Woman Sues Airline For Not Waking Her Up When Plane Landed

I meant to post on this yesterday and now it's making national news.

A Michigan woman who fell asleep on a United Express flight to Philadelphia says she woke up and was shocked to find she was alone on the plane.

Ginger McGuire said no one had awakened her when the plane landed more than three hours earlier. She said she paced the aisle for about 15 minutes early Tuesday until the locked door opened and police demanded identification.

"Waking up to an empty airplane and not being able to get out - it was very horrifying," McGuire, 36, told reporters Thursday as her lawyer announced a lawsuit.

...McGuire's attorney, Geoffrey Feiger, said his law firm filed a lawsuit against United and Trans States, alleging negligence, false imprisonment and distress. McGuire lives in Ferndale, a Detroit suburb.

"For a crew to leave her there and lock her is beyond a gross abuse," Fieger said.

Feiger btw is the pimple on the butt of humanity that use to represent Jack "Dr. Death" Kervorkian.

It's an outrage that almost a year and half into Obama's term as President adults are still be subjected to the horror of having to take responsibility for waking up. When will America catch up to the rest of the civilized world and institute Comprehensive Alarm Clock Reform legislation?

McGuire was just on FNC with Jane Skinner and Skinner made her look like a fool. She had no answer to why it wasn't her responsibility to get her lazy ass off the plane or even what was in the suit in terms of damages being asked for.

If anyone sees the video of this, let me know, it was cringe inducing but oh such an enjoyable take down of this fool.

If the airline's attorneys were watching they must have been laughing their asses off at the thought of getting this woman on the stand.

On a somewhat more serious note, for security reasons cabin crews really shouldn't let people alone in planes like that.


"1sttofight " found the video.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:56 PM



Comments

1 Dumb all around. Dumb on the part of the flight crew, dumb on the part of the airline, who should be counting how many people come off the plane, and dumb on the part of the woman. Dumb.

Posted by: Truman North at May 28, 2010 12:57 PM (e8YaH)

2

Let me be the first to say that this lawyer gives all the rest a bad reputation

15 minutes? pfft

I crap for longer than that.

Posted by: s'moron at May 28, 2010 12:58 PM (UaxA0)

3 I agree. I don't see what the "damage" was.

However, Mr. Y-not, who is usually a sensible person, did think she had a case, so I guess there may be enough folks out there to make a favorable jury.

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 12:59 PM (Kn9r7)

4 The airline behaved stupidly. I'm sure this lovely woman voted for me.

Posted by: King Barry on Vacay at May 28, 2010 01:00 PM (UOM48)

5 Sestak's statement coming out

Posted by: beedubya at May 28, 2010 01:01 PM (AnTyA)

6 If I ever fall asleep on a plane and wake up 3 hours later, unable to get out, I'm taking a huge dump on every seat on the plane. That's my lawsuit.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 28, 2010 01:01 PM (IhQuA)

7 This case should be settled - with a $100 voucher. It does make you wonder how frickin stupid the crew and (especially) the cleaning crew are though.

Posted by: buzz at May 28, 2010 01:01 PM (kwhut)

8 Sounds frivolous to me. What would I do for three hours of uninterrupted sleep? Probably wouldn't involve airline tickets.

Posted by: sTevo at May 28, 2010 01:01 PM (UQzy0)

9 The damages ought to be taken care of with one roundtrip ticket to anywhere, which is what you usually get when an airline inconveniences you. This is no worse than getting bumped from a flight for a few hours.

Posted by: Truman North at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (e8YaH)

10 We did that to my brother in law in a movie theatre once - last show of the night. After everyone left and all the lights were on, we hid and threw raisins at his head until he finally woke up and tried to figure out where he was.
It was funny.

Posted by: TomServo at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (T1boi)

11 How many Millions of dollars of Horror are we talking about here??

Posted by: Willie 'Neck Brace' Scab-Attnty at Law at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (azgo2)

12 Recall that earlier this year a prof travelling from London to YVR slept on the plane (it was an AC flight) until a maintenance guy woke him up --in the hangar hours later!

At least, though, the prof A: laughed it off, and B: was travelling a long distance so his deep sleep was understandable.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (Mmw0q)

13 I think this is ridiculous. I sleep on planes and never sleep through people getting up and leaving. I thought the crews checked the plane for left carry on luggage, or perhaps PEOPLE. I was surprised that this happened. I don't know that she should get a significant award but I'm sure there has to be some way the airline could make this up to her. This is just stupid, honestly.

