Ugh: Princess Linda McKullsey Keeps Her Position
Russ was wondering about this -- what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in the Lame Duck session?Yeah, I guess that's what they thought. Still sucks. Thanks to Melissa Tweets.
1 How much money does Miller have?
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 22, 2010 03:08 PM (7rfUg)
2 Can't they just lock her in a closet somewhere until after January 20th?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2010 03:09 PM (9Cooa)
3 Its the senate. Just filibuster until January.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2010 03:10 PM (z1N6a)
4 Oh yeah, almost forgot...
What a fucking power-mad cunt!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2010 03:10 PM (9Cooa)
5 NRSC- Dead!
RNC - Dead!
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 22, 2010 03:10 PM (LdYLm)
6 GOP makes a gutless move? I'm shocked, shocked.
Posted by: just dandy at September 22, 2010 03:10 PM (lVK3L)
7 Louise Machlowski = Veruca Salt.
Posted by: aquaviva at September 22, 2010 03:10 PM (TRx/d)
8 The RNC really could fuck up a wet dream.
Posted by: billygoat at September 22, 2010 03:11 PM (5qJM5)
9 It's an idiotic decision.
I guess what they are thinking about is she's not going to be in DC for the next two weeks anyway, so why piss her off if they need her in the lame duck.
Or, they just think she's a swell person and those tea party types are trash so fuck 'em.
Either way...not a good idea.
Posted by: DrewM. at September 22, 2010 03:11 PM (U1NcL)
10 Ugh: Princess Linda McKullsey Keeps Her PositionRuss was wondering about this -- what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in the Lame Duck session?Yeah, I guess that's what they thought. Still sucks.Thanks to Melissa Tweets.Posted by: Ace at 03:06 PM
Be pragmatic Ace, not so maximalist.
With current polls, the risk of Miller losing his race is very low.
The risk of getting spite votes in lame duck that make things like amnesty possible is much higher;
Objective risk management would dictate in this case that you mitigate the risk of spite votes by not throwing her to the curb as a matter of political practicality.
Prior to seeing the polls, I would have said, kick her to the curb; now that I've seen them, not pissing her off is the more prudent approach.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:13 PM (0q2P7)
11 #1. How much money does Miller have?
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 22, 2010 03:08 PM (7rfUg)
Not much, I don't think. He was interviewed by Hugh Hewitt (yesterday?) and he commented (if I recall) that he was way behind Veruca Salt in fundraising. He mentioned something about $"160,000".
She has way more than $1M to spend.
Posted by: aquaviva at September 22, 2010 03:13 PM (TRx/d)
12 They know that if she loses, she's gonna start voting with the Donks in the lame-duck session ANYWAY.
IDK what the Senate schedule is like, but the House is going into recess next week. If the Senate is similar, then they've let her stay on in exchange for 10 days of loyalty.
Posted by: The Q at September 22, 2010 03:13 PM (pfStM)
13 Sends a bad signal to the voters of Alaska unless the Repubs in the Senate wouldn't mind a write-in upset.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 22, 2010 03:13 PM (xtAfO)
14 This was dumb anyway. The R's aren't in the majority so who care's who's the minority leader of a committee? If Murky wins she will caucus with the Rs and they will not strip her of her seniority either.
The only way she loses anything is if she loses the race.
Posted by: Rocks at September 22, 2010 03:14 PM (Q1lie)
15 what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in
the Lame Duck session?
Um, wasn't she shown the door because she's already inclined to vote with the D's when they need her? And how does the GOP kissing her sorry butt now change the largely inevitable outcome that she will be rejected (again) by Alaska voters in November? I don't see the upside,
Posted by: Methos at September 22, 2010 03:15 PM (EQa35)
16 The Republican big tent is so big it apparently encompasses people running against Republican candidates.
Dats sum big tent, dat is....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 22, 2010 03:15 PM (OIw0R)
17 Sends a bad signal to the voters of Alaska unless the Repubs in the Senate wouldn't mind a write-in upset.
Hopefully if they can't see the pragmatic nature of the decision, they just take it as the establishment giving them the fat finger and vote Miller in droves as a result.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:16 PM (0q2P7)
18 It does suck, but MikeTheMoose makes a good point. The goal is to minimize the damage that Obama Company can cause before the house and, hopefully, the senate are in more rational hands. As much as everyone here would like to see her begging for quarters outside of the senate office building, if it's going to hurt the cause, why bother?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 22, 2010 03:16 PM (LH6ir)
19 So there are no consequences for disobeying your Party. Great.
I'm a "pragmatist" but based what was likely to come up for a vote and the fact that she is harder to get rid of than an undead, I would rather she voted with the Democrats so she can never run as a conservative again.
The GOP leadership needs to develop some spine.
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (osFsP)
20 Muchocrapski, "Careful! I'm about to be scorned!"
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (RkRxq)
21 Do these people have cotton for brains? Lily Manoaski should not be in charge of anything important from now till November...in fact, they should just stick her in the corner and ignore her.
