John Adams Sues Government For Information On Use Of Drones In War On Terror

Via John Noonan, it's not Adams himself but his modern day incarnations at the ACLU.

Seems the group filed a Freedom Of Information Act requesting just a few details about an ongoing, top-secret set of programs. Surprisingly, given the predilections of the current administration, the government didnt want to give up that information (or just hasnt responded fast enough for the ACLU) so they are suing in federal court.

In particular, the lawsuit asks for information on when, where and against whom drone strikes can be authorized, the number and rate of civilian casualties and other basic information essential for assessing the wisdom and legality of using armed drones to conduct targeted killings.

"The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being carried out in its name are consistent with international law and with the country's interests and values," said Jonathan Manes, a legal fellow with the ACLU National Security Project.

"The Obama administration should disclose basic information about the program, including its legal basis and limits, and the civilian casualty toll thus far."

Oh is that all they want to know? Well asking questions about on going military operations is simply in the finest traditions of American justice. I mean, wheres the sport in going to war if you are going to hide information from your enemy?

What possible reason is there for the release of this information other than to hurt US anti-terror efforts and give the jihadis propaganda talking points?

I understand that in a democracy people need to know what's being done by their government to make informed decisions. Thing is, everyone knows the broad outlines of the program...we fly drones in and around Pakistan and Afghanistan. When we find bad guys we blow them up. Sometimes we are wrong and civilians are killed. How much more do you need to know if you support the idea or not?

Refresh my memory, who exactly elected the 5th Columnists at the ACLU to take it upon themselves to dig up all this information and disseminate it to our enemies? Of course its unfair to attack the lawyers who are doing this, I mean you cant judge a lawyer by the cases he takes or the causes he decides to serve. Or so Ive been told.

They aren't anti-American, they are pro-terrorist.

All I could think of when I saw this story was a skit from Saturday Night Live back during the first Gulf War...


Yeah, the press was so bad even SNL (including Al Franken) made fun of them.

Posted by: DrewM. at 01:17 PM



Comments

1 When can we begin prosecuting the ACLU for treason?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 17, 2010 01:21 PM (i3AsK)

2 Oh, and UNO!
Now I can start drinking...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 17, 2010 01:22 PM (i3AsK)

3 Heh-- came in here to make that same SNL sketch joke, "Where are your troops, and can I go count them?"

Posted by: X at March 17, 2010 01:23 PM (7rOET)

4
But they saw it in Syriana, teh CIA is EEEEEVIL!!!11/!!1

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 17, 2010 01:24 PM (fx8sm)

5 Not seeing the connection between the civil liberties of American citizens and the operational doctrine of drone strikes in a distant theater of war. Maybe the ACLU needs to change its name to ACUL to better reflect both its roots and its current mission: the Advancement of a Communist Utopia League.

Posted by: stuiec at March 17, 2010 01:24 PM (7AOgy)

6 That is one of my all time favorite bits.

And back to one of our favorite fights, how the hell does the ACLU via whomever have standing to get that information? Unless the Obami plan on bombing a US civilian's house with a drone, there's no individual harm.

Posted by: alexthechick at March 17, 2010 01:25 PM (8WZWv)

7 No, you know, you're taking John Adams all wrong. And not being fair to these guys.They are just like John Adams.
They're behaving exactly as John Adams probably would have behaved.


Toward Britain.

Posted by: Entropy at March 17, 2010 01:25 PM (IsLT6)

8 1 When can we begin prosecuting the ACLU for treason?
Just as soon as the shooin's over. Buy hemp stock, cause the price is going out of sight.

Posted by: maddogg at March 17, 2010 01:25 PM (OlN4e)

9 I'm not sure how this has anything to do with American civil liberties. Are my civil liberties being infringed upon by blowing up terrorists?

Posted by: Mal at March 17, 2010 01:27 PM (Z+qzA)

10 Anti-American
Combatants
Love
Us

Posted by: Damn Skippy at March 17, 2010 01:28 PM (VDgKF)

11 OT: but Stupak is currently acting like a stone-cold killer on Fox News with Megyn Kelly right now, claiming that some of the lists going round of his supposed "Stupak Dozen" are downright laughably wrong, that there are "surprises" in his gang, and that they're all going to hang together to prevent the "soft vote 'if I'm the last guy'" pressure from coming on them.

Tough talk.

Posted by: Jeff B. at March 17, 2010 01:29 PM (GhUHn)

12 What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:29 PM (wOGfT)

13 Posted by: alexthechick at March 17, 2010 01:25 PM (8WZWv)

I was wondering that myself.

As best as I can tell, they filed the FOIA and didn't hear back within two months so now they are suing under FOIA.

