Carl Paladino: "Nothing To Be Proud of In Being a Dysfunctional Homosexual"

Pretty short for a concession speech, really.

Well at least we'll have a test-case for how unapologetic red-meat social conservatism plays in the blue states.

This is a guy, meanwhile, who had a child out of wedlock while married to his wife, so you would expect him to have more of a hate-the-sin-love-the-sinner approach to deviations from the sexual ideal. But, again, it's easiest to knock those sins you yourself are incapable of.

Bad Timing, Too: NYC arraigns 8 gang-bangers (in the Latin King Goonies -- yeah, the Goonies) in anti-gay torture case.

Posted by: Ace at 05:56 PM



Comments

1 This is a guy, meanwhile, who had a child out of wedlock while married
to his wife, so you would expect him to have more of a
love-the-sin-hate-the-sinner approach to deviations from the sexual
ideal.
--I think you got St. Augustine's formulation backward.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2010 05:58 PM (BP6Z1)

2 he was going down anyway - he's kinda the Alan Grayson of the conservative movement. Like Grayson, I think Palodino is a few fries short of a happy meal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2010 05:59 PM (wk1nH)

3 "love-the-sin-hate-the-sinner"

A little backwards, don't you think?

Posted by: Darin H at October 10, 2010 05:59 PM (oKXIF)

4 Well at least we'll have a test-case for how unapologetic red-meat social conservatism plays in the blue states.

Well red-meat social conservatism won't play in NY but I'm not even sure that's what Paladino is. He's more or less just a big mouthed asshole. Usually, that does play well in NY but generally not when running for Governor.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 10, 2010 06:01 PM (HicGG)

5 "Nothing To Be Proud of In Being a Dysfunctional Homosexual"

Now, being a functional homosexual is another matter altogether.

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 10, 2010 06:01 PM (gzjhZ)

6 well sin is kinda fun, (if we can close our eyes to a high power)but i think this is an argument we don't wanna have.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:02 PM (wJUMn)

7 sorry, have to say it. it's another example of the "tea party" getting something wrong, albeit a rarity that they get it wrong

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:02 PM (xQuuU)

8 Well, it would have been even worse if he had had a child out of wedlock while married to someone else's wife. So there's that.

Posted by: Sockpuppet Czar at October 10, 2010 06:03 PM (VHjoZ)

9 Obviously, the gays were trying to steal our seat so the gang was forced to act.

Posted by: loretta sanchez at October 10, 2010 06:03 PM (oLT/p)

10 well his emails seemed sorta ace of spades ont like, not quite ok for mainstream. he should have known better running for office.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:04 PM (wJUMn)

11
What if his wife had a child out of wedlock while she was married to his mistress?

Posted by: eman at October 10, 2010 06:05 PM (zjx6L)

12 well sin is kinda fun, (if we can close our eyes to a high power)but i think this is an argument we don't wanna have.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:02 PM (wJUMn)
Agreed. Most peoples' minds are made up on this subject, and the pendulum is swinging decisively one way. It's unnecessarily polarizing

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:05 PM (c1oyg)

13 @7 it's another example of the "tea party" getting something wrong, albeit a rarity that they get it wrong.

See also: Dan Maes gubernatorial campaign in Colorado.

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 10, 2010 06:05 PM (gzjhZ)

14 he voters should have known better running for office then voting for him.
FIFY

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:06 PM (xQuuU)

15 You idiots actually think youll win big in november? Instead of getting red states youll get red ass!

Posted by: denny crane at October 10, 2010 06:06 PM (7+pP9)

16 Red meat social conservatism plays well in western NY, where Paladino is still out polling Cuomo. The problem is the NYC area.

Posted by: Chris R at October 10, 2010 06:07 PM (AO4qz)

17 I no longer care whom they fuck or don't fuck, whom they find perverse or normal, and how many bottles of Valu-Rite they belt back at the end of the day. If they will work hard to dismantle the monstrous, money-sucking machine known as the federal government, they'll get my votes and dollars.

Posted by: kathysayso at October 10, 2010 06:07 PM (7nu1g)

18 7 Include Delaware on that list.

Posted by: Chris R at October 10, 2010 06:08 PM (AO4qz)

19
Looks like denny found a Snickers under his bed.

Posted by: eman at October 10, 2010 06:08 PM (zjx6L)

20 eman, so a fickle lesbian relationship that resulted inchild of wife and mistress an someones man? i'd think that would be a winner.a threesome?
every guys dream right? just say they were all in the know.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:08 PM (wJUMn)

21 Monumentally stupid, and frankly hateful.

I wouldn't vote for him.

It pisses me off that this will hurt DioGuardi even more and that the NY GOP is still such a bunch of moronic dumbasses.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 06:08 PM (RC7LR)

22 @18

better not to open that can of worms.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (RC7LR)

23 Agreed. Most peoples' minds are
made up on this subject, and the pendulum is swinging decisively one
way. It's unnecessarily polarizing


Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:05 PM (c1oyg)
We're working on that.

Posted by: Sharia Law Jihad Hustlers at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (BP6Z1)

24 Posted by: Chris R at October 10, 2010 06:07 PM (AO4qz)
unfortunately in the past NY was a swing state but has gone full blown blue since upsate NY has immigrated out of the state, leaving the NYC area to basically run the state, my relatives in NY despise that an Island that doesn't represent the majority of the state has so much power over who governs it and who it elects President

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (xQuuU)

25 kathy, I'm pretty well on same page. just let it out before election so they cannot be blackmailed

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (wJUMn)

26 every guys dream right? just say they were all in the know.

Posted by: willow

Keep going, keep going.

Posted by: eman at October 10, 2010 06:10 PM (zjx6L)

27 He's right but he comes across as harsh and judgmental, not loving and supportive as Christians are supposed to.

Nobody gets homosexuality right. Liberals treat it like its great and most Christians treat it like you have one foot in hell already.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at October 10, 2010 06:10 PM (cxGtL)

28 New York Republicans are an interesting lot.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 10, 2010 06:10 PM (Y81Xa)

29 Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (RC7LR)
I wanted to say DE too but I wanna stay away from that can of worms myself

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:10 PM (xQuuU)

30 Andrew Cuomo has to be one lucky SOB.

First, Spitzer and Patterson implode in the space of 3 years. Then Rudy doesn't get in the race. And to top it off, Cuomo gets to run against a jackass least likely to offer anything resembling a series challenge.

Oh well, that's life for Republicans in NY.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 10, 2010 06:11 PM (HicGG)

31 better not to open that can of worms.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 06:09 PM (RC7LR)
But....I'm not a witch. I'm you.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at October 10, 2010 06:11 PM (c1oyg)

32 Red meat social conservatism plays well in western NY, where Paladino is still out polling Cuomo. The problem is the NYC area.
Plays well here in upstate NY too.

