France Steps Into Leadership Vacuum; Recognizes Libyan Rebels As Legitimate Government of Country, Suggests Air Strikes

If there is one benefit to Obama, it is that his refusal to act the role of grown-up is forcing people who have previously acted the part of adolescent to step up and act grown-up.

And that's about it.

Libyan opposition, France has become the first country to formally recognise Libya’s rebel leadership, pledging to exchange ambassadors between Paris and the Libyan opposition stronghold of Benghazi.


France became the first country to formally recognize the Libyan opposition – the Interim Transitional National Council - as legitimate representatives of the Libyan people on Thursday, pledging to exchange ambassadors with the country’s newly created transitional council in a major diplomatic victory for the Libyan opposition.

Obama's "smart power" can't even embrace purely diplomatic moves like this?

AFP reports that Sarkozy will propose "targeted airstrikes" when NATO meets.

I've been thinking of major themes in 2012. I think this hits at one of the two major themes I'd like to see our candidates (for all offices) push.

First: What do we need Obama for? On the stimulus, he let Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid write a trillion dollar waste of money; he offered them no guidance, he did not threaten to veto any pork spending. He just deferred. He did not lead; he delegated.

On ObamaCare, he expressly campaigned against Hillary Clinton's proposal of an individual mandate -- an idea so unpopular in the caucus (and the nation at large) that he made political hay over it every time the subject came up.

But when it was time to write the law that he had only vaguely alluded to, he showed no leadership again, offering silly "goals" that he wanted met (and in fact were largely not met by the ultimate legislation). Having campaigned against the individual mandate, he left it in the hands of Harry Reid and his lawyers to write the bill; they included the mandate he had made a major stand in campaigning against. Once again, he deferred to others.

In the cases of uprisings in Iran and Libya, rather than show American leadership, he once again voted present and said little and did even less. He left a leadership void in world leadership now being filled, thankfully, by the British and the French.

All of these cases illustrate that Obama really isn't bringing anything to the table. He is not contributing to the most important questions facing the country -- he does not offer ideas, or support for particular plans. He lets other people do the deciding, and then he embraces whatever consensus others have created.

A Republican candidate for President should ask: For $400,000 per year in salary, what are we actually getting? Is he actually doing his job? Couldn't anyone do what Obama has done? Put anyone in the office, someone unqualified and well over their heads, and they'd do the same thing, sit back, let other people handle it.

A Republican candidate should ask if someone being paid $400,000 per year to do a job should maybe spend less time golfing and more time doing the job.

The other major theme -- this one isn't related to Libya -- is that we are a country divided not by race but by relationship with the IRS. Most of the country is the Nation of Tax-Payers. A significant but very loud and very demanding minority is the Nation of Tax-Consumers.

And one party is the Party of Tax-Payers, representing their interests, and the other party is the Party of Tax-Consumers, representing their interests.

There are two economies in this country, sitting parallel to each other, bound chiefly by the fact that one of the economies may take money from the other economy whenever it gets into a pinch.

One economy is dynamic and competitive and forced by global market forces to make many adjustments and painful decisions -- such as layoffs and cutbacks -- as it struggles to turn a profit.

The other economy is stagnant, complacent, and insulated from market forces, because they get raises whether their employer, the Government, is turning a profit or deep in debt. Doesn't matter which. If the government is in debt, they just jack up taxes on the other America.

Whenever the Nation of Tax-Consumers thinks it's owed a raise -- and they always think that, despite the fact that almost universally they show no improvement and usually actually do their jobs more poorly every year -- they just raise property taxes and other taxes on the Nation of Tax-Payers.

The difference between the two nations is simple: In one nation, employees can choose and bribe the employers who will be negotiating their contracts.

I'm sure the Nation of Tax-Payers would love to be in that situation, of firing their boss if he doesn't accede to their every benefits-and-salary-and-time-off demand. But they're not, of course. Only the Nation of Tax-Consumers enjoys this position, and because there is no genuine negotiation going on here on behalf of the tax-payer, only between members of the nation of tax-consumers, the tax-payer is always screwed.

This is not a battle of the rich versus the poor. Since the idea of social/economic classes were invented, government civil servants and teachers have always been considered members of the middle class.

Rather, it's largely a fight between one middle class -- the middle class generating wealth -- and another middle class -- the middle class consuming the wealth the other generates.

Neither of these themes is ready to go. Neither is ready for prime time. But I think someone smarter than me can do something with them.

Posted by: Ace at 01:31 PM



Comments

1 Exactly what did you expect from Pres**ent Obama ?

Posted by: Neo at March 10, 2011 01:33 PM (tvs2p)

2 Told You!

Posted by: Napoleon Boned Apart at March 10, 2011 01:33 PM (Q5+Og)

3 Good! Let the Euros do this. We need to stay the hell out of this.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at March 10, 2011 01:35 PM (MPtFW)

4 I'm living in Bizarro world.

The world I used to know: Feckless French refuse to allow US planes to fly over their country on the way to bomb Libya.

The world I now live in: French willing to bomb Qaddafi into the stone age while knee-jerk pacifist US President sits on his own thumbs.

You
know all those douche-bag hippie liberals (but I repeat myself) like
Johnny Depp and Robert Crumb who moved to France to get away from the
violent, imperialist aggressions of the United States? Wonder how
they're feeling right about now.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at March 10, 2011 01:35 PM (QxGmu)

5
1. Big mistake; Gaddfai will prevail.

2. This is quite ballsy for France. Right now aren't they tamping down a revolt in Ivory Coast?

Posted by: Soothsayer Grande at March 10, 2011 01:36 PM (uFokq)

6 Nice thread Ace. But I don't see how this helps me.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at March 10, 2011 01:36 PM (Q1lie)

7 I think France is one of the top importers of Libyan Oil, so this was bound to happen sooner or later.
since they aren't really helping us in the war on terror, they should be free to launch attacks on gadaffi themselves.
Good luck to them

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 01:37 PM (wuv1c)

8 France, historically, gets in bed with a lot of unsavory people to serve their own interests (Saddam, for one). Again, do we know who these 'rebels' are?

