OK, will Obama really do this?

Since the OP was farkled factually (yea, that means I blew it), here's a good question. Obama claimed:.

...And because the American people deserve to know that special interests aren’t larding up legislation with pet projects, both parties in Congress should know this: if a bill comes to my desk with earmarks inside, I will veto it...
That kinda language is an iron clad promise. A blood oath to perform a specific action under specific triggering circumstances.

Is this another promise with an expiration date?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 07:23 AM



Comments

1 I didn't watch the entire speech, only parts highlighted. I thought is was just a polished line of BS and as everyone knows you can not polish a turd.

He spoke eloquently about deceasing the budget at the same time he spoke about increasing spending.

Can the public actually be that stupid?

Unfortunately yes.

Let's hope that the turnout for the stupids is low.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 07:26 AM (M9Ie6)

2 Don't worry Vic; if the economy is still in the shitter in November 2012, this cocksucker will be Carter 2 assuming the Repuke dimwits don't give us another McCain.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 07:30 AM (olKiY)

3 I swear I heard him say, "if a bill comes to my desk with earmarks inside, I will veto it..." because I just about broke my neck doing a doubletake. Could huffpo be rewriting it per WH instructions so he can't be held to it? I'm going to try to find it on video.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:37 AM (F+Y9Z)

4 Let's go to the videotape. He made a clear veto promise.

Posted by: Warner wolf at January 26, 2011 07:38 AM (BZEkR)

5 YES! He said it here at the end of the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqctK1HIA8A

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:39 AM (F+Y9Z)

6 Sorry, I'm a linktard.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:40 AM (F+Y9Z)

7 Nice Warner Wolf reference; I used to listen to him on WTOP radio

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 07:40 AM (olKiY)

8 Sorry, PA, but that HuffPo link goes to last year's SOTU. The pix shows Pelosi, Barky starts with 'Madam Speaker' and there is no mention of Giffords.

Ms Choksondik (heh), I, too, heard him say I will veto it last night.

Posted by: Retread at January 26, 2011 07:41 AM (okCHU)

9 So HuffChoads is lying to not make Bammy look good? Has Zsa Zsa had a stroke?

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 07:42 AM (olKiY)

10 Good work morons. I could have sworn I heard him say it too.

So now what should we talk about? Trains?

Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 07:44 AM (5iBhX)

11 Pat Buchanan just said that Ebola made proposals last night that made him sound like a RINO..
..Pat knows from RINO

Posted by: beedubya at January 26, 2011 07:45 AM (AnTyA)

12 Retread, you're right. That's last year's huge embarrassing failure, not last night's.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:45 AM (F+Y9Z)

13 So now what should we talk about? Trains?
Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 07:44 AM



This administration is running a train on the country. Is anyone else's ass sore?

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:47 AM (F+Y9Z)

14 Very nice catch, PA..
...but you actually read both versions??...my condolences...watching it was torture enough for me

Posted by: beedubya at January 26, 2011 07:48 AM (AnTyA)

15 Brain fade, but I made a deft "pivot" on the OP.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 07:48 AM (w3/2z)

16 Actual HuffPo headline this morning by Howard Fineman...

Obama State Of The Union 2011: Love Train In The House!

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 07:49 AM (F+Y9Z)

17 I will veto it was the only line he said that I could agree with. Well, besides God bless America.

Posted by: Retread at January 26, 2011 07:50 AM (Y9vLg)

18 My prediction is this promise won't last two weeks before being broken.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 07:50 AM (w3/2z)

19 Shit!! A train won't fit in my garage

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 07:50 AM (AnTyA)

20 A train won't fit in my garage

The steel wheels are hell on asphalt too.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 07:52 AM (w3/2z)

21 It's an easy promise to make. Any spending bill will originate in the House or need to be voted on there, and the House GOP would have to let the earmark slide through.

He's taking credit for what the House GOP already pretty much has to do or risk angering the base.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 26, 2011 07:53 AM (TpXEI)

22 Maybe Odummy's thinking about the term "rail" from back when he was giving blowjobs to Sinclair.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 07:56 AM (olKiY)

23 ny spending bill will originate in the House or need to be voted on
there, and the House GOP would have to let the earmark slide through.

Earmarks can get slipped in at the conference stage or by the Senate too.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 07:58 AM (w3/2z)

24 Off Topic, Why is a republican congressman sponsoring legislation that is a violation of privacy, and an intrusion on private industry? Cloaked in the name of fighting crime?

http://tinyurl.com/4s5nwwk

Posted by: bowel movement at January 26, 2011 07:58 AM (Mul5k)

25 It's an easy promise to make. Any spending bill will originate in the House or need to be voted on there, and the House GOP would have to let the earmark slide through.He's taking credit for what the House GOP already pretty much has to do or risk angering the base.
Waiting for the GOP to call Hussein out of this....waiting...waiting...Boehner...Boehner...

Posted by: havedash at January 26, 2011 08:00 AM (sFD5n)

26 All of Barak Obama's statements come with an expiration date. All of them. Somewhere on Campaign Spot Geraghty has a great post running throught them

Posted by: Zakn at January 26, 2011 08:00 AM (zyaZ1)

27 Good point, Bevel. He tried to do the same thing by claiming credit for the success in Iraq.

Posted by: Retread at January 26, 2011 08:01 AM (okCHU)

28 I guess it depends on what your definition of "earmark" is.
On the other hand, as #21 says, it's an easy promise to make to veto bills that has R support in congress...

Posted by: Erik at January 26, 2011 08:03 AM (KBqQZ)

29 @11: that's the best description of the One I've EVER seen: Ebola made proposals last night...

Couldn't bear to watch the speech. In fact, whenever he appears on any news show, I turn the TV off. He is such scum. Period....

Posted by: evensickerofObama at January 26, 2011 08:03 AM (RFFqc)

30
President Sputnik

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:05 AM (2NNz2)

31 Is this another promise with an expiration date?

A better question would be "expiration second". All of his lies expire as soon as they exit his mouth.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 08:05 AM (M9Ie6)

32 He made the same promise during the campaign.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/how-kosher-is-o.html

Lying fucktard. Sorry, President Fucktard.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at January 26, 2011 08:06 AM (F+Y9Z)

33 Imagine how far we'd be today if we went to the moon with trains. Its mind boggling.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 08:06 AM (w3/2z)

34 Just saw a commercial for Lectric Shave woth Carmen Electra..
(sigh) ...it looks like she is starting that transition from "smokin' fuckin' hot" to "pretty good looking older woman"

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 08:06 AM (AnTyA)

35 Asshole McCain on FF says Obama said he will veto earmarks.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 08:06 AM (M9Ie6)

36
so...

by all y'all's silence on Ryan's rebuttal, I take it that it was a bust?

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:08 AM (2NNz2)

37 @32, you just described 80% of the speech.

Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 08:08 AM (veZ9n)

38 The Prez really digs our tunes!

Hey, Soul Sister!

Posted by: Train at January 26, 2011 08:08 AM (9hSKh)

39 by all y'all's silence on Ryan's rebuttal, I take it that it was a bust?
Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:08 AM (2NNz2
Nah...it's just that that nut got blown last night

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 08:10 AM (AnTyA)

40 Keep talking trains, Barky.

Posted by: The Wreck of Old 97 at January 26, 2011 08:11 AM (okCHU)

41
Oh

I wasn't around for any of it. I was expecting to see Ryan's speech get its own post, though.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:12 AM (se4E3)

42 I guess it depends on how the president defines earmarks. Plus, I heard a commentator last night say he was referring to "anonymous" earmarks.

But, I had another thought last night about the seating arrangements. I wonder if part of the reason was to hide the fact that there are now a few black Republican Congressmen and that's something they didn't want people to notice. Especially in the black community, you would think there would be more publicity about it since the party is accused of not being attractive to minorities.

Posted by: sydney jane at January 26, 2011 08:12 AM (eo9zu)

43
b-dub,
I know you're on Ace's shitlist and you're a secret Paulian, but I still like you.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:12 AM (2NNz2)

44 Train in Vain? Sounds like a stimulus program for The Clash.

Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 08:13 AM (veZ9n)

45
President Amtrak

I dubbed Obama President Amtrak two years ago because he's a government money pit.

Now he's literally...President Amtrak.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:14 AM (2NNz2)

46 Is this another promise with an expiration date?
That isa rhetorical question, right?

Posted by: Don Carne at January 26, 2011 08:15 AM (wSNS7)

47 So now what should we talk about? Trains? Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 07:44 AM Well, that or salmon.