My guess is this is a publicity stunt. They know that this info isn't reachable under FOIA and they couldn't just sue to get the info so they create a fake nexus and now they get press coverage.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 17, 2010 01:29 PM (9B5OK)

14 They aren't anti-American, they are pro-terrorist.

They're both.

Air National Guard runs some drone missions in Afghanistan out of the base at Hancock Airport at Syracuse, and "peace activists" have actually followed airmen home and screamed at their children. They don't care about peace; they want American airmen to be killed.

(Link is to their patch; it's moron friendly.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 17, 2010 01:29 PM (mR7mk)

15 "The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being
carried out in its name are consistent with international law and with
the country's interests and values," said Jonathan Manes, a legal
fellow with the ACLU National Security Project.

Take your international law and blow it out your ass, counselor. Our options in this matter, in order of decreasing "collateral damage" are:

1- Unrestricted nuclear attack
2 - Targeted nuclear attack
3 - Conventional carpet bombing
4 - Targeted wide-area bombing.
6 - Targeted Drone strikes
5 - Precision bombing followed up with ground troops
6 - Personal assassination.

So you think reducing the risk to the so-called "civilian population" is worth inserting troops or assassination teams. I don't think it is.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:30 PM (OtQXp)

16

OT..? Those racisty teabagging racists at Galllup have Wee Wee upside down.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 17, 2010 01:30 PM (fx8sm)

17 REVOLUTION!!!!

No. Really: http://tinyurl.com/ye52xyk

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 01:31 PM (5aa4z)

18 Since when is the American Civil Liberties Union considered with rights of people not even on our soil?

Posted by: taylork at March 17, 2010 01:31 PM (0Hn5w)

19 What CIA drone strikes?

Posted by: Jean at March 17, 2010 01:31 PM (ouk5a)

20 12
What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:29 PM (wOGfT)
One is a slimy bottom-feeding scavenger, and the other is a fish.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:32 PM (OtQXp)

21 As far as I'm concerned, the ACLU and AQ are equally dangerous to this country.

Different methods, but they both want the same result.


Posted by: Unclefacts, Meteor Summoner At Large at March 17, 2010 01:32 PM (erIg9)

22 What CIA drone strikes?

That's my line. Go away.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 17, 2010 01:33 PM (wOGfT)

23 Of course its unfair to attack the lawyers who are doing this
Didn't get the message, huh, Drew? It's unfair to attack lawyers anytime, for anything.
Because they make the rules, that's why.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at March 17, 2010 01:33 PM (2QFX4)

24 SNL was so much better when they take the public caricature of a subject and just runs with it. That's what makes the David Paterson bits so hilarious.

Posted by: wtfci at March 17, 2010 01:33 PM (+zo63)

25 One is a slimy bottom-feeding scavenger, and the other is a fish.

Bingo. A solid B+.

What do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of a lake?

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:34 PM (wOGfT)

26 Wow, that SNL sketch was really a "who's who":

Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Phil Hartman, Al Franken (!), Chris Farley (!), Conan O Brien (!).

Guess that show really WAS funny once upon a time. . .


Posted by: looking closely at March 17, 2010 01:34 PM (6Q9g2)

27 "The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being
carried out in its name are consistent
with international law and with
the country's interests and values," said Jonathan Manes, a legal
fellow with the ACLU National Security Project.

Again, what the fuck does this have to do with American civil liberties.If were to use international law as a guide we'd have far fewer civil liberties than we do now.

Posted by: Mal at March 17, 2010 01:35 PM (Z+qzA)

28
What do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of a lake?


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:34 PM (wOGfT)
A good start.What is the difference between a dead lawyer laying in the road and a dead dog laying in the road?

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:36 PM (OtQXp)

29 What do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of a lake?

A good start

Posted by: taylork at March 17, 2010 01:36 PM (0Hn5w)

30 Even a constitutional scholar like myself knows this type of FOIA request is preposterous.

Unless Bush were in office.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 17, 2010 01:36 PM (fDWFP)

31 Seems to me like the ACLU "national security project" is designed to ensure that we don't have any.


Posted by: looking closely at March 17, 2010 01:36 PM (6Q9g2)

32 What is the difference between a dead lawyer laying in the road and a dead dog laying in the road?

The skid marks.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:37 PM (wOGfT)

33 32
What is the difference between a dead lawyer laying in the road and a dead dog laying in the road?

The skid marks.


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:37 PM (wOGfT)
Right- there are skid marks in front of the dog.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:39 PM (OtQXp)

34 Sir, sir, I have a two part question. Where do the ACLU lawyers live so that our drones may more effectively target them? And can you tell me the make, model, color and license plate on their cars?

Don't make me file a FOIA.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2010 01:39 PM (ympF8)

35 What do you get when you cross a corrupt lawyer with a crooked politician?

Posted by: taylork at March 17, 2010 01:40 PM (0Hn5w)

36 What do you get when you cross a corrupt lawyer with a crooked politician?

Chelsea Clinton

Posted by: MikeO at March 17, 2010 01:41 PM (lBmZl)

37 35
What do you get when you cross a corrupt lawyer with a crooked politician?


