Salon's Joan Walsh Alters Another Obama Quote To Make It Congruent With The Narrative
The New York Times did this earlier, deleting Obama's line about whether incivil debate caused the Tucson shooting -- "It did not," Obama said, fairly directly, contradicting the New York Times' Narrative.But The Narrative is more important than a president's actual words, so the actual words had to be changed to reinforce The Narrative. It's always comical when a religion becomes more important than the god itself. There's a funny scene in Return of the Jedi where the Ewoks want to cook Threepio's friends in honor of his golden divinity, and Threepio keeps saying don't do that, but they ignore him, because the religion says the god gets a feast and it doesn't matter if the god says otherwise. What does he know? He's just a god, after all. What does he know of his own religion? So it is with Obama and the high priests of the Worshipful Media. The high priests have decided that their hero-god is a bit potty lately, and so they must correct his spaketh-ings so they become inerrantly perfect, as they should be, as the Sacred Scrolls prophecized. And now High Priestess of Advanced Dementia With Paranoid Complex Joan Walsh of Salon is pressed into the great duty of fixing her god's words so they agree with the prophecy. Here's what Obama actually said:
“At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do..."Emphasis added. Note that segment seems to be taking both right and left to task. Here's how Joan Walsh quotes him.
At a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to blame all that ails our world, it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we're talking with each other in a way that heals, and not in a way that wounds….She simply omits the patch about being eager to blame "those who think differently." And then she attempts to argue the speech was not, in fact, a rebuke of the left at all. She says:
Now conservatives are reporting that Obama's speech was meant to scold those on the left who have dared to discuss the fact that Giffords had confronted violence before her shooting: that someone dropped a gun at one of her town hall meetings, her office door was shattered after she voted for healthcare reform, and she herself told MSNBC that the cross-hairs imagery Sarah Palin used to target her might "have consequences." Obama was brilliantly fair in his remarks, and I've reproduced the relevant section above, so people can decide for themselves if he was in fact pointing fingers as he urged us not to point fingers.But you didn't, Joanie. You specifically omitted the part where he cautions your ilk against being so eager to blame all the ills of the world on "those who think differently." So how can your tiny handful of readers actually "decide for themselves"? DW pointed this out, and has written a letter of complaint to Salon. So far, no correction, no explanation. Further...
By altering the content of a quote, Joan has breached one of the highest ethical codes in journalism. I myself and other readers have called her on this in the readers thread repeated, but have not gotten an acknowledgment, an apology or even a correction. The mangled misquote still stands. Is this what Salon has become, Mr. Lauerman?So in the comments section, it's also been pointed out, and yet as of now, eight days since the breach, the error remains. Can't. Stop. The Narrative. Reality-based community or community-based reality? They're like the dead in Sixth Sense -- they only see what they want to see. So they don't know that they're... ghosts of a fallen age.
My linky is emboldened.
Posted by: s'moron at January 19, 2011 02:56 PM (UaxA0)
2 LOL, I just put this comment in the last thread:
If we had a real free press in this country the Democrat-Commie Party would cease to exist.
Posted by: Vic at January 19, 2011 02:57 PM (M9Ie6)
3 They should be red-faced over the bold lies.
Posted by: CUS at January 19, 2011 02:57 PM (wOGfT)
4 Too late in the day for so many words.
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 19, 2011 02:59 PM (SJ6/3)
5 Nice working of Ewoks into the story, Ace! And thanks for fixing the formatting.. it was giving me a headache!
As far as their narrative goes.. I think it's now official. It has become OK to alter or omit any quotes by these lefty rags as long as it suits their narrative. It's like all the adults have left and the only ones left writing the "news" i bunch of high schoolers with no editors!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 19, 2011 03:01 PM (f9c2L)
6 So Joan Walsh has the same quotation problems as Maureen Dumb has? How unexpected!
Don't worry, Ace - Joan will print a correction and bury it somewhere in one of the deepest corners of Salon.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 19, 2011 03:01 PM (9hSKh)
7 This shit is making go grayer than if both my daughters started dating.
How can anyone with a shred of decency be able to not only write but believe this?
