On the Supposed Weakness of the GOP Field

If you've been watching the news lately, you may have noticed a narrative building. It looks a little something like this, and this. I understand the impulse behind such opinions - historically, incumbent presidents are very difficult to defeat, and none of the announced GOP candidates has thus far had a "wow" factor. Fair enough.

There is a major difference between boring and weak. Charles Krauthammer suggests in today's column that a lack of baggage and flash may be just what we need. He then lists the major candidates and in looking over them, there emerges a trend: political experience. Business success. Briefly:

Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House
Tim Pawlenty, former Governor
Mitt Romney, former Governor
Rick Santorum, former Senator
Herman Cain, successful businessman
Michelle Bachmann, former state senator and member of Congress
Haley Barbour, former current Governor
Gary Johnson, former Governor

There's a considerable amount of political and business experience there. Again, not exciting, but weak? It's an assertion without evidence that's only being made to further the "no one can beat The One" narrative. In other words, utter nonsense. If I were consulting one of the candidates, I'd take this head-on in a stump speech. Something along the lines of this:

Pundits in the media and the political class in Washington are pointing to my GOP opponents and I and they're calling us a weak field of candidates...they claim that none of us have what it takes to defeat President Obama. They are trying to make this election about us, but we can't allow them to do that. This election is about a simple set of questions, ones that have been asked before: are you better off now than you were four years ago? Have you had to tighten your budget? How much does it take to fill your car with gas?

These are simple questions, and I suspect for most Americans the answers are no, yes and way more than I can afford.

This election is not about who is the flashiest candidate, or who can attract the biggest crowds or make the prettiest speeches. Are my opponents and I the most exciting people to grace the political stage? Depends on who you ask. But are we weak? No.

You know what's weak? The dollar. The housing market. The job market. Wages. Our foreign policy.

Those are weak, and the policies of the current administration is what has weakened them.

If the administration wants to have a conversation about weakness, I'm all for it because the things that are weak right now matter more to the American people than what the media and pundits are focused on. What do you think Americans care more about? A candidate who 'wows' crowds with his words, or a candidate who wants to move past words and take action that will improve the economy? As we've seen, pretty words and charisma don't create jobs, they don't make the world instantly love us and they don't lower gas prices.

And some more along those lines. This election needs to focus on one thing: Obama's record. That's it.

Don't let the media set the narrative. We don't have a weak field. We have a weak president.

Ed. Note: changed two paragraphs, included the word "Business."

Posted by: Slublog at 02:47 PM



Comments

1 The problem is that, at least in the case of Romney and probably in the case of Daniels, they are not in it to defeat Obama. They are in it to defeat conservative candidates and then throw the general election.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 02:50 PM (ZBbts)

2 Hoping Herman Cain can become a part of the main conversation.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at April 22, 2011 02:51 PM (q7MjF)

3 This election needs to focus on one thing: Obama's record. That's it....We don't have a weak field. We have a weak president.

This. A thousand times over.

Even if we had to present it as the lesser of the two fuck-ups, do it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 02:52 PM (7dkEj)

4 Krauthammer is an asshole on wheels.

Posted by: maddogg at April 22, 2011 02:52 PM (OlN4e)

5 I posted on that earlier. He is doing the normal Fox/Krautman thing, pushing a RINO who's turn it is. Scrrew him.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 02:52 PM (M9Ie6)

6 If the election is about Obama, we have a very good chance of wining. If not, I don't like the odds.

The good news is elections are almost always a referendum on the incumbent. That doesn't mean you can nominate anyone but just someone plausible and reasonably non-threatening.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 02:53 PM (plesI)

7 In other words, Obama wanted to be prime minister of Indonesia when he was nine?

Posted by: Average Joe at April 22, 2011 02:53 PM (bN5ZU)

8 There's a former governor left off that list.

Not at all shocking, given the source and this site.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:54 PM (IuKAf)

9 Dear President Obama, 'its theeconomy stupid.' It stinks and any GOP candidate can beat you like a pinata over it. Pack your bags.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 02:54 PM (caQ0a)

10 IT'S NEWTS TURN!!!!!

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:55 PM (IuKAf)

11 When referring to Obama, generous use of "incompetent", "extreme partisan", and 'mismanagement" are always helpful.

Posted by: 141Driver at April 22, 2011 02:55 PM (DXa7u)

12 Also, it's sad that all people seem to talk about is who can win an election instead of who can fix this clusterfuck. Clearly Barry can't, and republican pols don't seem to have the stomach to do what it takes either.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at April 22, 2011 02:55 PM (q7MjF)

13 T-PAW! THE MONDALE OF THE 21ST CENTURY!

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:55 PM (IuKAf)

14 I am all for the Allen West ticket.

Posted by: momma at April 22, 2011 02:56 PM (penCf)

15 FOADIAF Rob. This list is people who have formally declared an interest in running. Nothing more.

Posted by: palerider at April 22, 2011 02:56 PM (dkExz)

16 GOP motto in 2012: Because our guy sucks just a bit less than your guy.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 02:56 PM (7dkEj)

17 ROMNEY! BECAUSE ONE SOCIALIST DESERVES ANOTHER!

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:56 PM (IuKAf)

18 Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:54 PM (IuKAf)

Oh grow the fuck up.

You know who else isn't on the list? Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump.




Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 02:56 PM (plesI)

19 Wile E. Coyote, former Supergenius

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 02:57 PM (uR5Zf)

20 All those names up there represent one thing: dickless crap weasels.

The next President better have suck a large set of balls that it is nearly impossible for him to sit down without resting the on the table. Plus he better have a dick so big, it is nearly impossible to get a close up shot of him without putting the camera to one side or the other.

Posted by: momma at April 22, 2011 02:58 PM (penCf)

21 9
Dear President Obama, 'its theeconomy stupid.' It stinks and any GOP
candidate can beat you like a pinata over it. Pack your bags.

Are you better of than you were 4 years ago? Or in text jargon,
R U BTTR THN U WR 4 YEARS AG?

That'll get the younger generation's attention - mass texts of that question. Hell, it's probably much cheaper than those mass mailings nobody reads.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 22, 2011 02:58 PM (9hSKh)

22 Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:54 PM (IuKAf)

Or Mitch Daniels.

Jebus, why the hell are Palin supporters always looking to take offense?

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 02:58 PM (plesI)

23 You know who this list helps?

Barack Obama.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at April 22, 2011 02:58 PM (uR5Zf)

24 We absolutely can NOT afford to have a boring candidate this time. The only thing Odipshit can do competently is campaign. Substance is vital, but in this election, so is the ability to reach out to the American people and make them feel good about voting for YOU, whoever "you" may be.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 22, 2011 02:58 PM (fuw6p)

25 CAIN...

Wait. What? Anyone else notice that he doesn't fit the list? Where's the political experience?

This list is people who have formally declared an interest in running. Nothing more.

There's no Trump. He's expressed interest, and is as qualified as Cain.


Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 02:59 PM (IuKAf)

26 Kraut said he didn't think the Shukabee was going to run.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 02:59 PM (M9Ie6)

27
I posted on that earlier. He is doing the normal Fox/Krautman thing, pushing a RINO who's turn it is. Scrrew him.

What an idiot that Krautburger is. The way he overlooks the Christine O'Donnell candidacy this early in the race just shows you what a RINO sellout turncoat traitor bastard looks like. Also, Ron Paul! And, don't touch social security!

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at April 22, 2011 02:59 PM (+lsX1)

28 But what about Sarah Palin?

Posted by: That crazy Palin guy at April 22, 2011 03:00 PM (jtShJ)

29 Perfect slogan for 2012:


CAIN IS ABLE

Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:00 PM (+cmP9)

30 RON PAUL!!!!1!21!!!

Posted by: That crazy Ron Paul guy at April 22, 2011 03:01 PM (jtShJ)

31 He also said Palin wasn't going to run. I have been saying that for months.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 03:01 PM (M9Ie6)

32 This thread is brought to you by Midol.

Midol. When you need to Reverse the Curse.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:01 PM (7dkEj)

33 Don't let the media set the narrative.

In other words: Don't let them do what they did to us last time, and give us McCain as a candidate.


Posted by: krakatoa at April 22, 2011 03:01 PM (ri69A)

34 Honey Badger 2012 - need bumper stickers with that.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:01 PM (caQ0a)

35 anyone mention this? Big day for shitheads:
"Former chief U.N. nuclear inspector Mohamed ElBaradei suggests in a new memoir that Bush administration officials should face international criminal investigation for the "shame of a needless war" in Iraq."
from Yahoo news...

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2011 03:02 PM (bJm7W)

36 #33, Obama is Aunt Flo?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:02 PM (caQ0a)

37 This election needs to focus on one thing: Obama's record. That's it.
In a hostile media environment, only a "baggage and flash" candidate would dare do that, because doing it is baggage. It stains the candidate as an outsider, instantly.
Kraut's just threatening to defend Obama against anyone who does it, and condemning the cracka-ass voters who want it. Which is like, no shit. That's his job.

Posted by: oblig. at April 22, 2011 03:03 PM (xvZW9)

38 Mohamed ElBaradei should face a firing squad for giving Iran nukes.

Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:03 PM (+cmP9)

39 Oh grow the fuck up.

Oh eat the nuts from my shit.

Anyone who lists Gingrich as a serious candidate deserves to be ridden out of town on a rail.

