They'll Tell You Who They Fear? Rick Perry, Homo!!!

No, not really, but the left is up and running.

A couple of weeks ago I was speaking with a politically-connected kind of guy. I had just begun getting into Perry and was looking over his basic bio. I asked this guy: "Any baggage?"

-- "Rumors."

"What?"

--"Boys."

"Proof?

--"Nahhh."

Yeah, it was actually like that. Anyway, NY Magazine takes the Texas Democrats' smear national:

Rick Perry, if he enters the GOP primary race, will be well-positioned to chip away at Mitt Romney's front-runner status. But while Romney has, at least for political purposes, an impeccable marriage to wife Ann, Perry's marriage to wife Anita has long been dogged, at least inside Texas, by whispers.

Politico resurfaced the rumors for the national crowd this week, explaining that "his team is more than prepared for a re-airing of unsubstantiated rumors." (For instance, in Politico articles re-airing them. Or Daily Intel posts discussing those articles.) The most vicious gossip, which Perry publicly addressed in 2004, alleged that he was gay and had cheated on his wife with a member of his administration. The Austin Chronicle, the one paper that seems to have been willing to devote actual ink to the story, wrote that though they were "extraordinary in their baroque detail and remarkable persistence," there was no evidence whatsoever, and "numerous other reporters, from here to New York, have looked into the rumors, with, as far as we know, an identical lack of results."

But the gossip didn't go entirely dormant, at least not when it was politically expedient: Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Perry's opponent in the 2010 gubernatorial election, juiced up the SEO keywords of her campaign website with "rick perry gay." That same election, a Democratic PAC ran an ad in most of the major Texas newspapers that was clearly meant to remind voters that Perry's red-blooded American maleness wasn't an established fact: "When he's not in San Francisco … Perry's … flipping through the pages of his Food and Wine magazine … in his fancy … rental mansion," read the copy. (Perry does not support gay marriage; Texas Democrats, theoretically, have made LGBTQ rights an important part of their platform. The party was silent on the gay-baiting ads.)

Different states have a different politics, and I've been saying for years Texas' liberals are among the dirtiest and most brazen. And their Republicans aren't choirboys, either.

All I can say on this is: Really? Guy's been a senior government official for... 20 years? First Agricultural Commissioner, then Lieutenant Governor (under Bush), then governor for going on 10 years, a record... and in all this time the outrageously gay Rick Perry hasn't actually done anything outrageously gay?

And before that he was in the Air Force, which was of course then no-gays-allowed, and managed to not get the boot even though he was in one of the randiest periods of a person's life, just-post-teenaged-years-but-now-with-an-income-and-an-apartment?

I'll mention two things that shape my impression of Politickin', Texas style.

I used to hang out on Salon's message boards, pickin' fights, after I got booted off Slate's boards and before I thought, "Hey, maybe I should just start a blog." There was a guy there named Fergussen Foont, who I have to tell you, is a chapter in his own right.

You know that "Michael Moore Goes on a Manhattan Murder Spree" thing I have in my greatest hits? Yeah, that wasn't originally about Michael Moore. It was about this Fergussen Foont.

Anyway, for about six months before the 2000 elections, he informed me (everyone) several times a week that there was a picture of Bush dancing naked on a table, holding his pickle, and maybe doing gay stuff with another dude, and he had personally seen it with his own two eyes, and this photo would emerge just before the election.

Nicholas Kronos, can I get a witness here? Stumbo? Anyone from those Bad Old Days want to back me up on this?

Well, you know about that picture. Or, rather, you don't. It was just made up.

This guy claimed to be some kind of operative. I think he's just a retard, but who knows, there are a lot of retards in politics, you may have noticed. The picture story was "extraordinary in its baroque detail and remarkable persistence," too.

The other thing I know about Texas politics: Bill Burkett, the sad, silly-ass pathetic broken-down half-crazed bridge-troll who faked up those ridiculous "TANG absenteeism" forgeries.

Those claims about Bush, too, had been "extraordinary in baroque detail and remarkable in their persistence." Everyone had heard this endlessly-promulgated rumor for years. Most of the people spreading it claimed to "know it from someone who'd know."

Burkett claimed to have first-hand knowledge. He claimed he personally witnessed the "cleansing" Bush's files. And this was back in 2000, before he'd hatch his absurd Microsoft Word documents on unsuspecting doddering old fool Dan Rather and his vile henchthing Mary Mapes.

Oh, but Burkett had more. So much more. See, he physically touched the "cleansed" documents, too:

Instead I looked down into the trashcan.... And on top of that pile of paper, approximately five-eighths of an inch thick, and Jim wanted me to estimate the number of pages and I said probably between 20 and 40 pages of documents that were clearly originals and photocopies. And it wasn't any big deal, I looked at it, it was a glance situation, and it made no sense to me at all except at the top of that top page was Bush, George W., 1LT.

And I look back at it now and I know I was troubled that those documents were in the trashcan. I did ruffle through the top six to eight pages.

Let me hat-tip Charles Johnson (so long as we're stepping into the time machine) to find the curious documents he "ruffled" through:

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So that's what I think. I think we've got a very talented politician here, someone who just beats 'em, and someone who -- like many Southern politicians of his generation -- defected from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party when it was clear there was no longer a "conservative wing" of the Democratic Party in existence any longer.

And I think they got pretty steamed about that. And so I think they cooked up a queer rumor about a guy who married a girl he'd known since, get this, elementary school (though they didn't start dating until high school).

If this guy's so frickin' gay, where is the evidence? Who's seen this? Who has he shtupped?

This isn't those gay-friendly northern states, like New York, where they had a gay mayor for years and everyone was civil enough to pretend to not notice.

This isn't New Jersey, where a complacent media would blow off gay rumors about a liberal Democratic Governor they liked.

This is Texas, where the Big Q charge still carries a bit of heft. Texas, where the old maxim holds that your career in politics is over only if they catch you with a dead girl or a live boy. Steers and queers, my friends. Steers and queers.

And Texas media liberals are the among the worst c***suckers out there. At least New York media liberals are a little calm about things because they know they're untouchable.

Texas media liberals, on the other hand, are under siege, in a little bastion of Austin surrounded by a sea of hooker-lipstick red. They're not in control, like New York City media liberals. So they're cranky.

So all these Texas media liberals have had this rumor endlessly pushed to them that a guy who holds Christ Day and is against gay marriage and all that is actually an undercover Boy Baster and therefore a...

sexual hypocrite!!!

...but they haven't been able to do anything but chatter about it?

And now it's debuted for the national audience, in the same sad state of full and total unencumbrance by evidence, and not only evidence, but even a live party to make the allegation, someone willing to put a name to the claim?

Okay.

But thanks, NY Mag, because I did want to mention this. Better to have this crap out in the open where people can discuss it and judge it for what it is than to have it whispered about in the darkness.

In honor of Rick Perry officially coming out of the closet, loud and proud, allegedly, here's a song that's totally gay but pretty damn great.

And, liberal media, since you're so eager to chase down gay rumors: Man, have I got a corker for you.

Posted by: Ace at 11:32 PM



Comments

1 "undercover Boy Baster?" lol!

Posted by: Peaches at June 22, 2011 11:37 PM (afUO8)

2 So they can't even make up anything new?

Perry confronted this crap head on and everyone was satisfied with his answer.

Oh and the Austin Chronicle is the local fag rag. You know, men seeking men classifieds and the like. And always, solidly, liberal on every subject under the sun.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:38 PM (J4Pnx)

3 A smart journalist once told me: If you have to put a question mark after your headline, then you don't have a headline.

Posted by: Truman North at June 22, 2011 11:39 PM (K2wpv)

4 Chains of Love, eh? Most would have gone with A Little Respect.

Well played.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 22, 2011 11:39 PM (dTgJw)

5 If he runs you might want to watch the rapey-ewok stuff J-I-C

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:40 PM (VjNxi)

6 What next?
Proof he's really Trig's Father?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2011 11:40 PM (NtXW4)

7 re-airing of unsubstantiated rumors

Think about that one for a minute.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2011 11:40 PM (KzFdw)

8 having heard these rumours for years here in Texas, usually at election time, let me say (to our shame) that most of the times I heard this it came from guys who I knew were on the far right. And they'd never say it in writing, but it was a pretty vicious whisper campaign that went on a lot.

I heard it most while Carol Keeton Mclellan Rylander Too Many Names Strayhorn was running her "independent" campaign in '06 after she lost the primary to Perry. Not that there's any evidence her lackey's had a hand in this, but still...

btw, to her eternal shame, probably the main reason she lost (at least why she deserved to lose) is that SHE was the mother of that sad sack turncoat loser press secretary, Scotty McLellan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 22, 2011 11:41 PM (wk1nH)

9 On a scale of 1-10... how old was the boy?

Posted by: Truman North, recycling last night's joke at June 22, 2011 11:42 PM (K2wpv)

10 This is Texas and Perry's endured the crucible of 3 governors races and a very contentious primary.

Color me skeptical that something like this wouldn't come out when it would shift the race in a day

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:42 PM (VjNxi)

11 OT - Ugh... I just had a huge spider run across the wall behind my desk and then drop off behind the bill holder... sigh

Posted by: Storm at June 22, 2011 11:42 PM (AZFgs)

12 'Perry' rhymes with 'fairy.'
That'sconclusive enough for the NYT.

