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Plans Announced To Erect Islamic Culture Center On Lars Vilks' Decapitated Body
This is pretty chilling -- the full video of the intimidation of the cops by religious lunatics after the assault on Lars Vilks, and the cops' complete acceptance of that intimidation.
A few points. Vilks' presentation was, in fact, provocative, as it deliberately juxtaposed pictures of Mohammad (?) and praying Muslims with gay fetish shots. But, as everyone on the receiving end of artistic provocations for thirty years can tell you -- we're supposed to understand that ideas may incite, and in fact that is the very point of them, and that our right to not be offended doesn't trump anyone else's right to give offense. That lesson was definitely not taught here, as the Violently Aggrieved won the battlefield they turned this university into only on this day, but on future days as well -- the university has decided to put an end to this madness, by which they mean they won't invite Lars Vilks back for any further lectures. The lesson taught here is, once again, that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what they want. I'm just curious - I see the police making few arrests here. If there had been another crowd here -- a fired-up anti-jihad crowd, let's say, which intervened with the jihadists went wild, and started doing their own face-breaking -- how many decades of incarceration do you think they'd currently be facing? Should the law not be changed to reflect the actual law -- that Muslims are in fact permitted to create disturbances of the peace and commit assault? Because if you trick non-Muslim citizens into thinking these things are crimes, and then they intervene, believing themselves to be stopping crimes in progress... then you're locking them up without fair warning, aren't you? Eh. They've been warned, I guess. Everyone knows what the real law is.Comments
Posted by: s'moron at May 14, 2010 06:07 PM (UaxA0)
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Nothing to see here, move along. All is well.
Posted by: Eric Holder at May 14, 2010 06:08 PM (7ZyYf)
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I fought the law and I won.
Posted by: muslim dick at May 14, 2010 06:08 PM (xs+52)
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Then there's this: http://tiny.cc/ikag9
You'd think at some point the Second Amendment would start to catch on over the pond.
You'd think at some point the Second Amendment would start to catch on over the pond.
Posted by: Shooter at May 14, 2010 06:10 PM (zfRju)
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ROPMA.
Now if these were "bloodthirsty" Catholics after they saw the Piss Christ exhibit...the outcome would have been much different.
Now if these were "bloodthirsty" Catholics after they saw the Piss Christ exhibit...the outcome would have been much different.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 06:11 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Barbarian at May 14, 2010 06:11 PM (EL+OC)
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What kind of mentality thinks you can sit down and have a dialogue with this?
Posted by: Terry at May 14, 2010 06:13 PM (Vui52)
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I kill you!!!! they explained.
Posted by: damian at May 14, 2010 06:14 PM (4WbTI)
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Where do you dig this stuff up?
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 14, 2010 06:17 PM (SbFur)
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They're operating on the lymbic regions of the ...Oh wait, these aren't teabaggers ...
heh Nevermind.
heh Nevermind.
Posted by: Janeen Garafalo at May 14, 2010 06:19 PM (r60xu)
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The lesson taught here is, once again, that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what they want.
Good advice for future parents in that statement. If you want your child to be adjudicated Juvenile Delinquent before he hits the teenage years.
Maybe as the birth rate continually lowers in countries around the globe, and more people become non-parents, the insanity increases as the logic lessons learned in parenting disappear.
Good advice for future parents in that statement. If you want your child to be adjudicated Juvenile Delinquent before he hits the teenage years.
Maybe as the birth rate continually lowers in countries around the globe, and more people become non-parents, the insanity increases as the logic lessons learned in parenting disappear.
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 14, 2010 06:19 PM (IhHdM)
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that bitch in the pic needs a burqa
Posted by: Frank G at May 14, 2010 06:19 PM (4X0aT)
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I am very disappointed in my Viking brethren.Good thing I wasn't there and drinking. Course, if I'd been there I'd have been drinking, so it's probably for the best.
Seriously, don't Swedes own baseball bats? I'm going to release my own movie entitled "Muhammad's Harvest". It's about 15 seconds long and consists entirely of a cut of video of a guy jumping out of the WTC and the camera following him down until gravity and electrostatic repulsion turn him into a meat puddle.
I invite any peace loving goat fuckers to protest my lecture circuit.
Seriously, don't Swedes own baseball bats? I'm going to release my own movie entitled "Muhammad's Harvest". It's about 15 seconds long and consists entirely of a cut of video of a guy jumping out of the WTC and the camera following him down until gravity and electrostatic repulsion turn him into a meat puddle.
I invite any peace loving goat fuckers to protest my lecture circuit.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:20 PM (zi81J)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 14, 2010 06:20 PM (xs+52)
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O/T: This here is a little extreme, even by Moron standards. And for a Canadian, it strikes me as rather impolite, which is even worse than the underlying crimes by Canadian standards.
Canadian commander accused of murders and sex attacks
One of Canada's most senior military figures has been accused of being a sexual predator responsible for up to ten murders.
In a case that has shocked and transfixed the nation, British-born Colonel Russell Williams has been charged with two killings but police think they may be more.
Detectives are re-examining up to eight unsolved murders and dozens of sex crimes across Canada stretching back three decades.
His arrest marked a fall from grace for the elite Canadian Air Force commander who once flew the Queen across the Atlantic.
Col Williams, 47, was the commander in charge of Canadian Forces Base Trenton, near Toronto, which is the country's largest military airbase and provides support for its operations in Afghanistan and Haiti.
The married father of four, has been relieved of duty and is being kept in jail ahead of a civilian trial.
The colonel was born in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, and his parents both attended Birmingham University.
His family emigrated to Canada when he was four and he later embarked on a highly decorated 23-year military career, spending a decade at the controls of VIP flights carrying the Prime Minister and Governor General.
In 2005, he picked up the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh in the UK and flew them to Canada to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta.
He is charged with the first-degree murder of Corporal Marie Comeau, 38, who was a flight attendant under his command on VIP military flights. She was found dead at her home near the Trenton base in November.
He is also alleged to have murdered Jessica Lloyd, 27, a civilian who worked for a bus company. Her body was found by a roadside near the base in February. Both women were strangled.
The two sexual assault victims are alleged to have been attacked in their homes in September last year.
They were both bound with duct tape, blindfolded with pillow cases and tied to chairs by a masked intruder, alleged to have been Col Williams, who took photographs of them.
The colonel was an avid amateur photographer and police are examining his computer.
Another of his alleged victims has already lodged a £1.6 million civil suit against him, claiming she was sexually assaulted for two hours while her young daughter slept upstairs.
He also faces 82 charges of repeated break-ins at 47 homes in the capital Ottawa and Tweed, Ontario, a small town near the base where the colonel had a cottage.
Some of the break-ins were on Cosy Cove Lane, the road where he lived, and mostly took place on Friday and Saturday nights. He is alleged to have broken into one property nine times. Victims said their underwear drawers were rifled and lingerie stolen.
Col Williams was arrested after being stopped during a random police roadblock and police found the tyres of his Nissan Pathfinder matched a distinctive track in the snow near one of the murder scenes.
Among the previously unsolved killings now being reinvestigated is the 2001 rape and murder of a 19-year-old woman at the Trenton base.
They are also investigating unsolved crimes near Col Williams' previous postings.
Between December 2005 and June 2006 he was the commanding officer of Camp Mirage, a secretive Canadian military base near Dubai.
Since his arrest Col Williams, who has yet to enter a plea, has tried to commit suicide in prison by jamming a cardboard lavatory roll tube down his throat. He also began a hunger strike.
The charges against him have left Canada's military in a state of shock. He had been described by one superior as a "shining bright star."
General Walter Natynczyk, Canada's chief of defence staff, said: "Emotionally it's very difficult to deal with. We go forward, and we are proud to wear our uniform."
Canadian commander accused of murders and sex attacks
One of Canada's most senior military figures has been accused of being a sexual predator responsible for up to ten murders.
In a case that has shocked and transfixed the nation, British-born Colonel Russell Williams has been charged with two killings but police think they may be more.
Detectives are re-examining up to eight unsolved murders and dozens of sex crimes across Canada stretching back three decades.
His arrest marked a fall from grace for the elite Canadian Air Force commander who once flew the Queen across the Atlantic.
Col Williams, 47, was the commander in charge of Canadian Forces Base Trenton, near Toronto, which is the country's largest military airbase and provides support for its operations in Afghanistan and Haiti.
The married father of four, has been relieved of duty and is being kept in jail ahead of a civilian trial.
The colonel was born in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, and his parents both attended Birmingham University.
His family emigrated to Canada when he was four and he later embarked on a highly decorated 23-year military career, spending a decade at the controls of VIP flights carrying the Prime Minister and Governor General.
In 2005, he picked up the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh in the UK and flew them to Canada to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta.
He is charged with the first-degree murder of Corporal Marie Comeau, 38, who was a flight attendant under his command on VIP military flights. She was found dead at her home near the Trenton base in November.
He is also alleged to have murdered Jessica Lloyd, 27, a civilian who worked for a bus company. Her body was found by a roadside near the base in February. Both women were strangled.
The two sexual assault victims are alleged to have been attacked in their homes in September last year.
They were both bound with duct tape, blindfolded with pillow cases and tied to chairs by a masked intruder, alleged to have been Col Williams, who took photographs of them.
The colonel was an avid amateur photographer and police are examining his computer.
Another of his alleged victims has already lodged a £1.6 million civil suit against him, claiming she was sexually assaulted for two hours while her young daughter slept upstairs.
He also faces 82 charges of repeated break-ins at 47 homes in the capital Ottawa and Tweed, Ontario, a small town near the base where the colonel had a cottage.
Some of the break-ins were on Cosy Cove Lane, the road where he lived, and mostly took place on Friday and Saturday nights. He is alleged to have broken into one property nine times. Victims said their underwear drawers were rifled and lingerie stolen.
Col Williams was arrested after being stopped during a random police roadblock and police found the tyres of his Nissan Pathfinder matched a distinctive track in the snow near one of the murder scenes.
Among the previously unsolved killings now being reinvestigated is the 2001 rape and murder of a 19-year-old woman at the Trenton base.
They are also investigating unsolved crimes near Col Williams' previous postings.
Between December 2005 and June 2006 he was the commanding officer of Camp Mirage, a secretive Canadian military base near Dubai.
Since his arrest Col Williams, who has yet to enter a plea, has tried to commit suicide in prison by jamming a cardboard lavatory roll tube down his throat. He also began a hunger strike.
The charges against him have left Canada's military in a state of shock. He had been described by one superior as a "shining bright star."
General Walter Natynczyk, Canada's chief of defence staff, said: "Emotionally it's very difficult to deal with. We go forward, and we are proud to wear our uniform."
Posted by: (featuring Chaka Khan) at May 14, 2010 06:20 PM (7AOgy)
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Damn sock.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (7AOgy)
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Canada. Is that a country, or something?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (zi81J)
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One group of unemployed people going against another group of unemployed people...it's all just to keep themselves amused between soccer games and welfare checks.
Just wait till the islamics start saying 'no more beer'...then the shit will hit the fan.
Just wait till the islamics start saying 'no more beer'...then the shit will hit the fan.
Posted by: CanaDave at May 14, 2010 06:22 PM (s9lI2)
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Well we cannot expect ANY rationality from a religion that will hang gays (but only if they were not powerful enough to keep things secret) but is so tolerant of bestiality that they just have to sell the literally effed up goat in the next village lest someone eat what they f*cked to maintain Halaal or whatever they call it. I am with Kratos "there will be only chaos" and that chaos will be soon coming when close to a billion people follow the madness of the ROP.
Posted by: Palerider at May 14, 2010 06:23 PM (dkExz)
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Sweden now belongs to the Muslim residents there, so far as they are concerned. "Stop the film" demand from an audience does not equate to the authority that determined to show the film. "I'll explain to you later," was the lamest PC response. Put it on the line, "That's not for you to determine." Either sit down and watch, or leave. They called the police fucking pigs (to a Muslim supposedly the worst insult) followed by calling an officer a fucking cunt! And the white Swedes sitting still and waiting--wouldn't have noticed them in the room during the Muslim attempt to riot.
Posted by: maverick muse at May 14, 2010 06:23 PM (H+LJc)
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"We pay taxes!"
Sounds like someone is upset that his tax kronar went to the making of the "film" in question.
Sounds like someone is upset that his tax kronar went to the making of the "film" in question.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:24 PM (5Etcj)
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Lars Vilks was gay, then?
Posted by: maverick muse at May 14, 2010 06:24 PM (H+LJc)
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At NRO's The Corner, Mark Steyn proposes a definition of the term "secular Muslim":
As to Andy's musings on the contradictions of being a "secular Muslim", that's actually a pretty good term for the executives of Comedy Central, the publishers at Yale University Press, the custodians at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Academy of Pediatricians, etc. They don't go to Friday prayers (yet) but they accept that the strictures of Islamic law are now universal - no pix of the Prophet, a little bit of FGM never hurt anyone, etc. "Secular Muslim" seems as useful a term as any.
As to Andy's musings on the contradictions of being a "secular Muslim", that's actually a pretty good term for the executives of Comedy Central, the publishers at Yale University Press, the custodians at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Academy of Pediatricians, etc. They don't go to Friday prayers (yet) but they accept that the strictures of Islamic law are now universal - no pix of the Prophet, a little bit of FGM never hurt anyone, etc. "Secular Muslim" seems as useful a term as any.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:24 PM (7AOgy)
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I'd have enjoyed "Moderate Muslim Group Announces Plan To Erect Islamic Culture Center On Lars Vilks' Decapitated Body" slightly more. But woot.
Posted by: oblig. at May 14, 2010 06:26 PM (x7Ao8)
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When/if the backlash ever comes, it's going to be bad. The people are getting tired of Muslims shitting on them while the government holds them down.
Posted by: real joe at May 14, 2010 06:28 PM (WjerO)
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Vilks' presentation was, in fact, provocative, as it deliberately juxtaposed pictures of Mohammad (?) and praying Muslims with gay fetish shots.
We like the cut of this guy's gib.
We like the cut of this guy's gib.
Posted by: Dick Cheney, Chuck Norris, Tom Coburn at May 14, 2010 06:28 PM (QZYZY)
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Where do you dig this stuff up?
Small Dead
Animals?
;^)
I was kidding. I sent Ace a link to the American Power post, but the video has been making the rounds apparently.
Where do you dig this stuff up?
Small Dead
Animals?
;^)
I was kidding. I sent Ace a link to the American Power post, but the video has been making the rounds apparently.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 14, 2010 06:29 PM (SbFur)
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His arrest marked a fall from grace for the elite Canadian Air Force
commander who once flew the Queen across the Atlantic.
Non-stop? Or did she have to stop for fuel?
commander who once flew the Queen across the Atlantic.
Non-stop? Or did she have to stop for fuel?
Posted by: antisocialist at May 14, 2010 06:29 PM (Rwudm)
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Well Ace it appears we are back at the "prisoner's delima" again except that this time it is not politics. The West is like the Republicans, they decided to unitlaterally surrender to all the asshole creeps long ago.
I doesn't matter who is doing the rioting and violence as long as it is not a "conservative organization". The anarchists can throw rocks and break windows and even assault cops and they may get an "overnight" in jail only to be released the next day. The Muslims can do the same thing.
What we are going to have to do is start the "tit for tat" with these clowns. When they assault someone who is speaking out against Muslims then a group of "conservative thugs" needs to go to the next Muslim rally and assault their speaker. Or at least arrange to assault the assaulter.
I doesn't matter who is doing the rioting and violence as long as it is not a "conservative organization". The anarchists can throw rocks and break windows and even assault cops and they may get an "overnight" in jail only to be released the next day. The Muslims can do the same thing.
What we are going to have to do is start the "tit for tat" with these clowns. When they assault someone who is speaking out against Muslims then a group of "conservative thugs" needs to go to the next Muslim rally and assault their speaker. Or at least arrange to assault the assaulter.
Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2010 06:29 PM (6taRI)
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Vilks' presentation was, in fact, provocative, as it deliberately
juxtaposed pictures of Mohammad (?) and praying Muslims with gay fetish
shots.
Have you seen some of their asses?
juxtaposed pictures of Mohammad (?) and praying Muslims with gay fetish
shots.
Have you seen some of their asses?
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at May 14, 2010 06:29 PM (zi81J)
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When/if the backlash ever comes, it's going to be bad. The people are
getting tired of Muslims shitting on them while the government holds
them down.
Yep. Children of Men bad.
getting tired of Muslims shitting on them while the government holds
them down.
Yep. Children of Men bad.
