Daily Palin Thread: Palin Announces Bus Tour; T-Paw Says Let's Stop Worrying About Bus Tours

She'll be taking a bus tour of the nation's historical sites, she says.

Starting in Washington DC on Sunday, Mrs Palin, the former Alaska governor and Senator John McCains vice-presidential running mate in 2008, will travel up through New England, through our nations rich historical sites in the coming weeks, she announced on her website.


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The trip, which will propel Mrs Palin back into the limelight after several months of relative anonymity, follows a number of other moves that suggest that either she is serious about a presidential bid or simply attempting to burnish her celebrity appeal.

Our nation is at a critical turning point, Mrs Palin said in a statement. As we look to the future, we are propelled by Americas past. Its imperative that we connect with our founders, our patriots, our challenges and victories to clearly see our way forward.

The Telegraph suggests it's a several month trip, which seems incompatible with also gearing up for a run, but I keep being told she's tearing up the rulebook and stuff so I guess why not.

T-Paw made a mistake, I think, in suggesting he was getting tired of speculating about Palin, because he wants Palin's supporters, obviously, and has to share their interests.

Who knows? I dont know if shes running or not, Pawlenty said on MSNBCs Morning Joe during a campaign stop in New York City. We need to quit worrying about polls and bus tours and get onto the issue of how were going to fix the country and get the country back on track.

It's a deflection back to the issues but the problem is the supporters he needs to court believes Palin is the way to get the country back on track.

This is going to be tough for others, if she runs. Her supporters take a dim view of anyone who attacks her, but you have to attack an opponent, right?

Hysterical Jag-Off Andrew Sullivan Makes A Funny: Safe link to Weasel Zippers. Don't click on that -- yet.

First, guess: What does Andrew Sullivan suggest Palin's quasi-campaign film is like?

Got it?

No wait-- don't get tricky or clever. Don't outsmart yourself, dude.

Think of the stupidest, most kneejerk, most obvious, 3am losers arguing in an AOL political forum idiotic comparison you can make. No Sergei Eisenstein. Let's be a little less know-it-all and a little more automatic bumper-sticker reflexively stupid, okay?

Got your guess now? Okay now click and confirm you're correct.

There is tendency attributed to bloggers. That they shoot from the lip, are hysterical rather than measured, emotional rather than analytical.

There is truth in that. But oddly, the blogger the Make Believe Media has chosen to elevate to the status of Important Pundit is the one blogger who exemplifies the worst of the stereotype of bloggers as obsessive, crazy cranks with too much time and too little sobriety.

Thanks to a commenter, who suggests I'm "onside" with Sullivan re: Palin, and since he says "onside," I must conclude he is a damn foreigner. Most likely British, though I will go as low as "Canadian."


Posted by: Ace at 07:16 PM



Comments

1 Ace, you were serious?

Posted by: huerfano at May 27, 2011 07:16 PM (IN2A4)

2 I still do not think she is going to run.

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2011 07:17 PM (M9Ie6)

3 *insert twitteresque jingo-y slap at the lamestream media*

Okay, I'm done here.

Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 07:18 PM (5NfIh)

4 1st?

Posted by: observer at May 27, 2011 07:18 PM (/ftJv)

5 Palin's running. Great. Another four years of Captain Bullshit...

Posted by: packsoldier at May 27, 2011 07:18 PM (RwRKQ)

6 Frick.

Posted by: observer at May 27, 2011 07:18 PM (/ftJv)

7 Rapture , it's here.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 27, 2011 07:18 PM (bAL0J)

8 Dang. No dick tonite and it's Friday.

Posted by: Meg Mac at May 27, 2011 07:19 PM (/ftJv)

9 SP: you want to see where our country began? come to Virginia.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at May 27, 2011 07:20 PM (5TCB2)

10
Rush sure is pushing her to run.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 07:20 PM (qjUnn)

11 SP: you want to see where our country began? come to Virginia.
Speaking as a transplanted Virginian...damn straight!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:21 PM (FInyg)

12 I like this Ryan fella, a lot.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 07:21 PM (kaZUb)

13 Ron Paul!

PAWLENTY!!!

CAIN!


Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2011 07:21 PM (Fw2Gg)

14 Dang. No dick tonite and it's Friday.
Target is having a special on C cell batteries. Better get down there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:21 PM (FInyg)

15 So, you're live-blogging a couple people sipping stale coffee and looking at a map?

Posted by: fluffy at May 27, 2011 07:22 PM (SwkdU)

16 One woman's schticky bus tour is another woman's summer of laughs.
I will be drinking every time she utters "common sense conservative" because frankly I have a lot of excellent wine to drink and she says that a lot.

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 07:23 PM (VxqUc)

17 What do you guys think of Giuliani?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 07:23 PM (kaZUb)

18 you want to see where our country began? come to Virginia.

Driving home tonight, I shall pass through Lexington, MA, where they fired

The Shot Heard 'Round the World!!1!11!

Posted by: fluffy at May 27, 2011 07:24 PM (SwkdU)

19 But if she's popular in New England she is ipso facto a demonic RINO!
Don't do it, Sarah! They'll taint you!!! Taint youuuuu....!!!!

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (Z05lF)

20 At this point it appears that she's gearing up to run for president, unfortunately, but its just possible she is running low on publicity and interest and wants to build it up again.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (r4wIV)

21 On a side note, what in the heckfire isthe fuel bill gonna be for the vanity tour 2011?

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (VxqUc)

22 >>>What do you guys think of Giuliani?

I'm shocked he polled well. I figured he was done.

And I was three for three on people running.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (nj1bB)

23 Giuliani would've been a great candidate in an alternate timeline...

Posted by: packsoldier at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (RwRKQ)

24 Attack her on the issues, no problem. But the GOP RINO Elite have been attacking Palin the in the same way the Socialists have. Palin is the one politician who has been pretty much right on every issue from the economy to Libya; T-Paw and the rest listen to what she says/tweets/Facebooks and then follow. None of them can attack her on any issue cuz her record is far better than theirs, which is why they play the family/Palin dumb/Palin unelectable/blah blah de blah game.

Posted by: apodoca at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (C4Y9x)

25 What's Rick Perry going to do?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 07:27 PM (kaZUb)

26 Driving home tonight, I shall pass through Lexington, MA...
Fluufy, I said I was a transplanted Virginian. I grew up in the Bay State.
Where every grade school field trip was either Freedom Trail or Lexington and Concord.
I used to think that was God's country. Until I realized Kennedy and crew ruined it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:27 PM (FInyg)

27 I heard she got a used girls gone wild bus.
I think Pawlenty's answer was inconsequential.

Posted by: Jackhole at May 27, 2011 07:27 PM (+qHxi)

28 "Rush sure is pushing her to run. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp"
Ugh, ain't that the truth. I've had to turn him off most of this week. Meh.

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 07:27 PM (VxqUc)

29 Our nation is at a critical turning point, Mrs Palin said in a statement. As we look to the future, we are propelled by Americas past. Its imperative that we connect with our founders, our patriots, our challenges and victories to clearly see our way forward.
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I have no idea what this means.

Posted by: David at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM (4t9J5)

30 I'm shocked he polled well. I figured he was done.
Ace, that poll will be proven to be an outlier. I guarantee it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM (FInyg)

31 With Bristol doing a new reality show. I figured Palin was out.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM (qjUnn)

32 "apodoca at May 27, 2011 "
I see the C4P cult has posted talking points.....

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM (VxqUc)

33 OH HERE WE GO

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM (6IReR)

34
what she says/tweets/Facebooks
NUFF SAID

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:29 PM (UzBwz)

35
I've always liked Giuliani. This business about "slick New Yorkers" or whatever he's supposed to be not appealing to Midwesterners makes me want to spit.

But what the hell, I'll gladly take him as AG.

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2011 07:29 PM (+/eKV)

36
Ugh, ain't that the truth. I've had to turn him off most of this week. Meh.

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 07:27 PM (VxqUc)

No kidding! Me too.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 07:29 PM (qjUnn)

37 We need to quit worrying about polls and bus tours and get onto the issue of the magic of twitter"

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 27, 2011 07:30 PM (bAL0J)

38 22 >>>What do you guys think of Giuliani? I'm shocked he polled well. I figured he was done. And I was three for three on people running.
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:25 PM (nj1bB)
I don't think CNN's polling phones are capable of dialing an area code that isn't in New York.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 07:30 PM (oVQFe)

39 That's not a bus tour. It's camping in style.

Posted by: bosk at May 27, 2011 07:31 PM (pUO5u)

40 We need to get ace on the record as far as Perry running for prez.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 07:31 PM (kaZUb)

41 I used to think that was God's country. Until I realized Kennedy and crew ruined it.

They did a number on the place, didn't they?

I need to move to NH.

Posted by: fluffy at May 27, 2011 07:31 PM (SwkdU)

42 Ace: "T-Paw made a mistake..."

Meh. As a Palin supporter, I thought it was harmless... and it was the right thing to say to get back on topic ASAP rather than have the questioner drive the rhetorical bus right into landmines set for Pawlenty.

I'd prefer to vote for Palin. I'd vote for Pawlenty. And there are quite a few from the Right I'd support to get the national bus out of Obama's ditch canyon.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 27, 2011 07:31 PM (1yViP)

43 "YRM at May 27, 2011 07:29"
You know what you are? You are totally an elitist, Rino, woman-hating, no-ball ass clown

Posted by: Couldn't Resist - Just Kidding at May 27, 2011 07:31 PM (VxqUc)

44
I have no idea what this means.

Posted by: David at May 27, 2011 07:28 PM

It means we've drifted away from the Constitution itself and it's time we got back to it.