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:44 PM (MMC8r)

13 I am now gayer for having listen to that.

Posted by: Mark in Spokane at June 22, 2011 11:45 PM (Idj3n)

14 I think that after a lifetime in politics, this would have been proven a long time ago if true.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:45 PM (J4Pnx)

15 Let's say it came out that Perry really is a homosexual and can't get enough cock.

He's still better than Huntsman or Obama.

Posted by: SRSLY at June 22, 2011 11:46 PM (QjrRF)

16 Also, let's state the unsubstantiated, but obvious point of the evening:

Someone has a poll somewhere that worries someone about Perry.

David Axelrod to the white courtesy phone, please.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2011 11:46 PM (KzFdw)

17 Where's the inevitable Weiner update? I thought Patterico was supposed to drop something tonight

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:47 PM (VjNxi)

18 David Axelrod to the white courtesy phone, please.

Perry has already defeated an Axelrod candidate.

And a Rove candidate.

This shit won't stick.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:48 PM (J4Pnx)

19 Damn! There goes my niche

Posted by: Fred Karger at June 22, 2011 11:49 PM (K2wpv)

20 Perry campaign ad:

Sure, over the course of my lifetime I've have sex with approximately 300 men, every one of them right in the ass. But Obama's fucked 300,000,000 Americans in the ass *in just the last four years*.

Perry-Foley 2012

Posted by: SRSLY at June 22, 2011 11:50 PM (QjrRF)

21 >>>This isn't those gay-friendly northern states, like New York, where they
had a gay mayor for years and everyone was civil enough to pretend to
not notice.

David Dinkins was gay? I never knew.

(I keed, I keed....)

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 22, 2011 11:50 PM (hIWe1)

22 Personally I'd rather have a president who likes to take it from other dudes than give America the big one through the back door

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:51 PM (VjNxi)

23 Where's the inevitable Weiner update? I thought Patterico was supposed to drop something tonight

Posted by: Jollyroger
Hopefully, we won't have to wait until midnight

Posted by: Storm at June 22, 2011 11:51 PM (AZFgs)

24 I'm guessing the broken image is a link to Chuckles Johnson beatdown of the Rather forgery, which he won't allow AofSHQ to link to. His only good work, which he is pushing down the memory hole.

Posted by: motionview at June 22, 2011 11:51 PM (i+DU3)

25 So what's wong wif bwing a c**chsucur? I'm won and all muy fwends suc coch two.

Posted by: Bwaney Fwank at June 22, 2011 11:52 PM (LkWuF)

26 Never mind.

Posted by: motionview at June 22, 2011 11:52 PM (i+DU3)

27 The libs in Tejas are whiny bitches. fucking retards

Posted by: Zakn at June 22, 2011 11:52 PM (7F9i5)

28 17:

Yeah, I've been looking forward to the latest #WeinerGate update from Patterico all day. What gives?

Posted by: SRSLY at June 22, 2011 11:52 PM (QjrRF)

29 The 'John McCain's Mistress' Story for 2012.
Boy, they're really desperate to get Huntsman nominated.

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:53 PM (MMC8r)

30 You sayin' this Perry feller might be a queer?!

Well that just tears it for me, consarn it!

No way will he ever get MY vote!

What was that thing Ace said about liberals and the media (BIRM) having this weird idea that Republicans are either top hat wearing monocle clad plutocrats or like the townspeople in Footloose who want to ban dancing?

Lame.

So very, very lame...

I guess I'll have to go with Jon Huntsman now.

Posted by: Deety at June 22, 2011 11:53 PM (YTFjM)

31 Adios Mofo

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 22, 2011 11:53 PM (7F9i5)

32 20 + 22

HIVEMIND

Posted by: SRSLY at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (QjrRF)

33 F*ck them. He'll beat their f*cking ass if he runs. We can also talk about Larry Sinclair if they'd like. I haven't read that much about Larry, but there's more evidence out there for him than this. Like Larry himself, claiming he was the catcher to Barry's pitcher. Yes, media, let's explore this topic among the candidates and the incumbent.

Posted by: Who is Larry Sinclair? at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (AAVqO)

34 Perry is at the very least bisexual.  He didn't even  try, really, to cultivate a "man's" image by marrying until he was in his 30's.  And there are rumors going around that his wife isn't particularly hetero. So you either consider just what you want to believe, or open your eyes to all that stuff currently circulating around the web.  If you're open-minded, the evidence you find will be as compelling as anything that turned up after the MSM was finished ignoring the Edwards scandal.

Posted by: Austinite in Dallas at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (SHZS5)

35 Related:

Insty has this gem of a link: Huntsman's family gave nearly 25K to....wait for it....Harry Reid last election cycle.

Thanks for stopping by the booth, Governor. Have you met Governor Crist? We'll save you the Match.Com time and just hook you two up now.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (KzFdw)

36 You know who would make a great, closeted,gay politician?

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (+UTM0)

37 Oh, and 'Hunts-Man?'
Not saying he's gay, but....

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (MMC8r)

38 31 Adios Homo
Posted by: Rick Perry at June 22, 2011 11:53 PM (7F9i5)

FIFY

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (VjNxi)

39 NYC had a gay mayor?

Posted by: alexthedude at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (veQda)

40 Oh and the Austin Chronicle is the local fag rag. You know, men seeking men classifieds and the like. And always, solidly, liberal on every subject under the sun.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:38 PM (J4Pnx)

The Austin Chronicle is actually a weekly independent magazine with an oustanding local events and personals section. But it is not a serious newspaper, and it is rabidly partisan and left-wing. When Bush 43 was elected president, they printed their entire front page black. Not even Austin residents take their "reporting" seriously. Most people just read it to find out what bands are playing on the weekend.

Posted by: Caiwyn at June 22, 2011 11:55 PM (IxBYN)

41 I heard that Rick Perry once ordered a turkey sandwich at Subway, and he didn't eat all of it. Then guess what happened? HE THREW THE LEFTOVERS AWAY!

THE HORROR!

Posted by: Doc at June 22, 2011 11:56 PM (jGXQI)

42 If he is gay, wouldn't that be great for the dems? Just think of the crossover appeal

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:56 PM (VjNxi)

43 He's an Eagle Scout and an Texas A&M Aggie, as well. The Left just doesn't like people who made it to adulthood without being wasted all the time.

Some people actually do worthwhile things with their lives - even in their teenage years - things that are praiseworthy and display character. As the mother of a special needs Eagle Scout, I can say that I'd rather hang with a bunch of Scouts of any age than the Mall Rats of the same age. Eleven of the twelve men who walked on the moon were in Scouts. And most Eagle Scouts grow up to maintain their high standards and do well in life, and also do good.

That goodness is what the Left likes to gnaw on like squirrels chewing the rafters in your attic. They just want to destroy, because that is what they do.

Posted by: MathMom at June 22, 2011 11:56 PM (tj0rx)

44 I find it totally unsurprising that the democrat party would try to keep a homosexual out of the White House.

Posted by: Truman North at June 22, 2011 11:57 PM (K2wpv)

45 hey average joe

Posted by: Storm at June 22, 2011 11:57 PM (AZFgs)

46 I guess I'll have to go with Jon Huntsman now.

An excellent choice!

Posted by: Harry Reid at June 22, 2011 11:57 PM (afUO8)

47 34 So you either consider just what you want to believe, or open your eyes to all that stuff currently circulating around the web. If you're open-minded, the evidence you find will be as compelling as anything that turned up after the MSM was finished ignoring the Edwards scandal.
Posted by: Austinite in Dallas at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (SHZS5)

Wow. How 'bout a link, dooshnoz?

Posted by: alexthedude at June 22, 2011 11:57 PM (veQda)

48 34 Perry is at the very least bisexual. He didn't even try, really, to cultivate a "man's" image by marrying until he was in his 30's. And there are rumors going around that his wife isn't particularly hetero. So you either consider just what you want to believe, or open your eyes to all that stuff currently circulating around the web. If you're open-minded, the evidence you find will be as compelling as anything that turned up after the MSM was finished ignoring the Edwards scandal.
Posted by: Austinite in Dallas at June 22, 2011 11:54 PM (SHZS5)
Too easy. First letter of third and fifth words in each sentence.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (1+OO5)

49 Patterico said on twitter about an hour ago that he may be publishing a bunch of messages soon, and that there is a LOT more coming (his caps).

Posted by: Storm at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (AZFgs)

50 Patterico had to voir dire a jury today for a trial. He's been very busy. He is hoping to get this stuff up but there is a LOT of stuff and the promise was to publish ALL of it.

BTW, don't anticipate too much. The stuff that is being sent tends to prove Gennette had a flirtatious relationship with Weiner (at least) and also did not suspect the girls of being sockpuppets, since she was talking to them a lot for a month.

