Daniels: Appease Democrats, Drop Union Bill. UPDATE: Daniels Says, Legislators Running Away Is A "Perfectly Legitimate Part Of The Process"

I guess he really doesn't want to run for the GOP nomination

Gov. Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans should to drop the right-to-work bill that has brought the Indiana House to a standstill for two days and imperiled other measures.

Daniels told reporters this afternoon that he expects House Democrats will return to work if the bill dies. It would be unfortunate if other bills are caught up in the turmoil, he said.

He will not send out state police to corral the Democrats, the Republican governor said.

I said earlier that I thought this would help him but if he's going to declare a truce when he has an advantage, he's off the list.

When I first saw his 'truce' idea my reaction was he's not fundamentally serious about how politics works. I'm standing by that.

Thanks to Slu for the heads up.

MORE: Remember when Obama said you don't deal with hostage takers unless they are going to hurt the hostages? Well, Indiana Democrats took the state's democracy hostage and Daniels just said, "Hey please come back an hurt the hostages (the state's taxpayers) some more".

Absolutely pathetic. He just told them they now have a veto over everything he wants to get done.

UPDATE
: Can it get worse? Why yes, yes it can. From Daniels.

Just a couple of quick comments and thats really all Ill make. First of all, just to affirm, the activities of today are perfectly legitimate part of the process. Even the smallest minority and thats what weve heard from the last couple days - has every right to express the strength of its views and I salute those who do.

As the kids say, FAIL.

UPDATE 2: Daniels aides say he's not opposed to the bill, he just doesn't want to deal with it now.

DANIELS: My view on this is well known to the leadership on both sides, well-known to the public. I havent changed a single thing. I dont attempt to dictate the agenda. Im not in position to, really, of a separate and free-standing superior branch of government. And for that matter, Speaker [Bostwick] cant always dictate to his members when they have a strong point of view. For reasons Ive explained more than once, I think there was a better time and place to have this very important and legitimate issue raised.

Um, if not now, when? This is the moment. Democrats are literally on the run. Public attention is focused on this issue in a way it hasn't in years if not decades (if ever). And Mitch "Truce" Daniels wants to defer it?

Sorry, sometimes you have to seize the moment. It's called leadership.

Posted by: DrewM. at 04:07 PM



Comments

1 hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: elspeth at February 22, 2011 04:07 PM (0AkWH)

2 Gov. Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans should to
drop the right-to-work bill that has brought the Indiana House to a
standstill for two days and imperiled other measures.

He was on my list of potential candidates to support. He is history now. This is BS.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 04:07 PM (M9Ie6)

3 What an ass.

Posted by: rickl at February 22, 2011 04:09 PM (zoehZ)

4 And another one bites the dust. What is it with these guys and lack of balls? Did he ever consider that keeping state assemblies tied up might be a desirable alternative to more and more useless laws?

Jebus, it hasn't even gotten hot in IN and he's backing out. What a pussy.

Posted by: Alex #11 at February 22, 2011 04:09 PM (LcJmR)

5 Another useless politician.

Posted by: right at February 22, 2011 04:10 PM (AYDSU)

6 He will not send out state police to corral the Democrats, the Republican governor said.The Democrat minority has right to express its views, he added.
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Fortunately so do we. Adios, candidate Daniels.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 04:10 PM (D45hw)

7 In related news: The state of Wisconsin democrats have contacted the state of North Carolina to request their state motto: "First in Flight".

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at February 22, 2011 04:10 PM (pgfdJ)

8 Yeah, I have to say I can't support him after this.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 22, 2011 04:11 PM (NjYDy)

9 With friends like these...

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:11 PM (AZGON)

10 Gov. Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans should to drop the right-to-work bill
Wow. Neat trick. He struck out in one swing.

Posted by: MīceMū at February 22, 2011 04:11 PM (0q2P7)

11 WTF? And I don't mean the winning the future stuff

Posted by: USA at February 22, 2011 04:11 PM (YZISw)

12 The governor clung to his view that this is not the year to tackle right to work.
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Right-o. That year came and went long ago.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 04:11 PM (D45hw)

13 The Democrat minority has right to express its views, he added.

Might be nice if they did that in Madison.

You ant-eating pindick.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (AZGON)

14 Come on, he held out for two days! What more can you ask of a republican?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (t60fX)

15 DRAFT PENCE!

Honestly, I was willing to give Daniels the benefit of the doubt after several gaffes and missteps, but this is a bone-headed thing for him to say. He's off my list.

btw... DRAFT PENCE!

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (pW2o8)

16 Let's see how long it takes him to walk this one back.

Click.
tick tick tick tick tick tick

Posted by: MīceMū at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (0q2P7)

17 If you thought about this using game theory, he is really dumb. If Wisco killed their unions, Missou killed theirs, Indiana killed theirs, Illinois would be an island. But an island that would sink under the weight of the other states. It would have been Milwaukie, Indy KC and St. Louis gain; Chicago loss.

Daniels is running for Prez, that's why he backed down. He really misread the electorate. An Astroturf movement is not a populist movement.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (PNtNc)

18 He had the chance to reach for the brass ring, but he pu$$ed out...

throw him on to the dead-weight pile with Thune...

Posted by: phreshone at February 22, 2011 04:12 PM (T3vCe)

19 Drew, I'm standing by your standby.Daniels is breaking pathetic.

Posted by: journolist at February 22, 2011 04:13 PM (iHfo1)

20 Daniels told reporters this afternoon that he expects House Democrats will return to work if the bill dies.

Win-win --> lose-lose in one swell foop.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 04:13 PM (D45hw)

21 Repost - So what's he gonna do the next time they put up a bill the dems don't like and they run away? Let that one die too?

The dems really play the R's like a fiddle sometimes. They know exactly how they'll respond.

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 04:13 PM (VuLos)

22 Did you hear what the protesters say about the guy in Wisconsin? I don't want any of that.

Posted by: Guv Danielles at February 22, 2011 04:13 PM (PReJ3)

23 What a knob.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 22, 2011 04:13 PM (EL+OC)

24 It also undermines Walker

Posted by: requiredfield at February 22, 2011 04:14 PM (H3X4e)

25 Can we label him a RINO yet? Or is he still just a squish?

I get so confused sometimes.

Indiana, I had hope for you. Unfortunately, Gov. Daniels seems intent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 22, 2011 04:14 PM (8y9MW)

26
A shame, really.

The White House is there for the taking in 2012. All you need is the balls to take on Obama and the Democrats.

I'm afraid our nominee will be ball-less.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:14 PM (uFokq)

27 At least he's making it easy to cross him off the list.

Posted by: nickless at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (MMC8r)

28 Holy Mother of God....these stupid Republicans just.don't.get.it. I'm so very sick of their softness, their appeasement, their acquiescence. So very sick of it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (x9xik)

29 See ya, Daniels. I was your #1 supporter until now. So, who's left?

Posted by: Rich C at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (Vqcn4)

30 Unbelievable.

Absolutely unbelievable.

When one has one's opponent by the testicles one does NOT lean down and kiss them.

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (o+SC1)

31 This isn't really a truce. Daniels has been against this bill from the start. I think he is pushing them to drop it because he fully intends to veto it and doesn't want to be pushed to do that. Note to Indiana Reps...make him veto it.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (Q1lie)

32 what a puss.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (xdHzq)

33 Moderate

Posted by: AnabolicState at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (GzXYP)

34 Daniels told reporters this afternoon that he expects House Democrats will return to work if the bill dies. It would be unfortunate if other bills are caught up in the turmoil, he said.

I'd be more inclined to believe Daniels is "signaling" something if this reporter used the actual quote. Right now all we have is her summation, maybe it's accurate maybe it's not.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 22, 2011 04:15 PM (rplS1)

35 "You other idiots go ahead and fight, I'll be in the rear with the gear."
Mitch "Tiny Balls" Daniels

Posted by: mikeyslaw at February 22, 2011 04:16 PM (QMGr1)

36 Posted by: requiredfield at February 22, 2011 04:14 PM (H3X4e)

Maybe, but only a little, if so. If he (Walker) stands firm, though, it makes him seem that much more potent and (dare I say it?) Presidential. Not for '12 though. He's got too much to fix in WI.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 22, 2011 04:16 PM (8y9MW)

37 Rumor is that Daniels likes the taste of cock but even more so after taking it up the squeak hole.

Posted by: Bieber must die, for harvest at February 22, 2011 04:16 PM (F/4zf)

38 26
A shame, really.The White House is there for the taking in 2012. All you need is the balls to take on Obama and the Democrats.I'm afraid our nominee will be ball-less.

Paging Rep. Allen West and your gigantic set of balls.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 04:16 PM (UOM48)

39
Explain to me, Mitch, what you have to lose?

Besides a term in the White House, that is.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (uFokq)

40 He didn't even try to do the right thing.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (yfJ6g)

41 Daniels is running for Prez, that's why he backed down. He really misread the electorate. An Astroturf movement is not a populist movement.
Posted by: pointsnfigures

This. Mitch Daniels, recent graduate of the John McCain Finishing school for sure fire Presidential winners.

President John McCain: "I catered to the Dems and the MFM, and it made me the success that I am today! Now my success story can be yours".

Posted by: Pres. John McCain at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (R2fpr)

42 Gov. Mitch Daniels had warned his party late last year against pursuing so-called right to work legislation. While he agreed with it philosophically, he said it was a big issue that needed a state-wide debate and noted no Republican had run on this in the November election.

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Campaign is king? New and pressing issues don't arise after you get elected?

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (D45hw)

43 Ok the science is settled.
Republicans are *NOT* part of the subphylum Vertebrata.

Posted by: MīceMū at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (0q2P7)

44 We've got 'em right where we want 'em, boys! Retreat!

Posted by: General Mitch "Tiny balls" Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (ysCLj)

45 Turd

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 22, 2011 04:17 PM (0GF2j)

46 Oh. Well so much for that spine I was referring to earlier.
Don't let the GOP Presidential door hit ya on the way out.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (pLTLS)

47 What the fuck do you mean " I didn't win"!?!

Posted by: Pres. John McCain? at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (R2fpr)

48 Is this supposed to be some kind of good cop, bad cop ploy?? What an asshat! I hope thisguy doesn't play poker with his kids colledge tuition. What ever happened to negotiating from a position of strength? AND You NEVER go against the family!! What is wrong with these people?? MY God!
Great way to end an otherwise promising day in politics and the Caligrump situation.
Fuckstick.

Posted by: dananjcon at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (pr+up)

49 See now, everybody always wants Guv experience in their prez candidates...I say screw that, find someone with character and conservative values first. Experience is secondary to that.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (xdHzq)

50 This is just Daniels taking a public stand. Reports are he has been pushing Republican leaders privately to drop this for quite a while now.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (Q1lie)

51
You know what?

If this is the type of nominee we'll end up with, why not draft a freshman Congressman such as Allen West who is at least willing to take it to Obama?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (uFokq)

52 What a pathetic sack a shit.

Don't call us, we'll call you - and yes please feel free to hold your breath.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 22, 2011 04:19 PM (HBqDo)

53 Mitch Daniels is who I thought he was... a gigantic pussy!

Posted by: Denny Green at February 22, 2011 04:19 PM (bxvFd)

54 RINO squish.

Posted by: KB at February 22, 2011 04:19 PM (YeiuA)

55 This is just Daniels taking a public stand. Reports are he has been pushing Republican leaders privately to drop this for quite a while now.
Posted by: Rocks

Public or private, who cares? We've just learned that the combined debt of all levels of government matches the entire freaking economy. And he's going to side with the idiots who are fighting to be the last ones getting free drinks on RMS Titanic!?!

Shut the fuck up and row.

Posted by: Pres. John McCain? at February 22, 2011 04:20 PM (R2fpr)

56 Well I am officially off the Daniels bandwagon. I don't really understand this. Is there a free market guy running? Depressing.

Posted by: Spike at February 22, 2011 04:21 PM (wtnmC)

57 For someone who seems to want to put aside social issues in order to take the fight to dems on fiscal issues, he seems to be a squish. This is getting tough. Who the hell do we have left - Pawlenty?

