Should've Seen It Coming: Mike Castle Says He Hasn't Ruled Out Write-In Campaign

Bitter clinger:

The Delaware Republican said he was considering the option, though he "probably" would not run. He has until Sept. 30 to make a final decision.

Last week, Castle said running a write-in campaign was "not something I intend to do at this point."

This may explain his Charlie Cristian/Liza Mulchahyan poor-me interview with TNR. He's laying the groundwork to explain why America can't survive without careerist nothings like Mike Castle.

Thanks to svand.

Advantage O'Donnell? Buzz points out that in practice this may not be such a bad thing.

Bear in mind, Castle will bleed off a hell of lot more Coons voters than O'Donnell voters. In fact, I imagine it would be something like 80/20.

That will bring Coons well under 50% (assuming that Castle gets 10-15%). And then O'Donnell can sneak in with a win at 43% or so.

Posted by: Ace at 08:01 PM



Comments

1 Stating the obvious, but: asshole

Posted by: ChuckOH at September 22, 2010 08:01 PM (M0mqh)

2 They kicked me out of the big tent!

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 22, 2010 08:02 PM (SwkdU)

3 These incumbents seem to have more of an entitlement mentality than most inner-city denizens have.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 22, 2010 08:02 PM (ZtwUX)

4 Personal character is the hallmark of RINOs everywhere.

Posted by: Cicero at September 22, 2010 08:02 PM (QKKT0)

5 I'm sure Obamboo is twisting his arm. He'd love for him to run and take out Christine O'Donnell. What is it with these assjacks?

Posted by: runningrn at September 22, 2010 08:03 PM (8GYOu)

6 Rhinos are NOT team players.

Posted by: Doc Merlin at September 22, 2010 08:04 PM (d1kmy)

7 s/Rhinos/RINOS/

Posted by: Doc Merlin at September 22, 2010 08:04 PM (d1kmy)

8 Never stop demanding the things you're entitled to!

Posted by: First Auntie Zeituni Onyango at September 22, 2010 08:04 PM (QKKT0)

9 Call the County Republican Party office in your county and ask them what the fuck is going on and what the fuck are they going to do about it?

If they give you the French-Canadian salute ask them why you should vote if elected party members who were voted out in the primaries won't follow party rules?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at September 22, 2010 08:05 PM (/wk5o)

10 Yeah, we are all told to hold our noses and vote for RINO's and support them when they win their primaries. When they lose their primaries, they don't even support the person who beat them in their own party! It just goes to show you, you can't trust a Rino. I used to think the party purity people were a little over the top. Now, not somuch. You know what they say, a man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.

Posted by: runningrn at September 22, 2010 08:05 PM (8GYOu)

11 I'm not gonna jump on his ass for this one. They asked, he answered, AFAICT. The media is merely shit-stirring here.

Posted by: History, repeated at September 22, 2010 08:06 PM (hCQG5)

12 Ideas. Subscribe. Newsletter.

Posted by: Dede Scozzafava at September 22, 2010 08:06 PM (QKKT0)

13 At this point in time him and Murky should be considered enemies.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 22, 2010 08:06 PM (JNV96)

14 They said the Tea Party movement would lead to a third party, and they were right!

Vote "Write In!" in November.

Posted by: Murcowski and Mike Assole 2010 at September 22, 2010 08:08 PM (9b6FB)

15 In theory this sucks. In practice it might not be a bad thing.

Posted by: buzz at September 22, 2010 08:08 PM (lJmD1)

16 Yeah, how's that RINO love workin' out for ya now?


Posted by: bitter clinger at September 22, 2010 08:08 PM (b2Qrt)

17 Rhinos are NOT team players.

Posted by: Doc Merlin at September 22, 2010 08:04 PM (d1kmy)
I disagree. They play great for the other team.

Posted by: RINOinachinashop at September 22, 2010 08:08 PM (G/MYk)

18 Behold the awesome power of moral rectitude!

Posted by: exceller at September 22, 2010 08:08 PM (Z7Znk)

19 Actually, this might be a good thing. I think he would draw just as many dems away as Republicans - giving O'Donnell a better chance in a three way race.

Posted by: JC at September 22, 2010 08:09 PM (pvRt/)

20 >>>In theory this sucks. In practice it might not be a bad thing.

This is a point.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:09 PM (KUUXH)

21 As a side note: Lucy Lou Munchausen by Proxy said she would also mount a write in campaign in Delaware because she's listened to the voices of the voters and the other little voices in her head that she says deserve a voice in this election.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2010 08:11 PM (r1h5M)

22 Thank you, Al Gore. Now a graceful concession speech is a thing of the past.

This is sick.

But I guess the Dems are loving it.

Posted by: Thea at September 22, 2010 08:11 PM (/3dGX)

23 I wonder what the three-way polls look like if he does this. If Castle is after O'Donnell, he can stay out and she loses. (At least, according to current polls.) If he gets back in, I think his support comes from Coons'.

It's weird, but (tactically) we might want him to do this.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2010 08:11 PM (vEhUz)

24 I used to think the party purity people were a
little over the top. Now, not somuch. You know what they say, a man
who stands for nothing will fall for anything.

Posted by: runningrn at September 22, 2010 08:05 PM (8GYOu)
A lot of folks are there with you, rn. Besides, the "purity" meme is so oversold it's nothing more than the new "raaaaacism!" charge. Going with the "one who can win" is not supposed to be a suicide pact.Where things are run based on individual liberty, there is plenty of room for disagreement on issues. So much for "purity."

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:11 PM (9b6FB)

25
Let's make history!!11!!

oh, wait...

Posted by: Mike Murkowski at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (vbh31)

26 The Hillbuzz boys got these fuckers pegged, the cocktail Republicans, they're nothing but dems who are too damn lazy to put in the time to work up through the ranks. Why work at it when you can have all the same perks? That's why they love the minority.
Run the fuckers out, all of them.

Posted by: jimmuy at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (q6RO+)

27 Murcowskee and Castle are so vindictive they're running as spoilers? They can't imagine they'll win, so they're obviously just running as write-ins to fuck their primary opponents.Who's paying for this?

Posted by: jwpaine at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (g4J4S)

28 I just updated to note that this might be exactly what O'Donnell wants/needs.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (KUUXH)

29 And people wonder why politicians of ANY party are considered untrustworthy. Guys, if you really want to imitate the Dems in something, this isn't the something I'd pick.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 22, 2010 08:13 PM (eNxMU)

30 Castle is disappointed because he already had the drapes measured in his Senate Castle but his primary opponent took his castle and checkmated him. Poor Castle lost his castle and now has no new Castle.

Posted by: rls at September 22, 2010 08:13 PM (hS3ai)

31 He probably has that high octane libtard coffee party behind him.You know,that left wing movement thats sweeping the nation.

Posted by: ziptie at September 22, 2010 08:13 PM (ljAGw)

32 If it would help Odonnell he wont do it.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (roQ1n)

33 Very Doubtful

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (QKKT0)

34 Can the Witchy Witch put a spell on him so he only gets Coons votes?

Is that racist?

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (AQxTm)

35 6
Rhinos are NOT team players.

Posted by: Doc Merlin at September 22, 2010 08:04 PM (d1kmy)

Not true at all! I've always relied on them to be good team players!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (tJjm/)

36 I would like to apologize to everyone here for backing Mike Castle.
I am so sorry. I backed him because he would win the general election, which i still believe, but it doesn't matter. Having this man lose in the primaries was far more important to the cause than any benefit of having him win the senate seat in the primaries.
Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa.
Or in the words of our third President Thomas Jefferson ,"Shit, my bad. That's 100 percent on me"

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (DKV43)

37 Poor Castle lost his castle and now has no new Castle.
And he been exposed as an Astle.

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball at September 22, 2010 08:15 PM (QKKT0)

38 I'm not gonna jump on his ass for this one. They asked, he answered, AFAICT. The media is merely shit-stirring here.


Posted by: History, repeated at September 22, 2010 08:06 PM (hCQG5)
The only acceptable answer is, "I lost the primary and therefore I am not the nominee. I am no longer running for this office." (It would be nice if he'd throw in "I support my party's nominee," but just that first part would have been enough.)

Posted by: Do you have it in a black light version? at September 22, 2010 08:15 PM (fgCQL)

39
I see this as a positive. We're fixing a lot of stuff in the party and we just might be ready to go in 2012.

Because we won't win in 2012 with this broken half-assed unwieldy rudderless party we got now.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:15 PM (/ebqR)

40 Fuck you!

I'm tired of Castles in the Air!

Posted by: Don McLean at September 22, 2010 08:16 PM (BP6Z1)

41 28
I just updated to note that this might be exactly what O'Donnell wants/needs.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (KUUXH)
What if Castle bleeds off 80% of Coons voters? I mean, he's "a popular former governor." Kind of like Manchin is in W.Va (BTW Manchin's uncle, A. James Manchin, was pretty popular, too).

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (9b6FB)

42 >>I used to think the party purity people were a
little over the top

Never really saw it as "purity" myself. Just voting my beliefs. Its either that or "get in line" for who knows what. I don't see where anybody should have a problem with that.

Posted by: History, repeated at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (hCQG5)

43 I saw it coming.

And I liked it.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (7+pP9)

44
Poor Castle lost his castle and now has no new Castle.


And he been exposed as an Astle.

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball at September 22, 2010 08:15 PM (QKKT0)
Needs the limerick treatment.There once was a man named Mike Castle
Of votes he got less than a Pastle;
His loss did so frighten
He considered a write-in
And now we all see he's an Astle.

Posted by: Do you have it in a black light version? at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (fgCQL)

45
I think some of you are beginning to understand it's not about purity; it's about weeding out the bad apples.

Castles and the like are poison and need to be removed.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (/ebqR)

46 You know,that left wing movement thats sweeping the nation.
Posted by: ziptie at September 22, 2010 08:13 PM (ljAGw)
I have a movement sweeping in my draws right about now, but it ain't no left wing.

Posted by: Badonkeydonk at September 22, 2010 08:18 PM (YYkW9)

47 Turning off the black light now.

Posted by: stuiec at September 22, 2010 08:18 PM (fgCQL)

48 28
I just updated to note that this might be exactly what O'Donnell wants/needs.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:12 PM (KUUXH)

And not merely because this might cost the Bearded Marxist votes. This should serve as an object lesson to Delaware GOP voters about why it's important to vote for true Republicans, not mere RINOs.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2010 08:18 PM (tJjm/)

49 Drunken idiot, whinny, leftist, fat journalist with a beard, decries Tea Party radicals in an idiotic, whinny leftist, drunken diatribe, why?
http://tinyurl.com/2f775vr
Because he is an idiot... and a whiner... and fat... and has a beard...
and he likes to use crouching in sentences.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2010 08:18 PM (r1h5M)

50 Wah. Wail. Oh, we can't live without mike castle! wah.

Posted by: Lamentations of enemy women at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (L8kaT)

51 But I got some in my eye.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (7+pP9)

52 Actually, this is another hammer to bludgeon the R "leadership" with and pull them right.

The great RINO experiment is imploding before their very eyes. It renders their arguments for supporting these squisheys impotent.

Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (32ubA)

53 So ace agrees with us now?

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (roQ1n)

54 They kicked me out of the big tent!

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 22, 2010 08:02 PM (SwkdU)
And now you're lurking just outside of it with a gas can and a lighter.

Posted by: stuiec at September 22, 2010 08:20 PM (fgCQL)

55 also, i just saw that mourning in america ad. That is fantastic. I hope the RNC or Chamber of Commerce buy the rights to that ad and air it like crazy until election day.
It is extremely effective.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:20 PM (DKV43)

56 It had a nice salty taste, though.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at September 22, 2010 08:20 PM (7+pP9)

57 Told ya' he woudn't endorse the Dem. Might write himself in. But won't do that.
in which I was right

Posted by: Chris in va at September 22, 2010 08:21 PM (uCjoj)

58 53
So ace agrees with us now?

What White Man mean "us"?

Posted by: Tonto at September 22, 2010 08:21 PM (AQxTm)

59 I smell sulfur. $2,287,997.88

Posted by: toby928™ at September 22, 2010 08:21 PM (S5YRY)

60
Those f'n purists. All they seem to dwell on is that I thought that destroying what's left of our economy with Crap Tax was a good idea. I'll show them!

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 22, 2010 08:22 PM (vbh31)

61 So ace agrees with us now?




Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (roQ1n)
That's not it: regardless of whether Mike Castle was the more electable candidate in the primary, the primary is over and he lost. What Ace can agree with is that NOW Castle is acting like an entitled asshole who doesn't really give a shit about the Republican Party. (It may take a little longer for him to realize that if Castle is willing to turn on the GOP now, he was equally willing to do so when he was still the presumptive nominee.)

Posted by: stuiec at September 22, 2010 08:22 PM (fgCQL)

62
49 From the article:

"...assail President Obama's alleged radicalism and his purported plan to
transform the United States into a European-style social democracy.Putting aside the nonsensical nature of these claims,..."

Well, isn't that conveeeenient! /"Church Lady" voice

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:22 PM (9b6FB)

63 I don't want to restart the war,just asking.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:23 PM (roQ1n)

64 Send in The 'Stache. That is all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2010 08:24 PM (UOM48)

65 So ace agrees with us now?



Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:19 PM (roQ1n)
It does look like he's come around. It took the Merdecockski/Cheato Crist/Casthole hat trick of shit to do it but as the Ramones would say "We're a happy family".

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2010 08:24 PM (aIWP/)

66 I am almost in favor of a policy of putting explosive collars on all candidates in the primary, to be removed safely only when the general election is over, and to be detonated automatically on any primary loser who doesn't support the person nominated in the primary.

Almost, that is, because there are the very rare exceptions of really evil people making it past the primary.

Posted by: stuiec at September 22, 2010 08:24 PM (fgCQL)

67 What I don't understand is, why doesn't Castle just run on the communist party ticket? It's not like it's much of a stretch.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 22, 2010 08:24 PM (eKvou)

68 Doesn't this asshole know that the Tea-Party has Conservatism and Robotics on their side?

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2010 08:24 PM (gHX8g)

69 And as I see it, in the long run (if we survive the next 2 years), it would be worth losing the DE seat and even AK, to out the RINOs and reveal the establishment for exactly what it is.

As it stands, we're still likely to win AK, so we Castle's "sure win" is a small price to pay for the RINO implosion we are seeing.

Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:25 PM (32ubA)

70
In a truly 'big tent' party we'd have our disagreements but we'd all be rooting for the same team.

Castle is not a team player. Castle is for Castle.

You might credit him for voting against Obamacare, but should you? It was a no-brainer. The *smart* vote for someone looking to campaign in 2010 was the No vote.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:25 PM (/ebqR)

71 @54: "And now you're lurking just outside of it with a gas can and a lighter."
Just helping you Reichwingers um....see the light.

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (xy9wk)

72 >>object lesson to Delaware GOP voters

"So, you see crying over spilled milk is useless."

Posted by: Humor, obscured at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (hCQG5)

73 Ace,

You've really done a great job of moving forward. I'm very impressed at how you've put it behind and you and embraced the future. They say that this is one of the things that people get better at as they get older, but you have mastered it in your youth. I am very jealous of you in so many ways. I wish I had half your sense, and I'm almost 15 years your senior.

--Dave in Nashville

Posted by: teh dave at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (aB4my)

74 I agree with the update. This is probably the only chance she has to win.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (IoUF1)

75 stuiec,

Not to rain on your parade, but hey, I could make it past the primary, and I'm evil.

Obama tells me so every freakin' day.

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (9b6FB)

76 Bear in mind, Castle will bleed off a hell of lot more Coons voters than O'Donnell voters. In fact, I imagine it would be something like 80/20.
That's what I was thinking. Coons is going to win, as it stands right now. If Castle would do a write-in, their would be a much greater chance of getting a more acceptable candidate.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (gFCrm)

77 I can't wait to see the next DE poll.I bet it surprises people.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:27 PM (roQ1n)

78 Dear Mr. Castle,

Please kindly suck a nice wet shiny turd out my asshole.

Thank you,

Jukin

Posted by: jukin at September 22, 2010 08:27 PM (vkkNZ)

79 Putting aside the nonsensical nature of these claims,..."Well, isn't that conveeeenient! /"Church Lady" voice
Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:22 PM (9b6FB)
But I thought the sinister tone of the "crouching toward the November election" added just the right touch of crushed garlic to the delicate taste of the foie gras, the chefs speciality.
At least until he drank the sherry and vomited in the punch.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2010 08:28 PM (r1h5M)

80 Personally, I'm content if a candidate has ONE Republican belief that he feels strongly about. Abortion, Religion, Anti-Crime, Defense, Small Government, Free Trade Economics. Pick one, and be a warrior for it, and that's fine.

Its the ones that don't seem to believe in any of the above strongly that seem to wander and become the true RINOs.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:28 PM (z1N6a)

81 Send in The 'Stache.

Noooo! Think of the children.

Posted by: Mike Castle wets himself at September 22, 2010 08:28 PM (SwkdU)

82 I hope Castle does a write in campaign... that's O'Donnell's best shot...

Posted by: yarrrr at September 22, 2010 08:28 PM (OuiPR)

83 They kicked me out of the big tent!

The entitled corruptocrats or redumlicans want us the little people, in the tents, but they,our genteel noblesse oblige betters, will be partaying in the big house. Without us. Unless they need us to refresh their drinks, or clean up.
Who knew that the election of Obama would lead to such a massive housecleaning of both political parties? It's the first thing he's ever done right.

Posted by: Boots at September 22, 2010 08:28 PM (06JTY)

84 That seat is mine by divine right! If you refuse, you die; she dies... everybody dies!

Posted by: Mike "Ard" Castle at September 22, 2010 08:29 PM (xy9wk)

85 84 There are alot of good people in the GOP.The whole party is not the problem.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:29 PM (roQ1n)

86 Given the internals on the two post-primary polls, I'd say that an effective write-in campaign is good for....Castle. Let's face facts, O'Donnell is NOT going to win, and Castle is a better alternative than the bearded Marxist. I doubt he will caucus with the Democrats, given how the establishment GOP supported (and to an extent still does) him.

It would be truly hysterical if he wins. All this fighting for....nothing.

Posted by: Chris R at September 22, 2010 08:30 PM (AO4qz)

87 I don't think Ace ever disagreed with the thoughts we had, he is working this as a the trained professional.

Take what you have, make the best of it.

Seems like that is what we all want to do. Don't forget, he's 30% smarter than those guys, so you better not fuck with him.

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:30 PM (AQxTm)

88 You know who this benefits?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2010 08:30 PM (zgZzy)

89 He's like a god or something! How could we have thrown him out?

Posted by: ya2daup at September 22, 2010 08:31 PM (yRrAd)

90 When did Ace get religion on O'Donnel? I figured he would support Castle running in the general...he's more electable!

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:31 PM (g+4m8)

91 #87 He couldn't beat COD the first time. No reason to think he can do it again.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:31 PM (z1N6a)

92 I am all that is man woman!

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at September 22, 2010 08:31 PM (zgZzy)

93 Drives me fucking nuts when Beck does the "Dem and Rep are not the answer" shit.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:31 PM (roQ1n)

94 I really hate sore losers.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:32 PM (gofDd)

95 Well with Mr. Borscht-in-my-Beard on the left and Ms. Coo-Coo-Bananas on the right, it falls to my sacred honor to save the state of Delaware.

Posted by: Mike "The Astle" Castle at September 22, 2010 08:32 PM (2p0e3)

96 That's what I was thinking. Coons is going to
win, as it stands right now. If Castle would do a write-in, their would
be a much greater chance of getting a more acceptable candidate.

Posted by: rdbrewer at September 22, 2010 08:26 PM (gFCrm)
Not to sound like a nervous nellie/killjoy/defeatist, but things on the ground here in Delaware are a lot more dicey than it would appear in the media (imagine that). I work with a lot of cops, and almost to a man, they would have voted Castle in the general, but now are going to vote Coons because in their minds, O'Donnell is a full-blown religious right kook with too shady of a past and who would want to impose here religion on everyone (citing the masturbation thing). Keep in mind, they don't like Coons either, but they see him as the lesser of two evils. My suggestion to just not vote if you don't like either candidate went ignored. Now, all these guys are New Castle County residents, which may be significant.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:32 PM (UYJNK)

97 O/T: Mark Levin is going to have Mike Holmes on....ooo I love Mike Holmes...OMG he is too sexy, too sexy....

I wonder if Mark Levin will ask him about the Canadian subsidy to make the program. A lot of those HGTV programs come from Canada but oddly enough my friends in canada say they don't get them. I'm thinking they are made for export?

anyway, if you've never watched "holmes on homes" it is an amaing show. Mark and Holmes will have a lot in common, they both unabashedly call bullshit when they see it.

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 08:32 PM (p302b)

98 I promise I will just let this election go and move on.

That being said, where do I sign-up to be the write-in candidate? Anybody got a pen?

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (HjxoE)

99 Some good news for pro-lifers

Posted by: logprof at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (BP6Z1)

100
Unbelievable.

Chris R, are you for real? After taking several shits on your head, you still want Castle to win?

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (waTiq)

101 Would McCain have run as a write in if he'd lost to Hayworth? Sure, he's a RINO, but at least he accepts when he loses.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (gofDd)

102 I really hate sore losers.

Me too!

Posted by: Lisa Madcowski at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (SwkdU)

103
Electable!!111!!!!

Posted by: That guy who like sto say electable at September 22, 2010 08:34 PM (vbh31)

104 Yep. I figured he would switch parties within 2 years if he won the primary and senate anyway.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2010 08:34 PM (L8kaT)

105 Dude, the people are just not that into you. Let it go. Find a hobby. Seek help. Or I will be seeking you out. Savvy.

Posted by: John Bolton's mustache at September 22, 2010 08:34 PM (HjxoE)

106 Kemp,
A mini-moron Carolinas meet-up with you and Vic?

Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:34 PM (32ubA)

107
How much clearer does Castle have to make it?
He doesn't care about anybody or any party. He only cares about himself.
Castle would be an awful senator and we're lucky to have gotten rid of him.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:34 PM (/ebqR)

108 Castle is not a team player. Castle is for Castle.

When you name starts with a C, you can do that! That doesn't mean we are the C word, well yes it does.

