If Only Mubarak Had Invested In High-Speed Rail

Egypt updates:

--Mubarak named his intelligence chief and close confidant Omar Suleiman vice president.

Mubarak was widely seen as grooming his son Gamal to succeed him, possibly even as soon as in presidential elections planned for later this year. However, there was significant public opposition to the hereditary succession.

Suleiman has been in charge of some of Egypt's most sensitive foreign policy issues, including the Palestinian-Israeli peace process and inter-Palestinian divisions.

His appointment as vice president answers one of the most intriguing and most enduring political questions in Egypt: who would succeed the 82-year-old Mubarak?

--Mubarak's sons just landed in London, according to Allahpundit: "Hosni Mubarak's two sons Alaa and Gamal have arrived in London." Also, Mubarak's wife has left for london.

--Kirsten Powers tweets that Suleiman is a good choice: "Our egyptian uncle in Cairo says Omar Suleiman is well respected and would be a good president. Says his appt to VP is good for Egypt."

Update:

--Looters broke into the Egytian Museum, destroying mummies.

The museum in central Cairo, which has the world's biggest collection of Pharaonic antiquities, is adjacent to the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party that protesters had earlier set ablaze. Flames were seen still pouring out of the party headquarters early Saturday.

"I felt deeply sorry today when I came this morning to the Egyptian Museum and found that some had tried to raid the museum by force last night," Zahi Hawass, chairman of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, said Saturday.

"Egyptian citizens tried to prevent them and were joined by the tourism police, but some (looters) managed to enter from above and they destroyed two of the mummies," he said.

--Yahoo reports that the Egyptian army stormed the museum:

The Egyptian army secured Cairo's famed antiquities museum early Saturday, protecting thousands of priceless artifacts, including the gold mask of King Tutankhamun, from looters.

The greatest threat to the Egyptian Museum, which draws millions of tourists a year, first appeared to come from the fire engulfing the ruling party headquarters next door on Friday night, set ablaze by anti-government protesters.

Then dozens of would-be thieves started entering the grounds surrounding the museum, climbing over the metal fence or jumping inside from trees lining the sidewalk outside.

Well, Mubarak did something right.

Update:

--Protestors helped protect the museum:

One man pleaded with people outside the museum's gates on Tahrir Square not to loot the building, shouting at the crowd: "We are not like Baghdad." After the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, thieves carted off thousands of artifacts from the National Museum in Baghdad only a fraction of which have been recovered.

Suddenly other young men some armed with truncheons taken from the police formed a human chain outside the main entrance in an attempt to protect the collection inside.

"I'm standing here to defend and to protect our national treasure," said one of the men, Farid Saad, a 40-year-old engineer.

Another man, 26-year-old Ahmed Ibrahim, said it was important to guard the museum because it "has 5,000 years of our history. If they steal it, we'll never find it again."

Damn right. Next to lives, it's the most valuable thing in Egypt. It's an incredible place. What a nice story. Thanks to some troll in comments.

Update:

--Live streaming video from Al Jazeera in English. They showed some of the damage to the museum. The rioters got some of the priceless stuff, looks like. Thanks to Liberty Chick.

Update:

--Pictures of some of the damage to the museum. Here is one of them:

There are many more at the link, most better than this. You can see that the cases aren't really designed to keep people out. Thanks again to Liberty Chick.

Posted by: rdbrewer at 11:15 AM



Comments

1 Allahpander and Kirsten Powers are the Sources of the Day? C'mon, rd....


Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 11:19 AM (Ulu3i)

2 Maybe we will get lucky on this one.

If it works out well, of course Ebola will take the credit.

If not, The Palin/Bush/Cheney Triad of Doom is responsible.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 11:20 AM (n0WLs)

3 Oh, and first....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 11:21 AM (Ulu3i)

4 Kirsten types with her boobs.

Back off.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 11:22 AM (n0WLs)

5

the israel ambassador that was on fox news said suleiman was well respected inside and outside egypt (he didn't say within israel) he also said that he might not be accepted by the protesters because he was selected by mubarek......as a side note...i wonder if he's related to the octomom...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 11:24 AM (eOXTH)

6 If only he had invested in covering the pyramids with solar shingles, none of this would've happened.

Posted by: Stu-22 at January 29, 2011 11:24 AM (k4bdL)

7 We're so sorry.

Egypt is closed.

Please call again tomorrow.

Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 11:27 AM (n0WLs)

8 When you appoint your intelligence chief as your #2, doesn;t that signal everyone you're not planning on going anywhere? Just sayin...

Posted by: Sean at January 29, 2011 11:28 AM (RTMRC)

9
Kirsten Powers is the liberal version of S E Cupp, but lacking the hotness, tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (ZHsNw)

10 So Allahpundit's ex-imaginary girlfriend dumped him for an arab????

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (Ez4Ql)

11 i wonder what #2 thinks of gamal

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (eOXTH)

12 Powers can't even get coverage of this country right.

Posted by: CDR M at January 29, 2011 11:30 AM (5I8G0)

13 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM

Well said!

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 11:31 AM (Ulu3i)

14 Heh. OT but on CNN they have a video link talking about the Stripper shortage at the Super Bowl.

Posted by: CDR M at January 29, 2011 11:32 AM (5I8G0)

15 Suleiman is a racist. Everyone is a racist except me.

Posted by: Geraldo A Bonafide Republican at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (EL+OC)

16 If Kristen Power says it, well...

Brace for chaos, everyone!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (9hSKh)

17 So the problem we're facing is a secular strongman that's already been in power for 30 years rather than an Islamic mullocracy? I'm not sure what all the vapors are about over Mubarak.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (qdtoY)

18 8 When you appoint your intelligence chief as your #2, doesn;t that signal everyone you're not planning on going anywhere? Just sayin...
Posted by: Sean

And what does this guy think of the Muslim Brotherhood? And the Muslim Brotherhood of him? There has been a low level civil war going on between the government (since the time of Nasser) and the Muslim Brotherhood, and I'll wager that the MB does not think highly of Suleiman, as he has probably be ordering the struggle against the MB.
Clearly, Mubarak knows that they are the most dangerous element in the storm. The MB has tried to assasinate Mubarak on several occasions.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 29, 2011 11:37 AM (sJTmU)

19 I'm not sure the protesters know what they're getting into. They say their government is fine, they just want a new President but I think they'll find that if the Muslim Brotherhood takes control of the Presidency, their government will change, and not for the better.

Posted by: CDR M at January 29, 2011 11:37 AM (5I8G0)

20 Scribbler, Powers has had family there for a long time. If she's just repeating what they say, it's news. And the AP stuff? Minutes old.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (1cC24)

21 So the problem we're facing is a secular strongman
that's already been in power for 30 years rather than an Islamic
mullocracy? I'm not sure what all the vapors are about over Mubarak.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 11:34 AM (qdtoY)
Yeah. It's sort of funny. The whole world's favorite Egyptian, Sadat, was exactly the same as Mubarak.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (N49h9)

22 Kirsten Powers is the liberal version of S E Cupp, but lacking the
hotness, tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses.
Kirsten is cute, but she sure has gotten bitchy smug since she got married. SE Cupp is flat out smoking hot.

Posted by: Fox Girlz Rule at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (yARWD)

23 I laughed out loud when I read the header. Coffee is still dribbling form my chin.

Posted by: ac at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM (Brajx)

24 Thank you for calling Egypt, Home of the Mighty Pyramids.

Your call is important to us.

If you are calling for the Muslim Brotherhood, please press 1 now.

If you are calling for Al Qaeda, please press 2 now.

For all other inquiries press 0.


Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (n0WLs)

25 Powers is married to an Egyptian doctor and his family is all still therre. She just tweeted that they are hearing gunfire outside their home, but are not concerned because they have lived through unrest before.

Powers is right now a primary source because she has telephone communication with people in Cairo.

Also, Reuters reports Israel has evacuated most of their embassy and families and tourists. We have two ships heading in that direction "in case" evacuation becomes necessary.

Meanwhile, PJ Crowley of State made a comment about how this change in government isn't good enough. I swear to God, I think that Obama has organized this revolt and is backing the Muslim Brotherhood, at the instigation of Soros.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (Fo83G)

26 Interesting story in the Christian Science Monitor about protestors protecting the national museum in Cairo:

http://tinyurl.com/64h8qor

Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (4kpbt)

27 well now we know why Kristen Powers was hired, she an Egyptian.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:43 AM (p302b)

28 Wait until you see my next video!!

Posted by: Ayman al-Zawahiri at January 29, 2011 11:43 AM (y5tGs)

29 Down with Mubarack!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at January 29, 2011 11:45 AM (c5RQr)

30 Yeah. It's sort of funny. The whole world's favorite Egyptian, Sadat, was exactly the same as Mubarak.
Posted by: iknowtheleft

Sadat is safely dead, not just stunned. Mubarak is alive, for the moment. for whatever the reason, Mubarak has been luckier/smarter/whatever in evading assisination by the MB.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (sJTmU)

31 Also, at Tepid Air yesterday they had an article about drilling rigs leaving the GoM. Guess where some are going. Yep, Egypt. Thanks, Barry.4 buck a gallon? You'll be lucky if it stays that low.

Posted by: bigred at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (cX9pO)

32 Larry Kudlow is saying that this is all about wheat. He is saying food prices are inflated and the food prices there are very high. Problem is, with riots, one person can take to the streets for one reason and another person, right next to that person, can be there for a completely different reason. Makes you wonder what the regular Egyptian people want.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (p302b)

33 Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 11:38 AM

I'm just ridin' your ass, rd. And thinking that AP gets his worldview from the Interwebz and occasionally opening the blinds in his apartment, and even if KP does have contacts (hey, I have a friend whose son was in Egypt a couple years ago, so I'm an expert, too), she has to filter the info through her vapidity. But mainly I'm ridin' your ass.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 11:46 AM (Ulu3i)

34 the egyptian peoples assembly election in nov just got rid of the mb reps.....it seems a few of them were elected by running as independents

but the results were as follows:

209 seats for the NDP, 7 for independent candidates, two for the Al-Wafd party, and one each for the left-wing Tagammu' party, the Al-Ghad party, and the Social Justice party. Al-Ahram (Egypt), December 2, 2010

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 11:47 AM (eOXTH)

35 I'm curious, if they are sending ships just in case they have to get the Americans out of there, who took off in those three private jets. Cause weren't they saying Mubarek's son left two days ago for London.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:47 AM (p302b)

36 I wouldn't care if Powers was married to Mubarak. She's a left wing moron who would have been spouting in the 70's about how that nice Mr. Khomeini will undoubtedly lead Iran into a new golden age after that mean old Shah is out of town.

Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 11:47 AM (CUyJl)

37 Someone please explain how Powers has an "egyptian uncle" to me.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (Ez4Ql)

38 Kudlow? I heard that particular brand of idiot telling me a couple of weeks back on the radio that inflation was non-existent. Why, oh why, does anyone cite to him as an authority?

Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (CUyJl)

39 So the White House will condemn rhetoric in the US (and protests in Iran), but not actual violence in Egypt.

Egypt (ally) must change, Iran (enemy, avowed), well, wouldn't want to get involved there.

Yeah, I've thought the 'Obama's on THEIR side' spiel was overblown in the past (overlooking plain sheer incompetence), but this is pretty hard to think anything in this case other than Obama wanting the MB to take over.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (qdtoY)

40 One of my friends said that things are moving so fast there is no time to fact check that you just have to put it out and hope it is right. She actually said the best way to fact check is to put something out on twitter and see if real people confirm it. I was just shocked.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:50 AM (p302b)

41 Octomom will be Egyptian VP?

Oh, "Suleiman," not Suleman. My bad.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 11:50 AM (AZGON)

42 moi

she's married to an egyptian doctor...it's an uncle in law

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 11:50 AM (eOXTH)

43 Interesting story in the Christian Science Monitor about protestors protecting the national museum in Cairo:

http://tinyurl.com/64h8qor

Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 11:41 AM (4kpbt)
Meh. Arabs and muslims have an absolutely abominable history with artifacts of any sort. They have no respect, at all, for historical artifacts of their own and have always been exceedingly hostile to artifacts left from anyone else. If it hadn't been for the Westerners, or the lack of greater looting skill on the part of the arabs, there wouldn't be any Egyptian artifacts or any Cairo museum.Muslims have distinguished themselves in the protection of large rocks, though.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 11:50 AM (N49h9)

44 In Soviet Russia, high-speed rail invests in you.

Posted by: Yakov Jhurkov at January 29, 2011 11:51 AM (o0D5y)

45 ed, Her uncle backs Mubarak, because (and she repeated this) what will replace him will be worse.

That is not the administration line. So I am fairly sure she is reporting what her in-laws are saying.

All taken with a grain of salt, of course. I have had exchanges with her before on twitter, and she is polite and hasn't blocked me yet, unlike some of the lefties.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 11:51 AM (Fo83G)

46 Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM (CUyJl)

I wasn't "citing him as an authority"...I was putting out his opinion as something else to throw in the mix. the reason to listen to Kudlow is his callers, he has the ear of Wall Street and they all call him and that's where you learn little nuances.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 11:52 AM (p302b)

47 Powers walks like an Egyptian.

Posted by: wildwood at January 29, 2011 11:53 AM (VSWPU)

48 Man that sucks about the mummies.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 11:56 AM (pqsMB)

49 Thank you for waiting.

Your estimated wait time is *six* *days*.

Posted by: Egyptian Automated Message at January 29, 2011 11:57 AM (n0WLs)

50 What the appointment of Suleiman means is that the interior ministry will be taken over by the military. That's why the people were happy to see the military replace the police in the downtown areas. This signals that the entire cabinet will be drawn from the military.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 29, 2011 11:57 AM (gQF+b)

51 C'mon, let's be realistic: K Powers uncle by marriage is probably far more reliable than any of our media. Period. I say put Uncle Omar 's tweets up as Headline News.

Posted by: What the MSM wont tell you at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (FQn+U)

52
Kirsten Powers relative HERE.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (ZHsNw)

53 I guess all the SG-1 jokes are used up.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (n0WLs)

54 "moi she's married to an egyptian doctor...it's an uncle in law Posted by: phoenixgirl "

Thanks! That's what I thought.

"Powers walks like an Egyptian. Posted by: wildwood"

Ha! But can she do it nakid?

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (Ez4Ql)

55 When they turned the internet off, did that mean that Egypt changed to just Gypt?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 11:58 AM (N49h9)

56 "...tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses."
These beautiful words will forever be seared into my soul. Thank you.

Posted by: sherlock at January 29, 2011 11:59 AM (thr9V)

57 "...tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses."

If Ace did the same, he'd get a lot more respect.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 12:00 PM (Ez4Ql)

58 Palin/Cupp 2012!

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:00 PM (n0WLs)

59 Kudlow must have gotten a call cause he was blaming helicopter ben and all of a sudden he said "I want to emphasize that helicopter ben didn't cause the uprising in Egypt"

Coming up is an interview with Chris Christie. link

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:00 PM (p302b)

60 If the Egyptian Military takes over maybe they will crush the MB and gradually transition to a Republic.

Not betting the farm on it though.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:03 PM (n0WLs)

61
Palin/Cupp 2012!

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:00 PM (n0WLs)
Strong double D threats!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:03 PM (ZHsNw)

62 Events of the last week have demonstrated thatthe Egyptians do in fact have high-speed rails, as well as high-speed tar and feathers.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (5YgO+)

63 Ever wonder why Barry's first big speech was in Cairo?
Too bad Hosni didn't pick up on the need for high speed trains.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (alr7n)

64 so many people said the army would not shoot the people but I just heard on the radio news that they did shoot the people.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (p302b)

65 48
Man that sucks about the mummies.

Meh.


Here's the thing. There is so much abject poverty in Egypt, that I really can't get all outraged about looters. Yeah, maybe they were like our post-Lakers-victory/loss looters and just a bunch of thugs... or maybe they were dirt-poor folks who've been kept that way be a corrupt government. If the latter, then good for them.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (pW2o8)

66 I feel so bold.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (pW2o8)

67

So I get to witness the assassination of JFK, the Vietnam War, Watergate, The Iranian Revolution, the collapse of the USSR, Gulf War I, 9/11, Gulf War II, the Afghan War and what looks like the Egyptian Revolution.

Seems like there's always something going on.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (7+pP9)

68 The blog has suddenly become more bold...

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:04 PM (pqsMB)

69 oopsie

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:05 PM (1cC24)

70 I am emboldened to align myself with the pro-good-things wing of the protests.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (pqsMB)

71 A caller to Kudlow said that only the elites and the connected can buy property in Egypt. The caller said it takes three years and lots of red tape to even get close for the average citizen. Kudlow said "well that is because they have no private property rights". The caller said foreigners can't buy property at all. Made me so annoyed that the whole world buys our property and so many people are now losing their property.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (p302b)

72 Seems like there's always something going on.

How does it feel to re-live the 70's?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (9hSKh)

73 Egyptiain Protestor : We Protest because we do not like the way the Govenrment runs things...
Mubbyariak: Then I will fire my Government, and appoints instead my Head of SECURITY to run it! Yea, my Right Hand Man will change the Government, which I ran, into a better Government!

OK... do any of you NOT see the problem here...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (AdK6a)

74 A caller to Kudlow said that only the elites and the
connected can buy property in Egypt.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (p302b)
It's only been that way for some 5,000 years.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (N49h9)

75 A little boy was seen crying, in the museum.

He was looking for his mummy.

Posted by: Yakov Jhurkov at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (o0D5y)

76 I have to wonder why he couldn't get things squared away in the past thirty years.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:09 PM (alr7n)

77
I nominate Tariq Aziz to be released from the Baghdad prison and be placed in a position of power in Egypt. He did such as wonderful job advising Saddam, he can heal Egypt too!

Exit question: Is it possible to hang twice?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:10 PM (ZHsNw)

78 Now now, children, do be nice and play along! Don't make me call your father Imhotep!

Posted by: Mummy Dearest at January 29, 2011 12:10 PM (pqsMB)

79 Seems like there's always something going on.
Posted by: Ed Anger

Ya know, that's what I says. It's always somethin'!

Posted by: Rosanne Rosanadanna at January 29, 2011 12:10 PM (sJTmU)

80 OK... do any of you NOT see the problem here...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (AdK6a)

If there was no likelihood of the Muslim Brotherhood winding up filling any void of power in Egypt and turning it into a new Iran, I would be on the side of these protesters.

As it is, any democratic movement that might be operating here, should they depose the current secular government, would be overwhelmed by the Islamists in short order, and that would have very bad repercussions for the entire region and the rest of the world.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (qdtoY)

81 Where is Johnny Quest when you need him the most?

Posted by: wildwood at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (VSWPU)

82 Kratos, we have many signs of the 70's reappearing:

Egypt's 1979 re-enactment
Polyester knits resurfacing as a fashion fabric
The rise in home decor of avocado green, chocolate brown and orange colors
They are re-making Charlie's Angels
Inflation is rearing it's ugly head
Wide-legged pants and wide collars are starting to appear

Soon we will have gas lines and disco.

And the Misery Index.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (Fo83G)

83
Rosanne Rosanadanna, you ignorant slut!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (ZHsNw)

84 74 A caller to Kudlow said that only the elites and the connected can buy property in Egypt.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 12:06 PM (p302b)

It's only been that way for some 5,000 years.

You do know the real in real estate comes from the Spanish real->royal.
The meaning being the state (crown) owns the estate, but you get to pay tribute for the privilege of being allowed to "squat" on it, until the state (Kelo anyone) needs it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (alr7n)

85 "75
A little boy was seen crying, in the museum.

He was looking for his mummy.



Posted by: Yakov Jhurkov at January 29, 2011 12:08 PM (o0D5y)"
haha a three-fer. Joke = funny. Nic = funny. Hash = oO so funny.

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 29, 2011 12:12 PM (cQfrc)

86 If there was no likelihood of the Muslim Brotherhood winding up filling
any void of power in Egypt and turning it into a new Iran, I would be on
the side of these protesters
Yep.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:12 PM (pW2o8)

87 Hey nickless, you're back! You're unbanned!

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:12 PM (pqsMB)

88 "Thank you for calling Egypt. Your call is important to us. If you know your party's extension, you may write it down so the Jews won't steal it. For public order, press pound. For fair elections, press pound S-A-N-D. For all other business, please wait for a representative on the line.

Due to high call volume, the current wait time is forty years."

Posted by: Egyptian Help Desk at January 29, 2011 12:13 PM (AZGON)

89 Soon we will have gas lines and disco.

You know it, baby!

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:13 PM (pqsMB)

90 #40 She actually said the best way to fact check is to put something out on
twitter and see if real people confirm it. I was just shocked.

Nothing shocking about that. It's what the MSM does, run your mouth first, (maybe) check later. Think back to just the Gabriel Giffords shooting. She's dead (oh wait, no she's not). Shooter was a right wing fanatic (oh wait, no he's not). They do very little fact checking anymore.

Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:14 PM (bqjJT)

91 No, I'm proxying, and it's a pain in the butt.

I have to type my html in directly, and links get converted over to the proxy-url.

I'll re-send my info to Ace if it doesn't get fixed soon...

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:14 PM (qdtoY)

92 Rosanne Rosanadanna, you ignorant slut!
Posted by: Fish the Impaler
You seem to have made a ghastly mistake in identity!

Posted by: Jane Curtin, Weekend Update! at January 29, 2011 12:15 PM (sJTmU)

93 Bummer dude Can one of the cob-loggers fix your problem?

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:15 PM (pqsMB)

94 this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot
SAVE WRIGLEY FROM THE HEATHEN SOUTH SIDERS!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (uIQK6)

95 So the military takes control of Egypt. I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and suggest this might not be a great long term solution.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (TMB3S)

96
Rosanne Rosanadanna, you ignorant slut!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler
You seem to have made a ghastly mistake in identity!

Posted by: Jane Curtin, Weekend Update! at January 29, 2011 12:15 PM (sJTmU)
It was meant for both of you scrunts, and Velvet Jones too!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:17 PM (ZHsNw)

97 Miss Marple,
gas lines, ok
green refridgerators, ok
inflation, ok
Charlies Angels, if we must.
But please, for the love of God, not DISCO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bigred has seen too much at January 29, 2011 12:17 PM (cX9pO)

98 --You do know the real in real estate comes from the Spanish real->royal.


I was not aware of that. Thanks for the info. That will come in handy for many future comments.


--The meaning being the state (crown) owns the estate, but you get to pay
tribute for the privilege of being allowed to "squat" on it, until the
state (Kelo anyone) needs it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (alr7n)
Yep. I have often tried to make a point of the major difference between the view in the US and that in just about every other nation - even to this day - that for most nations they still look at their country as being property of the government. We were the big outlier in that ... until recently, as you point out (property taxes notwithstanding).

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:17 PM (N49h9)

99 94

this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot

SAVE WRIGLEY FROM THE HEATHEN SOUTH SIDERS!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:16 PM (uIQK6)

Are you kidding? If the rioting South Siders started to torch Wrigley, all the Cubs fans would say "you know? maybe the loser Cubs really aren't worth it"

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (pqsMB)

100 I don't know if the cob-loggers have server access, but at least I'm able to proxy for the time being.

Toby928 was banned on that glitched thread the other night, too. Could be others...

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (qdtoY)

101 Sulieman is a gangster, a real thug, who is just the man to kick the asses of communist student agitators without giving a shit about world opinion. and to restore order to that country. Well entrenched socialists, aka, progressives, aka, greenies, akacommunists fomented and exaserbated that revolt - not the Muslim Brotherhood.
Does anyone here seethe insideouslink between those progressives and the progressives in this administration? The ouster of Mubarak would have given this administration precisely the destabilization that they wanted to escalate and to advance their greenie agendaby making oil prices prohibitive.
Other Islamic states and even Israel are suppurting Mubarak for the stability of the region, though, in effectflashing The Obama Administration the bird all in unison. Another reason why Obama should be impeached.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (sYrWB)

102 JackStraw, It's not great long-term, but it's how Pakistan muddled through until they kicked Sharrif out (which has now made Pakistan less stable).

And it's better than the Muslim Brotherhood having the canal.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 12:18 PM (Fo83G)

103

How does it feel to re-live the 70's?


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:07 PM (9hSKh)
It's a real bummer of a flashback.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 12:19 PM (7+pP9)

104 This Egyptian stuff won't affect the availability of Japanese pron, will it?

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:19 PM (n0WLs)

105 Remain calm. All is well. Obama and his team is on the job. Relax. Remain calm. All is well.... News template for MSM...in one, two, cut to info babe.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:19 PM (fy8R6)

106 Being car-bound in sub-freezing weather for six hours can make a guy think. I counted my blessings. The situation could have been worse, I realized: My fellow commuters and I could have been trying to make it home in electric cars, like the ones President Obama is constantly promoting, most recently in his State of the Union address.

Posted by: Al Roker at January 29, 2011 12:20 PM (tvs2p)

107 Brian, I think the communists AND the Muslim Brotherhood are all in this together.

Both of them think that once they get control, the other side can be neutralized.

Muslim Brotherhood is stronger than you think.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 12:20 PM (Fo83G)

108 94
this would also happen in chicago if there was a riot
---
It's funny you mention Chicago, because I was thinking about it when mulling over the "value" of Egypt's antiquities.

