Richard Cohen: I Stand With Pastor Jones

Yes, there's some obligatory Palin and Gingrich bashing but credit where credit it due, a WaPo columnist reminds his liberal readers that the First Amendment isn't just a good idea, it's who we are.

Jones is neither a great man nor the leader of a great cause. But what he wanted to do was both permissible under our system and, in a sense, valued. He was attempting to make a statement. It was chaotic and bigoted, but it was a political statement nonetheless, and he had every right to make it. Still, President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Afghanistan War commander Gen. David Petraeus urged him to stand down -- the lives of American soldiers were at stake. Jones stood down.

This was not the first time the threat of violence in the Islamic world has had a chastening effect here -- nor will it be the last. I have yet to see the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published originally in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. The one drawn by Kurt Westergaard and considered particularly objectionable generated riots and, ultimately, an attack on Westergaard himself. The violence, actual or threatened, intimidated the Western media.

Westergaard survived the attack, a horrific home invasion, summoning the police from his panic room. As the novelist Salman Rushdie once did, he lives under police protection. Rushdie, of course, had his life threatened for his 1988 novel "The Satanic Verses," which was characterized as insulting to Islam. As with Westergaard, Rushdie was condemned both by certain Muslims and by certain non-Muslims. More frequently, the fatwa was greeted by a studied indifference -- a pox on both their houses, that of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini who ordered Rushdie's death and the insensitive Rushdie who did not understand that post-colonial peoples are always right.

Into this maelstrom of conflicting values has stepped German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Just this month she honored Westergaard with a media prize. She did so even though Germany has about 4,600 troops in Afghanistan, the third-largest NATO contingent. "The secret to freedom is courage," she said at the awards ceremony, citing the role a free press had played in freeing her native East Germany. It turns out that some values are more valuable than others.

I still think Obama was wrong to go after Jones in a public way. He and his administration should be explaining to peaceful (unless they aren't) Muslims around the world that this is what America is all about. We hash these things out amongst ourselves and the government only gets involved to keep the participants safe. If they don't like it, that's their business but we aren't changing who we are and the US Government is not in the business of enforcing Islamic (or any religion's) blasphemy laws.

You may think I'm giving Cohen too much credit for stating the obvious but it's important to note that not everyone is on board with this basic notion of freedom. Justice Breyer might actually be willing to enforce religious limitation on speech.

Breyer is working really hard to be one of the worst Justices ever (read his book Active Liberty and you'll see how hard he works at it). The only thing that keeps him from being at the top of that list is he's never really written anything of consequence. He's got no Roe or Lawrence or Hamdan to his name.

I have qualms about the idea that the safety of the troops is a consideration in regulating speech. Mostly because I don't think terrorists need excuses or provocations to kill American servicemen and women, it's what they do.

Still, that's a somewhat minor quibble considering it's probably the first time most of Cohen's readers will have heard about the attack on Westergaard, let alone a direct attack on the cowardice of the west's reaction to the Islamic world's response to the cartoons.

Cohen, also gets credit for 'connecting the dots' between the speech he cites and the thing they all have in common...Islam*. Add all of that to a full throated defense of speech and that's a good day's work for your average WaPo columnist not named Will, Krauthammer or Thiessen.


*I corrected that sentence because Cohen did cite the common thread "the Islamic world". My apologies for the mistake.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:05 PM



Comments

1
Tell Cohen to file this under: No shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 14, 2010 12:08 PM (uFokq)

2 Considering the ACLU stood with the KKK in Skokie, this shouldn't be a great leap. But for leftists, it of course is.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 14, 2010 12:08 PM (R2fpr)

3 Even a blind hog...

Posted by: fred at September 14, 2010 12:09 PM (t4bIp)

4 Even a blind squirrel...

Posted by: Tom In Korea at September 14, 2010 12:10 PM (+gX1+)

5 Even a broken clock...

Posted by: Tom In Korea at September 14, 2010 12:10 PM (+gX1+)

6 Do you hear heads exploding in NYC?

Posted by: MJ at September 14, 2010 12:11 PM (BKOsZ)

7 I don't believe he believes this. He's a lefty. Lefties don't believe in free speech. They believe in political speech that benefits them.