(I know, rhetoric, rhetoric)
Posted by: Dave C at January 19, 2011 03:02 PM (MECVa)
8 You say it enough, you repeat the lie,
you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it
Posted by: Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) at January 19, 2011 03:02 PM (GtjEP)
9 His legacy: the Civil Discourse President. He's going to build a career out of words.
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2011 03:04 PM (FcR7P)
10 So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama.WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born. Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health. Abercrombie told theHonolulu Star Advertiserhe was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012. Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor. Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?" In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."
Posted by: Dave Freeman at January 19, 2011 03:05 PM (By4wu)
11 Truth is just a tool used to forge the revolution. If truth is not the proper tool for advancing the revolution, cast it aside and pick up falsity. It's the leftist creed.
Posted by: joncelli at January 19, 2011 03:06 PM (RD7QR)
12 Shocked, shocked, etc.
Posted by: your winnings, sir at January 19, 2011 03:07 PM (S5YRY)
13 Sigh. My lib sister loves Joan Walsh and Salon.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2011 03:08 PM (UOM48)
14 Sooooo Joan's a lying scrunt? Didn't see that one coming....
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 19, 2011 03:10 PM (olKiY)
15 My lib sister loves Joan Walsh and Salon.
Is that the unemployed one?
Posted by: your winnings, sir at January 19, 2011 03:10 PM (S5YRY)
16 Joan Walsh Unable to Name Leftwing Extremists
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 19, 2011 03:12 PM (9hSKh)
17 I don't know how all the dishonesty in the media ends.
All of the new polls now either wait 4 or days to release their demographics or they don't do it at all. The Ap/gfk poll that showed an 11 drop in those wanting Obama care repealed also showed a 12% drop in republicans polled. They waited 4 days to show that though, after the headline was out there.
Washington Post/ABC doesn't even bother releasing demographics anymore. They haven't for 2 months now after taking heat over their unfair dem bias. The new CNN poll out, no demos.
There is no honesty in the media and I don't know how we inform the public of that.
Posted by: robtr at January 19, 2011 03:13 PM (hVDig)
18 By the way, I forgot about this burst of civilized, toned-down rhetoric from Joan Walsh:
Hardball: Joan Walsh Calls Republican Critics of Obama 'Un-American' and 'Traitorous'
...The climate right now is that Republicans use everything they can to
undermine and delegitimize this president. And it‘s actually
un-American. It‘s traitorous, in my opinion. Do you want to give aid
and comfort to our enemies? Continue to treat this president like he
wasn‘t elected and he doesn‘t know what he‘s doing! He knows what he
did. He knows what he‘s doing. I‘m proud of him. I believe that he
has the stalwart, resolute nature to get this done.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 19, 2011 03:14 PM (9hSKh)
Yep. She's my only sibling. Still unemployed. It's Palin's fault.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2011 03:14 PM (UOM48)
20 at a time when we are far too eager to blame all that ails our world
That doesn't even make any sense whenObama's next passage is omitted.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:14 PM (B+qrE)
21 Can't Stop The Narrative.
Wasn't that a 70's movie staring the Village People and Steve Gutenberg?
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at January 19, 2011 03:15 PM (HpT9p)
22 Joan just needs to use her moral imagination more.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 19, 2011 03:15 PM (UOM48)
23 Who in the hell is Joan Walsh? Never heard of her.
Posted by: The Guy Who Shouts Who In The Hell is Joan Walsh Instead of En Fuego at January 19, 2011 03:17 PM (qPTz0)
24 That doesn't even make any sense whenObama's next passage is omitted.
Step 2 : ??????????????????
Posted by: garrett at January 19, 2011 03:17 PM (0Qwul)
25 Continue to treat this president like he wasn‘t elected and he doesn‘t know what he‘s doing!
A. False relationship. You can definitely accomplish one without the other. See: Jimmah, The.
B. Am I allowed to mention the other branches of government at this point? Or would a Constitution reference be a "distraction"?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:18 PM (B+qrE)
26 It's almost as if all these people got together and decided the theme would continue no matter what in order to support their beliefs. Like a "list" of some kind or something.
Posted by: Doc at January 19, 2011 03:18 PM (fbE18)
27 His legacy: the Civil Discourse President. He's going to build a career out of words.
Ask Lizzie II and her iPod: He actually believes that.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:20 PM (B+qrE)
28 What about Bush?
In his own words, this is from his specch on September 20, 2001:
" ... Iraq ... is ... a threat to ... the ... United States .... "
Was it? Was it really?