Yes, they are amazing. A triumph of human achievement and a world treasure.

But how are they helping the average Egyptian? Tourism revenue? Well, maybe, but does that trickle down to the poor in Egypt?

Chicago was a great city after the fire than it was before.

Maybe Egypt needs to stop looking at - and protecting - its past (or, rather, the few great things from its deep deep past) and start focusing on the present and the future.

Museums and parks and prisitine wild spaces are things that rich societies can afford. Maybe they hold back poor societies.

Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:21 PM (pW2o8)

109 104 This Egyptian stuff won't affect the availability of Japanese pron, will it?

By pron, did you mean porn? Japanese hookers in school uniforms is just what is needed at this moment.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:21 PM (fy8R6)

110 One good thing here, I am beginning to realize how bloody stupid most of the commentators are (Fox included). They may look good, but I don't they have any brain cells to spare.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:21 PM (alr7n)

111 A few of my friends are on a tour of Egypt right now. They've been fairly safe as the tour was not overlapping the riot in any way. But because everything has continued to be crazy, they are looking for a quick way out.
Hopefully the boat thing for Americans is true and they can leave that way. At this point, I think they'd take a camel out.

Posted by: specious at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (KV25a)

112 "I have to wonder why he couldn't get things squared away in the past thirty years."

Islam.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (Ez4Ql)

113
No matter the outcome in Egypt, O'Dingo and Missy Rodham will still remit the billion and half dollars annually to "commence the healing." Bet on it!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (ZHsNw)

114 Geezus, y-not.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (1cC24)

115 By pron, did you mean porn?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:21 PM (fy8R6)

You are new here, I see.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:22 PM (n0WLs)

116 112 "I have to wonder why he couldn't get things squared away in the past thirty years."

Islam.

More likely the failure to build high speed rail!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (alr7n)

117 Egypt's 1979 re-enactment
Polyester knits resurfacing as a fashion fabric
The rise in home decor of avocado green, chocolate brown and orange colors
They are re-making Charlie's Angels
Inflation is rearing it's ugly head
Wide-legged pants and wide collars are starting to appear

Soon we will have gas lines and disco.

When Home Depot starts selling dark wall paneling with real wood-grain look, brace yourselves.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)

118 Hrothgar, I agree.

I spent quite a while yesterday on Twitter trying to convince them that this was a lot more important than the WTF initiative from Obama, and then that this wasn't like some student protest in Berkley.

They are all young and don't have any memory of the Carter years. I had to tell them to look it up and see the similarities between this and 1979 Tehran.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (Fo83G)

119 How many commie countries have high-speed rail, by the way?

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (qdtoY)

120 When Home Depot starts selling dark wall paneling with real wood-grain look, brace yourselves.
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)

Cell phones that play 8-track tapes.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (n0WLs)

121 99 all the Cubs fans would say "you know? maybe the loser Cubs really aren't worth it"
are you kidding? we are so in denial its not even funny
almost like this:
t: you were with that ho last night
me: nope
t: you're dead (while she's holding a gun)
me: nope
t: (after she's tied me to a chair, doused me in gas and has lit the match) you're done!!
me: nope
that level of denial

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (uIQK6)

122 #111 Reports say flights have been halted and tourists are stranded.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (Fo83G)

123 113
"No matter the outcome in Egypt, O'Dingo and Missy Rodham will still remit the billion and half dollars annually to "commence the healing." Bet on it!"

Typical dem foreign policy: Ivy Leaguers giving working stiffs money to foreign Ivy Leaguers. I don't know which is worse: journalism majors or state department wanna bees?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (fy8R6)

124 Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:11 PM (qdtoY)
Hmmmm ... guess I was not clear...
My point was that this is FAR from over....
Does Mubarik really think that giving his Right Hand Dude a PROMOTION is gong quiet the protests?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (AdK6a)

125 #107 Both of them think that once they get control, the other side can be neutralized.

The Iranian Communists that helped overthrow the Shah thought the same thing.

They were wrong. Dead wrong.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:25 PM (9hSKh)

126 Maybe Egypt needs to stop looking at - and protecting - its past (or,
rather, the few great things from its deep deep past) and start focusing
on the present and the future.
Well Chicago also doesn't have irreplaceable 3,000-year-old artifacts. They have obnoxious beer-swilling Cubs fans. Big difference.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:26 PM (pqsMB)

127 108 hmmmmm
y-not is making me think before my first cup of coffee

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:26 PM (uIQK6)

128

How many commie countries have high-speed rail, by the way?

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:24 PM (qdtoY)

Only Zamunda has high speed rail, thanks to the effort of King Jaffe Joffer.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 12:26 PM (ZHsNw)

129 I went to the Egyptian Museum back in '88. There is no way to describe how incredible their collection is. And I'm sure I only saw a small fraction of it. Most was probably rotated into storage, and I only had half a day to see the rest.
One thing I noticed was how flimsy some of the display cases were. If someone had wanted to break a large case of tourquiose and gold jewelry, it wouldn't have been hard. But that was half a life ago. Maybe it's been updated.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 12:26 PM (1cC24)

130 "They are re-making Charlie's Angels
Inflation is rearing it's ugly head
Wide-legged pants and wide collars are starting to appear"

End times folks, Old Testament stuff, cats and dogs living together.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:27 PM (fy8R6)

131 Sulieman has a reputation for being a brutish thug who has no aversion to torture..torture torture, not just making the prisoner uncomfortable.
...but if it's Allahpoundit's fantasy girlfriend Kirsten Powers' uncle, well then he's a great guy

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (AnTyA)

132 126 Well Chicago also doesn't have irreplaceable 3,000-year-old artifacts. They have obnoxious beer-swilling Cubs fans. Big difference
ummm, we make better spouses? i would ask the wife but her answer may shatter my fragile ego

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (uIQK6)

133 Anybody know of a pawn shop that will give me a good price for a mummy head?

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (0Hp4r)

134 If we're going back to the seventies, at least we'll be able to smoke on airplanes. If it's a blend of seventies and the twenty-teens, we'll be able to smoke dope.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:28 PM (AZGON)

135 I like all sorts of dancing. Disco was fun. It brought back the cha-cha, for one thing,

Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 12:29 PM (5bYzm)

136 When Home Depot starts selling dark wall paneling with real wood-grain look, brace yourselves.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:23 PM (AZGON)
Blacklight posters!On the serious side, a vote for B Hussein in 2008 was a vote to replay the 60's (as he was nothing but a representative of the same old 60's coalition of America-hating commies, idiots, and black militants) and it was clear at that point that this experiment in suicidal idiocy would end the same way the 60's ended, except that it would be 10000 times worse, since the radicals aren't just running around the streets causing problems, but holding all the levers of power. Brace yourselves.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:29 PM (N49h9)

137 Miss Marple-

I'm not sure why people keep assuming that the MB and the military are two distinct and unique entities. They aren't and never have been. There are strains of Islamist extremism in all facets of life in the Muslim world.

Bringing up Pakistan as an example does not exactly bring a lot of comfort. The Pakistani military and ISI (which is the functional equivalent of where Suleiman is coming from ) created the Taliban and funded and still funds terror.

This is not an improvement.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (TMB3S)

138 133 Anybody know of a pawn shop that will give me a good price for a mummy head?

Does your mummy give good head?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (fy8R6)

139 114
Geezus, y-not.

I know it sounds bad, but I am not saying it or effect or to be a prick. I'm serious. What is the economic and political value of Egyptian antiquities? It's not obvious to me that they are helping average Egyptians -- and by average Egyptians I mean the poor that we all want to forget exist.

A bunch of years ago my husband was doing book promotions. One of the books was written by an economist who analyzed the real economics of having a major professional team come into a city. Everyone always touts how it's great for the city, but this guy's research (which was ultra-scholarly and very rigorous; I think he was an NBER economist) demonstrated that it actually hurts a city economically.

Now that's not necessarily a reason to not have a pro sports team, but I guess what I'm saying is that something like that is the sort of thing a society can support if it is healthy and robust economically.

Maybe Egypt would be better off if it held a huge garage sale and sold off its antiquities. Or leased them. Or something.

And maybe Detroit would be better off without the Lions, Tigers, Redwings, and Pistons.

Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (pW2o8)

140 I can still keep stealing the credit for the discovery of all of the Antiquities, right?

Posted by: Zahi Hawass at January 29, 2011 12:31 PM (Kmnx0)

141 Well Chicago also doesn't have irreplaceable 3,000-year-old artifacts

That's no way to talk about Mayor Daley.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:31 PM (AZGON)

142 "magnificent ass" - I just love seeing those words.

Posted by: sherlock at January 29, 2011 12:32 PM (thr9V)

143 When Home Depot starts selling dark wall paneling with real wood-grain look, brace yourselves.
College son calls to tell me about how his apartment for next year has these great wood walls!....... Each generation has to make it's own mistakes.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:32 PM (0Hp4r)

144
Thanks to JEA in comments.

he's a troll, fucknut

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 12:32 PM (BPptn)

145 I can't believe that the octomon is the VP of Egypt.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 12:32 PM (Kmnx0)

146 Egypt smells and Chicago is windy. So maybe there is a connection?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:32 PM (fy8R6)

147 How does it feel to re-live the 70's?

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I graduated high school in the mid '70's so I do have some fond memories of that era, and they might even include an occasional fond memory of disco;-)

Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:33 PM (bqjJT)

148 Just so everyone realizes I do have a soul, one of my favorite places was the Oriental Institute at the University of Chicago. I know how awe-inspiring these things are. And I am, at my core, a humanist (although not a secular humanist) -- so I really treasure what we have accomplished over thousands of years.

It's just that I think that something is a little wrong when we are more worried about a couple of destroyed mummies than we are about the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping.

Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:34 PM (pW2o8)

149 If we're going all seventies, I have the perfect right-hand man for Mubarak: Charles Nelson Reilly.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:34 PM (AZGON)

150 Does Mubarik really think that giving his Right Hand Dude a PROMOTION is gong quiet the protests?

It might, if it's actually being driven by forces like MB or communists that could be isolated by putting the intelligence chief in charge of the military. If it's a genuine people's uprising, probably not without real brutality.

Well, either way, it's probably going to get rough, but so would a revolution. And Sharia.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:34 PM (qdtoY)

151
And I hate fucking mummys.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 12:35 PM (5ql/p)

152 148 the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping
you think they would riot and overthrow the government
oh wait..........

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:35 PM (uIQK6)

153
Has anyone pointed out that this is Obama's Shah/Iran moment?

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 12:35 PM (5ql/p)

154 147 How does it feel to re-live the 70's?

Well, if we are correct, don't we need to air drop a shit load of blow and bad music on the place? A kind of BEEGEE assault.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:35 PM (fy8R6)

155 I had better get a cut of this action. I've got an agent, people.

Posted by: Brendan Fraser at January 29, 2011 12:36 PM (AZGON)

156
Woah. Anyone listening 'live' to the accounts of the looting?

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 12:37 PM (1rflU)

157 One thing I noticed was how flimsy some of the display cases were. If someone had wanted to break a large case of tourquiose and gold jewelry, it wouldn't have been hard. But that was half a life ago. Maybe it's been updated.
Grave robbing was a national pasttime there. Like, since the dawn of time! The populus views the theft of funerary items and the antiquities as one of the worst crimes against the state.
When people are caught robbing antiquities graves the penalties are quite profound. Think of the fate of child molesters in the general population of a prison. It's like that.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 12:37 PM (Kmnx0)

158 142
"magnificent ass" - I just love seeing those words.

I'm getting kind of tired of it myself.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 29, 2011 12:37 PM (pNQJY)

159 you think they would riot and overthrow the government

Is that who is rioting?

And who is doing the looting?

If the folks doing both are the underclass of Egypt and not a bunch of Islamists or Communist or outside agents, then bully for them. Let them steal the antiquities to fund their revolution. It's their history as much as it is Mubarek's.

See what I'm saying?


In the story about the citizens protecting the antiquities, the person they referred to is an engineer. I bet he has indoor plumbing.

Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:38 PM (pW2o8)

160 For Sale! One Day only! Real LIVE Egyptian Mummies!
Will ship for a nominal Fee!

Posted by: Craig's List, Cairo at January 29, 2011 12:38 PM (AdK6a)

161 No surprise that the fleeing Mubarak family would choose England as their Muslim country of exile. Well done!

Also, after researching past speeches and declarations, as well as unconfirmed private meetings, it appears our all-knowing President was right about Mubarak all along! Smart power, baby!!!!

Posted by: Shoppy at January 29, 2011 12:38 PM (KdEbQ)

162
Interesting that the protesters defended the museum. I would take that as a sign that the Islamists haven't co-opted the revolt just yet. Islamists really hate Egypt's attachment to all that pre-Islamic shit. Seriously, destruction of Pharaonic artifacts and such has always been on their to do list.

Posted by: Ronsonic at January 29, 2011 12:39 PM (UFJvm)

163 /philosophical mode off

Sorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.


153
Has anyone pointed out that this is Obama's Shah/Iran moment?

Yes, Col. West.

From his FB/Twitter:
Parallels are disturbing: 1979- Carter, Iran, Shaw, Ayatollah. 2011- Obama, Egypt, Mubarak, Muslim Brotherhood

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:39 PM (pW2o8)

164 Maybe Egypt needs to stop looking at - and protecting - its past (or,
rather, the few great things from its deep deep past) and start focusing
on the present and the future.

Yeah, nothing that happened before the birth of Mohammed is important...why should anyone bother?

Was thinking today about the recent trend of returning antiquities from European and American collections to the countries from whence they came (in the 18th and 19th centuries, before it was realized primative societies were actually more enlightened than the West). I'm pretty sure it will continue, because it's more important to not "look racist" than to keep pre-Islamic objects from being destroyed.

Fun fact: Ground-up mummy bodies were used for black ink during the Rennaissance.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (4ucxv)

165 I'm guessing that the antiquities are a major source of national pride and identity. Really what would that whole region be without it's ancient past? Does harkening back to it hold their society back or give them a sense of identity where they feel at least as valuable as more advanced societies? I don't think that is an appreciation for and an investment in their past that holds them back. It's their specific religion that holds them back and the degree to which they adhere to it.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (0Hp4r)

166 I know it sounds bad, but I am not saying it or effect or to be a prick. I'm serious. What is
the economic and political value of Egyptian antiquities? It's not
obvious to me that they are helping average Egyptians -- and by average
Egyptians I mean the poor that we all want to forget exist.

Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:30 PM (pW2o
It has nothing to do with whether the antiquities help the average Egyptian or not. It doesn't matter. Arabs and muslims have NO RESPECT for historical artifacts. NONE. If anyone wants something historical preserved, having it in an arab country is almost a guarantee that it will eventually be looted, melted down and sold. We have seen this play out around the arab world (what happened in Iraq was not an anomaly in any way). They even pull this shit in Jerusalem, on the Temple Mount.You know why the Dead Sea Scrolls are in a bunch of little pieces? Because arabs were offered to be paid by the piece for them, so they would find large scroll parts and break them up to make more money.Islam has no respect for history and arab cultures have never had any respect for history, either. The only things that have ever been important to them are large rocks.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:40 PM (N49h9)

167 It's just that I think that something is a little wrong when we are more
worried about a couple of destroyed mummies than we are about the filth
and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope
of escaping.

Well that's the same thing Adam Smith talked about when he wrote that we cry more when we prick our finger than if an earthquake were to swallow up all of China. The priceless Egyptian artifacts have value to us and our culture. Poor Egyptian yooths? Not so much.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 12:41 PM (pqsMB)

168 Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical at January 29, 2011 12:34 PM
Should change that to "Y-not is making sense."

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 12:41 PM (Ulu3i)

169 159 i was kidding
the only concern i have out of this whole mess is the price of gas and if the muslim brotherhood will take over
as far as the antiquities go, i'll hush on my opinion of that...its kind of not nice

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 12:42 PM (uIQK6)

170 Thanks to JEA in comments.

Wow, shout-outs to asshole trolls now.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM (STZ9e)

171 "...Another measure of reform I pledge to enact is protection and restoration of our national treasures. I will move quickly with a program to refit the Great Pyramid of Giza with new shag carpet and wicker swag lamps of the highest quality. I will also direct the Antiquities Bureau to provide the subterranean chambers with a rec room, complete with pinball machine, wet bar with pictures of dogs playing poker, and a 24" TV with Pong console. A color TV, my friends."

Posted by: Hosni Mubarak at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM (AZGON)

172 @168
I think I made more sense in the later post:
163
/philosophical mode offSorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM (pW2o8)

173

You know who could fix this?

Tom Friedman.

All he has to do is put on his 'serious face' and say two or three sentences of college-sophomore-sounding jejune phrases.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 12:44 PM (BPptn)

174 Not watching the coverage, been on travel these last days. Has the media been able to bring Sarah Palin in on this? Did she say something to start all this incivility? Damn bitch is a wrecking crew. Thank God for Obama. Obama Akbar!!!

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:44 PM (fy8R6)

175 Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM (pW2o8)

176 Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM (pW2o
Peace be upon him.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (N49h9)

177 PBUH = Peace be upon him (him being Mohammed, usually)

Posted by: C.S Lewis at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (RHFUq)

178 And maybe Detroit would be better off without the Lions, Tigers, Redwings, and Pistons.
Posted by: Y-not is being philosophical

Detroit's problems are from the downsizing and out sourcing of the auto factories and their supply chains to Mexico and Canada, and elsewhere (right to work states) and their falling market share of auto sales, largelydue to the omnipresent reactionary antics of the UAW. This then led to white-middle class abandonment of the core city of Detroit, and the rise of the present cleptocracy minority- ledcity government.
So yeah, cleptocracy governments everywhere will promote the circus of professional sports and their associated coliseums, to the detriment of any sort of honest development and private enterprise business growth. And stillhave the chimera of "popular government" to give it the Good Housekeeping seal of approval.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (sJTmU)

179 Great, one of the biggest asshole douchebag trolls who I'm sure got his link from either Kos or whatever Obama's propaganda site is called, I'm sure is honored.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (0Hp4r)

180 Y-not, perhaps the value of antiquities to the Egyptian on the street is the tourism value, which brings foreign hard currency in and gives Egypt what little economy it has.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (qdtoY)

181
btw, the news never mentions this but Obama has American hostages in Iran for far more days than Carter.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (BPptn)

182 Or "Praise" ... I'm not sure.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (N49h9)

183 Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:45 PM

Peace Be Unto Him.

(That lets you and all moronettes out, Y-not.)

Or: Peanut Butter Under Ham.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 12:47 PM (Ulu3i)

184 Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means

"Peanut butter upon hummus."

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:47 PM (AZGON)

185 A few of my friends are on a tour of Egypt right now. They've been fairly safe as the tour was not overlapping the riot in any way. But because everything has continued to be crazy, they are looking for a quick way out.
Hopefully the boat thing for Americans is true and they can leave that way. At this point, I think they'd take a camel out.
Posted by: specious

Do you have communications with your friends? If so, tell them to contact the American Embassy Cairo immediately, so that
A) the Embassy is aware of American citizen presence (theirs) and
B) they can be worked into the warden system, so that they can work on arrangements for helping them get out.

If the tour company is good, they have contingency plans for just this thing, but in my experience, Egyptian tour companies are simply not that good. Even the expensive ones. If the Embassy doesn't know they are there, they can't help them. And surprisingly, this is one thing the consular officers will manage pretty well. Also, tell your friends to stock up on water and sustainable snacks (nuts, granola bars, etc) because wait times will be really long for any exiting flights/bus rides. Especially if they have to travel through hostile areas. Tell them to dress to be inconspicuous, don't get loud in complaining etc, and keep their heads down.

I don't mean to be alarmist or sound panicky, but this could turn even worse than it already is, and I have memories of Americans trapped in Kuwait after Saddam Hussein invaded in 1990. Also of Tehran in 1979. Will pray for their safety, and their safe return home as well.

Posted by: moki at January 29, 2011 12:47 PM (dZmFh)

186 PBUH = Peanut Butter Under Ham

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:47 PM (qdtoY)

187
Or: Peanut Butter Under Ham.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 12:47 PM (Ulu3i

Damn, that's disturbing.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:48 PM (qdtoY)

188 PBUH= Peace Be Upon Him, required to be said at the mention of Allah or any other revered islamic scumbag

Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 12:48 PM (FQn+U)

189 163
/philosophical mode offSorry, guys. Clearly I need to get laid.

No, no. Not engaging in decadence = increased brain power. What's more important anyway?

(This was a plot line of a Seinfeld episode, if memory serves me correctly).

175
Can someone tell me what PBUH stands for? I always see it and I never know wtf it means.

PBUH - Peace Be Upon Him (Mohammed)

Or, Piss Be upon Him,

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 12:49 PM (9hSKh)

190 171
"...Another measure of reform I pledge to enact is protection and
restoration of our national treasures. I will move quickly with a
program to refit the Great Pyramid of Giza with new shag carpet and
wicker swag lamps of the highest quality...


Posted by: Hosni Mubarak at January 29, 2011 12:43 PM


You should paint them white to reduce global warming. While I'm thinking about it, it would also be a good idea for you to paint all that sand white.

Posted by: Steven Chu at January 29, 2011 12:49 PM (pNQJY)

191 "I don't mean to be alarmist or sound panicky, but this could turn even worse than it already is, and I have memories of Americans trapped in Kuwait after Saddam Hussein invaded in 1990. Also of Tehran in 1979. Will pray for their safety, and their safe return home as well."

Remain calm. They don't get the $2B check if any Americans are hostages. Follow the money.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:49 PM (fy8R6)

192 At this point, I think they'd take a camel out.

Did that, Friday night. We're going out next week too.

Posted by: Ali from match.com at January 29, 2011 12:50 PM (AZGON)

193 I still think that Mubarak's sons should head to anon islamic country for their own safety

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (0Hp4r)

194 180
Y-not, perhaps the value of antiquities to the Egyptian on the street is the tourism value,

Yeah, I assume that's the value (aside from the cultural value).

But after learning about the economics of major sports in the U.S., I have become a little skeptical about assuming that tourism dollars flow through/down to the people who need them. I mean, if the government and society are corrupt/totalitarian, then I don't know if the dollars accomplish what we'd all hope they accomplish.

Thanks for the PBUH explanations!

Off to Cabelas to see if I can find the dog a dog bed. She has decided to use our living room chairs which is not on!

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (pW2o8)

195 PBUH - Perky Breasts Upon Her

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (STZ9e)

196 The peasants are revolting!

Posted by: Count de $ at January 29, 2011 12:51 PM (ExJPq)

197 Off to Cabelas to see if I can find the dog a dog bed. She has decided to use our living room chairs which is not on!

Foolproof trick: When you get the dog bed, start using it yourself. Then your dog will covet the thing and you get your chair back.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:52 PM (AZGON)

198 Re: #81.

No doubt. Race Bannon would open up a can of Mummy WhoopAss.

Posted by: Sean at January 29, 2011 12:52 PM (RTMRC)

199 196 The peasants are revolting!

Just remember, peasants are cheaper to keep than slaves.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (fy8R6)

200 Piss Be Unto Him.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (Kmnx0)

201


Damn, that's disturbing.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:48 PM

Great minds, dude. Great minds....

Posted by: MrScribbler has the fastest comebacks at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (Ulu3i)

202 Mubarak should have slaughtered the Muslim Brotherhood when he had the chance.

It sucks that the world still has to live with the billion+ followers of that false prophet Mohammad. A 6th century murderous,child rapist schizo warlord named Mohammad hears voices and 1400 years later we still have to live with the consequences.




Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 29, 2011 12:53 PM (QcFbt)

203 Foolproof trick: When you get the dog bed, start
using it yourself. Then your dog will covet the thing and you get your
chair back.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 12:52 PM

That works with pooches? I know it's surefire with kittehs....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 12:54 PM (Ulu3i)

204 I understand your point, Y-not, but, say the artifacts are sold and largesse distributed. In a week, Islamic shithole conditions would prevail. Remember the functioning greenhouses and other assets the Israelis left intact after withdrawing from regions. The Palestinians trashed it all immediately.

Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 12:55 PM (beZqk)

205 I mean, if the government and society are corrupt/totalitarian, then I don't know if the dollars accomplish what we'd all hope they accomplish.

Tourists need cabs, tour guides, food, hotels, souvenirs, etc. You're right, corruption might eat up a lot of the cash coming in, but there's still jobs to be had from all that activity.

Other than tourism, what industry does Egypt have?

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (qdtoY)

206 I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when that sleazy creep in the White House talked with Mubarak yesterday.
The course of events show that, contrary to what that compulsive and pathologicalliar said to save faceduring his press conference yesterday, hemost certainly did notsternly lecture Mubarak, who isn't a man to whom someone can lecture anyway, or someone who will back down to a pimp.
A much more likely scenario was that Obama asked Mubarak to step down, and Mubarak politely told Obama to go fuck himself. Today's events validate my suspicions, and so now the Obama Administrationand their slimy shills in the MSM arefrantically back-peddling and bullshitting to weasel their way out of their complicity in a revolt that is fizzling on them.
BTW, CNN, The Communist News Network is completely distorting the events which are occurring in Egypt -deliberately, not inadvertently..

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (sYrWB)

207 202 You forgot syphilic

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (0Hp4r)

208 Kicking a dead horse on the antiquities front, people can just think back to the Pali terrorists who holed themselves up in the Church of the Nativity, desecrated the place on purpose, abused the monks, pissed and shit all over the place, used it as a firing base ... and no one in the arab world cared one iota.

