Blogger's Report: Sherrif Dupnik Pre-Emptively Blaming Sarah Palin Because He Knows True Blame Lay In His Office?

Hey, is this an unverified report, and am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation?

I learned that from the media.

This is the claim. We'll see if it's true.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County...

Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

If the basic factual predicate there is true, the motivation and actions alleged make sense -- if you've dropped the ball, badly, and that's led to six murders and multiple grave injuries, damnit, you'd better start soliciting political allies and dreaming up faraway scapegoats.

Corrected: I got confused from the multiple retractions of how many had died and wrote "two." Six were killed, more gravely wounded, and more than that wounded.


Posted by: Ace at 03:12 PM



Comments

1 Ace, I posted a link in the last thread where Dripdik admitted previous contact with Loughner over _death threats_.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 10, 2011 03:13 PM (Bn2v8)

2 Those vitriol-spouting talk show hosts made me be incompetent! Go get them!

Posted by: His Sheriffness at January 10, 2011 03:15 PM (RD7QR)

3 What, should we lock him up? Only a crazy person would follow thru on a death threat. Oh, shit...

Posted by: Sheriff Douche-nik at January 10, 2011 03:15 PM (FcR7P)

4 Hope it's so. Well, actually I really wish everyone had done their job. But beyond that, hope it's true.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 10, 2011 03:15 PM (bN5ZU)

5 Isn't it 6 dead?

Posted by: Long Time Lurker at January 10, 2011 03:16 PM (TiURi)

6 and that's led to two murders

MOre than that isn't it?

Posted by: some old geezer who walked uphill both ways in snow to school at January 10, 2011 03:16 PM (bqjJT)

7 This sheriff is an irresponsible piece of shit. The guy can't even wait until the bodies are cold before he starts shifting fire away from himself. He should be tossed out on his ass.

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 10, 2011 03:16 PM (/VjHB)

8 FOIA the Pima Co.Sheriff's office for the complaints. If the deputies did an investigation and assured the public, then there are records.

Posted by: EC at January 10, 2011 03:16 PM (mAhn3)

9 I blame Nietzsche.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (1m3DK)

10 The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature
and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to
Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change
that fact.

If true, this is a class case of negligent homicide. Heads should roll.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (9hSKh)

11 @5
You're right. Five died at the scene; one at the hospital.

RIP.

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (pW2o8)

12 That story sounds plausible so I'm going to assume it's true.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (2IDCB)

13
two words come to mind: fiduciary responsibilty

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (uFokq)

14 Another thing that doesn't seem quite right. If this guy was being managed by the State's mental health hospital, shouldn't he have been red flagged when he bought his pistol? Or did the family member who worked for Pima County intervene (horribly) and let Jared bypass that check?

Posted by: EC at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (mAhn3)

15 Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County.
This is the part that sticks out like a sore thumb. It starts with that relative who works for the county "losing" parking tickets and tax records but sooner or later someone pulls a stunt that the friendly insider can't cover up.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (F/4zf)

16 See if you can go over there and spread some Palin material around.

Posted by: Lefties channeling Dick Nexon and thereby draining the world's irony reserves to critical levels at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (B+qrE)

17 I wonder how Joe Nutball would have fared in Evil Sheriff Arpaio's Maricopa county. You know, where they enforce laws and all.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (FcR7P)

18 Deputy Dawg is a disgrace. As noted above, Dupnik admitted as early as Saturday night that he was aware of previous death threats Loughner had made but he immediately tried to turn all speculation on "right wing hate speech".

Typical lefty.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 03:20 PM (TMB3S)

19 13



>two words come to mind: fiduciary responsibilty


The 2 words I thought of were : Raging Fuckstick.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2011 03:20 PM (2IDCB)

20 Misspelling the sock name.
It's effing Monday.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:20 PM (B+qrE)

21
holy shit, even the 4th-tier community college instructors knew enough to get rid of the guy

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 03:20 PM (uFokq)

22 "decimate 14 more"
So there were 140 attendees total at this event??

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at January 10, 2011 03:21 PM (g9neE)

23 am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation?
I learned that from the media.

touche'

Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 03:21 PM (S5YRY)

24 Dupnik puts the oopid in stoopid.

Posted by: Chris Rock at January 10, 2011 03:22 PM (6qPsd)

25 15
Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County.
This
is the part that sticks out like a sore thumb. It starts with that
relative who works for the county "losing" parking tickets and tax
records but sooner or later someone pulls a stunt that the friendly
insider can't cover up.



Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (F/4zf)
Yep, I think someone is trying to CYA (THAT'S YOU SHERIFF), I wouldn't be surprised if there is a purging of records happening right now.

Posted by: Dummy at January 10, 2011 03:22 PM (LdYLm)

26 hmph, good stuff. The right needs to push back on this whole blood libel business.

I am concerned though that since rules don't apply to libs and are harshly applied against conservatives, that any retaliatory slander/libel/arguments/speculation/statements of facts/counterarguments/etc could be the grounds of a lawsuit.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 10, 2011 03:23 PM (QxSug)

27 and decimate 14 more..,,

They're 10% wounded I guess.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:24 PM (S5YRY)

28
I think we know enough about Jared Loughner to put together a comprehensive profile.

A concise history of this guy would be a good first post for a new co-blogger, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 03:24 PM (uFokq)

29 When Megan Kelly was interviewing him...she asked about those reports and if they were resolved to "the satisfaction of the department" and Dipshit became flustered and stuttered "who?" ...I know Meagan was probably thinking ...Loughner! you flipping idiot...the person we have been discussing during this whole interview. Watch it again....so who knows?...maybe he does wanna cover his own butt and blame someone else.

