I Heard A Great Joke Yesterday...Former NY Governor George Pataki Might Be Thinking Of Running For President!

Oh dear God, it's not a joke?

I wanted to blog about this last night but things got in the way. Still, I think it's worth covering today.

Pataki, as you may recall started out as a fairly conservative governor of NY who won on the strength of the Al D'Amato- Bill Powers machine and Cuomo fatigue. Not long after that he became quite the liberal.

Look at it this way, he's Rudy Giuliani without the colorful personality and actual accomplishments.

Does Pataki really think there's a clamor for a big spending, pro-choice candidate in the Republican Party. Don't think he's a big spender? Take a look at what he did to Medicare in New York and the deal he cut with the local SEIU crew.

Medicaid thus came to dictate spending priorities in Albany. The most recent (and glaring) example is the career of Republican governor George Pataki, who arrived in office in 1995 railing against Medicaid overspending but then blasted it even higher by cutting politically expedient deals. In 1999, Pataki added billions to Medicaid with funds from cigarette taxes and the states’ share of revenues from the national Master Tobacco Settlement. The next year, he signed the Health Care Reform Act, which used Medicaid dollars to offer a new plan, Family Health Plus, that extended coverage to adults who earned too much to qualify for traditional Medicaid. And in 2002, to help cement his reelection bid, Pataki helped funnel an additional $1.8 billion in Medicaid funds into raises for SEIU 1199’s private-sector home-care workers; a few months after the bill passed, the union endorsed Pataki in the general election. Pataki won, but New York paid a steep price: by the time he left office in 2006, Medicaid spending had nearly doubled since 1995.

The New York Times had the details of the Patiki-Joe Bruno (then the Republican leader of the NY State Senate and now convicted on federal corruption charges) deal with SEIU.

I get Pataki not wanting to run for the Senate. It's a special election for the last two years of Hillary's term which means the winner will be running again in '12. That means 3 years of fundraising and campaigning across God forsaken places in NY. And if you're lucky and win...you get to be a Senator. Yeah, I don't blame him for not wanting that.

But President, George? No. I think we've had our fill of big spending, socially liberal candidates for President.

As for NY this year...forget it. The GOP had to recruit a Democrat to flip parties to run for Governor. He's now running a nasty campaign against Rick Lazio who has Rudy's support and that's about it. Neither has a chance against Andrew Cuomo. Oh, there's another guy running who is either a Republican or a tea party type, it's not really clear. He's been caught forwarding racist and sexually explicit emails around. So....

There are some no names lining up to run against Gillibrand but none have a shot. They are local gadfly types as far as I can tell. Too bad, Pataki or Rudy could have beaten her easily but they didn't want to make the run.

Chuck Schumer is up this year as well but he and his $20 million war chest are likely running unopposed.

The Republican wave may reach unexpected places across the country like California but when it comes to statewide races, NY will likely be a breakwater for Democrats. Do expect to see a few House seats go Republican (Massa's district, the 23rd where Doug Hoffman is running again and NY 20 look like good opportunities for pick ups).

Posted by: DrewM. at 10:17 AM



Comments

1 There is space for exactly one NY politician on the national scene, and that space is already filled.

Posted by: CyclopsJack at April 15, 2010 10:19 AM (a4o2p)

2 Is there something like "Gaydar", except for RINOs?

Posted by: crowsting at April 15, 2010 10:20 AM (61BD9)

3 He'll pull 2% in the primaries.

Posted by: toby928 at April 15, 2010 10:20 AM (PD1tk)

4 2
Is there something like "Gaydar", except for RINOs?

Posted by: crowsting at April 15, 2010 10:20 AM (61BD9)

No need, "Gaydar" works pretty much for both...

Posted by: alexthedude at April 15, 2010 10:22 AM (UJ7x1)

5 Posted by: alexthedude at April 15, 2010 10:22 AM (UJ7x1)
Ah, I figured as much.....lol

Posted by: crowsting at April 15, 2010 10:24 AM (61BD9)

6 It's not all bad being a Senator. Late at night you can drape a sheetaround yourself and pretend you stabbed Caesar.
I suppose you don't really need to be a United States Senator to do that, but it makes it a bit more authentic I'd imagine.