Posted by: EmilyM. at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (jVGvd)
22 She's kamikazeing into their nominee, and they don't take away her committee power? WTF? The GOP has got less balls than I thought.
Posted by: Truman North at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (G5JPI)
23 This reminds me of why I love the Republican Party so much.
Let's say you kick her out, why would she vote Democratic party line knowing it would put a final nail in any chance she had to win the write in campaign.
Alaska isnt Pennsylvania. This isn't like Specter switiching and hoping to out lefty the left wing. She has to run as a moderate, and voting for democratic policies won't help her.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (wuv1c)
24 Princess Leah Mcfuckwit has really started something. The loser who lost the GOP primary for governor is going to announce on Monday if he is going to wage a write-in campaign.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 22, 2010 03:19 PM (7rfUg)
25 Um, wasn't she shown the door because she's already inclined to vote with the D's when they need her?
As far as I know she didn't vote for Stimulus, and didn't vote for Obamacare, and wouldn't vote for Cap and Trade, so while "imperfect" she makes the minimum grade.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:19 PM (0q2P7)
26 All those wrinkly old senators love her bangin' hawt looks, sothey're keeping their romantic options open until January when she'll finally be gone.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 22, 2010 03:21 PM (YVZlY)
27 Let's say you kick her out, why would she vote Democratic party line
knowing it would put a final nail in any chance she had to win the write
Here's a two things to think about that you obviously haven't given thought too.
1. Lame duck session AFTER she loses the general, AFTER the Democrats have been punished but are still in power.
2. Woman scorned....
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:21 PM (0q2P7)
28 I just read the CNN article.
Someone f'cking explain this to me.
We already know the lame duck session isn't going to be a Dem grab bag because there are 4 senate seats that will seat the new senators immediately, and we are going to win at least 1 of them.
At best this is the GOP hedging their bets. At worst, and what I suspect, this is the GOP helping Murkowski win a write in campaign
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:21 PM (wuv1c)
Do these people have cotton for brains? Lily Manoaski should not be in
charge of anything important from now till November...in fact, they
should just stick her in the corner and ignore her.
Posted by: EmilyM. at September 22, 2010 03:18 PM (jVGvd)
In case you have noticed no R senator has been in charge of anything important for awhile.
Posted by: Rocks at September 22, 2010 03:22 PM (Q1lie)
30 Why exactly do we still have a lame duck session? What would it harm the country for Congress to be in recess until January 3rd?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 22, 2010 03:22 PM (JxMoP)
31 I think this makes sense. McConnell has accepted her resignation from the leadership committee (separate from this committee). She is going to be gone in January anyway. Too much could anger fence-sitting Alaskans by appearing to be piling on.
Proof? Daavid Gregory and Politico are expecting this to cause disruption in the GOP with lots of PO'd tea party people. I would suggest ignoring this. It's no big deal and it is obvious to me that the press wants us to get all angry and stuff and strip her of everything, so that people will feel sorry for her.
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 22, 2010 03:22 PM (bixjr)
32 She's running against the Republican nominee. She is going to be running negative ads directed at him. How can they keep her in place? It's fucking retarded.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 22, 2010 03:22 PM (xtAfO)
33 With current polls, the risk of Miller losing his race is very low.The risk of getting spite votes in lame duck that make things like amnesty possible is much higher; Objective
risk management would dictate in this case that you mitigate the risk
of spite votes by not throwing her to the curb as a matter of political
Bingo. No room for error here. We can't afford to act emotionally with this scrunt.
Plus, it's a stick. If she steps one toe out of line, they can pull it.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2010 03:23 PM (3wPsb)
34 11 Not much, I don't think. He was interviewed by Hugh Hewitt (yesterday?) and he commented (if I recall) that he was way behind Veruca Salt in fundraising. He mentioned something about $"160,000".
Those who are so inclinedneed to start sending money to Miller. As for the Princess, remember who's the current minority leader. Perhaps they also figured they didn't want her running around and whining and moaning so close to the election.Of course, a real leader would have tried to silence that, but McConnell is not the aforementioned.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 22, 2010 03:23 PM (Yq+qN)
35 "I promise to punish rogue senators within the GOP. That said, Lisa does give awfully nice parties..."
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 22, 2010 03:23 PM (osFsP)
36 Considering how much douche baggage Lena Kowabungski carries, what difference would it make?
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2010 03:24 PM (GwPRU)
Push her too far? Vote with the Dems.
We cannot be allowed to be held hostage like this.
btw, a Democrat would not *dream* of doing this to the Democrats. We have a serious problem in leadership in the Senate.
Posted by: the serious comic at September 22, 2010 03:24 PM (uFokq)
38 what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in the Lame Duck session?
If she's such a reliable Republican voter, how did she get beat in the first place?
Posted by: maddogg at September 22, 2010 03:24 PM (OlN4e)
39 This is what she is going to campaign on. That she can bring back the pork because of her position, that the republicans are letter her keep.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:24 PM (wuv1c)
40 The GOP won't even tackle an openly traitorous member. We're supposed to believe that they're going to do anything about government bloat and creeping communism?