Posted by: Dan M at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (iwg7u)

14 How do you sleep through landing?! and is she seriously trying to claim that nobody smacked her upside the head with carry-on luggage while they were getting off the plane?

Was she drugged to have slept through all that?

Posted by: AngelEm, misanthrope at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (Aq93A)

15 The system worked! Janet

Posted by: Buffalobob at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (zmgty)

16 Wonder how much she had to drink? I've never been able to really sleep on a plane, no matter how tired I was.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 28, 2010 01:03 PM (UOM48)

17 Feiger btw is the pimple on the butt of humanity that use to represent Jack "Dr. Death" Kervorkian.
Didn't that jizzmop run for governor also? Between him and that whore Granholm, how does Meeechigan manage to exist?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2010 01:04 PM (5qjjt)

18 Counter sue and charge the bitch with trespassing.

Bet me she didn't hide in the shitter or something and the whole thing is a set up.

Posted by: Portrnoy at May 28, 2010 01:06 PM (azgo2)

19 We did that to a guy the kept falling asleep in class in HS. We all left real quiet, the next class came in real quiet, he woke up to see no familiar faces and freaked.

Posted by: CUS at May 28, 2010 01:07 PM (wOGfT)

20 Flakes on a Plane

Posted by: Roadking with 2 1/2 days of purposeful stubble at May 28, 2010 01:09 PM (PfikK)

21 Let me be clear.....I was alerted to this from day one!

Posted by: Lowell at May 28, 2010 01:10 PM (X1hJl)

22 16
Wonder how much she had to drink? I've never been able to really sleep
on a plane, no matter how tired I was.

I'm betting Ambien with a couple of white wine spritzers to wash it down.

Posted by: Beppo at May 28, 2010 01:10 PM (Iixgl)

23 Best nap I ever had on a plane was when I fell asleep while we were taxi-ing away from the gate. There was a delay and the plane sat in line for take off for a loooong time, but I slept through it all. Woke up with less than an hour left of the flight. The guy next to me seemed annoyed that I'd missed out on the delay.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 28, 2010 01:13 PM (XdlcF)

24 On the other hand, that must have been one smooth landing. Maybe the pilot should get a raise.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at May 28, 2010 01:13 PM (vD76z)

25 My wife's uncle was coming home once on a CTA bus (allegedly, real drunk) and fell aslepp. When he woke up, the bus was in the bus wash, he saw all the water and thought he was in a monsoon.

Posted by: CUS at May 28, 2010 01:14 PM (wOGfT)

26 9 The damages ought to be taken care of with one roundtrip ticket to anywhere, which is what you usually get when an airline inconveniences you. YEAH, I AGREE. CAN ANY OF OUR LAWYERS HERE TELL US: IS WHAT *MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED* (SUCH AS SHE MIGHT HAVE HAD A SEIZURE AND BEEN UNABLE TO OBTAIN HELP OR HER FAMILY MIGHT HAVE BEEN SICK WITH WORRY ABOUT HER FAILURE TO SHOW UP AND HAVE SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN) GROUNDS FOR DAMAGES? BECAUSE THE REAL DAMAGES ARE NEGLIGIBLE. HECK, IT DOESN'T EVEN SOUND LIKE SHE MISSED A CONNECTION.

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:14 PM (Kn9r7)

27 BTW, sorry for the caps. I keep losing formatting.

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:15 PM (Kn9r7)

28 On a somewhat more serious note, for security reasons cabin crews really
shouldn't let people alone in planes like that.

Yeah, I'm a wee tiny bit concerned that the crew didn't insure that the plane was cleared. That's not worrisome at all.


Posted by: alexthechick at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (8WZWv)

29 The damages ought to be taken care of with one roundtrip ticket to anywhere, which is what you usually get when an airline inconveniences you. This is no worse than getting bumped from a flight for a few hours.
Posted by: Truman North at May 28, 2010 01:02 PM (e8YaH)
Getting bumped and comped is the greatest thing in the world. Mrs Hate and I were approached in San Joseby a United rep regarding aflight to Cleveland that was overbooked. We had gotten there super early (one of Mrs H's phobias that drives me up the fucking wall but worked out well in this instance) and they ended up finding us a flight that got us home *earlier* than our scheduled one did; plus a roundtripper apiece to any destination in the lower 48 (or 55 to the jugeared fuck).

