New Jan Brewer Ad: Reading Is Fun-damental To Understanding a Law
More: McClintock Rips Calderon

But Democrats don't agree.

Of course they've all read the law -- it's ten pages. Claiming to have not read it allows them to speak of vaguely-defined "concerns" without having to point out specific language in the bill they object to -- because if they did the latter, they'd be unable to find anything illegal here.

What they're attempting to do is claim they support, of course, the substance of the bill -- of course they agree with enforcing the border! -- while pretending their objection is over procedural matters. This pose allows them to pretend for the 70% of the country that supports the bill that they're on their side, at least as regards the big substantive goal of the bill.

But mouthing vague quibbles about procedural issues gets them goodwill from the 30% who oppose the bill, aka "The Democratic Base."

If they ever read the bill -- or admit they do -- they'll find this sort of Yasser Arafat-like equivocation more difficult. Because it will quickly be revealed that their supposedly procedure-only quibbles are in fact objections to the substance -- they oppose any methods of controlling immigration that are actually likely to work.

They support only the methods that won't work -- UAVs, "virtual fences," other technobabble non-solutions -- precisely because they won't work, which is why they have a pass from the Open Borders lobby to support such measures.

Essentially they're asking the bank robbers what they should do to improve vault security. The bank robbers tell them to leave the vault door open and turn off the alarms and fire the guards, and instead use "smart solutions" to guard the money, like big signs saying "Please don't take our money."

Thanks to Jake.

More: McClintock makes a stand.

And still more: Brewer tells Greta she's sent many letters to administration officials begging them for border help, and they've ignored them -- not even replied. Do your job, she tells President Lightworkerweight.

Posted by: Ace at 04:47 PM



Comments

1 Jan Brewer: The face of the new Republican Party.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 21, 2010 04:48 PM (qSRHZ)

2 They haven't read the bill for two reasons: plausible deniability, as you pointed out, and the fact that the MFM has digested the bill for them into bite-size chunks: "racist," "racial profiling," "civil rights violation." Those chunks are all they know, and all they need to know.

Posted by: stuiec at May 21, 2010 04:50 PM (7AOgy)

3 Reading is racist.

Posted by: Y-not at May 21, 2010 04:52 PM (Kn9r7)

4 I like the fat guy from NJ, better.

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2010 04:52 PM (Vpoel)

5 I was for reading the bill, before I was against it.

Posted by: John "Flipper" Kerry - also a traitorous clapper at May 21, 2010 04:53 PM (YVZlY)

6 Jeez, what is it with you people and putting photons through your optic nerve?

Posted by: Carnac the Magnificent at May 21, 2010 04:53 PM (0K3p3)

7 Reading is racist.
I think you're right. It's something whitey does to lord it over brown people.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 04:54 PM (P33XN)

8 They might have read the bill if it was in Spanish.

Posted by: Mister Fluffy Pants at May 21, 2010 04:54 PM (gLNLT)

9 Of course they don't want to read the bill, because then they would have to represent its contents accurately. At a time of record deficits and huge unemployment and underemployment, somehow the Democrats are in favor of millions of people being 'off the books' and not paying into Social Security, Medicare, or any federal or state taxes.

I mean, I see a lot of hyperbole and rhetoric here, as would be expected. We're all somewhat partisan. But I'm beginning to really, really believe Barack Obama is going to be the death of the Democrats for the next 12 years. They're going over the cliff and hitting the accelerator at the same time.

Ann Coulter accurately hit the point about predictions, so I won't speak in numbers. But a major beatdown is coming. Unexpected and historic.

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 21, 2010 04:55 PM (IhHdM)

10 Jan Brewer was on Greta yesterday, and it's clear she's not backing down.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 04:56 PM (P33XN)

11 I wanna read good and wanna learn to do other stuff good too.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 21, 2010 04:57 PM (QMtmy)

12
Christie/Brewer 2012
Kicking Ass!
Naming Names!

Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 21, 2010 04:57 PM (Oxen1)

13 Still, I think messages like this are powerful..

It shows how much of a clown this administration is..

It's reactionary to some degree but still hitting them where it counts.

Posted by: Dave C at May 21, 2010 04:58 PM (qmecx)

14 Reading the Bill?
Why?
They passed it. Sooner or later we'll find out what is in it.
Until then it's best to assume that it violates the rights of Trans-Gendered Mexican Emigres and their Adoptive Children.
For Shame!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 21, 2010 04:58 PM (Vpoel)

15 mouthing vague quibbles
That's a trick I use on the Mrs. when I blow in her ear.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 21, 2010 05:00 PM (QMtmy)

16 Bwhahaha! And to add insult to injury, to be schooled by a frog...

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 05:01 PM (CfmlF)

17 /Golf Clap
Oh.... well played!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2010 05:01 PM (OlHjR)

18 Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't it look stupid for the 0 administration zombies to keep admitting they haven't read the bill?

Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at May 21, 2010 05:01 PM (as47X)

19 Maybe if AZ attached another 1990 pages to the bill it wouldn't be getting all this attention.

Posted by: Dave C at May 21, 2010 05:02 PM (qmecx)

20 Wow, looks like Brewer got the good ad people in AZ and McCain got stuck with the stupid "finish the dangd fence" company.

Great stuff.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 21, 2010 05:02 PM (X/Lqh)

21 Brewer put this out on her own. I'm liking this woman more and more.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 05:03 PM (nqCRm)

22 Having just seen the video, I am deeply concerned about the subliminal Paulian messages contained therein.
Something needs to be done!

Posted by: Pelvis at May 21, 2010 05:04 PM (LlaBi)

23 I'm not worried; Michelle Obama assured us that we need to work on this.

Posted by: Fritz at May 21, 2010 05:04 PM (GwPRU)

24 Oh noes, Democrats make the froggie sad!
I'm amazed that she went there.
Tee hee.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 21, 2010 05:04 PM (XdlcF)

25 How DARE they use animals to promote the Rethuglicans agenda. BOYCOTT ARIZONA!!!

Posted by: PETA at May 21, 2010 05:04 PM (gLNLT)

26 They support only the methods that won't work -- UAVs, "virtual fences,"
other technobabble non-solutions -- precisely because they won't work,
which is why they have a pass from the Open Borders lobby to support
such measures.

Exactly. In fact, if you go back and read the bill that McLame cosponsored with the commies it too was filled with unenforceable border control.

It is easy to say you are "for immigration reform". What seems to be hard is getting real reform as opposed to amnesty for illegals from Mexico who will vote for Democrats in mass.

Posted by: Vic at May 21, 2010 05:04 PM (6taRI)

27 I don't even think this is correct. I don't think that many of them have a problem with controlling the border. I really don't.
But when the choice is to refuse to comment about something you don't really care about or to stand up and preen, allowing others to see the essential goodness and correctness of your heart, why, liberals live for that.

Posted by: spongeworthy at May 21, 2010 05:05 PM (rplL3)

28 "I was told there would be no math..."

Posted by: Barry O'Bumbles at May 21, 2010 05:05 PM (CfmlF)

29 Frog? Is that some racist smear against those Frenchie bastards?

Posted by: nickless at May 21, 2010 05:05 PM (MMC8r)

30 Wow, looks like Brewer got the good ad people in AZ
and McCain got stuck with the stupid "finish the dangd fence" company.

Great
stuff.


Posted by: DrewM. at May 21, 2010 05:02 PM (X/Lqh)
Look at the bright side. If he doesn't get re-elected, we now know that McCain has what it takes to be a prop comic.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 21, 2010 05:05 PM (xxgag)

31 27-many conservatives also.

Posted by: Pelvis at May 21, 2010 05:06 PM (LlaBi)

32 Readin, Ritin, Rithmitic--That's some racist alliteration!

Posted by: Rev. Al Sharpton, who cannot read nor speak at May 21, 2010 05:06 PM (CfmlF)

33 Thanks for the compliments all. I went to become a spokesperson for Arizona because I just got fucking sick and tired of crossing the road.

Posted by: Frogger at May 21, 2010 05:07 PM (gLNLT)

34 Hey Odumbass, Israel has a border wall and it fucking works.

Posted by: conscious and screaming clappers are traitors! at May 21, 2010 05:07 PM (YVZlY)

35 I read once. Fuck that.

Posted by: Quayle at May 21, 2010 05:07 PM (XBdMr)

36 Brewer, Christie, McClintock!
Mi pooter todavيa estل en llamas!

Posted by: mpfs, future Mrs. Gov. Christie at May 21, 2010 05:08 PM (iYbLN)

37 Hey Odumbass, Israel has a border wall and it fucking works.
Posted by: conscious and screaming clappers are traitors! at May 21, 2010 05:07 PM (YVZlY)

Not according to Mitchell, Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Spanky's gang?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 21, 2010 05:08 PM (0GFWk)

38 You expect us to do what?

Posted by: English School Teachers at May 21, 2010 05:09 PM (rzJpR)

39 I expect ICE agents will soon be detaining Arizona frogs.

Posted by: mpfs, future Mrs. Gov. Christie at May 21, 2010 05:10 PM (iYbLN)

40 One AoS vidoe makes me bawl my eyes out, the next infuriates me, and the last makes me laugh maniacally.
Starting to feel like Sybil here.......

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 21, 2010 05:10 PM (pLTLS)

41 Heh! My husband went to a men's Bible study this a.m. where one of the guys was saying he didn't know much about the Arizona law (obviously hadn't read it), but he thought it was wrong. I asked my husband if anyone disagreed. He said one guy did, my husband just sat there and listened (he's so conflict averse). I was all over him for not speaking up. I told him if I had been there, I would have taken this fool down, and if he doesn't know anything about a subject, he should keep his stupid piehole shut. It's so irritating to have people offer their opinions when they are completely ignorant and also have no first hand experience of what the people of Arizona are having to cope with because of the scourge of illegal immigration. First of all, it's freaking illegal!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 05:11 PM (CfmlF)

42

Lesson #1:

No established power structure can withstand sustained and cutting ridicule.
I cannot believe she actually made this ad. THe woman has balls the size of John McCain's jowls.

Posted by: s'moron at May 21, 2010 05:11 PM (UaxA0)

43 Until they make illegal immigration illegal , nothing's going to change .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 21, 2010 05:11 PM (a9UO0)

44 They might have read the bill if it was in Spanish.
Posted by: Mister Fluffy Pants at May 21, 2010 04:54 PM (gLNLT)
Barry: Let me explain something to you. They speak Mexican in Mexico. I mean Meh-he-co

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2010 05:12 PM (1Jaio)

45 Reading is racist.
Misspelling is homophobic.
How about grammatical errors? Misogynistic? Ageist? I need to know the correct slur to throw out at people, dammit!

Posted by: NJ(Lying)Conservative at May 21, 2010 05:12 PM (VmtE9)

46 One AoS vidoe makes me bawl my eyes out, the next infuriates me, and the last makes me laugh maniacally.
Starting to feel like Sybil here.......


True Dat! I just finished wiping my blurry screen from that soldiers coming home video, and then I watched this.

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 05:12 PM (CfmlF)

47 What good is reading? They twisted everything I worte.

Posted by: Mohammy at May 21, 2010 05:12 PM (Ie0Es)

48 Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall that won't keep people in and does no good anyway!

Posted by: Liberal Reagan at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (XBdMr)

49 If they ever read the bill -- or admit they do -- they'll find this sort of Yasser Arafat-like equivocation more difficult. Because it will quickly be revealed that their supposedly procedure-only quibbles are in fact objections to the substance
That'san interesting take. I hadn't thought of that.
Thiswould also mean that none of themcan allow themselves to be put in aposition of having to answer questions about it again. Else, they'd have to answer and be pinned down.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (Zuzc5)

50 Virtual condoms, the wave of the future, ladies.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (sGwNK)

51 I read the articles in Playboy. Does that count?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (0GFWk)

52 Oh, and Brewers rock like that, generally.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (Zuzc5)

53 Look at the bright side. If he doesn't get re-elected, we now know that McCain has what it takes to be a prop comic.

Come to think of it, McCain does have a sort of "Chucky" ventriloquist dummy look about him! They have similar eyes and cheeks.