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 22, 2010 03:25 PM (xy9wk)
41 We promise to be principled and true to the American people! That said, why should we stop lying now?
Posted by: The GOP Leadership at September 22, 2010 03:25 PM (FcR7P)
42 "And I further promise to use my position as Senate minority leader to reign in those gals from Maine. That said, I do have a hankering for lobster."
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 22, 2010 03:25 PM (osFsP)
43 In case you have noticed no R senator has been in charge of anything important for awhile.
Posted by: Rocks at September 22, 2010 03:22 PM (Q1lie)
No one likes a nit-picker.
Posted by: EmilyM. at September 22, 2010 03:26 PM (jVGvd)
44 what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in the Lame Duck session?
Again, I was under the impression that at least four of the Senate seats up for grabs in november automatically seat the winner the next day.
So if we win 1 of those seats, that gives us 42 senators. That way if Kapowski defects, we still have 41 seats to filabuster a lame duck session.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:27 PM (wuv1c)
45 even Allahpundit over at HA can't believe this.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:28 PM (wuv1c)
46 I think it is a bunch of lame brain dead DC types STILL playing "conventional wisdom" and who do not have a clue as to what is going on outside the beltway.
What is the odds that she is going to fuck them in the lame duck session anyway if she loses?
She has already proven she is a damn sore loser so the odds are good she will fuck them.
Let's just pray that this isn't used by the assholes who support her in AK as ammunition for "keeping" her seat because AK considers this to be very important position for AK.
The AK liberal rag we are always linking to was eat up with this shit this morning.
Glory be to the Republican leadership. Never pass up a chance to throw away victory in hopes of being a permanent loser.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2010 03:28 PM (/jbAw)
47 Personally, I think the GOP is passing the chicken around again. Maybe they should dump the pachyderm and start using Colonel Sanders as the GOP mascot.
Posted by: maddogg at September 22, 2010 03:28 PM (OlN4e)
48 39 This is what she is going to campaign on. That she can bring back the
pork because of her position, that the republicans are letter her keep.
I hate to say it (because it's an oxymoron), but the GOP leadership is over-thinking this one.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 22, 2010 03:29 PM (osFsP)
49 Oh and who is Mike Castle attacking after his loss now? Democrats?
Of course not, Sean Hannity.
Look Castle, I agree Hannity is a douchebag, but at least he knows which direction he is supposed to fire in. Too bad the same can't be said for you.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:29 PM (wuv1c)
This represents EVERYTHING that's wrong with the GOP "establishment".
Collectively, they can't scrounge up the BALLS to do what is right –
strip this POS of every single position/committee membership she
I am NOT impressed with the "argument" she's likely to lose those
positions anyway. You lousy GOP leadership turds in Washington! Next
round is 2012. Next round we're coming after you
Posted by: alwyr at September 22, 2010 03:29 PM (w2++y)
51 go to hell Mitch McConnell (sockpuppet)
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 03:29 PM (osFsP)
52 What would it harm the country for Congress to be in recess until January 3rd? Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater
In a normal year, probably it would be fine for Congress to take extended leaves. However, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops that they're going on break again without a fucking budget.
Yes, that constitutionally required thing.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 22, 2010 03:29 PM (23kaI)
53 At best this is the GOP hedging their bets. At worst, and what I
suspect, this is the GOP helping Murkowski win a write in campaign
Snowe has already bad mouthed conservative extremism. How long before she starts building capital with her party to be? She voted for stimulus remember? And one version of Obamacare in committee; And watched Arlen go down in flames.
Collins Pretty much the same except she has until 2014 to face the music.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:30 PM (0q2P7)
54 Hey, I agree with the rest of you that Liza Slumpbusterooski sucks. Why I was just reminiscing the other day about the time she sucked so hard it made my butt pucker IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 22, 2010 03:30 PM (YVZlY)
55 Okay, is this a typo or is Drudge trying to be funny?
All the President's Hen...
Posted by: jmflynny at September 22, 2010 03:31 PM (QR5c+)
The possibility of her voting with the Dems (if she keeps her position) versus the CERTAINTY of her voting with the Dems (if she loses it).
It's Delaware ALL OVER AGAIN!!! YAY!!!!
Lets have a huge pragmatist/purist rumble out back. I'm bringing my purity blessed 2x4 with nails in it.
Posted by: s'moron at September 22, 2010 03:31 PM (UaxA0)
57 Allahpundit also makes the great point.
If she loses November 2, isn't she going to defect to the democrats anyway?
this makes no sense, there is no way to explain this, and worse yet, the GOP doesn't even offer an explanation.
I hope Cornyn and the group get enough phone calls and decide to strip her tomorrow.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:31 PM (wuv1c)
I just figured out the Republican strategy for 2010.
Can't We All Just Get Along?