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (5qjjt)

30 Three hours after landing she wakes up she claims? Yea right!! She either downed some pretty potent meds to keep her out, or she was hiding in the crappertoset up a case. Feiger is leache's leach type of attorney. A low down scum sucking bottom barrel dwelling parasite.
If it was me,maybe havea little fun and fire up the turbojetsor order Chinese take out over the radio.

Posted by: monsterbox at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (PEtA4)

31 Drew, the sad thing about this is if you read the blog Overlawered frequently you find that this kind of behavior is now normal.

Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (6taRI)

32 I guess it depends on how many flights you've been subjected to.. I've fallen asleep lots of times during takeoffs and other times had to be awoken at the terminal. Just depends on how dragged out you are from all the travel and how used to it you are.

I feel the crew was negligent -- they should have ensured the plane was empty if for no other reason than terminal security.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at May 28, 2010 01:20 PM (AlWmG)

33 There have been a couple of nursery school kids left in school busses that were parked for the night. Some of the kids have been fine but others haven't. Now bus drivers have to go through the bus front to back and back to front and make sure no one is left.

You would think that airline crews would do the same thing. Not so much for the passengers but, since the plane would be quickly cleaned and then reloaded with passengers, a person, left on the plane for that little bit of time, might do something to the plane to compromise the next flight? this looks more like a security lapse than anything else.

I'm sure all flight attendants and pilots from all airlines got a memo this morning about this....something like "don't leave the damned plane until you've checked the bathrooms and made sure every seat is empty.

Posted by: curious at May 28, 2010 01:21 PM (p302b)

34 OK, I don't get it. How can a bunch of mouth breathing, value-rite snorting, vodka eye-balling, pudding smacking, retards be bagging on some woman for living the Ace 'O Spades lifestyle?
Seriously, anytime I find myself forced to deal with either government or corporatebureaucracies, public or private transportation, employment related issues, or personal interactions with other people, I make sure I am well fortified with either massive quantities of Bacardi 151, amyl nitrite, or fortified gilla monster venom.
Let the first commenter who hasn't passed out in public transportationcast the first stone!

Posted by: Ed at May 28, 2010 01:23 PM (OCfDT)

35 It's the worst thing that's happened to this woman since she spilled McDonalds coffee on herself and found out that it was hot.

Posted by: Cicero at May 28, 2010 01:24 PM (QKKT0)

36 As far as damages, I don't know Michigan law and I really don't know aviation law which is a freakshow to itself. I'm trying to figure out how this would be false imprisonment. I vaguely recall that there has to be an intent to keep a person from leaving. I don't think being really f'ing stupid constitutes intent.

Re: possibilities - generally, it's no harm, no foul. I can't sue you for cutting me off in traffic because you might have hurt me. You have to actually hurt me.

Posted by: alexthechick at May 28, 2010 01:25 PM (8WZWv)

37 Little known fact about Fieger: his brother is Doug Fieger, lead singer for the Knack. The best 'skinny-tie' '80's band EVER!

My Sharona!

Posted by: Phat at May 28, 2010 01:28 PM (RbGdb)

38 gee how bout "take responsibility for yourself?
and f-ing stupid ,cant beleive what constitutes news"""

Posted by: red lemur at May 28, 2010 01:29 PM (GVzbl)

39 Feiger is leache's leach type of attorney. A low down scum sucking bottom barrel dwelling parasite.
Retract that or you'll hear from our lawyers.

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Low Down Scum-Sucking Bottom Barrel Dwelling Parasites at May 28, 2010 01:30 PM (QKKT0)

40 Fuck this.

Hey, you fucking idiots: People sleep on planes. Who cares why she slept through landing? Maybe she had a goddamn stroke? Well, no one cares cuz she's a corpse on a plane.

It's closing time, she should have been removed from the plane, period, done and over. That's game, folks. The airline doesn't have the responsibility to wake her up, but it sure as hell has responsibility to NOT leave strange people chillin' in aisle 34, and the airline sure as hell has the responsibility to NOT lock her in.

There's being an advocate for personal responsibility, and then there's being a goddamn mouth-breathin' jackass. STOP being the later. She doesn't deserve gajillions, but she didn't toss her baby into a dumpster either.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at May 28, 2010 01:30 PM (N8eC4)

41 #10

A looong time ago, I fell asleep in a movie theater. I had already seen one movie in the early afternoon and snuck into another room to watch the animated 'Lord of the Rings' again. (So this was the summer of 1978 and I was thirteen.) I fell asleep for what I'd thought was just a few minutes because the scene being shown was about a third further into the movie.