Posted by: Truman North at September 14, 2010 12:12 PM (G5JPI)

8 Guess not everyone wants to be invited to the cocktail circuit.

Posted by: Tom In Korea at September 14, 2010 12:13 PM (+gX1+)

9 Hmmm, well then Justice Breyer, could the Victory Mosque be considered a long, loud cry of "fire" in a crowded business district?

Posted by: Luca Brasi at September 14, 2010 12:13 PM (YmPwQ)

10
"The secret to freedom is courage,"

Profound. She's a regular Maggie Thatcher.

For Obama, the path to peace is apparently appeasement.

You can quote me on that.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 14, 2010 12:14 PM (uFokq)

11 Why should any adult not in a coma get special credit for knowing our Constitution?

Posted by: Moi at September 14, 2010 12:16 PM (Ez4Ql)

12 Free Speech will be another battle that will have to be fought with the Betas of the Left, who cower from honest speech and try to label it "scary".

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 14, 2010 12:17 PM (RKpGM)

13 WTF did Palin or asshole Gingrich have to do with buring the Qurans? That is just another snarky attack based on nothing.

As for idiot Breyer, I already weighed in on that. Drew, aren't you a lawyer? The courts have weighed in on this hate speech shit several times. It is now muddier than the Mississippi at flood stage.

The last ruling involved a cross burning. If the "speech" involves an "act" of intimidation it is not protected speech. The current locus seems to be whether or not the speech damages liberal thought or conservative thought. Or, as in the case of the cross burning, attacks a "protected class" favored by the liberals.

Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2010 12:17 PM (/jbAw)

14 The only thing that keeps him from being at the top of that list is he's
never really written anything of consequence. He's got no Roe or
Lawrence or Hamdan to his name.

That's because his "opinions" are incoherent legal drivel paying inconsistent selective attention to precedent, with liberal helpings of MSU sauce, that no rational justice, even an arch liberal like Ginsburg, could use to form a rational system of law.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 14, 2010 12:17 PM (0q2P7)

15 Stephen Breyer disagrees. Burning a Koran is like shouting fire in a crowded theater. Eseentially, threats of Muslim violence preempt the First Amendment.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at September 14, 2010 12:18 PM (YPivX)

16 Has Nat Hentoff weighed in on this yet?
I'm alotmore interested in what he has to say about the First Amendment that this WaPo weasel.

Posted by: logprof at September 14, 2010 12:19 PM (CE2wR)

17

The top brass of the entire admin came down on Jones, including the FBI.

Now remember the fit the Left had when Ashcroft covered the marble boobie statue.


Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 14, 2010 12:19 PM (uFokq)

18 I still think Obama was wrong to go after Jones in a public way.

Quite an understatement - if Bush and the military establishment publicly and privately tried to get an anti-war protest stopped, wouldn't that have gotten the the same level and type of coverage as the Plame affair?

The president certainly has the right to condemn someone engaging in his free speech rights, but having the military and FBI lean on him is beyond the pale.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2010 12:19 PM (7BU4a)

19
Wow. Came across this beaut of an article during a google news search. It's translated from a spanish newspaper. Read what "the world" is saying about the current electoral goings on in the U.S.

Actually, it's just two or three hairs away from an MFM story.

Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at September 14, 2010 12:21 PM (T4igz)

20 Saw something somewhere (NYT?) that the religion of peace wants the pastor to be killed.

The religion of unabated rage.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 14, 2010 12:21 PM (UOM48)

21 Why was it "bigoted"?

Posted by: Jean at September 14, 2010 12:22 PM (GK9T6)

22 But Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer told me on “GMA”
that he’s not prepared to conclude that — in the internet age — the
First Amendment condones Koran burning.

