1 Hey, there is a reason ole Bam is the number one recipient of our largess of any elected official.

Odd thought that he and his friends in the media don't want to talk about it...isn't it?

2 I wish Independents could read.

3 They are complete imbeciles. Even if BP was in bed with the junta beforehand, and this was a nod and a wink sort of thing, this kind of thing really pisses of the leftists.

Good.

4 They are complete imbeciles. Even if BP was in bed with the junta beforehand, and this was a nod and a wink sort of thing, this kind of thing really pisses of the leftists.

Good.

5 They are complete imbeciles. Even if BP was in bed with the junta beforehand, and this was a nod and a wink sort of thing, this kind of thing really pisses of the leftists.

Good.

6 I'm sure glad Obama shook them down for the $20B slush fund.  That way, he can give half of it to us to pay for our half of the $20B slush fund he just shook us down for.

7 What the fuck happened?!


By the way, I'm still gonna moon 0bama when he drives by.

8 When did Ace start commenting as J.J. Sefton?

9 That way, he can give half of it to us to pay for our half of the $20B slush fund he just shook us down for.

Posted by: Truman North at July 28, 2010 05:05 PM (e8YaH)

Your money? Don't care.

Thanks sweetie. Now watch this drive.

10 Teh Won probably has steam coming out of his oversized ears about now.

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BP used Turbotax  to discover the deduction.

12 Teh Won probably has steam coming out of his oversized ears about now. Posted by: Ian S.

Hard to have that much pressure in a vacuum.

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14 See? It's a write-off.

15 How can they tell people they can't deduct legitimate business expenses from gross sales to determine taxable profits?

That would sure enough wind up in court if I had any hand in it.

16

A deduction isn't a rebate. It sounds like to me the $10 billion is deducted of the NIBT, which reduces their tax liability. I don't think they will actually get $10 billion from the government.

That's not to say this is another failure of the Obama admin. because they certainly promised to close all those nasty corporate loopholes.

17 oops, sock off.

18 Teh Won probably has steam coming out of his oversized ears about now.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 28, 2010 05:08 PM (p05LM)

Not at all.  The Precedent doesn't give a shit about any of this, or anything like this.  He never did.  He's just happy when chaos is being fomented, and this is just another step in that direction.  Having the administration look incompetent, or criminal, aids in taking the US down (which is the ONLY thing The Precedent cares about) since it saps more faith and trust out of our essential institutions.  If someone asks him, he'll just lie and say that they didn't know.  It worked last time this sort of thing happened (remember the Porkulus and how a little tidbit about ensuring bonuses for those getting TARP money was included in it - by Dodd, who claimed he didn't know how he had done that?).  The only reaction The Precedent had was to send a bunch of union goons to scare the crap out of some executives' families at their homes.

19 my thoughts.
barry knew about this when the deal was struck My guess is BP was willing to go to $10B, and barry negotiated it up to $20B with a write off meaning BP only paid half, but it made barry look better. Figured the rubes would never catch on.

20 How could we not be surprised there not a bit of the "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" going.

Has a US President ever appeared on a morning talk show, or any talk show? Why is BHO so desperate to be a celebrity. And the View, who's going to watch it, the stay at home parent, christ he is preaching to his choir.

21 It does not "come out of government coffers". The money will not go in in the first place since it won't be paid as taxes. Actually seems like the right way to do it according to established tax principles. By the way, the cost is ultimately paid for by the final purchasers of the oil, consumers.

22
Figured the rubes would never catch on.

This.

23 There is no way the administration did not consider this. Even they are not that incompetent.
When I first heard of the fund, my FIRST thought was "do they get the write off?"  Anyone that knows anything about business, taxes, or liability would have considered this. No, like i said above varry conspired with BP to make the number seem higher.

24 "It looks to me like maybe the administration goofed here," he added.

Maybe it wasn't a goof.  Perhaps it was deliberate.  This will make BP look more corrupt and the Federal gov't more incompetent. 

25

A deduction isn't a rebate. It sounds like to me the $10 billion is deducted of the NIBT, which reduces their tax liability. I don't think they will actually get $10 billion from the government.

That's not to say this is another failure of the Obama admin. because they certainly promised to close all those nasty corporate loopholes.

Posted by: Prof. Venkman at July 28, 2010 05:14 PM (Bs34i)

An interesting situation, because BP writes off the $20 billion slush fund and more, and thus reduces its tax liability by $10 billion.

But was the expected tax revenue the government's money or was it BP's money that the government merely expected to receive?

I wonder if structuring the $20 billion as a fine would have made it non-deductible?  I don't know what classes of business expenditure are non-deductible under the tax code.

26

 By the way, the cost is ultimately paid for by the final purchasers of the oil, consumers.

Wait...then that would mean that raising taxes on businesses means their customers will bear that extra cost. The businesses simply pass along their costs to their customers....

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!

27 Why do people hate us?

28 this kind of thing really pisses of the leftists.

No it doesn't. They just say it does.

29 It does seen to me to be a business expense and therefore allowed as a write-off.

30 and slightly off thread -
My guess is that Lockerbie letter is also a plant. They knew it would have to be released and put in BS language about Megrahi being "imprisoned for the remainder of his life" to look tough and justified in their decision to set him free.

Further, the letter seems like proof that everyone knew he had no stinking cancer. cancer was the excuse they needed. couldn't just set him free, so we make believe he has cancer. yeah, that's the ticket.

figured the rubes would never catch on.

31 No, like i said above varry conspired with BP to make the number seem higher.
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Considering that not many people in the WH have experience in the business world, I could see how they didn't consider all of the implications of their decisions. You know Barry left that meeting feeling very proud of himself, and is now eating crow.

32 it could prove to be embarrassing for the Obama administration

I think the Obama administration is too growed-up to be embarrassed about anything.  Otherwise they'd all have resigned about now.

33 Hell,  Obama is a hoops fan.

Charles Barkley made a point of saying that the fines he was given were tax-deductible.   So there goes Obama's plausible-deniability excuse.

AND

Barkley, back in 1997, became Spencer Ackerman's idol

Charles Barkley he Houston Rockets star Charles Barkley was arrested early yesterday in Orlando, Fla., for hurling a bar patron through a plate-glass window after the man reportedly tossed a glass of ice at him.

The police said Barkley told the man as he lay bleeding on the ground: ''You got what you deserve. You don't respect me. I hope you're hurt.''

The 20-year-old bar patron, Jorge Lugo, was treated at a hospital for a minor laceration to his upper right ar

"Jorge Lugo" would later change his name to "Jonah Goldberg"

34 have had a lot of WS types tell me that they think that they are going to chop off the bad part and leave it with all the debt and then be viable all around.  I guess the bad part is the US part?

35 Yeahyeahyeah, oil spill BP environmental and economic destruction yadda yadda yadda yadda.  Can we talk about me now?

36 Yes, to a commie any evil business that deduct legitimate business costs from gross sales is taking advantage of a "loophole" that was most likely purchased by an evil lobbyist.

But on the other hand, a great organization like Greenpeace should be able to deduct the cost of raising money from gross receipts as they are a "grass roots" advocacy group.

Wait, who am I kidding here. They let groups like Greenpeace get of on 501(3c) and pay no taxes.  

37 Maybe BP could make Andrew Cohen a dependent and thus write off his kleenex bills and jackoff magazines.

38 Gotta agree. Legitimate business expense reduces earnings and taxes. The left will probably be more upset about this then the folks on the right. The folks in the middle will still worry about the finalists in "Dancing With The Stars" and who was on 'the View' today.

39 The other $12B are the clean up costs.  So far.  The costs will get higher saving even more money on taxes.  But so far they are out of pocket a net $22B.

Why shouldn't BP be able to deduct their operating expenses like any other company?  The Goldman Sachs comparison is a straw man, GS paid government fines.  Government fines are not deductible under any circumstances.  The fines BP eventually pays will not be deductible either.  The cleanup costs and extorted amounts are deductible as normal operating expenses.  The only leg the IRS MIGHT have to stand on is the timing of the deduction.

Lots of other twists to this, but the article was VERY poorly written, attributing all tax savings to the slush fund and none to cleanup costs..  Then again, BP could have refused to pay for cleanup costs and slush funds until forced to and banked the net $22B for the next ten years.

40 It does seen to me to be a business expense and therefore allowed as a write-off.

If causing monetary damages to private individuals is part of your business plan then sure. In that case though I would argue that their business plan is unethical and that their corporate charter should be revoked as a result.