Posted by: NY Betsy Rose at October 10, 2010 06:11 PM (3yMCG)

33
Does the gang have a member named Chunk?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2010 06:14 PM (2O5Hd)

34 Ombudsman-
not trying to be a smartaleck, but there is an inconsistency in your statement. If people's minds are made up, how can the pendulum be swinging? Which do you think is correct?

Posted by: pep at October 10, 2010 06:14 PM (8zlLq)

35 Well at least we'll have a test-case for how unapologetic red-meat social conservatism plays in the blue states.

Someone please throw a dart at a map of New York, get a phonebook of whatever city you hit, drop it square on the floor, jab your finger somewhere on the page, and call that person and ask whether they're R or D. If R, draft them immediately for NY governor. If D, repeat this process until an R is reached.

This could be a test-case for how random candidate-hunting plays in blue states. I wouldn't mind trying it in California.

Posted by: arhooley at October 10, 2010 06:15 PM (QGlfl)

36 Ombudsman-
what I find interesting is that while the pro gay marriage/rights/etc. issues have seen a bounce towards them, pro life has also seen a bounce towards it's side, it's interesting to see one conservative social issue they could rely on the country agreeing with them with getting away from them and another that the country disagreed w/ them on suddenly a popular thing

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:17 PM (xQuuU)

37
I like finding these old gems.

“I believe that the transaction tax still has a great deal of merit. The concern that many of us or others have had
is that it will send, it will send transactions overseas. Well,
let's see, the fact is, what we are talking about is a global
transaction [tax], something that we would do in conjunction
with other G nations, whether it is G8, G20, whatever the current G
number is. Because it is really a source of revenue that has really
minimal impact on the transaction, but a tremendous impact on helping us
meet our needs.”

Nancy Pelosi, tax policy genius
December, 2009

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2010 06:17 PM (AvO0L)

38 eman, i'm so stressed out about fiscal and foreign crud i could care less about who's gay and who'shaving a menege a trios or an affair.
just put there so it can't kill us.
o. i'll say shame on them if it will make everyone feel better.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:19 PM (wJUMn)

39 Ombudsman-not trying to be a smartaleck, but
there is an inconsistency in your statement. If people's minds are made
up, how can the pendulum be swinging? Which do you think is correct?

Posted by: pep at October 10, 2010 06:14 PM (8zlLq)
I meant that for those who have thought about it, their minds are made up. But we have a generation of Americans coming of age who know gay people- they have a gay sibling, cousin, co-worker. And they realize that they don't have horns and a tail.The worst thing for the Gay Rights movement is those San Francisco parades with the guys dressed like nuns. If they want acceptance, they should be guys in business suits.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at October 10, 2010 06:20 PM (c1oyg)

40 I see nothing in what he said that turns a hair on my head either way. You people have the yips, and I can't take this circular firing squad seriously anymore.

Posted by: Kerry's pink plaid netbook at October 10, 2010 06:20 PM (Z0EF7)

41 damned sock

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:21 PM (c1oyg)

42 oh yeah after christine's statement at 6:20 i would be quite bumbed if they had been seen at a gay pride parade in asschaps or nothing at all .

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:22 PM (wJUMn)

43 The worst thing for the Gay Rights movement is those San Francisco parades with the guys dressed like nuns. If they want acceptance, they should be guys in business suits.
this is 100% correct

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:25 PM (xQuuU)

44 GODDANM IT 1 FUCKING CUOMO WAS ENOUGH!


He's more or less just a big mouthed asshole. Usually, that does play well in NY but generally not when running for Governor.

It's OK if you're lib like Spitzer or Cuomo.
I dunno. The fact the Cuomo is even a viable candidate after all the shit he's caused is disgusting enough. Talk about total failure of the press. I personally think he's nervous. He's running alot of ads for a shoe-in. All Paladino has to do is show how Andy was directly involved in the real estate melt-down and how that ruined NY's economy in 30 seconds on TV and he has a chance. Probably not good, but the more he can tie Andy to corruption in DC and Albany the better.

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2010 06:25 PM (9221z)

45 Remember what Ace was saying about un-vetted candidates? Uh-huh.

Posted by: rdbrewer at October 10, 2010 06:26 PM (Tafh6)

46 dems lie, they are not socially caring, they slayed bristol for a child while un-married, they slay gay men all the time if they are republican, they slay black men as uncle toms,they slay women if they are not in Their party..they arer liars they hurt us all by division, don't allow it.stand on economic, smaller gvt. policy, let's mind our own business within our shuls and families.'
paladino is a jerk, vote for him anyway, we can control him more then a dem.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:27 PM (wJUMn)

47 Old Carl is a bit of bull riding loose cannon in a chinatown water closet, but I bet he'd be blast to drink whiskey with.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 10, 2010 06:29 PM (HBqDo)

48 Gay rights parades are a joke and I'm sure even they know that. Yes, there is the element there to spread awareness and all that shit but the people who dress up as nuns or in assless chaps (or nuns in assless chaps) are treating the event like Mardi Gras and a pre-party to whatever happens afterwards.
I could give a shit less about what gay people do but some of them are a mockery unto themselves.

Posted by: ErikW at October 10, 2010 06:30 PM (QX5Cj)

49 The worst thing for the Gay
Rights movement is those San Francisco parades with the guys dressed
like nuns. If they want acceptance, they should be guys in business
suits.

this is 100% correct

Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Commenter-Mad At The Rays For Playing With His Emotions) at October 10, 2010 06:25 PM (xQuuU)
I never understood why they go out of their way to offend the sensibilities of the very people they wish to persuade.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:31 PM (c1oyg)

50 Can we boot all New York Republicans out of the Republican Party? Between this guy and Scozzifava, it seemsthe whole party needs to be replaced.

Posted by: Mike at October 10, 2010 06:32 PM (p84N3)

51 I never understood why they go out of their way to offend the sensibilities of the very people they wish to persuade.
Because we have to tolerate them. They don't have to tolerate us.

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2010 06:33 PM (9221z)

52 Never thought about this, but aren't all chaps assless by definition? (Although it is kinda fun to say "assless")

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:34 PM (c1oyg)

53 He uses many colorful metaphors. I shall have to study him further.

Posted by: Spock at October 10, 2010 06:34 PM (Snu7z)

54 Ace:
Escape New York while you still can. NY and CA are turning into the two biggest laughingstocks the country has evern known. We like you, Ace, and we don't want to see you go down with the ship.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 10, 2010 06:34 PM (E97ku)

55
The Goonies, just more hard working Latinos doing the jobs Americans won't do.

-Ducks and covers-

Posted by: Nuncy Poplosi at October 10, 2010 06:35 PM (rMMMP)

56 Never thought about this, but aren't all chaps assless by definition? (Although it is kinda fun to say "assless")


Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:34 PM (c1oyg)

assless = sans blue jeans underneath.