Posted by: pogrom at May 14, 2010 06:30 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 06:30 PM (+RPh+)
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Canada. Is that a country, or something?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (zi81J)
A magical land, where Air Force Colonels are serial rapist/murderers and hog farmers make sausage out of the prostitutes they torture and murder. And where you can get your wife to help you rape and murder her kid sister.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (zi81J)
A magical land, where Air Force Colonels are serial rapist/murderers and hog farmers make sausage out of the prostitutes they torture and murder. And where you can get your wife to help you rape and murder her kid sister.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:30 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (+RPh+)
Posted by: pogrom at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (4WbTI)
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A magical land, where Air Force Colonels are serial rapist/murderers and hog farmers make sausage out of the prostitutes they torture and murder. And where you can get your wife to help you rape and murder her kid sister.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:30 PM (7AOgy)
Bunk.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:30 PM (7AOgy)
Bunk.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (zi81J)
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I'm just curious - I see the police making few arrests here.
Vilks should speak in Texas.
Vilks should speak in Texas.
Posted by: Texan Headknocker at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (QZYZY)
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Canada. Is that a country, or something?
In all fairness they did kick our ass the one time we thought it would be cool to own that chunk of land.
In all fairness they did kick our ass the one time we thought it would be cool to own that chunk of land.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (0q2P7)
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Does wanting to introduce Crocheted Sweater Girl to some Saudi religious police, on their home turf, make me a bad person?
Posted by: lotocoti at May 14, 2010 06:32 PM (gKIAp)
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Sounds like someone is upset that his tax kronar went to the making of the "film" in question.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:24 PM (5Etcj)
Wow, now you're in favor of the government censoring the art it sponsors?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:24 PM (5Etcj)
Wow, now you're in favor of the government censoring the art it sponsors?
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:32 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: fluffy at May 14, 2010 06:32 PM (4Kl5M)
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I'd just like to say that I think Mooslims are a bunch of pussies.
Come and get me, you little shits.
Come and get me, you little shits.
Posted by: Editor at May 14, 2010 06:32 PM (pUfK9)
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Vilks should speak in Texas.
Talking head from the dead...
Zardoz, "the penis is evil" while vomiting rifles and ammo.
Talking head from the dead...
Zardoz, "the penis is evil" while vomiting rifles and ammo.
Posted by: maverick muse at May 14, 2010 06:33 PM (H+LJc)
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I dunno. It looks like that audience is packed with Islamics, and someone was trying to piss them off.
And why else would there be so many police there?
Just wondering...
And why else would there be so many police there?
Just wondering...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:33 PM (6oDXl)
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A magical land, where Air Force Colonels are serial rapist/murderers and
hog farmers make
sausage out of the prostitutes they torture and murder. And where
you can get your wife to help you
rape and murder her kid sister.
Yeah, but you have free health care.
A magical land, where Air Force Colonels are serial rapist/murderers and
hog farmers make
sausage out of the prostitutes they torture and murder. And where
you can get your wife to help you
rape and murder her kid sister.
Yeah, but you have free health care.
Posted by: Crack pipin' at May 14, 2010 06:34 PM (Oxen1)
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I bet they would have been really upset by a presentation on weapon effectiveness and value of case fragments versus weight, incineration versus blast effects, thermo-barics, and impact of precision on weapon design. Lots of pictures of dead muzzies, a good one of what used to be a mosque, some nasty Russian pics from Chechnya, etc. I also bet they wouldn't dare rush the stage and most of the Scandis would be outraged and write letters..
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2010 06:34 PM (CPefM)
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I really appreciate them cheering for me, but I haven't been in the ring for years.
Posted by: Muhammad Ali at May 14, 2010 06:35 PM (pUfK9)
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Bunk.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (zi81J)
Well, when they had Laura Prepon play Karla Homolka, the wife and big sister in question, that kind of made the whole thing even creepier - are we supposed to have the hots for a psycho chick like Karla? And if she looked like Laura Prepon, why would her husband want to go after her kid sister? (I know, I know: because that kind of sickness doesn't follow logic.)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:31 PM (zi81J)
Well, when they had Laura Prepon play Karla Homolka, the wife and big sister in question, that kind of made the whole thing even creepier - are we supposed to have the hots for a psycho chick like Karla? And if she looked like Laura Prepon, why would her husband want to go after her kid sister? (I know, I know: because that kind of sickness doesn't follow logic.)
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:35 PM (7AOgy)
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Unsurprisingly, snapdragon hears "Almonds at the snack bar".
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 14, 2010 06:36 PM (DfOX0)
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I bet they would have been really upset by a presentation on weapon
effectiveness and value of case fragments versus weight, incineration
versus blast effects, thermo-barics, and impact of precision on weapon
design.
In Ramallah it's called "Third Grade". Just sayin'.
effectiveness and value of case fragments versus weight, incineration
versus blast effects, thermo-barics, and impact of precision on weapon
design.
In Ramallah it's called "Third Grade". Just sayin'.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:36 PM (zi81J)
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Jesus Christ. Talk about poor police control.
The boys in my town would have had these fuckers tazed and prone in about....Uh....5 seconds.
The boys in my town would have had these fuckers tazed and prone in about....Uh....5 seconds.
Posted by: Sgt Hulka at May 14, 2010 06:36 PM (sezt+)
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I dunno. It looks like that audience is packed with Islamics, and someone was trying to piss them off.
And why else would there be so many police there?
Just wondering...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:33 PM (6oDXl)
Obviously Lars Vilks got what he deserved then. Here's some of that "diversity" you thought was just swell back when you lived in L.A.
I dunno. It looks like that audience is packed with Islamics, and someone was trying to piss them off.
And why else would there be so many police there?
Just wondering...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:33 PM (6oDXl)
Obviously Lars Vilks got what he deserved then. Here's some of that "diversity" you thought was just swell back when you lived in L.A.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 06:36 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 14, 2010 06:36 PM (7VvJB)
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"Wow, now you're in favor of the government censoring the art it
sponsors?"
"Art" is such a subjective term.
sponsors?"
"Art" is such a subjective term.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:38 PM (5Etcj)
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Lars' problem was that he didn't show in on Manlove Thursday - gay sex is haram the rest of the week. If he had shown it on Thursday night then an impromptu orgy would have broken out.
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2010 06:39 PM (CPefM)
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The groovy new mosque in NY will be dedicated on 9-11-11.
Wonder who will be on the red carpet.
Wonder what all the cool libs will wear.
Muzzies are sooooo cool.
Please print the 10 people that voted for this please......
Wonder who will be on the red carpet.
Wonder what all the cool libs will wear.
Muzzies are sooooo cool.
Please print the 10 people that voted for this please......
Posted by: non_dhimmie at May 14, 2010 06:40 PM (zACGu)
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So, knowingly showing up to an event where they KNEW they would see something that "dishonored" Muhammad *spit* should be pretty sinful, right?
Posted by: Editor at May 14, 2010 06:41 PM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:42 PM (zi81J)
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Here's some of that "diversity" you thought was just swell back when you lived in L.A.
Sorry? No, that audience was packed. Whoever did that wanted a reaction, and he got it.
In L.A. a fight may have broken out, but it would have been in the crowd. And in the old days the LAPD would have busted heads.
There was no diversity there.
Sorry? No, that audience was packed. Whoever did that wanted a reaction, and he got it.
In L.A. a fight may have broken out, but it would have been in the crowd. And in the old days the LAPD would have busted heads.
There was no diversity there.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:42 PM (6oDXl)
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Yeah, but you have free health care.
Posted by: Crack pipin' at May 14, 2010 06:34 PM (Oxen1)
The problem for those women is that the Canadian national health service doesn't cover resurrection, or (in the case of the ground-up prostitutes) cellular-level reconstructive surgery.
Posted by: Crack pipin' at May 14, 2010 06:34 PM (Oxen1)
The problem for those women is that the Canadian national health service doesn't cover resurrection, or (in the case of the ground-up prostitutes) cellular-level reconstructive surgery.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:42 PM (7AOgy)
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Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:38 PM (5Etcj)
I knew the gay porn would catch your discerning eye........
I knew the gay porn would catch your discerning eye........
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 06:43 PM (JrRME)
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When you want to get serious about dealing with these bastards, give me a call.
Posted by: Zombie Charles Martel at May 14, 2010 06:43 PM (9B5OK)
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There was no diversity there.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:42 PM (6oDXl)
True. I think all the dildos being sat on were pretty much the same size.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:42 PM (6oDXl)
True. I think all the dildos being sat on were pretty much the same size.
Posted by: Editor at May 14, 2010 06:43 PM (pUfK9)
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Most Scandi males are pussies. I'm not surprised at
their reactions.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 14, 2010 06:11 PM (EL+OC)
Not to fear. Techno-Viking will save them all from the muzzy menace.
Most Scandi males are pussies. I'm not surprised at
their reactions.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 14, 2010 06:11 PM (EL+OC)
Not to fear. Techno-Viking will save them all from the muzzy menace.
Posted by: Blazer at May 14, 2010 06:43 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: King Barry I at May 14, 2010 06:43 PM (sYxEE)
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he didn't show in on Manlove Thursday - gay sex is
haram the rest of the week. If he had shown it on Thursday night then
an impromptu orgy would have broken out.
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2010 06:39 PM (CPefM)
true dat: The Muzzies would have made Lars "Kuffir of the Month"
haram the rest of the week. If he had shown it on Thursday night then
an impromptu orgy would have broken out.
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2010 06:39 PM (CPefM)
true dat: The Muzzies would have made Lars "Kuffir of the Month"
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 06:45 PM (JrRME)
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Yes, it's true. The Scandis are all pussies. They would rather offer their necks to be cut, ratherthat be thought of as impolite.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 06:46 PM (oIp16)
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We kill beavers, too.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 14, 2010 06:47 PM (xs+52)
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I love the part where at 5:39 one of the bastards screams "if you had stopped the film, this couldn't have happened".
Cause and effect isn't exactly that asshole's strong suit.
Cause and effect isn't exactly that asshole's strong suit.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 14, 2010 06:47 PM (9B5OK)
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So its settled. Mohomeeeeed was a homosexual.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 14, 2010 06:49 PM (7VvJB)
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If there had been another crowd here -- a fired-up anti-jihad crowd, let's say, which intervened with the jihadists went wild, and started doing their own face-breaking --
a part of me wishes.
a part of me wishes.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 06:49 PM (DKV43)
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I love the part where at 5:39 one of the bastards screams "if you had stopped the film, this couldn't have happened".Cause and effect isn't exactly that asshole's strong suit.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 14, 2010 06:47 PM (9B5OK)
The best one was, "I told you to turn it off! I told you to turn it off!"I think this guy has a vajayjay, 'cause for some reason he thinks everyone should do what he tells them to.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 14, 2010 06:47 PM (9B5OK)
The best one was, "I told you to turn it off! I told you to turn it off!"I think this guy has a vajayjay, 'cause for some reason he thinks everyone should do what he tells them to.
Posted by: Editor at May 14, 2010 06:50 PM (pUfK9)
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the worst part is that the film is pretty lame. I'll defend this Lars guy, but can't we be fighting over actualy art. that film did seem kinda like he just put it together on his lap top before he showed up.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 06:50 PM (DKV43)
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69
I love the part where at 5:39 one of the bastards screams "if you had
stopped the film, this couldn't have happened".Cause and effect
isn't exactly that asshole's strong suit.
But it's "their country" too, /sarc.
I love the part where at 5:39 one of the bastards screams "if you had
stopped the film, this couldn't have happened".Cause and effect
isn't exactly that asshole's strong suit.
But it's "their country" too, /sarc.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 06:50 PM (c0A3e)
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is "beavers" code for islamists? maybe a cull is in the pipeline?
Posted by: marc in calgary at May 14, 2010 06:50 PM (twux5)
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We Americans aren't doing that great on facing up to things here.
If we want to be able to scoff at the Brits, Canadians or any one else, we have to be less dhimmi ourselves.
If we want to be able to scoff at the Brits, Canadians or any one else, we have to be less dhimmi ourselves.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 06:51 PM (aE/nJ)
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I wish, marc.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 14, 2010 06:51 PM (xs+52)
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that film did seem kinda like he just put it together on his lap top
before he showed up
no, he borrowed my laptop *wink*
that film did seem kinda like he just put it together on his lap top
before he showed up
no, he borrowed my laptop *wink*
Posted by: andi sully at May 14, 2010 06:51 PM (UaxA0)
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stuiec: Robert Ferrigno used to post here at Ace's; first under his own name and then under an obvious sock. For all I know he's still lurking.
In 2006 I called his book "Prayers For The Assassin", "the most important book since 9/11". It used to bug me that I was being hyperbolic.
In 2006 I called his book "Prayers For The Assassin", "the most important book since 9/11". It used to bug me that I was being hyperbolic.
Posted by: Zimriel at May 14, 2010 06:52 PM (ZPKfk)
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First of all, in the students defense, the production values of that film were atrocious, the plot was thin, the story arc comically fractured and there appeared to be no character development whatsoever. So a riot shouldn't have been a huge surprise - I would expect the same reaction in Cannes, Sundance or Tribeca.
Second, are those real cops? They all look like they borrowed their big brother's uniform to act in a school play. I'm guessing this is some kind of all vegan campus security, previously sworn to resist both violence and grooming.
Finally, are those real cops?
Second, are those real cops? They all look like they borrowed their big brother's uniform to act in a school play. I'm guessing this is some kind of all vegan campus security, previously sworn to resist both violence and grooming.
Finally, are those real cops?
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 14, 2010 06:53 PM (+lsX1)
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File this one under "Suicidal Societies".
I'd like to think we are better than the scandis, but Musilum outrages just as bad happens at UC Irvine and UCSD and dozens of universities every week and we do nothing to stop it.
So laugh it up, while secretly knowing this is our fate too.
I'd like to think we are better than the scandis, but Musilum outrages just as bad happens at UC Irvine and UCSD and dozens of universities every week and we do nothing to stop it.
So laugh it up, while secretly knowing this is our fate too.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 06:54 PM (oIp16)
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"Art" is such a subjective term.
Exactly Snappy. So hard to clearly define. I move, that in order to avoid such situations in the future; the government end the horrible inequity and stop the subjective practice of funding "art"
Easy: problem now solved.
Exactly Snappy. So hard to clearly define. I move, that in order to avoid such situations in the future; the government end the horrible inequity and stop the subjective practice of funding "art"
Easy: problem now solved.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 14, 2010 06:54 PM (0q2P7)
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At least it wasn't "feminist menstruation porn".
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at May 14, 2010 06:56 PM (wd0Iq)
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So where was this filmed at?
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 06:56 PM (6oDXl)
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It's here, at UCSD, Ground Zero and points in between.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 06:57 PM (aE/nJ)
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Xtians take note. Tired of being offended by the likes of Bill Mahr, Rosie O, Ron Howard and Prissy Chrissy, go out and behead them. Since it seems that violence is the only thing these people understand.
Posted by: Iblis at May 14, 2010 06:58 PM (HUgic)
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Yes, it's true. The Scandis are all pussies. They would rather offer their necks to be cut, ratherthat be thought of as impolite.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 06:46 PM (oIp16)
Not necessarily so -- at least, Iranian ex-pats in Scandinavia have some gumption.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 06:46 PM (oIp16)
Not necessarily so -- at least, Iranian ex-pats in Scandinavia have some gumption.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:59 PM (7AOgy)
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He said "erect"
Posted by: Beavis and Butt-Head at May 14, 2010 06:59 PM (Mmw0q)
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Looks like the violent extremists won :-(
Posted by: Anon at May 14, 2010 06:59 PM (GpHQ+)
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Finally, are those real cops?
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 14, 2010 06:53 PM
(+lsX1)
Back in The Day ( 1970s ) Swedish cops--at least in the cities--would sooner kick your ass than arrest you. They wore these gayish white Sam Browne belts, and probably felt the need to compensate.
They like to patrol in threes: Two to stomp people while the third guy kept watch
These guys and gals in cop uniform today in this 'incident' look like kids--except for the burly guy who exits stage left with a perp
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at May 14, 2010 06:53 PM
(+lsX1)
Back in The Day ( 1970s ) Swedish cops--at least in the cities--would sooner kick your ass than arrest you. They wore these gayish white Sam Browne belts, and probably felt the need to compensate.
They like to patrol in threes: Two to stomp people while the third guy kept watch
These guys and gals in cop uniform today in this 'incident' look like kids--except for the burly guy who exits stage left with a perp
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 07:01 PM (JrRME)
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"Art" is such a subjective term.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:38 PM
This is MY kind of art
The Roman Polanski Dancers
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 06:38 PM
This is MY kind of art
The Roman Polanski Dancers
Posted by: two snaps up dragon at May 14, 2010 07:02 PM (sYxEE)
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On the next episode of Cops In Scandinavia, watch as a pair of helpful Oslo police officers stop traffic to allow a bank robber to cross the street to his getaway car and give him a jump when he finds his battery is dead, a Stockholm officer helps a poor heroin addict retrieve his needle from a storm drain and the Copenhagen Swat team aims below the knees to take out a knife wielding hostage taker so as not to kill him.