Jebus, why the hell are Palin supporters always looking to take offense?

Why the fuck are the AoS morons always so eager to crap on her? While taking Gingrich(!) seriously?

I mean, c'mon. If you're going to list him, list Palin.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 03:03 PM (IuKAf)

40 There are still some possibles out there who haven't declared yet. Rick Perry comes to mind. Not saying he'll win or that he's not a RINO, just saying he's probably going to run.

I'm a little annoyed that the MFM has already picked our starting line-up.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (LFiVW)

41 37 Well yes, that's a great way to look at him.

I was referring more to the overall poutiness (is that a word??) of this thread.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (7dkEj)

42 Cain/West 2012

Cain/Bolton 2012

West/Bolton 2012


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM48)

43 So Cain and Bachmann are the only ones there with an actual job?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (uR5Zf)

44 Oh grow the fuck up.You know who else isn't on the list? Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee and Donald Trump. Or Me! And I will be at the Des Moines Piggy Wiggly this week promoting my candidacy and collecting scrap metal. But mainly collecting scrap metal.

Posted by: Alan Keyes at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (OWjjx)

45 The Krautman for prez. Of course the Wanker media types will surely mock his disability.Since leftists are such powerful examples ofkindness and tolerance.

Posted by: Abolish the Teacher's Union at April 22, 2011 03:05 PM (0fzsA)

46 Kraut and Gingrich are very alike in a lot of ways. Very educated, very snobby, and very concerned that they never get dirty.

Krauthammer is the more athletic of the two.

Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:05 PM (+cmP9)

47 So Huckabee hasn't announced an exploratory committee? Thank God.

Posted by: Penfold at April 22, 2011 03:06 PM (1PeEC)

48 That crazy Palin guy
Ah, the charming habit of AoS morons to sublimate their gynophobia into attacking the messenger.

Come to think of it -- you folks are taking Krauthammer seriously?! Why? Talk about someone invested in the status quo...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 03:06 PM (IuKAf)

49 Well, this little news nugget should help us (if we don't all starve to death first): just heard gas may reach $6.00/gal. by summer.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2011 03:06 PM (UOM48)

50 Can we get a post about this press conference please?

Joanne Kloppenburg’s Really Bad Poker Tell: She KNOWS She Didn’t Win Election

Check out that pregnant pause at 1:33 in. This re-count is a sham.

Posted by: momma at April 22, 2011 03:06 PM (penCf)

51 Hoping Herman Cain can become a part of the main conversation.
Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at April 22, 2011 02:51 PM (q7MjF)

Whoa! Hold the pepperoni!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:06 PM (mHQ7T)

52 I'm a little annoyed that the MFM has already picked our starting line-up.

And yet you're letting them do it.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 22, 2011 03:07 PM (IuKAf)

53 Krauthammer is the more athletic of the two.

Okay now see, people are asking why I just burst out laughing.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:07 PM (7dkEj)

54 Bob Dole says, "3rd look at Bob Dole!"

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2011 03:07 PM (plesI)

55 39
Mohamed ElBaradei should face a firing squad for giving Iran nukes.

Alas, he'll probably end up in a high position in the new Islamist gov't of Egypt, if not its Head of State.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 22, 2011 03:07 PM (9hSKh)

56 So Cain and Bachmann are the only ones there with an actual job?
Uh, Barbour is still governor. Kraut got it wrong. His 2nd term does not expire till November 2011, IIRC.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (OWjjx)

57 50:

Yeah, we should all save our ballot stubs from the last election ever held in the former United States.

Might be worth something a can of beans someday.

Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (+cmP9)

58 He is doing the normal Fox/Krautman thing, pushing a RINO who's turn it is.

Who is not a RINO in that line-up? Romney? Gingrich? Barbour? Huckabee? Santorum?

Kraut's whole list sucks.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (mHQ7T)

59 anyone besides me and Honey Badger like Rick Perry from Texas? I was already thinking of him as a possible pres candidate in 2004

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (bJm7W)

60 Leaving out Palin there aren't ya? She will win. Shmuckabee is not running I believe.
BTW did anyone see Beck's demolishing of him on his radio show? It was AWESOME.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (XNkW5)

61 42, I can see that. There does seem to be more drama queen thanin Jane Austen or even Lost in Austen in this thread. I await someone to have the vapours.
Speaking of poutiness, ie the biting of the lips. This thread. Seems almost as it Jack Streuf has found too much time on his pudgy hands and has decided to haunt this place.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:09 PM (caQ0a)

62 Jeez Rob, was just making a joke, lighten up man. I actually love me some fuckin Palin and hope she runs

Posted by: muguwara at April 22, 2011 03:09 PM (jtShJ)

63 Uh, Barbour is still governor. Kraut got it wrong. His 2nd term does not expire till November 2011, IIRC.

Whoops. Fixed that. Thanks.

Posted by: Slublog at April 22, 2011 03:09 PM (0nqdj)

64 Huntsman not on the list either.
And other than Cain, no one has formerly declared yet. Well, except for maybe Alan Keyes.............

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:09 PM (OWjjx)

65 And yet you're letting them do it.

I'm not letting them do shit.


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:10 PM (LFiVW)

66 54:

Gingrich is only running because he knows there are free Danish at all the meetings.

Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:10 PM (+cmP9)

67 Huckabee will run, Huckabee will win - the primary.

Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at April 22, 2011 03:10 PM (Mq+I9)

68
Uh, Barbour is still governor. Kraut got it wrong. His 2nd term does not expire till November 2011, IIRC.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (OWjjx)
Will his Inauguration be sponsered by Cracker Barrel?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:10 PM (uR5Zf)

69 And we're taking Krauthammer's opinion about candidates why?

OCT 3, 2008: Hail Mary vs Cool Barry

"[Obama]'s got both a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament. That will likely be enough to make him president."

"First-class intellect"? Oy...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 22, 2011 03:11 PM (NITzp)

70 62 Well you know it's dramarama when the broads on the blogs are saying lighten up.

Speaking of blogs, I just clicked yours. I liked it from the quick skim I did and bookmarked it!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:11 PM (7dkEj)

71 food fight.

Posted by: willow at April 22, 2011 03:11 PM (h+qn8)

72 Who is not a RINO in that line-up? Romney? Gingrich? Barbour? Huckabee? Santorum?
Everyone is a RINO!

Posted by: The Commentor Who Calls Everyone and Everything a RINO at April 22, 2011 03:11 PM (OWjjx)

73 No man named Haley will ever be President.




Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:11 PM (+cmP9)

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (LFiVW)

75 Kratos, you mean El Baradei will suffer the Obama fate? Appear to be the leader, but find the Muslim Brotherhood giving him a proctological exam?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (caQ0a)

76 I know that when I need advice on whom to nominate, I always ask a former Mondale staffer who supports universal confiscation of firearms.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (ZBbts)

77 Here is Larry Sabato's 2012 map. He basically takes the 2008 map and makes it a little red. He has the cojones to call indiana and NC toss ups. DOnt make me laugh. He also has Texas as "likely" GOP instead of "solid" GOP. I want what he is smoking.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (XNkW5)

78 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:09 PM (OWjjx)

Huntsman needs to be destroyed ASAP.

He's just a war record and an asshole daughter away from being the second coming of John McCain.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (plesI)

79 Kraut can turn a pretty phrase, though. I give him high marks for: "Romney is Secretariat at Belmont, but ridden by Minnesota Fats." Good stuff.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (mHQ7T)

80 :OT: Drudge has a video of a couple of black girls attacking and trying to
kill a white girl at a McD. She was on the ground and they were
stomping on her head. Where is the "racist " cheering Reichstag Media now?

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (V+/pV)

81 OT but here's some good news..

NAACP official convicted of voter fraud

In Tunica, Mississippi, ten guilty verdicts of voter fraud were returned yesterday against NAACP officer Lessadolla Sowers. She was sentenced to five years for each count without the possibility of parole and will serve the terms concurrently. Sowers manipulated the absentee ballot process in the 2007 election. Absentee ballots in Mississippi are notoriously subject to voter fraud.

http://tinyurl.com/43egwar

Posted by: Samir Patel, Spelling Bee Champion, Age 6 at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (JKe0g)

82
Kraut said he didn't think the Shukabee was going to run.



Mitt is in already. It's just a matter of time before Fuckabee announces. He won't be serious, except to piss all over Mitt's campaign.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (7YzRS)

83 Who is not a RINO in that line-up? Romney? Gingrich? Barbour? Huckabee? Santorum?



Kraut's whole list sucks.



Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (mHQ7T)
Barbour is not really a RINO but there have been some rumors on stuff. Not sure on Santorum, haven't done any research and don't know much about him. But cleary Krautass was pushing Romney.That is a sure fire mandate for 4 more years of JEF.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (M9Ie6)

84 Bob Dole says, "3rd look at Bob Dole!"

I'm going to sleep, Bob. Call the doctor.

Posted by: Liddy Dole at April 22, 2011 03:14 PM (4Kl5M)

85 He also has Texas as "likely" GOP instead of "solid" GOP. I want what he is smoking.

A lot of pundits have that same delusion about Texas being in play. More narrative-setting and wish-casting.

