Oh, My: TSA Pat-down Leaves 61 Year Old Bladder Cancer Sufferer Soaked in Urine, Crying [rdbrewer]

Poor guy.

He wears pants two sizes too large to accomodate the medical equipment he wears. With his belt off, his pants fell down. He tried to tell them about his medical condition and the urostomy bag. The TSA agents informed him they "didn't need to know about that." Only until they saw the bag did they want to know about his medical condition. When they began the pat-down, he tried to warn them about the seal on the bag. They ignored him. Then they broke the seal. Urine dribbled down his shirt and into his pants. No apologies. No offer of help. They acted like it never happened.

A retired special education teacher on his way to a wedding in Orlando, Fla., said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down by TSA officers recently at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

“I was absolutely humiliated, I couldn’t even speak,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich.

Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his stomach. “I have to wear special clothes and in order to mount the bag I have to seal a wafer to my stomach and then attach the bag. If the seal is broken, urine can leak all over my body and clothes.”

On Nov. 7, Sawyer said he went through the security scanner at Detroit Metropolitan Airport. “Evidently the scanner picked up on my urostomy bag, because I was chosen for a pat-down procedure.”

Due to his medical condition, Sawyer asked to be screened in private. “One officer looked at another, rolled his eyes and said that they really didn’t have any place to take me,” said Sawyer. “After I said again that I’d like privacy, they took me to an office.”

(Emphasis mine.) He then walked through the airport soaked in urine. He couldn't clean up until he was on the airplane.

As soon as Mr. Sawyer said the words "medical condition," someone should have snapped out of auto-pilot and listened to him before continuing. Not everyone flying is in the same situation. It's not an assembly line. These are real people.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:42 PM



Comments

1 Wow... someone ought to be flogged for that. Did the TSA really think he was a suicide bomber, or just get off on exerting arbitrary power?

Posted by: Randy at November 20, 2010 11:47 PM (GtTYq)

2 Something has to change here big time.

Does anyone really believe these TSA agents are professional enough to handle this stuff?

I do not believe the polls that show people support this. I think when the question is asked people are thinking about typical airport security and a small inconvenience, not a full on molestation at the hands of government bureaucrats some of which get a kick out of asserting their power.

Security, absolutely.

Being manhandled in a fashion that if done a step outside the airport would put the TSA worker in jail for sexual assault, NO.

Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2010 11:50 PM (1jzSs)

3 The cattle are nervous and a bolt of lightning is going to start a stampede.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2010 11:51 PM (CbwqF)

4 when you're a house plant with human dna and TSA badge, there are no real people, just folks you can fuck over with impunity.


Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2010 11:51 PM (d1FhN)

5 that's terrible

Posted by: gavin newsome at November 20, 2010 11:52 PM (eOXTH)

6 socks suck

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 20, 2010 11:53 PM (eOXTH)

7 What needs to be scrutinized is the quality of employees who are hired for these jobs. I may be wrong, but my understanding was that they aren't particularly well trained. Again, I may be wrong on this. But if what I had heard in the past is true, then we are putting an enormous amount of power in the hands of people, at least some of whom don't have the judgement for the job.

Who the hell would take a shirt off a 2 year old, looking for explosives? At the rate they're going, they will hurt the airline industry, more jobs lost.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 20, 2010 11:54 PM (AUzkb)

8 7, I think you are right. At some point this does hurt the already fragile economy if a considerable number of people stop flying or reduce their flying.

Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2010 11:55 PM (1jzSs)

9 Serves him right. The humiliation he inflicts on the planet by flying and destroying it is much greater.

Posted by: Libtard at November 20, 2010 11:59 PM (eMjOY)

10
The ads for alternative modes of travel write themselves.

Posted by: eman at November 20, 2010 11:59 PM (CbwqF)

11 Re: #2, a recent Pew poll showed that only 45% of Americans realize that the GOP just retook the House. So you bet many of them have no idea what is going on in our airports.

Posted by: David Shane at November 21, 2010 12:00 AM (+M16j)

12 Oh, and this incident with the bladder cancer survivor occurred at the Detroit Airport. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer there.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:00 AM (AUzkb)

13 The regime has finally done the one thing that may set off the powder keg.

They personalized their desire to intrude.

Taxes and bailouts and health care are (so far) distant -- they're going to affect us, but not right away, and the problems are almost too intractably big to get your mind around.

Now it's government quite literally putting its hands on you. What's the over/under on a riot in an airport by the end of the holidays?

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 21, 2010 12:01 AM (86FvD)

14 I have a urostomy bag.
I am not surprised to hear a story like this.
I am dreading having to fly.

Posted by: me at November 21, 2010 12:02 AM (SSuIi)

15 7 What needs to be scrutinized is the quality of employees who are hired for these jobs. I may be wrong, but my understanding was that they aren't particularly well trained. Again, I may be wrong on this. But if what I had heard in the past is true, then we are putting an enormous amount of power in the hands of people, at least some of whom don't have the judgement for the job. Posted by: nerdygirl
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Something I am NOT hearing in all of this ... I assume the TSA is getting some general training in operating the Rapiscan machines. Minimal (hours/days) at best. But I happen to know it's at least a 2 years' worth of college for an AS degree in X-ray technology, and a 4 years for a BS degree. Then you take the exam and if you pass you get a license. Can we see the TSA "papers please"? Because these people are operating macines that are not supposed to be "toasters", for crissakes!

Posted by: Drillanwr at November 21, 2010 12:02 AM (NcSGp)

16 Another fine example for why those people shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Termination should be swift and certain after that kind of abuse.

Posted by: publicserf at November 21, 2010 12:04 AM (Bh8uK)

17 i'm surprised tsa would let him fly with more than
3 oz of urine in his bag.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:04 AM (eOXTH)

18 I love you and I want you to be safe.

Now bend over.