Posted by: the serious comic at September 22, 2010 03:31 PM (uFokq)
Let's Not Make Waves
Posted by: the serious comic at September 22, 2010 03:32 PM (uFokq)
60 47 Personally, I think the GOP is passing the chicken around again. Maybe they should dump the pachyderm and start using Colonel Sanders as the GOP mascot.
It's the Senate and Mitch McConnell; what did you expect? When was the last time he took a stand for anything?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 22, 2010 03:32 PM (Yq+qN)
61 Pragmatism is one thing. Fatcat Republicans in D.C. giving Murcowflopski ammo (a position she can advertise) to use against the winning Republican nominee is cowardice.
What next? If Losah M. gets her ass handed to her again in November, will the the McConnell-led wimps let her keep her seat in the next session because the witch plays nice with them?
It's hard enough to fight the America-hating, pork-loving traitors on the left; having to deal with the gutless swine on the right makes it even uglier.
O/T: Sheppie-Poo Smith is being wonderfully relevant today. He's gushing about some fucking police chase that happened in Miami this morning, and pimping Bullshit O'Reilly's new book.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 22, 2010 03:32 PM (Ulu3i)
Get over here, Mitch! *slaps rolling pin against her hand*
Posted by: Elaine Chao at September 22, 2010 03:32 PM (osFsP)
63 We can't strip Murzowski of her position because it might upset too many moderates-like Lizzy-whose votes we need in the general election.
Posted by: Pragmatic Republican at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM (EQa35)
64 GOP-2010We don't fucking get it
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM (wuv1c)
65 Just what the hell is this??
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM (pLTLS)
66 GOP "leadership" needs to get a serious blanket party. Don't worry, its coming...
Posted by: maddogg at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM (OlN4e)
67 If she loses November 2, isn't she going to defect to the democrats anyway?
No. She won't do anything. She'll skulk, probably won't even show up, but there isn't any point in her doing anything like that.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2010 03:34 PM (3wPsb)
68 Keep in mind Murkowski's biggest selling point in her write in campaign is that frigging position she holds. That is the entire basis for her campaign.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:34 PM (wuv1c)
69 Seems like MurCowskee has forgot who the real pimp is round here. Yo bitch you better get your ass out there make that fuckin' money.
Posted by: Badonkeydonk at September 22, 2010 03:35 PM (YYkW9)
I'm Okay, You're Okay
Posted by: the serious comic at September 22, 2010 03:36 PM (uFokq)
71 I guess it's a silly move, after all, how is Murky going to win the election if she intentionally votes like a ditz? "Vote for me, I am irrational and vindictive!"
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 22, 2010 03:36 PM (QxSug)
72 So, the GOP in the Senate is not going to strip someone running against the GOP nominee? What exactly do they stand for, again?
I realize there might be something to the "make nice" approach on the theory she won't go full-tilt leftist in the lame duck, but what about beyond that? Are other members going to ever suffer ANY consequences from repeatedly and publicly going against the party?
Or is this how it's going to be when Lindssssey and Orrin and the Maine twins get primaried in their next cycle?
Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 22, 2010 03:36 PM (PReJ3)
73 If she loses November 2, isn't she going to defect to the democrats anyway?No. She won't do anything. She'll skulk, probably won't even show up, but there isn't any point in her doing anything like that.
and if they strip her of her position, she will be motivated to do that?
At this point we are making a bet on a women who has shown she has no shame, honor or integrity. So why give her the benefit of that position.
If she is inclined to screw republicans, which it is pretty clear she is, then she will do it with or without the committee position.
Why let her stay in her pork fort?
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:36 PM (wuv1c)
74 No. She won't do anything. She'll skulk, probably won't even show up,
but there isn't any point in her doing anything like that.
I don't think any of us can say that with certainty.
If there are important votes coming up in the lame duck session and her vote is needed, won't it go to the highest bidder and isn't the highest bidder more likely to be Obama? Hell, he can give her a czar(ina) appointment and she'll be rolling in clover for a couple of years.
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 03:36 PM (osFsP)
75 GOP-2010Open your mouth.
Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2010 03:37 PM (wuv1c)
76 I was curious as to whether she was going to be pressured to return funds acquired while she was a Republican candidate. I guess that this isn't going to happen.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 03:37 PM (R2fpr)
Don't Taze Me, Bro!
Posted by: the serious comic at September 22, 2010 03:37 PM (uFokq)
78 Or is this how it's going to be when Lindssssey and Orrin and the Maine twins get primaried in their next cycle?
Posted by: LibertarianJim
Is this what they're trying to forestall? People keep muttering about one or both of the Maine sisters being targeted, and about when they decide to either switch or run as an Independent. Hopefully they're trying to defuse this. I hope.
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 03:40 PM (R2fpr)
79 Time for an "Anybody But Mitch" campaign?
Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 22, 2010 03:40 PM (PTZ7x)
80 If Mitch suggested she would lose her seniority he was a fool.
The other senators didn't vote against her for one reason, she may win.
If she wins she will caucus with the Rs. If she does that she gets to vote on who is on every committee and who will be it's chair just like every other R. If you wanted to be one of those chairman are you going to piss off a potential vote now just to strip her of the ability to be ignored by the D's till Jan 1? No.
