Top Headline Comments 7-14-11

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:09 AM



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1 I mean it.

Posted by: President Bluffs-Me-Not at July 14, 2011 07:14 AM (MMC8r)

2 I'm first or I'm walking out of these negotiations!

Posted by: Baby Barry at July 14, 2011 07:16 AM (OCwW6)

3 How they get more traffic.

Posted by: sTevo at July 14, 2011 07:16 AM (VMcEw)

4 Dont Call My Bluff? Huh?
http://bit.ly/qVHdMQ

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:18 AM (sYHDc)

5 Don't lecture me.

Posted by: sTevo at July 14, 2011 07:20 AM (VMcEw)

6 what a thinned skinned bastard in the White House. Call his bluff and then stick it to him, but good!

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:20 AM (i6RpT)

7 Dont Call My Bluff? Huh?http://bit.ly/qVHdMQ

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:18 AM (sYHDc)
That was my first thought when I heard what he said. King Idiot.

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2011 07:22 AM (X6akg)

8 Laconic.

Posted by: toby928 at July 14, 2011 07:23 AM (GTbGH)

9 I'm taking my ball (if Michelle lets me) and going home!

Posted by: Barry S at July 14, 2011 07:23 AM (8yPsP)

10 From the Senior Citizen's point of view,

I DARE the Dick to withhold my Social Security check.

We're not stupid.

Posted by: franksalterego at July 14, 2011 07:23 AM (7/sDI)

11 Happy Bastille Day, everybody!
The Boston Tea Party was mild compared to what might have happened had our forefathers been jacked up on espresso.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at July 14, 2011 07:24 AM (/Cz3M)

12 I have to imagine it isn't that he revealed he was bluffing, but rather he's an idiot who doesn't really understand poker.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 14, 2011 07:25 AM (FkKjr)

13 There is talk of a Camp David Summit this weekend? Memo to the Republicans: DON'T GO. Talk about a home field advantage

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:25 AM (i6RpT)

14 I'm taking my ball (if Michelle lets me) and going home!
Your balls have been in Michelle's purse ever since she became your beard.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at July 14, 2011 07:26 AM (/Cz3M)

15 I have to imagine it isn't that he revealed he was bluffing, but rather he's an idiot who doesn't really understand poker.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 14, 2011 07:25 AM (FkKjr)

Or Economics, or Foreign Policy, or The Middle East, or Yada Yada Yada

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:27 AM (i6RpT)

16 There is talk of a Camp David Summit this weekend? Memo to the Republicans: DON'T GO. Talk about a home field advantage
I'm off to Camp David everybody!

Posted by: John Boehner at July 14, 2011 07:28 AM (FkKjr)

17 If Obama goes to Camp David, boner should keep the House in session - debating the details..

Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2011 07:28 AM (C/Pop)

18 This will work better this time...

http://bit.ly/r8qKTK

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:29 AM (sYHDc)

19 A hour and a half is a long time to go without a cigarette. Kinda make one a little cranky.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 07:31 AM (0K+Kw)

20 I have to imagine it isn't that he revealed he was bluffing, but rather he's an idiot who doesn't really understand poker. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 14, 2011 07:25 AM (FkKjr) Or Economics, or Foreign Policy, or The Middle East, or Yada Yada Yada Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:27 AM (i6RpT)
Or the words he uses.

Of course the Rs favor a short-term solution--They know they'll get a much better deal after the 2012 elections when Dick is sent off to share an economy apartment with Jimmah.

I'm thinking this is about him trying to lock in D policies for as long as he can, and maybe make old people think that GOP robots are coming to steal their medicine to salvage something for 2012.

Posted by: President Bluffs-Me-Not at July 14, 2011 07:33 AM (MMC8r)

21 /sock

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 07:34 AM (MMC8r)

22 I'm picturing a Charlie Cheswick like outburst. Off to the Presidential electroconvulsive therapy chamber!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2011 07:35 AM (DPM1U)

23 GOP negotiating skills:

Olson Johnson: Hold it, men. He's not bluffing.



Dr. Sam Johnson: Listen to him, men. He's just crazy enough to do it!


. . .

Ooh, baby, you are so talented!
[looks into the camera] And they are so *dumb*!

Posted by: AE at July 14, 2011 07:35 AM (YYjeh)

24 Boehner: Dealing With the White House 'Has Been Like Dealing With Jell-o'

http://abcn.ws/o2d9JS

It was Jell-o; it was damn near liquid.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:35 AM (sYHDc)

25 Anyone seen the latest on "Gunwalker?" An internal ATF email seems to support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun control.

Holder and the entire top echelon of ATF and DOJ should be shit-canned, if not indicted. But the $64,000 question is 'what did the President know and when did he know it?"

(as if he'll be impeached)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 14, 2011 07:36 AM (UlUS4)

26 13 There is talk of a Camp David Summit this weekend? Memo to the Republicans: DON'T GO. Talk about a home field advantage.
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:25 AM (i6RpT)
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Not if they hold it in the chapel. Obama's never been there.

Posted by: Larry Dickman at July 14, 2011 07:38 AM (JpBHP)

27 25
Anyone seen the latest on "Gunwalker?" An internal ATF email seems to
support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun
control.

Not now, we're trying to convince old people the Republicans are going to make them penniless and eating catfood by August 2.

Posted by: MFM at July 14, 2011 07:41 AM (GZitp)

28 Not if they hold it in the chapel. Obama's never been there.

Posted by: Larry Dickman at July 14, 2011 07:38 AM (JpBHP)


They can hold it in a "mikvah" and Eric Cantor can, er, baptize, King Hussein of Hyde Park.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 14, 2011 07:41 AM (UlUS4)

29 Brave Sir Barry ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Barry turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Barry!