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:24 PM (lFt0D)

30 Okay, sincere question: How much ass-covering could a county employee do? Enough to cover up for a mental case making death threats?

Posted by: joncelli at January 10, 2011 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

31 The family member in question is a female relative who works for the county's parks and rec dept. Not sure if she has any juice to sway people in the county that much that allowed Jared to avoid the law for so long.

Posted by: EC at January 10, 2011 03:25 PM (mAhn3)

32 Let me be clear, you people are just jumping to conclusions...um... as I've always said, uh we must not pass, uh, judgement until, um, er, we are able to prove that this act was by, for and of Republicans, uh particularly Sarah Palin and the others who uh plan to uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh run against me in 2012.

Posted by: BARRY O. at January 10, 2011 03:26 PM (3jZ02)

33 I guess anyone named Jared should be questioned.

Posted by: not jared at January 10, 2011 03:26 PM (0AkWH)

34 Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 03:18 PM (1m3DK)

He's a better target than Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh. At least they both admit a Living God who Loves Good and Hates Evil.

Just sayin'.

As for this sheriff- I won't be terribly surprised if it's true. What other reason for breaking the well-known rule (even if its unofficial- but I don't think it is) about speculation / commenting on an "open investigation?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:26 PM (8y9MW)

35 Wait, so you're saying Dupnik is so fucking dumb as to blame Palin in his attempts to deflect from himself? It is unfathomable that he is not already a Darwin Award winner.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2011 03:27 PM (6qPsd)

36 Tom DeLay sentenced to 3 years in prison, per National Review Online.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2011 03:27 PM (hUf/c)

37 As a Concerned Christian Conservative it bother me that people on these threads are trying to scapegoat a dedicated public servant instead of placing the blame squarely where it is deserved: Palin, Limbaugh, Beck and Bachmann.

Posted by: Mark in Cincinnatti at January 10, 2011 03:27 PM (Bn2v8)

38 I blame Janet Reno, and the children, - but mostly the children.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2011 03:28 PM (GwPRU)

39 Teh hate is strong with C-Span callers this afternoon.

If anyone is looking for some entertainment.

Posted by: ef at January 10, 2011 03:28 PM (c7Pp2)

40 Posted by: not jared at January 10, 2011 03:26 PM (0AkWH)

Yeah... how DID he lose so much weight, anyway?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:28 PM (8y9MW)

41 I don't think Sheriff Dipshit blamed Palin per say.....just the entire Tea Party and all conservative talk show hosts.

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (lFt0D)

42 What other reason for breaking the well-known rule (even if its unofficial- but I don't think it is) about speculation / commenting on an "open investigation?"
I can think of one: Sheriff Lobo might just be a common variety dumbass.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (B+qrE)

43 Posted by: Mark in Cincinnatti at January 10, 2011 03:27 PM (Bn2v

You forgot Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, and Jim DeMint.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (8y9MW)

44 You know who this hurts?

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (pW2o8)

45 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (B+qrE)

Naaa... That goes way beyond "common variety." He may even be idiotus nobilis.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:30 PM (8y9MW)

46 37
As a Concerned Christian Conservative troll it bother [sic] me that people on these
threads are trying to scapegoat a dedicated public servant instead of
placing the blame squarely where it is deserved: Palin, Limbaugh, Beck
and Bachmann.



Posted by: Mark in Cincinnatti at January 10, 2011 03:27 PM (Bn2v

There ya go.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2011 03:30 PM (6qPsd)

47 @33 OMG, while I was looking for the picture, you beat me to it!

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2011 03:30 PM (pW2o8)

48 You know what's next? His assuredly scum-of-the-earth defense lawyer who will say,

"The publicity and speculation has made it impossible for my client to get a fair trial."

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2011 03:31 PM (FcR7P)

49 @46 - Oh, I was giving him credit for a missed /sarc tag.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:32 PM (8y9MW)

50 Did you mention is mom works for the county?

Gee, wonder why his drug arrest got dropped.

Something smells like democrat, er shit.

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 03:32 PM (JpFM9)

51 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry.

Yea, this doesn't sound like a dysfunctional family issue at all.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 03:32 PM (TMB3S)

52 "As we understand it, there have been law enforcement contacts with the
individual where he made threats to kill," Dupnik said during a press
conference Saturday evening. But he wouldn't say who those threats were
aimed at."

Posted by: aquaviva at January 10, 2011 03:33 PM (G2pUm)

53 42

What other reason for breaking the well-known rule (even if its
unofficial- but I don't think it is) about speculation / commenting on
an "open investigation?"


I can think of one: Sheriff Lobo might just be a common variety dumbass.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:29 PM (B+qrE)
Well, there was a rumor he didn't secure the crime scene for three hours, so dumbass is looking good.I betcha this assclown that killed all these people walks due to loss of chain of evidence.

