1 I wish no harm to Assange, but accidents do happen!

2

Imagine my surprise

 

3 Hitler, Stalin, et al have a seat reserved for Assbang.

4

I will always believe that either Obama orchestrated this to undercut Petraeus, or else Hillary orchestrated this to undercut Obama and Petraeus at the same time.

WAY too much info gotten, WAY too easy - Assange deserves the contempt, but he's just a tool for people a lot bigger and a lot more dangerous than he is.

5 He obviously hates the prophet (pbuhba - or what the hell ever)

6

Assange drew a comical picture of Muhammed playing beer pong with Allah.

Assange is also best friends with Salman Rushdie.

7 Hitler, Stalin, et al have a seat reserved for Assbang.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 29, 2010 11:38 AM (UOM4

And a pineaple?

8 Assbang is reported to love all things pork.

Assbang loves to go clubbing and drink large quantities of alcohol.

9 Barbed Cock of Satan. AssAnger's heiney hole. Some assembly required.

10 Poisoned tipped umbrella, that's all i have to say

11 the White House knew informants' names could be exposed but did nothing to help WikiLeaks vet the data.

So the White House was actually supposed to help release this classified material?  Sorry, I won't even fault the Obama Administration for refusing to give this guy a tacit approval for what he was doing, even with various bits redacted.

12 Mr Assange insisted any risk to informants' lives was outweighed by the overall importance of publishing the information self- promotion and personal glorification.

FTFY, scumbag weasel POS.

13 Firing squad or the hangman. Either one is what this bastard deserves.

Long prison sentences for the Sulzbergers as well.

14 How come the sharktopus is never around when these people go for a walk?  Just sayin'.

15
Somebody needs to Putin him some F'ing knowledge.

16 He needs to be stripped naked and wrapped in a goat skin and dropped off on the Afghan/Paki border.  Oh, and with "Allah Sucks" painted on his ass in Pashtun.

17 someone needs to poison his boy friends dick.

18 Isn't Ackerman also a lapsed muslim? 

19 This is what happens when wannabe secret agents play at being an intelligence organization.  There are reasons why intel information is kept secret and protecting the identities of human sources is PARAMOUNT among those reasons.

Apparently Assange doesn't understand, or worse, is such a narcissist that he doesn't care about that fact.

Here's a little piece of advice Julie- if you want to play in the intel game you have to learn to check your ego at the door.

It's only a matter of time before people start dying because this tool thinks he didn't get enough attention as a child.

20 Your doing marvelous work Wormwood...er uh Julian, yeah Julian...

21 Spencer Ackerman is Roar-Shat in Watchmen Two-Willfully Blind

22
  Last nite at a party, I had a dandy argument with a liberal on just this subject. Feckless little maggot went on a rant about our "unconsciously mercenary killers exercising no restraint toward civilians"--if I recall some of it. It took a concerted effort NOT to spread him on the floor like peanut butter, and he won, in that I was too fucking mad to be coherent.

  I'm sure y'all realize this is an effort from the left to portray the military in the worst possible light (war crimes, anyone)? Sad thing is with this DOJ, the theme will get traction.

 Fuckers just piss me purple.

23 i'm confused.....the white house wouldn't help wikileaks vet the wikileaks leak?

24

It is definately a good thing we aren't as violent as they portray us of being.  Can you imagine the comments if we were? 

"The cosmos would rejoice if any of these asshats strayed into the path of a undetected meteorite or other type of 1/2 inch sniper projectile."

It could get vile I tell you.

But we're not, thank goodness.

25 As I said yesterday, both he and the leaker can be prosecuted under U.S. law.  It looks like the leaker will be prosecuted for a change.

We should get this guy and bring him back to the U.S. for trial. 

26 It's time to revisit the definitions and penalties for treason.

My feeling is that Osama Obama was in this up to his eyeballs. Despite assertions to the contrary, it seems very unlikely that the White House would have "missed" the Assange documents (assuming the little shit was telling the truth) unless a) it approved of the release or b) gave them to Wikileaks in the first place.

Once again: no other president would have survived this possibility. Or much of what the Traitor-in-Chief has done to this country.

So, yes, go after Assange with (metaphorical, maybe) guns blazing. But those who supported and enabled him should should be subject to the law and its penalties as well.

27 We should get this guy and bring him back to the U.S. for trial.
Posted by: Vic at July 29, 2010 11:51 AM (/jbAw)

Unless some unfortunate accident would befall him on the way here?

28

Uh... Repubs?????? HELLLOOOOOOOOO!!!! ANYONE HOME????

"IF" the Whitehouse was given the opportunity to vet this information, then they also had to have a way to contact this guy (and note, the media seems to be able to find him).  They COULD have stopped him, but apparently did not even try to disuade him from publishing.