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 07:42 AM (MMC8r)

30
Boehner, the only card you need is the Ace of Spades.
It'll be interesting when Treasury paper is rated Aaa--as Obama would say, that's good enough for government work.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 14, 2011 07:42 AM (DPM1U)

31 Morning all sorry I'm late. My internet connection was down until just now. I guess they had to do some maintenance after the big thunder boomer yesterday.

Anyway, FF this morning was totally in the tank with Obama and the SP/Moody's pushing for downgrade BS.

Folks the only news we have anymore is the internet. Fox is no longer intermediate, they are completely in the tank.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 07:45 AM (M9Ie6)

32 We are about to pop the $1 trillion deficit mark for the third year in a
row, with 2.5 months left in this fiscal year. King Putz is throwing a
hissy over cuts that amount to maybe 15% of these annual amounts. Of
course, those cuts are mainly smoke and mirrors and come in later years.



Tell us again Dear Reader about how the recession ended over 2 years ago
and those evil Repubs are now about to wreck 'this thing of ours'. Give us another speech.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2011 07:45 AM (ENKCw)

33 A hour and a half is a long time to go without a little nose candy. Kinda makes one a little cranky.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 07:46 AM (0K+Kw)

34 OK, here's a question that maybe the morons who are economists can put me some knowledge:
If you are a large holder of US debt, do you want to see the debt ceiling raised, not raised, or do you really care?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 14, 2011 07:47 AM (FkKjr)

35


The Donald adds his voice with the morons: don't cave. He
knows where the peeps are. And, Cantor's shown he is THE adult in the room. I'm beginning to have a fraction of a scintilla of
hope.


Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 14, 2011 07:49 AM (bZ8J6)

36 I'm beginning to have a fraction of a scintilla of hope.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 14, 2011 07:49 AM (bZ8J6)

I'm not sure if I should call you an optimist or a dreamer?

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:51 AM (i6RpT)

37 Hey, I've got a great idea. Let's suggest the next round of negotiations be held on airborne Marine 1. Maybe he will walk out in a huff again.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2011 07:51 AM (ENKCw)

38 One thing that FF said this morning that really got my goat was a statement by SP. They said it didn't matter if ALL the interest payments were made and SS and other payments, IF they did not reach a "deal" they would still consider downgrading U.S. debt.

That tells you right there they do not give a flying shit about the real stuff, it is all political posturing. Besides, as I said yesterday, our debt has already been "downgraded" when everyone quit buying bonds at the current interest rates and the Chinese unloaded.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 07:56 AM (M9Ie6)

39 A hour and a half is a long time to gowithout a bottle of Grey Goose. Kinda makes on a little cranky.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 07:56 AM (0K+Kw)

40 Eric Cantor Is the Democrats New Boogeyman

http://nyti.ms/o7j9tK


For Mr. Cantor, being cast as the Republican boogeyman by national Democrats is a double-edged sword.
In
some ways, his advisers acknowledge that he can wear the criticism like
a badge of honor that enhances his credibility among conservative
voters in his district and with conservative colleagues in the House.
When
you are getting attacked and lambasted on the national level by the
Democrats, it has a certain effect with base voters and online people,
said a Republican official on Capitol Hill. They tend to like that.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:57 AM (sYHDc)

41

36 I'm beginning to have a fraction of a scintilla of hope.



Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 14, 2011 07:49 AM (bZ8J6)



I'm not sure if I should call you an optimist or a dreamer?



Posted
by: nevergiveup at July 14, 2011 07:51 AM (i6RpT)



Maybe its just gas. Im not sure what hope feels like.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at July 14, 2011 07:57 AM (bZ8J6)

42 A hour and a half is a long time to go without a bottle of Grey Goose. Kinda makes on a little cranky.Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 07:56 AM (0K+Kw) Case is sounding like the future, retired version of Reactionary... This darn work stuff really cuts in on my drinking time.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:00 AM (xUM1Q)

43 LOL, at the Fox website concerning the Vapid one's petulance and posturing:
President Obama walked out of the high-level negotiations, saying
according to a Republican aide, "I've reached my limit. This may bring
my presidency down, but I won't yield on this."

hahahahaha; if that were only true. He knows he is shielded by blackdemocratium and has ALL of the press in his back pocket (except for those who have latched on to his crotch).

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:00 AM (M9Ie6)

44 Maybe its just gas. Im not sure what hope feels like.

If I'm experiencing this correctly, 'Hope' feels like an umbrella in your colon-- 'Change' is the BenGay they used to lube it.

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 08:00 AM (MMC8r)

45 19 A hour and a half is a long time to go without a cigarette. Kinda make one a little cranky.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 07:31 AM (0K+Kw)
Tell me the fuck about it! I've gone about five and a half months. Keep waiting for it to get easier. No wonder I enjoy the more-than-occasional nickel cigar.

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:01 AM (K2wpv)

46 Does anyone trust the rating agencies after the MBS debacle, I am convinced that they rate the little guys (small states, corporate bonds, etc), but the big guys ( US Gov, CALPERS, Wall St.) get to "negoiate" their own score.

Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2011 08:01 AM (C/Pop)

47 Look, lets talk about the NFL...

Posted by: Barry S at July 14, 2011 08:04 AM (8yPsP)

48 How long before Eric Cantor is said to be in bed with "New York money fat-cats?"


Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan. Please pick up the courtesy phone...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 14, 2011 08:04 AM (UlUS4)

49 Tell me the fuck about it! I've
gone about five and a half months. Keep waiting for it to get easier.
No wonder I enjoy the more-than-occasional nickel cigar.