Posted by: Charlie Crist at September 22, 2010 08:35 PM (AQxTm)

109 Of course, we all know who this really benefits.

That's right. Mitt Romney.

What? 2008 called and it wants its joke back?

What? 1998 called and wants that joke back, too?

Rats.

Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2010 08:35 PM (ey5wt)

110 102 We'll never know.I hope not.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:35 PM (roQ1n)

111 As it stands, we're still likely to win AK, so
we Castle's "sure win" is a small price to pay for the RINO implosion
we are seeing. Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:25 PM (32ubA)
Rasmussen's latest poll has Miller leading by 20 points, so I'd say it's more than just likely.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 22, 2010 08:36 PM (IoUF1)

112 Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:33 PM (gofDd)

hey, this is a great idea, thanks....

Posted by: JD at September 22, 2010 08:36 PM (p302b)

113
...there would
be a much greater chance of getting a more acceptable candidate.

Which is whom? Who is the more acceptable candidate?

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:36 PM (/ebqR)

114 Drives me fucking nuts when Beck does the "Dem and Rep are not the answer" shit

Castle is proof that it's not. Constitutional Conservatism is.

Posted by: JC at September 22, 2010 08:36 PM (pvRt/)

115 Castle would be an awful senator and we're lucky to have gotten rid of him.

Let's not start sucking each others' dicks just yet, gentlemen. A lot of Delawareans are still brain damaged enough to vote him in because he's the "reasonable, responsible" choice over O'Donnell or Coons.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:36 PM (UYJNK)

116 87 He couldn't beat COD the first timeYeah adding the other 67% of the state is going to really hurt him.

Posted by: Chris in va at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (uCjoj)

117 >>>Actually, this is another hammer to bludgeon the R "leadership" with and pull them right.

at some point it really would be just super if some of you could drop the war on RINOs and get back to the war on socialism you say is so important.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (KUUXH)

118 107
Kemp, A mini-moron Carolinas meet-up with you and Vic?

It could happen, I am in CLT, I think Vic is in upstate SC. There are more morons in the Carolina though.

I get the pudding!

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (AQxTm)

119 I never understood how 3rd party would solve anything, as the people that whine about the "2-party system" generally all disagree with each other on the issues.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (g+4m8)

120 O'Donnell is a full-blown religious right kook with too shady of a past
and who would want to impose here religion on everyone (citing the
masturbation thing)

I really hate this shit. (Not you, the guys you're talking about.) Democrats always freak the effing hell out whenever there's someone religious on the right involved. OH NOES THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY ABORTION/GAY RIGHTS/SEX/WHATEVER!!!!eleventy!111!! And yet that never is the case. Ever. Did Bush ban abortion? Did he ban gays in the military? Did he round up the treasonous assholes and slaughter them? And he wasn't even a conservative except socially. These people have no idea how someone can live with their own beliefs and not impose on others, even when they're lecturing us about not imposing our beliefs on other cultures. I can't stand the hypocrisy or the projection. It pisses me off.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (gofDd)

121 Let's not start sucking each others' dicks just yet, gentlemen.
Stop stealing my gig!

Posted by: Mr. Wolf at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (zgZzy)

122
People to Castle: There is no "I" in Team.

Castle: There's no "WE" either. Bitch.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 22, 2010 08:37 PM (oCXnK)

123 would him running a write-in help COD by taking votes away from coons?

Posted by: blindgoose at September 22, 2010 08:38 PM (Qa624)

124 Even if he wins, he's not one of ours, so we don't have to let him stab us in the back.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:38 PM (z1N6a)

125 Joe Miller is going to win.
Marco is going to win.
If Castle does this, yes, then yes O'Donnell has a good chance to win, and if Castle wins, then the Senate goes with a repub majority.
I think this is the best option, in either casePet-Marxist Coons is kept out of the Senate.
Why don't these people ever want to let go off power?? what is with these people, have they never been fired from a job before. Heck, wonder if they have ever held a real job before!

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at September 22, 2010 08:38 PM (ACkhT)

126 "Castle & Murkowski" should've been an Eighties sitcom title.

...What happens when an Alaskan spalpeen with 'tude meets a Delaware patrician entering his dotage? Tune in to find out, right after "Spuds Mackenzie vs. Pac Man Part II: The Jamz Years"...

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 22, 2010 08:38 PM (EHI/u)

127 115 What party produces acceptable candidates most of the time?What party never or rarely does?

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:39 PM (roQ1n)

128 Briar patch politics.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at September 22, 2010 08:39 PM (jH9zI)

129 #121 Those who think that way would never vote Republican in a million years, Castle or no Castle. Its a smoke screen.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:39 PM (z1N6a)

130 Beck's "not about Dem and Rep" stuff doesn't annoy me as much as it does (some of) you. I take his schtick to be aimed at the long-run, not what's happening now.

Levin bags on him for not getting behind issues and candidates. Well, not everyone gets to be Mark Levin, and not everyone should be focused on the same exact task. Someone should be looking at the horizon while the crew is putting out the fire.

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (9b6FB)

131 36 I would like to apologize to everyone here for backing Mike Castle.

I am so sorry. I backed him because he would win the general
election, which i still believe, but it doesn't matter. ...


Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:14 PM (DKV43)
[[[[[hugs Ben]]]]]

Posted by: Mary in LA at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (NGf/6)

132 So we should write in 'Asshole?'

Posted by: nickless at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (MMC8r)

133 101 No, I am just calling it as I see it. I want O'Donnell to win, but she won't. I won't pretend that she has a real chance. I still see Castle as the better alternative than Coons.

Posted by: Chris R at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (AO4qz)

134 If Castle wins he'll be more trouble that Snow and Collins combined.

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (AQxTm)

135 Moderates.
They know what's best forthe moronic masses.

Posted by: Big Tent This at September 22, 2010 08:40 PM (wFMDa)

136 32
If it would help Odonnell he wont do it.


What he said.


74
Ace,
You've really done a great job of moving forward. I'm very impressed at how you've put it behind and you and embraced the future


What he also said.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 22, 2010 08:41 PM (Y81Xa)

137 >>>So ace agrees with us now?

Please stop asking me to confess I was wrong. I was not wrong. I have one way of demonstrating I was not wrong, which is by citing the poll numbers, which state precisely what I told you they would.

I am not doing that out of respect but stop insisting I was wrong on a specific point I made about O'Donnell. I knew how she would play. I also knew that, contrary to your assertions, most people do not just vote for an "ideology" but rather a *person* and bio matters.

I am not going to bait you with "I told you so's." But please stop asking me to admit I was wrong when I wasn't.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:41 PM (KUUXH)

138 You're right, Ace ( if that's your real name )--Castle as a write-in will get COD elected to the Senate

I love politics...........

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 22, 2010 08:41 PM (dPcmp)

139 #123
Castle: There's no "WE" either. Bitch.
Castle: But there is a "ME" in "team".

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 22, 2010 08:41 PM (c0A3e)

140 So I think it is time the Reps demand a "no write in run" pledge in writing before supporting some of these squishes....

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2010 08:42 PM (bgcml)

141 I think Republicans should be more vocal about abortion...a lot of young women only vote Democrat for their "right to abortion" and if you persaude them it's wrong, you have a lot of new potential voters. Abortion is the easiest issue to debate with a liberal yet conservatives run away from the issue.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:42 PM (g+4m8)

142 #141 Like breaking their word matters to this crowd.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:42 PM (z1N6a)

143 I still see Castle as the better alternative than Coons.

If a guy is going to vote D 50% of the time and runs against a guy who voted D 100% of the time, why would the average "moderate" vote for the D lite? Why not just vote for the 100% D?

That's what I don't understand about the GOP. They've been playing Dem lite since 2000 hoping that would win them elections. Why vote for the lite when you can get the full fattening version?

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:42 PM (gofDd)

144 I really hate this shit. (Not you, the guys you're talking about.)
Democrats always freak the effing hell out whenever there's someone
religious on the right involved. OH NOES THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY
ABORTION/GAY RIGHTS/SEX/WHATEVER!!!!eleventy!111!! And yet that never is
the case. Ever. Did Bush ban abortion? Did he ban gays in the military?
Did he round up the treasonous assholes and slaughter them? And he
wasn't even a conservative except socially. These people have no idea
how someone can live with their own beliefs and not impose on others,
even when they're lecturing us about not imposing our beliefs on other
cultures. I can't stand the hypocrisy or the projection. It pisses me
off.130
#121 Those who think that way would never vote Republican in a million years, Castle or no Castle. Its a smoke screen.

And that's the weird thing. They almost all voted for Bush both times and were ok with his stance on abortion et. al., but don't like O'Donnell because she's against gay marriage and self-abuse (on top of the legal issues) because that would be establishing religion in their minds. And keep in mind, most of the people I've talked to about this and think this was are cops, who are generally pretty conservative.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (UYJNK)

145 119...I'm in the CLT area too...won't disclose where so the suits have a harder time locating me for the vacation in the re-education camps.
How can we email outside of AoS?

Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (32ubA)

146 "There are more morons in the Carolina though."


I'm in Winston-Salem and would drive an hour or two for a small meet-up. A place with steaks, beers and a reasonable distance to drive home is all I need.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (EHI/u)

147 >>>Actually, this is another hammer to bludgeon the R "leadership" with and pull them right. at some point it really would be just super if some of you could drop the war on RINOs and get back to the war on socialism you say is so important.
I agree, for now. The primaries are over. It's time to focus on the 2010 general elections.
However, there are a list of scalps we need to go after in 2012. Lindsey Graham at the top of that list. Orin "It's good taste" Hatch, and the Maine sisters are not far behind.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (DKV43)

148 Fair enough.I wasn't angling for an admission of anything but that Castle is a turd.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (roQ1n)

149 Castle gets 15% of the vote, Coons 40%, and O'Donnell 42%. O'Donnell wins, and lefty heads explode like in a Troma flick.
That is puddin good.

Posted by: Lee (in KY) at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (LU3mk)

150 I am trying to put a happy spin on things. This gets harder when people keep insisting I state that they were right all along.

She's down like 54-39 in one poll and 55-39 in another.

I'm not going to say I told you so, except I most definitely did tell you so, so please stop asking about this unless you want this kind of answer.

If it really was true, as some asserted, that the ONLY thing that mattered was defeating Castle, then you are victorious; take your victory.

If, as I suspect, most really did think O'Donnell could win and were not open to reasoned discussion on the point -- well, hey, I did what I could.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (KUUXH)

151 What's the difference between Castle and Koons? Republicans like Castle make Beck seem like he has a point about Republicans in general.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (g+4m8)

152 [stops fapping]

Posted by: Chris Coons, Suddenly Concerned Democrat at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (BP6Z1)

153 OK, and when it's over, can we shoot him out of a cannon as punishment?

Posted by: EZB at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (fa9yq)

154 141 What about Liebermann in CT? He went indy and beat a known Marxist in 2006 (Lamont). If Lamont had won 4 years ago Obama would have probably gotten a public option into his HCR bill, making it even worse.