Posted by: nickless at March 10, 2011 01:37 PM (MMC8r)

9 In the cases of uprisings in Iran and Libya, rather than show American
leadership, he once again voted present and said little and did even
less.

Honduras too.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 10, 2011 01:37 PM (xx42+)

10 What !?!
A bunch of Cheese-eating surrender monkeys acted before the President of the United States ?

Posted by: Groundskeeper Willie at March 10, 2011 01:37 PM (tvs2p)

11 Looks like the French penises still have spines.

Posted by: dagny at March 10, 2011 01:38 PM (2jNdn)

12 France is going to take the fat oil contracts away from Britain.

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 01:38 PM (GTbGH)

13 This is about the the public sector unions balancing their caviar and wine on the backs of hard working taxpayers.


OK, its really about socialism, but I am learning to speak lefty.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2011 01:38 PM (qqrPQ)

14 Precendet Obama, who's the surrender monkeys now?

Posted by: Nicolas Sarkozy at March 10, 2011 01:38 PM (zgZzy)

15
The UN will condemn France if it strikes targets in Libya.


Posted by: Soothsayer Grande at March 10, 2011 01:38 PM (uFokq)

16 6 Nice thread Ace. But I don't see how this helps me.



Don't worry, Mitt. It will.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at March 10, 2011 01:40 PM (zgZzy)

17 Aw geez! I told Nick that this isbullying, and it looks like he's not going to listen to me.

Posted by: Barry Obama at March 10, 2011 01:40 PM (ihSHD)

18 Looks like the French penises still have spines.
That accounts for the calluses on their right hands.

Posted by: Cicero at March 10, 2011 01:40 PM (QKKT0)

19 France also has an issue with a couple hundred thousand 'soldiers of allah' fleeing Libya and hitting their shores disguised as refugees. They've got a lot more to lose then we do by staying out of it.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at March 10, 2011 01:40 PM (IhHdM)

20 President Awesome is all about leadership. Quiet, sexy, behind the scenes leadership. HE's not in it for accolades or to increase his standing around the world. HE's in it for the children.

Posted by: some flying nuns who crashed into a tree at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (1fB+3)

21 This reminds me of a joke...

Posted by: The Leadership Vacuum Salesman at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (TXKVh)

22 So Frenchy, splain me this: Who are the rebels?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (0GFWk)

23 Excellent rant, Ace.

Posted by: blue star at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (4OCrT)

24 Big mistake; Gaddfai will prevail.

Not if one of the many powerful parties who has a vested interest in seeing his head on a pike take this thing seriously. I don't think it would take much effort on their part to make him go away. If we do nothing and Daffy prevails, we will have squandered a real opportunity, not only to be rid of someone known to hate us and sponsor attacks against us, but to be rid of a brutal dictator in a nation that looks to be looking for some more freedom.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (0q2P7)

25 It's time to step up and be a man, not a metrosexual, mom jean pussy.

http://tinyurl.com/4jx84fq

Posted by: Kemp at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (JpFM9)

26 I'm actually surprised that Obowmao hasn't come out and lectured Sarkozy about "acting unilaterally".

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 01:42 PM (ihSHD)

27 At the risk of sounding like a Paulbot, we have enough problems right here. Stay the hell out of Libya. Wind down Iraq like Zero promised.

I tried that out on my lib brother. No blood for oil, all that. Like his hero Barry, he doesn't know what to think......

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 10, 2011 01:42 PM (YmPwQ)

28 Barack Obama: Phoning It In Since, ... Birth

Posted by: Cicero at March 10, 2011 01:42 PM (QKKT0)

29 Aggressive French men make me wet...

Posted by: The Haunted Pussy at March 10, 2011 01:42 PM (YVZlY)

30 If we do nothing and Daffy prevails, we will have squandered a real opportunity, not only to be rid of someone known to hate us and sponsor attacks against us, but to be rid of a brutal dictator in a nation that looks to be looking for some more freedom.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 10, 2011 01:41 PM (0q2P7)

OK but what comes after Daffy? And don't tell me it couldn't be worse, because it could be alot worse?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 01:43 PM (0GFWk)

31 So..... will the Libyans go to McDonalds and order freedom fries or French fries? I'm so confused.

Posted by: pep at March 10, 2011 01:43 PM (GMG6W)

32 Shit. And I thought he was about to take his feet off me for a change.

Posted by: Obama's Desk at March 10, 2011 01:43 PM (TXKVh)

33 The Rebellion is ...lost!

Posted by: Paladin at March 10, 2011 01:44 PM (mCOPv)

34 What do we need Obama for?

This is the same guy who is hiring a Cabinet Czar because he's not even capable of talking to his own staff.

At what point does "delegation" become "dereliction of duty?"

Posted by: wiserbud at March 10, 2011 01:44 PM (RkrQu)

35 Hate to say this, but France's Sarkozy has been leader of the free world since '08.

Unlike our dictator-coddling President, he's the one (at least) giving lip service to promoting global Democracy.