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:01 AM (K2wpv)
I quit smoking about 5 years ago after my heart attack (nothing like a little wake-up call). It gets easier the longer you go but you NEVER get over totally. Sometimes even now I get hit with a sudden urge to smoke a cigarette.
I did find that during the first 6 months it was a lot better to avoid bars where people were smoking around you while drinking.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:04 AM (M9Ie6)

50 34 OK, here's a question that maybe the morons who are economists can put me some knowledge:
If you are a large holder of US debt, do you want to see the debt ceiling raised, not raised, or do you really care?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 14, 2011 07:47 AM (FkKjr)
The increase in the debt ceiling does not matter even a little. The real issue is how the US will prioritize its obligations.
We bring in about $200B in revenue per month. Interest on the debt is about $29B. Medicare? $49B. SS is $40B. SSI and other such progs are about $30B. Food stamps is only $4B. Tricare and veterans benefits are about $6B.
We're still fine. Even if we never borrow another penny. We can cover all these obligations for some time with plenty left over.
IF we choose to.

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:05 AM (K2wpv)

51 Barack 'No Drama' Obama makes a stand on debt and finally loses his cool

It has taken two and a half years, but Barack "no drama" Obama has finally lost his cool.


http://tgr.ph/pi1zsY


Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 08:06 AM (sYHDc)

52 what can Bambi say to Cantor? Cantor is a Jew so if Bambi trashes him, he is a racist.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 14, 2011 08:06 AM (VIqi1)

53 I did find that during the first 6 months it was a lot better to avoid bars where people were smoking around you while drinking.
Good news, then! The only public establishments in MA and RIwhere the state allows smoking are the state-run casinos!

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:07 AM (K2wpv)

54 I have no problems with the Jews, or blaming them for the Middle Easts Problems..

Therefore, I have no problem with one in my way..

Posted by: Barry S at July 14, 2011 08:08 AM (8yPsP)

55 Don't call me Bluff!

Posted by: Obama at July 14, 2011 08:08 AM (lpWVn)

56 Has anyone mentioned that Eric Cantor...
is a joooooo?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:08 AM (B+qrE)

57 Bluffy Obama

Obama lit him up. Cantor sat in stunned silence, said an official in the meeting. It was incredible. If the public saw Obama he would win in a landslide.



Posted by: politico anonymous "official" at July 14, 2011 08:10 AM (lpWVn)

58 Also, I have been unable to find anything in the rulebook for Go Fish that mentions bluffing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:10 AM (B+qrE)

59 Who broke the sidebar? did Barry do it during his temper tantrum?

I'm so glad a man with thin skin and bad temper has his finger on the button!

Posted by: coondawg68 at July 14, 2011 08:11 AM (VhcOZ)

60 #59 Try a different game then?

Posted by: Old Maid at July 14, 2011 08:11 AM (8yPsP)

61 Why does anyone care what religion Eric Cantor is? He's an alleged conservative, and therefore only worthy of being shoved into a gas chamber.
Politically, of course.

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:11 AM (K2wpv)

62 We bring in about $200B in revenue per month.
On average. The actual take is much choppier than that and has exhbited a tendency to be "unexpectedly" low over the past couple of years.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:12 AM (B+qrE)

63

Normal
0




ATF
scandal keeps getting bigger

Looks like the ATF was running a similar scam out of Tampa for Honduras. This stuff is exploding.


Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:12 AM (M9Ie6)

64 truman: well, Cantor can't make the gas chamber comment himself, but a pundit could make it.
"obama takes out his frustrations on Eric Cantor. what will Obama say next to Cantor? "see ya at the gas chamber, Eric?""

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 14, 2011 08:13 AM (VIqi1)

65 Bluffy said he'd sat too long and told Cantor that no other president not Ronald Reagan, the president said would sit through such negotiations. Bluffy said he wouldnt do the debt-limit increase incrementally and that he would veto a short-term bill.

Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:13 AM (lpWVn)

66
That tells you right there they do not give a flying shit about the real stuff, it is all political posturing. Besides, as I said yesterday, our debt has already been "downgraded" when everyone quit buying bonds at the current interest rates and the Chinese unloaded.
Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 07:56 AM (M9Ie6) Well, really it's posturing on all sides. The US federal government can pay any "debts" at any instant with a few keystrokes.It can not "go broke" because it can create dollars at will. The only real question is what measures have to be taken to control core inflation in terms of the effects of money supply. Taxing and borrowing are inflation control mechanisms - they fund nothing. The reason the libtards are posturing is because they want to extort cooperation from the rest of us in their scheme to have the government take everything over. The Republicans are posturing because they want to limit that expansion of government (and rightly so). Of course, I suspect that many of our representatives in both houses of congress don't really understand how fiat money systems work and their minds are actually stuck in the hard-money paradigm that cities and states must work within. The solution has nothing to do with any "debt ceiling." It has everything to do with how much wealth the government chooses to take, whether through taxation or inflation. If a phoney battle over meaningless "debt" constructs is what it takes to bring that to a head, then so be it. My worry is that our side will "win" this part of the battle, then stop. Stopping the growth of spending, or even turning it back, will not fix the economy. Not unless tax cuts go along with it, and that probably will not happen. The repubs are too weak and/or stupid to do what must be done to get the economy moving. They're not going to get oil flowing. They're not going to clear the way for more nuke plants. They're not going to cut stifling regulation, nor even give business any real assurances that the ground rules will remain unchanged for a reasonable period of time. Reductions in government spending are going to hurt the economy by further undermining employment and aggregatedemand, and the current lack of demand is what's holding the economy back. This may be necessary, but it will hurt. Unless we do something to minimze that hurt, to provide some hope, nothing has really been accomplished. Are there ANY leaders on our side, with any real hope of being elected, who have a solidplan for getting things going again? Austerity alone is not enough, as is being proven out in the UK right now.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:13 AM (xUM1Q)