Posted by: Dummy at January 10, 2011 03:33 PM (LdYLm)

54 /sarc

Posted by: Mark in Cincinnatti at January 10, 2011 03:33 PM (Bn2v8)

55 I think Schizophrenia runs in families...if I'm not mistaken...and the dad is said to be a little on the strange side

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:34 PM (lFt0D)

56 Damnit ACE!!!!! You know FULL WELL that this has nothing to do with it. It's Sarah Palin's fault.

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 03:34 PM (UK9cE)

57 Sheriff Lobo might just be a common variety dumbass.
Good evidence for that when he announced he refused to enforce state law...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 03:34 PM (4ucxv)

58 Yeah, I'm just going to assume this is true and post it all over the Interwebz.

Seems reasonable in light of the circumstances.

Posted by: Andy at January 10, 2011 03:35 PM (5Rurq)

59 >>I can think of one: Sheriff Lobo might just be a common variety dumbass.<<

Never underestimate the power of Stupid.


Posted by: SlaveDog at January 10, 2011 03:36 PM (H6Jyg)

60 I betcha this assclown that killed all these people walks due to loss of chain of evidence.

It will be hard to dismiss the testimony of the people holding him down. Involuntary commitment is the most likely result though. This guys a loon.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:36 PM (S5YRY)

61 I'll get to the bottom of this..

Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at January 10, 2011 03:36 PM (bBrvD)

62 15 Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County.This is the part that sticks out like a sore thumb. It starts with that relative who works for the county "losing" parking tickets and tax records but sooner or later someone pulls a stunt that the friendly insider can't cover up.Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 10, 2011 03:19 PM (F/4zf)

Don't forget that Dr(!). Amy Bishop got away with killing her brother in the 80's thanks to her family's political connections.

Posted by: Mćtenloch at January 10, 2011 03:37 PM (pAlYe)

63 '''''''''''''''

Just getting in my apostrophes.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:37 PM (S5YRY)

64 31 She probably had enough sway to give old Jared a pass for as long as he just looked like a crackpot that probably was more scary than dangerous (that was probably the line of reasoning, the excuse for letting it get swept under the table). Just about anybody who works for the city/county/state can get all manner of things swept under the table, unlike the average little people.
I havea feeling that was the plausible deniability here: he was just a goofy, crazy kid...you know how they are, silly kid into pot smoking, he'll grow up someday...move along, nothing to see
Except this one followed through.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 10, 2011 03:38 PM (5/yRG)

65 Ace.... lemme lay a "little" confimation on ya.

From the Arizona Daily Star, early on in news cycle.

http://tinyurl.com/27hamen

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik would not confirm Loughner
is the suspected shooter. He said the person arrested for the
shooting is uninjured and uncooperative.



The suspected shooter has made death threats before and been
contacted by law-enforcement officers, but the threats weren't
against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Dupnik said. The suspect is
unstable, Dupnik said, but the sheriff would not say he is
"insane."


I'd say from Dupniks own mouth is a pretty good source.






Posted by: fixerupper at January 10, 2011 03:38 PM (J5Hcw)

66 54
/sarc

Posted by: Mark in Cincinnatti at January 10, 2011 03:33 PM (Bn2v

Sorry Mark.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2011 03:38 PM (6qPsd)

67 When I first heard this story and the shooters name, I thought it was Jared, the former fatass from the subway commercials that I can't stand, finally lost his mind from starving himself to death.

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (UK9cE)

68
Is Sheriff Dipwick related to Tarantula Head?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (ZHsNw)

69 Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:36 PM (S5YRY)

If only people admitted the moral basis for the Death Penalty...

I don't normally hold with executing the truly mentally ill, but I'm really thinking that one time is enough for this guy- no extra chances. And it's not exactly impossible to be released/escape from a mental facility (even the ones run by/in conjunction with the Justice Department).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (8y9MW)

70 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry. That rarely works. Or turns out well.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (B+qrE)

71 The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.If true, this is a class case of negligent homicide. Heads should roll.
Posted by: Kratos
And Sheriff Quickdraw may prove to be a convenient "target" toobfuscate the howling over the false accusations. The media can go after this jerk, much the same way they attacked the Duke lacrosse team, then attacked the crooked DA. The lying, drugged out child neglecting accuser was ignored.

We should take bets on when they turn on him. It'll be like shark week

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 10, 2011 03:40 PM (R2fpr)

72 In the reportage of this tragedy little is being said about the people who tackled Loughner. One is a retired Colonel.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 10, 2011 03:41 PM (Bn2v8)

73
The liberal media are off their game plan this afternoon by announcing Tom Delay's prison sentence when they should be on message about the evil conservatives, Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at January 10, 2011 03:42 PM (ZHsNw)

74 48 That's not really being a scum of the earth so much as a good defense lawyer -- law enforcement has dropped the ball on this one, positively gave the defense a lot of stuff.
It's the defense lawyer's job to get the best outcome at trial -- it isn't the defense lawyer's fault that things are so mucked up.
He's not going to walk, but now the electric chair is looking like a no go...thank you Sheriff Dupnik.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 10, 2011 03:42 PM (5/yRG)

75 One is a retired Colonel.
Yes. Janet Napolitano's geniuses at DHS unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:42 PM (B+qrE)

76 And Sheriff Quickdraw may prove to be a convenient "target" toobfuscate the howling over the false accusations.

STOP INSULTING ME!!!!!