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 05:14 PM (CfmlF)

54 Else, they'd have to answer and be pinned down.

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 21, 2010 05:14 PM (a9UO0)

55

runningrn

your husband sounds like the alpha male to end all alpha males.

Do you kill the spiders in the house too?


Posted by: s'moron at May 21, 2010 05:14 PM (UaxA0)

56 I pooped in the President's Honey Nut Cheerios this morning.

Posted by: Suicide Vole at May 21, 2010 05:15 PM (ikmC5)

57 Starting to feel like Sybil here.......
I thought 'Sybil' was a story about an average American woman.

Posted by: Jilted Male at May 21, 2010 05:15 PM (XBdMr)

58 Else, they'd have to answer and be pinned down.

Everybody funny , now you funny too .

( what I meant to type )

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 21, 2010 05:16 PM (a9UO0)

59 Reading is racially oppressive. All those large, white pages and only a few tiny black words sprinkled around to bring about social justice and equality. Fight the powah!

Posted by: Eric Holder at May 21, 2010 05:16 PM (oLULt)

60 i had an immigration debate with a lib last night. good freaking lord do they twist and try their best to manipulate reality in order to win the argument. ive never witnessed someone so brain-hurt before. the pain must have been atrocious. i wont go into full details, but lets just say this person made me a tad more happier i didn't goes to teh college. all common sense was tossed out of the window by this person. it's truly an amazing sight to behold how a liberal refuses to see the light sometimes.

Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at May 21, 2010 05:17 PM (SlvZ2)

61 It was hot, dusty, barren...I was patrolling the Mexico/US border with just my wits to protect me...when all of sudden a frightening site appeared in my rear view mirror. An Arizona Frog Puppet. I'd heard the stories but nothing prepared me for the face to frog horror. The amphibian fought like a wild man but just my luck I remembered I had a spork in my pocket from Katie's Diner in Scranton. I took that bastard down, down to Scrantontown!

Posted by: Joe "Frog Killer" Biden at May 21, 2010 05:17 PM (iYbLN)

62 Why isn't Jan going along to get along?

I mean, that's the way you get things accomplished.

Posted by: blindside at May 21, 2010 05:18 PM (x7g7t)

63 "I took that bastard down, down to Scrantontown!"

scranton.....pffff ...wannabe....somethings....

Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at May 21, 2010 05:19 PM (SlvZ2)

64 42
Lesson #1:No established
power structure can withstand sustained and cutting ridicule.I cannot believe she actually
made this ad. THe woman has balls the size of John McCain's jowls.
I think Palin told her about alinsky.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 21, 2010 05:22 PM (bAL0J)

65 Unlike Ace, I don't believe they have read the bill. Why read it and then have to lie about it when you can just not read it?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2010 05:22 PM (sGwNK)

66 It was hot, dusty, barren...I was patrolling the
Mexico/US border with just my wits to protect me...when all of sudden a
frightening site appeared in my rear view mirror. An Arizona Frog
Puppet. I'd heard the stories but nothing prepared me for the face to
frog horror. The amphibian fought like a wild man but just my luck I
remembered I had a spork in my pocket from Katie's Diner in Scranton. I
took that bastard down, down to Scrantontown!


Posted by: Joe "Frog Killer" Biden at May 21, 2010 05:17 PM (iYbLN)
I was right there. Shoulder to shoulder with Joe Biden. People spit on us.

Posted by: Sgt. Blumenthall at May 21, 2010 05:24 PM (xxgag)

67 more time spent discussing this 10 page state law than was spent discussing a 2000 page federal one. this irks me. Also, I'm still super pissed about Ca$h 4 Clunkers.
OT from the post but not OT from this comment: Obama's campaign was the original cash for clunkers IFKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 21, 2010 05:24 PM (KYOhR)

68 So now there's a "Read the law" Frog maskot. They can run but they cant hide from the AZ law frog.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at May 21, 2010 05:24 PM (bAL0J)

69 Patient: Doc, blood shoots out my dick every five minutes or so. What should I do about this?
Doctor Obambi: I'd wait and see if it gets any better on its own.

Posted by: Hmmmmm.......... at May 21, 2010 05:26 PM (XBdMr)

70 I buy Hustler so I can read the articles.

Posted by: Hillary's Hubby at May 21, 2010 05:26 PM (xxgag)

71 It's also important to note that Obama and his minions still cry for a "comprehensive" approach to illegal immigration as if he is still in the legislature and somebody else is the President. Maybe somebody ought to remind the Constitutional Law Professor that he is the executive officer now and that he is responsible for enforcing the laws already on the books, whether he likes them or not.

Posted by: Prof. Venkman at May 21, 2010 05:27 PM (4JpPD)

72 How about an illegal immigration version of McGruff the Crime Dog.

McFrogg the ICE Dog.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 05:27 PM (nqCRm)

73 Not.
Wise.
Er.

Posted by: AZ Law Frog at May 21, 2010 05:27 PM (MMC8r)

74 good freaking lord do they twist and try their best to manipulate reality in order to win the argument.
That's not winning an argument. The technical term for it is "fucktarded".

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 21, 2010 05:28 PM (KYOhR)

75 Or, McFrogg the Border Frog.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 05:29 PM (nqCRm)

76 McFrogg the ICE Dog
You want an IRISH frog to help round up poor, hard-working, yearningto breathe free Mexicans????RACIST!

Posted by: Typical Liberal at May 21, 2010 05:29 PM (XBdMr)

77 Goofed on by a frog. hahaha! Excellent ad.

Posted by: Annabelle at May 21, 2010 05:34 PM (AMi7c)

78 If she'll keep making 'em, I'll keep sending money. That's good entertainment.

Posted by: dogfish at May 21, 2010 05:34 PM (9dIfg)

79 Goofed on by a frog. hahaha! Excellent ad.
Posted by: Annabelle at May 21, 2010 05:34 PM (AMi7c)

Better to be goofed on than peed on?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 21, 2010 05:36 PM (0GFWk)

80 "Illegals don't surf!"

Posted by: Lt. Col. Frog Puppet Kilgore at May 21, 2010 05:40 PM (iYbLN)

81 Christie-Brewer-Peterson for President!

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 05:41 PM (1fanL)

82 I cannot believe she actually made this ad. THe woman has balls the size of ...of...John McCain's jowls Chris Christie's balls.

Posted by: Analogically challenged at May 21, 2010 05:43 PM (0K3p3)

83
Peaches?

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 05:50 PM (9X3KM)

84 i dislike the production values of the ad. the lyrics suck (although that's probably intentional), but the video is awful. it's like they just ripped stuff from youtube (something i've noticed people do a lot).

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 21, 2010 05:50 PM (KYOhR)

85 When will Ace do his first triple post?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur Arthur at May 21, 2010 05:52 PM (jf5rK)

86 I luv my govenor

Posted by: sandi at May 21, 2010 05:53 PM (mFp4E)

87 That settles it. Now all we have to figure out is the order.

Is it
Brewer/Corzine 2012 or
Corzine/Brewer 2012?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 21, 2010 05:57 PM (jf5rK)

88 AZ Border Frog? Lightweight.

Posted by: Kermit at May 21, 2010 05:57 PM (8QmEC)

89 No, I really don't think they have read the law.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 21, 2010 05:57 PM (PQY7w)

90 They don't need to read the law. It's the same emotive left wing bullshit we had under Bush where they weren't so much opposed to the the war on terror as they were obsessed with the idea that evil wingnut Jesus freaks who hate would have the power to get all hatey in all the cartoon ways lefties imagine. Now that Teleprompter Jesus is the big smelly dog we don't hear anything from these idiots about the GWOT "shredding the constitution."

This is basically the same thing, except these jabbering idiots make Arizona the villain instead of Bush.

Posted by: Juan Valdez's trusty burro who aids in the portage of glorious coffee beans at May 21, 2010 05:57 PM (fkgyi)

91 I luv my govenor

If you love your doctor governor you get to keep your doctor governor.

Posted by: Liar In Chief at May 21, 2010 05:58 PM (IhHdM)

92 Peaches?

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 05:50 PM (9X3KM)
Nobody here but just us kumquats.

Posted by: Kumquat at May 21, 2010 05:59 PM (1fanL)

93 Instead of Moron Meetups at cash bars, let's have Moron Migrations to the home of the nearest racialist liar on SB1070. They don't believe in American borders, let's pretend we don't believe in theirdoor locks. In LA we have Villaraigosa, you know he's got the good booze. Let's migrate there for the weekend.

Posted by: motionview at May 21, 2010 05:59 PM (wrAuQ)

94 Virtual condoms, the wave of the future, ladies.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2010 05:13 PM (sGwNK)
What? I've been using 'em since I was 15.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 06:00 PM (1fanL)

95 Jan Brewer makes me feel all warm and melty inside.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:00 PM (P33XN)

96
We are in an epic battle of Us vs Evil; it's an election year;...

and some of you insist on being Simon ficking Cowell???

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:00 PM (9X3KM)

97 Jan Brewer makes me feel all warm and melty inside.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:00 PM (P33XN)
That's not Jan Brewer, that's a Taco Bell Gordita Cruch - crunchy, chewy, cheesy, melty.

Posted by: Taco Bell Dog Before He Got Eaten at May 21, 2010 06:03 PM (1fanL)

98 Been said before, but the Republicans need to be all over this. They need to (1) ask themselves (or maybe Dick Morris) how the Democrats would exploit a similar situation if the vast majority of voters were on their side; and (2) go forth and lambaste them.
An ad needs to be made showing Call Drone lecturing us, with periodic cuts to the Democrats standing and applauding. Intersperse quotes from Obama apologizing about the law, Napolitano taking away money for a real fence so they can put up a "virtual fence" (or whatever it was they wanted to do that kept the real fence that was promised from being built), Wolfe Blitzer's interview where Call Drone admits Mexico has an even stricter law, and maybe some quotes from Brewer about how broken the system is. Repeat variations of the ad nightly on prime time.
I'm not a PR guy, but this one would be FUN to make. C'mon Repubs. If the Dems had this kind of edge, they would bury you deeper than the bodies under Tony Soprano's landfills.

Posted by: RM at May 21, 2010 06:05 PM (1kwr2)

99 and some of you insist on being Simon ficking Cowell???

Dawg. Dawg. So yo dawg, there's some good stuff. So you started, it was a little weird for me, but you know what? Way to start it off. It was alright, alright.

Posted by: Randy Jackson at May 21, 2010 06:05 PM (IhHdM)

100 That's not Jan Brewer, that's a Taco Bell Gordita Cruch - crunchy, chewy, cheesy, melty.
That Taco Bell Rodent Dog was taken out by that Epic Arizona Frog. It was "sniff" a beautiful thing to watch.

Posted by: mpfs, has a case of the vapors. at May 21, 2010 06:06 PM (iYbLN)

101 well put, ace.

Posted by: gomm at May 21, 2010 06:06 PM (EA+Co)

102 Already O/T, but... I can't help but note the bitter irony of reading comprehension when going back to the last quibble about Rand Paul and what he "supposedly" said. Was a good smack back by morons.

Posted by: Nonparsing parser at May 21, 2010 06:08 PM (gbCNS)

103 Been lots of talk here about mainstream GOP, some of it from me. I don't like them or their soft-statist attitudes. I don't like it at all.