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2011 07:32 PM (+/eKV)

45
Hello, world, here's a song that we're singin',
c'mon get happy
A whole lotta lovin' is what we'll be bringin',
we'll make you happy

We had a dream we'd go trav'lin' together
We'd spread a little lovin then we'd keep movin' on
Somethin' always happens whenever we're together
We get a happy feelin' when we're singin' a song

Trav'lin' along there's a song that we're singin',
c'mon get happy
A whole lotta lovin' is what we'll be bringin',
we'll make you happy
We'll make you happy,
we'll make you happy

Posted by: GET ON THE BUS at May 27, 2011 07:32 PM (FYCiJ)

46 How about that hot chick, Meg McCain? Ain't she hot!

Posted by: Killerdog at May 27, 2011 07:32 PM (aMQcA)

47 This is going to be tough for others, if she runs. Her supporters take a dim view of anyone who attacks her, but you have to attack an opponent, right
My guess: it won't be the front runners (Romney, Pawlenty - Perry if he gets in) it will be the second tier candidates looking to break out and nothing will get them more national attention than a couple of well timed barbs at Palin.
In fact, I can envision the first one at a Republican Debate:
Moderator: Congresswoman Bachmann, the same question to you.
Bachmann: Well, hold on, I want to make sure Governor Palin finished her answer:
Palin: I did.
Bachmann: Well, nice to see you finally finished something.
(Note: It may not be Bachmann per se - but you get the ideal)

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:33 PM (OWjjx)

48 I'm glad you're onside with me on this, Ace.

How about joining me for a private screening of Palin's Triumph of the Will? I'll butter the popcorn and you can write the 5,000-word review.

Posted by: andi sullivan at May 27, 2011 07:34 PM (wPxqH)

49 This is going to be tough for others, if she runs. Her supporters take a dim view of anyone who attacks her, but you have to attack an opponent, right?

I didn't take it as an attack, but on the subject, he'd help himself much more by showing chivalry and attacking her enemies.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 07:34 PM (dvQqE)

50 I'm going to cancel my Rush 24/7 thing because I'm not listening anyway and haven't since he got on the brief Trump thing, and then went all anti-Daniels and now back to Queen Sarah. Yawn. He also worshipped Romney(care) in 2008, so his picks are kinda crap.

Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (5NfIh)

51
Bachmann: Well, hold on, I want to make sure Governor Palin finished her answer:
Palin: I did.
Bachmann: Well, nice to see you finally finished something.
PWNED

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (UzBwz)

52 Still waiting for Pawlenty to admit that he's a stupid, scientifically illiterate opportunist who sold out his State and his Country. Not to mention hisdrive to silence the voices of reason while Al Gore Co. were merrily destroying our economy. Believing in AGW makeshim a fool.Attempting to marginalize the people in hisown Party who tried to correct him makes him an untrustworthy asshole.
He's got a lot of 'splaining to do.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (Z05lF)

53 What do you guys think of Giuliani? I'm shocked he polled well. I figured he was done. And I was three for three on people running.
Name recognition driven. You have heard of Giuliani. You may not have heard of Pawlenty or Cain.
I just don't see Giuliani getting in.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (OWjjx)

54 Attack her on the issues, no problem.

Yeah and Pawlenty is a wuss and boring, Daniels was whipped and is short and bald, Cain is black, Gingrich is a serial marry-er, etc., etc. But Palin should be excluded any attacks on personal matters or character.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:36 PM (GZitp)

55 We need to quit worrying about Meg McCain and who the ass clowns are.

Posted by: SlaveDog at May 27, 2011 07:36 PM (PidTa)

56 Look at me! Look at me!

Posted by: ZZZ-Paw at May 27, 2011 07:36 PM (uwljR)

57
I just don't see Giuliani getting in.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (OWjjx)
I was for him in 08..
Not sure now. Lots of baggage with Giuliani.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 07:37 PM (qjUnn)

58
Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (5NfIh)
I find Rush overrated but I still enjoy him, hey he's better then Beck in my opinion; yeah his back and forth on candidates has been annoying but he seems to give them benefits of a doubt here and there

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:37 PM (UzBwz)

59 It means we've drifted away from the Constitution itself and it's time we got back to it.
Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2011 07:32 PM (+/eKV)
--------------------------------------------------

I was being facetious. I know what she was attempting to say, but her statement was nothing but a potpourri of worthless platitudes. Why, she sounded like a politician!

Posted by: David at May 27, 2011 07:38 PM (4t9J5)

60 That's before or after she explains why she and Tpaw wrote pardon letters for a drug trafficker and future swindler, Mr. Vennes, or why Romney quit in the middle of the 2008 campaign, after having abandoned his state to Patrick and the Courts,

Posted by: Randolph Duke at May 27, 2011 07:38 PM (YGNmh)

61
Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:36 PM (GZitp)
+1

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:39 PM (UzBwz)

62 Yeah and Pawlenty is a wuss and boring, Daniels was whipped and is short and bald, Cain is black, Gingrich is a serial marry-er, etc., etc. But Palin should be excluded any attacks on personal matters or character.

Last I heard none of those candidates had their churches set on fire by Democrats who carefully placed the fuel so as to trap the entire congregation inside.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 07:40 PM (dvQqE)

63 Every stop will include crowds of bat-shit-crazy leftist nutbags. Should make for some great videos...

Posted by: Tea Party Jesus at May 27, 2011 07:40 PM (EL+OC)

64 Pawlenty sounds like a man who would work weekends if he got elected!

He's so out of touch!

And he hates women!

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Shultz at May 27, 2011 07:40 PM (4t9J5)

65 Lots of baggage with Giuliani.
I actually typed that in as a second sentence behind the "he won't get in" and decided not to.
But yea ---- Giuliani has some issues. Particularly what-is-his-name (Karrick - sorry I forgot) associate of his was convicted recently.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:41 PM (OWjjx)

66 Last I heard none of those candidates had their churches set on fire by
Democrats who carefully placed the fuel so as to trap the entire
congregation inside.
You tell 'em, Kenny Boy! Absolute Moral Authority, baby!

AB! SO! LUTE!

Posted by: Sarah Palin (TM) at May 27, 2011 07:42 PM (FYCiJ)

67 My question to everyone here is, why in hell do we keep speculating about who's running and who isn't? Can't we just wait until they do and see where it sits then? Honestly, none of us can see the future nor can we be inside these folks' minds, so all this does is get everyone in a lather about nothing.

Oh, and she's running, big time.

Posted by: tcn at May 27, 2011 07:42 PM (QuGK2)

68 Bob Dole!

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 07:43 PM (7mSYS)

69 The New Majority condemns Mallamutt for not sucking Giuliani's dick. (I didn't either, but that's because he turned down The New Majority's eager advances).

Posted by: David Frum at May 27, 2011 07:43 PM (dvQqE)

70 I have no idea what this means.
Allow me to enlighten you.
The "progressive" movement in American politics has twisted that word until it now means "progress towards socialism." Increasingly, those who self-identify as a "proud progressive" ala the Hildebeast, want you to think that they wish to take the American experiment to new advances in freedom,but their actions show a remarkable disdain for our Constitution and the principles upon which it rests.
They are nothing more than political control freaks who want to control every aspect of your life, from the food you eat to the thoughts you think. This political model has a rich history in the world, filled with the death of innocents and ending in great tragedy for the helpless people upon whom it is imposed. It has been proven to fail in spectacular fashion in each instance in which it has been imposed.
SarahCuda is calling for us to abandon this movement without saying so directly. She is admonishing us to renew our Founders principles, namely that of a small and weak (but not militarily) federal government that excercises restraint upon its people. It's also a call to roll back the oppressiveness of the current administration that's proven to be an outright disaster by any metric.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 07:43 PM (d0Tfm)

71 50
I'm going to cancel my Rush 24/7 thing because I'm not listening anyway
and haven't since he got on the brief Trump thing, and then went all
anti-Daniels and now back to Queen Sarah. Yawn. He also worshipped
Romney(care) in 2008, so his picks are kinda crap.


Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (5NfIh)
I have barely listened since he went off on Daniels... Governed with a 110% conservative record.. then praises true RINO's. He is in the tank for Palin.Palin will lose in '12. and '12 is too important. We wont get rid of Obamacare and we think the spending is bad now.. wait until he doesnt have a re election in front of him.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 07:44 PM (qjUnn)

72 Yeah and Pawlenty is a wuss and boring, Daniels was
whipped and is short and bald, Cain is black, Gingrich is a serial
marry-er, etc., etc. But Palin should be excluded any attacks on
personal matters or character.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:36 PM (GZitp)
Yeah, so why are we attacking THEM on THAT? Works the same all around. Can they do the job? Worth a darn?

Posted by: tcn at May 27, 2011 07:45 PM (QuGK2)

73 but you have to attack an opponent, right?

If you want to run, instead of doing the MFM's work on each other, let's hear your attacks on Capt. Training Wheels. We'll decide who to nominate.

Posted by: t-bird at May 27, 2011 07:45 PM (FcR7P)

74 I guess letting everyone who wants to run a campaign for President actually run a campaign for President is old and busted.


Posted by: sifty at May 27, 2011 07:45 PM (2dbd9)

75 Last I heard none of those candidates had their churches set on fire by
Democrats who carefully placed the fuel so as to trap the entire
congregation inside.

Your right, that's exactly who and what apodoca was talking about when he mentioned the GOP RINO elite. Church burning RINO sonsabitches.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:45 PM (GZitp)

76 Yeah,I'm pretty sure SP is running.It's going to be joy around here.I may need a vacation from AOSHQ.

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2011 07:46 PM (ah1wu)

77 Palin is just stealing from Buddy Roemer. His bus tour last year went swimmingly, and helped propel him into front runner status.
I wouldn't be opposed to Roemer/ Palin, I'm just wondering if she could handle being teamed up with another "rock star".

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 07:46 PM (dWPyO)

78 So you're cool with murdering people? Including undoubtedly some people who never even voted for Sarah, but were only guilty of "judging" Jesse Griffin by attending her church.

(Jesse Griffin was the blogger who started rumors about Palin and urged violence against her. He was an assistant kindergarten teacher, who was fired from his school for almost certainly molesting the kids).

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 07:46 PM (dvQqE)

79 I'm going to cancel my Rush 24/7 thing because I'm not listening anyway
and haven't since he got on the brief Trump thing, and then went all
anti-Daniels and now back to Queen Sarah. Yawn. He also worshipped
Romney(care) in 2008, so his picks are kinda crap.

Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 07:35 PM (5NfIh)

I couldn't agree with you more. Listen to my show and I'll tell you how the folks should think.

Posted by: FOX's Own Ted Baxter at May 27, 2011 07:47 PM (EL+OC)

80 I agree with T-Paw. Also, I'm about sick of the constitution and founders and all that being thrown around like catchphrases in a focus group. They"ve lost all meaning for me in an all out effort to sell books and drive up speaking fees. That doesn't apply only to Mrs. Palin, but also to all the other "conservatives" who crawled up out of the woodwork like roaches only after it seemed like the financially sound thing to do.