Posted by: Quickdraw McGraw at January 10, 2011 03:43 PM (UK9cE)

77 The sheriff is 74. Maybe be HE'S got alzheimers, it would explain his stupidity and his forgetting that his department was warned about Jared.

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 03:43 PM (JpFM9)

78 That rarely works. Or turns out well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (B+qrE)
We've worked hard to develop extraction techniques that minimize the loss of life or property.

Posted by: Janet Reno at January 10, 2011 03:44 PM (QKKT0)

79 71 I'm going to go with late next week, with a side bet on "by Friday".

Posted by: unknown jane at January 10, 2011 03:44 PM (5/yRG)

80 One is a retired Colonel.

One was a 70 y/o lady. With balls, apparently.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:44 PM (S5YRY)

81 Note that Dupnik was also laser- focused on a possible "second shooter", without the usual caution placed on stressing the fact that the person might simply be a witness, not an active partner.

Posted by: ktgreat at January 10, 2011 03:44 PM (crXRa)

82 77
The sheriff is 74. Maybe be HE'S got alzheimers, it would explain his
stupidity and his forgetting that his department was warned about Jared.

Then he shouldn't have been the Sheriff. Why was he re(?)-elected if his hold on his mental facilities was becoming tenuous.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2011 03:45 PM (9hSKh)

83 Kemp....it would explain the...who? what? where am I? shtick he pulled when asked about that in the Megan Kelly interview

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (lFt0D)

84 Note that Dupnik was also laser- focused on a possible "second shooter"

Don't you just know the cabbie crapped himself when they showed the video of the "Person of Interest".

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (S5YRY)

85 Pima County Sheriff Dupnik: Arizona is 'a mecca for prejudice and bigotry'

Arizona is mecca?

This man is definitely a dumbass.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (GwPRU)

86 70 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry. That rarely works. Or turns out well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (B+qrE)
Especially if Janet Reno is involved.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (NNrYJ)

87 This does sound very plausible, and it explains the Dupnik's shrillness.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (ypYKp)

88 Then he shouldn't have been the Sheriff. Why was he re(?)-elected if his hold on his mental facilities was becoming tenuous.
Representative John Dingell on Line 1.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:46 PM (B+qrE)

89 Note that Dupnik was also laser- focused on a possible "second shooter", without the usual caution placed on stressing the fact that the person might simply be a witness, not an active partner.
He momentarily confused Tucson with 1963 Dallas.

Posted by: Cicero at January 10, 2011 03:47 PM (QKKT0)

90 If what Cholla (it was a sidebar link by rdbrewer) has blogged turns out to be true, heads should roll - gut the senior members of the department and bring in an outsider. Dupnik should be suspended from his office and a corruption investigation begun immediately.

Posted by: Penfold at January 10, 2011 03:47 PM (1PeEC)

91 Representative John Dingell on Line 1.

Zombie Robert Byrd on Line 2.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 10, 2011 03:47 PM (8y9MW)

92 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry. That rarely works. Or turns out well.
Tell me about it.

Posted by: The Branch Davidians at January 10, 2011 03:48 PM (TNuqz)

93 This sheriff is an illustration of what happens when you vote for people in elections that you have no idea about. Do research people! At least here, the sheriff is on the ballot, probably the same there. So, I bet this guy's given himself a brand new introduction to his constituents...one that is quite embarrassing.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 10, 2011 03:48 PM (QxSug)

94 He momentarily confused Tucson with 1963 Dallas.
Posted by: Cicero at January 10, 2011 03:47 PM (QKKT0)
Said confusion caused by not finding a Book Depository and/or Grassy Knoll in Tucson.


Just wanted to see if I could spell Tucson correctly.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 03:49 PM (XBM1t)

95 Remember the 60's and 70's?? Yup, good times. No angryrhetoric, no racism...just peace.

Posted by: Sheriff Dipnik at January 10, 2011 03:49 PM (pr+up)

96
What's this?

The parents have barricaded their home to keep the FBI from entering?

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (uFokq)

97 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry.
Paging Janet Reno, Janet Reno please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (oW269)

98 Ace, he admitted it at a news conference. Here is the story from NPR.

http://tinyurl.com/4qfb3y4

Posted by: robtr at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (hVDig)

99 Why was he re(?)-elected if his hold on his mental facilities was becoming tenuous.

see Hank Johnson, D-GA aka Guam tipping over fretter

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (lFt0D)

100 Lets see, In NJ if your mom thinks you are depressed and call the cops, they arrest you for illegal transport and send you to jail. In AZ you make death threats and the sheriff tells the threatened not to worry, he doesn't want to make trouble for a relative of a county employee.

Must be Palin's fault. And we need more laws.

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (DHNp4)

101 I can just hear Dear Leader's advisors now, saying: "Okay, we know it didn't work the first time but why don't you say the police acted stupidly now".

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (B1tDt)

102
Posted by: Sheriff Dipnik at January 10, 2011 03:49 PM (pr+up)


Stop with the nonsense and spell my name correctly.