Posted by: Rich C at February 22, 2011 04:21 PM (Vqcn4)

58
Is this supposed to be some kind of good cop, bad cop ploy??

I dunno what this guy's act is. But I'm starting to believe that a lot of Republicans get off on being "not like those *other* uncouth Republicans."

Daniels, like other Republicans, like to appear to be 'above the fray' just for the sake of their own ego.


Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:21 PM (uFokq)

59 Governor Daniels has been conspiring with the Speaker of the Indiana House to block any vote on the bill.



Sign the petition.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:21 PM (Q1lie)

60 Daniels is... out?

Daniels is out?

Daniels is OUT?

Posted by: ace reading the news on CNN at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (nj1bB)

61 I think mitch just went full fucktard.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (F+Y9Z)

62 Vichy douche.

Posted by: right at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (AYDSU)

63 Gov. Mitch Daniels had warned his party late last year against pursuing so-called right to work legislation.
Let me tell you what you can do with your warning, Bit--er, Mitch.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (XdlcF)

64 What 2012 Pres hopefuls have come out in support of Walker? Was this a poor question?


Posted by: Barbarian at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (EL+OC)

65 weak shit, man.

Mitch Daniels: I want a truce on EVERYthing!!!!

Posted by: ace at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (nj1bB)

66 And they wonder why the word 'electability' is greeted by laughter?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (GBXon)

67 My gawd, Daniels is making Lindsey Graham look like a figure of inflexible iron.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM (AZGON)

68 The last time a prolonged walk-out happened in the Indiana legislature was in the mid-1990s, when Republicans were in control and tried to draw new legislative district maps, eliminating a district that likely would have been a Democrat one, in the middle of the decade. Democrats won that standoff, staying away several days until Republicans dropped the plan.

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Let's negotiate with these Indiana Republicans.

Posted by: Kimg Jung-il at February 22, 2011 04:23 PM (D45hw)

69 Is there anyone left who's even thinking about running who hasn't already flubbed it so bad that they can't possibly win?

Posted by: Quicksilver Madness at February 22, 2011 04:23 PM (UPgTV)

70 >>>What 2012 Pres hopefuls have come out in support of Walker? Was this a poor question?

It's Paultardian in its insistence that we always talk about The Only Woman Who Can Save America (TM).

Posted by: ace at February 22, 2011 04:23 PM (nj1bB)

71
It's all part of Daniels' grand plan.

Him doing this gets him the union vote!

Right?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (uFokq)

72 What 2012 Pres hopefuls have come out in support of Walker?
Cain wuz there.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (XdlcF)

73 Make him veto the bill.

At which point if he's going to run for President he'd better start by switching parties.

Posted by: JEM at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (o+SC1)

74 Come on now he wan't going to run, not many have the guts to do it. Daniels folds. Thune folds, Huntsman playing like he has a good hand, but everyone knows it's a bad hand.

Posted by: lions at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (/vDzc)

75 Daddy/Daniels 2012!

Posted by: Meghan McMoron at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (F+Y9Z)

76 You know who this helps?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (AZGON)

77 What 2012 Pres hopefuls have come out in support of Walker? Was this a poor question?

Posted by: Barbarian at February 22, 2011 04:22 PM

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If you call her a "hopeful" . . .

/complete this sentence in any way you dare.

Posted by: Kimg Jung-il at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (D45hw)

78 DeMint 2012 is looking better and better every day.

Posted by: Rich C at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (Vqcn4)

79 Public or private, who cares?

Posted by: Pres. John McCain? at February 22, 2011 04:20 PM (R2fpr)

The reason I point that out is to show this is no truce or goodwill gesture on Daniels part. He has been privately and is now publicly standing against the bill.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (Q1lie)

80 Bit--er, Mitch.
I take back my correction. Bitch Daniels has quite a ring to it, I dare say.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 22, 2011 04:25 PM (XdlcF)

81 Off misspelled Nork sock.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 04:25 PM (D45hw)

82 Eh...when I knod my head..eh...you hit it.

Posted by: Mitch E. Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:25 PM (pr+up)

83 If Daniels ran WW2, we would've surrendered to the Japanese after nuking Nagasaki. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 22, 2011 04:25 PM (p05LM)

84 Mr. Truce doesn't disappoint.

Unless this is a subterfuge to draw the Democrats home where they can get a quorum on the bill.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 22, 2011 04:26 PM (TpXEI)

85
It's funny and so unexpected that a former Bush cabinet member would do exactly as George Bush would do in this case.


Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:26 PM (uFokq)

86 You wingnut knuckleheads just don't understand. Daniels and Huckabee in 2012... they're playing three dimensional chess. By telekinesis. You just wait and see.

Posted by: The GOP at February 22, 2011 04:26 PM (AZGON)

87 This is just Daniels taking a public stand. Reports are he has been pushing Republican leaders privately to drop this for quite a while now.
Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:18 PM (Q1lie)
...at just the right time to undermine a fellow republican in Wisconsin. I don't care how he personally feels, you don't shoot your fellow soldier in the back.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 22, 2011 04:26 PM (0GF2j)

88 The reason I point that out is to
show this is no truce or goodwill gesture on Daniels part. He has been
privately and is now publicly standing against the bill.


Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:24 PM (Q1lie)
It doesn't matter whether he's been against it all along. He shouldn't validate the D's walkout behavior.I hope they walk out on him now every 15 minutes.

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 04:26 PM (VuLos)

89 It's a fair point that this might mean he's more likely to run but the road is littered with candidates who looked beyond the nomination to the general too soon. I actually chose the phrase " doesn't want to run for the GOP nomination" for a reason.

I don't see how he has a prayer with this kind of capitulation.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 22, 2011 04:27 PM (HicGG)

90
Pfft, fuck that midget then.

Posted by: RarestRX at February 22, 2011 04:27 PM (/eIgc)

91
Playing the part of 2008's Chuck Hagel is...


Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at February 22, 2011 04:27 PM (uFokq)

92 Daniels should cancel any aspirationsfor the Oval office. Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: Jack at February 22, 2011 04:27 PM (VU0UV)

93


You just lost my vote dickhead.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at February 22, 2011 04:28 PM (bhVkQ)

94 I'm picturing Mitch Daniels exiting a DC-3 on a tarmac, in morning dress, waving a paper in the air.

"Peace in our time!"

Sorry, Godwin.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:28 PM (AZGON)

95 I'm of the thought Palin is unelectable, but JFC, I refuse to support a candidate who isn't right-to-work. At least her positions are predictable.

Posted by: Spike at February 22, 2011 04:28 PM (wtnmC)

96 Daniels really meant, "Drop Daniels."

Done.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 22, 2011 04:29 PM (N49h9)

97 It's Paultardian in its insistence that we always talk about The Only Woman Who Can Save America (TM).

Posted by: ace at February 22, 2011 04:23 PM (nj1bB)

Oh. Nevermind.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 22, 2011 04:29 PM (EL+OC)

98 >>>What 2012 Pres hopefuls have come out in support of Walker? Was this a poor question?





It's Paultardian in its insistence that we always talk about The Only Woman Who Can Save America (TM).<<Ace

Cain wuz there.<Mama AJ

There, was that so hard?

Posted by: Kerry at February 22, 2011 04:29 PM (a/VXa)

99 Mitch Daniels will save us!

NOT

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (ehKDD)

100 Well now wait a minute. I live in Indiana and Mitch Daniels has already laid off teachers and cut government spending and lowered property taxes...Here in Indiana {thanks largely to the decline in manufacturing jobs} unions have already lost a lot of their clout. For instance, I know a lot of coal miners in this state, and none of the ones I know are even in a union. They are not what they used to be.

So we are not in the same boat as the Wisconsin people.

I don't know that Daniels could ever win a general election or anything, but he has already done a lot of the things here in Indiana that some of these other Governors would be more than proud to accomplish in their own states.

Posted by: Terrye at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (bNnwW)

101 Fucking squish.

Posted by: I-wuz-too-hip-now-I'm-just-cynical at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (4sQwu)

102 I hope the idiot doesn't think that this will help him in SC. Nikki Haley just hired one of the meanest baddest ass Honey Badger union busting lawyers in Charleston for her cabinet.

People here cheered. Unions are not welcome in SC and neither are "friends of unions". He just sealed his fate here.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (M9Ie6)

103 I haven't heard mutch about Daniels before the last couple of months, since then everything I have heard has been very weak and disappointing. Indiana is good place for him to stay.

Posted by: robtr at February 22, 2011 04:32 PM (hVDig)

104 Mitch, I gave you a chance to be president AND YOU BLEW IT!

Posted by: Moe Tilden at February 22, 2011 04:32 PM (bxvFd)

105 So that's who Daniels is.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 22, 2011 04:32 PM (h3RXz)

106 The terrorists have won.

Posted by: Large McBighuge at February 22, 2011 04:32 PM (XYK5z)

107 Well, justproves that trying to show you actually have balls by riding a Harley ain't proving diddly. Daniels is not only short and balding, he's got no fucking balls.

Posted by: Steph at February 22, 2011 04:32 PM (AkdC5)

108 I'm starting to get apathetic about any of our republican candidates. Just let me know when the nomination is over with, so I can cast my vote against Obama and be done with it.

Posted by: Rich C at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (Vqcn4)

109 Well Daniels just did a nice job removing himself from my 2012 consideration list.

At least Cain supports Walker.

Posted by: Geronimo at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (dx6Sv)

110 As I said in a previous thread the teachers in michigan are supposed to be planning on protesting in Lansing today. My sister in law is a member of the MEA and I am not looking forward to seeing her, because I am fed up enough with these people that I can't discuss the issue with her without using profanity.

Michigan has been in the economic and jobs toilet for a f-cking decade and these people are protesting. Gawd forbid they should have to deal with the reality that everyone else has to deal with in this state.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (8jQbF)

111 Is the Indiana House going to do it? Personally I think they should tell Daniels to go pound sand and quit being a pussy.

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (oVQFe)

112 Well now wait a minute. I live in Indiana and Mitch
Daniels has already laid off teachers and cut government spending and
lowered property taxes...Here in Indiana {thanks largely to the decline
in manufacturing jobs} unions have already lost a lot of their clout.
For instance, I know a lot of coal miners in this state, and none of
the ones I know are even in a union. They are not what they used to be.So we are not in the same boat as the Wisconsin people.

Posted by: Terrye at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (bNnwW)
That makes it even worse on Daniels' part.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (N49h9)

113 And, no after years of watching Daniels in the state house, I have not gotten the impression that he is telling the Indiana Democrats that they can take anyone hostage.

Posted by: Terrye at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (bNnwW)

114 If you like Mitch Daniels you can keep Mitch Daniels.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (AZGON)

115 Fuck Daniels. I never trusted him from the start. His "truce" on social issues was a sign of weakness and this proves that even more. We are *never* going to get reform unless we hold firm NOW. We have momentum NOW, not later. He is fucking stupid asshole for not recognizing that. Fuck him for good.

Although that leaves us with nobody for 2012 really. Huck is just as weak. TPaw is OK but sort of inert. Palin would be a tough sell to independents and we shouldn't assume she would take on the unions either. Her husband is a union guy and she went after Exxon pretty hard in Alaska. I guess that leaves Christie for better or worse. At least he is articulate on these spending issues.

Posted by: Ken Royall at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (9zzk+)

116 Trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 22, 2011 04:34 PM (h3RXz)

117 Dude's uncomfortable with the concept of leadership or momentum, or winning maybe.
Get the hook and change his diaper, quickly please!

Posted by: ontherocks at February 22, 2011 04:34 PM (HBqDo)

118
Is the Indiana House going to do it? Personally I think they should tell Daniels to go pound sand and quit being a pussy.

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 04:33 PM (oVQFe)

I think they will. He's been trying to quash this for a awhile. If they were going to cave they would have done it already.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:34 PM (Q1lie)

119 Well, so much for that one. Next!

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 04:34 PM (5/yRG)

120 I mean I think the House will pass it, not drop it.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:35 PM (Q1lie)

121 He's not running, then.

Moving on.

Posted by: toby928 at February 22, 2011 04:35 PM (GTbGH)

122 You guys are really gonna cry when Palin comes out of the closet on global warming. Once again for 2012 there will be no conservative presidential candidate to vote for.