On the next episode of Cops In Scandinavia, watch as a pair of helpful Oslo police officers stop traffic to allow a bank robber to cross the street to his getaway car and give him a jump when he finds his battery is dead, a Stockholm officer helps a poor heroin addict retrieve his needle from a storm drain and the Copenhagen Swat team aims below the knees to take out a knife wielding hostage taker so as not to kill him.
Posted by: Blazer at May 14, 2010 07:02 PM (t72+4)
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I hope NY will argue back, there is no reason a mosque has to go up and that specific piece of NY land.
Posted by: nedacry at May 14, 2010 07:03 PM (ax2VZ)
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You pussies disappoint us.
Posted by: Viking Raiders, Marauders and Berserkers at May 14, 2010 07:03 PM (Mmw0q)
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Dammit! This whole thing is horse-shit. He packed the crowd, showed some sort of gay stuff that they hated, and thenthey erupted.
This is NOT the way to go.
This is NOT the way to go.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:04 PM (6oDXl)
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damn it i'm on the wrong thread. backs out of room.
Posted by: nedacry at May 14, 2010 07:05 PM (ax2VZ)
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I ain't readin' the post first, I'm tired of being the last one to comment on a thread, so I'll just say this and then go back and read...
It's high time we played Cowboys and muslims, I'm sick of their shit and think they should be exterminated.
It's high time we played Cowboys and muslims, I'm sick of their shit and think they should be exterminated.
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at May 14, 2010 07:05 PM (XVZOO)
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stuiec: Robert Ferrigno used to post here at Ace's; first under his own name and then under an obvious sock. For all I know he's still lurking.
In 2006 I called his book "Prayers For The Assassin", "the most important book since 9/11". It used to bug me that I was being hyperbolic.
Posted by: Zimriel at May 14, 2010 06:52 PM (ZPKfk)
Entertaining and thought-provoking, is it? I still haven't gotten around to reading my copy of "The Yiddish Policemen's Union" by Michael Chabon.
In 2006 I called his book "Prayers For The Assassin", "the most important book since 9/11". It used to bug me that I was being hyperbolic.
Posted by: Zimriel at May 14, 2010 06:52 PM (ZPKfk)
Entertaining and thought-provoking, is it? I still haven't gotten around to reading my copy of "The Yiddish Policemen's Union" by Michael Chabon.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:06 PM (7AOgy)
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93
I hope NY will argue back, there is no reason a mosque has to go up
and that specific piece of NY land.
Posted by: nedacry at May 14, 2010 07:03 PM
It MUST go up there to show our brotherly love for those who got the stink eye over the unfortunate plane accidents and collapse of the WTC
When will ignorant people realize that SALT is a far bigger killer than muslims?
I hope NY will argue back, there is no reason a mosque has to go up
and that specific piece of NY land.
Posted by: nedacry at May 14, 2010 07:03 PM
It MUST go up there to show our brotherly love for those who got the stink eye over the unfortunate plane accidents and collapse of the WTC
When will ignorant people realize that SALT is a far bigger killer than muslims?
Posted by: Headmaster Bloomberg at May 14, 2010 07:06 PM (sYxEE)
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I hope NY will argue back, there is no reason a mosque has to go up and that specific piece of NY land.
i think it will be stopped because we will have liberal allies on this one. Even people like Chuck Shchumer and other NYC jews won't stand for this.
i think it will be stopped because we will have liberal allies on this one. Even people like Chuck Shchumer and other NYC jews won't stand for this.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 07:06 PM (DKV43)
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Not necessarily so -- at least, Iranian ex-pats in Scandinavia have some gumption.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:59 PM (7AOgy)
Iranian ex-pats are not Scanis.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 06:59 PM (7AOgy)
Iranian ex-pats are not Scanis.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (oIp16)
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I ain't readin' the post first, I'm tired of being the last one to comment on a thread, so I'll just say this and then go back and read...It's high time we played Cowboys and muslims, I'm sick of their shit and think they should be exterminated.
And let's build a 10 story Church on their corpses..... go troll elsewhere, there are not takers here. We want radicals stopped.
And let's build a 10 story Church on their corpses..... go troll elsewhere, there are not takers here. We want radicals stopped.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (DKV43)
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SCANDIS
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (oIp16)
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Posted by: Blazer at May 14, 2010 07:02 PM (t72+4)
Olso cops probably have more experience with unruly drunks than cops anywhere except maybe Russia--as Oslo has been proven to be the Drunk In Public capitol of the entire world
The best show in town is the Oslo train station late on a Friday or Saturday night. Drunks outnumber Other People about 4 to 1, and many are very unruly.
Olso cops probably have more experience with unruly drunks than cops anywhere except maybe Russia--as Oslo has been proven to be the Drunk In Public capitol of the entire world
The best show in town is the Oslo train station late on a Friday or Saturday night. Drunks outnumber Other People about 4 to 1, and many are very unruly.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (JrRME)
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23
At NRO's The Corner, Mark Steyn
proposes a definition of the term "secular Muslim":
As to Andy's musings on the contradictions of being a "secular
Muslim", that's actually a pretty good term for the executives of Comedy
Central, the publishers at Yale University Press, the custodians at the
Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Academy of Pediatricians, etc.
They don't go to Friday prayers (yet) but they accept that the
strictures of Islamic law are now universal - no pix of the Prophet, a
little bit of FGM never hurt anyone, etc. "Secular Muslim" seems as
useful a term as any.
+100
At NRO's The Corner, Mark Steyn
proposes a definition of the term "secular Muslim":
As to Andy's musings on the contradictions of being a "secular
Muslim", that's actually a pretty good term for the executives of Comedy
Central, the publishers at Yale University Press, the custodians at the
Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Academy of Pediatricians, etc.
They don't go to Friday prayers (yet) but they accept that the
strictures of Islamic law are now universal - no pix of the Prophet, a
little bit of FGM never hurt anyone, etc. "Secular Muslim" seems as
useful a term as any.
+100
Posted by: shibumi at May 14, 2010 07:16 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: TXMarko at May 14, 2010 07:17 PM (X5G9a)
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Dammit! This whole thing is horse-shit. He packed the crowd, showed some sort of gay stuff that they hated, and thenthey erupted.
This is NOT the way to go.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:04 PM (6oDXl)
First, VILKS packed the crowd? On what evidence do you base that claim? The Muslims in that crowd voluntarily came to see Lars Vilks, cartoonist who insulted the Prophet Mohammed and who is now under a constant death threat. I don't see where he bused in the audience or hand-selected it.
Second, what was in that film is about on a par with what was in the South Park episodes censored by Comedy Central. If you missed the "Cartoon Wars" episode of South Park, the part the network DIDN'T censor depicted Jesus Christ shitting on George W. Bush and the American flag. I don't recall where either Bush supporters or Christian activists put a fatwa on Comedy Central for what they DID show, but I notice that the network got death threats from Islamicists for what they actually DIDN'T show.
In this Vilks film, why are the gay images offensive? Because the Muslims in the audience revile homosexuality to the point that they want gays EXECUTED. Vilks effectively goaded them into bringing that hatefulness out into the open in just a matter of seconds.
Fuck the Islamicists if they can't take a joke. Seriously.
This is NOT the way to go.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:04 PM (6oDXl)
First, VILKS packed the crowd? On what evidence do you base that claim? The Muslims in that crowd voluntarily came to see Lars Vilks, cartoonist who insulted the Prophet Mohammed and who is now under a constant death threat. I don't see where he bused in the audience or hand-selected it.
Second, what was in that film is about on a par with what was in the South Park episodes censored by Comedy Central. If you missed the "Cartoon Wars" episode of South Park, the part the network DIDN'T censor depicted Jesus Christ shitting on George W. Bush and the American flag. I don't recall where either Bush supporters or Christian activists put a fatwa on Comedy Central for what they DID show, but I notice that the network got death threats from Islamicists for what they actually DIDN'T show.
In this Vilks film, why are the gay images offensive? Because the Muslims in the audience revile homosexuality to the point that they want gays EXECUTED. Vilks effectively goaded them into bringing that hatefulness out into the open in just a matter of seconds.
Fuck the Islamicists if they can't take a joke. Seriously.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:17 PM (7AOgy)
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17
Canada. Is that a country, or something?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (zi81J)
It's America's hat.
Canada. Is that a country, or something?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2010 06:21 PM (zi81J)
It's America's hat.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2010 07:19 PM (XIXhw)
Posted by: DelD at May 14, 2010 07:19 PM (G79kj)
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If I were Vilks I think I'd be doing web seminars anyhow.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2010 07:19 PM (XIXhw)
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Iranian ex-pats are not Scanis.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (oIp16)
Oh, you noticed that?
At least Lars Vilks and Flemming Rose and the other people involved in the Jyllands-Posten cartoons are Scandis, and those few showed a lot more backbone than the vast majority of media personnel in the rest of the West.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 14, 2010 07:08 PM (oIp16)
Oh, you noticed that?
At least Lars Vilks and Flemming Rose and the other people involved in the Jyllands-Posten cartoons are Scandis, and those few showed a lot more backbone than the vast majority of media personnel in the rest of the West.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:20 PM (7AOgy)
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I can only take solace in the fact that, in the end, everyone will get what they deserve.
Posted by: grace at May 14, 2010 07:21 PM (Exq1l)
Posted by: newrouter at May 14, 2010 07:23 PM (bEZJ+)
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OT:Is Nam Grunt ok?
Posted by: sig at May 14, 2010 07:23 PM (2i+Vz)
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OT:Is Nam Grunt ok?
He's fine as far as I know - I saw him a day or two ago. He just lurks more these days.
OT:Is Nam Grunt ok?
He's fine as far as I know - I saw him a day or two ago. He just lurks more these days.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 07:25 PM (c0A3e)
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I'm sorry but for our Dutch friends this little exchange from "ALIEN" comes to mind right now:
Ripley: That's amazing. What is it?
Ash: Uh, yes, it is. Umm. I don't know yet. [...]
Ripley: And, uh, our guest?
Ash: Well, as I said, I'm still... collating, actually, but uh, I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. Has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon, which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions. Is that enough?
Ripley: That's plenty. What does it mean?
Ash: Well, it's an interesting combination of elements making him a... tough little son-of-a-bitch.
Ripley: And you let him in.
Ripley: That's amazing. What is it?
Ash: Uh, yes, it is. Umm. I don't know yet. [...]
Ripley: And, uh, our guest?
Ash: Well, as I said, I'm still... collating, actually, but uh, I have confirmed that he's got an outer layer of protein polysaccharides. Has a funny habit of shedding his cells and replacing them with polarized silicon, which gives him a prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions. Is that enough?
Ripley: That's plenty. What does it mean?
Ash: Well, it's an interesting combination of elements making him a... tough little son-of-a-bitch.
Ripley: And you let him in.
Posted by: Drillanwr at May 14, 2010 07:25 PM (GkYyh)
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"Art" is such a subjective term.
Handy rule of thumb:
If it offends Christians, conservatives, or white people with real jobs, it's Art.
If it offends anyone else, it's Hate Speech.
Handy rule of thumb:
If it offends Christians, conservatives, or white people with real jobs, it's Art.
If it offends anyone else, it's Hate Speech.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (OkT2m)
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First, VILKS packed the crowd? On what evidence do you base that claim?
See anyone else there?
In this Vilks film, why are the gay images offensive?
Ask them.
Oh, and I don't watch South Park.
I'm saying this was deliberate goading. And was filmed for that intent.
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
See anyone else there?
In this Vilks film, why are the gay images offensive?
Ask them.
Oh, and I don't watch South Park.
I'm saying this was deliberate goading. And was filmed for that intent.
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (6oDXl)
Posted by: Dang at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (UA4gE)
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i think it will be stopped because we will have liberal allies on this one. Even people like Chuck Shchumer and other NYC jews won't stand for this.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 07:06 PM (DKV43)
I think you underestimate the capacity for liberal Jews in New York to bend over backwards to prove how unobjectionable they can be to their neighbors. Some of them will keep quiet because they don't want to attract attention that might turn anti-Semitic, and others will actively lobby for the mosque because they want to prove to themselves and others what good tolerant Progressives they are.
I am hoping that this issue and related ones (like trying KSM in Manhattan and more terror plots directed against NYC) will cause some of the Jews who've been willing to go along with Progressivism to wake up and realize that Progressives are perfectly willing to see mass murder take place in NYC if the alternative is to appear intolerant or racially insensitive. And when that awakening happens, those newly-aware Jews will choose survival over political correctness.
Posted by: Ben at May 14, 2010 07:06 PM (DKV43)
I think you underestimate the capacity for liberal Jews in New York to bend over backwards to prove how unobjectionable they can be to their neighbors. Some of them will keep quiet because they don't want to attract attention that might turn anti-Semitic, and others will actively lobby for the mosque because they want to prove to themselves and others what good tolerant Progressives they are.
I am hoping that this issue and related ones (like trying KSM in Manhattan and more terror plots directed against NYC) will cause some of the Jews who've been willing to go along with Progressivism to wake up and realize that Progressives are perfectly willing to see mass murder take place in NYC if the alternative is to appear intolerant or racially insensitive. And when that awakening happens, those newly-aware Jews will choose survival over political correctness.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:27 PM (7AOgy)
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I'm sure this has been stated before in this post, WhileI believe the film to be offensive to Muslims, it isn't anything more than any westerners, or other peoples in the world have to hear about their respective religions.
You have hurt feelings? i understand, butit's apart of being alive in the 20th century, G-d can take care of himself, He doesn't need You to even any score.
You have hurt feelings? i understand, butit's apart of being alive in the 20th century, G-d can take care of himself, He doesn't need You to even any score.
Posted by: nedacry at May 14, 2010 07:28 PM (ax2VZ)
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The denizens of NYC are making their own shallow pit by allowing this mosque to happen. I'm out of patience for them, they are on their own.
The denizens of NYC are making their own shallow pit by allowing this mosque to happen. I'm out of patience for them, they are on their own.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 07:28 PM (+RPh+)
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Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (6oDXl)
the 'see anyone else there' part of your argument doesn't make sense;Your claim is that Lars rounded up these 'protestors' so that they would......protest and give him publicity? Theo Van Gogh publicity?
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (6oDXl)
the 'see anyone else there' part of your argument doesn't make sense;Your claim is that Lars rounded up these 'protestors' so that they would......protest and give him publicity? Theo Van Gogh publicity?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 07:30 PM (JrRME)
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Next time Air Force One buzzes NYC, perhaps they can waggle the wings over the soon to be mosque next to Ground Zero.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 07:31 PM (aE/nJ)
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If I were Vilks I think I'd be doing web seminars anyhow. hire a bunch of bad-ass motherfuckers and put anyone who started mouthing off in an ambalamps.
Posted by: Ace's liver
Feeqst!
If I were Vilks I think I'd be doing web seminars anyhow. hire a bunch of bad-ass motherfuckers and put anyone who started mouthing off in an ambalamps.
Posted by: Ace's liver
Feeqst!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:33 PM (zgd5N)
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And let's build a
10 story Church on their corpses..... go troll elsewhere, there are not
takers here. We want radicals stopped.
Posted by: Ben
Hey, Ben... Bite me.
I ain't real keen on the idea of Christians having unhindered control of the reins, either. But given the choice of one or the other, considering Christians don't CHOP OFF YOUR FUCKING HEAD if you don't come to church, I'd have to go with them over the muzzies any day.
If you aren't willing to give a swift kick in the nuts to anyone who wants to remake America into their muzzie/commie vision of utopia, or their sympathizers, then you probably need a swift shot to the sack as well.
And let's build a
10 story Church on their corpses..... go troll elsewhere, there are not
takers here. We want radicals stopped.
Posted by: Ben
Hey, Ben... Bite me.
I ain't real keen on the idea of Christians having unhindered control of the reins, either. But given the choice of one or the other, considering Christians don't CHOP OFF YOUR FUCKING HEAD if you don't come to church, I'd have to go with them over the muzzies any day.
If you aren't willing to give a swift kick in the nuts to anyone who wants to remake America into their muzzie/commie vision of utopia, or their sympathizers, then you probably need a swift shot to the sack as well.
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at May 14, 2010 07:33 PM (XVZOO)
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Based on that film -- and all the others we've seen over the years -- it really does appear that "allahu akbar" is the Muslim equivalent of "kick him again".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 07:33 PM (0onAO)
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Some of them will keep quiet because they don't want to attract
attention that might turn anti-Semitic, and others will actively lobby
for the mosque because they want to prove to themselves and others what
good tolerant Progressives they are.
I really believe that to leftist Jews, it's better to be dead than called unhip
attention that might turn anti-Semitic, and others will actively lobby
for the mosque because they want to prove to themselves and others what
good tolerant Progressives they are.
I really believe that to leftist Jews, it's better to be dead than called unhip
Posted by: kbdabear at May 14, 2010 07:34 PM (sYxEE)
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I'm saying this was deliberate goading. And was filmed for that intent.