There is one interesting nugget but it's just a nugget. It suggests, without proving.

Posted by: ace at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (nj1bB)

51 I can't vote for an aggie....

Damn it all to hell

Posted by: Longhorn fantard at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (7F9i5)

52 Good Lord, that Average Joe is going to make me kill a bitch.

Posted by: ace at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (nj1bB)

53 HELP! I'm too traditional to know know where I stand!

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (ZeWVX)

54
'Perry' rhymes with 'fairy.'

Not only that, but his first name is "Richard." Which could be "Dick" just as easily as "Rick." Which both rhyme with "prick" and "lick." I think the evidence is conclusive.

Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (Z6WkI)

55 Weiner Perry is at the very least bisexual. He didn't even try, really, to cultivate a "man's" image by marrying until he was in his 30's. 40's. And there are rumors going around that his wife isn't particularly hetero

Posted by: nickless at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (MMC8r)

56 Nice work, Book Geek

Posted by: Truman North at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (K2wpv)

57 Posted by: Book Geek at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (1+OO5)

Or the SHZ designation... but yeah, good catch.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 22, 2011 11:59 PM (VjNxi)

58 Too easy. First letter of third and fifth words in each sentence.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (1+OO5)

Dude, that is frightening. How did you suss that?

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:00 AM (veQda)

59 Although I can't for the life of me figure out why you eould even be looking

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:00 AM (K2wpv)

60 Bisexuality isn't a bad thing. Jonah Falcon is bisexual.

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:01 AM (K2wpv)

61
HAH. That gay rumor has been floated around here by Democrat lawyers for years after Bush won and he moved up. All you have to do is know who puts it out there to understand why it's out there.

Kay Bailey's team tried and failed. And they really, really tried.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:01 AM (Wh0W+)

62 Ace, does that mean he is going to publish it ALL at once?

Posted by: Storm at June 23, 2011 12:02 AM (AZFgs)

63 I like the whole "open your eyes to things currently circulating around the web."
So the aliens are, in fact. among us?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 23, 2011 12:02 AM (KzFdw)

64 Google Larry Sinclair for that Other Rumor: there's more to the BO story, and it's pretty hair-raising.

Posted by: Beverly at June 23, 2011 12:02 AM (pymJ8)

65 I, for one, welcome our Texas Homo overlord.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:02 AM (GTbGH)

66 You know who wasn't bi? Stalin.

Vote Perry. Not Stalin.

Hitler might have been, and I don't want to think about Mao having sex with anything.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:03 AM (VjNxi)

67 Why is that memo from Charles Johnson moving like the tell tale heart?

Posted by: Storm at June 23, 2011 12:03 AM (AZFgs)

68 Rick Perry has my vote.

Oh crap!

Posted by: Harvey Fierstein at June 23, 2011 12:04 AM (ecbqX)

69 You know, it's funny, i'm a political junkie who's lived in Texas during Perry's entire tenure and the first i ever heard about these rumours, that are now claimed to have been widespread, was this week. Seriously, i'd like somebody to show where these rumours appeared anywhere before this week.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:04 AM (9RFH1)

70 I don't care if he's blasting a whole truck load of SF dancing queens in the dirt chute in rapid succession, I just want someone who is not a financial idiot in charge before we are all drinking ouzo and watching this country turn into a wasteland. Time grows short.

When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:04 AM (TMB3S)

71 Ahhh, Hillbuzz. Was a great blog until the new format and then something happened. I'll tell you what. Don't mess with Kevin Dujan. The guy's got a future in politics (as an operative, not candidate).

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 12:05 AM (0iipb)

72 That 'dead girl or live boy' quote is from Edwin Edwards, a Louisiana governor (still in prison or recently released, not sure). I know all dem dere Suthin states all just blend togedder to a New Yawker, but really we all have our own elected officials and everything.

Yeah, they are all sleazoids too. Really, it's not turtles but sleazoids all the way down.


Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 12:05 AM (ENKCw)

73
I don't want to think about Mao having sex with anything.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:03 AM

He spent a lot of time lazing around in bed and would grab both male and female guards and attendants. He also had v.d. and refused medical treatment. "I wash myself in the bodies of my women," he declared.

Posted by: arhooley at June 23, 2011 12:06 AM (Z6WkI)

74 Perry has already defeated an Axelrod candidate.And a Rove candidate.This shit won't stick.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 22, 2011 11:48 PM (J4Pnx)
Say what you want about Perry, he strikes me as a ruthless political animal and we really need one of those right about now.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 12:06 AM (73tyQ)

75 When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red
while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.
Isn't the Texas deficit err zero?

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:07 AM (GTbGH)

76 67
Why is that memo from Charles Johnson moving like the tell tale heart?
That was Johnson's (really cool) shtick to show you, graphically, the difference between the 2004 version and what a real 1973 memo would have looked like. Frankly, it's devastating.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 12:07 AM (0iipb)

77 When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red
while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.

The legislature circumvented Perry and accepted stimulus money which now gone, but the projects and teacher's salaries it created are still wanting funding.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:07 AM (J4Pnx)

78 When I was having hot heterosexual inttercourse on Nikki Haley's vagina, I noticed Rick Perry was glancing over at me, with a secret wink, which I'm told in gay circles means "Nexties...?," and I don't think he was asking about Nikki.

Because I totally *ruined* that.

Posted by: Larry Merchant at June 23, 2011 12:08 AM (nj1bB)

79 To my friends on the left:
Isn't being gay better?

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:08 AM (K2wpv)

80 Google Larry Sinclair for that Other Rumor: there's more to the BO story, and it's pretty hair-raising.

Yeah. It is. Even more hair-raising is the fact that it's been right there for anyone who wanted to know about it since well before 11/4/08. Just like the Rashid Khalidi slobber-fest. Just like the disappearing transcripts from 3 highly-esteemed universities. Just like MO throwing sick people out on the street from the hospital. Just like the mystery trip to Pakistan. And so on and so forth.

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2011 12:08 AM (afUO8)

81 @73

Mao reminds me of Jabba the Hutt.

Good riddance. I just hope his vd was excrutiatingly painful, and wish his death had only been more Bin Ladenesque

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:08 AM (VjNxi)

82 Ahh, probably should have read the post first, i see the dipshits in Austin and Gawker talked about the rumours before this week. But i'm here to tell you, these rumours that were supposed to be widespread, weren't.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:09 AM (9RFH1)

83 Perry-Foley 2012

Posted by: SRSLY at June 22, 2011 11:50 PM (QjrRF)

Heh.
Think how much more entertaining the political season would be if we'd hire guys like you to write the ads. I might even watch some of 'em.

Posted by: someone at June 23, 2011 12:09 AM (bqjJT)

84 >>>Ace, does that mean he is going to publish it ALL at once?

I'm not sure but that's my understanding of the agreement and the plan.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:09 AM (nj1bB)

85 No lie: Erasure might be my favorite band.

But I do live in Austin.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at June 23, 2011 12:10 AM (DZcRU)

86 >>Isn't the Texas deficit err zero?

Er, no. And if not for, ahem, liberal dipping into the rain day fund, they would be even further boned.

Short term fix done with accounting tricks. August brings more pain. Perry needs to come up with some magic to fix this before jumping into the race.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:10 AM (TMB3S)

87 Average Joe is an annoying twit.

Posted by: Ronster at June 23, 2011 12:10 AM (O3izx)

88 Rick Perry?

Been there, done that.

My sacred honor compels me to be completely truthful with my wife via the internet about this sort of thing you know...

Posted by: Will Folks at June 23, 2011 12:11 AM (YTFjM)

89 75 When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.

Isn't the Texas deficit err zero?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:07 AM (GTbGH)

The Texas state GDP is over 1T and yes, they have a balanced budget, so... That's purty good.

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:11 AM (veQda)

90 No lie: Erasure might be my favorite band.But I do live in Austin.

Ick.

On both counts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 23, 2011 12:11 AM (KzFdw)

91 >>>That was Johnson's (really cool) shtick to show you, graphically, the difference between the 2004 version and what a real 1973 memo would have looked like.

How quickly we forget. The gif shows that the "memo" presented by Dan Rather is identical to one one had just typed up in Times New Roman font. They're supposed to be the same, not different.

There are some differences because the Dan Rather one was faxed and photocopied and otherwise made to be a shitty several-generations-from-original crap copy.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:12 AM (nj1bB)

92 Yeah, it's cool. We got this one. Go 'head, run it. Front page, top of the fold, 72-point font. Sure. We absolutely got your back on this one.

Posted by: Layers of Fact-Checking at June 23, 2011 12:12 AM (K2wpv)

93 Baroque-Back Obama? I have to say at this point in his reign, nothing about him would surprise me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 23, 2011 12:12 AM (d0Tfm)

94 Er, no. And if not for, ahem, liberal dipping into the rain day fund, they would be even further boned.



Short term fix done with accounting tricks. August brings more pain.
Perry needs to come up with some magic to fix this before jumping into
the race.