But this new respect for border control has me wondering where on the Drew M. mainstream GOP scale, from GWB(100) to Rand Paul(0), do Gov Brewer and the border firsters now belong?

Posted by: dr kill at May 21, 2010 06:10 PM (w9bVp)

104 102 Already O/T, but... I can't help but note the bitter irony of reading comprehension when going back to the last quibble about Rand Paul and what he "supposedly" said. Was a good smack back by morons.
Posted by: Nonparsing parser at May 21, 2010 06:08 PM (gbCNS)

Watch yourself! Complaints about reading comprehension apparently are considered "homophobic" round these here parts....

Posted by: NJ(Lying)Conservative at May 21, 2010 06:11 PM (VmtE9)

105 And there's more. Anchor babies, be gone.

Posted by: incognito at May 21, 2010 06:11 PM (u6X4c)

106 Thecitizens of border states are suffering, and the POTUS is knowingly keeping us at risk.
I mean, what do you do with that information?
The federal government is acting against the citizenry of the United States.

Posted by: Who knows at May 21, 2010 06:12 PM (7FgWm)

107 It's ten fucking pages!

Posted by: Darth Rove at May 21, 2010 06:13 PM (GfYt/)

108 And there's more. Anchor babies, be gone.
OMG!
And....uuuuuhhhhhnnnnngngggggghhhhhhh...oh yeah...whew!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:13 PM (P33XN)

109 Barack Hussein Obama and the Progs are so dreamy---------

for me to poop on !11!!!!1!!11

Posted by: Triumph the insult comic dog at May 21, 2010 06:13 PM (w9bVp)

110 Still wondering when the transmission lines circuit interrupters feeding CA will opened? Can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: sTevo at May 21, 2010 06:14 PM (zIUsq)

111 >>>well put, ace.
Posted by: gomm

Thanks for the obligatory Ace Ass-Kiss. Your job is done here. See you in Ace's next post.

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:14 PM (9X3KM)

112 If Pearce pushes a bill on anchor babies and it passes and Brewer signs it, the Left will go fucking beserk.
Expect violence from the La Raza crowd.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:17 PM (P33XN)

113 OT stuff stolen from the interwebs:

The US Manufacturing sector lost tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs last month. The number of mass layoffs by U.S. employers rose in April led by manufacturers who shed workers even as the economy began to recover.The number of mass layoffs in the manufacturing sector totaled 448 resulting in 63,616 initial jobless benefit claims, the department said. That was more than 24,000 higher than the previous month, but well below the 125,000 initial jobless claims in the manufacturing sector a year ago. At least 66,000 new government jobs were saved or created by the government last month for census work. They are temporary jobs.Democrats spent $1.6 Billion in stimulus cash creating jobs in China last year. Does that count?Meanwhile, Texas created 32,500 in April. Texas employers have added 79,000 jobs since the beginning of 2010 and more Texans are employed than ever before with a total of 11.2 million workers, according to the release.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 21, 2010 06:19 PM (7VvJB)

114 it's worth noting here that secty of homeland security napolitano was both a former atty genl & gov of arizona and supported better law enforcement! of course, she's totally ignoring the current gov trying to beef up border security. bizarre.

Posted by: gomm at May 21, 2010 06:21 PM (7JES6)

115 Posted by: Mr Whoopi

Poor bastard . Is she as ugly as she appears to be in real life ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at May 21, 2010 06:22 PM (a9UO0)

116 Rand Paul just backed out of MTP.

He backed out of an interview with Mister Softie himself, Dancing Dave? It's the only place he SHOULD have gone other than FoxNews! Good fucking grief. Who in hell is running that ship? It's the Exxon Valdez crashing into Deepwater Horizon.

Lefties start linking Sue Lowden to Rand Paul on "chickens" in 10...9...8...

Posted by: Oh Noes! at May 21, 2010 06:23 PM (zfRju)

117 If Pearce pushes a bill on anchor babies and it passes and Brewer signs it, the Left will go fucking beserk.I know ... isn't that delicious. I love seeing lefty heads explode.


Expect violence from the La Raza crowd.
Expecting it. It will be great for the Nation to see their true colors.


Anchor babies cost our nation $3.7 billion in 2007. Looking for newer figures but I am sure it is much more now. I have a friend who was against the AZ law until I explained how much it cost our state alone and how we have more illegal aliens here in the state than our entire military.

Posted by: incognito at May 21, 2010 06:23 PM (u6X4c)

118 Meanwhile, Texas created 32,500
in April. Texas employers have added 79,000 jobs since the beginning of
2010 and more Texans are employed than ever before with a total of 11.2
million workers, according to the release.

I have a small denomination bet with the wife that Texas will be the first state to leave the Union. Also, that the Feds would slap a (non-virtual) fence around that entire state faster than the FLOTUS can wolf down a non-salted, free-range chicken wing.

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 21, 2010 06:25 PM (IhHdM)

119 @116
heh

Posted by: Y-not at May 21, 2010 06:26 PM (Kn9r7)

120 Joe Biden can say anything and get away with it.

03/15/09
""We're not just creating jobs and putting paychecks in somebody's pocket," Biden said in Cincinnati during a fundraising appearance for Rep. Steve Driehaus, D-Ohio. "Every bit of this money gets pumped back into the economy.""

04/24/09
"Vice President Joe Biden on Friday predicted the U.S. economy would add as many as 200,000 jobs next month, and 250,000 to 500,000 a month beginning this summer.

Citing "good planning" by the Obama administration's economic stewardship during the recession..."

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:26 PM (ouySy)

121 Ann Coulter accurately hit the point about predictions, so I won't speak in numbers. But a major beatdown is coming. Unexpected and historic.
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 21, 2010 04:55 PM (IhHdM)
I'm your ball, man. Ann channels me.

Posted by: Crystal Lucille Ball at May 21, 2010 06:27 PM (gbCNS)

122
Why is it that the people with ovaries have more balls than the people that actually have balls in the GOP?

Posted by: RarestRX at May 21, 2010 06:29 PM (rmNST)

123 04/24/09

"Vice President Joe Biden on Friday predicted the U.S. economy would add
as many as 200,000 jobs next month, and 250,000 to 500,000 a month
beginning this summer.



Citing "good planning" by the Obama administration's economic
stewardship during the recession..."

Math is hard. Reaching into my ass to pull out talking points comes naturally

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 21, 2010 06:30 PM (sYxEE)

124 What the fuck is it with these libs? Rabidly supportive of a health care bill they didn't read, and now rabidly opposed to a border-security bill they also didn't read. The only two conclusions I can draw: 1) libs/dems don't read, and 2) libs/dems are rabid.

Posted by: Socrates at May 21, 2010 06:30 PM (raqqC)

125
Biden says that shit at fundraisers and campaign rallies. Talk about jerking off your audience...

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:31 PM (ouySy)

126 Unlike Ace, I don't believe they have read the bill. Why read it and then have to lie about it when you can just not read it?
You say that like you think they actually mind lying...
Whether they have actually read all 10 pages line by line or not, they know what it says.
If they could point to the bad part, they would.
Since there isn't really a bad part, they claim "I haven't read it, but I hear it's bad" and presto they have anexcuse for claiming all sorts of crap.
Now instead of having the conservatives and/or Republicans only angry about them bad-mouthing the law, now we're spending lots of time and energy fussing about reading and the lack there of.
I love the ad, I just think the reading/not reading issue is a distraction. A purposeful distraction, that is.

Well, I'm off to sit in the hot sun for a couple hours. I'm smiling about it on the inside...really.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 21, 2010 06:32 PM (XdlcF)

127 Why is it that the people with ovaries have more balls than the people that actually have balls in the GOP?
Posted by: RarestRX at May 21, 2010 06:29 PM (rmNST)

Well except in NJ now a days.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 21, 2010 06:32 PM (0GFWk)

128 mr. whoopi:

i can be devastating in my critiques of thisn here site and am happy to give a compliment. i'd point out, too, that a few years ago a launched a coup de blog which met a rather ignominious and bloody end, but i'd rather not go into that.

so you sit on the sidelines and carp. tough guy.

Posted by: gomm at May 21, 2010 06:33 PM (73jUp)

129 Well except in NJ now a days.
Ovaries, Moobs, whatever...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 21, 2010 06:35 PM (Vpoel)

130
And you also win the Ace ofSpades HQ Award For Lack of Humor, gomm. Well done!

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:36 PM (ouySy)

131 FagHagSpeakerPuppehtOFF!

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2010 06:36 PM (Vpoel)

132 Something tells me that if Texas secedes and forms their own nation, the number of illegal aliens there will drop to zero.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:37 PM (P33XN)

133
haha @ John McCain joining the anti-Calderon bandwagon. Anyone have a clip of this brave maverick?

Posted by: Mr Whoopi at May 21, 2010 06:38 PM (ouySy)

134 Hey, look! St. John the McCain being a simple-minded antelope!
Must be a day that ends in a "y".
*checks calendar*
Yup.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 06:38 PM (kmEfr)

135 So RaPaul just cancelled from Meet The Press because...because he's planning on being too exhausted from the big rally in Kentucky Saturday night.

Just a sampling from the readers' comments at Right Now (Dave Weigel) on the Post:

"What a gutless little pussy. Just the guy Kentuckians should want to represent them in the Senate."

"What a gutless little worm. Just the kind of "man" Kentuckians would want representing them in the Senate -- NOT"

"That boy's just not right."

"Not exactly a "Profile in Courage," is he?"

"Boy, Randpaulooza just keeps giving and giving"

"Rand Paul is an airhead. Why can't anyone in the press just take his ideas, one by one, and show how preposterous they are. This is not a Right or Left sort of thing. It is about how you can't govern America with Stupid ideas."

"Aww... He's "TIRED""

"This guy is a coward! He won't even stand up and defend his racist views. He's not fit to hold public office."

"How 'unAmerican'"


It gets worse. Those are some of the more positive ones.

Posted by: Rand Paul's Randitionalizaitons at May 21, 2010 06:40 PM (zfRju)

136 Why is it that the people with ovaries have more balls than the people that actually have balls in the GOP?
Posted by: RarestRX at May 21, 2010 06:29 PM (rmNST)

Soy. Or insecticides. Or feminism. I forget.

Posted by: huerfano at May 21, 2010 06:40 PM (Updet)

137 haha @ John McCain joining the anti-Calderon bandwagon. Anyone have a clip of this brave maverick?
Hell, I'm not just jumping on the bandwagon. I'm supporting legislation requiring Senor Calderonto grab a hammer and nails andto build a fuggin' fence himself while I hold a gun to his head.
Vote McCain in 2010!

Posted by: John McCain at May 21, 2010 06:40 PM (P33XN)

138 But mouthing vague quibbles about procedural issues gets them goodwill from the 30% who oppose the bill, aka "The Democratic Base."
Their concerns may be vague but they are fierce and sladerous.

Posted by: Randy at May 21, 2010 06:47 PM (zQKSr)

139 Just because you can't comprehend the three dimensional chess that the Delicate Genius is playing doesn't mean his concerns are not legitimate. Democrats are right to be concerned that time is running short to manufacture an immigration "crisis" in order to fast track amnesty before the November elections so they can count on those 12 -15 million new votes. I just hope the ballots are printed bilingually....

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at May 21, 2010 06:49 PM (Dzahn)

140 Man, McClintock's beatdown of Pepe Caulderon was epic. That needs to be propelled into viral status.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 21, 2010 06:51 PM (554T5)

141 Soy. Or insecticides. Or feminism. I forget.
Posted by: huerfano at May 21, 2010 06:40 PM (Updet)
Pussywhipped is a good summation.