67 And they said I was bad at stategery.

Posted by: GWB laughing at July 14, 2011 08:14 AM (N2yhW)

68 Its StRategery!

Posted by: Lingo Nazi at July 14, 2011 08:15 AM (8yPsP)

69 The Prez lost his cool but more than likely chilled after he left the meeting and blowed a joint.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 08:15 AM (0K+Kw)

70 Are there ANY leaders on our side, with any real hope of being elected, who have a solidplan for getting things going again?
Step 1: Elect someone...hell, ANYONE who will not as a matter of policy, peevishness, and/or ignorance pick a business sector du jour for demonization.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:16 AM (B+qrE)

71 Along with his sharp pants crease and uh uh uh um speech making skill, I really admire Barry's even temperament.

Don't call my bluff on this.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2011 08:18 AM (ENKCw)

72 oh, i had not read where Bambi said he would veto short-term solution. GOOD! because I thought this is where the Boner-squishes were heading. now let Boner et al put forth this short term solution. let Bluffy OWN it

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 14, 2011 08:18 AM (VIqi1)

73 There are a couple of important anniversaries today folks:

On this day in 1789 the socialists stormed the Bastille ending the French Monarchy, beginning the reign of terror, and setting up the conditions for a "leader for life" to take over.

In the U.S. on this day in 1798 John Adams' rubber stamp congress passed the Alien Sedition Act which made it illegal to be a supporter of Thomas Jefferson (who was the VP).

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:18 AM (M9Ie6)

74 Your blog is insufficiently full of penis photographs!

Posted by: Big Swinging Dicks ePub at July 14, 2011 08:18 AM (K2wpv)

75 Your blog is insufficiently full of penis photographs!
Can there ever be enough?
What?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:20 AM (B+qrE)

76 The real narcissistic injury to Zer0 is that he was getting lip from a dirty Jooooo!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 14, 2011 08:20 AM (lbo6/)

77 Happy Bastille Day, everybody!
Between drinking coffee from my new GIANT coffee mug and blasting "Do You Hear the People Sing?" I'm more awake than usual.

Who are you people and what are you doing in my computer?

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (XdlcF)

78 Red eyes, purple lips, and stoned out of your mind is no way to go through life, Mr. President.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (0K+Kw)

79 O: Don't call my bluff!

C: Ok.. I call.

O: Well.. I raise!

C: You can't, I already called.

B: (Whispered aside to Sheriff Joe - Ok, so what do I do now? I told you I only had a pair of two's..)

B: Uh.. Uh.. Didn't we say deuces were wild?

C: No, we didn't.

B: Well.. I'm going home!

C: You are home.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (Wm4Mf)

80 Stopping the growth of spending, or even turning it back, will not fix the economy.

It will help in that area a lot if business gets a feel that it is more than a temporary stop. But right now what would be even better than a tax cut is a massive "regulation cut".

That is truly what is killing our economy.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (M9Ie6)

81 If the public saw Bluffy he would win in a landslide.

IF the public saw Obama?

AS IF the public is not over-saturated by Bluffy's audaciously perpetual presence on screen, underwhelmed by the Bluffy perpetual campaign mode, and overwhelmed by unconstrained spending.

landslide win the Bluffy Prize: IMPEACH AND CONVICT

Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (lpWVn)

82 On this day in 1789 the socialists stormed the Bastille ending the French Monarchy, beginning the reign of terror, and setting up the conditions for a "leader for life" to take over.Heh.
Margaret Thatcher giving her reason for not attending the 200th anniversary celebration of the FR: "Why celebrate something that resulted in a bunch of headless corpses and a tyrant?"

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:22 AM (B+qrE)

83 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:22 AM (B+qrE)
Ah Maggie, we miss ye and Ronnie so!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 08:24 AM (yrGif)

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Posted by: دردشة العراق at July 14, 2011 08:25 AM (/f3l1)

85 you know somewhere there is audio (or probably video) of yesterday's meeting where Bluffy was sooooooooo forceful against the evil JOOOO Eric Cantor. If it benefits Bluffy so much, then let's hear it!

Posted by: kelley in virginia at July 14, 2011 08:25 AM (VIqi1)

86 Its StRategery!


Posted by: Lingo Nazi at July 14, 2011 08:15 AM (8yPsP)


Nucular, nuclear.

Posted by: GWB still laughing at July 14, 2011 08:25 AM (N2yhW)

87
Step 1: Elect someone...hell, ANYONE who will not as a matter of policy, peevishness, and/or ignorance pick a business sector du jour for demonization.Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:16 AM (B+qrE) That's certainly a good Step 1. It would be refreshing - though in fairness I think most Republicans, even some of the crappier ones, are not usually big demonizers of business. But they all seem reluctant to stick their necks out and push for anything really helpful. They seem incredibly afraid of the green lobby, for example. And when was the last time any of them dared mention tort reform? Of course, when most of them are lawyers I suppose I can see why they ignore it, but still...I'm just worried that if we "win," we're just going to lose in the end because nobody has the brains or will to do the stuff that must be done. Our side isn't driven to change things the way our enemy is.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:26 AM (xUM1Q)

88 Margaret Thatcher giving her reason for not attending the 200th anniversary celebration of the FR: "Why celebrate something that resulted in a bunch of headless corpses and a tyrant?"
But I really enjoy the music.