Posted by: Zuggs at April 15, 2010 10:24 AM (FkKjr)

7 If he wants a shot at President(and I doubt he has one), he would run for that Senate seat...

Posted by: yarrrrr at April 15, 2010 10:24 AM (Ue2a6)

8 Indeed so.

Pataki is a twit and as toby928 said he'll get the hobo vote and not much else, except where Democrats can vote in large numbers in GOP primaries.

Posted by: eman at April 15, 2010 10:25 AM (fTJLU)

9 5

Posted by: alexthedude at April 15, 2010 10:22 AM (UJ7x1)

Ah, I figured as much.....lol

Posted by: crowsting at April 15, 2010 10:24 AM (61BD9)

Homophobe!

Posted by: Bawney the Fwank at April 15, 2010 10:25 AM (UJ7x1)

10 9Homophobe!


Posted by: Bawney the Fwank at April 15, 2010 10:25 AM (UJ7x1)

What he thaid...

Posted by: George "G-Pa" Pataki at April 15, 2010 10:27 AM (UJ7x1)

11 I think we've had our fill of big spending, socially liberal candidates for President.

That's what you think.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, the RNC and the MSM at April 15, 2010 10:27 AM (4YUWF)

12 Let him waste his time and money if he wants.

Posted by: Mal at April 15, 2010 10:28 AM (Z+qzA)

13 10What he thaid...


Posted by: George "G-Pa" Pataki at April 15, 2010 10:27 AM (UJ7x1)

Hey man, get your rip-off urban marketing out of my grill.

Posted by: Tim "T-Paw" Pawlenty at April 15, 2010 10:28 AM (UJ7x1)

14 Whether it's a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green or Highly Educated Whites the fact remains the entire NE political class is full of hyper-schizophrenic hypochondriacs.

For a Change would the NE political class please either moveon.org, leave the room or relocate to Obama's 57th State called Harvardville because America is fed up with your bamboozling confidence game.


Posted by: Highly Educated Whites=Liberal's Useful Idiots at April 15, 2010 10:29 AM (OewfB)

15 Does Pataki really think there's a clamor for a big spending, pro-choice
candidate in the Republican Party.

I thought that RINO SOB had switched parties long ago. Yeah, that's just what we need in the 2012 race and primaries, another freakin' RINO. But hey, maybe that's good.

In the 2008 race the damn conservatives and fake conservatives battled it out and siphoned off enough votes so that the RINO maverick got it. Maybe if we have three NE liberal RINOs in the primaries they will all kill each other and a damn conservative will come out on top this time.

Go Pataki (but only if RINOs Rudy and Romney also run)

Posted by: Vic at April 15, 2010 10:29 AM (QrA9E)

16 13Hey man, get your rip-off
urban marketing out of my grill.


Posted by: Tim "T-Paw" Pawlenty at April 15, 2010 10:28 AM (UJ7x1)

Yer all a bunch of racists anyway...

Posted by: Michael "Grandmaster Flush" Steele at April 15, 2010 10:31 AM (UJ7x1)

17 [face palm] George needs to stop reading the NYT and run for Gillibrand's seat. I mean, president? Bad enough to have Ritt Momney...

Posted by: joncelli at April 15, 2010 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

18 Pataki running for President reminds me of fuckhead Chris Dodd being part of that eternal travelling dog-and-donkey show that ultimately gave us Toonces.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 15, 2010 10:37 AM (V5s1P)

19 Pataki:
Yale University and Columbia School of Law.
What did you expect?

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at April 15, 2010 10:37 AM (dQdrY)

20 He must be smoking some mighty good dope.

Does he think we have forgotten all his slimy real estate deals?

Posted by: Kemp at April 15, 2010 10:37 AM (vSiVD)

21 Political expedience explains a lot of what's wrong with the Northeast. While Pataki was sweeteining the pot for healthcare workers, New York City's hospitals were running below 60% occupancy. So we easily could have gotten by with 1/3 fewer hospital beds.
But the local GOP came on bent knee to the unions and begged them to endorse or at least sit out if they'd promise to keep the beds open. They agreed to run vercapacity so workers could clean up after patients that never checked in. Now St. Vincent's, the only facility in the West Village, is out of business.
Nice work, all!