Posted by: Deanna at January 26, 2011 08:16 AM (k1k7O)

48 Yeah, the NAZIS really upped train ridership from 1939-45, too.

Posted by: Godwin Rules! at January 26, 2011 08:19 AM (MMC8r)

49 So now what should we talk about? Trains? Posted by: Andy at January 26, 2011 07:44 AM Well, that or salmon.
Posted by: Deanna at January 26, 2011 08:16 AM (k1k7O)
A few years back I took a train from Madrid to Paris and I had salmon for dinner on it

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 08:20 AM (AnTyA)

50 Is this another promise with an expiration date?
What do you think? It will be expired the first bill with an earmark crosses his desk.

Posted by: steveegg at January 26, 2011 08:22 AM (51MkX)

51 He just doesn't like people calling them EARmarks.

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 08:23 AM (MMC8r)

52 I get SOTU confused with STFU.

Posted by: profligatewaste at January 26, 2011 08:24 AM (b3rrc)

53 The only way of catching a train I have ever discovered is to miss the train before

Posted by: Chesterton at January 26, 2011 08:24 AM (9hSKh)

54 The first time it comes up, he will say something like, "This bill is of such importance that I will sign despite my objections. Now, the next time..."

Posted by: Steve L. at January 26, 2011 08:24 AM (Gkhxf)

55 Earmarks can get slipped in at the conference stage or by the Senate too.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 26, 2011 07:58 AM (w3/2z)
Doesn't the house have to vote on the final bill after conference?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 26, 2011 08:26 AM (TpXEI)

56 For some reason didn't listen to the SOTU - oh that's right - if I wanted to listen to a bunch of outrageous lies I'd go to a topless bar and pay some beautiful young dancer to tell me how attractive a man going bald in patches is.



Posted by: An Observation at January 26, 2011 08:26 AM (ylhEn)

57
Does anyone give a shit that OprahfickingWinfrey has a half-sister?

I had no idea it her family was of such great importance.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:27 AM (se4E3)

58 http://tinyurl.com/giveaphuck

Posted by: ∅ at January 26, 2011 08:28 AM (0ba8c)

59
I know so little about Oprah that ANYTHING she tells me will come as a complete surprise...that will make me shrug with indifference.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:28 AM (se4E3)

60
Did you hear this? Democrats say we can't raise the retirement age because...

only the 'rich' are living longer. The average 'worker' is not living longer.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:29 AM (2NNz2)

61 WTF happened? My tinyurl-fu is weak!

Posted by: ∅ at January 26, 2011 08:31 AM (0ba8c)

62
I made a joke yesterday about tweeting my sneezes.

But we have people today who are so narcissistic that they think others wait with baited breath to learn about their minute-to-minute activities and thoughts.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:34 AM (se4E3)

63 Obama promising to veto a bill with earmarks is like me promising to turn down a threesome with Christina Hendricks and Allison Stokke. It's the easiest promise in the world to make. The House GOP isn't going to let any earmarks hit his desk, just as Joan Holloway isn't going to help me out of my pants.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 26, 2011 08:35 AM (IxLK9)

64
I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't give two shits from a rat's ass about Oprah.

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:35 AM (2NNz2)

65 Eventhough Luntz is a leany lefty carnival hawker his focus group last night was reduced to only the black people still defending Obama although the group was divided between 13 Obama voters and 11 republicans. Even one of the black Obama voters said that he just doesn't believe Obama anymore, He keeps lying. The republicans reacted badly to "bipartisanship" of course but why? Obviously because they weren't too interested in bipartisanship when they were in control and suddenly see the value in it.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:36 AM (UwFY0)

66 Hey PA,

That line actually came from BOEHNER first:

"If President Obama is truly serious about ending earmarks, he should
oppose Senate Democrats’ pork-laden omnibus spending bill and announce
he will veto it if necessary," incoming House Speaker John Boehner
(R-Ohio) said Tuesday in a statement.

from The Hill
12/16/10

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 08:37 AM (penCf)

67 Did the Supreme Court show up?
I didn't watch.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2011 08:37 AM (w7Lv+)

68 High speed trains are sexy.

Posted by: Jugears McF*ckstick at January 26, 2011 08:37 AM (GwPRU)

69
I did hear the clip when Obama said he would pretend to 'consider' the Republican idea for malpractice insurance reform to end frivolous lawsuits.

And someone booed loudly. Who was it?

Posted by: ol ye Soothsayer at January 26, 2011 08:39 AM (2NNz2)

70 So when is the nation going to realize that throwing money at teacher's unions doesn't do shit for "education". DC spends more money per student and the ghettos in the suburbs make fun of the dc grads for being stupid. One of their favorite insults to a ref is "you ignorant--you go to dc schools?"

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:39 AM (UwFY0)

71 More trains = more hobos

Eh? Eh?

Posted by: Jugears McF*ckstick at January 26, 2011 08:40 AM (GwPRU)

72 WOW! JUST WOW!

Axelrod mocks Tea Party response: 'Am I looking at the right camera?'
This is all they have?! Michele should come out today with a greasy comb-over!

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 08:40 AM (penCf)

73 Just creating political cover for when he vetoes popular bills generated by the GOP landslide...
"Hey, I had to veto it because there were earmarks in it (inserted via conference by the Democratic leadership of the Senate, but still.....). I would have signed that repeal of Obamacare if it weren't for those horrible earmarks......."

Posted by: JohnTant at January 26, 2011 08:40 AM (eytER)

74 i hope it's a solar powered train....or an electric train!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:41 AM (eOXTH)

75 And the high speed trains will go from where to where? Ny to Boston? DC to NY? San Francisco to LA? Chicago to whereever the hell those people go?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:41 AM (UwFY0)

76 dagny...they are talking about arizona to......wait for it........LAS VEGAS!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:42 AM (eOXTH)

77 How about hydro trains? They could heat the water up until it's really hot and then the pressure of the hot water vapor could make the pistons on the train move. They could use clean coal for the heating. Brillant, huh?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:43 AM (UwFY0)

78 .....does this mean no one is ever going to work on flying cars?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:43 AM (eOXTH)

79 Been thinking a lot about that speech. Remember last year when there was a carnival atmosphere and one side kept jumping up like a bunch of rabbits and the other side stoically sat. It felt like there was way less jumping up and the applause was tepid. Polite applause because you have to applaud, not necessarily cause you want to. And there was less of the camera panning the audience cause everyone had on the "constipated look" and there was less of showing MO.

If he does keep this promise then it would appear that government will be t a standstill, unless, unless his definition of earmark will mean only earmarks the republicans add but not the earmarks the dems add or something like that. Unless he changes the definition of earmark.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 08:43 AM (p302b)

80 76 Because the traffic is really bad across the desert???

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:44 AM (UwFY0)

81 Actually, this promise is quite similar to McCain's promise during the 2008 campaign:

The first big-spending, pork-barrel earmark bill that comes across my
desk, I will veto it. I will make them famous and you will know their
names.

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 08:44 AM (penCf)

82 Did anyone notice who on the Scotus was there?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:45 AM (UwFY0)

83 77. Dagny I thought that was funny

damn I need a laugh another GODDAM snow day over here arrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 26, 2011 08:46 AM (SB0V2)

84 i think it's because it's really boring.....if only they could harness the vitriolic rhetoric and use it's energy....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:46 AM (eOXTH)

85 I think the prom date thing really backfired on them. McCain and Kerry together was ............disturbing.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:47 AM (UwFY0)

86 84. like someone just said, if only you could use bullsh*t for money, BarryO would have just solved the deficit

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 26, 2011 08:47 AM (SB0V2)

87 Our economy is being held hostage because of a lack of high-speed rail.

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 08:47 AM (MMC8r)

88 O/T: via twitter: "Tunisia
wants to try Ben Ali, wife and family for property theft and
transferring foreign currency - justice minister via Reuters"

Can someone listen to the 4th hour of Batchelor when you have a chance, from last night. He said a lot of fascinating stuff about the middle east, israel and palastine in particular. I don't know enough about this situation to adequately explain what was said. But I went to bed with heartburn and couldn't sleep so what was said was not calming.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 08:48 AM (p302b)

89 Barry can be run out of town on a (high-speed) rail.

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 08:48 AM (MMC8r)

90 Of course he'll use the veto pen..

Any bill that's passed will be a bipartisan bill be default..

The little leftist can't have that.