Posted by: Spock at October 10, 2010 06:35 PM (Snu7z)

57
I dug up another Then Now vid showing the media bias in economic news. You might of already seen it, but watch it anyway so you know the facts.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2010 06:37 PM (AvO0L)

58 assless = sans blue jeans underneath.


Posted by: Spock at October 10, 2010 06:35 PM (Snu7z)
Oh... serves me right for living a sheltered life.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:37 PM (c1oyg)

59 Um, some tea partiershave made a bunch of mistakes this year. Instead of just endorsing Tarkanian and making Nevada an easy pickup, they decided to pick the most unpopularconservative in the state. They should stick to replacing RINOs withthe most conservative, sane choice in red statesand stop trying to turn places like Delaware into Mississippi.

Posted by: Mike at October 10, 2010 06:38 PM (p84N3)

60 I knew he'd say something like this, but I voted for him anyway. Lazio is too close to D'Amato, Pataki and everyone else who got rich off of the NY Republican Party. So fuck them sideways.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 10, 2010 06:38 PM (Ybol1)

61 I never understood why they go out of their way to offend the sensibilities of the very people they wish to persuade.

Yea, maybe there is a parallel to the Muzzies. I suspect that their more "flamboyant" (Islamofascist) members irritate the "regular" (Sunday go to mosque) folks quite a bit, but they don't want to be the nail that sticks up (gets blown up), so they all just clam up.

The obnoxious ones don't want your toleration, they want to wave their privates in your face and make you say thank you (convert).

Posted by: pep at October 10, 2010 06:38 PM (8zlLq)

62 Oh... serves me right for living a sheltered normal life.
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 06:37 PM (c1oyg)

FTFY

Posted by: ErikW at October 10, 2010 06:39 PM (QX5Cj)

63 Meh. Once Pataki and Rudy bowed out, it was lost. (and yet another reason that neither will ever get my vote in a primary. Be a party man, or don't.)

Posted by: toby928 at October 10, 2010 06:39 PM (S5YRY)

64 It pisses me off that this will hurt DioGuardi even more and that the NY GOP is still such a bunch of moronic dumbasses.


Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 06:08 PM (RC7LR)

Agreed, that's what irritates me most. I took it for granted already the guy was a goner and would be an embarrassment to the party if he did win. Yet it just keeps getting worse and worse.

The criticisms I laid against O'Donnell aside, I trade her for Paladino right now in a heartbeat.

Posted by: AD at October 10, 2010 06:39 PM (XlKZs)

65 Yes we should accept homosexuality as "normal" because it has a possible genetic component to it.
Oh and while we're at it we should also accept alcoholism, drug abuse, and all compulsive addictionsas "normal" alsosince it is believed that theyhave a genetic component as well.

Posted by: Let's all get LibTarded at October 10, 2010 06:40 PM (wFMDa)

66 And if you can't bet on New Orleans to beat the Cardinals, who can you bet on?

Posted by: toby928 at October 10, 2010 06:40 PM (S5YRY)

67 sorry, have to say it. it's another example of the "tea party" getting something wrong, albeit a rarity that they get it wrong
Well, if they're not perfect, I don't see how I'm going to be able to bring myself to vote in November.

Posted by: Average Mama AJ at October 10, 2010 06:41 PM (XdlcF)

68
Carl Paladino may insult some with his less than politically correct comment, but at last count, he never drove an Oldsmobile off a bridge resulting in the death of a young woman, or testified before Congress about war crimes that didn't happen, or sandwiched a waitress, or wore a white sheet, or lied to a Federal Magistrate, or stood before Congress at the State of the Union and lied like Obama.

Paladino isn't the perfect candidate, but in perspective he might be an ass-kicking guy that could get something done in New York where insolence, condescension, and arrogance are a way of life. Excepting Tony Soprano of course.

Posted by: Fish at October 10, 2010 06:41 PM (v1gw3)

69 Paladino wasn't winning NYC anyway. I don't see this changing anyone's mind, though I suppose it could tilt some undecideds.
I am sick of the MFM's constant attacks on Paladino while Cuomo gets a pass on everything including his part in the sub prime meltdown while at HUD. Carl would pretty much have to shit on the flag for me to change my vote at this point.

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 06:41 PM (w7Lv+)

70 Paladino isn't the perfect candidate, but in
perspective he might be an ass-kicking guy that could get something done
in New York where insolence, condescension, and arrogance are a way of
life. Excepting Tony Soprano of course.

Posted by: Fish at October 10, 2010 06:41 PM (v1gw3)
Ahem. I live in West Caldwell, NJ. Even I can't fix New York.

Posted by: Tony Soprano at October 10, 2010 06:44 PM (c1oyg)

71 Paladino was talking to a group of Hasids. What did youthink he was going to tell them? That Leviticus is bunk in today's modern world?
Seriously, Ace, you have to get out of New York City once inna while.

Posted by: Never Mind at October 10, 2010 06:44 PM (ufAfF)

72 This will likely boost Paladino's campaign. Fully-functional homosexuals are a powerful force in New York's electorate, and he's won them over (along with the Orthodox Jews) with a few well-chosen words. Dysfunctional homosexuals may oppose him, but they don't vote anyway.

Posted by: Average Joe at October 10, 2010 06:44 PM (10BsD)

73 Yes we should accept homosexuality as "normal" because it has a possible genetic component to it.
Oh and while we're at it we should also accept alcoholism, drug
abuse, and all compulsive addictionsas "normal" alsosince it is
believed that theyhave a genetic component as well.


I still like how the psychologist who got homosexuality removed from the lists of mental illnesses has said he's made a mistake but now no one in the media will talk to him.
Still, the Republican and Conservative party leaders in NY, Ed Cox and Mike Long (ooo there's a joke just waiting to happen) need to go.

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2010 06:45 PM (9221z)

74 Sorry lost the "quote " italics, Let'sgetlibtarded

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2010 06:46 PM (9221z)

75 One would think that he could have chosen his words a little more judiciously and still got his point across. I went and checked the NY Post because usually they get their stuff pretty good and I don't know anything about the other paper. The Post had even more quotes.

Yes, this will kill him in The City. But hell he had no chance in the city anyway. Now he can probably write off the 10% of the votes from the city that he would have got.

That will be enough to kill him. As for the Tea Party folks screwing up what choices did they have? I am beginning to believe NY doesn't have a conservative Republican that can run for office.

They have probably already all left the State.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 06:47 PM (/jbAw)

76 The nervous-ninny in me is worried that Democrats will use stuff like this to tar Republicans running around the country. "Why haven't you repudiated..." etc.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2010 06:47 PM (bAySe)

77 amen Fish and Real Joe!

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:47 PM (wJUMn)

78 Still, the Republican and Conservative party leaders in NY, Ed Cox and
Mike Long (ooo there's a joke just waiting to happen) need to go.

Oh, the Long-Cox cabal?