Posted by: looking closely at March 10, 2011 01:44 PM (6Q9g2)

36 I support Sarkozy as long as there's no torture. Blowing them to bits is ok but, no torture.

Posted by: John McCain at March 10, 2011 01:45 PM (EL+OC)

37 What candidate could make such an argument?

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 01:45 PM (wuv1c)

38 I am not sure cause I am not up on weapons systems, but don't we have some cool toys that can shoot down planes from afar from our ships over there? We should have those guys practice.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2011 01:46 PM (qqrPQ)

39 I hate when posts disappear.

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 01:46 PM (GTbGH)

40 There goes France again with their unilateral warmongering.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 10, 2011 01:47 PM (+lsX1)

41 This as reports come out that the rebels are in flight. Once again Obama boots what should be a no-brainer. The notion thata "no-fly zone" is necessary is ridiculous. Just launch an intercept mission to the location of the air strikes. This civil war has been remarkably concentrated in a couple small areas.Libya is coastal cities and mostly uninhabited desert.
I wonder how many people leading western nations even think about Patton, Rommel, and Montgomery when reading the news from Libya? Only stupid "Middle Americans" study military history any more.
That seems to be this week's theme, fromCharlie Sheen to NPR: middle Americashould be held in contempt and is worse thanthe intellectual foundation for every modern jihad group.
(Hint for trolling lefties: that last bit is about the Muslim Brotherhood or Ikhwan for short in Arabic.)

Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2011 01:48 PM (sOtz/)

42 All of these cases illustrate that Obama really isn't bringing anything to the table. He is not contributing to the most important questions facing the country -- he does not offer ideas, or support for particular plans. He lets other people do the deciding, and then he embraces whatever consensus others have created.

Come on, Ace! Give the guy a break. Last night was his NBA party at the WH watching the Bulls play, tomorrow night is the party he's hosting for Teh Stanley Cup winning Black Hawks. All this between scouring the WH backyard with the Pooper Scooper, coaching his daughter's basketball game, working out with his trainer who flies all the way from Chicago to meet with him, Wednesday evening cocktail parties, appearing in FB videos and on TV to launch a new, important domestic program against bullying, attending fundraising speeches, and brewing the new WH beer. This guy is very busy! There's only so many hours in the day, and he doesn't even have the time to meet with heads of his own cabinet. I just hope he's getting enough sleep at night!

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 01:50 PM (ihSHD)

43 Well when the current president of the US has less balls than the average girl scout, even the biggest sniveling pussy will look like rambo.

Posted by: Berserker at March 10, 2011 01:50 PM (gWHrG)

44 Seriously, I can't understand a fuckin' word this little crackah man says.

Posted by: Presidente Obama at March 10, 2011 01:50 PM (TXKVh)

45 If France has taken the lead....well...

On to your larger theme...I think you are spot-on, Ace. And, the two parallels cannot coexist...they are mutually exclusive. It's the Taxed vs. the Takers.

When the government class was a smallish, less expensive minority, the Taxed lived with it. Most of the Taxed probably never even considered the implications very deeply.

Now, however, the beast that is the Takers needs to be fed more and more. And, it has become unruly...demanding...and ungrateful. The Taxed are starting to notice. And, more importantly, are becoming unable to keep up with the appetite of the Takers, even if we wanted to.

So, we are heading for a showdown...one that, IMO, is badly needed. This question of the role of the government class and the Takers needs to be addressed and settled in a clear, decisive way. The "battle" itself, may not require "". It may become an actual revolution-type situation. But, the question must be answered and kicking the can down the road will only exacerbate the situation and make the remedy that much more painful.

Posted by: The Hammer at March 10, 2011 01:54 PM (32ubA)

46 These are not the threads you're looking for.

Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi at March 10, 2011 01:55 PM (QxGmu)

47 This thread has been acting like a French ally.

French leadership? LOL. The French haven't made one correct decision of import in the last 100 years. Not a one.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:05 PM (G/MYk)

48 But what candidate can do this?

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 02:05 PM (wuv1c)

49 I just hope he's getting enough sleep at night!
Rumor has it he strolls in between 9:30-10am. I think he'll be alright on that end.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 02:05 PM (pLTLS)

50 OT
Kind of sad.

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2011 02:06 PM (OlN4e)

51 A Republican candidate for President should ask: For $400,000 per year
in salary, what are we actually getting? Is he actually doing his job?
Couldn't anyone do what Obama has done?

That makes it hard to argue that Obama is the root of all our ills; which is what a GOP candidate is going to have to.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 02:06 PM (HicGG)

Posted by: Jim R. at March 10, 2011 02:07 PM (1UPj9)

53 Wow, this is like a magical thread. It disappeared and now it's baaaack! That means skittle pooping unicorns must be right around the corner!

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:07 PM (ihSHD)

54
OT:
Imagine a hypothetical situation where Fox news received federal money and Rupert Murdoch is caught on tape disparaging Liberals,democrats,blacks etc…?
Would there even be a discussion about further funding?

Posted by: Truman North at March 10, 2011 02:07 PM (8ay4x)

55 2. This is quite ballsy for France. Right now aren't they tamping down a revolt in Ivory Coast?

No Blood for Chocolate!

50
Oil is still down?

Not anymore:

Oil rallies on Saudi news, erasing most of decline

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 02:08 PM (9hSKh)

56 Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2011 02:06 PM (OlN4e)

I saw that, that's why I had to link to the Daily Mail Story that talks about the blind guy who's seeing eye dog went blind after 6 years of service, and now they have a new guide dog that is leading both of them around.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:08 PM (ihSHD)

57 Not for nothing, but OIL is going parabolic. Saudi police open fire on protesters.

Posted by: Olliander at March 10, 2011 02:09 PM (6uiF7)

58 Rumor has it he strolls in between 9:30-10am. I think he'll be alright on that end.

But Lacey, he and Moochelle work out first thing in the a.m. So, don't be such a hater!

Posted by: Palid Stool at March 10, 2011 02:10 PM (ihSHD)

59 We the people of Brattleboro blame Bush for the current problems. President Obamo is trying fix these problems. Bush should arrested for his war crimes now !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 10, 2011 02:10 PM (By4wu)

60 Man I can't wait for the Michael Moore exposè of France's unilateral rush to war.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 10, 2011 02:10 PM (+lsX1)

61 France vs. Libya?

Well, I really don't know all the details here, but I think the French acted stupidly.