41 That's some sound economics right there.

42

A deduction isn't a rebate. It sounds like to me the $10 billion is deducted of the NIBT, which reduces their tax liability. I don't think they will actually get $10 billion from the government. Posted by: Prof. Venkman

No, but losses can be carried forward up to something like 7 years. This year is a guaranteed loss for BP, no taxes. Next year they will be able to deduct up to $10 bill on their taxes.

So it's not so much that the government has to pay them, but BP will get to keep $10 bill somewhere down the line.

The only potentially bad thing I see is the Oministration coming back to the table and demanding BP use next year's profit to set up BS enviro-crap programs.

43 The Precedent doesn't give a shit about any of this, or anything like this.  He never did.

Eh, they're depriving a socialist of tax money.  He cares.

44 Hey, I can moon 0bama in person! He's right down the block from me at a $30,000 per plate fundraiser at Anna Wintour's house.


MOON RIVER.......

45

Seems the most competent administration ever, let BP set up the compensation fund in a way that they can write about half of it off.

Must be that "ass he was looking to kick".

46 First part of the post was about they have had $32B of operating expenses, including cleanup costs of $12B and the extorted $20B.  At the top federal rate of 35% they save roughly $10B in taxes.  They are so far out of pocket $22B.  Attributing the tax savings of the cleanup costs to the slush fund only is distortion.  On the $20B they would save roughly $7B in taxes, or a net $13B cost.  Anything higher is pure spin.

47 I wonder if structuring the $20 billion as a fine would have made it non-deductible?  I don't know what classes of business expenditure are non-deductible under the tax code.

when the government puts a gun to your head, they can tell you that the payoff is deductible or not. Everyone that negotiated this had to consider deductibility.

no, they knew they had a choice and the choice they took a/ made the number look bigger than what it actually cost BP, b/ gave the government control of more money (indirectly it is a diversion of $10B or so from tax revenue to some bureaucrat, and c/ gave barry more money to inject into a region to buy votes - using it just like Clinton used FEMA.

the other choice would have been to make it a $10B (or whatever depending on the tax rate) but not deductible.

barry chose the way he did because it was easy money and he thinks we are fools.

48

The narcistic one is heading to the View, rather than attending the 100th Anniverary of the Boy Scouts.  Bastard.  me before thee.

49 Eh, they're depriving a socialist of tax money.  He cares.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 28, 2010 05:28 PM (p05LM)

Don't kid yourself.  The Precedent is no socialist.  He's a third worlder bent on exacting revenge (in his fevered pea-brain) on the US and the West.  That's it.  He uses socialists and socialism, because they're so effective at fucking up nations and because it is so foreign to America.  Other than that, The Precedent has no real political ideas. He's too stupid to understand much of actual governmental policies, but he just doesn't care, anyway.  All The Precedent is about is the destruction of the US and the West. Nothing else.

50 "the most competent administration ever"

Has yet to prove that.  Other than Barry saying it's so.

51 "
barry chose the way he did because it was easy money and he thinks we are fools.

Posted by: nine coconuts at July 28, 2010 05:31 PM (DHNp4)"

And Barry's right.  Most people will not give a shit about what you mentioned.

It's a shame, but they won't realize this is a ploy to grab more wealth to spend, regardless of it coming from taxpayers or BP, and have a huge number as 'penalty'. 

We are too stupid, hence how we got in this place.  Even if we elect a reform government, it is only going to prolong the inevitable.  People demand more entitlements from 'rich people'.  They have let the mask slip, but in the long wrong, they know they have won major fights like Obamacare, at the expense of taking a break from power.  They will get it back.

52 Eh, they're depriving a socialist of tax money.  He cares.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 28, 2010 05:28 PM (p05LM)

Further, the Indonesian Imbecile addressed this exact issue (depriving the government of tax money) when he said during a primary debate that he would still raise capital gains taxes, even if it meant reduced receipts to the government.  The Precedent doesn't care about redistributing money.  All he cares about is bringing pain and destruction to whites, in general, and the successful specifically.

53 barry chose the way he did because it was easy money and he thinks we are fools.

I doubt he even thought about it. From what I've heard it was a 20 minute closed door conversation. One for which Barry  was probably totally unprepared, with a tee time in a half hour. BP, meanwhile, had done a ton of research, had arrived at a 'most likely' final cost of cleanup, and offered a deal which made Barry look like the hero.

I'm sure the lefties are going to twist their panties in a knot over this. On the job training, what can you say?

54 #49 & #52

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. You have it exactly correct. he has half-formed, adolescent ideas of what our country should be, and no coherent path to get there other than, "everything before me was wrong."

55 he Precedent is no socialist.  He's a third worlder bent on exacting revenge (in his fevered pea-brain) on the US and the West.

can't he be both?

56

"On the job training, what can you say?'

Sounds like something could be used in upcoming election compaign if the republican leadership would pull it's head out of it's ....

57
Does this mean that Community Organizers aren't well versed in tax law or surround themselves with competent tax attorney's to avoid looking like a complete fuck-up?

58 can't he be both?

Posted by: nine coconuts at July 28, 2010 05:48 PM (DHNp4)

Sure he can.  I'm just convinced that he's not.  He seems to like ruling by fiat from a single, central authority - based on empathy, so that no actual law would ever really matter too much.  That is about the extent of his thoughts on governmental structure that I have been able to discern.

There's no question (in my mind) that he's on a third world revenge fantasy.  It was his having grown up in Indonesia (especially just after Sukarno was thrown out and the country was in particular chaos) that did it, I think.

59 Is it too late to get Shirley Sherrod in on this gravy train?

60

 Is it too late to get Shirley Sherrod in on this gravy train?

Great idea! I was thinking of getting involved in fishing and hotel franchising before the racist organization, BP, discouraged me from doing so.

61 #58

I used to think that he was a hard-core "progressive" who learned to govern  from Alinsky and Stalin. But recently I have come around to your thinking. He is intellectually flacid, and seems to make his decisions based on soft analysis of the situation; thus the constant shooting from the hip.

And...he is stupid. Obama has led a life in which he was told, almost from birth, that he was special. He was given everything he had, and came to expect that all things would flow to him as a matter of course. He never developed the rigor that is required of a successful businessman or, for that matter, a politician. He is the ultimate expression of affirmative action.

62

 

In the future, everyone will be on The View for 15 minutes.

63

Is it too late to get Shirley Sherrod in on this gravy train?

I'll worry about my own gravy train. The bigger question is.........its Wednesday, which one of you crackas gonna apologize to me today!

64 At the least, any deduction should correspond to the amount of payments out of the fund for that particular year. 

65 And...he is stupid. Obama has led a life in which he was told, almost from birth, that he was special. He was given everything he had, and came to expect that all things would flow to him as a matter of course. He never developed the rigor that is required of a successful businessman or, for that matter, a politician. He is the ultimate expression of affirmative action.

Posted by: NJConservative at July 28, 2010 06:02 PM (LH6ir)

Exactly.

66

In the future, everyone will be on The View for 15 minutes

Can I use 14 and 1/2 minutes of that time to ruthlessly beat Behar and Whoopi. The other 30 seconds, debating how bad Matt Hassleback will beat me if I make a pass at his wife.

67 Is it too late to get Shirley Sherrod in on this gravy train?

Did somebody say gravy?

68

BP gets to write off 1/2 of the compensation fund.......well, that sounds like corporate welfare to me...............why, the administration is letting fat cats get wealthy while the middle class suffers.....why, Bush should be tried.......what, wait.....Obama did this?

Uh, never mind....next on the Ed Show.........I masturbate to an Obama speech.

69 61 #58

 He is intellectually flacid, and seems to make his decisions based on soft analysis of the situation; thus the constant shooting from the hip.

1/ Agree completely, but I also think his instincts are socialist, spread the wealth, rich are evil, poor are playing a fools game,... socialist. Clinton was also intelectuallly flaccid (i said intelectually) but did not have the socialist proclivities like barry does


And...he is stupid. Obama has led a life in which he was told, almost from birth, that he was special. He was given everything he had,

1/ Again, agree, but I think he is extremely insecure of his intellect, competence, and worth. He seems to know that he has power to win over people using the old tactics of being none threatening and telling them what they want to hear, but I think he knows that that is his only skill. He strikes me as extremely insecure and willing to go along with whatever someone smart says and he has surrounded himself with socialists his whole life.