Posted by: The Federal Government at November 21, 2010 12:05 AM (CbwqF)

19 #2
A lot of people are probably assuming that you can opt for the nudie scan and that's it. I don't think they realize, that for various reasons, after the scan, the TSA employee, may decide that a grope is needed. I personally, could tolerate the scan, but I don't like getting touched by people I don't know. The pat down thing would make my skin crawl.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:06 AM (AUzkb)

20 "What's the over/under on a riot in an airport by the end of the holidays?"

At the Detroit Airport? (smirking)

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:09 AM (AUzkb)

21 nerdygirl

....it is thought by a dr. from johns hopkins that getting scanned could cause skin cancer

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:09 AM (eOXTH)

22 The regime has finally done the one thing that may set off the powder keg. They personalized their desire to intrude.
LibertarianJim, that's what I thought too. It's an object lesson in government overreach. I usually put up aNapolitano picture to help give it a face.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2010 12:10 AM (Xd/l+)

23 The lack of empathy is stunning. I don't care how tired I am or how much I might hate a job, I'd never act like that.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2010 12:12 AM (Xd/l+)

24 "While the dose would be safe if it were distributed throughout the volume of the entire body, the dose to the skin may be dangerously high," the letter said in part, adding concerns that "independent safety data do not exist" and raising the potential for further harm if a high dosage was accidentally emitted.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:12 AM (eOXTH)

25 I have a medical condition. And a pipe. My favorite pipe...

Posted by: Don't TSA me, bro! at November 21, 2010 12:13 AM (FcR7P)

26 #21
Regarding the skin cancer, I would assume the risk would increase with frequency. You can imagine why pilots don't want to have to go through them every time they fly.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:14 AM (AUzkb)

27 rdbrewer

and it's their job! they are actually employed in this crappy economy! and they rolled their eyes and claimed they had nowhere to perform a private scan! what assholes! like the guy was inconveniencing them!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:14 AM (eOXTH)

28 Am I too late to short airline stocks?

Posted by: t-bird at November 21, 2010 12:15 AM (FcR7P)

29 #25
You really love that pipe don't you.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:16 AM (AUzkb)

30 Big Sis has found a way to skip the grope. Eye Bleach Warning!

Posted by: RushBabe at November 21, 2010 12:17 AM (a3Z62)

31 i'm sure the pilots want to minimize their risks but i think a bigger reason for them not to go through them is...THEY ARE THE PILOTS! for GOD'S SAKE! THEY FLY THE PLANE! why on earth are we checking pilots?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:17 AM (eOXTH)

32 It's only a matter of time before someone decks one of these fuckers.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 21, 2010 12:21 AM (P33XN)

33 Dack, it already happened. Dude was arrested for punching a TSA employee

Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 12:23 AM (DKV43)

34 I'm torn here.
The TSA is a top down stucture and the rules are written so that the people carrying them out are not allowed to make exceptions or decisions based on their personal judgement.
At the same time this is insane.
I am more angry with the people making the rules than the TSA employees on the whole. While i am sure most of them are f'ck ups, i am sure that many of them are hard working decent people who are just following orders. I can't imagine this is a fun experience for many of them either.
This is getting out of hand though and needs to be fixed soon.

Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 12:25 AM (DKV43)

35
>>Because these people are operating machines that are not supposed to be "toasters", for crissakes!

The body scanners coming to your local airport provide marginal benefits, if any in detecting weapons and explosives hidden on travelers. They aren't worth the cost in money let alone in civil liberties.

The Transportation Security Administration has put these machines -X-ray and radio-wave booths that look beneath clothing to perform virtual strip searches across the nation and around the world. Industry advocates claim the technology's needed to stop terrorists with explosives hidden under their clothes like Christmas bomber Farouk Abdulmutallab.

Yet the public is justifiably skeptical. Pilots and passengers are "opting out" and taking the alternative screening method - a run through a traditional metal detector and an all-too-intimate pat-down. Air travelers now face a few bad choices: Submit to the body scanner, endure an invasive manual pat-down or accept an $11,000 civil fine. This is security theater at its finest. Congress needs to revisit these protocols completely starting with a total halt to the obscenely expensive and jarringly ineffective full-body scanner.

Despite what their proponents would have us believe, body scanners are not some magical tool to find all weapons and explosives that can be hidden on the human body. Yes, the scanners work against high-density objects such as guns and knives - but so do traditional magnetometers. And the scanners fare poorly against low-density materials such as thin plastics, gels and liquids. Care to guess what Abdulmutallab's bomb was made of? The Government Accountability Office reported in March that it's not clear that a scanner would've detected that device. Even if the scanners did work against low-density materials, the same group linked to the Christmas bomb, Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, has already found another way to defeat the technology: hiding bombs inside the human body. A would-be Al Qaeda assassin tried to kill a senior Saudi counterterrorism official with a bomb hidden where only a proctologist would find it. That bomb wound up killing only its carrier. But a more enterprising terrorist could go to the plane bathroom to remove bomb components hidden in a body cavity, then place them against the aircraft hull and the results would be far different.

Terrorists already know how to beat body scanners with low-tech (really, no-tech) techniques, but the federal government still spends billions on this gadget. If the ineffectiveness of body scanners is not enough to give the public pause, the cost ought to be.

An army of executives for scanner-producing corporations - mostly former high-ranking Homeland Security officials successfully lobbied Congress into spending $300 million in stimulus money to buy the scanners. But running them will cost another $340 million each year. Operating them means 5,000 added TSA personnel, growing the screener workforce by 10 percent. This, when the federal debt commission is saying that we must cut federal employment rolls, including some FBI agents, just to keep spending sustainable.

Why cut funding for the people who actually catch terrorists to add more pointless hassles at the airport? Going through a body scanner also takes longer. The process is slower than magnetometers.