Posted by: President Superfly at March 10, 2011 02:10 PM (RkrQu)

62 Oil down a buck fifty?
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at March 10, 2011 02:09 PM (qIHlG)

Not after they hear about the Saudi police shooting demonstrators

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (0GFWk)

63 So, just who are the "rebels"? Native Libyans? Foreigners? Al Qaeda? Does anybody know? This sounds like a situation where I root for both sides to lose.

Posted by: Jim R. at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (1UPj9)

64 Rush playing Jesse Jackson clip right now. Geez, you can hardly understand the idiot.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (ihSHD)

65 If France goes down in flames over this, can we get their women?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (0GFWk)

66 The European powers have a more direct national interest in what happens in Libya. I have no problem with them handling this.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 10, 2011 02:12 PM (0IPsJ)

67 Obamo is trying fix these problems
Walll shit. And I thought all that "Hero Of The People" ever did was make speeches and play golf. Shut my mouth.

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2011 02:12 PM (OlN4e)

68 Not for nothing, but OIL is going parabolic.

Is this one of those "opposites day" things?

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 10, 2011 02:13 PM (+lsX1)

69 If France goes down in flames over this, can we get their women?
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (0GFWk)

Gillette stock goes waaaay up on this speculation...

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:13 PM (ihSHD)

70 It's really sad when France steps as America sits down on the bench....At the very end none the less.

If it weren't for for the fact that innocent people are going to be killed, (here and abroad,) due to this feckless administration; I'd be laughing my ass off at the incompetence.

Posted by: ATLDiver at March 10, 2011 02:13 PM (UwqBE)

71 No they have hairy armpits.
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at March 10, 2011 02:12 PM (qIHlG)
yeah but we have razors?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:13 PM (0GFWk)

72 Oops, Flavius beat me to it.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:13 PM (ihSHD)

73 Rush playing Jesse Jackson clip right now. Geez, you can hardly understand the idiot.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (ihSHD)
I don't think Jesse was speaking English. He was using English words, but, like Turkish and the Latin alphabet, he was clearly speaking a very different language.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:14 PM (G/MYk)

74 68 So, just who are the "rebels"? Native Libyans? Foreigners? Al Qaeda? Does anybody know? This sounds like a situation where I root for both sides to lose.
That's the safe bet whenever it's Moose-limb vs Moose-limb.

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2011 02:14 PM (OlN4e)

75 If the French want to bomb Lybia, let's be good NATO allies and offer to provide air tankers to refuel FRENCH airplanes. Any other NATO member that is a former North African colonial power is welcome to be refueled too.

I suspect the French will splutter indignantly at the suggestion that anyone other than the US provide the people to pull the trigger.

Posted by: Beregond at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (puDWs)

76 I'm living in Bizarro world.The world I used to know: Feckless French refuse to allow US planes to fly over their country on the way to bomb Libya.The world I now live in: French willing to bomb Qaddafi into the stone age while knee-jerk pacifist US President sits on his own thumbs.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman

The French are recognizing "the rebels" (whoever the hell they are) and will propose airstrikes when NATO convenes. There's no certainty that a single airplane will ever fly.
What it does mean is that Kdaffy and the thugs he's frantically renting see that one of their current oil buyers ( and supplier of Mirage jets) is making a safe quiet bet on the rebels outliving Kdaffy.
Kdaffy had better win and win soon, before France and other buyers decide to feed the rebels. Remember that actors like France and Britain aren't so bothered by stomping oil facilities. it makes for great oil development contract opportunites in the aftermath.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (R2fpr)

77 Not after they hear about the Saudi police shooting demonstrators

Saudi police shooting demonstrators is unlikely to impede the supply of oil. Unless their bodies start to clog pipelines or something.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (+lsX1)

78 Oh, yeah. Wasn't there a deal quite a while back where Obama wasn't exactly tough dealing with Russia w/r/t ports and, I think, Poland.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (xx42+)

79 "Couldn't anyone do what Obama has done?"
Over at PowerLine, Hinderacker makes a compelling case:
Let's Make Obama King

Posted by: speedster1 at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (v40Bj)

80 I suppose French women would be OK. Once you hung them up and hosed them off, then scraped them like a hog.

Posted by: maddogg at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (OlN4e)

81 One economy is dynamic and competitive and forced by global market
forces to make many adjustments and painful decisions -- such as layoffs
and cutbacks -- as it struggles to turn a profit.

I realize you're just carving out a potential attack route for the tone-deaf GOP leadership in the broadest of passes, but that statement needs some work.

Our economy is not a dynamic and competitive one. It is a restrained one, coddled by politicians in some corners, beaten and bound in others. No drilling permits in the Gulf, but GE receives a number of pet-project contracts and the biggest of the big Wall Street firms avoid any close scrutiny. Smaller firms are laden with yards of regulations, while those with close ties to DC are immune and are increasingly free from competition.

Second, any pass made at 'profits' is immediately going to turn on the Dem-dem's 'People not Profits' mode. And while profit is the true goal for all companies, it's not the phrase that pays in the public arena. Jobs, jobs, jobs. That's what is needed.

Posted by: goldbricker esq at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (S59+B)

82 It IS kind of interesting that France had withheld flyover rights the last time Q'Daffy was acting up ...

But, you still NEVER EVER EVER trust the French for more than one inch-microsecond. NEVER.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (G/MYk)

83 I prefer to think of the two parties as the Ant Party (work, save) and the Grasshopper Party (fiddle, have fun, take stuff from ants).

Posted by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate at March 10, 2011 02:16 PM (Hj9yW)

84 So Obama has almost as much spine as a Frenchman.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 10, 2011 02:17 PM (McG46)

85 A Republican candidate should ask if someone being paid $400,000 per year to do a job should maybe spend less time golfing and more time doing the job.