They didn't get to the rainy day fund, did they?

And budget shortfalls are really just not increasing spending, for the most part. Stimulus money dried up.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:13 AM (J4Pnx)

95 JackStraw,

Ahem, a governor who is able to patch a budget together with smoke-and-mirrors tricks in the depths of what could actually be a depression is doing a good job.

I said the same thing about T-Paw. Oh, we're quibbling over a couple of billion? If you're managing things well enough that you can paper over them, you're doin' just swell, in my book.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:13 AM (nj1bB)

96 75
When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red
while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.
Isn't the Texas deficit err zero?

It's not zero but it's not 27 billion either, 27 billion was the number Texas dems hyped, it ended up about 13 billion.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:13 AM (9RFH1)

97 Er, no. And if not for, ahem, liberal dipping into the rain day fund, they would be even further boned.


So it is zero then? Or I'm missing your point. Revenues are down yes? Even though jobs are up? Okay, the budget needs to be cut. Was it?

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:14 AM (GTbGH)

98 Oh come on Ace!

It is the press's duty to chase down a story wherever it may lead.
If that story makes reporters the enemy of powerful politicians then so be it, it is the cross they must bear.

Posted by: Vera Baker at June 23, 2011 12:14 AM (+W2ik)

99 So the D's are gay marriage, here, gay mariage over there, BUT the dirt the gotta fake is the R is a homo?

Really?
Really?
that's origional

Posted by: Sock boy at June 23, 2011 12:14 AM (/8R1B)

100 I think alot of the debt was (is ) medicaid debt too.

And obamacare will make it much worse

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:15 AM (VjNxi)

101 He's out by 1.3%? Given the alternative, that sounds really good.

Posted by: Layers of Fact-Checking at June 23, 2011 12:15 AM (K2wpv)

102 >>The Texas state GDP is over 1T and yes, they have a balanced budget, so... That's purty good.

Yea, and the US has a GDP of over 14 trillion and no, the US doesn't have anything close to a balanced budget.

GDP has no correlation to government spending.


http://tinyurl.com/3akpz9q

Perry has been governor for a decade. He owns this issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:16 AM (TMB3S)

103 Especially considering 1500 people per day move into the state. That's some serious pressure ont he infrastructure.

Posted by: Layers of Fact-Checking at June 23, 2011 12:16 AM (K2wpv)

104 Well the MSM will certainly touch the story. They may just dismiss it, but they will tell it.
On the other hand, Larry Sinclair's tales of Obama and gay sex in the limo never got much traction.

Posted by: PC14 at June 23, 2011 12:16 AM (XB+w8)

105 Okay, the budget needs to be cut. Was it?


4 billion from education. But that was a "sorry, we can't cover the mad stimulus money you spent hiring teachers and building football stadiums now that the stimulus money is all gone" cut.

And don't think for a moment that the dems aren't bent about that.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (J4Pnx)

106 The Texas state GDP is over 1T and yes, they have a balanced budget, so... That's purty good.
Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:11 AM (veQda)

My bad - they are in special session to try and fix the current deficit.

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (veQda)

107 The illegal immigrant population adds a big burden to the state as well.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (VjNxi)

108 70
I don't care if he's blasting a whole truck load of SF dancing queens in
the dirt chute in rapid succession, I just want someone who is not a
financial idiot in charge before we are all drinking ouzo and watching
this country turn into a wasteland. Time grows short.





When Perry can explain how he let his state run $27 billion in the red
while claiming to be the jobs capital of America maybe I'll listen.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:04 AM (TMB3S)
First paragraph: +++++!!!!!!!Second paragraph: WTF?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (kaalw)

109 uh-oh, JackStraw's back on Team Romney!

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (nj1bB)

110 Er, no. And if not for, ahem, liberal dipping into the rain day fund, they would be even further boned.

And no, the rainy day fund wasn't touched.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM (9RFH1)

111
>> Short term fix done with accounting tricks. August brings more pain. Perry needs to come up with some magic to fix this before jumping into the race.
Oh please. The last biennium budget (2009) was a net decrease of 1.8%.
This one is going to wind up near 2.3%
Actual cuts in real spending. The 27BB canard is crap, based on the spending plan from 09.
It's been, adjusted.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:18 AM (Wh0W+)

112 So, google tells me that Perry agreed to take 3.2B from the fund, leaving only 6B in it.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:18 AM (GTbGH)

113 One problem with the Larry Sinclair story -- ewww.

It's hard to imagine someone saying, "Oh, sure, I'll throw away my political career, 'cuz I GOTZ to tap this!"

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:18 AM (nj1bB)

114 58 Too easy. First letter of third and fifth words in each sentence. Posted by: Book Geek at June 22, 2011 11:58 PM (1+OO5) Dude, that is frightening. How did you suss that?
Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:00 AM (veQda)
I'm a savant.
Or maybe just an idiot.
Jury's still out.

Posted by: Book Geek at June 23, 2011 12:19 AM (1+OO5)

115 I still prefer Michelle Bachmann. But Rick Perry seems OK.

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:19 AM (K2wpv)

116 Sorry, datelined yesterday

Published : Tuesday, 15 Mar 2011, 3:38 PM CDT
Associated Press



AUSTIN, Texas - Gov. Rick Perry and House
leaders agreed Tuesday to use $3.2 billion from the state's reserve fund
to close a deficit in the current budget, according to a statement from
Perry's office.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:19 AM (GTbGH)

117 I think alot of the debt was (is ) medicaid debt too.



And obamacare will make it much worse

I wonder how that would work if it were limited to actual, ya know, citizens of our country.

Oh, what am I saying?? I denounce myself.

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2011 12:19 AM (afUO8)

118 Let me try to figure this out. Jackstraw doesn't like Rick Perry. What do I win?

Posted by: Ronster at June 23, 2011 12:19 AM (O3izx)

119 and I can't read, dateline 2 months ago

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (GTbGH)

120 Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (agD4m)

121 My bad - they are in special session to try and fix the current deficit.

Our constitution requires a balanced budget. Legislators can't go home until it's done.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (J4Pnx)

122 Let me know when the media starts talking about the Obama is gay rumors.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (OXB7R)

123 dammit, 3 months ago

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (GTbGH)

124 Ahh, that's right, he did use a little of the rainy day fund, I'm so used to dems here bitching about not using all of it i forgot he used some of it.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:21 AM (9RFH1)

125 It's hard to imagine someone saying, "Oh, sure, I'll throw away my political career, 'cuz I GOTZ to tap this!"

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:18 AM (nj1bB)

Is it really? Cough * Clinton * Cough* Arnold* Cough * South Carolina governor walking the Appalacia Trail* Cough* Weiner not even tapping it* Cough *if I keep going I'm gonna die of a *Cough*

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:21 AM (VjNxi)

126 Hey, did you all know that Dick Cheney has a lesbian daughter?! You better not vote for them Republicans! DICK CHENEY HAS A LESBIAN DAUGHTER!

Posted by: John Edwards at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM (OXB7R)

127 Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.

Dude, no way!!! And right down the street if Santa Moronica. Damn!

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM (afUO8)

128 Wow doesn't the "fact" that he might be gay make him more electable?Well, that's what the MSM wants us to believe.Isn't the majority of the population gay?Looking at the news you would think so....

Posted by: Donna at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM (bdE9c)

129 And just wait until he has to explain Perrycare.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM (agD4m)

130 ace-

True. If you find one let me know. Perry didn't.

That deal will solve the budget problem -- until Aug. 31. Lawmakers still need to cut another $23 billion from the next two-year budget.

http://tinyurl.com/3vugn6l

Why is it that whenever someone new comes on the scene everyone rushes to embrace them as if they are a savior without actually looking at their record? Texas is in a world of hurt. They have been slashing to the bone to cut their deficit and dipping into their rainy day fund, something Republicans have fought against doing, particularly because Texas was the the economic miracle of the US, and they still have a huge deficit.

$27 billion is not a couple billion. Even in Texas, that's real money.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:23 AM (TMB3S)

131 GDP has no correlation to government spending.


http://tinyurl.com/3akpz9q

Perry has been governor for a decade. He owns this issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:16 AM (TMB3S)

No, but is does have a correlation to the amount of debt that can be sustained.

Plus, Texas' economy is growing, not shrinking. It looks like Texas took on reasonable amounts of debt to finance, in part, about 13b$ of xportation projects, and still doesn't have an income tax.

I'm not going to say Perry doesn't need to tray and balance the budget, but the TOTAL outstanding debt plus the looming deficit is

Hardly a crisis. If we exchanged Texas' debt crisis for the national one, there would be no panic.

Ont he other hand, CA's debt is spiraling out of control, and the economy is stalling.

THAT is a crisis.

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:23 AM (veQda)

132 Jackstraw, back in 2003 the Dem legislators fled the state to avoid a budget vote....and Perry sent the Texas Rangers to round them up.

The original fleebaggers, they were.