Posted by: Slublog at April 22, 2011 03:14 PM (0nqdj)

86 dang it.. sockoff

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 22, 2011 03:14 PM (JKe0g)

87 Where are all the Fred Karger fans complaining he was left off the list?

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:14 PM (plesI)

88 Gingrich is only running because he knows there are free Danish at all the meetings.Will his Inauguration be sponsered by Cracker Barrel?

Putting both of you on probation as now I have the gigglefits can't stop.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:14 PM (7dkEj)

89 60
anyone besides me and Honey Badger like Rick Perry from Texas? I was
already thinking of him as a possible pres candidate in 2004

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (bJm7W)

Bachmann>Perry>Romney>Huntsman>Gingrich>Mohammed elBaredei>Huckabee

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:15 PM (uR5Zf)

90 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048 Not racist?

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 03:15 PM (V+/pV)

91 Also throw in there how Obama sucks cock.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 22, 2011 03:15 PM (Mq8kx)

92 Lacey, thanks! Be warned the Erasurevideo is not safe for mental health. Though it does symbolise the whole Democrat Party that does support Obama.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:16 PM (caQ0a)

93 I liked Newt up until him and Pelosi sat together for Mother Gaia.
Even that aside, I'm trying to imagine the state of America on the parallel Earth where Newt beats Obama in 2012.

Posted by: Canadian Infidel at April 22, 2011 03:16 PM (GKQDR)

94 West/Bolton 2012
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM4
+1000

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:16 PM (NtXW4)

95 throws ball into the ring.
I want Mike Pence to run and win.

Posted by: willow at April 22, 2011 03:17 PM (h+qn8)

96 Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 03:13 PM (V+/pV)
I just saw that. It's one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. They kicked and punched her, dragged her across the floor, kicked and punched some more all the while all the "men" stood around and did nothing. She finally collapsed by the trash can and began having a seizure from the beating. Fucking animals.

Posted by: jewells45 at April 22, 2011 03:17 PM (Z71Vg)

97 Someone please send this memo to the listed candidates, with exception of Bachman and Cain ... tell them it's OK to attack Obama and attack him hard. His record is beyond atrocious at this point and getting worse, but most of the listed field is tepid at best in their criticisms. That's got to change.

Posted by: thirteen28 at April 22, 2011 03:17 PM (AbmsP)

98 76
Kratos, you mean El Baradei will suffer the Obama fate? Appear to be
the leader, but find the Muslim Brotherhood giving him a proctological
exam?

I wasn't thinking *exactly* that, but maybe you're right. I don't know that much about El Baradei personally; It could be that Baradei has a kinder public face, but is as ruthless as an Assad or Ahmedinejad in private.

He's bad news either way, and his willful blindness towards Iranian nuclear ambitions have already caused incalculable harm.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 22, 2011 03:18 PM (9hSKh)

99 Mitt is in already. It's just a matter of time before Fuckabee announces. He won't be serious, except to piss all over Mitt's campaign.
------------------------
I don't think he will if Palin runs because he knows he would split the vote

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:18 PM (XNkW5)

100 He's just a war record and an asshole daughter away from being the second coming of John McCain.
I know nothing about Huntsman. I was just pointing out another omission of potential candidates along with Palin, Trump, Christie, Paul and, of course, Alan Keyes.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:18 PM (OWjjx)

101 A lot of pundits have that same delusion about Texas being in play.





Because they think Austin is Texas.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (7YzRS)

102 If Huckabee wins, he'll be the first President sworn in at the Daytona 500 during a yellow flag.


Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (+cmP9)

103 Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 03:15 PM (V+/pV)

holy crap

Posted by: weew at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (mS1ai)

104 I liked Newt up until him and Pelosi sat together for Mother Gaia.

So you're OK with sending a man to prison for shooting a man in the process of raping his wife, on the grounds that he got in a fight with his brother on his 18th birthday? Newt Gingrich pushed the Lautenberg Amendment into law.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (ZBbts)

105 93 Well I bookmarked it specifically because of that link ; )

I was actually listening to some Erasure at the time on my iTunes. I didn't want to take shit from the moron clan but I guess I've just now outed myself.

No going back now. At least I have a vag. That lessens the blow a bit.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (7dkEj)

106 You're just beinf mean...or something .

Posted by: JayBee at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (dvs04)

107 West/Bolton 2012
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM4
+1000
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:16 PM (NtXW4)
Ayup, it doesn't get much better than that.

Posted by: ErikW at April 22, 2011 03:20 PM (//Ddm)

108 Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:15 PM (uR5Zf)



No love for Governor Hair?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:20 PM (LFiVW)

109 And what Kraut misses, as he sits in his Ivory Tower inside the Beltway... is that a large part of the Electorate know that these folks, with their vast political experience (especialy Newt) ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!
Are we expected once more, to do what I call the Peter Plus Principle??? Where we not only promote them to their level of incompetence, but then vote for them to run OUR LIVES????
Sarah got a lot of support last election simply because she WAS an outsider... heck, even Obama ran as an Outsider (he was part of the Chicago machine, not the Washington machine)...
People are looking at Trump for the same reason.... as silly and flawed and RINOish as he is, he IS NOT a Washington or Political Insider...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:20 PM (NtXW4)

110 OT - lol, just got this link with the subject line: "God has a sense of humour"

Mega-Heartache: Michelle Obama’s Earth Day Event Cancelled…

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 22, 2011 03:20 PM (9hSKh)

111 He's just a war record and an asshole daughter away from being the second coming of John McCain.
Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:12 PM (plesI)

I could kind of understand why John McCain is so despised by the base given McCain-Feingold, his first marriage, amnesty and the Gang of Fourteen. But he looked better than all the other losers running with him in 2008. Too bad he was still a weak candidate in the general. The surge helped him win the primary.

But it's hard to see how Jon Huntsman is guilty by association for having co-chaired John McCain's campaign. Actually, he is already assembling a strong campaign team, which makes it look like he's planning a competitive run for the nomination and knows how to get it. That's usually how the GOP usually nominates "the next in line." Except, to the public, Huntsman is a fresh face who has been identified by the Obama campaign as a tough rival.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (mHQ7T)

112 NAACP official convicted of voter fraud

I'm betting Ogabe pardons her if it looks like he's going down in flames on election night.

5 years ain't nearly enough though. The penalty for vote fraud needs to be so harsh nobody would ever consider it. Mailmen are robbed very very infrequently, even in the worst crime ridden ghettos, because the perps know jacking a mailman means doing a full 20 at club fed

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (cgRNP)

113 Gingrich's inauguration speech would go on until the next election cycle.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (uR5Zf)

114 West/Bolton 2012



Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2011 03:04 PM (UOM4
+1000
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:16 PM (NtXW4)
Ayup, it doesn't get much better than that.
So let it be written, so let it be done!


Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (+cmP9)

115 It's one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen
Agreed.

but a couple of things. was it a chick? I read it was a tranny that went into the women's restroom w/out the proper equipment IYKWIM.

not that it matters. those women were vicious. and the people that stood around and did nothing (or worse: filmed it) should also be prosecuted....for a 'hate' crime, no?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (7dkEj)

116 Notice too, how leftists worship their candidates no matter how many imperfections, baggage and flaws they have. One thing the right doesn’t do. We are so caught up in electing Jesus Christ himself, we lose the practical advantage that blind faith leftists have over us.
It's sad, but true. We must stand behind our imperfect nominee -(Made more imperfect by thenever abating drum beat of negativity pushed by the unprofessional pro-democrat MSM)because the most important objective on EARTH is to rid this nation of the corrupt influence of Obama. Our low level socialist community organizer ~agitator in chief.

Posted by: Abolish the Teacher's Union at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (0fzsA)

117 No love for Governor Hair?


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:20 PM (LFiVW)
I liked his brother Perry Rick better.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:22 PM (uR5Zf)

118 Lacey, LOLOL. Erasure had some good stuff, but that cover with video of Take A Chance on Me. Good gosh! Ack!

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:22 PM (caQ0a)

119 That list is weak.. ooffaahh..

Posted by: wildwood at April 22, 2011 03:22 PM (VSWPU)

120 I know nothing about Huntsman. I was just pointing out another omission of potential candidates along with Palin, Trump, Christie, Paul and, of course, Alan Keyes.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:18 PM (OWjjx)

Mitt Romney hates Huntsman's guts, which is all I need to know about him. He's my favorite now.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:22 PM (mHQ7T)

121 A bunch of love letters from Huntsman to Obama were just leaked a few days ago, right?

Skimmed some on Drudge I think. Had everything but little hearts drawn over the i's.


Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:23 PM (+cmP9)

122 I liked his brother Perry Rick better.


Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:22 PM (uR5Zf)

Speaking of which.....did you pray for rain today?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (LFiVW)

123 Much of the discontent with the current field seems to stem from those of us on the RightoSphere immersing ourselves in the daily demolition of Obama on the internets. We see hilarious and substantive takedowns of Obama each and every day. Then some want to see those same kinds of takedowns directed at Obama pushed by our political field. It isn't a reasonable expectation to think that a Romney or Pawlenty can approach Obama in the manner of an ace or Iowahawk.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (t4J/m)

124 Here is Larry Sabato's 2012 map
And it is completely worthless. Anyone that clarvoyent should stop political predicting and start winning lotteries. There is over 18 months to go before November 2012, plenty of time for all of us to hate whoever gets the GOP Nomination.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (OWjjx)

125 but a couple of things. was it a chick? I read it was a tranny that went into the women's restroom w/out the proper equipment IYKWIM.
I didnt see that in the story. Where did you see it?