2/ He's like a little boy who discovered his special toy and thinks he is the only one that has one. For him the toy is lying. He thinks he can lie, and no one notices. Like I said, he thinks we are fools, and yes, with the help of the MFM most people are so uninformed that they act like fools and he can get away with it. He said this about BP, that the head would only "lie," but he talks as if there are no consequences for his lies. This, I think, is what he thinks his special power is. He is too immature and egocentric to have a world view where it is important to tell the truth as a statement of character or as a defense against future trouble.

70 You didn't think BP contributed all that money for nothing, did you?

Keep watching the circus, bread is coming around.

71 Drew if your are still monitoring need the Ace banhammer at post 124 on the Humpday thread.

72 But Obama is the smartestest executive, ever!!?

73 meh - I don't think he's on a "third world revenge fantasy" - and I too recall that part from the debates where he said he'd raise tax rates even if revenue dropped, because it would be "more fair".  that's what really motivates these progressives, "fairness", even if they can't quantifiably define it and even if it means pain and suffering to some.  It's all a plan to "reshape America".

74 Many comments make a reference to BP's tax deduction. It's not a deduction, it's a credit

BP said Tuesday that it is incurring a charge of $32.2 billion from the Gulf response, and as such, it is claiming a $9.9 billion taxation credit.

They're not reducing their taxable income by $10 bill, they have a pure tax reduction of of $10 bill.

Beyond that I understand nothing so argue amongst yourselves.

(re-enters lurker mode)

75 It is NOT a tax credit. If you got that from a newspaper article its wrong.

76 Err, cleanup needed on aisle 124 of the Humpday Open thread please.

77 I'd let President McUnicornhuckster belittle and berate me on National TV for $10 Billion too!  Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

78 When a company says in a press release that they are "taking a charge" or a "write-down" that means they are applying the full cost that quarter. What that effects is two things, the obvious first impact is calculated profit.

From that calculated profit then comes the impact on dividends (you know that thingy the UK pensioners were depending on).

If the calculated profit goes to zero or negative, guess what, no dividends. (usually)

79 I'd let President McUnicornhuckster belittle and berate me on National TV for $10 Billion too!

For $500, I'll belittle and berate you and private. You may lick my boots, but that costs extra.

80 And yet you all keep defending big business, complaining about government 'overregulation' as they continue doing things like this. Even as you complain about them screwing you over. Schizophrenia defined.

81 I'd let President McUnicornhuckster belittle and berate me on National TV for $10 Billion too!

Hell, for two bucks I'd let you have your way with my sacred honor.

82 -->meh - I don't think he's on a "third world revenge fantasy" -

That's okay.  We just disagree on this.

-->and I too recall that part from the debates where he said he'd raise tax rates even if revenue dropped, because it would be "more fair".  that's what really motivates these progressives, "fairness", even if they can't quantifiably define it and even if it means pain and suffering to some. 

But this is the point.  It had nothing to do with "fairness", as ideas of "fairness" in redistributing income would have led any reasonable person to want to keep capital gains taxes at the level that would maximize receipts to teh government, to fund the socialist programs.  What the Indonesian Imbecile calls "fairness" is just economic justice - i.e. revenge.  That was what it mean when he showed taht he cared ONLY about punishing the successful and didn't care if that meant reducing receipts to his allegedly treasured poor.

-->It's all a plan to "reshape America".

Posted by: chemjeff at July 28, 2010 06:22 PM (Pm5H

Again, I have to part with you on this.  There is no desire on the Indonesian Imbecile's part, that I can see, to reshape America.  He just wants to screw the nation up so that it collapses.  I come to this view because of the way he has handled legislation, thus far.  The Precedent has not cared one iota what any of these grand programs have actually been, in the details.  He let Congress run hog wild on everything.  The reson he did this, by my reckoning, is because he never cared about any of these programs, nor if they would actually pass Congress, but only that he would do permanent damage to Congress, as an institution, in trying to ram this crap through.  He cared more about destroying the process than the process, itself.  If the legislation passed, then The Precedent is happy.  If it doesn't, then he's happy in causing so much chaos and sapping the faith and trust in our isntitutions.  He has done this with just about everything, from taht idiotic Copenhagen Olympic fiasco to his health scare to financial deform.

A true socialist would have been writing and guiding each of those massive pieces of legislation, with a tight rein on Congress.  Someone who seeks only destruction is the one who likes to try and ram through legislation that no one has even read, himself included.  He just doesn't care what anything says.  It's not what he's about.

That's how I see it all.

83 Also, AOS Morons should not be so quick to bash BP for writing these expenses down against profits.

Suppose you are operating a small business that has multiple levels in the building. Suppose OSHA comes in and declares that all the handrails are 1/64" too low and you must replace all of them at a cost of $50,000.00. If you gross sales for that quarter was $50,000.00 guess what. You now have no profit.

Would you think that you should be forced to pay taxes on $50,000.00 that you did not make that quarter?

And yes, it is the same thing.

84 Hey, JEAsshole: There's a difference between "defending big business" and defending a principle.

On some karmic level, I think BP should have an effective tax rate of about, oh, 1 billion %.  But, I don't believe in extorting them out of all that money because I wouldn't want to do that to ANY company - that would be a bill of attainder.

In other words: screw off

85 So remind me again how BP is making out on this deal?  Their legal liability for cleanup costs, according to initial reports, was capped at $750 million.  They have paid out so far $32 billion less $10 billion tax reduction = $22 billion net out of pocket.  So far, it will go way up.

So they paid out $22 billion instead of $750 million.  The government would have paid the cleanup costs over $750 million but instead refunds $10 billion in taxes.  The government has come out ahead of the game just based on the $12 billion cleanup costs so far. 

And yet, the newspapers report BP is making out while the government loses.  This is all fun house mirrors to me.

86 And yet you all keep defending big business, complaining about government 'overregulation' as they continue doing things like this.

Yeah, I'll defend the right of any business, large or small to write off costs. No motherfucker out there would stay in business if they couldn't deduct legitimate costs. Perhaps when there are no businesses left in this country you'll be happy. Me, I'll be waiting for your starved ass to get within range then I'll be slowly squeezing.

87

I'd let President McUnicornhuckster belittle and berate me on National TV for $10 Billion too!

But first he must blow me!

88 JEA is just like Obama, he wants all the businesses in the country to be owned or operated by the government.

So drive BP into bankruptcy and do a Chavez on them.

89 And yet you all keep defending big business, complaining about government 'overregulation' as they continue doing things like this.

Obama getting $10 billion from BP wasn't regulation. That was doing whatever the fuck he pleases. It was fuckin' beautiful!

90 ... because of the way he has handled legislation, thus far.  The Precedent has not cared one iota what any of these grand programs have actually been, in the details.  He let Congress run hog wild on everything.


another view (my view) is that he does not get involved because he knows less about economics, health care, stimulus, etc, than a whore knows about Sunday. He avoids getting involved because he is in over his head, has no principles, is afraid of being found out, and figures the smart socialist he works with can do the job without revealing him to be a giant cockroach.

That doesn't mean he is not driven to some degree by the idea that socialism is better than what we have now.

I really think this is his main driver domestically, but I see some merit to your revenge theory in his international dealings.

91 Schizophrenia defined.

I agree.

92 Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 28, 2010 06:33 PM

Agreed.

Your analysis leads to disturbing mental images of clueless savages losing their last thin veneer of civilization and rooting through the ruins of the land they destroyed, reveling in having created chaos and pain simply for chaos and pain's sake.

I'm afraid that may indeed may be the result of the Osama Obama regime.

93 progressoverpeace, well here's my take on all of the massive legislation: Obama has let Congress run wild because he's a professorial, hands-off guy.  He's not a detail guy.  It's like a professor telling his grad assistants, "here's my grand hypothesis, now you test it."  Will the grad assistants do quality work?  Who knows, and who cares?  All he wants to do is "prove" the hypothesis, by hook or by crook.  Same thing here - I think he wants to transform America along broad socialist lines, and he doesn't really care about the details.  You may be right but I just don't ascribe such evil motives to him.  I guess that makes me a squish. 

94 JEA is just like Obama, he wants all the businesses in the country to be owned or operated by the government.

The left has turned the phrase 'write off' into some sort of obscenity. Even the cost of the toilet paper that employees use to wipe their backsides is a funkin' write off.

When I was in business, I would have preferred the employees supplied their own toilet paper, and toilets, and water, too. Instead I took the damn 'write off' instead, being the fat-cat corporate pig that I was.

95 BP's done many unethical things both past & present, but this isn't one of them.

In other news, Congress is voting Friday on a bill that would prevent BP from drilling in the Gulf. They also want to punish innocent companies & chase them away from doing business in the US. Can't wait until China starts drilling more in the GoM.