Scanners clearly fail an honest cost-benefit analysis. Yet it's privacy that has the traveling public up in arms. The message the TSA is sending us is: "Be seen naked or get groped."

We tell our children not to talk to strangers, but now a government functionary gets to fondle away just because he has a badge? Thanks, but no. Policymakers can suck my dick.


Posted by: sickinmass at November 21, 2010 12:25 AM (1rflU)

36 If we'd just recognize that the problem is Islam, none of this would have happened. And no, none of the big Dems will ever have anything like this happen. Nancy P will just be waved through with her dangerous, terrorist-enabling brain.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 21, 2010 12:25 AM (bvfVF)

37 i'm just as mad at the tsa employee's ...just following orders doesn't cut it......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:27 AM (eOXTH)

38 If I have to fly I’ll have fun with it. I’ll find me the biggest
strap-on dildo I can find, one with some flexibility to it and an inner
motor that will make it vibrate, as well as expand and contract. Maybe
even ooze some kind of warm liquid from the tip. Let the groping begin.

Posted by: ThePaganTemple at November 21, 2010 12:27 AM (VdsOY)

39 So they're making the patdown so unpleasant that everyone will just opt for RapeScan, which is nice.

Then we'll have files of people's nude pics, alongside a regular photo of them, and that will get leaked, by someone desperate to find a Rapescan photo of some celebrity or whatever. Then the photos will go through face recognition that is already available on facebook and picasa, and BOOM your nudie pics are automatically tagged of you! YAY!

Posted by: Less at November 21, 2010 12:29 AM (PGXeZ)

40 Just remember. All of this groping/humiliation madness is because the liberals don't want us to profile Muslims.

Just remember.

The problem is liberals.

Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:29 AM (DetbD)

41 32 It's only a matter of time before someone decks one of these fuckers.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 21, 2010 12:21 AM (P33XN)

33 Dack, it already happened. Dude was arrested for punching a TSA employee
Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 12:23 AM (DKV43)

That's kind of how I envision the riot starting -- they guy doing the decking gets some help.

Next thing you know, there's a whole crew of jack-booted thugs being frog marched through the x-ray scanner and their pictures posted on the internet. Modern day tarring-and-feathering.

I think society pretty much starts to collapse at that point. Like the Sportscenter Y2K commerical.

http://tinyurl.com/23mltks

Follow me to freedom!

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 21, 2010 12:30 AM (86FvD)

42 This absolutely sickens me. If this happens to this guy, what kind of "individual screening" would a paraplegic or quadriplegic get?

Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 21, 2010 12:30 AM (po5rq)

43 #31
Oh, yeah. If a pilot wants to bring down a plane, he doesn't need to put explosives in his undies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 21, 2010 12:30 AM (AUzkb)

44 ENOUGH! These gross violations of privacy and dignity persons suspected of absolutely nothing,- for no real increase in security - and American's willingness to rill over on their back for them... Makes me think this country doesn't even deserve to exist anymore.

Posted by: Sarahw at November 21, 2010 12:31 AM (Z4T49)

45 On RapeScan, it turns out that the image is just a graphic file with the colors inverted. With one click in most graphics programs, including free programs, you can revert the colors to normal.

It turns out RapeScan is pretty much "X-Ray Vision" goggles in full-HD color, including the junk.

Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:31 AM (DetbD)

46 OT, but how come I don't get the italics/ bold/ underline and hyperlink options here in Google Chrome they way I do in IE?

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 21, 2010 12:32 AM (86FvD)

47 This is what happens when the person who should be asking if you want fries with that is in charge of security.

Posted by: huerfano at November 21, 2010 12:33 AM (QgmBR)

48 i am sure that many of them are hard working decent people who are just following orders.

"I was only following orders" didn't cut it at Nuremberg. Just sayin'

Posted by: Lone Marauder at November 21, 2010 12:34 AM (po5rq)

49 42 lone marauder

well on drudge they have the lady who had to take her prosthetic breast out...she was a former stewardess...the double leg amputee that had to have her prosthetic legs removed.....now the guy with the urine bag....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:34 AM (eOXTH)

50 One other thing. They have "heightened security checks" that are purely random. Thus they occasionally have a "heightened security check" with additional groping for grandma, cancer survivors with catheters hanging out, and little kids.

This is Obama's plan.


Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:34 AM (DetbD)

51 I don't want to sound like a jackass, but in all honesty, a nude body scan and groping in public is exactly the kind of thing that now seems normal in a society with homosexual "marriage" and the like.

Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:35 AM (DetbD)

52 Oh, and the nude body scans wouldn't actually have stopped Abdullmutallab, the Xmas bomber.

Profiling would have.

Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:37 AM (DetbD)

53 The system worked.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at November 21, 2010 12:37 AM (mdxTy)

54 46 OT, but how come I don't get the italics/ bold/ underline and hyperlink options here in Google Chrome they way I do in IE?
Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 21, 2010 12:32 AM (86FvD)
Is your Javascript enabled?...the text formatting options need Javascript. I'm running IE9 beta but need to run it in 'compatibility mode' to get it to work on Ace's New Comments Thingy

Posted by: CanaDave at November 21, 2010 12:37 AM (XXRI4)

55 why would we think these people are hard working? hard working at what? inconveniencing people? i want to see the stats of muslims getting pulled out of line for tighter screening..... watch groups should be set up to watch these creeps on the job and document what they are doing

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2010 12:38 AM (eOXTH)

56 Totally Shitty Attitude, that's more than our name, it's our mission.

Posted by: TSAsshole at November 21, 2010 12:39 AM (5WIoO)

57 The looks on the faces of these TSA people, not all, but many look very arrogant. They have the power and they are going to use it.

TSA: Mohammed from Saudi Arabia, go on through.