Posted by: Crystal Lucille Ball at May 21, 2010 06:52 PM (gbCNS)

142 It gets worse. Those are some of the more positive ones.
Buck up, little flower. We're not here because we want to be loved/

Posted by: spongeworthy at May 21, 2010 06:53 PM (rplL3)

143 Wow ... have you heard of Tony Katz? He's a radio host and I heard he was helping buycott AZ. So I sent an email with my company's info figuring "why not?" I just got a call from someone in another state who wants my company's service. Whoo Hoo!

Posted by: incognito at May 21, 2010 06:54 PM (u6X4c)

144 Ace: "Of course they've all read the law -- it's ten pages. Claiming to have
not read it allows them to speak of vaguely-defined 'concerns' without
having to point out specific language in the bill they object to --
because if they did the latter, they'd be unable to find anything
illegal here."

Finally, someone yanks the cover off. The absurdity that The Precedent and his underlings didn't read this law, especially after the heat Holder got for his disingenuous evasions, was patently offensive. These Progressives think that it's better to appear incompetent in public rather than defend their position. That's all you need to know that it's a game of salesmanship. These people are evil scum.

If the Democrats had law on their side, they'd be waving it around like they wave bills in front of a hooker. They'd be sellers in a sellers' market. Alas, they're only selling BS in a buyer's market. An overwhelming majority of citizens isn't buying, and it doesn't take the PC confusion of "gee, why haven't they read this?" misdirection to understand why. Their behavior is an acknowledgment that the law trumps their rhetoric. What the Democrats/Progressives are counting on is stagecraft.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 21, 2010 06:55 PM (swuwV)

145 I think the significance of calderon's speech to the American People in OUR house shows just how far down the road we are with the break up of ourcountry as we know it. The arrogance of O blah blah AND Calderon is bordering dictatorship at this point. Fuckin time to fuckin lock and load!

Posted by: sonnyspats at May 21, 2010 06:56 PM (68tQb)

146 66 It was hot, dusty, barren...I was patrolling the Mexico/US border with just my wits to protect me...when all of sudden a frightening site appeared in my rear view mirror. An Arizona Frog Puppet. I'd heard the stories but nothing prepared me for the face to frog horror. The amphibian fought like a wild man but just my luck I remembered I had a spork in my pocket from Katie's Diner in Scranton. I took that bastard down, down to Scrantontown!
Posted by: Joe "Frog Killer" Biden at May 21, 2010 05:17 PM (iYbLN)
I was right there. Shoulder to shoulder with Joe Biden. People spit on us.
Posted by: Sgt. Blumenthall at May 21, 2010 05:24 PM (xxgag)

AND dont forget there were those snipers firing at us, we had to use a pizza box over our head for cover run!

Posted by: Hildabeast R. Clinton at May 21, 2010 07:01 PM (Ie0Es)

147 Jan Brewer's approval ratings are at what... 85% now? Up 30 points in the past month? And citizens around the country are rallying more to AZ's side despite empty show-boycotts.

Yeah, she's not backing down. Thanks, Nancy!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 21, 2010 07:01 PM (swuwV)

148 Isn't that theMexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka ?
Don't look Ned !

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at May 21, 2010 07:03 PM (dCjum)

149 Ace I wasn't around for a couple of days and I've come back to Ace and company on fire. I know you guys think they read the law....I always thought they were telling the truth...they didn't bother to read it cause they planned to denigrate and minimize it....and wholly ignore it....

funny though, the American people won't let them ignore it...

What is so incredibly funny is that there has been so much name calling and labeling that it has had the reverse effect. You see, you have been programmed to not want to be called a racist, to not want to be called a loyal proud American and you were expected to shrink from this kind of stuff and run and hide so that no one will call you names....but..."the sticks and stones mentality" has kicked in....people feel it is more important to speak out and not to worry about the names...more and more people...every day....like 70% want the borders closed and the immigration laws inforced...and hmm....that must include some of the 52% who elected this guy....oh what a conundrum they have now....what to do, what to do.....


Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:03 PM (p302b)

150 I'm not from AZ, but I sent Jan B. a warm email, telling her that some of us here in CA stand applaud her.

Posted by: Say What? at May 21, 2010 07:04 PM (Ie0Es)

151 The thing that got Obama elected is the same thing that is his Achillle's heel.
His belief that he is "the one that people have been waiting for". And therefore, he is as infallible as the Pope.
His first error, and it is common to many in his party and followers, is the belief that only the MSM (re: MFM) is the conduit of information to the unwashed. Therefore, as long as he receives his weekly/daily tongue bath, all is right with the world.
There is a great deal of animosity building regarding the whole Arizona debacle the is not being tapped into by the MFM, because they do not wish to expose this. Just today, a co-worker much younger than me expressed quiet outrage at Calderone's epic rant to a joint session of Congress. People are mad, and not in a good way, about this. And so who really cares if Rand Paul shows up on MTP, and what the political rump of this country thinks?
David Gregory is boot-licking political tramp,as are almost all the people that work for NBC news. I haven't watched MTP in years (since Tim Russert died) for more than about 5 minutes at a time, to convince me that Gregory is worthless.

Posted by: Reader CJ Burch says... at May 21, 2010 07:06 PM (sJTmU)

152 oh and I think it is so funny that a Californian would be the one to dress down felipe and his bud BO.....if you listen to the MSM you would think every Californian to a man was horrified by the law....guess not...

McClintok made one heck of a statement....succinct, clear, to the point and not too long....(didn't he get the memo that you are supposed to drag on be unclear and revel in hearing yourself talk?)

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:06 PM (p302b)

153 Incognito @ 143. Thanks for the heads-up on Tony Katz's show. I just sent an email about my business...will see what happens. Regardless, it's pretty gratifying to see all the support out there for us Desert Rats.

Posted by: Jakeman at May 21, 2010 07:16 PM (8QmEC)

154 Spongeworthy @ 142:

That's square on target. What's maybe most disturbing on this cancellation and what led up to it is that he actually started with three lefthanders, at lefty NPR, then on leftier Maddow and then on to a former Clinton White House aide, apparently thinking either that lefties would throw him batting practice (D'UH!), or that a rookie could handle whatever they could throw.

And THEN he finally cancels where he might have started, on the show even Vice President Cheney's office called the most reliable place for "getting the message out" there is, Meet The Press -- leaving a bad smell from the cojones region. That was actually one place, maybe not "the" place, to get back on track. How exactly could it have got worse there -- except by cancelling in a way that everyone in the universe gets to find out about.

Yet it DOES get worse, when his spokesman uses the "exhausted" line, with that same universe knowing he's the star attraction at the Rand Paul Love In this weekend. He at least could have said he owed it to his supporters in the Bluegrass State and arranged for a rain check.

And why do I get the feeling McConnell's wearing an I-told-you-so smirk? Because Ace and company and so many commenting here have been making this exact call for months.

Posted by: Rand Paul's Randitionalizaitons at May 21, 2010 07:17 PM (zfRju)

155 A few B-52's making carpet bombing runs at unannounced times would slow the invasionby the criminals.

Posted by: Scrapiron at May 21, 2010 07:17 PM (1kwr2)

156 Until Austin lifts its boycott, I will do ALL my shopping outside the city limits. Not hard to do, at all.
Fuck you, and your friends, Mayor Leffingwell.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at May 21, 2010 07:25 PM (dQdrY)

157 Jan Brewer has a pair of brass low-hangers, and is better equipped with testicular fortitude than Hussein Obama, the woefully inadequate buffoon occupying the people's house.

Posted by: Fish at May 21, 2010 07:27 PM (M5t+h)

158 I think Rand Paul is doing a great job of keeping his name in the news cycle...
He'll be going on "meet the depressed"......but hey he gets more play from canceling....let em talk and talk and talk...my dad used to say "talk is cheap"....

Maybe he tested the waters and learned something....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:27 PM (p302b)

159 Rand Paul could still win, maybe easily. So far the mfm and blogosphere alike keep referring to his opposition as "his opponent". That reminds me of the way the Harlem Globetrotters kept all the attention on themselves and off that they weren't playing serious basketball: they played 'their opponents" (When I saw the, it was the "Washington Nationals". That explains a lot).

So it appears "his opponent' is approximately as memorable as discarded asswipe. That's got to be a hopeful sign. He should keep it that way; get Kentucky in a patriotic fit of states' rights.

Posted by: Shooter at May 21, 2010 07:27 PM (zfRju)

160 You know who else supports Jan Brewer? Sarah Palin. Jan Brewer is on the right side of history as is Palin. Get a load of this. Sarah Palin Holding All the Cards in 2012 Electoral College Battle for Presidency! http://tinyurl.com/26t5x2s

Posted by: RushBabe at May 21, 2010 07:28 PM (W8m8i)

161 I'm starting to think that I'm going to support anyone who isn't a complete idiot who is willing to stand up for the American people....seems so many people have lost their tongue maybe we should be beginning to prize those who find their voice and have the unmitigated courage to use it....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:30 PM (p302b)

162 why isn't someone saying to them..."now you did it, now you got the women angry....and you know what that means, they won't quit, they play for keeps, they are seriously scary, they can't be pushed around like men, they won't compromise, gotta be the hormones, gotta be menopause.....ugh...why did you do this, you unleashed a sleeping giant....the women"

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:34 PM (p302b)

163 O/T: that picture on drudge, of the guy with his face covered with oil....that's not a good idea....oil is a very toxic substance....that was truly a dumb move

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:36 PM (p302b)

164 So where is the standing ovation for McClintock's speech...oh yea,I forgot this is a lefty liberal administration...they probably took McClintock out back after his speechto be waterboardedand thento a sensitivity/diversity class!

Posted by: Liberty or Death at May 21, 2010 07:39 PM (zb0kD)

165 Why was Kermit smiling?
He just porked Miss Piggy.
He wasn't run over by a drunk-driving illegal.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 21, 2010 07:40 PM (7b1Uc)

166 On the day of my election, I will pull all American troops out of the war. From there, I'll order bombs to be strapped to all the illegal aliens in America who will then be sent over to Middle East to finish the job.

Posted by: Ron Paul at May 21, 2010 07:41 PM (qs11W)

167
What's green and smells like Miss Piggy?

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 07:41 PM (PaMcq)

168
Sheryl Crow

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 07:42 PM (PaMcq)

169 Heard rumors that the wives were there for the felipe/B love fest..


Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 07:43 PM (p302b)

170 #167 Fred
Ring Ring. Ring Ring.
Kermit: Hello? Miss Piggy? She's here, but she can't come to the phone right now. She has a frog in her throat.

Posted by: motionview at May 21, 2010 07:49 PM (wrAuQ)

171
-- What they're attempting to do is claim they support, of course, the substance of course they agree with enforcing the border!
-- while pretending their objection is over procedural matters.

Actually I don't think they are that nuanced about this matter. They actually have become so arrogant, and so convinced that the country is brimming with people like the Mayor of L.A. and San Francisco, when it is actually filled with about 70% of us that are pissed and disgusted by this intransigence about protecting the American people.

What with that guy from the DOJ today saying they just might not take any illegals turned over to ICE in Arizona...what the fuck! And just before that the idiot from the State Dept trolling bait to the Chinese about what a racist scumbag state is Arizona. Trying to kiss their ass right though their pants. This is getting very close to treason IMO. All that has to happen pretty soon is for some disastrous attack on Americans that is traced to coming over that southern border, and Obama can kiss his ass goodbye, as well as the Dems for 12 years at least.

I am not wishing for such an attack but I have a strong belief this is out of our hands now, and God is now on the stage, nobody sets up a trap for the arrogant like God. Now all of America is looking, He has our attention, and I think the curtain is about to go up, when He is done I think we will witness the end of American liberalism, and we can thank God for that, the world can thank God.