Now, if you know of the release of classified material, and do nothing, you are an accessory... and even if not prosecuted, will have your clearance IMMEDIATLY stripped from you.

Where is the investigation into what the Whitehouse knew, and when did they know it? (its like the Lockerbie bomber Administration Letters, where they lied to us, and the MSM gave em a virtual pass on it).

Repubs.... /knocks on their foreheads... anyone THERE!

29 18 Isn't Ackerman also a lapsed muslim?

I think he is a Jew who is also an apostate Muslim.  Now that's an insult to Allah (p.b.u.h.)...a Jew who accepts Islam and then renounces it.  Kinda seems fatwa worthy doesn't it?

30 I am sure I have seen a photo of Ackerman taking a dump on the Koran.

31 Assbang's jazzhands put Adam "The American" Gadahn's to shame.

32 Arrrr!  I'll give Ackerman the what-for!

33 "Niall Ferguson: Empires Fall Abruptly, And The American Empire Is On The Brink"

34 Eggs, Omelets And All Of That



Good thing we banned the use of the word "yolk" yesterday.

And I like Iowahawk's angle. Eggs, Omelets And All Of That.

35 "Everything You Need To Know About The Glenn Beck Goldline Scheme"

36 You know what would be really funny?

If this were a reverse OP by the CIA to get rid of some known Afghan spies.

But I'm not holding my breath, the CIA has not been that clever in over 20 years.

37 how is Ackerman even still gainfully employed?  geez what an asshat

38

I think he is a Jew who is also an apostate Muslim.  Now that's an insult to Allah (p.b.u.h.)...a Jew who accepts Islam and then renounces it.  Kinda seems fatwa worthy doesn't it?

As I understand it, Assange: born Muslim, converted to Judaism, then to Hinduism, and now says he's an atheist. He's also admitted to wiping his ass with a Koran and selling the meat of a goat he'd sodomized in his own village.

39 Unless some unfortunate accident would befall him on the way here?

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 29, 2010 11:52 AM (0GFWk)

Yeah, like he suddenly bursts into a mosque in Malmo stark naked with a star of David tatooed on his chest, "Allah blows dead goats" tatooed on his butt and carrying a koran wrapped in bacon.

He must have gotten lost and wanted to ask for directions. Tragic I tells ya, tragic....

40

Looks like Pfc. Manning was the traitor

http://tinyurl.com/2f7v5j3

 

41 So are we against collateral damage or not? If we give a shit about Afghans then let's actually go to war, all out war, not "be really careful" war.

42

Well taking out Mr. Assange would clearly save US soldiers lives and those of the Afghans helping us.... so, by his logic...

43 There are Muslims who convert to Judism? How many? Just this one?

44 The last time I saw Bin Laden, he said I could interview him, but I'd have to blow him first.

So I did.  

I can't believe I swallowed the whole thing.

But then he said he felt unclean and had his guys throw me out of the tunnel. 

I was depressed for weeks.

45 I'm in favor of waterboarding pfc manning. Where do people like this even come from?

46 I think deeply about the dangers that I've created for those primitive Afghans who have risked their own safety to assist our military personnel.  But really, can life possibly be worth living if one doesn't have access to high quality hairstyling products? 

47 Rangle strikes deal

48

It's a shame Assange didn't release Valerie Plame's name.  That's the only leak in the past sixty years that lefties didn't like.  She was a SOUPER SEKRIT SOUPER AGENT!1!!!, don't ya know.

 

49

Other despicable bastard news:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows off latest Iranian guided weapons development.

50 Hope Manning is fond of the weather in Kansas.

51 He claimed many informers in Afghanistan were "acting in a criminal way" by sharing false information

Why yes, because you just know that the only people who share the name muhammed is rare in that part of the world and there would be no way that any of them will be mis-identified.

52 Posted by: Romeo13 at July 29, 2010 11:53 AM (H+oXM)

I read or heard on the MSM that the WH asked him to take out the names and particulars of US personnel.  But that could be just rumor, don't have time to find any links.

 Found this on Blackfive:  "Questions for Julian Assange on hearing him claim to have offered Obama administration an opportunity to redact"
seems a lot of folks must have heard the MSM say this.

53 Don't listen to Glenn Beck!  Invest in AuBama's Golden Unicorn Manure Bullion instead!

54 ...how many times did we hear proggs say we only went to war because conservatives get off killing poor brown people?

Radish's Rule of Projection.

55 There are Muslims who convert to Judism? How many?

Assange pays them to convert with his jew gold.