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (6oDXl)
Yes, it was deliberate goading. And it was very effective. And it should be replicated ten thousand fold all across the West.
Unless you really believe that in the name of not offending the religious sensitivities of a particular group, all Westerners should subject themselves to censorship of speech, dress, behavior and thought.
This wasn't an example of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, the cross-dressing gay male troupe, disrupting a Catholic mass in a cathedral. This was an artist presenting his work in a public, secular space. As such, it should not be subject to censorship by a particular religion's adherents: they should be free to denounce it, but not to silence it or its creator.
But if you really believe that we should not offend others' religious sensitivities, then I must demand that you immediately convert to my religion. You see, by refusing to follow my religion, you implicitly deny its perfect Truth -- that offends me, and the only way to remove the offense is for you to adopt my beliefs. Otherwise, I can't be responsible for what you've goaded me into doing.
Get it NOW?
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:26 PM (6oDXl)
Yes, it was deliberate goading. And it was very effective. And it should be replicated ten thousand fold all across the West.
Unless you really believe that in the name of not offending the religious sensitivities of a particular group, all Westerners should subject themselves to censorship of speech, dress, behavior and thought.
This wasn't an example of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, the cross-dressing gay male troupe, disrupting a Catholic mass in a cathedral. This was an artist presenting his work in a public, secular space. As such, it should not be subject to censorship by a particular religion's adherents: they should be free to denounce it, but not to silence it or its creator.
But if you really believe that we should not offend others' religious sensitivities, then I must demand that you immediately convert to my religion. You see, by refusing to follow my religion, you implicitly deny its perfect Truth -- that offends me, and the only way to remove the offense is for you to adopt my beliefs. Otherwise, I can't be responsible for what you've goaded me into doing.
Get it NOW?
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:35 PM (7AOgy)
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the 'see anyone else there' part of your argument doesn't make sense;
Look at the film again. Gay stuff at the beginning, crowd erupts. Camera looks at the crowd. And for the next several minutes as the crowd protests.
Seems pretty deliberate to me. Or why even show thepresentation, and then film the audience reaction?
Give me a break...
Tell me again how it doesn't make sense.
Someone wanted to provoke something. That's all I'm saying.
Look at the film again. Gay stuff at the beginning, crowd erupts. Camera looks at the crowd. And for the next several minutes as the crowd protests.
Seems pretty deliberate to me. Or why even show thepresentation, and then film the audience reaction?
Give me a break...
Tell me again how it doesn't make sense.
Someone wanted to provoke something. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:38 PM (6oDXl)
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And these are the so called "moderate muslims"
BTW... Allahu Akbar means "Allah is greater" as in Allah is greater than your God.
I think the only way this eventually ends is with a large hole in the ground formerly known as Mecca. THEN and only then will they know that Allah is NOT greater.
BTW... Allahu Akbar means "Allah is greater" as in Allah is greater than your God.
I think the only way this eventually ends is with a large hole in the ground formerly known as Mecca. THEN and only then will they know that Allah is NOT greater.
Posted by: muddywood at May 14, 2010 07:38 PM (hkYHo)
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125
If I were Vilks I think I'd be doing web
seminars anyhow. hire a bunch of bad-ass motherfuckers and put
anyone who started mouthing off in an ambalamps.
Posted by: Ace's liver
Feeqst!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:33 PM (zgd5N)
You know, that's true. I wonder if you can still hire the Hell's Angels to do security.
If I were Vilks I think I'd be doing web
seminars anyhow. hire a bunch of bad-ass motherfuckers and put
anyone who started mouthing off in an ambalamps.
Posted by: Ace's liver
Feeqst!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:33 PM (zgd5N)
You know, that's true. I wonder if you can still hire the Hell's Angels to do security.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (XIXhw)
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#115, Kratos, you live down near Nam Grunt in Lake Charles? What are you guys doing this weekend?
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (XE8yI)
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The lesson taught here is, once again, that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what they want.
err go, terrorism works.
Did I use err go correctly?
The lesson taught here is, once again, that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what they want.
err go, terrorism works.
Did I use err go correctly?
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (fFl1M)
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I really believe that to leftist Jews, it's better to be dead than called unhip
Posted by: kbdabear at May 14, 2010 07:34 PM (sYxEE)
Dig this: Art Spiegelman Puts 9/11 In the Crosshairs.
Here's a guy so committed to Bush hatred that he has to figure out some way to understand 9/11 in that context -- he can't allow himself to believe in Bush's response to 9/11, because that would be as big a disaster to his psyche as seeing the Twin Towers fall was.
Posted by: kbdabear at May 14, 2010 07:34 PM (sYxEE)
Dig this: Art Spiegelman Puts 9/11 In the Crosshairs.
Here's a guy so committed to Bush hatred that he has to figure out some way to understand 9/11 in that context -- he can't allow himself to believe in Bush's response to 9/11, because that would be as big a disaster to his psyche as seeing the Twin Towers fall was.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (7AOgy)
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Look at these fucks chanting "Muhammed! Muhammed! Muhammed!" like it's a fucking soccer cheer.
Can you imagine a bunch of Christians doing that?
Oh, but snapdragon and all the other leftist booger eaters just love 'em, now don't they? See, they're angry about their tax dollars being misused or something. (Dumbest fucking speculation/excuse making eveh)
See, when someone draws a picture of Muhammed with a bomb on his head using private dollars to buy the pen and paper, those Muslims are all pretty chill about it.
These animals are everything the Left claims that Christians are, and then some. But they're all so strangely silent on about their religious demands and offended sensibilities, aren't they?
Can you imagine a bunch of Christians doing that?
Oh, but snapdragon and all the other leftist booger eaters just love 'em, now don't they? See, they're angry about their tax dollars being misused or something. (Dumbest fucking speculation/excuse making eveh)
See, when someone draws a picture of Muhammed with a bomb on his head using private dollars to buy the pen and paper, those Muslims are all pretty chill about it.
These animals are everything the Left claims that Christians are, and then some. But they're all so strangely silent on about their religious demands and offended sensibilities, aren't they?
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (QoR4a)
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Did I use err go correctly?
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (fFl1M)
Yes, but it's spelled "ergo" - one word.
Posted by: Dynomutt After Dark at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (fFl1M)
Yes, but it's spelled "ergo" - one word.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:42 PM (7AOgy)
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Slightly O/T:
My husband wants to see this go viral; he would like to see it happen; it's his idea to send a message to the NYC idiots who are allowing that super mosque.
Find the address of the planning commission -- every veteran who has served since 9/11, every family member of any veteran, living or dead; every family member or friend who had a loved one die on 9/11...put a dab of your blood on a white handkerchief and send it to the planning commission.
It was our blood that was spilt and has been spilt and will be spilt fighting Islamic terrorism...it's the planning commission and people like them who wave the white flag of surrender...send them a message -- no more appeasement and pandering at the cost of our blood.
My husband wants to see this go viral; he would like to see it happen; it's his idea to send a message to the NYC idiots who are allowing that super mosque.
Find the address of the planning commission -- every veteran who has served since 9/11, every family member of any veteran, living or dead; every family member or friend who had a loved one die on 9/11...put a dab of your blood on a white handkerchief and send it to the planning commission.
It was our blood that was spilt and has been spilt and will be spilt fighting Islamic terrorism...it's the planning commission and people like them who wave the white flag of surrender...send them a message -- no more appeasement and pandering at the cost of our blood.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 14, 2010 07:43 PM (5/yRG)
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You know, that's true. I wonder if you can still hire the Hell's Angels to do security.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (XIXhw)
Naw, you hire a lot of very big, buff bodybuilders from a gay gym. That way, when they put the beatdown on the Islamicist ruffians, the ruffians get a real dose of humiliation to go with their bruises.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2010 07:41 PM (XIXhw)
Naw, you hire a lot of very big, buff bodybuilders from a gay gym. That way, when they put the beatdown on the Islamicist ruffians, the ruffians get a real dose of humiliation to go with their bruises.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:43 PM (7AOgy)
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133
#115, Kratos, you live down near Nam Grunt in Lake Charles? What are you
guys doing this weekend?
lol, I meant to say I saw him on the blog. I don't live anywhere near him - I live in Central PA.
#115, Kratos, you live down near Nam Grunt in Lake Charles? What are you
guys doing this weekend?
lol, I meant to say I saw him on the blog. I don't live anywhere near him - I live in Central PA.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 07:43 PM (c0A3e)
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I'm saying this was deliberate goading. And was filmed for that
intent.
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
Posted by: HH
The freedoms that Western civilization has bequeathed to the free world include free speech, not the freedom from being offended.
Those that started the mini-riot knew of the artist and knew of his work. They came because they wanted to riot.
The problem we're having with your statements is that you are blaming the artist for being attacked. Sorry man, that's bullshit. It's akin to blaming a rape victim for being provocative.
By rewarding those that are offended by other's speech, you are denigrating free speech and you will only reap more violence. Giving in to the most violent of protesters is NOT the road to peace.
I'm saying this was deliberate goading. And was filmed for that
intent.
And I myself wouldn't do that. Not concerning religion.
Posted by: HH
The freedoms that Western civilization has bequeathed to the free world include free speech, not the freedom from being offended.
Those that started the mini-riot knew of the artist and knew of his work. They came because they wanted to riot.
The problem we're having with your statements is that you are blaming the artist for being attacked. Sorry man, that's bullshit. It's akin to blaming a rape victim for being provocative.
By rewarding those that are offended by other's speech, you are denigrating free speech and you will only reap more violence. Giving in to the most violent of protesters is NOT the road to peace.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:44 PM (zgd5N)
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.put a dab of your blood on a white handkerchief and send it to the
planning commission.
They would charge the senders with biological terrorism, you just know it.
.put a dab of your blood on a white handkerchief and send it to the
planning commission.
They would charge the senders with biological terrorism, you just know it.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 07:44 PM (+RPh+)
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Get it NOW?
Yeah Stuiec, if your are really, really religious and someone is showing a film about the gay Jesus. In front of not only your face but your parents and priest.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.
Yeah Stuiec, if your are really, really religious and someone is showing a film about the gay Jesus. In front of not only your face but your parents and priest.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:45 PM (6oDXl)
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We always forget.
It was all of the different attacks. The Achilles, the barracks attack in Lebanon, Daniel Pearl, the first Trade center, the second Trade Center, ad nauseum.
All, all of our military servicemen and women, whose parents received them home in bags.
These are the Americans who fought the caliphate.
The Europeans who are courageous enough to stand up, one by one, in what is now dhimmitude...
Theo, Ali, and Lars..they are true heroes, as well.
It was all of the different attacks. The Achilles, the barracks attack in Lebanon, Daniel Pearl, the first Trade center, the second Trade Center, ad nauseum.
All, all of our military servicemen and women, whose parents received them home in bags.
These are the Americans who fought the caliphate.
The Europeans who are courageous enough to stand up, one by one, in what is now dhimmitude...
Theo, Ali, and Lars..they are true heroes, as well.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (aE/nJ)
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Allahu Akbar actually means "the believers get shirts" in English.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (SbFur)
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#140, oh. I keep trying to link up with him (I'm an hour north at Fort Polk these days) and go get a beer, but it hasn't happened yet.
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (XE8yI)
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Sort of related to the whole “we’re going to hell in a handbasket” theme of this post, I just came across one of the scariest sentences I’ve seen in a long time in the New Yorker:
“When the actor Ashton Kutcher was in Moscow in February, as part of a US State Department technology delegation…”
By the way, this is the same issue of the New Yorker (this week’s) that has a letter to the editor from someone named William Ayers from Chicago who is quibbling about the definition of terrorism someone used in an article.
“When the actor Ashton Kutcher was in Moscow in February, as part of a US State Department technology delegation…”
By the way, this is the same issue of the New Yorker (this week’s) that has a letter to the editor from someone named William Ayers from Chicago who is quibbling about the definition of terrorism someone used in an article.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (RZ8pf)
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Someone wanted to provoke
something. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:38 PM (6oDXl)
Yes, this 'artist' earns his Beans Bread by provoking people. Big whoop. That's not important; the reaction of the cops immediately and the university later is what is important hereThe cops let a mob taunt, curse, ridicule, and otherwise insult them. Worse--much worse--the university let these people intimidate them into preventing the public display of Typically Crappy Art by essentially banning Bad Boy Lars.
The reaction of the crowd is not the point; the reaction of the 'authorities' is. Does that give you a break?
something. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:38 PM (6oDXl)
Yes, this 'artist' earns his Beans Bread by provoking people. Big whoop. That's not important; the reaction of the cops immediately and the university later is what is important hereThe cops let a mob taunt, curse, ridicule, and otherwise insult them. Worse--much worse--the university let these people intimidate them into preventing the public display of Typically Crappy Art by essentially banning Bad Boy Lars.
The reaction of the crowd is not the point; the reaction of the 'authorities' is. Does that give you a break?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (JrRME)
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Naw, you hire a lot of very big,
buff bodybuilders from a gay gym. That way, when they put the beatdown
on the Islamicist ruffians, the ruffians get a real dose of humiliation
to go with their bruises.
Posted by: stuiec
Plus, he could sell the tape to err, um, websites and PROFIT!
( man, if this AoSHQ IPO ever goes through we are so money. )
buff bodybuilders from a gay gym. That way, when they put the beatdown
on the Islamicist ruffians, the ruffians get a real dose of humiliation
to go with their bruises.
Posted by: stuiec
Plus, he could sell the tape to err, um, websites and PROFIT!
( man, if this AoSHQ IPO ever goes through we are so money. )
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:47 PM (zgd5N)
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Find the address of the planning commission -- every veteran who has served since 9/11, every family member of any veteran, living or dead; every family member or friend who had a loved one die on 9/11...put a dab of your blood on a white handkerchief and send it to the planning commission.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 14, 2010 07:43 PM (5/yRG)
On first reading, I was going to suggest that the blood would be a problem because the recipients would call it biohazardous waste. But then I realized that's a feature, not a bug: if they really received handkerchiefs in the thousands and tens of thousands, the images of the biohazard teams having to deal with the volume would be excellent publicity.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 14, 2010 07:43 PM (5/yRG)
On first reading, I was going to suggest that the blood would be a problem because the recipients would call it biohazardous waste. But then I realized that's a feature, not a bug: if they really received handkerchiefs in the thousands and tens of thousands, the images of the biohazard teams having to deal with the volume would be excellent publicity.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:48 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Dynomutt at May 14, 2010 07:49 PM (fFl1M)
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146
#140, oh. I keep trying to link up with him (I'm an hour north at Fort
Polk these days) and go get a beer, but it hasn't happened yet.
I wished I lived near him - my mouth waters whenever he describes what he's cooking or grilling.
#140, oh. I keep trying to link up with him (I'm an hour north at Fort
Polk these days) and go get a beer, but it hasn't happened yet.
I wished I lived near him - my mouth waters whenever he describes what he's cooking or grilling.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 07:49 PM (c0A3e)
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Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:46 PM (RZ8pf)
Hi, sweetie. Whenever I see "PGIS" on the news, I think of you.
Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain...........whatever
Hi, sweetie. Whenever I see "PGIS" on the news, I think of you.
Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain...........whatever
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 07:49 PM (JrRME)
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Plus, he could sell the tape to err, um, websites and PROFIT! ( man, if this AoSHQ IPO ever goes through we are so money. )
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:47 PM (zgd5N)
Wouldn't you love to see a clip of a huge gay guy holding the forehead of some little Muslim fella while the poor little guy swung his fists in impotent - and I do mean impotent - rage?
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:47 PM (zgd5N)
Wouldn't you love to see a clip of a huge gay guy holding the forehead of some little Muslim fella while the poor little guy swung his fists in impotent - and I do mean impotent - rage?
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:50 PM (7AOgy)
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Someone wanted to provoke something. That's all I'm saying.
So the fuck what? It's his right to make provocative statements. It's not their right to riot in response.
Man up or admit your a convert.
So the fuck what? It's his right to make provocative statements. It's not their right to riot in response.
Man up or admit your a convert.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 07:50 PM (0onAO)
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and that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:45 PM (6oDXl)
You have no faith if you don't assault anyone who insults your religious beliefs?
What an odd definition of faith.
Why are you pretending these outraged Muslim idiots were forced to watch this? They knew what this guy does with his "art." Why show up to watch it at all?
When I went to a Louis Black show and he insulted my faith, my culture, and my political ideology, I didn't storm the stage. Me and my friend walked out and got ourselves a couple of beers at the bar next door.
Then you have no faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:45 PM (6oDXl)
You have no faith if you don't assault anyone who insults your religious beliefs?
What an odd definition of faith.
Why are you pretending these outraged Muslim idiots were forced to watch this? They knew what this guy does with his "art." Why show up to watch it at all?
When I went to a Louis Black show and he insulted my faith, my culture, and my political ideology, I didn't storm the stage. Me and my friend walked out and got ourselves a couple of beers at the bar next door.