Posted by: Sheriff Dipstick at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (ZHsNw)

103 Arizona Republic is claiming that the Loughner family has barricaded themselves in their home and not allowing the FBI entry.
That rarely works. Or turns out well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:39 PM (B+qrE)
I heard Rush say that they've hired the same lawyer that theunabomber had.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2011 03:51 PM (VuLos)

104 Remember the 60's and 70's?? Yup, good times. No angryrhetoric, no racism...just peace.
Yeah...that was the the piece of his remarks that got me. We here at Circa Central Command once again take this opportunity to remind everyone that the 60s sucked. Full stop.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 03:51 PM (B+qrE)

105 So how many morons have their own tent in the parents backyard to smoke dope in? Check out all the photos

http://tinyurl.com/4zr93u5

This is a fucked up family.

Da huh.

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 03:51 PM (JpFM9)

106 Representative John Dingell on Line 1.Zombie Robert Byrd on Line 2.
Representative Louise "Dead Sister's Teeth" Slaughter on Line 3-1/2

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 03:51 PM (XBM1t)

107 OT:

File this in the You've Got To Be Shitting Me pile:

A top House Democrat said the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords
(D-Ariz.) should change how members of Congress are screened at
airports.


“I really believe that that is the place where we feel the most ill
at ease, is going through airports,” Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), who
serves as assistant minority leader in the House, said on "Fox News Sunday."

Clyburn
called for the Transportation Security Administration, which
administers airport security checkpoints, to interact “a little better”
with the Capitol Hill Police.


“We’ve had some incidents where TSA authorities think that
congresspeople should be treated like everybody else,” he said. “Well,
the fact of the matter is, we are held to a higher standard in so many
other areas, and I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how the
TSA interact with members of Congress.”

Posted by: momma at January 10, 2011 03:52 PM (penCf)

108 Pima County Sheriff Dupnik: Arizona is 'a mecca for prejudice and bigotry'Hateful rhetoric like this is harmful to Muslims. Tea Partiers like this Sheriff should be removed from positions of power. or beheaded. Either one works for me.

Posted by: Achmed the dead Terrorist at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (R2fpr)

109 Sheriff Buford was just doing his job.

Posted by: demoncrat at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (FDgRX)

110 Hank Johnson, D-GA aka Guam tipping over fretter

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:50 PM (lFt0D)

We dont anticipate that happening.

Posted by: Admiral holding back laughter at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (ph9vn)

111 Stop playing around with my name. Did Sarah Palin put you up to that?

Posted by: Sheriff Dipshit at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (SJ6/3)

112 Representative Louise "Dead Sister's Teeth" Slaughter on Line 3-1/2

Heh...forgot that little gem...really ...where DO these people come from?

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (lFt0D)

113 Fox News confirms that the Loughner's parents have barricaded themselves in their home. Now we know why his parents didn't commit him/

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (Bn2v8)

114
Here in Tennessee we don't act like a dipstick, we are the real thang.

Posted by: Sheriff Buford Pusser at January 10, 2011 03:54 PM (ZHsNw)

115 One is a retired Colonel.

This article gives a better account of what the Colonel did. It is important to note that he had been grazed in the head by one of laughner's bullets just berfore tackling him.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 10, 2011 03:54 PM (tf9Ne)

116 “I really believe that that is the place where we feel the most ill
at ease, is going through airports,” Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), who
serves as assistant minority leader in the House, said on "Fox News Sunday."

Yeah, cuz there's a shitload of people going through security at airports with weapons. Non-stop, I tell ya.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2011 03:54 PM (VuLos)

117 104 He actually said that? I thought it was a bit of moron snark.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 10, 2011 03:55 PM (5/yRG)

118 I can just hear Dear Leader's advisors now, saying: "Okay, we know it didn't work the first time but why don't you say the police acted stupidly now".
Posted by: Soona
Threadwinner.
From the sound of things, this jerks' family and the Sheriff of Nuttyham are neck in neck in the asshole Olympics.

Posted by: Achmed the dead Terrorist at January 10, 2011 03:55 PM (R2fpr)

119 Stop playing around with my name. Did Sarah Palin put you up to that?
Posted by: Sheriff Dipshit at January 10, 2011 03:53 PM (SJ6/3)
OKAY, PEOPLE, ENOUGH. You've had your fun.

Posted by: Sheriff Dik Dik at January 10, 2011 03:56 PM (B+qrE)

120 Like any good law official, I'd recommend you suspend comment and speculation until all the facts come in, Ace.

Posted by: Sheriff Limpdik at January 10, 2011 03:56 PM (leNBy)

121 The way the Colonel explained it, he didn't do much. He seems to have been understating his role.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 10, 2011 03:57 PM (SJ6/3)

122 C'mon guys. Quit it!

Posted by: Sheriff Dumbfuck at January 10, 2011 03:57 PM (QKKT0)

123 I believe .....

http://tinyurl.com/4f6gcqh



Okay, I have my doubts...but whatever...the TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

Posted by: Fox Mulder at January 10, 2011 03:57 PM (HqpV0)

124
That Sheriff Dipstick is a fraud, and I know frauds when I seen 'um.

Posted by: Sheriff Buford T. Justice at January 10, 2011 03:58 PM (ZHsNw)

125 This is what happens when you devote your life to morbid
self-attention.

He should have become a person, like other
people.