Posted by: Bieber must die, for harvest at February 22, 2011 04:35 PM (F/4zf)

123 Who are we going to be left with after all these idiots are finished shooting themselves in the foot?

Posted by: Quicksilver Madness at February 22, 2011 04:35 PM (UPgTV)

124 The Republican Party should replace the elephant with a white flag

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 22, 2011 04:36 PM (1Jaio)

125 Mr. Daniels, I know Honey Badger. I've narrated Honey Badger. You sir, are no Honey Badger.

Posted by: Honey Badger Video Narrator Guy at February 22, 2011 04:36 PM (9Pzy7)

126 Oy.

The only way Daniels can salvage this now is if he pulls a double cross on the fleebagger IN Dems.

Promise that right to work is off the table, get them back to the statehouse, and then once they have quorum ramrod the right to work bill through while they sit and scream.

((As if that would ever happen, but if it did, he would immediately be the R to beat for 2012))

Posted by: Stirner at February 22, 2011 04:36 PM (nTjSs)

127 And if I hear one more teacher on the nightly news blubbering about how much work they do after hours, I swear I will do an Elvis and shoot out my tv screen.

Of course they work after hours, they have the least work hours of ANY PROFESSION. A friend of mine substitute taught in middle school and was finished for the day at 2:30 in the afternoon! And these people are bitching about grading papers at home.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 22, 2011 04:36 PM (8jQbF)

128 Terrye, are public sector unions big in IN?

Posted by: Steph at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (AkdC5)

129 And he still has the coming AZ-style illegals bill to cringe over.

Posted by: toby928 at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (GTbGH)

130 My Native American Indian name is Tuck Too Tuck Tuck which means, He who fucks the chicken.

Posted by: Mitch E. Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (pr+up)

131 I'm crossing my fingers, hoping that the Daniels is playing a rope a dope, get the dems in there, have a quarom, and then the sergeant at arms bars the doors and makes them vote on the bill.

Posted by: headhunt23 at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (Q08aV)

132 Walker's still hanging in there....

In their latest attempt to force Dems back to the Senate, GOP leaders have voted to require their missing counterparts to pick up their paychecks, per diems or any expense check in person on the chamber floor.

Senate Org voted by paper ballot today 3-2 along party lines to impose the requirement on any senator absent without leave for two or more days.

The ballot also suspends direct deposit for any lawmaker absent and specifies the majority leader will only provide the checks to the missing senators and only on the Senate floor during a session day.

http://tinyurl.com/4kutlsw

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (VuLos)

133 In a stunning upset following the voluntary disqualification of all Republican Presidential candidates, President Obama has lost re-election to "Candidate to be named at a later date" who could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: News Report 2012 at February 22, 2011 04:38 PM (0q2P7)

134 Mitch = bitch

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 22, 2011 04:38 PM (pRKLf)

135 Never let a crisis go to your waist.

Posted by: Mitch "Boss Hug" Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:38 PM (N49h9)

136 Suck it Daniels. I actually thought you might be different. Whose turn to let us down next?

Posted by: Herman Cainiac at February 22, 2011 04:38 PM (F+Y9Z)

137 If Daniels has been tough on unions, he needs to get tougher. Like right-to-work tough. A decline in mfg. jobs is not a political victory, it's a coincidental loss in union power. And you know what? Lots of teachers would not have to have been laid off if the unions lost their extortionist stranglehold on the public purse. Put right-to-work in action and more people can find jobs... at lower pay, but at least a freaking job. Because no one can afford public union pay packages any longer.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:40 PM (AZGON)

138 The one piece of praise I'll have for Daniels -

He has shown us a little bit of courtesy by officially withdrawing from the 2012 primaries a year in advance.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 04:40 PM (bxvFd)

139 And with one sentence, Mitch Daniels ends his political career.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

Posted by: brian at February 22, 2011 04:41 PM (y05cf)

140 Daniels wasn't wearing a cap with ear flaps and holding an umbrella when he said this was he?

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:41 PM (Q1lie)

141 That's right Mitch. Ignite seething hatred in your base right before primary season. I bow to your genius political prowess.

Posted by: MīceMū at February 22, 2011 04:41 PM (0q2P7)

142 @132
Now that is more like it.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 04:41 PM (AZGON)

143 I call a truce on Daniels' national political aspirations.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at February 22, 2011 04:42 PM (W54Uh)

144 Paychecks withheld to the WI 14

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 22, 2011 04:43 PM (yfJ6g)

145 Depressingly, I'm not the least bit surprised when Republican politicians show an utter lack of spine.

Sometimes I'm envious of the Left. At least they have politicians who will fight tooth and nail to push their agenda instead the squishy little pansies that we on the Right have.

Posted by: GhostShip at February 22, 2011 04:44 PM (kWn29)

146 I'm crossing my fingers, hoping that the Daniels
is playing a rope a dope,
Posted by: headhunt23 at February 22, 2011 04:37 PM (Q08aV)
Well ... he's got half of it down pat.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 22, 2011 04:44 PM (N49h9)

147 I'm guessing: All dope, no rope.

Posted by: right at February 22, 2011 04:46 PM (AYDSU)

148 Yeah, but the letterhead I signed my surrender on is suh-weet!

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:46 PM (W54Uh)

149 Mitch Daniels Quaterback:

2:00 minutes to economic collapse.
We make an epic defensive hold and get the ball on our own goal line.
We need to score three times just to get the game into overtime.
He wants to run the ball because passing is too risky.

Posted by: MīceMū at February 22, 2011 04:47 PM (0q2P7)

150 I didn't care for the guy much any way. That being said, what good is it to win the vote of the people and have the Democrats say FU, we don't care. They just take off to a "friendly" State with a Democrat Gov. and say "screw you" people, we lost but we don't care, we'll stop all legislation by the Republicans. Makes me boiling mad.

Posted by: Donna at February 22, 2011 04:47 PM (DhK9/)

151 @94. Hey, don't blame the DC-3. Chamberlain flew in a Lockheed.

Too bad he didn't have Amelia for a pilot.

Posted by: comatus at February 22, 2011 04:48 PM (W5ilH)

152 Wait until people find out that Daniels has training wheels on his Harley. It's in the next Wikileaks installment.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 22, 2011 04:48 PM (N49h9)

153 I'm also going to enact a program to help children with speech development issues. I've noticed a lot of my friends on the other side of the aisle referring to me as "Bitch." It's a tragedy.

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at February 22, 2011 04:48 PM (W54Uh)

154 Paychecks withheld to the WI 14
See the link in the comments thereto Am Spec:
Former Vermont Governor and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, a one-time presidential candidate, is the founder of a group that by mid-day of President's Day had raised over $100,000 in a slush fund to "back" the on-the-lam Wisconsin Democratic State Senators.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (XdlcF)

155 Fail!

Posted by: Adlib at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (k/CNO)

156 Thune bowed out. Daniels pulled this and Huntsman is writing poetry on his PAC website. Did they all watch the same videotape together or something?

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (Q1lie)

157 149
Mitch Daniels Quaterback:2:00 minutes to economic collapse.We make an epic defensive hold and get the ball on our own goal line.We need to score three times just to get the game into overtime.He wants to run the ball because passing is too risky.

You forgot to add "Spend time between plays puking your guts out on the field." That's why I'm where I'm at today!

*looks at Dan Snyder and Mike Shanahan, starts bawling*

Posted by: Donovan McNabb at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (bxvFd)

158 I'm not a die-hard "purity" guy, but this just goes to show that when someone goes out of his way to be "not a social conservative," then his conservatism is suspect on all issues.

Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (YpNQQ)

159 Expect some Republicans in the state legislature to show some actual balls, give Daniels the big middle finger, and soar in the polls. Daniels cannot control this backlash against the gold-plated public union leeches.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at February 22, 2011 04:51 PM (kTTUz)

160 154
Paychecks withheld to the WI 14< WI the to withheld>
See the link in the comments thereto Am Spec:
Former Vermont Governor and Democratic National Committee
Chairman Howard Dean, a one-time presidential candidate, is the founder
of a group that by mid-day of President's Day had raised over $100,000
in a slush fund to "back" the on-the-lam Wisconsin Democratic State
Senators.
That money will only go so far, There's a $6000 limit per organization per candidate, according to WI law.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 04:51 PM (bxvFd)

161 and Huntsman is writing poetry on his PAC website.

Posted by: Rocks at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (Q1lie)
That doesn't even matter. Huntsman was out the day he took that idiotic position shilling for Barky in China. That had to be one of the dumbest political moves, ever. He was burnt toast at that point.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 22, 2011 04:52 PM (N49h9)

162 I'm not a die-hard "purity" guy, but this just goes
to show that when someone goes out of his way to be "not a social
conservative," then his conservatism is suspect on all issues.


Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (YpNQQ)
Caving in becomes a habit, even when nobody is pushing.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:52 PM (z1N6a)

163 Well now wait a minute. I live in Indiana and Mitch Daniels has already laid off teachers and cut government spending and lowered property taxes...Here in Indiana {thanks largely to the decline in manufacturing jobs} unions have already lost a lot of their clout. For instance, I know a lot of coal miners in this state, and none of the ones I know are even in a union. They are not what they used to be.So we are not in the same boat as the Wisconsin people.
Posted by: Terrye at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (bNnwW)
Well good for them for not being in the Union. However it sounds like they are still paying dues to the unions even though they aren't members. Now does that sound fair to you? The bill is supposed to stop that

Posted by: buzzion at February 22, 2011 04:52 PM (oVQFe)

164
Paychecks withheld to the WI 14< WI the to withheld>

See the link in the comments thereto Am Spec:

Former Vermont Governor and Democratic National Committee
Chairman Howard Dean, a one-time presidential candidate, is the founder
of a group that by mid-day of President's Day had raised over $100,000
in a slush fund to "back" the on-the-lam Wisconsin Democratic State
Senators.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (XdlcF)
Probably in one donation

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:52 PM (z1N6a)

165
That money will only go so far, There's a $6000 limit per organization per candidate, according to WI law.


Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 04:51 PM (bxvFd)
--How can they get even that $6,000 legally when they're not even campaigning?

Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2011 04:54 PM (YpNQQ)

166 Personally, I think this is time for ridicule as a weapon instead of anger. Mock the shit out of them for running like cockroaches when the light is turned on.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:54 PM (z1N6a)

167 Post updated. In reference to the Dems on the lam, "First of all, just to affirm, the activities of today are perfectly legitimate part of the process.

Posted by: davidt at February 22, 2011 04:54 PM (9Pzy7)

168
That money will only go so far, There's a $6000 limit per organization per candidate, according to WI law.


Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 04:51 PM (bxvFd)
--How can they get even that $6,000 legally when they're not even campaigning?


Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2011 04:54 PM (YpNQQ)
legally is a concept foreign to Democratic politicians.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:55 PM (z1N6a)

169 Donating for run-away Dem senators is patriotic! I have 700 billion to waste!

Posted by: Arackbay Boamay at February 22, 2011 04:55 PM (dx6Sv)

170 Donating for run-away Dem senators is patriotic! I have 700 billion to waste!


Posted by: Arackbay Boamay at February 22, 2011 04:55 PM (dx6Sv)
Well it is stimulating the Hotel Industry in border towns in Illinois. So its better than most payouts he made.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:56 PM (z1N6a)

171 Apparently he's planning to launch his candidacy on an episode of The Unexplained.

Yeah, that's it.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 22, 2011 04:57 PM (HBqDo)

172 Bitch Manheels, I hope your state never forgets you.

Posted by: Neck Beard at February 22, 2011 04:58 PM (lT0LC)

173 I'm guessing this officially one of those 'grey areas' now, right?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord at February 22, 2011 04:59 PM (GBXon)

174 Anyone else feeling boxed in?

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 04:59 PM (VuLos)

175 Maybe.....it's a trap!

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 22, 2011 05:00 PM (t60fX)

176 This damn remote mind control shit works!

Posted by: Barky at February 22, 2011 05:00 PM (EL+OC)

177 "the activities of today are perfectly legitimate part of the process"




I'll give Daniels this: He's not ashamed of being a pussy.