Posted by: Chris R at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (AO4qz)

155 if he does a write-in, he will be an independent, he won't win most likely, but it will allow enough Pet-Coon's votes to be drawn away, O'Donnell wins.
If Castle by some miracle wins, he will be an Independent, not a repub, then Repubs gain majority.
Marxist Coons will be kept out. In some ways I hope Castle does do a write in.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (ACkhT)

156 128 115 What party produces acceptable candidates ,most of the time?What party never or rarely does?

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:39 PM (roQ1n)

Got me, Boss.

Now, if you'd'a axed: "Which party produces one acceptable conservative every 15 to 20 years?" I mighta had a clue what the hell you're on about.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (wOtDN)

157 Ace has always agreed with us. He was just caught up in the business as usual 'only way to get control of this train wreck' thinking. I had it too, and so did a lot of you.

We're all out for the same things, but sometimes it's hard to see the town hall meetings and the TEA parties and Scott Brown winning and all that, and know that it really is a tide.

It's like when you see an article about a 7.2 earthquake in the middle of the ocean, and you don't immediately think there's a tsunami heading for Gilligan's Island, because the Professor would've told us if there were.

Then, all the sudden, there's a 60' tidal wave bearing down on you, and it's hard to keep your old point of view.

I think this election cycle can be that eye opener for a lot of people. And Ewoks.

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 08:45 PM (9tt+Z)

158 o/T: mike holmes

and for my fellow moronettes: link

Posted by: JD at September 22, 2010 08:46 PM (p302b)

159 I have not seen Ace make a coherent case FOR Castle. Hell yes a defeat of Castle was a win.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:46 PM (g+4m8)

160 I didn't want to start shit and piss ace off.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:46 PM (roQ1n)

161 Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (UYJNK)

I don't get it. It makes no sense to me. Do they honest to God think she would actually put forth legislation that says people are no longer aloud to fap fap fap?

I do understand some reservations on the more shady aspects she's been involved in, but I can't believe they'd let the sillier things get to them. And really, is masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost importance right now? They're not concerned about the headlong dive into full blown socialism, skyrocketing taxes, etc etc? It seems their priorities are skewed.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:47 PM (gofDd)

162 We are on the same side now so cease fire.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:47 PM (roQ1n)

163
...so a witch and a coon walk into a castle....
stop me if you heard this one........

Posted by: Big Tent This at September 22, 2010 08:47 PM (wFMDa)

164
If Castle wins, which he won't, the first thing he'll do is caucus with the majority party...the Democrats.

It's the smart thing to do.

Posted by: the chief AoS inquisitor at September 22, 2010 08:48 PM (waTiq)

165 162 Most people pay very little attention to what is actually happening in Washington.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:48 PM (roQ1n)

166 >>>I didn't want to start shit and piss ace off.

it's not you, I get asked this a lot. I am trying to be a team player, that is all.

Do I think I was wrong? No, in fact, I'm kind almost completely sure I wasn't.

But that's irrelevant. She is our candidate.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:48 PM (KUUXH)

167 #148 Lindsey Graham at the top of that list. Orin "It's good taste" Hatch, and the Maine sisters are not far behind.
There is no reason why we should tolerate the likes of Grahamnasty from a state like S.C., regardless of how screwed up SC's state politics are. We should strive for two Demints from SC.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (c0A3e)

168 Frickin' homonyms. Aloud = allowed

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (gofDd)

169 OT, remember, "who are you" Bob Etheridge?

Looks like he's got some trouble in NC

http://tinyurl.com/2fxklkg

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (AQxTm)

170 According to Drudge, Bill O'Reilly's book has sold 31,000 copies.
If anyone of you bought it and show up at a Moron meet up, you are in for a brutal thrashing.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (DKV43)

171 126 I think in this particular situation this might be a not so bad thing. O'Donnell is shaky, 10 points behind (and no, I don't trust her not to do something flakey); Coons is a Marxist (and Reid's gerbil, gopher thing). Coons cannot be allowed to get that Senate seat. If Castle runs as an Independent he'll draw votes off Coons; he might even win the damn thing.
Better an RINO running as independent than a Marxist (come on, remember how a lot of people here gave it to me and some others hot and hot for not rah rah-ing Kirk...).

Posted by: unknown jane at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (5/yRG)

172 Posted by: Do you have it in a black light version? at September 22, 2010 08:17 PM (fgCQL)
Excellent! Signed copy of Pinheads and Patriots going' out to you!

Posted by: Ted Baxter at September 22, 2010 08:50 PM (a3Z62)

173 147...the north Charlotte area has several places that would fit your requirements. And if Kemp brings the pudding, we're set.


Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 08:50 PM (32ubA)

174 No matter which side of that debate you were on, (how many threads was it?)
It has to have become obvious to you that the incumbents do not want to "go gently into that good night".....which I've never ever seen. And it would be obvious that all of them made calls to BO and the Sheriff....why?

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 08:50 PM (p302b)

175 I don't think there was a right answer to "who do we support in Delaware?", only bad ones.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 22, 2010 08:50 PM (Y81Xa)

176 172 No way Castle wins.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (roQ1n)

177
I don't think there was a right answer to "who do we support in Delaware?", only bad ones.

Welcome to voting in California.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (gofDd)

178 And keep in mind, most of the people I've talked to about this and think this was are cops, who are generally pretty conservative.
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:43 PM (UYJNK)
Meh, I don't think conservative means what they think it means. I could understand the financial issues turning them off. It basically means they don't think she's a good person and I can see that. Businesses don't hire people with a bad financial history all the time.
Voting for a liberal who is not only liberal on social issues but already raised their taxes over 50% doesn't equal conservative to me. He will be a rubber stamp for Obama, if they are happy with that they aren't conservative.
Maybe they believe she will actually get an anti masturbation bill through the house and senate and Obama will sign it but I doubt it.

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (fwSHf)

179 So we should write in 'Asshole?'
It's spelled Casshole.

Posted by: Mike Casshole, the Peoples' 2nd Choice at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (QKKT0)

180 Ace's fondness for Castle or "pragmatic" political decisions does not seem to jive with the quote that headlines his website:
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (g+4m8)

181 #178 Do any movie stars live in Delaware? That's how we solve it in California.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:52 PM (z1N6a)

182 I don't think there was a right answer to "who do we support in Delaware?", only bad ones.
Exactly!
Now the fight is over, and its time to target Coons for defeat.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:52 PM (DKV43)

183 #174

Still on a fucking diet, so I might not be much fun, BUT, I will be sober, so I can drive.

Let's give it some time, shit I may go to DE. I have no life.

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:52 PM (AQxTm)

184 What about Liebermann in CT?I always hold out hope that he finally makes the full switch to R but it's unrealistic. There really is no party for him anymore. He's too liberal domestically to fit in the Republican Party and too rational on national security to be accepted by Democrats. In many ways, it's kind of sad.

Posted by: Chris in va at September 22, 2010 08:52 PM (uCjoj)

185 I bet OD is inside 10 soon.Closer than that by election day.I think the tide is that strong.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (roQ1n)

186 170
OT, remember, "who are you" Bob Etheridge?

Looks like he's got some trouble in NC

http://tinyurl.com/2fxklkg


Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:49 PM (AQxTm)
--Vote pretty nurses for Congress!!

Posted by: logprof at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (BP6Z1)

187 Ace's fondness for Castle or "pragmatic" political decisions does not seem to jive with the quote that headlines his website:
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (g+4m
He has to get to 51 seats first to do that. Ace is a Constitutional throat-slitter.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (z1N6a)

188 So we should write in 'Asshole?'

Write in "Scat like me".

/Anagram of Mike Castle's name.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (c0A3e)

189 >>>I don't think there was a right answer to "who do we support in Delaware?", only bad ones.

right and we were asking two different questions. The question I was asking was "Who can beat Coons and keep the seat out of Coons' hands?"

Other were asking stuff about what candidate deserves support or is baseline acceptable conservative or would teach the establishment a lesson.

Maybe the latter people weren't wrong, since O'Donnell was the choice for those questions; but I also wasn't wrong, or at least it sure doesn't seem like it.

A lot can change of course. I'd be happy if it did. I have no problem I can't get over with Christine O'Donnell except a conviction she is unnacceptable to 51% of the voters in Blue Delaware.

If that changes, I'm happy. I'll be euphorically wrong.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (KUUXH)

190 Ha.
Cuomo caught lying about voting for Bloomberg.
Can you imagine us winning in New York?

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (DKV43)

191 Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:42 PM (gofDd)
Your age belies your wisdom, rum.
Must be the third nipple?

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (gHX8g)

192 #188

I thought her hair looked a little, come get me. I'd do it.

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (AQxTm)

193 186 Yeah.He is very liberal on most social issues.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (roQ1n)

194
O'Donnell...would want to impose here religion on everyone
(citing the masturbation thing).

So,Hoss, the cops in Delaware are most concerned that someone might stop them from jerking off on the job? Really?

Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (rMMMP)

195 And really, is masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost importance right now? It helps paint her as cooky and that's what prevent people from voting for her. I don't think most people think she'd try to ban masturbation but they think "Jee what the hell is wrong with her?".
That's why things like that are harmful.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (uCjoj)

196 Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 08:53 PM (DKV43)

yes, yes I can, yes I can and I'm praying harder than I have ever prayed in my life for it to be true...

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (p302b)

197 I don't get it. It makes no sense to me. Do they
honest to God think she would actually put forth legislation that says
people are no longer aloud to fap fap fap?I do understand some
reservations on the more shady aspects she's been involved in, but I
can't believe they'd let the sillier things get to them. And really, is
masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost
importance right now? They're not concerned about the headlong dive
into full blown socialism, skyrocketing taxes, etc etc? It seems their
priorities are skewed.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 08:47 PM (gofDd)
In a word, yes. Their main concern in that department is that she would let her religious views influence her voting habits and legislation, which violates the establishment of religion in the Constitution, at least in their minds. Never mind that those on the religious left use their religion to oppose the death penalty and to support government-based welfare programs.
The Delaware Republican Party is in a chummy, country club-style aristocratic relationship with the Democrats here, everyone knowing everyone else, nominating moderates, and only running stooges who they know can't win. against the former governors that end up running for national office. No one here (except maybe Blue Hen and some of the other DE morons) seem to acknowledge that at the same time, the majority of the Republican voting rank and file, at least up in New Castle where the de facto decisions are made, have abetted this stupidity. O'Donnell's win upset the apple cart and now everyone's losing their shit.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (UYJNK)

198 I agree with Ace pointing out he hasn't been shown to be "wrong" on this. Some of you have assumed more than he ever actually wrote about it. So give it a rest already.

However, this whole meme about "purity" and the supposed "overzealousness against so-called RINOs" is also way overplayed. Sure, Ace was not breathlessly claiming the RINO must be elected at all costs; but additionally, none of the less snarky commenters on the other side were flaming heavily over some imagined "purity" movement. They wanted Castle gone because he's not even a replica watch version of a Republican. They said many times Castle would vote Democrat, or even switch parties, because, hey, Charlie freaking Crist. And they were clearly correct, whether O'Donnell is electable or not.