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 15, 2010 10:39 AM (rplL3)

22 Pataki did more to harm the Republican brand in NY then probably anyone in the last 20 years. He also did nothing to strengthen the party structure in NY during his tenure.
His "leadership" was also pretty sad. Although probably better than any of the dems he ran against would have been, he was far, far too liberal. In NY, it would be tough for a governor to be a far-right conservative. But, he we far more liberal than he needed to be as a NY republican. He also made terrible deals with the unions, which we are paying for more than ever now.
I can't imagine he would garner even 1% in any state but NY, and even in NY, I would be very surprised if he got even 15%

Posted by: Monkeytoe at April 15, 2010 10:40 AM (9hB6b)

23 At least CA has a reservoir of conservatives, Prager and Hewitt. At least IL isn't as leftist, overall, and is surrounded by less leftist places. NY is/has neither, and borders on socialist Canada and the ocean.

OY FRACKIN VEY

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 15, 2010 10:43 AM (bN5ZU)

24 Pataki should have run for Senate. I know, its a 2 year term, etc. But, I don't think his 2012 race would have been that much more difficult. Knock of Gillibrand in 2010 and who would you face in 2012? Gillibrand for Pataki v. Gillibrand, the rematch? Cuomo is out. Spitzer?
With Pataki out in New York and Tommy Thompson taking a pass in Wisconisn, the table is becoming tough to run. Last shot: Dino Rossi in Washington to take on Patty Murray. Then, you still have to win the other 9 possible races (North Dakota, Delaware, Indiana, Nevada, Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, California and Pennsylvania) along with Washington and not lose the 5 opens (New Hampshire, Missouri, Ohio, Florida and Kentucky) plus have Burr hold on in North Carolina.
The only other option you have is to pick up 9, getting you to 50-50, and then beg Joe Libermann (or perhaps some other Western State Democrat) to switch.
Republican 2010 Senate Campaign. Starting to remind me of an old Daryl Hall/John Oates song "So close....yet so far away.".

Posted by: Mallamutt at April 15, 2010 10:45 AM (V9SYy)

25 George Pataki who helped run the NY GOP into the ground thinks he should run for President!?? He couldstep up, helpNYS and the entire country by taking Gillbrand's seat away from the socialist/marxist dems but it's all about you and your egotistical ambition isn't it George?

Posted by: muggedbyreality at April 15, 2010 10:47 AM (eUGzR)

26 I hate this state.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 15, 2010 10:51 AM (erIg9)

27 Hey, at least Buffalo is supplying a conservative candidate in Carl Paladino. There's been controversy surrounding some supposedly "racist" e-mails he forwarded, though. The Buffalo News is in full attack mode on him, and the Tea Party apparently pulled its support.

Posted by: Pyrocles at April 15, 2010 10:52 AM (xzSvW)

28 I hate this state.

Shit, New York is making me nostalgic for Iowa, and living in Iowa was like being dead, except dead people don't have to get up and go to work every day.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2010 10:58 AM (mR7mk)

29 Just when I was starting to think there are actual Americans hiding all over the country (Even in Massachusetts! Who saw THAT coming?), you give this analysis of my own state. Very depressing.
I guess you could completethe phase "give me tired, your poor, your huddled masses" with "so they can sponge off our rich bankers, who have way too much money".

Posted by: Optimizer at April 15, 2010 10:59 AM (odEHq)

30 Posted by: Pyrocles at April 15, 2010 10:52 AM (xzSvW)

"Supposedly racist"? Here's a tip, if you want to run for elective office and you are forwarding jokes with the N-bombs in it, it better damn well be a Richard Pryor sketch.


Posted by: DrewM. at April 15, 2010 11:00 AM (9B5OK)

31 Well, I guess we could help out by coming up with some campaign slogans.

Pataki! Never Convicted.

Pataki. I can outspend Obama 2 to 1.

Pataki. Because what's good for the unions is good for ... the unions.

Pataki: California went bankrupt first!


Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 15, 2010 11:04 AM (e8T35)

32 @ 25. Damn straight! Fucker did nothing to build the GOP in the state. And he had opportunities. Then he fucked the WTC rebuild, and its still a damn hole!
NY is in for some dark times, until the morons who thought Scuzzifuzzi was a good candidate get kicked out of their leadership positions.
Its disgusting that no one will step up to take a swing a Chucky Schmucky.