The stuff going on in Europe is part and parcel and peculiarly timed for me to think it is coincidence. We are literally watching the utter failure of socialism in Europe, and it is happening so fast, but not a moment too soon.

Posted by: Jehu at May 21, 2010 07:50 PM (nbwOA)

172 Republican women rock!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 07:50 PM (RZ8pf)

173 Holy Shit!
The Arizonans have fired on Fort Sumpter!
(and that's not much of an exaggeration...)

Posted by: Warthog at May 21, 2010 07:50 PM (Tth3R)

174
hahaha it's funny to imagine Kermit getting a bj

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 07:52 PM (PaMcq)

175
[I shit you not]This weekend Obama is gonna meet with thousands of Muslims to discuss bias against Muslims and how the US govt can 'raise awareness' and 'educate' people about Islam.[/I shit you not]

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 07:55 PM (PaMcq)

176 This reminds me of the time I saw a talking green frog in 'Nam.

(aide whispers to him that there aren't actually any green frogs in Vietnam)

Did I saw frogs? I meant pandas. Yeah. Pandas. Lots of fucking talking pandas in 'Nam man...

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at May 21, 2010 07:57 PM (jr7Cb)

177
You'd think the muthafuckin muslims would be meeting with Obama to condemn terrorism and pledge their support in stopping terrorism committed by other muslims in the United States...
that's what you'd think.
BUT YOU BE FUCKING WRONG BECAUSE WE LIVE IN BIZARRO UNIVERSE
/gus mode off

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 07:58 PM (PaMcq)

178 All politics are local...who cares what commie media says....focus on Kentucky.....get rid of birds nest hairdo. win win


Posted by: non_dhimmie at May 21, 2010 07:58 PM (zACGu)

179 And there's more. Anchor babies, be gone.



ANCHORS AWAY!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 07:58 PM (CfmlF)

180 Groucho Marx sums up the Democrat's view of the Arizona law,

http://tinyurl.com/ate9eo

Posted by: McCroak the Border Frog at May 21, 2010 07:59 PM (nqCRm)

181
Something tells me that if Texas secedes and forms their own nation, the
number of illegal aliens there will drop to zero.
Might take a day or two, but yep.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 21, 2010 07:59 PM (iBTj9)

182 ... and how the US govt can 'raise awareness' and
'educate' people about Islam.

We already have that program. It's called the terror alert level.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 21, 2010 08:01 PM (iBTj9)

183 Hey, if losing the White House and congress is what it took to truly energize the GOP about immigration, well, then it was worth it. Because the GOP certainly sat on its thumbs for 8 years of GW Bush's utter failure to enforce the border.

Posted by: ingrid newkirk at May 21, 2010 08:02 PM (fuemy)

184 We are literally watching the utter failure of socialism in Europe, and
it is happening so fast, but not a moment too soon.
And the profoundly pathetic irony is that so many Americans, particularly the young, think socialism is salvation.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 21, 2010 08:02 PM (554T5)

185 SEE HERE, MR. KANSAS CITY LAWFROG - LAW DON'T GO AROUND HERE - SAVVY?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 21, 2010 08:06 PM (T96mB)

186
wow Groucho was a fascinating man.
He was married 3 times -- his last marriage was to a 20-year old...he was 63.

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:06 PM (PaMcq)

187 Incognito @ 143. Thanks for the heads-up on Tony Katz's show. I just
sent an email about my business...will see what happens. Regardless,
it's pretty gratifying to see all the support out there for us Desert
Rats.

No problem, jukebox. This one call is looking like one of the best accounts I've had in years so I am a very happy camper and will be toasting Katz tonight. :-)

Posted by: incognito at May 21, 2010 08:07 PM (u6X4c)

188 The more info people get about this bill, the more support it gets

I'm stunned that Dems continue to take the unpopular position on things, it's like they want to fuck up staying in power

Posted by: YRM at May 21, 2010 08:07 PM (38UQ3)

189 132
Something tells me that if Texas secedes and forms their own nation, the
number of illegal aliens there will drop to zero.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 21, 2010 06:37 PM (P33XN)

I can tell you this for damned certain, I'll be adding at least one new citizen to the new Republic of Texan States...

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 21, 2010 08:09 PM (erIg9)

190 Love the ad! Full of Win!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:09 PM (Acgmr)

191
If I Could Have Supper With Three Famous People
Abraham Lincoln
Groucho Marx
Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:10 PM (PaMcq)

192 McClintock for President

Posted by: Desperate, Eager, Easy Conservative at May 21, 2010 08:10 PM (1fanL)

193 I'm stunned that Dems continue to take the unpopular position on things,
it's like they want to fuck up staying in power

But so far, they've been able to ramrod unpopular legislation and/or executive edicts down our throats with little or no firm opposition. And by firm, I mean "we won't stand for this any longer".

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 21, 2010 08:11 PM (554T5)

194 I can tell you this for damned certain, I'll be adding at least one new
citizen to the new Republic of Texan States...
Count me in, bro.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at May 21, 2010 08:11 PM (554T5)

195 #193 But so far, they've been able to ramrod unpopular legislation and/or
executive edicts down our throats with little or no firm opposition. And by firm, I mean "we won't stand for this
any longer".
Indeed. The line must hold somewhere. I pray to Gaia that it's soon.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:14 PM (Acgmr)

196 Too bad Gov. Perry does not have the spine to step up.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:14 PM (dQdrY)

197 When it comes to border security, the Democrats are the party of No.

Posted by: McCroak the Border Frog at May 21, 2010 08:14 PM (nqCRm)

198 If I
Could Have Supper With Three Famous People
Abraham Lincoln
Groucho Marx
Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:10 PM
(PaMcq)
Fag.Brigitte BardotAudrey HepburnVida Guerra

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:15 PM (1fanL)

Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:15 PM (Pcx0m)

200
What would you talk about with them?
I'd rather spend an evening with the men.

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:17 PM (PaMcq)

201 199



Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:15 PM (Pcx0m)

Cat got your tongue?

Posted by: McCroak the Border Frog at May 21, 2010 08:17 PM (nqCRm)

202 What would you talk about with them?
I'd rather spend an evening with the men.

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:17 PM
(PaMcq)
Talk?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:19 PM (1fanL)

203 Patrick Henry
The Apostle Paul
Louis the 14th.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at May 21, 2010 08:19 PM (dQdrY)

204

Dear Senor Calderon,



Take your worthless ass back to the craphole you are el Presidente of
that is so bad that 25% of your nationals have fled it and when you fix
it up so that more Americans are going into Mexico illegally than there
are Mexicans going into America illegally then we can talk.



Best wishes for your recovery.


Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:20 PM (Pcx0m)

205 Calderon is a Harvard grad, you know.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (dQdrY)

206 It was pretty quiet on some of the blogs after HC passed. People were shocked and saddened and they had to collect themselves. Little by little as the details of the bill unfold and the people who really need it find out they aren't getting it then we will really have some angry people. anyway....think people really didn't know what to do after that and many are afraid to comment since the DHS has mislabeled who are the terraists....but perhaps people have realized that they have to speak up now....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (p302b)

207 Patrick Henry
The Apostle Paul
Louis the 14th.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at May 21, 2010 08:19 PM (dQdrY)
Fag.Helen of Troy
CleopatraMarie Antoinette

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (1fanL)

208 YRM: "I'm stunned that Dems continue to take the unpopular
position on things, it's like they want to fuck up staying in power"

This is a consequence of Ratcheting Liberalism. When the Left sets a precedent, the Right has been unwilling to set the ratchet back and rather readily accepts the new status quo. It's incumbent on the Right to ratchet back.

Government grows. Always. The Founders knew this and right ultimately fails when the Right doesn't aggressively fight back. I don't think the Right has been aggressive enough for many generations now.

Getting bounced out of power in our democracy is temporal and the Left exploits this. They know they'll be back and just aim to leave a stronger legacy of invasive, anti-Libertarian structure while they're in so that when they return, the next floor can be appended. That's our current best case scenario. The worst case is that they actually impose stuff now -- which is where we are.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (swuwV)

209 205
Calderon is a Harvard grad, you know.

Let's see the transcripts!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:22 PM (Acgmr)

210 He was married 3 times -- his last marriage was to
a 20-year old...he was 63.

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:06 PM
(PaMcq)
What would they talk about?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:22 PM (1fanL)

211 Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:22 PM (1fanL)

when you are 63 and you marry someone 20....everybody knows its all for the sex....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:24 PM (p302b)

212 Calderon is a Harvard grad, you know.
Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (dQdrY)
WTF? did he have an interpretor or is graduating from Harvard now easier than a state college?

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:24 PM (fwSHf)

213 #210 What would they talk about?
The meaning of life?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:25 PM (Acgmr)

214
Eleanor Roosevelt
Pocohontas
Calamity Jane
Better?

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:25 PM (PaMcq)

215 Like rats relentlessly gnawing through concrete, the lib/prog/soc/com Democrats will never give up on their goal of domination.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 08:25 PM (nqCRm)

216 when you are 63 and you marry someone 20....everybody
knows its all for the sex....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:24 PM (p302b)
Except the poor 20 year old.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:25 PM (1fanL)

217 This is a battle of civilizations. We thought we faced this on 9/11. True, however we have a more pressing skirmish to attend to here at home.
If Obama and Soros are victorious, its over. We'll be third world in 50 years. Mexico in 25.
These people are SICK. They are intentionally pouring shit on a clean white rug. What the hell motivates these people? Jesus fucking christ
These millionaires are always marxists. BTW lol did anyone see the Dhali lama (whatever) said he was a marxist? haha his nation was nearly destroyed along with thousands murdered by marxists... he is currently in exile because of communism. Mao personally told him his religion was evil
Are these people just stupid? Do they not see reality in front of their faces?

Posted by: Little Orenthal at May 21, 2010 08:26 PM (9vQ7f)

218 Eleanor Roosevelt
Pocohontas
Calamity Jane
Better?

Posted by: Fred Jones, Scooby Gangmember at May 21, 2010 08:25 PM
(PaMcq)
Eleanor was a hag. Other than that, you have the FUBAR Stamp of Non-Gay Approval.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:26 PM (1fanL)

219
Remember the episode of STAR TREK with ABRAHAM LINCOLN?
He gave some good advice to Kirk, as I recall.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:27 PM (PaMcq)

220 <blockquote>Too bad Gov. Perry does not have the spine to step up.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08</blockquote>

Governor Rick Perry: I did the safe thing. You are in great peril.
Governor Jan Brewer: I don’t think I am.
Governor Rick Perry: Yes, you are. You are in terrible peril.
Governor Jan Brewer: Look, let us both stand up for our states and for America and together face any peril.
Governor Rick Perry: No, it’s too perilous.
Governor Jan Brewer: Look, it’s our duty as Governors and as American leaders to sample a little peril in the service of our states and of America.
Governor Rick Perry: No, we’ve got to find a way to just submit and become Mexico el Norte.
Governor Jan Brewer: Oh, can’t you join with me and let us together face just a little bit of peril for our states and for America?
Governor Rick Perry: No. It’s unhealthy.
Governor Jan Brewer: I bet you’re gay.

Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:27 PM (Pcx0m)

221 "WTF? did he have an interpretor or
is graduating from Harvard now easier than a state college?

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:24 PM (fwSHf)"the grade inflation is frightening. It goes along with the "everybody gets a trophy mentality".....many are valedictorian and salutatorians...they don't know how to fail.....they've never failed...they are the best and the brightest....so, "if you think some havaad prof is going to get away with giving our little johnny or our little suzy anything less than an A well, you got a nice ruckus coming your way...."Failure is very very important in life....learning how to fail gracefully and to learn from failure is what makes people stronger...if you never failed and never have that experience....how can you grow as a person..?