You get what you get when you elect a malignant narcissist man-child who's never had a real job in his life and has slid by on affirmative action and supposed good looks his entire life. Obama isn't particularly smart and I definintely think he is lazy, petulant, charmless, unable to laugh at himself, arrogant, cold, detached, easily bored,and a pathological liar.
Thanks a lot you idiot 52%!

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:17 PM (ihSHD)

86 Rush playing Jesse Jackson clip right now. Geez, you can hardly understand the idiot.
Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:11 PM (ihSHD)
I completely understood him.

Posted by: Patrick Kennedy, Congressperson Emeritus at March 10, 2011 02:17 PM (QKKT0)

87 The French haven't made one correct decision of import in the last 100 years.
Two words:
Rainbow. Warrior.
One of the few times I cheered them on.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2011 02:17 PM (B+qrE)

88 Really, shouldn't we call it the Producer Class vs the Handout Class?
http://tinyurl.com/4pn5mp4

Posted by: eddiebear at March 10, 2011 02:18 PM (z9dB/)

89 The French are recognizing "the
rebels" (whoever the hell they are)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (R2fpr)
The French are currently in talks with Ali G. Reports are that things are progressing well.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:18 PM (G/MYk)

90 70
If France goes down in flames over this, can we get their women?

Pass. Besides, if France goes down in flames, it'll undoubtedly arise as an Islamic "Republic".

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 02:18 PM (9hSKh)

91 "Couldn't anyone do what Obama has done?"
Over at PowerLine, Hinderacker makes a compelling case:
Let's Make Obama King

Yeah, but kings stay in office til they die. I'd rather not. He and his wife already are living like royalty off the taxpayer dime, and 4 years of that is too long already!

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:19 PM (ihSHD)

92 The French haven't made one correct decision of import in the last 100 years since Charlemagne.

Posted by: Cicero at March 10, 2011 02:19 PM (QKKT0)

93 BREAKING NEWS! The French surrender to Libyan rebels...

Posted by: The Haunted Pussy at March 10, 2011 02:19 PM (YVZlY)

94 Good on Sarkozy.
OT: Wisconsin Assembly debate live

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 10, 2011 02:20 PM (UO6+e)

95 I know that I should be angry that Present 0bama is refusing to take a position on Libya, but then I remember how the world always forces the US to take action and then turns around and attacks us for acting. Why shouldn't Europe have to do this once in a great while? Let them take responsibility for the situation and when it blows up in their face, we can sit back and mock them. Because seriously, this is going to bite everyone in the ass. A bunch of angry tribes are going to be left in charge when Gaddafi is ousted. And then what happens? Probably Afghanistan all over again.

Posted by: FPW at March 10, 2011 02:20 PM (TV27A)

96 Yeah, but kings stay in office til they die. I'd rather not. He and his wife already are living like royalty off the taxpayer dime, and 4 years of that is too long already!
How do you decide how long istoo long?

Posted by: Louis XVI at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (QKKT0)

97 The French are recognizing "the rebels" (whoever the hell they are)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (R2fpr)
The French are currently in talks with Ali G. Reports are that things are progressing well.
Posted by: iknowtheleft

Ah. And the French lived through Algeria and Indo China. Hell, they egged on Indian tribes quite successfully in the French Indian War. And they egged us on for that matter.All they need to do is to feed the rebels enough boom stuff and the rebels need to stay alive.
Kdaffy will eventually fall.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (R2fpr)

98 Bet Sarkozy wishes he had some of those invisible F-22s, instead of the Raphaels that cost almost as much, and have the radar signature of the UN building. Could get interesting if one of the leading Euroweenies gets a bloody nose, and they decide maybe this depending on Uncle Satan for defence isn't such a good idea after all, if he won't come when you need him just because you trash him the rest of the time.
Could this actually end up beingthe ultimatefluke - Obama doing the right thing because for once doing nothing, his core competency, was it?

Posted by: sherlock at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (N7uu0)

99 O/t, but Gov Walker's opponent in 2010 has an interesting take on the fleebagger vote
http://tinyurl.com/45phgtc

Posted by: eddiebear at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (z9dB/)

100 The French haven't made one correct decision of import in the last 100 years since Charlemagne. since bankrolling a nascent North American colonial rebellion.
Major historical quibble there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (B+qrE)

101 I'm confused as to whether I should consider this a "rush to war" or not.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 10, 2011 02:22 PM (EDSBe)

102 France shows more balls than us and has less oil exposure than us.

http://tinyurl.com/4zlckje

Barry, Bulls game is over, wake the fuck up.


Posted by: Kemp at March 10, 2011 02:22 PM (JpFM9)

103 I think that's one possible way to play 2012. I think another is economy,economy,economy.

Yours, of course, theoretically works even if the economy manages to improve significantly, where mine does not. On the other hand, if the economy is still in the crapper come '12, mine is more sure to work.

The downside to your part A argument is that there is a very credible style of leadership that involves "Hire the right people, and let them do what you hired them to do." Now, I know and you know that BHO hasn't been doing that, but his spin monkey in the media will claim it, and there may be enough people who believe it.

The downside to your part B argument is that without defining exactly who we're talking about, that leave the MBM free to spin it as class warfare (Tax-Takers: they must mean Welfare Recipients!! The Republicans hate poor people!), and if we define it too tightly, that group gets to claim victim status- and possibly rally sympathy votes to themselves and, by extension, Obama.

Which is not to say that your strategy wouldn't work, just that you have to be aware of potential down-sides to plan appropriately.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 02:22 PM (8y9MW)

104 "Rather, it's largely a fight between one middle class -- the middle class generating wealth -- and another middle class -- the middle class consuming the wealth the other generates."
INTRA-class warfare!Thanks, Ace for pointing this out - I had missed it.