So give the purity meme a rest, too.

The only thing that's changed is that this time, something more than a "wave" election is building. Some admit it, some are afraid to admit it, and some are flat-out skeptical. But let's not argue past each other with straw men.

Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (9b6FB)

199 So,Hoss, the cops in Delaware are most concerned that someone might stop them from jerking off on the job? Really?

Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (rMMMP)
Maybe Hoss was the one getting jerked around there. Hard to say what the lie factor is with all the scrutiny going on at the moment.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (z1N6a)

200 If that changes, I'm happy. I'll be euphorically wrong.
You'll also have pudding on yer sack.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (gHX8g)

201 I thought her hair looked a little, come get me. I'd do it.


Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (AQxTm)
--I'm glad we have a lot of M.D.s and RNs running on our side. This is the year for it.

Posted by: logprof at September 22, 2010 08:56 PM (BP6Z1)

202 How did Scott Brownn win in a more blue state of Mass? They were calling him a hick and a teabagger and he won pretty easilly. I don't think DE is all that liberal outside of inner Wilmington maybe?

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 08:56 PM (g+4m8)

203 WTH? Is this officially RINO Tantrum Month, or what?

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at September 22, 2010 08:58 PM (PZLW0)

204 Good things can happen too.This is OUR year and she just started campaigning.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 08:58 PM (roQ1n)

205 Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken

Posted by: Matt X

Fat, drunk & driven by impulse is no way to go through life, Son

Posted by: fluffy Wormer at September 22, 2010 08:58 PM (SwkdU)

206 I remember someone telling me that JFK couldn't get elected cause people were afraid that he would take his orders from the pope and let his religion run his office. That is such a lame argument. If you actually listen to her and listen to palladino you hear very reasonable people clearly outlining what they think needs to be done in Washington to serve the people of the state. But hey if you guys want to let the dems and their internet army of axelturfers frame your argument go ahead....but the people ultimately will vote for who they want to win and represent them.

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 08:59 PM (p302b)

207 198
And really, is masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost importance right now?

"It helps paint her as cooky and that's what prevent people from voting forher."

I mean, these people DO realize that Pope teaches exactly the same things, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2010 08:59 PM (tJjm/)

208
I agree with Ace pointing out he hasn't been shown to be "wrong" on
this. Some of you have assumed more than he ever actually wrote about
it. So give it a rest already.
Posted by: K~Bob at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (9b6FB)


I agree, and really we seem to forget that neither side gets to choose who runs for office. The primary voters in DE do. Neither side in this tempest in a teapot controls the deck -we didn't cause her to win or would have made her lose.

Both of us just have to live with the cards that are dealt.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (z1N6a)

209 186 Yeah.He is very liberal on most social issues.Occasionally he wonders off the reservation. Pretty sure he was one of the few (only?) Dems willing to discuss the SS reform idea in '05 without going into OMGWTFBOOSH! hysterics, although it's been long enough that my mind could have misplaced that.He and Bill Buckley were friends as I recall. I know Lieberman wrote an op-ed in National Review talking about their friendship when Buckley died a few years back. But yeah he has a consistent ACU ratings in the teens. I kind of feel sorry for him. In many ways his actions on Iraq in 2008 are the very essence of principle over politics.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (uCjoj)

210 I hope Castle does do a write in, if he wins as an independent, fine, if O'Donnell squeaks by and wins, even more fine. In either case Reid will be kept far away from his Marxist Pet Coons.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (ACkhT)

211 Lay off my ass, I am dead and these worms itch.

Posted by: Zomie Dean Wormer at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (AQxTm)

212 >>>The only thing that's changed is that this time, something more than a "wave" election is building. Some admit it, some are afraid to admit it, and some are flat-out skeptical. But let's not argue past each other with straw men.

My problem with this though is... I was just talking to a friend about Bielat in MA. Now, on paper, maybe he's sorta within striking distance, but the Republicans haven't even contested that CD in 20 frickin' years. NO GROUND GAME at all.

This is what lost us PA-20.

So yeah the wave may be big but there are a lot of areas where we could win if we had a ground game in these places ,but we don't.

Delaware is frankly one of the states where I'd bet good money the GOP GOTV is much poorer than the Dems.

All across the country, in these very iffy areas, we *could* win if everyone currently siding with us had their asses dragged to the polls but we won't be able to do that.

That's my moment of doom and gloom. Not really doom and gloom, because I think we'll do very well, but not AS WELL as we could.

in this sense C O'D is maybe good, as you need a fired up base to have this sort of strong GOTV and not a halfhearted one. This is Dan Riehl's point, that at least she maybe can help start a conservative grassroots thing there.

But that is like three cycles away.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (KUUXH)

213 177 I could care less if Castle wins; it's Coons I most definitely don't want to see winning.
And no, I really don't see there being any real "good" choice for Delaware, but that could be said for other states as well, namely my own.

Posted by: unknown jane at September 22, 2010 09:00 PM (5/yRG)

214 So,Hoss, the cops in Delaware are most concerned that someone might stop them from jerking off on the job? Really?

Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (rMMMP)
Maybe
Hoss was the one getting jerked around there. Hard to say what the lie
factor is with all the scrutiny going on at the moment.


Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 08:55 PM (z1N6a)
Judging by my last speeding ticket and the number of speed traps here, I doubt the have much "time on their hands".
Generally speaking, "conservative" in New Castle County means Mike Castle-ish. Reason #1283 why this state blows.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (UYJNK)

215 Ace needs to be purged. Purge, purge, purge, purge! I have the torch, pitchforks, and rope.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (g+4m8)

216 I mean, these people DO realize that Pope teaches exactly the same things, right?Heh. People don't seem to mind that . But I suppose that's another interesting discussion.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (uCjoj)

217 And really, is masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost importance right now?
the next time she is asked about the witchcraft or masturbation issue, she needs to use playful humor to disarm the interviewer.
For the fapping say something like, " Look Chris, The American people are concerned about holding onto their jobs, their dwindling savings, their childrens futures, and not what you do with yourself at night when no one is around."

For the Witchcraft say something like, "Look Chris,any parent of a highschool girl who has seen Twilight 10 times in the theater can relate. None of us are the people we were in highschool. We all go through phases inour lives. I've grown up and moved on to the important issues, like jobs, security, and the future of this country. I suggest you and the other reporters fixated on this grow up as well."

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (DKV43)

218 Wouldn't that be a hoot.

Tea Party gives money to O'Donnell to help O'Donnell win the primary. Then,

Tea Party gives money to Castle... to help O'Donnell win the regular.

I think I like how this is shaping up. Do it, Castle. After having won election after election, Castle getting beat - twice - in the same election - by the same little girl - would make his tears of fail all the sweeter.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (swuwV)

219 Palladino does NOT talk like a politician.It really is a pleasure once you get used to it.He is blunt.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (roQ1n)

220 This is what lost us PA-20

PA-12 not 20.
That was the Crist v Burns race.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:02 PM (DKV43)

221 I mean, these people DO realize that Pope teaches exactly the same things, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2010 08:59 PM (tJjm/)
Yeah, but that goes back to the "imposing religious views" horseshit. That, and you have quite a few lapsed/liberal Catholics in Delaware (e.g. Joe Biden)

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 09:02 PM (UYJNK)

222 1. Doing a write in is usually difficult here. Most of the machines can't support it, so you have to ask for a supplemental ballot.
2. When polling showed a two way race between Castle and Coons, Castle led by about ten points, as we all knew. But we have no idea if Coons voters (Dems and liberal Republicans and some Indies) will bother to do the write in. Dems are notorious for straight ticket voting.

My primary concern is that she beat him in a primary by six%. If he bleeds off any appreciable support from the Republicans, she can't win.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:02 PM (1O93r)

223 Their main concern in that department is that she would let her
religious views influence her voting habits and legislation, which
violates the establishment of religion in the Constitution, at least in
their minds.

Religious views influencing voting habits and legislation. They obviously missed the whole part in the Declaration of Independence about rights being endowed by our Creator? That was also an argument against, Palin IIRC, even though her governing was more libertarian. Not saying O'Donnell would be the same way, but I just think in general Rs are less likely to impose their morality on people than Ds. (Except the nanny staters like Fuckabee. Same thing, different ideas.)

Anyway, these are the kind of people I don't even bother trying to argue/persuade with logic. They make such great illogical leaps, it makes my head hurt to figure out how the hell they came up with the conclusions they did. A lot of it I think is lack of comment sense with a dash of constant liberal brainwashing and lack of education about how the gov't works and how it's suppose to work.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 09:02 PM (gofDd)

224 >>>How did Scott Brownn win in a more blue state of Mass?

Um, because he had a great bio (JAG officer), was smart, had model-good looks, a perfect family, and had a huge amount of charisma.

Look, if some of you want to continue insisting that swing voters vote primarily on ideology, I am tired of even discussing such a ridiculous point.

Debates are about ideology. Political elections are about people. People who sometimes confess an ideology, but more often hide or obscure it.

Posted by: ace at September 22, 2010 09:03 PM (KUUXH)

225 Palladino does NOT talk like a politician.It really is a pleasure once you get used to it.He is blunt.
i honestly think that will benefit him greatly in new york. it seems to me like most new yorkers are plain spoken and like people who are blunt and rough around the edges.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:03 PM (DKV43)

226 Call me overthinking this, but there has been very little reported contact between O'Donnell and Castle.

The only way the Republicans have anything in the top seats is if ODonnell pulls off a miracle and wins on her own...or if something sucks up support from Coons.

Castle is a RINO, but he also likes party power- it would be the first time in 40 years Deaware doesnt have a Republican in a top spot.
How do you ensure it?
You divide the moderate and dem vote. You run the chance of still winning, but you also make it harder for the Democrat.

THIS is why he didn't endorse Coons.

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:03 PM (lV4Fs)

227 Vote Castle! we need moderates bla blah - and that Odonnell chick is CRAZY!! bla bla bla.

Posted by: not drew. m at September 22, 2010 09:04 PM (ZVCC+)

228 GOTV?

DE has the union storm troops.

We DO have the NRA! What else? Who the fuck knows.

Posted by: Kemp at September 22, 2010 09:04 PM (AQxTm)

229 How is voting for O'Donnel "impulsive" as opposed to voting for Castle?

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:04 PM (g+4m8)

230 I don't think DE is all that liberal outside of inner Wilmington maybe? New Castle County is and it's where 66% of the population is. She may indeed win the southern counties but that's not enough of Coons gets >60 in NCC as he likely will (Castle lost his primary by not meeting his own campaign's target projections for NCC, likely because they underestimated turnout. He needed around 60% he got ~57). And that's assuming she would blow him in Kent Sussex like she did Castle. If she doesn't, the math gets even more difficult.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 09:04 PM (uCjoj)

231 My problem with this though is... I was just talking to a friend about Bielat in MA. Now, on paper, maybe he's sorta within striking distance, but the Republicans haven't even contested that CD in 20 frickin' years. NO GROUND GAME at all.

None? Don't be such a gloomy little furball.