56 Just found:

Dear Wormwood,
It seems that you have been doing well in branching out and acquiring more Patients. This Assange fellow is a perfect patient.  He, like so any others of his ilk, are prime for our work.  Nothing hides our agenda better then a self-righteous man. In fact, it is a key component at Tempters' Training College for young demons that the newly hatched seek the self-righteous as a first patient.  But remember, nephew, the Enemy is ever present so make sure that your new patient is never tempted by the thought that any of his actions are evil.  No, instead insure that he believes that the evil is anyone who tries to defer him from his course by the presentation of facts, of the need for scruples in his work and most importantly never let him think that he is responsible for anything that happens to another man.  No, nephew, that must always be someone else's fault.

Keep these three things in mind with this Patient and he will be in our Father's service for eternity.

Your Ravenously Affectionate Uncle,
Screwtape

57 So this guy is doing for real, and on a massive scale, what the MSM claimed was behind the Plamegame.

If our CIA does not remove this agent of the Taliban, why do we even have one?

58 Posted by: toby928 at July 29, 2010 12:09 PM (8/oOq)

They are converting to Christianity in huge numbers.

59 Dagny - the weather six feet underground is the same pretty much everywhere, at least as perceived by the resident.

Alas, as a nation we do not  have the balls to give Spc. Manning the home he deserves.

60 35 "Everything You Need To Know About The Glenn Beck Goldline Scheme"

Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 11:58 AM (p302b)

Yes, it's nefarious as all hell. Now go get your fuckin shinebox.

61 The president appeared on ABC’s morning talk show “The View” Thursday, where he talked about the forced resignation of Agriculture Department official Shirley Sherrod, his experience with race and his roots.

When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

How did this freaken idiot ever get elected?

62 Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 12:10 PM (p302b)

Shh.

63 MSNBC better be careful, if Sherrod succeeds in getting it made libelous to publish clips that are unflattering to a person they have opened a can of worms.

64

Those on the left who cheered this release really need to be held to account for what they supported.

The millions murdered by the North Vietnamese after the "end" of that war called to say "the waiting for an apology line is behind us"

65 This guy need to be thrown in a dark hole and left there.  PFC Manning... the punishment of execution for the crime of treason is still applicable under the UCMJ, right?

66 Those on the left who cheered this release really need to be held to account for what they supported. Andrew Sullivan, the various members of the Glenn Greenwald Collective, members of the MFM and the like need to be held accountable for what they are supporting.


I'll tell you that my power glutes can support quite a lot--a lot of pounding, that is . . . .

Hey, look over there, one of Sarah Palin's "children."

67 I read or heard on the MSM that the WH asked him to take out the names and particulars of US personnel.  But that could be just rumor, don't have time to find any links.

Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 12:08 PM (p302b)

We aren't talking about US personnel, genius.  We're talking about non-US sources.  And if the White House did make that laughable request (as if the info would be fine to release, otherwise) it just shows that they cannot be trusted with guarding classified information, themselves, whether it's due to their incompetence or their treasonous motivations - as if anyone with a brain didn't know this.

68 Wasn't there some ordinary citizen running around Pakistan hunting Bin-Laden. Why not get that guy on Assange?

69 Get ready for a new product from AuBama: Mongrel Gold!  Even more valuable because the gold is mixed in with various crap we found in the dumpster!

70 Posted by: Sam at July 29, 2010 12:12 PM (Cxsey)

Some don't agree with you, found this this morning.

71 Alas, as a nation we do not have the balls to give Spc. Manning the home he deserves.

He deserves a tandem ride in a brazen bull with Assbang.

72 But everyone can agree that AuBama's the best!

73 Bradley Manning faces up to 52 years in prison if convicted of the charges against him.

Really?  He compromises national security and provides a recruitment tool for AQ and the most he can get is 52 years..REALLY?

74

"the White House knew informants' names could be exposed but did nothing to help WikiLeaks vet the data."

So the obammy WH knew in advance about what data was going to be released, and not only didn't "help wikileaks" vet the data, they did nothing to stop the release of the data.

Covert, not overt, treason.

75 "72 But everyone can agree that AuBama's the best!

Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 12:16 PM (VmtE9)"

"67 I read or heard on the MSM that the WH asked him to take out the names and particulars of US personnel.  But that could be just rumor, don't have time to find any links.

Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 12:08 PM (p302b)

We aren't talking about US personnel, genius.  We're talking about non-US sources.  And if the White House did make that laughable request (as if the info would be fine to release, otherwise) it just shows that they cannot be trusted with guarding classified information, themselves, whether it's due to their incompetence or their treasonous motivations - as if anyone with a brain didn't know this.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 29, 2010 12:14 PM (Qp4DT)"

Hey NOW....get your own sock....

76
and said the White House knew informants' names could be exposed but did nothing to help WikiLeaks vet the data.

Now that's chutzpah.