Posted by: Alex #11 at May 27, 2011 07:47 PM (fMQqT)

81 I demand a thread for us looking to talk about non-Palin things

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:48 PM (UzBwz)

82 Sarah the Victim!

(no, wait..)

Sarah the Warrior!

(no, wait...)

Sarah the Victim!

(no...

Posted by: Anony at May 27, 2011 07:48 PM (Yigvc)

83 I updated to include Sullivan's ludicrousness.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:48 PM (nj1bB)

84
her bus tour is like using menstrual fluid for torture?

Posted by: Longshanks Soothsayer at May 27, 2011 07:48 PM (g73jP)

85
Posted by: Anony at May 27, 2011 07:48 PM (Yigvc)
+2

Posted by: YRM at May 27, 2011 07:49 PM (UzBwz)

86 I wouldn't be opposed to Roemer/ Palin, I'm just wondering if she could handle being teamed up with another "rock star".
You know what you want. We all want it.
Roemer/Keyes - 2012
Be the Crazy!

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:49 PM (OWjjx)

87 "SarahPAC is dedicated to building America's future, supporting fresh ideas and candidates who share our vision for reform and innovation."

I dunno, reading what she posts on FB I honestly think she is planning to repeat the 2010 shtick of pushing somewhat outsider conservative candidates for the house and senate. I think she will probably not endorse anyone in the presidential primary so she can push for whomever wins.

I think she can "have her cake and eat it too" Lots of attention and influence on the countries leadership (congress is important) and still be able to enjoy arizona sunshine this winter instead of stumping on the grueling campaign trail.

Posted by: palerider at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (dkExz)

88 I will go as low as Canadian
Ouch, Ace. Ouch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (FInyg)

89

It's my understanding that Palin will ride a hog in the parade, or maybe it was the hog will ride Palin?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (cwFVA)

90 My question to everyone here is, why in hell do we keep speculating about who's running and who isn't? Can't we just wait until they do and see where it sits then? Honestly, none of us can see the future nor can we be inside these folks' minds, so all this does is get everyone in a lather about nothing.

None of the declared or speculated or potential candidates excite me. That's why until after the election, my official policy is Fuck Your Guy&trade.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (hlY6R)

91 What's that old saying about the guy using the Hitler/Nazis is losing the argument?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (dWPyO)

92 McCain had a bus to didn't he?Not really original.

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (ah1wu)

93 Ace,

You should have a 'If you're a Palinista donate to AoSHQ today' drive with this warning: Tomorrow we will have a if you can't stand the sound of Palin's voice (or if you think she'll cost us 2012) fund drive. Whomever donates the most money gets their way for one week. Either A) a Palin is awesome thread once a day for a week or B)no Palin thread for at least a week.

Win-Win!

Posted by: momma at May 27, 2011 07:50 PM (penCf)

94 Now TPaw was so into the carbon trading scheme, that the methane running buses, froze one not so long ago winter, Cain doesn't know why we're in Afghanistan, Gingrich was a flack for Freddie Mac, and a AGW promoter, but that would get in the way, of your screed.

Posted by: Randolph Duke at May 27, 2011 07:51 PM (YGNmh)

95 We speculate because we are political nerdos who constitute about 2% of the population.
Other people collect stamps, or read US Weekly.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 07:51 PM (dWPyO)

96 >>Honestly, none of us can see the future nor can we be inside these
folks' minds, so all this does is get everyone in a lather about
nothing.<<

We can't get in a lather about nothing? You can't be serious.

Posted by: SlaveDog at May 27, 2011 07:51 PM (PidTa)

97 >> Thanks to a commenter, who suggests I'm "onside" with Sullivan re:
Palin, and since he says "onside," I must conclude he is a damn
foreigner. Most likely British, though I will go as low as "Canadian."

Could be a fuckin' Scandi infiltrator, Ace. IP trace running now.

Posted by: Andy at May 27, 2011 07:52 PM (veZ9n)

98 What's that old saying about the guy using the Hitler/Nazis is losing the argument?
Godwin's Law.
We need a revision. The first person to bring up Palin OT in a thread loses the argument.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:52 PM (FInyg)

99 Church burning RINO sonsabitches.

No, it was the Democrats who set her church aflame.

OTOH, David Frum has called her a cancer. Think long and hard about what he's implying should happen to her.

Also, since losing a campaign or being a moderate conservative GOP governor is usually not considered sufficient cause to be considered a cancer, I have to conclude that what makes her a "cancer" is the other fact about her: that she supports gun rights and didn't have her mentally handicapped baby murdered.

Which makes the rest of us who support 2A and don't kill our children cancers as well, to be dealt with the same way.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 07:53 PM (dvQqE)

100 Roemer/Keyes - 2012
Wow. Just wow. Really, I've been secretly hoping for a dream ticket like that, but have been reluctant to bring it up. Thanks man for having the courage to settle for nothing but the very best.
I'm going to email Governor Roemer and put a bug in his ear.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 07:53 PM (dWPyO)

101 Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 07:46 PM (dvQqE)

I'm pretty sure you're having a conversation with an imaginary person inside your head, best not to post those.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:54 PM (GZitp)

102
Best Palin gam shot evah!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 07:54 PM (cwFVA)

103 Other people collect stamps, or read US Weekly.
Or collect hobo "memorabilia" and watch Japanese hentai tranny-wrestling midget pr0n.
We're inthe clear minority either way.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 07:54 PM (d0Tfm)

104
living rent free.


It's Sarah, you betcha.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2011 07:55 PM (ud5dN)

105 >>>OTOH, David Frum has called her a cancer. Think long and hard about what he's implying should happen to her.


ohmygod.

Ken, you need to relax. Walk around a little bit. Consider the flowers. Regard the clouds.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:55 PM (nj1bB)

106 I was going to stay with the last thread so I wouldn't be labeled as a Palinista. But damn! This thread looks likea helluva lot more fun.

Posted by: Soona at May 27, 2011 07:55 PM (UT8P3)

107 Palin obviously has every right to do whatever she likes...but I am kind of getting weary of the speculation. I honestly don't think she can win a general election. I am not sure about the nomination, but all this will she won't she stuff just kind of gets old after awhile.

I think Palin was badly treated by the media, but then again I think George W. Bush was also badly treated by the media, but there has to be more than victim status and celebrity status to make her someone people will want for president.

And it would help if some of her supporters would ease up a bit. I know they love her beyond all reason, but sometimes they are off putting and that does not help Palin, in fact it actually makes the whole issue of Palin as candidate more testy. They don't just love Palin, they seem to hate everyone else. That gets old.

Posted by: Terrye at May 27, 2011 07:55 PM (SkhDW)

108 I'll admit it, I'd like to rub lotion all over Sarah Palin's body. And that's not a shot.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 07:57 PM (kaZUb)

109
Ever noticed when elections draw near, friends and relatives become more assholish?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 07:57 PM (cwFVA)

110 Admit it, you want to KILL her, don'tcha RINOs? Huh? Huh? Huh? Don'tcha? Don'tcha? DON'TCHA? DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION, ANSWER NOW!

Posted by: Ken You Believe This Shit? at May 27, 2011 07:57 PM (FYCiJ)

111 14 Dang. No dick tonite and it's Friday.
Target is having a special on C cell batteries. Better get down there.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 07:21 PM (FInyg)

Damn you're a piker unless you've moved onto gas powered.

Posted by: Jaimo at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (s5bJK)

112 Terrye, the comparison I'd make is if there were a catchy pop song. And you liked it.

And then it got overplayed a bit. And you started to not like it so much, or wished the band would put out a new track, something deeper.

And then this song got really popular with some, and they keep telling you how great it is, and at first you're like "yeah I do like it" but they won't stop with telling you it's the greatest song ever and all other songs are the SUXXOR and then one day you wake up and say, "Gee, I kinda hate that song now, because no one will permit me to be just a bit down on it."

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (nj1bB)

113 Ken, you need to relax. Walk around a little bit. Consider the flowers. Regard the clouds.
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:55 PM (nj1bB)
Watch some porn and snap one off.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (oVQFe)

114 Palins bus tour is just like the holocaust. Just like it.

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (MtwBb)

115 >>>OTOH, David Frum has called her a cancer. Think long and hard about what he's implying should happen to her

You see what happens, ace? You see what happens when you post a Palin thread?! This is what happens when you post a Palin thread!!!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (hlY6R)

116

Watch some porn and snap one off.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (oVQFe)
Is that like pinching a loaf?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (cwFVA)

117 Can't we all just get along, ya sonsabitches?

Posted by: Bugler at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (VXBR1)

118 No, that was David Brooks, Frum had some other babbling, totally without substance.

Posted by: Randolph Duke at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (YGNmh)

119 Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 07:53 PM (dWPyO)
If Buddy and Alan are ever at the same campaign event -- we gotta do the roadie.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (OWjjx)

120 >>You see what happens, ace? You see what happens when you post a Palin
thread?! This is what happens when you post a Palin thread!!!


Well, it is a Palin thread.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (kaZUb)

121 I'll admit it, I'd like to rub lotion all over Sarah Palin's body. And that's not a shot.
Stick with the scented oil. "Lotion" could be calamine lotion.
And I really wouldn't want to speculate on why you'd want to use that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (FInyg)

122 "Gee, I kinda hate that song now, because no one will permit me to be just a bit down on it."
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (nj1bB)
Which is exactly the way you are with ABBA

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (MtwBb)

123 Ken, just noting here, just spitballin'...

Do you think there's any similarity between claiming that because Frum called her a "cancer on the party" that he wishes to KILL her, and, I don't know, the media claiming that because Palin used bullseyes on contested races she wanted to kill Democrats?

Are these... even remotely similar in your brain?

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (nj1bB)

124 I was being facetious.
And I thought you were serious, since your handle seems new.
Alcohol may have been involved. It is Friday night in Moron Central, after all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (d0Tfm)

125 Dole/Roemer 2012
Because when you have a 4-hour boner and a crooked governor on your side, what can't you accomplish?

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:01 PM (7mSYS)

126 116
Watch some porn and snap one off.
Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (oVQFe)
Is that like pinching a loaf?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 07:59 PM (cwFVA)
Its the only line from the "I'm a mac" guy and Jonah Hill vehicle "Accepted" that I find funny. Said at the beginning of the movie about the Vice Principal coming into the room they were in.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 08:01 PM (oVQFe)

127 What if the bus tour has nothing to do with possibly running for prez? She's saying basically we need to reconnect with our roots. For a good hunk of public dumbed downed educated folks they have no idea what that is. If her whole bus tour is a live history lesson on the republic and what that means, with mass coverage, you know the lsm can't help themselves, some of that will sift out. And maybe it will stick a little so that maybe never again will 52% vote for an empty suit.