Posted by: Dathi at March 10, 2011 02:23 PM (TBzKG)

105 Rather, it's largely a fight between one middle class -- the middle
class generating wealth -- and another middle class -- the middle class
consuming the wealth the other generates.

There goes erg's talking point down the tubes.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 10, 2011 02:24 PM (EDSBe)

106 O/t, but Gov Walker's opponent in 2010 has an interesting take on the fleebagger vote

You'd better believe if the shoe was on the other foot, and Republicans were the ones who fled the state to avoid voting on a bill they didn't agree with, the Democrats would have done the same thing, only it would have happened weeks ago.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:25 PM (ihSHD)

107 OT: The run I was on made Jagger and Richards look like droopy-eyed armless children.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at March 10, 2011 02:25 PM (McG46)

108 Saudi police shooting demonstrators is unlikely to impede the supply of oil. Unless their bodies start to clog pipelines or something.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 10, 2011 02:15 PM (+lsX1)
Right. The problem starts when they shoot back. Which will probably be by 3 PM EST.

Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (sOtz/)

109 OK I got admit I never went out with a french girl. Do they really not shave? Even to this day?
Ah my middle name is " Last to Know"

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (0GFWk)

110
The French haven't made one correct decision of import in the last 100 years since Charlemagne. since bankrolling a nascent North American colonial rebellion.

Major historical quibble there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2011 02:21 PM (B+qrE)

The French had Poincare around the turn of the 20th century. He was worth enough to justify French existence for a decade or so.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (G/MYk)

111 All of these cases illustrate that Obama really isn't bringing anything to the table. He is not contributing to the most important questions facing the country -- he does not offer ideas, or support for particular plans. He lets other people do the deciding, and then he embraces whatever consensus others have created.

You can't have a real ship without a figurehead, baby.

Posted by: HMS B. Hussein Obama at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (lwUmg)

112
RE: Tax-payers vs. Tax-consumers

It's a more basic than even this.

There are people who try to get through life via hard work and observing the golden rule.

There are others perfectly comfortable with taking other people's shit to serve their own purposes.

Whether they take your shit at the point of a gun in a dark alley or by pulling the lever for a democrat in a voting booth is a methodological difference. From a moral perspective, the behavior is identical.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (Pzf4N)

113 Barry, Bulls game is over, wake the fuck up.

Yes, but there's all the prep for the Blackhawks party at the WH. This is a very important deal as the Blackhawks are hockey players and this will definitelyprovide a great opportunityto stick it to a certain hockey mom in Alaska.

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 02:27 PM (ihSHD)

114 Let's Make Obama King
I suggest we make him King Charles I.

Posted by: garrett at March 10, 2011 02:27 PM (6//4D)

115 AFP reports that Sarkozy will propose "targeted airstrikes" when NATO meets.
Fuck that! I say we just start blowing shit up at random. Given enough ammo, we'll eventually settle the issue. We just have to be patient.
(And violent. Very, very violent...)

Posted by: Warthog at March 10, 2011 02:28 PM (WDySP)

116 All they need to
do is to feed the rebels enough boom stuff and the rebels need to stay
alive.Some mobile air-defense systems and anti-air missiles will go a long way to this end. The only good portion of Ghadaffi's military is his Air Force. Negate that, and you facilitate the end of Col Crazy's rule.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 02:28 PM (9hSKh)

117 All of these cases illustrate that Obama really isn't bringing
anything to the table. He is not contributing to the most important
questions facing the country -- he does not offer ideas, or support for
particular plans. He lets other people do the deciding, and then he
embraces whatever consensus others have created.

Obama is not nearly so innocuous. He always takes the anti-American position. Obama brings a lot of bad to the table. And retardation. Tons of retardation.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 10, 2011 02:28 PM (G/MYk)

118 Let's Make Obama King

I suggest we make him King Charles I.

Hear hear!

Posted by: Oliver Cromwell at March 10, 2011 02:29 PM (lwUmg)

119 OT: These female Democratic WI assembly members look like absolute hags. They are imploring their colleagues to support a measure to remove the Speaker. If the back--forth is any indication, there is no lost love between the two sides.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 10, 2011 02:29 PM (UO6+e)

120 OK I got admit I never went out with a french girl. Do they really not shave? Even to this day?

Ah my middle name is " Last to Know"

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 10, 2011 02:26 PM (0GFWk)
A French girl told me it wasn't true. Believe it or not, at least they realize it's something to deny.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 10, 2011 02:31 PM (McG46)

121 --Saudi police have opened fire at a rally in the kingdom's east in an apparent escalation of efforts to stop planned protests.--

Uh oh, time for another speech. Maybe I'll just bow to the Prince again. That ought to do it.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama on the cell phone, near the putting green at March 10, 2011 02:31 PM (lwUmg)

122 France taking the lead over the USA, while Obama holds sports parties and talks about bullying. WOW

Posted by: Dan at March 10, 2011 02:32 PM (mXBxH)

123 As for Obama, I'd love to hear all those points made-- I've heard a few of them made-- but I somehow doubt we're going to hear more of them until it's closer to primary season. Somehow it's only sporting to say such things in that way during that period of time.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 10, 2011 02:32 PM (UO6+e)

124 Michelle wouldn't like me to bully Gaddafi. Or the Saudis. Watch this putt. I'm winning.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama on the cell phone, near the putting green at March 10, 2011 02:33 PM (lwUmg)

125 OT: Wisconsin Assembly debate live
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 10, 2011 02:20 PM (UO6+e)
Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Anabel Chong at March 10, 2011 02:33 PM (XBM1t)

126 All they need to do is to feed the rebels enough boom stuff and the rebels need to stay alive.
Some mobile air-defense systems and anti-air missiles will go a long way to this end. The only good portion of Ghadaffi's military is his Air Force. Negate that, and you facilitate the end of Col Crazy's rule.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)

Another piece of the puzzle. What is Kdaffy's air force consist of? Mostly Mirages? This is a signal that he ain't getting any replacement airframes, ordnance or parts.If France is the number one supplier, Kdaffy AirForce know that they are screwed.