Texas has to pass 2 year budgets instead of the usual 1 year; he moved some of the cuts out into the second year so yeah, a little bit of smoke and mirrors but not much overall. There were some serious cuts in it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 12:24 AM (ENKCw)

133 Look, Rick Perry gets horny and he fucks shit, that's how he rolls.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 12:24 AM (1fB+3)

134 I shoot varmints when i jog. Fuck off

Posted by: Rick Perry, Mofo at June 23, 2011 12:25 AM (7F9i5)

135 We in Texas aren't that bad off. Get rid of the illegals, and we're a lot better.

And medicaid.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:25 AM (VjNxi)

136 120
Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 12:20 AM (agD4m)
///Really? Dude went on the lam when I was in law school in Boston 92-95. He was such an a-hole.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 12:26 AM (0iipb)

137
Well, let's be honest and fair. Rick Perry's not gay-gay.

Posted by: Miss Lindsey Grahamnesty at June 23, 2011 12:26 AM (cwFVA)

138
Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.

So, it 's not the guy that lives across the way from me? Good deal.

Posted by: Breaker19 at June 23, 2011 12:27 AM (qdI7N)

139 It's hard to imagine someone saying, "Oh, sure, I'll throw away my political career, 'cuz I GOTZ to tap this!"

Ahhh, crap!

Now you've gone and woke up Jeff B..

Posted by: Deety at June 23, 2011 12:27 AM (YTFjM)

140 127 Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.

Dude, no way!!! And right down the street if Santa Moronica. Damn!
Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM (afUO

First fuddruckers, now this. Howie Carr will be bipolar soon.

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:27 AM (veQda)

141 Get rid of the illegals? You guys gave us George W.eloveillegals Bush. Good luck!

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 12:28 AM (0iipb)

142 Whitey?

this thread drips of racism

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:28 AM (VjNxi)

143 I don't care if he is queer. As long as he isn't fellating every penny ante dictator in the southern hemisphere then he has the incumbent beaten.

Fiscal issues are key this go around. About the only really bad thing is that since he is from TX he has never had to clean up a mess made by lunatics like he will face in Washington. Someone like Christie would be good to balance out the ticket geographically and he has the experience to be used as an attack dog. Won't happen but a guy can fap dream.

A few sites have mentioned Perry may have baggage on the immigration issue. Not sure how significant it is.

Posted by: Voluble at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (JKX4x)

144 132
Jackstraw, back in 2003 the Dem legislators fled the state to avoid a
budget vote....and Perry sent the Texas Rangers to round them up.

I thought that was over a redistricting vote.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (73tyQ)

145 Sorry, datelined yesterdayPublished : Tuesday, 15 Mar 2011, 3:38 PM CDT
Associated Press


AUSTIN, Texas - Gov. Rick Perry and House
leaders agreed Tuesday to use $3.2 billion from the state's reserve fund
to close a deficit in the current budget, according to a statement from
Perry's office.

Actually, that's referring to an amendment to SB 2, that allows spending on public education IF the rainy day fund takes in more money than the Comptroller has projected.

The budget was signed by Perry with no tax increases, no spending from the rainy day fund and 20 billion less spending than the 2009-2011 budget.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (J4Pnx)

146 Boys will be boys!!

Posted by: Gary Hart at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (YnaBl)

147 this thread drips of racism
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:28 AM (VjNxi)

That reminds me of a jo...

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (veQda)

148 >>>Why is it that whenever someone new comes on the scene everyone rushes to embrace them as if they are a savior without actually looking at their record?

Have you looked at Romney's record? Do you know the growth rate in Mass and unemployment rate there, under him? Compared to the national average at the time?

I guess we're pickin' and choosin' which parts of the record to look at.

Re: Perry, you say he's cut to the bone and yet still has a gaping deficit.

In other words, he's kept taxes... too low to keep up with spending, which you imply is on the low side?

Seems to me that if you're going to err in one direction or the other, that's the one to do it in.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:30 AM (nj1bB)

149 @130 Since we are not rushing, is there a reason you rely on an article from March to support your argument when more recent articles seem to imply the problem you describe is no longer a problem?

What am I missing here?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 12:30 AM (agD4m)

150 @141
To be fair, we could have had Dick Cheney and his warcock fend off illegals at the border with an M-60 and a stable of hookers and I'm pretty sure SF (and Cali for that matter) would still find a way to welcome a few million with open arms during the same time period

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:30 AM (VjNxi)

151 Heh, Perry vetoed 24 bills in one day at the end of the regular session back on the 17th. That's a bunch of stamping.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:31 AM (GTbGH)

152 I thought that was over a redistricting vote.


Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 12:29 AM (73tyQ)
You are right. So it was.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 12:32 AM (ENKCw)

153 Yeah, but we don't have a Republican party in CA. Anyway, it wasn't Cheney preaching compassionate legalization, it was Bush.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM (0iipb)

154 Texas is in a world of hurt.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:23 AM (TMB3S)

Which part of Texas do you live in, again?

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM (J4Pnx)

155 And Texas media liberals are the among the worst c***suckers out there.

Remember Molly Ivins?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM (C0+ZS)

156 Ace: low marginal rates create more revenue, not less.

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:34 AM (K2wpv)

157 JackStraw is no longer welcome in Texas, unless he's prepared to take one for the team. And by take one for the team, I mean allowing me to insert my penis in his anus.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 12:34 AM (1fB+3)

158 Which part of Texas do you live in, again?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM (J4Pnx)

I think he's been watching Full Metal Jacket too much, if that is even possible.

My God, what have I said?!

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:34 AM (veQda)

159
I'll agree with Jackstraw on this point.. revenues are down here just like everywhere else. When they were high, Texas, like other states expanded their budget and spent accordingly.
The "shortfall" is an ugly way to describe how we've had to adjust and curtail that projection. It involved dipping into the "rainy day" reservoir (which in my lifetime, I've never seen a reason that justified it like this economy).
We have 1500 Americans moving here every day from the rest of the states.
15 hunnert taxpayers with jobs. A. Day.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM (Wh0W+)

160 The number must be less than 27B judging by the bill still in conference.

At least, judging by this: The Last Seven Days: A Special Session Update, a source I know nothing about.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM (GTbGH)

161 156 Ace: low marginal rates create more revenue, not less.
Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:34 AM (K2wpv)

Texas has no income tax.

Posted by: alexthedude at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM (veQda)

162 OT, but what the hell:

You guys ever see the "Will It Blend" videos? Really nonpolitical, just viral marketing about a kick-ass ($400) blender.

I love 'em, but I really love this one (it's not terribly new) on the bailouts:

http://tinyurl.com/couxny

I want him to blend a teleprompter, but I don't think they'll get partisan.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM (73tyQ)

163 So let me get this straight.

He likes men, and has dreamy hair?
Zoinks!

Posted by: Meggie Mac at June 23, 2011 12:36 AM (+W2ik)

164 And no state or local income tax.

Rick says suck on that one. Feels good doesn't it?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:36 AM (VjNxi)

165 127
Whitey Bulger finally got nabbed. Cool.

Dude, no way!!! And right down the street if Santa Moronica. Damn!


Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2011 12:22 AM

When I got the information that everyone in the agency knew for decades , I gave the order and I said "FBI, freeze mothefucker!"


Posted by: Agent Barry O at June 23, 2011 12:36 AM (so1xa)

166 Remember Molly Ivins?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM (C0+ZS)
Did she drown in her own bile?

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 12:37 AM (73tyQ)

167 Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM (Wh0W+)


Dave, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the legislature rush to collect them some sweet stimulus money after Perry warned them not to? And now that the stimulus money is gone, isn't that what is causing many of these budget "shortfalls"?

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:37 AM (J4Pnx)

168 Ugh. MA had a ballot initiative in 2010 that would have repealed the state income tax. It went down 2-1.
I hate Massachusetts.

Posted by: Truman North at June 23, 2011 12:38 AM (K2wpv)

169 SB-8 must chap some teachers butts. Class sizes over 22? Unpossible.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:39 AM (GTbGH)

170 Whitey Bulger thread up, and I actually have something to add.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 12:39 AM (nj1bB)

171 Patterrico will have to wait until tomorrow. I have a 10 hour drive ahead of me in the morning. And I'm only going in Texas, and not fully across the state.

Beat that Rhode Island.

Goodnight

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:40 AM (VjNxi)

172 Members attached amendments to SB 8 that would require districts to fire teachers based on evaluations instead of seniority, apply any teacher salary reductions to administrators, and allow them to fire superintendents mid-contract when they declare financial exigency.


Nice.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:40 AM (GTbGH)

173 Yeah, a bunch of crap weasels showed up at RedState right about the time Perry fever started heating up.
They are bringing up the HPV shots, the TTC and are beating their meat every time a positive Perry story pops up. Perry is the one they are most afraid of and why we need to support him or bust.

Posted by: izoneguy at June 23, 2011 12:41 AM (i6Neb)

174 155
And Texas media liberals are the among the worst c***suckers out there.

Remember Molly Ivins?

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2011 12:33 AM

Mr Ann Richards?