Posted by: ranger117 at May 27, 2011 08:01 PM (hwVhQ)

128 >>>Palins bus tour is just like the holocaust. Just like it.

Hmmm... So Palin will be visting Civil War sites, huh?

Kind of like a slavery-defending Rebel Army, huh?

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:01 PM (nj1bB)

129 >> Palins bus tour is just like the holocaust. Just like it.

This! And Palin's bus is just like the Nazi death trains.

Posted by: Dr. James Hansen, NASA GISS at May 27, 2011 08:01 PM (veZ9n)

130 +1 Terrye #107

Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (5NfIh)

131 82: I'm not denying that Sarah's a victim. But she's a real victim, not a phony one. The same people who hate her also hate you. They hate your wife. They hate your kids. They masturbate daily thinking about raping and killing all of you.

Not because you did anything to hurt them--they are happy joyous people with cradle to grave sex, drugs and eternal orgasm, bought with your sweat and blood. Their partying lives are all you could dream of. No, there's nothing short of killing them you could do to hurt them.

No, they want to kill you, me, and all normal, decent American working people BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LIKE THEM. We're not evil rapist murderous aborting creeps.

We are human. They are a disease.

You people always talk about how horny you are. Do you really want to get laid? Use violence against these Satans and brag about it. NOTHING turns a woman on like a man mutilating another man.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (dvQqE)

132 And then this song got really popular with some, and they keep telling you how great it is, and at first you're like "yeah I do like it" but they won't stop with telling you it's the greatest song ever and all other songs are the SUXXOR and then one day you wake up and say, "Gee, I kinda hate that song now, because no one will permit me to be just a bit down on it."
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 07:58 PM (nj1bB)

So you did like Barbara Streisand's "People Who Need People".

Posted by: Soona at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (UT8P3)

133 These Palin supporters are a little unhinged.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, r3Vo_|utionary at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (hlY6R)

134 I wasn't going to go there but yes, it's a racist bus tour.

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 08:03 PM (MtwBb)

135 If Buddy and Alan are ever at the same campaign event -- we gotta do the roadie.
Hell yeah!
I've never been to the Ames, Iowa Jiffy Lube before. Swore I'd see it before I died.
We could live blog from it if Ace (I mean lets be real, why wouldn't he?) puts up a thread about it.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 08:03 PM (dWPyO)

136 Rush was very clear that he is not endorsing anyone now. He just made the mistake of defending Palin, which is enough to be labeled a Palinistabot or whatever it is they like to call you, with all the mythical bullshit that implies.
I have heard numerous Palin supporters say they will vote for whoever gets the nomination. I don't think I have seen anyone who attacks her say they would vote for her if she gets the nod.

Posted by: real joe at May 27, 2011 08:03 PM (w7Lv+)

137 Palin wears red a lot.

You know who else wears red?

A guy who rebelled against his Father-Creator, maybe? Ring any bells?

Sometimes called the Prince of Lies? The Beast of the Apocalypse?

Yeah, let's not make it too obvious, huh, Sarah, I mean, SATAN?

Five letters beginning with an S, two a's, a pair of consonants, and both are Biblical names.

Nice try there BeezleBOOBS.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:04 PM (nj1bB)

138 Sorry, I went overboard there. What can I say? I lose it sometimes.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:04 PM (dvQqE)

139
I was being facetious.





Posted by: David at May 27, 2011 07:38 PM

Holy carp, call me pwned.

Posted by: arhooley at May 27, 2011 08:04 PM (+/eKV)

140 You people always talk about how horny you are. Do you really want to get laid? Use violence against these Satans and brag about it. NOTHING turns a woman on like a man mutilating another man.
Alpha!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 08:04 PM (dWPyO)

141 Ken, THERE you are....

Posted by: 1960 at May 27, 2011 08:04 PM (FYCiJ)

142 Rush was very clear that he is not endorsing anyone now
That is too bad. His 2008 endorsement of Romney worked wonders.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 08:05 PM (OWjjx)

143 Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (dvQqE)

Dude, not even Bob Dole can support that idea

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:05 PM (7mSYS)

144 I heard Sarah Palin laughs when she reads the Diary of Anne Frank.

And when I say "laughs," I'm censoring myself. Let's just say it makes her "happy" and leave it at that.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:05 PM (nj1bB)

145 Funny thing: I'm not a Palinista. Just a man who can't stand to see women or innocent people hurt.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (dvQqE)

146
These Palin supporters are a little unhinged.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, r3Vo_|utionary at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (hlY6R)
Unconcerned with her campaign, but definitely interested in bumping nasties while watching Pink Panther 'toons.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (cwFVA)

147 Umm, how about a music thread?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (d0Tfm)

148 Well, at least Sarah is not a skinhead like Pawlenty.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (kaZUb)

149 Shucks, that big ol' bus is just half a her new house. Think how purty it'll look up on ceeement blocks behind Bristol's new crib.

Posted by: the Charlie nDaniels of the torque wrench at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (le5qc)

150 Sarah now reminds me of the "nice" guy who whines about how he can't get any girlfriends but he doesn't do anything about his appearance and social skills.

Posted by: Anony at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (Yigvc)

151 Welcome back Ken!
Here, have a cold one.
Oh, and this thorazine too. You'll like that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (FInyg)

152 I would like to see her as Sec of Energy. Get some credibility back.
She isnt going to win in '12. Fair or unfair.. the media trashed her and trashed her good. There are too many people who dont pay attention that made up their mind and it aint going to change. True/untrue.. it doesnt matter... most people dont spend their time on political blogs or watching Fox 24/7.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (qjUnn)

153 >>>Umm, how about a music thread?

Just general? What do you want? I'll put one up if you sort of host it and get the ball running.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (nj1bB)

154 Ok, Ken.

Some body jammed about six inches of Crazy Stick in your ear and just wiggled that motherfucker ALL around, didn't they?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (hlY6R)

155 I've decided I want Palin to run and win the primary. Not because I support her or anything, but because her loyalists will be fucking insufferable otherwise.

Posted by: Oily Taints at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (8dZTM)

156 Wow. Every Palin thread is worse than the last.

The commies must be loving this stupid cannibal shit.

Each person has to run a little bit farther upstream to piss, just to see the reaction from the folks downstream.


Posted by: sifty at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (2dbd9)

157 I mean you don't have to be there forever but you're not just going to post one freakin' comment right?

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (nj1bB)

158 82: I'm not denying that Sarah's a victim. But she's a real victim, not a phony one. The same people who hate her also hate you. They hate your wife. They hate your kids. They masturbate daily thinking about raping and killing all of you. Not because you did anything to hurt them--they are happy joyous people with cradle to grave sex, drugs and eternal orgasm, bought with your sweat and blood. Their partying lives are all you could dream of. No, there's nothing short of killing them you could do to hurt them. No, they want to kill you, me, and all normal, decent American working people BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LIKE THEM. We're not evil rapist murderous aborting creeps. We are human. They are a disease. You people always talk about how horny you are. Do you really want to get laid? Use violence against these Satans and brag about it. NOTHING turns a woman on like a man mutilating another man.
Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:02 PM (dvQqE)
Crazy 720

Posted by: Jackhole at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (+qHxi)

159 Sorry, I went overboard there.

You don't say?

Posted by: fluffy at May 27, 2011 08:08 PM (SwkdU)

160 You can't understand the power of "Triumph of Will" until you watch it standing up in room full of cadets after an hour or so close order drill.

Posted by: Jean at May 27, 2011 08:08 PM (7P7Ij)

161 Well, at least Sarah is not a skinhead like Pawlenty.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:06 PM (kaZUb)
Pawlenty is a frigging Canadian. He had a mullet until he started running for president. That will get you through the border here in washington.

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 08:08 PM (MtwBb)

162 I heard Sarah Palin laughs when she reads the Diary of Anne Frank.
Aaahhh, now I see where this is going. Our Mister Ewok is fanning the flames whilst cooling a certain part of himself in pudding.
Or, as it's commonly known, Friday night.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 08:08 PM (d0Tfm)

163 This isn't the bus's fault. You're all just gonna have to get over the time you were forced to watch one of Tracy Partridge's tambourine solos.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 27, 2011 08:09 PM (y/+eD)

164 Yeah, let's stop worrying about bus tours and start worrying about "conservative" candidates who signed 20% ethanol mandates into law...

Posted by: barackin' hissy obama at May 27, 2011 08:09 PM (tpz0h)

165 Just general? What do you want? I'll put one up if you sort of host it and get the ball running.
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:07 PM (nj1bB)
How bout your favorite, ABBA!

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 08:09 PM (MtwBb)

166 I mean you don't have to be there forever but you're not just going to post one freakin' comment right?
I'll post more if it is a music/ Buddy Roemer thread.

Posted by: Delta Smelt staying on message at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (dWPyO)

167 I don't think I have seen anyone who attacks her say they would vote for her if she gets the nod.

This is ridiculous. I haven't seen ANY conservative who doesn't like her, including myself, who hasn't said they'd vote for her. Of course I would vote for her if she were the nominee, as would any of us. We aren't stupid.

Then again, I'm not sure what you mean by "attack." The people who attack her are usually Democrats who won't vote for any Republican. There are others, like us here, who don't attack but don't like her. The problem is, a whole lot of Palin cult people think any criticism is an "attack."

Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (5NfIh)

168 Bob Dole has it on good authority that Sarah Palin is easy.

And by "good authority", Bob Dole means Bob Dole.

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (7mSYS)

169 Dr. Spank, Pawlenty apologized for being a Skinhead and murdering black farmers as part of the Heartland Volk Front. He said it was a bad call. He manned up.

But you know who keeps children in her basement inside a special compartment which forces their bodies into deformed shapes as they grow? And then she uses the deformed-by-torture-box children to serve her in a freakish carnival of satanic evil?

Well let's just say her name starts with an S and ends with arah Palin.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (nj1bB)

170 I guess a cold beer would be nice...like I said, I overreacted.

One reason I never ran for office is that the local police have a special file on me, just for the various times they had to have "discussions" with me. There was actually only one count of battery from twenty years ago, but a shitload of warnings. Once they even made me ride in the ambulance to talk to a shrink, and I spent the next two years paying for that ride.