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 07:50 PM (QoR4a)
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But not so sorry that I'm going to give a shit about whatever blows up next in a city that's brought it upon itself.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 14, 2010 07:49 PM (pGNEx)
Well, as my middle daughter is going to college in NYC, I kind of have to care.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 14, 2010 07:49 PM (pGNEx)
Well, as my middle daughter is going to college in NYC, I kind of have to care.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 07:50 PM (7AOgy)
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First they came for the Muslims and I did nothing because I was not a Muslim, then I looked around and thought: "Hey this is pretty cool!"
Posted by: KZnextzone at May 14, 2010 07:51 PM (veaqz)
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#147“When the actor Ashton
Kutcher was in Moscow in February, as part of a US State Department technology
delegation…”
WTF? What qualifications does Ashton Kutcher have?
Kutcher was in Moscow in February, as part of a US State Department technology
delegation…”
WTF? What qualifications does Ashton Kutcher have?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 07:51 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 07:51 PM (+RPh+)
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O/T: If PA's around, Facebook is backing off.
Posted by: Texan Headknocker at May 14, 2010 07:52 PM (QZYZY)
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And, also semi related, in terms of making the lifestyle of Islam acceptable, MSN has an article today about a new book coming out from an American woman who spent 18 months in the harem of the Sultan of Brunei called “My Life in a Modern Harem.”
I was always half hearted before in my belief that there will soon be chaos, but the last few days have really taught me that chaos can’t come soon enough for America.
I was always half hearted before in my belief that there will soon be chaos, but the last few days have really taught me that chaos can’t come soon enough for America.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:52 PM (RZ8pf)
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Two year olds can't control themselves, or sometimes thirteen year olds.
Adults can control themselves. That is kind of a western definiton of adult.
No riots ensued after piss christ, or anything else.
Deal with provocation with a better idea, and win that way, or be seen as a 2 year old.
Adults can control themselves. That is kind of a western definiton of adult.
No riots ensued after piss christ, or anything else.
Deal with provocation with a better idea, and win that way, or be seen as a 2 year old.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 07:53 PM (aE/nJ)
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Yeah Stuiec, if your are really, really religious and
someone is showing a film about the gay Jesus. In front of not only your
face but your parents and priest.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.And their reaction would be to leave. Maybe complain later. Not to riot. Why? Because they're civilized people.I'll take that "then you have no faith" to be a statement that you admire the Muzzies for being violent. They're so true to their own faith, eh?
Yeah Stuiec, if your are really, really religious and
someone is showing a film about the gay Jesus. In front of not only your
face but your parents and priest.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.And their reaction would be to leave. Maybe complain later. Not to riot. Why? Because they're civilized people.I'll take that "then you have no faith" to be a statement that you admire the Muzzies for being violent. They're so true to their own faith, eh?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 07:53 PM (0onAO)
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"But, as everyone on the receiving end of artistic provocations for thirty years can tell you -- we're supposed to understand that ideas may incite, and in fact that is the very point of them, and that our right to not be offended doesn't trump anyone else's right to give offense."
True enough, but the corollary is that if you set out to piss people off, don't be surprisedwhen you succeed. The whole freedom of speech/freedom of expression thing basically means that the government can't say in advance what you can or can't say. It provides no guarantee that you won't get your ass badly beaten by the listeners after you say it. Reciting passages from Mein Kampf at a Shoah Foundation meeting probably would go over like a reggae band at a Klan rally.
True enough, but the corollary is that if you set out to piss people off, don't be surprisedwhen you succeed. The whole freedom of speech/freedom of expression thing basically means that the government can't say in advance what you can or can't say. It provides no guarantee that you won't get your ass badly beaten by the listeners after you say it. Reciting passages from Mein Kampf at a Shoah Foundation meeting probably would go over like a reggae band at a Klan rally.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 14, 2010 07:54 PM (kmEfr)
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What
qualifications does Ashton Kutcher have?
What qualifications did Kumar have, other than being Wee Wee's 'type'?
What
qualifications does Ashton Kutcher have?
What qualifications did Kumar have, other than being Wee Wee's 'type'?
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 07:54 PM (+RPh+)
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That’s me SantaRosaStan, bringing chaos to the world economy!
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:54 PM (RZ8pf)
168
if your Christian faith is so weak that you think a bunch of arsty-fartsy pukes can hurt Jesus, you need to learn more about Jesus.
BUT, I do agree that this was a shitty deliberate act to incite a violent reaction. I mean, this was a really really faggy way to protest muslims and their awful behavior.
if your Christian faith is so weak that you think a bunch of arsty-fartsy pukes can hurt Jesus, you need to learn more about Jesus.
BUT, I do agree that this was a shitty deliberate act to incite a violent reaction. I mean, this was a really really faggy way to protest muslims and their awful behavior.
Posted by: Dynomutt at May 14, 2010 07:55 PM (fFl1M)
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You have no faith if you don't assault anyone who insults your
religious beliefs?What an odd definition of faith.
It's the definition used by people who have no comprehension of faith, and no respect for anything but violence. It is, in short, a leftist definition of faith.
religious beliefs?What an odd definition of faith.
It's the definition used by people who have no comprehension of faith, and no respect for anything but violence. It is, in short, a leftist definition of faith.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 07:56 PM (0onAO)
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#167 What qualifications
did Kumar have, other than being Wee Wee's 'type'?
Hmmm..I never pegged Kutcher to be that "type", but maybe he grew sick of Demi Moore.
did Kumar have, other than being Wee Wee's 'type'?
Hmmm..I never pegged Kutcher to be that "type", but maybe he grew sick of Demi Moore.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 14, 2010 07:57 PM (c0A3e)
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WTF? What qualifications does Ashton Kutcher have?Posted by: Kratos
I think it was a problem of mistranslation again. Putin wanted to meet an expert in cougar hunting.
I think it was a problem of mistranslation again. Putin wanted to meet an expert in cougar hunting.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 07:58 PM (zgd5N)
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.I never pegged
Kutcher to be that "type"
You gotta be kidding. That dude is gayer than Liberace's hairdressers boyfriend.
.I never pegged
Kutcher to be that "type"
You gotta be kidding. That dude is gayer than Liberace's hairdressers boyfriend.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 14, 2010 07:58 PM (+RPh+)
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When I went to a Louis Black show and he insulted my faith, my
culture, and my political ideology, I didn't storm the stage. Me and my
friend walked out and got ourselves a couple of beers at the bar next
door.
Way too long ago, a girlfriend took me to a Sam Kinnison show. (Yeah, I'm that old.) This was in Peoria; his hometown. He insulted her home town; I can't remember now if the joke was they were stuck-up bitches or complete sluts.
She laughed along with everyone else.
Hell, Kinnison made jokes about Christianity almost constantly. Remember the one about Christ being able to watch an eclipse through his stigmata?
Some people may have said Kinnison got what was coming to him, but no one threatened his life.
When I went to a Louis Black show and he insulted my faith, my
culture, and my political ideology, I didn't storm the stage. Me and my
friend walked out and got ourselves a couple of beers at the bar next
door.
Way too long ago, a girlfriend took me to a Sam Kinnison show. (Yeah, I'm that old.) This was in Peoria; his hometown. He insulted her home town; I can't remember now if the joke was they were stuck-up bitches or complete sluts.
She laughed along with everyone else.
Hell, Kinnison made jokes about Christianity almost constantly. Remember the one about Christ being able to watch an eclipse through his stigmata?
Some people may have said Kinnison got what was coming to him, but no one threatened his life.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 07:58 PM (0onAO)
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Yeah Stuiec, if your are really, really religious and someone is showing a film about the gay Jesus. In front of not only your face but your parents and priest.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:45 PM (6oDXl)
If my reaction was to attack the filmmaker violently and demand that he shut up now and forever, I would betray the fact that my faith is so very weak that mere mockery and insults could shake it.
If my reaction to such offensive speech was to demand it be silenced in the name of my religious beliefs, I would be in direct opposition to my duty as an American to defend the Constitution, with special emphasis on the First Amendment.
And if my reaction was so diametrically opposed to Voltaire's dictum -- paraphrased, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to your death the right to say it" -- I would have no business calling myself a good citizen of the West.
And I reiterate: if you really think that's what faith is all about, then you better convert to Islam right away, because until you do, you're a walking, breathing insult to everything the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is and was, and you shouldn't be surprised or even unhappy if some really religious person decides to cause you to desist from walking and breathing.
That is, if you really believe the crap you are spewing.
And that wouldn't cause a reaction?
Then you have no faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 07:45 PM (6oDXl)
If my reaction was to attack the filmmaker violently and demand that he shut up now and forever, I would betray the fact that my faith is so very weak that mere mockery and insults could shake it.
If my reaction to such offensive speech was to demand it be silenced in the name of my religious beliefs, I would be in direct opposition to my duty as an American to defend the Constitution, with special emphasis on the First Amendment.
And if my reaction was so diametrically opposed to Voltaire's dictum -- paraphrased, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to your death the right to say it" -- I would have no business calling myself a good citizen of the West.
And I reiterate: if you really think that's what faith is all about, then you better convert to Islam right away, because until you do, you're a walking, breathing insult to everything the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is and was, and you shouldn't be surprised or even unhappy if some really religious person decides to cause you to desist from walking and breathing.
That is, if you really believe the crap you are spewing.
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 08:00 PM (7AOgy)
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That’s me SantaRosaStan,
bringing chaos to the world economy!
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:54 PM (RZ8pf)
If not you, who? If not lately, when?Should I buy silver, or dabble in Canadian dollars?
bringing chaos to the world economy!
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 14, 2010 07:54 PM (RZ8pf)
If not you, who? If not lately, when?Should I buy silver, or dabble in Canadian dollars?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 08:01 PM (JrRME)
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All good Christians should know this: Sticks stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me. I'm serious.
Because once we, Christian or whatever, start believing names and words and photos, etc. can hurt us, the Leftists have won. I am dead set against all forms hate crime laws. The very thought of so-called Hate Crime legislation should sicken every conservative and libertarian and liberal.
Sticks stones...now that's a different story.
All good Christians should know this: Sticks stones can break my bones, but names can never hurt me. I'm serious.
Because once we, Christian or whatever, start believing names and words and photos, etc. can hurt us, the Leftists have won. I am dead set against all forms hate crime laws. The very thought of so-called Hate Crime legislation should sicken every conservative and libertarian and liberal.
Sticks stones...now that's a different story.
Posted by: Dynomutt at May 14, 2010 08:01 PM (fFl1M)
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@38: "In all fairness they did kick our ass the one time we thought it would be cool to own that chunk of land."
Excepting for the small fact that "they" (Canadians) didn't exist at that point in time. They wereBritish. It's kind of like saying that Sweden and Norway conquered Sicily - they didn't, the Vikings did.
Excepting for the small fact that "they" (Canadians) didn't exist at that point in time. They wereBritish. It's kind of like saying that Sweden and Norway conquered Sicily - they didn't, the Vikings did.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 14, 2010 08:03 PM (kmEfr)
Posted by: Dynomutt at May 14, 2010 08:05 PM (fFl1M)
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Of forcryingt out loud. The audience is packed,starts to show a gay film,and you wonder why the crowd gets so upset? And the crowd is Muslim?
Problem is, you guys seem to have NO fucking idea how much religion is intertwined with lives.
Why are you pretending these outraged Muslim idiots were forced to watch this? They knew what this guy does with his "art." Why show up to watch it at all?
Indeed. Where did this come from, what were the invitations?
I'm just saying the reaction was normal. And it was a set-up.
Problem is, you guys seem to have NO fucking idea how much religion is intertwined with lives.
Why are you pretending these outraged Muslim idiots were forced to watch this? They knew what this guy does with his "art." Why show up to watch it at all?
Indeed. Where did this come from, what were the invitations?
I'm just saying the reaction was normal. And it was a set-up.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:06 PM (6oDXl)
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I bet the Scandi cops wish theyhad Tazers..............
Posted by: artesianorst at May 14, 2010 08:08 PM (+bKZL)
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Of forcryingt out loud. The audience is packed,starts to show a gay
film,and you wonder why the crowd gets so upset? And the crowd is
Muslim?
The audience was voluntary, asshat. They chose to be there. They could have walked out peacefully, or simply not been there in the first place.
If there was a set up, the jihadis were setting things up so one of them could kill Vilks.
Of forcryingt out loud. The audience is packed,starts to show a gay
film,and you wonder why the crowd gets so upset? And the crowd is
Muslim?
The audience was voluntary, asshat. They chose to be there. They could have walked out peacefully, or simply not been there in the first place.
If there was a set up, the jihadis were setting things up so one of them could kill Vilks.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 08:14 PM (0onAO)
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I'm just saying the reaction was normal.
No, it was not. Civilized men and women do not react to images and an old punk song by attempting to beat up the guy running the projector.
No, it was not. Civilized men and women do not react to images and an old punk song by attempting to beat up the guy running the projector.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2010 08:15 PM (0onAO)
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If my reaction was to attack the filmmaker violently and demand that he shut up now and forever, I would betray the fact that my faith is so very weak that mere mockery and insults could shake it.
Well let me tell you right now, Martin Luther would have condemned you to the stake for even thinking that.
Think I'm joking?
You really don't know much about faith.
Well let me tell you right now, Martin Luther would have condemned you to the stake for even thinking that.
Think I'm joking?
You really don't know much about faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:16 PM (6oDXl)
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Problem is, you guys seem to have NO fucking idea how much religion is
intertwined with lives.
???????
We don't?
No one here is religious?
I'm just saying the reaction was normal.
For a bunch of nutbar Muslims? You bet. Wouldn't be normal for Christians or Hindus or Buddhists.
That's kinda the point of the video. That and the lack of response by the police.
intertwined with lives.
???????
We don't?
No one here is religious?
I'm just saying the reaction was normal.
For a bunch of nutbar Muslims? You bet. Wouldn't be normal for Christians or Hindus or Buddhists.
That's kinda the point of the video. That and the lack of response by the police.
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 08:17 PM (QoR4a)
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Just do what the lefties are doing to Arizona, boycott the area of the planned building. Boycott NY for the planned Mosque. Screw it, if its ok to do it becasue illegal immigration doesn't sit right with the lefties, let the rest of us do it to NY for the outrageous plans. Got it, boycott NY until they lose so much revenue, they give in. In this case, the building isn't against the law unlike illegal immigration. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander
Hit them with their own tactic
Hit them with their own tactic
Posted by: Screw them at May 14, 2010 08:17 PM (U3+Xc)
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I'm just saying the reaction was normal. And it
was a set-up.
Posted by: HH
And we don't agree with you. Do we get a free shot at your nuts at the next AoSHQ meetup?
I'm just saying the reaction was normal. And it
was a set-up.
Posted by: HH
And we don't agree with you. Do we get a free shot at your nuts at the next AoSHQ meetup?
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 08:18 PM (zgd5N)
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I'm just saying the reaction was normal.
Normal for who? What's your definition of normal?
Normal for who? What's your definition of normal?
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:20 PM (aE/nJ)
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The audience was voluntary, asshat.
Oh, and where was this? And explain to me again, how the crowd was almost all Muslim, with police nearby, and this wasn't some sort ofprovocitve piece. Especially with the gay stuff.
Go ahead dude...
Oh, and where was this? And explain to me again, how the crowd was almost all Muslim, with police nearby, and this wasn't some sort ofprovocitve piece. Especially with the gay stuff.
Go ahead dude...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:22 PM (6oDXl)
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Well let me tell you right now, Martin Luther would
have condemned you to the stake for even thinking that.
Think I'm joking?
You really don't know much about faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:16 PM (6oDXl)
What if you're not Lutheran?
Oh, here's an interesting quote by Martin Luther.
Nothing good ever comes of violence.
Martin
Luther
have condemned you to the stake for even thinking that.
Think I'm joking?
You really don't know much about faith.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:16 PM (6oDXl)
What if you're not Lutheran?
Oh, here's an interesting quote by Martin Luther.
Nothing good ever comes of violence.
Martin
Luther
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 08:24 PM (QoR4a)
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Problem is, you guys seem to have NO fucking idea
how much religion is intertwined with lives.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:06 PM (6oDXl)
Your argument is weak, and badly flawed. The issue IS NOT how the crowd reacted; it is how the police and university reacted to the crowdYes, religious fanatics from a barbarous non-culture get easily excited and use violence--big surprise there. What makes this an issue is that the 'authorities' BACKED DOWN.
It does not matter what role religion plays in the life of anyone; no one has the right to shut down a presentation of Crappy Art and no one has the right to get a Crappy Artist banned because it offends them
how much religion is intertwined with lives.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:06 PM (6oDXl)
Your argument is weak, and badly flawed. The issue IS NOT how the crowd reacted; it is how the police and university reacted to the crowdYes, religious fanatics from a barbarous non-culture get easily excited and use violence--big surprise there. What makes this an issue is that the 'authorities' BACKED DOWN.