Also Dan Rather and Bob Schieffer

Posted by: kbdabear at June 23, 2011 12:41 AM (so1xa)

175
>> And now that the stimulus money is gone, isn't that what is causing many of these budget "shortfalls"?

You are correct.
We had a bare majority in both houses at the time.

Also.. for comparison porpoises.. let's say I live in a $245,000 home in central Texas.
My property taxes are $5,409. Rough estimate.
We have an 8.25% sales tax.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:41 AM (Wh0W+)

176 Boys? Shiiiit, I fuck gophers.

I just fuck.

I'm like the Tasmanian Devil with a buzz-saw hard-on and a sack full of male evil.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 12:42 AM (nj1bB)

177 On the Twitter: Patterico Patterico That is, may take days to release it all. The first post will be up within a few minutes.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:44 AM (GTbGH)

178 154 Texas is in a world of hurt.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:23 AM (TMB3S)

? Says who???

Looks more like the blue lib states are in that world you speak of.

Posted by: izoneguy at June 23, 2011 12:44 AM (i6Neb)

179 >>Have you looked at Romney's record? Do you know the growth rate in Mass and unemployment rate there, under him? Compared to the national average at the time?

Sure. As have you, the national press, every blogger and person with a keyboard in the English speaking free world. We've been talking about it for years. Pretty sure I've read about Romney here, warts and all, for years.

Are you trying to compare the economic environment in MA with the economic environment in Texas? That would be kind of silly. You work with what you have.

MA has some of the best education and healthcare (little talked about fact, MA has the fewest uninsured citizens of any state in the country, Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country and is dead last, behind even DC, in the percentage of citizens with healthcare as long as we are comparing things) and a hugely liberal ruling class. Texas is supposed to be one of the conservative capitals of the country. I expect more from a conservative in Texas than I do from one in MA. Don't you?


>>In other words, he's kept taxes... too low to keep up with spending, which you imply is on the low side?


No. I'm saying facts are a stubborn thing. Perry has been governor of Texas for a decade. He owns the results. All of them, not just the good ones. Yes, taxes are low in Texas. Yes, the services they provide have produced some of the worst results of any state in the country. And they are still broke.

Hell, I'm not discounting Perry. I'm solidly undecided at this point. But if you think the only thing he is going to be hit on are dumb gay rumors and not the real results his administration has produced I think you're dreaming.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:44 AM (TMB3S)

180 175
>> And now that the stimulus money is gone, isn't that what is causing many of these budget "shortfalls"?

You are correct.

We had a bare majority in both houses at the time.



Also.. for comparison porpoises.. let's say I live in a $245,000 home in central Texas.

My property taxes are $5,409. Rough estimate.

We have an 8.25% sales tax.

And don't forget - no personal income tax.

Posted by: izoneguy at June 23, 2011 12:45 AM (i6Neb)

181 46 I guess I'll have to go with Jon Huntsman now.

An excellent choice!

The Huntsman family gives money to Harry Reid.

Posted by: izoneguy at June 23, 2011 12:46 AM (i6Neb)

182 MA has some of the best education and healthcare (little talked about
fact, MA has the fewest uninsured citizens of any state in the country,
Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country and is
dead last, behind even DC, in the percentage of citizens with healthcare
as long as we are comparing things) and a hugely liberal ruling class.
Texas is supposed to be one of the conservative capitals of the
country. I expect more from a conservative in Texas than I do from one
in MA. Don't you?


MA is not a border state. Both education and healthcare numbers are skewed by illegals.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 23, 2011 12:46 AM (J4Pnx)

183 My property taxes are $5,409. Rough estimate.


That's more than twice what it is here in Alabama, but I have to pay income tax.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:48 AM (GTbGH)

184 @179

If you like Ma's health care, you can keep it.

As for education, didn't someone debunk the numbers and statistics (iowahawk?) during the Wisconsin flap?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 23, 2011 12:49 AM (Lr69Q)

185 51 I can't vote for an aggie....

Damn it all to hell


Give me an Aggie over a Mormon or a Marxist anyday!!!!

Posted by: izoneguy at June 23, 2011 12:49 AM (i6Neb)

186 Also.. for comparison porpoises.. let's say I live in a $245,000 home in central Texas.



My property taxes are $5,409. Rough estimate.



We have an 8.25% sales tax.



And don't forget - no personal income tax.
Slackers . . .

Posted by: California at June 23, 2011 12:49 AM (afUO8)

187 I did not sleep with that Kenyan, President Obama

Posted by: Kal Penn at June 23, 2011 12:50 AM (bgcml)

188 Apropos of nothing, watched Drive Angry tonight and it sucked, maximum. It reminded me of the straight to video movie I was an extra in.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 12:52 AM (GTbGH)

189 We used to use the word "Ivins" as a verb for plagiarism. As in "Ivinsing" or "Ivinsed a quote."

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 23, 2011 12:52 AM (C0+ZS)

190 My plans for the deficit? Bang the shit out of it until it cries for mommy, hey it works on kids.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 12:53 AM (1fB+3)

191 I don't want my state government to provide me "services" that I should be providing for myself.

Keep the roads passable, the thugs in jail, and the illegals out.

Give me my privacy and let businesses live so that I can earn a job and earn a living at it.

Screw "Services". It's code for mandatory liberal social experiments with tax money.

Posted by: sifty at June 23, 2011 12:54 AM (BARAe)

192 Yes, taxes are low in Texas. Yes, the services they provide have
produced some of the worst results of any state in the country

Services such as what? Schools? Reminds me of this. Why don't we send all our illegals here in Texas to other states and see how well their services stack up against ours. Here in Dallas the school system is nothing but a daycare for the kids of illegals, so much so that the superintendent used to advocate hiring illegals to teach because the students could relate to them better.

Posted by: booger at June 23, 2011 12:54 AM (9RFH1)

193 re Texas schools -- recall this for once serious piece that Iowahawk did comparing Texas to Wisconsin schools. Pound for pound, the Texas results totally kicked Wisconsin in the balls.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 12:55 AM (ENKCw)

194 Senator Craig....was he suspected over the course of his many years before he got caught for a foot tapping and a hand under the stall motioning shenanigans.

Guys, Think about it, if Rick Perry is a Cork Soaker, this is the republican parties opportunity to show they are really big tent!

Too bad Rick Perry isnt a black muslim gay guy. Just think of how you guys could totally own the left wing media and make their heads pop.

In any event. he sounds just like BOOSH. Who cares if he was stickin his noodle in teh poopie shootie. He ain't gonna win.

YOu have only one candidate that can beat barack obama.

Hint look for the balls that all the other ninnies who are runnin are missin.

Posted by: Jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka at June 23, 2011 12:58 AM (bs3JI)

195 >>MA is not a border state. Both education and healthcare numbers are skewed by illegals.

MA ranks 15th in the country in the number of illegal immigrants. Texas has about 25 million people, MA has about 6.5 million. Texas has about 1 million illegals, MA about 90 thousand. We may not be a border state but we're doing our part, dammit!

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 12:58 AM (TMB3S)

196
>> MA has some of the best education and healthcare (little talked about fact, MA has the fewest uninsured citizens of any state in the country, Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country and is dead last, behind even DC, in the percentage of citizens with healthcare as long as we are comparing things) and a hugely liberal ruling class. Texas is supposed to be one of the conservative capitals of the country. I expect more from a conservative in Texas than I do from one in MA. Don't you?

Those are interesting claims. Of course MA has the fewest uninsured citizens of any state in the country. It was imposed upon them.
I'm dying to see how Texas rates behind DC in educational results (to be fair you said "some of the worst"). As a large state compared to a square mile district, it's possible.
It feels like you're conflating issues at this point so I'm not getting the point.
I am certain about this, I'm very satisfied how we're running things than how MA is running things.
Anecdotal as it may be.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 12:58 AM (Wh0W+)

197 Regarding education, each school district within
Texas is so different that it's hard to compare. You can cross into school districts within a small county and find completely opposite results. I think there are some things we could do to improve education here, especially the heavy emphasis on TAKS, but illegal aliens in the schools is the to address first.

Posted by: '80sBaby at June 23, 2011 01:00 AM (yRL86)

198 All I know is that Texas could kick Massachusetts ass.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 23, 2011 01:02 AM (1fB+3)

199
(incidentally, Jackstraw and I are huge friends, so this is a friendly deal.. no animus whatsoever).

Regulars know, I was just puttin it out there for the new folkses.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 01:03 AM (Wh0W+)

200 also so he doesn't kick my ass next time we meet, cause he could take me in about 4 seconds.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 01:04 AM (Wh0W+)

201 Perry is not gay. I say this with certainty.

Posted by: texette at June 23, 2011 01:11 AM (beZqk)

202 If Perry gets the nomination, he'll stomp bitch-Obama's ass and be the next POTUS

end of discussion. The 'live boy' / dead girl thing just ain't gonna fly

btw, the best Bar-B-Que in the world is in Lewisville, just off I-35E before you get to the lake. you can smell it from miles away

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, an Gael at June 23, 2011 01:13 AM (UqKQV)

203 Sheesh, this is supposed to be a thread about illicit gay sex and of course *you people* have to drag mathematics into it.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 01:13 AM (nj1bB)

204 Rick Perry doesn't believe in math. Rape? Of Course.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:16 AM (1fB+3)

205 When I get done with them, they all *wind up* female, so what's the fuckin' diff?

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:18 AM (nj1bB)

206 Gay math..

It's the next "big thing"

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 23, 2011 01:18 AM (Wh0W+)

207 >>Also.. for comparison porpoises.. let's say I live in a $245,000 home in central Texas.