It should be kept in mind that whenever muslims or arabs fight, the first thing they look to do is destroy religious places and precious artifacts, even against other muslims (and they don't care about destroying their own, either). Scorched Earth is a deeply imbedded cultural strategy in the arab/persian/muslim world, because they don't value anything other than forcing submission. The fact is that Westerners value most other people's artifacts far more than they do and we also value their lives far more than they do, which is just plain stupid.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (N49h9)

209 "Remember the functioning greenhouses and other assets the Israelis left intact after withdrawing from regions. The Palestinians trashed it all immediately."

Have you seen Detroit lately?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (fy8R6)

210 PBUH= Please Be Utterly Hateful

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 12:57 PM (AdK6a)

211 Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 12:55 P

Actually, as a non-humanist grouch, I'd prefer brooming the peasants and hanging on to the antiquities....

Same goes in D.C.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 12:57 PM (Ulu3i)

212 .As of August, it seems that Sulieman had fairly wide support in Egypt, which did not include the MB. Strong military history and named top spook in the region, topping the Mossad. So, let's hope he can calm the street down...
Also, a chief negotiator with the US, Israel and the Palestinkians.
That said, Osamabama will hate him.

Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 12:57 PM (FQn+U)

213 Mubarak playing a dangerous game.

He has pulled police and traffic cops in order to create chaos. I have lived in Egypt. These guys are on every street corner in Egypt. Or they were. Mubarak wants to show the Egyptian people that only HE can restore order. Mubarak has sent out his thugs disguised as criminals to threaten the security of the people so they will focus on their personal security instead of protests.

Egyptians have great respect for the Army. Mubarak is setting the Army up to fail. He wants to show the Egyptian people that the Army, who they have placed so much faith in, cannot defend them. This will not go down well with the Army leadership.

Posted by: Shoppy at January 29, 2011 12:57 PM (Z12xM)

214 Saw some correspondent on TV "partially blame" the Israel/Fakestinian balls up as a catalyst for all this. He obviously has an advanced degree in Journalism and Poly-sci foreign affairs from the Helen Thomas Community College of Falls Church.


/Timmy Thomas youtube link posted without comment.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 29, 2011 12:59 PM (MxETE)

215 Frankly, I don't care what happens to any of the Egyptians.
I can't believe that we are being told this is a great democratic uprising. A true democratic uprising requires an educated populace with some level of participatory government. This may seem racist, but the American Revolution falls into this category. That is not what is going on in Egypt. Note that even the Canadians (in very similar circumstances) never really disentangled themselves from the Crown.
There are almost certainly Egyptian patriots that want a free country, but none of them are Islamists, thus they are inconsequential. Mubarak and Suleman may be able to keep the lid for a bit, but the well funded Caliphate enthusiasts (thanks King Saud) are on the march.
This will NOT end well, as Communism and Islam do that to countries they control.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:59 PM (alr7n)

216 Great, one of the biggest asshole douchebag trolls who I'm sure got his
link from either Kos or whatever Obama's propaganda site is called, I'm
sure is honored.

Does this mean you guys want to buy a calendar?

How about a cook book?

Mint 1st edition Greene Man comic book?

Posted by: Chubbles Johnson at January 29, 2011 01:00 PM (o0D5y)

217 I don't have any recollection of JEA. S/he coughed-up the link to the very nice CSM article. Am I supposed to delete the credit now that I know s/he's a troll?

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:00 PM (1cC24)

218 PBUH= Please Be Utterly Hateful

Wins prize for most accuracy.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:01 PM (AZGON)

219

Other than tourism, what industry does Egypt have?

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 12:56 PM (qdtoY)
The Suez Canal, which the Egyptians are lucky other people came to build, that they then stole - just like the gulf oil fields.
Another interesting note on Egyptian love of artifacts. They drowned quite a bit of priceless ancient Egyptian history with the Aswan-High Dam, without even batting an eyelash.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:01 PM (N49h9)

220 Roger that brooming, Scribbler.

Posted by: texette at January 29, 2011 01:01 PM (beZqk)

221 "PBUH" isonomonopia. It'sthe sound people make when they spit.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:01 PM (1cC24)

222 This give me chills.
I wonder if the seed was planted when the Muslims helped by being human shields to let the Coptic Orthodox Christians have a easier Christmas after a massacre a few days before. I hope all the Christians and Churches are not a main target for damage. If they are, the riots would have to have a religious mode and be bad because the Brotherhood will have control.Lets hope the churches are treated like the museum and get the protectors regardless of religion.

Posted by: Tjexcite at January 29, 2011 01:02 PM (0oLjq)

223 Zahi Hawass negotiating with National Geographic to cover his recovering of his Egyptian antiquities. Passing out paint brushes and trowels to rioting mob.

Posted by: Buffalobob at January 29, 2011 01:02 PM (GwH6h)

224 This will NOT end well, as Communism and Islam do that to countries they control.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 12:59 PM (alr7n)
Yeah, its interesting that everyone thinks these are Pro Western Democracy Protests...
History.... Nazis had large scale protests.
Communists in Russia? Protests.
French Revolution? Mob Protests which brought down multiple Governments.
I think this is a case of wishful thinking by the Administrtion, and those who spin for it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:02 PM (AdK6a)

225 You know, getting your picture taken during an anti-government riot is not something any straight thinking mooselimb would do. I am pretty sure the Egyptian "Homeland Defense" people are busy cataloging their future interviews. I wonder if the pressies ever think of that when they broadcast?

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 01:03 PM (fy8R6)

226 PBUH - Please Build Us High-speed rail/

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:03 PM (Kmnx0)

227 PBUH= Please Be Utterly Hateful

New keyboard and towel, my doorstep, stat.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:04 PM (AZGON)

228 226 PBUH - Please Build Us High-speed rail/

You win the high speed rail coment of the day AFAIAC

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:04 PM (alr7n)

229 Am I supposed to delete the credit now that I know s/he's a troll?

Yes.

Also delete the little fuck's posts.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 01:05 PM (STZ9e)

230 Other than tourism, what industry does Egypt have?
Cotton....and terrorism training

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:05 PM (AnTyA)

231 Waterhouse do a lot of people have this fainting spell?

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:05 PM (1cC24)

232 @226

Yeah, I screwed up. I meant to quote garrett. Made me howl.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (AZGON)

233
JEA has been trolling this place for a few years.

It's a nasty little shit, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (BPptn)

234 Fainting spell? Don't blame me that you're ignorant of a regular troll on this site.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2011 01:06 PM (STZ9e)

235 JEA, you're voted off the island. Sorry, pal.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:07 PM (1cC24)

236 They drowned quite a bit of priceless ancient Egyptian history with the Aswan-High Dam, without even batting an eyelash.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:01 PM


---

They moved as much of the good stuff as they could before they built the dam because tourism and flies are all they've got.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (MxETE)

237
keep this up and I'll be calling you rddrewer

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (BPptn)

238 215 Frankly, I don't care what happens to any of the Egyptians.
---------------------------------------------

Frankly, I hope that you are carjacked, shot dead, and dumped on the roadside.

I am not serious, of course, but how does your inhumanity feel when it's thrown back in your stupid face?

Posted by: A1 at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (Z12xM)

239 I try not to pay attention to them, Waterhouse.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:09 PM (1cC24)

240 Soothsayer, you're welcome to go fuck yourself.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:09 PM (1cC24)

241 you know, i'm getting ready to put a couple laptops up for sale
i wonder if i can add some mummies to the ad?

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:09 PM (uIQK6)

242 PBUH= Proceed Bastard, Unto Hell

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:10 PM (AdK6a)

243 Always wanted to see the pyramids and stuff. Can't now. Thanks Jimmah!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 01:10 PM (c5RQr)

244 be able to keep the lid for a bit, but the well funded Caliphate enthusiasts (thanks King Saud) are on the march.


This will NOT end well, as Communism and Islam do that to countries they control.

Posted by: Hrothgar
I bet King Faud is getting his diaper changed hourly. This does not bode well for the King. OBL wants this to happen in S.A. just like his right hand man, Egyptian doctor Zawahiri wants for Egypt.

Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (FQn+U)

245 If there was no likelihood of the Muslim Brotherhood winding up filling any void of power in Egypt and turning it into a new Iran, I would be on the side of these protestersI suspect that they are actually behind the protests. In Egypt, a substantial portion of their GDP comes from tourism.MB terrorists killed several touristsin Luxor a few years ago, and continually make threats, so they damage the tourism of Egypt. Then, as the economy goes south, they gain the unwitting support of the poor to overthrow the current regime. Once the regime is gone, they install their own dictatorship to fill the void.Look atRussia 1917-1921, France 1789-1805, etc. and you will see the same scenario. The totalitarians, whether marxist or muslim theocrats,don't take advantage of a power vacuum, they create it, and dupe the common man into assisting them.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (9Uxl0)

246 That live stream from Al Jazeera ain't bad.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (1cC24)

247

I am not serious, of course, but how does your inhumanity feel when it's thrown back in your stupid face?

Shut the fuck up and fuck you.

How does that feel?

Is today Asshole Day at AoS?

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:13 PM (5ql/p)

248 ncj - Did you watch 'Somewhere Back in Time' with the little one last night?
As soon as I saw Dave Murray spin his axe around his back, I thought of your little rock star.
Does she need some Strap-Loks?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:13 PM (Kmnx0)

249 Look on the bright side - this may be something comparable to the Orange or Rose Revolution. All mooselimb countries are autocratic. Consensual government was never a go with hadji. Its in their DNA. Its why they are expected to pray 7 times a day, sp the mullahs can get a head count and see who strays.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 01:14 PM (fy8R6)

250 I am not serious, of course, but how does your inhumanity feel when it's thrown back in your stupid face?

Posted by: A1 at January 29, 2011 01:08 PM (Z12xM)
You care far more about Egyptian lives than Egyptians do. Does that make you feel morally superior, or something?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:14 PM (N49h9)

251 Is today Asshole Day at AoS?
I'm here pretty much every day, thanks.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:14 PM (Kmnx0)

252
okay, rddrewer.

you're now the 3rd worst blogger at AoS

Any more lip from you and you'll be demoted to 2nd worst.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:15 PM (5ql/p)

253 Is today Asshole Day at AoS?
Well you're here!

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 01:15 PM (1cC24)

254 Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 01:12 PM (9Uxl0)
One "indicators" the Press and many pundits seem to be missing... it that they are gathering at MOSQUES, and then marching on the Public buildings...
Not a good sign IMO.
Westerners no longer understand the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we kinda threw it out during the Reformation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:16 PM (AdK6a)

255 You do know the real in real estate comes from the Spanish real
nah....that's just coincidental..
Real today means "actual". The older English meaning is more like "pertaining to"...Latin root is "res"

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:16 PM (AnTyA)

256 # 238 = Obvious troll is obvious.

Posted by: Palin Steel at January 29, 2011 01:17 PM (o0D5y)

257 Well, at least it isn't Appendix Day at AoSHQ. Seems harmless most of the time, but then it swells up and bursts, killing the blog.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:18 PM (AZGON)

258 From Breaking News Twitter

Rising death toll in Egypt protests: Cairo 25; Suez 38; Alexandria 36 - Al Jazeera

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 01:18 PM (9hSKh)

259 Westerners no longer understand
the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we
kinda threw it out during the Reformation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:16 PM (AdK6a)
Ataturk did his best to explain it to the West.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (N49h9)

260 Al Jazeera isreporting thatlooters found with State badges and weapons.

El Baradei: "Egypt is in a state of collapse."


Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (L00d6)

261 #219 - Statues, columns, entire ruins, etc., were meticulously cut up and reassembled on higher ground while that dam was being constructed. Nothing of any significant value was lost when that basin was flooded.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (sYrWB)

262
tangible, real, concrete

ant: abstact,

and there's intellectual property

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (5ql/p)

263 --Mubarak Obama--

Dunno. Just has a ring to it.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:20 PM (AZGON)

264 O/T: I'm thinking about getting a smartphone on a pre-paid/no-contract basis, like through Virgin Mobile or Cricket or something. Any recommendations from the Moron Horde?

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:21 PM (pqsMB)

265 Yah, rdbrewer, the ALE stream is interesting.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:21 PM (AZGON)

266 248 nope, and i think she grew out of stage tricks
she's in her room playing black-ops with her cousins but she needs to be practicing for tomorrow, she's supposed to be learning to use her pinky for soloing...the oversized frets and her tiny finger spread makes it rough cause you can side fret but she doesn't have the finger strentgh yet

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (uIQK6)

267 "Westerners no longer understand the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we kinda threw it out during the Reformation."

Good point, but remember we have a lot of Catholics in our country now. To see how it worked out elsewhere just look to Central and South America. Those Protestants, they make great stuff.

Posted by: Krugman: NOBEL at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (fy8R6)

268 Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at January 29, 2011 12:46 PM (sJTmU)
Bestsuccinct description/explanation on the sitch in Detroit I've seen.

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (AnTyA)

269 El Baradei: "Egypt is in a state of collapse."
So, here's some kindling, kerosene,and matches.
Now go set yourselves on fire in a public square.

Posted by: El Baradei with Pockets Full of MullahBucks at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (Kmnx0)

270 there is a reason looters should be shot on site...they are evil

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (eOXTH)

271 Ok, my conspiracy theory based on nothing but the voices in my head.

Mubarak's party "wins" a highly rigged election a few months ago. People are pissed.

Presidential elections are scheduled for this fall and Mubarak positions to put his highly corrupt stooge of a son in office. People get more pissed.

Suleiman is seen as a good alternative but he is prevented by law from taking the job (active military officer, not the head of his party) and other alternatives keep getting squashed. People lose their shit.

Barry, no stranger to thug tactics, calls Hosni and tells him that we will turn off the cash that funds his military unless he puts Suleiman, a western trained intelligence officer with broad knowledge of the region, in power.

Mubarak flushes his gov't and for the first time in decades, since he himself was VP, Hosni appoints Suleiman VP and likely successor. The army replaces the police in the streets and the transition of power continues.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (TMB3S)

272 Westerners no longer understand the Intersection of Religion and Politics that Islam embraces... we kinda threw it out during the Reformation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:16 PM (AdK6a)

Ataturk did his best to explain it to the West.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (N49h9)

There was a reason for the Crusades, but it was deemed politically incorrect.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (alr7n)

273 Westerners dont understand that Islam IS the government. How many people do you know that actually KNOW what the unholy qoran requires of its forced adherents?
How W ever thought democracy and Islam could meld is beyond me. Iraq, I concede, because it was secular, had the best chance of becoming a democracy. However, it is quickly regressing to another sh*t hole theocracy. Islamics require authoritarian control. They do not have the education or intrinsic belief in freedom because islam is shoved down their throats from birth. Someone said, I think Golda Meir, that until islamics love their kids more than they love death, they will never be able to self-govern.

Posted by: What the LSM Wont Tell You at January 29, 2011 01:23 PM (FQn+U)

274 I don't have any recollection of JEA. S/he coughed-up the link to the very nice CSM article. Am I supposed to delete the credit now that I know s/he's a troll?
I've been waiting for 2 weeks for JEA to provide the links showing that Fox, Rush, and conservative blogs get all of their information and marching orders from oppressive corporate capitalist powers. So after he provides those then he can work on providing other links. Seems fair.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:24 PM (0Hp4r)

275 @264
Thinking same thing too, I don't use cell phone enough to justify my contract any longer. Wifey has Virgin and it's no worse than other carriers as far as I can tell, but she doesn't use the phone much either. You have to do most account stuff online, and I've read that customer service is poor; OTOH it's cheap at $25 per month flat, and there are no other taxes to turn $25 into $30.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:24 PM (AZGON)

276 Stratfor says the Egyptian border guards have abandoned the Gaza border and Hamas has been streaming in to team up with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 29, 2011 01:25 PM (QcFbt)

277 the oversized frets and her tiny finger spread makes it rough cause you can side fret but she doesn't have the finger strentgh yet
My dad still has no pinkie for solos.
Get her a Raquetball to build strength and teach her to stretch out her hands.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:25 PM (Kmnx0)

278 If the MFM is saying that the MB is not behind this, well then I am inclined to believe otherwise

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:26 PM (AnTyA)

279 #219 - Statues, columns, entire ruins, etc., were
meticulously cut up and reassembled on higher ground while that dam was
being constructed. Nothing of any significant value was lost when that
basin was flooded.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 01:19 PM (sYrWB)

Some sites were cut and reassambled, including major tourist sites, but signifcant amount did get flooded--For instance, there was a network of very large ancient Egyptian forts that's now completely covered with water.

Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 01:26 PM (9r1ux)

280 277 good idea on the raquetball, will do
she thinks she has the stretch already because she's "george lynch with better hair"
my women amaze me

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:27 PM (uIQK6)

281 For instance, there was a network of very large ancient Egyptian forts that's now completely covered with water.
Underwater Antiquities Based Tourism!

Posted by: Zahi Hawass - Bog of Douche at January 29, 2011 01:28 PM (Kmnx0)

282 Hmm. Can't open Stratfor. Slammed?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:29 PM (AZGON)

283 The western intellectuals and elites simply cannot fathom that are people that just don't think like them, despite significant evidence to the contrary. Thus they are sure that ANY country can institute a government complete with intellectuals and elites controlling the levers of power and skimming off billions in tax dollars for their cronies (sort of like the way we run things here). The fact that there are a billion plus people that have been indoctrinated into a complete submissive authoritarian life style via the writings of a probably insane pedophile completely passes over their heads!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:29 PM (alr7n)

284 she thinks she has the stretch already because she's "george lynch with better hair"
There are some table-top excercises that will help her limber up...I'll look around today and see if I can find a link to them. I've seen a few on Guitar Boards re: Hand Surgery / Injury Recovery.
If I find the ones I am thinking of I will bookmark them and link them on an ONT.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:30 PM (Kmnx0)

285 One of the books was written by an economist who analyzed the real economics of having a major professional team come into a city. Everyone always touts how it's great for the city, but this guy's research (which was ultra-scholarly and very rigorous; I think he was an NBER economist) demonstrated that it actually hurts a city
Y...I think it actually had to do with the city subsidizing the arenas for the sports teams

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:31 PM (AnTyA)

286
We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.

Will it be hot dogs and condiments? Maybe it will be hunting?

Or maybe guitars?


Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:31 PM (BPptn)

287 284 many thanks

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:31 PM (uIQK6)

288 286 sorry

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:32 PM (uIQK6)

289 So the new curfew is 4PM to 8AM.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:32 PM (AZGON)

290 I always felt that the right to a publicly funded sports team complex was enshrined somewhere in the Constitution, but I can't remember where.

Probably next to the Article that guarantees sky-boxes for life for the pols that fund this crap.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:33 PM (alr7n)

291 The western intellectuals and elites simply cannot
fathom that are people that just don't think like them, despite
significant evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:29 PM (alr7n)
Exactly. It's funny that the Western leftists who constantly scream about cultural relativism act as if the whole world thinks just as the West does. They even go so far as to think that cross-cultural empathy is some sort of accurate gauge. It's also funny how these same Western "cultural relativists" keep calling everything that passes through their pea-brains "universal values".Cognitive dissonance. It's where the left lives.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:33 PM (N49h9)

292
Not a complaint. Just an observation and an idea, joe.


Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:33 PM (BPptn)

293 God you dumb knuckleheads will only be happy until every "mussie" is dead huh? Racist tea bagging knuckleheads.

Posted by: knuckleheads stupid knuckle at January 29, 2011 01:34 PM (guyRL)

294 It's also funny how these same Western "cultural relativists" keep calling everything that passes through their pea-brains "universal values".

Doublethink. I invented it.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:35 PM (AZGON)

295 meh - it wouldn't be AoSHQ if every thread didn't devolve into trivial shit

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:36 PM (pqsMB)

296 291 The western intellectuals and elites simply cannot fathom that are people that just don't think like them, despite significant evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:29 PM (alr7n)

Exactly. It's funny that the Western leftists who constantly scream about cultural relativism act as if the whole world thinks just as the West does. They even go so far as to think that cross-cultural empathy is some sort of accurate gauge. It's also funny how these same Western "cultural relativists" keep calling everything that passes through their pea-brains "universal values".

Cognitive dissonance. It's where the left lives.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 01:33 PM (N49h9)

The liberal relationship set is:
I have values and they are good.
You have values, thus they must be good.
Therefore all values are equal.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:36 PM (alr7n)

297 What is the seed, the catalyst that launches a new thread? Is it discussions of cats? Longbows?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 01:37 PM (AZGON)

298 There was a reason for the Crusades, but it was deemed politically incorrect.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:22 PM (alr7n)
Yeah... its going to be intresting when Christian Men, suddenly get angry enough to realize that the Religion has been wimpified way beyond what was intended...
When will it be time to throw the MoneyChangers from the Temple...
When will it be time to sell our Cloaks, to buy a Sword...
Its coming... and its going to be ugly.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:38 PM (AdK6a)

299
The Western elites, as you call them, view all non-whites as victims...even in their own counties.

Can you imagine traveling with a college-campus leftist intellectual to Egypt or Mexico or Somalia? They'd spend their time feeling sorry for the locals because they're victims of the White Man.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (5ql/p)

300 We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.Or maybe guitars?
OK..I'll start...and go with guitars cuzjust this morning I picked up an un-used, but scratched,Epiphone Les Paul Standard for $99.00

Posted by: beedubya at January 29, 2011 01:39 PM (AnTyA)

301 I'd like to see the left wrap their inane little minds around the fact that these mohammed worshipers have been breeding with their first cousins for hundreds and hundreds of years. Couple that with a religion that represses thought, encourages murder, subjugates at a minimum half of society, and revels in hatred and death and you get something less than human.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:40 PM (0Hp4r)

302 Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:40 PM (0Hp4r)
======
But... but but but.. Christianity is the evil one. They started the crusades!!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (c5RQr)

303 Is that erg being stupid on his own, or is it someone filling in for him while he's out?

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (qdtoY)

304 ""Hosni Mubarak's two sons Alaa and Gamal have arrived in London."

In time for a quick shower and off to the nightclubs!

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (Ez4Ql)

305 Interesting. Iran is just begging for a beating.

http://tinyurl.com/4tt5zxr

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 01:41 PM (TMB3S)

306 Obviously events (like trolls) can still go badly, but today's news so far is vastly more positive than I expected - maybe we get a few more years after all.

I said early on that the street protesters may have been mainly genuine reformers but ultimately it didn't matter because the MB was playing the background - I guessed that ElBaradEi was one of their cards and it looks like he's out of play, which is good news.

Maybe (if we're lucky) this has spun out of the MB's control. They're crafty but also more cautious than other groups, they have been slow on the uptake in the past. Maybe they thought *too* long-term this time.

Need to find out more about Suleiman, but while press coverage is nothing to actually base your decisions on it's nice to see stories about protesters protecting heritage sites. Gives everyone a moment of "feel-good" during this crap.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 01:42 PM (bxiXv)

307
The first principle of campus group thinktm: All non-whites are oppressed people.

Everything they do, say, and think is based on that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:43 PM (5ql/p)

308 Hmmm.... interesting thought...

We know that the "Races" have evolved due to environmental reasons, and survival of the fitest (if you're a Darwinian).... and that Species are constanly in competitiion to see which one will survive...

Is the same thing happening with Cultures? ie... take Russia for instance... it ALWAYS devolves to what is essentially a Monarchy (whether you call them Aristocrats, or Party Members)...

Mid East, ALWAYS devolves into Religious conflict...

And then there is the failry new Ideas of Freedom and Self determination coming from the West.... which are under attack.

Is a Clash of cultures an inherent trait of any Darwinian worldview?

And by NOT recognizing that Clash is inevitable (under their own Darwinian worldview), are Western Elites commiting Suicide?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (AdK6a)

309 PBUH - Pigshit be upon him.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (ffZ9M)

310 I love that crusade complaint from the libs. Always ask them what religion Jerusalem was pre-islamists. Even they know that. Then you get at the real root of their problem with not embracing the islamists.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (0Hp4r)

311 In time for a quick splash of Drakar Noir shower and off to the nightclubs!

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 01:46 PM (Kmnx0)

312 I suspect this has been posted before, but anyway: below is a link toan article in Telegraph UKclaimingcovert support and encouragement for the Egyptian uprising by the Obama regime. Sincethis goes back to at least December 2008, perhaps it is yet another policy continued from the Bush years. Or, the State Department has been operatiing as a power unto itself - again.
Perhaps this is sidebar-worthy.
http://tinyurl.com/5vyfso8

Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning regime change for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 01:46 PM (5YgO+)

313 Per the antiquities link up top: I was in Cairo a few years ago on business, and I had a little free time to spend in the city - I picked the Pyramids to visit over the museum. Bad choice, apparently, as the Pyramids are a whole lot more difficult for looters to destroy.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (9Uxl0)

314
btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?

Honduras, Iran, and now Egypt. Who else?

Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (5ql/p)

315 While I was at my little cow-town grocery/bait store the clerk asked how I was doing.

My 5 year old told the clerk, 'Mom's worried about E-Gypt!'

Clerk looked at my son and asked him (not me), 'Why, did a plane crash or something?'