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 06:48 PM (w7Lv+)

79 Well, he doesn't have any bullshit.

We'll see. PC may not be selling this year.

So Al Sharpton get's a pass for his racist shit?

The outrage is a little too much, sorry.


Posted by: Kemp at October 10, 2010 06:49 PM (AQxTm)

80 Well, Paladino has about 20 days to turn this into a referendum on gay marriage. It could work. Most polls show that while the population is in favour of civil partnerships recognized they are not in favour of a redefinition of marriage to include same same sex couples. If you look at Prop 8 in California (which is arguably the most liberal state in the union) the black population voted for Obama almost to a man but also for Prop 8 by a pretty significant number.
Hammer on Cuomo's position on gay marriage as primary and the economy as secondary. What the heck, it's worth a shot.
On the issue of the Latin-King-Goonies whatever the hell they are called, it may not be gay bashing. While I have not doubt these morons dislike gays they may have beaten the crap out of these people because the wannabe gay banger lied to them while/during his initiation into the gang. That may have been a bigger sin to these lowlifes then being gay.

Posted by: scr_north at October 10, 2010 06:49 PM (LsZes)

81 what a bunch panty waists. yea the "safe schools czar" is who you want teaching children? to hell with the homo lobby and their fellow circle jerkers.

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 06:51 PM (3V3F5)

82
Lots of Dems do not approve of gays. They just are smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

I'd rather have a Paladino-type as Governor.

He's willing to live and let live, and he will kick Dems in the ass.

Posted by: eman at October 10, 2010 06:51 PM (zjx6L)

83 I bet there are more than a few people who are accepting of gays in day to day life, but somewhat nauseated by the exhibitionism that goes on in those Pride parades. I think that's what Carl was referring to.

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 06:51 PM (w7Lv+)

84 71
Paladino was talking to a group of Hasids. What did youthink he was going to tell them? That Leviticus is bunk in today's modern world?
Seriously, Ace, you have to get out of New York City once inna while.
Posted by: Never Mind at October 10, 2010 06:44 PM (ufAfF)
If you are a politician today and don't think that your speeches to a specific group are not going to be broadcast to the population at large you are an idiot.
Nothing else he said was really controversial or could be taken as incendiary. But the dysfunctional homosexual remark seems really unnecessary, and just trying to make a play on "gay pride." Probably a lot of other ways that it could have been said that actually get the point across.

Posted by: buzzion at October 10, 2010 06:52 PM (oVQFe)

85 BTW, Ace I left you a message on the "open thread".

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 06:52 PM (/jbAw)

86
You know whats sad?

I'll tell you what's sad.

Who here even knows what the two Republicans running for NY-Senate even sound like? Probably fine candidates, but oddly have been completely overlooked in the news and bologosphere.

*sigh*

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2010 06:52 PM (bAySe)

87 The nervous-ninny in me is worried that Democrats
will use stuff like this to tar Republicans running around the
country. "Why haven't you repudiated..." etc.


Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2010 06:47 PM (bAySe)

They might try it, but whereas us mentioning Obama's mosque comments caused Dems a lot of problems in that they'd have to criticize Obama, nobody on our side will be afraid of criticizing Paladino.

Even if you have a religious objection to homosexuality, he tossed enough out there that you shouldn't have a problem repudiating him.

Posted by: AD at October 10, 2010 06:53 PM (XlKZs)

88 Funny there was no moderate outrage when Obama didn't vote for the born alive infant protection act or when he said he didn't want his daughters punished with a baby. Both of these statements are equally as repulsive as Paladino's yet they are blown by like an ad for vaseline. I know that the right doesn't want to absorb our loons, but why can the left not only absorb theirs so easily but also promote them to the top of their party? Is the difference the media, or is the entire left so bankrupt that regardless of the statement, they are unshockable?

Posted by: dagny at October 10, 2010 06:55 PM (tKXgj)

89 "My opponent took his daughters to march in a homosexual parade," Paladino scoffed.

If the NY Gay Pride parade is like most, arguably this is child abuse.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 06:55 PM (bgcml)

90 he tossed enough out there that you shouldn't have a problem repudiating him.

yea so when's the left going to repudiate islam for tossing fags off of buildings?

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 06:57 PM (3V3F5)

91 real joe, right, most would be as repulsed by hundreds of hetero menor women strutting their sexuality (dragging out their sex toys-ishness)openly in the middle of an open to the public street.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:58 PM (wJUMn)

92 The fact the Cuomo is even a viable candidate after all the shit he's caused is disgusting enough.

Dude, we have Jerry Brown running again after he effectively killed California in the 70s. Now he wants to run again and finish her off.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 06:58 PM (YxBuk)

93 Who here even knows what the two Republicans running for NY-Senate even sound like? Probably fine candidates, but oddly have been completely overlooked in the news and bologosphere.*sigh*
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2010 06:52 PM (bAySe)
I would guess that most conservatives who don't live in New York consider it a lost cause like California.
Can't blame us for that.

Posted by: ErikW at October 10, 2010 06:59 PM (QX5Cj)

94 The press has been busy 24/7 to paint Paladino as a nutcase when he is just a blunt guy with none of the professional politician's smooth bullshit facade. It's too bad Ace and Drew, and the NY Post as well, have apparently drank the media kool-aid on this guy.

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 06:59 PM (w7Lv+)

95 @91 I live around the corner from a really busy nightclub. I would consider myself to be more bored than repulsed.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2010 07:00 PM (Snu7z)

96 The nervous-ninny in me is worried that Democrats
will use stuff like this to tar Republicans running around the
country. "Why haven't you repudiated..." etc.


Posted by: Serious Cat at October 10, 2010 06:47 PM (bAySe)
Frankly, if as a conservative candidate you can't win, it is in your interest to try and push the envelope. If NY voters think the only choices are far left and left, they are going to be shocked when they hear other candidates discuss openly conservative views.
By pumping the prime like this though it becomes much harder for the left to knock mainstream right and right of center talking points.
So, I'd argue if he calculates he has no chance, and he probably doesn't, stake out a very conservative stance on every issue, so other candidates this year and in 2012 have a better chance...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:00 PM (bgcml)

97 Is the difference the media, or is the entire left so bankrupt that regardless of the statement, they are unshockable?

The Left plays to win. It's all in for them. The Right has principles. It's good that we do, it makes us better than them.

Unfortunately, it also prevents us (and when I say "us" I mean party leadership and those idiots who run campaigns) from playing dirty to win.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 07:00 PM (YxBuk)

98 Is the difference the media, or is the entire left so bankrupt that regardless of the statement, they are unshockable?

Both. How do you fight an enemy without any shame or boundaries? It's a political version of Apocalypse Now.

Posted by: EZB at October 10, 2010 07:00 PM (fa9yq)

99 yea so when's the left going to repudiate islam for tossing fags off of buildings?