77 Fuck them.  Fuck them all.  It's time to exterminate all "journalists."

The next Tea Party rally should be in front of the Washington Post building, and all 100,000 attendees should bring along a 5-gallon jerrycan of gas and a road flare.  Just burn the fucking place down with everyone in it.  Next week the New York Times.  Then CNN.  Then NBC.  Maybe these fucking bastards will start to get the message.

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79

I just wonder, if Assange was gunned down on the street, his throat slit and a note pinned to his chest with a knife, threatening the same to anyone who acts against the interests of the USA....

Would the silence from the MFM be as deafening as it has been regarding the murder of Theo VanGogh?

80 33 "Niall Ferguson: Empires Fall Abruptly, And The American Empire Is On The Brink"

Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 11:57 AM (p302b) 

Enjoy your nap, Rumplestiltferguson?

81 Forget about those foreign shoes!  Buy from AuBama!

82 How did this freaken idiot ever get elected?

Posted by: nevergiveup at July 29, 2010 12:11 PM (0GFWk)

A majority desire to commit national suicide.

83 Where does Assange live?  His address and phone number should be public information.  Photos of his house.  If possible, anonymous tips about his daily schedule.  If he has children, their pictures and where they go to school.  It's time to fucking get serious.

Liberals always talk about how much we can learn from other cultures.   It's time we learn from Islam.

84 So the White House was actually supposed to help release this classified material?  Sorry, I won't even fault the Obama Administration for refusing to give this guy a tacit approval for what he was doing, even with various bits redacted.

Actually yes, you may disagree with the Pentagon Papers decision, but that is law. If a journalist wants to release classified information that is newsworthy, they can, period. Classified material is marked as a general guide to the threat to national security if it were to become public. But if documents are leaked, and newsworthy, specific threats to US interests help a "responsible" journalist make the decision on what information should be omitted, and perhaps the document as a whole should. I know many who have an unqualified faith in the classification system would argue that the word CONFIDENTIAL should be enough. But I do sympathize with the other side, the arbitrary stamping of a word by government on a document should not make it illegal to publish. If Assange actually sought help from the WH in order to protect US interests beyond his intended story, and the WH declined to assist him, then they don't have an argument for criminal liability on his part.

I may not like the guys politics. I certainly think as a human being he had a responsibility to, in the absence of help from the WH, make the best judgment possible with the partial picture he had to protect lives and overarching US interests. As a human being he is a total and utter failure. But, I can assign no criminal liability for what he did, if he asked for help and was ignored.

85 I'm sure y'all realize this is an effort from the left to portray the military in the worst possible light (war crimes, anyone)? Sad thing is with this DOJ, the theme will get traction.

 Fuckers just piss me purple.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 29, 2010 11:49 AM (ud5dN)

My suggestion - contrast them with UN peacekeepers. Something like;

War crimes? Mercenaries? The most amazing thing about the American military is its ability to fight a difficult war against an inhuman foe is its ability to respect the norms of war to a degree never seen before in history. In fact we have been losing hundreds of men every year because we have put such a tight reign on their ability to fight.

Now, contrast this with UN peacekeepers, who can't help setting up child prostitution rings in the myriad countries they fail to keep the peace in...

86 83 Where does Assange live? His address and phone number should be public information.

According to him he's constantly on the run and living out of his backpack. Somebody on yesterday's WikiLeaks thread said he's probably gone to ground in Sweden now, which means he's essentially untouchable.

87

So are we against collateral damage or not? If we give a shit about Afghans then let's actually go to war, all out war, not "be really careful" war.

Not sure about anybody else, but I'm all for reducing collateral damage whenever possible, with one simple caveat.  Not if it endangers the lives of our own troops.

If we can reduce collateral damage without putting our own troops lives at greater risk, great.  If not, well people get killed in a warzone.  It's unfortunate, but it does happen.  And when your dealing with an enemy that hides among civilian populations and uses them as a sheild, well then this is the fault of the enemy.  Plain and simple.

88 I know Assange probably considered himself a "celebrity" already, but now that everyone know what he looks like, and what he's done, I don't think his "on-the-road" existence is gonna be so much fun.

89 "the White House knew informants' names could be exposed but did nothing to help WikiLeaks vet the data."

Dateline 1944

The White House admitted today that it new Herr Assange could expose the landing sites for the Normandy invasion but did nothing to help him vet the data.

90 According to him he's constantly on the run and living out of his backpack. Somebody on yesterday's WikiLeaks thread said he's probably gone to ground in Sweden now, which means he's essentially untouchable.

Posted by: joncelli at July 29, 2010 12:25 PM (RD7QR)

Well, I have no doubt that the US government could close down Wikileaks and find Mr Assange if it made either a priority.