Oh, I'd add NY 19 to the list. John Hall really tied himself to Rangle's money. Not good. Plus it was a Republican district before Hall. It could swing back, especially as alot of the local and town elections went Republican last year.

Posted by: Iblis at April 15, 2010 11:05 AM (9221z)

33 drew, you dont think David Malpass has a shot at Gillibrands seat? I have been watching him on Kudlow for years, he is an economist and advoised GHWB Regan? and Rudy.

Posted by: mim/ginaswo at April 15, 2010 11:06 AM (Ah8DH)

34 "Supposedly racist"? Here's a tip, if you want to run for elective office and you are forwarding jokes with the N-bombs in it, it better damn well be a Richard Pryor sketch.
Chris Rock sketches are o.k. as well.

Posted by: Chris Rock's agent at April 15, 2010 11:07 AM (V9SYy)

35 @27 I'm in the Buffalo area, and (although I haven't seen them) it sounds to me like those emails that are supposedly so terrible are just fairly normal humor that people have beensending around forever. The thing is, it's just a dumb thing for someone with political aspirations to be doing. A rookie mistake, if you will.Paladino (who is a wealthy businesman)has a Tea Party platform, and some have chosen to stand by him because they strongly support his platform, despite the embarrasment. Oh, and the Buffalo News is owned by Warren Buffett (who was part of Obama's campaign team). It's a very liberal paper.
@28 When you find yourself nostalgic for Iowa, just remember that we owe the Obama presidency to those zombies in Iowa. If he had lost there, he might never have gained enough momentum to beat Hillary in the primaries.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 15, 2010 11:08 AM (odEHq)

36 More slogans

Pataki! Better socks than Spitzer!
Pataki! Not legally blind!
Pataki! Making you work for the government!
Pataki! Making Rockefeller Republicans cool again!

Posted by: Iblis at April 15, 2010 11:09 AM (9221z)

37 you dont think David Malpass has a shot at Gillibrands seat?

Is he willing to spend 10-15 million dollars of his own money so that there's a chance people will have heard of him by election day?

Even then I'd say, no.

I know everyone is going to point to Scott Brown but that was the perfect storm...an open seat, a terrible Democrat and health care was still on the table.

Gillibrand has the power of incumbency (see her idiotic grocery store subsidy idea. It will play well in parts of the state) and she's not a bad candidate. Schumer will pull out all of the stops to help her as well.

If someone was going to beat her, it really was going to have to be a name candidate like Rudy or Pataki. You need that in NY to overcome the built in advantages Democrats have.

If Paterson were the Democratic candidate for Governor Lazio might have had a shot but you need some kind of edge as a Republican (name, scandal, fatigue with the incumbent, something).

I don't see what a guy like Malpass has in that area.


Posted by: DrewM. at April 15, 2010 11:15 AM (9B5OK)

38 When you find yourself nostalgic for Iowa, just remember that we owe
the Obama presidency to those zombies in Iowa.

Yeah, and Fuckabee won there, too. So that part is just like New York...but in Iowa you can buy booze at the grocery store until 2 in the morning, and the state parks are free.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2010 11:19 AM (mR7mk)

39 but in Iowa you can buy booze at the grocery store until 2 in the
morning, and the state parks are free.

Hell in NV you can buy booze 24/7.

Posted by: Vic at April 15, 2010 11:27 AM (QrA9E)

40 I'm still going for Paladino . Lazio's already a loser, and any one who runs against a Dem is automatically a racist in NY anyhow. All he has to say is "I'm a guy and I like guy jokes. Fuck off pussies."

Posted by: Iblis at April 15, 2010 12:08 PM (9221z)

41 Pataki in 2012! Because someone has to make The Maverick look good...

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 15, 2010 12:38 PM (30xKW)

42 Goes to show how feckless the NY Republican Party is. NO ONE in the state party should ever be given a job in Washington.

True story = The NY County Committee had a fundraiser recently, and less than 50 people showed up...They didn't even send invitations to the fucking members of the County Committee. Word of mouth advertising for a fundraiser. God help us all.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 15, 2010 12:41 PM (Gs0qi)

43 Don't underestimate K. Gillibrand. She wouldn't have folded as easily as some might have thought. Anyway, now we're stuck with her.

Posted by: John S at April 15, 2010 08:49 PM (ooFtI)

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