C: You are home.
B: Ha! I don't spend enough time here to call it that. Fooled you! I'm going to Disneyland.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 14, 2011 08:26 AM (XdlcF)

89 you know somewhere there is audio (or probably video) of yesterday's meeting where Bluffy was sooooooooo forceful against the evil JOOOO Eric Cantor.
If there is, Nixon has company.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:26 AM (B+qrE)

90 Don't they record everything the president says, whoever he is, and for the entirety of his time in office? I heard that somewhere. It's a matter of national security or something.

Posted by: Truman North at July 14, 2011 08:27 AM (K2wpv)

91
But right now what would be even better than a tax cut is a massive "regulation cut". That is truly what is killing our economy.
Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:21 AM (M9Ie6)

Well said. Regs are a major part of the problem. And regarding employment, we could make huge headway just by vigorously enforcing the immigration laws, and clamping down on work visa abuse. Alas, when was the last time any political leader ever really pushed for that? I can't recall.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:28 AM (xUM1Q)

92 I'm pretty sure 86 is another Jake Tapper verbatim enormous wall of text exclusive.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:28 AM (B+qrE)

93 But right now what would be even better than a tax cut is a massive "regulation cut". That is truly what is killing our economy.
Or even, "Hey EPA--don't mess with Texas, you bunch of suckbats."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:29 AM (B+qrE)

94 a massive "regulation cut"

Depends on what regulation...Inside Job

Deregulating the banking/investment/insurance industry opened the corruption gates. Thank you, Reagan, for legally enabling the SL scandals that ruined so many lives, for appointing the fraud Greenspan over our nation's economy. Thank every Potus and Congress since for eliminating every legislative prevention put in place after the 1929 bank failures so that the Fed and global banks are completely autonomous to "legally" defraud every investor and taxpayer in rape-rape-rape...

Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:30 AM (lpWVn)

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Romney slipping in another poll - Bachmann and Perry take the lead

What is funny is they actually ran an "electability" survey with the poll. Romney still led in that category even though most people said they would vote for someone else.

What will it take to get people out of this stupid "electability" mindset? It IS self-defeating BS.


Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:30 AM (M9Ie6)

96 What will it take to get people out of this stupid "electability" mindset? It IS self-defeating BS.
Only the nomination of the one true conservative, Alan Keyes, will demonstrate that we have become committed to conservative principles and believe that only a true conservative can get elected.............oh, wait.........

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2011 08:32 AM (OWjjx)

97 About that downgrade (it was predicted for quite a while because of excessive debt).
http://tinyurl.com/Moodys-blues

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 08:32 AM (yrGif)

98
"regulation cut".


From the people living in your light fixture? Not a chance.

Posted by: dogfish at July 14, 2011 08:32 AM (N2yhW)

99 Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:30 AM (lpWVn)

I don't know where you drug up that BS but every bit of it crap.

Canada came out of this stuff smelling like a rose yet they had NONE of the BS FDR banking regulations.

And the actual truth is that REGULATIONS CAUSED THIS COLLAPSE.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:33 AM (M9Ie6)

100 This web site is my breathing in, really fantastic pattern and perfect subject matter.

Posted by: The Winter Sea Audiobook at July 14, 2011 08:34 AM (VGpNn)

101 Don't they record everything the president says, whoever he is, and for the entirety of his time in office? I heard that somewhere. It's a matter of national security or something.
Also, if the President does it, then it's not illegal. I heard that somewhere, too.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:35 AM (B+qrE)

102
Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:30 AM (lpWVn)


Umm, no.

Posted by: dogfish at July 14, 2011 08:35 AM (N2yhW)

103 Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:26 AM (xUM1Q)
Conservatives ALWAYS lose in the end! We merely have a choice as to how fast we encourage the end to arrive at our doorsteps.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 08:35 AM (yrGif)

104 Alan Keyes is not "electable" because he is a religious Ron Paul. It has nothing to do with "conservative". It has to do with he has ZERO supporters.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:35 AM (M9Ie6)

105 And the actual truth is that REGULATIONS CAUSED THIS COLLAPSE.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:33 AM (M9Ie6)
True, but Hank, Ben, and I made a boatload on your way down!

Posted by: Turbo Tax Tim at July 14, 2011 08:37 AM (yrGif)

106 I smell a Paultard....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:37 AM (B+qrE)

107 @100 From the people living in your light fixture? Ha! Good one.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2011 08:38 AM (0K+Kw)

108 Vic, I think the Keyes thing was a joke. I hope.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:38 AM (B+qrE)

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Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:39 AM (M9Ie6)

110 Tim Pawlenty? I think there are some good deals on his stuff on eBay.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:40 AM (B+qrE)

111 Dear President Dumbass,
You would suck at poker almost as badly as you suck at being "President."
Sincerely,People who don't tell other people they're bluffing

Posted by: MWR at July 14, 2011 08:40 AM (4df7R)

112 Alan Keyes is not "electable" because he is a religious Ron Paul. It has nothing to do with "conservative". It has to do with he has ZERO supporters.
No.........Alan Keyes is not electable because he is an idiot.
Yet, taking each issue one at a time, I am fairly certain that Alan Keyes would get a 6 out of 6 on the Vic evaluation. Of course, he doesn't have an American Conservative Union score..........because you have to actually win an election to get one of those. Yet Keyes is a complete fool.
You can bash "electability" all you want (and will) but it can not be completely discarded in the equasion. Where everyone draws the line, of course, is their own preference.
And yes, to everyone who ever makes the argument that all we have to do is nominate the most conservative candidate and the most conservative candidate will win (because, as you are told breathlessly time and time again, because its been proven over and over in history), I have heard this before. July, 2004. When 1/2 of the Illinois Central Republican Committee lost their mind and gave us Alan Keyes. For Senate. Against Barack Obama.
And the rest is history.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2011 08:42 AM (OWjjx)

113 T-Paw
has now signed that Iowa pledge that everyone gave Bachmann crap about



Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:39 AM (M9Ie6)

The very first sentence says "Tim Pawlenty today declined to sign the Family Leaders controversial Marriage Vow Pledge.