Posted by: jewells45 at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (Z71Vg)

126 #81

McDonalds admits it was in Baltimore. Heads will roll! I doubt the Baltimore poleece will do anything. Baltimore is a snake pit of PC.

Posted by: Kemp at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (JpFM9)

127 Notice too, how leftists worship their candidates no matter how many imperfections, baggage and flaws they have.

That's not a good thing. It made them run Dukakis, Kerry and Mondale. Obama would have lost had it not been for September 15, 2008.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (mHQ7T)

128 So, what if Obumbles gets primaried?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:25 PM (LFiVW)

129 Speaking of which.....did you pray for rain today?


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (LFiVW)
Forgot to. Me bad..btw - we never get rain out here.
We're like turkeys when it does arrive - we look up in wonder and drown.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:26 PM (uR5Zf)

130 But it's hard to see how Jon Huntsman is guilty by association for having co-chaired John McCain's campaign.

Aren't you overlooking a much worse "guilt by association?"

http://tinyurl.com/p3pc25

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:26 PM (ZBbts)

131 Forgot to. Me bad..btw - we never get rain out here.
We're like turkeys when it does arrive - we look up in wonder and drown.


So I take it you guys aren't on fire?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:26 PM (LFiVW)

132 Kratos, Obama and now El Baradei trade favours and shill for money to get that seat. So while they think they have the power, they have so many IOUs they become beholden to special interest groups. Then it comes down to ticking off one group to keep favour with another, or do like Obama vote present and do nothing. In other words, an abject failure to lead.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:27 PM (caQ0a)

133 asshat #3:
"What’s interesting about you and your candidacy, I think that some people think it’s some sort of joke or publicity stunt. But even at dinner last night I was sitting with my friends, and it’s like the more people talk about it the more interested they are and the more convinced they are that you could be a nominee for the Republican Party. What I’m looking for is someone who’s not going to take bullshit, not going to let the media run them around, and who is going to give it back to Obama. And you seem to be the only person who’s really doing it right now."
Meggie Mac interviewing Trump in the Daily Beast

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2011 03:27 PM (bJm7W)

134 125

Here is Larry Sabato's 2012 map


Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:24 PM (OWjjx)
I guess that shithead completely ignored that little election back in November

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:27 PM (uR5Zf)

135 Putting both of you on probation as now I have the gigglefits can't stop
At least someone is having fun.
I know nothing about Huntsman
I know he worked for OWaffle. Dead on arrival for me.
As a resident Rino/ Monty disciple ( Doomer), I'm actually much more optimistic than most here it seems as far as 2012 goes. I think TPaw,or even Mittens can knock off OWaffle relatively comfortably.
That said, I'd love someone with more sizzle/ reliably conservative. I'm not worried about boring though. I'm concerned with the ability to first campaign, and then govern with the economic crisis we face in mind. The balls factor, if you will.
I still think a wild card who we really aren't focused on will be our nominee. The tea party spirit will be captured, just a matter of who decides to grab it.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at April 22, 2011 03:28 PM (dWPyO)

136 So, what if Obumbles gets primaried?
Whoever does it gets crushed.It won't be a Hillary or even a Dean. At best, it may be a Finegold but more likely than not it will be a real crackpot (and yes, I am looking at you, Dennis Kuchinich). More importantly, it helps Obama. He has an excuse to run a gazillion dollars of ads with no one asking why and makes him look more "moderate" when compared to the nut case running against him in the primary (again, Dennis, I am looking at you).

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:28 PM (OWjjx)

137 Mitt Romney hates Huntsman's guts, which is all I need to know about him. He's my favorite now.

Mao hated Brezhnev. Brezhnev is my hero.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:28 PM (ZBbts)

138 So, what if Obumbles gets primaried?
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:25 PM (LFiVW)
The Democrat Party needs a serious candidate and that candidate is me!

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 22, 2011 03:28 PM (//Ddm)

139 5 I posted on that earlier. He is doing the normal Fox/Krautman thing, pushing a RINO who's turn it is. Scrrew him.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 02:52 PM (M9Ie6)

right on brother!

Posted by: Spirit of the Honey Badger at April 22, 2011 03:29 PM (m6OUa)

140 But it's hard to see how Jon Huntsman is guilty by association for
having co-chaired John McCain's campaign. Actually, he is already
assembling a strong campaign team, which makes it look like he's
planning a competitive run for the nomination and knows how to get it.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:21 PM (mHQ7T)

"You are a remarkable leader"
John Huntsman to President Barack Obama
August 16, 2009

Huntsman served as Obama's ambassador to China.

Huntsman is managed by the same guy who ran McCain's campaign after saying he only works for Democrats.

Huntsman thinks the so-called "stimulus" should have been bigger.

It's not guilt by association, it's just guilt.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:29 PM (plesI)

141 and, of course, Alan Keyes.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:18 PM (OWjjx)
Keyes/ Greinke 2012???
Tulo Sec Def?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at April 22, 2011 03:30 PM (dWPyO)

142 A bunch of love letters from Huntsman to Obama were just leaked a few days ago, right?

It will appeal to independents who see nothing wrong in answering the call to serve your country when the CINC asks it of you, who think Republicans are racist, and who expect you to be polite to your boss. I think Huntsman's team leaked those before he returns to the US, and it's about as incriminating as SNL's Fred Armisen's unfunny jokes about Obama being too cool for real parody. If this was Charlie Crist against Marco Rubio, that would be a different story. But Republicans do not have a better candidate than Jon Huntsman.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:30 PM (mHQ7T)

143 DrewM, Huntsman is that dog that does not hunt in this field.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:31 PM (caQ0a)

144 on pajamasmedia, jewells.

someone dissected the conversation (I couldn't hear anything over the screaming). anyway, the girls doing the beat-down say something like, 'that's some fucked-up shit' and the victim says 'where am I supposed to go?' and the girls continue to call her a 'sick bitch'.

some of the guys on the video are saying 'that's a dude'.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:31 PM (7dkEj)

145 Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:29 PM (plesI)
Thank You. Dead on arrival.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at April 22, 2011 03:31 PM (dWPyO)

146 So I take it you guys aren't on fire?


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:26 PM (LFiVW)
Shit, there's nothing to burn. A couple of years ago, we got less than 3 inches of rain over 18 months, and nobody cared.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:31 PM (uR5Zf)

147 Thanks, Drew. Knew I hadn't dreamed that.


Posted by: sifty at April 22, 2011 03:32 PM (+cmP9)

148 Sugar coat analysis by K-hammer:

Donald Trump: He’s not a candidate, he’s a spectacle. He’s also not a
conservative. With a wink and a smile, Muhammad Ali showed that
self-promoting obnoxiousness could be charming. Trump shows that it can
be merely vulgar. A provocateur and a clown, the Republicans’ Al
Sharpton. The Lions have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl.
Ouch, but true.

Posted by: sTevo at April 22, 2011 03:32 PM (VMcEw)

149 thanks lacey

Posted by: jewells45 at April 22, 2011 03:33 PM (Z71Vg)

150 Notice too, how leftists worship their candidates no matter how many
imperfections, baggage and flaws they have. One thing the right doesn’t
do.

Have you interacted with some Ron Paul and Palin fanatics?

Posted by: lowandslow at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (GZitp)

151 Shit, there's nothing to burn. A couple of years ago, we got less than 3 inches of rain over 18 months, and nobody cared.


Well, they're sounding the doomsday sirens around here.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (LFiVW)

152 61
Leaving out Palin there aren't ya? She will win. Shmuckabee is not running I believe.
BTW did anyone see Beck's demolishing of him on his radio show? It was AWESOME.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:08 PM (XNkW5)

Iheard it and it was awesome!

Posted by: Spirit of the Honey Badger at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (m6OUa)

153 "...and who is going to give it back to Obama. And you seem to be the only person who’s really doing it right now."

Meggie Mac interviewing Trump in the Daily Beast

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2011 03:27 PM

Really? Has she been asleep for the last 2+ fucking years? Trump is the ONLY person giving it back to Obama?

What a MF-ing ignorant dunce she is.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (NITzp)

154 I guess that shithead completely ignored that little election back in November
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The thing about sabato too is he predicted 30 seat gains in the house for reps in 2008. What. A . Boob.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (XNkW5)

155 81
:OT: Drudge has a video of a couple of black girls attacking and trying to
kill a white girl at a McD. She was on the ground and they were
stomping on her head. Where is the "racist " cheering Reichstag Media now?

The two girls were understandably fighting back against an oppressor.

Racist.

Posted by: Noam Chompsky at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (cv5Iw)

156 You know.... if Trump REALLY wants to help this country... he SHOULD get in the Primaries as a Presidential Candidate, AS a DEMOCRAT!
Blue Dogs would come out in droves for him... and how could Obama NOT go to a Primary Debate?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:35 PM (NtXW4)

157 150 and I hate piling-0n to that poor person being beat-down but the "seizure"....um I don't know about that.

something with that just seemed to be a little off the first time I watched that video.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:36 PM (7dkEj)

158 I want to see hucks latest reaction to beck. He will be whining I'm sure!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at April 22, 2011 03:36 PM (XNkW5)

159 Huntsman served as Obama's ambassador to China.

So because George Washington served in the British army in service of his country pre-revolution, you wouldn't support George Washington for President? Huntsman served his country in a prominent ambasadorship. He has great credentials and did a great job for one of the most conservative states in the country. I think you need a better reason not to vote for him.