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:27 PM (p302b)

222 Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:21 PM (1fanL)
I don't like women with moustaches.
Queen Boudicca
Elanor of Aquataine
Joan of Arc

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:28 PM (dQdrY)

223 @162: "why isn't someone saying to them..."now you did it, now you got the women angry....and you know what that means, they won't quit, they play for keeps, they are seriously scary, they can't be pushed around like men, they won't compromise, gotta be the hormones, gotta be menopause.....ugh...why did you do this, you unleashed a sleeping giant....the women"
Because "the women" also gave us Carter, Clinton, Bush II, and Obizzle. (Disaster, Meh, Disaster, Disaster).

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:28 PM (kmEfr)

224
I heard the Three Stooges were horn dogs.
They were allegedly banging all those women they cast in their movies and shows.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:29 PM (PaMcq)

225 Charles Martel
Black Jack Pershing
Allen West

Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:29 PM (Pcx0m)

226
How about...
f'n Magellan!...and, let's see, Socrates Aristotle, and Davy Crockett.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:32 PM (PaMcq)

227 curious: "how can you grow as a person..?"

I don't intend to grow as a person. I intend to grow as an affirmative-actioned, subversive asshole.

Posted by: The Precedent et al. at May 21, 2010 08:32 PM (swuwV)

228 ABC news just reported on the "hikers detained in Iran". Those pictures of them and their moms make you cry. Where is the US? Why aren't we demanding that these kids be returned to their families? Sheesh all they did was inadvertently cross the border while hiking for gosh sakes...what does dinner jacket gain by holding on to three american students....?

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:32 PM (p302b)

229
I meant Daniel Boone. The guy from the friggin Alamo.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:33 PM (PaMcq)

230 I'd like to have dinner with the guys who wrote the Mayan calendar. I want to ask them why they stopped at 2012.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:33 PM (p302b)

231 all they did was inadvertently cross the border while hiking

Do you really believe it was inadvertent?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:33 PM (RZ8pf)

232 @184: "And the profoundly pathetic irony is that so many Americans, particularly the young, think socialism is salvation."
Yep, socialism isn't going away anytime soon. Too many people like it way too much. They'll bitch about the cost now and again, but they like those gummint freebies.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:33 PM (kmEfr)

233 Why aren't we demanding that these kids be returned to their families?
Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:32 PM (p302b)
They're from Berkley

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:34 PM (fwSHf)

234
General Custer
Benedict Arnold
Napolean

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:34 PM (PaMcq)

235 Those hikers acted stupidly. Their moms raised then stupidly.
- Emperor Hussein

Posted by: FeralCat at May 21, 2010 08:35 PM (Pcx0m)

236 #232 Yep, socialism isn't going away anytime soon. Too many people like it
way too much. They'll bitch about the cost now and again, but they like
those gummint freebies.

Too bad everyone's broke.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:35 PM (Acgmr)

237 Pre-wheelchair Annette Funicello

Shirtless Lee Marvin

Teenage Shirley Temple

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 21, 2010 08:35 PM (wd0Iq)

238 "231
all they
did was inadvertently cross the border while hiking

Do you
really believe it was inadvertent?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:33 PM (RZ8pf)"Yep, I really believe it was inadvertent. I know plenty of kids like that. Liberal, wanting to go out and see the world, foreign countries, like MO said at the commencement speech she gave. This is starting to look like the hostage crisis that Carter faced.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (p302b)

239 ...what does dinner jacket gain by holding on to three american
students....?

He's rubbing the Great Satan's nose in it.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (nqCRm)

240 Just released video of Rand Paul cancelling on Meet The Press: http://tiny.cc/xn23u

Note how Rachel Maddow finally let that beard grow.

Posted by: Arthur Pendragon III at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (zfRju)

241
yeah, it's a given you'd be having dinner with them at their prime -- it's part of the Having Dinner With Famous People In History rules.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (PaMcq)

242 Anyone from Berkley must be suspected of being collaborators.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:37 PM (dQdrY)

243 I know plenty of kids like that. Liberal, wanting to go out and see the world, foreign countries, like MO said at the commencement speech she gave. This is starting to look like the hostage crisis that Carter faced.
Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (p302b)
The Carter hostages weren't from Berkley, keep quiet about it.

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:38 PM (fwSHf)

244 @195: "The line must hold somewhere."
Oh, it will. The GOP's "line" is precisely 1/100th of one angstrom to the right of the most fevered masturbatory dream of the most wild-eyed leftist. That's where they'll hold. Well, they're open to reaching across the aisle at that point, but seriously, they'll never go beyond 1/1000th. Probably. Unless it's "for the children" or some such shit. So, 1/10,000th then. Cast in stone. Unless, of course.....

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:38 PM (kmEfr)

245 "242
Anyone from Berkley must be suspected of being collaborators.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:37 PM (dQdrY)"hahha I thought just the opposite....liberal dorks....seriously, if you were the sea aye yay...would you recruit from there? dinner jacket isn't doing his homework....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:38 PM (p302b)

246 242
Anyone from Berkley must be suspected of being collaborators.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:37 PM (dQdrY)

I just automatically assume they are.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 21, 2010 08:39 PM (erIg9)

247 If
I
Could Have Supper With Three Famous PeopleMark TwainWinston ChurchillRacquel Welch

Posted by: ontherocks at May 21, 2010 08:41 PM (HBqDo)

248 C'mon ONT !

Posted by: That guy that calls for the ONT at May 21, 2010 08:42 PM (e9JZd)

249 @217: "These millionaires are always marxists.... Are these people just stupid? Do they not see reality in front of their faces?"
Never trustthe wealthy and successful: they do not seek company.
-Dogbert

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:42 PM (kmEfr)

250 Liberal, wanting to go out and see
the world, foreign countries, like MO said at the commencement speech
she gave. This is starting to look like the hostage crisis that Carter
faced.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:36 PM (p302b)
The longer they're held, the more likely they'll be conservative if they are released. Let 'em stay and learn the ways of the world a little longer.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:43 PM (1fanL)

251 My favorite line from the Muppet Movie:
"Bear left, bear left!"
"Right, Frog!"

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:43 PM (CfmlF)

252
no love for Mae West? She'd be interesting. And might give her a handjob under the table.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:43 PM (PaMcq)

253 These millionaires are always marxists.
Are these people just stupid? Do they not see reality in front of
their faces?

Posted by: Little Orenthal at May 21, 2010 08:26 PM (9vQ7f)
Not stupid, smart. They're pulling the ladder up behind them.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:44 PM (1fanL)

254 European lefties go over and get themselves "kidnapped" knowing they will be helping terrorists finance their operations with the ransom money the lame EU governments always pay.
They are just as much the enemy as the jihadis.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:44 PM (dQdrY)

255 Barry Bonds
Will Smith
Cuba Gooding Jr.

Posted by: Mr. 1996 at May 21, 2010 08:45 PM (wOtDN)

256 @236: "Too bad everyone's broke."
Then the masses must sacrifice for the good of the state.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:45 PM (kmEfr)

257 The longer they're held, the more likely they'll be conservative if they are released. Let 'em stay and learn the ways of the world a little longer.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:43 PM (1fanL)
I don't know why anyone is worried about these people. Do we have a recruitment office we need some libtards chained to or something?

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:45 PM (fwSHf)

258 no love for Mae West? She'd be interesting. And
might give her a handjob under the table.

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:43 PM (PaMcq)
I always suspected that she might have a dick.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:45 PM (1fanL)

259
that didn't come out exactly the way I intended

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:46 PM (PaMcq)

260 @231: "all they did was inadvertently cross the border while hiking

Do you really believe it was inadvertent?"

---------------------------

Yep, they're Americans. They've been taught to believe that borders don't really matter.....

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:47 PM (kmEfr)

261 A friend of mine, guy in his twenties is obsessed with Audrey Hepburn...

You can't go over to see him without watching one of her movies.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:47 PM (p302b)

262 Oh, and as to those hikers in Iran, Outside Mag. did an article on them recently. They were all super leftylibtards, for amnesty, pro-Palestinian, anti-capitalist, etc. They weren't that young either--they were well into their 20's almost 30 I think. Anyways, my take is that once Obama got elected, they thought they could just go into Iran and talk to people and let them know that things had changed. The evil Bush was gone, and they could trust us. I think it was a combination of stupidity, naiavety, and hubris that got them in the situation they found themselves in.Supposedly, they were going by an old map as they had given their guidebook to another friend. Even though the border was unmarked, one of the border guards warned them about this and advised them not to go where they planned. I think they did it on purpose. We may never know, and I could be wrong, but something just didn't pass the sniff test.

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:47 PM (CfmlF)

263 XXXtina as a teen
Britney as a teen
Madonna as a teen

We could eat at the Y.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:48 PM (1fanL)

264
if you were Mr 1986...
Mr T
Eddie Murphy
and, um, Mr T

Posted by: Scoobwing Plover at May 21, 2010 08:48 PM (PaMcq)

265 #260 Yep,
they're Americans. They've been taught to believe that borders don't
really matter.....
And that their leftism will shield them from really bad decisions.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:48 PM (Acgmr)

266 Three men from history: Socrates, Newton, Einstein.

Three women from history: Cleopatra, Marie Antoinette, Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (nqCRm)

267 What about that woman that was going to hitchike across the Middle East in a wedding gown to show tolerance. Has she made it back yet?

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (veaqz)

268
A friend of mine, guy in his twenties is obsessed with Audrey Hepburn...You
can't go over to see him without watching one of her movies.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:47 PM (p302b)
She was absolutely smokin'. I've watched movies I'd beat someone's ass for suggesting, just because she was in 'em.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (1fanL)

269
I read it so you don't have to.

Purpose of the Law:
To ensure “the cooperative enforcement of federal immigration laws throughout all of Arizona;”
To “make attrition through enforcement the public policy of all state and local government agencies in Arizona;” and
To “discourage and deter the unlawful entry and presence of aliens and economic activity by persons unlawfully present in the United States.”

What the Law Requires:

1. Cooperation of and assistance by state and local officials in the enforcement of federal immigration laws to “the full extent permitted by federal law.”
* During the course of “any lawful stop, detention, or arrest” made by any state or local law enforcement officer “in the enforcement of any other law or ordinance,” if the officer determines that there is reasonable suspicion that the person is an illegal alien, “a reasonable attempt” shall be made to determine the immigration status of the person by verifying immigration status with the federal government pursuant to federal law (8 U.S.C. 1373(c)).
In determining whether reasonable suspicion that an individual is illegally present, the law specifically prohibits unconstitutional profiling based on “race, color, or national origin in implementing” this section of the law.
The law specifically states that an individual is presumed to be lawfully present if he or she provides a valid Arizona driver’s license or identification card, a valid form of tribal identification, or valid identification issued by any U.S. federal, state, or local entity that requires proof of legal presence as a requirement of issuance.
An individual’s immigration status may be determined ONLY by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Customs and Border Protection (CBP), or a law enforcement officer authorized by the federal government to make such a determination.

ICE or CBP must be notified any time an illegal alien is released from imprisonment or fined following conviction of a violation of state or local law.