We are boned until our (younger) kids are old enough to vote. The tween set gives me little hope.

Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (penCf)

316 Think Cairo speech by O

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (alr7n)

317
Obama meddled in Afghansitan's election, too.


Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (BPptn)

318 We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.

Big knives are shiny.

Posted by: 1,000 Ghurkas at your doorstep at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (o0D5y)

319 293 God you dumb knuckleheads will only be happy until every "mussie" is dead huh?
or prison.....yeah, that works for me yep yep

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:49 PM (uIQK6)

320 314btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?Honduras, Iran, and now Egypt. Who else?
Posted by: Soothsayer at the end of the bar, rambling to hisself at January 29, 2011 01:48 PM (5ql/p)
The European Union.
And Venezuela.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (5YgO+)

321 310 I love that crusade complaint from the libs. Always ask them what religion Jerusalem was pre-islamists. Even they know that. Then you get at the real root of their problem with not embracing the islamists.
Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:45 PM (0Hp4r)
Yeah, could you imagine if someone started a NEW Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon ... ie the Templars...
The Howling from the Elites would be hears all the way to Temple Mount...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (AdK6a)

322 Look on the bright side - this may be something comparable to the Orange or Rose Revolution

Yeah, well on the other hand, I remember seeing something similar to this happen in Iran a little over 30 years ago. It did not end well.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 29, 2011 01:50 PM (R88Ry)

323 hdgvdbabdsxghbxvbzxnxhjhhuyhdsududtydyudydgfyu

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (0Hp4r)

324 BTW, CNN, The Communist News Network is completely distorting the events which are occurring in Egypt -deliberately, not inadvertently..--Posted by: Brian
Yes, not that the left's ingrained, kneejerk anti-American toneoozing from their commentary is surprising in the least. Yesterday one ofCNN's correspondents on the ground in Egyptwent out of his way tomakewhat he imagined to be aVeryImportant Point that a tear gas cannister fired by the Army had"Made in the U.S." stamped on it. Similarly the New York Times which described Mubaraks government as American-backed, thus by snide implication making America somehow responsible for all the evils putatively committed by Mubaraks government simply by virtue of the fact that Americarecognizes the existence of Mubaraks government and deals with it in terms of realpolitik.

Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (L00d6)

325 275 @264 I rarely use cell, too. Therefore, I go with the trakfone and just got a LG420 for $10. It has internet access and a camera - both of which I don't need. It came with double minutes for lifetime. So, every 90 days I fork over $20 bucks an get 120 minutes which is added to my roll over minutes. I currently have 471.3 minutes. From what I understand, it uses AT&T's towers and I have had no problems with reception and I live in an area known for bad reception due to the geography.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (Ez4Ql)

326 Multiculturalism's greatest conceit is that only Western culture is war-like, intolerant, and corrupt, and that it's greatest crime is diminishing all other cultures.

All other cultures are portrayed as victimized by Western dominant culture, requiring the deference of Western culture and values to those of the more authentic non-white peoples.

Leftist intellectuals are racists/culturists, but self-loathing ones, and it leads them to exalt the same people and cultures that would have no problem beheading them.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (qdtoY)

327 is dagny's cat sleeping on the keyboard?

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 29, 2011 01:52 PM (uIQK6)

328 btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?

Are we counting just the ones he's personally bowed to?

Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 01:52 PM (9r1ux)

329 well now we know why Kristen Powers was hired, she an Egyptian.

Type like an Egyptian... with your boobs!

French Revolution? Mob Protests which brought down multiple Governments.
But the French invented democracy... I'm confused.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 29, 2011 01:53 PM (mHQ7T)

330 We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.


How about cold titties?

Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (penCf)

331 Sorry, 6 year old thinks he's funny

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (0Hp4r)

332
momma?

Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (5ql/p)

333 Years ago, it was trendy to claim that your neighborhood was "multicultural." But all that means is that it is high crime.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 01:55 PM (Ez4Ql)

334 323
hdgvdbabdsxghbxvbzxnxhjhhuyhdsududtydyudydgfyu

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 01:51 PM (0Hp4r)

You are channeling Keefums again?

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 01:55 PM (pqsMB)

335
momma do you think they'll drop the bomb?

momma do you think they'll like the song?

Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 01:55 PM (5ql/p)

336
momma do you think they'll try to break my balls?


Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 01:56 PM (5ql/p)

337 btw, anyone keeping count of how many evil dictators the Obama admin has supported while their people went batshit crazy?



Oh! I know! I know! Pick me! What is America for $1,000 Alex?

Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 01:56 PM (penCf)

338 "French Revolution? Mob Protests which brought down multiple Governments."

And 60,000 decapitations!

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 01:56 PM (Ez4Ql)

339 Always ask them what religion Jerusalem was pre-islamists.

I bet most libs would tell you that Islam is the oldest religion and that Christianity is just trying to invade the Mid East. Their heads would probably explode if you told them Christianity was there centuries before.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2011 01:57 PM (qdtoY)

340 Mommy, Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?

Posted by: MISFITS at January 29, 2011 01:59 PM (Kmnx0)

341 Look in the Mirror, America: WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES

http://www.practicalstate.com/?p=4932

Cheers

Posted by: Muckraker at January 29, 2011 01:59 PM (6K81O)

342 Their heads would probably explode if you told them Judaism Christianity was there centuries before.
fixed for maximum offense

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 02:01 PM (Kmnx0)

343
Look in the Mirror, America: WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES





Is that a real transcript? No way. Right?

Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 02:03 PM (5ql/p)

344 Al Jazeera isreporting thatlooters found with State badges and weapons.

El Baradei: "Egypt is in a state of collapse."




I'm thinking Omar has a nice thick file on how much Tehran has been paying El Baradei over the years; and blaming this on "those crafty Shiite bastards in Iran" with a perfect fall guy already under house arrest, isn't a bad way out of this mess.


Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2011 02:04 PM (CPefM)

345 Semi-OT: Lawmakers call on Obama to veto anti-Israel UN resolution



"A bipartisan group of top-ranking lawmakers is calling on the Obama
administration to veto an 'anti-Israel' resolution being pushed by
Palestinian leaders at the United Nations.



In a letter to President Obama, House Republican Leader Eric Cantor and
Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer joined other officials in claiming the
proposed resolution was 'without merit' and should be publicly
condemned."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:05 PM (sZ+lP)

346
Leading off tonight: Unrest in Egypt. Proving the Iraq war wasn`t needed these protests in Egypt, as well as in Yemen and Tunisia, are all aimed at dictators supported by the U.S. The
demonstrations have not yet turned anti-American, but they could. These
are the events the Bush administration hoped to encourage by lying about
weapons of mass destruction and invading Iraq. A live report from
Richard Engel at the scene coming up. And we`ll stay on this story
throughout the hour as events warrant

Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 02:09 PM (5ql/p)

347 Senior Obama aide: "We're not so sure" Mubarak can hang on


A senior Obama administration official,
meanwhile, said Friday evening that Mubaraks speech was hardly
conciliatory and highly disappointing, but what did you expect?

Its clear, the official said speaking on condition of anonymity
because of the sensitivity of the matter that Mubarak believes he can
ride this out, and this time, were not so sure that is the right
assumption.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM (sZ+lP)

348
The above is Chris "Malari Brain" Matthews' prelude to his show yesterday.

The protesters haven't turned anti-American...yet...but they will when they realize it was America's and specifically George Bush's meddling and lying that caused all their problems.

Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM (5ql/p)

349 wow that was spooky, comments disappeared for a while

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:14 PM (pqsMB)

350
Their heads would probably explode if you told them Judaism Christianity was there centuries almost two millenia before.

fixed for maximum offense

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 02:01 PM (Kmnx)
refixed for maximum offense

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:16 PM (N49h9)

351 Remember when Biden said Obama would be tested and people wouldn't think he was doing the right thing?
I hope to God this isn't another one of those times.

Posted by: Palandine at January 29, 2011 02:16 PM (g7D8V)

352 All is well! All is well!

Posted by: Mubarak Obama at January 29, 2011 02:17 PM (AZGON)

353 Grrr ... OVER two millenia before.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:18 PM (N49h9)

354 264
O/T: I'm thinking about getting a smartphone on a pre-paid/no-contract
basis, like through Virgin Mobile or Cricket or something. Any
recommendations from the Moron Horde?

I've been on T-Mobile for about three years now. I do pre-paid. After you hit the $100 mark, you get 15% more minutes, and they last for a year.

Just got an unlocked smartphone and put my TMobile sim card in it.

Posted by: shibumi at January 29, 2011 02:18 PM (OKZrE)

355 O/T: I'm thinking about getting a smartphone on a pre-paid/no-contract basis, like through Virgin Mobile or Cricket or something. Any recommendations from the Moron Horde?
------------
Iphone is coming for Verizon this year.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 02:20 PM (c5RQr)

356 Armed looters with Central Security IDs...Businesses and hospitals being looted...Children's Cancer Hospital looted...Clashes at/in a Prison...Thugs with knives, chains...Complete breakdown of law and order.
Al Jazeera reporter: "I received calls from hospitals in Egypt by doctors telling me they have been told not to record deaths by bullets"
Meanwhile, reporting byU. S. media outletsis pathetic, giving little but endless, repetitive droning commentary. whlie U.S. diplomats are tweeting foreign policy.
Now Al Jazeera is receiving frantic calls for help from the Egyptian populace, asking where they shouldgo and what to do.

The only answer, of course, is that they're on their own.


Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 02:22 PM (L00d6)

357 38

Kudlow? I heard that particular brand of idiot telling me a couple
of weeks back on the radio that inflation was non-existent. Why, oh
why, does anyone cite to him as an authority?

Posted by: ed at January 29, 2011 11:49 AM

It is non-existent! As proof, I've cut the price of my newsletter and web site subscriptions by 5 percent!

BUY! BUY! BUY! BEFORE YOU'RE PRICED OUT

Posted by: Jim Cosmo Cramer at January 29, 2011 02:22 PM (vdfwz)

358 O/T: I'm thinking about getting a smartphone on a pre-paid/no-contract basis, like through Virgin Mobile or Cricket or something. Any recommendations from the Moron Horde?
------------
Iphone is coming for Verizon this year.

That will be with contract, although I heard some rumor about Verizon selling it at an unsubsidized price which would make it off contract... except the price will be well over $1000.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:24 PM (AZGON)

359 Gold and Oil futures are high.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 02:24 PM (c5RQr)

360 348

The above is Chris "Malari Brain" Matthews' prelude to his show yesterday.

The
protesters haven't turned anti-American...yet...but they will when they
realize it was America's and specifically George Bush's meddling and
lying that caused all their problems.


Posted by: Pink Soothsayer at January 29, 2011 02:12 PM

Yes, they saw Sarah Palin's targets and saw Michele Bachmann blinking in code to them. Give me a damn minute, I'll work that into the story

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at January 29, 2011 02:25 PM (vdfwz)

361 Speaking of thread jacking, let's talk about Charlie Sheen. First he's rushed to the hospital and is in serious condition. Then we are told that he has heartburn. Next, we are told that he is back in rehab.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 02:29 PM (Ez4Ql)

362 147
How does it feel to re-live the 70's?

It
was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I graduated high
school in the mid '70's so I do have some fond memories of that era, and
they might even include an occasional fond memory of disco;-)



Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 12:33 PM

The 70s ; Feel it now

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 02:29 PM (vdfwz)

363 At Tahrhir Square in Cairo, no one is observing the curfew, you can see it on ALE's stream.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:30 PM (AZGON)

364 Iphone is coming for Verizon this year.

No offense - but I'd rather use soup cans and twine before I'll use an Apple product.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (pqsMB)

365 let's talk about Charlie Sheen. First he's rushed to the hospital and is in serious condition. Then we are told that he has heartburn. Next, we are told that he is back in rehab.

Why do I suspect his rehab regimen consists of six blowjobs and a bottle of Romane Conti per day?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (AZGON)

366 No offense - but I'd rather use soup cans and twine before I'll use an Apple product.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM (pqsMB)
Hear, hear!And that goes double for any google products.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:32 PM (N49h9)

367 I'd rather use soup cans and twine

We've got that!

Posted by: AT&T at January 29, 2011 02:33 PM (AZGON)

368 BTW, I didn't mean to be confusing above. It was almost two millenia for Jerusalem and over two millenia for Hebron.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 02:33 PM (N49h9)

369 LiveLeak has some videos, though most of them are from yesterday or earlier today (US time zones). Here's the Twitter feed for Egypt.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:35 PM (sZ+lP)

370 Al Jism-ra reporting that police used live ammo to control crowds, in Alexandria perhaps?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:35 PM (AZGON)

371 Demint considering Prez run. So I have somebody else to consider.

Go ahead start your bashing. but he's a good option from my POV.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (xdHzq)

372 No offense - but I'd rather use soup cans and twine before I'll use an Apple product.


Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 02:31 PM

Cool, hip, ironic, and I can reel in the Andy Warhol fanboys. I love it!

The Yes i-Can

The Macolytes will be lining up for blocks for days before they go on sale!

Now, back to you, Meester Bond ...

Posted by: Steve Jobs at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (vdfwz)

373 It's not really bashing until someone drops the P bomb... Palin!

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (AZGON)

374 If I hurry I can still bang that princess in the Cleopatra getup before this all turns to shit

Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 02:38 PM (vdfwz)

375 And you were all worried that I killed that hot chick on Argellius II. Keep the Captain's Log in your pants, Jim.

Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 29, 2011 02:41 PM (AZGON)

376 "...made his intel chief and close confidant his VP..."

Really? In the Middle East? Perish the thought!

When Arab despots name their intel chiefs to positions of prominence, you know the writing's on the wall. This guy knows the contours of Mubarak's soul in a fundamental sense our own hierarchy can't imagine. Mubarak is giving power to the one guy he really, really doesn't trust, only to keep that guy quiet.

My line: Mubarak and family in Switzerland by February 7, and a young, (Saudi-compliant), Western-educated technocrat promising to "undo the decades of despotism." Of course, he'll fail, and probably be assassinated. Rinse, repeat.

Posted by: railwriter at January 29, 2011 02:41 PM (daRzV)

377 Well it's certainly precient for Matthews to point out that the not yet seen anti-american sentimentis really anti- george bush sentiment and not anti-barak obama sentiment, before it happens. Way to get ahead of that story Chrissy. We all know that GWB invaded Afghanistan for oil.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 02:42 PM (0Hp4r)

378 If the thugs already haven't been on the streets, they will be now. When law and order break down, it's everyone for themselves. Unfortunately, that means looting In a country where one hell of a lot of people are dead poor.
This is not going to have a good end.

Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 02:43 PM (6oDXl)

379 It is certainly disconcerting to see the understandable resentment over eight years of the Bush administration's unilateral attitude turn into violence on Egyptian streets. This will need another four years of Democratic presidency to solve.

Posted by: David Gregory at January 29, 2011 02:44 PM (AZGON)

380 330 We need to hold contests each day called Today's Shiny Object at AoStm where we pick what subject will derail a thread.How about cold titties?
Posted by: momma at January 29, 2011 01:54 PM (penCf)

You raise some interesting points. Two, in fact.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 02:48 PM (XBM1t)

381 I got the blue screen of death. Karap.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 02:50 PM (PSKdh)

382 The egypt twitter feed ruined by stupid palin jokes.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 02:51 PM (0Hp4r)

383 I'd rather use soup cans and twine before I'll use an Apple product.

Apple stuff is generally stylish, but not very robust in the internal mechanical design aspects.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2011 02:53 PM (oHdHd)

384 Well, if Osamabama is channeling killer-rabbit fighting Jimmah, and this is his Iranian revolution moment, who is going to be the next Reagan?

Posted by: nostradamus at January 29, 2011 02:53 PM (ngvie)

385 374 If I hurry I can still bang that princess in the Cleopatra getup before this all turns to shit
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 02:38 PM (vdfwz)
Really? /eyes glow

Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 02:54 PM (AdK6a)

386 The "human chain" protecting the antiquities museum:

http://tinyurl.com/4mcm659

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:55 PM (sZ+lP)

387 How about somebody throw up a cheerleader thread for old times sake?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 02:56 PM (xdHzq)

388 384 She who must not be named.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 29, 2011 02:56 PM (UwPP4)

389 Claudia Black as Katesh.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (oHdHd)

390 Or that one chick in the stands everybody liked so well.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (xdHzq)

391 #376 - Sulieman has been extremely loyal to Mubarak for the past 18 years, even more loyal and more trustworthy than Mubarak's own sons are. and Sulieman is a ruthless strongman and enforcer with access to the best intel in the Middle East, imo. BTW, Mubarak's sons didn't "flee" to Great Britain. Mubarak got his family to safety, because he intends to make a fight of it, and the odds are in his favor that he will win, imo. His worst, most devious and most treacherous opponents are the Obama Administration, not the communist student agitators in Egypt, nor the Muslim Brotherhood, nor any other Islamic dissident factions in the Middle East, imo.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (sYrWB)

392 Now a small rally in-favor of the demonstrators in Boston. It was organized via Facebook.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (sZ+lP)

393 Demint considering Prez run. So I have somebody else to consider.

Go ahead start your bashing. but he's a good option from my POV.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (xdHzq)
-----------------
meh. He just seems to be stirring the pot.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (c5RQr)

394 Lemme tell you, Kirk is no Mubarak.

Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 29, 2011 02:58 PM (AZGON)

395 Al Jazeera isreporting thatlooters found with State badges and weapons.

El Baradei: "Egypt is in a state of collapse."


While I really should know better than to take Al Jazeera at its word, if you're Mubarak, this is the perfect plan--Withdraw any form of security from the populace, have some high profile anarchy such as the museum looting, and count on people eventually begging your regime to stay to keep order.

Yes, I now feel like the conspiracy nuts who kept yelling "false flag!!!11" at the World Trade Center a few years back. On the other hand, these are the actions of an actual dictatorship we're talking about instead of a pretend one.

Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 02:58 PM (9r1ux)

396 His worst, most devious and most treacherous opponents are the Obama Administration

And his best ally will be Israel. Undoubtedly Israeli intelligence agents penetrated the Egyption MB before they made this move.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2011 02:59 PM (oHdHd)

397 Most lawyers are no better than these slime that destroy 5000 years of history ... our lawyers will brag about stealing land from feeble old folk's families, and form lawyer cabals to help destroy hard working folks that aren't protected by a connected lawyer.

Why do we think our "power players" are any better than these scumbag marauders?

Posted by: bill at January 29, 2011 03:03 PM (VGEci)

398 Anti-mubarak protestors in DC and SF and probably elsewhere mucking up traffic. Bottomupinsideout

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:04 PM (0Hp4r)

399 You don't think the Taliban would melt down all Tut's gold?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 03:07 PM (DLxD/)

400 Twitter feed is full of criticisms about Sulieman and his "secret activities". Also, a few idiots are suggesting a sit-in as a means to get Mubarak to resign.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:10 PM (sZ+lP)

401 385 374 If I hurry I can still bang that princess in the Cleopatra getup before this all turns to shit
Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 02:38 PM (vdfwz)
Really? /eyes glow
Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 02:54 PM (AdK6a)
Go ahead, my captain. Have your trifling trysts with exotic women. I know who'll be at my cabin door during those long, lonely warp speed runs across the universe. None of those other girls know how to wring out every last iota of command stress from you, holding you on the edge of forever.Yes, I will pout until you smooth my ruffled feathers of jealousy, but smooth them you will. For you can not resist my charms. Remember to get checked out by McCoy before you come a knocking at my door. I'll keep it warm for you, tiger.

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:11 PM (XBM1t)

402
Fox reporting the Crisis Response Team assembling in the White House with Joe "Numbnuts" Biden advising.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:13 PM (ZHsNw)

403 I wonder how many people are reading this and thinking "where did I go wrong, how come I don't make this kind of money and I work my ass off"

On the issue of Egypt, is it common practice for the person in power to leave all the country's money there when they leave or do they take it out of the country and then the people have to track it down and try to take it back?

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:14 PM (p302b)

404 Twitter has loads of islamists protesting in brotherhood with egypt. Tools all over the world using this as an excuse to burn, loot, and haul out their anti-american crap.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:16 PM (0Hp4r)

405
Fox News has a great statesman speaking about Egypt. Well, statesman in his own mind if you're Alan "Skeletor" Colmes.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:16 PM (ZHsNw)

406 I'm sort of worried about that beehive hairdo Yeoman Rand always has. I think she might have a bomb in there, or cold leftovers.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at January 29, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)

407 >>Apple stuff is generally stylish, but not very robust in the internal mechanical design aspects.

internal mechanical design aspects like what?

Posted by: railwriter at January 29, 2011 03:17 PM (daRzV)

408 I have a confession to make: Last night, I watched The Black Swan. What a god awful movie! I can't believe it is getting all these nominations. Sheesh!

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:18 PM (Ez4Ql)

409
Where's the fabulous S E Cupp when you need succinct and reasoned analysis? Also a marvelous pair of double D's.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:18 PM (ZHsNw)

410 Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 02:57 PM (sYrWB)
Key is going to be which way the Army goes...
There is already video up of the Army (in M113s no less) interposing itself between rock throwing crowds, and the Police.
In many Mid East States, the Army is a power unto itself... (Turkey is a perfect example).

Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 03:19 PM (AdK6a)

411 So Al-Jawackoff reports that the Egyptian cabinet has resigned... is that older news?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:19 PM (AZGON)

412 Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:18 PM (Ez4Ql)

I haven't watched it but I've heard a lot about it from everyone who does. It seems to me it is one of those movies that you watch on two or three levels. Some people really think it is magnificent because it can be watched on so many levels. I'm not going to see it but I hope Portman gets the oscar.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:20 PM (p302b)

413
"Egypt is lost."

-Harry Reid

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:20 PM (ZHsNw)

414 This guy on Al Jazeera who is calling for a completely new government is completely underwhelming. Lame Islamo-fascist hack.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:21 PM (sZ+lP)

415 I think we are going to wake up in a month and find that the religious leaders are in control of the entire middle east and Israel will be the only state not controlled by them. I feel like no one is thinking ahead here.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:21 PM (p302b)

416
"I can see Egypt from my house."

-Tina Fey

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:22 PM (ZHsNw)

417 Fox reporting the Crisis Response Team assembling in the White House with Joe "Numbnuts" Biden advising.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:13 PM (ZHsNw)

Relax, remember, never let a good crisis go to waste. We're WTF here.

Posted by: Emanu, Rahm-in-Charge at January 29, 2011 03:22 PM (vC2SL)

418 Typical Tweet: OBAMA says Egypt is an important ally referring to Mubaraks role as an outpost for US military operations and dirty war.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:22 PM (0Hp4r)

419 Headline: "British, French, and German leaders call for free and fair elections in Egypt"

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:22 PM (sZ+lP)

420 Iran is winning the future.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (TMB3S)

421 I haven't watched it but I've heard a lot about it from everyone who does. It seems to me it is one of those movies that you watch on two or three levels. Some people really think it is magnificent because it can be watched on so many levels. I'm not going to see it but I hope Portman gets the oscar.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:20 PM (p302b)
Orrrr... as the Elites really think... if you don't like it its because you are not smart enough to see the many levels...
And of course, the rest of the Elites aggree... even though they really did not like it either..
Kinda like Modern Art... if you don't get it its because you are an idiot... not because you actualy want your Art to look like somthing.

Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (AdK6a)

422 the Dutch are pretty pissed at dinner jacket hanging one of their citizens.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (p302b)

423 Well, given that it's Al Jazeera, who knows the truth, but they just showed a set of bodies in a filthy morgue with gunshot wounds suggesting they were shot by gubmint forces.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (AZGON)

424 Posted by: Nephertiri, the Gould at January 29, 2011 03:23 PM (AdK6a)

AHHHHH ... a Sock has taken over /eyes start to glow...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 03:24 PM (AdK6a)

425 Fox reporting the Crisis Response Team assembling in the White House with Joe "Numbnuts" Biden advising.

Biden held the meeting because the Prez was at either Sasha or Malia's basketball game. Now, I'm all for supporting family members, but he should have chosen another day to attend.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (sZ+lP)

426 Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:18 PM (Ez4Ql)

Oh, when I deal with those kind of people, when I finally lose my patience and want to make sure they don't talk to me ever again I simply say "I have something you don't have" and of course they can resist and they say "oh really, what is that" and I say "common sense".

shuts them down right away

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (p302b)

427 Sounds like gunfire is taking place near the Ministry of the Interior, machine gun fire.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (AZGON)

428 I warned them.

Posted by: High-Speed Rail at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (PSKdh)

429 Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:21 PM (p302b)
I agree. And the other thing in the mid-east. If your country goes to shit, where do you run to?

Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 03:26 PM (6oDXl)

430 Via NRO: Upper Egypt: Calm before the Storm?

Things are quiet but tense down there.



Also, machine-gun fire coming from the Ministry of Interior.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (sZ+lP)

431 425
Fox reporting the Crisis Response Team assembling in the White House with Joe "Numbnuts" Biden advising.

Biden
held the meeting because the Prez was at either Sasha or Malia's
basketball game. Now, I'm all for supporting family members, but he
should have chosen another day to attend.


Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:25 PM (sZ+lP)
and that is the new attack on Sarah Palin, that her family is such a handful that she could not possibly handle the office of the president. Have read that idea so many times, said in so many different ways in the last week that I've decided that's a new Sarah Palin talking point.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (p302b)

432
Yea, that Jeffersonian Democracy will work in Egypt, the same way it's gonna work in Iraq.

Removes wishbone from pocket and calls bookie for odds!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:28 PM (ZHsNw)

433 Yeah, Al Jism-ra makes the gunfire official, near the Ministry of the Interior

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:28 PM (AZGON)

434 and that is the new attack on Sarah Palin, that her family is such a handful that she could not possibly handle the office of the president. Have read that idea so many times, said in so many different ways in the last week that I've decided that's a new Sarah Palin talking point.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (p302b)
New? They were talking about if she could handle being VP and a mother during 08.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:29 PM (oVQFe)

435 I agree. And the other thing in the mid-east. If your country goes to shit, where do you run to?
Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 03:26 PM (6oDXl)
/rapidly writing a check from the Palistinian Refuge fund....
Oh.... I don't know....

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 29, 2011 03:29 PM (AdK6a)

436

New? They were talking about if she could handle being VP and a mother during 08.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 03:29 PM (oVQFe)
The detractors were correct. Sarah Palin is a girl.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (ZHsNw)

437 The 70s ; Feel it now

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 02:29 PM (vdfwz)
yea, I remember those days - after I watched that video I had to watch John Travolta in "saturday night fever"_____________________
373
It's not really bashing until someone drops the P bomb... Palin!

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 02:36 PM (AZGON)
Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.



Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (bqjJT)

438 One of my friend's dads said that all these people were fine and they were in their own enclaves peacefully living with one another, not making trouble and then the world encroached upon them and divided them up, the way the world wanted and not the way they wanted and this is why the region has been as unhappy as it has been since. don't know if he is right, he is lebanese, but he might just be, that might be the key, let them organize themselves and figure things out and have "the world" get out of their way.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)

439 431
425 and
that is the new attack on Sarah Palin, that her family is such a
handful that she could not possibly handle the office of the president.
Have read that idea so many times, said in so many different ways in
the last week that I've decided that's a new Sarah Palin talking point.

This is different in that the President has not bothered to take much time to discuss the situation either with world leaders or to cancel other events so as to meditate on the matter. In other worlds, the President seems more concerned about other matters and has done nothing but lecture. Palin would certainly show more leadership on and dedication to the issue.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:31 PM (sZ+lP)

440 Also, machine-gun fire coming from the Ministry of Interior.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:27 PM (sZ+lP)
/Taking notes for SOP document in case of large Protest Marches

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at January 29, 2011 03:31 PM (AdK6a)

441 New rule #132: All news sources will eventually be about Sarah Palin.

WTF? Egypt is in open revolt and people are jumping into the feeds complaining about Sarah Palin? Are they going to explain why this is her fault now?

What The Future?

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 03:31 PM (bxiXv)

442 Wikileaks taking credit for egypt and tunisia

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:31 PM (0Hp4r)

443 Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.

We could call it the Alaskan Corollary.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:32 PM (AZGON)

444 TROY After being brought into a Rensselaer County courtroom in handcuffs, Councilman Michael LoPorto and Democratic Election Commissioner Edward McDonough pleaded not guilty Friday to a combined 116 felony counts alleging they falsified dozens of absentee votes.

Posted by: Al Roker at January 29, 2011 03:32 PM (tvs2p)

445
, let them organize themselves and figure things out and have "the world" get out of their way.


Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
Agreed!Note to Hilly Clinton: Stop Payment on Egypt's Billion Dollar Boondoggle

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:32 PM (ZHsNw)

446 "I'm not going to see it but I hope Portman gets the oscar. Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:20 PM "

Why? One of the worse things about it was watching her pretending to be a dancer. I could have done a better job running around in a tutu and flapping my arms.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (Ez4Ql)

447 Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.



Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (bqjJT)
That or a new Game! 7 2 orders of seperation from Kevin Bacon Sarah Palin!

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (AdK6a)

448 New rule #132: All news sources will eventually be about Sarah Palin.

Heh heh... sort of like a twist on Rule 34.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (AZGON)

449 I could have done a better job running around in a tutu and flapping my arms.

Rahm Emanuel, is that you?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:34 PM (AZGON)

450 443
Pretty soon we're going to have to have a Godwin rule as it relates to Palin.





We could call it the Alaskan Corollary.

Maybe a new Urban dictionary entry!

Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 03:35 PM (bqjJT)

451 Why? One of the worse things about it was watching
her pretending to be a dancer. I could have done a better job running
around in a tutu and flapping my arms.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:33 PM (Ez4Ql)
She wasn't pretending, she attended one of the best ballet schools in New York when she was a kid through her teens until she finally started her movie career. I know people who have her on video tape dancing next to their kid.
She is a very nice person.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:36 PM (p302b)

452
Kirsten Powers on Fox preening and showing her 34 A's.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 03:36 PM (ZHsNw)

453 They are tweeting Mubarak's london address. Told him yesterday to get his family to a non-muslim country.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:36 PM (0Hp4r)

454 But the idea that we caused this problem and that these areas were somehow living in perfect harmony before the West interfered is ridiculous. They were fighting and killing one another before and they have been doing the same ever since. Same goes for before they were Islamasized.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (sZ+lP)

455 Kirsten Powers on Fox preening and showing her 34 A's.

Worthless as an ironing board.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (AZGON)

456
All this Moron talk of Egyptian antiquities, looting and violence got me thinking...
How about a Saturday Matinee?


An intact, undisturbed tomb of a pharaoh was discovered during WWII. It was incredibly challenging to do the work of digging the site and piecing together who this pharaoh was. It was dated to roughly 1000 BC, the dark, chaotic "Intermediate Period" in Egypt's 3000-year history.

The royal tomb of Pharaoh Psusennes I is one of the most spectacular of all the ancient Egyptian treasures - even more remarkable than that of Tutankhamun. So why hasn't the world heard about it? What mysteries does it contain? And what does it reveal about ancient Egypt?

The tomb was discovered filled with lavish jewels and treasure almost by accident in 1939 by the French archaeologist Pierre Montet while he was in northern Egypt. The royal burial chamber came as a complete surprise - no Egyptologist had anticipated a tomb of such grandeur in this area. Unfortunately, the tomb was found on the eve of World War II in Europe and attracted little attention.

One of the most startling discoveries inside the tomb was the sarcophagus in which the body was held.. It was made of silver with exquisite detail and craftsmanship. No other silver sarcophagus has ever been found and it is now recognized by many Egyptologists as one of the most exquisite artifacts of ancient Egypt ever to be found.

The elaborate tribute within the tomb suggested it was the burial site of someone very important. Using the hieroglyphs inside the tomb, they pieced together the identity of the pharaoh and his powerful role in ancient Egypt, and why he received such grand treatment.

The investigation reveals political intrigue, a lost city and a leader who united a country in turmoil and became the Silver Pharaoh.

Enjoy!

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (1rflU)

457 curious: Taking ballet lessons as a kid is not the same as having the talent to be a professional dancer or even to pretend to be one.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:38 PM (Ez4Ql)

458
I just saw an Egyptian late model M-60.

I hear they have 550 M-1s. They could open up a real can of whoopass on the protesters.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 03:38 PM (7+pP9)

459 Hearing that in Alexandria a fire israging at a fertilizerplant directly adjacent to a huge nitric acid/ chemical combustibles factory. There is potential for a widespread toxic gas cloud forming if it ignites.

Wellthat's just terrific.


Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 29, 2011 03:39 PM (L00d6)

460 If only Mubarak had invested in high-speed rail...

it would have replaced the Orient Express that ran from 1883 to 2009,

it would provide a high-speed get-away for museum thieves.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 29, 2011 03:39 PM (H+LJc)

461 Looting children's cancer hospital near cairo. Democracy? Hmmm.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 03:39 PM (0Hp4r)

462 438 One of my friend's dads said that all these people were fine and they were in their own enclaves peacefully living with one another, not making trouble and then the world encroached upon them and divided them up, the way the world wanted and not the way they wanted and this is why the region has been as unhappy as it has been since. don't know if he is right, he is lebanese, but he might just be, that might be the key, let them organize themselves and figure things out and have "the world" get out of their way.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
The region has been at one war or another for most of recorded history.The Western Imperialist Divison followed the Ottoman Imperialist Division which followed the Mongol Imperialist Division which followed the Seljuks which followed the Abbasids which followed the Umayyads which followed the Romans which followed the Persians which followed Hattusha (The Other Hittites) which followed the Babylonians which followed the Sumerians and I think it was the alien overlords before that or something.The problem is that at least since 650 AD "the world" has been the unattainable goal for Middle Eastern empires, we can't "get out of their way" unless there's a reformation, which is unlikely.I can understand the conclusion, it's not irrational, it's just wrong.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 29, 2011 03:40 PM (bxiXv)

463 But the idea that we caused this problem and that these areas were somehow living in perfect harmony before the West interfered is ridiculous.
Yeah, just like the Native Americans were living in peace and harmony before the whites came.
Utter crap!

Posted by: HH at January 29, 2011 03:41 PM (6oDXl)

464 454 But the idea that we caused this problem and that these areas were somehow living in perfect harmony before the West interfered is ridiculous. They were fighting and killing one another before and they have been doing the same ever since. Same goes for before they were Islamasized.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:37 PM (sZ+lP)
Yeah, even the Muslims believe in the story of Cain and Abel.. which happened in the Mid East...
So.... to continue teh meme...
Cain and Abel is a Bible Story.... Sarah Palin has a Bible in her house... thus... its all Sarah's fault (see... only 2 orders of seperation!).

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 03:41 PM (AdK6a)

465 I could have done a better job running around in a tutu and flapping my arms.

Posted by: Fannie Brice at January 29, 2011 03:42 PM (H+LJc)

466 Yay, the National Museum is on fire again. Niiice.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:42 PM (AZGON)

467 457
curious: Taking ballet lessons as a kid is not the same as having the
talent to be a professional dancer or even to pretend to be one.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 03:38 PM (Ez4Ql)

She could have gone on to be a professional dancer, she was taught by the best ballet dancers in the world, from the top NY ballet companies. She chose acting instead. She's older now, a little rusty, but when she was younger she could have gone on to be a ballerina. I know this to be a fact.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:43 PM (p302b)

468 Now the NDP headquarters as well as the National Museum are on fire again. No reports on the s'mores situation.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:44 PM (AZGON)

469 I blame NASA. Their number 1 job is Muslim outreach. Obviously, they've failed.

Posted by: Frankly at January 29, 2011 03:44 PM (yC9nY)

470 Obama's "progressive" shills in the MSM are portraying this contrived revolt in Egypt (cunningly orchestrated by communist student dissidents) as the great revolution and, supposedly,as oppressed people yearning for democracy, which is bullshit. This is the greenies and other communists trying to destabilize that region of the world, so that they can advance their communist agenda on the phony pretext that they want a democracy. We saw the same deceit in Cuba 52 years ago and in Venezuela more recently. Democracy isnever on their agenda for communists. Get real.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:44 PM (sYrWB)

471 466
Yay, the National Museum is on fire again. Niiice.


The Egyptians should consider themselves fortunate that the British just didn't steal all their transferable artifacts outright when they had the chance.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:45 PM (sZ+lP)

472
America has flucked me again by not supporting my regime. I will lose my job, but I also leave Egypt with billions of American dollars and will live a life of luxury in Paris. Fluck America, and fluck Obama.

Allah Akbar!

Posted by: Hosni Mubarak, The Mideast Won at January 29, 2011 03:45 PM (ZHsNw)

473 I remember a quote from Portman:
"I even like John McCain, I disagree with his war stance which is a really big deal but I think he's a very moral person."

That's about as conservative a comment as you'll ever get from a Hollywood actress.

Posted by: The guy who would pay to be Natalie Portman's tutu at January 29, 2011 03:46 PM (UqJ8A)

474 moi, in the ballet world, you pretty much know by the time you are 17 if you are going to make it and be a working ballerina. If you get into a company, you are set.

then later on, you can teach little kids and take a lot of advil cause in your late 30's your body begins to fall apart.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:46 PM (p302b)

475 She could have gone on to be a professional dancer, she was taught by the best ballet dancers in the world, from the top NY ballet companies. She chose acting instead. She's older now, a little rusty, but when she was younger she could have gone on to be a ballerina. I know this to be a fact.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:43 PM (p302b)
She could have been a proffesional Dancer...
Sarah's Daughter was on dancing with the Stars...
Thus, it is Sarah's fault if she does not win an Oscar...

Posted by: MSM at January 29, 2011 03:47 PM (AdK6a)

476 Okay, it's the NDP building that's on-fire. No one can even get there to put out the fire.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:47 PM (sZ+lP)

477 Not the Museum of Antiquities.

Posted by: Zahi Hawass at January 29, 2011 03:47 PM (SJ6/3)

478 take a lot of advil cause in your late 30's your body begins to fall apart.

That's not what Russ told me. But then, I did a different kind of dancing.

Posted by: Kitten Natividad at January 29, 2011 03:48 PM (AZGON)

479 472 America has flucked me again by not supporting my regime. I will lose my job, but I also leave Egypt with billions of American dollars and will live a life of luxury in Paris. Fluck America, and fluck Obama. Allah Akbar!
Posted by: Hosni Mubarak, The Mideast Won at January 29, 2011 03:45 PM (ZHsNw)
See? Another person will get HIRED to be the Leader of Egypt! Another job saved or created by the Obama administration!

Posted by: MSM at January 29, 2011 03:49 PM (AdK6a)

480 Al Jazz Hands reports it's both the NDP HQ and the Museum on fire now.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:49 PM (AZGON)

481 I blame NASA. Their number 1 job is Muslim outreach. Obviously, they've failed.
Posted by: Frankly at January 29, 2011 03:44 PM
Yes, if only Obama had pushed NASA to do its job.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 03:50 PM (PSKdh)

482 Also, the Cairo National Press Club building is on fire. I can't say I mind that.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:51 PM (AZGON)

483 #456 - Cool. Kudos.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 03:51 PM (sYrWB)

484 Their tanks don't seem to work.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 03:51 PM (SJ6/3)

485 Yeah, now Al Jiz is changing the reporting to say it's the Press Club, not the Museum.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:52 PM (AZGON)

486 sickinmasss @ 456--that's pretty damned interesting. I used to teach some basic Egyptology and have never heard of that.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 03:52 PM (DLxD/)

487 480
Al Jazz Hands reports it's both the NDP HQ and the Museum on fire now.

They can't decide which building is burning. It's now the National Press Club Building.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:52 PM (sZ+lP)

488 What's a healthy, young, attractive girl to do when her Captain's away boinking planetary sluts?
Dr. McCoy? He's too avuncular and grandfatherly, plus he lingers a bit too long palpitating things that don't need palpitating in the first place. "Electronic sensors are no match for trained hands, my dear" is such bullshit.
Engineer Scott? Sure he's a good time with his stories and free flowing drinks. Two words. Whiskey dick.
First Officer Spock? Yeah, just the guy for hot monkey love, once every seven years. Besides, Nurse manhands has the hots for him.
Lt Sulu? Wrong team. He's good with helping me with my wardrobe though.
Ensign Chekov? A boy. Can't control himself. He still hasn't apologised for that disgusting incident at theAcademy's graduation dance.
Red shirts? Hell, every damn time I get grooving withone of those hunky, well built men, Kirk gets all jealous andassigns him to an away team. Sigh!Well at least those guys die happy IYKWIM.
And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseassLt. Uhurasuggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM (XBM1t)

489 Yes, Miss 80s.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:54 PM (AZGON)

490 Could co-sponsoring these bills be enough to make the Maine Sisters FINALLY lose their next elections if this were enacted?

Posted by: RushBabe at January 29, 2011 03:55 PM (urYpw)

491 Hearing that in Alexandria a fire israging at a fertilizerplant directly adjacent to a huge nitric acid/ chemical combustibles factory.
Acid plant and fertilizer plant probably go together. My husband was plant accountant at an ammoniumnitrate plant and the number of really nasty acids that go into producing thestuff is astounding

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 03:55 PM (ks4Rn)

492 Protection? "I have an old cricket bat as well." LOL.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:55 PM (sZ+lP)

493 I approve of an Internet Kill Switch for the US. You can read about it at The Blaze.

Posted by: Butt Ugly Lesbian Senator From Maine at January 29, 2011 03:56 PM (EL+OC)

494 What's a girl to do?

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand

Three words: Synthesized ice cream.

Posted by: the Mess Deck at January 29, 2011 03:56 PM (AZGON)

495 489 I'm a slow typer, what can I say?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 03:56 PM (sZ+lP)

496 "al jazz hands" - I love it, fosse fans

moi please don't be angry with me, it's just I know some things that color my opinions

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:57 PM (p302b)

497
>>I used to teach some basic Egyptology and have never heard of that...

Thank you USS Diversity..and Brian. Wifey and I have been fans of Egyptology and have visited MANY times. In fact our daughter, Neith, was named after the predynastic goddess of war and weaving, the goddess of the Red Crown of Lower Egypt and the patron goddess of Zau.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 03:58 PM (1rflU)

498 Al Jazz Hands reports looting in upscale neighborhoods.

At least the Egyptian looters were smarter than Angeleno ones. During O.J. they looted stores for... diapers.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 03:58 PM (AZGON)

499 curious' point is that the British, in their infinite wisdom (hack), reconstructed territorial boundaries not considering traditional borders and balance of indigenous powers, but executed in order to facilitate so long as possible Britain's supremacy in foreign affairs, and the possible when convenient accommodation of British allies, as well as the compromise with enemies so long as England lost no skin off Britain's nose.

Ask Poland that deplores Winston Churchill as a pirate; and ask nearly any Eastern European country how well they regard the Allies for engaging in post-WWII Cold War suffering at the expense of Central/Eastern Europeans. Study the maps redrawn by Britain following WWI and WWII -- you don't even need to go back to the 19th Century Victorian Era when the Sun Never Set in the British Empire. Ask India whether Britain had the right to carve out Pakistan from Indian territory, as if giving Indian Muslims their own Pakistan identity solved any problems. Ask the King of Jordan whether Britain had the right to arbitrarily carve out Israel because Europe was unwilling to forfeit the hordes of Nazi stolen Jewish property throughout Europe in war reparations to Europe's Jewish population.

But what's done is done. And rioting is not going to improve a damned thing but to perform self inflicted wounds of terrorism.


Posted by: Fannie Brice at January 29, 2011 03:59 PM (H+LJc)

500 What's a girl to do?
Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM (XBM1t)
Well my Dear, I know some really nice Miners...

Posted by: Harry Mudd at January 29, 2011 03:59 PM (AdK6a)

501 Whoops! I'm an Indian!

Posted by: Fanny Brice at January 29, 2011 04:00 PM (fjoLg)

502 She could have been a proffesional Dancer...
Sarah's Daughter was on dancing with the Stars...
Thus, it is Sarah's fault if she does not win an Oscar...
Very good! - 1 degree of separation in the it's Palin's fault game

Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 04:01 PM (bqjJT)

503 More machine gunning, less public outreach.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:02 PM (SJ6/3)

504
Fox reporting Egyptian Army protecting the US Embassy in Cairo.

That's so comforting?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 04:03 PM (ZHsNw)

505 I keep hearing that this is all beck's fault. Apparently, the day before the rioting he put some "rumors of war" video up on his site and that is what caused the whole mess. I can't believe they actually believe this enough to tell it to me.

Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (p302b)

506 Why does the moron on PMSNBC think there is such a great step from rioting to looting?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (SJ6/3)

507 Reports that Egyptian police are absent from streets except major thoroughfares.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (AZGON)

508 503 More machine gunning, less public outreach.
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:02 PM (SJ6/3)
Wait... machine gunning is NOT public outreach??? We need to fix that meme!
/takes more notes for the "In Case of Protests" document...

Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (AdK6a)

509 Me too sickinmass...never been to Cairo. Maybe I'll head over there soon.
Always been fascinated by the goldsmithing they did with only basic tools. Did you know people used to eat ground up mummy for various ailments?

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (DLxD/)

510
What a mess over there. A pre-curser to the US of A? You know it's coming...

Question is when.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 04:05 PM (1rflU)

511 Army controls the thoroughfares, the people the streets. Interesting road blocks they have going-on there.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:05 PM (sZ+lP)

512 Minister of Police has supposedly left the country.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:06 PM (sZ+lP)

513

Always been fascinated by the goldsmithing they
did with only basic tools.


Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 04:04 PM (DLxD/)
A gold cartouche is considered a must buy in Egypt. Also, a close encounter with an olive skinned beauty, but only if recommended by Miss Cleo of Psychic Friends Network.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (ZHsNw)

514 Hmm... one guy on the ALE feed, part of a neighborhood group guarding their street, says the minister of the police has left the country.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (AZGON)

515 >>Me too sickinmass...never been to Cairo. Maybe I'll head over there soon.

That sounds like a splendid idea.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (TMB3S)

516
>>Did you know people used to eat ground up mummy for various ailments?

Also, upthread.. some moron said crushed mummies were used for ink!

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (1rflU)

517 510 What a mess over there. A pre-curser to the US of A? You know it's coming...Question is when.
Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 04:05 PM (1rflU)
I could see small peacefull protests... but if the Middle Class erupts... it won't be rocks, it will be guns...
Which IMO means the Government would cave pretty quickly... as I don't know if the Army would fire on American Civilians (in large numbers).

Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (AdK6a)

518 Miss Cleo of Psychic Friends Network.

Isn't she Obama's new Clairvoyance Czar?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:08 PM (AZGON)

519 It's interesting that these young Egyptian men seem legitimately concerned about protecting their families and neighbors.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:08 PM (sZ+lP)

520 Only problem is I can't walk with the whiole bent wrist thing and avoid bullets at the same time.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 29, 2011 04:08 PM (DLxD/)

521 Hearing that in Alexandria a fire is raging at a fertilizer plant directly adjacent to a huge nitric acid/ chemical combustibles factory.

Acid plant and fertilizer plant probably go together. My husband was plant accountant at an ammoniumnitrate plant and the number of really nasty acids that go into producing the stuff is astounding

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 03:55 PM (ks4Rn)


Meh. What could happen?

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 04:09 PM (n0WLs)

522 How much do young Egyptians know about the history of their predecessors, and do they really care? I would think they mainly consider the Islamic period onward, but I don't really know.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:11 PM (sZ+lP)

523 Meh. Arabs and muslims have an absolutely abominable history with
artifacts of any sort. They have no respect, at all, for historical
artifacts of their own and have always been exceedingly hostile to
artifacts left from anyone else. If it hadn't been for the Westerners,
or the lack of greater looting skill on the part of the arabs, there
wouldn't be any Egyptian artifacts or any Cairo museum.

I saw the King Tut exhibit when it came to the states. It was a bait-and-switch fraud. Only about half of the stuff was from Tut, and most of it was minor pieces. The Egyptians won't good stuff (the huge gold mask, etc) out of the country.

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 04:12 PM (c1oyg)

524 Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 04:09 PM (n0WLs)
He told me about one of their training videos that made a big impression. The lesson was "never walk through anything that looks like water or steam, it's probably not". The video was of a guy's shoes melting as he walks away from what had looked like a water puddle.

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 04:13 PM (ks4Rn)

525 No matter what happens, we know one thing... Barry will bow to him.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:13 PM (AZGON)

526 394
Lemme tell you, Kirk is no Mubarak.


Posted by: Montgomery Scott at January 29, 2011 02:58 PM

But I do make a great Nazi !

Posted by: James T Kirk at January 29, 2011 04:14 PM (vdfwz)

527 Looks like the Egyptian Army is letting the Protesters do their thing... not stopping them at all.
Police are off the streets.... is the word out that the Protesters are under the protection of the Army?
ie, Army enforcing a no major violence agenda on the POLICE?
If so.... Mooby is gone...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:16 PM (AdK6a)

528 438 One of my friend's dads said that all these people were fine and they were in their own enclaves peacefully living with one another, not making trouble and then the world encroached upon them and divided them up, the way the world wanted and not the way they wanted and this is why the region has been as unhappy as it has been since. don't know if he is right, he is lebanese, but he might just be, that might be the key, let them organize themselves and figure things out and have "the world" get out of their way.
Posted by: curious at January 29, 2011 03:30 PM (p302b)
That's a nice theory and while Churchill did sort of just draw up lines for the countries in the region or whatever it screams bullshit to me. Its not like it was a practice in inner city bussing and they split up their little enclaves. And the invasion of Kuwait, the Turks desires on Armenian lands, the Iran/Iraq war also put the lie to it. All those little "peaceful" enclaves want to be in control of everyone else. This area hasa long history of being in control by other groups. From the Persians, to Alexander, the Romans, and the Ottoman Empire. Letting them organize how they want would result in a very bloody war and likely a genocide of multiple groups.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 04:16 PM (oVQFe)

529 They are not demonstrators, they are rioters, looters, and arsonists.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (SJ6/3)

530
But I do make a great Nazi !

Posted by: James T Kirk

I'm starting to wonder if Kirk and Spock made a visit to Egypt a couple of days ago.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (AZGON)

531 Which IMO means the Government would cave pretty quickly... as I don't know if the Army would fire on American Civilians (in large numbers).
Posted by: Janet Napoliano at January 29, 2011 04:07 PM (AdK6a)
Hence the reason in the media for the gross mischaracterizations of conservative dissent and their efforts to link Laughner to RW media. Even if that campaign weren't such a dismal failure, I still can't see our troops firing on civilians.
Besides, if our side ever did decide to take up arms in protest, it wouldn't be some mindless rabble busting up shop windows, throwing rocksand turning cars over. It would involve a ton of people who are not only armed, but many who are former/retired military with contacts within the very units ordered to fire upon them.
There'd be so many resignations in the officer ranks and disobeyed orders as to effectively shut down the military.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (A/oSU)

532 Hey Tunisia,
Imma gonna let you finish, but Mubarak is the biggest tyrant of all time!

Posted by: Egypt at January 29, 2011 04:19 PM (DHNp4)

533 They are not demonstrators, they are rioters, looters, and arsonists.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (SJ6/3)
Ah....good times.. good times

Posted by: Rodney King Rioter at January 29, 2011 04:19 PM (c1oyg)

534 curious: No, I'm not mad at you. I have known more than a few professional ballet dancers, I have a family member who was a muckity muck in the ABT, and I have personally seen quite a bit of professional ballet. Obviously, someone was doing the leg work for Portman. However, her arm work was her own and it was cringe worthy - an opinion shared by my dancer friends.