Huntsman thinks the so-called "stimulus" should have been bigger.

Huntsman got a B from the Cato Institute, because they liked his tax policy (cutting) but disapproved of his increasing spending by 10%. However, he did wonders for tourism in Utah.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:36 PM (mHQ7T)

160 Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:19 PM (ZBbts)
I don't know about the specific cases you were mentioning but I did look up the Lautenberg Ammendment - the Domestic Violence Offender gun ban.
I liked Newt, once upon a time.That's long past.It doesn't matter.I can't ever see him winning - against anyone - living or dead.

Posted by: Canadian Infidel at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (GKQDR)

161 Whoever does it gets crushed.It won't be a Hillary or even a Dean. At
best, it may be a Finegold but more likely than not it will be a real
crackpot (and yes, I am looking at you, Dennis Kuchinich). More
importantly, it helps Obama. He has an excuse to run a gazillion dollars
of ads with no one asking why and makes him look more "moderate" when
compared to the nut case running against him in the primary (again,
Dennis, I am looking at you).


A few months ago, I would've bet money that Hillary was gonna primary him. Either the DNC has paid her off and/or it's become apparent to her that she ruined her chances by accepting the SOS job. If she had stayed outside of the administration, she could've pointed her boney finger at Obie and screeched about what a fuck up he is. Now, however, she's just part of the problem.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (LFiVW)

162 I want boring- I want to make this a referendum on Obama. Eviction of the current occupant is goal #1,2,3 and 4 .
So you need the the most solid, drab, steady guy with as little baggage as possible for the task.
Tim Pawlenty is tailor made to do this job.

Posted by: jjshaka at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (4Bb/Y)

163 Have you interacted with some Ron Paul and Palin fanatics?

Posted by: lowandslow at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM

Don't forget the anti-Palin fanatics. The ones who see absolutely no good, but all bad in Palin.

And let's not forget the "electability" brigade on the Right. Those who are fanatical about calling themselves "realists" and everyone else "cultists" and "purists" if they don't agree to support the latest "electable" RINO of choice.

So, yeah, the Right does it too.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (NITzp)

164 Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:31 PM (7dkEj)
Hmmm... is it a Hate Crime if One Protected Minority, beats up Another Protected Minority?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:38 PM (NtXW4)

165 152
Shit, there's nothing to burn. A couple of years ago, we got less than 3 inches of rain over 18 months, and nobody cared.


Well, they're sounding the doomsday sirens around here.


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:34 PM (LFiVW)
I lived in Austin long enough to have lived through a number of cycles like this.I rmember some summers where downtown was literally black with crickets.
I'll be there on Monday. The best place to look is the Pedernales water level at Hwy 71 and Paleface Ranch.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:39 PM (uR5Zf)

166 The first candidate to say Obama sucks cock has my vote.

except if it's Fuckabee.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 22, 2011 03:40 PM (Mq8kx)

167 Hmmm... is it a Hate Crime if One Protected Minority, beats up Another Protected Minority?

Oh I'm not touching that one with a 1o-ft poll!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:40 PM (7dkEj)

168 Posted by: jjshaka at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (4Bb/Y)
Except that he needs to be able to ATTACK....
And I still think the best chance the GOP has, is an outsider.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 22, 2011 03:40 PM (NtXW4)

169 So Toonces courts Hollywood last night to a fawning Will Ferrell, Tom Hanks, etc.
Obama was introduced by DreamWorks Animation SKG’s chief executive Jeffrey Katzenberg, who noted that about three years ago, most “everyone in this room embarked on a great journey and adventure with you,” he said, directing his remarks to the president. “I think we all would agree that nobody has ever inherited a set of challenges — and nobody I think could possibly be better in tackling them. So we all feel very lucky to have you as our president for four more years,” Katzenberg added to much applause.
All of these useless idiots can FOAD. Unbelievable. Toonces also remarked about how the economy is recovering......huh?

Posted by: Cheri at April 22, 2011 03:40 PM (oiNtH)

170 Speaking of John Weaver, Huntsman's campaign manager, he is the guy who urged McCain to make attacks on the NRA the centerpiece of his campaign. This was in 2000, at the height of the gun control craze, mere months before the Smith and Wesson boycott (for their cutting an anti-gun deal with the Clinton regime) that sent the gun control cause into a permanent downward spiral. The "forward-looking" anti-gun theme that was supported by about 50% in 2000 is now supported by 25%, and still dropping.

What does that say about Weaver's political wisdom, not to mention his support for Constitutional rights? Bush won by a hair in 2000 only because of the pro-2A vote. Had McCain been the nominee, Weaver's advice would have caused Gore to be President on 9/11/2001.

What does it say about Huntsman that he would hire a man like Weaver?

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:41 PM (ZBbts)

171 You know.... if Trump REALLY wants to help this
country... he SHOULD get in the Primaries as a Presidential Candidate,
AS a DEMOCRAT!
Blue Dogs would come out in droves for him... and how could Obama NOT go to a Primary Debate?

Posted by: Romeo13

This is what I said several daze ago. I like Trump as a Dem candidate. I love the idea of him defrocking teh fuckstick.

Posted by: sTevo at April 22, 2011 03:41 PM (VMcEw)

172 Keyes/ Greinke 2012???
Tulo Sec Def?
Tulo is a RINO!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 03:41 PM (OWjjx)

173 I lived in Austin long enough to have lived through a number of cycles like this.Yeah, I know. They're a little jumpy about the fires out around Oak Hill, though.
I rmember some summers where downtown was literally black with crickets.Racist!
I'll be there on Monday. The best place to look is the Pedernales water level at Hwy 71 and Paleface Ranch.

Yep. Haven't been out that way in awhile though.

Give me a holler if you wanna do lunch Monday (sans the boy)

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:42 PM (LFiVW)

174 Someone please send this memo to the listed
candidates, with exception of Bachman and Cain ... tell them it's OK to
attack Obama and attack him hard. His record is beyond atrocious at
this point and getting worse, but most of the listed field is tepid at
best in their criticisms. That's got to change.


Posted by: thirteen28 at April 22, 2011 03:17 PM (AbmsP)

See #21.

Posted by: momma at April 22, 2011 03:42 PM (penCf)

175 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:36 PM (mHQ7T)

Whatever.

If you want to make the election between Barack Obama and a guy who thinks Barack Obama is "an exceptional leader" go ahead.


Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 03:42 PM (plesI)

176 I don't know, I'm inclined to think that the "wow" factor of A.B.O.** will reveal itself when the economy slips into the second half of the double-dip recession we're in, and stays there.

In fact, if the GOP can find a single testicle among the lot of them, what we'll be hearing (finally) is that the recession never actually
"ended", but was simply masked by artificially inflating GDP with
hundreds of billion$ of borrowed Taxpayers' dollars pumped into the
economy as welfare handouts and public sector payoffs... while the
unemployment rate skyrocketed WELL BEYOND the promises of the Office of the President-Elect, and stayed there.

The "wow" factor will reveal itself when Americans begin to understand how the
Spendulu$ was designed to keep million$ flowing into Democrat campaign
coffers and create the illusion of a "recovery", not to actually heal
the damage wrought by socially suicidal leftist policies. All of this
will be laid - rightly - at the feet of Congressional Democrats, who
began tanking a healthy economy in 2007, and BHO, whose lack of
experience and un-American, anti-free-market, dictatorial, collectivist
policies made things much, much worse. They won't have Bush to kick
around in 2012.


But that testicle thing... that's a BIG 'if'.

**Anyone But Obama

Posted by: goy at April 22, 2011 03:43 PM (AfU1B)

177 158
150 and I hate piling-0n to that poor person being beat-down but the "seizure"....um I don't know about that.

something with that just seemed to be a little off the first time I watched that video.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2011 03:36 PM (7dkEj)
It did look pretty weird to me. There was a thud noise that you couldn't see what had happened right before that. However, I have seen real seizures and they always look like a put-up job. She also lkooked like she was purposely hitting the wall with her hand. Very odd...
And what was with all the kicking in bare feet? I don't know... a lot less blood than one would expect. Getting kicked in the face like that normally would create a nose torrent.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:44 PM (uR5Zf)

178 Give me a holler if you wanna do lunch Monday (sans the boy)


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:42 PM (LFiVW)
Will do. Always big on the Arboretum area. Love the Domain!

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:45 PM (uR5Zf)

179 CK: "This election is not about who is the flashiest candidate, or who can
attract the biggest crowds or make the prettiest speeches. Are my
opponents and I the most exciting people to grace the political stage?"

Hey, you know who has experience and the flash and the crowds and the speeches and the conviction? Yeah, the one you say has no chance at all compared to every other name you could find.

Jeeze, Krauthammer. You really don't like the veteran who gets uppity now do you? I'm guessing you'd vote even for Obama instead of that woman so as not to hurt your political pride.