But when I went outside it was almost dark, making it close to 9 PM. I headed home and was shocked to find out nobody had missed me. My father had died very recently, so my mother wasn't in the best shape but you'd have thought at least one of my four older siblings would have wondered where I was.

More recently, in 2000, I was in New York City for a trade show job. We were staying with a friend in his apartment in New Jersey and the heat had made sleep very difficult. We had an acquaintance who had a snazzy suite on a high floor of the New Yorker (IIRC) hotel. I was permitted to grab some nap time there before heading over to the job site. I was really exhausted, so when I woke I found myself completely disoriented. I had no idea where I was or how I'd gotten there. I had to look out the window and stare at Manhattan a couple of minutes before it all came back to me.

A very odd moment for someone not given to drink.

Posted by: epobirs at May 28, 2010 01:32 PM (IYz8z)

42 alexthechick at May 28, 2010 01:25 PM (8WZWv)
Don't worry, I don't know anything about Michigan or aviation law either. Neither do I know anything about female sexuality or body parts or emotions or anything at all that would enable me to satisfy them physically, sexually, or emotionally. But I don't let this stop me from blaming all of my many (well, one or two) sexual partners for their lack of ability to orgasam.
I got mine, your pleasure is your responsibility, that's what I always say at the end...
As far as the issue you raise about no harm no foul, if she had to be somewhere, and missed it because the flight crew didn't kick her off the plane, wouldn't that be the harm?

Posted by: Ed at May 28, 2010 01:33 PM (OCfDT)

43 Why is it that women have so much trouble with transportation???

Posted by: Just Asking at May 28, 2010 01:35 PM (UQzy0)

44 36
It's the worst thing that's happened to this woman since she spilled
McDonalds coffee on herself

You got that right!

Posted by: Jackie Chiles at May 28, 2010 01:36 PM (Kn9r7)

45 Posted by: Vercingetorix at May 28, 2010 01:30 PM

Yes, but I believe you need to demonstrate damages/harm, not just negligence. So it seems to me that the damages are whatever the 15 minutes of stress involved.

Does anyone know if she had a cell phone?

Posted by: Jackie Chiles at May 28, 2010 01:38 PM (Kn9r7)

46 WTF, people?
As soon as they locked her in, it's all on them.
If it were me stuck in there, I wouldn't have been thinking lawsuit, but I'd have busted out in the most plane-damaging way I could make happen with what's around.

Posted by: oblig. at May 28, 2010 01:39 PM (x7Ao8)

47 Jackie Chiles begone!

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:39 PM (Kn9r7)

48 The airline has released video of the incident. It looks... pretty bad.
http://tinyurl.com/32uqwn4

Posted by: Capt. Oveur at May 28, 2010 01:40 PM (Ks4nX)

49 In a similar situation, I would go into the cockpit and pretend I was flying the airplane.

Complete with "vroom-vroom" noises and pretend radio chatter with the tower.

Posted by: Swet Lou at May 28, 2010 01:42 PM (eye/E)

50 "38"

You probably didn't live through the summer of 1979, or you wouldn't have made that claim...

Nuke The Knack

Posted by: Hurry Hard at May 28, 2010 01:43 PM (aOxNf)

51

Her damages are what she suffered. 15 minutes of anxiety.

What "could have" happened can't be compensated, after all, how could it? Her family could have dies during that time, but it didn't.

So, she might likely get the case to jury, but what jury will award her any money for 15 minutes. Even if she is the proverbial eggshell plaintiff?

Posted by: s'moron at May 28, 2010 01:44 PM (UaxA0)

52 I guess at the end of the day, there are people who operate with the "shit happens" philosophy and others who operate with the "I'll get mine" philosophy. I favor the former, even though I think the airlines suck and blow and most airline employees (pilots excepted), especially gate agents, are evil rat bastards.

But I digress.

Many years ago Mr. Y-not were taking a cab ride in Chicago. Crappy cab with bald tires and the driver was none to careful. It was winter, there was black ice, and the car spun out. We were inconvenienced - they had to get us a new cab so there was a delay of standing in the cold - but that was it. No injuries.

Some time later we were contacted by the cab company (or their law firm, I can't recall which) to see if we were planning on suing and to offer us a settlement. We told them to forget about it. We had no intention of suing.

