1 I really hate this administration.

2 Blech.  Another snow day.  I'd rather be at work. 

3 Very nicely done, Slublog.

4

I like this post more than I hate this administration.

Well said, Slublog.

5 All I have to say to Brennan is ... pfttt!!!  _{(this administration has sooo much credibility.)}

6

I noticed that Brennan referenced terrorism a few times in the article.

Is that term back on the table? Can they update their meme? I'm confused as to what we're permitted to call it these days.

This op-ed is just an extension of Obama's snit-fit last week. Shut off the blogs! Turn on Fox!!1!!! Oh and let me throw in CNN and MSNBC for good measure.

The desperation at this point is palpable.

7

Those people at NPR are just wicked perceptive!  Damn!

At first glance, it would seem to be from some person or group who isn't thrilled by President Barack Obama's performance so far -- unless it's a more ironic message from those who didn't think too much of Bush and want to remind voters about him.

8 Obama is what he is. The mold has been cast and destroyed. Don't waste your time trying to reason with an idiot, it's impossible.

9 The desperation at this point is palpable.


No lie.  I predict that it will be only six months or so before the rats begin to leave the sinking ship.

10 And the notion that America's counterterrorism professionals and America's system of justice are unable to handle these murderous miscreants is absurd.

No, no, it isn't.

Trying to wage war with lawyers and judges and legal briefs is absurd.

11

Very well said.

Unfortunately, this administration is going to kick and scream about any effort to solve our nation's problems in a post-partisan way.  For self preservation, perhaps we should start believing the opposite of everything they tell us.

12 @9  Too late, they're already leaving.  Bye, Hillary. 

A competent administration would reboot and reorganize, but Obama's isn't flexible enough to do that.  That's what happens when you never had any core competence to begin with.

13 I disagree Slublog, I think we are really close to a fatal, unreconciliable, schism in the opposing parties worldviews.  There is no reasoning with some of these people.

14 In the end, Mr. President, it comes down to a single question. Is dissent still patriotic?

No. (sheesh I was told there were "no stupid questions", I guess I was wrong)

15

I'm long past the point where I just assume that anything Obama, or his minions, say is a lie, or at the very least, self-serving spin. 

Watch what they do, not what they say.

16

"Let me be clear, Mr. President. We agree that national security should not be a partisan issue, and that the most important function of government is to keep its people safe. But make no mistake - a party that spent eight years sowing the wind should not be surprised when the whirlwind of recriminations and partisanship overtakes them. The current political atmosphere is regrettable, but it was also preventable."

I see what you did there.  And my nether-regions yearn to envelop themselves with its silky embrace.

17 The age of Zero. Smart is dumb and dumb is smart. He must be the smartest guy in the country.

18

 I believe it's still possible for us to reason together...as long as the progressives regressives invite gets lost in the mail.

/fixed

19

If you oppose this Manchurian-Candidate Muslim President, then you're just helping Al-Queda.

Right. Got it.

20 I love how these idiots claim that everything Bush did was evil,wrong,un-American,etc,etc.
But in this case their best defense is Bush did it too.

21

 but you see, excessive partisanship and hoping for failures when a Republican was in charge was "truth to power". Now, it's Teh Devil!

22 Sarah Palin just farted.  We now go live to David Shuster being a douche.

23

I have two words for this fucking traitor:

Nigerian underpants.

24

19  If you oppose this Manchurian-Candidate Muslim President, then you're just helping Al-Queda.

Right. Got it.

You!  Yes, You!  Just for that you get no New York trial!

25 I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say, "We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!"

Oh wait. Evil Rethuglicans are helping al-Qaeda.

26

To paraphrase the words of the prophet Isaiah, I believe it's still possible for us to reason together.

Good post but I disagree with that line there.  It takes two to "reason together".  When one side only wants to spew bullshit and take down the country it is not possible to "reason".

As a once famous conservative said, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue".