Posted by: Dave C at January 26, 2011 08:48 AM (kjG5B)

91 BlackOrchid,You must be near me, we have the same snow schedule. High school kid is home because they follow fairfax county. Elem school kid at school but imagine will come home early because he's alexandria.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:49 AM (UwFY0)

92 If you have ever hit a ginormous jackrabbit while driving at high speed thru the desert, you'd think twice about high speed rail. Some of those suckers could literally derail a train.

That's why I drive with a .357Magnum in my lap.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2011 08:49 AM (GwPRU)

93 also, at the behest of a friend I put on he "coast to coast" show as one of his favorite bloggers was on in the first hour. It was one of the best discussions, honest discussion of the economy that I've ever heard and it really showed both sides of the issue and regular folks called up and seemed well educated on the subject. I wonder if he has podcasts that you can listen to

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 08:50 AM (p302b)

94 unless the high speed train could get me across country faster than an airplane.....what's the point?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:50 AM (eOXTH)

95 Dagny I'm in West Chester. Was an unholy mess this morning!

Glad they closed them - otherwise I'd be going out to get them anyway - I hate early dismissal since my kids are at different schools.

Speaking of which, that little bipartisan party last night was as awkward as a Malvern Prep/Villa Gorilla mixer!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 26, 2011 08:51 AM (SB0V2)

96 All SCOTUS present but for Alito, Scalia and Thomas. IOW, same as last year, but for Alito.

Stephen Breyer seen smooching up to Barky just after speech.

Posted by: Professor Irwin Corey, Director of Agit-Prop at January 26, 2011 08:51 AM (BZEkR)

97 Holy shit.

A real journalist's article. This is the most non-opinion article about anything I have read in years.

Added bonus: vid of
Obama: Leadership Now 'Shared Responsibility'

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 08:51 AM (penCf)

98 curious......i heard that too......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 08:51 AM (eOXTH)

99 After his bandwagon was demolished in November, Barky decided he's supposed to be at the front of the parade. Only problem is he forgot to take off the clown makeup.

Posted by: dogfish at January 26, 2011 08:52 AM (N2yhW)

100 Our economy is being held hostage because of a lack of high-speed rail by fish
FIFY

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 08:53 AM (AnTyA)

101 So Roberts and Kennedy went to the speech along with the libtards. Alito, Scalia, Thomas, no. Scalia and Thomas don't normally go and Alito smartened up.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:53 AM (UwFY0)

102 73
"Hey, I had to veto it because there were earmarks in it (inserted via
conference by the Democratic leadership of the Senate, but still.....).
I would have signed......."

that.

Posted by: 13times at January 26, 2011 08:53 AM (h6XiD)

103 47 So now what should we talk about? Trains? Well, that or salmon.

Maybe salmon on trains?

Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 08:54 AM (4df7R)

104 103 47 How about Pigford?
PIGFORD, PIGFORD, PIGFORD, PIGFORD . . .

Posted by: Scoob at January 26, 2011 08:55 AM (T7+JL)

105 Oh please. Obama promised transparency and the posting of legislation on-line prior to any signature.
That hasn't happened once.
obama is a walking talking promise breaker.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 26, 2011 08:56 AM (0fzsA)

106 "get me nan and harry on the phone, this repeal of obamacare has no earmarks in it, they need to fix it so I can veto it and have just cause"

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 08:56 AM (p302b)

107 Paul Ryan did fine. I didn't realize that he had that much of a midwestern accent though.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:56 AM (UwFY0)

108 So now what should we talk about? Trains?
Barack the Tank Engine?
Fitting, in an economic sort of way.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 08:56 AM (XdlcF)

109 And the high speed trains will go from where to where? Ny to Boston? DC to NY? San Francisco to LA? Chicago to whereever the hell those people go?
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:41 AM (UwFY0)
Dagny! You, of all people, should be able to appreciate trains.
(I mean, the Taggart blood runs within your veins...)

Posted by: Warthog at January 26, 2011 08:57 AM (WDySP)

110

82
Did anyone notice who on the Scotus was there?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:45 AM (UwFY0)
All except Alito, Scalia and Thomas.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 26, 2011 08:57 AM (7+pP9)

111 Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:43 AM (UwFY0)
Well done, Dag...well done (clap)

Posted by: beedubya, girlishly emotional at January 26, 2011 08:57 AM (AnTyA)

112 If we use my idea for hydro trains, we could steam the salmon.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 08:57 AM (UwFY0)

113 That's why I drive with a .357Magnum in my lap.


Makes sense if you're heading to Reno.

Posted by: Johnny Cash at January 26, 2011 08:58 AM (pNQJY)

114 The most offensive statement from his speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 26, 2011 08:58 AM (0fzsA)

115 I read a very rude comment last night on a lib/dem site about Ruthie and sleeping through the speech. This is an accomplished woman, and it appears she is on their side, and yet the comment was cruel and disrespectful.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 08:59 AM (p302b)

116 Is this another promise with an expiration date?

Obama answered that question from the onset with "words, just words."

Posted by: by any other name at January 26, 2011 08:59 AM (H+LJc)

117 I'm tired of these mothofukin' salmon on this mothofukin' train!

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at January 26, 2011 08:59 AM (WDySP)

118 Yeh, Lemon K., I was just reading that.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 08:59 AM (XdlcF)

119 PIGFORD, PIGFORD, PIGFORD, PIGFORD, . . .

Posted by: Scoob at January 26, 2011 09:00 AM (T7+JL)

120 Is this another promise with an expiration date?
Yes. It was at the end of the sentence.

Posted by: harleycowboy at January 26, 2011 09:00 AM (wSTfB)

121 Good for Alito, Thomas and Scalia. Why should they be props for that POS.

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2011 09:00 AM (w7Lv+)

122 PIGFORD was here . . .

Posted by: Scoob at January 26, 2011 09:01 AM (T7+JL)

123 Last night I posted that the whole speech just felt weird. the whole atmosphere. I couldn't sleep. There's always a method to the madness, they never let an opportunity go to waste, this speech was a set up for something.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:01 AM (p302b)

124 So now what should we talk about? Trains?

How about "Live at the Apollo Program, it's Sputnix Redux!"

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2011 09:01 AM (GwPRU)

125 I avoided the computer and tv last night, so I didn't get the salmon joke.
I just looked it up and I'm still failing to see the funny part.
"The Interior Dept. is in charge of salmon while they're in fresh water, but the Commerce Department handles them when they're in saltwater," he quipped. "And I hear it gets even more complicated once they're smoked."Ba-dum-BUM.The one-liner got a rousing laugh from the audience and gave online armchair commentators at home fodder for the remainder of the night.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 09:02 AM (XdlcF)

126 OH SNAP!



Reid is NOT HAPPY with BO:



Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, Reid said that the plan is "a
lot of pretty talk" and would cede too much power to the executive
branch.It would give "the president more power, and he's got enough power already," he said.

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:02 AM (penCf)

127 Dagny! You, of all people, should be able to appreciate trains.
I actually thought about that when he was talking. If you remember the govt regulations got in the way of the materials and fuel needed for the trains and they f--ed up the bridges. The govt also insisted that certain freight go to areas with political pull. So, following that theory, high speed trains would accomodate areas where democrats wanted to reward developers, constituances, politicians, donors. Already the discussion centers around rewarding Harry Reid and the large LV Seiu contingency although the desert is the LAST place you need a high speed train.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:03 AM (UwFY0)

128 honestly....i think we should figure out a way to make hawaii part of the "contiguous" United States.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 09:04 AM (eOXTH)

129 honestly....i think we should figure out a way to make hawaii part of the "contiguous" United States.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 26, 2011 09:04 AM (eOXTH)
Yeah, we need a train to Hawaii.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 09:05 AM (M9Ie6)

130 Hey salmon...I gave to Obama '08..

Posted by: Delta Smelt at January 26, 2011 09:06 AM (AnTyA)

131 HERE"s an interactive video of BO's speech last night.

Just click on section you want to hear. Be sure to check out his 'Sputnik' comment. Oy.

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:07 AM (penCf)

132 "Is this another promise with an expiration date?"

It all depends on whose pud is being pulled.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at January 26, 2011 09:07 AM (Pmc9i)

133 Wouldn't high speed rail require the construction and installation of rail lines? And wouldn't such construction inevitably require crossing protected lands that have been deemed off limits by the EPA? So wouldn't building high speed rail require either "damaging" these ecosystems/biospheres/habitats/monkey-shit-throwing-pits/whatever, or else going way the hell out of the way to avoid them, thus making high speed rail a fucking waste of time?
Sorry, I meant even MORE of a fucking waste of time?

Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 09:08 AM (4df7R)

134 I want to know what Wicket thinks about high speed rail. Would it have helped the Ewoks fend off the Empire? What's his opinion on salmon regulation, particularly in regards to how it affects high speed train construction? And where does he stand on free wi-fi?

Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 09:10 AM (4df7R)

135 If the Republicans don't make a ton of "read my lips" commercials in 2012 I'm going to go on a punching rampages, and by punching i mean drinking.
Obama has made so many public promises only to never keep them. This needs to be campaign fodder

Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 09:12 AM (wuv1c)

136 I actually thought about that when he was talking. If you remember the govt regulations got in the way of the materials and fuel needed for the trains and they f--ed up the bridges. The govt also insisted that certain freight go to areas with political pull. So, following that theory, high speed trains would accomodate areas where democrats wanted to reward developers, constituances, politicians, donors. Already the discussion centers around rewarding Harry Reid and the large LV Seiu contingency although the desert is the LAST place you need a high speed train.
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:03 AM (UwFY0)
So youare saying special interests: goverment and unions fucked up an industry that provided a needed service cheaply?
The mind boggles...
(What next? Coal, oil, corn?...)

Posted by: Warthog at January 26, 2011 09:12 AM (WDySP)

137 Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, Reid said that the plan is "a
lot of pretty talk" and would cede too much power to the executive
branch.It would give "the president more power, and he's got enough power already," he said.

He's just now coming to that conclusion?

Posted by: Dave C at January 26, 2011 09:12 AM (kjG5B)

138 Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 09:08 AM (4df7R)
Just think of all the cool curves it will have, be like a roller coaster!

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:12 AM (FIDMq)

139 133 If you go to Old Dominion University in Norfolk Virginia, the entire campus has an elevated PRT track running all through it. But whoops! It didn't work right, got too expensive, and doesn't do anything. WVU had a PRT which would be like the university version of the rail idea. It breaks down A LOT and apparently kills many beaver among other things. They have to run buses at the same time because the electric PRT can't handle the traffic and its stops are limited. They actually sometimes reward students for taking it because it's hard to get to, can be crowded and is not dependable and has weather issues.That system was paid for by the feds.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:13 AM (UwFY0)

140 Has anybody told Obama about NASA's latest achievement, called Rearden Metal? It would be perfect for high speed rails.

Just saying.

Posted by: Fritz at January 26, 2011 09:13 AM (GwPRU)

141 I thought they are supposed to be civil. Chrissy called michelle bachman a baloon head. That's not nice chrissy, you should apologize, we are supposed to not be vitriolic anymore.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:13 AM (p302b)

142 That's not nice chrissy, you should apologize, we are supposed to not be vitriolic anymore.
Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:13 AM (p302b)
Just another line of crap from the left, less than a week later, business as usual

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:16 AM (FIDMq)

143 Will he really veto bills with earmarks? No.

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2011 09:16 AM (OlN4e)

144 I mean if they want the train, fine, they can have the train between LA and LV where it makes sense. Then it will be out of their system. And look, didn't immigrants work on the rails, CA already has plenty of illegals to do the job, so it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:16 AM (p302b)

145 Rearden Metal was found by the EPA to have .000000003 lead in it. It's been outlawed in the fear that children might lick the high speed rail. Union mined iron and foreign steel is the only way to go.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:17 AM (UwFY0)

146 Romney is on Hannity tonight. Expect that he will offer his SOTU alternative. I mean, he is running, so...

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 26, 2011 09:19 AM (3/GGc)

147 Beck is playing dr. evil.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:20 AM (p302b)

148 144 I mean if they want the train, fine, they can have the train between LA and LV where it makes sense.
Question about that, who pays for it?or who would own and operate it? Feds? God help us.

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:21 AM (FIDMq)

149 What? That Rearend metal sounds intriguing.......

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 26, 2011 09:22 AM (OlN4e)

150 Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:21 AM (FIDMq)

well, look how successful Amtrak is (sarc)

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:24 AM (p302b)

151 Is this another promise with an expiration date?
If King Barry's involved, then aren't they all?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2011 09:24 AM (DrWcr)

152 WVU had a PRT which would be like the university version of the rail idea. It breaks down A LOT and apparently kills many beaver among other things.
WVU is spread out over 3 campuses, so it is pretty necessary there. Most of it is elevated so those beavers have to be committing suicide

Posted by: beedubya at January 26, 2011 09:24 AM (AnTyA)

153 Question about that, who pays for it?or who would own and operate it? Feds?
Sure. The Commerce clause gives them the authority to do any fukkin thing they want to. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2011 09:25 AM (OlN4e)

154 But will he make the high-speed trains run on time?

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 09:26 AM (MMC8r)

155 The feds just built a 6500 person building here with no parking and no metro. They said that the employees will be happy to take buses from the Pentagon which also doesn't have parking for them. They can take metro to the Pentagon but can't park at metro because if you get there past 5:30 there isn't any parking. So these people can walk to a bus line which will take them to metro then change trains to get to the Pentagon where they will wait for buses for their building. The govt will pay most of the fares. Convenient.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:28 AM (UwFY0)

156 If the Republicans don't make a ton of "read my lips" commercials in 2012 I'm going to go on a punching rampages, and by punching i mean drinking.
RNC: Hey! Hey! Listen up, people, dammit. There are voters out there making sensible statements about how we can paint an appropriate picture of Obama and the democratic party during the 2012 election. I thought we made it clear that this kind of thing was not to be tolerated? We are NOT going to run a truthful, blunt advertising campaign, dammit, and there is to be no argument. We're going to do what we've always done and we are going to LIKE it!

Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 09:29 AM (4df7R)

157 Well, we all know how his promise to post any bills on the internet for us to read worked out. *cough* Obamacare *cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 09:30 AM (UOM48)

158 Obama Regime Seeks to Have All Web Surfing Tracked…

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:30 AM (penCf)

159 152 The son says it sucks and takes forever. He's given it up in favor of the bus.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:30 AM (UwFY0)

160 rrd, good call on the movie quote of the day!

Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 09:31 AM (wuv1c)

161 the only place that would benefit from high speed rail is Las Vegas, a run from LA to Vegas. Then the kewl kids would have their "euopean type high speed rail" and they would just shut up already.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:32 AM (p302b)

162 They'll just go from earmarks to lettermarks/phonemarks/twitmarks/thugmarks - thereby giving unaccountable agencies more money and providing even less transparency to the public.

It's win-win for the imperial gubmint!

Posted by: BrendaK at January 26, 2011 09:32 AM (4bc0h)

163 I guess I got distracted last night--I forgot to watch the SOTU. I also forgot to pound myself in the ass with a jackhammer.

Posted by: Bugler at January 26, 2011 09:32 AM (VXBR1)

164 the speech was full of generalities. You guys found the only promise that the proofreaders missed.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:33 AM (p302b)

165 Yeah, that's something I noticed was missing from his speech. Where are the high speed rails going to be built?
There are already trains traveling between our major cities on the east cost. The most famous, and used, being Boston to New York to Philly to DC, but if I am not mistaken, they are all within 400-500 miles of each other.
cities aren't that close on the west coast

Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 09:34 AM (wuv1c)

166 Wasn't there a crappy song by the Thomson Twins called Lies way back in the 80's?

Oh and Lionel still makes an awesome train

Posted by: melvin at January 26, 2011 09:35 AM (3OCZw)

167
Sure. The Commerce clause gives them the authority to do any fukkin thing they want to. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: maddogg at January 26, 2011 09:25 AM (OlN4e)yeah, what he said.

Posted by: Supreme Court at January 26, 2011 09:37 AM (L+dBi)

168 165
Yeah, that's something I noticed was missing from his speech. Where are the high speed rails going to be built?
There are already trains traveling between our major cities on the east cost. The most famous, and used, being Boston to New York to Philly to DC, but if I am not mistaken, they are all within 400-500 miles of each other.
cities aren't that close on the west coast
Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 09:34 AM (wuv1c)
I think somebody said something like that last night, the reason Japan and some other countries can roll with high speed,due their small size.

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:37 AM (FIDMq)

169 I also forgot to pound myself in the ass with a jackhammer.

Posted by: Bugler at January 26, 2011 09:32 AM (VXBR1)

Don't worry, BO did it for you
I think somebody said something
like that last night, the reason Japan and some other countries can
roll with high speed,due their small size.

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:37 AM (FIDMq)
///RACIST////

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:40 AM (penCf)

170 It seems that we have two separate threads going for trains so I am moving this:

If we are truly interested in investing in trains then a couple of things need to be done.