Posted by: nine coconuts at January 10, 2011 03:58 PM (DHNp4)

126 From Tucson blogger, must be true right?

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in
Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio
personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff's Office was
informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well
managed by the mental health system. It
was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be
unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared
Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. [His mother] Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. …

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 03:58 PM (JpFM9)

127 Sheriff Dipshit acted stupidly.

Posted by: Roscoe P. Coaltrain at January 10, 2011 03:58 PM (SJ6/3)

128 Just an old question that I've been thinking of for the last hour or so. Was the venue that the gathering was at a "no guns" facility? I wonder how many would have died if someone with a "conceal and carry" could have brought their firearms inside?

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 03:59 PM (B1tDt)

129
"We didn’t have this kind of nonsense going on, and it used to be that
politicians from different parties could sit down, forget about their
ideology, and work on the country’s problems. We don’t see that
happening today. As a matter of fact, we see exactly the opposite. We
see one Party trying to block the attempts of another Party to make this
a better country. "

Posted by: Sheriff El-Do-A-Bong at January 10, 2011 03:59 PM (LdYLm)

130 we are held to a higher standard in so many other areas
Yeah, that whole "can't keep wads of bribery cash in your fridge" is a burdensome standard. Ditto "can't illegally claim rent control on multiple apartments." And the whole "keep Cadillac health plan while penalizing others'" is a bitch.
France 1789.
I hereby denounce myself.

Posted by: Sheriff Dik Dik at January 10, 2011 04:00 PM (B+qrE)

131 Yeah, cuz there's a shitload of people going
through security at airports with weapons. Non-stop, I tell ya.


Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2011 03:54 PM (VuLos)
I brought this up on Sunday. My guess is that while the other dems are trying to figure out how to use this to help the party, he is trying to get himself a private jet. with spinners.

Posted by: nine coconuts at January 10, 2011 04:00 PM (DHNp4)

132 Sock off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 10, 2011 04:00 PM (B+qrE)

133 Ok. That's enough with my name play. Now, someone give me Palin's phone number so I can call her in for questioning.

Posted by: Sheriff Sputnik at January 10, 2011 04:00 PM (UK9cE)

134 The Sheriff was not interested in arresting a left wing nutcase for death threats. Those aren't threat-threats.

The Justice Dept has only authorized them to arrest Iraq war vets and other right wing nuts.

How silly of you.

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 04:01 PM (+sBB4)

135 Hooboy. Sheriff Dipshit is going to catch hell for a long time--around here, anyway.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2011 04:01 PM (ypYKp)

136 I brought this up on Sunday. My guess is that while the other dems are trying to figure out how to use this to help the party, he is trying to get himself a private jet. with spinners.
Posted by: nine coconuts at January 10, 2011 04:00 PM (DHNp4)
And curb feelers.

I denounce myself again.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (XBM1t)

137 Daily Kos has pulled Jared's posts. Who would have thought a right winger would be posting a Kos Kids? Shocked to find out he is a commie.

His mom's letter.

http://tinyurl.com/4f6gcqh

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (JpFM9)

138 He's the first to qualify as "arch-dipshit."

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (ypYKp)

139 Loughner had posts at Kos?

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (ypYKp)

Posted by: Sheriff Buford T. Justice at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (ZHsNw)

141 They have barricaded themselves into their house? What could possibly go wrong with that?

Posted by: David "extra krispy" Koresh. at January 10, 2011 04:03 PM (SJ6/3)

142 Sheriff Halfwit kinda looks like the cop on Sons of Anarchy, doesn't he?

Posted by: Dave S at January 10, 2011 04:03 PM (leNBy)

143 From now on, I'll let my assistant Deputy Jackwagon handle all press inquiries.

Posted by: Sheriff Dumbfuck at January 10, 2011 04:04 PM (QKKT0)

144
They have barricaded themselves into their house? What could possibly go wrong with that?


Posted by: David "extra krispy" Koresh. at January 10, 2011 04:03 PM (SJ6/3)
Nothing. The FBI only attacks right wingers.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 10, 2011 04:04 PM (z1N6a)

145 Daily Kos has pulled Jared's posts. Who would have thought a right winger would be posting a Kos Kids? Shocked to find out he is a commie.Clarification: BoyBlue pulled his own post. BoyBlue is not Jared the shooter.
Apparently, posters can delete/pull their own threads/diaries as can the moderator(s) at DKos. They get mighty touchy on this point on who pulled the thread moreso than a thread was pulled/scrubbed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 04:05 PM (XBM1t)

146 kemp, how could that letter be real, i had thought s/n boyblue was already cleared?

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:06 PM (h+qn8)

147 His mom's letter.http://tinyurl.com/4f6gcqh

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (JpFM9)

There's no way that's legit....is there? Really? Honest and fore-true? Markos has blood on his hands? Fucking American Taliban!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:06 PM (UK9cE)

148 So her home was a gun free zone?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 10, 2011 04:07 PM (SJ6/3)

149 They have barricaded themselves into their house? What could possibly go wrong with that?

Posted by: David "extra krispy" Koresh. at January 10, 2011 04:03 PM (SJ6/3)

Nothing comes to mind for me either.

Posted by: Randy Weaver at January 10, 2011 04:07 PM (tf9Ne)

150
127 Sheriff Dipshit acted stupidly.
You're telling me...