27

Zero and his merry band of idiots are the best opportunity Al Qaeda is ever gonna have to hit us hard. They would be fools to miss this chance. And I don't think they are the kind of fool to miss out on their best opportunity to kill as many of us as they can. They won't get such a chance in the future.

28 Lets keep one thing in mind.  During the cold war our enemy were masters of disguise, fake credential, diplomatic immunity, license to kill, and all that rot.  These clods are incapable of dressing incognito, are using their real names and identification, getting entry visas despite "no fly lists", and they are hitting their targets.  Granted not always successfully, but that's on their own incompetence, not out brilliant counter terrorism.  Our intelligence community along with their political master are not giving me a warm fuzzy feeling.

29 It's not incivility if it's true. Bush, Cheney and Rove are war criminals

30 Fuck you, I WON!

31 Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2010 10:53 AM (QrA9E)

I don't believe it's possible, either.  I was writing in O-style, which meant I had to include a random Bible verse somewhere.

32

Isn't this the same genius who accused Republican Senators and congressmen of lying last week, pissing them off royally?

If Congress goes Republican, this POS will have to escape to Pakistan and live in the cave with Bin Laden.

33

President The Won does not want dissent, patriotic or otherwise.  He wants the kind of forced obedience given by the peasants in Cuba, or the old USSR, or China, or any other dictatorship.  It must be driving him to distraction that his own party members in the House & Senate won't do his bidding and pass his commie agenda. 

The only reason he has such huge majorities in both houses is because Rahm Emmanuel is too clever by half, and Rahm went out and recruited moderate democrats to run for office in moderate districts.  The press was simultaneously waging its own war against the Bush administration, so the elections of 2006 and 2008 were more a popularity contest featuring a battered Bush as the face of the republican party.  The democrats won a lot of seats.  But those people know perfectly well that their voters at home are not moonbats and are not happy about the direction the country is taking.  Hence their reluctance to vote for their own political destruction. 

I used to think that term limits for the US House and US Senate would be a good idea, clean out the deadwood every so often.  The events of the last year have changed my mind.  Clearly the only thing that has stopped the commie agenda has been the desire of those moderate democrats to continue holding their cushy jobs in Congress.  If all of them knew they would be lame ducks someday anyway, many of them would have voted for anything Obama threw at them.  Why not, if they might be able to secure some favors to be used in the future when they were term-limited out of office?

34 If they got their panties in a twist over this type of criticism then it's no wonder the WH dogs, the media, are going after Palin for what she delivered in Nashville. She shoved aknife in the Admin and was smiling gorgeously the whole time.

"We need a commander in chief, not a constitutional professor of law!"

Game over. You lose, Professor.

35

"Trying to wage war with lawyers,  judges and legal briefs is absurd." - nickless

Badda-Bing!!!!!

That's telling it like it is. Those officious, arrogant, pompous asses do more harm than good.

 

36 All this is, along with Michelle's interview, a direct response to Sarah Palin. The woman is giving these people fits.

37 "So, my fellow Americans, I am the one you've been waiting for.  I know what your core values should be.  I know what's good for you and this country.  Therefore, let's unite in a bipartisan effort to advance my cause.  I will sit down with everyone, from every party and - in the end - rest assured that I will still do it my way, because I won.  You will like total Socialism or you'll learn to, because I said so."

Mr. President, kiss the sunny side of my ass.

38 Boots-

I agree, but I'd also have to note that Bush did himself no favors by stepping on his d*ck with "immigration reform."

Also, there was some serious hanky panky in the Republican primary process, and the selection of "Obama-Lite" as the R candidate.

39 Hey BHO....FU.....

40 Why it seems that only a little while ago, that dissent was patriotic.

Treating terrorism like a crime problem and handing out summons and tickets, is a lot of the reason we're at where we are now in this war. Clinton anyone?

Hey brennan, blow me you hack.