Posted by: Rocks at September 22, 2010 03:40 PM (Q1lie)
81 It's either chickenpolitics or some hot, steamy midnight sex in the coakroom.
Posted by: Barry the Obama at September 22, 2010 03:41 PM (D18z1)
82 What if she keeps her position and STILL votes with the democrats in order to secure future employment?
Posted by: TC at September 22, 2010 03:41 PM (BAtLQ)
83 From the article:
In a surprise move, Senate Republicans decided not to remove Sen. Lisa
Murkowski from her top position on the Senate Energy and Natural
Resources Committee Wednesday, according to several Republican senators
who refused to explain their decision.
She threatened to start voting with Dems, or airing dirty laundry; perhaps both.
The other option is they didn't do it because they didn't want to; not admitting why gives them cover because people will now think it's because Murky is threatening to caucus with the Democrats.
The latter had BETTER not be the explanation.
Nonetheless, do people now understand WHY the less moderate amongst us are freaked out about 'moderates' like Snowe, Collins, McCain, Graham, etc? They have no principle at all, and will do whatever it takes to try and hang onto power. They simply cannot be trusted.
Posted by: blindside at September 22, 2010 03:41 PM (x7g7t)
Russ was wondering about this -- what if you push her too far and she starts voting with the Democrats in the Lame Duck session?
I bet you $50 she does it anyway.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 22, 2010 03:41 PM (ZJ/un)
85 37 a Democrat would not *dream* of doing this to the Democrats.
Posted by: Joe Lieberman at September 22, 2010 03:42 PM (pfStM)
86 sock ass
Posted by: Soona at September 22, 2010 03:42 PM (D18z1)
87 Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM
This, dear Lacey, is why all 535 members of Congress need to be thrown out of office without delay.
We are in a war we're losing, the economy is dying, our freedoms are being eroded daily, and all the self-absorbed pashas in D.C. can think of is entertaining themselves.
I have no respect for these arrogant quasi-humans. The few that aren't quite in a position to deserve trials and imprisonment are fit only to stand in unemployment lines.
Our "royalty" must go. Every last fucking worthless leech of them.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 22, 2010 03:43 PM (Ulu3i)
88 79 Time for an "Anybody But Mitch" campaign?
I'd get on that bandwagon.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at September 22, 2010 03:43 PM (Yq+qN)
89 Sometimes I wonder what the fuck the GOP establishment is thinking. Not over the Delaware debacle, but with moves like this.
Posted by: Chris R at September 22, 2010 03:45 PM (AO4qz)
90 This, dear Lacey, is why all 535 members of Congress need to be thrown out of office without delay.
Yea - cause we would be so much better off without the likes of Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan. Yup - throw everyone out, incl;uding these guys. All 535.
Hey, lets just get rid of elections and randomly pick 535 people out of the phone book. Makes as much sense.
Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 03:46 PM (OWjjx)
91 They're betting that she'll get to stage 5 by the time the election is over.
Also, she's lost. She's toast. 27% and falling fast. I agree that the GOP needs to whip their members into line, but I can't help thinking that there are a lot more personalities involved here and this is not the hill you want to die on.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2010 03:47 PM (3wPsb)
The only way to make sure Mukalopski doesn't screw us is to send her money. Be a realist and contribute to her campaign to insure she doesn't stab us in the back 15 more times before she heads off to scrunt heaven. That's the real realist dealing with the real world in real time really well thought out real strategy. Do it for the children.
Posted by: Searedsucker suit at September 22, 2010 03:49 PM (rMMMP)
Allahpundit also makes the great point. If she loses November 2, isn't she going to defect to the democrats anyway?
The GOP who are playing nice, might get her to "stay GOP" since the voters, not the party, rejected her. Throw a little cue that her voting record was the problem, too liberal, and she had the Lame Duck to fix it, and float a totally empty promise to support her in a bid for Governor of Alaska, something she would totally bite into for her hate of Palin, as incentive to keep that critical ending voting record conservative. Then, when the gavel falls, they say "was it good for you" and pretend thereafter like they've never seen her before in their lives.
It's like you guys never played politics or something. Miller looks to win handily; so in lame duck promise her future support you'll never give, and you've already *proven* you will because you didn't kick her off committee.
Calculated, to get her vote for two months. A useless chair position and an empty promise.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:49 PM (0q2P7)
94 She threatened to start voting with Dems, or airing dirty laundry; perhaps both.
Maybe not just her. I could see Snowe pitching a snit fit over this.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2010 03:50 PM (3wPsb)
95 How about you make her do it rather than preemptively surrendering?
Posted by: DocJ at September 22, 2010 03:50 PM (dt6br)
96 Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 22, 2010 03:33 PM (pLTLS)
Pathetic. No wonder we all think they are a joke.
Posted by: jewells at September 22, 2010 03:50 PM (l/N7H)
97 If she was a chair of a committee - I suspect it would be different.
Being the ranking member of a committee is akin to being Vice-President of the Student Council. Its resume filler.