When the airline industry is suffering as badly as it is - and I fully acknowledge that much of that is their own fault, but some of it isn't - why do we want to applaud a woman who at most deserves a free airline ticket for her troubles?

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:46 PM (Kn9r7)

53 @50 You just want to play with the autopilot. (http://tinyurl.com/397m4lm)

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:50 PM (Kn9r7)

54 Damages were she was physically detained for 3 hours, not 3 hours, 15 minutes.

When someone is kidnapped, we don't prosecute the kidnappers only for the hours the victim is awake.

Personally, I don't care whether she gets an award or not, or if she sued or not. This is a public safety issue, especially in this age of terrorism. Forget Lazy Susan, what if it was Crazy Omar? Crazy Omar with explosive easter eggs he just happened to hide all over the plane. What then?

Maybe she deserves nothing for compensation. But the airline deserves to get fucking hammered like a Bachelorette party in a trailer park for screwing up this bad.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at May 28, 2010 01:51 PM (N8eC4)

55 Let the first commenter who hasn't passed out in public
transportationcast the first stone!

Once, a hobo masturbated onto my foot while I was passed out at the First Ave L train stop.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 28, 2010 01:52 PM (mHQ7T)

56 Complete with "vroom-vroom" noises and pretend radio chatter with the
tower.

" A-Mex 4-0-3, contact departure, adios."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 28, 2010 01:55 PM (mHQ7T)

57 @56 lol. As for this woman, I think the striking thing is that apparently she is so beloved that she went missing for over three hours without anyone - apparently - looking for her. If I went to pick up my husband from a flight and he didn't come off of it, it would not take me three hours to find out where he was. It's a simple matter to confirm he was on the flight. Anyway, Vercingetorix is right that the airline messed up badly, but I just don't think she has a good case for damages.

Posted by: Y-not at May 28, 2010 01:56 PM (Kn9r7)

58 They probably thought she was dead and were going to leave the stiff as a practical joke for the morning crew.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 28, 2010 02:01 PM (xHHUU)

59 We had an acquaintance who had a snazzy suite on a high floor of the New
Yorker (IIRC) hotel. I was permitted to grab some nap time there before
heading over to the job site. I was really exhausted, so when I woke I
found myself completely disoriented. I had no idea where I was or how
I'd gotten there. I had to look out the window and stare at Manhattan a
couple of minutes before it all came back to me.

I attended Clinton's inauguration my junior year of high school. When we all got on a subway, I had dawdled a bit and missed the train. The teacher was on it already and nobody held the door. I forget where we were going. I think for some famous MD crabs in Georgetown. I went back to the hotel where hobos were having sex very loudly next door.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 28, 2010 02:01 PM (mHQ7T)

60 My life is like a country western song, nothing but hobos, trains and sex.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 28, 2010 02:04 PM (mHQ7T)

61 Bet me she didn't hide in the shitter or something and the whole thing is a set up.

Dammit, I wanted to be the first to say that.

Posted by: Steve L. at May 28, 2010 02:05 PM (Gkhxf)

62

"Damages" are what the monetary value is for pain and suffering. What is the monetary value of her "suffering" while she was asleep?

If you "kidnap" an unconscious person, and release them before they awake, you can be charged with a crime, and they can sue you for the tort of false imprisonment. But damages are limited to the pain and suffering ACTUALLY INCURRED in the course of the tort.

Dignitary harms, such as defamation, carry different damages rules, but for physical torts you have non-economic damages and economic damages. Non-econ damages are limited to what is actually suffered, or else you are treading into "punitive" territory, a mistrial, and likely a Bar sanction. The damages from false imprisonment are the inability to leave and the trauma associated with that limitation.

One can certainly argue (and I expect this shyster to do so) that whether for one minute or one week, the restraint on liberty effected the victim just as deeply, but the jury isn't gonna buy that, I can tell you. But no matter what, you cannot argue for damages that the victim did not incur.

This woman sleeping through her imprisonment--to the extent it can be considered that under Michigan law--cannot form part of her damages. Finger (what I'm calling the creep) can argue that she should be compensated generally for the loss of liberty, but he'll draw an objection if he starts going off about "for three hours she was detained!"

Posted by: s'moron at May 28, 2010 02:05 PM (UaxA0)

63

Tattoo De Plane


Well, I was drunk
the day that Mama got outta prison.

And I went to pick her up in the rain.

But, before I could get to the station in my pickup truck

She got runned over by a damned old train.