Posted by: right at February 22, 2011 05:01 PM (AYDSU)

178 Regarding Daniels, count me out too, and I was taking a good look at him. The upside is, it gives us all an impromptu vetting process. For either now or later, Walker Christie are looking good - I know that they may not be running but there might possibly be life after 2012. Maybe.
I was not a Palin fan, but her stock is rising with me. Because, you know, I saw Mad Max and she might be the one who can walk outta the cage.
Anyway, a hard ass is what we need if we're gonna live through this, and Walker and Palin and Christie are the hard-asses right now.

Posted by: bad bob at February 22, 2011 05:01 PM (6DLda)

179 Will NRO double down on Daniels now?

Posted by: ed at February 22, 2011 05:05 PM (Urhve)

180 superior branch of government.
Does Indiana hold the executive branch as superior, or is this guy just doubling down on dumbass?

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 05:06 PM (IsLT6)

181 Palin or bust.
Fuck it. Daniels just converted me into a Palinista.
That chick will fight. I don't care if it works. Better to die with her than live with these contemptible pussies.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 05:08 PM (IsLT6)

182 Lugar Gets First Primary Challenger

One - Something's got to give
Two - Something's got to give
Three - Something's got to give
Now

Posted by: toby928 at February 22, 2011 05:08 PM (GTbGH)

183 The Indiana Republicans have Clubber Lang on the ropes! Left to the chin!Right cross! Uppercut!
Lang is wobbling! He's clutching and stumbling! One more shot and he's down!
And .... The Republican cornerman, Mitch Daniels throws in the towell! The fight is over! Clubber Lang wins!

Posted by: Warden at February 22, 2011 05:10 PM (Fxhmn)

184 Just another lying opportunistic marshmallow squish. Apparently, he gives great speeches, but it seems to end there. Which, as far as I'm concerned, is not much different than saying he gives great head.

Bah! I'll never vote for him, unless the absolute only alternative is Obama 2. Then I'll have four or five stiff drinks and then very reluctantly pull the handle.

Guess we're arrived at the political equivalent of the television "LOP" concept, which says people will watch the least objectionable program, but will still watch. (Not me; I can read.)

The Republican Motto: We suck 2 % less than Democrats.

Posted by: GaryS at February 22, 2011 05:10 PM (WFVmk)

185 Told ya. Beta male. So is Thune. So is Pawlenty.

Posted by: texette at February 22, 2011 05:12 PM (S/asU)

186 At a juncture of near critical mass politically and economically, and momentum seemingly with us, we have Gov. Oblivious of Indiana walking around with his fly open dispensing advice on proper surrender.



Posted by: ontherocks at February 22, 2011 05:12 PM (HBqDo)

187
superior branch of government.

Does Indiana hold the executive branch as superior, or is this guy just doubling down on dumbass?

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 05:06 PM (IsLT6)
In the middle of the Civil War, Indiana's Democrats won a majority and were looking forward to flexing their muscles. The Republicans didn't show up, there was no quorum and the Dems went home. The GOP governor, Oliver Morton, got money to run the state from the War Department and the state was a pseudo dictatorship until the next election.So maybe he just doesn't want to throw Oliver Morton under the bus. But that's no excuse not to mock them for running off and hiding like a bunch of wusses.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 05:13 PM (z1N6a)

188 The Republicans didn't show up, there was no quorum and the Dems went home. The GOP governor, Oliver Morton, got money to run the state from the War Department and the state was a pseudo dictatorship until the next election.
This makes the executive a "superior branch" how?
Because it's penchant toward tyranny gets shit done?

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 05:15 PM (IsLT6)

189 182 I love that song -- and it is pretty apropos right about now.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 05:16 PM (5/yRG)

190 Besides... he DID just throw Morton under the bus.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 05:16 PM (IsLT6)

191 Guess this means there won't be a bounty on those on the lam legislators huh?

Shit.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 05:19 PM (5/yRG)

192 What a clusterfark. This emboldens the dems and sets a dangerous precedent to the democratic process. It appears that mob rule now trumps elections.

Posted by: ICBM at February 22, 2011 05:19 PM (wkCNB)

193 Daniels just killed his POTUS run.

Posted by: jukin at February 22, 2011 05:20 PM (vkkNZ)

194 if he's going to declare a truce when he has an advantage, he's off the list.

Damn. I was going to support him, but this is a fatal miscalculation. I can't believe he was dumb enough to do this.

Posted by: pep at February 22, 2011 05:22 PM (P18+/)

195 amazing, i spent the last week shouting down fellow union members about the rightness of Mitch's stance, for the good of the fiscal future of America.
way to stand by FellowNew Republican Mitch. I feel like a sucker.

Posted by: willow at February 22, 2011 05:23 PM (h+qn8)

196 Knew the guy was spineless long before this point, welcome to the party pals!

Posted by: gdonovan at February 22, 2011 05:23 PM (KmTkX)

197 Gov. Assistant *To The* Grocery Store Manager Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans parents should to drop the right-to-work bill no/ignore tantrums rule that has brought the Indiana House checkout lines to a standstill for two days and imperiled other measures.
Daniels told reporters this afternoon that he expects House Democrats preschoolers and toddlers will return to work stop throwing checkout line tantrums if the bill dies parents would just buy them all the candy and toysthey demanded. It would be unfortunate if other bills common sense disciplinary measures are caught up in the turmoil, he said.
He will not send out state police Nanny 911 to corral the Democrats rugrats, crumbcrunchers, and anklebiters into "naughty chairs", the Republican governor namby-pampy land dwelling Assistant *To The* Grocery Store Manager said.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 22, 2011 05:24 PM (XBM1t)

198 Daniels is absolutely, positively deleted from my short list, which is a VERY short list. I am totally sick and tired of apologizing and compromising with total idiots who claim to be on my side. I want out of the fire, and all I see is frying pan. Daniels has now proven, 10 times over, that he has no idea of what Democrats are trying to do. Yet another idiot who thinks an honest debate is going on. Fuck him to Fuckland.

Father forgive me, but Andrew Cuomo is starting to look good.

Posted by: Randall Hoven at February 22, 2011 05:28 PM (goI7h)

199 It was going to be hard for Daniels to win running a libertarian campaign. And now he just gave us libertarians the finger.

Posted by: Spike at February 22, 2011 05:33 PM (WLxeI)

200 Posted by: Terrye at February 22, 2011 04:31 PM (bNnwW)
He lowered property taxes? By sending income taxes back to municipalities? Don't you get the ideabehindsmall government?
No, WI isn't in the same boat, their's is still upright. Their homes still have paint on them.
IN has the 3rd most under-funded pension system in the nation. One half of all teachers in the rust-belt are boomers.
Give it up, Mitchie's man card is cancelled. He can't even get a job in the next admin.

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 22, 2011 05:33 PM (/g2vP)

201 181 - right where I'm at. Daniels, the Sta-Puff man, was a great wake-up call for me. No balls, at all. And we're gonna need conservatives with giant brass ones (or ovaries for that matter) to fight these bastards on their own terms.
Rush was saying today that no matter what they say it's all about the money and the power. And the Marxists will fight to the bitter end for it.
So we gotta have our own with major game on, cause their won't be any compromise.
Neville Chamberlain fuckstick antics won't get it any more.
Palin/Walker '12 , or some combination thereof. No "nuanced statesman" is gonna brawl with these bastards.

Posted by: bad bob at February 22, 2011 05:34 PM (6DLda)

202 162
I'm not a die-hard "purity" guy, but this just goes
to show that when someone goes out of his way to be "not a social
conservative," then his conservatism is suspect on all issues.


Posted by: logprof at February 22, 2011 04:49 PM (YpNQQ)
Caving in becomes a habit, even when nobody is pushing.


Posted by: Oldcat at February 22, 2011 04:52 PM (z1N6a)
+1 and +1Here's what gets me, this makes no political sense. He doesn't need support of unions. He's a (putative) Republican. They will hate him and try to destroy him no matter what he does.Who the hell is he trying to please?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 05:41 PM (T0NGe)

203 Dear Mitch,
Regarding you're presidential aspirations-
It was all there, black and white, clear as crystal! Now.. you get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!

Posted by: jjshaka at February 22, 2011 05:42 PM (JtwlI)

204 I liked Daniels but no longer. Refusing to do your democratically elected duty is not a legitimate part of the process. I'll vote third party if this tool wins the nomination.

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at February 22, 2011 05:42 PM (YhZFe)

205 I'll give Daniels this: He's not ashamed of being a pussy.
thank you for the laugh, at least I got a chuckle out of this pinhead betrayal.
Mitch Daniels is... weak .

Posted by: Marla at February 22, 2011 05:42 PM (kD8Fh)

206 Who the hell is he trying to please?

The establishment GOP, whom he thinks will push him through a brokered convention via back-room arm-twisting.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 05:43 PM (bxvFd)

207 Isn't Daniels doing the equivalent of negotiating with terrorists?

My, my. We haven't seen the MSM use THAT turn of phrase to describe what is happening in WI and IN, have we?

Posted by: blindside at February 22, 2011 05:50 PM (x7g7t)

208 Never was impressed with him, now I am solidly done with him.

Posted by: UncleZeb at February 22, 2011 05:56 PM (8Tc2d)

209 Thank you, Mitch Daniels, for reminding me why I fucking hate the Republican Party with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

Posted by: DocJ at February 22, 2011 05:57 PM (AWzOz)

210 206
Who the hell is he trying to please?

The establishment GOP, whom he thinks will push him through a brokered convention via back-room arm-twisting.


Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 22, 2011 05:43 PM (bxvFd)
I don't buy it. Look, I understand squishiness. The path of least resistance. That makes sense. But the establishment GOP is not invested in public sector unions, with the possible exception of police unions. As Walker showed, you can cut out an exemption for them.The AZ-style immigration bill: That I understand. It's tied up in the race thing and easy to demagogue, and makes getting a housekeeper at slave wages much more expensive, but this union thing makes no sense politically.Besides, there are a number of establishment-friendly guys running this year. Daniels wouldn't be the first one on the list.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 06:02 PM (T0NGe)

211 Dear Governor Dumbass Daniels,

I wrote you off when you doubled down on stupid, reaffirming your 'truce.' I figured you were too obtuse to understand that no matter what, the Democrats will thank you for your truce, and continue right on. Say, MFM, you will play defunding Planned Parenthood as a fiscal issue and not a social issue, right? Smartest-man-in-the-room Daniels thinks so! And now this? Ugh. Hey Dumbass Daniels, in addition to not understanding how the political world works, how the Democrats or the MFM (BIRM) will honor their side of a 'truce', you now neuter your self!! It's called "the bully pulpit" you use it to drive debate and move the public to your side. It's effective.

You need a foot in your backside.

Thanks for listening, Dumbass.

Posted by: Darin H at February 22, 2011 06:04 PM (aaNej)

212 I didn't think it was possible for any other politician to give Obama a run for the 'Tone Deaf' King title, but you gotta hand it to Mitch, he came out of left field (pun intended) to give Prez Peace-Prize some competition.

Posted by: hughie at February 22, 2011 06:09 PM (HFscI)

213 When the going gets tough, RINOs like Daniels cave.

Posted by: Cooter at February 22, 2011 06:13 PM (PV82J)

214 Of course hiding in another state is legitimate. Wish our guys had worked this hard to prevent Obamacare. Anyway, the move reinforces the importance of state jurisdiction. The same argument we want to use to roll back commerce clause overreach by the Feds.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at February 22, 2011 06:18 PM (vPAOp)

215 Is there any undiscovered land left on the globe where we can just go start a new country?

Posted by: sickened at February 22, 2011 06:19 PM (2EsNb)

216 Hey he gave a good speech at CPAC.... Wasn't that enough for president.?

LOL RINOs are fleeing as well.