Seriously, what is she can do as Ranking Member:
Get appropriations - she has a vote and can do that as well with or without title
Sit on a committee - committee assignments were done when the body organized. So, if the GOP attempts to boot her out of a committee (which is questionable under Senate rules) Harry Reid can slither up and stick her back on the committee, while earning some gratitude for Madcowski and making him (Reid) look reasonable.
Introduce bills - again, as a Senator she has that right.
Symobolic - there is some value there. However, I think that the fundraisers the NRSC is planning for Miller next week mean more to him than her retaining the title of Ranking Member of the Energy Committee.
Again, if the Republicans were in the majority, I suspect I would feel differently.
Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 03:53 PM (OWjjx)
98 You fucking republicans. I've been sitting and squeezing my menstrual brew for months. And now me and Loosy are going to unleash it. BUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Posted by: Dede Scozafava (I lost and now I'm horny) at September 22, 2010 03:54 PM (D18z1)
99 The only way to make sure Mukalopski doesn't screw us is to send her money.
And the only way to ensure you don't die in an automobile is to never get in one, but that doesn't stop you from putting on your seatbelt does it Mr. Hyperbolic? Reasonable steps can be taken to mitigate that risk without putting the election results in real jeopardy.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:54 PM (0q2P7)
100 The Murkuntsky soap opera proves that getting the Republican party on the right track isn't going to be easy. The GOP Old Boy Network has the perks to pass around, the war chest, the Beltway machine, and a semi-compliant media (when helping the Good Old Boys helps the libtards). All we the People have are our voices and our votes. And our character, which will be tested as far into the future as any of us can foresee.
Posted by: Reiver at September 22, 2010 03:54 PM (4GKna)
If this is the scenario, then isn't Lisa smart enough to know that?
The only one who can really give her anything of value right now is President Obama. She'd be stupid not to take his phone calls.
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 03:56 PM (osFsP)
102 Mr. Hyperbolic?
AOSHQ - come for the double posting, stay for the over the top hyperbole!
Posted by: Mallamutt at September 22, 2010 03:56 PM (OWjjx)
103 Mr. Hyperbolic?
Don't worry, bro. I've got your back.
BTW, what's your sine?
Posted by: Mr. Parabola at September 22, 2010 03:59 PM (osFsP)
104 I'll quote myself from last night...
With apologies to the late great Ogdred Weary:
Oh what has become of Lisa Murkowski?
Is there any hope her campaign's alive?
Why haven't they found her, it's rather ghastly
To think she was acting like a child of five
The dear little thing was last seeing playing
Alone by herself at the edge of a park;
There was no one with her to keep her from straying
Away in the shadows of oncoming dark
Before she could do so a silent and glittering
Motor drew up where she sat nibbling grass;
From within came a nearly inaudible twittering
A tiny green face peered out of the glass
She was ready to flee when the figure beckoned--
An arm with two elbows held out a tin
Full of uncounted votes; she paused, a second
Reached out as she took one, and lifted her in...
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 22, 2010 04:01 PM (eNxMU)
105 I just sent Sen. McConnell and Sen. Cornyn emails stating that if they did not have the guts to deal with this issue, then when their term is up, I will be donating to their challenger in the primaries. They need to take swift action against the Princess immediately, since her only slogan for running a write-in is that she can bring the $$ back to Alaska based on seniority. Taking away her seniority would effectively put a nail in her write-in coffin.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:05 PM (ZrS0c)
106 This is fucking stupid. McConnell must go.
And expect tomorrow's "Contract 2.0" to be a big bag of fucking epic fail too.
Posted by: someone at September 22, 2010 04:07 PM (DfAwB)
107 I could have told you, before hand, as a commenter on another blog, put it this gives her new life in her campaign, 'having a post from which she can promise favors, this is why Sarah has been systematically eliminating all of of McConnell's leadership group with Bennett included, yet they call her stupid.
Posted by: dr. lizardo at September 22, 2010 04:13 PM (bz+co)
108 Posted by: BeckoningChasm
Posted by: Blue Hen at September 22, 2010 04:13 PM (R2fpr)
Reasonable steps can be taken to mitigate that risk without putting the election results in real jeopardy.
I think we are talking about two different things, here. Rewarding the behavior of someone actively working against the chosen party nominee (even symbolically) weakens the party leadership. It sends the message that if you run against an incumbent in a primary and they go rogue after losing, leadership will not be in your corner, but watching, neutral, from afar. That should encourage good candidates in the future?
How is hedging with Mudhoney not putting election results in jeopardy? She's not the candidate of the party. She dilutes the vote.
Crossing your fingers and hoping she votes with you as a lame duck if you support her now is part of the problem, not a solution. If she has no principles, like Arlen, it is a wasted exercise.
Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 22, 2010 04:14 PM (rMMMP)
110 Mitch McConnell: So, Lisa, what's happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead andvote with us this afternoon? Lisa Murkowski: No.Mitch McConnell:Ah. Yeah. So, I guess we should probably go ahead and have a little talk. Hmm? Lisa Murkowski: Not right now, McConnell, I'm kinda busy. In fact, look, I'm gonna have to ask you to just go ahead and come back another time. I got a meeting withThe Messiah (PBUH)in a couple of minutes. Mitch McConnell: I wasn't aware of a meeting with Him (PBUH). Lisa Murkowski: Yeah,He (PBUH)called me at home.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at September 22, 2010 04:21 PM (xy9wk)
111 Leave her be and let the process work. Remember, Miller is running on an outsider platform. If the leadership goes too heavily on her, she will start claiming to be running as anti-establishment and may fool enough people to her side and cost Miller. Right now she seems to be losing so just let her lose and keep supporting Miller. Worry less about McConnell and more about getting rid of the Dems that we can. Besides, Mitch ain't had a lot to work with lately.
Posted by: Cat Filters at September 22, 2010 04:21 PM (cX9pO)
112 The GOP leaders are probably worried about setting a precedent that would allow them to be stripped of their positions when they act like douchebags.
Posted by: schizoid at September 22, 2010 04:25 PM (CC/K4)
I have news. They aren't acting.
Posted by: Mr. Parabola at September 22, 2010 04:29 PM (osFsP)
114 Leave her be and let the process work. Remember, Miller is running on an outsider platform. If the leadership goes too heavily on her, she will start claiming to be running as anti-establishment and may fool enough people to her side and cost Miller. Right now she seems to be losing so just let her lose and keep supporting Miller. Worry less about McConnell and more about getting rid of the Dems that we can. Besides, Mitch ain't had a lot to work with lately.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you. The GOP needs to send a clear message of who they will support, and the bulk of her campaign is based on how much pork she can bring back to the state based on her seniority status. If that is taken away, then her platform is taken away for running the write-in campaign. By not taking a side, the GOP appears wishy-washy at best and is encouraging future behavior from RINO's who act the same as Sen. Murkowski.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:32 PM (ZrS0c)
115 Damn, out, out, damned sock!
Posted by: bigred at September 22, 2010 04:33 PM (cX9pO)
116 Check out the HotAir update on the Lisa Mucklousy seniority story.
Forget all that strategy, folks, Sen. Hatch says it's simply a matter of "good taste."
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 04:35 PM (osFsP)
117 Has there been a definitive ruling yet on which spelling(s) of her name the election judges will accept, btw?
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 04:36 PM (osFsP)
Don't forget Boehner. We need to get his tanned-ass out of there too!
Posted by: jmflynny at September 22, 2010 04:40 PM (QR5c+)
119 State law says votes shall only be counted if the oval is filled in for that candidate, and if the name is written as it appears on the write-in candidate's declaration of candidacy -- or the last name of the candidate is written in the space provided.On the form declaring her write-in candidacy, Murkowski will have to write in the name she wants voters to use on the ballot. Her campaign is exploring whether or not she could use “Lisa M” or something easier for voters to remember. She has until five days before Nov. 2 general election to file the form.
According to the ktuu.com website, this is what Murkowski can do for her write-in campaign. Also, I cannot find it, but one official has stated they will interpret the state laws liberally, so this could be interesting.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:42 PM (ZrS0c)
Posted by: jmflynny at September 22, 2010 04:42 PM (QR5c+)
Thanks for digging that up.
Gawd, this is going to be messy, but I sure am glad that we're being polite to her. That'll help a lot on election day.
Posted by: Y-not at September 22, 2010 04:44 PM (osFsP)
In that case, isn't there someone else that can sign on to the ballot with just a slight variation? Like, say, 'Lisa Mi'? I, frankly, don't mind confusing those voters.
Posted by: jmflynny at September 22, 2010 04:47 PM (QR5c+)
123 No problem. I don't think Miller has a lot to worry about though based on the last Rasmussen poll. She'll be lucky to get 27% of the vote. I think voters here will see this for what it is worth, which is her being a sore loser.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:47 PM (ZrS0c)
124 But with the committee unlikely to conduct any further business this year and the act seen as largely symbolic, Republicans decided not to add insult to her injury at the hands of Joe Miller, the tea party-backed candidate who beat her in the primary. â€œWe all respect the system, and she still is a Republican senator,â€™â€™ said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah.) after the closed party caucus. â€œItâ€™s just a matter of good taste. We decided to keep the status quo as long as sheâ€™s a senator.â€™â€™
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 22, 2010 04:47 PM (OIw0R)
125 Nice job on the part of the RNC in giving her campaign legs, and making the prospect of a real three way race that much closer to reality. She should have been kicked to the curb.