LMAO on the hobo story. Is it true?

Posted by: s'moron at May 28, 2010 02:08 PM (UaxA0)

64 If it was me,maybe havea little fun and fire up the turbojetsor order
Chinese take out over the radio.

65+ comments and no one thought to break into the onboard liquor cabinet?

Radio chatter could also include stuff from Airplane (Gimme a vector, Victor), and Top Gun (Maverick requesting a fly-by).

How long do you think it would have taken them to figure out the transmissions were coming from a parked, locked plane?

Posted by: TXMarko at May 28, 2010 02:19 PM (4ANH2)

65 She clearly didn't listen to the lecture on opening the emergency exits. I would have deployed the slide, just for the hell of it.

Posted by: wheels within wheels at May 28, 2010 02:22 PM (4WbTI)

66 " A-Mex 4-0-3, contact departure, adios."

That should be, Adios, MoFo!

Posted by: TXMarko at May 28, 2010 02:26 PM (4ANH2)

67 I didn't read every comment, but just in case nobody else posted it yet, here's the video of the interview:
http://tinyurl.com/3y8yt77

I fail to see how she was harmed. And emotional damage is bullshit.

Posted by: Mephistefales at May 28, 2010 02:27 PM (/uU9i)

68 Here you go sport,

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4217964/abandoned-passenger-suing-airline

Posted by: 1sttofight at May 28, 2010 02:28 PM (AfcDN)

69 I think this shows how passenger flight attendent relations have become adversarial over the last decade.
I'm not saying I condone it, but I suspect these flight attendents left her on the plane as a form of retaliation.
I mean, if you were a flight attendent, trying to serve people and protect them, and this person can't even be bothered to stay awake during the safety brief, to act engaged when flight attendents try to serve you, to even ask a simple question "how are you doing, thanks for everything", can you really be surprised at what happened?
Clearly, these flight attendents left here there as a passive aggressive response to this passengers total indiffernece to flight attendents and their work.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it's what happened.

Posted by: Art Diego at May 28, 2010 02:29 PM (OCfDT)

70 There is nothing unreasonable in expecting attendants to wake you up when flight ends and not leave you in an empty closed airplane. This is gross negligence on their part and I have no problem with her suing.

Posted by: AlexD at May 28, 2010 02:40 PM (fbEVF)

71 ....so, I just dropped 90 lbs of luggage off at the TSA screeners, and the baggage agent who tagged them never asked to see my ID.

Who feels safe?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 28, 2010 02:42 PM (PufQP)

72 There is nothing unreasonable in expecting attendants to wake you up when flight ends
Is that one of their duties as specified in their contract? They have a union.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 28, 2010 02:44 PM (PufQP)

73 Found interview on youtube:
http://tinyurl.com/3y8yt77

Posted by: AFFA at May 28, 2010 02:51 PM (PikVG)

74 Is that one of their duties as specified in their contract?


I don't know neither their contract nor relevant law but they definately should be obliged to make sure all passengers left before leaving and closing the plane.

Posted by: AlexD at May 28, 2010 03:01 PM (fbEVF)

75 This almost happened to me. I fell asleep on a flight; and was awaken when the stewardess asked which type of immigration/custom form I needed for Mexico. Door was closed, but I really didn't want to go to Mexico - so they let me off. Did not know that I could have sued.

Posted by: Jean at May 28, 2010 03:01 PM (mtAmx)

76 Didn't this same thing happen to a guy in one of the early Fantasy Island pilots?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 28, 2010 03:04 PM (0QJjg)

77 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLuWciXFcM">Wake up, little Susie, wake up --

Wake up, little Susie, wake up --

We've both been sound asleep,

Wake up, little Susie, and weep,

The movie's over, it's four o'clock,

And we're both in trouble deep ...



The movie wasn't so hot,

It didn't have much of a plot,

We fell asleep, our goose is cooked,

Our reputation is shot...



Wake up. little Susie,
We gotta go home...</a>

Posted by: Mary in LA at May 28, 2010 03:11 PM (JYxmy)

78 Feiger is airing commercials against tort reform here in Michigan.

Talk about having way too much money.

He claims tort reform is just like, after sitting for hours or days on a jury, and coming up with a verdict, you then have the government come in and change it on you.

What a fzcking sleaze.