Posted by: WaterCow at January 19, 2011 03:21 PM (sWynj)
29 Joan Walsh is probably the most far left radical Socialist you will come across.
Posted by: Cherry π at January 19, 2011 03:21 PM (+sBB4)
This is why it is so important for the Republicans to not sit mixed with the Democrats at the STFU address.
We must stand apart from these people, not join with them in the destruction of the United States of America.
Posted by: Soothsayer3P0 at January 19, 2011 03:21 PM (uFokq)
31 Like a "list" of some kind or something.
Perhaps composed of reporters, commentators, pundits and writers.
They might even use a group email of some sort.
But that's just crazy talk.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:21 PM (B+qrE)
32 Funny, Joan Walsh doesn't sound like the name of the little asian lady that does my wife's nails at the salon.
Posted by: Penfold at January 19, 2011 03:21 PM (1PeEC)
33 I love this game though - Pin the Tail on the Uncivil Pundit
We can do this for weeks.
Posted by: Cherry π at January 19, 2011 03:22 PM (+sBB4)
34 Looks like I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.
Posted by: Andy at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (5Rurq)
35 28, not any more it's not. too bad we didn't finish the job in '91...
Posted by: The Guy Who Shouts Who In The Hell is Joan Walsh Instead of En Fuego at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (qPTz0)
36 "...Joan has breached one of the highest ethical codes in journalism."
That actually made me laugh. Who knew that "ethics" and "journalism" in the same sentence was still gold?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (swuwV)
37 I do love Joan Walsh's song "Life's Been Good" though.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (B+qrE)
38 34 Looks like I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.
Posted by: Andy at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (5Rurq)
Is there ever a GOOD week? [snff. SNFFFFFFFFFFFF.]
Posted by: joncelli at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (RD7QR)
39 What about trying aNew D-Day
For me, the media is a bigger long term concern then the Democrats are. The Democrats can be voted out as we saw recently. But the media can't. And its the media that give the Democrats their power. They elected Obama. The last 3 years the media has stopped even trying to be fair and they are getting worse. How much farther will they go?
I remember McCain saying you don't fight with those that buy ink by the barrell. Republicans all believe the media is bias. They simply are afraid the media will use their Alinsky tactics on them and destroy them. Politicians are about survival. They are afraid to be the first one.
So I have a plan. Call it M-Day. First, have the conservative movement and blogosphere convince the Republican establishment that this needs to end for the betterment of the Republican party and the country. Its in the best interest of even the Republican establishment. Convince the party to gather all the evidence on the subject of media propaganda. I personally could right a 100 page diatribe on the subject. Brent Bozell could write a 1000 page book. There could end up being 10,000 plus FACTS on the topic. Polls, studies, antidotal evidence, etc.
Then the Republican establishment leaders[Rove-Gillespie-Boehner, whoever the secret powers that be are] go to ALL the Republican presidential canidates about 5 months from now and convince them all to grow some cojones. And during the first debate, when the first person who gets a bias question, to have him hijack the question and go nuclear on the media. Not a "the media is a touch biased' comment. No, but instead "the media are a propagandist machine" rant. Then let loose with the facts that he has been given to him. Then when the next canidate is asked a seperate question, have him revert back to the last topic, media bias. And have him give more facts and have him talk about it in even more extreme terms. And again and again and again and again. So that they all do it all at once. There is strength and courage in numbers. Storm the beaches. Then after the debate have the Republicans and conservatives who will be on TV to talk about the debate ready to talk about what just happened with even more facts. These are the paratroopers. Then have lots of effective Repulicans to come in to talk on TV in the days after. The reinforcements.
Prepare it all in the days leading up to the debate. Even if the media heres rumors about this it doesn't matter, it will still work. It will be a cluster bomb of facts and truth. The truth shall set the Republicans free. Lets Alinsky the media. What can they say? Oh, that whiny Republican party? Even the Democrats will be put into a corner. Our ammunition on this topic is too great.