TSA: Jenny Smith, catholic nun from Wyoming, I have to feel your breasts.

Posted by: Dan at November 21, 2010 12:39 AM (1jzSs)

58 I am noticing from these videos that it does not look like they change gloves each time.

So if they are feeling inside your pants or in other areas, they could be spreading bacteria like crazy to each new person.

Posted by: Dan at November 21, 2010 12:40 AM (1jzSs)

59 This groping is useless and unnecessary. We only do it cause we get off on it. That and wasting your tax money.

Posted by: TSAsshole at November 21, 2010 12:41 AM (5WIoO)

60 One more thing. Remember the mandatory health insurance? Well, to get the government-run pool health insurance that you'll need after your employer cancels its company plan, you will first have to strip for a government doctor and let them do a full medical exam on you, with anal probe.

Thank you, gay marriage + Obama.

Posted by: Onlooker at November 21, 2010 12:41 AM (DetbD)

61 It's ridiculous. One of our fellow morons saw a picture on
this site the other night of his dad
being groped by TSA because he wears a leg brace. A friend of mine is stopped every trip
through the airport because she wears orthotics due to her rheumatoid
arthritis. Is the plan to harass sick people to death?

Posted by: huerfano at November 21, 2010 12:45 AM (QgmBR)

62 52 Oh, and the nude body scans wouldn't actually have stopped Abdullmutallab, the Xmas bomber. Profiling would have.
As I recall, he was escorted on the plane by a man in a suit, after talking Amsterdam airport security into letting him board without a passport, etc.

So, we have to suffer because the Muzzie appeasing shits across the pond fukked up.

Posted by: Drillanwr at November 21, 2010 12:45 AM (NcSGp)

63 61 Is the plan to harass sick people to death?
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Carousel! RENEW! RENEW!

Posted by: Anachronda at November 21, 2010 12:47 AM (6fER6)

64 How our Government employees turned into clones of the apparatchiks who used to load the trains to Siberia is a mystery to me. Well maybe not a mystery, but still a bitch.

Is there an "I Hate Government" app?

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 21, 2010 12:48 AM (Z6Mgb)

65 Ann Althouse says follow the money trail and timeline on this crap. http://tinyurl.com/29l4x7z

Posted by: Drillanwr at November 21, 2010 12:50 AM (NcSGp)

66 A friend in Tucson sent me a local advertisement recruiting agents for TSA. Starting pay is $16.25 an hour. Works out to $650 a week or $33,500 a year.
But if you're a pervert, the job comes with "benefits".

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 21, 2010 12:51 AM (3ESDJ)

67
Has anyone wondered why terrorists are only interested in blowing up planes? There are plenty of other places where they can terrorize us. Trains, buses, subways, cruises, and stadiums for example. Why haven't they employed the TSA there yet and installed scanners and follow the same invasive body searches? Are the terrorists going to wait until we are prepared? NOT. The whole War on Terror thing is a fraud, just like the War on Drugs. It's all about some corrupt decadent people getting rich at the expense of honest hard working law abiding citizens. The real terrorists are the elitist politicians and the investors in these white elephant security systems. Wednesday November 24, is OPT OUT DAY. Tell the TSA you are not a farm animal to be prodded and probed and scanned. What's next, branding irons? In the end there will only be Kratos. ITYKWIM.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 21, 2010 12:56 AM (1rflU)

68 Just got back from a trip to Mexico. The TSA people were fine, but the whole process has me agreeing with the Kid from Brooklyn: get rid of airport security and just hand everyone a baseball bat as they board the plane.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at November 21, 2010 12:57 AM (wb/re)

69 The TSA is just begging to be smacked down, defund asap.

Posted by: KG at November 21, 2010 12:58 AM (2pDBV)

70 But remember people are going to be more tolerant to this sort of stuff than they ever would be to having Dogs wandering around and potentially being asked a few questions by trained professionals.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 12:59 AM (oVQFe)

71 #65 - not just Chertoff, Rapescan is a wholly owned subsidiary of OSI, a Soros company. Apparently Soros sold his stock a couple of days ago. So...yeah, follow the money.

Man, I so HATE it that so much of the conspiracy shit is true. And it's not the good stuff. I'd rather have the aliens.

Posted by: Less at November 21, 2010 12:59 AM (PGXeZ)

72
>>70
But remember people are going to be more tolerant to this sort of stuff
than they ever would be to having Dogs wandering around and potentially
being asked a few questions by trained professionals.


The Israeli method called Behavior Pattern Recognition or BPR, has trained more than 100 Mass. state police troopers who provide security inside and around the airport. The troopers are part of aviation security for the
Massachusetts Port Authority (Massport-which owns and operates Logan.) are in a proactive mode, using their skills and training to observe passenger behavior.
Troopers look for people behaving in unusual ways. For example, troopers would question a person buttoned up in a trench coat on a 100-degree day. Troopers would also approach a person with no baggage buying a ticket at the international travel counter. There may be nothing wrong, but this behavior would attract their attention.

Troopers interview people who catch their attention. Questions include the purpose of the person’s visit to Boston and his or her destination. Along the way, troopers ask for identification and check the person’s ticket and passport. Troopers are trained to handle interviews in a friendly manner, designed both to avoid giving offense and to put interviewees at ease and off guard.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 21, 2010 01:08 AM (1rflU)

73 Real people? Huh?

Posted by: John S at November 21, 2010 01:09 AM (bBaKR)

74 Posted by: sickinmass at November 21, 2010 01:08 AM (1rflU)
I should add that I'm being sarcastic and repeating the idea some idiot has put forth in previous threads about the TSA that the enhanced pat downs and scanners are just hunkydoory and that using dogs or trained people to ask questions would just be absolutely intolerable to the public.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 01:14 AM (oVQFe)

75 There is absolutely NO defense at this point of the random screenings by the scanner or patdown, none.

Say its 1 out of 100 people that get checked.