>>My property taxes are $5,409. Rough estimate.

Let's say you live in a $700,000 house in MA.

My property taxes are $7,500 this year, close enough for gubmint work. Win for MA.

Sales tax is 6.25% Win for MA.

Income tax, ok, you got me on that one.

I'm surprised your property taxes and sales taxes are so high. Not sure you guys are getting the bargain you think you are.

>>I'm dying to see how Texas rates behind DC in educational results (to be fair you said "some of the worst"

Well to be fair I feel like you're conflating some of the issues. I said that Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country which is true AND the worst percentage of residents covered by healthcare, worse than even DC which is also true.

I know healthcare is a hot button and nobody here, me included, likes the mandate idea. But the cold hard truth as everyone knows is that when all those people without healthcare show up at a hospital or a clinic they will get treatment and you and I, the taxpayers, will pay for it. That's the law of the land and it is not going to change.

From the Dallas Morning News March 2010.

AUSTIN - Lawmakers have been thinking ahead to a massive shortfall, topping $10 billion, that's probably coming when they write the next budget in 2011. But state officials told them Monday that they'll have to fix a hole in the current budget, too.
Rising health care costs have dug a hole of about $1.7 billion, the officials said.

http://tinyurl.com/6j7es8f

Do you think that is going to get better or worse by doing nothing?

The simple point is that Texas has been held up as a model of competent conservative government and MA a liberal hell hole here and other places for years. The records don't paint such an obvious picture.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 23, 2011 01:18 AM (TMB3S)

208 Perry is gay? Ha! right. Sure, trot the sumbitch out here, I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Case at June 23, 2011 01:26 AM (0K+Kw)

209 Fergguson Foont? Fergguson "Flakey" Foont? Mr. Natural's follower fromR. Crumb'sold Zap Comics? Now there's an unimpeachable source.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 23, 2011 01:27 AM (NuSRu)

210 Second look at Rick Perry....

power glute powers activate...

Posted by: Andi Sullivain at June 23, 2011 01:31 AM (T3vCe)

211 Rick Perry loves three things : 1) Banging dudes, 2) Re-banging those same dudes to let them know what's fucking up, and 3) a nice BLT.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:34 AM (1fB+3)

212 If Perry beats Obama, I'll buy his lube and his bathhouse membership myself.

Posted by: sifty at June 23, 2011 01:35 AM (BARAe)

213 211 -- hah!

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 01:41 AM (nj1bB)

214 CA has Prop 13 = yay (my $650,000 condo is taxed at $250,000 @ about 2%)
Other than that, yeah, they tax everything here -- income tax sucks, local health care tax on restaurants, etc.
And you f*ckers wonder why I celebrate Prop 215???

Posted by: SFGoth at June 23, 2011 01:43 AM (0iipb)

215 Rick Perry's idea of a dream date?

Fire up some crack cocaine, put in The Vampire Lestat on the DVD, go out and bang a fireman.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2011 01:46 AM (nj1bB)

216 If you want good barbeque go to the Salt Lick outside Austin; if you want a good rapin'.......same place.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:48 AM (1fB+3)

217 Let me put it to you this way:

No, seriously, *let me put it to you* *this* way.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:50 AM (nj1bB)

218 Vampires sparkle when they are afraid of being raped by Rick Perry.

Posted by: sifty at June 23, 2011 01:53 AM (BARAe)

219 I could swear that said utility worker

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:54 AM (1fB+3)

220 Ace gets the Edit feature, we don't.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 23, 2011 01:56 AM (NuSRu)

221 oh, there'll be drinkin'.
and yes, there'll be dancin'.
no, nobodyelse is comin'?

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:56 AM (+UTM0)

222 It says whatever Rick Perry's in the goddamn mood for.

Now take your pants down.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:56 AM (nj1bB)

223 Blond haired guys or dark haired guys?

Posted by: John King at June 23, 2011 01:56 AM (NdE8F)

224 The three areas I promised I would focus on as governor were law enforcement, border enforcement, rape.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 01:57 AM (1fB+3)

225 In Texas isn't firing a handgun smaller than .45 caliber considered a homosexual act?

Posted by: Anonymoose at June 23, 2011 01:57 AM (ZgvjV)

226 When I am President, I'll find a way to make troop ships dock in DC.


Posted by: Rick Paree at June 23, 2011 02:00 AM (BARAe)

227 There is a general rule that Liberals will accuse their opponents of something they are already doing, or are about to do, in order to waylay counter-accusations. Jus' saying.
One would have a difficult time of unearthing actual evidence in Perry's case. On the other hand, Obama has been saddled with these rumors for a while. Iwonder if the truth isn't that Perry has something, possibly leaked from the Clinton camp (or supporters), and this is a pre-emptive hit?
In an case, Obama's not hitting any other candidate with this level of smear..and you know you are over the target when you start getting flak...

Posted by: LexisTexas at June 23, 2011 02:03 AM (Cn396)

228 If Perry is gay, Rosie O is teh hawt.

Posted by: Steph at June 23, 2011 02:03 AM (AkdC5)

229 Rick Perry has a functioning abortion clinic in the governor's mansion......because Rick Perry straightens shit out.

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 23, 2011 02:04 AM (1fB+3)

230 Let me be clear.

He was the one who initiated the encounter. I merely used my hands to move his head back and forth.

Posted by: Barry O'Bama at June 23, 2011 02:05 AM (NdE8F)

231 MA has some of the best education and healthcare (little talked about
fact, MA has the fewest uninsured citizens of any state in the country,
Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country and is
dead last, behind even DC, in the percentage of citizens with healthcare
as long as we are comparing things) and a hugely liberal ruling class.
Texas is supposed to be one of the conservative capitals of the
country. I expect more from a conservative in Texas than I do from one
in MA. Don't you?




As someone who's been on the skeptical side of Perry bandwagon here, it's worth pointing out that Texas shares a border with poor region and gets a number of impoverished immigrants (who also don't have English as a first language). That's going lead to lower school rankings no matter what happens with the educational system. That's not because of Perry.

My skepticism towards the guy comes from a few places, but one of them is that the limitations on what Perry can do as governor limit the credit he gets for his successes as well as his failures. The structure of Texas state government makes it easier to carry out a conservative administration than other states. The opposition is also more less left-leaning than on the national level. That's why Bush had less of a problem with fiscal issues and was able to work with Democrats to a greater extent as governor by just being civil than when he went to DC.

This isn't those gay-friendly northern states, like New York, where they
had a gay mayor for years and everyone was civil enough to pretend to
not notice.

Now, now... none of us liked him and he was a turncoat, but that's no reason to go and start spreading personal rumors about John Lindsay...

Posted by: AD at June 23, 2011 02:13 AM (7FRz4)

232 I know healthcare is a hot button and nobody here, me included, likes
the mandate idea. But the cold hard truth as everyone knows is that
when all those people without healthcare [insurance] show up at a hospital or a
clinic they will get treatment and you and I, the taxpayers, will pay
for it. That's the law of the land and it is not going to change.

Unfortunately, the "free rider" problem is only exacerbated by extending "healthcare" as you call it to those who can't afford to pay the premiums for a healthcare plan ( I refuse to even use the term "policy" as that might imply that it has some sort of relationship to insuring against risk.).

Why is it somehow better that I subsidize the purchase of an unaffordable "healthcare" 3rd party payer plan for someone of limited means who is nevertheless mandated to purchase one, than just pay for their broken leg or 'accidental' gerbil removal surgery through higher taxes, hospital charges and insurance premiums?

Last thing I fucking need is for these shiftless fucks to start getting bi-weekly aromatherapy treatments just because the co-pay on their state exchange "approved" plan is "only $20", when I worry about paying for my own bare bones CAT-CARE policy.

(Soon to be illegal, under Obama Care!)

Make no mistake Jack.

If I am mandated to purchase a typical health care plan with all of the bells and whistles required by my state, much less by the Feds for group coverage, you will be picking up some portion of the tab.

(Sorry, the last year and a half has really sucked. I can barely afford what I have going now. I certainly cannot pay for what Sebelius thinks I should have.)

How 'bout we just leave each other alone?

Me?

I'm willing to pay some, every month, just in case I get terminal impetigo or an anvil dropped on my head which would require surgureys and treatments and no doubt expensive balms and elixers before my heroic rehabilitation therapy.

Other than that...

I'll takes my chances on a sprained ankle and it's repair or decide, on a case by case basis, whether or not that sliver of glass in my toe really should be seen to at the Urgent Care clinic, what with all the waiting and the $70 and all.