This should be a Republican talking point through the election. Heck, they should be calling for Breyer's impeachment.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2010 12:22 PM (7BU4a)

23 All cats are gray at night. Wait what?

Posted by: toby928 at September 14, 2010 12:22 PM (S5YRY)

24 Do you hear heads exploding in NYC?

That wasn't a head.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 14, 2010 12:22 PM (AZGON)

25 Oh, and you have to love liberal logic;

Burning the Koran? Unconstitutional because it would make a religious group mad.

Defunding Piss Christ? Unconstitutional because the government cannot stop expenditures just because they might make a religious group mad.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2010 12:24 PM (7BU4a)

26 Breyer ought to do something more useful with his time. Like opening a dick wash in Africa.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 14, 2010 12:24 PM (AZGON)

27 I think Obama should have washed his junk before he went after anyone.

Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2010 12:24 PM (HcvB0)

28 Don't worry, the people that pay him are eager to censor themselves and bend over for threats of violence.

And about the "it will put our troops in danger" losers....that is what we are there for assholes, to kick ass and preserve our freedoms.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 14, 2010 12:25 PM (RgDfL)

29 The secret to progress is empathy.

Posted by: The Man For Our Times, Barack Obama at September 14, 2010 12:26 PM (FcR7P)

30 It says something about the Mohammedan Mouthpiece's regime that the response to "threats to our military" has changed from "turn the military loose to deal with the threats" to "let's all submit to the Muzzies."

Cohen's daily dose of kool-ade hadn't kicked in yet when he wrote this. He'll be back in regular full-lib mode soon.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 14, 2010 12:26 PM (Ulu3i)

31 The secret to progress is empathy.Posted by: The Man For Our Times, Barack Obama


Sucks to be you....

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 14, 2010 12:27 PM (0q2P7)

32 So, if I'm hearing Breyer correctly, all I have to do is tell you to shut up, threaten you and those that live on your street with violence, and that justifies taking away your 1st. Amendment rights........but not mine.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at September 14, 2010 12:27 PM (uKraB)

33 Came across this beaut of an article during a google news search.

I was oddly unsurprised by the byline:

Frida Modak is a journalist and was press secretary to former Chilean President Salvador Allende.

Posted by: toby928 at September 14, 2010 12:28 PM (S5YRY)

34 20, did you notice she was the press secretary for Salvador Allende? Beautiful stuff.

Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2010 12:29 PM (FcR7P)

35 We all need to burn a koran. It's about freedom now, not religious tolerance.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at September 14, 2010 12:29 PM (sOx93)

36
Dick Cohen is right but he doesn't even know why he's right.

Posted by: bizzarro eggmcmuffin at September 14, 2010 12:30 PM (uFokq)

37 Breyer is working really hard to be one of the worst Justices ever
Don't rush me gringo. I'll get to it, maٌana.

Posted by: Sonja Sotomayor at September 14, 2010 12:30 PM (F/4zf)

38 Jones is neither a great man nor the leader of a great cause. But what
he wanted to do was both permissible under our system and, in a sense,
valued.

He made a pretty strong point too, whether or not he meant too.

There is a severe double standard in the US Government-Media complex.

How would the media react to the President trying to stop someone from burning a bible? How would the "Christian community" react?

Now why is it so different with Islam?

The left spends a lot of their time trying to draw a comparison between conservative Christians and Islamists but as we can see with this event, there is no comparison.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2010 12:31 PM (7BU4a)

39 I promise you Imam Rauf could gladly put on a retrospective of my work in the GZM... and my friends on the Left would still be unable to connect the dots.

Anyway, I guess I should have washed my dick a little better.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Mapplethorpe at September 14, 2010 12:31 PM (AZGON)

40 "Prior restraint." It's my dream. It's my nightmare.