1.
Most importantly, get the government totally out of trains. That means
no subsidies and no regulations, other than limited and very defined
safety regulations.

2. Next, get the unions out of the trains. This is what destroyed the trains to begin with.

After that, the train system will recover itself.

As for "investing" in rails, since the train companies own the rails, there should be zero public dollars going into that.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 09:40 AM (M9Ie6)

171 Sorry, I meant even MORE of a fucking waste of time?


Not to mention taking private lands for rails right of way.. Meaning forced relocation for countless of people and their homes.

Posted by: Dave C at January 26, 2011 09:43 AM (kjG5B)

172 I think somebody said something like that last night, the reason Japan and some other countries can roll with high speed,due their small size.
Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:37 AM (FIDMq)
Exactly. For heaven's sake, Japan is maybe the size of California (if that), and everyone lives packed into the coastal areas because the rest of the country is too steep, earthquakey, and otherwise inhospitable. High speed rail WORKS there because it doesn't have to criss-cross over three thousand miles from coast to coast. Same with every single European country except Russia. And indeed just about every single country in the world. IT WOULD NOT WORK HERE. FTW.
Here's a question. If we get high speed rail, does that mean I'd still have to get molested by TSA workers if I wanted to travel from Boston to Seattle?

Posted by: MWR at January 26, 2011 09:43 AM (4df7R)

173 I think somebody said something
like that last night, the reason Japan and some other countries can
roll with high speed,due their small size.

Actually it is because:

1. They have fewer cars, so rail crossings at roads are not as big a problem and they have higher demand.

2. Union and government interference has not led to economic collapse of the trains so they have maintained their rails. (Our rails will not support high speed)

3. Politics has forced trains to stop at nearly every podunk town located along the rail. Hard to build speed when you are stopping every 10 miles for half an hour each.

Posted by: Vic at January 26, 2011 09:44 AM (M9Ie6)

174 First Lady Asks Businesses to Allow Employees to Spend Part of Work Week Mentoring Youth

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:44 AM (penCf)

175 When Barry was elected he said there wouldn't be any lobbyists in his White House. Barry's promises are about as good as his pitching arm

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 26, 2011 09:45 AM (1Jaio)

176 Yesterday the Dems and MFM were busy saying that Paul Ryan is a dangerous radical who wants to end Social Security and Medicare.

So will Ace be posting that we must drop him because he's a dangerous radical? Because I certainly don't want to support anyone that the MFM can't give a thumbs up to.

Posted by: blaster at January 26, 2011 09:46 AM (aU7Ox)

177 Is this another promise with an expiration date?

This is a joke, yes?

Posted by: toby928™ at January 26, 2011 09:46 AM (S5YRY)

178 someone on CNN started to allude to this "the quiet man", they were going to give a laundry list of promises not kept and suddenly there was a commercial.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:46 AM (p302b)

179 174 Govt provided father?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:46 AM (UwFY0)

180 OMG, Ryan is a "dangerous radical" and Michelle Bachman is a "balloon head" and Sarah Palin is just plain scary to them. What will you guys do for spokespersons? Maybe run "spokesperson for the republicans, a new reality show with Ryan Seacrest"?

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:48 AM (p302b)

181 Is this another promise with an expiration date?
I'm not going to put any odds on it being kept. I might do an over/under when it gets broken - how about April 21st?

Posted by: AOSHQ Bookie at January 26, 2011 09:48 AM (OWjjx)

182 I'm baffled that the Purple guy would pick a paragraph out of last nights SOTU and then ask, "Will he do it".

The answer is this, there is no logical reason to even ask the damn question in the first place, we all know who Obama is and to trifle with stupid statements that come out of his mouth is just insulting.

Let me sum it up, Obama is headed to a fully socialized, big centralized government to which will spawn heavy taxation of the middle class on up, loss of freedom and liberties of everything from what we eat to the quality of health care that we receive.He is willing to do this without blinking an eye by stacking up gargantuan debt, held by our enemies that will result in a serious breach of our national security/identity.

Please, save the ridiculous questions that would have him appear to possibly be a more central political figure, everything we got now is staked on what the people do who were put in office last election and those who's deck chairs may need to be tossed over the side of the ship in the 2012 elections, both Republican and Democrat/Bolshevik.

Posted by: Drider at January 26, 2011 09:48 AM (HaJD9)

183 Personal catapults with a parachute/airbag landing system would be cooler than a frakking train.

Posted by: eman at January 26, 2011 09:49 AM (n0WLs)

184 look everyone. the trains HAVE to be high speed. there are lots of capitalists in this country to load into box cars. and they need to have wi-fi to run their business from there during the "transition time".

Posted by: A.G. at January 26, 2011 09:49 AM (oAVyq)

185 Senate closer to compromise on proposal to overhaul rules

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:50 AM (penCf)

186 123 Last night I posted that the whole speech just felt weird. the whole atmosphere. I couldn't sleep. There's always a method to the madness, they never let an opportunity go to waste, this speech was a set up for something.
Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:01 AM (p302b)
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I'd like to see if you wouldn't mind expanding on this as I kind of felt the same way after reading it. Esp. in light of the fact that he plans to deliver a speech on guncontrol in the near future (per Matthews and Plouffe) What I mean is this:
This was Obama's chance to knock one out of the park (ala BJC in '95) but it was by any objective measure a relatively weak speech in terms of content. Can't speak to the delivey as I didn't watch it but I read it and I thought that it was incredibly soft on details and heavy on lofty promises. Basically a speech that could have been delivered at any campaigh stop between now and Nov. 2012. So, given that this was Obama's first opportunity to reconnect with the Americanvoter afterthe spanking he took last year, why would he (and more importantly why would those around him allow him to) deliver suchand unimpressivespeech?



Posted by: volfan at January 26, 2011 09:50 AM (mhKJJ)

187 SEIU union official found dead in Oakland home

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:52 AM (penCf)

188 I thought the creepy part was his saying, "things have changed", "the world has changed", "we aren't on top in everything". It felt like the first warning.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:53 AM (UwFY0)

189 Va. Senator Seeks to Castrate Sex Offenders

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:53 AM (penCf)

190 187 SEIU union official found dead in Oakland home
Tea Party hit list?

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 09:54 AM (FIDMq)

191 So Drider at January 26, 2011 09:48 AM is down for a weak maybe?

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at January 26, 2011 09:55 AM (pNQJY)

192 Posted by: volfan at January 26, 2011 09:50 AM (mhKJJ)

For a woman, I'm worse with the remote than a guy. I was all over the lot last night and heard a lot of different stuff and I read a lot of comments on know dem/lib sites and I really felt I wasn't the only one. The one thing that stuck with me was the people saying that now that certain people around him are gone that he can go back to who he truly is/was in the pre election cycle. They actually said that he "wasn't happy with the way he had to behave in the last two years and they are thrilled to see the real him come back." I know statements like this give you insight into how the campaign will be run but it sitll worries you. He's the president, if the people around him are not doing things in our best interest and his best interest then all he had to do was fire them. Unless the media talking head meant nanny and harry? Not sure what they meant but I heard and read variations on the theme last night. And the real lefty libs were just pissed in general.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:56 AM (p302b)

193 I thought the creepy part was his saying, "things
have changed", "the world has changed", "we aren't on top in
everything". It felt like the first warning.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:53 AM (UwFY0)

I actually fell to my knees and prayed after I read the speech. What he didn't say, frightened me.

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:56 AM (penCf)

194 I have an Obama hangover. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 09:56 AM (UOM48)

195 I think I just figured it out! He really didn't talk about national defense (homeland). He talked of Middle East, but he never told us 'You are safe.'

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 09:57 AM (penCf)

196 He will pass plenty of bills with earmarks. They will just be called something other than "earmarks." It's how liberals work: change the word and you've solved the problem.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2011 09:58 AM (081kp)

197 Orca has Moochelle, Bob Woodward, and Tom Brokaw on her show tomorrow to discuss.......military families.

The hell? Who made any of these idiots experts on what military families go through?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 09:58 AM (UOM48)

198 Bo needs to spend time with a real American family. One where mom has two jobs, dad has three jobs and they are juggling the kids and they are still having trouble making ends meet. A family where everyone is pitching in and the crock pot is an important tool.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:59 AM (p302b)

199 Solar Shingles -----------the govt helped some company "reinvent themselves" to provide solar shingles. If you install solar shingles you get govt money or a deduction. Many of these shingles were for projects paid for by the stimulus.
I don't want the US "reinvented" esp by a communist douchebag.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:59 AM (UwFY0)

200 "What's your question for Vice President Joe Biden? Yahoo!
is interviewing Vice President Joe Biden this week on the heels of
President Obama's State of the Union address. The President's speech
focused on innovation, jobs and the economy. We're giving you a chance
to ask some follow-up questions.