Posted by: DngrMse at September 22, 2010 04:49 PM (2H8W8)
126 ak pud, your point is well taken. But she doesn't seem to be getting a lot of traction with that right now. Miller could do just as good for the state without the whiney, entitled little Bitch attitude and it seems many Alaskans are seeing that. Of course, I'm not from there, so you undoubtedly know the state better (I assume from your nic you're up there), but judging from polls so far it's not working as she planned. I'd let it ride for now and see how the polls move. Here in Wis. we have a good shot at shitcanning Feingold, plus other pickups so I'm willing to bank on the good sense of enough Alaskans without meddling too much. As long as thesenate GOP is sending Miller money and support lets make good use of it.
Posted by: bigred at September 22, 2010 04:50 PM (cX9pO)
I'm still trying to interpret the law up here for write-in votes, but from what I'm gathering, they will give thebenefit of the doubt to Murkowski on the write-in votes. I still don't think that will have much bearing on the outcome. Miller will win. But it would have been nice if the GOP leadership had followed through and stripped Murkowski of her seniority since that is the main platform of her write in campaign.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:51 PM (ZrS0c)
128 This is yet another reason I'm almost 'meh' about R's taking the Senate. Remember when Bunning tried making a stand against unemployment extension by trying to make the Dems live by the Paygo law the grinning idiot Ø just signed into law? Instead of the R's standing beside him, they ran. Well here we are with a RINO that has lost her fucking election being allowed some sort of courtesy even though she is making OUR PARTY spend even more money (on top of the money she already received from OUR PARTY)trying to keep her seat from being taken because she is a power lusting bint. You know, maybe if they didnt already announce they were gonna do it, I'd be all for her just staying, but dont come out the next goddam day and reverse yourself. Look like idiots and pussies.
Posted by: Schwalbe at September 22, 2010 04:57 PM (UU0OF)
I'm pulling for Johnson to wipe the floor with Feingold in November!!I understand your point, and I personally think that 27% is as high as she will ever go, plus it looks like she is pulling more votes from the Democrats than Republicans. I guess we'll see how this plays out with her being allowed to keep her seniority, though I'm really not in favor of it.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 04:58 PM (ZrS0c)
130 What about the appropriations committee? She needs to be kicked the fuck off that, or at least have her senority stripped, symbolic gesture or not.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2010 04:58 PM (plsiE)
Calculated, to get her vote for two months. A useless chair position and an empty promise.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 22, 2010 03:49 PM (0q2P7)
It makes sense to keep Lousa Musclejawski on the R side for the next couple of weeks. The whole bring pork to Alaska schtick didn't work for the primary, why would it carry her in the actual election?
Posted by: Museisluse at September 22, 2010 05:00 PM (DTfXb)
132 Senator Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.): CNSNews had asked him whether it was
“honorable” for Senator Murkowski to run as a write-in candidate after
losing the Republican primary. He said he will support primary winner
Joe Miller. He added, “She’s doing what’s available to her under Alaska
law. As long as you feel good about it yourself there’s nothing–how can I
say it’s not honorable?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 22, 2010 05:04 PM (OIw0R)
That's a good question. The primaries are closed here in Alaska, so if you are not a registered Republican, Independent, or Undecided, you cannot vote in the Republican Primary here. I think Murkowski is going for the Union and Native vote with this write-in campaign, which would tend to be democratic, and hoping enough of the people that supported her in the primary vote for her in the general. I think that is her strategy.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 05:06 PM (ZrS0c)
134 ak pud. Know how you feel. I'm vindicative enough to want to see her desk put out in the hallway myself, but I think Joe whipping her bitchy little ass is going to be sweet enough. Been laided off since Jan. after busting my ass for 40 years, but if it had to happen, I'm glad it was now. Watching this election cycle has just been a real trip.
Posted by: bigred at September 22, 2010 05:09 PM (cX9pO)
Sorryto hear about your layoff. This is just frustrating because she is as arrogant as her father is. For some reason they think the state of Alaska cannot survive if we do not have a MurCOWski in office. And some dumb bozos up here actually support her, instead of respecting the will of the voters. It's not our fault her supporters didn't bother to show up for the primaries.
Posted by: ak pud at September 22, 2010 05:14 PM (ZrS0c)
136 Oh come on boys and girls, you didn't think the establishment types would simply role over and die, no, they will play dead though.
Christie said it best on the GOP.........If they win big then they better "put up or shut up".
Posted by: Drider at September 22, 2010 05:44 PM (wtDSn)
This is the holy rino empire lead by TheeRomney and his merry band of Beltway chevaliers. This is just the visible part. They are doing everything they can do to defeat Miller. Not because they care about Miller; but, because Miller is Palin's guy. Defeat her guy on her turf and she looks weak (hell, she is weak). Where do you think her Merkness has gotten all that money?
Sarah or no Sarah, I'm starting to long for the days when whatever happened in Alaska meant absolutely nothing to any sane person living anywhere else.
Next clown that tells me "its different in Alaska" had better start running.
“… Already long ago, from when we sold
our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who
once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions —
everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread
and circuses.” (Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis, describing the end of the Roman republic in
Satire X, A.D. 200)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at September 22, 2010 07:00 PM (UL/HQ)
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For the first time in my life, I'm proud to have Al Franken as a senator.
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