It does not matter what role religion plays in the life of anyone; no one has the right to shut down a presentation of Crappy Art and no one has the right to get a Crappy Artist banned because it offends them
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 08:25 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: real joe at May 14, 2010 08:25 PM (WjerO)
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@185: "No, it was not. Civilized men and women do not react to images and an old punk song by attempting to beat up the guy running the projector."
Actually, in most countries, the law clearly recognizes that that *is* a rather likely outcome. There's plenty of places out there where productions of that sort would be deemed a provoaction/incitement to riot.
Actually, in most countries, the law clearly recognizes that that *is* a rather likely outcome. There's plenty of places out there where productions of that sort would be deemed a provoaction/incitement to riot.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 14, 2010 08:27 PM (kmEfr)
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Muslims and HH are.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:27 PM (aE/nJ)
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Go ahead dude...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:22 PM (6oDXl)
Go ahead with WHAT? You don't have a valid point.
No one cares how the Muslims in the audience feel, or why they came. If you're saying they were brought in by Lars, where is the proof of that?You keep ignoring what makes this an issue: Backing down in the face of punks
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:22 PM (6oDXl)
Go ahead with WHAT? You don't have a valid point.
No one cares how the Muslims in the audience feel, or why they came. If you're saying they were brought in by Lars, where is the proof of that?You keep ignoring what makes this an issue: Backing down in the face of punks
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 08:28 PM (JrRME)
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It's high time we played Cowboys and muslims, I'm sick of their shit and think they should be exterminated.
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at May 14, 2010 07:05 PM (XVZOO)
Sign me up for your newletter.
The constitution should be amended to strip the muslims of all rights, criminalize their vile death cult, and place a bounty on each of their heads. They should begiven a short warning to allow self-deportation, and after that it's open season. No effort should be spared to removeIslam from the United States both as a religion and as a collection of individuals. No one who was left would really miss them,because they bring nothing but rot. Every time you allow them to hit a certain critical mass within a city they start to cause trouble, and that trouble gets worse the more of them you have. The only thing preventing the US from having as bad a problem as Europe is the fact that we have an armed citizenry who don't go for their bullshit. Little no-go zones are already forming in places like Detroit and Dearborn in Michigan.
If anybody is serious about defending the future of this country, they need to get with the program. The US needs to become a muslim free zone.
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at May 14, 2010 07:05 PM (XVZOO)
Sign me up for your newletter.
The constitution should be amended to strip the muslims of all rights, criminalize their vile death cult, and place a bounty on each of their heads. They should begiven a short warning to allow self-deportation, and after that it's open season. No effort should be spared to removeIslam from the United States both as a religion and as a collection of individuals. No one who was left would really miss them,because they bring nothing but rot. Every time you allow them to hit a certain critical mass within a city they start to cause trouble, and that trouble gets worse the more of them you have. The only thing preventing the US from having as bad a problem as Europe is the fact that we have an armed citizenry who don't go for their bullshit. Little no-go zones are already forming in places like Detroit and Dearborn in Michigan.
If anybody is serious about defending the future of this country, they need to get with the program. The US needs to become a muslim free zone.
Posted by: Reactionary at May 14, 2010 08:28 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: real joe at May 14, 2010 08:29 PM (WjerO)
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this was not a normal reaction. please.
If i recall, there were no violent protests, or riots when the movie "The Last Temptation of Christ" came out, nor were there any bombings or deaths when "The Da Vinci" code was playing in theaters. Christians were openly critical of these films, and voiced their opinions and outrage, but they did so peacefully and without causing mayhem or flailing their arms about like psychos. Contrary to what Charles The Moron over at LGF would say, Christians are pretty civilized, and have been so for several centuries.
But look at these people. They have immigrated to a very left-leaning, liberal country, and have no respect for the laws or beliefs that annimate the Swedish culture. They claim it is "our country too!," yet have made no effort to accept the beliefs and laws of the land they are claiming as their own. You have to wonder why they chose to immigrate to Sweden in the first place, and you also have to wonder at the stupidity of the Swedish people to allow these nut cases into the fold. They aren't Swedish, and they have intention of adopting the culture of the Swedes. I say send 'em home, and shut the door to any further immigration from these backward nations. Let them flail about like banshees somewhere else. dix.
If i recall, there were no violent protests, or riots when the movie "The Last Temptation of Christ" came out, nor were there any bombings or deaths when "The Da Vinci" code was playing in theaters. Christians were openly critical of these films, and voiced their opinions and outrage, but they did so peacefully and without causing mayhem or flailing their arms about like psychos. Contrary to what Charles The Moron over at LGF would say, Christians are pretty civilized, and have been so for several centuries.
But look at these people. They have immigrated to a very left-leaning, liberal country, and have no respect for the laws or beliefs that annimate the Swedish culture. They claim it is "our country too!," yet have made no effort to accept the beliefs and laws of the land they are claiming as their own. You have to wonder why they chose to immigrate to Sweden in the first place, and you also have to wonder at the stupidity of the Swedish people to allow these nut cases into the fold. They aren't Swedish, and they have intention of adopting the culture of the Swedes. I say send 'em home, and shut the door to any further immigration from these backward nations. Let them flail about like banshees somewhere else. dix.
Posted by: mistress overdone at May 14, 2010 08:29 PM (2/oBD)
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@187: "Wouldn't be normal for Christians or Hindus or Buddhists"
Christians and Buddhists, maybe. Some Hindus can get pretty nasty if their religion gets insulted. They've butchered many, many people - within recent memory - for insults to their faith. Put the chop on quite a lot of Muslims, in fact.
Christians and Buddhists, maybe. Some Hindus can get pretty nasty if their religion gets insulted. They've butchered many, many people - within recent memory - for insults to their faith. Put the chop on quite a lot of Muslims, in fact.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 14, 2010 08:29 PM (kmEfr)
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There's plenty of places out there where
productions of that sort would be deemed a provoaction/incitement to
riot.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches
Sorry, that's invidious comparison. Just because 'most places' hold speakers responsible for all outcomes don't mean that's a worthy standard.
The Western standard says otherwise. You are responsible for your reaction to speech in 99% of all cases, barring the usual exemptions that we are all familiar with.
productions of that sort would be deemed a provoaction/incitement to
riot.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches
Sorry, that's invidious comparison. Just because 'most places' hold speakers responsible for all outcomes don't mean that's a worthy standard.
The Western standard says otherwise. You are responsible for your reaction to speech in 99% of all cases, barring the usual exemptions that we are all familiar with.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 14, 2010 08:31 PM (zgd5N)
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They went to Sweden and Denmark, as different as they can be to their home countries, because of the freedom they could have that they could never, NEVER have in their home countries, plus lots of benefits, and to spread the caliphate zone.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:32 PM (aE/nJ)
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What?
Posted by: Piss Christ at May 14, 2010 08:33 PM (ZESU0)
202
HH is deliberately obtuse.There, I said it. And I meant it to sting
About what?
About what?
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:34 PM (6oDXl)
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#198, go read Caliphate by Tom Kratman. Specifically the "Redefinition of Religion Act". In the back story of that novel, Islam was legally redesignated a hostile foreign political movement and stripped of First Amendment protections.
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 14, 2010 08:36 PM (XE8yI)
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because of the freedom they could have that they
could never, NEVER have in their home countries, plus lots of benefits,
and to spread the caliphate zone.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:32 PM (aE/nJ)
Probably they went to Scandi-lands for the welfare bennies and maybe a chance at a job--although the employment rate for Somali 'refugees', for example is only about 20 %yes, four out of five Somalis living in Europe are not employed, but are sucking on the welfare tit. Surprised?
could never, NEVER have in their home countries, plus lots of benefits,
and to spread the caliphate zone.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:32 PM (aE/nJ)
Probably they went to Scandi-lands for the welfare bennies and maybe a chance at a job--although the employment rate for Somali 'refugees', for example is only about 20 %yes, four out of five Somalis living in Europe are not employed, but are sucking on the welfare tit. Surprised?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 08:36 PM (JrRME)
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Fuck Islam
Fuck it in the ass with a big rubber dick.
Then break it off and beat it to death with the rest of it.
Fuck it in the ass with a big rubber dick.
Then break it off and beat it to death with the rest of it.
Posted by: Melodicmetal at May 14, 2010 08:38 PM (9eTd5)
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Sounds like HH believes in free speech for all people.
Posted by: td at May 14, 2010 08:39 PM (w7TI0)
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About what?
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:34 PM (6oDXl)you are taking on a Monty Python-esque quality.........
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:34 PM (6oDXl)you are taking on a Monty Python-esque quality.........
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 08:39 PM (JrRME)
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150 Well exactly, and if thousands of people did it -- well, it would be hard to round us all up, no? Besides, if it's dried, blood isn't much of a biohazard.
But I suppose there could be an option to use fake blood, since we shouldn't offend.
But I suppose there could be an option to use fake blood, since we shouldn't offend.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 14, 2010 08:40 PM (5/yRG)
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Well,Mr.Martin Luther wasn't exactly the prince of peace, was he? Well, if you know history.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:41 PM (6oDXl)
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No, SantaRosaStan, I am not.
Most Somalis in Americawork in airports or catholic sponsored charity outreaches in the mid-west.
Most Somalis in Americawork in airports or catholic sponsored charity outreaches in the mid-west.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:41 PM (aE/nJ)
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@202: "Sorry, that's invidious comparison. Just because 'most places' hold speakers responsible for all outcomes don't mean that's a worthy standard."
Worthy or not, it's the standard and we're the exception, and I wouldn't even count on it holding here.
Tell you what - this coming Memorial Day, go to the Vietnam Memorial when the Rolling Thunder bikers are there. Piss on the wall, drop a deuce on the walkway, wipe your ass with the flag, and then burn it. (Feel free to substitute the AIDS Quilt and San Francisco, if you prefer.)
If you're very, very lucky, you'll be able to explain to the bikers that you're just engaging in a piece of performance art protesting LBJ's shitty strategy before they tear you limb from limb. More likely, you'll be dead before you even finish the pissing part, though. There will probably be enough of you left for the crime scene guys to figure out how many people got stomped to cytoplasm, though.
Worthy or not, it's the standard and we're the exception, and I wouldn't even count on it holding here.
Tell you what - this coming Memorial Day, go to the Vietnam Memorial when the Rolling Thunder bikers are there. Piss on the wall, drop a deuce on the walkway, wipe your ass with the flag, and then burn it. (Feel free to substitute the AIDS Quilt and San Francisco, if you prefer.)
If you're very, very lucky, you'll be able to explain to the bikers that you're just engaging in a piece of performance art protesting LBJ's shitty strategy before they tear you limb from limb. More likely, you'll be dead before you even finish the pissing part, though. There will probably be enough of you left for the crime scene guys to figure out how many people got stomped to cytoplasm, though.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 14, 2010 08:42 PM (kmEfr)
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Who's on first?
Posted by: Lou Costello at May 14, 2010 08:43 PM (I+U8m)
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Sorry, folks, there isn't a backlash coming in Europe. Europe is over. Sometime after the 7/7 bombings of London, about 1,000 muslims marched thru London screaming "Allah Akbar!" and carrying signs that called for another Holocaust and Death to Infidels. The police made no attempt to stop the march and the only arrest was of a white Englishman who dared to shout back at the marchers. It's game over in Europe...their kids outnumber non-muslim kids in the schools of Holland, Belgium, France, Norway and are majorities in major cities in Britain, Sweden and Germany. If a backlash kicked off now the police would side with the muslims and the Left and non-muslims would be filling the jails. Sorry, but that's the sad truth.
Posted by: London Boy at May 14, 2010 08:51 PM (sOviJ)
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Arab Muslims in Sweden declaring: "This is our country too!"
Just let that sink in.
Just let that sink in.
Posted by: Snorty McBrearty at May 14, 2010 08:51 PM (Wjv9m)
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I'm glad I saw the whole thing. That Lars guy seems to be a prick, and may have just gotten some old school justice. Maybe that's just the south side Chicago that still lingers in me though.
Posted by: MostlyRight at May 14, 2010 08:52 PM (0aCXd)
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Not in America. Not in my lifetime.
We won't be Britain and we won't be the Netherlands.
I pledge to not let it be.
We won't be Britain and we won't be the Netherlands.
I pledge to not let it be.
Posted by: Who knows at May 14, 2010 08:54 PM (aE/nJ)
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you are taking on a Monty Python-esque quality.........
Want to start from the beginning?
1. Audience packed with Muslims..
2. Gay film about Mohammed starts.
3. Crowd goes nuts.
4. Police obvously close.
5. Someone filming all of this.
I'm just saying it was a damn set-up. Got the crowd reaction they wanted, and knew whatwas going to go down next.
Which happened.
That's pretty much it.
Want to start from the beginning?
1. Audience packed with Muslims..
2. Gay film about Mohammed starts.
3. Crowd goes nuts.
4. Police obvously close.
5. Someone filming all of this.
I'm just saying it was a damn set-up. Got the crowd reaction they wanted, and knew whatwas going to go down next.
Which happened.
That's pretty much it.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:57 PM (6oDXl)
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That's pretty much it.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:57 PM (6oDXl)
( sigh ) Again, for the ninth time, this is not about what the crowd did.What makes this an issue is how the police and then the university ( a government institution in Sweden ) reacted.All your information about what happened in the video is not relevant--unless you think that Lars and all the Muzzies and the police and the Whole World set up the entire production..........Calling Martin Luther 'Mr.' is childish
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:57 PM (6oDXl)
( sigh ) Again, for the ninth time, this is not about what the crowd did.What makes this an issue is how the police and then the university ( a government institution in Sweden ) reacted.All your information about what happened in the video is not relevant--unless you think that Lars and all the Muzzies and the police and the Whole World set up the entire production..........Calling Martin Luther 'Mr.' is childish
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 09:01 PM (JrRME)
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"We won't be Britain and we won't be the Netherlands."
Hate to tell you this but if the State Department keep giving out hundreds of thousands of visas to muslims from Pakistan, Somalia, the Gaza Strip West Bank etc.,etc., you might not have a choice. Twenty years ago, did any of you imagine that muslim students would be able to intimidate Jewish students on almost every single campus in America ? Did you think that the Attorney General of the USA would refuse to name "radical Islam" as being behind terrorist attacks ? Did you imagine that thousands of American kids would be converting to Islam ? England switched from non-dhimmi to dhimmi in less than twenty years and the muslims are only 10% of the population. You'd be surprised how ready academia, the media and the political elites are to bow before angry muslims and the oil weapon.
Hate to tell you this but if the State Department keep giving out hundreds of thousands of visas to muslims from Pakistan, Somalia, the Gaza Strip West Bank etc.,etc., you might not have a choice. Twenty years ago, did any of you imagine that muslim students would be able to intimidate Jewish students on almost every single campus in America ? Did you think that the Attorney General of the USA would refuse to name "radical Islam" as being behind terrorist attacks ? Did you imagine that thousands of American kids would be converting to Islam ? England switched from non-dhimmi to dhimmi in less than twenty years and the muslims are only 10% of the population. You'd be surprised how ready academia, the media and the political elites are to bow before angry muslims and the oil weapon.
Posted by: London Boy at May 14, 2010 09:02 PM (sOviJ)
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" So hard to clearly define."
I don't know about that.
Vilks reminds me of Fred Phelps.
Hard to say what people like that are after.
I don't know about that.
Vilks reminds me of Fred Phelps.
Hard to say what people like that are after.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 14, 2010 09:03 PM (5Etcj)
Posted by: newrouter at May 14, 2010 09:05 PM (bEZJ+)
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Calling Martin Luther 'Mr.' is childish
As opposed to 'Marty'?
Geez, I hate to be childiish...
Well burn me at the stake!
As opposed to 'Marty'?
Geez, I hate to be childiish...
Well burn me at the stake!
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:07 PM (6oDXl)
Posted by: newrouter at May 14, 2010 09:07 PM (bEZJ+)
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Well burn me at the stake!
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:07 PM (6oDXl)The internetz are like a foreign countryThey do things differently there.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:07 PM (6oDXl)The internetz are like a foreign countryThey do things differently there.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at May 14, 2010 09:11 PM (JrRME)
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snapdragon reminds me of something I stepped in while in the barn.
Posted by: Fibber McGee at May 14, 2010 09:11 PM (I+U8m)
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Deliberately obtuse about the fact that you have no right to resort to violence because you don't like someone's movie.
See? You're still doing it.
See? You're still doing it.
Posted by: real joe at May 14, 2010 09:12 PM (WjerO)
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I know that it would be illegal, like hunting on a baited field, but we should play that and those that jump up and protest should be shot for having terrorist tendencies. Just joking of course, don't really need to play a movie first.
Yeah, I am a hater, it has taken me 52 years to become one, but muzzies and entitlements have pretty much done it.