Posted by: K~Bob at May 28, 2010 03:14 PM (9b6FB)

79 I honestly don't understand most people's reaction to this story. I've no doubt the woman's stupid, and I think it's weird she could sleep so soundly--but the airline locked her in! You honestly want to tell me you think that's even close to OK?
Besides, maybe Abdul Abu Muhammedmight wanna know feigning sleep wouldget himsome uninterrupted time on board a plane.

Posted by: Best thief in Lankhmar at May 28, 2010 03:18 PM (2ajJo)

80 In our defense, look at her; we thought someone left their unwanted old bag on board.

Posted by: United Express Cleaning Crew at May 28, 2010 03:19 PM (jvG2F)

81 Was the plane a single engine or four engine? Cuz it's an entirely different kind of flying altogether.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 28, 2010 03:19 PM (0QJjg)

82
<blockquote>I honestly don't understand most people's reaction to this story.
I've no doubt the woman's stupid, and I think it's weird she could sleep
so soundly</blockquote>
I think some kind of sedative was probably involved. Not an excuse, just a possible explanation.

<blockquote>--but the airline locked her in! You honestly want to tell me
you think that's even close to OK?</blockquote>
No, definitely not OK. Pretty stupid on the part of the airline, possibly criminally negligent. However, not grounds for her to sue for one meeeeeeellion dollars (/ Dr. Evil).


<blockquote>Besides, maybe Abdul Abu Muhammedmight wanna know feigning sleep
wouldget himsome uninterrupted time on board a plane. </blockquote>
A very fair point.

Posted by: Mary in LA at May 28, 2010 03:26 PM (JYxmy)

83 Do we not do HTML around here? Or am I just lame? :-(

Posted by: Mary in LA at May 28, 2010 03:27 PM (JYxmy)

84 I'm speculating: had one gone ahead and lit a cigarette, would an alarm have gone off? Would you have had to pay the room-cleaning fee? Would the airline have had to take the airliner out of service for second-hand smoke amelioration? And how about those flammable and carcinogenic interior fabrics? It's been so long since smoking was legal, who knows if the whole damn thing might have just flashed off like a Chinese fireworks ash-snake?
OK some will say that's just gross. You know who you are. What about this concept that she hid in the lavatory...and the cleaning crew didn't findher?

Posted by: comatus at May 28, 2010 04:05 PM (YN/Le)

85 I am going to have to lean towards the passenger on this one. Not lawsuit millions in damages lean. But at least say that the flight crew did have an obligation to wake her and inform her the plane had arrived at destination. Why you may ask? Say your a hard sleeper, (Obviously this chick is) you've got your monster wake up the neighborhood alarm clock packed in your luggage because it is A electronic and B really too big to carry on your person. You step onto a plane, you step under the flight crew's authority by federal law (I'm sure many here need no reminder about that). Then they tell you to sit down, sit still, shut up. Then they dim the lights and run the O2 down to what you expect at 3-5 thousand feet. Drowsiness is an expected side effect. You can not expect someone to stay awake under those circumstances. You cannot expect someone to spontaneously re-awaken once they're asleep. So yes I think the flight crew has a responsibility to wake passengers on arrival.

All that said, I think her damages should be constrained to wasting three hours of her life, and to hell with the "I was scared" BS. So f*ing what, you don't have a right NOT to be scared on a plane. Reasonable people would not be scared just because they woke up in an empty plane. They would be concerned, yes, but give me money scared, nope. Give her a ticket and call it good.

The security issue? That is troubling; to think a Jihadi might be one hard sleep from a free airliner is somewhat disconcerting.

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Do we not do HTML around here? Or am I just lame? :-(


Posted by: Mary in LA
Click the thingy that looks like arrow brackets < > at the top of the comments tab for html...though not all html will work.

I use that all the time to close the damn auto-format italics...

Posted by: Ranba Ral at May 28, 2010 04:31 PM (l2CML)

87 I'm not in the least sympathetic towards this woman, but it does worry me that someone might have a stroke, or someother medical problem, in flight and be unconsciouse at landing and NO ONE on the plane picks up on it.If the airlines has a policy that it's theflight crew's responsibility to clear the plane, then the flight crew need to be penalized in some way. If the airlines doesn't have such apolicy they deserve everything they get.

Posted by: rabidfox at May 28, 2010 04:43 PM (blwrm)

88 89 but it does worry me that someone might have a stroke, or someother medical problem, in flight and be unconsciouse at landing and NO ONE on the plane picks up on it.