91 Thoughts
1/ Although this asswipe guy seems despicable, Journalist have a long history of rationalizing their acts of treason. Really all he did was give the NYT a trailblazer so that they did not have to be the first ones to publish.

2/ I save my greatest enmity for the guy that stole and handed him the documents.

3/ Liberals have a way of always finding the silver lining in acts taht are disastrous to the country, their safety, our troops, our econmy, etc. (9/11, problems in Iraq, treasons leaks, ...) Is this what it means to have no soul?

4/ Sometimes I am so clueless reading these comments. Did he and Ackerman really convert, or is this some joke I missed on an earlier thread.

5/ The guys get shirts

92 Actually yes, you may disagree with the Pentagon Papers decision, but that is law. If a journalist wants to release classified information that is newsworthy, they can, period. 

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 29, 2010 12:24 PM (0q2P7)

People have been pushing this tripe for a long time, but it's clear that it is nothing more than a joke.  Pretty much every bit of classified information is "newsworthy".  That's why it's classified, in the first place.

This argument that journalists should be able to determine, on their own, what is in the national security interests of the US and what isn't, is one of the craziest defenses I have ever heard in my life.  By this, any Soviet spy could have transferred all of their information via a "journalist" (anyone publishing a pamphlet with the information would qualify) and it would all be legal, with the transmission to the Soviets having taken place.  That is, clearly, insane.

Many are going to continue to claim that "journalists" have the right to make determinations of what US national security demands and the "journalists" will continue releasing sensitive data (and being backed by many in their "journalistic endeavor" LOL) until the public has really had enough of this idiocy - which has no basis in logic or reason, at all. 

93

How did this freaken idiot ever get elected?

An uninformed electorate that had no idea how radical he truly was, even though many of us spotted him coming from a mile away.  They relied on feel good sound bites about hope and change and closed their eyes to everything else.  A complicit press corps, that hid Obama's radicalism and lack of experience, that conspired to discredit anyone or anything that would prevent him from winning the Presidency.

And then of course the Republican primaries, where they nominated a candidate that most of us who are conservatives were completely disgusted by and who, if he had been elected, probably wouldn't have been much different from Obama on many issues.

Add to that a concerted effort during the entire previous eight years by the mainstream media to paint Bush as evil incarnate, and shazaam!  You get a one term Junior Senator with absolutely zero executive experience vaulted to the Presidency, and just a year later you have the greatest nation in the world placed into a suicidal nose dive from which we may not be able to recover.

94 If I understand correctly the NYT put him in contact with the WH as far as vetting information. Legally, I think -- and INAL -- working through the NYT would make Assange a journalist, with all the accompanying protections. Thus the WH would have had the responsibility of telling the NYT and Assange what to redact. They did tell him to protect US personnel but for some reason didn't think of the Afghans. MikeTheMoose is right -- as contemptible as the little pussy is, he probably has not done anything you can convict him for. Manning is a different story, and deserves to sample the pleasures of Fort Leavenworth's shower stalls on his knees.

95

To expand a bit, I don't advocate murdering Assange a la VanGogh, just pointing out that that kind of retaliation has apparently been quite effective at getting the media to take a rather hands off approach toward militant islam.

I do believe that sort of incentive structure will eventually come back to bite a lot of "journalists" in the ass....very, very hard. 

96

Algore "Well it's not like he released the super serious name of  Valerie Plame". My questions, who is this Pfc. Bradley Manning? How did he have access to this data? Were there no checks and balance's or restrictions on data dumping?

97 Julian Assange could die in a Freak Gasoline Fight Accident.  It happens.  

98 Posted by: Trimegistus at July 29, 2010 12:22 PM (HLNXZ)

Apparently he is an australian citizen who literally lives out of a back pack, has no phone and does all his communication via laptop.  although some MSM talking head did say that "he recently bought a little house in Iceland".

99

An uninformed electorate that had no idea how radical he truly was, even though many of us spotted him coming from a mile away. 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 29, 2010 12:33 PM (e8T35)

The electorate knew.  Everyone knew.

The guy's biggest campaign rally was in friggin' GERMANY!  IN GERMANY!  How many Presidential candidates have ever held campaign rallies in foreign lands?

People knew exactly what they were voting for.

100 If memory serves, Manning is a computer guy who somehow had access to the State Department's cable servers. He uploaded the cables anonymously through WikiLeaks. My impression is that he considered the whole thing an amusing hack. I doubt he's laughing now.

101 Assange must have unlimited money, the way he talks, and the way the MSM portrays him....

102

My questions, who is this Pfc. Bradley Manning? How did he have access to this data? Were there no checks and balance's or restrictions on data dumping?