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2011 08:42 AM (X6akg)

114 My idea of a debt ceiling deal:
1. House and Senate pass the Balanced Budget Amendment and send to the states for ratification.
2. Total repeal of Obamacare.
After those two things have been completed, we raise the debt ceiling enough to get us through to early 2013. If the Democrats block either move then the deal is off.
What I like about it is that the demands are small in number and simple to explain to the public. We aren't even asking for entitlement reforms, just two things that the public favors.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 14, 2011 08:42 AM (JxMoP)

115 Vic, I think the Keyes thing was a joke. I hope.
It was a joke - with a little bit of sarc thrown in for good measure. I have been running the Alan Keyes joke as long as Delta has been running the Buddy Roemer joke.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2011 08:43 AM (OWjjx)

116 Conservatives ALWAYS lose in the end! We merely have a choice as to how fast we encourage the end to arrive at our doorsteps.Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 08:35 AM (yrGif) Alas, you make a fair point. Most of what we work for is essential the rear-guard struggle, preventing a total rout and collapse as we steadily retreat. I'm often of two minds about it. My dominant thought is that I want the game to play out at long as possible, so that I can have time to get out, and my loved ones will be spared suffering. But on the other hand, I hate the idea of the Left gaining final victory.That part of me wants the crash to come soon,hopefully followed by civil war(and presumably the annihilation of the AmericanLeft, bothas an ideology and as acollection of individuals). I'd rather see the entire earth scortched and destroyed than suffer those bastards to win.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:44 AM (xUM1Q)

117 Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2011 08:42 AM (X6akg)

WOW, I read right through that as he did sign it. Sorry, I screwed up.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:45 AM (M9Ie6)

118 No.........Alan Keyes is not electable because he is an idiot.

Isn't that what I said?

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:46 AM (M9Ie6)

119 Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:30 AM (lpWVn)

Please don't take offense...but you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 14, 2011 08:46 AM (LH6ir)

120 I'd rather see the entire earth scortched and destroyed than suffer those bastards to win.
Since their victory will result in flame and destruction, you will get your wish. Math wins. Every time.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:46 AM (B+qrE)

121 Just for your edification, Morons, please consider this as a big part of the problem with our medical costs:

EMTALA

Passed in 1986, it establishes the 'care without regard for ability to pay' which leads like to all those wonderful effects like cost-shifting.

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 08:47 AM (MMC8r)

122 I was told there would be NO MATH!

Posted by: Chuck Z at July 14, 2011 08:48 AM (Ig+B0)

123 "obama takes out his frustrations on Eric Cantor. what will Obama say next to Cantor? "see ya at the gas chamber, Eric?""
He could always call him an "oven dodger"- that ALWAYS goes over well at parties and social events. My beaver puppet said so, s' gotta be true.

Posted by: Mel Gibson, wondring who took his vodka. at July 14, 2011 08:48 AM (tk5O7)

124 I have said "electability" does have a bearing in a few cases. People who are out there on the far fringe are never electable. But that category should be reserved for those who are out there on the far fringe. People like that KKK idiot down in LA or "the rent's too high" guy easily fall in that category.

But it should never be used for serious candidates, especially those who have a history of being elected to office.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:49 AM (M9Ie6)

125 Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 08:47 AM (MMC8r)

Yes! And by mandating it, instead of allowing the private sector and charities to deal with it took a minor problem and made it catastrophically expensive.

Ask any old doctor how indigent patients were treated before government health care exploded in the 1960s. Shockingly, the country was able to handle it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 14, 2011 08:51 AM (LH6ir)

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I guess he should have
bowed lower, apologized more profusely maybe. Fking genius.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 14, 2011 08:51 AM (jx2j9)

127 The ugly truth is that the system is setup to discourage safe harbors and reward risk. So, we will have bubbles, banks will fail, and economies will grow. No amount of regulation tweaking is going to change that. A few EPA rules, no matter how annoying and useless, aren't holding us at a sub 2% GDP - the only things that can do that are demographics, world war, energy prices, and government fiscal policy.

Right now, fiscal policy - here and abroad are on the table. Energy will have to wait for a President who didn't submit to a Mathusian fantasty.

Posted by: Jean at July 14, 2011 08:52 AM (C/Pop)

128
Since their victory will result in flame and destruction, you will get your wish. Math wins. Every time.Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 14, 2011 08:46 AM (B+qrE) My fear is that their victory will not bring flame and destruction, but rathera never-ending bleak and gray monotone like that of the Soviet Union. Poverty, repression, hunger, and humiliation up until the eschaton. A joyless, hopeless grind in slavish servitude to the almighty state. As Orwell put it - "...imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."Death would be better. The only thing worse than a triumph of the Left would be the triumph of Islam.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 08:52 AM (xUM1Q)

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gun maker going after the feds on interstate commerce

He says he only wants to make and sell is gun in Montana so the feds should have no say-so. All I can say is good luck with that. Even Scalia has gone with the stupid on interstate commerce.


Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:53 AM (M9Ie6)

130 a massive "regulation cut"

Yes, there are too many policies, programs, mandates and entire bureaucracies given precedence to supersede the Constitution as Supreme Law of the Land, and even subsequent laws on the books. Immigration and Border Patrol, ATF, TSA, the Fed, ...

Make that a massive bureaucracy cut: EPA, BluffyCare, Education ...

Eliminate what taxpayers can not afford; maintain what is specifically designated by the Constitution.

Republicans damn well better call Democrats' BLUFF, as if that will ever happen.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell moved Tuesday to head off a
potentially disastrous U.S. default by offering President Obama new
authority to raise the federal debt limit [ through forfeit of the Constitutional congressional vote] without cutting government
spending. Republican lawmakers would be spared from voting ... However, they would lose the approaching deadline as leverage to pursue their cost-cutting agenda. House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) declined to shoot it down. I
think everyone realizes there needs to be a backup plan if we cant come
to an agreement. Erick Erickson of the Web site RedState.com blasts the plan as the Pontius Pilate Pass the Buck Act of 2011.

Republican Leadership want authoritarianism and have enabled it just like Democrats. The abuse pf powers while in office is compassionate leadership demonstrating the bipartisan twin "shared values".

Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:54 AM (lpWVn)

131 The only thing worse than a triumph of the Left would be the triumph of Islam.

I disagree. At least under Islam our wives can't talk back or refuse sex.

Which is why it won't happen.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 14, 2011 08:55 AM (ZDUD4)

132 But it should never be used for serious candidates, especially those who have a history of being elected to office.
Depends on the office. Senate and governor, I would agree to an extent.Congress.........not so much. Due to gerrymandering, a perfectly good idiot can get elected to Congress.
Do I really need to cite examples?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 14, 2011 08:56 AM (OWjjx)

133 And the actual truth is that REGULATIONS CAUSED THIS COLLAPSE.
Having workedin Mortgage Origination, helping to package Mortgages for sale, and Mortgage Servicing (and having dealtwith the reeedeeekulous HAMP program) , I can only agree.
Fanny, Freddy- Satan's government agencies right there.

Posted by: Mel Gibson, wondring who took his vodka. at July 14, 2011 08:58 AM (tk5O7)

134 Passed in 1986, it establishes the 'care without
regard for ability to pay' which leads like to all those wonderful
effects like cost-shifting.

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 08:47 AM (MMC8r)
The actual law in unto itself did not cause the problem. It was those "unforeseen consequences" that stepped in. The combination of the law and lawyers with excessive litigation power caused the problem.The intent was for "emergency" care, i.e. life threatening. However, they left it open for lawyer interpretation and litigation. Soon we wound up with what we have now, sniffles are emergency treatment.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 08:58 AM (M9Ie6)

135 ack, die damned sock.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 14, 2011 08:59 AM (tk5O7)

136 Well folks. I would love to argue about "electability" some more but I need to mow grass before it gets hot.

May be back later but I will be consuming beer so maybe not.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 09:00 AM (M9Ie6)

137 Once again, the heat index should be up to 110 today. Instead of 106 and 30% humidity, though, we're going with 99 degrees and 80% humidity.
So that's a nice change.

Posted by: Mama AJ, who is lying about the "nice" part at July 14, 2011 09:02 AM (XdlcF)

138 Dont Call My Bluff? Huh?http://bit.ly/qVHdMQ
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at July 14, 2011 07:18 AM (sYHDc)
That was my first thought when I heard what he said. King Idiot.

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2011 07:22 AM (X6akg)

Agreed. That makes absolutely no sense or it's pure stupidity to tell someone that you are bluffing. If Sarah Palin said it every "news" organization and the clapping seal comedians would have jumped all over her but little Barry gets another pass on his rank stupidity

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 14, 2011 09:03 AM (1Jaio)

139 I disagree. At least under Islam our wives can't talk back or refuse sex.

Which is why it won't happen.Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 14, 2011 08:55 AM (ZDUD4) I dunno... The feminists have been utterly silent regarding the practices of Islam. I assume that means that they are willing to just lay down and submit to it. That makes sense in a way. Most feminazis are ugly critters, and devoid of any feminine charm. The requirement for all women to wear a burka is probably their dream come true. Plus the polygamy and arranged marriages and the denial of any sexual pleasure for women also puts them on a more level playing field with attractive women, who currently have so many advantages.Feminism has never been about equal rights It was always just vengeance politics with a thin coating of equal-rights veneer.

Posted by: Reactionary at July 14, 2011 09:04 AM (xUM1Q)

140 Gold and stocks. Those are the only things that have been doing well over the past several months. Money needs a safe haven, even cheap QE1 2 money. Gold is obvious, but why stocks. This is my brain dead opinion. The world needs the U.S. to come out of this so they see American companies as the last chance for recovery. The problem is that the left in this country can't stand that the people who could actually turn this cycle around, might benefit from the turn around first. How would that be fair, they ask themselves? So the tie the hands of those who could help the economy with idiotic regulations, restrictions on their activities and punitive taxes. It's not just the left but they are demanding that the "rich" be punished. For what? Being rich. The rich annul the lefts dream for equality. If there were only no rich, we could all be equal. Their hearts tell them how wonderful the universally equal world would be and it would! Absent human nature. When people are paid not to work, they don't. When people see others working less for the same pay, they work less. Except for the ruling class. The ruling class will be there to hold things together. Of course the ruling class will be exempted from universal equality. How could it be otherwise.

The whole of the left expects to be the ruling class. F--king idiots.