Posted by: Deety at June 23, 2011 02:16 AM (YTFjM)

233 This isn't those gay-friendly northern states, like New York, where they
had a gay mayor for years and everyone was civil enough to pretend to
not notice.

Those roommates and I were totally platonic!

Posted by: Rudy Giuliani at June 23, 2011 02:19 AM (NdE8F)

234 Isn't Massivetaxit losing population? Last I heard MA diptards were moving to Vermont and NH, fu*king up those states.

Posted by: Case at June 23, 2011 02:45 AM (0K+Kw)

235 "Texas has about 1 million illegals, MA about 90 thousand. We may not be a border state but we're doing our part, dammit!"
No your not. The only reason you have about 90 thousand is we give the illegals free bus tickets to go up there (one-way). Boston, NYC, Chicago, Philly, etc.....share the wealth baby!

Posted by: Case at June 23, 2011 03:02 AM (0K+Kw)

236 Perry is such a man, he can do a guy, and then do a chick. Hawt.

Posted by: sexypig at June 23, 2011 03:06 AM (crlOd)

237 See, here's the issue:

CA is high tax and bad schools.
TX is low tax and mediocre schools.
MA is high tax and has great schools.

Which do you think the Feds lean to? High functioning like MA or more like CA?

I think CA. Thus, I'd prefer TX. If you give me so-so government but its cheap its better than charging me a fortune for shit, like Cali does.

Posted by: sexypig at June 23, 2011 03:11 AM (crlOd)

238 "Ahhh, Hillbuzz. Was a great blog until the new format and then something happened."

What happened is the main blogger (Kevin) has gone "off the radar". No one knows why he left, or where he is, or when or if he's even coming back. I'm a bit worried myself. It's just very weird.

Posted by: Nunya Bizness at June 23, 2011 03:19 AM (oJyEh)

239 I'm a born and bread Texan, and have lived here most of my adult life, too, in Austin since 1977. I switched from conservative Democrat to Republican about the same time Perry did. Half of my large family is liberal, and half conservative, so we don't even MENTION politics. Politics in Texas is a BLOOD SPORT. Both of the Bushes and Perry learned early how to play SMART, and that has trumped the Dems playing dirty almost every time. The other faction in Texas politics is the die-hard libertarians, and they have been the source of a lot of trash aimed at Bush 43 and Perry. Perry is used to it. If he runs, he'll probably have much of Bush's team working for him.

Posted by: akw at June 23, 2011 04:48 AM (Rq4sP)

240 Something else to keep in mind: Texan wives are notoriously intolerant and unforgiving of husbands who "step out." Whether the third party is male or female makes no difference.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at June 23, 2011 05:37 AM (FeYbR)

241 It's obviously true, as any liberalwill tell you that any man who opposes gay marriage is a closeted homosexual. Actually, any manwho opposes any item of the liberal agenda is a closeted homosexual.
But gay-baiting has a long tradition in the Democrat party. Where do you think the J. Edgar Hoover rumors got started?
Hell, they were doing it to Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Jingo at June 23, 2011 07:10 AM (JlBmQ)

242 Isn't it amazing that us Texas rednecks elected a suspected HO-MO-SECK-SHULL three times?
Too bad Obama alreadyhas dibs onthe "Leading from Behind" slogan.

Posted by: Jingo at June 23, 2011 07:28 AM (JlBmQ)

243 Jackstraw, back in 2003 the Dem legislators fled the state to avoid a
budget vote....and Perry sent the Texas Rangers to round them up.The original fleebaggers, they were.

Nope. Not the originals in Texas.

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Posted by: حرب التتار at June 23, 2011 08:41 AM (z/SyU)

245 I don't care if Perry's gay. I'd vote for him.

Posted by: Y-not at June 23, 2011 08:41 AM (TFxd0)

246 Texas has some of the worst educational results in the country

As several people already mentioned, two words: Illegal aliens.

When your educational system has to serve not only the usual gamut of capacity among English-speaking students, but also a significant number of eighteen-year-olds who are not literate in their own native language, it's not going to get great results.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at June 23, 2011 08:46 AM (9JOC+)

247 The whole gay thing was invented by Louis Black and friends; editor of the Austin Chronicle, the liberal free weekly paper. He made it up and then organized a demonstration outside the Capitol building with locals progressives holding signs saying Perry was gay. Then he reported on the demonstration as if it was something spontaneous that he knew nothing about and started a rumor that Perry's wife had caught him in bed with a man. Then he had several of his writers write stories that asserted that...well, several writers had information that it might be true, and anyway, there had been a "spontaneous" demonstration by people who may or may not know something. One of my close friends is a political player and a yellow dog Texas Democrat. He told me he was "alerted" it was true by "people who were in a position to know."

Posted by: Daybrother at June 23, 2011 09:36 AM (Js/D/)

248 To illustrate just how stomach-churning and vomit-soaked Texas libs can be, the nightmarish Amanda Marcotte is an unholy offspring of Austin.

Posted by: extraordinary in baroque detail and remarkable in their persistence at June 23, 2011 09:49 AM (wOaLi)

249 Texas Democrats, theoretically, have made LGBTQ rights an important part of their platform.
Q? There's a Q now? What the heck is Q?
Yeah, I'll look it up -- but for now I'm just going to guess -- and try to figure out what the other 21 letters might stand for in the future.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 23, 2011 09:50 AM (jAKfY)

250 Top public High schools in the US are in Texas.
5 of the top 25 are from Texas. I Didn't see one from Mass on this list.
just sayin'


Run Rick Run!

Posted by: workingclass artist at June 23, 2011 10:01 AM (nD95B)

251 Austin is where Texans dump their liberals....nuff said.

Perry will run beat Obama...It will be good for business that's what counts in Texas.

Posted by: workingclass artist at June 23, 2011 10:06 AM (nD95B)

252 Hey any faggit whut kin take down a grown coyote with a crappy little .380 gets my vote. Don't care if he likes men, the man loves his dog.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 23, 2011 10:20 AM (qvify)

253 For what it's worth, the educational publisher I work for has a bigger client list in Texas than it does in MA.

Also, for all the talk of MA having the greatest number with health care coverage, the unfortunate fact is that those 'covered' people are receiving less treatment for their coverage. Paper doesn't replace penicilin.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 23, 2011 10:32 AM (qvify)

254
The first article I read on this (Politico, I think) just mentioned "rumors" - not even what they were regarding, just "rumors." Kinda assumed given the vagueness that it was about Teh Ghey, tho.
If having the only growing economy in the Western world requires a gay governor, we could use more gay governors,stat*.
* Barney Frank ? He's a legislator.You need someone with gay executive experience, OFC.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 23, 2011 10:37 AM (7RhsY)

255 Q: "Questioning."

Posted by: Knemon at June 23, 2011 10:39 AM (Da+uN)

256 "the only growing economy in the Western world "

Ahem.

Posted by: Brazil at June 23, 2011 10:39 AM (Da+uN)

257 Whoah, my hash = "Da One!"

Posted by: Knemon at June 23, 2011 10:40 AM (Da+uN)

258 248
The whole gay thing was invented by Louis Black and friends; editor of
the Austin Chronicle, the liberal free weekly paper.Posted by: Daybrother at June 23, 2011 09:36 AM (Js/D/)
Was this about 2004? 'Cause that's when the hard-core libs I know were absolutely giddy and beside themselves cackling on and on about how they had him this time. Seems like to me that "his wife caught him in bed with a man" was the maypole they were dancing around then.
I remember looking all over the net for any legitimate news story on it and all there were was blog posts or message board posts--no newspapers. I knew it was crap then.
BTW, another wrinkle--the Dems have been going after him hard for years with every dirty trick they can come up with. All the people behind the Kinky gov run, the so-called libertarian alternative, were hard-core Dems. One of his campaign managers after that moved to Iowa for a few months to run the Edwards campaign. Which, as is now known, was nothing more than the "anti-Hillary so 0bama could win" campaign. So, skilled in the divide-and-conquer wing of the party. And Perry still walked away with the prize then.

Posted by: Jimmuy at June 23, 2011 10:57 AM (g5VYt)

259 If this guy's so frickin' gay, where is the evidence?
Ace, you're such a bigot against the LGBTQX community.
(Thanks, Knemon @ 256 for answering the Q, and doesn't that open up a trainload of possibilities. X is a generic variable that can stand for anything anyone wants it to.)

Posted by: FireHorse at June 23, 2011 10:59 AM (jAKfY)

260 Folks all it means is Rick Perry is a happy man...Gay = Happy in Texas, I mean the liberal north claims that the south is a bunch of backward hicks lost in the past, therefore would not the word "gay" still have its original meaning? All conservatives will be "GAY" when Obama is no longer our president!

Posted by: minstrelboy at June 23, 2011 12:26 PM (rwioF)

261 "My opponentlikes to have sex with barnyard animals."--- Lyndyn B Johnson
"I just want to hear him deny it."---Lyndon B. Johnson
Texas politics in it's purest form.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at June 23, 2011 12:31 PM (B6HX6)

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