We are to believe that a random check of 1 out of a hundred (leaving 99 to walk right on through) is going to stop someone from blowing up a plane? If 100 terrorists walk through security at this rate, 1 plane gets saved while 99 landmarks crash to the ground. There is no "this makes us safe" defense, whatsoever at this point and the sheep who bleat "I feel safer" should volunteer for rectal screenings and vaginal exams, as that will be the inevitable next step.

Posted by: CAC at November 21, 2010 01:14 AM (lV4Fs)

76 Drillanwr, I put your link in the sidebar.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2010 01:16 AM (Xd/l+)

77 These abuses - and they are abuses - have to stop. A perhaps initially well-intentioned policy has failed. A sane federal government would reappraise and adjust. The fact that it's digging in its heels instead is a sign that insanity is prevailing.

Is there nothing it can do right?!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 21, 2010 01:18 AM (swuwV)

78 Has anyone wondered why terrorists are only interested in blowing up planes? There are plenty of other places where they can terrorize us. Trains, buses, subways, cruises, and stadiums for example.
I think you forgot one. How about airports? I'm just waiting for the day these jackasses decide to not bother trying to get on the plane and just blow their charges while standing in line for the screening.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 01:29 AM (oVQFe)

79 I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but another downside of this new policy is that instead of 4 or so lines to pass through, like I usually see at airports, this is another bottleneck where everyone is funneled to one check. More slow down.

Posted by: Randy at November 21, 2010 01:32 AM (GtTYq)

80 OK folks this is all political theatre.
Such an outrageous and over the top abuse and violation of 4th amendment concerns can only be a foil.
Obama, "outraged by these flagrant abuses" will rise up and proclaim that as the saviour of the little man he is putting an end to all this
Hail our Savior the People's Friend!!!
Approval ratings through the roof as he shows he IS the dream-man we all voted for!!! He saves Christmas from the (TSA)Grinch!!!
I mean come on a mannequin's head could easily be superimposed on the scanner images.
But why do so without milking the situation for political gain?
Create a crisis, and then ride in as the conquering hero.

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2010 01:43 AM (UMNUQ)

81 58 I am noticing from these videos that it does not look like they change gloves each time. So if they are feeling inside your pants or in other areas, they could be spreading bacteria like crazy to each new person.

***************************

Ahh, but the beauty of it is, THEY are protected, while we can all go fend off chlamydiaand herpes ourselves.

Posted by: effinayright at November 21, 2010 01:46 AM (HtavU)

82 The TSA is a top down stucture and the rules are written so that the people carrying them out are not allowed to make exceptions or decisions based on their personal judgement.
I don't give a shit how the rules are written. Nothing justifies what was done to this man. If I was a TSA agent and the rules stated everyone gets frisked, you can bet your bottom dollar that my frisking of this guy wouldn't involve dislodging his urine bag.
And if I did, because of my ignorance and my mistake? You can bet I'd be falling over myself to apologize and trying to right my wrong.
Nobody, and I mean nobody takes away my authority to use my personal judgement on cases this egrious.

Posted by: ed at November 21, 2010 01:50 AM (QLhy5)

83
Who is setting and monitoring the power of these scanners? TSA can adjust them, just as they can adjust the sensitivity of the metal detectors. Set too high, the 'low levels of radiation' can become high levels. TSA agents could decide to zap people they didn't like - or attempt to sterilize racial groups they do not like. Also are these safe for pregnant women, babies and small children?

Posted by: sickinmass at November 21, 2010 01:52 AM (1rflU)

84 DAve: "Obama, 'outraged by these flagrant abuses' will rise up and proclaim
that as the saviour of the little man he is putting an end to all this..."

That's an interesting thesis and the exploitation of crises is an Obama/Axelrod/Emmanual specialty; however, it's Obama's TSA that's doing this. Furthermore, he hasn't jumped out in front to condemn the downside of an increasingly questionable policy. While the MFM will offer the "conquering hero" narrative, I think normal Americans will say, "Look, you shithead! It was your plan with your backing that instigated the national scan and grope!"

So far Obama's answer has been the ever aloof, "Well, I'm President so I don't have to go through this stuff, so... um... I can't really feel your pain. But suck it up, Buttercups, for the children."

The aloof descriptor will cement Obama even further outside of the American experience even if he tries the crisis routine.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 21, 2010 01:57 AM (swuwV)

85 "As soon as Mr. Sawyer said the words "medical condition," someone should have snapped out of auto-pilot and listened to him before continuing. Not everyone flying is in the same situation. It's not an assembly line. These are real people."
Yes I agree. Except that we have a 4th Amentment right against unwarrented search and seizure.
This should happen to nobody without a warrent.
Where is their warrent? Please ask for the warrent when you go to the airport.
I guess that makes a kook. Standing up for our unalienable rights is now kookieness.
Whatever. That is where I stand.

Posted by: Repeal at November 21, 2010 02:08 AM (8xwyL)

86 This is really out-of-control. The man in question was brushed-off when he tried to tell the TSA screeners about his medical condition, then they do such a horrible thing and they don't even apologize? These people are incompetent, unsympathetic, uncaring, and disrespectful.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby, disappointed UT fan at November 21, 2010 02:08 AM (yfJ6g)

87 Forgot to fix my SN; sorry.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 02:09 AM (yfJ6g)

88 Can any morons help me out here?
I remember a couple of weeks ago Janet Napolitano was giving a briefing and demonstration of the new ASI scanners. To show us proles how safe and private they were. That we had nothing to fear from images of our naked bodies being stored and viewed by unauthorized people.
And then someone asked if she, Janet Napolitano would be getting scanned by these machines in this demonstration.
And she said "No."
Which immediately made me think that her assertations of the security of our private images carried less weight than she wished.
Anyone else remember this?
Or is it all part of the daily fever fugue that is my life....