Would all Republicans say that the media is bias? My prediction is that if we can convince the leaders like Boehner and the Bushies and the Rombots that its good for them, I predict even the Maine Twins will be peer pressured into admitting the truth. Because its the truth for gods sake. And trust me establishment Republicans, you are next in line to be attacked by the media.
If done properly there would only be one casualty, the media. And if not taken up by the Republican establishment, then have the conservative movement do it on their own. Every conservative blog devote a day to it. Every conservative columnist. Have talk radio talk about it on the same day. Have every talking head conservative[what few there are] hijack TV conversations and talk about it. And hopefully have every conservative politician make a speach about it. ALL on the same day. It still might be enough to create a conversation by the media end the madness.
However, try to get the establishment on board first.
Posted by: Keven at January 19, 2011 03:24 PM (Nuk/O)
40 Perhaps composed of reporters, commentators, pundits and writers.
They might even use a group email of some sort.
But that's just crazy talk.
Oh, is the VRWC meeting at 7 or 8 tonight at the secret club? Or am I not supposed to mention that here?
Posted by: Doc at January 19, 2011 03:24 PM (fbE18)
41 That doesn't even make any sense whenObama's next passage is omitted.
To be fair, little of what Obama says makes sense, so the lack of sense in and of itself wouldn't really lead one to conclude it wasn't a direct Obama quote.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 19, 2011 03:25 PM (Gx9Qb)
I do love Joan Walsh's song "Life's Been Good" though.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:23 PM (B+qrE)
Wait, didn't she do "I Love Rock and Roll"?
Posted by: joncelli at January 19, 2011 03:25 PM (RD7QR)
43 The Big Lie? Of course I've heard of it.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 19, 2011 03:25 PM (swuwV)
44 Liberals will continue to do this because they live their lives knowing that there are NO consequences for their actions. She will continue to get paid to write the drivel that she writes and will NOT be forced to apologize or write a correction/contraction because that's not what libs do.
Posted by: Sponge at January 19, 2011 03:26 PM (CdX98)
45 Alan Grayson accusing Palin of cannibalism now. That's war! (oh sorry, pardon my tone)
Posted by: Cherry π at January 19, 2011 03:27 PM (+sBB4)
46 Oh, is the VRWC meeting at 7 or 8 tonight at the secret club? Or am I not supposed to mention that here?
Second rule of VRWC is "Never talk about VRWC."
First rule of VRWC is never get the ewok wet.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 19, 2011 03:27 PM (B+qrE)
47 This is from Joan Walsh's Wikipedia page:
"Walsh made her second appearance on The O'Reilly Factor in June 2009, discussing the murder of Dr. George Tiller and her views on the responsibility of journalists and the impact of their words in controversial matters."
I guess she's an expert. Maybe we should just defer to her and stuff.
Posted by: FireHorse at January 19, 2011 03:28 PM (sWynj)
48 First rule of VRWC is never get the ewok wet.
I thought it was don't feed him after midnight.
Posted by: your winnings, sir at January 19, 2011 03:30 PM (S5YRY)
49 So now if Obama doesn't act like a good little liberal the press is going to edit him so he goes on record as a good little liberal.
Posted by: Marie at January 19, 2011 03:31 PM (36LQe)
50 Revisionism has now been compressed down from years to mere days.
Often I see Ace, Ed Morrissey or other 'righties' make a mistake in fact. The difference is, as soon as it is brought to their attention they correct it, with notification. Glenn Beck has his infamous hotline that the WH can call to correct him on matters of fact.
Then you have the NY Slimes, Pissy Chrissie, and Salon to show how it isn't done.
In LiberalLand, you never have to say you are sorry.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 19, 2011 03:32 PM (h0RtZ)
51 Oh, is the VRWC meeting at 7 or 8 tonight at the secret club? Or am I not supposed to mention that here?
If you mention it, you bring the pudding.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2011 03:32 PM (XdlcF)
52 First rule of VRWC is never get the ewok wet.
I thought it was don't feed him after midnight.
They're related ...
Posted by: Adriane at January 19, 2011 03:32 PM (dIik4)
53 If you mention it, you bring the pudding.
But no dipping first!!
Posted by: Penfold at January 19, 2011 03:33 PM (1PeEC)
54 "...ghosts of a fallen age." Ace is sounding almost Hemingway-esque. Nice.