Posted by: Buffalobob at July 29, 2010 12:36 PM (KAal5)

Search for him at Wired Magazine's Threat Level blog. They have a bunch of posts about that include his history. He's one of their heroes.

103

Those on the left who cheered this release really need to be held to account for what they supported. Andrew Sullivan, the various members of the Glenn Greenwald Collective, members of the MFM and the like need to be held accountable for what they are supporting...

DrewM.

Great idea Drew, but just how would we hold them accountable? Without going places that Ace does not want us going, what would be the plan for that? Do we write letters to the editor and just hope that they get published?

If you are counting on any meaningful element of the MFM reporting our message of dissatisfaction and the resultant uprising of popular opinion will force them to "do the right thing" then you reside in as much of a fantasy land as those preaching 'ANFO and box trucks' that want to kick start the popular revolution.

I'm not trying to be unpleasant, but what is to be done?

104

The guy's biggest campaign rally was in friggin' GERMANY!  IN GERMANY!  How many Presidential candidates have ever held campaign rallies in foreign lands?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 29, 2010 12:38 PM (Qp4DT)

I would just note that something along these lines had occured before.  Not a campaign rally, but Jesse Jackson, during the 1984 campaign, decided that he was in charge of US foreign policy while he was in the Presidential race and skooted down to Cuba to get the release of a bunch of criminals.  Yay.

Of course, Jackson should have been tossed from the race and jailed, just as the Indonesian Imbecile should have been tossed from the race after his rally in Germany.  But, all McShame could think to say about that was that the Indonesian was a celebrity ...

105

My questions, who is this Pfc. Bradley Manning?

A piece of human filth that is taking up perfectly good air that someone else could be breathing, apparently.

How did he have access to this data?

From the research I've done thus far he's a US Army intelligence analyst.  It would appear he's also a traitor of the highest order, a reprobate who's conduct is beneath contempt.

Were there no checks and balance's or restrictions on data dumping?

Apparently none that were effective enough to stop him prior to leaking the data, but sufficient to provide evidence that he's the culprit responsible.  With any luck they'll convict this slimy cockroach and imprison him for the rest of his miserable life. 

 

 

106 "Everything You Need To Know About The Glenn Beck Goldline Scheme"
Posted by: NOW at July 29, 2010 11:58 AM (p302b)

He has mentioned more than once that
A. Goldline makes the most off of gold coins and their commission on other products is far less.

B. He buys the coins but that doesn't mean you should.

BTW
40% on buying coins of any type from a coin dealer is pretty 'typical'. I have seen many dealers charge up to 100% even for common low value coins. Go ahead, go buy a 1964 silver quarter fair condition. It's worth little more than the silver in the coin, buy it from a dealer you will pay twice it's value.

If you are buying a product, and you knowingly let yourself get steered to the product that you know the salesman makes the most money on, that's not some nefarious plot, that is you being box of hair stupid.

107

Assange must have unlimited money, the way he talks, and the way the MSM portrays him....

Posted by: ugh at July 29, 2010 12:40 PM (p302b)

He's also a hero at the link I posted in comment 102. Lots of info about Assange and Wikileaks. He's a major hero there.

108

How did he have access to this data?

My understanding is that he may have smuggled it out each night in his portable CD player disguised as a music disk.

So what is his background? is he another diversity hire?

109 It is amazing to me how much modern socialists/liberals/etc. parallel the most radical jihadis.  There is a concept among the radicals where they say that it is permissible to kill other Muslims because they aren't *really* Muslim if they aren't down with jihad.

Both of them have the concept of lying for the cause, too.

110

I'm not trying to be unpleasant, but what is to be done?

The same thing we've been doing, talking about it.  Letting others know that these vile idiots aren't journalists, aren't news reporters, their partisan political hacks of the highest order.

I realize that many times it seems like were just "preaching to the choir", but it is having an effect.  Just look at the ratings.  People are tuning them out, because their starting to realize that what they hear on the MSM is more akin to propoganda than news.

Granted, it's painfully slow.  I wish there were a quicker solution, but for now it's the best we've got.

111 There is a simple answer to the soulless statist when they prattle about eggs and omelets:

"So, where's the omelet?"

112

I'm curious, Drew. Why do some people here accuse you of being a rhino or a liberal?

Seriously.

I haven't seen any evidence of that _{..., well, unless they lump all dufuses in with rhinos and liberals.}

113 Liberals always talk about how much we can learn from other cultures.   It's time we learn from Islam.

Cut off Assange's typing fingers.

114 People have been pushing this tripe for a long time

Again you make the equally dubious claim that the Government can block the publishing of any document by stamping a word on it. That too, makes no rational sense in to a free and open society. Unless you have, again, an unqualified trust in Government to keep secrets from you.