41
From NRO's "Campaign Spot"

He Knows Who His Real Enemy Is, I Guess

"Looking again at the John Brennan op-ed in USA Today, I see he refers to Abdulmutallab as a "suspect" but asserts that administration critics, ipso facto, "serve the goals of al-Qaeda."

In other words, in the eyes of one the administration's top men on counterterrorism, Abdulmutallab gets a presumption of innocence that you and I don't."

42 This is just another case of liberal projection. After eight years of playing politics with national security the Dems automatically assume the other side would do the same. It really is quite disgusting.

43

Is dissent still patriotic?

I'm working on a documentary: From Patriotic to Racist Overnight; Dissent's Journey into the Abyss.

44

Slublog, this is a fine piece of writing.

However I think your tactic of using comparative logic is lost on the average liberal voter.

They got their guy and they're going to ride that dude into the abyss.

45 27

Zero and his merry band of idiots are the best opportunity Al Qaeda is ever gonna have to hit us hard. They would be fools to miss this chance. And I don't think they are the kind of fool to miss out on their best opportunity to kill as many of us as they can. They won't get such a chance in the future.

Posted by: maddogg at February 09, 2010 10:54 AM (OlN4e)

+100 right on the money maddogg!

46
Then: dissent = patriotic
Now: dissent = treason

47 I think they need to do a full body search and scan every time BHO boards Air Force One.

48

Slublog can work on bridging gaps.

I will continue to mock.

49

GOP  response in same line as Slublogs response to bipartisanship offer with  regards to health care http://tiny.cc/fsf6N

50
For self preservation, perhaps we should start believing the opposite of everything they tell us.

Yes, this political environment is going to decay into something ugly, because to the True Believers, they really ARE at war with the Teabaggers/conservatives/whathaveyou.   Things are going to get ugly, but the more the mask is removed from the 'progressives', the more the average American recoils in disgust.

51

To paraphrase the words of the prophet Isaiah, I believe it's still possible for us to reason together.

You'll get dismissed as a flat-earther if you reference something religious. And the part after the comma is just not true.

Just rework that sentence.

 

52

I was writing in O-style, which meant I had to include a random Bible verse somewhere.

O-style; LOL good one, is that the same as O-logic?

53

"Trying to wage war with lawyers,  judges and legal briefs is absurd." - nickless

 

I hate those guys!!!

54 I'm seriously wondering who's more of a danger to this country, this administration and it's cronies, or the terrorists around the world.

55

Winston Smith -

Agreed, the immigration reform issue was an unforced error of unbelievable proportions.  Why would the republican party try and import as many new democrat voters as possible??? 

And I also couldn't figure out how the despised McCain won the republican primary.  I admire the man's service and the courage he clearly possesses, and the sacrifices he made while in uniform.  But his political career has been one gigantic thumb in the eye to his fellow republicans.  He has enjoyed his role as the republican who hates other republicans and gets stroked by the press for being so "reasonable".  There can't be that many Navy vets in the republican electorate to put him over the top.

56

54 I'm seriously wondering who's more of a danger to this country, this administration and it's cronies, or the terrorists around the world.

Does it matter? One hand washes the other.

57 Boots, McCain won because the Republican party hasn't figured out yet that close primaries are a good thing for the party.

58

Leave It to Beaver Episode 158, in which the Beaver discovers that being fourth grade class president is hard.  Especially all the math and letters and stuff.  John Edwards guest stars as Eddie Haskell.

 

59 I'm actually amazed (not really) at how similar to a particularly demented Kostard Odipshit sounded in 2002.

60

^{As a once famous conservative said, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue". Posted by: Vic}

It was Harry Jaffa's phrase written for B. Goldwater. Jaffa's said recently he wasn't proud of that line.

61

Boots, McCain won because the Republican party hasn't figured out yet that close primaries are a good thing for the party.

That and teh Fred! and teh Rudy! ran two of the worst campaigns ever.