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 06:57 PM (3V3F5)
You Neanderthal...when it comes to Muslims, you have to learn to respect cultural differences.

Posted by: Some Liberal at October 10, 2010 07:01 PM (bgcml)

100 Completely O/T, but I just saw that legendary soul singer Solomon Burke died yesterday. Remarkable stat? Mr. Burke had 21 children. 21! Didn't he cypher-out the cause-and-effect there?

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 07:01 PM (c1oyg)

101 The Left plays to win. It's all in for them. The Right has principles. It's good that we do, it makes us better than them.

I say when emulate FDR and Churchill. We should go just as deeply into the mud as our opponents.

To continue the analogy, the reason Hitler didn't use chemical weapons wasn't because he was a nice guy, its because he knew the allies would respond in kind...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (bgcml)

102 Is the difference the media, or is the entire left so bankrupt that regardless of the statement, they are unshockable?

Posted by: dagny at October 10, 2010 06:55 PM (tKXgj)
The left never ever eats their own, unlike us.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (/jbAw)

103 yea so when's the left going to repudiate islam for tossing fags off of buildings?


Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 06:57 PM (3V3F5)

I wish the left would a lot of repudiating they're clearly never going to do. If they aren't (as in the mosque statements), that's now starting to cost them votes since we're calling them on it. That's the second best option for me (actually, maybe it's the best option...).

As far as the double standard, it sucks, but the fact Ted Kennedy and Al Sharpton have gotten away with what they've gotten away with shouldn't set the low bar for us.

Posted by: AD at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (XlKZs)

104 a balrog. heh
i must not just live enough!
i don't even watch porn
in fairness (morresey moment) i love sex , but only with those that give a damn if i get insulted or disgusted.
maybe i should run after those last comments.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (wJUMn)

105
most would be as repulsed by hundreds of hetero menor women strutting their sexuality

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 06:58 PM (wJUMn)


On parade this afternoon in my Florida beach town, with a few rather wide-load heifers wearing thongs on the beach. Even my dog Elvis was repulsed and puked, or maybe he ate the little gift from the chihuahua.

Posted by: fish at October 10, 2010 07:04 PM (v1gw3)

106 Fat, drunk and queer is no way to go through life, Son.

Posted by: Carl Paladino at October 10, 2010 07:06 PM (4Kl5M)

107 I say when emulate FDR and Churchill. We should go just as deeply into the mud as our opponents.

No argument from me. I never understood why the Right thinks taking the high road has won them elections. For every one ad I hear for Whitman talking about how she'll fix CA, I hear 3 negative ones against her from Brown. The stupid idiot Whitman has so much fucking fodder for ads but she won't fucking use them. She has a freaking treasure trove of shit from Brown's first two terms and I haven't heard a single negative ad from her in weeks. She has McCain's people running her campaign. That should explain a lot.

Never understood how fighting like them means we're "lowering" ourselves. Whatever happened to not bringing knives to a gunfight?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 07:06 PM (YxBuk)

108 The left never ever eats their own, unlike us.


Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (/jbAw)
No, we fellate our own

Posted by: Nina Burleigh at October 10, 2010 07:07 PM (c1oyg)

109
No, we fellate our own


Posted by: Nina Burleigh at October 10, 2010 07:07 PM (c1oyg)
That's Hot!

Posted by: Paris Hilton, Hollywood Slut at October 10, 2010 07:08 PM (v1gw3)

110 fish. class isn't a party it's individuals that can alsobe dopes. i prefer them to be the other guys dopes and.... if not, play being a dem and call
it being enlightened!
honestly i'm srsly worried about foreign and fiscal policy. this other stuff is just noise at this point to me. maybe this is my own fall, better mine then americas

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2010 07:09 PM (wJUMn)

111 the problem for homos is darwin

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 07:09 PM (3V3F5)

112 the problem for homos is darwin

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 07:09 PM (3V3F5)
that question has never been answered satisfactorily for me

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 10, 2010 07:10 PM (c1oyg)

113 What a freakin idiot.

Good grief.. of all the years... Repubs get a nut on the ballot to challenge a guy who could have seriously lost to a halfway normal person.

Posted by: Timbo at October 10, 2010 07:10 PM (ph9vn)

114 Never understood how fighting like them means we're
"lowering" ourselves. Whatever happened to not bringing knives to a
gunfight?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 07:06 PM (YxBuk)
That was one of the great things about Reagan. He destroyed Carter and Mondale and was happy to do so.
And now we get to deal with a Republican establishment that isn't sure if it should talk about Obama's blame for the current economic Depression. Is it complicated like they say? Sure. Will people listen to the whole argument going all the way back to Carter? No.
KISS - Are you better off today then you were four years ago before Obama and his allies took over Congress?
And then run lots of ads of Obama golfing. If I was running the RNC, he'd be America's most famous golfer at this point...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:12 PM (bgcml)

115 "that question has never been answered satisfactorily for me"

procreation, homos or darwin

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2010 07:13 PM (3V3F5)

116 No, we fellate our own selves

Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof!

Posted by: Happy dogs everywhere at October 10, 2010 07:15 PM (4Kl5M)

117 The left never ever eats their own, unlike us.


Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 07:03 PM (/jbAw)

I've always lovde the contrast of how we treated Trent Lott, and how the Left treated Robert Byrd.

For making a statement that could be construed as support for the segregationist policies of the Dixiecrats, we stripped Lott of his leadership positions.

OTOH, the left called Klan Leader Byrd the "Conscience of the Senate" and had him as one of their most senior leaders, even after he continued to publicly use racial epithets.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:16 PM (bgcml)

118 Hey, Cool Whip Republicans like Giuliani and Pataki had their chance to man up and get into the game. How about a little less hate for the guy who was willing to try?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 07:16 PM (OIw0R)

119 And now we get to deal with a Republican establishment that isn't sure
if it should talk about Obama's blame for the current economic
Depression. Is it complicated like they say? Sure. Will people listen to
the whole argument going all the way back to Carter? No.

Because they might get called *gasp* RACIST!

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 07:17 PM (YxBuk)

120 This man sounds like a fine individual. I'd do him but we'd have to get married first and then he'd have to do it in the missionary position and only for me to get pregg0rz.
But still...great guy. I'myou and shit.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at October 10, 2010 07:17 PM (uCjoj)

121 For some reason, the words "what", "Republicans", and "thinking" keep swirling round my mind.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 10, 2010 07:18 PM (tJjm/)

122 Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:16 PM (bgcml)
I think it comes back again to us having principles and them only caring about attaining and keeping power.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at October 10, 2010 07:20 PM (YxBuk)

123 I'd do him but we'd have to get married first and then he'd have to do it in the missionary position and only for me to get pregg0rz.

Sacred honor compels me to remain quiet.