Posted by: tarpon at February 22, 2011 06:20 PM (g0QB8)

217 MITCH DANIELS: I *am* Governor Daniels! And I see a wholeparty of fellow conservatives,about to sweep away part of the forcesof tyranny. You've come as free men and conservatives... and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you join me in capitulation?
VOTER:Surrender? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!No, we will press on! And we willwin!
MD: Aye,press onand you may prevail. Surrender, and you'll be hailed as a "moderate" in the media... at least for a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our esteemed colleagues on the Leftthat they may take our lives, they may destroy our nation, they may flout our laws, they may shatter our economy, they may debase our currency, they may open our borders, they may corrupt our culture, they may enslave us in debt, but they'll never take... our right to strike shockingly one-sided deals that amount to a complete abandonment of our positions!!!!!!
VOTERS: Christ, again with this bullshit?
MDon't rock the boat!!! Don't make waves!!!! Collegiality forever!!!!!

Posted by: Mitch "Braveheart" Daniels at February 22, 2011 06:23 PM (xy9wk)

218
We need to send Mike Castle to have a little talk with this Daniels chump. Taht oughta set him straight.

Posted by: sartana at February 22, 2011 06:23 PM (+fNcw)

219 Mitch "No Hill to Die On" Daniels,
you can just shorten it to "No Hill" Daniels.

no thanks nescessary, it's my civic responsiblity to mock him.

Posted by: The Elite at February 22, 2011 06:25 PM (ehKDD)

220 Down goes Fraiser! Daniels, Down goes Fraiser! Daniels, Down goes Fraiser Daniels!!

Posted by: Howard Cosell at February 22, 2011 06:25 PM (O/onO)

221 But George Will supports him! lol

Posted by: Dan at February 22, 2011 06:26 PM (mXBxH)

222 sock puppet be gone

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 22, 2011 06:26 PM (ehKDD)

223 But I thought you said that Palin was the quitter?

I'm stunned. Absolutely stunned. I never ever thought that this water carrier for the holy rino empire and Ely Lilly bag man would ever squish under pressure, much less before there was even any pressure.

It just goes to show ya, that even rino squishes can wear flannel shirts and ride motorcycles.


Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at February 22, 2011 06:32 PM (ZTn9N)

224 Washington should have surrendered at Yorktown.

Posted by: Mitch "The Brave" Daniels at February 22, 2011 06:36 PM (N49h9)

225 For reasons Ive explained more than once, I think there was a better time and place to have this very important and legitimate issue raised

Fuck off, you fucking coward. Not only are you a big, fat pussy coward on this issue, you are also too cowardly to own up to your cowardly cowardice.

Posted by: Warden at February 22, 2011 06:36 PM (HzhBE)

226 Republicans
The Facepalm Party

Posted by: Doc! at February 22, 2011 06:39 PM (jGXQI)

227 Even the smallest minority, and thats what weve heard from in the
last couple days, has every right to express the strength of its views
and I salute those who did.


I trust that peoples conscious imaginations will bring them
back to work and I choose to believe that our friends in the minority
will, having made their point, will come back and do their doodie.

Posted by: Mitch "the Brave" Daniels at February 22, 2011 06:40 PM (N49h9)

228 MD: Good Dispatch Rider, what news from the line?
DR: Well, we fired our guns, but the British kept a-comin', 'though there wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago. We fired once more, and they began a-runnin', down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
MD: Pray continue, good sir...
DR: They ran through the bushes, and they ran through the brambles, and they ran through places that a rabbit couldn't go! They ran so fast even hounds couldn't catch 'em. Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
MD: *nods solemly*
*removes sword from belt*
MD: Pray deliver this to the British commander and inquire what terms he will accept for our surrender.
MD: *shouting* Trail arms, men! Trail arms! The day is lost!!!
DR: *commits seppuku with Daniels' sword*

Posted by: Supreme Commander Mitch Daniels at the Battle of New Orleans at February 22, 2011 06:43 PM (xy9wk)

229 What a coward.
Let's compare.
1) A Republican governor in a historically liberal state is willing to fight the Democrats for an ambitious bill.
2) A Republican governor in one of the most reliably Republican states is unwilling to fight the Democrats for a bill not 1/10 as ambitious.

Posted by: Jingo at February 22, 2011 06:45 PM (JlBmQ)

230 My God! They just raised the flag on Suribachi!
Quick! Signal the landing craft to go in and start the evacuation!!!!

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at Iwo Jima at February 22, 2011 06:46 PM (xy9wk)

231 Yeah his sorry ass is history. We need a damn hard ass Honey Badger candidate. A candidate who is so damn mean that the Muzzie womens will tell horror stories to their children to scare them when they are being bad.

What we don't need is another wimp ass MF who will apologize to them like barky the bowing turd.

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 06:51 PM (M9Ie6)

232 My that was quick, Mitch.
Just so you're clear, 'foreplay' generally involves touching, icky though it be.
No, there won't be a next time. Playby yourself.

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 22, 2011 06:53 PM (/g2vP)

233 Drew, you ignorant slut. Sorry, but I couldn't resist the SNL throwback.

Anyhoo, you're wrong here, again, about Mitch Daniels. He's as right as rain that legilators cutting and running is part of the process. It's a glorious, creative part and I salute them

However, another part of that process is for voters to look upon them as the assholes they are. And toss them out. Again, my salute.

Dainels' truce on social issues is also dead on. What, Drew, we should be on the streets about abortion right now, with the economic walls around us falling in great chunks?

Mitch is showing true leadership. And if you don't agee, you're an ignorant slut.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 22, 2011 07:01 PM (6SIms)

234 Have I mentioned that my favorite band is Cheap Trick?
I'm sure you'll never guess my favorite song of theirs...

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at February 22, 2011 07:03 PM (xy9wk)

235 Just read through all the comments (well, skimmed) and I'm happy to see you're all as ignorant sluttish as Drew. You guys want a real man, an alpha male, because you're all a bunch of pussies who sit around posting alpha male messages on web sites.

Well, I got news for you: Daniels is exhibiting the very traits you claim to love. He's governing. In case you haven't learned this yet, governing involves all sides.

Really, you're all a bunch of Obamites in reverse: "I won. I'll do what the hell I want."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at February 22, 2011 07:05 PM (6SIms)

236 GOV. MITCHELL E. DANIELS, JR.
2011 STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS
JANUARY 11, 2011

So we had a little election last November. It changed a few things, like the seating arrangement in this chamber. One thing it didnt change at all: our common duty to take every action possible to make this a better state, a more progressive state, a standout and special and distinctive state.

That election, like all elections, was not a victory for one side, it was an instruction to us all. It was not an endorsement of a political party, it was an assignment to everyone present.

By itself, it accomplished nothing, but it threw open the door to great accomplishment. Starting tonight, we must step through that door, together.



Mitch Daniels unclear on what "winning" means...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 07:08 PM (bOKG+)

237 RICK PERRY

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at February 22, 2011 07:16 PM (yoktz)

238 Cheating is a legitimate part of the game. We need to aid and abet the cheaters, otherwise they'll feel bad.

Posted by: Mitch The Bitch at February 22, 2011 07:21 PM (N49h9)

239 235 "You guys want a real man, an alpha male, because you're all a bunch of pussies who sit around posting alpha male messages on web sites."
Did someone just sniff my butt?

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 22, 2011 07:46 PM (/g2vP)

240 It doesn't matter if you run a surplus, cut the number of state employees, and make your state one of the most business-friendly in the union during a deep, protracted recession if you don't look like a badass, ball-breakin' sonofabitch in the process.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 08:00 PM (OLomk)

241 So Daniels is off the fair-haired boy list, ehh? For what - being an adult? Unlike the WIS GOV whose tactics are despicable. He is NOT interested in reductions for the state budget - unions already agreed to 'em. He's a union-buster, also known as scum of the earth.

Posted by: Mikeh at February 22, 2011 08:04 PM (etEBR)

242 @132 Walker's a useless idiot.

Posted by: Mikeh at February 22, 2011 08:06 PM (etEBR)

243 The bill here IS NOT the same as Wisconsin. Daniels already did that several years ago, with much success. Public unions are dead here. The state workers got a raise after years of never getting one..MERIT pay raises.. they have to earn it. He did in 2005 what these other states are trying to do now.

I agree with Daniels... on the table is lowering corporate tax rates and school choice. But lets waste months over this shit? Get your priorities right, Republicans.
You finally have a full majority in both houses. You will lose it by forgetting why you were elected.... JOBS. there is a reason why Daniels has a 70% approval rating in a state that voted for Obama. A state that is a heavily manufacturing. A state in the middle of rust belt screwed up states.

Blows me away anyone can call Daniels a RINO or squish. Seriously? Has anyone seen what he has done? He is a conservatives wet dream. He did it all before it was considered "cool". Lowest property taxes in the NATION. He has a 100% pro life rating. No fags getting married here.. ever. Lowest state worker ratio in the Nation. #2 in job growth in the nation. Public union's.. just about dead here. A surplus... a freakin surplus.

All the crap every other state is trying to do... Daniels did years ago. He didnt spend us into oblivion like Wisconsin and Ohio. He cut and saved. We were a mess before he became Governor... a total mess.

The freakin asshole that has lead this exodus is the former speaker, Pat Bower.. a liberal loon. That jerk is Indiana's version of Nancy Pelosi.
Daniels always made him look stupid. Just as he is doing now.

You find me another candidate that has done what Daniels has done. Actually done it. Not yell and scream about it.. DONE it. You wont find one. Find me anyone as conservative as Daniels with a proven record to back up that claim.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 08:19 PM (ph9vn)

244 Who the hell is he trying to please?
I don't buy it. Look, I understand squishiness. The path of least resistance. That makes sense. But the establishment GOP is not invested in public sector unions, with the possible exception of police unions. As Walker showed, you can cut out an exemption for them.
I'll tell you what it is. It's very simple. It's exactly what he says it is, and what the people in his office are saying it is. But of course they have their spin.
It's this: It's bad timing... for Daniels.
He's preparing a POTUS run. He's itching to add education reform to his legacy, got a nice bill with some welfare in it for children with speech impairment that he can tout on the campaign trail.
He feels nowis a bad time for him to get bogged down. He's suppose to be coasting along and padding his resume with 'accomplishments' for his upcoming run.
It's about him, you see.
This vitally important piece of legislation and the controversy surrounding it is messing up his ability to pad his resume in preparation for another run at another office.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:21 PM (eL+YD)

245 You find me another candidate that has done what Daniels has done.
I don't want another candidate that has done what Daniels has done. That's the goddamn problem.
Gov. Scott Walker is doing what Daniels won't.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:23 PM (eL+YD)

246 And I'll tell you what that isn't.
A hudna truce on social issues with palestinians democrats.
"Im not going to divert a single trooper from their job of protecting the Indiana public. I trust that peoples consciences will bring them back to work and I choose to believe that our friends in the minority will, having made their point, will come back and do their duty and the jobs they are paid to do."
The man is dangerously naive. Perhaps worse than Bush. One only wonders what he might buy into or do with the wrong people whispering in his ear.
And I still haven't heard a satifactory explanation for why the Governor who would be President apparently needs a refresher civics class. Why is the Indiana executive branch "superior".
We already have a guy who doesn't know how many states there are.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:30 PM (eL+YD)

247 Indiana House speaker Brian Bosma is furious at the Democratic assembly members who left the state today to halt right-to-work legislation.

If the Democrats do not return by midnight, the legislation will be in major jeopardy. The right-to-work committee report does have to be adopted this evening to be eligible for action in this portion of the general assembly session, Bosma says. Their staying out for several days here does have the potential to kill the issue for the session under our rules.




Dems win again. Thank's Mitch for the no-try.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM (bOKG+)

248 He's a union-buster
And that's just one of many reasons whyWalker deserves our support, especially now that Daniels threw him under the bus.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM (eL+YD)

249 For those of you silly enough to be confused as to why some of us are taking Mitchel off the "golden boy" list, it's precisely because of shit like this...

First of all, just to affirm, the activities of today are perfectly
legitimate part of the process. Even the smallest minority and thats
what weve heard from the last couple days - has every right to express
the strength of its views and I salute those who do.

Translation: fleeing the state is an acceptable alternative to losing a vote in the legislature.

That's room-temperature IQ stuff, right there.

Any political party that would consider that level of weapons-grade stupid for the top of the Presidential ticket is not a party I'm any longer interested in belonging to.