Yeah, I am a hater, it has taken me 52 years to become one, but muzzies and entitlements have pretty much done it.
Posted by: Rob in Katy at May 14, 2010 09:13 PM (PiTBB)
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None of those animals deserve to live.
Would that I can live to see that day.
Would that I can live to see that day.
Posted by: Trump at May 14, 2010 09:15 PM (hK2Ya)
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220
you are taking on a Monty Python-esque quality.........
Want to start from the beginning?
1. Audience packed with Muslims..
So, HH objects to the fact that Muslims were exposed for what they are by a film they did not like. Violent, intolerant and disrespectful of our tradition of free and unfettered speech. I have a clue for you buddy, we already knew that about Muzzies, it was not a surprise.
you are taking on a Monty Python-esque quality.........
Want to start from the beginning?
1. Audience packed with Muslims..
So, HH objects to the fact that Muslims were exposed for what they are by a film they did not like. Violent, intolerant and disrespectful of our tradition of free and unfettered speech. I have a clue for you buddy, we already knew that about Muzzies, it was not a surprise.
Posted by: real joe at May 14, 2010 09:16 PM (WjerO)
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you have no right to resort to violence because you don't like someone's movie.
So about the movie "Jaws"...
So about the movie "Jaws"...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:16 PM (6oDXl)
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Am I the only one that found that potty-mouth muslim chickkinda hot*
*You know, In a skanky Mackenzie Phillips, Mork and Mindyrainbow sweater wearing dirty hair kinda way.
*You know, In a skanky Mackenzie Phillips, Mork and Mindyrainbow sweater wearing dirty hair kinda way.
Posted by: The Mystery of Christina Hendricks at May 14, 2010 09:20 PM (mxxmL)
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I get so weary of these trollish assholes sometimes.
It's like going to see relatives I wouldn't spend a minute with if I didn't have to.
It's like going to see relatives I wouldn't spend a minute with if I didn't have to.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 14, 2010 09:22 PM (Wh0W+)
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HH objects to the fact that Muslims were exposed for what they are by a film they did not like.
Nope. You mis-read me. I'm thinking they were set up. Something entirely different. And that in doing so, the outcome was going to be predicted, and filmed.
That is the only thing I want to get across here. After that, pissing off peoples of faith is something else.
Nope. You mis-read me. I'm thinking they were set up. Something entirely different. And that in doing so, the outcome was going to be predicted, and filmed.
That is the only thing I want to get across here. After that, pissing off peoples of faith is something else.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:23 PM (6oDXl)
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"I'm thinking they were set up."
Yeah,sure - they were forced to attend the film, forced to react the way they did and the hapless cops were forced to act like liberals. No, this wasn't a set-up - this is life in islam-occupied Europe.
Yeah,sure - they were forced to attend the film, forced to react the way they did and the hapless cops were forced to act like liberals. No, this wasn't a set-up - this is life in islam-occupied Europe.
Posted by: London Boy at May 14, 2010 09:28 PM (sOviJ)
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fuck islam and fuck the inbred goatfuckers that worship allah-
may the hairs on their asses turn to hammers and beat the shit out of them.
may the hairs on their asses turn to hammers and beat the shit out of them.
Posted by: a lawyer at May 14, 2010 09:29 PM (gjAcY)
Posted by: bud abbott at May 14, 2010 09:29 PM (xs+52)
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Now while they might understandably be upset over comparisons of their 1400 year dead shaman mystic boogeyman with queers, what if Vilks instead simply went on about said boogeyman's pedophillic tendencies?
Cause, hey, raping nine year olds is way better, no?
Cause, hey, raping nine year olds is way better, no?
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 09:33 PM (jYQ2v)
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You know people have done all kinds of horrible "artsy" things about Jesus (including putting a Crucifix in urine) and all the Christians did was ask that it not be taxpayer-funded.
Posted by: potty mouth at May 14, 2010 09:35 PM (Glxw+)
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How can a person be set up if they voluntarily go to something that they are fairly sure will offend them in the first place?
And if they knew prior that it would likely offend them, don't they have to option of leaving or even booing (should they desire to stay and protest)? There was a lot of shouting, but the thing that kicked it off was a physical attack and at the end a threat against the community (one of the guys says "if you don't want anything to happen in Uppsala..." how is that supposed to be interpreted?).
I'm not horribly religious, but I did have a religious upbringing -- a lot of anti-Catholic stuff offends me. I stand up for my old religion; I argue; I decide not to support certain things...but I don't threaten/perpetrate the people offending me with violence and I don't threaten other people with violence for allowing the offender to share the same space with me.
Likely if I did, I would be arrested -- and there, imho, is the rub.
And if they knew prior that it would likely offend them, don't they have to option of leaving or even booing (should they desire to stay and protest)? There was a lot of shouting, but the thing that kicked it off was a physical attack and at the end a threat against the community (one of the guys says "if you don't want anything to happen in Uppsala..." how is that supposed to be interpreted?).
I'm not horribly religious, but I did have a religious upbringing -- a lot of anti-Catholic stuff offends me. I stand up for my old religion; I argue; I decide not to support certain things...but I don't threaten/perpetrate the people offending me with violence and I don't threaten other people with violence for allowing the offender to share the same space with me.
Likely if I did, I would be arrested -- and there, imho, is the rub.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 14, 2010 09:36 PM (5/yRG)
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Jesus, that one little musselman (musselwoman? musselperson?) girl in the striped sweater is wearing a seriously short skirt. And her hair and face are uncovered! Shouldn't they be beating her instead of Vilks? Come on, guys, priorities!
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 09:37 PM (jYQ2v)
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239 Who's on first?
Well, I could say bud's butt, that would be rude...
Well, I could say bud's butt, that would be rude...
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 09:38 PM (6oDXl)
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Porn, no, tasteless, yes. I don't condone the response, but this is equivalent to "Christ in Piss" which disgusted so many Christians.
Posted by: Dantes at May 14, 2010 09:40 PM (zka+X)
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Scandi's are real brave...
When it comes to beating up Jews.
The Danish people circa 1940-1945 notwithstanding.
When it comes to beating up Jews.
The Danish people circa 1940-1945 notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2010 09:41 PM (9Cooa)
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Now that I think of it, Mohammed liked raping little girls.
So does Roman Polanski.
Holy shit, I think Roman Polanski just might be the 12th imam!
That's it, we're screwed.
So does Roman Polanski.
Holy shit, I think Roman Polanski just might be the 12th imam!
That's it, we're screwed.
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 09:42 PM (jYQ2v)
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Robert, lets throw him down a well and find out.
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2010 09:43 PM (CPefM)
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The groovy new mosque in NY will be dedicated on 9-11-11.
i hope they have a nice insurance policy on that thing.
i hope they have a nice insurance policy on that thing.
Posted by: evil libertarian at May 14, 2010 09:46 PM (gjT4m)
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Jean, it would be interesting to see if we could stuff Polanski's big fat head into that leaking BP pipe in the gulf. That'd be like three problems solved all at once!
I think I should write my congresscritter.
I think I should write my congresscritter.
Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 09:50 PM (jYQ2v)
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Where are all the hot, blonde, Swedish chicks. Been bred out already?
Posted by: PC14 at May 14, 2010 09:53 PM (XB+w8)
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Well,Mr.Martin Luther wasn't exactly the prince of peace, was he? Well, if you know history.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:41 PM (6oDXl)
Luther condemned violence for his entire life. What are you talking about?
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 08:41 PM (6oDXl)
Luther condemned violence for his entire life. What are you talking about?
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 09:54 PM (QoR4a)
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Well, I could say bud's butt, that would be rude...
Oooh, Oooh. Clever.
Oooh, Oooh. Clever.
Posted by: Lou Costello at May 14, 2010 09:55 PM (I+U8m)
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Do you know what the Devil thinks when he sees men use violence to propagate the gospel? He sits with folded arms behind the fire of hell, and says with malignant looks and frightful grin: "Ah, how wise these madmen are to play my game! Let them go on; I shall reap the benefit. I delight in it." But when he sees the Word running and contending alone on the battle-field, then he shudders and shakes for fear.
-Martin Luther
-Martin Luther
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 09:56 PM (QoR4a)
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And speaking of faith ...
Faith is a living, bold trust in God's grace, so certain of God's favor that it would risk death a thousand times trusting in it. Such confidence and knowledge of God's grace makes you happy, joyful and bold in your relationship to God and all creatures. The Holy Spirit makes this happen through faith. Because of it, you freely, willingly and joyfully do good to everyone, serve everyone, suffer all kinds of things, love and praise the God who has shown you such grace.
-Martin Luther
Nothing about storming a stage and punching someone who insults your faith...
Faith is a living, bold trust in God's grace, so certain of God's favor that it would risk death a thousand times trusting in it. Such confidence and knowledge of God's grace makes you happy, joyful and bold in your relationship to God and all creatures. The Holy Spirit makes this happen through faith. Because of it, you freely, willingly and joyfully do good to everyone, serve everyone, suffer all kinds of things, love and praise the God who has shown you such grace.
-Martin Luther
Nothing about storming a stage and punching someone who insults your faith...
Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 10:00 PM (QoR4a)
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Posted by: Warden at May 14, 2010 09:56 PM (QoR4a)
I deem that to be false? So I say, so it must be.
I deem that to be false? So I say, so it must be.
Posted by: HH Theologian at May 14, 2010 10:04 PM (I+U8m)
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Allah SHIT BAR.
Posted by: bob at May 14, 2010 10:18 PM (OOBIR)
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Where's your brilliant response to the Martin Luther quote, HH, you f**king brainless imbecile?
I just read through the comments, and you sir, are the dumbest sack of sh*t to grace thissite since honest cloud.
Well done, crotch stain.
I just read through the comments, and you sir, are the dumbest sack of sh*t to grace thissite since honest cloud.
Well done, crotch stain.
Posted by: stickety at May 14, 2010 10:22 PM (EsWC3)
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The lesson taught here is, once again,
that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what
they want.
That's pretty much been their M.O. since about the 7th century.
that if Muslims just get violent and criminal, they get exactly what
they want.
That's pretty much been their M.O. since about the 7th century.
Posted by: brak at May 14, 2010 10:24 PM (W5NBA)
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241 is correct. Now we get to live with the consequences.
Posted by: td at May 14, 2010 10:25 PM (w7TI0)
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Target. Rich. Environment.
Posted by: Modgi at May 14, 2010 10:35 PM (Vrb/j)
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I hope Israel has stocked up a few hundred thousand fragmentation bombs for the next time that Hezbullah squeaks. those motherless fucks..
Posted by: TexasJew at May 14, 2010 10:38 PM (/ouG2)
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I enjoyed the way that the Muzzies started attacking the Swedish girl who sensibly criticized them for their assault on free speech.
They should have gotten beaten into a pulp for that alone.
They should have gotten beaten into a pulp for that alone.
Posted by: TexasJew at May 14, 2010 10:42 PM (/ouG2)
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The only way the hezbo Israel conflict will end is when Israel kicks the shit out of them. I'm hoping sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Ronster at May 14, 2010 10:44 PM (I+U8m)
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Churchill explained the situation best over a hundred years ago, The River War (1899):
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 14, 2010 10:49 PM (Qp4DT)
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It has to be asked: why is it that a large number of Muslims all over the world just can't seem to control themselves? When it's something they deem "offensive," they MUST do violence. When it comes to sex, they make their women cover themselves like a desert tent, all because they can't control themselves. They let their violent passions wash over them and control them without any semblance of conscience, remorse or regret.
But from my perspective, there is a reason for this. The answer is that they do not have the Holy Spirit of Christ to bring order and control to their lives. Though I know many here won't agree with that, it's not my intention to get into a religious argument. I am merely making an observation from a Christian perspective.
At the very least, here's a thought: walk out of the movie if you don't like it. From what I saw of it, I would have been offended by it too. Going on a rampage is not the solution, but I am under no illusion that Muslims have any interest in discussing these matters. Until they experience the transformation that only the gospel of Christ can bring, the violence will continue.
But from my perspective, there is a reason for this. The answer is that they do not have the Holy Spirit of Christ to bring order and control to their lives. Though I know many here won't agree with that, it's not my intention to get into a religious argument. I am merely making an observation from a Christian perspective.
At the very least, here's a thought: walk out of the movie if you don't like it. From what I saw of it, I would have been offended by it too. Going on a rampage is not the solution, but I am under no illusion that Muslims have any interest in discussing these matters. Until they experience the transformation that only the gospel of Christ can bring, the violence will continue.
Posted by: Pilgrimsarbour at May 14, 2010 11:04 PM (D/E1Y)
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Nothing about storming a stage and punching someone who insults your faith...
You seriously need to brush up on your history...
If you think Martin Luther was a compassionate man, or even a person who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the religious wars in Europe. Go ahead. And good luck.
You seriously need to brush up on your history...
If you think Martin Luther was a compassionate man, or even a person who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the religious wars in Europe. Go ahead. And good luck.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM (6oDXl)
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#222, London Boy, the difference between us and you is a bunch of us are heavily armed, highly trained, exceptionally motivated, and will not put up with Islamic uprisings on our soil. When you Britons gave up your weapons, you gave up the teeth that would have kept that shit from getting shoved down your throat.
While it might be a bit more sporting killing the dirty fuckers without recourse to helicopter gunships, JDAMs, or on-call field artillery, I'll bet money that the ones that act up here will be no more bulletproof than the Iraqi, Saudi, or Syrian variety were.
While it might be a bit more sporting killing the dirty fuckers without recourse to helicopter gunships, JDAMs, or on-call field artillery, I'll bet money that the ones that act up here will be no more bulletproof than the Iraqi, Saudi, or Syrian variety were.
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 14, 2010 11:11 PM (XE8yI)
Posted by: Ronster at May 14, 2010 11:18 PM (I+U8m)
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"heavily armed, highly trained, exceptionally motivated, and will not put
up with Islamic uprisings on our soil."
cut. jib. newsletter. etc.
up with Islamic uprisings on our soil."
cut. jib. newsletter. etc.
Posted by: Modgi at May 14, 2010 11:20 PM (Vrb/j)
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"London Boy, the difference between us and you is a bunch of us are
heavily armed, highly trained, exceptionally motivated, and will not put
up with Islamic uprisings on our soil."
I hope you're right, SGT Dan, but it's surprising how quickly a majority of the population become indoctrinated by political correctness (especially when teachers, the MSM and the political elite are pushing the "islam is peace" bullshit 24/7).
And guns won't help when the majority of young people are muslim...they get to win by sheer numbers. The thing to be aware of is how the muslims keep gently pushing the boundaries, keep increasing their demands, keep increasing their numbers, keep winning over liberals and the media. I know a lot of Americans sneer at Europe and the muslims but what have Americans done to stop the invasion of the USA by illegal immigrants ? 20 million have sneaked across the border, they have become such a political force that the most powerful nation in the world is afraid to secure it's own borders. Hundreds of thousands of illegals march in the streets of the USA demanding rights they shouldn't have but where are the marches of US citizens against illegal immigration ? The USA soccer team is booed by tens of thousands of Mexican-Americans at a match played in Los Angeles - sorry but no English team of any sport is booed at any match held in England. I agree Europe is lost and America is our last best hope but don't think you're immune to the effects of uncontrolled mass immigration. When I see you guys secure your border and when I don't hear "Press One for English" when in the States then I'll know you guys aren't slipping down the same slope Europe did.
heavily armed, highly trained, exceptionally motivated, and will not put
up with Islamic uprisings on our soil."
I hope you're right, SGT Dan, but it's surprising how quickly a majority of the population become indoctrinated by political correctness (especially when teachers, the MSM and the political elite are pushing the "islam is peace" bullshit 24/7).
And guns won't help when the majority of young people are muslim...they get to win by sheer numbers. The thing to be aware of is how the muslims keep gently pushing the boundaries, keep increasing their demands, keep increasing their numbers, keep winning over liberals and the media. I know a lot of Americans sneer at Europe and the muslims but what have Americans done to stop the invasion of the USA by illegal immigrants ? 20 million have sneaked across the border, they have become such a political force that the most powerful nation in the world is afraid to secure it's own borders. Hundreds of thousands of illegals march in the streets of the USA demanding rights they shouldn't have but where are the marches of US citizens against illegal immigration ? The USA soccer team is booed by tens of thousands of Mexican-Americans at a match played in Los Angeles - sorry but no English team of any sport is booed at any match held in England. I agree Europe is lost and America is our last best hope but don't think you're immune to the effects of uncontrolled mass immigration. When I see you guys secure your border and when I don't hear "Press One for English" when in the States then I'll know you guys aren't slipping down the same slope Europe did.
Posted by: London Boy at May 14, 2010 11:37 PM (sOviJ)
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You seriously need to brush up on your history...