Posted by: Will Folks, pushing his luck on his 15 minutes at October 10, 2010 07:20 PM (4Kl5M)

124 The left never ever eats their own, unlike us.

Lieberman.

Not saying they meet our level of own-eating, but "never" is a bit off the mark.


Posted by: The Black Republican at October 10, 2010 07:25 PM (Bafjn)

125 Sacred honor compels me to remain quiet.That's not the Will Folks I know!

Posted by: The Many Women Will Folks Has Fucked aka Will Folks's Mind at October 10, 2010 07:25 PM (uCjoj)

126 I'm not a witch!

I'm an asshole.

Posted by: Carl Paladino at October 10, 2010 07:27 PM (tJjm/)

127 There's no need to defend this guy as a case of moderate squishes vs.
real conservatives. The guy was a registered Democrat from 1974 to
2005. I appreciate that he says that he's a conservative, but I'm not
sold on him even being anti-RINO. If anything, this campaign would be more explainable as him being a well-placed mole.

Posted by: AD at October 10, 2010 07:28 PM (XlKZs)

128 Lieberman.Bingo. god how I wish he'd say "Fuck It" at the beginning of the next Congress and go Republican. Longshot and a very stretched ideological fit but one can always dream.It's really fucking sad that you can vote with Democrats 80% of the time, be their vice presidential nominee, and get kicked to the curb by a bunch of whiny basement dwelling policy neophytes because you have the audacity to a) be concerned about our nation's national security and b) not have an irrational hatred of the eeeevil Booooshitler™.

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:28 PM (uCjoj)

129 I've always lovde the contrast of how we treated Trent Lott, and how the Left treated Robert Byrd. In fairness, it was the White House that basically let it be known from above that Trent Lott was a gonner. Bill Frist was also their annoited successor.
In any event, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than Democrats. (and no I'm not suggesting that throwing a few kind words the way of a 100 year old retiring Senator is the same as being a bonafide West Virginia Klansman. The Lott deal was absurd.)

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:32 PM (uCjoj)

130 How about a little less hate for the guy who was willing to try?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 07:16 PM (OIw0R)


How about a little less stupidity from the guy willing to try?

Posted by: DrewM. at October 10, 2010 07:34 PM (HicGG)

131 How about a little less stupidity from the guy willing to try?If only someone had been in a position to do something.

Posted by: Rudolph W. Giuliani at October 10, 2010 07:34 PM (uCjoj)

132 It's really fucking sad that you can vote with Democrats 80% of the time, be their vice presidential nominee,
and get kicked to the curb by a bunch of whiny basement dwelling policy
neophytes because you have the audacity to a) be concerned about our
nation's national security and b) not have an irrational hatred of the
eeeevil Booooshitler™.

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:28 PM (uCjoj)
The irony is that until after the 2002 election, Lieberman's position was the official Dem position.
I still remember the there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Bush and us on taking the fight to the jihadis but we'll also tax the crap out of big business line the Dem's ran on...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2010 07:41 PM (bgcml)

133 Lieberman.Not saying they meet our level of own-eating, but "never" is a bit off the mark.Posted by: The Black Republican at October 10, 2010 07:25 PM (Bafjn)

The Kossites are the ones who ate Lieberman. The Dem Party as a whole supported him.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 07:43 PM (/jbAw)

134 The Kossites are the ones who ate Lieberman. The Dem Party as a whole supported him. They did but not anymore. Alot of them have made clear on the record that he pisses them off. The only reason hegot his chairmanship is because Reid was afraid he'd vote to give the Republicans control in 2007 and because Reid Obama were afraid he'd start defecting on cloture votes in 2009. As it was, they are still angry at him for letting it be known he'd vote against cloture on HCR if they tried to insert their Medicare buy in BS.
The irony is that his chairmanship is the one committee I'd probably feel comfortable with him keeping. Not sure former chairman ranking memberSusan Collins would though, heh.

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:47 PM (uCjoj)

135 Posted by: DrewM.


What happened to elect then purge? Oh right, I forgot -- that's a one way street.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 07:50 PM (OIw0R)

136 Ned Lamont would be surprised to learn he never really won a primary after all.

Posted by: The Black Republican at October 10, 2010 07:52 PM (Bafjn)

137 Ned Lamont would be surprised to learn he never really won a primary after all.Not sure he'd be that surprised. He looks like someone who's either not all there or continually fed a diet rich in methamphetamine.

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:57 PM (uCjoj)

138 OH yeah...and just a fun fact...you know who the guy is who ran Ned Lamont's losing campaign for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination in Connecticut this year?
Joe Abbey.
You know who else Joe Abbey managed? Creigh Deeds.Someone call Bob Shrum. He's got a partner!

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 07:59 PM (uCjoj)

139 What happened to elect then purge? Oh right, I forgot -- that's a one way street.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 07:50 PM (OIw0R)


That applies to policy positions. This guy is a nut. If the NY GOP had any life it in, he'd be a major embarrassment. The one upside to it's non-existence...this guy will soon be forgotten.

He's also not going to come anywhere near winning and I doubt he's done melting down. I just hope he doesn't drag down House candidates and Joe Dioguardi in the process.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 10, 2010 08:06 PM (HicGG)

140 Ned Lamont would be surprised to learn he never really won a primary after all.

Posted by: The Black Republican at October 10, 2010 07:52 PM (Bafjn)
In a Primary some group who can run a good ground game can win a Primary if their opponent doesn't put up the same ground game because he is complacent.The Kossites went full out to kill Lieberman. The Party itself wasn't out to get him at the time and Lieberman was complacent until near the end. That is exactly how that idiot Greene won the primary in SC. Someone put a ground game for him and I suspect that I know who that was, but it sure wasn't the Party.
As for the NYT, they are the biggest group of lying fuckweasels on the planet. I would have to get out in the morning and look if they said the sun was coming up in the East.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2010 08:11 PM (/jbAw)

141 Let's see:
If I were nature and I weregoing to evolve an orifice that was intended for "exit" only, how would I design it?
I would probably make it non-lubricated, easily irritated, and repulsively smelly. And for added emphasis I would design this orifice to excrete the most vile disgusting substance the body could possibly produce.
Now then, would a human being who is attracted to that orifice be considered "normal" or abnormal?

Posted by: Let's all get LibTarded at October 10, 2010 08:20 PM (wFMDa)

142 142: I would probably make it non-lubricated, easily irritated, and repulsively smelly. And for added emphasis I would design this orifice to excrete the most vile disgusting substance the body could possibly produce.

That is SO Hawt!