Posted by: ed at November 21, 2010 02:12 AM (QLhy5)

89 ed: "Anyone else remember this?"

Yes. She swore they were considered safe/effective yet refused to volunteer for the scan to set an example.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 21, 2010 02:27 AM (swuwV)

90 oh wtf, cancer survivor cries over a few love taps and a sprinkle of urine. who the hell does he think he is, speaker of the house boehner? man up, missy. hell, lance armstrong had cancer too, but did he start crying like he just won miss america-- hell no!


Posted by: befuddled at November 21, 2010 02:53 AM (xJU23)

91 TheTSA over-reached whileforcibly giving thepublica reacharound.
If these are not ureasonable searches.. what are? I don't recall people in Soviet-bloc countries getting this blanket level of abuse. Still, our Bulgarian programmer says this place is getting more and more like his home country in the old days. And that's not good.
Umm... should pregnant women be going through these scanners? How about women who don't know their pregnant. Doctors avoid X-rays for pregnant women and all X-ray forms ask women if they're pregnant or think they are.

Posted by: theCork at November 21, 2010 02:53 AM (+EkO5)

92 I'm avoiding flying while this is going on and everyone I know is doing the same. I don't want my balls squeezed by the TSA/NKVD. I don't want an $11 thousand dollar fine because I refuse to have my balls squeezed. I wonder if this will have an effect applied across the whole country?

Posted by: theCork at November 21, 2010 02:57 AM (+EkO5)

93 (cleaned up)

Posted by: Alex at November 21, 2010 03:05 AM (yY28H)

94 I am so speechless...if I had been there I might have started crying as well. This is unacceptable on so many levels and infuriates me so much.

Posted by: Chloe at November 21, 2010 03:07 AM (Q3lN0)

95 Well... just look at the side bar. The TSA decided to strip search a five year old little boy.
Sweet Christ...

Posted by: ed at November 21, 2010 03:17 AM (QLhy5)

96 The only way this will end is if the American people suck it up, and refuse to fly for any reason. A full boycott of the airlines is the only way that you will see a change.

Posted by: Alex at November 21, 2010 03:23 AM (yY28H)

97 Fuck the fucking fuckers.

This poor guy. And he's no over-sensitive whacked out crackpot who freaked out for no reason; he's just a guy next door who was humiliated FOR NO REASON. He makes me think of my dad, and when I think of someone doing this to my father... well... fuck the fucking fuckers.

We may have reached the tipping point on the TSA. People may actually stand for-- hell, even demand-- Israeli-style security now, PC be damned.

Posted by: Filly at November 21, 2010 04:40 AM (E0Ljm)

98 I would love to know the criteria for getting hired as a TSA agent. Do you have to pass any kind of test? Are we basically hiring persons with the same ability and attitude as what you encounter at the Post Office and the DMV? Looks like it to me.

Posted by: Chris at November 21, 2010 05:15 AM (B/WwP)

99 I forwarded this story to my wife. She's lost her colon to cancer four weeks ago and is an ostomy patient herself now.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 21, 2010 05:36 AM (HBTr7)

100 The guy hasn't been humiliated enough? You have to post his picture online?

...oh, I see...because MSNBC did it....cause they are the arbiters of decency and grace. Take his pic down.

Posted by: Common Decency at November 21, 2010 06:03 AM (2+X4m)

101 The solution is obvious, disband the TSA and go back to private screening and common sense rules that we had in place before. Except this time make the private contractors responsible for catching the terrorist and allow them to develop their own methods.

As I recall the "terrorists" on 9-11 were all able to do what they did because (1) government agents ignored warnings (2) Government agents were not allowed to search a known terrorist's laptop (3) Lax immigration rules allowed thousands of terrorists in the country through virtually non-existent screening of visas.

In short, the flying public was not the problem, it is the government that is the problem.

Eliminate the TSA, eliminate the DHS, fire everyone in the State Department and hire people who can think to replace them. Close down the "visa shops" in the middle east, and especially Saudi Arabia..

Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2010 06:24 AM (e4sSD)

102 What ever happened to Live Free or Die?

Posted by: sTevo at November 21, 2010 06:56 AM (VMcEw)

103 What ever happened to Live Free or Die?

Posted by: sTevo at November 21, 2010 06:56 AM (VMcEw)
That is only for NH.

Posted by: Vic at November 21, 2010 07:18 AM (e4sSD)

104 tic tock! Tic tock! The revolution grows closer! Unless Ovomit ends the Constitution arrests the Republican members of Congress, declares martial law November 6, 2012 is going to make the Nov. 2 electoralslaughter of democorrupts look like a warmup.
If the republic and the Constitution remainthe only democrats still in Congress will be the Black Caucus holding forth from racially gerrymandered districts, Manhattan and the Gay Bay.

Posted by: Old One at November 21, 2010 07:43 AM (QL6VB)

105 Common Decency, he's the one who provided the picture, you idiot. Learn to read.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 21, 2010 08:08 AM (Xd/l+)

106 TSA hired everybody and anybody. Some of these people are not fit to work at Walmart or any fast food restuarant.

Posted by: Mark at November 21, 2010 09:23 AM (E5xOv)

107 104 Ovomit is far too kind. IMNSHO, ALL TSA stupidvisors, that spokes scumbag Napolitano and 0vomit need to be arrested, tried convicted and sentenced to the worst state prison (thinking Parchman or Angola) for Life on the chain gang. And allow the victims to throw rotten eggs and tomatos at these scumbags.