Posted by: Deputy Enos at January 10, 2011 04:07 PM (u44uf)

151 I don't think it is a real email from Loughners mom....is there really a mail server called at*mail*dot*com?...

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 04:08 PM (lFt0D)

152 maybe the letter IS from the mother. no idea. but i believe Boyblue was cleared. but it is interesting in his history he read kos.
(if any of that letter is true) which i'm not convinced

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:08 PM (h+qn8)

153 Just an old question that I've been thinking of for
the last hour or so. Was the venue that the gathering was at a "no
guns" facility? I wonder how many would have died if someone with a
"conceal and carry" could have brought their firearms inside?

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 03:59 PM (B1tDt)

I thought that they were pounding on Brewer because she got the CC permit law repealed and anyone over 21 could carry........Didn't I read that earlier?

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:08 PM (UK9cE)

154 Free Republic pulled the thread for the alleged "Amy Laughner" Letter

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 10, 2011 04:09 PM (Bn2v8)

155 His mom's letter.http://tinyurl.com/4f6gcqh
Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:02 PM (JpFM9)

There's no way that's legit....is there? Really? Honest and fore-true? Markos has blood on his hands? Fucking American Taliban!!!!!!

IT'S A TRAP! LETTER IS A FAKE. SICK TWISTED ASSHOLE MADE THAT LETTER.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 04:09 PM (XBM1t)

156 Count. i hate this crap. what a horrible thing to do.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:11 PM (h+qn8)

157 Yeah, I am beginning to think the letter is Bull also. It is too "clean".

How would you like to be this poor woman. I hope that's not little Jarad next to her, obviously it's not.

http://tinyurl.com/5tcy5hr

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:11 PM (JpFM9)

158 Just an old question that I've been thinking of for the last hour or
so. Was the venue that the gathering was at a "no guns" facility? I
wonder how many would have died if someone with a "conceal and carry"
could have brought their firearms inside?

As a CCW holder, that's one of my worst nightmares. Seems like most of the places you'd wind up needing it are "gun free zones."

That's a bad tactical situation for a CCW holder too, with all the innocent bystanders standing around.

All in all, this ended about as well as it was going to, even if there had been an armed cop standing there.

Posted by: Andy at January 10, 2011 04:12 PM (5Rurq)

159 www.mail.com exists.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 10, 2011 04:12 PM (SJ6/3)

160 The shooter had accounts somewhere. He liked to talk.

palinsteele?

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 04:12 PM (+sBB4)

161 Kemp. if she's in any way a regular mom. she is suffering. who wouldn't be.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:13 PM (h+qn8)

162 Falvius...oh it does? well I would've thought the host would have interjected their name like yahoo or hotmail does...seems so generic

Posted by: kawfy at January 10, 2011 04:14 PM (lFt0D)

163 still sounds like the dad was a real piece of work, if his neighbors are speaking the truth.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:14 PM (h+qn8)

164 OK, knock it off with the name jokes, you assholes.

Also, I'm not gay.

Posted by: Sherriff Fishsticks at January 10, 2011 04:14 PM (ixLpQ)

165 IT'S A TRAP! LETTER IS A FAKE. SICK TWISTED ASSHOLE MADE THAT LETTER.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 04:09 PM (XBM1t)

Yeah....I figured that, but it would be pretty ironic if it WERE true.

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:16 PM (UK9cE)

166 164
OK, knock it off with the name jokes, you assholes.

Also, I'm not gay.


Posted by: Sherriff Fishsticks at January 10, 2011 04:14 PM (ixLpQ)
But I do have a secret identity...

Posted by: El Do-A-Bong at January 10, 2011 04:16 PM (LdYLm)

167
The shooter had accounts somewhere. He liked to talk. palinsteele?

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 04:12 PM (+sBB4)

Greg....

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:16 PM (UK9cE)

168 #161

No doubt. She shouldn't have let the sucker smoke dope in the backyard. Remorse is hard. Being a lazy parent is easy.

You think this mom's kids are going to shot anyone?

http://tinyurl.com/2v8fg3k

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:16 PM (JpFM9)

169 I thought that they were pounding on Brewer because she got the CC permit law repealed and anyone over 21 could carry........Didn't I read that earlier?
Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:08 PM (UK9cE)

I don't know. But I do know that many of these shooters have surmised like most everyone thatthe majority ofplaces, work or otherwise, don't allow guns thus making it easy to just go in and start shooting without regard that maybe someone may shoot back. Maybe this should change. Even though there's ano-guns rule where I work, several people that I know (most of them women) take guns in.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 04:17 PM (B1tDt)

170 yes, Amy Chu is an awesome mother.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:20 PM (h+qn8)

171 #170

Hot too!

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:21 PM (JpFM9)

172 i hate this crap. what a horrible thing to do.
Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:11 PM (h+qn
Yes indeed. This business will get is getting out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at January 10, 2011 04:22 PM (XBM1t)

173 Kemp, haha, yes she's hot. although she might not like me saying so.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:25 PM (h+qn8)

174 There's no way that's legit....is
there? Really? Honest and fore-true? Markos has blood on his hands?
Fucking American Taliban!!!!!!


Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 04:06 PM (UK9cE)
No way. 'She' conveniently mentioned her son posts as "Blue Bell" or "Blueboy" on Kos.

Posted by: Tami at January 10, 2011 04:25 PM (VuLos)

175 Like I said the day this happened keep Dupnik away from the crime scene and the houses the per. had access to. Dupnik took an oath to uphold the law. He has chosen to not enforce AZ1070 the AZ immigration enforcement law. he has shown that he will not abide by the laws of the ST.

Posted by: Buffalobob at January 10, 2011 04:28 PM (GwH6h)

176 No wonder Mueller swooped in.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 10, 2011 04:30 PM (ypYKp)

177 173
Kemp, haha, yes she's hot. although she might not like me saying so.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:25 PM (h+qn
You know her? Cool.
Did you see the WSJ story got 2000 posts. Lots of them negative. I thought the story was great, although probably takes a Yale Professor to pull shit like that off!

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:31 PM (JpFM9)

178 No, I don't know her, but I wish i were as successful a mother as she.

Posted by: willow at January 10, 2011 04:32 PM (h+qn8)

179 #178 To bad.

Well, when you start with that much gray matter, both her and her husband teach at Yale, obviously her kids are not stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/5wtet6d

Posted by: Kemp at January 10, 2011 04:38 PM (JpFM9)

180 Hey, what is that over yonder. (runs other way)

Posted by: Sheriff Dupedick at January 10, 2011 04:52 PM (RSfE/)

181 Andy at 158
That's a bad tactical situation for a CCW holder too, with all the innocent bystanders standing around.

You're goddamn right it is.

When somebody starts shooting in a big crowd of people, those folks start running every which way. Screaming. Pushing. Chaos.

If somebody has heard a round count out of Tucson, I've missed it, but assuming he had one of those 31-round mags for a Glock 19, he could have easily emptied that thing in less than 30 seconds.

And if I was there with my CCW, trying to make some sense of all that chaos in a very short time frame, and figure out who the shooter was while not potentially shoot some other CCW holder who was as scared shitless as I would be, and in the process, not getting my own-self shot , absent an almost absolute certainty of who the bad-guy was here, I'd keep that weapon tucked away out-of-sight. If, with every good intention, you end up shooting an innocent, you're going to jail, Cowboy. No different than the nutcase.

I don't like going to malls or other places here in AZ which typically post those "No Guns" signs, but trying to extricate myself from a mall shooting scenario is exactly this sort of thing.

Posted by: Another CCW holder at January 10, 2011 04:57 PM (qisYI)

182 Hey, what about Alec Baldwin, he's a drug abusing liberal who advocated public death of Henry Hyde, I think he influenced and directly caused the Tuscon shootings.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 10, 2011 05:07 PM (QxSug)

183 I have 16 plus years experience in social services. Nearly 8 years of it working as a mental health caseworker. I resigned from my job nearly two years ago because of the abuses, scams and waste I saw within the mental health system. I have commented on this very thing several times over on HotAir.
We have changed the way we have dealt with the mentally ill in America. We have emptied the hospitals and are forcing severe mentally ill people into community living situations, where they live alone in apartments with nothing more than a weekly visit from a caseworker. I am telling you, this is the thing Republicans need to focus on. We have ticking time bombs living among us. People who 25 years ago would have been institutionalized for their own safety as well as the communities safety, and instead, we are allowing them to live in our neighborhoods. People who have severe hallucinations, fantasies of killing sprees, severe paranoia and engage in criminal activity but their actions are overlooked since the have a MH diagnosis.

Posted by: Jellytoast at January 10, 2011 05:37 PM (INYnU)

184
RE: Whether a Parks & Rec employee had enough "juice"

I don't know how big Pima County is, but here in Fairfax County, Virginia, there are about 15k county employees. I don't mean this negatively when I say this, but it is amazing how many know each other. Here, the pay isn't good, but the defined benefits pension is, so these folks are essentially job-locked. The smarter ones have multiple careers within the county, so the networks run broad and deep. There are employees who knew each other since starting kindergarten. There are employees who are blood relatives. There are employees who work in the same office with their ex-spouses. I had heard of a guy who worked in the same division as his ex's new husband (I don't know that this last one is true, though).

The point of my rambling is that in my local county's government, a person's slot in the org chart doesn't necessarily correspond to how much pull that person might muster.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 06:40 PM (xJVlJ)

185
RE: Fat Jared of Subway fame

That clown lost all that weight through laxative abuse. He started down the path with a $10 package of ExLax. He ate half of it in one sitting. About thirty minutes later, he invented the $5 foot-long.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 06:42 PM (xJVlJ)

186 "...did the family member who worked for Pima County intervene (horribly) and let Jared bypass that [gun mental health] check?"

Isn't his mother on the County Board of Supervisors? If she knew he was this unstable, and yet managed to "arrange" a gun permit for him, I think that might well just be enough to charge her with manslaughter. It'd be like....well, giving a gun to a fucking nutjob. Oh wait: it wouldn't be LIKE that, it would BE that.

Posted by: Dave J. at January 10, 2011 08:40 PM (DCQ0q)

187 Apparently, not only does Loughner's mom work for the County parks and rec dept. but his dad works for Children's Protective Services and more than likely has far more pull with the Sheriff's office than the mom does.
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