No state agency, county, city, town or other political subdivision of Arizona may enact or enforce a sanctuary policy in violation of federal law (8 U.S.C. 1644).
No official or agency may be prohibited or restricted from communicating with federal authorities for the following official purposes:
1. Determining eligibility for public benefits, services, or licenses;
2. Verifying a claim of residence if such determination is required by law;
3. Determining whether an alien is in compliance with federal registration requirements (8 U.S.C. 1302-1304).
Any legal resident of Arizona may file suit against any official or agency or the state or a political subdivision that enacts or enforces a sanctuary policy in violation of federal law. If the court finds a violation has occurred, the official or agency may be fined (the money would go to the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission Fund) and the person who brought the suit may be awarded court costs and reasonable attorney fees.
2. Compliance with certain federal immigration laws at the state level.
Violation of the federal law requiring that all aliens over the age of 13 and present in the United States for 30 days or longer must register with the federal government (8 U.S.C. 1302) is now also a violation of Arizona law.
Violation of the federal law requiring all aliens over the age of 17 to carry their alien registration document with them at all times (8 U.S.C. 1304) is now also a violation of Arizona law.
Just as under federal law, violation of these new state laws is a misdemeanor carrying a penalty of no more than 30 days in jail.
3. Day laborers and those who hire them to obey traffic laws and hiring laws.
It is a misdemeanor for a person seeking to pick up day laborers and transport them to a work site to block or impede the flow of traffic in order to pick up the workers.
It is a misdemeanor for day laborers to enter a motor vehicle to be transported to a work site if that motor vehicle blocks or impedes the flow of traffic to pick them up.
It is a misdemeanor for an illegal alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place, or perform work as an employee or independent contractor in Arizona.
4. Compliance with Arizona’s E-Verify law.
Existing Arizona law requires every Arizona business to use E-Verify to verify the employment eligibility of every new hire. The new law requires all Arizona businesses to keep a record of such verification for the duration of the employee’s employment or for three years, whichever is longer.

I can read! A frog taught me.

Posted by: sickinmass at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (tamie)

270 @250: "The longer they're held, the more likely they'll be conservative if they are released. Let 'em stay and learn the ways of the world a little longer."
Meh. Every now and again, the cause of freedom needs some accidental martyrs. Glad to see that they volunteered.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (kmEfr)

271 Three women from history
Any three moronette's.

No I don't pander

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (fwSHf)

272 I think the hikers more resemble the two reporters that “inadvertently” ended up in North Korea. Yeah, you want to backpack after graduation, maybe the middle east isn’t the place for that…

Sorry, curious, usually I can muster up some sympathy, but in this case I have absolutely zilch for them. I do not believe for one minute that they accidentally ended up in Iran. And frankly, if they did do it on accident, they are pretty fucking stupid for backpackers.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (RZ8pf)

273 Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:49 PM (1fanL)

I mean he is really obsessed. We are beginning to think he will never find the "girl for him" because he is going to look at her through the prism of Audrey Hepburn. How many modern women can pass that test.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (p302b)

274
River Phoenix
Heath Leger
James Dean

Posted by: Corrie Haim at May 21, 2010 08:51 PM (PaMcq)

275 Any three moronette's.

No I don't pander

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (fwSHf)
There aren't even any 'Ettes, here you loser.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:51 PM (1fanL)

276 The left wing nutjobs have helped me change and solidify my position on illegal immigration. Round 'em up and send 'em back.

And these moonbats are proving to be far more dangerous and much greater enemies to me and to the state than any islamic jihadist.

McClintock is my congressman. Good job Tom.

Posted by: yobobbyb at May 21, 2010 08:51 PM (zdGrn)

277 No state agency, county, city, town or other political subdivision of Arizona may enact or enforce a sanctuary policy in violation of federal law (8 U.S.C. 1644).

This is the proof they read it....

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 08:52 PM (veaqz)

278 These millionaires are always Marxists.

That's because the top of the Marxist pig pile is the sweetest plum

Scene from the aviator where Audrey Hepburn's mother is explaining their socialism

Mrs Hepburn: We don't care about money!
Howard Hughes: That's because you have it.

Posted by: maverick muse at May 21, 2010 08:52 PM (H+LJc)

279 I think the hikers more resemble the two reporters that “inadvertently” ended up in North Korea.
You know it's pretty hard to inavertantly cross the frigging Yalu River.

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 08:52 PM (fwSHf)

280 Hello FUBAR, runningrn and I are ‘ettes. And isn’t curious an ‘ette too?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:52 PM (RZ8pf)

281 Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (RZ8pf)

yeah, that is the consensus....that they are pretty fucking stupid....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (p302b)

282 Oh, and the hikers have a blog that is a fundraiser/news update thing. I read some of the links to stuff the girl wrote. What an American hating piece of poo. She spent Ramadan with a family inIraq, I think. (She and the one guy lived in Damascus before their "hiking" incident). She actually said that Iraqis weren't killing Iraqis untilAmerica invaded(how convenient to neglect Sadaam and the purgings in Iraq of the Kurds and others). She talked about how ashamed of her country she was.

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (CfmlF)

283 I mean he is really obsessed. We are beginning to
think he will never find the "girl for him" because he is going to look
at her through the prism of Audrey Hepburn. How many modern women can
pass that test.

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:50 PM (p302b)
That's not good.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (1fanL)

284 yep i'm an "ette too

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (p302b)

285 G-d,
Golda Meir
Jefferson, Churchill, Thatcher
(cheated)

Posted by: willow at May 21, 2010 08:54 PM (ax2VZ)

286 Hello FUBAR, runningrn
and I are ‘ettes. And isn’t curious an ‘ette too?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:52 PM (RZ8pf)
Didn't see you two, and curious always fools me with her androgynous name.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:55 PM (1fanL)

287 Hey PGIS! I ordered my Cricut. It should be coming soon.

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:55 PM (CfmlF)

288 All the reform you need.
1. If you are found guilty of hiring an illegal invader, you will be tried and shot.
2. All your assets will be confiscated, and your family will be sold as slaves.
The end.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at May 21, 2010 08:55 PM (dQdrY)

289 Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (1fanL)

no, it's not....but, he is a nice guy, intelligent, good job....and he keeps getting shut down at bars...

The other day I told him to stop going to bars and go to the library, go on a historical walking tour, join an organization...I really don't think it is easy to meet your soul mate in a bar...

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (p302b)

290 Rachel Corrie had brains....I saw them.

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (veaqz)

291 Hooray runningrn! We should get together and cut a bunch of stuff after you get it. There was a sale at Fred Meyer on cartridges and so now I have even more!!!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (RZ8pf)

292 Drats, hate to go, but we are going out to dinner for our anniversary tonight. Have a good one, everybody!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (CfmlF)

293 curious, maybe he should hang out in front of Tiffany at 5am?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (RZ8pf)

294 Hooray runningrn! We should get together and cut a bunch of stuff after you get it. There was a sale at Fred Meyer on cartridges and so now I have even more!!!

Wow, I didn't know Freddies had cartridges! Cool!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (CfmlF)

295 happy anniversary....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (p302b)

296 Happy anniversary runningrn!

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (RZ8pf)

297 The other day I told him to stop going to bars and go
to the library, go on a historical walking tour, join an
organization...I really don't think it is easy to meet your soul mate in
a bar...

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (p302b)
No, but it's easy to meet your bunkmate. But yeah, good advice. Sports leagues, church. Oh, and craigslist. I keed, I keed.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (1fanL)

298 #292 Drats, hate to go, but we are going out to dinner for our anniversary
tonight. Have a good one, everybody!
Okay, have a nice anniversary dinner!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:58 PM (Acgmr)

299 290 Rachel Corrie had brains....I saw them.


I'm flattered flattenedyou noticed!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:58 PM (CfmlF)

300 Rachel Corrie had brains....I saw them.

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 08:56 PM (veaqz)
Talk about a mashed up bag of meat with lipstick on it.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 08:58 PM (1fanL)

301 Oops forgot to sock Rachel Corrie! OK gotta go!

Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:58 PM (CfmlF)

302 #297 No, but it's easy to meet your bunkmate. But yeah, good advice. Sports
leagues, church. Oh, and craigslist.

It's a trap! All this guy needs is to find a weapon of immense power.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 21, 2010 08:59 PM (Acgmr)

303 "293
curious, maybe he should
hang out in front of Tiffany at 5am?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 21, 2010 08:57 PM (RZ8pf)"hahhahha you know he has a really good job, makes a good living, but he doesn't give off the air of a guy making a good living so the "before I date you can I see your tax return please" set doesn't give him a second look...

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 08:59 PM (p302b)

304 Some researchers think the original Garden of Eden was located where the Iranian city of Tabriz is. Maybe those hikers being held in Iran are like those space hippies in Star Trek, looking for Eden.

http://tinyurl.com/cb79sb

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 08:59 PM (nqCRm)

305
G-d
not allowed! Rules state: No deity; no Holy figures.

Posted by: Corrie Haim at May 21, 2010 08:59 PM (PaMcq)

306 I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started ... and an enormous debt to boot!

- Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, 1939

Posted by: snapdragon wept at May 21, 2010 09:00 PM (cBHtc)

307
You can substitute Him for Charleton Heston, though.
Or George Burns.

Posted by: Corrie Haim at May 21, 2010 09:00 PM (PaMcq)

308 I remember the film...and as I recall we both kind of liked it...

Posted by: Troll at May 21, 2010 09:01 PM (Jr7IZ)

309 Morgan Freeman?

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 09:01 PM (veaqz)

310 Howard Stern (from his DC101 days)?

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 09:02 PM (veaqz)

311 oops, wt.

Posted by: snapdragon wept at May 21, 2010 09:02 PM (cBHtc)

312 Some researchers think the original Garden of Eden
was located where the Iranian city of Tabriz is. Maybe those hikers
being held in Iran are like those space hippies in Star Trek, looking
for Eden.http://tinyurl.com/cb79sb

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 08:59 PM (nqCRm)
Gadda da Vita?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 09:02 PM (1fanL)

313
that's acceptable

Posted by: Corrie Haim at May 21, 2010 09:02 PM (PaMcq)

314 Howdy!
So is this an early ONT?

Oh, and,

RAND PAUL!

hee hee

Posted by: Y-not at May 21, 2010 09:03 PM (Kn9r7)

315 Of course they've all read the law -- it's ten pages. Claiming to have
not read it allows them to speak of vaguely-defined "concerns" without
having to point out specific language in the bill they object to ...

They tell you they're ignorant retards who should be booted out of any position of responsibility and you call them liars.

I doubt they've read the bill - any of them. They consider details beneath them and don't really give a shit what's actually in the bill. Race-baiting is like that. Your idea that there is some strategizing about plausible deniability and being able to skirt the clear incorrectness of their asinine assessments is far beyond them. They are very simple people. Very simple. Very stupid. Very nasty. And, most of all, very un-American.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 21, 2010 09:04 PM (Qp4DT)

316 Nobody here but just us kumquats.

If you don't have any kumquats, why don't you just tell the man?

Posted by: Mrs. Bissonette (pronounced BIS-SON-NAY) at May 21, 2010 09:07 PM (kJXs1)

317 282 Oh, and the hikers have a blog that is a fundraiser/news update thing. I read some of the links to stuff the girl wrote. What an American hating piece of poo. She spent Ramadan with a family in Iraq, I think. (She and the one guy lived in Damascus before their "hiking" incident). She actually said that Iraqis weren't killing Iraqis until America invaded (how convenient to neglect Sadaam and the purgings in Iraq of the Kurds and others). She talked about how ashamed of her country she was.
Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (CfmlF)

Well, let the Iranians keep them then. I'm happy the Iranian taxpayers are willing to provide the wankers with 3 hots and a cot.

Posted by: ingrid newkirk at May 21, 2010 09:08 PM (fuemy)

318 What, Peaches ain't good enough for 'im?

Posted by: Fee Chais at May 21, 2010 09:09 PM (1fanL)

319 She talked about how ashamed of her country she was.



Posted by: runningrn at May 21, 2010 08:53 PM (CfmlF)

Nothing like a stoning after a hard day at work.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 09:10 PM (1fanL)

320
Numerous national and local polls indicated that 60-81% of Americans support local police enforcing immigration laws. Arizona no longer stands alone and we have now state lawmakers filing, or announcing they will file, versions of the Arizona bill in seventeen states! We should not stop until all states are protected from invasion as required by the US Constitution.
The following 17 states are following Arizona's lead in response to citizen pressure.