OK, admission against interest over. Back to our regular programming...

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (dvQqE)

171 I wish she would wear open toed shoes more often.

Posted by: Dick Morris at May 27, 2011 08:10 PM (EL+OC)

172 I think Ken is a turfer.He says some crazy violent stuff(with Christian overtones).

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (ah1wu)

173 That is too bad. His 2008 endorsement of Romney worked wonders.
Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 08:05 PM (OWjjx)

I listened to Rush all through the last campaign, and I don't remember him endorsing anyone until it became clear that it was more or less going to be between Romney and McCain. (And that was before the Palin/VP pick)

Posted by: Soona at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (UT8P3)

174 The same kind of people who hate the Ryan plan, although they don't know what's in it. I mean we have in the opposition, a system that not only spits on the Hippocratic oath, but actually has a formula by which the elderly and the inferm
are deprived of care, the Complete Lives system, embodied in the IPAB.

Posted by: Randolph Duke at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (YGNmh)

175 You can't understand the power of "Triumph of Will" until you watch it standing up in room full of cadets after an hour or so close order drill.
You also can't understand the power of amateur night at a strip club until you've experienced it with 300 drunken, screaming paratroopers.
But I'm not sure how that comment fit in the thread here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (FInyg)

176 Ace, Bob Dole requests some of that new-fangled Wurlitzer music

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (7mSYS)

177 I mean you don't have to be there forever but you're not just going to post one freakin' comment right?
We really need a Buddy Roemer/East St. Louis/.....The Greatness......That Is.......Zach Greinke!!!!ALL CAP ELEVENTY BECAUSE HE IS THAT FUCKING GREAT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 08:12 PM (OWjjx)

178 Do you think there's any similarity between claiming
that because Frum called her a "cancer on the party" that he wishes to
KILL her, and, I don't know, the media claiming that because Palin used
bullseyes on contested races she wanted to kill Democrats?





Are these... even remotely similar in your brain?







Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:00 PM (nj1bB)
I will say that Frum, as a Jew, should not use that language in any context. It was a rhetorical trope the Nazis used to justify exterminating the Jewish "disease organisms infecting the European body politic."A really excellent historical treatment of the origins of the Final Solution and its relationship to the German medical community is The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide (sounds like a dime novel but is a scholarly work):Martin Luther, as the most German of Germans, the
most pious of the pious,59 combined
communal and theological forms of anti-Semitism. Significantly, he was first a
defender of the Jews whom he wished to become of one heart with us.
But when they failed to convert and become part of the
Christian-Protestant-German spiritual and biological community, he denounced
them as children of the Devil who being foreigners, should
possess nothing, and were, moreover, profoundly dangerous: Know, O
adored Christ that aside from the Devil, you have no enemy more
venomous, more desperate, more bitter, than a true Jew who truly, seeks to be a
Jew. For Luther, Jews were an intolerable reminder of flawed German
Christian claims to totalized spiritual and communal immortality. By their very
existence, Jews subvert those claims (These dogs mock us and our
religions!).60 To be sure, Luther stood
for much else, including the internalization of conscience what Erik
Erikson called the meaning of meaning it.61

But that very achievement deepened the
psychological power of his anti-Semitic message. The development of a
Nordic Christianity four hundred years later could then be said to
have completed Luthers work, with Hitler and Luther
partners in the service of the German peoples welfare.62 The genocidal principle of destroying the Jews
in the name of healing the Germans is not new.

Thus perceived as an
absolute threat to the continuous life of ones own people, the victimized
group is seen as the bearer of death and therefore the embodiment of evil. More
than merely nonhuman or heathen, it is dangerously anti-man and anti-God (or
anti-Christ). Its disease takes the form of infecting others with death taint
and deadly weakness: Hitler referred contemptuously to conscience, this
Jewish invention and to Judeo-Christian compassion for weakness. Only
genocide, total elimination of the disease, will protect one from that
weakness, and in the very act of genocide one overcomes vestiges of the deadly
weakness-disease already in one, such as (in the case of the Nazis)
brotherhood humanity [and] pacifism.63 Hence the parallel imagery in genocide: the
bearer of deadly disease threatens ones own people with extinction so one
must absolutely extinguish him first.

Posted by: stuiec at May 27, 2011 08:12 PM (HMdeP)

179 How bout your favorite, ABBA!

I am emailing you a picture of my fist. Please print it out, wrap it around your hand, and punch yourself in the balls repeatedly until you vomit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2011 08:13 PM (hlY6R)

180 Seems Ken's as big an attention whore as Andwoo

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (H+LJc)

181 Pawlenty = Skinhead Murderer



Romney = Mormon who believes in child sacrifice; plans for a 2nd wife

Gingrich = Really? Do I have to?

Bachmann = Probably a dude

Palin = Sexy and sensual

Case closed.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (kaZUb)

182 OK, I'll play.
Sarah Palin is a ____ who _____ with a_____ once.
Damn, this is hard.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (d0Tfm)

183 Posted by: Soona
Yup. That was the sameyear Romney was completely fucked over by the GOP "establishment" and then woke up the next morning being called "the establishment". Low point in GOP history, for sure.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (Z05lF)

184 Ace, Bob Dole requests some of that new-fangled Wurlitzer music

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:11 PM (7mSYS)
No we must have the harpsichord!

Posted by: Pawlenty grovin on Lawrence Welk at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (M9Ie6)

185 But I'm not sure how that comment fit in the thread here.

Any comment about a strip club is fine in any thread, I'm disappointed when there isn't one.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (GZitp)

186 ace: "Just general? What do you want? I'll put one up if you sort of host it and get the ball running."

Favorite jingle or catchiest pop song? Granted, I'm not asking for it, but someone might. (Not the someone, just... someone. And not naming names, either.)

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 27, 2011 08:15 PM (1yViP)

187 We really need a Buddy Roemer/East St. Louis/.....The Greatness......That Is.......Zach Greinke!!!!
/Alan Keyes/Zombie David Treen sock/ Poontang/cheerleader/crazy ewok pic thread!

Posted by: Delta Smelt staying on message at May 27, 2011 08:15 PM (dWPyO)

188 182 What?Bachmann is pretty hawt.

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2011 08:15 PM (ah1wu)

189 Don't worry Ken, we understand.

This one's for you, buddy.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 27, 2011 08:16 PM (FYCiJ)

190 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iICDCj-qOEU


Well I met her out at Murphy's restaurant

She said she was fresh from the farm

And I remember thinkin' for a country girl

That she went pretty well armed

We sat there talkin' by the lobster tank

I ordered her a slow gin fizz

And when them chicken fried steaks arrived

She said I like living like this



So I made her the queen of my double wide trailer

With the polyester curtains and the redwood deck

NOW she's run off and I've got to trail her

Dang her black heart and her pretty red neck



Well a few nights later I run into her

With some stranger on a park bench

She said he rebuilds engines and his name is Earl

He's the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench

I whispered honey let's just go on home

And have some onion rings and watch TV

And as I walked her to the truck

Earl was cryin' don't you leave me

Posted by: Sammy Kershaw at May 27, 2011 08:16 PM (le5qc)

191 "Sarah Palin is a ____ who _____ with a _____ once."


Hey Mad Libs! Okay I choose gerbil, sauna'd and banana.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 27, 2011 08:16 PM (y/+eD)

192 Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:14 PM (kaZUb)

You forgot:

Cain - Poisoning the youth of today with pizza laced with arsenic

Johnson - Poisoning the youth of today by directly handing them crack pipes

Paul - Poisoning the youth of today by constantly running for president

Posted by: Bob Dole! at May 27, 2011 08:16 PM (7mSYS)

193 Dr. Spank, Pawlenty apologized for being a Skinhead and murdering black farmers as part of the Heartland Volk Front. He said it was a bad call. He manned up.

Remember a while back when you were talking about the difference between "regular" funny and "professional" funny?

That is the pro stuff, ace. Fucking hilarious!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2011 08:17 PM (hlY6R)

194 No, steevy, actually I'm just a conservative Republican from a conservative Republican family in a more or less conservative town (I don't live there any more). I do get pissed easily. I'm never quite sure how others manage to avoid it.

As far as Christian, well I do go to church most of the time. I like to tell people that I'm religious but not spiritual, just to mess with their heads mostly, although there is some truth to it.

(Note that the normal hipster phrase is "spiritual but not religious," which is their way of saying that they're too degenerate to be Christians and too chickenshit to be atheists and take responsibility for their own lives, so they invent invisible people who tell them they're cool and zap their lives into perfect bliss).

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:17 PM (dvQqE)

195 The trip, which will propel Mrs Palin back into the limelight after
several months of relative anonymity, follows a number of other moves
that suggest that either she is serious about a presidential bid or
simply attempting to burnish her celebrity appeal.

The movie and the bus trip are stalking horses for a Presidential bid. They are ways to explore the potential for a successful bid without spending a lot of money and without triggering the regulatory/Fox News policy issues that come with forming a true exploratory committee.

If the movie helps improve her numbers in Iowa and the bus tour helps her in New Hampshire and South Carolina, she will have evidence to support a run. If her numbers don't improve, she can decide not to run without ever jumping in.

Posted by: stuiec at May 27, 2011 08:17 PM (HMdeP)

196 Any comment about a strip club is fine in any thread, I'm disappointed when there isn't one.
I was talking about her comment, not mine.
In mine I was thinking specifically about Rick's Lounge in Fayetteville, NC.
Good times. Good times.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:17 PM (FInyg)

197 189
182 What?Bachmann is pretty hawt.


That's 25% talk.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 08:17 PM (kaZUb)

198 listened to Rush all through the last campaign, and I don't remember him endorsing anyone until it became clear that it was more or less going to be between Romney and McCain. (And that was before the Palin/VP pick)
Limbaugh went in for Romney right before Super Tuesday with an endorsement, which you basically impy. So, Uh....your point? Oh, wait, here, let me provide it:
Well, Rush waited till it was too late because had Rush got in earlier and endorsed someone then the primary would have been over because it is, like, Rush, ya know?
Sorry. As far as being a talk radio revolutionary and success, Rush hasno equals.
As far as a political stratagest, he is probably wrong alot more than he lets on and right not nearly as often as he would like you to believe.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 08:18 PM (OWjjx)

199 OK, admission against interest over.

See, you didn't need to tell us any of that. On the internet, no one knows you are really a dog, and no has to find out you are nuts.