Analysis for the field as you see it: a classical B. Bias: an Obama's B+.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 22, 2011 03:45 PM (Ilc9V)

180 Foreign policy, executive, private sector experience. Rock ribbed conservative of abortion, guns and taxes. Supports moderate positions like civil unions for gays, open-minded toward climate change and immigration reform -- the exact positions held by GWB for 8 years. Telegenic, articulate, educated at Wharton, where he is active as an alumni and could make PA competitive. Better fund-raising ability than Mitt Romney and could go head to head with the Obama campaign. Also more secular than Mitt Romney, while actively charitable. That should appeal to evangelicals. You will have a hard time finding a better candidate.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:45 PM (mHQ7T)

181 Will do. Always big on the Arboretum area. Love the Domain!

Just let me know. Working up in Pflugerville, but I can get to that area pretty quick.

Still have my email and/or cell number?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:47 PM (LFiVW)

182 If you want to make the election between Barack Obama and a guy who thinks Barack Obama is "an exceptional leader" go ahead.

About 80% of the world thought Obama was an exceptional leader six months into his presidency, when even many Republicans congratulated him on winning and wished him luck for the sake of America.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:48 PM (mHQ7T)

183 Baltimore is pretty bad. Remember Homicide:: Life on the Street. It is worse now. When you elected hoods for mayor what could go wrong? The only safe place is ( i think) the Inner Harbor area for tourists. As far as "tranny", where did you read that? I am going to watch it again, I think she has the curves of a female but I will take another look.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 03:49 PM (V+/pV)

184 Lacey, re McDs. That was a 'wilding' caught on tape. Those perps need to be air-dropped in Wazirastan. Then let them show how bad-a** they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 22, 2011 03:49 PM (caQ0a)

185 Don't forget the anti-Palin fanatics. The ones who see absolutely no good, but all bad in Palin.

And let's not forget the "electability" brigade on the Right. Those who are fanatical about calling themselves "realists" and everyone else "cultists" and "purists" if they don't agree to support the latest "electable" RINO of choice.

Amen, brother.

I might add that usually, most of us "purists" would be happy with a candidate that was really mainstream. The problem doesn't come, for the most part, when they throw out standard-issue humdrum Republicans like, for instance, Norm Coleman, who are nowhere near far enough right but still identifiably more Republican than Democrat. The problem comes when they throw out candidates so far left that we can only conclude that the GOP establishment is pushing them primarily as a deliberate insult.

Example: Mike Castle, the only GOP Congressman to co-sponsor the permanent "Feinstein-plus" AWB in the last Congress, who was regularly getting less than 30% conservative records in Congress. Had the GOP put in an "arch-conservative" like Lindsey Graham or John McCain in Delaware, the conservative base would not have voted for Christine O'Donnell.

Note that we don't consider the same kind of candidate acceptable in South Carolina.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:52 PM (ZBbts)

186 Still have my email and/or cell number?


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:47 PM (LFiVW)
I do, I believe. I'll look later..Thanks!

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:53 PM (uR5Zf)

187 Great. So Huntsman's strategy is "finger in the wind."

Hey, I've got an idea. Let's elect Huntsman and then forge some polls showing that 90% of the public supports a dictatorship of the proletariat.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:53 PM (ZBbts)

188 Just let me know. Working up in Pflugerville, but I can get to that area pretty quick.

Still have my email and/or cell number?


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:47 PM (LFiVW)
Where in Pflugerville?I used to live on Windermere.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:53 PM (uR5Zf)

189 GRENADE PARTY!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 22, 2011 03:55 PM (bxiXv)

190 Where in Pflugerville?I used to live on Windermere.

Right around the corner from there on Grand Avenue.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:57 PM (LFiVW)

191 163 I want boring- I want to make this a referendum on Obama. Eviction of the current occupant is goal #1,2,3 and 4 . So you need the the most solid, drab, steady guy with as little baggage as possible for the task. Tim Pawlenty is tailor made to do this job.
Posted by: jjshaka at April 22, 2011 03:37 PM (4Bb/Y)

Pawlenty! are you joking!!!!
Pawlenty is a McCain protege',progressive-enabler and 50% responible for the three most despicable words in the English language "Senator Al Franken"
jesus h. christ, what hell is wrong with some of you? Pawlenty is part of the problem, the only people on that list that can be even partially trusted are Bachmann and Cain.

Posted by: Spirit of the Honey Badger at April 22, 2011 03:57 PM (m6OUa)

192 I used to live on Windermere.

Right around the corner from there on Grand Avenue.


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 03:57 PM (LFiVW)
Wow... my old girlfriend still lives right down the street in her condo. Small world.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 03:58 PM (uR5Zf)

193 the exact positions held by GWB for 8 years.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 03:45 PM (mHQ7T)


And as someone who increased state spending 10% a year, he's a big spender like Bush.

Awesome.
About 80% of the world thought Obama was an exceptional leader six
months into his presidency, when even many Republicans congratulated him
on winning and wished him luck for the sake of America.

And I question the judgement of those 80% too.

Congratulating and wishing the new President well for the sake of the country is not the same as calling him 'an exceptional leader'. He is not, nor has he ever been that. Anyone who thinks he is or was is unfit to be the GOP nominee.

But again, he's your guy so enjoy. Just expect to catch a ton of shit (not from me) every time you pimp the guy here. He's awful.

Posted by: DrewM. at April 22, 2011 04:00 PM (plesI)

194 It doesn't matter who we run unless we take back the Senate with a RINO margin of error at the same time we get rid of Obama with a true conservative.

From the thread yesterday:
Listen and understand. The debt is out there. It can't be bargained
with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or
fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever . . . until you're doomedTM

all
rights reserved - Monty



If either one of those things does not come to pass we will not make it past the next election in 2014. We will either spiral into insurrection in the manner of the Wiemar Republic via hyper inflation or we will spiral into collapse due to mass rioting in the urban areas due to government collapse.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 04:02 PM (M9Ie6)

195 She does not look like a trany. But one guy says "life on the street" right before "she is bleeding, yo!"

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 04:06 PM (V+/pV)

196 Why is all the heavy dem cities so crime ridden? Gee, I wonder...

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at April 22, 2011 04:07 PM (V+/pV)

197 I figured Krauthammer out after one of the debates in '08. Obama had delivered his usual line of blather, saying nothing of substance. He was running out the clock. During the Fox post-game analysis, Krauthammer said, "Obama delivered his usual brilliant performance."

WHAT? Were we even watching the same debate?

It's almost like the entire power structure of the US had decided in advance that Obama would be the next president.

Which makes me worried about O's latest "one-fourth of the way through my presidency" proclamation. Maybe it's already been decided.

I want to believe our elections are mostly on the up-and-up, but sometimes I wonder.

Posted by: tsj017 at April 22, 2011 04:13 PM (4YUWF)

198 Damn Ace, I wrote a long post for that Fred Thompson thingy and you pulled the article so my post disappeared.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 04:14 PM (M9Ie6)

199 Wow... my old girlfriend still lives right down the street in her condo. Small world.

How long has it been since you've been out this way? P'ville has grown a lot lately.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 04:17 PM (LFiVW)

200 It's almost like the entire power structure of the US had decided in advance that Obama would be the next president.

If you don't worry you're going crazy, you're probably crazy.

I want to believe our elections are mostly on the up-and-up, but sometimes I wonder. Posted by: tsj017 at April 22, 2011 04:13 PM (4YUWF)
Then again, you may be crazy. Election fraud is *rampant* and one of the greatest threats to the Republic, and half the electorate and two thirds of the "government insider class" secretly or openly approve.It's one of my biggest concerns.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 22, 2011 04:18 PM (bxiXv)

201 198: I don't think Krauthammer is a mole. I think he's a hawkish left-of-center pundit with an Ivory Tower view of the world that might have been fairly accurate in, say, 1984, but is no longer so. He generally supports Republicans nowadays, not because of some plot to subvert the party, but because the Democrats are so far towards Communism that he can't stomach them any more. Nevertheless, his left-of-center opinions on most issues are the same they have always been.

I heard a saying once: a church should be happy when the town hooker starts attending services, but that doesn't qualify her to start preaching sermons.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:21 PM (ZBbts)

202 The field is weak?! the fucking field is weak?! You're weak.
- The man from downtown Mitch and Murray

Posted by: scott at April 22, 2011 04:24 PM (40ben)

203 I disagree-why buy into the media's narrative at all? You're only boring if you agree that you are, right? Why not just turn it around on them, i.e. 'boring candidates? Weird I've never heard that. You must hang out on liberal blogs a lot or something. You think our candidates are boring? Compared to Biden and Obama? Huh...good luck with that."

Posted by: Christian at April 22, 2011 04:26 PM (54iLx)

204 How long has it been since you've been out this way? P'ville has grown a lot lately.


Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 22, 2011 04:17 PM (LFiVW)
I lived there with her from 1989-91. A very major deal...

I know... I remember Pflugerville when I was a kid, and the tiny downtown burned down in 1970. It had about 150 people and it was country roads all the way.
Hutto was bigger back then.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 22, 2011 04:27 PM (uR5Zf)

205 Mike Castle, the only GOP candidate to hold office DE for the past several decades.

Note that we don't consider the same kind of candidate acceptable in South Carolina.
Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 03:52 PM (ZBbts)

FYI, State Sen. John Courson, who has correctly picked the winner of the SC Republican primary in every contest since he supported Ronald Reagan in 1980, announced that he plans to back Huntsman.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:31 PM (mHQ7T)

206 I don't think Krauthammer is a mole.

For whatever reason, he believes Gingrich and Daniels will actually run. The man's not stupid, so... I dunno.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:33 PM (mHQ7T)

207 None of this would be happening if we had a Black president.

Posted by: Barry (Black only when necessary) Obismo at April 22, 2011 04:37 PM (do977)

208 FYI, State Sen. John Courson, who has correctly picked the winner of the SC Republican primary in every contest since he supported Ronald Reagan in 1980, announced that he plans to back Huntsman.