Unless some other actor who is within range decides to send in stuff (watch for Iran; if they have anything to send).

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:34 PM (R2fpr)

127 Clapper had stated his belief that the Qaddafi regime, in the long term would “prevail,” and also assessed China and Russia to be primary threats to the United States.

Graham told Cameron that he lacks confidence in Clapper’s understanding of his job, that President Obama should “repudiate” Clapper’s remarks, and that this is the third time Clapper has faltered in this way.

...

... Clapper has a “lack of situational awareness” and was sending the wrong message to Qaddafi and the people in the streets of Libya. He added that Clapper should know better.

Don' be bullyin' on my man Clapper. Tolerance, people.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama on the cell phone, near the putting green at March 10, 2011 02:35 PM (lwUmg)

128 The catchphrase that has already been used is Makers vs. Takers.

Posted by: Stirner at March 10, 2011 02:35 PM (nTjSs)

129 Snap your fingers, snap your neck......

Posted by: Prong at March 10, 2011 02:36 PM (UK9cE)

130 Ace says:
He did not lead; he delegated
Nope. You're too kind. delegation implies the agents are acting for him.
Obama abdicated - relinquished power.

Big diff - leaders delegate. pussies over their heads abdicate.

Posted by: Luke Duke at March 10, 2011 02:37 PM (P7rIP)

131 The word from the clubhouse is that Sarkozy is a better golfer than President Longshanks too.

Posted by: Fritz at March 10, 2011 02:41 PM (/8mBu)

132 Nope. You're too kind. delegation implies the agents are acting for him.Obama abdicated - relinquished power.

That's the wording part A needs to use. Or, perhaps, that he was "derelict in his duty." He was derelict during the Bailout, during OCare, and during every foreign crisis affecting the United States since BEFORE he came to power.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 02:41 PM (8y9MW)

133 Another piece of the puzzle. What is Kdaffy's air force consist of?
Mostly Mirages? This is a signal that he ain't getting any replacement
airframes, ordnance or parts.If France is the number one supplier,
Kdaffy AirForce know that they are screwed.

Mirages, some MiGs. I was flipping through the channels the other night and Anderson Cooper (180) was showing a list of what they thing Kaddafi still has. The list was larger than I expected, and there are reports that Kaddafi has been holding back his "elite" pilots for future strikes against the rebels.

Oh, and there were some reports the other day indicating that Kaddafi might be getting help from Syria (Michael Totten reported on this).

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 02:42 PM (9hSKh)

134 Ace says:He did not lead; he delegatedNope. You're too kind. delegation implies the agents are acting for him.Obama abdicated - relinquished power.Big diff - leaders delegate. pussies over their heads abdicate.
Posted by: Luke Duke
Obama is the mooching jerk who hung back during he group projects, and then made sure that his name was on the work.
He is the mooching jerk who hit the professors up with the stories for make up tests and extensions on assignments.
He is the snivelling machination that takes clear positions for the sole pupose of scoring the immediate gain (debate, news cycle) and then acting as though you are mad when you quote him (individual mandate).
He hung back here, and waited for one of Libya's biggest client's and closest destination of refugees act.
Rest assured, Obama will try to get his name on the project just before it's handed in.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:42 PM (R2fpr)

135 Sock change fail. Goodby Anabel.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 10, 2011 02:42 PM (XBM1t)

136 Another piece of the puzzle. What
is Kdaffy's air force consist of? Mostly Mirages? This is a signal that
he ain't getting any replacement airframes, ordnance or parts.If France
is the number one supplier, Kdaffy AirForce know that they are screwed.

Unless some other actor who is within range decides to send in stuff (watch for Iran; if they have anything to send).

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:34 PM (R2fpr)
They also have about 90 SU-22 jets.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 10, 2011 02:44 PM (7+pP9)

137 Nope. You're too kind. delegation implies the agents are acting for him.Obama abdicated - relinquished power.Big diff - leaders delegate. pussies over their heads abdicate.
Posted by: Luke Duke at March 10, 2011 02:37 PM (P7rIP)

I'm not in the crowd that thinks Dear Leader isinept. I think he'd been collaborating with most of the people in his regime long before he even started campaigning. When he became teh one, he appointed all of his henchmen to positions of power and then sat back and made sure no obstacles were put in their path. With a dem congress, it was easy peazy.

Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2011 02:44 PM (TmT4i)

138 Oh, and there were some reports the other day indicating that Kaddafi might be getting help from Syria (Michael Totten reported on this).
Posted by: Kratos

This isn't good. Can anything Syria has that would be of value to Kdaffy make it from Damascus to Lybia without tanking? If not, does Kdaffy still control a port? he still has Tripoli, correct?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:45 PM (R2fpr)

139 France is positioning itself for when the new government re-negotiates Libya's oil contracts.

It's hard to say, but it looks to me like the bulk of the rebels are Libyan government and military people. They seem vaguely sane; I think they'll be a step up from Kadaffi.

Posted by: sandy burger at March 10, 2011 02:46 PM (2XCxi)

140 Unless some other actor who is within range decides to send in stuff (watch for Iran; if they have anything to send).
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:34 PM (R2fpr) They also have about 90 SU-22 jets.
Posted by: Ed Anger
I wonder what his fuel stores are like. Does Libya refine anything? Or must they import JP-4?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 10, 2011 02:47 PM (R2fpr)

141

Looks like Libya had around 90 SU-22, now down to 39.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Air_Force

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 10, 2011 02:48 PM (7+pP9)

142 Barry is the Hindmost.

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 02:52 PM (GTbGH)

143 It's hard to say, but it looks to me like the bulk of the rebels are Libyan government and military people. They seem vaguely sane; I think they'll be a step up from Kadaffi.
Posted by: sandy burger at March 10, 2011 02:46 PM (2XCxi)

Could be. But I also have to remember they're still *cough* muslims *cough*.

Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2011 02:52 PM (TmT4i)

144 105
Bet Sarkozy wishes he had some of those invisible F-22s, instead of
the Raphaels that cost almost as much, and have the radar signature of
the UN building.

Nobody comes down on you like a F-22, bro

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at March 10, 2011 02:57 PM (vdfwz)

145 Honestly, I'm not convinced taking out Qaddafi will make things better. There is a very good possibility that it'll make things worse. I think that the rest of us should sit this one out.

Posted by: KG at March 10, 2011 02:58 PM (2k/Dg)

146 Bet Sarkozy wishes he had some of those invisible F-22s
We've got a couple hundred that we didn't build that are REALLY invisible.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2011 02:59 PM (B+qrE)

147 Barry is the Hindmost.
Ahh...Ringworld reference. Nice.
But isn't Soros the puppeteer?

Posted by: eleven at March 10, 2011 03:12 PM (7DB+a)

148 Realizing the Gaddafi is a scumbag, but also that the world is full of scumbags- what is the legitimate national interest being served by our involvement? Why the hell would we vote with the losers from NATO?

What about the French? Not that I give a fig, but under what authority are they now going to start bombing a sovereign country? I guess the Saudi's are next?

Posted by: Marcus at March 10, 2011 03:13 PM (CHrmZ)

149 Posted by: Marcus at March 10, 2011 03:13 PM (CHrmZ)

The "legetimate national interest" being served by us assisting the rebels (revolutionaries?) would be in the form of a quick resolution to the issue. Quicker resolution means stability back to the oil market more quickly.

As for the French, by recognizing the rebels as a government, they can claim they DON'T Recognize KDaffy's government anymore.

And, for the record, you don't need anyone's authority but your own to invade "a sovereign country." It's called war, and one country doesn't really have to get permission from another country, first. The only question is if you're tough enough to win.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 03:23 PM (8y9MW)

150 Barry has more important things to do than figure out what to do with Libya. Like basketball parties and hold non-bullying events at the White House. Now that's the important stuff

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 10, 2011 03:28 PM (1Jaio)

151 Except I don't think the rebels will usher in any era of stability in Lybia, so the case for our intervention is pretty thin...

Posted by: KG at March 10, 2011 03:28 PM (2k/Dg)

152 I've been to Paris.

Posted by: Zombie Adolph Hitler at March 10, 2011 03:40 PM (j5ex0)

153 Except I don't think the rebels will usher in any era of stability in Lybia, so the case for our intervention is pretty thin...

In the same way that if Saudi Arabia goes to shit on 'day of wrath' Friday, what side would we want to be on?

It's all sort of like watching the 'good old days' of the slow-motion Iran-Iraq war and trying to decide which side was better. I finally, after the first five years, decided on 'both'.

Posted by: Tyler Durden at March 10, 2011 03:45 PM (IhHdM)

154 Actually, I don't see how France supporting the Rebels is acting as a grown up. While Gaddafi is no friend to the USA, whoever replaces him will just be worse. If anything the USA should support Gaddafi (If only to try and keep some stability) but that's really kind of a hard thing to stomach.

The situation is a heads you lose vs. tails you lose sort of thing. Staying out of it seems the best thing to do.

Posted by: GhostShip at March 10, 2011 03:49 PM (kWn29)

155 I enjoyed the larger theme of tax consumers vs.tax payers. And agreed, it does need some work. But what is it, 40%+ in this country pay no taxes to speak of?
Yes, this theme may drive some productive government workers and some non- tax paying strivers who want to become more successful and get to the point where they need to pay taxes, into the arms of the Democrats out of anger.
Would be curious to know how many of those people there might be out there. I kinda make the assumption that virtually every government employee and person who does not pay taxes votes the straight Democrat ticket. But I really don't know if that is true or not.
The question is whether you would offset the potential loss of those people by gaining enough people who have traditionally opted for Dems, butwho would listen to this theme, and go "Wait a second, why am I pulling the wagon all the time while the riders complain?" The kind of people who probably have not really thought things out that well, but previously voted Democrat because liberal policies sound kind of nicer on paper, because Obama is "cool", because they don't want to be mocked by their hip friends and on TV, because they watch and get their news from Jon Stewart or Oprah, etc.
It has the potential of reaching a very large group of people that may just never have thought of things in this light before.
Well worth expanding on this topic, Ace.

Posted by: RM at March 10, 2011 03:49 PM (TRsME)

156 157
"The
"legetimate national interest" being served by us assisting the rebels
(revolutionaries?) would be in the form of a quick resolution to the
issue. Quicker resolution means stability back to the oil"

Yeah, I guess they have fully figured out who the "rebels" are and what the next government will look like. After all, the French have a great record on that kinda stuff. So I am certain it will be a friendly nest of Western loving, non-terrorist kiss-assess.

And what the hell is
"legetimate"(sic)? Is that a branch of the French Foreign Legion or something??

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159 "someone being paid $400,000 per year to do a job should maybe spend less time golfing and more time doing the job."

Well, frankly, I'd feel a lot better if Obama would promise to spend at least 90% of his waking hours between now and Jan 20, 2013 on the golf course -- I'd say 100%, but a man's gotta eat. As long as he's golfing, he's not writing new Executive Orders or pushing new legislation to mess up my life.

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160 ...and by French air strikes, they mean NATO authorizing US Navy air strikes.

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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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