Posted by: Justice "Bobby" Breyer at September 14, 2010 12:32 PM (AZGON)

41 Frida Modak is a journalist and was press secretary to former Chilean President Salvador Allende.

Posted by: toby928 at September 14, 2010 12:28 PM (S5YRY)
So we've got an international socialist complaining about national socialism? Isn't that like those Star Trek characters with half white half black faces that hated each other because one was white on the right and the other on the left?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2010 12:32 PM (7BU4a)

42

And about the "it will put our troops in danger" losers....that is what
we are there for assholes, to kick ass and preserve our freedoms.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 14, 2010 12:25 PM (RgDfL)
They are big boys (and girls) and they can take care of themselves- just ask any of Saddam Hussein's "Elite Republican Guards", that is if you can find any of them.Sun-Tzu said that "...if your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him..." I'm sure the military intel types will be able to leverage all the frothing rage that American free speech can generate into any number of military advantages.

Posted by: Nighhawk at September 14, 2010 12:33 PM (OtQXp)

43 well one thing this burning and mosque controversy has done is take our minds off the fact the the "war" in Afganistan is going down the tubes?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 14, 2010 12:33 PM (0GFWk)

44 I still think Obama was wrong to go after Jones in a public way.
Where he was wrong, and you made this point pretty much, is that Obama came down with some enthusiasm on the side of the NY mosque with an exclamation point on freedom. By his arbitrary application of 'freedom for thee but not for thee' he opens the door once again, for people to question his loyalties - his affilitations. To him, the koran burnings were distastful while for a whole bunch of Americans, the NY mosque is. His inability to keep from weighing in on these divisive controversies, or at least his inability to come in on the correct side, is the gun he keeps shooting himself in the foot with.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 14, 2010 12:34 PM (RkRxq)

45 Let me be clear, the only reason I'm not standing with Pastor Jones is this damned umbrella...

Posted by: Your Milquetoast Monarch at September 14, 2010 12:34 PM (FcR7P)

46 Question: Does not Freedom of Religion, also give you the RIGHT to disagree with, and preach against, other religions if that is YOUR Religious belief? I know modern Christianity has become Non Confrontational... but that is just MODERN Christianity...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 14, 2010 12:34 PM (H+oXM)

47 Same argument could have been made in WW2...don't say anything anti-Hitler, it will put our troops in danger. It is a dumb argument made by pussies with a healthy dose of sand in their vagina slowly turning into a pearl.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 14, 2010 12:36 PM (RgDfL)

48 Blue Hen at 2 - The ACLU did defend the rights of the KKK at Skokie but considering that the KKK is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party that's not too surprising.

Posted by: Have Blue at September 14, 2010 12:38 PM (mV+es)

49 It's at least likely that some nutcases in Astan or Iraq or someplace else who would have stayed home will, with this as the final straw, decide to go out and kill Americans. Or blow up a nursery school if it's closer.
The point, however, is that this is a larger war. The nutcases will be out with their suicide vests or grenades or IEDs or AKs, or whatever eventually, with or without Jones' antics or anything like it. If we keep it from blowing up in, say, Astan this week, there will be more nutcases left over to make trouble next week.
The guys who would have died stopping Hitler's militarization of the Rhineland in 1936 would have died later on in 1940. They had four years of life, but the cost was WW II.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at September 14, 2010 12:38 PM (yeF2+)

50 So does this mean I can go to jail if I burn an Aleister Crowley book in front of Wiccans?

Posted by: George Orwell at September 14, 2010 12:39 PM (AZGON)

51 considering that the KKK is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party that's not too surprising.

Be sure to take advantage of our Charcoal Cross loyalty program. With every fifth burnt cross you get a free ticket to your state's Democratic Party Convention, with host bar. It costs nothing to join, and we appreciate your business!