Posted by: DocJ at February 22, 2011 08:35 PM (AWzOz)

250 @ 245 - Gov. Scott Walker is doing what Daniels won't.

Err, nope. Gov. Scott Walker is doing what Daniels did six years ago.


Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 08:37 PM (OLomk)

251 240
It doesn't matter if you run a surplus, cut the number of state
employees, and make your state one of the most business-friendly in the
union during a deep, protracted recession if you don't look like a
badass, ball-breakin' sonofabitch in the process

Forbes ranked Indiana #29 for business and careers.

The Tax Foundation and Council on Taxation ranked Indiana #10.

Here's an article on how these rankings are determined.
243
The bill here IS NOT the same as Wisconsin. Daniels already did that several years ago, with much success.

If you or other Daniels supporters would like to provide some links about this, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, all he's doing is undercutting Walker and caving to the Democrats' strong-arm tactics in his own state -- I'm not a fan of that.

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 08:39 PM (pW2o8)

252 @ 248 - And that's just one of many reasons whyWalker deserves our support, especially now that Daniels threw him under the bus.

Again, not true. Daniels has stood up for Walker.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 08:41 PM (OLomk)

253 @ 251 - See 250



Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 08:44 PM (OLomk)

254 Bullshit Gilbert. Not remotely the same thing.
For one, Walker is standing strong and not backing down to pressure despite these ridiculous tactics by the democrats. The same tactics Daniels is now begging his colleagues to cave to.
For another, Walker isn't nearly as tone deaf politically. This guy and his idiot reach-around compromisesare a loose cannon. Who's his role model, Henry Kissinger?
For another, the provisions that will require mandatory vote every year on the union to remain certified and the right-to-work provision that allows anyone to quit the union and not be fired, thosedo not existin IN.
IN is not currently a right-to-work state. That's what this bill was about. That's what Walker's doing in WI.
You're basically spouting demonstrably false bullshit now.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:47 PM (eL+YD)

255
And that's just one of many reasons whyWalker deserves our support, especially now that Daniels threw him under the bus.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM (eL+YD)

Walker is copying what Daniels did in 2005. Indiana has already done all this.We arent having the same conversation in Indiana. We have ALREADY done it all.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 08:48 PM (ph9vn)

256 You guys are really gonna cry when Palin comes out of the closet on global warming. Once again for 2012 there will be no conservative presidential candidate to vote for.
Posted by: Bieber must die, for harvest at February 22, 2011 04:35 PM (F/4zf)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
*wheeze*
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ANWR and AGIA! Globaloney!

Posted by: RushBabe at February 22, 2011 08:49 PM (urYpw)

257 Regarding Indiana (my state): Daniels told the legislature that he didn't want them to bring this up
until after the rest of his bills had been passed. Two of the bills are
state-wide vouchers for all (which will completely upend the
educational establishment) and a bill to automatically refund any
surplus tax revenue after the budget has been met (which will keep the
democrats, if they ever regain power, from spending all extra revenue
and starting new programs, which they always insist should be funded
in perpetuity).

The legislature, overreaching and under pressure
from the Chamber of Commerce (not the sharpest knives n the drawer)
started this bill through. It is a Right to Work bill. Daniels already
got collective bargaining for state employees banned through an
executive order (since the original bill allowing collective bargaining
had been done through executive order by Evan Bayh).

Indiana,
unlike Wisconsin, requires a quorum on EVERY bill passed, not just on
financial issues. As long as the democrats are missing, NO legislation
will pass (including the vouchers and the automatic tax refund). And
we are half-way though our very short (90 days) legislative session.

Daniels
was right in what he said, because RTW is not a priority compared to
the other bills which could be passed if the democrats were in town.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 08:51 PM (Fo83G)

258 Indiana has already done all this.
More bullshit Timbo. Not that stupid. Try again.
Employee's right to work. Makes it a Class A misdemeanor to require an individual to: (1) become or remain a member of a labor organization; (2) pay dues, fees, or other charges to a labor organization; or (3) pay to a charity or another third party an amount that represents dues, fees, or other charges required of members of a labor organization; as a condition of employment or continuation of employment.
WI - gonna have it shortly.
IN - Has NOT had it for 5 years, and probably not in the next 5 either.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:52 PM (eL+YD)

259

Dems win again. Thank's Mitch for the no-try.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 08:32 PM (bOKG+)
Bullshit.Dens havent won an argument here in 6 years. Daniels has done everything he wanted to do... with a Dem controlled house.What he hasnt been able to do was lower corporate tax rates and school choice. Now that he has a majority.. he wants to do what they all campaigned on.
Dont remember last time our house was Republican. If they dont stick with the plan.. they will lose that control and we will never lower our corporate tax rates or have school choice.Daniels is right on this one.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 08:54 PM (ph9vn)

260 Indiana, unlike Wisconsin, requires a quorum on EVERY bill passed
So what... if IN democrats stay in IL and won't give quorum for the school vouchers, not only is he still boned, he's on record as calling their actions legitimate and applauding them for it.
Geez... can't see how that could end badly.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 08:54 PM (eL+YD)

261 You know what, Entropy? How about you tell me what state YOU are in.

You don't know beans about how well Governor Daniels has run this state, while Illinois, Ohio, and Michigan went into the toilet.

I am sick of this. If you want to go after someone from Indiana, how about Richard Lugar, the jerk senator? The state treasurer is running against him in the primaries, and he is a really good guy and a conservative.

But no, everyone IGNORES that and piles on Daniels, because people who do not understand how our legislature works have decided to act like Daniels is some sort of traitor! It's disgusting.

Daniels can rant and rave and call them criminals, if it would make you all feel better, but it wouldn't get the dems to come back. We are probably going to lose all of these programs that were possible because the legislators were STUPID and listened to people like on this thread, who have NO sense of strategy whatsoever!!


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:00 PM (Fo83G)

262 http://tiny.cc/690vs
Upon taking office in 2005, Gov. Mitch Daniels ended collective
bargaining for state employees. He didnt work in the margins,
adjusting benefits here and there, he just kicked the union out. It
was awesome. When unionized, state employees were forced to
paycompulsorydues to their union, the American Federation of State,
County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME). Today, membership in AFSCME
is nearly nonexistent.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:01 PM (ph9vn)

263 @ 254 - If Walker manages to accomplish half as much in Wisconsin as Daniels has in Indiana, he'll be a great governor. God knows how he managed to accomplish it all without your input.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 09:03 PM (OLomk)

264 ah, hahahahaha
What a fuckin butt munch
He's history.
Genius Charles Krauthammer and Genius George Will
hardest hit

Posted by: some dope at February 22, 2011 09:06 PM (BZEkR)

265 You know who this helps!

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at February 22, 2011 09:07 PM (BZEkR)

266 261

Exactly. Not a freakin clue what is going on here. Indiana has has this conversation... we are light years ahead of the states now jumping on the bandwagon Daniels did years ago.

Our priorities here are not what the other states are.. we have already done it.
The priority here is school choice and lowering corporate tax rates.
Daniels is 100% right.

Yes, they have a right to protest. Of course they do. Do they look like idiots to us hoosiers.. yes. Hoosiers are thanking God we hired Mitch Daniels in 2004 to do what no other state thought to do before they were looking at bankruptcy.

Good for other states for figuring out what Daniels figured out before the shit hit the fan. To say Daniels is a RINO is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
He was the guy saving and cutting while the rest of the country was living large thinking there was no end. Thats a conservative.
While the rest of the country is going down the toilet. Indiana is looking at ways to expand business into this state. We can because we already made the tough choices.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:14 PM (ph9vn)

267 How about you tell me what state YOU are in.
Southeast Cook County IL. I'm on your border.
Not that it makes a damn bit of difference if I live in Timbuktu. Ad hominem and appeal to authority are both logical fallacies. Right is right, no matter who the messenger.
I am sick of this.
Boo hoo.
I'm sick of pantywaists like Daniels cowing to communists in the name of civility.
You can make the argument that the legislature should not have gone for this first.
Maybe if hecontrolled his own damn party to start with, he wouldn't even be in that position.
But he didn't. And they did. And that's what it is. Done is done.Now it must be dealt with.
And Daniels get's an F.
An F for his rhetoric that throws Walker under the bus, and anF for caving to the dems in a way that gives them a veto over every bill he presents. And if the bill goes down in defeat, an F for that too.
Stack that on top of his "social truce" talk, generally squishymanner of speaking that conceeds too many assumptions to the left, and the persona of a paperweight, I think we're all getting a pretty clear picture of who WON'T be the 2012 GOP nominee for President.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 09:17 PM (eL+YD)

268 Not a freakin clue what is going on here. Indiana has has this conversation... we are light years ahead of the states now jumping on the bandwagon Daniels did years ago.
You can repeat this all day long, it still doesn't change history or make IN a Right To Work state.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 09:17 PM (eL+YD)

269 If this has already been done in Indiana, why did Mitch say that the issue is legitimate and important? His statement quoted above says it's about timing.

And there's simply no good excuse to cave to the childish, unprofessional, and uncollegial antics of Obama's Democrats in refusing to provide a quorum. Saying that behavior is legitimate is stupid.

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 09:19 PM (pW2o8)

270 If they dont stick with the plan.. they will lose that control and we will never lower our corporate tax rates or have school choice.

Daniels is right on this one.

Posted by: Timbo



And when the tax issue comes up, what will the Democrats threaten to do again if they don't get their way? And when school choice comes up, what will the Democrats threaten to do again if they don't get their way? Repeat for every other issue the Dems care about.

Daniels has not only accepted the Democrat's actions, he has explicitly -- and inexplicably -- endorsed them.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:19 PM (bOKG+)

271 251... here

http://tiny.cc/jcgwu

Todays fight was triggered by Republicans pushing a bill that would
bar unions and companies from negotiating a contract that requires
non-union members to kick-in fees for representation.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:19 PM (ph9vn)

272 Timbo, I have been on several sites and Twitter trying to explain this, not only to people like Entropy but to pundits in DC who should know better.

This ridiculous shoot-from-the-hip criticism of our people has got to stop, or we will never beat Obama in 2012. We will be limping around having shot ourselves in both feet with this silly hyper-criticism that seems to erupt every time some elected official doesn't follow whatever the current popular conservative playbook says.

Well, I have explained how things are in Indiana, and you are SO right that Daniels has been years ahead of Walker and everyone else. Walker probably called Daniels for advice!

Sometimes I fear for our country not only because of the democrats, but because of many conservatives who don't understand how basic things like quorums work.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:20 PM (Fo83G)

273 PS.
Since I know nothing at all about IN, obviously, then I obviously know nothing at all about how Daniels torpedo'd the attempt at reforming judicial selection because he was frankly quite peachy with appointing another elite-annointed lawyer who defended terrorists at Gitmo to the IN supreme court.
Y'all have fun with that goober. I wouldn't let him no where near the USSC.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 09:22 PM (eL+YD)

274 Daniels has not only accepted the Democrat's actions, he has explicitly -- and inexplicably -- endorsed them.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:19 PM (bOKG+)
How has he accepted them? By not screaming and ordering a bunch of cops to waste tax payer dollars to find them? He already
Republicans in our house should have worked ont he priorities they campaigned on. Instead.. they are doing what the US house dems did for the last 2 years.We finally got a majority because of DANIELS. They campaigned on lower corporate tax rates, school choice and giving back unused tax payer dollars.Dems wouldnt have run off if Republicans stuck to their freakin mandate.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:24 PM (ph9vn)

275 HAHAHA! Entropy is the big expert on Indiana from COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS.

Well thanks on telling us how our governor should operate.You have so many good examples over there in Cook County.

Pffft.


I am done with this. I don't think Daniels was going to run for president anyway, so all of this sturm and drang is pretty much puffing yourselves up to show off your credentials as true-blue conservative warriors.

Have a good time. I don't care what you guys think about this, and I am fairly certain Daniels doesn't, either.




Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:25 PM (Fo83G)

276 http://tiny.cc/690vs
Posted by: Timbo


which allowed other priorities, like state employee benefit increases, to move forward. State employees received a raise in 2006 and the state nearly doubled the contribution to state employees health insurance plan. By 2008, the governor was able to increase state employee salaries an average of 4.8%.