Posted by: NotAMolly at November 21, 2010 09:24 AM (ADJFU)

108 And 0vomit and fellow felons have added a new level of depravity: Street scanning vans in the US. I hate it when the JBS is the voice of sanity.
http://tinyurl.com/26gguxw

Posted by: NotAMolly at November 21, 2010 09:39 AM (ADJFU)

109 Take his pic down.
Does that picture look like it was snapped by MSNBC or any other news organization? No, it looks like the kind of picture that the man himself might have provided to the news.
He's a cancer survivor, and now he's a TSA survivor. There is no shame in either. There is no shame in having an ostomy, all of the shame needs to fall on the TSA. Putting a face on what happened to him humanizes the inhumanity of TSA, I think he understands that, but perhaps you do not.
But we do need photos of the TSA drones - they need to be publicly shamed.

Posted by: HappyFifth at November 21, 2010 09:46 AM (UK5R1)

110 Here's a fruitful thought experiment for you all:

Do you think Obama would EVER let HIS daughters get felt up in a TSA line?

Then you appreciate how far superior he feels "his people" are to you

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2010 09:53 AM (UMNUQ)

111 Notice how it's easier to sneak into this country than it is to fly to Granma's for Thanksgiving??

Posted by: DAve at November 21, 2010 09:56 AM (UMNUQ)

112 Ace, he's not human anymore and neither are the rest of us, that is abundantly clear.
It doesn't matter if he has urine running down his abdomen or old women have their vulvas squeezed. If young children get groped in a way that has never ever happened to them and get taught that their bodies are not private. That cancer survivors are told to whip out their fake breasts to prove that they're not bombs...
No, we are not human anymore. We're cattle, we're sheep. We're slaves standing on a wooden dock while a government official pries back our lips to show that we have good teeth.
I'm not kidding.
As to this: "Something I am NOT hearing in all of this ... I assume the TSA is getting some general training in operating the Rapiscan machines. Minimal (hours/days) at best. But I happen to know it's at least a 2 years' worth of college for an AS degree in X-ray technology, and a 4 years for a BS degree. Then you take the exam and if you pass you get a license. Can we see the TSA "papers please"? Because these people are operating macines that are not supposed to be "toasters", for crissakes!"
Posted by: Drillanwr at November 21, 2010 12:02 AM (NcSGp)
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As an RN, I was there in my head about this days ago. They're not xray techs. They're not getting training in the physics and physiology of what they're doing. They have no clue as to how to operate those things or what could go wrong or why. They're being told to have the person stand a particular way and pushing a button. They're not wearing radiation badges and woudln't know a rad from their assholes. They have no clue as to the implications of doing this to another human being nor the risk of their own repeated exposure.
And under ANY other life circumstance they would be required to be educated and licensed and regulated like a dog and would risk prosecution if they didn't comply with the rules.
Piece of advice from me? Don'tloiter around those machines for any length of time. You have no idea if they're working properly, what the field of concern is around it as a result. You could be exposed even if you aren't inside of it. Also please notice any TSA doofus hanging around really close to it. THAT will tell you how 'trained' they are.
Trained techs go behind shielded walls before they scan you.

Posted by: JR at November 21, 2010 10:06 AM (DEQXX)

113 14
I have a urostomy bag.


I am not surprised to hear a story like this.


I am dreading having to fly.


ileosotmy here, I feel the same outrage. And these scanners WILL pick it up, happened to me in Tampa but it before the enhanced pat downs. The TSA guy was actually cool about it.

Posted by: NY Conservative at November 21, 2010 10:07 AM (P2T20)

114 Someone observed not so long ago that Israeli airport security is designed to catch and stop terrorists from boarding the planes. American airport security is designed to piss off the travellers.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at November 21, 2010 10:17 AM (EhYdw)

115 Another reason for Obamacare and death panels: This guy wouldn't even be alive to complain!

Posted by: Soulless libtard at November 21, 2010 10:18 AM (86FvD)

116 Defund the TSA. Set the budget to 0. They make us no safer than the old metal detector + X-Ray for luggage, solet's go back to that, with no lines. More people die avoiding air travel (car travel isn't so safe, especially around the holidays) than are killed by terrorists. The TSA doesn't just destroy our dignity, it actually makes us less safe.
If the Tea Party freshmencan't take up this cause, with the combination of protecting basic rights and a chance to defund agovernment program no one will miss, then what good are they?

Posted by: lgw at November 21, 2010 11:12 AM (sab84)

117 You can't professionalize unless you unionize.

Posted by: Congressional Democrats in 2002 at November 21, 2010 11:39 AM (0quA8)

118 Here's something worth considering:
The Rapiscan is linked to your photograph. Your address. Credit Card info, identification info, etc.
It also has the capacity to identify particular medical conditions. Like urostomy, colostomy, braces, insulin pumps, pacemakers...
Is it impossible to use this as a medical screener? With the new Obamacare, bet this 'feature' is coming.
'Uh, the scanner says you have clogged arteries. You can't buy a Big Mac.'

Posted by: Nimrod1176 at November 21, 2010 11:55 AM (kexQn)

119 The only good thing is that these TSA assholes are being dosed with radiation multiple times a day. They WILL get cancer from their work.

The bad thing is the lawsuit that will come from this and not only will the taxpayer be accosted and like it, they will have to pay the settlement for all the stricken TSA workers.

Not a single study on Jerkoff Chertoff's RAPEiScan products and their long term exposure effect.

The TSA and frequent flyers are guinea pigs.

Posted by: Frequent Flyer #9 at November 21, 2010 12:02 PM (7cXE7)

120 Where's Tom Daschle in all this? He and Chertoff both need swift kicks to the nads.

Posted by: Mister Christopher at November 21, 2010 12:28 PM (KyR3d)

121 #30. I mentioned in another site that I would wear a burka every time I fly. I think all women and men should get one and waltz onto the plane. I'm not sure they are giving the mulsim women a pass yet, but if they do here come the burkas.
That poor man must have been humiliated. I think we should all follow suit, however. Wear some old clothes to the airport and have the same result. Change in the plane! And since the bussiest season is coming up let's all refuse body scans and see how the tsa likes it.