Posted by: Barney Frank at October 10, 2010 08:23 PM (tJjm/)

143 That is SO Hawt!
I rest my case Bawny.

Posted by: Let's all get LibTarded at October 10, 2010 08:24 PM (wFMDa)

144 Let's see:
If I were nature and I weregoing to evolve an orifice that was intended for "exit" only, how would I design it?
I would probably make it non-lubricated, easily irritated, and repulsively smelly. And for added emphasis I would design this orifice to excrete the most vile disgusting substance the body could possibly produce.
Now then, would a human being who is attracted to that orifice be considered "normal" or abnormal?Yes, I am sure gay people become gay because of an extreme love of the anus. Frankly I might have to go gay myself. How could anyone resist the allure of the rectum?
Snark aside, I do think the anus is the choice of necessity for gay males, not the allure.

Posted by: Chris in Va at October 10, 2010 08:24 PM (uCjoj)

145 Snark aside, I do think the anus is the choice of necessity....
Thanks for making my point.

Posted by: Nature at October 10, 2010 08:26 PM (wFMDa)

146 ace's point is lame unless he thinks that Paladino would say that there is something to be proud of in having a child with a mistress while being married.

Posted by: gm at October 10, 2010 08:31 PM (ELiBu)

147 Yes, I am sure gay people become gay because of an extreme love of the anus.
No. Not the cause of their dysfunction.
But certainly the epitome of the extent of their dysfunction.
"Hi, I'mone of 4% of societyand out of necessityI make love to another man's hairy smellyanus. See how nature is telling me I'm really normal?"

Posted by: Let's all get LibTarded at October 10, 2010 08:45 PM (wFMDa)

148 You know a lot of people agree with him. I didn't know about homosexuality until I got to college. Some of my longest bestest friends are gay and I didn't turn out intolerant. Sometimes you don't need something in your face, maybe it is better if kids grew up without all this discussion of heather has two mommies and just accepted that heather has two mommies and asked their own mommy about it. Then it would be dealt with by parents in the loving way parents deal with it. some things don't belong in the schools and dealing with this is one of them.

Posted by: curious at October 10, 2010 08:46 PM (p302b)

149 I regret that I don't live in New York. That statement alone is worthy of my vote. Its time we stop letting homosexuals bully us.

Posted by: Sidney Allen Johnson at October 10, 2010 08:54 PM (Q+NkT)

150 Posted by: DrewM.

So, you voted for/are voting for Cuomo, the Democrat?

Now in my case, I filled out my absentee ballot today and went party line Republican, even though most of the candidates are to my left on issues I consider important. But for me, running up the tote for our Republican candidates in November is the important thing now.









Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 08:56 PM (OIw0R)

151 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 10, 2010 08:56 PM (OIw0R)

No, I won't vote for Cuomo.

I do have my moments though where I think about the Libertarian candidate for Governor though. Tonight is definitely one of those times.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 10, 2010 09:04 PM (HicGG)

152 But for me, running up the tote for our Republican candidates in November is the important thing now.

Ditto. He is the nominee and we should be supporting him. He could not be worse than what the professional politicians have done to NY.

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 09:08 PM (w7Lv+)

153 He isn't what he seems he gave money and support to the previously elected hooker banging/hooker choking governor and went squishy on on abortion a few days after the primary win. He loves NY except for the people who live in Manhattan, the gays, immigrants and the "others". There are 2 million more registered Democrats in NY State than all the other parties combined. The last 2 Republicans elected governor were liberals (Pataki and Rockefeller). He may win his upstate NY base but Cuomo is going to bury him in NYC and Long Island and he will probably lose by 25 points. He is a terrible candidate who will hopefully explode in a glorious and hysterically funny fashion.

Posted by: client 9 at October 10, 2010 09:09 PM (GeKD8)

154 No, I won't vote for Cuomo. I do have my moments though where I
think about the Libertarian candidate for Governor though. Tonight is
definitely one of those times.

Then you might as well openly vote for Cuomo, because it is the same thing.

Posted by: real joe at October 10, 2010 09:16 PM (w7Lv+)

155 Posted by: client 9 at October 10, 2010 09:09 PM (GeKD

you are underestimating the amount of people who see the cumo name and vote anyone but a cumo.

Posted by: curious at October 10, 2010 09:16 PM (p302b)

156 So what is Gabe's take on this?

At a Orthodox jew function, just a little less homophobic than the ground zero Muslims.

I am willing to cut him some slack, you know the gheys are going to the gym at the ground zero mosque right?

Yeah, right.


Posted by: Kemp at October 10, 2010 09:24 PM (AQxTm)

157 Ace, he NEVER said it here is the NY Times story quote! Give it up this is a hit job!

Mr. Paladino’s prepared text had included the sentence: “There is
nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual.” But Mr.
Paladino omitted the sentence in his speech.
HE DIDN'T SAY IT, GET THAT????

Posted by: Kemp at October 10, 2010 09:40 PM (AQxTm)

158 Count me among those who have had enough of beiong bullied by the lavender mafia. Palladino expresses what is essentially the default view in the West forthe last 2000 years, the current view of every major religion, and whatevery parent crosses their fingers and hopes for when raising a child, yet somehow it's beyond the pale? Spare me the notion that the majority of people need to shut up so as not to hurt the sensibilities of teh gheys - so fucking tiresome.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 10, 2010 09:54 PM (hVc5X)

159 I'm basically a live-and-let live person, whatever someone does behind closed doors, within reason, should be no one's business. So if you want to call me a "homophobe", go right ahead. But I think that all this talk of inevitable support for gay marriage is greatly exaggerated. While the younger generation may be more publicly tolerant of gays, in private, the gay-bashing is the same as it ever was. The word "gay" is still used as an insult, freely. Add in the fact that gays are not looked upon too favorably among the "immigrants" and other racial minorites, and as we all know, they are the demographic that is growing the fastest.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 10, 2010 09:56 PM (/AikP)

160 Even if he said it, he's said worse. This guy is scum every way you look at it. Jim Molinaro and Joanie Mahoney endorsed Cuomo; many Republicans in NY have serious reservations about Paladino. He might even lose Buffalo.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2010 10:02 PM (mHQ7T)

161 I'll tolerate homos, just as soon as they tolerate my intolerance for them.

Posted by: George Steinbrenner at October 10, 2010 10:02 PM (HCBn3)

162 I have no interest in getting in a debate over the how natural homosexuality is or how it should be treated on a personal level. I likely disagree with a lot of conservatives here on that issue (that still doesn't mean I want the courts deciding gay marriage) but the point here is that such a statement, framed in such a vitriolic sounding way is a dead end in a state like new york. It'll play well upstate and in western NY? Great. As a NY'er I can tell you that'll win you 40% of the vote. Enjoy losing by 20 pts.