Posted by: taylork at March 17, 2010 01:40 PM (0Hn5w)
Chelsea

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:41 PM (OtQXp)

38 What do you get when you cross a corrupt lawyer with a crooked politician?

Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:41 PM (wOGfT)

39 @ Herr Morganholz, #17:

Problem is, Mr. King is thinking Prague, 1989. The other side is thinking Budapest, 1956.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at March 17, 2010 01:43 PM (Jdtsu)

40 A guy walks into a lawyer's office, the lawyer has him sit down and then asks "how can I help you?" The guy says "how much do you ask to answer a question?" The lawyer replies "$100". "$100, the guy says, isn't that a lot of money for one question?" "Yes it is" Says the lawyer, "Now what's your third question?"

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:44 PM (OtQXp)

41 LOL. we were just talking about John Adams. I have always considered him the original big government asshole. In any case:
"The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being carried out in its name are consistent with international law and with the country's interests and values," said Jonathan Manes, a legal fellow with the ACLU National Security Project."
Where is this "right" enumerated? Is it up there in the same right as heath care?
And as for sometimes we make mistakes and hit innocent civilians, I think that is actauly rarer that chicken's teeth. What you have is the terrorists camping with the civilians making them no longer "innocent".

Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2010 01:44 PM (QrA9E)

42 What do you get when you cross a corrupt lawyer with a crooked politician?

Except which one is which? They're both corrupt lawyers, and crooked politicians.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:44 PM (wOGfT)

43 SNL's best lineup evuh, for sure (well not Franken, but the rest of the show at that time).

Posted by: Mark in Portland at March 17, 2010 01:45 PM (+45yf)

44 the snl first iraq war clip:

before the clintonists war on on republicans, before the demonization, before the contempt and hate for conservatives.

Posted by: gomm at March 17, 2010 01:46 PM (Ibk1S)

45 We are so boned.

Posted by: mpfs at March 17, 2010 01:47 PM (iYbLN)

46 The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being carried out in its name are consistent with international law
Oh, may I please tell you how much I care about your international laws?

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 17, 2010 01:48 PM (Be4xl)

47 OT : Breaking news: Oberstar breaks from Stupak, will vote yes.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2010 01:49 PM (ympF8)

48 47
OT : Breaking news: Oberstar breaks from Stupak, will vote yes.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2010 01:49 PM (ympF
What did he get?

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:49 PM (OtQXp)

49 SNL's best lineup evuh, for sure (well not Franken, but the rest of the show at that time).

NO WAY better than Belushi/Akroyd/Murray et. al.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:50 PM (wOGfT)

50 oh, halcyon days, before the clintons' cult of personality turned all things into a political war. it was us vs them, but the "them" wasn't the iraqi's or al qaeda, but the republicans.

Posted by: gomm at March 17, 2010 01:50 PM (Ibk1S)

51 OT/ The latest posting from the Treasury Department shows the National Debt
has increased over $2 trillion since President Obama took office.
Holy shit!!! we still have 3 years to go.

Posted by: Mal at March 17, 2010 01:50 PM (Z+qzA)

52 And this is distinguishable from spying on the US...how?

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 01:51 PM (RD7QR)

53 OT : Breaking news: Oberstar breaks from Stupak, will vote yes.

So did he get the John Murtha James Oberstar Memorial Little-Used Airport in the Sticks?

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 01:52 PM (RD7QR)

54 The only founders the ACLU respects at this point are Marx and Lenin. They can try all they want to attach the names of America's founders to their activities, and it doesn't change the fact that the only use they have for our Constitution is to hide behind it as they undermine it, weaken it, and eventually shred it into confetti.

By the way, Muslims, the only reason they are defending you is that they hope to enable your radical element to do something so heinous, they'll be able to use it as an excuse to outlaw all religion. Useful idiot, meet useful idiot.

Posted by: Bitsko at March 17, 2010 01:54 PM (8/KZN)

55 I believe that the military actually gave misleading answers to the press during Iraq I, simply because they knew after all the attention paid to Iraqi communications CNN was the only way for Saddam to know what was going on at the front lines. Useful idiots, you see...

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (FTx5X)

56 When can we begin prosecuting the ACLU for treason?
When we can begin prosecuting the MSM for treason.

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (2yI/i)

57 22 The ACLU is trying to get information about a program which may or may not exist - shit blows up in Pakistan all the time, all on it own.