Posted by: moi at January 29, 2011 04:20 PM (Ez4Ql)

535 And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseassLt. Uhurasuggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM

Everything on me grows to huge sizes, and I can cup your supple breasts from light years away

Posted by: Apollo at January 29, 2011 04:20 PM (vdfwz)

536 Al Jazeera crew mugged in Suez. Wish I could say I felt sorry for them.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:21 PM (sZ+lP)

537 Ask India whether Britain had the right to carve out Pakistan from
Indian territory, as if giving Indian Muslims their own Pakistan
identity solved any problems. Ask the King of Jordan whether Britain
had the right to arbitrarily carve out Israel because Europe was
unwilling to forfeit the hordes of Nazi stolen Jewish property
throughout Europe in war reparations to Europe's Jewish population.

I agree the border-drawing was ad hoc. Yes, they wanted Arab states they could manipulate.

My problem is I still don't think you can merely blame Britain for all of this. By the time of the partition, the Muslims in Pakistan were set to go their own way whether Britain agreed to it or not. The Jewish inhabitants of Israel were also seeking a state before Britain even gained control of the region and the Balfour Declaration was over a decade before Nazis even came into power. If that made a king pissed, tough shit.

Yeah, it pissed off others in the region, though under the circumstances, I'd have more sympathy for them if their complaints had focused getting a state of their own vs. having to live with people of another religion and the Jews acquiring their own state as well (the fact that a king in Jordan controlled the West Bank for a couple decades didn't seem to annoy them remotely as much as Israel existence and capturing of that area). As far as trying to foist Jewish refugees on Israel, Britain was actually actively working to keep many of them out.

Posted by: AD at January 29, 2011 04:22 PM (9r1ux)

538 Per capital income $1,800 dollars.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:22 PM (SJ6/3)

539 Been to the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, and to the pyramids. Someone said it earlier, and I can agree - if it weren't for the British, French and to a lesser extent German and American archaeologists, Egypt would have no artifacts. Shit, half of Giza was built from stuff hacked off the pyramids. The company I work for has an office in Cairo...hope they packed up the tapes and evacuated.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 29, 2011 04:22 PM (C8H3M)

540 Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 04:09 PM (n0WLs)

He told me about one of their training videos that made a big impression. The lesson was "never walk through anything that looks like water or steam, it's probably not". The video was of a guy's shoes melting as he walks away from what had looked like a water puddle.

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 04:13 PM (ks4Rn)

Dude, I'm a chemist. We drink fuming nitric acid for breakfast.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 04:22 PM (n0WLs)

541 And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseassLt. Uhurasuggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM

I don't imagine that a noncom valet/secretary makes much on that flying institution, would you be interested in extra earnings my dear?

Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Mudd at January 29, 2011 04:23 PM (vdfwz)

542
Shite.

Wife bugging me to take her to Cairo Costco. I don't want to go. Rather hang with youze cockholsters. Should I bring back Sammiches for the Moron Horde Egypt Viewing Party?








yeah riiight. ..Pop your own corn!

Posted by: sickinmass at January 29, 2011 04:23 PM (1rflU)

543 Muslim Egypt comes unglued
NASA tasked with Muslim outreach
Rep Gifford's husband is a NASA astronaut
Palin targeted Gifford during the campaign
Hence, Palin is responsible for the entire middle east

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 04:24 PM (alr7n)

544 536
Al Jazeera crew mugged in Suez. Wish I could say I felt sorry for them.


Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:21 PM

They beat up a BBC reporter too. Kind of the same feeling I get watching the Eagles play the Cowboys

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2011 04:24 PM (vdfwz)

545 Dude, I'm a chemist. We drink fuming nitric acid for breakfast.

That explains a lot

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (QgI7g)

546 There'd be so many resignations in the officer ranks and disobeyed orders as to effectively shut down the military.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 04:18 PM (A/oSU)
Yeah, even more Legaly weird... My Lai massacre trials and verdict came AFTER Kent State.
In Kent State, the Guardsmen were given a pass by a civilian judge because they were acting in "self defense".
My Lai... it was decided that a Soldier has a duty NOT to obey illegal orders.
If the Kent State Guardsmen had gone to Trial in Military Court, AFTER My Lai? They'd still be in Jail.
And everyone in the military who has a brain, knows it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (AdK6a)

547 Hmm... Al Jazz Hands says the military is friendly with the protestors. If true, that's pretty big. If the military isn't behind Mubarak, he's got a huge problem.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (AZGON)

548 Stop the presses this just in.OBAMA SUCKS RINO NUTS!! That is all carry on.....

Posted by: Krazy Kat at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (oNphh)

549 They never seem to be rolling when the barbarians attack the reporters.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:26 PM (SJ6/3)

550 Speaking of Egypt, I went to the Luxor. I bitched and yelled and nobody showed up with a drink and the blackjack tables were unattended.

Come on, fuckin' deal!

Posted by: Joe Rain Man Biden at January 29, 2011 04:27 PM (vdfwz)

551 Okay . . . so looters trashed the museum in Cairo.

Obama claims his administration has been secretly working to encourage the protestors.

Doesn't that mean it's his fault the museum was trashed?

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 29, 2011 04:28 PM (60gUO)

552 Anyone know who has the ONT tonight???? I got a hot tip.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 29, 2011 04:28 PM (GjNcS)

553 547 Hmm... Al Jazz Hands says the military is friendly with the protestors. If true, that's pretty big. If the military isn't behind Mubarak, he's got a huge problem.
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:25 PM (AZGON)
Yep, theres video out there of Army APCs getting between the crowd, and armed Policemen... and then soldiers shooing the crowd back so the Police would have no targets to shoot at.
Also video in a square, of a Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb up on them to get pictures taken...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AdK6a)

554 I don't know bebe. If Genghis isn't doing it, prolly CDRM.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (PSKdh)

555 Okay . . . so looters trashed the museum in Cairo.

Museums get funds from government grants.
Government grants for arts is under attack from teabaggers.
Teabaggers support Sarah Palin.

Therefore the Cairo Museum looting is Sarah Palin's fault.




Man, this blame game is easy. I did it in three degrees.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)

556
Obama rhetoric from the Cairo speech:

"On science and technology, we will launch a new fund to support technological
development in Muslim-majority countries, and to help transfer ideas to the
marketplace so they can create jobs."

So Gibby, just how many jobs did Obama create in Muslim countries?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 04:31 PM (ZHsNw)

557 547
Hmm... Al Jazz Hands says the military is friendly with the protestors.
If true, that's pretty big. If the military isn't behind Mubarak, he's
got a huge problem.


It's been said on Twitter a # of times and that video of the 3 tanks seemingly protecting the protesters from the police has been making the rounds as well. However, it does sound that whatever good will they seemingly had is now fizzling due to the fact that they are largely absent.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:31 PM (sZ+lP)

558 From what I can tell, the military is sticking to major thoroughfares and gubmint buildings, no? They can't be everywhere. So are they fading or just concentrated in certain places?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (AZGON)

559 rd, you have his email?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (GjNcS)

560 I'm looking through all those rioting pictures for Harrison Ford shooting a sinister scimitar-wielding black-garbed Arab

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (c1oyg)

561 Man, this blame game is easy. I did it in three degrees.
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)

Bah....
Sarah Palin once watched the movie "The Mummy" (with Brenden Fraier)
One scene of that Movie shows the Museum getting trashed (at least the Library).
Thus, its all Sarah's fault because she saw that movie, from home (on DVD)

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:34 PM (AdK6a)

562 558
From what I can tell, the military is sticking to major thoroughfares
and gubmint buildings, no? They can't be everywhere. So are they
fading or just concentrated in certain places?

From what a reporter said earlier, it seemed the heaviest military presence was in Suez. Otherwise, people seem to be wondering where the military is.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:36 PM (sZ+lP)

563 Man, this blame game is easy. I did it in three degrees.
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)
Watch it...my lawyers are on speed-dial

Posted by: Kevin Bacon at January 29, 2011 04:36 PM (c1oyg)

564 558 From what I can tell, the military is sticking to major thoroughfares and gubmint buildings, no? They can't be everywhere. So are they fading or just concentrated in certain places?
Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:33 PM (AZGON)
Have not seen anything but APCs and Armor either... no video of Infantry units that I've found...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:36 PM (AdK6a)

565 That Muslim Brotherhood spokesman must have been so ticked that a female reporter dared to ask him such tough questions.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:38 PM (sZ+lP)

566 Riot Emergency Kit

In Case of Jews, Break Glass

Posted by: Muslim Brothahood at January 29, 2011 04:38 PM (vdfwz)

567 Don't those yo-yo's have to pray to Mecca sometime tonight? Heretics.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:40 PM (sYrWB)

568 bebe, it's xgenghisx at gmail. He's posted it before after ONTs, so I'm not worried about putting it here. CDRM, OTOH, I better not. Don't have permission.
It might be one of several others, btw. You might ask genghis.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 04:40 PM (PSKdh)

569 That Muslim Brotherhood spokesman must have been so ticked that a female reporter dared to ask him such tough questions. appear in public without a male relative, sans burka, and open her mouth


Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:38 PM (sZ+lP)
FIFY

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 04:40 PM (c1oyg)

570 Also video in a square, of a
Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb
up on them to get pictures taken...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:30 PM

Romeo, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 04:41 PM (vdfwz)

571 Obama is secretly supporting the looters.

Posted by: Wikileaks at January 29, 2011 04:42 PM (FcR7P)

572 571 Obama is secretly supporting the looters.

Posted by: Wikileaks at January 29, 2011 04:42 PM (FcR7P)

More crony capitalism?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 04:43 PM (alr7n)

573 570
Also video in a square, of a Platton + of tanks... just sitting threre, allowing the crowd to climb up on them to get pictures taken...Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:30 PMRomeo, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 04:41 PM (vdfwz)
Und do you zink there may be a hidden meaning zere? some.... zlip perhaps

Posted by: Siggy Freud at January 29, 2011 04:44 PM (AdK6a)

574 Speaking of hi-speed rail,

Command fuckstick's pat down comment during the sotu hasn't gone unnoticed.

Posted by: sTevo at January 29, 2011 04:44 PM (VMcEw)

575 Dimwit Jim McDermott being interviewed by AJ.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:44 PM (sZ+lP)

576 Dimwit Jim McDermott being interviewed by AJ.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:44 PM (sZ+lP)
They had him on yesterday too.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 04:45 PM (VuLos)

577

I won.

Posted by: The Future at January 29, 2011 04:47 PM (5I0Yr)

578 Dimwit Jim McDermott being interviewed by AJ.

Up next on Al Jazz Hands: An interview with a brick, a bowling pin, and a sack of hammers.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 29, 2011 04:48 PM (AZGON)

579 Now the big question...
With the Army sitting there, but not really doing anything as the sitting Government is taken down...
French Revolution? Is there soon to be a "whiff of grapeshot" moment if the crowd goes too far? Is there an Egyptian General with the idea of becoming the Government by restoring order?
Everything old, is now again.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 04:48 PM (AdK6a)

580 Another police station in Cairo got torched.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:50 PM (sZ+lP)

581 575
Dimwit Jim McDermott being interviewed by AJ.

God bless Seattle returning him to the Congress with 83% of the vote in 2010.

Wa State is so screwed. The rest of the state isn't horrible, but we can't overcome 83% of the Seattle vote.


Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 04:51 PM (bqjJT)

582 Do they have fire stations in Egypt?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:51 PM (SJ6/3)

583 And I'm definitely into men, so no wiseassLt. Uhurasuggestions from the peanut gallery.
What's a girl to do?

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 03:53 PM

Try my new fragrance dear, because every woman wants to smell like she passed out and got splattered by an army of drunken Starfleet cadets

Posted by: Lady Gaga at January 29, 2011 04:51 PM (vdfwz)

584 Command fuckstick's pat down comment during the sotu hasn't gone unnoticed.
If Obama wanted put an end to that shit, he could get done by dinner tonight.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 04:52 PM (PSKdh)

585 Romeo, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: Gen George S Platton at January 29, 2011 04:41 PM (vdfwz)
My favorite Patton picture - Patton pissing in the Rhine

http://tinyurl.com/4g36d9t

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 29, 2011 04:53 PM (c1oyg)

586 So the Army is mainly protecting national treasures.

This woman is also a moron. She's upset she didn't have her holiday? You should be glad you didn't get shot.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 04:53 PM (sZ+lP)

587
Don't like the map of the Middle East?

Blame it on Peter O'Toole. (BTW -- the sick fuck actually enjoyed having his prostate massaged.)

And how is this gonna mess with my waffles? I always eat 'em with plenty of Cairo syrup.


Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 04:54 PM (7+pP9)

588 Mubarak is done, just a matter of time.

If Captain Hope and Change had a brain in his head he would be siding with the protestors who are demanding democracy and trying to increase their admiration of America. Instead, he sits with his thumb up his ass and allows the Islamists to increase their influence.

We are so screwed.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 04:55 PM (TMB3S)

589 Muslim Brotherhood tells Al Jazeera group not behind #Egypt protests but is participating in them, wants new government

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 29, 2011 04:55 PM (9hSKh)

590 Egypt's parliament meets in special session tomorrow. It would be niceif ditzy dimwits from Fox and CNN were there to report what happens, instead of winging it, like those incompetentjackasses have been doing for the past three days ...., covering Obama's ass and helping that useless putz to save face, instead of reporting the facts..

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:58 PM (sYrWB)

591 Needs more carnage.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 04:59 PM (SJ6/3)

592 If Captain Hope and Change had a brain in his head he would be siding
with the protestors who are demanding democracy and trying to increase
their admiration of America. Instead, he sits with his thumb up his ass
and allows the Islamists to increase their influence.

actually, in this particular instance, given the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, it's probably a wise thing to refrain from endorsing the protesters en masse - we want a democratic and free Egypt, not a jihadist theocracy run by Muslim Brotherhood mullahs

Posted by: chemjeff at January 29, 2011 04:59 PM (pqsMB)

593 Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 04:58 PM (sYrWB)
There have been reports of the Police confiscating Western News Reporters equipment...
Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:03 PM (AdK6a)

594 The Baghdad museum was not looted of its artifacts by mobs during the US invasion. It was looted by Saddam's cronies over years and sold on the black market to enrich themselves. By the time of the invasion, there was little left to loot. The crooked museum director who was coerced and rewarded into going along with the scheme blamed it on America and the liberal media lapped it up like free whiskey.
Google "The Thieves of Baghdad" by Lauren Sandlerin the November 2004 issue of The Atlantic, which disputes the anti-American narrative of the liberal media.

Posted by: Tantor at January 29, 2011 05:04 PM (SfZFw)

595 Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:03 PM

Yes, not like we have it here, as long as you don't say anything racist that incites violence.

Posted by: The MFM at January 29, 2011 05:05 PM (vdfwz)

596 587
Don't like the map of the Middle East?Blame it on Peter O'Toole. (BTW -- the sick fuck actually enjoyed having his prostate massaged.)...


Churchill actually should receive a great deal of blame for his involvement in redrawing the boundaries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. He was also (sadly) the one responsible for asking for T.E. Lawrence's assistance, though Lawrence didn't solely determine the boundaries by his lonesome. The French and Russians also gave their input through Sykes-Picot.

Also chuckled a bit about the reference to the film (though I know you're referring to Lawrence) since the it's actually somewhat more anti than pro-Lawrence. A man who really didn't know who he was trying to establish the identities of entire nations. By the end of the film, he's only a shadow.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:06 PM (sZ+lP)

597 High-speed rail has told me to wait and see who's going to come out on top and then, very quickly, make a speech that makes it sound like I knew that was going to happen all along. High-speed rail calls it "keeping your options open."

Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2011 05:06 PM (PSKdh)

598 Remember, its not like they have freedom of the Press over there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:03 PM

You say that like it's a BAD thing

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at January 29, 2011 05:06 PM (vdfwz)

599 Meanwhile, I'm to waffle and say things that make it sound like I'm saying things when I'm really not saying anything.

Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2011 05:06 PM (PSKdh)

600 Actually, Romeo, to alarge extent, they do have a free press in Egypt, and besides, long before they had camcorders, they had pencils and notepads.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:07 PM (sYrWB)

601 Few firefighters in Alexandria. Bloody brilliant setting buildings on fire without a means to stop it when it reaches your home. Not that the home was worth much anyway...

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:07 PM (sZ+lP)

602 Great to see the Egyptian people put a stop to the museum looting. But not entirely surprising; the Egyptians take a great deal of pride in their history.

Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:08 PM (s/vI4)

603 Here's my interaction with some Arab/Muslim man today. I walk into a gas station store to buy some sunflowers seeds. The bags are clearly marked 2/$1 or .59 each. I get 6 bags and put them on the counter. The guy rings them up and says, "That's $3.54". I ask him how they could total 3.54, they are 2 for 1 dollar. He picks up one of the bags points to the price and says, "Or .59 cents each!" I said, "No, I'm buying 6 so that's 2 for 1 dollar, meaning $3.00 plus tax. It's only .59 cents if I'm buying one." Irritated, he says to me, "Calm down....I have to go get the manager."

Some other customer in the store looks at me and just shakes his head. The manager comes out (of the same persuasion) and tells the idiot, "Clear that out...it's $3.00 plus tax...$3.24." (I resisted the urge to point out not only was he wrong on the price but that when he rang it up at the .59 cent price, he forgot to charge me tax.)

This guy was so mad that a woman dared question him....and he was wrong. I was a little afraid to turn my back to him to leave the store.


Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:10 PM (VuLos)

604 actually, in this particular instance, given the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, it's probably a wise thing to refrain from endorsing the protesters en masse - we want a democratic and free Egypt, not a jihadist theocracy run by Muslim Brotherhood mullahs
Posted by: chemjeff at January 29, 2011 04:59 PM (pqsMB)
I think on Rush yesterday this was pointed out. That the Muslim Brotherhood did not start these protests but they have definitely latched on and are likely licking their chops at coming out as the ones on top and in control. And that's essentially the same method that got the theocracy in Iran. The mullahs didn't start the protests, but they latched on and took charge. So its a difficult situation. Support the thug that sort of likes us (mostly because of the "aid" we send them), or support the protestors and risk another Islamic theocracy.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:12 PM (oVQFe)

605 602
Great to see the Egyptian people put a stop to the museum looting. But
not entirely surprising; the Egyptians take a great deal of pride in
their history.

A majority of them were likely more interesting in protecting the antiquities so they could sell them on the black market. As for feeling pride, those are objects of pre-Islamic history and of a people quite different from themselves. Many could likely could care less.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:12 PM (sZ+lP)

606 >>actually, in this particular instance, given the presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, it's probably a wise thing to refrain from endorsing the protesters en masse - we want a democratic and free Egypt, not a jihadist theocracy run by Muslim Brotherhood mullahs

A more open Egypt is inevitable. Strong man rule is done. Look at what happened in Tunisia and the new government is already in Davos pleading for investment and pledging an open, democratic state. There is an alternative to Islamic theocracy.

The MB is already positioning itself for a much more prominent role in a new Egypt. If we don't exert our influence with a solid alternative then they will get it. El Baradei is an Iranian stooge and a favorite of the MB which also has been getting support from Iran for years.

This is what is going on all over the middle east. Lebanon is now Iran owned, Syria pretty much same same. If we don't get our shit together Egypt and other countries like Jordan and Yemen are going down the same path.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 05:12 PM (TMB3S)

607 Thank you for calling Egypt, Home of the Mighty Pyramids. Your call is important to us. If you are calling for the Muslim Brotherhood, please press 1 now. If you are calling for Al Qaeda, please press 2 now. For all other inquiries press 0. Please leave your message at the "Ulululululululu"

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at January 29, 2011 05:13 PM (S2GiP)

608 Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:10 PM (VuLos)

in fairness, you don't really know if his assholish behavior was because of some cultural condescension towards women, or if he's just an asshole - there's plenty of idiot redneck teenager cashiers who would do the same thing

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:13 PM (pqsMB)

609 602 Great to see the Egyptian people put a stop to the museum looting. But not entirely surprising; the Egyptians take a great deal of pride in their history.
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:08 PM (s/vI4)
I think you mean the history they stole.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:15 PM (oVQFe)

610 Jerusalem:

"...Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered his government to remain
silent about the situation in Egypt. But in a clear reflection of
Israel's concerns, Sun D'Or, a subsidiary of Israel's national airline,
El Al, whisked dozens of Israelis, including diplomats' families, out of
Egypt on an emergency flight. The government also urged Israelis to
avoid travel to Egypt."

http://tinyurl.com/4dqwlsk

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:17 PM (sZ+lP)

611 in fairness, you don't really know if his assholish
behavior was because of some cultural condescension towards women, or if
he's just an asshole - there's plenty of idiot redneck teenager
cashiers who would do the same thing


Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:13 PM (pqsMB)


You're right, I can see some idiot teenage doing the
same thing but you didn't see the way this guy looked at me. He hated that I was questioning him.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:18 PM (VuLos)

612 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:17 PM (sZ+lP)
Now if only the Obama Admin had been this smart... because ANYTHING we say about the situation now in Egypt, will be used against us.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:20 PM (AdK6a)

613 NRO: Hamas Is the Muslim Brotherhood
By Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:20 PM (sZ+lP)

614 9
Kirsten Powers is the liberal version of S E Cupp, but lacking the hotness, tight sweaters, magnificent ass, and librarian glasses.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 29, 2011 11:29 AM (ZHsNw)


Sort of an A A Cupp, eh?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:22 PM (tJjm/)

615 You're right, I can see some idiot teenage doing the same thing but you didn't see the way this guy looked at me. He hated that I was questioning him.
Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:18 PM (VuLos)

HUh... Huh.... shudup and put yer Veil back on Woman, and bring me a Beer...

Posted by: Bubba Jay Mohamed, Confused Reneck Moslem at January 29, 2011 05:22 PM (AdK6a)

616 Pictures from the demonstrations here in the US feature yellow ANSWER banners, although a lot of the press coverage seems to be going out of the way to hide them. Fox had a bunch of coverage from two demos but only showed the corners of banners and placards while concentrating on speakers with bull horns. Unfortunately the audio feed was not what the demonstrators were saying but the blathering pundit in the studio.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 05:23 PM (mV+es)

617

They just had an MB apologist on Fox News. They gave him plenty of time to spew his lies that MB renounced Al-Qaeda and is now primarily an opposition party providing basic humanitarian needs.

Earlier this morning they let asshole Eliot Abrams (Clinton State Dept. asshole) pontificate that the revolution was all about providing a "more moderate" government.

You might as well watch CNN.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 05:25 PM (7+pP9)

618 Blame it on Peter O'Toole. (BTW -- the sick fuck actually enjoyed having his prostate massaged.)Nah, I'd much rather give attention to his daughter, Plenty O'Toole. pic

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 05:25 PM (XBM1t)

619 609
602
Great to see the Egyptian people put a stop to the museum looting. But
not entirely surprising; the Egyptians take a great deal of pride in
their history.
Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:08 PM (s/vI4)

I think you mean the history they stole.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:15 PM (oVQFe)


Hello, I'm from NASA, and I'm here to help.

Posted by: zombie Reagan at January 29, 2011 05:27 PM (/izg2)

620 Sadly, Al Jazeera has the best coverage at this point. They are unabashedly in-favor of the protesters, but they will still ask tough questions in an effort to appear more fair than they really are. Besides, you can just turn-off the sound, see the images and decide for yourself.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:27 PM (sZ+lP)

621 "We are so screwed"

The new "Yes We Can."

Posted by: shibumi at January 29, 2011 05:27 PM (OKZrE)

622 If McDermott supports the protesters, I have to assume they are not what we want.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:31 PM (Fo83G)

623 O/T: okay I hate huge mega corporate banks. I just called the bank (Wells Fargo) with which I closed my accounts last year, because I was wondering where my 1099-INT form was. The idiot in the cubicle not only couldn't tell me how much interest I earned last year, but he couldn't even verify for me if the form was even sent out! Let alone to the correct address.