Posted by: nikkolai at January 19, 2011 03:33 PM (JeGQJ)
55 Oh, is the VRWC meeting at 7 or 8 tonight at the secret club? Or am I not supposed to mention that here?
The first rule of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is that we don't talk about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
Posted by: Marie at January 19, 2011 03:33 PM (36LQe)
56 I will admit Joan Walsh looked pretty good in Beverly Hills 90210, even with the offset eye thing.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 19, 2011 03:34 PM (Gx9Qb)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
The Gonzo Debate.
I've been thinking along similar lines but yours is stated best. I was thinking the "Right" media needed to name names over and over and ask the public, as directly as possible, "Is this really the freedom of the press that you want?" Make it policy that there will not be collegiality among peers anymore... that violators will be exposed and will be attacked. In the past I knew this couldn't happen but I held a sliver of hope that it could. Surely this is a naive position.
You have a much better plan that won't put trust in the hands of the, perhaps, least trustworthy.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 19, 2011 03:35 PM (swuwV)
58 Oh, is the VRWC meeting at 7 or 8 tonight at the secret club? Or am I not supposed to mention that here?
Posted by: t-bird at January 19, 2011 03:36 PM (FcR7P)
59 Isn't Joan Walsh the one that had a kid kidnapped and started Americas Most Wanted?
Posted by: Sponge at January 19, 2011 03:37 PM (CdX98)
60 I thought schisms only occured after the death of a messiah, not two years into the rapture? What's with dat? Yo yo yo - fosnizzle.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 19, 2011 03:37 PM (Q5+Og)
61 Wait, didn't she do "I Love Rock and Roll"?
No. That was Joe Jett.
Posted by: CUS at January 19, 2011 03:37 PM (wOGfT)
62 The only thing nuttier than Salon is Andrew Sullivan's breath.
Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2011 03:38 PM (GwPRU)
63 62 The only thing nuttier than Salon is Andrew Sullivan's breath.
Posted by: Fritz at January 19, 2011 03:38 PM (GwPRU)
The veal. Mention the veal!
Posted by: joncelli at January 19, 2011 03:40 PM (RD7QR)
64 Wait, didn't she do "I Love Rock and Roll"?No. That was Joe Jett.
Joan Jett, and as we learned from a recent ONT, Joan Jett covered it from someone else.
Posted by: Ben at January 19, 2011 03:41 PM (wuv1c)
65 The VRWC does not exist and if you say that it does, maybe Dick Cheney will have to send some of his friends over to have a little chat with you. I hope you've got a good dental plan.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 19, 2011 03:41 PM (xxgag)
66 First rule of VRWC is never get the ewok wet.
It was supposed to be "don't tell the ewok about the meeting" but oh well.
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 19, 2011 03:41 PM (XdlcF)
67 The hell with the veal. What about us?
Posted by: your waitress at January 19, 2011 03:41 PM (S5YRY)
68 So, Joan, it's un-American to treat the president like he wasn't elected and doesn't know what he's doing?
Do I have to baby-powder my pimp hand first, or are you ready for your history lesson?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 19, 2011 03:44 PM (bpP/w)
69 "First rule of VRWC is never get the ewok wet."
I was told the first rule of VRWC is there is no VRWC. What happens in VRWC stays in the VRWC.
Posted by: Tigtog at January 19, 2011 03:45 PM (Q5+Og)
70 O/T: would love your opinion of the "press conference" and the "technical difficulties that prevented hu from answering that very important human rights question.
It's fascinating to watch two of the worlds pre eminent spin meisters try to communicate with the barrier of language. they couldn't borrow a translator from the UN or one of the local universities? They couldn't, in a newly renovated White House get the tech right?
Posted by: curious at January 19, 2011 03:46 PM (p302b)
71 The only thing nuttier than Salon is Andrew Sullivan's breath.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 19, 2011 03:46 PM (z4es9)
72 The hell with the veal. What about us?
Posted by: your waitress
Dodd and I have something special planned for you.