All the overboard stuff, if you really need to let it out, can be typed into Notepad, then deleted.

I may be the craziest baboon in this zoo, but you aren't going to read that here.

Posted by: fluffy at May 27, 2011 08:18 PM (SwkdU)

200 Bachmann is in the top 1% of women in her age group. She's like 55 people.

Posted by: Delta Smelt staying on message at May 27, 2011 08:19 PM (dWPyO)

201 Hey, Undead, I like Metallica. It's just a negative when politicians say they do. Not a disqualification, but a negative.

Posted by: Ken at May 27, 2011 08:19 PM (dvQqE)

202 They are ways to explore the potential for a successful bid without spending a lot of money and without triggering the regulatory/Fox News policy issues that come with forming a true exploratory committee.Maybe. Maybe.
Could also be a way to reestablish credibility as a kingmaker after sqaundering it over that last 2 years. Once the trip is done, might be easier to make that case that the road to the White House goes through Sarah Palin.
Sorry, I just realized what I wrote. All you pervs leave that right where it is.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:19 PM (FInyg)

203 Music thread up.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:19 PM (nj1bB)

204 WOW just WOW!!
Ive seen this kind of hatred for Palin at Huffpo/kos etc but never expected to see it HERE?
I think Im glad to be an independent now if this is how conservatives are treated by their own!

Posted by: Dien Cai Dau at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM (8fOyJ)

205 Bachmann is in the top 1% of women in her age group.

So am I.

Posted by: Lady Gaga, in the top 1% for weirdness at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM (7mSYS)

206 196Yup.My thought's exactly.

Posted by: steevy at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM (ah1wu)

207 ace: "Well let's just say her name starts with an S and ends with arah Palin."



Hmmm. No, not, like, ringing a bell. Could you, like, spell it out for me?

Posted by: Babylon McCain at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM (1yViP)

208 If Meggie Mac and Ace go on a date and she's in the mood, Ace won't talk about Palin because he wants SOMETHING out of this sudden nightmare. He's drunk and she looks 50 lbs lighter....

Meggie starts whining about Palin, but Ace REALLY needs for her to talk about T-Paw or even the fal-tor-pan won't raise it from the dead

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM (vdfwz)

209 I think Im glad to be an independent now if this is how conservatives are treated by their own!
We like to call it "vetting"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:21 PM (FInyg)

210 Thanks, Empire. And by the way, I don't know if you saw, but I specifically apologized for the inconsistency of asking you not to do r-word jokes and then doing a big thread myself.

I never said you weren't being funny. I just didn't want that word to get picked up on too much by searches.

If you notice when I mention DSK now I say "sexually assault."

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:21 PM (nj1bB)

211 We like to call it "vetting"
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 27, 2011 08:21 PM (FInyg)
or friday night.

Posted by: robtr at May 27, 2011 08:22 PM (MtwBb)

212 The other worry is-- "What if ten people pick up on this joke? What if 50 people do?"

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 08:22 PM (nj1bB)

213 Posted by: stuiec at May 27, 2011 08:12 PM (HMdeP)
Isn't there some rule against using footnotes in Moron comments? WTF is this anyway, Foreign Affairs?

Posted by: Cicero at May 27, 2011 08:23 PM (QKKT0)

214 T-Paw, the man who makes Ward Cleaver look like a bad boy superstud

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Posted by: chaeli at May 27, 2011 08:24 PM (vrWJB)

216 Damn, even the spam is extra-dull on a t-paw thread

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2011 08:25 PM (vdfwz)

217 The other worry is-- "What if ten people pick up on this joke? What if 50 people do?"
Oh I've picked up on the joke....I like to let the professionals handle it though. Ace, E of J or Chemjeff for example.
Seriously, E of J is the funniest commenter on her and that's saying alot. I'd give him a little more room just for that.

Posted by: Delta Smelt staying on message at May 27, 2011 08:25 PM (dWPyO)

218 Nothing wrong with double standards iow is what I mean I guess.

Posted by: Delta Smelt staying on message at May 27, 2011 08:27 PM (dWPyO)

219 I have a vision of Sarah and Todd riding matching Harleys with Rolling Thunder.
Todd on one side LC Alan West on the other. Gun metal grey half helmets and American flags strapped behind!
I think ace is startin to feel the love!

Leave Allah Pundits girlfriend outta this Meghan has to have her own thread too many issues to mention starting with her last name.

Posted by: Concealed Kerry its ur dooty at May 27, 2011 08:29 PM (tHnoW)

220 @212,

Oh, I got that. I was just messin' with you. I had already ridden that bit into the ground since the Slut Walk thread, anyway.

Then that French bastard goes and makes r*p* cool again.

FML.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 27, 2011 08:30 PM (hlY6R)

221 Ace, E of J or Chemjeff for example.

umm what? I'm not a professional anything

Posted by: chemjeff at May 27, 2011 08:31 PM (7mSYS)

222 I think a certain Ewok oughta stay out of our sandbox after, say, 5 p.m.

Posted by: conanthelibertarian at May 27, 2011 08:31 PM (R4UAB)

223 There is truth in that. But oddly, the blogger the Make Believe Media
has chosen to elevate to the status of Important Pundit is the one
blogger who exemplifies the worst of the stereotype of bloggers as
obsessive, crazy cranks with too much time and too little sobriety.

Andi was a journalist for the NY Slimes before he became a blogger, so he carries the credentials desired by the MBM. He was fired by Howell Raines and once Raines himself walked the plank over l'affaire Blair, he moved back to the left and maneuvered to come back from the exile of the blogosphere

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2011 08:31 PM (vdfwz)

224 Ace put up the music thread - now where is our Buddy Roemer thread!

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at May 27, 2011 08:32 PM (OWjjx)

225 She's not my first choice, but damn if I won't have the biggest schadenboner ever if she managed to beat Zero.

Posted by: ARL at May 27, 2011 08:36 PM (xCoRj)

226 Then again, I'm not sure what you mean by "attack." The people who attack her
are usually Democrats who won't vote for any Republican. There are
others, like us here, who don't attack but don't like her. The problem is, a whole lot of Palin cult people think any criticism is an "attack."


Posted by: Beth at May 27, 2011 08:10 PMA fair point, though the criticism in question is sort of repetitive and boring at this point, especially coming from the same people who said pretty much the same exact thing the day before. And the day before that. A wise man said something about running the same riffs 6,000 times is neither that funny nor that effective, and is unhelpful in garnering support for whomever you prefer.
The most ardent and insistent members of both the Pro- and the Anti-Palinistas of this nasty little circle jerk exhibit cultlike behavior, and there are rather more of the latter and then the former.Paulbots can look at Palin threads on major conservative sites now and chuckle, with no irony whatsoever, at the one-note hammerheads who pop in for every Palin thread and, oddly enough, seem rather scarce in the comment threads of posts that having nothing to do with Palin. Unless her name is mentioned.




Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 27, 2011 08:38 PM (R8y66)

227
T-Paw? Maybe for a tough-looking guy. But he looks likeFrank Perdue..or one of Frank's chickens.
By the way, women won't vote for a weak-lookingguy.
Plaintruth.

Posted by: Hard Truth at May 27, 2011 08:38 PM (GkYyh)

228 Ace, BZ on using the name "Palin" to build another traffic magnet.

However, you need to start billing SarahPac for all that space she's occupying in your head. Seriously, letting her live there rent free is just not the way.

Beat Army.


Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at May 27, 2011 08:38 PM (do977)

229 Dammit, I was thinking fake campaign= fake pregnancy.

Posted by: Tesch at May 27, 2011 08:43 PM (1qfCl)

230 131 You misunderstood my point. It threads about not-Sarah, we hear about how WARRIOR Sarah is our one true choice. Then when some us point out that some of the criticism against her are actually apt and not just Democrat talking points, suddenly the subject is changed into VICTIM Sarah. You can almost say that her victimhood is...unprecedented.

Well I don't care about her family, the ESTABLISHMENT, or how not-boring she is. I want to win, and after hearing about her movie I think she's become a liability. I'm hoping she stays put behind her awesomely-awesome Facebook account where she can rally the base. I hate to say it, but I think we need LOTS of luck to win the presidency, and that movie just seems like a terrible idea that the left will use during the general election. It's probably minor, but "SARAH KANE" doesn't fill me with confidence.


And you don't have to tell me that people hate me. I have an account at a humor message board (Something Awful.) I stay away from the political boards but moaning about "the regressives!" and dismissive, sarcastic remarks about "Bootstraps, heh." spill into threads I read. I really think the right need to start adapting to the new rules because whining about the media isn't cutting it anymore.

Posted by: Anony at May 27, 2011 08:47 PM (Yigvc)

231 I hope they all run and just duke it the hell out. I'm am tired to death of these knock-down drag-out blogfights during what is essentially the pitchers and catchers phase of Spring training.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 27, 2011 08:49 PM (R8y66)

232 #232 I think a lot of people on both sides of this have really been showing their ass (mea culpa mea culpa mea culpa for I too have sinned this sin yada yada yada).

I think a lot of it is due to the fact that, with JEF in the White House, the stakes are very high, and it unnerves a lot of people that we either are busy trying to destroy a strong candidate or are unwilling to cull out a weak one-depending on one's personal opinion of Palin.


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 27, 2011 08:53 PM (R8y66)

233 These Palin supporters are a little unhinged
Yeah, they creep me the hell out too.

Posted by: Heaven's Gate spokesman at May 27, 2011 08:54 PM (WRW1S)

234 "Posted by: lowandslow at May 27, 2011 07:54 PM"
I am crying my eyes out with laughter. I totally needed that!

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 08:55 PM (VxqUc)

235 Don't say "pitchers and catchers". 50% of these people are gay.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 27, 2011 08:56 PM (+sBB4)

236 lots of hatin goin on way up in here.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 27, 2011 08:57 PM (UrPTC)

237 Thanks to a commenter, who suggests I'm "onside" with Sullivan re: Palin, and since he says "onside," I must conclude he is a damn foreigner. Most likely British, though I will go as low as "Canadian."

Damn. That one will leave a sting.