Posted by: Jean at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (3WbbL)

58 O/T: Drudge has the flashing red light: "Obama upside down in Gallup; now more disapprove."

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (p302b)

59 Why don't sharks attack lawyers?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 01:56 PM (dQdrY)

60 Obama is under water in Gallup! you know, the oversampled Democrats and poill any clown who picks up the phone poll?

Posted by: YRM at March 17, 2010 01:56 PM (rbtaB)

61 53
OT : Breaking news: Oberstar breaks from Stupak, will vote yes.





So did he get the John Murtha James Oberstar Memorial Little-Used Airport in the Sticks?

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 01:52 PM (RD7QR)
Whatever he got it's not enough to make up for the legacy of being part of the undoing of American liberty that he has bought at the expense of his integrity and honor.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:56 PM (OtQXp)

62 59
Why don't sharks attack lawyers?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 01:56 PM (dQdrY)
Professional courtesy.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:57 PM (OtQXp)

63 What did he get?
10 minutes with KuKu's wife.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2010 01:57 PM (ympF8)

64
Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (p302b)
my problem with this is that he's acting like Gallup which was 17/20 in a study on getting elections right is the place for getting poll numbers, that shoukd go to Rasmussen which has him -9 underwater

Posted by: YRM at March 17, 2010 01:57 PM (rbtaB)

65 What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 01:58 PM (2yI/i)

66 When we can begin prosecuting the MSM for treason.
Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (2yI/i)
Before you leave for the front. You simply can't afford to have them behind you.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 01:58 PM (dQdrY)

67 "The public has a right to know whether the targeted killings being
carried out in its name are consistent with international law"


Fuck the ACLU. International law?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Meteor Summoner At Large at March 17, 2010 01:58 PM (erIg9)

68 Why don't sharks attack lawyers?

Professional courtesy.

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

69 What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 01:58 PM (2yI/i)
A doberman?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 01:59 PM (dQdrY)

70 OT: Gallup has 46% disapprove, 47% approve.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 01:59 PM (Vo2Ef)

71 that he has bought at the expense of his integrity and honor.

This prick never had either of those traits.

He has been redistributing wealth in MN for decades this is just his normal M.O.

Posted by: Present Odumbass at March 17, 2010 01:59 PM (tf9Ne)

72 What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?

A rottweiler.

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 01:59 PM (RD7QR)

73 55
I believe that the military actually gave misleading answers to the
press during Iraq I, simply because they knew after all the attention
paid to Iraqi communications CNN was the only way for Saddam to know
what was going on at the front lines. Useful idiots, you see...

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 17, 2010 01:55 PM (FTx5X)
Yes, they did and boy was CNN pissed when they found out! I think it was a little bit of payback from Schwartzkopf for the way the media behaved in Viet Nam.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 01:59 PM (OtQXp)

74 I think Drudge should put the flashing red light and the headline "Country upside down, common sense has been thrown out the window in favor of power and complete control"

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 02:00 PM (p302b)

75 What's tragic about a bus of lawyers going off a cliff?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:00 PM (dQdrY)

76 Error on #70, that's 46% APPROVE, 47% DISAPPROVE.

First time A<D on Gallup.

Gallup polls adults, not registered or likely.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 02:01 PM (Vo2Ef)

77 75
What's tragic about a bus of lawyers going off a cliff?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:00 PM (dQdrY)
One empty seat.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:01 PM (OtQXp)

78 What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?

What's red, yellow, and orange and looks good on a hippie?

Posted by: MikeO at March 17, 2010 02:01 PM (lBmZl)

79 What's tragic about a bus of lawyers going off a cliff?

The bus driver went over too?

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:02 PM (RD7QR)

80 One empty seat.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:01 PM (OtQXp)
Heh. These jokes seem universal. I wonder why?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:02 PM (dQdrY)

81 I thought Minnesota was a nice place until a friend dated a girl from Madina and she made my old money friend with the mansion in the hamptons, the pent house on central park west and several houses in Europe and across the USA look humble.. The fun part for us girls was proving to her that the "designer bad that she bought in NY was a fake".

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 02:05 PM (p302b)

82 A blind snake and a blind bunny are moving along through the forest and bump into one another. After apologies, they chat and become friends, and decide to play a game in which one will describe himself to the other, who will try to guess what the first one is. The bunny says, "I'll go first. I have soft fur, floppy ears, and a cotton tail. What am I?"

"A bunny?" guesses the snake.

"That's right!" says the bunny. "Now it's your turn."

"Okay," says the snake, "I'm low, slimy, and move around by slithering on the ground. What am I?"

The bunny ponders. "Uh, a lawyer?"