62

31 See, that's what I get for commenting before I read the other comments.

63 So if political criticism of Obama serves the interests of Al-Qaeda, does that mean that organizations like the Chamber of Commerce or Veterans groups are gonna be on some "supporters of terrorism" list while orgs like CAIR and Code Pink merrily go about publicly working for an Islamist victory over the West?

64

That and teh Fred! and teh Rudy! ran two of the worst campaigns ever.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 09, 2010 11:16 AM (B+qrE)

Yeah Fred. dammit. guy has some good ideas, and some shitty campaign practices.

65 Why would the republican party try and import as many new democrat voters as possible?

If you think of them as very traditional Catholic voters, who would ultimately hit a "hard stop" of faith regarding much of the democrat agenda, maybe it makes more sense?

I don't think that scenario was a slam dunk by any means, but making long term bets on demographic trends is a viable approach.

66 "In the end, Mr. President, it comes down to a single question. Is dissent still patriotic?"

Sure, as long as your dissenting against Republicans.  Then have at it.  Nuance, my dear Slublong, NUANCE!

67

Jaffa's said recently he wasn't proud of that line.

What did he do, become a damn liberal squish?

68

What no posts yet on Obama's naked political ploy of a "Health Care Summit"? Come on Ace of Spades HQ, man up, that is some juicy stuff.

 

 

69 Actually, i think teh Fred! was just a bit ahead of the curve....his campaigning style was more suited to the Tea Party types than the general electorate.

70

Fred hemmed and hawed, would he run, maybe he wouldn't run, maybe he'll make a decision, maybe he won't...........enough already. 

I wanted to vote for Rudy, even tho he's squishy on social issues he's strong on defense and his work in NYC speaks for itself - lower crime rate after his years as a prosecutor, and a more liveable city after his years as mayor.  He does have all the issues with the wives, the ex-wife, what have you.  But it's all out there.  As opposed to Obama, where everything was and still is a big secret.

71 Oh Lord. Not again, Brennan

72 we should all join hands and sing a hymn in honor of Ear Leader:

"Hymn, Hymn, Fuck Hymn."

73 I think Fred's campaign was fucking pathetic. He looked like he could barely stay awake most of the time and showed the energy of a sick squid.

74

Thing is, I agree with Brennan that we do tend to act as if these terrorists are infallible, as if their idiotic plans and failed attempts are actual attacks. They're not attacks, really--they're thwarted attacks. That distinction is everything and we should all act like it. That is, to laugh at AQ and their exploding Hanes.

What I don't get is why Brennan would try to make that case in what is a thinly-veiled attack piece. Does he hope the logic of "They're not ten-feet tall" carries him over the weakness of his "Try them here!" case because he spits it all out one one glob?

You get the feeling he's dissemintaing talking points to the Times rather than engaging opponents. Business as usual for the Zero Administration.

 

75 What i meant was that Fred was looking to tap into the grass roots discontent and hopefully ride that wave in, but he was too early and not decisive enough.

76

What did he do, become a damn liberal squish?

Posted by: Vic

No. Not in the slightest. He was asked about it in an interview. He shies away from the question so it seems like he just doesn't like the phrase anymore.

Uncommon Knowledge: Part 4 of 5

77 In other words, in the eyes of one the administration's top men on counterterrorism, Abdulmutallab gets a presumption of innocence that you and I don't.

Well said, and chilling to contemplate.

78 I do believe I just had my patriotism questioned.

Summon the pitchfork brigade.

79

I don't give a fuck what this cock sucking hack says.  I care about what he does.

How did this useless piece of shit handle Richard Burns the Panty bomber.

He handled him the same way he'd handle a house burlgar. 

EPIC FAIL.

Why is anyone surprised.  This IS OBAMA.

80

The left's dissent is based on the premise that the United States is in the wrong and the cause of the world's ills.

The right's dissent is based on the premise that the United State's security and interests should be the primary focus and damn those that try to undermine that.

We wave the flag.  They mock those that wave.

81

We wave the flag.  They mock those that wave.