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96 You may be right but I just don't ascribe such evil motives to him.  I guess that makes me a squish. 

Posted by: chemjeff at July 28, 2010 06:47 PM (Pm5H

Fuckin' squish!  Oh, and RINO too! Oh yeah, and racist! Did I forget anything?

97 One of BP's partners is talking to us about buying our oil acreage up in North Dakota. Works for me...

98 O/T: Gee, but the Obama Administration backs down FAST, doesn't it?

US interested in fuel exchange with Iran

By JPOST.COM STAFF

07/28/2010 21:50

The US is willing to follow up with Iran on a plan to provide fuel for a research reactor in Tehran in exchange for some of Iran's low-enriched uranium, the US State Department said on Wednesday, Reuters reported.

"We obviously are fully prepared to follow up with Iran on specifics regarding our initial proposal involving the Tehran research reactor ... as well as, you know, the broader issues of trying to fully understand the nature of Iran's nuclear program," department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters.

"We hope to have the same kind of meeting coming up in the coming weeks that we had last October," he added.

99 Fuckin' squish!  Oh, and RINO too! Oh yeah, and racist! Did I forget anything?

I think you forgot "a gentleman and a scholar".  But I'll settle for "fuckin' squish".

100 99 Fuckin' squish!  Oh, and RINO too! Oh yeah, and racist! Did I forget anything?

I think you forgot "a gentleman and a scholar".  But I'll settle for "fuckin' squish".

Posted by: chemjeff at July 28, 2010 06:53 PM (Pm5H

Dammit! I knew I forgot something!

101 Does anyone remember the tv movie about the charles manson cult that aired in the 70's?
I was a kid, but i still remember his theory and the actor had a line that still sticks with me. something about how after the revolution the blacks would have the power and not know what to do since manson, although trying to bring about a race war, and rooting for the blacks, was a horrible racists. he said he would come down from his mountain hideaway, "scratch blackie's head, kick him in the butt, and tell him to go pick cotton like a good n*****r"

Anyway, I'm not saying I think this was planned or anything, but you gotta wonder at the parallels of an elitist, racist, radical left getting an African American elected and then taking control of his agenda and writing all their dream laws.

I can see Nancy, Harry, Rham, et. al. sitting around saying how it"s time to  "scratch...."

102 Can't wait until China starts drilling more in the GoM.

I drink yoah miwk shake!

103 -->another view (my view) is that he does not get involved because he knows less about economics, health care, stimulus, etc, than a whore knows about Sunday. He avoids getting involved because he is in over his head, has no principles, is afraid of being found out, and figures the smart socialist he works with can do the job without revealing him to be a giant cockroach.

I don't take that view because that has never stopped the Indonesian Imbecile from making a fool of himself getting involved in all sorts of stuff that he, obviously, knows nothing about.  Frankly, he often seems to revel in pontificating and "teaching" people about things that he doesn't know and that everyone with a brain knows that he doesn't know.  His "profit and earnings ratios" was only the mere start of this.  That was enough to prove to anyone that, not only didn't the Indonesian Imbecile know jack about the stock market, but that he had the mathematical sophistication of a retarded 8th grader.  But, that hasn't stopped The Precedent from lecturing anyone and everyone on economic and financial issues that are way, way over his head.  Not even his "reduce your premiums by 3000%" seemed to have any effect.  The Precedent doesn't seem to be afraid of being exposed as the retard that he is, because he constantly goes out and does it, proudly.

My view was that we have seen The Precedent get into the details of many things when he wants to - even though he never knows what he's doing.  The fact that he is always hands off on the legislation is a distinct signal, for me.

-->That doesn't mean he is not driven to some degree by the idea that socialism is better than what we have now.

I'm sure he thinks this.  I just think he doesn't care about it.

-->I really think this is his main driver domestically, but I see some merit to your revenge theory in his international dealings.

Posted by: nine coconuts at July 28, 2010 06:43 PM (DHNp4)

Both of our views have merit - speaking domestically.  I can easily understand the view that he is driven, domestically, by a desire to move America to socialism.  There is much proof for that hypothesis.  The third world revenge theory, for his domestic policy, just seems to make more sense to me.  I became convinced of this back during the campaign and have not seen anything since that has served to even make me waver in it - though it occurs to me that he might decide that he likes the power he now has and could be moved in his basic goals from suicide bomber destruction to socialism/totalitarianism.  I don't think so, but that is always a possibility.

104

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

105 I think he wants to transform America along broad socialist lines, and he doesn't really care about the details.

Well, he cares about one detail: holding onto power (and passing it on to his political cabal when he's done with it). 

I think the personal hangups this dude has from having been abandoned by his black father and raised by "typical white people" are more important factors in what drives this guy than any political philosophy he has.  Yeah, he's a socialist, but I don't think he's the intellectual socialist that some of the progressives are.  His fixation on "fairness" has to do with his "unfair" childhood and family life more than they have to do with the intellectual arguments underpinning socialism.  

106 #104

No Jews?

107 Personally, I would be happier if BP was taken-over by another company with a better safety record, but there's a chance they may actually improve safety now that they're down-sizing and focusing on exploration & production. Definitely a long-shot, but it could happen.

However, I'd be more hopeful if they'd retract the party-line of blaming their partners in the joint venture. I'm rather surprised people are more concerned about the tax write-off than BP's constant bashing of companies like Anadarko, which they repeated yesterday. While it's somewhat understandable (from a liability standpoint), the buck stops with them.

108

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

The opening of one Wal Mart is enough to affect a 3 point drop in the state unemployment rate.

109

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

umm...because of wood chipper sales?

110 Is it any wonder that BP agreed to the deal so quickly?  And if Obama does anything to complain about it he will look like a complete fool. 

111 The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

When the third smallest state (650,000) is leading the country in job creation, the economy is in tough shape.

112

@107

I thought Transcontinental was responsible for rig operations? My understanding is that BP is the name, but they had really little to do with the operation?

113 80 And yet you all keep defending big business, complaining about government 'overregulation' as they continue doing things like this. Even as you complain about them screwing you over. Schizophrenia defined.

Posted by: JEA at July 28, 2010 06:32 PM (z/LZk) 

 

Nope. We defend the Free Market, which allows for big buisiness, but only those that survive on the merits of their product or service, not by crooked deals and greasing palms of the likes of Pelosi and Obama.

114

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

Selling smallpox blankets to innocent and noble Native American tribes!

Jazz Hands! Boo!

115 11 is the THREADWINNER!

116

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

Bakken Shale.

117

@111

They aren't leading in job creation they have always been at full employment. (5% or less is considered full employment) All new employment is based on seasonal farm work, so everybody hired in March is Fired in Novemeber.

 

 

118 And 19 has it right. Now I will read the rest of the comments.

119 You may be right but I just don't ascribe such evil motives to him.  I guess that makes me a squish. 

Posted by: chemjeff at July 28, 2010 06:47 PM (Pm5H

Heh, heh.

One is not a squish on this issue until he is found, like O'Reilly, bleating about how "The Precedent is just trying to do the best for America".

You're safe.  And going with the view that he's trying to make the US a socialist superstate is close enough, anyway, especially as that is clearly what all of the useful idiots around him are shooting for.

120 Has anyone found my nuts yet?

121 Yeah, he's a socialist, but I don't think he's the intellectual socialist that some of the progressives are.  His fixation on "fairness" has to do with his "unfair" childhood and family life more than they have to do with the intellectual arguments underpinning socialism. 

Funny you put it that way - to be honest I think this type of irrational, childhood-grudge progressivism is the majority view, because let's face it, who wasn't treated "unfairly" as a kid?  I have come across so many liberals who swear up and down that they used to be conservatives, but... their conservative father was a wife-beater.  Or their conservative mother was a drunken lout.   Or their conservative grandfather was a racist.  Their efforts to "make life fair" are, in essence, a way to try to undo the unfairness in their past.

122 And the View, who's going to watch it, the stay at home parent, christ he is preaching to his choir.

Mama Grizzlies. Sarah Palin is smarter than you think.

123 112 @107 I thought Transcontinental was responsible for rig operations? My understanding is that BP is the name, but they had really little to do with the operation?

Transocean operated the rig, & many other companies were involved; but BP was the one calling-the-shots & making the ultimate decisions. In hindsight, I think quite a number of people wish they hadn't made the decisions they did, but it's too late now. For want of a nail...

124 Well, Transocean IS partly responsible.  And BP can blame them all they want, but in the court of public opinion, it won't matter.