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:06 PM (RD7QR)

83 Say, here's an idea. Let's use some drones to target the ACLU. That way they can judge, first-hand, how effective they are.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 17, 2010 02:06 PM (eNxMU)

84 How do you keep a lawyer from drowning?

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:07 PM (wOGfT)

85 83
Say, here's an idea. Let's use some drones to target the ACLU. That way they can judge, first-hand, how effective they are.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 17, 2010 02:06 PM (eNxMU)
I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:08 PM (OtQXp)

86 83
Say, here's an idea. Let's use some drones to target the ACLU. That
way they can judge, first-hand, how effective they are.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 17, 2010 02:06 PM (eNxMU)

Even better, invite them to go to these places we're blowing shit up in, and have a first hand look themselves. Let the fuckers embed themselves with the Taliban and AQ, they ought to feel right at home.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Meteor Summoner At Large at March 17, 2010 02:08 PM (erIg9)

87 How do you keep a lawyer from drowning?
Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:07 PM (wOGfT)
Take your foot off his/her head.
But, why would you want to?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:09 PM (dQdrY)

88 What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
The answer is doberman but rotweiller works too.

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (2yI/i)

89 84
How do you keep a lawyer from drowning?


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:07 PM (wOGfT)
OK, ya got me- how?

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (OtQXp)

90 What's red, yellow, and orange and looks good on a hippie?

A bonfire.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (wOGfT)

91




Gallup

3/14 - 3/16

1547 A

46

47

-1


Rasmussen Reports

3/14 - 3/16

1500 LV

44

55

-11

Note the difference in numbers and likely voters vs adults.
By adults they mean the losers on the corner smokin' crack and waitin' for the stash.

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (VMaS6)

92 ALERT! Ace of Spades just mentioned on RUSH!

Posted by: mpfs at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (iYbLN)

93 Rush just mentioned AceOfSpades.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (dQdrY)

94 O/T, but Ace of Spades just got a Rush mention!

Posted by: Fortunate Son at March 17, 2010 02:10 PM (trlZM)

95 ACE being mentioned on RUSH right now!

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (VMaS6)

96 Rush just mentioned Ace of Spades on his show.

Posted by: jewells at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (l/N7H)

97 Ace of Spades on Rush! WOO!

Posted by: Brenden at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (T8da7)

98 Rat Patrol is on it, Nighthawk.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (wOGfT)

99 OMG.....Just listening to Rush, and he quoted Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Ad rem at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (7jW2a)

100 Haha, I see I wasn't the only one to hear that and be within seconds of my keyboard.

Posted by: Fortunate Son at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (trlZM)

101 Ace is big time! If only he still posted at his blog.

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (RD7QR)

102

Rush Limbaugh is stealing Gabe's whip count number crunching.

At least he attributed it.

Posted by: Tinian at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (7+pP9)

103 WOOHOO ACE SHOUT OUT ON RUSH!

Posted by: tdpwells at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (Ei3oZ)

104 Rush mentions Ace! You are somebody!

Posted by: Twinks at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (wRPBa)

105 LOL- guess you can tell who listens to Rush!

Posted by: jewells at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (l/N7H)

106 Ace of Rush: teh Flaming Skull?

Posted by: RushBabe at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (LKkE8)

107 Shit, there goes the neighborhood. And new comments thingy.

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (wOGfT)

108 I'm gonna faint. Now everyone will want to be a moron.

Posted by: mpfs at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (iYbLN)

109 Whooo hoo Rush reads our Moron!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (cniXs)

110 ....still talking about AOS!

Posted by: Twinks at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (wRPBa)

111 Rush? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (BiCQw)

112 Grab yer ass, Pixie--Ace just got a mention on Limbaugh.

Posted by: DaveyNC at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (4ISyi)

113 98
Rat Patrol is on it, Nighthawk.


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (wOGfT)
HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (OtQXp)

114 101 Ace is big time! If only he still posted at his blog.
Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM (RD7QR)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: RushBabe at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (LKkE8)

115 Wow, I feel famous

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (VMaS6)

116 On the AIR BABY! SHOUT OUT!

Posted by: Johnny I at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (ZyYZ0)

117 its over, one of the stupak 12 just peeled off the for the dems

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (wuv1c)

118 Hey, snakes aren't slimy. Ed Grimley taught me that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 17, 2010 02:13 PM (eNxMU)

119 Rush is talking about Ace, get ready for the cite to crash

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (wuv1c)

120 And again!

Posted by: DaveyNC at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (4ISyi)

121 hey did you hear rush mention ace? lol. way to go Gabe!

Posted by: Prez BO at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (k38Fq)

122 Who is Rush? Isn't that the Canadian rock band?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (978fA)

123 So the place will be flooded with Ellie Lights and Mobys shortly?

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (BiCQw)

124 Get your pudding ready Ace, that corporate buyout may now be on the horizon.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (cniXs)

125 oops/ stupid sock

Posted by: A.G. at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (k38Fq)

126 i knew rush stole my witty comments from the AoS comment section, this confirms it.

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (wuv1c)

127 107
Shit, there goes the neighborhood. And new comments thingy.