I'm pretty sure the flight crew are not her mommy.
Nobody has an on demand right to be noticed.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at May 28, 2010 05:32 PM (5s1FW)

89 The interviewer is just nuts. Why didn't you set your cell phone alarm? Um, didn't they airline and FAA require that she have all electronic devices switched off? Geepers. They require us to behave like babies under threat of force, then when we do, they claim that it isn't their responsibility to take care of us? I hope the airline looses.

Posted by: Matt Elliott at May 28, 2010 05:36 PM (8eBlI)

90 Posted by: Ranba Ral at May 28, 2010 04:31 PM (l2CML)

Ah, I see. I have Javascript turned off and pop-ups blocked, because they are eeeeeevil. That explains why the source editor window didn't come up. Thanks!

Posted by: Mary in LA at May 28, 2010 05:58 PM (JYxmy)

91 After I got tired of pretending I was flying the airplane, I would go to the first class section and see how many of the little liquor bottles I could find. There might be a few left over in-flight meals as well.

The BEST part, however, would be the next morning when the poor pilot or maintenance man or whoever opened the door to the airplane and I jumped out from behind a corner and yelled BOO!

Now that I think about it, this would make a great movie. It would be like "Career Opportunities", but on an airplane...

Posted by: Swet Lou at May 28, 2010 06:00 PM (eye/E)

92 Listening to her interview, I wouldn't be surprised if this womam was a complete b*tchtowardsthe flight attendents.She sounds like an empty headed, entitlement seeking, gold digging,type of person. Maybe locking her in was retaliation from the flight crew.

Posted by: monsterbox at May 28, 2010 06:35 PM (PEtA4)

93 While it is not the airline's responsibility to wake her at any given time (they aren't the hotel wake up call service), common sense would indicate that someone wake her on the way out.

That said, she's more than 50% at fault, so any 'damages' she might have incurred would be reduced by her own liability. Moreover, it is clear she had NO damages--when asked on multiple occasions what she wanted from the suit she said she didn't know. If she had nightmares about being locked in a plane, suffered "dumbass locked up" syndrome or something similar, she'd know it. She's just mad b/c nobody did what she should have done herself.

If I were on the jury I'd give her a total of $.01 for her inconvenience of having to call someone upon waking up, reduced by her 90% fault. I'd then round down and give her nada, other than some invaluable advice to get a life and a better attorney (one that will tell her she's stupid next time she asks if she has a case).

Posted by: Bawney Frank's Missing Y Chromosome at May 28, 2010 06:48 PM (AdWYx)

94 Oh, if only that would happen to me... "Philadelphia ground, [N-number] at gate X for a southbound VFR departure with information Echo." Later, suckers!

Posted by: mikey at May 28, 2010 06:59 PM (xfRfG)

95 Ok, I'd probably just use the plane radio to get someone to get me--but I can dream...

Posted by: mikey at May 28, 2010 07:03 PM (xfRfG)

96 While this woman is clearly an idiot, I don't really understand why the crew didn't notice she was there and wake her before leaving and locking the airplane's doors.

Posted by: RJ at May 28, 2010 08:06 PM (ADbI4)

97 Once, a hobo masturbated onto my foot while I was passed out at the First Ave L train stop.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 28, 2010 01:52 PM (mHQ7T)
You lucky bastard. There are people who will pay good money for that...er....so I've heard.

Posted by: Bill H at May 28, 2010 11:23 PM (q8CmE)

98 Yeah, Feiger. The perennial gubernatorial candidate. And scum-sucking leech.

@17: Don't ask how we manage to exist. It's become a true burden on the four of us left in the state actually still paying taxes.

Posted by: Angie at May 29, 2010 12:11 AM (wtmPb)

99 It is her responsibility to make sure she wakes up.

It is the cabin crew's responsibility to check the plane and make sure no one is on board.

She has no grounds for a suit, but the airline does have grounds to change their operating procedures to ensure this doesn't happen again.

If she was asking for an apology I might understand, but money?

Dumb bitch can suck my dick.


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101 For those who say the woman has no case, consider this: Is it okay to pull a plane into a hangar, close up,turn off the lights, and leave a passenger sleeping in the planealone?
Of course not.
The airline is a "common carrier." Here's the rule: "All common carriers have the duty to exercise utmost care and extraordinary diligence in any contract of carriage."
The airline's conduct was clearly below the standard of care.
On the flip side, I watched the video. This woman exists to make a box of rocks look like Stephen Hawking.

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