125 They aren't leading in job creation they have always been at full employment. (5% or less is considered full employment) All new employment is based on seasonal farm work, so everybody hired in March is Fired in Novemeber.

There was a headline on Drudge earlier this week, stating that North Dakota & Alaska lead the country in job creation.

Most agriculture in North Dakota does not require a lot of labor and can be managed by a family size operation. Grain crops and sunflowers don't need daily attention. One possible exception is potatoes, but irrigation is mostly automated.

126 chemjeff: I've long suspected a lot of progressivism is essentially an "I'll show my parents" kind of thing.  And Barry is of course the king of daddy issues.

127 124 Well, Transocean IS partly responsible.  And BP can blame them all they want, but in the court of public opinion, it won't matter.

...& so is another small company, it appears, but it won't matter. The buck stops with the people who give the orders & make the decisions.

_{/Link above is The WSJ, & it also deals with the 2 managers being investigated.} 

128 I fully expect to hear a variety of congressmen/women/creatures (such as Maxine Waters) treating this in precisely the same way as they did the AIG bonuses.  They'll simply pass an extra tax on BP, and make lots of threats about nationalizing the company, or at least its US assets.  It would be very Stalinist/Chavezist, which is precisely why they'll do it.

129 O/T: Is it just me, or does this "keys to the Internet" thing sound too SciFi-ish?

130 One too many preciselies, but you get my point, I trust.

131 Most agriculture in North Dakota does not require a lot of labor and can be managed by a family size operation.

Is that because it's mostly under snow?

132 Is that because it's mostly under snow?

So I hear. My mother had to walk ten miles to school, uphill both ways, through blizzards under a burning sun.

133 120 Has anyone found my nuts yet?
Posted by: Andrew Cohen at July 28, 2010 07:10 PM (554T5)

No, honey, but you wouldn't believe the pair I'm handling right now.

134 Let's get John Kerry on this.  He'll know what to do.

135 And you guys thought I had issues. 

136 Most agriculture in North Dakota does not require a lot of labor and can be managed by a family size operation.

Is that because it's mostly under snow?



Are we gonna have to sic our lawyers on you?

137 The narcistic one is heading to the View, rather than attending the 100th Anniverary of the Boy Scouts.  Bastard.  me before thee.

It was a scheduling conflict, you see..... the fundraisers were scheduled a long time ago....  Never mind that this Boy Scout Jamboree was scheduled well before he was elected.   No, it's a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to the Scouts because of their policy on Gays.

138 can't he be both?

His dad sure was.

139 No, it's a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to the Scouts because of their policy on Gays.

Posted by: Ombudsman at July 28, 2010 07:28 PM (y4B2y)

Scouts aren't cool. Not only that, but hanging out with them makes him gayer by association than he wants to let on. So, he goes on a chick show.

140

It hasn't occurred to the current retards in the JUG EARS admin, that companies NOT MAKING PROFITS don't pay taxes.

How fucking simple is that???

Oh dear.  Maybe!! Maybe Opie is a Marxist????

141 He is too immature and egocentric to have a world view where it is important to tell the truth as a statement of character or as a defense against future trouble.

Character is seldom rewarded by pedophiles and communists. I sure miss the days when character was king.

142 140 Windfall profits tax.

143 Their efforts to "make life fair" are, in essence, a way to try to undo the unfairness in their past.

Posted by: chemjeff at July 28, 2010 07:11 PM (Pm5H

I think part of his psychosis is trying to please the socialist father that rejected him.  I think he's trying to prove to his dead father (I know...I didn't say this was logical thinking)...that he is worthy of him by being a good socialist.  And wrapped up in that is also a 'F up, dad', look what I accomplished and you didn't.'

144 Maybe Opie is a Marxist????

Commie is as commie does, Sir

145

Obama's mother was a whore and commie.

Obama's Daddy was a drunk, a bigomist, Muslim and a Commie.

Obama's Step Daddy was a Muslim and  a commie.

Obama's 3 Commie Muslim parents all had dumped his jug ears by the time he was 10.

His Commie grandparents hooked up Opie with a COMMIE RAPIST.   Frank Marshall Davis.

Where did Opie get his character from????

Answer.  He has no character, nor does his ugly wife.

 

 

 

146 139  It ain't workin' -- the chicks on that show are more manly than he is.

147

I believe WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPI was indeed a BOY SCOUT himself.

 

148 Did the Internet stop?

149 It ain't workin' -- the chicks on that show are more manly than he is.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 28, 2010 07:45 PM

That's why they spend a good deal of time sitting around a table and not a couch.  The viewers do NOT want to see these broads hairy nutsacks.

150 The viewers do NOT want to see these broads hairy nutsacks.

Maybe with the right promoter...

151

No, honey, but you wouldn't believe the pair I'm handling right now.

Posted by: Andrew Cohen's Honeymooning Ex-Girlfriend at July 28, 2010 07:24 PM (FHtH2)

Don't you know better than to talk with your mouth full, Madam?

152 Is it unusual for businesses to write off expenses involved in environmental cleanup? I mean is this some loophole for BP or just standard tax law?

153 Obama's mother was a whore and commie.



To be fair, the descriptive term "whore" probably doesn't apply. There's no real evidence that she spread her legs for money.

However, the term "slutty hosemonster who gave it up for anyone wearing a black beret" would certainly apply.

154 116

The only booming state in the entire nation is North Dakota.

Why the hell do you think that is?

Bakken Shale.

Posted by: marie at July 28, 2010 07:08 PM (GuTKr)

Nad the huge growing oil production.

You win the autographed moron coffee mug!

155 Don't you know better than to talk with your mouth full, Madam?

You just hush your mouth!  She's a nice girl who would NEVER do anything like that and I should know because she never did anything like that to me... uh... hey, waaaaaaaaait a minute...

156 However, the term "slutty hosemonster who gave it up for anyone wearing a black beret" would certainly apply.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 28, 2010 07:58 PM

 

I blame her parents.  What the fuck were they thinking when they named their little girl 'Stanley'?  Maybe would have been a bit funny if she was a horse or a dog.

157

@145,

Gus,

Yep and Yep!

Opie is Marxist, and when the American people wake up from their slumber and realize how bad the situation really is, it is going to be too late...by design!

Opie really exposed himself in the Health Care Debate.

158 Andrew Cohen needs to pick up his copy of "Moldava Brides" at the front desk.

159 146 139  It ain't workin' -- the chicks on that show are more manly than he is.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 28, 2010 07:45 PM (5/yRG)

Think about it,  they went from Rosie, who looked like the rumpled photo of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to Whoopi who now looks barely human.

The View indeed!

160 Can I use 14 and 1/2 minutes of that time to ruthlessly beat Behar and Whoopi. The other 30 seconds, debating how bad Matt Hassleback will beat me if I make a pass at his wife.

That would be Tim Hasselbeck.

161

@159

When is the day going to come when Barbara Walters will never show her face or speak in public again?

As far as I'm concerned it time to take her and Jane Fonda out to pasture!

162 Most agriculture in North Dakota does not require a lot of labor and can be managed by a family size operation. Grain crops and sunflowers don't need daily attention. One possible exception is potatoes, but irrigation is mostly automated.

Posted by: fluffy at July 28, 2010 07:17 PM (SwkdU)

Fluffy.

They're in the biggest oil boom in decades. Lease bonuses in the the billions, all to people in the western part of the state. There are over 140 huge drilling rigs getting after it. Wages are soaring and you can't get a hotel room or even a spare bedroom to rent up there.

The famremers in several counties will never have to grow another acre of wheat again.

163 Why do people watch The View, anyway? Oprah is actually far more sensible than those women are. Oh, wait, forgot that sensible & logical is 'bad' in the eyes of some of my fellow women.

164

@162,

I think the main thing they grow up there is Soy Bean!

165

Stanley.   Don't they make tools???

Yeah, whore is probably a bit strong for Stanley Ann. 

She's more like a door knob.   Everyone gets their turn.

 

166 152 Is it unusual for businesses to write off expenses involved in environmental cleanup? I mean is this some loophole for BP or just standard tax law?

It's legal, because US law allows that. Other corporations do the same thing.

167 Lotta woman on woman hostility on AOSHQ today.Somebody get some tubs of Jello or mud here stat!

168 Imagine if Jugears had the attention span of a housefly instead of a gnat....

169 I think the main thing they grow up there is Soy Bean!

Way too dry for soy beans.

170

I think the main thing they grow up there is Soy Bean!