Posted by: Zombie Fat Drunkard Faux-Aristocrat from MA at January 19, 2011 03:46 PM (Gx9Qb)
73 Posted by: Ben at January 19, 2011 03:41 PM (wuv1c)
I'm guessing you didn't get the joke... please tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 19, 2011 03:48 PM (8y9MW)
74 Ask Lizzie II and her iPod: He actually believes that.
That's "Grand Mistress E", dawg. No "Lizzie II".
Posted by: grand mistress e at January 19, 2011 03:48 PM (2rOwc)
75 they couldn't borrow a translator from the UN or one of the local universities?
Shit, Chinatown is a couple metro stations over, they could have just grabbed some guy off the street and stuck him in a suit.
Posted by: joncelli at January 19, 2011 03:50 PM (RD7QR)
76 Joan Jett covered it from someone else.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 19, 2011 03:50 PM (2rOwc)
77 at a time
when we are far too eager to blame all that ails our world,
The phrase, as written, doesn't even make any sense. It's incomplete. Don't they have editors (or literate folks of any sort) over at Salon?
That said, Walsh's incoherent ramblings are worth about the same as the Indonesian's. I don't know why you insist on thinking that a pathological liar's words are worth anything at all, whether you agree with him or not. I just don't understand what drives people to do this.
Nothing Obama says is of any value. He lies. That's all he does. Every once in a while, he lies in a way that you like. Good. Enjoy it privately, but don't try to make some public argument about "the pathological liar said xxxxx".
And, aside from the lying, Obama is a stone cold idiot. Citing a liar is bad enough, but citing a retard is just too, too much.
I still can't believe that anyone takes anything Obama says seriously. He is stupid. Really, really stupid.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 19, 2011 03:52 PM (G/MYk)
78 Hey, everyone, Mr Hu Goes To Washington!
Posted by: andycanuck at January 19, 2011 03:54 PM (2rOwc)
79 That's why I call her Joanie Baloney.
Posted by: Dan Collins at January 19, 2011 03:58 PM (LctE2)
80 The media, for the most part, tells us what they want us to hear. No more, no less.
Posted by: tsj017 at January 19, 2011 04:02 PM (4YUWF)
81 Because liberals lie about everything.
I never run out of examples of that.
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 19, 2011 04:03 PM (bxiXv)
82 After the 2nd atomic bomb, Hirohito knew he needed to surrender. However, his officers, his supposed minions, knew that he was the victim of bad advisors, and tried to stop the surrender by killing those involved. You might ask, what kind of a God can be swayed by bad advisors? Shut up, that's why.
Posted by: pep at January 19, 2011 04:12 PM (GMG6W)
83 Everyone knows that people hear what they want to hear. Obama kows it, too. It didn't matter what he actually said. I firmly believe that he knew the moonbats would hear, in his speech, that he was speaking only to the right about toning down the rhetoric.
They took it, and interpreted his words exactly how he meant them. You don't truly believe that he meant for the left to tone it down, do you? Exactly how would that accomplish his campaign goals?
Posted by: Steph at January 19, 2011 04:14 PM (KqBTY)
Some good thoughts there. I share your concern about the media and have long felt the Republicans and/or conservatives need a Media Manhattan Project that gives this problem the attention it deserves.
I'm still not sure how to make this happen without it ending up being twisted so as to make the Republicans seem either "whiny" or "trying to suppress the freedom of the press", or something along those lines.
But for sure, it needs way more focused attention than it gets. I know Rush says, "That's just the media, that's the way it is and always has been and always will be, get over it." But that doesn't cut it anymore. Not with the media so openly partisan and hypocritical at this stage.
A friend of mine had a good point when he said that if not for the media bias, liberalism would be a fringe political philosophy with about the same clout as the Libertarians have.
Posted by: RM at January 19, 2011 04:24 PM (GkYyh)
85 Has there been a post that begged more for an Ewok picture:
Hey, Joan. Let's eat.
Posted by: Bus speed bump at January 19, 2011 04:28 PM (YYaIP)
86 "I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views."
"I have a gift."
Posted by: B. Obama at January 19, 2011 04:32 PM (l+7Af)
87 The two keys are the facts are totally on our side and all the info and all the entireparty must be pushed at the exact same time.