Post your questions below.
We'll pick the best ones and ask the Vice President on your behalf.
Check Yahoo.com later this week and see if we picked yours."

Cross-post. Saw this on Yahoo Answers, any suggestions?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 26, 2011 10:00 AM (zqzYV)

201 194 I have an Obama hangover. Ugh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 09:56 AM (UOM4
Personally, I have the beer obamas

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 10:00 AM (FIDMq)

202 Cross-post. Saw this on Yahoo Answers, any suggestions?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 26, 2011 10:00 AM (zqzYV)
Do you use a real comb?

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 10:01 AM (FIDMq)

203 ... (and more importantly why would those around him allow him to) deliver suchand unimpressivespeech?
Posted by: volfan at January 26, 2011 09:50 AM (mhKJJ)
I think the fault lies in your base premise: they know what they are doing. Any objective analysis of their actions over the past two years reveal naive blundering and ineptness. His staff is the same way if not worse; all of them are academics with no practical experience.
Why did he deliver such a bloated, ineffective speech? He's come to believe his own press releases. He's the one. The oceans receeded when he was inaugurated. He will win the future just by showing up.
(Sadly, the future is not what it used to be...)

Posted by: Warthog at January 26, 2011 10:01 AM (WDySP)

204 So, Mr. V.P., are those plugs attached to your brain?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 10:02 AM (UOM48)

205 Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:59 AM (UwFY0)
My family would love to go to solar on their roof. But my parents went to the home show and the cost was so prohibitive that they had to walk away. When I heard about those shingles I wondered if they work, what the maintenance is like, and their cost benefit ration. My dad said "BO has a job as a salesman when he finishes the presidency, like bill clinton" I wonder if everyone looks into and buys those shingles if BO and the US taxpayor will get a commission?

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 10:02 AM (p302b)

206 Post your questions below.
We'll pick the best ones and ask the Vice President on your behalf.
Check Yahoo.com later this week and see if we picked yours."Cross-post. Saw this on Yahoo Answers, any suggestions?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 26, 2011 10:00 AM (zqzYV)
Yeah, "How'd you get so effin' stupid, Joe?"

Posted by: Tami at January 26, 2011 10:02 AM (VuLos)

207 But what if the earmark is for a monorail?

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2011 10:03 AM (xkJak)

208 Hey, Joe. Did your momma drop you on your head when you were a baby?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 10:04 AM (UOM48)

209 I want to know how joe perfected the art of napping with his eyes open.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 10:04 AM (p302b)

210 SEIU union official found dead in Oakland home
Hey, cool, my high school is mentioned in an article linked at the bottom of that one! It's the one about the school police killing someone...uh, never mind...

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 10:05 AM (XdlcF)

211 205 The doctor across the street put them in several years ago. He said it was30 thousand dollars with all the hook ups etc. He will have paid for them in what they save himafter 20 years.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:06 AM (UwFY0)

212 Yeah, that's something I noticed was missing from his speech. Where are the high speed rails going to be built?
There are already trains traveling between our major cities on the east cost. The most famous, and used, being Boston to New York to Philly to DC, but if I am not mistaken, they are all within 400-500 miles of each other.
cities aren't that close on the west coast
Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 09:34 AM (wuv1c)
I think somebody said something like that last night, the reason Japan and some other countries can roll with high speed,due their small size.
not only that, we have suburbs. Most countries are urban with most of their population within the city limits.

Also, America, or regions of it are extremely mountainous. I wouldn't wanna be going through the rockies on rail at 300mph

Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 10:06 AM (wuv1c)

213 Question for the dumbest cocksucker ever to crawl out of Scranton: Can you provide anybody that will confirm your dumbass description of Lebanon's recent political history that you weren't called out on in the VP debates?

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 10:06 AM (olKiY)

214 211 205 The doctor across the street put them in several years ago. He said it was30 thousand dollars with all the hook ups etc. He will have paid for them in what they save himafter 20 years.
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:06 AM (UwFY0)
What is their lifespan?

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 10:09 AM (FIDMq)

215 Cross-post. Saw this on Yahoo Answers, any suggestions?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 26, 2011 10:00 AM (zqzYV)

Is that you on the You-Tube video singing 'The Villages' while drunk of your farking ass?

Posted by: momma at January 26, 2011 10:09 AM (penCf)

216 osted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 09:59 AM (UwFY0)My family would love to go to solar on their roof. But my parents went to the home show and the cost was so prohibitive that they had to walk away. When I heard about those shingles I wondered if they work, what the maintenance is like, and their cost benefit ration. My dad said "BO has a job as a salesman when he finishes the presidency, like bill clinton" I wonder if everyone looks into and buys those shingles if BO and the US taxpayor will get a commission?
It's a technology ahead of its time.
Aside from the up front costs, you have constant maintenance. You always have to clean the sun light collectors, and there are other costs associated with maintenance if things break, etc.
The technology just isn't there yet.
I think the best way to collect solar power is in space before it is filtered through our atmosphere, however don't yet have the technology to transfer that energy back down to earth after it is collected

Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 10:09 AM (wuv1c)

217 Sure. The Commerce clause gives them the authority to do any fukkin thing they want to. Didn't you get the memo?
Tell me about it. All I wanted to do was grown my own damn wheat, but oh no, can't do that! If Roosevelt were here right now, I'd eat his braaaaaains, the limo-riding, cigarette-holder-using, blue-nosed, meddling know-it-allcity slicker!

Posted by: Zombie Roscoe Filburn at January 26, 2011 10:12 AM (DrWcr)

218 But, if there is an emergency or crisis, well, then who can hold me to this promise!

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 10:13 AM (8nf3A)

219 I think the best way to collect solar power is in space before it is filtered through our atmosphere, however don't yet have the technology to transfer that energy back down to earth after it is collected
Duh, trains.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 10:14 AM (XdlcF)

220 Yes, if we put the solar energy on high speed space trains, we will have solved the problem of cheap energy

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 10:16 AM (8nf3A)

221
Prediction. The first bill with earmarks that appears will NOT be vetoed. (unless the obamacare repeal gets an earmark slipped in).

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 26, 2011 10:16 AM (sQWnH)

222 Anyone of you crazy, stupid birthersup for a great big, bloody raw chunk of red meat? (skip ahead to 1:30 in)
"Because SHUT UP!! is why???"

Posted by: beedubya, just an excitable boy at January 26, 2011 10:16 AM (AnTyA)

223 219
I think the best way to collect solar power is in space before it is filtered through our atmosphere, however don't yet have the technology to transfer that energy back down to earth after it is collected
Duh, trains.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 10:14 AM (XdlcF)
There may be a use for high speed rail yet! I don't think they've quite worked out the engineering challenges of vertically-oriented train tracks, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2011 10:16 AM (DrWcr)

224 Shit. Over at Daily Caller there's a pic of Al Franken and Marco Rubio as prom dates. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 26, 2011 10:17 AM (UOM48)

225 Posted by: Ben at January 26, 2011 10:06 AM (wuv1c)

I jsut read something about a satellite that NASA has in space that has a solar sail. And they thought the thing was done when they commanded the sail to open and it didn't but the community of amateur astronomers discovered that it finally deployed the sail and started working again.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 10:18 AM (p302b)

226 Got 5 or 10 bucks to spare?
Yeah baby. Spread the word.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 26, 2011 10:18 AM (0fzsA)

227 You can beam the power to earth as microwaves.It's been tested.Not sure about power loss and anything that flies through the beam will get cooked I'd think.

Posted by: steevy at January 26, 2011 10:19 AM (eOSNP)

228 223
NASA, befoe it turned into a Muslim prayer group was working on a space elevator--so you put the trains on the elevator--simple!

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 10:19 AM (8nf3A)

229 This is our "Skylab" moment.

Posted by: Frankenstein Government at January 26, 2011 10:19 AM (GOG1H)

230 High speed rail? Well, Europe has them, so the libtards want them too... cuz everyone knows the Europeans are so much more advanced than we are! (Meaning: EU Socialists have a lot more power...)