Posted by: Scott Brown's campaign manager at September 22, 2010 09:07 PM (SwkdU)

232 Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:01 PM (DKV43)

Her campaign should hire you! That's better than what I hear from campaign managers and speechwriters.

That's another point I can't stand - all these people hire campaign "experts" who seem to be totally clueless about what's going on down on the ground. It was McCain's problem and is shaping up to be Whitman's problem here in CA. (And her people were McCain's people. What does that tell you?)

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (gofDd)

233 I consider this a good case of: if you go with an "outsider" then he/she needs to be a strong outsider. Miller and Rubio? Strong outsiders. O'Donnell and Paladino? Not so much.

Posted by: unknown jane at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (5/yRG)

234 Weren't people in the Republican party oh-so-worried that the Tea Party was going to break off and form a third party, thus draining votes from them and ensuring a permanent Democrat majority in Congress?
Now who's "going" third party?
And if Castle does this, how does he get funding? The RNC can't give him money, right? He shouldn't have access to their mailing lists/databases either. I don't know what the protocol is for unspent money in a campaign coffer if a candidate loses, but it would seem that if that money were raised under the auspices of a particular political party, they wouldn't be too keen to see that money leave the party......

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (ZuXtZ)

235 Hey Hoss. Your Gmail is backed up. Looking to head to the meetup.

Posted by: Want to Go at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (AYAWx)

236 I thought that I saw that O'Donnel polled better among independents than Castle. I think you are missing the the anger at Obama out there.
You still have not made a coherent case FOR Castle....is there any issue he's a conservative on? I expect some Republicans up north to be socially liberal or silent, but Castle was anti-tax cuts, pro-cap and trade, pro-Obamacare, etc? You can't make the case he's some moderate like you can with Brown, Romney, etc.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (g+4m8)

237 GOTV?DE has the union storm troops. We DO have the NRA! What else? Who the fuck knows.
don't confuse the NRA with the Republicans. Here in Pennsylvania they endorse as many, if not more, democrats than republicans.
Hell they endorsed harry reid every year until this year.
We don't have an organization for GOTV.
Hopefully the Tea Party takes changes that forever.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (DKV43)

238 155 141 What about Liebermann in CT? He went indy and beat a known Marxist in 2006 (Lamont). If Lamont had won 4 years ago Obama would have probably gotten a public option into his HCR bill, making it even worse.

Lieberman was a unique case. What he went through doesn't apply to Delaware.

Posted by: joejm65 at September 22, 2010 09:09 PM (QEi6M)

239 have quite a few lapsed/liberal Catholics in Delaware (e.g. Joe Biden)

The guilt! It burns!

They need to convert to Episcopalian. All of the forgiveness and half the guilt!

/Stolen shamelessly from Robin Williams.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 09:09 PM (gofDd)

240 They'll take my fap-fapmacher when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

Posted by: Pullin Spud at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (g4J4S)

241 Ace, sent you more ooooh-my Republican tsunami maps. Hard to do a national one because of the size of the original file and the small size of some of the 117 vulnerable Democratic seats.

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (lV4Fs)

242 1. Doing a write in is usually difficult here. Most
of the machines can't support it, so you have to ask for a supplemental
ballot.
2. When polling showed a two way race between Castle and
Coons, Castle led by about ten points, as we all knew. But we have no
idea if Coons voters (Dems and liberal Republicans and some Indies) will
bother to do the write in. Dems are notorious for straight ticket
voting.

My primary concern is that she beat him in a primary by
six%. If he bleeds off any appreciable support from the Republicans, she
can't win.


Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:02 PM (1O93r)
I think Blue Hen, as a lifetime resident of the Diamond State and New Castle County, has a much more nuanced, charitable view of how Democratic/liberal/moderate voters in this state vote. I've only been here for 5 years, and all I see among them are slack-jawed, hive-mind fuckheads.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (UYJNK)

243 Posted by: The Hammer


Alright. I'll keep my eyes open for a Carolina Meetup announcement/query.

I'd volunteer a place in my neck of the woods, but I don't think I'm very conveniently located. (We do have a few decent restaurants, though.)

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (EHI/u)

244 Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (gofDd)

I've been doing a lot of reading about the chris cox, demos, randy race against bishop out east. Mainly because tattoo is driving me nuts. Anyway, I have made a lot of phone calls, trying to find out what is going on out there. I was surprised to find out that mcShame sent a team to help cox and then they all suddenly quit and left. Still trying to find out why. But I'm not surprised since look what the mcshame team did to Sarah Palin.

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (p302b)

245 The real question here: Has Ace finally bought into the "ruling class" concept?

Because, you know, that's just crazy talk.

Never mind Murkowski, Crist, Castle . . .

Posted by: tsj017 at September 22, 2010 09:10 PM (vOH26)

246 And really, is masturbation and gay rights the thing of utmost importance right now?
Yes. Maybe not in that order, but yes.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at September 22, 2010 09:11 PM (vbh31)

247 Is a bitter clinger like a dingleberry?If so, Castle fits the bill.

Posted by: Museisluse at September 22, 2010 09:12 PM (DTfXb)

248 Stolen shamelessly from Robin Williams.My favorite Hollywood liberal. Few people entertain the troops more than he has.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 09:12 PM (uCjoj)

249 No way this helps O'Donnell...

Among likely voters...
Coons/Castle = 37/55
Coons/O'Donnell=55/39

Coons picks up 18 percent when O'Donnell runs instead of Castle. If Castle come's back, he will presumably get the entire 18 percent back from Coons...

Coons/Castle/O'Donnell = 37/18/39

He will then get some of the O'Donnell voters who stayed with her because she is an R, but who would have preferred Castle. If he gets just 1 in 20 of her voters, she falls below 37 and Coons wins.

And, of course, this doesn't even factor in the impact on voter turnout, etc. A lot of people will just say to hell with it and stay home if its split like this.

Posted by: DaveS at September 22, 2010 09:12 PM (mAp1o)

250 Hey Hoss. Your Gmail is backed up. Looking to head to the meetup.

Posted by: Want to Go at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (AYAWx)
Try again. Had a few problems with it earlier tonight. If for some reason you still can't email me (pinkertonrk1 at gmail dot com), it'll be 11/6 at 7pm at Iron Hill Brewery on the Wilmington Riverfront. I'll need a rough headcount by Friday so I can make a reservation.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 09:13 PM (UYJNK)

251 Call me overthinking this, but there has been very little reported contact between O'Donnell and Castle.

The only way the Republicans have anything in the top seats is if
ODonnell pulls off a miracle and wins on her own...or if something sucks
up support from Coons.

Castle is a RINO, but he also likes party power- it would be the
first time in 40 years Deaware doesnt have a Republican in a top spot.
How do you ensure it?
You divide the moderate and dem vote. You run the chance of still winning, but you also make it harder for the Democrat.

THIS is why he didn't endorse Coons.

Posted by: CAC



So if the vermin wins, he's the guy who came back from the dead.
If she wins, he was the kingmaker.
If Coons wins, then he claims that he never did anything directly
I'm gonna be sick.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:13 PM (1O93r)

252 Must be the third nipple?
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2010 08:54 PM (gHX8g)
..............
damn.......... Run has 3 nipples? how many does Lacey have?

Posted by: Racefan at September 22, 2010 09:13 PM (Pn2oB)

253 The beauty of a write-in campaign is that the candidate doesn't have to do anything. It can be waged on his behalf.

The Miller/Mercowsky thing is bad because Miller will win in a walk, not because Merc will cause any damage except requiring Miller to spend some money.

In this race, O'Donnell has a huge uphill climb and if she isn't going to get the Castle endorsement, at least he can siphon off votes.

And from his point of view, he should do it to keep two bad candidates from going to the Senate.

Beau Biden also wants this to happen so that he has a clear field in 2014.

Go Mark Cassel!

Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2010 09:13 PM (3wPsb)

254 What about Liebermann in CT? He went indy and beat a known Marxist in 2006 (Lamont). If Lamont had won 4 years ago Obama would have probably gotten a public option into his HCR bill, making it even worse. Lieberman was a unique case. What he went through doesn't apply to Delaware.
Also, Connecticut is one of four states that doesn't have a sore loser law. So he was able to get on the ballot as an independent. Had he been forced to run as a write in he would have lost. Also the Republicans did him a favor by not really backing the Republican candidate and behind the scenes endorsing Lieberman.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:14 PM (DKV43)

255 Let me try that again... ignore the previous post...

No way this helps O'Donnell...

Among likely voters...
Coons/Castle = 37/55
Coons/O'Donnell=55/39

Coons
picks up 18 percent when O'Donnell runs instead of Castle. If Castle
come's back, he will presumably get the entire 18 percent back from
Coons...

Coons/Castle/O'Donnell = 37/39/39

He will then
get some of the O'Donnell voters who stayed with her because she is an
R, but who would have preferred Castle. If he gets just 1 in 20 of her
voters, she falls below 37 and Castle actually wins.

Posted by: DaveS at September 22, 2010 09:14 PM (mAp1o)

256 The sad fact remains.
This seat will be Beau Biden's in 2014 if he wants it.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (DKV43)

257 Seems like gay rights and abortion rights are the two issues that most animate your average Democrat voter. A lot of them vote for Democrats only for those issues.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (g+4m8)

258 253
Will do. Count one more in. I'll send the mail now. Thanks!!

Posted by: Want to Go at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (AYAWx)

259 Shit. Nevermind, my first one was right... good grief. I suck.

Posted by: DaveS at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (mAp1o)

260 Also the Republicans did him a favor by not really backing the Republican candidate and behind the scenes endorsing Lieberman.Heh. I remember when Ken Mehlman refused to endorse Schlessinger on MTP. It was slightly less than subtle.The Republicans in CT helped too, though, by nominating a RonPaul-ish figure in Schlessinger.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (uCjoj)

261 So if the vermin wins, he's the guy who came back from the dead.If she wins, he was the kingmaker.If Coons wins, then he claims that he never did anything directlyI'm gonna be sick.


Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:13 PM (1O93r)
Another reason to come to PuddingCon. Worst case, you can drown your sorrows in sweet, sweet Pig Iron Porter.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 22, 2010 09:15 PM (UYJNK)

262 215...Ace, I'm to the right on you on several issues. Having said that, I certainly understand the WFB rule and its pragmatic application.

Where I would say we differ is this...I truly think we're on the precipice. In fact, we may already be in the abyss. Hard to say for sure. Regardless, the continuing leftward lurch that Castle and his ilk would allow, should he be the senator, is right of Coons, almost certainly, but not, IMO, enough to make an appreciable difference and STOP the slide.

IOW, we are in 2 minute drill, hail-mary, better dead than red territory. We just can't afford not to risk it. If our majority is built on Castle's and Megfluskies, there is no reversal of the slide...a slight slowing, perhaps, but the republic still capsizes, IMO.

Posted by: The Hammer at September 22, 2010 09:16 PM (32ubA)

263 OT: Heh, lorreta Sanchez was on univision whining that the Vietnamese are trying to take away her house seat.
If that's true she better be careful, I've had some experience and those little bastards bite.
It's a hot air. Democrats=identity politics.

Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2010 09:16 PM (fwSHf)

264 Too bad there isn't a Green party write in for Delaware.

Posted by: unknown jane at September 22, 2010 09:17 PM (5/yRG)

265
What I can't get over is that people who should know are all saying she can't win. And, it sure looks like she shouldn't be able to. But a little more than 100 large in the last 12 hours? 2.2 million in a week? That's either smart money from somewhere or a very large number of very pissed off people.

... of course, the contribution numbers could all be Babara Streisand. But, I'm thinking not. Even those thumbsuckers at CNN would have stumbled onto that one by now and they're still stuck on the witch thing.

My analysis: Nobody knows what's going on in Delaware.

Now I have this Yankee girl who damn near drives me crazy!
OH
Haul away and up she rises
Haul away and up she rises
Haul away and up she rises
Early in the morning!

Helm a lee!

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at September 22, 2010 09:18 PM (UL/HQ)

266 Blue Hen, take solace in the Democratic Mass Extinction Scenerio.
This is the electoral map w/ R+9 generic AND fully-funded Republican candidates. Wishfull thinking but a very exciting thing to look at:
http://tinyurl.com/2578wog

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:18 PM (lV4Fs)

267 (btw that is the midwest only)

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:18 PM (lV4Fs)

268 >>OT: Heh, lorreta Sanchez was on univision whining that the Vietnamese are trying to take away her house seat.


Ace should do a post on that.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 22, 2010 09:19 PM (Y81Xa)

269 how many does Lacey have?
more than one and less than seven, I'd imagine.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2010 09:19 PM (gHX8g)

270 The WFB rule can't be applied to Castle unless you consider Castle some type of conservative. I have not seen the PRAGMATIC among us make the conservative case for Castle. I don't think it's even legit to say he was more electable after he got a beatdown in the primary to the O'Donnel. That should have been a close primary if DE is so leftwing that OBama's boy Castle is the best we can do.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:20 PM (g+4m8)

271

155
141 What about Liebermann in CT? He went indy and beat a known Marxist
in 2006 (Lamont). If Lamont had won 4 years ago Obama would have
probably gotten a public option into his HCR bill, making it even worse.


Posted by: Chris R at September 22, 2010 08:44 PM (AO4qz)
There's a HUGE difference between getting your name on the ballot and running a write in campaign.

Lieberman got his name on the ballot as an Independent.

Hope that helps, dummy.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 22, 2010 09:20 PM (7+pP9)

272 I always hold out hope that he finally makes the full switch to R but it's unrealistic. There really is no party for him anymore. He's too liberal domestically to fit in the Republican Party and too rational on national security to be accepted by Democrats. In many ways, it's kind of sad.

Lieberman is a head-to-toe Democrat. The rest of the Dims shared his national security stance until they found it would be politically expedient to go full-blown treason to get the support of shit-sucking Code Pink liberals. When the rest of the 'yeah' war votes starting going 'Bush lied, kids died', Lieberman stood his ground. And, he won his general election rather easily. He's a Democrat sharing the stage with a group of insane people. But, he's still a Democrat.

Posted by: joejm65 at September 22, 2010 09:21 PM (QEi6M)

273
I think Blue Hen, as a lifetime resident of the
Diamond State and New Castle County, has a much more nuanced, charitable
view of how Democratic/liberal/moderate voters in this state vote.
I've only been here for 5 years, and all I see among them are
slack-jawed, hive-mind fuckheads.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes

You and I are in agreement actually. For Castle to be of help, he has to get Coons voters to write in for him. Most of them won't bother to do more than voting a staright Dem ticket. People will pick and choose between the parties here; it's how Castle won when the Senators, and Governor were all Dems. But he was on the board, not a write in. I'm not aware of ANYBODY ever scoring more than 1-2% of the vote via write in here.

P.S. Those cops are full of shit. Three words: Joe Biden. He's a Catholic, and so is O'Donnell. One just happens to mean it. And given the mess that cops clean up every day, I doubt that this is problem number#1 for them; it's a lack of religion. Union benefits would probably be higher priority. ANd she has no 'union credentials'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:21 PM (1O93r)

274 Ace, if it's the GOTV that's lacking in these states, isn't it better to mount an effort to educate our people on how to get this done, rather than write off the country to sloth?

People will do what needs done if it is explained to them. I don't know the best ways to do this stuff, but I always call at least 5 people that I know will vote the way I want and ask them to make sure and vote. Then I ask them to call five other people and ask the same thing. I'm no social butterfly, and people are usually surprised that I called them, and I don't think that is a bad thing. If it's important enough for me to call them, they might think about how important it is to them, also. If one person out of five calls people and asks them the same thing, you've done something. If all five call, you might want to consider running yourself next time.

This is just one stupid idea from an untrained sub-moron. Think of all the good that could come from you contacting your heavy hitters to put us on to some knowledge?

Don't give up without a fight, the bruises hurt way more if you didn't do all you could to make the other side pay for their fun.

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 09:22 PM (9tt+Z)

275 Blue Hen...
DME Scenerio, Deep South.
http://tinyurl.com/26vcg7k
It looks like the floor of a slaughter house.

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:23 PM (lV4Fs)

276 I think Lieberman is one of the biggest pork spenders in the Senate. He doesn't shoot off at the mouth like a lot of Democrats but that doesn't mean he's not insane on politics.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:24 PM (g+4m8)

277 (the maps are races with at least a 25% chance of flipping in bright red to show the transformation from current congressional representation)
These do NOT include the recent stuff out of AZ and MA showing long-term Democrats in serious trouble- they were compiled before Monday.

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:26 PM (lV4Fs)

278 Blue Hen, take solace in the Democratic Mass Extinction Scenerio.
This is the electoral map w/ R+9 generic AND fully-funded Republican
candidates. Wishfull thinking but a very exciting thing to look at:
http://tinyurl.com/2578wog


Posted by: CAC

That's a very pretty thing.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:29 PM (1O93r)

279 Maybe they believe she will actually get an anti masturbation bill through the house and senate and Obama will sign it but I doubt it.
Posted by: robtr at September 22, 2010 08:51 PM (fwSHf)
________________________________________________
Hell, its probably already in the new health care law somewhere.

Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2010 09:29 PM (7faB0)

280 At some point Republicans are going to have to start making the conservative case in blue states. It seems like the GOP expects the South and Midwestern states to save the day in every election. Democratics don't write off states like Republicans seem to do. I never thought Obama would win NC and Virginia, even with en bloc voting by the large black population.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:29 PM (g+4m8)

281 Teddy Roosevelt looked like an ass when he did this too. Tell these guys they can run in the "Bull-Moose Party". Castle can be the Bull and Mercowsky can be the Moose.

Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2010 09:33 PM (nO92n)

282 #283
Which is why a push in Illinois, California, Washington, and New York is critical this year. Between those four states we have 19 potential congressional pickups, 4 senate seats, 3 governors mansions. ALSO winning gets a presence there and makes the 2012 election NOT a foregone conclusion as to where the swing states actually are.

Posted by: CAC at September 22, 2010 09:33 PM (lV4Fs)

283 O/T: Randy reads like a dem and, he was endorsed by mittens. NYer's aren't fond of mittens. If you love rudy and most NYer's do love Rudy, you just aren't fond of mittens.

The Fulbright, very chelsea and bill clintonesque....

Essentially randy like a true dem who said "hmm I want to run for office so where can I settle and try and get myself elected". Bishop is like an old pari of shoes, you may not want to wear them, you might want to buy a new pair but, in the end, at least you know how your feet will feel when you walk in the old pair.

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 09:34 PM (p302b)

284 At some point Republicans are going to have to start making the conservative case in blue states. It seems like the GOP expects the South and Midwestern states to save the day in every election. Democratics don't write off states like Republicans seem to do. I never thought Obama would win NC and Virginia, even with en bloc voting by the large black population. \
Howard Dean - 50 state strategy.
At the time, most “experts” thought Dean was wasting time and resources. Turned out to be a lot more perceptive than the “experts”.

Of course, the key to Dean’s success was to recruit Democrats who could talk conservative to run in places like Montana, Alabama, etc.

Not trying to start a fight…..just saying.

Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 09:34 PM (OWjjx)

285 The sad fact remains.
This seat will be Beau Biden's in 2014 if he wants it.
Posted by: Ben
Can we please finish having the shipwreck before we start worrying about the scurvy, mass insanity and headhunters four years off?
And drinking our own piss. Musn't forget that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:35 PM (1O93r)

286 What's interesting to me about Washington state is they have no state income tax, so it seems like it would be a conservative state. But lot of environmental activists types I guess.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:35 PM (g+4m8)

287 He isn't a RINO he is a MYNO...

Posted by: RecklessProcess at September 22, 2010 09:36 PM (f7ylG)

288 have 19 potential congressional pickups, 4 senate seats, 3 governors mansions. ALSO winning gets a presence there and makes the 2012 election NOT a foregone conclusion as to where the swing states actually are.
And redistriciting.......which makes you more competitive (or at least not less competitive) in Congressional Races. Plus, your bench (how much have you heard about a lack of GOP bench) comes from State Senate/House races.

Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 09:36 PM (OWjjx)

289 "How did the Koch brothers' private IRS information get leaked out...."
question on batchelor

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 09:36 PM (p302b)

290 If Va, NC, Ohio, and Florida go back REpublican in 2012, Obama loses right? I don't think he wins those states twice.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:37 PM (g+4m8)

291 What's interesting to me about Washington state is they have no state income tax, so it seems like it would be a conservative state. But lot of environmental activists types I guess.
Three Words…….Seattle, Washington

Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 09:37 PM (OWjjx)

292 That's true, a lot of states like Washington, Oregon, Delaware seem to be really just one city states in terms of population.Democrats seem to win most of those one city states.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:41 PM (g+4m8)

293 I never thought Obama would win NC and Virginia, even with en bloc voting by the large black population.
And the yankee transplants.

Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2010 09:41 PM (nO92n)

294 I think Christine can get elected in DE cause she seems to be a female joe biden with an r after her name. DE seems to like those kind of candidates. Has she been to the home depot? Is she talking about loins?

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 09:42 PM (p302b)

295 I would think the Yankee transplants would be mostly Republican, escaping the north due to high taxes and high cost of living due to liberal policies. But NC has defintely gone left in recent years.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:43 PM (g+4m8)

296 Apparently he didn't get the nice fruit basket Mitch McConnell sent him.

Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 09:43 PM (osFsP)

297 O'Donnel has never said anything as stupid as Biden telling a paralyzed man in a wheelchair to stand up for the crowd at some speech.Maybe Castle is the best we can do because people in DE are retards?

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:44 PM (g+4m8)

298 Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 09:08 PM (DKV43)

That's right Ben, the NRA isn't a Republican organization. It's a single issue outfit dedicated to the protection of the 2nd Amendment. They back the candidate that is pro-gun. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THEM ON OUR SIDE THIS TIME! I'm not disappointed in NRA when they support a democrat, I'm pissed at the Republicans for supporting an anti-gun candidate. Having the NRA on our side is a good thing.

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 09:47 PM (9tt+Z)

299 Beau!
He is the proof of the pudding in this state. And not the good pudding. Guy took 3 or more times to pass the State Bar and had something like 5 years in as an Attorney and the butthead voters of De. voted him AG.

