31 PM (UOM48)

439 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (k1rwm)
You're not an independent shit for brains. You're an idiotic New York liberal that's too stupid to understand the meaning of words so you have no clue what independent actually means.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 05:37 PM (GULKT)

440 Thats just the code words for the shift change. Spamming a blog 24/7 takes a few people to accomplish unless its a computer program made by the MIT people but thats not possible since no computer would everbe that stupid.

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 05:40 PM (qZD43)

441 Don't get mad at it, Buzzion.

Imagine if the internet was as important to you as it is to Curious. All that crying and moaning and striving.

It's not a pretty picture. Whatever sin Curious is guilty of here, I suspect it is paying the price for many times over in living out a wasted existence.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 05:41 PM (fF625)

442 The top thread smells like cat pee now. Short "conference call."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:41 PM (UOM48)

443 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 05:31 PM (UOM4

Isn't jealousy one of the 7 deadly sins or something. I know you're really old and you probably have lots of regrets.

and people travel the world in different ways, some go to 5 star hotels and others hostels.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 07:11 PM (k1rwm)

444 I like City Gal.

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445 Took me time to read all the comments, but I really enjoyed the article. It proved to be Very helpful to me and I am sure to all the commenters here! It’s always nice when you can not only be informed, but also entertained!

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Posted by: lusefer at September 02, 2011 06:17 AM (4VYvr)

447 strike

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