I hate them all.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:31 PM (pqsMB)

624 Gateway Pundit has a story about Obama cutting funding for democracy in Egypt. Via FOX Nation:



http://tinyurl.com/4htc5pk





Also, reportedly 19 businessmen leave Cairo for Dubai.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:33 PM (sZ+lP)

625 Find a good credit union.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:33 PM (SJ6/3)

626 623 O/T: okay I hate huge mega corporate banks. I just called the bank (Wells Fargo) with which I closed my accounts last year, because I was wondering where my 1099-INT form was. The idiot in the cubicle not only couldn't tell me how much interest I earned last year, but he couldn't even verify for me if the form was even sent out! Let alone to the correct address.I hate them all.
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:31 PM (pqsMB)
Well.... yuh see if'n this was a Muslim Bank... there would be no interest, wouldn't have ta worry bout it...
That or just spend it on moonshine...

Posted by: Bubba Jay Mohamed, Confused Redneck Moslem at January 29, 2011 05:34 PM (AdK6a)

627 FlaviusJulius, well now I bank with a local bank, yeah. I am done with Wells Fargo and Citibank and Bank of America and Chase and the lot of them. They are all rent-seeking crony capitalist assholes as far as I'm concerned, and they don't even give a damn about their own customers anymore.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:35 PM (pqsMB)

628 I hope someone at State or DoD is giving thought to sending in the Marines, if needbe, to protect that museum. At stake is the heritage of Mankind. Let's not allow it to go the way of the giant carved Buddhas in Afghanistan.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:36 PM (tJjm/)

629 gotta disagree CoolCzech - a marine's life is not worth it to save King Tut.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:36 PM (pqsMB)

630 Holy Shit, still this thread? Is Ace in Egypt?

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:37 PM (0Hp4r)

631 622
If McDermott supports the protesters, I have to assume they are not what we want.

I love how leftists always dismiss the ideas about democracy and freedom until they refer to communist and/or religious extremist regimes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:38 PM (sZ+lP)

632 Better to lose 80 million Egyptians then 1 mummy.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:38 PM (SJ6/3)

633 If McDermott supports the protesters, I have to assume they are not what we want.

This. Come on, look at who is supporting the protesters and then try and argue that we should be on their side. Plus, a lot of the protesters are young adults. Maybe they make them smarter in the Middle East or something, but here I really wouldnt want to be on the side of most of our young adults in a mass protest against the government. I mean look what the hell all their damn activism here ushered into office for us.

(apologies to the really cool young adults here at Ace who I definitely would follow into battle, but you guys know in a lot of cases you are absolutely the exception not the norm for 20 somethings these days.)

Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (RZ8pf)

634 Supposedly new development: The White House to reconsider Egyptian policy.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sZ+lP)

635 Hey JEA where are the links to your assertion that the right is issued talking points by corporations? Still waiting......

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (0Hp4r)

636 My understanding from what I've heard and read is that the Muslim Brotherhood isn't popular in Egypt - they've killed too many people (like al-Qaeda in Iraq did), and they don't have popular support.

Posted by: JEA at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (s/vI4)

637 The history thatthe Egyptians stole? Maybe I missed something there, but I'm scratching my head about that one. Please clarify.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)

638 628 I hope someone at State or DoD is giving thought to sending in the Marines, if needbe, to protect that museum. At stake is the heritage of Mankind. Let's not allow it to go the way of the giant carved Buddhas in Afghanistan.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:36 PM (tJjm/)
Hmmm... lets see.... would I want my son to go fight, to save the remains of a 3000 year old dead foreign guy...
and oh.... spark another Jihad against America while doing it as we would be invading ANOTHER sovereign nation...
Uh..... no....

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:41 PM (AdK6a)

639 In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization? Okay so they enslaved the Jews, leading to Moses and the whole promised land thing. That was kinda significant. And Miss Cleo fucked some Romans which had some role in their whole civil war. What else? They had some crazy pharoas with some crazy ideas about the afterlife, but that seems to me more a contribution to the Egyptians' own history, and not one for the West per se.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:41 PM (pqsMB)

640 Are all the bloggers and cob-loggers at AoSHQ rioting in Egypt today and therefore unable to post?

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 05:42 PM (Ulu3i)

641 McDermott is supporting the protestors? Holy shit, so the protestors really are Muslim Brotherhood assholes

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:42 PM (pqsMB)

642 My favorite Chase story:

I had 4 credit cards with them by accident. 1 was a Washington Mutual Account that was changed to Chase. One was a business account. One was one I got by accident from Coldwater Creek when I applied for it and thought that it was a store card. And one was the account I originally had with my local bank which was bought out by Chase.

So, Chase sends me a note that I have too much credit open and they are going to close the former Washington Mutual account. Fine with me, so I paid it off and closed it.

Then I applied for a British Air account to get free miles and got a card with 5 times the credit limit that was on the card they cancelled!

They have no idea what they are doing. I wouldn't put any money into their bank. They would probably lose it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:42 PM (Fo83G)

643 >>My understanding from what I've heard and read is that the Muslim Brotherhood isn't popular in Egypt - they've killed too many people (like al-Qaeda in Iraq did), and they don't have popular support.

Read more. You couldn't be more wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 05:42 PM (TMB3S)

644 634 Supposedly new development: The White House to reconsider Egyptian policy.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sZ+lP)
Ewwww Goody! Another Fact Finding Commision to study what we already have people studying?
Its amazing how we have all these commisions and sudies... when there are poeple TASKED to be experts in those subjects already...
And 6 months from now? A reccomendation that Obama will not completly aggree with...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:43 PM (AdK6a)

645 Cleo was a Ptolemey. Greek.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (SJ6/3)

646 In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization?
The way they walk...ooooooaaaaaaoooooo

Posted by: robtr at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (hVDig)

647 Seems to me, Egypt's role in Western civilization is more about what Europeans did to them, rather than what Egyptians contributed to Europe.

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (pqsMB)

648 @638: it's not just the mummies. It's the history of Man - all of us, not just Egyptians. Surely soldiers have fought for lesser things than that.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (tJjm/)

649 Contributions to the west? I guess paper comes to mind but if so why werepeople still writing on lambskin in the middle ages?

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:45 PM (0Hp4r)

650 Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)
My understanding is that the current Egyptians are not genetically similar to those in Egypt at the time of the Pharohs. I assume that is what is being refered to.

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 05:45 PM (kwKNJ)

651 it's not just the mummies. It's the history of Man - all of us, not just Egyptians. Surely soldiers have fought for lesser things than that.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (tJjm/)
uhmm, it's on the interwebs

Posted by: robtr at January 29, 2011 05:46 PM (hVDig)

652 649 Paper was expensive. Until people started wearing underdrawers, which after they wore out, were converted to paper, the cost of paper was prohibitive.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:48 PM (SJ6/3)

653 639
In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to
Western civilization? [...]

Well, they helped early Western civilization with: an alphabet; a calender; systems of reading, writing, and arithmetic; farming systems; medicine (particularly specialists); architecture; funeral practices; altering the wheel; and government. Some of these they borrowed from other civilizations, and others were borrowed and adapted by other peoples.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:48 PM (sZ+lP)

654 CoolCzech that's very noble, but seriously - I'm not going to tell the mom of a dead marine that he died defending King Tut from some asshole protesters

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:49 PM (pqsMB)

655 648 @638: it's not just the mummies. It's the history of Man - all of us, not just Egyptians. Surely soldiers have fought for lesser things than that.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:44 PM (tJjm/)
Have they? Yes.... should they? May want to ask the ones on the front lines... or their parents.
Sooo.... will the "history of man" cease to exist if we don't send in troops, to invade another MOSLEM country?
Or will there be a few museum artifacts destroyed... and the history of Man, which is NOT just in Egypt, continue.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:50 PM (AdK6a)

656 650
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)
My understanding is that the current Egyptians are not genetically similar to those in Egypt at the time of the Pharohs. I assume that is what is being refered to.
Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 05:45 PM (kwKNJ)
The current "Egyptians" are primarily Arab Muslims who conquered Egypt and took it over.The actual Egyptian descendants wereChristian converts. In other words the ones who are the actual descendants to thepeople of the Pharoahs are the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:50 PM (oVQFe)

657 #645 - There's afascinating book titled, Not Out Of Africa, that addresses that issue and related issues in remarkable detail.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:50 PM (sYrWB)

658 Developments I have picked up on Twitter today:

1. There is a National Guard company stationed on the border of Egypt and Gaza.
1.a Guard company has no communications with US.
2. Egyptian army has left the same border area.
3. Hamas people are streaming across the border into Egypt.

The above 3 things together are NOT GOOD.
In addition:

4. Code Pink and Ayers were in Cairo last year doing something (probably meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood).
5. PJ Crowley of the State Department has been saying that the switcheroo in Egyptian government is not good enough and Mubarik must do more.
6. In 2009 Obama cut the democracy project funding to Egypt in half.
7. A couple of weeks ago Obama removed a Muslim Brotherhood guy from the terror watch list with great fanfare.

If you ask me, someone ought to be doing investigations on whether Obama himself is trying to destabilize Egypt. If you overthrow Mubarak and the Muslim Brotherhood gains control, we lose access to the Suez Canal. Oil prices go through the roof.

Who would benefit from this? George Soros and others who bet on the dollar collapsing.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:51 PM (Fo83G)

659 Here's a partial list about some of their accomplishments and developments. It's not as detailed as it ought to be, but it's a good start.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 05:52 PM (sZ+lP)

660 Holy crap! Is this thread still the top thread?


No joy on the dog beds at Cabela's... not enough selection. So I guess we'll hit the internet. We did get her a flying squirrel to replace the one she lost and a nice lunch for us at Texas Roadhouse.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 05:52 PM (pW2o8)

661 650
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 05:39 PM (sYrWB)

My understanding is that the current Egyptians are not genetically similar to those in Egypt at the time of the Pharohs. I assume that is what is being refered to.

Posted by: Polliwog at January 29, 2011 05:45 PM (kwKNJ)

The Coptic Christians date back to ancient times. The rest of the old population was Arabized culturally and linguistically, and I'm sure there was a considerable infusion of Arab blood, as well.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:53 PM (tJjm/)

662 Lambskin was expensive too and probably more so than linen. The linen that was used later for paper did come from the improved new looms which made the linen plentiful. So it was really as if paper were invented all over again after the egyptians invented it using papyrus. So I'm still working on what the egyptians contributed to the west. I know they preserved ancient greek learning in the library at alexandria but that institution was created by Alexander.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:53 PM (0Hp4r)

663 http://tinyurl.com/4vy4bgd

How to make bacon candy

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 05:53 PM (DHNp4)

664 Who would benefit from this? George Soros and others who bet on the dollar collapsing.
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 05:51 PM (Fo83G)
Didn't Soros just put a whole bunch of money into South American oil as well? ie, oil supplies NOT affected by Mid East turmoil?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (AdK6a)

665 what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization?

Well from a moron's perspective - beer?

Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (bqjJT)

666 Curse the looters

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (j5CHE)

667 1. There is a National Guard company stationed on the border of Egypt and Gaza. 1.a Guard company has no communications with US.

Wait...what?! OUR National Guard?! Am I the only person that didn't know this?

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 05:55 PM (VuLos)

668 Didn't Soros just put a whole bunch of money into South American oil as well? ie, oil supplies NOT affected by Mid East turmoil?

Yes, That is where his oil dollars are invested. Petrobras

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 05:56 PM (j5CHE)

669 I found another interesting tidbit. Canals linking the Nile and the Red Sea have been built dredged and rebuilt many times.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:56 PM (SJ6/3)

670 Thanks Miss80sBaby for articulating the contributions clearly.

Im intrigued by what seems to be a new line of thought here, that because the artifacts are old its OK if they get destroyed? Maybe Im reading some of the comments wrong.

Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (RZ8pf)

671 Well from a moron's perspective - beer?
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (bqjJT)
Thought that was Babylonian...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (AdK6a)

672 How do we have a national guard company without asatellite phone?

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (0Hp4r)

673 Well my Dear, I know some really nice Miners...
Posted by: Harry Mudd at January 29, 2011 03:59 PM (AdK6a)
I don't imagine that a noncom valet/secretary makes much on that flying institution, would you be interested in extra earnings my dear?Posted by: Harcourt Fenton Mudd at January 29, 2011 04:23 PM (vdfwz)
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Try my new fragrance dear, because every woman wants to smell like she passed out and got splattered by an army of drunken Starfleet cadetsPosted by: Lady Gaga at January 29, 2011 04:51 PM (vdfwz)

Thanks but no thanks Mr. Mudd. What do I want with a miner? I have ambitions. You think I'm gonna waste this body and courtesean talents on a miner? I'm after much bigger game, a Starfleet Admiral. Jim is, I mean Captain Kirk is on the fast tack to an Admiral's billetand whither he goes, I goest. As for you Apollo, no offense, but a lifetime of unquestioned servitude and worship is not what I have in mind. Plus, you seriously should consider some anger management counseling. And as for "Lady" Gaga, just ew. EWEWEWE!
Back to my Kegel excercises. Jimsaid even that green belly dancersluthad nothing on me.

Posted by: Yeoman Janice Rand at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (XBM1t)

674 Soros arranged for the oil platforms that Ogabe retired to be sent to Brazil.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 29, 2011 05:58 PM (SJ6/3)

675 The Coptic Christians date back to ancient times. The rest of the old population was Arabized culturally and linguistically, and I'm sure there was a considerable infusion of Arab blood, as well.
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 05:53 PM (tJjm/)
Here's a nice source on some ancient origins of some groups. They address the myth of a palestinian peopleand others. The link "Origin and Identity of the Arabs" addresses Egypt and the Copts.
2) Egypt:

The ancient Egyptians were a Hamitic people and even though they have been in some way involved with the origin of the Ishmaelite Arabs, they remained a distinguishable people that has not been assimilated by the Arab invaders. The Egyptians became Christians in the first centuries c.e., and their genuine descendants are the Copts, who are not Arabs. Even though at present they are a minority in their own homeland, the Arab majority is anyway the result of a foreign invasion performed in the Middle Ages, when the Arabs made of Egypt the outpost for the conquest of Africa.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 05:58 PM (oVQFe)

676 >>Didn't Soros just put a whole bunch of money into South American oil as well? ie, oil supplies NOT affected by Mid East turmoil?

Petrobras. And they are affected all right. Their value will skyrocket.

Meanwhile, drilling in the Gulf, both deep water and shallow, continues to decline.

I hate these fuckers.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 05:58 PM (TMB3S)

677 670 No, I don't want them destroyed but I also don't want americans going in to protect them. They are going to have to do that themselves.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 05:58 PM (0Hp4r)

678 Beer.......Thought that was Babylonian...


We had beer in Texas during The Precambrian so.....

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (j5CHE)

679 Im intrigued by what seems to be a new line of thought here, that because the artifacts are old its OK if they get destroyed? Maybe Im reading some of the comments wrong.
Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 05:57 PM (RZ8pf)
No, the qeustion is do you invade another country to protect ITS artifacts...
ie, are Egyptian "treasures" worth going to war over.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (AdK6a)

680 PGiS, no - not because they are old, but because they are Egyptian. An American Marine's life is worth more than King Tut. Really.

nobody wants the Egyptian museum to be looted, but for heaven's sake, they are OBJECTS, not living human beings

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (pqsMB)

681 665 what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to Western civilization?

Well from a moron's perspective - beer?
Posted by: some wench at January 29, 2011 05:54 PM (bqjJT)

Well: the first stone buildings, statuary considered the artistic inspiration for the ancient Greeks, and the first recorded attempt at monotheism, for starters.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 06:00 PM (tJjm/)

682 In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians'
contribution to Western civilization?

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:41 PM (pqsMB)
You're correct in your doubts. Egypt was an extremely insular empire that had little effect on the greater world and had nothing to do with the development of Western civilization. There was trade and the like, but Egypt never ventured out to bring their civilization or advancements to much of the world. Egypt was very important to Western civilization, much later, in its wheat fields, but that was about it.Some like to claim, these days, that Jewish monotheism was the product of the banned Pharoah, but that is modern Western guilt-driven "noble savage" speculation at its best, and the only way one could really connect Egypt to the development of the West, in terms of content.Egypt's place in history was in being the first major empire, and a very long lasting and impressive one, at that, but it had almost nothing to do with Western civilization. The Carthaginians had more of an effect on the development of Western civilization. Speaking of which, has Tunisia burnt to a crisp, yet?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:01 PM (N49h9)

683 656
650 The current "Egyptians" are primarily Arab Muslims who conquered
Egypt and took it over.The actual Egyptian descendants wereChristian
converts. In other words the ones who are the actual descendants to
thepeople of the Pharoahs are the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

After the Roman conquest, Christians were the majority religion until an Arab-Muslim invasion in the 640s. That's another thing that the Egyptians* helped contribute to, is the spread of Christianity throughout that part of the world, their participation in early Church councils, and their concentration on learning.

*Though obviously not the ancients.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:02 PM (sZ+lP)

684 Egypt's place in history was in being the first major empire, and a very long lasting and impressive one, at that,

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:01 PM (N49h9)

Bah... barbarian wanna be's...

Posted by: Kull, of at January 29, 2011 06:03 PM (AdK6a)

685 sock edit...

Posted by: Kull, of Atlantis at January 29, 2011 06:04 PM (AdK6a)

686 let us remember the Muslim wave of conquests beginning 13 centuries ago, and all the others centuries before and after.

Ain't nobody in Northern Africa, the Middle East, or Southern Europe anything like the folks that were there 45 centuries ago, when the Pyramids were built (put there by Aliens and Wizard-Elf Hybrids).

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:06 PM (n0WLs)

687 @680: Come on, be reaonable. Are the "objects" in a bank vault or the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York worth the life of a marine?

How about a cop's? If bandits stormed the Metropolitan, would you object to a cop risking his life in a shootout with them?

The difference here is the objects are in Egypt, that's true. Still, as cultural heritage they belong to all Mankind.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 06:08 PM (tJjm/)

688 I'm standing here to defend and to protect our national treasure," said one of the men, Farid Saad, a 40-year-old engineer.
Those aren't just national treaasures, they're treasure for all of humanity. Power to the defenders.

Posted by: Max Entropy at January 29, 2011 06:09 PM (GkYyh)

689 Well very far upthread it seemed like some people were wondering why it was that the Egyptian military was protecting the museum. I think they should be doing that.

I think we should be questioning why it is that these pro democracy protesters would want to trash the museum in the first place. Because it is a government building?

I mean really, if you were protesting the government in DC would your first impulse be to trash the Smithsonian?

Posted by: ParanoidGrillInSeattle at January 29, 2011 06:10 PM (RZ8pf)

690 680 PGiS, no - not because they are old, but because they are Egyptian. An American Marine's life is worth more than King Tut. Really.nobody wants the Egyptian museum to be looted, but for heaven's sake, they are OBJECTS, not living human beings
Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (pqsMB)
Then, if one were to follow your rationale and Dagny's rationale, Israelis might as well turn over the Western Wall in Jerusalem to the Palestinians to save bloodshed, since the Palestinian's claim ownership to that pile of rocks, too.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:12 PM (sYrWB)

691 Ain't nobody in Northern Africa, the Middle East, or Southern Europe anything like the folks that were there 45 centuries ago, when the Pyramids were built (put there by Aliens and Wizard-Elf Hybrids).
Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:06 PM (n0WLs)

Yeah yeah.... we know...

Posted by: Mayans at January 29, 2011 06:12 PM (AdK6a)

692 The difference here is the objects are in Egypt, that's true. Still, as cultural heritage they belong to all Mankind.

It is not like they are going to grind them into powder. They will sell them to some subset of all mankind. So, not a big deal. But if you feel they must be secured, head on over.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at January 29, 2011 06:13 PM (pNQJY)

693 >>CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 06:08 PM (tJjm/)

You don't think the optics of US troops in yet another Muslim country that is in chaos might be a tad dicey?

I'm a lot more concerned about the present and future living than dead Egyptians.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2011 06:13 PM (TMB3S)

694 @148: "It's just that I think that something is a little wrong when we are more worried about a couple of destroyed mummies than we are about the filth and stench that many Egyptians live in each and every day with no hope of escaping."
I had a way that that poor Arabs could escape their miserable lives, but noooooooooooooo...you bastards hanged me for it.

Posted by: Chemical Ali at January 29, 2011 06:15 PM (S2GiP)

695 Then, if one were to follow your rationale and Dagny's rationale,
Israelis might as well turn over the Western Wall in Jerusalem to the
Palestinians to save bloodshed, since the Palestinian's claim ownership
to that pile of rocks, too.

Not the same thing.

The Western Wall is, as I understand it, one of Judaism's holiest sites. But go ahead and call it a pile of rocks, asshat.

The contents of the Egyptian museum(s) represents amazing human achievements... connected to a religion long-since abandoned.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (pW2o8)

696 Those aren't just national treaasures, they're treasure for all of humanity. Power to the defenders.
Posted by: Max Entropy at January 29, 2011 06:09 PM (GkYyh)
Cool, when do I get my cut then? OH.... I don't?
Tell me, would YOU be willing to go fight, and maybe die, to protect these artifacts? Would you be willing to send your Son to do so?
Because, as one who HAS been to war... and has a Son in the Service, I am not.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (AdK6a)

697 The difference here is the objects are in Egypt, that's true. Still, as cultural heritage they belong to all Mankind.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 06:08 PM (tJjm/)
But it is the recording, imaging and cataloguing of the objects and their contexts that is most important - understanding them and history through them - not the physical pieces, themselves. It is important to know history, not to have the physical pieces of it sitting around forever.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (N49h9)

698 689 Well
very far upthread it seemed like some people were wondering why it was
that the Egyptian military was protecting the museum. I think they
should be doing that.

I
think we should be questioning why it is that these pro democracy
protesters would want to trash the museum in the first place. Because it is a government building?

I mean really, if you were protesting the government in DC would your first impulse be to trash the Smithsonian?

I think the Army is protecting the buildings and pyramids more due to their significance to the economy (tourism) than because they mean something personal to them. After all, the people who built those pyramids and crafted these antiquities were a lesser (non-Islamic) people who they conquered. But their military should definitely be protecting the museum, pyramids, etc. nonetheless.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:17 PM (sZ+lP)

699 Ain't nobody in Northern Africa, the Middle East, or Southern Europe
anything like the folks that were there 45 centuries ago, when the
Pyramids were built (put there by Aliens and Wizard-Elf Hybrids).
The studies i have heard about show that genetics of a region are very little changed by conquerers and such. Other than migrations, the people in a region are the same ones that were there millenia ago.

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 06:17 PM (DHNp4)

700 If bandits stormed the Metropolitan, would you object to a cop risking his life in a shootout with them? Meh. Maybe, maybe not. I'd rather see them apprehended through overwhelming force and technology.
Are the "objects" in a bank vault or the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York worth the life of a marine? No. And definately not those in Egypt. They want them because they consider them theirs. If they lose them they are either gone or will resurface on the black market. I'd take the black market chance before sending our people in to hope that they can defeat thousands of angry muslims bent on stealing and destroying.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 06:19 PM (0Hp4r)

701 #664 Why yes, yes Soros DID put a lot of money into Brazil's petroleum industry! The SAME petroleum industry that Obama gave several billion dollars to last year for deep-water drilling development, while he killed all drilling in the US Gulf of mexico!

Coincidence, of course.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:19 PM (Fo83G)

702 Because, as one who HAS been to war... and has a Son in the Service, I am not.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (AdK6a)
I've never been to war but I'm with you on the second part. No.friggin.way.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:20 PM (VuLos)

703 #667 Tami I didn't know this either. It showed up in a Chicago paper because relatives were going nuts and calling everyone.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:21 PM (Fo83G)

704 "asshat", huh? Do you really want to get me started, y-not?
BTW, there isn't any difference, you jackass. It just depends on whose ox is being gored.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:22 PM (sYrWB)

705 Obama is toughening rhetoric and asking for Mubarak to "speed-up" his reforms.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:22 PM (sZ+lP)

706 The israeli's are left with the western wall because they DON'T tear down the invader's mosque to rebuild the temple--to save bloodshed. They are only left with a ruin.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 06:23 PM (0Hp4r)

707 Does anyone know much about the economics of (American) Indian tribes? Are the ones that are more successful the ones that focus on new industries and modernization or the ones that focus preserving their "cultural heritage" and marketing to tourists?

There may be some parallel lessons there.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 06:24 PM (pW2o8)

708 703
#667 Tami I didn't know this either. It showed up in a Chicago paper because relatives were going nuts and calling everyone.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:21 PM (Fo83G)
I'm speechless....

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:24 PM (VuLos)

709 Oh, look who's here again. He of the scrambled brain . . .

And what in holy fuck are our national guardsmen doing in Gaza? Silly me, I always thought that by "national" they meant OUR nation.

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 06:25 PM (zxpIo)

710 Technically , they are arabs since they speak arabic, but there are definite genetic differences and many Egyptians do not look like saudi or iraqi arabs.

I am less familiar with egypt, but in morocco the military all look like saddam hussein and the public mostly look berber or moroccan or whatever.

But either way, my people were not around when Washington crossed the Delaware or Lincoln freed the slaves, but I am fucking proud of that and consider it my heritage. I am sure their military feel the same pride in the history of the land they are supposed to defend, and they should. and there is a lot there to be proud of.

Egypt, like Persia, is a once great civilization destroyed by the barbaric arab hordes and their twisted religion.