If you think Martin Luther was a compassionate man, or even a person
who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the religious wars in Europe. Go
ahead. And good luck.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM (6oDXl)
So you are saying that Muslims in present-day Europe are fully justified in murdering anyone who expresses disagreement with the Islamic faith? Because that fits the precedent of past religious strife in Europe, and because the present-day Muslims are really, really religious?
If you think Martin Luther was a compassionate man, or even a person
who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the religious wars in Europe. Go
ahead. And good luck.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM (6oDXl)
So you are saying that Muslims in present-day Europe are fully justified in murdering anyone who expresses disagreement with the Islamic faith? Because that fits the precedent of past religious strife in Europe, and because the present-day Muslims are really, really religious?
Posted by: stuiec at May 14, 2010 11:38 PM (W+GYq)
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Did one of the muzzies tell the cop it's illegal for him to draw his gun? Seriously? Damn, those Swede cops are total pussies. They need to study film of the 1968 Chicago PD. Or open up a can of Charles Martel on them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 14, 2010 11:43 PM (eGyFn)
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So you are saying that Muslims in present-day Europe are fully justified in murdering anyone who expresses disagreement with the Islamic faith?
Back off dude. I never, ever said anything like that!
I have never, ever even considered that.
To even think that I think that is not only mis-reading me, but I think you are an absolute asshole to even consider that.
Get me?
I can make it even more clear if you want.
Back off dude. I never, ever said anything like that!
I have never, ever even considered that.
To even think that I think that is not only mis-reading me, but I think you are an absolute asshole to even consider that.
Get me?
I can make it even more clear if you want.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:52 PM (6oDXl)
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I'm not as wise as many of you. I don't have the gift of speak, but this I know: The law in Arizona, that is causing such a stir, is one of the most important pieces of legislation to happen in over a hundred years.
Do any of us think that the problem is really illegal Mexican immigrants. Yes, they are a big problem that must be stopped. Hell, they even have a La Raza idiot movie coming out in Sept 2010 that's likely to cause lot's of bloodshed. It's named 'Machete.' Just google it. Man that scares the shit out of me. You know, a bunch of Mexicans coming after me with machetes, and hoes, and other farm implements. That horrifies me and my Mac-10 and my M4SOPMOD, and my raging judge. (You Know, bringing a knife to a gunfight.)
Here's the real problem. It ain't the Mexican illegals that are our southern border problem. It's the hundreds of Muslim illegals that are coming over our southern border in concert with the drug lords.
Think on that for a while.
Do any of us think that the problem is really illegal Mexican immigrants. Yes, they are a big problem that must be stopped. Hell, they even have a La Raza idiot movie coming out in Sept 2010 that's likely to cause lot's of bloodshed. It's named 'Machete.' Just google it. Man that scares the shit out of me. You know, a bunch of Mexicans coming after me with machetes, and hoes, and other farm implements. That horrifies me and my Mac-10 and my M4SOPMOD, and my raging judge. (You Know, bringing a knife to a gunfight.)
Here's the real problem. It ain't the Mexican illegals that are our southern border problem. It's the hundreds of Muslim illegals that are coming over our southern border in concert with the drug lords.
Think on that for a while.
Posted by: Ron G at May 15, 2010 12:18 AM (GDC0M)
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"Sorry? No, that audience was packed. Whoever did that wanted a reaction,
and he got it."
So what are you saying ? That the artist paid muslims to attend his show and encouraged them to attack him ? Any evidence for this statement or just a feeble attempt to distract from the real story here - that muslims are shutting down free expression in Europe ? Ever been to Europe and attended an event that muslims have shut down ? If not maybe you should and then come back and try peddling your b.s.
and he got it."
So what are you saying ? That the artist paid muslims to attend his show and encouraged them to attack him ? Any evidence for this statement or just a feeble attempt to distract from the real story here - that muslims are shutting down free expression in Europe ? Ever been to Europe and attended an event that muslims have shut down ? If not maybe you should and then come back and try peddling your b.s.
Posted by: London Boy at May 15, 2010 12:22 AM (sOviJ)
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So what are you saying ?
Said it enough.
That the artist paid muslims to attend his show and encouraged them to attack him ?
Question. Where did that audience come from? It was all Muslim, from what I can see. And someone wanted to get on their bad side...
Any evidence for this statement or just a feeble attempt to distract from the real story here -
Totally different story.
Said it enough.
That the artist paid muslims to attend his show and encouraged them to attack him ?
Question. Where did that audience come from? It was all Muslim, from what I can see. And someone wanted to get on their bad side...
Any evidence for this statement or just a feeble attempt to distract from the real story here -
Totally different story.
Posted by: HH at May 15, 2010 12:39 AM (6oDXl)
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HH: Question. Where did that audience come from? It was all Muslim, from what I can see. And someone wanted to get on their bad side...
HH, you *really* need to watch the film again, or get new glasses. Look at the film again, and notice all the people SITTING DOWN and not yelling. They outnumber the 10-15 or so outspoken Muslim audience members. And they just sit there frowning...and sit there...they don't challenge the chanters (because that would be rude). If you stop looking at the attention-whore chanters, you can see people in the background getting up and leaving. There are even children in the audience! Some people stand up with their children and take them out of the room. Many, if not most, of the non-shoutersappear to be ethnic Swedes, and someeven appear to be recent immigrants, who certainly match the radical protestors in hair color and facial hair. They ALL paid taxes to view this provocative film--not just the Muslim immigrants.
Yes, the artist wanted to provoke a reaction--he's a modern artist. That's what they do. But your suggestion that the whole film is a perfomance pieceorchestrated by the artistis rather ludicrous. Yeah, I'm sure he wanted to be headbutted so hard that his glasses broke--good planning, that. I guess he really took one in the noggin for his art!
Occam's Razor applies, HH.
HH, you *really* need to watch the film again, or get new glasses. Look at the film again, and notice all the people SITTING DOWN and not yelling. They outnumber the 10-15 or so outspoken Muslim audience members. And they just sit there frowning...and sit there...they don't challenge the chanters (because that would be rude). If you stop looking at the attention-whore chanters, you can see people in the background getting up and leaving. There are even children in the audience! Some people stand up with their children and take them out of the room. Many, if not most, of the non-shoutersappear to be ethnic Swedes, and someeven appear to be recent immigrants, who certainly match the radical protestors in hair color and facial hair. They ALL paid taxes to view this provocative film--not just the Muslim immigrants.
Yes, the artist wanted to provoke a reaction--he's a modern artist. That's what they do. But your suggestion that the whole film is a perfomance pieceorchestrated by the artistis rather ludicrous. Yeah, I'm sure he wanted to be headbutted so hard that his glasses broke--good planning, that. I guess he really took one in the noggin for his art!
Occam's Razor applies, HH.
Posted by: pseudotsuga at May 15, 2010 01:37 AM (ndc9N)
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The only way this isn't happening in America is if we get conservatives back into goverment and do our own long march through the institutions. Otherwise, the Leftists will make that decision for us.
Posted by: KG at May 15, 2010 01:38 AM (S8TF5)
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Hey, man, where are the Queers for Palestine on this? They should be marching in solidarity with their Mo-ham-head brethren.
Posted by: Beverly at May 15, 2010 02:04 AM (tZvAN)
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I'm sure there would have been more arrests made had the camera been off. After all, someone woulda had to be arrested when the authorities found out their officers and the speaker had been beaten to a pulp and ripped to shreds. Gotta love that ol' religion of peace, Islam.
Posted by: Mad Monica at May 15, 2010 03:16 AM (FA6yM)
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Doesn't that Muzzie chick's profile look just like the Wicked Witch of the West? Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: nraendowment at May 15, 2010 03:32 AM (wWJ1T)
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First time I ever had a reason to admire the 'piss art' of the cross in a tub of piss example mentioned in earlier comments. If nothing else, it demonstrates the difference between the religions. You've the 7th century barbarians versus the grown-ups that recognize bullshit when they see it. Congrats to Vilks for standing up to these sons of bitches.
May they rot.
May they rot.
Posted by: F the Muslims at May 15, 2010 05:02 AM (tJJVi)
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Posted by: F the Muslims at May 15, 2010 05:02 AM (tJJVi)
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SGT Dan, I hope you're right.
Meanwhile, a large enough portion of the populace has become total mouth breathers as to allow this kind of BS to grow to the point the only ones left armed will be vets (illegally) and Islamists Pedophile followers given another 20 years.
Meanwhile, a large enough portion of the populace has become total mouth breathers as to allow this kind of BS to grow to the point the only ones left armed will be vets (illegally) and Islamists Pedophile followers given another 20 years.
Posted by: F the Muslims at May 15, 2010 05:09 AM (tJJVi)
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Posted by: Mohammed, Vilks' Bitch at May 15, 2010 05:14 AM (tJJVi)
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Very few people get to see the Muzz in action. Until the truth is covered by the usual suspects it's like pissing into the wind.
Posted by: kansas at May 15, 2010 09:10 AM (2kVkH)
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I hear there will be a "loving head butt interactive display of peace" at the center
Posted by: Mac Gootbone at May 15, 2010 09:36 AM (9KBWp)
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WOW -Those tea partiers are even more violent than I thought!...Huh...oh you mean those weren't tea partiers? My mistake...I should have known..if they were that video would be all over the news and several would be arrested and hauled off to jail........
Yeah let's bring more of these lunatics into the country...that's one way to finish it off!
Yeah let's bring more of these lunatics into the country...that's one way to finish it off!
Posted by: Mary at May 15, 2010 09:59 AM (60lgi)
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Yep, the Swedish constabulary are both cowards and stupid. They still haven't caught the murderer of Prime Minister Olaf Palme, murdered in Stockholm by a "rumored-to-be-Kurdish" dude a couple of decades ago.
No second amendment rights and a police force made up of candy-ass fruitcakes---a recipe for a jihadist takeover.
Sweden is beyond shaming. They have turned into girlie-men and slut-women.
No second amendment rights and a police force made up of candy-ass fruitcakes---a recipe for a jihadist takeover.
Sweden is beyond shaming. They have turned into girlie-men and slut-women.
Posted by: daveinboca at May 15, 2010 10:54 AM (muPb3)
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This video shows you that you can't have the First Ammendment without the Second Ammendment.
Posted by: Tantor at May 15, 2010 11:04 AM (Ek/Oc)
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Back off dude. I never, ever said anything like
that!
I have never, ever even considered that.
To even think that I think that is not only mis-reading me, but I
think you are an absolute asshole to even consider that.
Get me?
I can make it even more clear if you want.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:52 PM (6oDXl)
Reread what you wrote. It's EXACTLY what you've been arguing.YOU said that people of deep religious faith are automatically compelled to react to insults against their religions with violence.YOU brought up Martin Luther to argue that Europe is steeped in a culture of religious violence.YOU denounced Lars Vilks for provoking a reaction from Muslims in his audience.The clear and inescapable conclusion from your argument is that we should not condemn Muslims (or indeed any deeply religious believers) for committing acts of violence against people who insult their religion because they simply can't help giving into their instant emotional reactions, and that we instead have a positive duty never to say or do anything that they might find offensive against their religion.Some might say that if you can't see that's what you have been arguing all along, you're either a low-grade cretin or a squish who thinks freedom is bad if it means people's feelings might get hurt. But they're wrong. You are BOTH a cretin and a squish.You can call me an asshole again. You can call me an asshole fifty times if you like. But at the end of the day, I will still be right and you will still be a low-grade cretin and a squish.Thanks for playing.
that!
I have never, ever even considered that.
To even think that I think that is not only mis-reading me, but I
think you are an absolute asshole to even consider that.
Get me?
I can make it even more clear if you want.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:52 PM (6oDXl)
Reread what you wrote. It's EXACTLY what you've been arguing.YOU said that people of deep religious faith are automatically compelled to react to insults against their religions with violence.YOU brought up Martin Luther to argue that Europe is steeped in a culture of religious violence.YOU denounced Lars Vilks for provoking a reaction from Muslims in his audience.The clear and inescapable conclusion from your argument is that we should not condemn Muslims (or indeed any deeply religious believers) for committing acts of violence against people who insult their religion because they simply can't help giving into their instant emotional reactions, and that we instead have a positive duty never to say or do anything that they might find offensive against their religion.Some might say that if you can't see that's what you have been arguing all along, you're either a low-grade cretin or a squish who thinks freedom is bad if it means people's feelings might get hurt. But they're wrong. You are BOTH a cretin and a squish.You can call me an asshole again. You can call me an asshole fifty times if you like. But at the end of the day, I will still be right and you will still be a low-grade cretin and a squish.Thanks for playing.
Posted by: stuiec at May 15, 2010 01:29 PM (W+GYq)
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You seriously need to brush up on your history...
You realize this isn't an argument, right?
Quotes, links, and historical accounts would constitute evidence. Asserting that someone doesn't know his history amounts to dick.
As far as I know, Martin Luther did not advocate violence on his behalf or on behalf of his beliefs. To the contrary, he spoke out against it.
If you have other evidence that shows he was an advocate of committing violence against those with whom he disagreed, then prove it. Your snotty assertions and presumed superiority don't much impress me.
You realize this isn't an argument, right?
Quotes, links, and historical accounts would constitute evidence. Asserting that someone doesn't know his history amounts to dick.
As far as I know, Martin Luther did not advocate violence on his behalf or on behalf of his beliefs. To the contrary, he spoke out against it.
If you have other evidence that shows he was an advocate of committing violence against those with whom he disagreed, then prove it. Your snotty assertions and presumed superiority don't much impress me.
Posted by: Warden at May 15, 2010 03:03 PM (fE6tn)
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AP just reported that Lars Vilks home has been hit by a suspected arson attack. Hot Air has the details. Sons of bitches.
Posted by: crazyjerseyguy at May 15, 2010 03:15 PM (xp9ed)
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Muslims need to learn to respect other people.
Posted by: John Henry Eden at May 15, 2010 03:46 PM (c13oK)
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Muslim pigs being Muslim pigs - what a novelty! I personally am not surprised by this - are you surprised? I mean, really? Of course you're not. So why are we always being "taken by surprise" by these predictable tactics? Why aren't we ready to fight back when we encounter these herds of enraged swine? I think we should all make a point of going about armed now - if not with guns, then with pepper spray, cudgels, chains, or whatever is handy. Just like the early North American settlers, who carried their guns with them, even to church, because they knew that an Indian ambush could happen anywhere, anytime. Let's stop pretending that we're living among civilized human beings anymore, because we're not, and until these pigs feel a sharp stinging blow across their snouts, they'll just keep coming back for easy slops.
Posted by: Dr Mabuse at May 15, 2010 03:59 PM (CPdUf)
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Any truth to the rumor that Uppsala will soon be renamed "Insh'allah"?
Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at May 15, 2010 04:55 PM (zzP3l)
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"Islam rules, it is not ruled."
Posted by: The Sanity Inspector at May 15, 2010 07:11 PM (ykuYp)
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Well, your god may not be a homosexual as you claim, but he certainly is a pedophile, having slept with Aisha when she was nine years old.
Posted by: lew at May 15, 2010 08:38 PM (YowJZ)
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You seriously need to brush up on your
history...
If you think Martin Luther was a
compassionate man, or even a person
who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the
religious wars in Europe. Go
ahead. And good luck.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM
(6oDXl)
Fill in the blank:
Deadly terror attacks by Muslims since 9/11: Over 15,000
Deadly terror attacks by Christians since 9/11: _____________
history...
If you think Martin Luther was a
compassionate man, or even a person
who tolerated religious beliefs other than his...
Well, in that case, try to ignore the
religious wars in Europe. Go
ahead. And good luck.
Posted by: HH at May 14, 2010 11:07 PM
(6oDXl)
Fill in the blank:
Deadly terror attacks by Muslims since 9/11: Over 15,000
Deadly terror attacks by Christians since 9/11: _____________
Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at May 15, 2010 08:50 PM (bxiXv)
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Provocative, perhaps.. but it wasn't his work. As far as I know the film was by an Iranian, and a woman, I think.
And you know the pack of Muslims must have gone there looking for a fight. You don't show up at a porno film and then be outraged there's nudity and hard core sex. They all new what Lars Vilks was about.
And you know the pack of Muslims must have gone there looking for a fight. You don't show up at a porno film and then be outraged there's nudity and hard core sex. They all new what Lars Vilks was about.
Posted by: Incognito at May 15, 2010 10:52 PM (7Clig)
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"We pay taxes!"
Sounds like someone is upset that his tax kronar went to the making of the "film" in question.
-------
If it is true that they pay taxes and that the dude was funded by the state, then I feel a bit more sympathy for them...unless of course the mosques are paid for by taxes as well - which I would assume the case in Sweden - what isn't paid for by taxpayers there?
Sounds like someone is upset that his tax kronar went to the making of the "film" in question.
-------
If it is true that they pay taxes and that the dude was funded by the state, then I feel a bit more sympathy for them...unless of course the mosques are paid for by taxes as well - which I would assume the case in Sweden - what isn't paid for by taxpayers there?
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