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 27, 2011 08:59 PM (kUaEF)

238 T-Yawn has more to worry about than Palin's bus tour.

Posted by: Zombie Wm F Buckley at May 27, 2011 09:06 PM (Ew27I)

239 >>. I really think the right need to start adapting to the new rules because whining about the media isn't cutting it anymore.

Did I say a single bad thing about *you*?

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2011 09:12 PM (nj1bB)

240 "Posted by: Dien Cai Dau at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM "
Concerny thy name is troll

Posted by: Nora at May 27, 2011 09:13 PM (VxqUc)

241 Crap, I put that badly. I mean, we still need to point out the media's lies. I just think the right really needs to reexamine itself and its popularity.

I guess my panic button has been pushed recently. It feels like a reverse 2004 for us. I'm actually starting to have the heretical thought that Sarah brought down McCain, (even though the most likely explanation was that they were both doomed by Bush.)

Posted by: Anony at May 27, 2011 09:24 PM (Yigvc)

242 WeaselZippers mentioned Palin will be riding in Rolling Thunder in DC ... this weekend?
Gonna be an exciting time in DC then.
As i mentioned before, i think she's gonna announce later .. either late July or Early August..... waiting for the statute of limitations to un out July 26 for Frivy lawsuits.

Posted by: Cromagnum at May 27, 2011 09:43 PM (yx3Z/)

243 So all this time i have been reading this site since the dark days of the bullet dodge that darkened Hillary's campaign hopes and we discovered that Obama's Uncle liberated Auschwitz (who new his undle was Russian?), I was unter the impression that Ace was a manly man type, slightly unshaven, skipped showers on weekends, outdoorsy, liked his stead bloody rare, ate lots of bacon and chopped his own firewood from time to time. I read on Hot Air that ACE is actually a Pawlenty supporter...

If this is true, then i will have to revise my vision of ace to something more in line with the metrosexual nonentity that tried to stand in front of a bus today.


Posted by: Jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka at May 27, 2011 09:45 PM (bs3JI)

244 "I hope that the Democrats run Obama.
(via Instapundit)


I hope that the Democrats dont have any second thoughts about running Obama for re-election in 2012. Why would we want to run against a fresh face? In Obama we have a candidate with a record that includes:

20% under/unemployment.
$4.00 - $5.00 gasoline.
Skyrocketing food prices.
Dropping home prices with record number of people underwater in their mortgages.
Skyrocketing deficits measured in trillions, not billions.
ObamaCare that most people hate.
Promises of higher taxes.
Medicare going bankrupt.
Social security going bankrupt. This is a president who cant run on his record. Who wants another 4 years of what we have just gone through? Why would we want to see the Democrats put anyone else up?"

Posted by: Cromagnum at May 27, 2011 09:46 PM (yx3Z/)

245 If the bus tour takes it through Lexington and Concord (Massachusetts), I hope Michelle Bachmann hitches a ride.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read any of the comments at May 27, 2011 09:49 PM (pW2o8)

246 WHERE IS THE ANDREW SULLIVAN MILKY GLUTES SEX TAPE AND WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN LEAKED ON THE INTERNET?

you republicans are terrible at opposition research.

Posted by: Jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka at May 27, 2011 09:56 PM (bs3JI)

247 Yay me I guessed right. I couldn't remember the name of the nazi film but I guessed Sullivan said nazi propaganda.

Posted by: SamIam at May 27, 2011 10:01 PM (IOff/)

248 I was out fishing earlier..

So what did I miss?

Posted by: Dave C at May 27, 2011 10:12 PM (YPLGQ)

249 As i mentioned before, i think she's gonna announce later .. either late July or Early August..... waiting for the statute of limitations to un out July 26 for Frivy lawsuits.


You mean 'Statue'.

Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at May 27, 2011 10:16 PM (W4aXI)

250 Sarah decked out in leather for Rolling Thunder will change the minds of the haters. And Todd in leathers will change the minds of the gheys.

Posted by: Tom at May 27, 2011 10:21 PM (nQR0p)

251 This is going to be tough for others, if she runs. Her supporters take a
dim view of anyone who attacks her, but you have to attack an opponent,
right?
Nope, keep the debate on the issues. If you think her resume is thin, then support candidates like Rick Perry. Don't simply repeat the liberal talking points under the pretension of acknowledging reality. Look at how stupid the liberal supporters of Obama is. They went to the sewage depth to spin for Obama 's stupidity (eg. "intellectual stutterer", his brain is faster than his speech etc...). This is pure BS. We can easily turn the table on the libs wrt her resignation issue for example. It was the truth that the Alaska law would bankrupt her and impeded the business of the state of Alaska. Defend her when the libs brought it up. Turn the table on them about the corruption of the Obama administration. This is easily done. That 's how you win the "heart" of her supporters. The way to beat her is not to attack her, especially gratuitously. I think that is unproductive, if not outright stupid. She doesn't deserve that kind of attack. The way to beat her is take over her issues and take it to Obama/the left in the calm, but relentless way. Trump didn't attack Palin, but he got the strong early support. The base is tired of the timidity of our side wrt Obama and the left. Looks like some people on our side are more animated about trashing Palin than taking to Obama. Another example is Bibi. He took it to Obama in a calm and methodical fashion. Just mimic Bibi 's example, and you will beat Palin the primary.

For the sake of party unity, I can support someone like Perry, who had a real record and a real executive experience. I don't mind Palin/Ryan if she or he wins the primary. Tpaw is acceptable and I am willing to support him as well. I am tired of our side taking pot-shots at Palin. Rush acknowledged the unprecedented attack against her, and she is still living her life the way she chooses. That 's why the left is losing their mind. Electability was the main argument pushed in 2008 for McCain, and we knew how that went. The people pushing Huntsman are "dead" to me.

Posted by: LAI at May 27, 2011 10:23 PM (gDhR9)

252 Electability was the main argument pushed in 2008 for McCain, and we knew how that went. The people pushing Huntsman are "dead" to me.
Pushed by who? Not by anyone here, including those of us who recognize Palin's obvious unelectability.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 27, 2011 10:39 PM (WRW1S)

253 Most likely British, though I will go as low as "Canadian."
You put the Queen on your money, you're British.

Want some Vicodin, Hollowpoint?

Posted by: Dr Gregory House at May 27, 2011 10:42 PM (wPxqH)

254 Pushed by who? Not by anyone here, including those of us who recognize Palin's obvious unelectability.

By the Republican "establishment" and the media. McCain was the only candidate who could be competitive with Obama in that difficult year. That was a mantra. If you have a problem with Palin 's electability, then go with someone like Perry. Don't push someone like Daniels or Huntsman etc...

Posted by: LAI at May 27, 2011 10:42 PM (gDhR9)

255 I think "quasi" kinda gave it away.

But that's because I knew it, and want to showcase in some "original" (it's not) kind of way.

But I want to say Mr. Ace is smarter, much more accomplished, for every reason, and a simply more, and better, human being than I am.

I thank this blog for all it has given me.

Now I will repay it tenmilliontrilliongazillionfold:


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Palin/Cain 2012: 53% of the popular vote.
in/in.

in.

Posted by: fortcww at May 27, 2011 10:47 PM (wiJrP)

256 I guess drunk I can call this a moment of sobriety (who else but someone sober would disagree, and what do they really know about drunks compared to those drunks that have been drinking?) when I claim Ace of Spades HQ the greatest forum of any kind, ever.

Posted by: fortcww at May 27, 2011 11:03 PM (wiJrP)

257 Romney avoids the press. T-Yawn puts them to sleep. Palin is contractually forbidden to give interviews to everyone but FOX. Huntsman is accessible, telegenic and good at retail politics. Of course, the media likes him. They need something to talk about.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 27, 2011 11:13 PM (mHQ7T)

258 Newt's been laying low, too, because I think he's been paying off another mistress. When Bachmann declares her candidacy in Iowa, things will get interesting.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 27, 2011 11:14 PM (mHQ7T)

259 I think Im glad to be an independent now if this is how conservatives are treated by their own!

I like to think of it as part of the vetting process, as I haven't made my mind up as to who to support. And after reading this blog, I can make the following arguments with my liberal relatives:

Yeah, Palin is a moron, but at least she isn't trying to engineer a second holocaust.

Sure Romney is big government weasel, but at least he isn't using the ATF to smuggle arms to Mexican drug cartels.

So what if Pawlenty wears underoos and believes in global warming, at least he hasn't ordered the murder of Gaddafi's grand children.

So I say have at it, and may the best moron win.

Posted by: Working way too late at May 27, 2011 11:16 PM (JEvSn)

260 Did I read that she left a $12 Billion Surplus in Alaska?

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 12:20 AM (J+D+J)

261 More on Sullivan's analogy here. And it's a safe link.

[See what I did there?]

Posted by: andycanuck at May 28, 2011 12:42 AM (wPxqH)

262 Presented without comment

Posted by: curious at May 28, 2011 12:58 AM (k1rwm)

263 Did I read that she left a $12 Billion Surplus in Alaska?
Yes, you did! And she stuck it to the Big Evil Oil Producers in the form of a windfall profit tax to boot! Where do you think I got the idea?

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 28, 2011 01:03 AM (WRW1S)

264 Palin/Cain 2012: 53% of the popular vote.
Don't worry- everybody has a dyslexia moment. We understand that you really meant 35%, as that's a more realistic number.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 28, 2011 01:04 AM (WRW1S)

265 By the Republican "establishment" and the media. McCain was the only candidate who could be competitive with Obama in that difficult year. That was a mantra. If you have a problem with Palin 's electability, then go with someone like Perry. Don't push someone like Daniels or Huntsman etc...
The MSM pushed McCain because he had the best chance of beating Obama, but they hate Palin for the same reason? I'm confused.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 28, 2011 01:07 AM (WRW1S)

266 Mitt....lol

Posted by: curious at May 28, 2011 01:12 AM (k1rwm)

267 The MSM pushed McCain because he had the best chance of beating Obama, but they hate Palin for the same reason? I'm confused.Simple. They think McCain is probably one of the more liberal Rep candidate. They probably thought he was a squish with all this reaching-across the aile stuff and would depress the conservative base. Of course, they would vote against him and thought he would be a weak candidate against Obama. And also as an insurance policy in case they lost. Palin was an antidote to all this kind of thinking because she was a real conservative and she almost dragged McCain over the finish line. The liberal (ie "moderate") Reps who lived in the Beltway bubble was also scared of conservatives and would prefer a more liberal candidate. So they sold this "electability" issue to the base. Given Romey as the alternative, people fell for this argument. Not that hard to understand, honestly.