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:12 PM (wOGfT)
Pretty soon it'll be like what Yogi Berra says: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded!"

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (OtQXp)

128 oh no does that mean we have to put our pants back on?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (SB0V2)

129 Ace is famous now! Or is that infamous?

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 02:15 PM (2yI/i)

130 OMG, STILL talking about our moronsphere!

Posted by: Twinks at March 17, 2010 02:15 PM (wRPBa)

131 Rush is talking about this blog.

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 02:15 PM (p302b)

132 Rush keeps mentioning AoS. Would be nice if he mentioned the actual link.

Posted by: JWF at March 17, 2010 02:15 PM (1l37M)

133 Who peeled off the stupak for the dems? Was it one of the two women?

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (VMaS6)

134 Hide the HOBOS! Sequester the Val-U-Rite!

Posted by: sithkhan at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (kZHDL)

135 Great, Ace is going to go all mainstream on us. Get ready for Gold, Select Number Mattress, and Crisis Garden ads on the website

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (wuv1c)

136 Come on people, this isn't really secret information, like Obama's college transcripts and medical records.

Posted by: The MSM at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (7BU4a)

137 Ace,

we want to make an offer.

Posted by: Salem Communications at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (OOXFA)

138 oh no does that mean we have to put our pants back on?

Pants?

Posted by: Charllie Gibson at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (wOGfT)

139 128
oh no does that mean we have to put our pants back on?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (SB0V2)
And hide the Valu-Rite?

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (OtQXp)

140 Who peeled off the stupak for the dems? Was it one of the two women?
oberstar or something, i think he is from minnesota.

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (wuv1c)

141 Well then, that just confirms that the apocalypse must be upon us.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (RZ8pf)

142 I'm heading out today to pick up my fright winger t-shirts, maybe I should send one to Rush.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (4hukR)

143 It ain't over Ben, Rush just said some site called Ace of Spades says it isn't.
Those guys MUST know what they're talking about, right????

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (T1boi)

144 I knew rush stole my witty comments from the AoS
comment section, this confirms it.

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (wuv1c)
Hey, what's so wrong with a little uncredited usage really?

Posted by: Joe "Kinnock" Biden at March 17, 2010 02:17 PM (7BU4a)

145 Ace is gonna give a speech on civility and not fucking cussing again.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:17 PM (dQdrY)

146 oh no does that mean we have to put our pants back on?

And type with two hands?

Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 02:17 PM (wOGfT)

147 135
Great, Ace is going to go all mainstream on us. Get ready for Gold, Select Number Mattress, and Crisis Garden ads on the website

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:16 PM (wuv1c)
Just as long as he doesn't start hawking kindles- and calendars, I HATE calendars...

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 17, 2010 02:17 PM (OtQXp)

148 What do lawyers and sperm have in common?
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One in a million turn out to be human.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 17, 2010 02:18 PM (5aa4z)

149 Ace is gonna give a speech on civility and not fucking cussing again.
Well, it is about time for another go at it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 17, 2010 02:18 PM (RZ8pf)

150 Ace is big time! If only he still posted at his blog.
Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:11 PM
(RD7QR)

Give him time, there will be two or three posts about it...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2010 02:18 PM (7BU4a)

151 Shit. Do we have to put the Valu-Rite in a glass and quit pissing in the sink?

Posted by: joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:18 PM (RD7QR)

152 Just as long as he doesn't start hawking kindles- and calendars, I HATE calendars

why would you buy something, calenders, that every friggin company gives away for free?

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:19 PM (wuv1c)

153 Ace is gonna give a speech on civility and not fucking cussing
again.Hey, FUBO is my mantra, ok.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2010 02:19 PM (7BU4a)

154 AoS: Whip counts that aren't better than anyone else's!

Posted by: Johnny I at March 17, 2010 02:19 PM (ZyYZ0)

155 Ace is gonna give a speech on civility and not fucking cussing again.
and then promptly apologize for the tone of the speech 20 minutes later

Posted by: Ben at March 17, 2010 02:19 PM (wuv1c)

156 Everyone better watch their fucking language now.

Posted by: Mal at March 17, 2010 02:20 PM (Z+qzA)

157 Shit. Do we have to put the Valu-Rite in a sink and quit pissing in the glass?


Posted by: The Drunken joncelli at March 17, 2010 02:20 PM (wOGfT)

158 Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2010 02:18 PM (7BU4a)

You know Ace disappears for days on end and says nothing. Now the Zero hedge guys are planning to disappear. They said something about "light posting". I've never seen those guys not be able to post. I mean they get up in the middle of the night and post while they are watching the Asian markets...

Wonder what is really going on?

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 02:20 PM (p302b)

159 Hey shut up you assholes!

Posted by: Boone at March 17, 2010 02:20 PM (v0kvW)

160 Just another example of a case where we should have a "loser pays" system. This case has zero merit and the judge should have thrown it out to begin with. But, I supposed they shopped around until the found another commie Clinton appointee.