And for the person pointing out that this wasn't even included in a speech, at some point you just have to accept the fact the media are hack leftist shills whose ranks are filled by tpm and ex college socialist club members and that there is a double standard. A guy puts on a nazi costume once as part of a series of historical re-creation events and he's villified while a dem running for senator can write fiction containing pedophilia and its smirked at. Grow to accept the fact that the media has a titled playing field and start running uphill.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 10:06 PM (RC7LR)

163 That's the point, Zombie....did he actually have a chance in the NYC area, anyway? And does everyone in that area have a soft spot for gays? I know a few guys from Brooklyn who tell me different.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 10, 2010 10:17 PM (/AikP)

164
"GOP candidate for NY governor says children should not be 'brainwashed' about homosexuality - nytimes.com http://nyti.ms/aRkQiH



1 minute ago
via breakingnews.com"

did Ace beat the NY times on this one?


Posted by: curious at October 10, 2010 10:29 PM (p302b)

165 Even if he said it, he's said worse. This guy is scum every way you look at it. Jim Molinaro and Joanie Mahoney endorsed Cuomo; many Republicans in NY have serious reservations about Paladino. He might even lose Buffalo.But he got my endorsement?! You mean that isn't enough?

Posted by: SEAN HANNITY! at October 10, 2010 10:37 PM (uCjoj)

166 @165

Before he got foot in his mouth disease the polls had him close. Even if he'd just kept it to high single digits, low teens that would have given DioGuardi a puncher's chance in this environment and would have put Cuomo in the position where he might make a mistake/gaffe. Instead he's detracting from the fact that AC actually has a pretty shitty record.

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at October 10, 2010 10:40 PM (RC7LR)

167 Molinaro isn't well thought of lately. Who the heck is Joanie Mahoney?

Thank God New Yorkers make their own voting decisions and don't take the word of some other professional politician telling them for whom to vote.

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169 NYPIRG examined the campaign contributions of Cumo and Palladino over a ten year period. Palladino gave more to Republicans. Cumo comes off looking like a cheapskate.

I wonder if they give to charity in the same percentages.

Posted by: curious at October 10, 2010 11:22 PM (p302b)

170 STATEMENT OF CARL PALADINO
CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK

(NEW YORK, NY) - In reaction to inaccurate media reports of his comments to Orthodox Jewish leaders today in Brooklyn, New York, Carl Paladino issued the following statement:

"In my speech today to Orthodox Jewish leaders in New York City, I noted my opposition to gay marriage, inspired by my Catholic beliefs. I also oppose discrimination of any form. I did not say this phrase, as was inaccurately attributed to me by some media outlets:
"There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual. That is not how God created us."

I do not agree with this passage, nor did I say it. Apparently a few reporters relied upon suggested remarks distributed by my hosts at the synagogue in Williamsburg after my departure, not the actual statement I made. My campaign staff has worked with the inaccurate outlets and most corrected their stories after viewing video of the event.

I unequivocally have no other reservations about homosexuality. I enjoy a close relationship with my nephew who is gay and I certainly consider him to be a functional child of God."

Posted by: CO to FLO at October 11, 2010 01:45 AM (Aauti)

171 "PALADINO LAUDS CUOMO ON HEVESI"

lots of interesting stuff in there and it could be missed if people concentrate on a created firestorm.

Listening to Red Eye Radio with Doug McIntyre. He received a call from someone who appeared to have either an Indian or Pakistani accent. The man was genuinely upset. He had been to a palladino rally today and he was calling to say that he did not think the man he saw at the rally would say what is being attributed to him. He was so genuine and honest I knew he had to be believed and then, I came to this thread and the statement was posted and the man was right.

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 01:59 AM (p302b)

172 Great video

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 02:42 AM (p302b)

173 You could have had Steve Levy, you dopes.

Posted by: BTDT at October 11, 2010 10:23 AM (Ysgkb)

174 "In my speech today to Orthodox Jewish leaders in New York City, I noted my opposition to gay marriage, inspired by my Catholic beliefs."
Those Catholic beliefs include cheating on your wife and fathering a child outsider of your marriage?
Carl and I belong to different Catholic churches, that's for sure!

Posted by: BTDT at October 11, 2010 11:04 AM (Ysgkb)

175 So what about this from the link above? What does this prove? And can we expect a retratction from Ace on the Paladino 'story'?

The back-and-forth between the two campaigns took a strange turn late on Sunday, when Mr. Caputo suggested that, on Aug. 20, a Cuomo staff member had referred to two gay male aides to Mr. Paladino as “girls.” The aides were accompanying a Paladino volunteer dressed in a duck costume, and blowing duck calls, to call attention to what the Paladino campaign said was Mr. Cuomo’s habit of ducking issues.According to Mr. Caputo, the aides were approached by the Cuomo staff member and told: “If you girls don’t get out of here, I’m going to shove those duck calls down your throats.”Mr. Caputo said the encounter was “likely a hate crime since the Cuomo staffer clearly referenced their sexuality in his threat.” The Cuomo campaign did not respond late Sunday.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2010 11:15 AM (oLT/p)

176 ...the Cuomo staff member and told: “If you girls don’t get out of here, I’m going to shove those duck calls down your throats.”
Mr. Caputo said the encounter was “likely a hate crime since the Cuomo staffer clearly referenced their sexuality in his threat.”
Perhaps Mr Cuomo was being influenced by his Catholic beliefs against duck/people relations.

Posted by: BTDT at October 11, 2010 11:28 AM (Ysgkb)

177 Does anyone with no chance in NYC have any business running for Governor of NY? That's a dumb argument.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 11, 2010 12:00 PM (mHQ7T)

178 169 They are actual Republican politicians who have always supported the party, even before Paladino and the KKK joined us.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 11, 2010 12:02 PM (mHQ7T)

179 Joanie Mahoney is the County Executive of Onondaga County, New York. She is the first woman to hold this position. And she has never had sex with a horse.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 11, 2010 12:03 PM (mHQ7T)

180 This is a guy, meanwhile, who had a child out of wedlock while married to his wife, so you would expect him to have more of a hate-the-sin-love-the-sinner approach to deviations from the sexual ideal. But, again, it's easiest to knock those sins you yourself are incapable of.


Nice passive aggressive version of exactly what you're accusing him of. I imagine if you asked him about that incident he'd say that's nothing to be proud of either, eh? If something's wrong or bad it doesn't stop being that because you've done a different bad thing some time in your life.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 11, 2010 01:37 PM (61b7k)

181 Concession speech?

This is TRUE and it should be SHOUTED FROM THE ROOFTOPS.

Your attitude is exactly the problem with the Republicans: NEVER state the truth, always move partly towards the liberal position, only you know, not quite as far as the other guys.

YOU ARE A LOSER.

Posted by: Rollory at October 11, 2010 02:23 PM (XGnEq)

182 Paladino was talking to a group of Hasids. What did youthink he was going to tell them? That Leviticus is bunk in today's modern world?
Seriously, Ace, you have to get out of New York City once inna while.
EXACTLY. Stop going wobbly, or should I say limp-wristed, guys. Go Carl Paladino, Go!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 11, 2010 02:54 PM (ujg0T)

183 It looks like a view of 'fake but accurate' is letting this story stand without an update or a retraction.

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