ARKANSAS, IDAHO, INDIANA, MARYLAND, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, PENNSYLVANIA, RHODE ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, TEXAS, and UTAH!

Posted by: sickinmass at May 21, 2010 09:12 PM (tamie)

321 Sh*t, still not Cali....

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 09:13 PM (veaqz)

322 ARKANSAS, IDAHO, INDIANA, MARYLAND, MICHIGAN,
MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, OHIO, OKLAHOMA,
PENNSYLVANIA, RHODE ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, TEXAS, and UTAH!

Posted by: sickinmass at May 21, 2010 09:12 PM (tamie)
Scary part is that only two of those states are border states.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 21, 2010 09:15 PM (1fanL)

323 Arizona no longer stands alone and we have now state lawmakers filing,
or announcing they will file, versions of the Arizona bill in seventeen
states!

Putting Democrats in the hot seat, during an election year.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2010 09:15 PM (nqCRm)

324 Hmmm, KIRO radio is reporting that the guy that raped a 28 year old in Edmonds this week is an illegal alien with 35 aliases that has been deported 4 times.
Fuck you democrats.

Posted by: robtr at May 21, 2010 09:18 PM (fwSHf)

325 RHODE ISLAND, MICHIGAN, MARYLAND, NEW JERSEY,
are border states too...

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 09:19 PM (veaqz)

326 Numerous national and local polls indicated that
60-81% of Americans support local police enforcing immigration laws.
Arizona no longer stands alone and we have now state lawmakers filing,
or announcing they will file, versions of the Arizona bill in seventeen
states!

Posted by: sickinmass at May 21, 2010 09:12 PM (tamie)
The funny part is that the America-haters in Washington are trying to convince people that the federal government was ever the primary enforcer of immigration/residency laws. It's not as if there are federal agents walking the streets all over the US. Everyone knows that the main police force that comes into contact with individuals (and usually the only one) is the local police force, with state cops running into people on the highways. This fantasy from Washington, that somehow the feds are the only ones allowed to identify illegals, runs against common sense and the history of law enforcement in the US. But, this is part and parcel of the federal government's push to claim that it does everything and that it interacts with individuals on a daily basis - both untrue and not the role of the federal government ... nor within its abilities.
Pretty much all interactions between individuals and government happen with state and local governments, with federal authorities never having but the most tenuous connections to happenings on the ground. Yet one more obvious fact that The Precedent and his Washington junta are lying about and running against.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 21, 2010 09:21 PM (Qp4DT)

327 and IDAHO ....being pedantic...

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 21, 2010 09:22 PM (veaqz)

328 The young American's captured in Iran could suffer the same fate as Billy Hayes in Midnight Express. Imprisonment for a term indefinite and a good old fashioned butt fucking.

Posted by: Fish at May 21, 2010 09:24 PM (M5t+h)

329 Finally! AudioBook of SB 1070. from some folks near Phoenix, exurbanleague dot com:
Between
Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano and Barack Obama, it seems no one in
Washington has the time to read Arizona's new anti-illegal immigration
law. Sure they have a busy schedule filled with attacks on the Grand
Canyon State, but it doesn't seem like our 10-page law would take that
much time.
Thankfully, our friend Jim Sharpe of
Phoenix radio station KFYI has decided to help out the Administration by
creating an audiobook of SB1070.there's more at the link, including "dramatic" readings of the bill.Personally, i'm of the school of thought that the dems are a bunch of liars, playing a game with deadly intent when they claim they "haven't read it!", but this is amusing

Posted by: texasmamma at May 21, 2010 09:29 PM (4L69q)

330 Reading is funjucational!

Posted by: sock puppeh at May 21, 2010 09:29 PM (VcPAo)

331 Ok, now this is just too much. Yesterday I posted the blog entry of the guy next door to this debacle, the guy who had just gotten his baby to sleep for their afternoon nap. Hmm...saw the house today on the news....the big hot shot bank executive lives in a regular house....thought the way it was described with 14 busloads of people on the porch that the guy had two acres and a mansion....not so....anyways, thought it was odd that the three cops who came in response to the neighbor's phone calls said they didn't want to arrest anyone cause they didn't want to make things worse....well, it turns out....

"D.C.
Metro Police Escorted SEIU Protesters to Bank Of America Executive’s
Home"

maybe the DC metro police should be concentrating on fixing their response time...instead of escorting union members...

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 09:32 PM (p302b)

332 @288: "All the reform you need.
1. If you are found guilty of hiring an illegal invader, you will be tried and shot.
2. All your assets will be confiscated, and your family will be sold as slaves.
The end."
Roman justice. Simple, brutal, effective.
I do favor giving them the option of suicide to avoid option 2, as the Romans did. I suppose we can't sell families as slaves anymore, but we can leave them destitute - the gummint does that on a daily basis for tax stuff, drug stuff, etc.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 09:34 PM (kmEfr)

333 ARKANSAS, IDAHO, INDIANA, MARYLAND, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI,
NEBRASKA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, PENNSYLVANIA, RHODE
ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, TEXAS, and UTAH!

Rick Perry has been a good governor in many ways, but he is being way too lame on this issue. how i would love to see some chris christie/jan brewer aggressiveness emanating from the guv's manse.

don't know how Houston crime stats compare to say, Phoenix, but all the horrible stories you read and hear about from all over the place happen in Houston on a daily basis. and there are many areas/neighborhoods all over the city where you might as well be living in Mexico.

Posted by: texasmamma at May 21, 2010 09:37 PM (4L69q)

334 @322: "scary part is that only two of those states are border states."
Several border Canada. They wanna bar the snowback hordes.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 21, 2010 09:38 PM (kmEfr)

335
"So, let’s sum this up: A caravan of SEIU buses receive a
Metropolitan (D.C.) Police Department escort to a private home in
Maryland where the protesters, from all appearances, violate Montgomery
County law by engaging in a stationary protest. The Montgomery County
police were not informed by their cross-jurisdictional colleagues of the
impending, unusually large protest pending in their jurisdiction.

What’s up with that? Had the mob decided to torch the house,
the D.C. police would not have been authorized to intervene. Not their
jurisdiction. They’re just escorts.Meanwhile, a teenage boy home alone, frightened by what’s happening outside
his front door.

There’s something very wrong with this picture."
the other morning, Beck told a story of being out for the evening watching circqu du soleil with his family and being confronted while holding his child and called "Satan".....Beck tempered the remark by making a joke out of it cause he could not believe that James Gandolfini's kids were watching him deliver the comment.


when did civility go out the window....I mean people, even the mafia leaves famililes out of it.....

Posted by: curious at May 21, 2010 09:40 PM (p302b)

336 278 -S'Katharine, not Audrey.

Posted by: annoying pedant at May 21, 2010 09:48 PM (tSxym)

337 Rick Perry has been a good governor in many ways, but he is being way too lame on this issue. how i would love to see some chris christie/jan brewer aggressiveness emanating from the guv's manse.
Since the feds have abdicated their responsibilities, the states took over. I imagine when the states abdicate, the counties should take over.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 21, 2010 10:03 PM (W8m8i)

338 The following 17 states are following Arizona's lead in response to citizen pressure.ARKANSAS, IDAHO, INDIANA, MARYLAND, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, PENNSYLVANIA, RHODE ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, TEXAS, and UTAH!
Posted by: sickinmass at May 21, 2010 09:12 PM (tamie)

Woohoo! Now if we can just get our rabble-rousin' AG on the case here in Virginny. Paging Ken Cuccinelli, please come to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 21, 2010 10:05 PM (W8m8i)

339 Since the feds have abdicated their
responsibilities, the states took over.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 21, 2010 10:03 PM (W8m8i)
It's not even a matter of the feds having abdicated anything. The feds were never the ones who ran into people on the street and held them for illegal presence. The feds ran raids on businesses and such, and larger raids on people, but we have never had the feds being the ones running into people on a daily basis in order to assess even whether they were illegal or not. That was always up to the local cops, who would hold the illegals for the feds.What the feds have stopped doing is controlling the border in any way, following up on visa overstays, or taking care of people identified as illegal and deporting them (as is exemplified by the Aunt Zetuni case).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 21, 2010 10:06 PM (Qp4DT)

340 Paging Ken Cuccinelli, please come to the white courtesy phone.

RAAAAACIST

Posted by: Zimriel at May 21, 2010 10:10 PM (KRFmm)

341 RHODE ISLAND, MICHIGAN, MARYLAND, NEW JERSEY, are border states too...

True. Back when I lived in Massachusetts, there was a low-level conflict going on with the Portuguese. They wanted our cod. And they'd literally cross the Atlantic to go fish in our water.

As for illegal immigration, we got the Irish; and not the cool Irish either (I'm part Irish), but the IRA motherfuckers. P.J.O'Rourke (whose Irishness is not in question) said it right - IRA supporters deserve an A-bomb targeted to their South Boston bar.

Posted by: Zimriel at May 21, 2010 10:16 PM (KRFmm)

342 Vegemite is good on toast.

Oh and Jews did WTC.

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344 Fuck me. I want to legally emigrate to California and become an American citizen, just so I can vote for Tom McClintock.

Posted by: David Gillies at May 21, 2010 11:36 PM (xb68W)

345 Hmmmmm.

Wow that's going to leave a mark. This Gov Brewer has got her ass-kicking shoes on over this subject.

Posted by: Mullah Biden at May 21, 2010 11:45 PM (MwCol)

346 McClintock was one of the handful of people who were running for governor after Davis was recalled.
He was deemed 'too conservative', so Arnold got the job instead. Unfortuntely, he was also THE money guy when it came to dealing with CA's deficit. Absolutely the right money guy for the job, but his social ideas wouldn't pass muster.
I'll betcha that there is crying in CA tonight over those people who regret not giving this guy a chance, instead of wimping out for Arnold. Who took the state from six billion in the red to twenty.
Stinks. This guy is good.

Posted by: JR at May 21, 2010 11:48 PM (3tjaF)

347 Mr. McClintock is my favorite political worker. I love this guy.

Yes, I regret voting from Arnold rather than McClintock. That was a mistake given the Governor's subsequent performance.

I did work for his campaign for Congress and I'm so glad he won.

This speech is just want needs to be said about this issue.

His downside, IMHO, is that his persona is that of the "angry accountant." He remained a back bencher during his time in the California legislature. An influential voice, certainly, but with what seemed to be to be a lack of "get-alongness" that an effective legislaturor or executive would need to be effective.

Still, I'll do what I can for him next election cycle. He is a great voice for America.

Posted by: Whitehall at May 22, 2010 12:02 AM (UTSWD)

348 Tom McClintock rocks! I voted for him when he was running for governor in CA. Too bad he lost to the asswipe from Austria.

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my state.

Posted by: B at May 22, 2010 01:24 AM (8c0LF)

349 The International Socialist have to mis-characterize her law and defame Arizona in order to:
1. Gin up a race war, d'apres 1968. (Look at all the good stuff they got after '6.
2. Lay the foundation for the smear campaign necessary because PBHO won't show his birth certificate as required by state law.

Posted by: Thorvald at May 22, 2010 07:57 AM (bLC0g)

350 A bill changing the 14th Amendment is now in Committee. It will change the status of anchor babies from legal US citizens to illegals. Thus it will stop the "anchor baby tours" to the US of foreign pregnant mommies. The bill states at least one parent must be a citizen. Sponsored by 92 Congress members. This is why all the brouha over criminal entrants and the AZ bill.

Posted by: Lynn II at May 22, 2010 09:20 AM (kscea)

351 EPIC WIN!!!!

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