Posted by: Vic at March 17, 2010 02:21 PM (QrA9E)

161 dagny, ordinarily determining a LV in a non-presidential year isn't easy. The conventional wisdom is that it hinges a lot on who is more motivated. I trust Ras, he's very good and every time I assume he hasn't taken something into account, it seems he has. But I would say that, given who is motivated, if there is any error on the LV screen it is that he's undercounting disapproval.

However, I do trust him and he's probably right. Keep in mind that this is Obama approval. There are all sorts of psychological factors in place that effect a president's rating. Obama's is artificially high compared to his policies.

This is not good news for Congressional Democrats.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 17, 2010 02:21 PM (Vo2Ef)

162 maybe we'll get some better trolls here. Axelrod: Just because they live under bridges doesnt mean they are trolls, let alone quality trolls. There's no sport in it... sort of like having bumper guards on a bowling lane. And if you aren't familiar with those, ask your boss.

Posted by: A.G. at March 17, 2010 02:21 PM (k38Fq)

163 You know Ace disappears for days on end and says nothing. Now the Zero hedge guys are planning to disappear. They said something about "light posting". I've never seen those guys not be able to post. I mean they get up in the middle of the night and post while they are watching the Asian markets...

Wonder what is really going on?

We found out that they're actually secret agents rooting out muslim terrorists. But don't tell anyone.

Posted by: ACLU at March 17, 2010 02:23 PM (RD7QR)

164 Axelrod: Just because they live under bridges doesnt mean they are
trolls, let alone quality
trolls.

Minimum wage and all the government cheese you can eat just don't get the same quality of troll they used to.

Posted by: Axelrod at March 17, 2010 02:23 PM (7BU4a)

165 We found out that they're actually secret agents
rooting out muslim terrorists. But don't tell anyone.

Posted by: ACLU at March 17, 2010 02:23 PM (RD7QR)
My lips are sealed!

Posted by: Osama Bin Laden at March 17, 2010 02:23 PM (7BU4a)

166 Q: What's the difference between a porcupine and a Mercedes Benz full of lawyers?A: The porcupine has pricks on the outside.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:24 PM (dQdrY)

167 Rush keeps mentioning AoS. Would be nice if he mentioned the actual link.
And prepare for the inevitable army of mobys, trolls and concerned conservative Christians.

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 02:25 PM (2yI/i)

168 Surprise surprise - this is the same ACLU that stalked and revealed the identity of CIA interrogators to terrorists. All in the name of freedom right?

Posted by: Bald Ninja at March 17, 2010 02:25 PM (4pdbX)

169 To any progressives that are checking us out now: We hate you. Not just a little in an idealogical way but intensely with the heat of a thousand burning suns. Haters? When it comes to "progressives"? Yes, real and actual and glorious hate.

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:26 PM (VMaS6)

170 Q: What do lawyers use for birth control?A: Their personalities.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:26 PM (dQdrY)

171 By the by, I'm just interested; has Chuckles turned on Israel yet? I don't go over there anymore, but the suspense is killing me, even though it's inevitable.

Posted by: Bitsko at March 17, 2010 02:27 PM (8/KZN)

172 Rush is wondering what awesome powers I have that could flip that gnome Kucinich. He should ask Michelle.....

Posted by: President Juggy McFuckears at March 17, 2010 02:27 PM (UOM48)

173 What's the difference between a dead possum and a dead lawyer in the road?


There are skid marks before the possum.

Posted by: dagny at March 17, 2010 02:27 PM (VMaS6)

174 Rush giving out an additional number:
original number: 202 224 3121
new number: 202 225 3121

Posted by: curious at March 17, 2010 02:28 PM (p302b)

175 oh no does that mean we have to put our pants back on?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 17, 2010 02:14 PM (SB0V2)
And hide the Valu-Rite?
And hide the hobos.

Posted by: katya at March 17, 2010 02:28 PM (2yI/i)

176 curious - off-sites in Vegas, don't ask

Posted by: Jean at March 17, 2010 02:28 PM (OlnxK)

177 And type with two hands?
Do i have to quit typing with my boobs?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 17, 2010 02:29 PM (cniXs)

178 Somebody should post some instruction on how to use this board on the front page - before we get hammered with hundreds of post about how to post a link, etc.

Posted by: Jean at March 17, 2010 02:30 PM (pIKTP)

179 Hey you guys are mean! Hobos have rights to your stuff, too!

Posted by: Libtard at March 17, 2010 02:30 PM (ZyYZ0)

180 Wait do the moronettes need to put their bras back on now that we are famous?

Posted by: mpfs at March 17, 2010 02:32 PM (iYbLN)

181 181
No.