Posted by: Brandi at November 21, 2010 12:49 PM (v3dNM)

122 Uh, the Rapescanner gets linked with corporate America. When you are discovered having any kind of medical condition by it, you get pulled out of line, your plane ticket is canceled, and you are laid off from your job due to 'lack of work'.

Posted by: torabora at November 21, 2010 12:50 PM (qKBl0)

123 LGW, if we can't have israeli-style intelligent security, that's the next most reasonable thing.

Agree - if can't destroy agency directly, defund it.

Posted by: SarahW at November 21, 2010 12:51 PM (Z4T49)

124 As a Brit I'm watching this stuff with a certain amount of amazement. For years my American friends have rightly commented on the slow decline of Britain into a politically correct, dhimmi state BUT this kind of thing would never happen at British airports. The fact that the American government is humiliating children, the handicapped, the infirm, the pregnant and the elderly rather than allow profiling at US airports is beyond belief. What the hell is going to happen after the first JIhadist with explosives in his rectum (or her vagina) is discovered? Please tell me that Americans will at least make a stand against full body cavity searches. On recent evidence it doesn't look like they will. You're our last best hope...what is happening over there ?

Posted by: David Jay at November 21, 2010 12:52 PM (/DTlV)

125 118 Here's something worth considering:The Rapiscan is linked to your photograph. Your address. Credit Card info, identification info, etc.It also has the capacity to identify particular medical conditions. Like urostomy, colostomy, braces, insulin pumps, pacemakers...Is it impossible to use this as a medical screener? With the new Obamacare, bet this 'feature' is coming.'Uh, the scanner says you have clogged arteries. You can't buy a Big Mac.'


How about if just the privacy information is floating around, it's a MASSIVE HIPPA VIOLATION.

Posted by: JR at November 21, 2010 01:07 PM (DEQXX)

126 Defund TSA NOW.

Posted by: NotAMolly at November 21, 2010 01:33 PM (ADJFU)

127

Normal
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It has been suggested TSA adopt the Israeli passenger screening methods
that rely on the intelligent and experienced screeners to ask passengers
questions, so passengers are not needlessly subjected to humiliating body
searches and X-ray scans. It should be noted Israel is a small country with few
commercial airports compared to America. Israel can staff its limited airports
with a sufficient number of educated/intelligent interrogators to screen air
passengers; TSA on the other hand is hiring the extreme opposite. TSA screeners
appear short on education, interrogation skills and some apparently lack the
ability to think and solve simple problems. It is questionable whether U.S.
Taxpayers could afford the costs to pay Israeli educated level and experienced
screeners at most American airports. Meanwhile, millions of Americans are
revolting, won’t stand for being stripped naked/ invasive pat downs and
touching by current level TSA screeners and or radiated by X-ray scans every
time they fly; problematic in the future to include taking a bus, train and
stops at TSA vehicle check points. TSA’s mistreatment, humiliation and general
abrasive handling of Americans at airports, may be a portent to Americans
(next) getting a Boot in their face if they refuse to be stripped searched or
x-rayed before boarding—any form of public transportation.


Another problem with TSA strip-searching and X-raying Citizens, is that
it can be used by the government in power to selectively target individuals
that lawfully speak out or write against U.S. Government, harassing targeted
Citizens at every mode of transportation with relentless body searches,
pat-downs and X-ray scans to the point Americans will be reluctant or afraid to
travel anywhere by plane, bus or drive their vehicle on the street because of
TSA Check Points. In Northern Ireland not many years ago, it was alleged
numerous times over decades that British soldiers at roadway vehicle check
points, waved Irish Catholics though, then machine gunned the occupants
claiming the vehicle failed to stop. Irish Catholic communities protested and
complained. The Northern Ireland British Government would call a committee to
investigate taking 18-months to determine cause of death. In the interim
another alleged British atrocity would take place against Catholics
overshadowing prior killings and alleged false arrests and imprisonments.
Catholics traveling were intentionally harassed by British troops and police at
highway check points, forced to submit to humiliating searches; political activists
were delayed or taken away so they could not drive to a political meeting or
speak at an event that opposed British polices. Could U.S. Citizens be
similarly targeted e.g., Tea Party Members, anti-war activists and others after
TSA overseen by Homeland Security, extends its body searches and X-ray scans of
passengers, boarding trains, buses and at vehicle check points?

Posted by: Rwolf at November 21, 2010 03:03 PM (roTtc)

128 "In Northern Ireland not many years ago, it was alleged
numerous times over decades that British soldiers at roadway vehicle check
points, waved Irish Catholics though, then machine gunned the occupants
claiming the vehicle failed to stop."

Allegations are different from facts...how many times did this actually happen ? To put things in perspective this was a time when the cypto-Marxist IRA were blowing up churches, town squares and pubs, executing innocent civilians, knee-capping fellow Catholics and torturing to death so called "informants". The Troubles in Northern Ireland are nothing like what the TSA is trying to do to average Americans.

Posted by: David Jay at November 21, 2010 04:18 PM (/DTlV)

129 This is why I don't fly or even go to the airport. I have a defribillater/pacemaker inserted in my chest. I have feared that some ignorant nut in the TSA would wave that wand over me completely ignoring my protests. That wand would mess up the program in that device and I would wind up in the hospital again.I have been cautionedby me doctor and the makers of the device to warn the TSA not to wave the wand over me. These people are not qualified for these jobs. They are arrogant but ignorant no it alls as witnessed by this post's incident. They don't care if they humiliate passengers. This incident should never have happened and if the TSA had staff with an IQ over 40, they would have known better.

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130 Fire somebody. Make an example, and change the rules.
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