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 14, 2011 09:05 AM (jx2j9)

141 And, He Feels Puffy


Posted by: franksalterego at July 14, 2011 09:06 AM (7/sDI)

142 Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 08:54 AM (lpWVn)

There must be something wrong with your medulla oblongata.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 14, 2011 09:07 AM (lbo6/)

143 143, LOL, He's like the first teenage girl president.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 14, 2011 09:08 AM (ZDUD4)

144 "Ace sidebar" got a hat tip at Legal Insurrection. Yea, Mr. Sidebar.
Hmm, not a bad name.
Ace Sidebar...reporting for pudding. Er, duty. Heh, I said "dooty".

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 14, 2011 09:08 AM (XdlcF)

145 There must be something wrong with your medulla oblongata.

Hey, I think I have that album.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 14, 2011 09:08 AM (ZDUD4)

146
If you guys don't start clicking on the links and buying fake Rolexes, Nike Shoes, Elbow Butt T Pipesand iBooks we're going to stop posting our spam on this blog!!!!
Don't call our bluff!!!!

Posted by: EBooks, Jason, Lace Wigs and the Rest of the Spamalot Gang at July 14, 2011 09:24 AM (hbAPu)

147 LOL, He's like the first teenage girl president.

Yes, but don't forget,

Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann don't have the temperament to be president.

Posted by: franksalterego at July 14, 2011 09:25 AM (7/sDI)

148 The actual law in unto itself did not cause the problem. It was those "unforeseen consequences" that stepped in.

Well, of course, Vic. Most of what government does is a small, benign change on its own, but, like rabbits loose in a new environment, those actions wreak havoc in the real world. 'Unintended consequences' are the perpetual legacy of regulation, and most of what government does is attempting to mitigate those consequences that have arisen from actions they took before.

I had just run across the actual legislation in my research and was interested to show the particular act that established the cost-shifting problem that's really driving medical costs.

Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 09:25 AM (MMC8r)

149 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 14, 2011 09:07 AM

Can't admit what you see in your mirror.

Posted by: whatever at July 14, 2011 09:34 AM (lpWVn)

150 Fortunately, Our President is trying to solve the debt crisis by-

bravely taking on-


The Grey Menace!


Oh, and don't call his bluff cuz....uh....well....he's not bluffing........yeah.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2011 09:43 AM (I49Jm)

151 From RCP:

"You know, August and September, you do have to start laying out a plan
if you are to be one to throw your hat in the ring, so that's basically
the time frame," Palin told Sean Hannity during an appearance Wednesday
night on Fox News.

snip~

Asked about her recent comment to Newsweek that she could win a general
election, Palin said that while does believe that she could beat
President Obama, she would also consider supporting another Republican
candidate -- if she felt that he or she met certain requirements that
she looks for in a national leader.

http://tinyurl.com/6c48qvz

Posted by: Tami at July 14, 2011 09:58 AM (X6akg)

152 I had just run across the actual legislation in my
research and was interested to show the particular act that established
the cost-shifting problem that's really driving medical costs.


Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 09:25 AM (MMC8r)

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 10:07 AM (yrGif)

153 I had just run across the actual legislation in my
research and was interested to show the particular act that established
the cost-shifting problem that's really driving medical costs.


Posted by: nickless at July 14, 2011 09:25 AM (MMC8r)
This cost shifting would result in an normal business being prosecuted for fraud.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 14, 2011 10:09 AM (yrGif)

154 Hey the Repub's keep painting themselves into a corner. Let's have a LITTLE flexibility PLEASE!!! Sowing the seeds of their own demise unfortunately. We need at least 2 parties out there to counterbalance each other. Doubtful if there will even be a Repub. party 4 years from now.... Wake up and get flexible.

Posted by: kaz at July 14, 2011 10:09 AM (ST/kk)

155 @154/155 Sort of on a tangent-I love how Tricare (and I guess Medicare) expect all your other insurance providers to pay first before they pitch in. Yeah, the insurance my wife got through her employer after working there for six months should pony up while the Tricare I allegedly earned through 21 years of service gets to take a pass. Makes total sense.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 14, 2011 10:15 AM (agD4m)

156 #156 Up your dosage.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 14, 2011 10:16 AM (agD4m)

157 birds of a feather...

Posted by: curious at July 14, 2011 10:18 AM (k1rwm)

158 Back for a while. Got a quick bite for lunch before more drinking. Fox just did a little blurb in their war on conservatism by putting on some crap from Neocon asshole Karl Rove.

What State MUST be won to win the Presidency? Why Colorado of course, that's what Rove the Magnificent says. Now why would he say that when CO has fewer electors than just about anybody.

Because it has been shifting to the left more and more every year as CA liberals and illegals pour in the State. So in effect, CO has become the PA of 2012 possibly because PA has actually shifted to the right and will actually go Republican (at least that is what CAC says).

So stand by for the Rove wing of the Party, "only [inseert liberal squish name] can win CO" so we must nominate them.

I hate Karl Rove almost as much as Obama. It is his fault Obama is in office.

Posted by: Vic at July 14, 2011 10:46 AM (M9Ie6)

159 Wrote my rep today. Also wrote to the reps of the two districts I'm likely to land in after redistricting. No deal. Do not increase the debt limit. It's a bad deal now and negotiations are only going to make it worse. Just say no.

Posted by: Bob Saget at July 14, 2011 01:18 PM (F/4zf)

160 But, DC has the highest (by far) death by guns.

So how do the guns get into DC?

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I just cancelled cable TV last week and got a call offering me $29.99 (50% off) for 6 months for the digital cable starter package (150 channels) and free installation (whatever that is, since you just stopped your service).

You might have to actually cancel to complete the bluff, but they really do not like losing customers.

My reason for cancelling: crappy selection for basic cable (all reality or paid TV all the time).

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