In 2006, Gov. Daniels and Republican lawmakers passed Senate Enrolled Act 340 to guarantee the jobs of state employees who were displaced due to privatization. Legislation was passed to allow state employees to partially vest in retirement in the event they left state government before their 10 year vesting period to work for a private company.




Cool. Daniels threw money and job guarantees at state workers. Sounds like a fiscal conservative to me.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:27 PM (bOKG+)

277 @ 267 - Look. As much as it breaks my heart that you're not happy with Mitch Daniels and feel like he's betrayed Gov. Walker, I'm not yet ready to abandon a candidate who has an actual record of accomplishment. Yes, it troubles me deeply that you're not happy right now. And, I'll tell you what ... if Daniels pisses you off one more time, I'm outta here.

But, please ... I'm begging you. Give the man a chance. Please don't ruin his chances for the White House, OK? I have posters of him on my wall, and quite a bit of money invested in Daniels memorabilia -- not to mention a hefty contract with a printing company set to roll out a line of Mitch Daniels tchotchkes.

So, please ... refrain from further harming his chances with your manic ranting and over-the-top indignation. I don't think I could take the financial hit -- let alone the heartfelt personal investment.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 09:27 PM (OLomk)

278 BB balls is out, but I'm tanned, I'm rested and I speak fluent Indonesian as well as Mandarin Chinese!

Posted by: Jon "Mike" Huntsman at February 22, 2011 09:28 PM (BZEkR)

279 You have so many good examples over there in Cook County.
Your logic sucks. You want to credit me with IL politicians? How bout I hold you personally responsible for Bayh?
I never said MY governor was better.
WI's is though.
Besides, I was in IN yesterday. You're actually invoking a text book logical fallacy. Debate the facts, not the debators.
Otherwise I'm going to have to insist you STFU on all foreign policy issues and federal issues until you've moved to DC and/or the relevant foreign country.

Posted by: Entropy at February 22, 2011 09:30 PM (eL+YD)

280 274
Daniels has not only accepted the Democrat's actions, he has explicitly -- and inexplicably -- endorsed them.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:19 PM (bOKG+)
>>How has he accepted them? By not screaming and ordering a bunch
>>of cops to waste tax payer dollars to find them?

-----

LDC is right. He endorsed them when he "saluted" them in his statement today.

He's basically hoping when the bill dies, the Dems will come back. Not much of a strategy.

FWIW, I lived in Indiana from 2000-2007.

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 09:30 PM (pW2o8)

281 How has he accepted them?
Posted by: Timbo



just to affirm, the activities of today are perfectly legitimate part of the process. Even the smallest minority and thats what weve heard from the last couple days - has every right to express the strength of its views and I salute those who do.

Mitch Daniels

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:32 PM (bOKG+)

282 Well, I have explained how things are in Indiana,
and you are SO right that Daniels has been years ahead of Walker and
everyone else. Walker probably called Daniels for advice!

Sometimes
I fear for our country not only because of the democrats, but because
of many conservatives who don't understand how basic things like
quorums work.


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:20 PM (Fo83G)

God.. I know. Daniels is every conservatives wet dream. Its just he did it when nobody was paying attention. While every other state was handing out more freebies, Indiana was cutting and saving. We are like those people who lived in a house we could afford and saved for retirement... while everyone else bought the mcmansion and ran up the credit cards. Those people are freaked out.. We arent... we actually did the right thing to begin with and life is much easier for us.
If Indiana was in the shape the other states are and this was the same issue.. then I can understand the anger. But its not. Indiana has already done the hard stuff.Christie, Walker and Kasich are following Daniels.. they are doing exactly what Daniels did here.. or trying to do.
Daniels will do what he always does. Pat Bower will look like a freakin lunatic when this is all done.
Republicans here are missing a golden opportunity to get the priorities done first. Then who cares what they do. Just get the big stuff done first.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:33 PM (ph9vn)

283 257
Regarding Indiana (my state): Daniels told the legislature that he didn't want them to bring this up
until after the rest of his bills had been passed.

That's fine, but he has to be able to deal with legislators on his own side who don't follow his lead. I know he has his plan, but it came in contact with the enemy and so he has to change tactics.

He sounded scolding.

He also failed to criticize the Democrats.

Whether Mitch intends it or not, this is the attitude we constantly have to deal with. We are treated like children by the party establishment. Even worse, conservatives are the good kid who gets punished for mild transgressions while the arsonist liberals get patted on the head and excused.

Mitch may be 100% right in strategy and can play 17-dimensional chess better than anyone, but our political wants are legitimate, even if they are wrong strategy.

And he has to learn how to deal with allies who aren't willing to be subservient to him.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 09:34 PM (T0NGe)

284 @283
Well put.

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 09:35 PM (pW2o8)

285 @ 281
- I don't suppose you ever saw that Andy Griffith episode where Opie's friend was going to run away from home to be a cowboy in Texas, and Andy just went along with it.

You see, that's how grown-ups deal with children sometimes.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 09:37 PM (OLomk)

286 If you want to know how Mitch does negotiating with or persuading the opposition, look at a map of Indiana time zones.

Posted by: Y-not at February 22, 2011 09:38 PM (pW2o8)

287 You make a good point, AmishDude. I do think that too much is being made of his statement, though.

And it is really, really irritating to hear all of this criticism of him, when no one paid attention to the last 6 years of his governing.

Timbo already explained this. He has put our state in such a good position in comparison to not only our neighbors but states all across the country.

If you had a governor like Daniels you would understand why I am upset. Not one person criticizing has looked at his entire record. Most don't understand how our legislature works.

The legislature has worked just fine with him, until the Chamber of Commerce thought that they should push for this RTW bill and got their buddies in the statehouse to go against what Daniels wanted.

Now we see that maybe these people weren't so smart. And instead of people getting mad at the legislators who went a bridge too far, everyone is dumping on Daniels.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:42 PM (Fo83G)

288 283

the governor is very supportive of
our position to come in and try to do our work. He was not pleased that
the Democrats werent here to do their work.


I guess he could have yelled and screamed.. is that what a leader does?
Funny... his record on getting the things done that matter means nothing. ....he just has to yell and scream at democrats to be a real conservative.
Never mind he has the best record in the country. Never mind he did it all without a majority in the house.
What you all want is a yelling screaming lunatic.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:42 PM (ph9vn)

289 I don't suppose you ever saw that Andy Griffith episode...
Posted by: Walt Gilbert


Jane Jankowski, Daniels press secretary, issued a clarification to reporters Tuesday evening.

The portion of Daniels statement appearing to condone the legislators absence, Janokowski wrote in the email, was addressed to pro-union protesters, not the missing legislators.

Theres been some confusion about some of what Governor Daniels said today at the beginning of his statement, wrote Jankowski, He was referring to those who have come to the state house in the past couple of days to express their views.

Daniels immediately followed the comment saying, Just to be equally plain, Im not sending the state police after anybody. Im not going to divert a single trooper from their job of protecting the Indiana public.



Oops - this evening's walk-back negates the idea that Mitch was practicing "strategee".

And of course the full quote, which mentions not sending the cops, makes it apparent he was talking about the legislators and not the protesters. So, at this point Daniels is lying outright to try and save his political skin.

If I wanted that in a President, I could just vote for Obama.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:47 PM (bOKG+)

290 Mitch Daniels is the guy who bought the house he could afford and saved for retirement.
Today, his child said..I want candy! And Mitch said.. not before dinner.

Would candy be nice?.. yes. Is dinner more important?.. yes. Can you have your candy after you clean your plate? Yes.



Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:49 PM (ph9vn)

291 This ridiculous shoot-from-the-hip criticism of our people has got to
stop, or we will never beat Obama in 2012. We will be limping around
having shot ourselves in both feet with this silly hyper-criticism that
seems to erupt every time some elected official doesn't follow whatever
the current popular conservative playbook says.

Miss Marple, I agree with this sentiment in general. I invented the term "Sphinx caucus" to describe those conservatives who will cut off their noses to spite us all.

But Republican leaders have got to learn Rule #1 for being a Republican: It Is Always Democrats' Fault.

Mitch blamed Republicans. He might have been right, but it doesn't matter. We are exhausted with our own side. We're skittish and are looking to be betrayed at any moment, because it's happened so often. Conservatives may be a fickle mistress these days but it's not hard to see why.

Daniels would be better off positioning himself as a mediator, saying that the Democrats must return as democracy is only served when the peoples' representatives meet and they are not being helpful.

There is no reason for this fleebagging nonsense. None.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 09:50 PM (T0NGe)

292 #288 Timbo, I understand how people desire someone to just "tell it like it is", call the democrooks names and lower the boom. It's why Christie is popular.

You and I know, however, that what works in New Jersey doesn't work in Indiana. This is the state of reticence, good manners, and quietly doing the right thing.

Walker is also not saying bad things about the democrats. He's saying much what Daniels is saying; they have a right to express their opinion, they need to come back to the statehouse and work, etc.He's not ranting or raving, either.

So how come Walker is a big hero and Daniels is a loser? I guess it's because certain people have decided to cast them in different roles.


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:52 PM (Fo83G)

293 Another Daniels Portrait in Courage:


The Indiana Senate has approved a contentious Arizona-style bill to crack down on illegal immigration.

The Republican-ruled Senate voted 31-18 Tuesday for the
bill, which contains penalties for businesses that hire illegal
immigrants and allows police officers to ask someone for proof of
immigration status if they have a reasonable suspicion the person is in
the country illegally.

Supporters say Indiana must act because the federal
government has shirked its responsibility to deal with illegal
immigration. Opponents say the bill will lead to racial profiling and
hurt economic development.
Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels has declined to take a public stance on the proposal.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:53 PM (bOKG+)

294 And it is really, really irritating to hear all of this criticism of
him, when no one paid attention to the last 6 years of his governing.

I did. One of the best GOP governor's records in the past decade. Others did too.
The
legislature has worked just fine with him, until the Chamber of
Commerce thought that they should push for this RTW bill and got their
buddies in the statehouse to go against what Daniels wanted.

Once again: It is the Democrats' fault.

They left the state. Left the state. This is not a legitimate parliamentary tactic, it's spoiled bratism. They lost. It's their fault.

It's like blaming the statehouse Republicans for dressing provocatively. The Democrats are at fault here. They are not animals or forces of nature. They are supposedly adults and should be held to that standard.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 09:58 PM (T0NGe)

295 Walker is also not saying bad things about the
democrats. He's saying much what Daniels is saying; they have a right
to express their opinion, they need to come back to the statehouse and
work, etc.He's not ranting or raving, either.

So how come
Walker is a big hero and Daniels is a loser? I guess it's because
certain people have decided to cast them in different roles.




Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 09:52 PM (Fo83G)

Exactly.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 09:58 PM (ph9vn)

296 @ 289
- If I may issue a clarification of my own, my previous statement of heartbreak and regret was not limited to Entropy alone. I understand the need for catharsis and hope everyone will get it out of their systems soon.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at February 22, 2011 10:00 PM (OLomk)

297 AmishDude, for what it's worth Daniels did come out later today and say he could have phrased things better.

Having lived with Daniels governorship I can tell you this: he isn't the most eloquent person, and he tends to speak his mind, often to his chagrin.

It's how he is. I imagine tomorrow he will clarify, and nothing will change anyway.

The Speaker of the House is a complete ass, and has done nothing but cause trouble for the last 6 years. If it weren't this bill, it would be something else.Those of us who live here have seen it before.

Frankly, Daniels has done so much good he would have to shoot someone in front of the statehouse before he lost support here.

And I never thought he would run for president anyway, because he has concerns about his family and privacy. For example, six years of him in the governor's mansion and I have never seen any of his daughters on TV or in the paper. I don't know what they look like. And his wife only appears for certain charities, the State Fair pork contest, and a state exercise program. She's pretty much invisible, too. So I don't think he relished sending them out as cannon fodder for the democrats to destroy, a la Bristol Palin.

So, I think everyone is wasting their time telling us all how he is done, since I don't think he ever intended to begin.

But he's still a good governor, and I support him. And he is right about how this bill isn't a priority.