But rail makes no sense in the USA. We are too spread out.. urban sprawl has spread out cities with many people commuting in the periphery suburbs.. 15,20 even 50 miles each way. Mass transit makes no sense except where you have masses of people going from point to point. The aim of the libtards is to do away with cars, which makes no sense in this country.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2011 10:20 AM (f9c2L)

231 230 High speed rail? Well, Europe has them, so the libtards want them too... cuz everyone knows the Europeans are so much more advanced than we are! (Meaning: EU Socialists have a lot more power...)Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 26, 2011 10:20 AM (f9c2L)

Nail. Head. Hammer.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 26, 2011 10:22 AM (DrWcr)

232 The hipster president: he's going to veto earmarks and propose programs that are earmarks. Dude, so ironic.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 26, 2011 10:22 AM (5/yRG)

233 230 It makes perfect sense for the US, because currently the peasants can just get in their cars and go as they wish. Once I get the Internet kill switch and the TSA controls all travel in the US, you will be much more docile. Just wait for the right crisis.

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 10:22 AM (8nf3A)

234 Not to mention taking private lands for rails
right of way.. Meaning forced relocation for countless of people and
their homes.

Posted by: Dave C at January 26, 2011 09:43 AM (kjG5B)
Interstate Highway System? Try Interstate High Speed Rail System ...Rip up those old road beds, 'cause we won't need them with our new high speed trains. Every interstate highway becomes a train, right of way problems virtually disappear, and our union supporters have work for decades.Oh, and no more road trips. My base, you'd think they'd be thankin' me ...
Admit it, I am a genius.

Posted by: President for Life Obama at January 26, 2011 10:23 AM (7+pP9)

235 OMG, Ryan is a "dangerous radical" and Michelle Bachman is a "balloon head" and Sarah Palin is just plain scary to them. They are lucky C. Heston has passed.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2011 10:24 AM (G5WHn)

236 Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 09:56 AM (p302b)
----------------------------------------------------
Thanks - so what you're saying is that he's now free to be who he really is and do what he wants to do - I wonder what stopped him from being/doing that over the past 24 mos?
Personally, I think that he's such an ideologue and and so vested in the notion that he was "sent" to remake America, that he'll now go full speed ahead toward that end no matter who or what stands in his way. Strangely, it may be that those around him who've recently departed may have been the ones that reined him in (imagine that) and w/o those people, he's now untethered to pursue his vision of what America should be.
What gives me pause is this: I think people underestimate Obama's paradigm and his idea of what he feels his mission really is. For most other people in politics, if you lose you move on since fundamentally its just a job. For Obama, this is very personal and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to the mattresses (literally) to protect it. I don't think that he has any love for America in the way that we do. In fact, I strongly believe that he'drather lose in 2012 than to compromise on his core belief that America must be "destroyed" in order to be "saved". Of course, he'll try towedge his beliefs and plans into a miquetoast political sandwich so as not to alarm the general electorate - butI think that it's still full speed ahead for him.

Posted by: volfan at January 26, 2011 10:26 AM (mhKJJ)

237 214 10yrs, though the replacements should be 30% cheaper by then - so the rate at which you are digging the hole will slow. And that is a win for Gaia.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2011 10:28 AM (wgkZv)

238 however we don't yet have the technology to transfer that energy back down to earth after it is collectedHave you ever heard of extension cords? Duh!

Posted by: kelly bundy at January 26, 2011 10:28 AM (2rOwc)

239 volfan
you couldn't be more wrong. Once I finish, Michelle & I will be proud of my country for the second time in our lives.

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 10:29 AM (8nf3A)

240 Insomniac - vertically-oriented train tracks ; now if he had proposed a national effort to build a space elevator; I might be OK with that.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2011 10:31 AM (7Jipo)

241 Obama's speech was a big hit with the public last night, so naturally you fringe types here are scrambling to find something, ANYTHING to criticize and cling to. Even the owner this blog was scraping the bottom of the barrel, claiming most "real Americans" were asleep during the "deceptive" part of the speech, so they couldn't have known any better.

Amazing.

Posted by: Jason D. at January 26, 2011 10:35 AM (sqLKs)

242 240 Insomniac - vertically-oriented train tracks ; now if he had proposed a national effort to build a space elevator; I might be OK with that.
Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2011 10:31 AM (7Jipo)
aaand if he would have proposed something like that, everybody immediately thinks Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2011 10:37 AM (FIDMq)

243 So this salmon walks into a bar.....

Posted by: Shecky Obama at January 26, 2011 10:39 AM (AnTyA)

244 Posted by: volfan at January 26, 2011 10:26 AM (mhKJJ)

Essentially, what I've been passing along are things I've heard, seen and read after last night's speech and the fact that the speech was "weird" to me in many ways. I agree with you, that speech should have been the speech of all speeches and, believe me, he is cable of giving that speech and he didn't, he gave a sort of half hearted speech to a half hearted audience as though he were 5 and his mom said he had to get up there and say something to the other kindergartners who were in no mood to sit quietly and receive the speech.

I try not to formulate my opinions on these things immediately so as not to have the "emotional reaction"...so I'm going to stick with that and just say it felt really "weird" to me....

I would suggest that you listen to the podcast of John Batchelor's show, the fourth hour, when his guest was discussing Israel and to Coast to Coast, the first hour when he had his two guests really argue it out. I felt as though they would have come to blows had they been in the same room but the callers with the questions were amazingly well informed.

One of my friends keeps saying that she wants to know more about the people who surround him. she said this after we both heard the comment about people leaving and him getting back to himself. and that "theme" was not only said by that talking head on that channel, have seen it said in a lot of places.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 10:40 AM (p302b)

245 The country is in fatal debt. They are taking over the economy with their health care scam. We are still at war in two countries. There are islamist revolutions in Egypt. China is eating our lunch and insulting us at the same time. We can't produce enough vaccine quickly enough in the face of a pandemic.Unemployement is at 10+% or higher in reality. Our children can't do math and many of them don't have fathers.
And he talking about high speed trains?????????????
I can only assume that this is like throwing a milkbone over the fence to distract the big dog while you break into his house and steal all his owner's shit.

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:40 AM (UwFY0)

246 Posted by: Jason D. at January 26, 2011 10:35 AM (sqLKs)

MONORAIL!

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 10:40 AM (MMC8r)

247 aaand if he would have proposed something like that, everybody immediately thinks Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Next, we're racist for being against jobs for document-challenged Umpa Lumpas.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 26, 2011 10:40 AM (XdlcF)

248 MONORAIL!

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2011 10:42 AM (MMC8r)

249 241 True, the speech was a hit -- which is all the more reason to be concerned.
That's not scraping the bottom of the barrel; that's actually listening to what that speech layed out compared to the platitudes on the surface. The plan layed out in the speech was ridiculous at best, dangerous at worst.
But it worked, because obviously more than a few people fell in love with change, hope, and thrive-y-ness in spite of the reality they are living in.
Amazing.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 26, 2011 10:44 AM (5/yRG)

250 Yo Jason D.,
Does Obama's Ass taste the same this morning as it did last night ???

Posted by: George Jackson at January 26, 2011 10:44 AM (By4wu)

251 and the banksters are having a party in Davos.

Posted by: curious at January 26, 2011 10:44 AM (p302b)

252 This promise reminds me of a Peanuts cartoon where Lucy is leaning on Schroeder's piano while he plays and ignores her for one frame, two frames, three frames. In the fourth frame, she turns to him and says, "If you try to kiss me, I'll smack you."

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at January 26, 2011 10:45 AM (XrW0V)

253 It was a hit??? I've only heard it panned. Even the focus groups thought he was full of shit. What demographic thought it was great? The stoned?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:46 AM (UwFY0)

254 253 As per the media and some of the polls they are running, see Ace's post from early this a.m.
I honestly don't see how even the lobotomized could have gotten inspired by that speech, but ever open to the possibility that there are people who would (be inspired by this speech). I guess his ratings for the next week or so should tell the tale.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 26, 2011 10:50 AM (5/yRG)

255 I noticed that union guy's name listed as Berresford "Berry" Bingham. Isn't that how they list mob bosses, kind of how assassins have three names, like John Wilkes Booth?

Posted by: kurtilator at January 26, 2011 10:55 AM (juh4Z)

256 OK, my fav part of the speech was Bambi saying
1. Tax code is too complex, and Special Interests have written too many exemptions. soooo.
2. We'll take the Tax breakes we give to Big Evil Oil, as they are unfair, but then we will support Green energy, because those complext Tax breaks given to Special Interest groups are Investments!
3. Profit?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 26, 2011 10:58 AM (AdK6a)

257 Jason D's appearance from glory-hole duty shows that Axelrod's now drawing from the sub-Loughner pool of dimwits.

Speaking of idiots, where's master of subtraction erg?