If all the facts are compiled[and there is much more then any of us even comprehend] and given to every Republican in office and they had their staffers read the thousands of pages of evidence and their staffers presented what they read, it would blow even moderate Republican minds. Especially in just the last 3 years of bias. So I guess this would be the Manhatten Project part of the plan. It would take very little money and a small staff to compile the information.
I think the biggest problem is getting the "establishment" on board however. I think many of them like having conservatism attacked by the media. However, they need to remember that they are next. Bush left office with a 30% approval rating. And he was for expansion of medicare[presrciption drugs-immigration reform with some amnesty-and a Ted Kennedy approved education reform]. Even if a moderate republican like Bush somehow won in the future, do they think that person won't be raked over in the same form and fashion?
The media is becoming dramatically worse. MSNBC and Newsweek seem almost upfront about how bias they are. Even supposed conservatives are selling out Republicans. I could give the list but you all know their names. But the bigger problem is that the bias is EVERYWHERE. Morning, noon and night. Newspapers, magazines, ALL TV, movies, etc. Its the subtle bias from popular people on TV that is the most damaging. Something must be done.
The media and Dems must be overwhelmed with the pushback. And overwhelming it can easily be. Its just a question of desire and organisation.
Posted by: Keven at January 19, 2011 05:00 PM (Nuk/O)
Thnk u so much
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Posted by: Ø¯Ø±Ø¯Ø´Ø© at January 19, 2011 05:03 PM (nxi+D)
89 Given what happened the last time I pontificated about What To Do About The Media (I still haven't got all the Ewok hair out), I'm not even going to try to suggest any ideas. Though I wonder if an investigation into media outlet collusion would get anywhere...
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at January 19, 2011 05:04 PM (GBXon)
Joan Walsh Unable to Name Leftwing Extremists
Interesting that nobody dared to mention any obvious names. They were like, "Shut UP! Moving right along!"
Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 19, 2011 05:25 PM (fuw6p)
91 Interesting that nobody dared to mention any obvious names.
It would have been awkward, considering how many of them have shows on their channel.
Posted by: For Great Justice at January 19, 2011 05:48 PM (S5YRY)
92 Damn those lefty journalists are accurate! They never miss a word!
Now that I have pulled my tongue out of my cheek, maybe I can shove a tent pole up her backside like Vlad the Impaler.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 19, 2011 05:54 PM (3ESDJ)
93 re: Pelosi calling Roll's tragic murder an accident as he just happened by coming out of mass:
Judge Roll, 63 years old, attended Ms. Giffords's event to thank her for
supporting his effort to get help handling his district's high number
of immigration cases. Judge Roll was appointed to the federal bench by
President George H.W. Bush in 1991, and had served as chief judge of the
District of Arizona since 2006.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 19, 2011 07:03 PM (H+LJc)
94 Ace concluded:
'They're like the dead in Sixth Sense -- they only see what they want to see. So they don't know that they're... ghosts of a fallen age.'
Precisely correct. Yet to know that is no comfort, and they are helpless to help themselves. As much as the Liberal Left is blind, lost, and vicious, we have to help them recover. They are powerless to help themselves.
This is similar to trying to save a drowning person who is panicking in open water- you have to be very careful how you attempt to save them. If you go to them directly, they will grab you and likely pull you down as well.
Best regards, Peter Warner.
Posted by: Peter Warner at January 19, 2011 10:01 PM (kjsue)
95 Once again a leftist lies. While it is important that we continue shining the light of truth into the dark corners they inhabit, their rancid behaviour really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point.
Some people ask themselves, what would Jesus do?
When it comes to predicting the actions of a leftist, it is useful to ask a somewhat different question:
What would satan do?
Posted by: Lee Reynolds at January 19, 2011 11:18 PM (/gY4D)
96 "They're like the dead in Sixth Sense -- they only see what they want to see. So they don't know that they're... ghosts of a fallen age"
Posted by: Percopius at January 20, 2011 09:39 AM (rrs4u)
97 An article refuting Walsh's take on Obama's "big bounce" http://yesbuthowever.com/nbcwsj-poll-showing-approval-5000502/
Posted by: Jim at January 20, 2011 06:33 PM (UajT2)
98 altın çilek - fx15 - leke kremi - yudali - maurers - ozon yağı
Posted by: peter at February 07, 2011 02:53 PM (va41F)
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