Posted by: polynikes at February 09, 2010 11:27 AM (m2CN7)

they also burn it.

82 George W Bush would never have announced intelligence gains and the methods to acquire them for the purpose of boosting his poll numbers.  He was focused on security and is a man of high character.

Obama did, is not, and has none.

83 Posted by: spongeworthy at February 09, 2010 11:25 AM (rplL3)



Granted, yet there's a very real danger in that viewpoint. Underestimating your opponent is a good way to get your ass kicked. In fact, I'll bet that lots of these lame-brain AQ schemes are designed to be underestimated.

Historically, one of AQ's signature moves is multiple, simultaneous and coordinated attacks. Yet the undiebomber and the shoebomber among others are single, isolated attacks. Part of that is because of the damage that we've done to AQ over the past 9 years, making coordinated attacks more difficult.  But I can't help wondering if some of this is by design.

84

Another reason the electorate had better think long and hard before believing anything a Democrat seeking national office says about national security.

Great post!

85

Historically, one of AQ's signature moves is multiple, simultaneous and coordinated attacks.

Posted by: The Chicken at February 09, 2010 11:35 AM (I/MqP)

 

I love this blog.

86 Damn, that's one smart chicken.

SockFail©

87 And the blog loves you mama!!

88

If they were 100 feet tall we'd be able to recognize them.  Then Naplitano would send larger jets for them so as not to discrminate against 100 foot tall Muslims.

Speaking of 100 feet tall, the WORLD TRADE CENTER was over one thousand feet tall.  What happened to it?  Did some "SUSPECTS" crash jets into them or soemthing??

You know what folks.  These mother fuckers seriously don't get it.  Brennan tells us we shouldn't have fear?  Just a little over a month ago a Muzztard attempted to detonate a BOMB on board a flight over Detroit.

And we're supposed to have confidence in these fools??

89 Mama AJ.....the Lord moves in mysterious ways. And he definitely has a sense of humor.

90 Slu: "...We agree that national security should not be a partisan issue, and that the most important function of government is to keep its people safe..."

Speak for yourself, you effin' retard. I don't agree with that except to the extent I can wring a crisis out of it to foment change. Because He won.

91

It's a smart military chicken blog.

 

92 This is just the "official" version of a libtard letter to the editor in the Sunday Boston Globe(-Democrat) - stating that he'd "been around to see 11 Presidential administrations and had *never* seen partisan rancor as bad as it is now."

Seriously.

My letter in response asking how the weather was near the rock under which he must have been living during the regime of Bush 43 was not deemed worthy of publication, however.

93

I wanted to vote for Rudy, even tho he's squishy on social issues he's strong on defense and his work in NYC speaks for itself

He looked like he could barely stay awake most of the time and showed the energy of a sick squid.

We got Mclame for a variety of reasons;  the biggest reason was the stupid "winner take all" way most the the States had in the Republican primaries. Before everyone started dropping out McLame only got about 30% of the vote.  That meant that 70% of the primary voters (e.g. the base) did not want him.  a large percentage of that "base" stayed at home on election day.

Open primaries was another reason, but only in States that allowed people to vote in both primaries.

The "fire in the belly" meme was a pure product of the liberal media, which included Fox.  IIANM that phrase was actually invented by liberal commie Piss Wallace.

As for RINO Rudy, yes his record speaks for itself. He is like most NE RINOs, he is liberal on everything bit defense, not just "social issues". The cutting spending credit in NYC actually belongs to his predicessor in NYC.

He is a gun grabber, he believes in open borders, and he was the one actually repsonsible for the SCOTUS decison that elliminated the line item veto. Fck him. And BTW, Fox was pushing him up until they found that he was teh stupid and wasn't going to campaign until FL.

After that Fox started pushing McLame. The Republican side of Fox is max RINO. Currently they favor Romney.