Posted by: Jimi at July 28, 2010 08:06 PM (fqxV7)

They grow everything up there. You have never seen so many pheasant in your life during the winter in those frozen snowy wheat fields.

But who gives a shit when your two sections is getting leased for 5 million bucks, caswh on the barrlehead, and then they hit a 2500 barrel-of-oil-per-day well that you own 20% of?

171 I blame her parents.  What the fuck were they thinking when they named their little girl 'Stanley'?  Maybe would have been a bit funny if she was a horse or a dog.

Yeah, what a way to fuck up a kid's life before it begins.  Parents really need to consider the daily beatings their kid will absorb because of their "quirkiness"

172 fellow women

We have our best people taking this one apart right now.

173 170 At least we are using some of the rescources God gave us.

174

@169

Well all the Soy Bean is grown in the East Side near the Red River (not dry). And I think it is mainly grain in the Western Part of the State where the Oil Shale is. 

175 We should ban offshore drilling until we have exhausted all oil onshore.

176

@170

I orginally grew up in Western South Dakota, so yes, I am familar with the Pheasant hunting in that region.

It was past time me and the old man never missed.

 

177 172 fellow women

We have our best people taking this one apart right now.

Posted by: Cunning Linguists from the Other Day's "Words and Expressions" Epic Thread at July 28, 2010 08:11 PM (FHtH2)

Any recommendations?

178

@175

We Can't...the Environmenatlist won the propoganda war....they have sucessfully convinced Americans that we can actually get away from oil soon, and that Global Climate Change is Man-Made!

Be sure to punch your local Sierra Club member in the mouth the next time you run across one.

179

Stanley.   Don't they make tools???

Yeah, whore is probably a bit strong for Stanley Ann. 

She's more like a door knob.   Everyone gets their turn.

Heh.

Then again, I was just itchin' to use that "hosemonster" line, which was a cherished insult from my misspent youth.

180 Quick!  Tax the top 2%.

181 O/t but: has anyone noticed HR 5741?  What's the odds on them tacking it on an appropriations bill for troop spending?

182 Any recommendations?

None that won't get us slapped.

183 When the R-Word-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Mentioned-On-HA comes, the Sierra Club will be first up against the wall.

184

@181

Is H.R. 5741 the "Mandatory Civil Service" Bill?

185 Just saw this graph on FARK and had to borrow it...

http://tinyurl.com/2343n4b

186 Ombudsman,
He seems to take the scouts stance on gays rather personally no?

187 Yeah, what a way to fuck up a kid's life before it begins.  Parents really need to consider the daily beatings their kid will absorb because of their "quirkiness"

And another thing....Parents also need to understand that the kid will be stuck with that name all their life.  What may be cute for a two year old can be just plain embarrassing for an adult.  You can name a kid "Warren", but at least he'll grow into it.  "Bambi" or "Corky"  at age 40?  Instant credibility problem.    Remember Clinton Attorney General nominee Kimba Woods?  They said she had nanny problems, but I think they decided we couldn't have an AG named Kimba.

188 182 None that won't get us slapped.

Figures.

189 I just can't get outraged about this, as much as BP fucked up I'd still rather have them use the money then give it to our government. The amount of revenue the U.S. government already takes in is obscene it's just the money they spend is more obscene.
Still wanna repeatedly punch Andrew Cohan in the mouth though.

190

I'm guessing that this is unprecedented.  At least it was before they did it.  But now, since they already did it, it's precedented.

So - follow the logic here - if it is now precedent, we should all get to write our own tax policy.

Pretty much solves my economic crisis.

191 Paul Ryan: The Choice of 2 Futures

192 Is H.R. 5741 the "Mandatory Civil Service" Bill?

...introduced by none other than Charlie Rangel.  He sponsors legislation to revive the draft almost every Congress; not because he thinks it will strengthen the military, but for the social-engineering purposes of ensuring "the right people" are made to serve.  Anyone who challenges him on it is told they have to shut up because Rangel served in Korea.

The bills have always been DOA up to now, but these days who the hell knows.

193 At least we are using some of the rescources God gave us.

In kollij I took a theology class where we studied The Color Purple (no shit...I should have demanded a real theology class but I was 17 and dumb) and had to write an essay about the title quote from it: "I believe it pisses God off when you pass the color purple in a field and don't notice it." 

Using such moonbat logic, He's gotta be real pissed that he put hydrocarbons on the planet that can be used to make us comfortable and well-fed, and the jerks in charge are insisting everyone to go back to buffalo dung.

194

184 and exactly what I was thinking @192

 

And no more dirty talk -- it's getting me frustrated.

195 So BP has an accident.  Naturally Obama after completely fucking up the whole clean-up for months and despite his many rounds of golf.  THE UPSHOD is that OPIE gets $20,000,000,000.00 to spread around to dead beats?

196 What's the odds on them tacking it on an appropriations bill for troop spending?

What's the odds any military appropriations bill won't have a bunch of objectionable unrelated shit tacked onto it?

197

I am shocked, absolutely shocked that a big corporation would try to write off a big loss like this. It's totally unprecedented.

What a bunch of Gomer Pyles,

198

I know Paul Ryan.     He isn't incompetent, he isn't a Marxist, he wasn't raised by a whore and a pair of Commie Muzztards, he wasn't abandoned and he didn't go to College on AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

 

Quite a contrast.  But then again, I'm A Conservative and obviously a RACIST.

199 Ombudsman,
He seems to take the scouts stance on gays rather personally no?

It just really pisses me off.   As a former Eagle Scout, I appreciate the benefits of Scouting.  (Although they've screwed up the program in an attempt to be "contemporary". Instead of giving kids something unique, it's now just more of the same.  Scouting thrived when it was almost an adolescent version of the military, with an emphasis on discipline, advancement, and the outdoors.  Now, they have merit badges on video games, and nobody knows how to tie a taught-line hitch or sheepshank.)   But I digress.

200 O/T:  Filed under the Unimportant & Useless Indulgence Category

Our FLOTUS sure has evolved.  She was some kinda ugly before her coronation. Yeah, catty...but I've had a bad day.

201 I'm still not seeing what BP did wrong in this instance, & don't see much of a connection between this & the escrow fund. As referenced in the post, it would be 'fun' to believe, in-a-sense, but there are legitimate things they've done wrong that could be used against them.

_{/Though they've also done things that are right.}  

202

Ai! Carumba!

 You let zee banksters rob you in this way too, no? I move my whole village here sooooon!

203 Eastern North Dakota and Western Minnesota also also grow a mighty fine Potato.  Frito Lay loads rail car after rail car of them to make their mighty fine salty snacks.

204 Our FLOTUS sure has evolved.  She was some kinda ugly before her coronation.

I agree.  Now she's just downright fucking hideous.

205

193 Buffalo dung would create more hydrocarbons -- better to just shiver in the cold...or go on vacations to Spain, heard it's warm there.

206 196  Then I suspect this is pretty much a foregone conclusion!

207 204 I agree.  Now she's just downright fucking hideous.

Though Bambi manages to almost look personable in that pic. Almost.

208 She was some kinda ugly before her coronation.

She still is.

Would love to read some minds in that one.

209 We have our best people taking this one apart right now.

Posted by: Cunning Linguists from the Other Day's "Words and Expressions" Epic Thread at July 28, 2010 08:11 PM (FHtH2)
.

Gator wasnt here during that to help me........  i know he would have put some good ones in there............

210 Posted by: Ombudsman at July 28, 2010 08:19 PM (y4B2y)



Yeah. It's not as if they couldn't just name the kid Newton, "but we call him Newt", or whatever stupid nickname they thought would be cute at the time.

211 208 She still is.

Would love to read some minds in that one.

They somehow don't look very impressed. Wonder why?

/

212 Eastern North Dakota and Western Minnesota also also grow a mighty fine Potato. Frito Lay loads rail car after rail car of them to make their mighty fine salty snacks.

Ore-Ida buys their share, also. They plant a few in the central part of the state, too.

213 Would love to read some minds in that one.

Working on it.  For your own good, of course.

214

Why the ORIOLES??  Dear God they don't need that.  Any woman whose ASS is twice as wide as her chest and has those teeth, needs neutering.

215 Meh, it's close enough for government work.

216 Frito Lay loads rail car after rail car of them to make their mighty fine salty snacks.

Not if I can help it.

217 Not if I can help it.

That's it! We're revolting!

218 You just KNOW that Bubba would have been a blast at a backyard Bar-B-Que.  Odumbo McTarballs.... not so much. 

219 Why the ORIOLES??



Bow-chick-a.....