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 26, 2011 10:59 AM (olKiY)

258 s☺mej☼e at January 26, 2011 09:55 AM

When I posted:

I'm baffled that the Purple guy would pick a paragraph out of last nights SOTU and then ask, "Will he do it".

The answer is this, there is no logical reason to even ask the damn question in the first place, we all know who Obama is and to trifle with stupid statements that come out of his mouth is just insulting.

Let me sum it up, Obama is headed to a fully socialized, big centralized government to which will spawn heavy taxation of the middle class on up, loss of freedom and liberties of everything from what we eat to the quality of health care that we receive.He is willing to do this without blinking an eye by stacking up gargantuan debt, held by our enemies that will result in a serious breach of our national security/identity.

Please, save the ridiculous questions that would have him appear to possibly be a more central political figure, everything we got now is staked on what the people do who were put in office last election and those who's deck chairs may need to be tossed over the side of the ship in the 2012 elections, both Republican and Democrat/Bolshevik.
------------------------------------------------------------


I suppose this appears to be kind of a slight to Purple Avenger.Maybe my tone was a smidge pointed but I meant it in the broadest possible way.Meaning that we will be bombarded on how this Bolshevik, Obama, will be moving to the center when nothing is further from the truth, his massive centralized government dream is still unfolding, it won't stop until he is bounced from office, the press, the news and the blogs will all be falling all over themselves in trying to paint the Bolshevik as something that he is not.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have had so much wind blown up my ass on this clown of a president about who he is, where he is going, that he is capable of moving to the center, that anymore of that hot air risks shooting me off into the stratosphere.

Posted by: Drider at January 26, 2011 11:01 AM (HaJD9)

259 MORONORAIL
FIFY

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 11:01 AM (8nf3A)

260 But rail makes no sense in the USA. We are too spread out.. urban
sprawl has spread out cities with many people commuting in the periphery
suburbs.. 15,20 even 50 miles each way. Mass transit makes no sense
except where you have masses of people going from point to point. The
aim of the libtards is to do away with cars, which makes no sense in
this country.

Not to mention that many jobs in the US are service related jobs.. Hell, just about every job I had in the past was..

Cable guy,
Security Technician,
Custom home theaters,
Construction, framing,..

All needing a working vehicle capable of carrying tools, ladders and other parts in order to do my job properly. Old job, I was in Michigan and for some reason, custom home theaters are the first to go when people start to tighten their budgets..

Posted by: Dave C at January 26, 2011 11:02 AM (kjG5B)

261 But government jobs don't require you to bring anything to work (and sometimes they don't require you to do anything at work or even be at work), thus high speed rail for the US is a good thing

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 11:04 AM (8nf3A)

262 Besides, GE builds the high speed rail techno;ogy, and SEIU workers run the trains

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 11:05 AM (8nf3A)

263 Jason D. only shows up when the shit has really hit the fan for the libtards. He is sort of the troll version of a troubleshooter.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at January 26, 2011 11:07 AM (/joDP)

264 And by the way, the 92% who liked the speech self-selected themselves to take an online poll, so let's not go buying into that bit of bullshit.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at January 26, 2011 11:08 AM (/joDP)

265 Yeah Balrog of Morgoth, that 92% poll must have gotten mixed up with Saddam Hussein's election poll results of 2001 because there is no possible way.Just more wind up the butt.

Posted by: Drider at January 26, 2011 11:13 AM (HaJD9)

266 No, once you Norm the Data, our Computer simulations say 92% is entirely plausible.

Posted by: East Anglia Math Dept. at January 26, 2011 11:23 AM (AdK6a)

267 What demographic thought it was great? The stoned?
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:46 AM (UwFY0)
We did!

Posted by: MFM at January 26, 2011 11:25 AM (FIDMq)

268 266
Yes, once you norm the data with respect to the desired results, it works out to 92% exactly!

Posted by: Barry O at January 26, 2011 11:36 AM (8nf3A)

269 Michele Bachmann's Tea Party movement SOTU response proves a very effective instance for having the formality of the Tea Party Congressional Caucus established.

Without being abrasive, she's a strong communicator with exemplary statesmanship.

Posted by: by any other name at January 26, 2011 11:38 AM (H+LJc)

270 Pollsters question if Obama successfully read from the TOTUS.

Answers saturated with registered Democrats respond, "yes".

Headline Breaking News: 90% of Americans BELIEVE Obama!


Posted by: by any other name at January 26, 2011 11:43 AM (H+LJc)

271
What demographic thought it was great? The stoned?
Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2011 10:46 AM (UwFY0) The demographic that wrote the speech in a collaborative manner.

Posted by: by any other name at January 26, 2011 11:44 AM (H+LJc)

272 DONT GET TOO EXCITED. HE SAID THE SAME THING ON THE HEALTHCARE REFORM BILL AND OTHER TIMES.

PUT A CAP N TRADE BILL ON HIS DESK WITH EARMARKS. SEE IF HE'LL SIGN IT.

MY GUESS: HE'LL DISLOCATE YOUR SHOULDER TRYING TO GRAB THE PEN OUT OF YOUR HAND TO SIGN THE DAMN THING.

Posted by: Gabe at January 26, 2011 11:54 AM (w74G6)

273 What???
Joe - The Emperor Has No Clothes - Wilson or a suitable compatriot didn't jump up at this line?
But then it wasn't really necessary.
That line wasn't a lie lie or even a joke joke.
All now know - even those who pretend otherwise - the POtuS is simply a tool for passing along whatever lying joke the TOTUS displays and is no longer even worthy of a laugh.
At this rate, there will be a piece in our time but that's all that will be left.

Posted by: Shwing N. Richard D'Turd at January 26, 2011 12:25 PM (Z/oEY)

274 The bankrupt government will save money by not paying bills.

Posted by: by any other name at January 26, 2011 01:15 PM (H+LJc)

275 " if a bill comes to my desk with earmarks inside, I will veto it..."


Keyword "inside"...as opposed to "Attached"...trust me, he'll have his press Secretary split that hair.

Posted by: g at January 26, 2011 02:17 PM (IHFo6)

276 Yes, I watch reruns of sixties sitcoms. http://tinyurl.com/4s9gbwc

Posted by: bin laden at January 26, 2011 03:21 PM (9Pzy7)

277 That's a stupid question, PA.

Think about it, "Will Obama honor his commitments?" Pfft, No!

It doesn't have an expiration date, it doesn't even have an inception date.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 26, 2011 03:31 PM (bxiXv)

278 So if the earmarks are the first or last page of the bill, instead of "inside" it, does that mean Obama can pass it?

Posted by: Sean P at January 26, 2011 03:46 PM (M3QBc)

279
LOL. You Repugs crack me up. My veto promise was only about bills with earmarks "that come to my desk". But if the bill comes to Obama in the smoking lounge, Air Force One, Camp David, or even that little office where Clinton diddled Monica with the cigar then the promise does not apply and he can sign away.

D'oh.

You guys are so gullible.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 26, 2011 05:53 PM (u+8qs)

280 " if a bill comes to my desk with earmarks inside, I will veto it..." Barack Obama

All depends on what the meaning of the word "comes" is

Posted by: Billy Blythe at January 26, 2011 05:57 PM (u+8qs)

281 Thank you for your sharing.

Posted by: jordans for sale at January 26, 2011 08:15 PM (Jeurv)

282 In the law of the courtroom, we have all these judge made rules to define certain out of court statements as "not hearsay."

You know, even though they sort of are.

I suspect that the democrats will be given the secret sauce for a way to have all the beaks, and webbed feat, feathers, and waddle of a duck called an "earmark" -- to have all the benefits in terms of bringing home the bacon -- but to be deniable as ear marks per se.

The most simple formulation will be that there will be nothing in the bill itself about the "Congresswoman Memorial Duck Pond and Existential Poetry Recital Complex" costing $1Billion, but that there will be a side letter between a congressional office and a apparatchik somewhere in the administration agreeing to direct spending as such as a condition of getting more than a $1 budget next year.

Posted by: Gonzo at January 27, 2011 10:30 AM (nTd0a)

283 What he really said was, "Fellow liberal democrats, make sure you camouflage the earmarks so they look like a part of the bill." I will believe it when I HEAR it.

Posted by: Smorgasbord at January 28, 2011 08:53 AM (1cUWd)






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