And get that UV light away from the bunk!

Posted by: Johnny I at March 17, 2010 02:34 PM (ZyYZ0)

182 63
What did he get?
10 minutes with KuKu's wife.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 17, 2010 01:57 PM (ympF


Ew yuck. KuKu's wife is hot and all but anywhere that Kucinich has been......

Posted by: fozzy at March 17, 2010 02:35 PM (ccEuN)

183 someguy in here telling us Ace is a nobody blog because of his loose shit in 3...2....1....

Posted by: Unclefacts, Meteor Summoner At Large at March 17, 2010 02:36 PM (erIg9)

184 So when can we schedule the ACLU scumbags for their drawing and quartering? Seems to be the appropriate punishment for those actively siding with the enemy...

Posted by: Hatchet Five at March 17, 2010 02:44 PM (Kt5vQ)

185 Q: What do lawyers use for birth control?A: Their personalities.
Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 02:26 PM (dQdrY)
Bill and Hillary used a picture of Chelsea over the bed.

Posted by: Fish at March 17, 2010 02:50 PM (M5t+h)

186 Is it true that Eisenhower is only faking being interested in crossing
the Pas-de-Calais and the real landings are in Normandy?





And supplemental, and is it true that you want to go in on June 5th but
the weather might force Allied forces to go in on the 6th instead?



Have you seen the rubber tanks, General? Have you? Have you?

Posted by: NYT reporter at March 17, 2010 03:22 PM (KdA1d)

187 OK, WTF is a "moby"? I wasted several machine cycles and I/O operations searching the net, and all I found were references to some lameass rock musician.

Posted by: COLOSSUS at March 17, 2010 03:23 PM (WmZrs)

188 Bill and Hillary used a picture of Chelsea over the bed.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at March 17, 2010 03:24 PM (wOGfT)

189 What is the
difference between a dead
lawyer laying in the road and a dead dog laying in the road?
The
skid marks.


Posted by: CUS at March 17, 2010 01:37 PM (wOGfT)

Right- there are skid marks in
front of the dog.

And people feel sympathy for the dog.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2010 03:29 PM (KdA1d)

190 Moby explanation.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 17, 2010 03:31 PM (KdA1d)

191 The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit Tuesday demanding that the government disclose the legal basis for its use of unmanned drones to conduct targeted killings overseas.
Maybe they should ask Tom Hanks. He says its because theyre different.
The wisdom and legality can be summed up in two sentences: Were at war. Theyre used to kill the enemy.
Since when has international law had any real effect on muslim terrorists? Do they give a shit? This countrys interest and values lie in our defense and the fight against world-wide Islamic-sponsored terrorism. They must not teach that in law school.
The Obama administration should disclose basic information about the program, including its legal basis and limits, and the civilian casualty toll thus far.
How about this civilian casuality toll: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Its a link to the deaths, injuries, and violence carried out by the same kind of muslim shitbags we target with the Drones.
Fuckin' ACLU assclowns should ask the Taliban about the "legalities" of using IEDs, and children as human shields.

Posted by: SFC MAC at March 17, 2010 04:35 PM (RPkOk)

192 Two "prominent" lawyers have a column in the Tribune telling us how this is just carrying on the fine legal tradition of defending unpopular clients. Of course, they don't cite to one example of an attorney assisting an enemy in a time of war in that time and they throw in how the unwashed just don't understand legal ethics. I'm a lawyer and I find them to be twisted.

Posted by: ed at March 17, 2010 04:43 PM (Urhve)

193 Seems to be the appropriate punishment for those actively siding with the enemy...
Posted by: Hatchet Five at March 17, 2010 02:44 PM (Kt5vQ)
Didn't there used to be a legal term for that? Started with a "T"?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 17, 2010 04:55 PM (dQdrY)

194 Does it occur to anybody else that maybe Holder/Obama wants this info out there? How better then to get the ACLU behind it.

Posted by: Peckerhead at March 17, 2010 07:07 PM (7W/LO)

195 But mostly they are well heeled muslims who once again are taking our very freedom and...what do we call this class? That's correct Johnny, they are taking our freedom and using what's left against us. Just like the infiltration at Reuters and AP, the stacking of the ACLU is very much by design. If they aren't conniving a way for us to take off our shoes at the airport in deference to Sheik Richard Reid, they are compelling us to subject our women folk to genital groping by drooling TSA workers in the name of Sultan Abdulmutallab. Are we having fun yet? They aren't stopping until we are required to throw down a prayer rug and crawl through the metal detector on hands and knees. Facing east.

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Posted by: survivor at March 17, 2010 10:00 PM (crDIp)

197 In addition to finally realizing how to properly apostrophize, perhaps one day you'll learn that Americans don't live under a "mob rules" democracy, but under the rule of law known as a republic.

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