Oh, I thought you said Areolas.

Nevermind.

220 Not if I can help it.

That's it! We're revolting!

Posted by: peasants (and straight men) at July 28, 2010 08:41 PM (SwkdU)

Not nearly so much as she is....

221 Bow-chick-a.....


Oh, I thought you said Areolas.

Nevermind.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 28, 2010 08:42 PM

 

Damn you.  I cannot un-read that!

222 Gee Whiz,

I really can't understand why it's important for the CEO of the U. S. to have a clue about business,

can you?

223 204 Our FLOTUS sure has evolved.  She was some kinda ugly before her coronation.

I agree.  Now she's just downright fucking hideous.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 28, 2010 08:33 PM (FHtH2)

Who's the shithead standing next to her?

224

I think Big Backyard Obama was born without areolas.

I think all the building materials were used up in the backyard.

225 Speaking of ugly, check out some of The Hill's 50 Most Beautiful People.

http://tinyurl.com/29hlqkj

Someone doesn't know what beautiful means.

226 Yeah, we cover about two-thirds of the total surface area per boob.

227 This illustrates one of the fundamental intellectual challenges that government faces when they bash "big business".....they're a 50% partner.

228 Bubbas backyard bbq & bong emporium

229

Watching the new Willie Wonka with Johnny Depp.  I have the distinct feeling that a requirement for watching was to hit the Chronic first.

230 Hey! Look at that!

Another stirring tribute to my daring masculinity.

231 175 We should ban offshore drilling until we have exhausted all oil onshore.

Posted by: Truman North at July 28, 2010 08:13 PM (3h3kv)

Not a good idea, at all.

232 Damn you.  I cannot un-read that!



Heh. When it comes to chaos, Kratos takes a back seat!


_{*runs and hides before the Blade of Olympus is unsheathed*}

233 225....

Methinks you are correct in your assessment.

Who the hell was on that judges panel?

234 Speaking of ugly, check out some of The Hill's 50 Most Beautiful People.

Something tells me Amit Bagga's gonna have some "help" from Bawney Frank.  Just a hunch....

235 'News' that every Moron should read:

link

236 Politics is show business for ugly child molesters and traitors

237 We should ban offshore drilling until we have exhausted all oil onshore.

Posted by: Truman North at July 28, 2010 08:13 PM (3h3kv)

Not a good idea, at all.

Posted by: TexasJew

...Until we exhaust middle east oil.

238

Republican Governors' Association ad.

http://tinyurl.com/28gn7ec

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240

dangit Ace.........  Sockeye Salmon on Sale...... fresh.  i love that banner......

say it 3 times fast.....

241 Cheese and beer...breakfast of champions.

242 Slow night night on the Interwebs. Where is everybody?

243 Will beercheese become the new moron balldippin' substrate?

244 We should ban offshore drilling until we have exhausted all oil onshore.

Let's just ban drilling period and learn to power stuff with good old-fashioned dirt.

Maybe some pasta.

245 Twiggs Appoved

246 Dirt pasta.  There's not enough biodiesel to harvest food AND ethanol...

247 Slow night night on the Interwebs. Where is everybody?

North Dakota.  They heard there was drilling going on up there.

248 242 Slow night night on the Interwebs. Where is everybody?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 28, 2010 09:07 PM (HQSQk)

dont ask me.......... i been hitting reload to read the banners.

looks like we have fresh Sockeye Salmon on Sale somewhere.............

249 240....

I was tickled to see Publix advertising here. They are Florida born and raised.

In fact, I'm going to go there this weekend to pick up some of that sockeye salmon.

250 damn sock!

251 Its time for Comrade Zero to introduce the multi-billion dollar National Perpetual Motion Initiative.  Cause that perpetual motion is the greenest form of energy there is.

252

Too bad Spencer Ackerman wasn't on the rig floor when the well blew out.

He could have punched the gas into submission with his mighty man-fists and hurt it, hurt it real bad...

253 we have Publix in At.......  not sure about the Sockeye Salmon Sale here tho................

254 Dirt pasta.  There's not enough biodiesel to harvest food AND ethanol...

Heather, you act as if there are some sort of physical laws at work or something.

Dirt--it was good enough for the Dark Ages and it is good enough for us.

255 248 242 Slow night night on the Interwebs. Where is everybody?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 28, 2010 09:07 PM (HQSQk)

All the morons are lining up to screw Andrew Cohen's old girlfiriend.

256 Slow night night on the Interwebs. Where is everybody?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 28, 2010 09:07 PM

Hey!  Mr. Y-not and I are waiting for the first set of prospective buyers to come by and view the house.  The MLS listing went up last night and by mid-morning we had a nibble.  Woot-woot!

Is this an open thread?

257

Posted by: Y-not at July 28, 2010 09:20 PM (O627A)

You said that before about the MLS. What is that?

258

Too bad Spencer Ackerman wasn't on the rig floor when the well blew out.

He could have punched the gas into submission with his mighty man-fists and hurt it, hurt it real bad...

Later he could but on a summer dress and meet up with Andrew Cohen at the fern bar for some Cosmopolitans and regale in their manhood.

259 Multiple Listing Service, the repository for properties up for sale on the intertubes.  Places like Realtor.com access the MLS so the second your agent puts your property into the listing, regular folks can find it. 

260 Is this an open thread?

It is now.

261 Is this an open thread?

Posted by: Y-not at July 28, 2010 09:20 PM (O627A)

hell no.......  this is a Sockeye Salmon Sale @ Publix thread............. just kidding Y.... goodluck on the house......

262 Has anybody found my nuts yet?

263

@141: "I sure miss the days when character was king."

When was that, exactly?  Character is one of those things often honored in theory, but not so often in real life.  It's not that it never counts, it just never counts all that much.

264 Is it a good time to be selling? There are 14 billion houses out there.

265 Boy, HQ has really been loading wonkily for me lately. 

I gotta' try that AdBlock thing, I guess. 

Did anyone see this:  Rihanna to star in Battleship, the movie. 

266 I've been reading The Age of Empire: 1875-1914 for this class of mine. Good thing the prof warned me beforehand that the author's a Marxist. Lots of bashing of the bourgeoisie & applause at their demise. However, Hobswawm's a great writer, & he understands the history of that age. Food-for-thought...

267 Sigh. I've been booked for next week on The View.

268 263 @141: "I sure miss the days when character was king."

When was that, exactly?  Character is one of those things often honored in theory, but not so often in real life.  It's not that it never counts, it just never counts all that much.

Isn't that a quote from a Peggy Noonan book about Ronald Reagan, When Character Was King?

269 is this thing broken?

270 Rihanna to star in Battleship, the movie.

Multiple Oscars written all over that.

271 264 Is it a good time to be selling? There are 14 billion houses out there

We have to.  Mr. Y-not is changing jobs.  We're moving to Utah. 

Where ya' been, son?!  ;-) 

In our neighborhood there are not many properties for sale, especially not ones that are move-in ready.  August is supposed to be a good time around here to sell (not that we really had much choice because of the job).  We're not going to make money off of this house, but we are not underwater on the mortgage and it's worth it to get out of California. 

272 when character was king

back when peggy noonan was sane?

273 Did anyone see this:  Rihanna to star in Battleship, the movie. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 28, 2010 09:26 PM (O627A)

And people say that Hollywood has run out of ideas!

HA!

BTW, I heard The A-Team RAWKS. And by RAWKS I mean it stinks worse than a sack of shweaty scrotums

274 Multiple Oscars written all over that.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 28, 2010 09:30 PM (GZitp)

I think they're saving that up for the Tron remake.

275 269 is this thing broken?

Yes, yes it is.

276 Are there any North Dakota oil field jobs for electronic technicians, and what would they pay?

277 Sure, my dad molested me, but I was touched by his gesture.

278 Loads then locks everything up for five seconds? AoSHQ has been doing that the last couple days for me.

279 Good thing the prof warned me beforehand that the author's a Marxist. Lots of bashing of the bourgeoisie & applause at their demise.

I seem to have missed the part where the bourgeoisie met their demise.  On the other hand, most of the former colonies are still effed up.  So the author has that going for him.

280 Loads then locks everything up for five seconds?

You can last five seconds?!

281 is this thing broken?

I blame it on the moms in the ads who invent stuff and make $8K a week.

282 BTW, I heard The A-Team RAWKS. And by RAWKS I mean it stinks worse than a sack of shweaty scrotums

Eh.  It's brain candy.  They can't all be The Godfather, you know.