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 06:25 PM (DHNp4)

711 BTW, there isn't any difference, you jackass.
Keep telling yourself that, jew-hater.

Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 06:25 PM (pW2o8)

712 The Western Wall is, as I understand it, one of Judaism's holiest sites. But go ahead and call it a pile of rocks, asshat. Posted by: Y-not at January 29, 2011 06:16 PM (pW2o

The Western Wall is not holy in Judaism. It is nothing but a retaining wall. It is the Temple Mount that houses one of the only "holy" sites in Judaism - the Holy of Holies in the Temple. The Western Wall is merely all that is left of the Temple above ground.

Jews have already given control of Judaism's only known holy site to muslims (the Holy of Holies, which is why Cohanim were never allowed to visit the Dome of the Rock and the Temple Mount, in case they walk on the area of the Holy of Holies by mistake) which is what they built the Al Aqsa mosque on top of. BTW, muslims claim that the Temple was never there and that Jews are all liars. The Waqf has been intentionally destroying as much of the Temple Mount as they can get away wihth - which is A LOT! They took to the Temple Mount with bulldozers and routinely throw out any artifacts they run across, lest Jews have stronger claims to it.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:25 PM (N49h9)

713 Somehow, I just don't see the responsibility for preserving Egyptian antiquities to be that of the US. One US Marine is worth a hundred King Tuts paraphernalia (to me at least).
I think I could extend this to many other situations in the ME.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (alr7n)

714 Yes, That is where his oil dollars are invested. Petrobras

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2011 05:56 PM

IIRC, one of the Traitor-in-Chief's early -- and underreported -- acts was to send a whole shitload of our money to Petrobras. Some "green energy" bullshit, I think.

I, too, am suspicious that the Mohammedan Mouthpiece (ours, that is) may have more to do with what's going on in Egypt than we know. And if he is, it's another addition to the list of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that should have him out of office and looking at some hard orange-jumpsuit time.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (Ulu3i)

715 Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 06:17 PM (DHNp4)

Interesting.

Thanks for the info.

Posted by: Typical USA Undergraduate at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (n0WLs)

716 I found this on the Nat'l. Guard in Egypt:

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) Illinois National Guard officials say the 440 Illinois soldiers on a yearlong peace-keeping mission in Egypt have not been seriously affected by the rioting in Cairo and other major Egyptian cities.

The Illinois troops aren't able to use commercial communication methods, which the Egyptian government has shut down, but Guard officials in Springfield say they have been in contact with the soldiers.

Guard officials tell the (Springfield) State Journal-Register that the Illinois troops, who are stationed in the Sinai Peninsula near the Egyptian-Israeli border, have not been targeted during the riots and are hundreds of miles from the unrest.

The Illinois Guard's 2nd Battalion, 123rd Field Artillery Regiment deployed to Egypt in May. About 20 members of the Springfield-based 233rd Military Police Company are also deployed there.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:28 PM (VuLos)

717 Evil sock from Hell.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:30 PM (n0WLs)

718 IIRC, one of the Traitor-in-Chief's early -- and
underreported -- acts was to send a whole shitload of our money to
Petrobras. Some "green energy" bullshit, I think.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (Ulu3i)
It was worse than that. Hussein was stopping our offshore drilling while, at the same time, giving a $10 billion loan (or guarantee) to Petrobras to develop offshore fields in far deeper water and more hazardous conditions.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:31 PM (N49h9)

719 What part of National in National Guard don't I understand?

If these troops get F****ed, it is time for serious retribution.

Oh wait I forgot who we, in out infinite wisdom, elected to be CinC!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 06:31 PM (alr7n)

720 Yeah, International Forces are stationed in the Sinai.

Started decades ago.

Peace Treaty shit.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:32 PM (n0WLs)

721 710
....But either way, my people were
not around when Washington crossed the Delaware or Lincoln freed the
slaves, but I am fucking proud of that and consider it my heritage. I am
sure their military feel the same pride in the history of the land they
are supposed to defend, and they should. and there is a lot there to be
proud of.

Neither were mine and so am I, but here's the difference-- the ancestors of the people who crafted such things are people they slaughtered in the name of religion and continue to oppress. They haven't shown much to demonstrate they accept the Copts, so why would they feel the same about their artifacts?

*Which they aren't even strictly theirs.
Egypt, like Persia, is a once great civilization destroyed by the barbaric arab hordes and their twisted religion.

Agreed.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:32 PM (sZ+lP)

722 I reiterate, y-not, you're a very ignorant woman. You don't know squat about anything.
Anyone as dense, shallow, ditzy and clueless as you are shouldn't be so opinionated.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (sYrWB)

723 Was it the Muslim Brotherhood that severely killed Sadat?

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (n0WLs)

724 Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:28 PM (VuLos)
Soooo... we got a Field Artillery Regiment sitting on the border between Egypt, Israel, and teh Gaza Strip???
Wow... how dumb is that...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (AdK6a)

725 Twitter report says that the Bedouin are in control of two cities on Gaza border.

Al Jazeera posted a map which showed violence at both ends of the Suez Canal.

And I do not understand why I am able to give more pertinent information that out national media, and I am a housewife sitting at a computer in central Indiana!!

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (Fo83G)

726 American troops have served in the Sinai since the peace treaty between Sadat and Israel signed the peace treaty back under Carter. The paratroopers who died in the crash at Gander airport in Canada back in the mid '80s were returning from duty in the Sinai.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (mV+es)

727 Brian, I object to your unwarranted attack on Y-not. It is without merit, personal, and totally uncalled for.

Please stick to the subject or find somewhere else to go.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:35 PM (Fo83G)

728 Unfortunately the folks looting antiquities will probably melt a lot of them down for the gold. From the pictures I have seen they have not exactly been very careful about how they remove these things from the displays.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 06:36 PM (mV+es)

729 Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (sYrWB)
Points and laughs, hard, for a long time, at the troll.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2011 06:36 PM (XBM1t)

730 underreported -- acts was to send a whole shitload of our money to Petrobras. Some "green energy" bullshit, I think.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 29, 2011 06:27 PM (Ulu3i)

It was worse than that. Hussein was stopping our offshore drilling while, at the same time, giving a $10 billion loan (or guarantee) to Petrobras to develop offshore fields in far deeper water and more hazardous conditions.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:31 PM (N49h9)

Yes this is more of the classical misdirection of the left enviroweenies. We can't do deep water drilling close to the US because it is bad for the environment, even though we actually have some level of competence and oversight in managing these rigs (unless they are from BP and the campaign contributions outweigh the oversight).

BUT we CAN support (and fund with US taxpayer dollars) similar or even more risky drilling offshore in Brazil. Purely coincidental that Soros has PETROBRAS ties!

It is so good to have competent patriots in charge!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2011 06:37 PM (alr7n)

731 And I do not understand why I am able to give more pertinent information that out national media, and I am a housewife sitting at a computer in central Indiana!!
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (Fo83G)
Because you are actualy out looking for information? Instead of waiting for your copy of the Lefty/Administration talking points memo?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 29, 2011 06:37 PM (AdK6a)

732 Miss Marple, kiss my ass. I always respond appropriately.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:42 PM (sYrWB)

733 Was it the Muslim Brotherhood that severely killed Sadat?

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (n0WLs)
Not really. It was an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Zawahiri), that did the deed.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:42 PM (N49h9)

734 Miss Marple - Brian is a froll who enoys making trouble and trying to provoke commenters into attacking her. Several days ago he posted a totally OT observation about a US Navy sailor lost at sea after going overboard accidentally,speculating (with zero evidence or reason) that they were homosexual. All for noother reason thatto starttrouble.

Brian, you never have answered,"How's the bean?"

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 06:43 PM (mV+es)

735 Aw, frak.

You know what this Egypt stuff means?

Frakking Tom Friedman is going to be on Meet the Democrats tomorrow morning.

"Why can't Egypt be China for a day?"

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:44 PM (n0WLs)

736

In all seriousness - what was the ancient Egyptians' contribution to
Western civilization? [...]

They gave us the question mark. It's the view of the ass end of a cat.

?

Get it?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2011 06:44 PM (7+pP9)

737 Not really. It was an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Zawahiri), that did the deed.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 29, 2011 06:42 PM (N49h9)

Oh, I see.

Splitters.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:45 PM (n0WLs)

738 731
And I do not understand why I am able to give more pertinent information
that out national media, and I am a housewife sitting at a computer in
central Indiana!!
Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM
(Fo83G)Yes, but you tell me which Intercontinental makes the best martinis?

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 29, 2011 06:45 PM (DHNp4)

739 #734 Thank you. I remembered that thread but forgot it was Brian.

Well, he will be in the ignore spot now and I will go on with commenting on the topic at hand.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:45 PM (Fo83G)

740 nine coconuts, I can't tell you about which Intercontinental makes the best martinis. I always make mine at home, extra-dry.

No martinis this evening, though. I am working and posting news in between.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 06:47 PM (Fo83G)

741 You know our media is beyond pathetic when the best information comes from Al Jeezera (AJE). Al Jezeera.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:49 PM (sZ+lP)

742 #734 - Tattletale. LOL(Geeez, you are such a loser.)

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:51 PM (sYrWB)

743 You know our media is beyond pathetic when the best information comes from Al Jeezera (AJE). Al Jezeera.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:49 PM (sZ+lP)
Never in my life would I have believed I'd be watching Al Jazeera online for two days.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 06:51 PM (VuLos)

744

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 05:59 PM (pqsMB)


So I've got this fertilizer plant with all sorts of acid tanks.

What's the best plan?

Posted by: Trashcan Man at January 29, 2011 06:52 PM (7+pP9)

745 743
Never in my life would I have believed I'd be watching Al Jazeera online for two days.
Same here. Makes me feel like I need to shower again afterward, too.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 29, 2011 06:53 PM (sZ+lP)

746 709
Oh, look who's here again. He of the scrambled brain . . .

Hey, untangling neurons is hard!

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 06:53 PM (pqsMB)

747 Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:34 PM (sYrWB)
You are not going to be happy until someone rapes you, are you?
Like mother, like son.

Posted by: Pat Fucking Caddell at January 29, 2011 06:55 PM (P3DxV)

748 Same here. Makes me feel like I need to shower again afterward, too.
Pics or it didn''t happen.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 06:57 PM (P3DxV)

749 That Huddy gal on Fox has nice cans.

Posted by: eman at January 29, 2011 06:57 PM (n0WLs)

750 He's a troll that ace banned. Apparently he snuck back in claiming that he was wrongfully banned.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 06:58 PM (oVQFe)

751 Bringing my mom into it, eh Garret? You're slimy, guy, you're really slimy.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 06:59 PM (sYrWB)

752 I was never banned, asshole. You're consistent, though. You're still a liar.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:01 PM (sYrWB)

753 Brian, why do you come to a place where you're clearly not wanted?

Posted by: chemjeff has high speed rail in his pants at January 29, 2011 07:02 PM (pqsMB)

754 I don't think Brian is a real troll. Just a person who started sock puppeting a troll back before the election and apparently decided she liked the negative attention/chaos causing.

Brian - I'm actually serious asking about the bean.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 07:03 PM (mV+es)

755 Brian, why do you come to a place where you're clearly not wanted?
It's a slow day at the glory hole.

Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:04 PM (1F/m8)

756 You know BriBri, you're doing a bangup jobfor someone who's typing on a spooge-encrusted keyboard.
Keep up the good work Tiger.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 29, 2011 07:05 PM (A/oSU)

757 Bringing my mom into it, eh Garret? You're slimy, guy, you're really slimy.
Look, it's not my fault she's a whore. It's best to just learn to deal with it.
Think of it this way:She'sbeen looted.
Whybother trying to protectthe burnedout shell of the remains?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:05 PM (P3DxV)

758 It's a slow day at the glory hole.Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:04 PM (1F/m
Trust him. Ron would know.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:07 PM (P3DxV)

759 See a shrink, garret. You'll feel better, and your neighbors will feel safer, you sick freak.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:08 PM (sYrWB)

760 Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:07 PM (P3DxV)
Oh look who finally sobered up and crawled out of his puddle of vomit to give us all somewisdom.

Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:10 PM (1F/m8)

761 Brian is clearly a 12-year-old. Probably a fat, smelly, pimply one with no friends. Probably been 86'd from the prog-blogs he admires and so he's ended up here. I do think it would be nice if Ace dropped the banhammer on his pointy little head.

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 07:12 PM (zxpIo)

762 752 I was never banned, asshole. You're consistent, though. You're still a liar.
Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:01 PM (sYrWB)
Sure thing. Its just a mystery that you stopped posting from around august to the end of December after you pissed off ace enough that he went off on you.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 07:19 PM (oVQFe)

763 @712: it's a shame the Israelis didn't take advantage of the Six Days War back in '67 to evict the Muslims from the Temple Mount. The reported cultural destruction that goes on there as Muslims seek to destroy all evidence of Judaism at its holy site is despicable.

Imagine if archeologists were allowed to explore there... if they found the actual site of the Holy of Holies! To stand on the site where the Old Testament assures us God lived on Earth... amazing.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 07:19 PM (tJjm/)

764 I'm all civility these days, Brian. I'm just trying to help you identify the source of your need for abuse. What otherexplanation is there as to why you post here.
It can't merely be that you are dumb enough to think that your argumernts are worth sharing with others. Then again, if you are dumb as I suspect, this wouldn't occur to you.
Equating the Western Wall to the treasures uncovered by Howard Carter in Tut's Tomb?
I don't even know where to begin accessing your stupid in order to best explain the layers of idiocy contained herein...It's like a giant onion of dumb.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:21 PM (P3DxV)

765 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 29, 2011 07:19 PM (tJjm/)

There's some interesting stuff, archaelogically speaking, going on under the Western Wall (Israeli land).
Of course, the pali muzzies are besides themselves trying to keep the evil Juice from doing any archaelogical surveys. I was reading some stuff a few nights ago on it...I'll see if I can find it to post a link for you.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:25 PM (P3DxV)

766 is jea john ryan?

Posted by: Uncle Jed at January 29, 2011 07:26 PM (vXwmy)

767
I don't even know where to begin accessing your
stupid in order to best explain the layers of idiocy contained
herein...It's like a giant onion of dumb.


Garrett,


If you don't mind I'm going to take that to work Monday and see if that gets me the rest of the week off.


Thanks in advance

Posted by: Shannow at January 29, 2011 07:27 PM (mwH3+)

768 766 is jea john ryan?
Posted by: Uncle Jed at January 29, 2011 07:26 PM (vXwmy)
No, the archie bunker troll is John Ryan.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 07:33 PM (oVQFe)

769 Uncle Jed at 766 - JEA is not John Ryan or any other troll for that matter. He comments here fairly rarely, more often at Patterico's. While he can be trollish at times he is mostly honest, if liberal.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 07:34 PM (mV+es)

770 Snipers opening fire on the demonstrators in central Cairo?

http://tinyurl.com/4hx68qj

Posted by: Anachronda at January 29, 2011 07:36 PM (6fER6)

771 Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2011 07:10 PM (1F/m
Didn't I tell you to leave this sort of stuff to the adults?

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 07:37 PM (P3DxV)

772 And the guy calling himself knuckledragger or some variation is erg. Apparantly he ran out of literary figures he's heard of.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 29, 2011 07:38 PM (mV+es)

773 "Then again, if you are dumb as I suspect, this wouldn't occur to you." - jackass
Saying it's so ain't going to make it so, and it ain't going to make you smarter, and it ain't going to make you feel any better about yourself either, you creepy, littleloser.
You should see a psychiatrist about your inferiority complex. You really should.
But then, he'll just tell you that you are inferior and inadequate. So save the money.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:39 PM (sYrWB)

774 769 JEA insisted last week that the corporations controlled Rush, Fox, Hannity, etc. They put out a message and the right repeats it. It's obvious and documented.
Anyone who says that is a liberal troll. Sorry.

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 07:39 PM (0Hp4r)

775 Blue yster Cult: Hot Rails to Hell

http://tinyurl.com/4hecxwy

Posted by: joh at January 29, 2011 07:45 PM (JEvSn)

776 "Its just a mystery that you stopped posting from around august to the end of December after you pissed off ace enough that he went off on you." - batty dimwit
Well, I'll clear up the mystery for you, you battydimwit. The explanation is simple:
Unlike you and these otherunemployableundesireables, I have a life ..., and a job.
It ain't that complicated, fool, and as for Ace going off on me, you're delusional.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 07:56 PM (sYrWB)

777 Let's see who's the liar? Well there's this:
207
"We all of us sin, and we all of us have character flaws." - Ace.

Oh, I dunno, Ace, I don't think that being pretentious and too wordyare character flaws. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Posted by: Atrollpasinthru at August 21, 2010 04:22 PM (sYrWB)
And then there's Ace's Response.
212 >>>, I don't think that being pretentious pretentious? Really? It's funny, I've been meaning to ban you forever but kept forgetting to. Thanks for the reminder. (By the way, in case you're worried I'm just banning him because he insulted me: No. His monicker is quite accurate: he is a habitual troll constantly insulting everybody.)
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2010 04:25 PM (QbA6l)

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 07:56 PM (oVQFe)

778 Nice catch, buzzion. I'm sure we will all be told in no uncertain terms what a horrible and deranged person you are in 3, 2, 1 . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (zxpIo)

779 BTW, dimwit, Archie Bunker is not John Ryan. He's one of your own, and a liberal, masquerading as a cnservative, and you're too dumb to realize it..

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (sYrWB)

780 He's one of your own, and a liberal, masquerading as a cnservative, and you're too dumb to realize it..

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (sYrWB)
He's one of our own (meaning a conservative?) and a liberal?, masquerading as a conservative? and we don't realize he's liberal?

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)

781 News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from2 to 5 people using this computer.
Usually multi-tasking - not living here at AoS like you do.
I always use only my own name. Unlike you, I neverhide behindsock puppets.
It's called ethics and integrity, to which you can not relate.
Dayum son, you are dumb. You post without activating your brain.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:11 PM (sYrWB)

782 Well, Bri, with all the choices you have on the internet, why don't you go hang out with other smart people like yourself? There's Kos and Little Green Snotballs and FireDogLake and, really, no end to places where you'd feel more comfortable. It's curious that all you want to do is come here and throw your little tantrums. It would be one thing if you were even slightly amusing. Sadly, that is not the case.

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:14 PM (zxpIo)

783 You should see a psychiatrist about your inferiority complex. You really should.
But then, he'll just tell you that you are inferior and inadequate. So save the money.

My guess is that you yourself have found psychiatry necessary. Or, perhaps you are one of those obnoxious children of one. Only thing left would be that you area professional one, yourself.
You see. Only these three types of individuals, in my experience, would deign todiagnose anotherperson over the net. You are an obvious troll who has mommy issues.
As to the possible complex that I may harbor, I can assure you it's ot one of inferiority or inadequecy.
Move along. Lest I expose more of your weakness.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 08:15 PM (P3DxV)

784 News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from2 to 5 people using this computer.
So, it's in your mother's bedroom.
Tell one of your 'uncles' to shove a cock in your mouth. Thanks.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2011 08:18 PM (P3DxV)

785 Does anyone really believe Obama knows WFT is going on? That idiot probably beleives this is live video from Tucson. Obama is so incompetent that he will manage to screw the world's economy up by saying something stupid. In the end we will have no Suez canal for oil (And our carriers will have to sail around Africa to get to the Gulf) and gas will be $5.00 a gallon and the numbnuts on CNN will blame Bush and Cheny for helping the oil companies make millions on the backs of the poor people of America.

Posted by: James Mulmquest at January 29, 2011 08:19 PM (zVOB7)

786 Ok, here's the post from JEA where he outed himself for any doubters:
71 And conservative media - Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity - isn't at all mixed together, doesn't at all coordinate its message engineered by its masters hidden behind big corporate walls. What utter hypocrisy and stupidity. This meme from the right is tiresome, quite tiresome after 20-plus years. When Fox and Limbaugh get lower ratings than CNN and MSNBC, when there's no WSJ and Washington Times and National Review feel free to bitch and whine about the "liberal, conspiratorial press" then. The boy who cried wolf wasn't this bad. Oh, I almost forgot - let the name-calling begin. I'll start things off - troll, moron, jackass, jag-off. And BTW, I'm really getting tired of these. You could at least come up with something original.
Posted by: JEA at January 12, 2011 08:43 AM (R5LB3)

Posted by: dagny at January 29, 2011 08:19 PM (0Hp4r)

787 News Flash, dolt: At any given time, there are from2 to 5 people using this computer.
State hospital. Knew it.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 08:20 PM (PSKdh)

788 #783 - I'm done with you. You are one evil, very sickand very slimy low-life.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:22 PM (sYrWB)

789
News Flash,dolt:--Glenn Greenwald? Is that you, Glenn?

Posted by: irongrampa at January 29, 2011 08:23 PM (ud5dN)

790 778 Nice catch, buzzion. I'm sure we will all be told in no uncertain terms what a horrible and deranged person you are in 3, 2, 1 . . .
Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:02 PM (zxpIo)
Its all he's capable of so yeah. I mean you look back in the archives and you can see that's his only way of insulting everyone.
And really you've got to laugh. First I'm a liar. Then its that he wasn't posting because he works. Now its there are 2 to 5 people using the computer to post. But they all post and insult exactly the same. And miraculously all of them were too busy for the past few months to comment after that thread I just linked to.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 08:24 PM (oVQFe)

791 It isn't fun to play with you. I can't make fools of you. You make a fool out of yourselves.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:30 PM (sYrWB)

792 You're a weird one, Brian.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 08:32 PM (PSKdh)

793 Buzzion, you couldn't be more pathetic. You're drowning and grasping at straws.

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:33 PM (sYrWB)

794 Really funny on talking about use of sockpuppets. Since you know all the "2 to 5 people" that use your computer used to do nothing but sockpuppets. Never stuck with a name for more than 2 weeks. Always changing.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 08:34 PM (oVQFe)

795 I'm done with you. You are one evil, very sickand very slimy low-life.
Am I Evil?

Posted by: Metallica at January 29, 2011 08:35 PM (P3DxV)

796 Am I Demon?

Posted by: Danzig at January 29, 2011 08:37 PM (P3DxV)

797 #794 - See #793

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2011 08:37 PM (sYrWB)

798 So what did you do to get ace to unban you? Claim that you were wrongly caught in the spam filter?

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2011 08:39 PM (oVQFe)

799 Brian, what are you angry about?

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 08:44 PM (PSKdh)

800 Brain doesn't answer rational questions, brew. My guess is that he inadvertently got sand in his vagina in the sandbox at the housing project one day and has been plagued with painful yeast infections ever since.

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:50 PM (zxpIo)

801 Thanks, Peach. Well. I was just thinking he had a bit of a chip on his shoulder for no apparent reason. Thought it might helpto unload it.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2011 08:54 PM (PSKdh)

802 Yeah, well, I asked him a little while ago why he even comes here, since we're all such a skeevy bunch of retarded fuckwits, but he was strangely silent on the matter. I'm totally in favor of a re-ban.

Posted by: Peaches at January 29, 2011 08:56 PM (zxpIo)

803 You all will be happy to know that Obama is on his way to Axelrod's going away party at Linda Douglass's house.

Nice he was able to fit the crisis in between his daughter's basketball game and the party.

Fill your cars up tomorrow, if you haven't already done so.


Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2011 09:36 PM (Fo83G)

804 If you wanna see for reals:

Black Swan

Posted by: Anka Machines at January 29, 2011 09:42 PM (s7I0E)

805 Link Fail, <sigh>

Black Swan

Posted by: Anka Machines at January 29, 2011 09:43 PM (s7I0E)

806 Just in case anyone cares now that your all shi8-faced on VAL-u-rite and Wonka bars...or is that Ho-Ho's
no matter, Egypt is the lynch-pin for what will be a long list of events which will dramatically alter those pesky little pencil lines drawn by the Brits defining A-rab neighborhoods post WWII like nothing we have seen in our generation. The ground-work of the Caliphate is being laid right before our eyes and Obummer is the de-facto Nero of the violin and cheese set.

Now, back to your VAL-u-rite or maybe given the levity, some Johnny Walker Blue Label is in order, NOT that any of us could afford that given this "RECOVERY", might be dissssstracting!

Night M&M's

Posted by: Richard at January 29, 2011 10:17 PM (BOCjk)

807 High Speed rail, come 2012 Obama and the Dems can expect to be driven out of DC on a rail.

Posted by: Gary B at January 30, 2011 12:46 AM (1gWfF)

808 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure yet?

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at January 30, 2011 09:35 AM (GTbGH)

809 that site you linked to (hyperallergic) is an extremists, left wing, fascist, fox news hating, msnbc loving propaganda outlet.

Notice the comments for this story make no mention of the Muslim Brotherhood and for good reason...they will delete the comments and block you from posting.

Meanwhile, left wing antagonists and sheep are playing up the story that the POLICE infact are the looters....in the 'about' section its described as a 'husband and husband' blog team...par for the course as far as homosexual tolerance of dissenting opinion....

Posted by: metronil at January 30, 2011 10:18 AM (iMGtP)

810 Sandmonkey is twittering.

Posted by: 29Victor at January 30, 2011 03:56 PM (ES9R7)

811 It's not their history. It's Coptic Christian history that goes back that 5,000 years. It's the Copts who are the true Egyptians, not the Arabs.

Posted by: apodoca at January 30, 2011 11:23 PM (C4Y9x)

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