115 I think one of our retired soldiers that was a veteran of the war in Afghanistan should prosecute this scumbag....in the revenge kinda way.

116 Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 29, 2010 12:46 PM

Once again, I can only imagine the reaction -- in Germany, as well as among the MSM and wacko-libs -- if any other presidential candidate have held campaign rallies in a foreign country.

Jackson and Osama Obama? They have a built-in free pass for such behavior.

Both of them exploit their advantage 24/7. Talk about the ultimate in welfare cheaters!

117 I think we should turn the little punk over the to family (or families) of his first Afghan victims.  You know that would be bound to suck.

118 so, wait, Julian Assange Hates Islam?

119 -->Again you make the equally dubious claim that the Government can block the publishing of any document by stamping a word on it.

Equally?  You think that the claim that the government and military are the official judges of what constitutes national security versus "journalists" deciding what constitutes national security are "equally dubious claims"?  Really?

-->That too, makes no rational sense in to a free and open society. Unless you have, again, an unqualified trust in Government to keep secrets from you.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 29, 2010 12:51 PM (0q2P7)

Er ... you do understand the need for classified information, right?  Free and open society doesn't mean that that society can't have any spy organizations or covert operations.

There are alternatives to just publishing information, you know.  Like taking it to some other arm of the government, where it is still kept secret unless a determination is made (not by journalists) that it would not be harmful to the nation on release.

You are taking a stupid liberal ruling (not unlike abortion or Kelo or any other piece of stupidity to flow from the SCOTUS) and trying to argue its merits.  There are none.

I DO NOT TRUST JOURNALISTS with US national security.  Even if they were well intentioned, they are friggin' journalists - i.e. idiots.  If you trust journalists with making the most important judgments of national security, then ... I don't even know what to say.  Maybe you'll get lucky and the journalists' desire to have global warming stopped (a national security issue, according to the "journalists") will end up in global government to get the US in line.  Yep ... gotta trust those journalists.  They know what's best and always have our nation's best interests at heart.  Yep ...

120 I question the motive of the asswipe a little further - there is a major internet regulation bill coming up for consideration in DC. Deep pockets on both sides of the issue. This asswipe's stunt could kill or tilt the bill - and someone would have paid well for that.

121 All journalists are spies.

122 -->Once again, I can only imagine the reaction -- in Germany, as well as among the MSM and wacko-libs -- if any other presidential candidate have held campaign rallies in a foreign country.

Yep.  At the time, I was dumb-founded that America was allowing that to happen.  I just couldn't believe it.  At that point, I figured it was all over.

-->Jackson and Osama Obama? They have a built-in free pass for such behavior.

-->Both of them exploit their advantage 24/7. Talk about the ultimate in welfare cheaters!

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 29, 2010 12:57 PM (Ulu3i)

Big time.  And it's all right out in the open.  Unreal.

America has never lacked the information about these scumbags.  Everyone knows (and always knew) who and what these despicable scumbags are.

123
It is my sincere hope that the CIA still has at least one extraordinary rendition camp up and running in some god forsaken shit hole of a country that they can disappear this crapweasel to

124 Ass-Flange. That should be his name.

125

He's also a hero at the link I posted in comment 102. Lots of info about Assange and Wikileaks. He's a major hero there. - Ed Anger

 

And that's a big part of the story, too.  Besides the MFM, there are plenty of places on th eInternet that will lionize Manning.  It will be a be "a big fucking deal" when this guy is tried, and another wedge issue to drive us apart. What he "leaked" just re-inforces the negative image of the military that about half the population has.

And yes, the Obama Regime WANTED this leaked for all those reasons, and much more.  Watch how the Court Martial of Manning gets knee-capped by the civilian side of the DoD.

 

126 “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” - General William Tecumseh Sherman

127 There will be Afghan refugees.  Some with long memories. 

128 126  I have always loved that quote.

129 Er ... you do understand the need for classified information, right? 

I sure do, and have probably held higher clearance than most here, and I am well aware of a strong habit to over-classify sensitive material. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Let's say someone leaks something highly embarrassing to the Obama admin about their plans to convert the US to socialism; Marked CONFIDENTIAL, you would hand it over to Pelosi? Good call, I'm sure it will get all the attention it deserves.

The Supreme court decision was simply the Government could not arbitrarily suppress information through classification; I do agree with that decision.

However, a "journalist" who has come into contact with classified material does have a responsibility, even if he believes it contains a good story, not to aid the enemy or endanger US soldiers in its release. Morally I think Assange missed the mark by a mile, deliberately. But having contacted the WH (if he truly did so) I think legally puts him in the right. Even if he is a slimeball.

130 ... and those agrevating circumstances ...