Cause they liked his name.

Posted by: The capital at September 22, 2010 09:48 PM (ENRGu)

300 oops

Posted by: Kidney at September 22, 2010 09:49 PM (ENRGu)

301 O'Donnel should win the election if only because nobody ever talked or cared about DE before O'Donnel.She put it back on the map. People in DE owe her.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:50 PM (g+4m8)

302 I like how DE charges you 4 bucks to use I-95 in their state. Despite all the taxes and the user fee, the interstate through DE still sucks.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:52 PM (g+4m8)

303 O'Donnel has never said anything as stupid as
Biden telling a paralyzed man in a wheelchair to stand up for the crowd
at some speech.Maybe Castle is the best we can do because people in DE
are retards?

Posted by: Matt X

We heard that. That frickin' toll will be a sweet $5 next time!

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:54 PM (1O93r)

304 Apparently he didn't get the nice fruit basket Mitch McConnell sent him.

Posted by: Y-not

We need to send him pineapples. With suggestions.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 09:55 PM (1O93r)

305 Maryland already hits you up for 5 bucks on 95 on the way out, basically to go over a bridge. Maryland can show people in DE how to go full retard.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:56 PM (g+4m8)

306 Is Mitch McConnel that bad? I see a lot of conservatives trashing him but I would have bought into the electablity argument if McConnel was running against O'Donnel, not Obama's bucket boy Castle.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 09:57 PM (g+4m8)

307 That 4 dollar toll charge in DE is probably the state's only industry.The toll attendants are probably the highest paying jobs in the state. Let's face it, nobody goes to DE, people go through DE to get to the Big Apple.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:00 PM (g+4m8)

308 O/T: Greta and Sarah talking about lolita mulkowski now

Posted by: curious at September 22, 2010 10:05 PM (p302b)

309 Va, NC, Ohio, and FloridaHas to get CO NV or flip IA back just off the top of my head.
As for Virginia, it's not the ruby red state it was. Northern Virginia has slipped away from Republicans. Partly due to demographics and partly because of a "write off everything north of the Occoquan" strategy the state Party had. Judging by 2009, we've learned our lesson on that.

Posted by: Chris in va at September 22, 2010 10:08 PM (uCjoj)

310 I thought Greta used to be a huge kooky lib prior to join Fox News. I guess Fox paid a lot more and she changed her tune.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:08 PM (g+4m8)

311 Well, not much we can do about northern VA as that is kind of the liberal Mecca although the GOPshould be able to hold their own out in the suburbs like Manasass.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:11 PM (g+4m8)

312 I don't think Iowa has ever been a consistent red state. Probably will stay blue as long as ethanol is an issue.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:12 PM (g+4m8)

313 Matt X: "That 4 dollar toll charge in DE is probably the state's only industry."

Nah. Legal incorporation and business law.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2010 10:14 PM (swuwV)

314 i think what Ace is trying to say is that canditates such as Castle should be vetted for suitability. Whoops! Ace didnt say that about Castle, he said it about C.Odonnel.

Posted by: not drew. m at September 22, 2010 10:17 PM (ZVCC+)

315 Well, not much we can do about northern VA as that is kind of the liberal Mecca although the GOPshould be able to hold their own out in the suburbs like Manasass. You have to contest NoVa. It sounds stupid but the state party really had the mentality of "fuck it". The Glorious True Conservative Party Chairman Jeff Frederick thought NoVA wasn't "real Virginia" and made that known (as did McCain's aide Nancy Pfotenheimer in 0. One of the smartest things Bob McDonnell did was kicking his sorry ass to the curb early last year. Transportation is the key issue. That's what you can appeal to voters on. That and fiscal issues. Social stuff is poison. You won't win Alexandria, Arlington, and Falls Church, but you need to win Loudoun, have to win Prince William, and should be at least solidly competitive in Fairfax (the most populous county in the state and the second wealthiest in the nation). Republicans started losing Fairfax in the early 00's, starting with Early/Warner in 01. John Warner was the last to carry it statewide in '02, iirc. In 2008, McCain got blown out by a 60-39 margin in Fairfax. You cannot win Virginia with that kind of sorry ass performance. By contrast, McDonnell carried Fairfax51-49.
The other area in the state that switched in 08 was Hampton Roads and that was primarily about black turnout. Last year it swung wildly back to the Republicans (McDonnell got 63% in Virginia Beach City iirc).

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 10:18 PM (uCjoj)

316 I think Castle hassomething on Ace. I intend to expose the truth, write a book about it, and make a lot of money.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:19 PM (g+4m8)

317 I would think Virginia would be pretty conservative with all the Department of Defense contracters that hire a lot of engineers and former military guys. I can't see a whole lot of liberals working at Newport News Shipyard or Lockheed Martin, etc.

Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:22 PM (g+4m8)

318 Ace --

You are a wonderful human being and a fine American -- but you are just pulling these numbers out of your ass.

If Castle decides at the end of September to run a write-in campaign, no one can say how it will cut against the other candidates.

No one knows what crazy (or inspired) thing one of them may say or do between now and then (or by election day).

Similarly, no one knows what exogenous events may affect the race (terrorist attacks, economic shocks, the sudden death of Snooki, whatever) between now and then..

Whistling doesn't get you by the graveyard -- it just wakes up the zombies.

So quit with the fucking whistling, will ya?

Posted by: Old Georgetowner at September 22, 2010 10:28 PM (Wqm8Q)

319 would think Virginia would be pretty conservative with all the Department of Defense contracters that hire a lot of engineers and former military guys. I can't see a whole lot of liberals working at Newport News Shipyard or Lockheed Martin, etc. Parts are parts aren't. Much of Hampton Roads is indeed quite conservative because of the military presence. The parts that aren't have a high percentage of minorities which obviously we don't do well with.
As for Nothern Virginia, the dynamics are different depending upon the locale. Arlington has a high transient population (many lobbyists) and many fit the "yuppie" stereotype. Young, educated, wealthy, typically single liberals. They do not vote our way. Alexandria has this dynamic but to a slightly diminished degree but also has a relatively decent sized minority population. This time mainly Hispanic but they still aren't that friendly to us, so on.

Posted by: Chris in Va at September 22, 2010 10:32 PM (uCjoj)

320 Posted by: Matt X at September 22, 2010 10:12 PM (g+4m

Jeebus crinkles, I can't believe the way you guys grab on to the ethanol meme.

Republicans pay off on ethanol as well as Democrats, and they pay off a lot better on bio diesel than this current crop of democrats.

Add that to the fact that Iowa picked O'fuckno and the huckster in the last primaries, and you can't say that Iowa is blue because of ethanol. I personally have investigated this matter, and Iowa is Blue bECAUSE IT'S FULL OF FUCKING RETARDED WISH THEY WERE FRENCH DUMBASSES.

That, of course, might be a little too scientific for the average layman, but I tried.

Best regards,

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 10:59 PM (9tt+Z)

321 Whistling doesn't get you by the graveyard -- it just wakes up the zombies.

So quit with the fucking whistling, will ya?


Posted by: Old Georgetowner at September 22, 2010 10:28 PM (Wqm8Q)
That, right there, is classic. And funny. I believe I will have to steal it.

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 11:04 PM (9tt+Z)

322
As for Virginia, it's not the ruby red state it
was. Northern Virginia has slipped away from Republicans. Partly due to
demographics and partly because of a "write off everything north of the
Occoquan" strategy the state Party had. Judging by 2009, we've learned
our lesson on that.


Posted by: Chris in va at September 22, 2010 10:08 PM (uCjoj)
--A helluva lot of northern Virginians are carpetbaggers. 'Nuff said.As for Hampton Roads (my birthplace), yes, very conservative/military. You wanna joke, see Bobby Scott's ridiculously gerrymandered district. My conservative dad's stuck there.

Posted by: logprof, native Virginian at September 22, 2010 11:05 PM (BP6Z1)

323 Well, he's got the benefit of having a name that's easier to spell.

Seriously, this is bullshit. Let these turds "run".

I am curious to see what level of enthusiasm they can drum up. I'm thinking.... their immediate families. If they're lucky.

Posted by: meep at September 22, 2010 11:33 PM (Jw4eT)

324 The War Between the Undead States at September 22, 2010 11:21 PM (ETyv1)

I guess I have to ask WTF are you talking about? And why are you so giddy in the prospect of her loss? I hate when I lose my objective, apparently you like it?

Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at September 22, 2010 11:58 PM (9tt+Z)

325 See how they are. F the rinos!! Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely!

Posted by: lou at September 23, 2010 12:41 AM (AwCWP)

326 Rinos.......just can't give up their bad Democrat habit of hatin on Conservatives. They gotta be in the ring, everyday, fightin the good fight against liberty!

Are they addicted?

Or maybe it just gets them off.




Posted by: pam at September 23, 2010 12:44 AM (h8R9p)

327 331 Rinos.......just can't give up their bad Democrat habit of hatin on Conservatives. They gotta be in the ring, everyday, fightin the good fight against liberty!Are they addicted?Or maybe it just gets them off.
Posted by: pam at September 23, 2010 12:44 AM (h8R9p)

Nope, they are all the same bad apple!!

Posted by: lou at September 23, 2010 12:47 AM (AwCWP)

328 Frankly, it was a shame---an injustice, really---that a venerable, lifelong public
servant was denied a senate seat. He deserved it. Why, he could have spent
six years growing in his brand new office until, fertilized by the MSM, he morphed
from squish to squash. Who knows, he might even have grown too big
for the Republican party.
Denied his due by a bratty eccentric* and her naive cultists.
It is . . . remarkable.
*"She was like a total brat," said one of her childhood girlfriends,
speaking on the condition of anonymity. "I mean, like, she would
always, um, like interrupt me, and stuff. You know?"

Posted by: Aleister van Ozzy at September 23, 2010 12:48 AM (/G7zO)

329 This is pathetic. Good god, go home and spend time withyou're neglected family and children! Do it for the children!! TEE HEE

Posted by: lou at September 23, 2010 12:53 AM (AwCWP)

330 Bear in mind, Castle will bleed off a hell of lot more Coons voters than O'Donnell voters. In fact, I imagine it would be something like 80/20.

Well, that's the problem in a nutshell, isn't it? The same people who like a self-described "bearded Marxist" like Castle.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 23, 2010 12:54 AM (XIXhw)

331 I am so not surprised, they are all the same. Thank God for the American people who chose to wake up and confront this evil that is the washington elite, and just in time, I might add!

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333 Hey wait a minute maybe with Crist taking more votes from Meek, Murkowski taking more from the Dem in Alaska and now Castle, hmmmmmmmm maybe this is some grand secret right wing strategy.........nah just sore loser centrists..........or are they : )

Posted by: bobbymike at September 23, 2010 02:25 AM (WWQLs)

334 Really, he should run. The conservatives hate him anyway. He is only going to get Liberals. and even if he wins he is better then Coons. Win Win here... He is still a slime bag though.

Posted by: Mike at September 23, 2010 08:05 AM (D3MNp)

335 An epiphany Ace?

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