Posted by: LAI at May 28, 2011 01:35 AM (gDhR9)

268 Don't worry- everybody has a dyslexia moment. We understand that you really meant 35%, as that's a more realistic number.
Yes, we might as well give in. Ryan 's plan is tough, so just give up! Fighting the terrorists is hard. So simply be realistic and give up.

Posted by: LAI at May 28, 2011 01:36 AM (gDhR9)

269 So, what's a feller gotta do to get banned around here?

Posted by: rae4palin at May 28, 2011 01:44 AM (G4RRM)

270
Iteinerary June 29th, 2011
Palins America the Beautiful Tour
7:00a Stop at IHOP Whittlesburg Mississippi
7:07a Order coffee from transvestite Haitian Waitress, comment and how much you like her orange sherbert lipstick
7:11a Talk about our strength as a countryis another by product of conservative family values
7:14a show off Kid, make cute noises
7:17a Pass offering hat for gas
7:19a Remind everyone to fly flag and thank veterans
7:21a Travel to Dennis and Main and 4th, Repeat

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 02:11 AM (hqGB/)

271 Uh nope nora I am no troll
I AM an American conservative who refuses to be lumped in with rinos and donkeys
What exactly pray tell are YOU? ( besides a clueless moron)

Posted by: Dien Cai Dau at May 28, 2011 02:29 AM (LR/oU)

272
Run Baby Run! Rudy too!

Palin/Giuliani 2012

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"WOW just WOW!!
Ive seen this kind of hatred for Palin at Huffpo/kos etc but never expected to see it HERE?
I think Im glad to be an independent now if this is how conservatives are treated by their own!"


Posted by: Dien Cai Dau at May 27, 2011 08:20 PM

As Rush Limbaugh says, many Republicans are as frightened by Palin as the Left. She bucks the status quo will root out corruption in both parties if she wins as prez, just like she did in Alaska.

Also, she no gots an Ivy League degree like the know-it-alls who have driven the US to a over $14 Trillion deficit. Yet they call her the dumb one. Go figure.

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Posted by: davisbr at May 28, 2011 04:38 AM (zoeEh)

277
So why did she raise taxes and spending when she ran on frugal common sense self reliance small government?
Look at the alaska financials
Look at the Oil and Gas Journal analysis of the ACES tax

And then ask ehy did 25 out of 26 democrats vote for Palins ACES on Nov 16, 2007 but less than 1/2 of the Republicans (and those who voted for it changed their vote in the houst in March 2010 to repeal it)

So why then?



Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 05:24 AM (hLjzT)

278 " you have to attack an opponent, right?"
that opponent is barrack obama and not palin. So if a nominee want our support, they better not backstab her. Show us you're better at attacking obama, not how much better you are at attacking palin with the media

Posted by: oic at May 28, 2011 05:29 AM (pvmob)

279 palin have already answered those who claim her aces was a windfall profit tax on her facebook

Posted by: oic at May 28, 2011 05:44 AM (pvmob)

280 the aces was a total rewrite of the tax system. That be like accusing cain of supporting taxes because he support a 30% fair tax. Yes extra revenue came in but oil investment also increased.

Posted by: oic at May 28, 2011 05:50 AM (pvmob)

281
oic
The Oil and Gas Financial Journal: "Alaska's production tax is unique in that there is no bracketing. When progressivity occurs it applies to the very first dollar of value, as well as all subsequent dollars"
So a conservative Governor put in a greatly enhanced progressive tax at peak with a 93% tax bracket?
To "reduce" the size of government?
Also, who do you think pays the tax on corporations?
Voters or pieces of paper called "stock"?

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 05:58 AM (hLjzT)

282 Yes extra revenue came in but oil investment also increased.

No it hasn't, unless you consider one, that's one developmental well being drilled last year on state land. Where do you get your info?

Posted by: lowandslow at May 28, 2011 06:50 AM (GZitp)

283
So, the State has a $12 Billion Surplus, Exxon is making $40 Billion/Yr, and she's Championing Drilling in ANWR, is that about it?

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 09:22 AM (J+D+J)

284
"So, the State has a $12 Billion Surplus, Exxon is making $40 Billion/Yr, and she's Championing Drilling in ANWR, is that about it?"
Are you saying that conservative principles are best served by regulating situational income by confiscating it?
Is the risk reward system, the potential for losses borne by the state or by the oil company?
And what percentage of the income you stated was from their worldwide operations and their alaska operations?


Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 09:46 AM (hLjzT)

285 the bus tour should be interesting at best .

Posted by: bradky at May 28, 2011 10:04 AM (Bi33x)

286 Are you saying that the Owners of the oil, The Citizens of Alaska, don't have a right to sell it for the best price they can get?

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 10:10 AM (J+D+J)

287
"Are you saying that the Owners of the oil, The Citizens of Alaska, don't have a right to sell it for the best price they can get?"
Ahh, therein lies the problem. When does income confiscation become a right. And when does excessive confiscation lead to less government?
Where is it written that oil companies "have" to produce in Alaska?


Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 10:20 AM (hLjzT)

288
Nope, they don't "have to" drill in Alaska, but they seem to be drilling about as fast as the EPA will let them.
So, to review the bidding: Alaskans are now getting a good price for their oil, and have a $12 Billion Surplus, many of the old crooks/cronies that were giving the oil away are in jail, Exxon, and Conoco are still making good profits, and are drilling as fast as the Feds will let them, and the gal that made it all work is now running for President, a job, which she hopes, will allow her to open up ANWR, and Some other places for Drilling.
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 10:49 AM (J+D+J)

289
Rufus,
Where is income confiscation in the oil industry "different" from income confiscation of people who are making money?
Where are the court cases where "oil" was given away?
State lands dont need EPA clearance for drilling.
The Democrats in 2007 voted 97% for ACES, Republicans less than half and those that voted forit in Late 2007 started the process two years later to repeal it?
Aren't you suspicious of the fiscally prudent "democrats?" supporting a measure with97% also being described by Palin supporters as "conservative?"
but still, who pays the taxes in a corporation, the customers or some pieces of paper called "stock"


Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 10:58 AM (hLjzT)

290
Okay, your argument is, "Sarah was mean to the oil companies." Got it.
My argument seems to be "that she raised/collected the Royalties, and the Citizens of Alaska have $12 Billion in the bank, and the oil companies are still very profitable, and drilling.
To go any further becomes a theological argument about taxes, and laissez-faire capitalism. It's too nice of a day to talk religion. Later.

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 11:09 AM (J+D+J)

291
Rufus,
Is income confiscation a good or bad thing?
Who paid for the 12 billion in the bank?
voters? customers? Stock Certificates?


Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 11:20 AM (hLjzT)

292
Do the people of Alaska Not have a right to sell their oil to the highest bidder?
If I raise the price of my asset, have I "confiscated" your income?

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 11:49 AM (J+D+J)

293
Rufus
It wasn't a resale, they taxes were raised,
Obama's making the argument that th wealthy need to pay their share.

Where is the difference?

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 11:54 AM (hLjzT)

294
I guess the difference is: "Alaskans Own the Oil; Obama Doesn't Own your Labor."
Like I said, we're getting into theological grounds, here (and, I hate theology,) but I can't see any reason why Alaskans should get less for their oil than, say, Saudi Arabians gets for theirs.

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 12:03 PM (J+D+J)

295
"Saudi Arabians get"

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 12:04 PM (J+D+J)

296
So the justification is, in good times the "people" have the same "rights" to other "peoples" labor - as a brutal Islamic Dictatorship?
Explain how raising taxes creates job growth and reduction of the size and scope of government and spending...
And how progressive taxes at rates reaching 93% are conservative principles that founded this country.

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 12:21 PM (hLjzT)

297 Explain to me why selling your oil for less than it's worth makes you anything but a Dope.

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 12:25 PM (J+D+J)

298 Y'know what I remarked the other day in another thread about [to paraphrase] AOS being "the best place on the web" for political analysis and hash it out during the political season?
This wasn't it. Did everyone just take a stupid pill yesterday?
I repeat: WTF? and add: happened?
WHAT did you do with my AOSHQ?
...because this is obviously the bizarro world AOS.
Jeezus.

Posted by: davisbr at May 28, 2011 12:36 PM (zoeEh)

299
Rufus
Explain why the newly elected Tea Party member in the Alaskan House repealed the law over a month ago and the Democrats in the Senate are delaying a final vote as long as possible?

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 12:46 PM (hLjzT)

300
If you tell me that Sarah Palin isn't a strong "laissez-faire capitalist" conservative I'll agree with you. From the little I've seen about her she's a "moderate conservative" with Populist leanings. That's what I like about her.
Your mileage, obviously, may vary.

Posted by: Rufus at May 28, 2011 01:01 PM (J+D+J)

301
Rufus,

Yep
thanks for the discussion

Posted by: EricPWJohnson at May 28, 2011 01:09 PM (hLjzT)

302 Leni Riefenstahl. Got it in one.

Posted by: Dodd at May 28, 2011 05:13 PM (ipxVy)

303 "In Pennsylvania, Palin likely has pockets of support in the rural center
of the state and among tea party activists, said Jim Roddey, chairman
of Pittsburghs Allegheny County Republican Committee."
Overall, most of us feel she could be an important force in the party,
but I would hope she would not run for president, said Roddey, who
hasnt endorsed a 2012 primary candidate. I dont think she has the
intellectual capacity or the depth of knowledge to be president.
This is from the link on drudge. I pulled this out cause I thought it showed beautifully the kinds of problems that the republicans do not seem to realize that they have. I literally blinked when I read roddy's comment. I mean the comments is devastating and it's coming from a republican. why can't these folks just keep their mouths shut and let their party have a big ole primary season with a "more the merrier" theme so that all the issues come out and people can really show who they are.

I've been yelled at a lot lately cause I was a big palin rah rah girl but also a big reader of the site. I began to realize that politics is way more than just the candidate you like, who will fly in your state. I began to realize that you need a candidate with broader appeal than even your party base cause you need the independents and as many conservative dems as you can coax over. I think with a big primary with lots of folks, baring what people on the internet are calling a "split convention" which I think might mean two sides arguing over the nominee (please please correct me if this is wrong), then the right person will emerge.

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