So now we are supposed to pick our candidate based on some obscure state senator, because he got lucky in his picks.

Tell you what. Why not just crown Courson King John the First? Or better yet, my friend Jesse--he is really good at picking Superbowl winners.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:38 PM (ZBbts)

209 Just expect to catch a ton of shit (not from me) every time you pimp the guy here.

If anyone had bothered to "pimp" candidates who can win to "conservatives," Republicans wouldn't find themselves in their current predicament. Somehow, complimenting Obama is a disqualifier, but plenty of chuckleheads here say they would still vote for Romney *who wrote the fucking POS healthcare bill with Zombie Swimmer that most Americans want repealed.* So, I'm not worried about which candidate I support until anybody here can identify someone better.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:40 PM (mHQ7T)

210 I forgot my italics when quoting Drew M.

Just expect to catch a ton of shit (not from me) every time you pimp the guy here.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:41 PM (mHQ7T)

211 Mike Castle, the only GOP candidate to hold office DE for the past several decades.

So there were no successful Republican businessmen in DE? Or, even if there weren't, they could have challenged "safe" Democrats like Don Wyden by recruiting GOP candidates with the same time and money they used to recruit the far-left Mike Castle.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:42 PM (ZBbts)

212 So now we are supposed to pick our candidate based on some obscure state senator, because he got lucky in his picks.

Nope, just saying Huntsman will likely win NH, SC and FL, so get used to your next nominee. You might not have heard of him yet, but he's everywhere that counts.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:43 PM (mHQ7T)

213 I'm with you on Mitt "No, really, Kennedy, I support abortion and gun control too!" Romney, however.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:44 PM (ZBbts)

214 Nope, just saying Huntsman will likely win NH, SC and FL, so get used to your next nominee.

That must be some good acid.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:46 PM (ZBbts)

215 So there were no successful Republican businessmen in DE?

In case you didn't notice with Meg Whitman, Doug Hoffman and Linda McMahon, successful businessmen with no relevant political experience don't always fare well against even weak candidates who sass military officers and lie about serving in Vietnam. Do you even remember who won NY23? But those candidates all had real jobs unlike the idiot DE Republicans nominated, so I can't criticize them too much.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:47 PM (mHQ7T)

216 Huntsman hasn't got a fucking chance in SC. NOT.ONE.IOTA.OF.A.CHANCE

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 04:48 PM (M9Ie6)

217 That must be some good acid.
Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:46 PM (ZBbts)

Like I said, I would love to hear which candidate is going to beat him. Trump has another 45 days until his expiration date, and Christie wouldn't do better.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:50 PM (mHQ7T)

218 A successful GOP businessman would have run a better campaign than O'Donnell and would have tied up Democrat funds, so that we might have won in some of the states you mention. He would not have enraged Delaware conservatives by making the election about their personal honor.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:50 PM (ZBbts)

219 Huntsman hasn't got a fucking chance in SC.

I bet you Lindsay Graham can introduce him to all the powrebrokers in your little state.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:51 PM (mHQ7T)

220 Like I said, I would love to hear which candidate is going to beat him.

Probably damned near all of them, including Barbour and Johnson. Huntsman has got "last place," or close to it, written all over him. He cannot possibly get Republican primary voters to support him.

I fully expect that you will be on this site a year from now, raging about how anti-Mormon bigotry sunk Huntsman's chances.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:54 PM (ZBbts)

221 A successful GOP businessman would have run a better campaign

You ignore the point that self-funding candidates know jack shit about winning elections. Many politicians in office have lost before they won. You have to learn the lay of the land and build an apparatus, which takes time and hard work.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:54 PM (mHQ7T)

222 I fully expect that you will be on this site a year from now, raging about how anti-Mormon bigotry sunk Huntsman's chances.
Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:54 PM (ZBbts)

Then you don't know me well, because I never liked Romney and had few problems with McCain, since I didn't like any of the other GOP candidates.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:56 PM (mHQ7T)

223 I bet you Lindsay Graham can introduce him to all the powrebrokers in your little state.

Avoiding the temptation to be a spelling nazi, I'll tell you that conservative voters don't vote on the basis of what a RINO Senator tells them to do. Or "powrebrokers" either.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:56 PM (ZBbts)

224 More like a typo nazi.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:56 PM (mHQ7T)

225 You have to learn the lay of the land and build an apparatus, which takes time and hard work.

That's why Castle's campaign was so successful. But that doesn't count, because O'Donnell cheated. Make her give it back!

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 04:57 PM (ZBbts)

226 Barky's nasal mole would not even vote for him in 2012.
I say that, as along with his weird-wristed jog onto podiums and up/down the stairs of Air Force One, plus his annoying whistling 's' sounds, I want to cut off the nasolabial fold mole with a rusty coat-hanger from a dark alley given to me by Gloria Steinem.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 22, 2011 04:59 PM (FnRYN)

227 I always wondered whether I would have supported Reagan, if I had been old enough to vote for him. Now I know I would have, because he was more flexible than many so-called conservatives these days. I was proud to have attended Clinton's first inauguration, a president who was a far sight better than this one.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 04:59 PM (mHQ7T)

228 I bet you Lindsay Graham can introduce him to all the powrebrokers in your little state.
Sadly, there is a grain of truth to that statement.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 05:00 PM (OWjjx)

229 Hello all, first post!
Lt. Col. Allan West 2012, Yep a real black Man! I love this guy!

Posted by: Dagger80 at April 22, 2011 05:01 PM (yDREB)

230 Lindsey graham has shot his wad in this State. he's damn lucky he is not up for a vote next year.

Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 05:02 PM (M9Ie6)

231 That's why Castle's campaign was so successful. But that doesn't count, because O'Donnell cheated.

He undoubtedly could have run a better campaign, but you can't blame him for underestimating that nutter. She only lost five elections before that. Levin, Hannity and Palin piling on and lying about his record hardly helped. But even NRO is a bunch of RINOs, so I'm in good company.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:02 PM (mHQ7T)

232 Avoiding the temptation to be a spelling nazi, I'll tell you that conservative voters don't vote on the basis of what a RINO Senator tells them to do.
Actaully, the key to the GOP nomination is not Iowa or New Hampshire (their job is to narrow the field) but the key is South Carolina. No Republican has ever lost South Carolina and gone on to win the nomination. And Graham, like him or not, is a major influence in South Carolina politics. So yes, a Graham endrosement in South Carolina can make a significant impact on the race.
The difference this year may not be Graham or DeMint (who, surprisingly, seems to be heading toward endorsing Romney) but Nikki Haley, the Governor. Who she goes with may very well be telling and make her the Kingmaker.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 05:04 PM (OWjjx)

233 Lindsey graham has shot his wad in this State. he's damn lucky he is not up for a vote next year.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2011 05:02 PM (M9Ie6)

He should be thrown out on his ass for sucking up to the muzzies, but he's got till 2014 and has been playing this game for years. You won't find someone to primary him. That's the tea party MO.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:04 PM (mHQ7T)

234 He undoubtedly could have run a better campaign, but you can't blame him for underestimating that nutter. She only lost five elections before that. Levin, Hannity and Palin piling on and lying about his record hardly helped. But even NRO is a bunch of RINOs, so I'm in good company.

Like I said, she cheated so it doesn't count, and Castle was a perfect candidate.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:04 PM (ZBbts)

235 but Nikki Haley, the Governor. Who she goes with may very well be telling and make her the Kingmaker.

Well, she's already said she will endorse Trump!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:05 PM (mHQ7T)

236 Posted by: Dagger80 at April 22, 2011 05:01 PM (yDREB)
You understand that the new poster has to buy the Valu-Rite and pay for the hookers.....right?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 05:07 PM (OWjjx)

237 Like I said, she cheated so it doesn't count, and Castle was a perfect candidate.
Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:04 PM (ZBbts)

Too bad she couldn't cheat her way to beating the bearded marxist. Guess she'll just cheat next time, too. Just like how she cheats on her taxes and all the rest of her BS crazy resume.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:07 PM (mHQ7T)

238 Sorry guys, but it is a weak field right now, unless you count Trump, then the story goes off the wall a bit. Trump, the Dem in RINO Clothing, is the joker in the pack, a wild card play that can only hurt the GOP in the long run. Sure, some straight talk is good about our dealings with international trading partners, but the birther thing smells to me like a honey pot trap set by the Dems, who right now seem to be politically outmanuvering some slow to get it Republican leaders. H/T to Bonnie Tyler
Where have all the good men goneAnd where are all the gods?Where's the street-wise HerculesTo fight the rising odds?Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?Late at night I toss and turn and dreamof what I needI need a heroI'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the nightHe's gotta be strongAnd he's gotta be fastAnd he's gotta be fresh from the fightI need a heroI'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning lightHe's gotta be sureAnd it's gotta be soonAnd he's gotta be larger than life

Posted by: MisterMoney at April 22, 2011 05:09 PM (wN82N)

239 I always wondered whether I would have supported Reagan, if I had been old enough to vote for him. Now I know I would have, because he was more flexible than many so-called conservatives these days.