According to the translation, Mullah Omar’s five-point directive reads:
1. Fight coalition forces to the death without withdrawing or surrendering; attempt to capture coalition forces whenever possible.
2. Capture and kill any Afghan who is supporting and/or working for coalition forces or the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
3. Capture and kill any Afghan women who are helping or providing information to coalition forces.
4. Recruit anyone that has access to coalition force bases and have the ability to collect detailed information about coalition forces.
5. Purchase or obtain more heavy weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and anti-aircraft machine guns.

Points 2 and 3 are a dramatic about-face for the Taliban leader. In the summer of 2009, Omar issued a Code of Conduct for Taliban forces that explicitly commanded his shadow governors and other Taliban leaders to do the opposite.

131

I'd take bets that somone's going to kill this guy within 3 months.

132 Yes, the anti-war pacifist is perfectly ok with people being assassinated, so long as those assassinations harm the US Military and US causes.

Um... I'm not sure the definition of him as "anti-war" really works at this point; can we just call him what he is?  A "freedom fighter" working to destroy America (The "great Satan" if you prefer) in any means he can, even if innocent civilians get killed through his actions...

What do we call that for short?  Torvoldist?   No, something like that... willing to kill innocent civilians to attack America?  Narrowist?  That doesn't seem right either.

Well give me a bit, I'll come up with it.  Willing to see innocent civilians die to attack American interests in any way possible... I'm pretty sure anti-war pacifist isn't the term.

Man-made disaster creator?

133 130  Their support is a lot less than they thought it would be

134

I love Assange's idiotic argument:  "That said, if we were forced into a position of publishing all of the archives or none of the archives we would publish all . . . because it's extremely important to the history of this war."

Look, no classified documents should have been released. But if he was going to release documents, who the hell was forcing him to release all of them or none of them? How about choices like redacting information or not releasing all of the information? Any person with a  conscience, even if they were misguided enough or dumb enough to release the documents, would certainly realize that releasing the names of informants, their locations and their families names and locations serves no useful purpose unless you're a terrorist or terrorist supporter (but I repeat myself). 

Was something apparently so important that it wasn't worth this fucking assholes time to read what he was releasing. Fuck him. Bring the weight of the law down on him, the leaker and anyone who stood by and allowed it to be released.

This is treasonous, but the guy is also a grandstanding douchebag for not being willing to sift through the documents and exersize eany kind of discretion as to what was released.

Why is there no real discussion in the MSM about apprehending this fucking asshole? Where is the action from the WH?  Do the states have to do everything?

135

Julian Assange should be thanking whatever god or gods he believes in that I am not responsible for coordinating his capture. For a fellow that spends a lot of time online, he should know that the NSA can eventually find anybody.

Once he's found, then it's a matter of getting his computer passwords. I would bet a fair sum of money that he will run out of pain threshold before I run out of parts of him to damage. Yes, it's some ugly Sicherheitdienst shit to really torture someone that badly, but just getting his face wet won't do it. Wonder what he'd give up to keep the use of all his typing fingers or his only pair of eyes.

Once I have his passwords, it's just a matter of digging in his e-mail in-boxes. Nothing is ever erased completely on the Internet, and I can find some smart people to handle that part.

Then once we have what we need, his body is found in a hotel room in women's clothing with a heroin needle in his arm. What a shame.

136 Why is there no real discussion in the MSM about apprehending this fucking asshole?
Are you kidding?? He's one of them.

Where is the action from the WH? 
Again, are you kidding?

Do the states have to do everything?
Yes, in fact they do. And then they get sued by Eric Holder and the DOJ.

137 You say 'despicable' , I say he needs to be put down ( in the English sense ).

I myself would not harm a hair on his bushy head--as that would be illegal--but if I noticed someone tip-toeing up behind him with an axe & a lunatic grin, I wouldn't say a word to warn him or make a move to protect him

as ye sow, so shall ye reap.........

138

Eh, me an' my crew knows how to handle rats.

Two behind the ear, trunk of a Lincoln at long term parking in JFK, bada-bing, bada-bang, bada-boom.

Done and done, time to go get some scungili from Valerio's.  Yeah, on 54th.  Best in The City.  Fuckin' fuhgeddaboudit.

139 If someone in the Obama administration had this and either didn't respond or okayed its publication, they should be sharing a cell with Assange.

At least until the incessant high-pitched self-congratulatory whining drives them plumb out of their wits.

I am really truly sickened by this. The so-called peace movement knows full well that it aligns itself with brutal dictators, murderers and thugs against those who would stop them - the lies about peace are for our consumption.

They're not anti-war, they're just on the other side - Anyone else remember Evan Sayet? Explained pretty well why the insane left keeps backing the worst over anyone else.

140 Iowahawk is the only person I know of who can take the "twit" out of Twitter.  Sorry, Ace.

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