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:00 PM (Fo83G)

298 Walker is also not saying bad things about the democrats. ...So how come Walker is a big hero and Daniels is a loser?

Because Daniels is criticizing Republicans and he did excuse Democrats' fleeing.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:01 PM (T0NGe)

299 Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels has declined to take a public stance on the proposal.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 22, 2011 09:53 PM (bOKG+)

We have BIG things on the table that will help our economy. We dont give a shit about this fringe stuff. WE DONT CARE. We want our economy to improve.Indiana is hardly Arizona. Our problem is not illegal immigrants. Our problem is corporate tax rates, educational choice.Geesh.... we actually have the correct priorities... its the republicans in our house so excited about having a majority they cant focus on the priorities.
Screw the dems... they dont matter. The Republicans in our house are forgetting the priority. JOBS.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:03 PM (ph9vn)

300 I wanted to applied for a job at a machine shop when I was in college. A guy working there asked if I was a member of the union. I said no. He informed me I had to join the union to work there. $100+ a year in installments. A weeks wages for me would have been leass than that. I told him to stuff it, (I don't remember my exact words). I have been anti union ever since. It's bullshit that a man or company can't hire someone who wants to work there unless they have cowtowed to a union. I am a right to work guy and screw the unions.
Also, unions ran Autolight out of business in our area.My Fater worked there. He made great money for a while untill they left. They and he got tired of the strikes and work stoppages.Companies that have left ornearly shut down production in the Cincinnati area off the top of my head, GM, US Playing Card, Mosler, Beckett Paper, Caterpillar, Champion Paper, General Electric to name a few.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at February 22, 2011 10:03 PM (EH4cc)

301
Because Daniels is criticizing Republicans and he did excuse Democrats' fleeing.


Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:01 PM (T0NGe)

AGAIN... they were elected to finally get the big stuff done. What do they do 30 days in? Go after all the stuff that doesnt matter and forget what they were elected for. They were elected to help DANIELS. Its DANIELS we trust, believe in and want his priorities voted on.We voted to HELP DANIELS by giving him a majority in both houses.
Ya'll sound like the democrat congress over the last 2 years. They were voted in to be the most ethical congress ever... to cut spending and get our fiscal house in order. THEY FAILED.. they checked off their liberal dream list instead of remembering what they promised... and they LOST in November.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:08 PM (ph9vn)

302 297
AmishDude, for what it's worth Daniels did come out later today and say he could have phrased things better.Having
lived with Daniels governorship I can tell you this: he isn't the most
eloquent person, and he tends to speak his mind, often to his
chagrin.

I don't like it when people treat Sarah Palin with vitriol with the excuse that she might be a presidential candidate. When she is, she is, but don't try to torpedo her (personally) before she announces. But here I have to address Daniels as a Presidential candidate. Most people don't know him personally and he's not making a great impression.

We like stridency because at least that puts a line in the sand for a Republican. They can't walk back stridency and we are so used to the notion that when Republicans get elected they never move to the right in office.

The Speaker of the House is a complete ass, and has done nothing but
cause trouble for the last 6 years.

Well, that's what a leader does. He learns to deal with people like that.
But he's still a good governor, and I support him. And he is right about how this bill isn't a priority.

I'll trust you on that. You know your Indiana.

But it's still Democrats' fault.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:11 PM (T0NGe)

303 Still wish some of the people here would go after Lugar with the same venom. Now there is a TRUE RINO who needs to be thrown out!

He has a primary challenger who is a good guy. You all might consider throwing him some cash.

His name is Dick Mourdock.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:13 PM (Fo83G)

304 AGAIN... they were elected to finally get the big stuff done. What do
they do 30 days in? Go after all the stuff that doesnt matter and
forget what they were elected for.

It doesn't matter. You don't badmouth your own party. It's Democrats' fault. Period. Even if Daniels wants to be a power broker and arbiter, his instinct can't be to bash his own side. Be guru-like. Above it all. Third way and all that.

They were elected to help DANIELS.

You say so, but the wave was nationwide and Daniels isn't governor everywhere.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:15 PM (T0NGe)

305 So, I think everyone is wasting their time telling us all how he is done, since I don't think he ever intended to begin.

But he's still a good governor, and I support him. And he is right about how this bill isn't a priority.




Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:00 PM (Fo83G)

I will be surprised if he runs too. I have never seen his kids either and I never hear of Mrs Daniels... other than the state fair.
Ridiculous, he has built the best record in the country. But he doesn't yell at democrats so... he is unqualified. He wants to stick to the economy.. so he is a traitor.
Where Christie.. who is a gun control, mosque building, eco dude.. who hasnt done anything is the greatest thing since sliced bread because he screams at dems.No wonder Mrs Daniels doesnt want him to run. Its Americas loss.
We are screwed and I see nobody who will really roll up their sleeves and do the hard work like Daniels will.Maybe our next President will yell at democrats while we all turn into Greece.That should make everything better.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:17 PM (ph9vn)

306 AmishDude, excuse me, but I have been hearing people in my own party badmouthed by GOP officials for at least 10 years.

I had to put up with the Bush-bashers, the anti-O'Donnell's, the Palin-haters, the Romney haters, and the rest.

So why, all of a sudden, is Daniels' rather mild statement beyond the pale?

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:19 PM (Fo83G)

307 304
Still wish some of the people here would go after Lugar with the same
venom. Now there is a TRUE RINO who needs to be thrown out!

Just wait, he'll say something stupid soon enough. Probably will shoot his mouth off on foreign policy. The one thing about foreign policy is that experience is independent of achievement.

He's the #1 choice for primarying. With Snowe we risk a seat and Hatch is being defended in Utah (although with their primary system, he's still not 100% safe).
He has a primary challenger who is a good guy. You all might consider throwing him some cash.His name is Dick Mourdock.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:13 PM (Fo83G)
Website: Richard Mourdock for Senate (R-IN).
Also, Lugar will be 80 on election day.But to bring it back to Daniels, he'd get a lot of goodwill if he did a relatively early endorsement of Mourdock.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:24 PM (T0NGe)

308 Daniels isn't going to endorse Mourdock, because he was Lugar's campaign manager years ago. As head of the state GOP, Daniels is remaining neutral, other than to say he wil vote for Lugar.

You probably won't like that, but it's much like Palin endorsing McCain, who gave her her start.

It won't matter, though. Mourdock has the support of the majority of county chairmen and a majority of the state GOP executive committee. Lugar will lose if he doeosn't wise up and retire. Mourdock is pretty popular, and people are disgusted with Lugar.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:30 PM (Fo83G)

309 307
AmishDude, excuse me, but I have been hearing people in my own party badmouthed by GOP officials for at least 10 years.

I had to put up with the Bush-bashers, the anti-O'Donnell's, the Palin-haters, the Romney haters, and the rest.

So why, all of a sudden, is Daniels' rather mild statement beyond the pale?


Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:19 PM (Fo83G)
Hair trigger and lack of familiarity. We've seen too many Scott Browns. Run as a moderate or somewhat conservative and then turn left while in office. We're afraid that Daniels is instinctively liberal and like so many is just masking it.
It's also a lack of loyalty. Henry Louis Gates is a world class ass and Obama knew it, but Gates was his friend and comrade and so the cop acted stupidly.We don't like being told by Daniels that the Republicans acted stupidly when the Indiana Dems are hiding out across state lines.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:30 PM (T0NGe)

310 Lets say its 2013... and we have a republican president and a majority in both houses.
Our economy sucks...we are about to become Greece...... and they all campaigned for all the things that would turn it around.

and the congress takes up.... a year long debate on abortion.. they get all sides all worked up.. freaking out...
meanwhile .. we are all saying.. uh, weren't you elected to fix the economy?

Would you be happy?

That's how we feel about what our newly elected Republicans are doing in Indiana....and why we support Daniels for reminding them why they were elected.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:32 PM (ph9vn)

311 Well, AmishDude, that's too bad.

Not anything I can do about all of the ranting, other than present my case, which I have done.

You might consider that when push comes shove, Daniels can be counted on to DO the right thing. He hasn't let us down here in Indiana.

But I guess nowadays it's words, not deeds. It's a shame, since that means that Obama will have an advantage.

Good night!

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 22, 2011 10:34 PM (Fo83G)

312 We don't like being told by Daniels that the Republicans acted stupidly when the Indiana Dems are hiding out across state lines.


Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:30 PM (T0NGe)

They did act stupid. They were elected for a list of priorities. They are focusing on all this silly shit and not on what we elected them to do.
They will be as dead as the dems are now if they dont stick with the Daniels plan.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:34 PM (ph9vn)

313 309
Daniels isn't going to endorse Mourdock, because he was Lugar's
campaign manager years ago. As head of the state GOP, Daniels is
remaining neutral, other than to say he wil vote for Lugar.You probably won't like that, but it's much like Palin endorsing McCain, who gave her her start.

Yeah, these things happen. And it's a result of the kind of coalition politics that I endorse. It won't strengthen his conservative credentials, though. Maybe Daniels can get Lugar to wise up, but we'll never know that.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:34 PM (T0NGe)

314 It won't strengthen his conservative credentials, though. Maybe Daniels can get Lugar to wise up, but we'll never know that.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:34 PM (T0NGe)
Daniels has a 6 year conservative record. RECORD.He doesnt have to sure up any conservative credentials.. he has proven it. More than anyone else in the country.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:44 PM (ph9vn)

315 You say so, but the wave was nationwide and Daniels isn't governor everywhere.


Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2011 10:15 PM (T0NGe)

The wave was over years ago here. We ALREADY FIXED IT.We are watching as the nation learns its lesson. We learned ours and Daniels fixed it starting in 2004.So no. Our issues here are NOT the issues of the rest of the country. Our priorities are building on our successful fiscal policies of Mitch Daniels. The rest of the country is trying to stay solvent. We already are.

Posted by: Timbo at February 22, 2011 10:50 PM (ph9vn)

316 If Wisco killed their unions, Missou killed theirs, Indiana killed
theirs, Illinois would be an island. But an island that would sink
under the weight of the other states. from the weight of too many human beings on one side of it.

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Guam at February 23, 2011 01:02 AM (mHQ7T)

317 Not happy.

Posted by: Douglas at February 23, 2011 03:15 AM (YKOnu)

318 The Indianans on this thread, the people who actually know what they're talking about, have said it better than I ever could.

Daniels was my top choice before this and he still is.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at February 23, 2011 04:37 AM (zF6/W)

319 Mitch Daniels: Chickenshit Through and Through For You! [TM]

Now, there's a catchy campaign slogan!

Posted by: davidinvirginia at February 23, 2011 05:45 AM (02KaY)

320 He's running for President.
Idiot- a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way.
Daniels is an idiot. And if he runs for President you can add loser to that.

Posted by: Case at February 23, 2011 07:16 AM (0K+Kw)

321 Indiana is hardly Arizona. Our problem is not illegal immigrants. Our problem is corporate tax rates, educational choice.
Geesh.... we actually have the correct priorities... its the republicans in our house so excited about having a majority they cant focus on the priorities.
Screw the dems... they dont matter. The Republicans in our house are forgetting the priority. JOBS.<<<Timbo
Indiana is a farm state. You most certainly do have a problem with illegals.
"Correct" priorities. Jesus wept.

Posted by: Kerry at February 23, 2011 09:27 AM (a/VXa)

322 So the Hoosiers are united, Mitch will win the primary in the IN.
Income tax relief of property owners, reverse transfer payments, is a Dimmi initiative everywhere but "conservative" IN.
'Right to work' is one important tool in setting benefits and pensions on a sustainable course. IN has the 3rd least sustainable pension system in the country.
What are you fools talking about? Dupes Daniels is roadkill, give it up.
TPaw has more backbone, a better organization, has been stumping in IA and NH,... And he's a governor with an eight-year record of success.

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 23, 2011 10:13 AM (/g2vP)

323 I smell a squish. Daniels was looking good before this, but it's just as well we know what he is - another McCain - yuck.

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325 I live in Indiana and have been generally happy with Daniels as governor. I just don't get this. What the hell is he thinking? It's just the icing on the cake for an otherwise crappy day for me. MITCH=FAIL Goodbye little guy, you just blew it.

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