If you aren't sure about supporting the greatest President of the 20th century, who was also a staunch conservative, then frankly there's no reaching you. BTW, he was "flexible" only when it was necessary to get legislation passed. He didn't run off on left-wing fads during elections.

I was proud to have attended Clinton's first inauguration, a president who was a far sight better than this one.

Yeah, the Incinerator of Waco was a great guy all around. I'm probably just biased, being one of the gun owners on his secret illegal registration list and all.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:09 PM (ZBbts)

240 Of those eight, the only one I'd be willing to cast a vote for is Bachmann.

Gingrich and Romney are non-starters. The rest, I'll wait on.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 22, 2011 05:11 PM (Kd7IW)

241 Too bad she couldn't cheat her way to beating the bearded marxist.

Too bad the GOP couldn't find someone to the right of Obama on gun rights to oppose her.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:11 PM (ZBbts)

242 DeMint (who, surprisingly, seems to be heading toward endorsing Romney)

What's the surprise there? DeMint is full of shit but fancies himself one day being president like all other senators. He's sucking up to Romney, because he wants to be his veep, delivering ultimate conservative credentials. That's why he was opposed to Haley; she actually trumps him there, because she's a woman who is close to Sarah Palin. Romney would pick Haley as his veep in a heartbeat, but DeMint is still holding out hope.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:12 PM (mHQ7T)

243 Too bad the GOP couldn't find someone to the right of Obama on gun rights to oppose her.
Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:11 PM (ZBbts)

It's DE. Nobody wanted anyone to the right of Obama.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:13 PM (mHQ7T)

244 Apparently the GOP primary voters did. But they were cheating so it doesn't count.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:14 PM (ZBbts)

245 who was also a staunch conservative

You know who Reagan's favorite president was? F to the motherfucking D. R. Look it up.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:15 PM (mHQ7T)

246 Apparently the GOP primary voters did.

Apparently, they lost. Congratulations, Senator Coons.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:16 PM (mHQ7T)

247 @17: "GOP motto in 2012: Because our guy sucks just a bit less than your guy."
Nah, needs to be more dramatic: "Guess what guys, it's time to embrace the horror! Look, we've got front row tickets to the end of the earth United States of America!"

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 22, 2011 05:18 PM (xy9wk)

248 You're right. Reagan was a leftist. That's why he brought taxes from 70% to 28% and built up the military enough to bankrupt the USSR. He showed his "flexibillity" when he told Gorbachev to FOAD over missile defense.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:19 PM (ZBbts)

249 I have to go catch a benefit screening of Kineto Shindo's 'The Naked Island' for Japanese tsunami relief introduced by Benicio Del Toro. I'm sure you'll be broken up without me. Good luck to Tim Pawlenty or whichever loser you support.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 22, 2011 05:19 PM (mHQ7T)

250 Apparently, they lost. Congratulations, Senator Coons.

Dude, you're the one saying we had to nominate Castle because he knew the lay of the land. "Apparently," he didn't. So basically you're telling me that it was smart to nominate a leftist who was taken by the GOP both in Delaware and nationwide as an insult, because he knew the lay of the land almost well enough to beat a former witch. Gotcha.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:23 PM (ZBbts)

251 You know who Reagan's favorite president was? F to the motherfucking D. R. Look it up.

Reagan voted for FDR, but his favorite President was most likely the one whose picture he hung in the Oval Office: Calvin Coolidge.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:25 PM (ZBbts)

252 I'm guessing that Tattoo de Plane's political experience consists of (a) schmoozing big money donors on Meet the Donors Day for College Republicans; and (b) trying to convince Democrat sluts that he's a "libertarian," not a conservative. (Funny how "libertarians" in college always seem to be cool with anti-libertarian causes like gun control. You'd almost think it was just a tactic to get laid by giving the shaft to the party base).

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 05:31 PM (ZBbts)

253 Did you forget someone on that list there, Sparky?

Posted by: Sarah "Barracuda" Palin at April 22, 2011 05:36 PM (uGE+P)

254 An what did we get last time? Styrofoam temples.

Posted by: tarpon at April 22, 2011 05:59 PM (g0QB8)

255 Speaking of Chuckie Krauthammer being an asshole on wheels, will someone please wheel him OUT OF THE ROOM.

Posted by: bigmike at April 22, 2011 06:05 PM (YogFi)

256 I'm tired of hearing that the feild is weak. Personally, I don't think the feild has been completed yet. Half the guys on that list would mop the floor with Obama in a debate. Which leads to a prognostication.....I would bet that Obama will do just about anythingto ensure there are no debates. If there are...there will only be one. (With a White Houseapproved moderator of course).

Posted by: CLambert at April 22, 2011 06:13 PM (CZ4Ap)

257 Here are some of the "interesting" comments i just read when scanning through them.

"Demint is full of shit" --oh yeah, since when?

"Romney would pick Haley as his Veep in a heartbeat" --another fairly attractive recently elected female gov as veep?

"Krauthammer is left of center" --thats another new one to me.

"Romney and Newt are nonstarters" --i consider these two to be the two of the smartest politicians around whether you like them or not.

First post here, players.

Posted by: GoatFaceKilla at April 22, 2011 06:17 PM (vKBOf)

258 DANIELS! DANIELS! DANIELS!!!!!!

Posted by: squareforceone at April 22, 2011 07:02 PM (l2xWo)

259 Krauthammer isn't left of center on the Beltway circuit, but he is compared to the population as a whole. He's a conservative in the sense of being a hawk and in the sense that he's OK with Bush's level of overspending but not Obama's, since, unlike the current Dems, he isn't stark raving mad or trying to destroy America.

However, he has supported left-wing positions in the past, such as gun confiscation. He also once worked for Walter Mondale.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 07:07 PM (ZBbts)

260 Kin we get Susan Collins to deliver that speech Ace just wrote?

Posted by: I'mWithStupid at April 22, 2011 07:12 PM (xhNbo)

261 However, he has supported left-wing positions in the past, such as gun confiscation. He also once worked for Walter Mondale.
And Reagan once voted for FDR and Jean Kirkpatrick was a Democrat and yada the yada the yada..............
Look, want a columnist to agree with you 100% of the time...better start writing. Just like if you want the President or the GOP nominee to agree with you 100% of the time, better start running.
And yea, we get it, you don't like gun control.
The Kraut is right on something, wrong on others and who the hell knows on everything else.
Here is what I want to know - who you got?
I hate these threads....why....because it boils down to a piss on the other guy marathon.
Bluntly, I would vote for damn near anyone, anyone, over Obama. Even Alan Keyes. And I loath Alan Keyes. Nearly as much as I admire.........The Greatness......That is................Zach Greinke.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2011 07:14 PM (OWjjx)

262 And yea, we get it, you don't like gun control.

Along with most of the GOP and independents, and a sizeable chunk of moderate Democrats. If you're wrong on this issue and you're a Republican, you lose.

Now, granted, Krauthammer isn't running, and, as I stated before, I think he's honest about the things he says. However, he isn't just pro-gun control; he's pro-gun confiscation. That is an extreme position, and the fact that he doesn't think so causes me to question his value as an observer of the political scene.

I don't hate Krauthammer. I just don't think his advice is worth anything.

Posted by: Ken at April 22, 2011 07:25 PM (ZBbts)

263 Actually, a better question might be "Are you better off now than when the Republicans took over in 2000?"

In my case not so much.

Posted by: wfeather at April 22, 2011 08:06 PM (kHkKf)

264 Would you guys mind laying off the damn italics keys for a bit? Thanks.

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Posted by: cs gan at April 23, 2011 12:28 AM (q2b2X)

266 "Demint is full of shit" --oh yeah, since when?

Jim DeMint and Lindsay Graham have been playing good cop bad cop for a long time, and nobody seems to catch on. "Why does a RINO like Lindsay Graham keep getting reelected in such a red state as South Carolina? Why not somebody more like Jim DeMint?" Because all you "conservatives" love your spending cuts until they're coming for a piece of your pie. Why do you think Ron Paul keeps getting elected in Texas? Paul Ryan does the same thing. Even Jim Demint is full of shit on earmarks. I guarantee you Lindsay Graham will get reelected, because he took a bullet on that Port of Charleston earmark. Jim DeMint grandstanded and railed that earmarks are evil... for you guys, who aren't paying attention but just like having smoke blown up your asses. But then he goes back home and reassures the people in his district that's not what he really meant, he just wants the best deal for them and knows how bad their economy needs this. Graham then uses DeMint to show Washington that they mean it, they will "tie the Senate in knots" over this unless Harry Reid negotiates with them. This is the real meaning of "necessary spending cuts," as you have all seen. So, the pork gets doled out to James Clyburn, who gets the most, then Lindsay Graham gets $50,000 and then DeMint gets his cut. He has quietly back the earmarks all along. This is how the King of the Tea Party can rationalize endorsing Mitt "I wrote Romneycare with Ted Kennedy" Romney for president. When the public was outraged, Jim DeMint said, "No, no, no. I supported him last time. Not sure about this time." But now he says Romney might talk himself out of this, using the old "states are the test kitchens for the nation" argument. But it really means Mitt just needs to name his price, because we've already established what he is. IMO, Lindsay Graham is the tougher of the two, because at least he doesn't try to sugarcoat things. Any guy with a PAC like DeMint's is plain ambitious. Period.

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