283

@225: "Speaking of ugly, check out some of The Hill's 50 Most Beautiful People.

http://tinyurl.com/29hlqkj

Someone doesn't know what beautiful means."

Not necessarily.  Those might actually *be* the 50 most beautiful people on the Hill.  DC is Hollywood for ugly people, yanno.

 

284

 when character was king

and the King was a character. Banging teenagers, eating peanut butter and banana sammiches, and making bad Hawaiian movies.

285 You can last five seconds?!

One word, cheesebeer.

286 That's just great.  BP customers get shafted by higher prices, and the 39% that pay taxes get shafted for the other 10 billion.

Gotta love the child king of Amerikkka.  Ficking jug-eared racist assclown.

287 276 Are there any North Dakota oil field jobs for electronic technicians, and what would they pay?

Posted by: Tweaker at July 28, 2010 09:31 PM (dQdrY)

I dunno - try Monster and a couple of other sites. I see that there are some listed.

288 278 Loads then locks everything up for five seconds?

Yep, same here... except it locks indefinitely for me.  It shows the last comment and the comment box, but I can't type anything.  Very frustrating.

289 I've been reading The Age of Empire: 1875-1914 for this class of mine. Good thing the prof warned me beforehand that the author's a Marxist.

Sigh.  A Marxist historian.  How unusual.  Yet another tenured boob with a picture of Lenin in his office, like Zinn, Foner, et. al.   We just need to wait them out.  Only problem, conservatives don't go into non-scientific academia, so their replacements will be of a similar ilk.

290 BP is screwed.

I bought the Gulf of Mexico from a dude in Florida many years ago.

The deed's around here someplace.

291 And winner of the award in the "No Shit" category goes to....

292 Hobswawm's a great writer, & he understands the history of that age. Food-for-thought...

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 28, 2010 09:27 PM (HQSQk)

i read my phone bill, AoSHQ,  and the Sockeye Salmon on Sale banner today.......... does that count?

293 I think I'm going to have to wait for the full onslaught of global warming to entertain any North Dakota-based employment.

294 Karl Marx was a puss-aah.  When was the last time he killed a man with his bare hands?

295 288...

That was happening constantly when I had that friggin pop-up/audio adware. It hasn't done it once since I cleaned it out with Adaware.

Have you been getting those audio pop-ups?

296 Not necessarily.  Those might actually *be* the 50 most beautiful people on the Hill.

And somewhere the soul of Charlie Wilson weeps.

297 I bought the Gulf of Mexico from a dude in Florida many years ago.

I bought Mars from some guy at a Braves game in 1988.

Unfortunately, a crazy ex ate the deed.

298 And somewhere the soul of Charlie Wilson weeps.

BS--Charlie is snorting Cheez-Its off Farrah's hiney in the afterlife while chugging a beer.

299 back when peggy noonan was sane?

Yeah, she's gone a little batshit lately, but damn, the woman can still write.  I'll read some of her recent columns and completely disagree, but wish I could turn a phrase like that

300 293...

Do you remember a few years ago when ND was lobbying to have their name changed from North Dakota to just Dakota? Their argument was that South Dakota had a considerably biggest tourist industry than they and argued that it was the negative connotation derived from "north" that was to blame.

uh huh.

301 279 I seem to have missed the part where the bourgeoisie met their demise.  On the other hand, most of the former colonies are still effed up.  So the author has that going for him.

He means compared to the period prior, when the poor 'had no rights' & before colonies 'found their voice'. Apparently, the age of empire is when the poor found their voice (among other things). One of the key chapters is "Workers of the World", with another entitled "Who's Who or the Uncertainties of the Bourgeoisie".

302 Karl Marx was a puss-aah.  When was the last time he killed a man with his bare hands?

Not by his own hand, but he is responsible for the deaths of 100 million and counting, so he;s got that going for him, which is good

303

Their argument was that South Dakota had a considerably biggest tourist industry than they and argued that it was the negative connotation derived from "north" that was to blame.

Damn right. I like my women strong, my neighbors scarce, and my Dakota Southern.

304 Apparently, the age of empire is when the poor found their voice (among other things).

The age of empire coincided with massive wealth creation that led to a "giving a flying rip" about the poor.  The commies always get the causality wrong.

And let's discuss the "voice of the poor" in present-day Sub-Saharan Africa.  Yes, I left academia for a reason.

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Lowball.  You doing duty at the OMB, too, Ombudsman?

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The ones who do are ostracized & have to teach at smaller, more conservative universities if they don't want to hear commie rants. I'll say this for the author, though-- at least he's upfront & honest about who he is, instead of trying to hide it. Means there are fewer subtle messages hidden in the text. He appears to be an "all-or-nothing" kind of guy. 

312 Damn right. I like my women strong, my neighbors scarce, and my Dakota Southern.


I like my beer cold ... my TV loud ... and my homosexuals flaming.

313

@268: "Isn't that a quote from a Peggy Noonan book about Ronald Reagan, When Character Was King?"

And if Reagan had been banging them two at a time, JFK style, who would have cared? The Left and the old line GOP hated him anyway.  The rest of the folks? They might have been a little put off, but they probably wouldn't have cared that much.

314 she was a Pirates fan.........

315

the 91 Braves season is why my ex is my exxxxxxxxxxxx...............

Lonnie Smith getting deked rounding second on the double....don't get me started. Bad memory, but what a wonderful time to be a Braves fan.

316 304 The age of empire coincided with massive wealth creation that led to a "giving a flying rip" about the poor.  The commies always get the causality wrong.

Yes, but you know how much they love to gloss-over the records of communist leaders. They either ascribe the ideas to someone else, or state that the vision was not yet reached.

And let's discuss the "voice of the poor" in present-day Sub-Saharan Africa.  Yes, I left academia for a reason.

Yet they'd have no issue with turning America into such a nation, or so it appears.

317

she was a Pirates fan.........

I suppose you reminded her everyday that the steroided arrogant fucknut couldn't throw out Sid Bream??? 

Nice. What a play. FRANCISCO CABRERA, BABY!!!!!!!!!!

318

@274: "I think they're saving that up for the Tron remake"

Don't forget the movies that are coming out based on Monopoly and Candyland.  Kirk Lazarus needs to remind Hollywood not to go full retard.

319 Lonnie Smith getting deked rounding second on the double....don't get me started. Bad memory, but what a wonderful time to be a Braves fan.

Not.  Looking.  At.  The.  Third.  Base.  Coach.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

That's the Braves Bill Buckner moment.

320 but dangit.......... she could suck the chrome offa bumper hitch...... and i kinda miss her....

321 That's the Braves Bill Buckner moment.

Happy for Puckett, Morris. Hrbek can suck a dick like Racefan's wife for throwing little Ronnie Gant around.

322

@289: "conservatives don't go into non-scientific academia, so their replacements will be of a similar ilk."

Victor Davis Hanson just called to say "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?"

"We just need to wait them out."

That was what Eleazar ben Ya'ir told the Sicarii about the Romans at Masada, right?

323 319 Lonnie Smith getting deked rounding second on the double....don't get me started. Bad memory, but what a wonderful time to be a Braves fan.

Not.  Looking.  At.  The.  Third.  Base.  Coach.

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

That's the Braves Bill Buckner moment.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 28, 2010 09:52 PM (NvFZs) .

remember the Sunday night game that ended at 1:30 in the morning? Little RF and i were there.......... we got home at 4 that morning and he had tobe at school at 8.......... he didnt make it......

324

but what a wonderful time to be a Braves fan.

after so many years............  yes it was.........

325

It was also a great time to watch the bandwagon fans get their hopes crushed every October.  Kind of pathetic, really - all of those "lifelong" Braves fans who couldn't name a single player (ever) other than Dale Murphy. 

I did feel sorry for the people who actually were lifelong fans, though.

326 I did feel sorry for the people who actually were lifelong fans, though.

I can recite the batting order from 1971 when I went to my first game.  When the bullpen was manned by giants like Roric Harrison.

Yes, that last was sarc. 

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That implies that the money BELONGED to the U.S. to begin with and isn't that what capitalism is about; the State doesn't own the profits?

It means that the U.S. won't have AS MUCH money to spend as it would have before the write off but BP is just obeying the tax laws.

Let's stop using the words and the thinking of socialist's/marxist's, okay?

The State doesn't have a right to anyone's money and it's not taking money from the State by not giving it what it's not allowed to take.

This is like a reporter/reporterette saying that 'the Government has spent X amount of money on this or that program'. No, the Government has spent X amount of YOUR money on that program.

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