Posted by: The DNC at September 14, 2010 12:41 PM (AZGON)

52 Worry not... I'll be free soon to feast on your souls anyway...
But don't burn my books dammit... or its a hate crime!

Posted by: Cthulu at September 14, 2010 12:41 PM (H+oXM)

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Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 14, 2010 12:42 PM (L8kaT)

54 Hmmm... sooooo... does this mean that anyone speaking out against us restarting the sacrifices, is a bad evil person?

Let the Reconquista continue!

Posted by: Jose, Head Priest, Aztec Temple of Los Angelas at September 14, 2010 12:43 PM (H+oXM)

55 Go ahead. Try to burn my book. Try it. Many have tried, none have succeeded.

Now go Yog my Sothoth.

Posted by: The Mad Arab Abdul Al-Hazred at September 14, 2010 12:45 PM (AZGON)

56 Gen. Petraeus was wrong to weigh in on an issue concerning constitutional rights, no matter how unwise or stupid or dangerous the exercise of that free speech was. His concerns should not be the safety of troops at the expense of our freedoms. That protection is supposed to be what the military is for.

Posted by: Yo Mama at September 14, 2010 12:48 PM (gbCNS)

57 Sofollowing Breyer's reasoning, since there have been documented cases of violent reaction to abortion clinics, we should seriously consider restricting abortion as a possible incitement to violence.
Maybe I'll drop in at Feministing or Pandagon and make that argument. I'm sure I'd get a thoughtful, well reasoned response.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at September 14, 2010 12:48 PM (ADeN1)

58 As to Breyer. What he is saying is that "since we've limited FREE SPEECH before, we can limit it again, you see, we are the law."
Making someone MAD does not make them dangerous. The CHOOOOOOOSE to be dangerous.
Right Stevie Breyer???? You are PRO-CHOICE?? RIGHT??

Posted by: gus at September 14, 2010 12:49 PM (Vqruj)

59 Note, this article came out after the Koran burning was canceled and after the scheduled date had passed. I wonder if Cohen would have written if Jones had gone forward?

Posted by: Penfold at September 14, 2010 12:51 PM (1PeEC)

60 Aren't Supreme Court Judges supposed to like stay out of politics and just rule on cases that come up in front of them and keep their mouths shut about political stuff? I mean Breyer is a douche and all, but what happens if a case like this comes up and he is still on the bench? By the rules he should recuse himself as he has already rendered his personal opinion in public, but I doubt he would.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at September 14, 2010 12:53 PM (Mv/2X)

61 @ 38
*phew*

coffee on keyboard.


Thanks a lot.

Posted by: MikeB at September 14, 2010 01:07 PM (RuF8n)

62 Why do we send soldiers abroad (at least ostensibly) to establish and to defend freedom where it has been hitherto unknown only to have them phone home and suggest that they fear the consequences of the exercise of such freedom at home? How does this instill confidence in those whom we claim to be rescuing from despotism?

Posted by: Matt at September 14, 2010 01:18 PM (yeT3s)

63 "The secret to freedom is courage," she said at the awards ceremony,
citing the role a free press had played in freeing her native East
Germany. It turns out that some values are more valuable than others.

She cut government spending, also, and now Germany's GDP is increasing by 9%. A certain "humble" US president could learn a thing or two.

Posted by: Comrade Sebelius at September 14, 2010 01:20 PM (Fyjeu)

64 Oops, that's PJ.

Posted by: PJ at September 14, 2010 01:20 PM (Fyjeu)

65 The last ruling involved a cross burning. If the "speech" involves an "act" of intimidation it is not protected speech. The current locus seems to be whether or not the speech damages liberal thought or conservative thought. Or, as in the case of the cross burning, attacks a "protected class" favored by the liberals.
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2010 12:17 PM (/jbAw)
Could you clairify something for me? What does it mean "cross burning" is not protected? Does this mean that someone can't burn a cross on their own private property? Or that it can't be burned on public property as a protest? Or that it can't be burned on someone elses private property against their will?
Thanks.

Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:23 PM (Zsqn4)

66 Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:23 PM (Zsqn4)

IIRC, the law specifically punished cross burning with intent to intimidate someone based on race.

I guess you can do it on your own property but not at a protest and not on someone's lawn.Part of the law made cross burning prima facie evidence of racial intimidation but that was overturned.

In short, it was a mess. Typical of an O'Connor decision.

Scalia was in the minority and as usual had it right.

The case was Virginia v. Black.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 14, 2010 01:34 PM (ycZcD)

67
"Blue Hen at 2 - The ACLU did defend the rights of the KKK at Skokie but
considering that the KKK is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat
Party that's not too surprising."

It wasn't the KKK - they defended the right of the American Nazi Party to march in Skokie. Which, for those who don't know it, is a predominantly Jewish suburb of Chicago that, at the time, was home to many Holocaust survivors.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 14, 2010 01:36 PM (VrNoa)

68 Could
you clairify something for me? What does it mean "cross burning" is
not protected? Does this mean that someone can't burn a cross on their
own private property? Or that it can't be burned on public property as a
protest? Or that it can't be burned on someone elses private property
against their will?
Thanks.

Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:23 PM (Zsqn4)
OK I was about to respond but Drew beat me to it.

Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2010 01:40 PM (/jbAw)

69 DrewM: the First Amendment isn't just a good idea,it's who we are.
If they don't like it, that's their business but we aren't changing who we are and the US Government is not in the business of enforcing Islamic (or any religion's) blasphemy laws.
DrewM, I gotta tell you, your moral clarity on this issue is a breath of fresh air and much appreciated.
I remember when this first came up and I was going back and forth with Gabe and Purple Avenger.
From what I remember, Gabe's position was that this endangered our troops and our standing with moderate muslims who might otherwise attack us, and burning these Korans was evil. And was canceling the burning in light of the above too high a price to pay? I said yes, on the free speech principle, and Gabe never responded to me again.
Purple Avenger's position was that whatever violence came to this Pastor was entirely his fault and he (PA) had no problem with that.
I just couldn't believe this... And I was wondering, "am I really so out of touch with this issue?"
Ace has often times mocked people for standing on principle for what he sees as silly reasons. I.E., if I can't have my PERFECT candidate, I don't want the second best, and if that means the worst candidate gets elected, so be it.
Or making some small campaign issue way more important than was necessary.
And he'd say, "is this really the hill you want to fight and die on?"
And most of the time, I'd agree with him.
But here? The fear of riots and attacks overseas means that we must curtail our 1st amendment rights here?
Yeah, that is a principle/hill worth fighting over.
(For the record, I don't think ace has weighed in on this Koran issue, and his above reference were to other issues, not this one.)
As I said in earlier posts, I don't think burning Korans, Bibles, piss Christ, Madonna elephant dung statues etc is cool.
It's not.
But, once others say that if you do, they'll kill you for it, then it seems that you have to say "no, I won't let you use threats of violence to restrict this." And thus the otherwise uncool behavior becomes...principled. Purposeful.
Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
I don't want a religeous war. But I don't want to live in an America where we surrender our 1st amendent to avoid one.

Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:44 PM (Zsqn4)

70 Thanks for the response on the cross burning issue guys.

Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:46 PM (Zsqn4)

71 Posted by: polynikes at September 14, 2010 01:47 PM (m2CN7)

Shit, you're right. It's been awhile since I read it. He did sign onto parts of the plurality but also dissented in parts.

It was Thomas who was the lone dissent. But he also signed on with Scalia's partial concurrence.

It really was a mess of decisions (Heck of a job Sandy!).

Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 14, 2010 02:27 PM (ycZcD)

72 Posted by: Ed at September 14, 2010 01:44 PM (Zsqn4)

Thanks.

As you can tell, it's not like there's a single hive mind at work here.

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