 

94 Where's all the lefty slurs of Obama qua chickenhawk for lobbing Predator Hellfire ordnance on AQ in Pakistan? 

95 Mr President, if you are now against politically motivated criticism, does this mean that you recant or regret the words you spoke in 2002?Well, perhaps that's he read on the teleprompter in 2002?Words... just words...

96 Damn, that's one smart chicken.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Don't take too much stock in what he says, though. He's just looking out for his own rear.

97 When there is no more room at the mental hospitals the insane and mentally retarded will govern the earth.

When I read the op-ed the only thing I got out of it was barry and company dreaming about dictatorships and how they could pull it off. There really are two americas.

98

 But I can't help wondering if some of this is by design.

Yeah, and the quality of sone of these volunteer martyrs is worrying. Richard Reed? Big friggin' doof. Pantybomber? Spills his guts when threatened with Kaffir-lunch. Not exactly prime recruits, either of them.

So it is worth questioning whether they send these losers to test us or to lull us into complacency or if they simply cannot find a better class of idiot to die for them. We should assume the worst case.

Myself I don't want to play into their hands, treat them like they are so scary that we cannot try them in a civilian area. We shouldn't because it's stupid and horrible precedent, but not because we're scared they might try to bomb us.

99 In the end, Mr. President, it comes down to a single question. Is dissent still patriotic?

Of course dissent is still patriotic -- but just as only whites can be racist, only leftists can engage in dissent.

Check your premises.

100 They aren't murderous miscreants anymore.  They are suspects and alleged criminals who have the full protection of our Constitution and the presumption of innocence.  The Administration is being a bit passive aggressive on the issue, don't you think.

101 So, if Brennan is correct and "politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serves the goals of al Qaeda," then Democrats should explain why they served the goals of AQ for eight plus years.

102

The civility claim, by you of all people, staggers me.

 

I’ve consistently read people on this website refer to the president in derisive terms and name-calling (‘teh One’, ‘Messiah’), much more than on any other conservative website I browse.

 

“Today I say to you that there is no meaningful difference between a president who directly attacks his critics and a president who unleashes his attack dogs upon the same.”

 

Does this include former president Bush’s attack dogs, Rove, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al.? I guess you're condemning Bush too in this statement.

 

“…we should not allow reflexive partisanship to threaten national unity in the face of a common enemy…”

 

Yet this is exactly what AoS did in the immediate aftermath of the recruiting station shooting, the Fort Hood massacre and the Christmas Day bombing.

 

I'm no great fan of Obama--so far I judge him to be pretty much a failure, but this is hypocrisy in the extreme.

103 Nice work Slublog.  Turning Obama's rhetorical tics against him is something that more should emulate.  If only to drive them out of continued usage.   They are cheap, dishonest, and unworthy of a President.

JEA needs to learn the difference between a  blogger and a political appointee of the Executive.

104 I’ve consistently read people on this website refer to the president in derisive terms and name-calling (‘teh One’, ‘Messiah’), much more than on any other conservative website I browse.

We have learned at your knee, Monsieur Racecard.

105 Eight years of "Chimperor for Life Hitler McHaliburton" is lecturing on "civility" because we're using words out of Barack Hussein "I Won" Obama's own mouth?

Yeah, we'll take that straight to heart.

106 Republican promise of civility? Never heard of it.

107 They're not attacks, really--they're thwarted attacks.

I disagree. They failed only because of the incompetence of the terrorist, not because of anything the government did...by the grace of God, if you will.

108 President Obama calling himself and his minions the ONES we've been waiting for? Never heard of it.

109 Messiah a derisive term? Sorry, I'll have to ask Diane.

110

slulog,  that is very well written and articulates much of what I have been feeling in an intelligent, rational, dare I say-'non-partisan' way.

Obama should read this and cringe; but sadly, he won't read it and if he did, I think he is too shameless to cringe. But maybe, in his heart of hearts, he would know...

Nice job!

111 a Marine Corp recipient

I've never heard of the Marine Corporation.

112

Great post, Slu! 

There's a good op-ed today in WSJ, "Cheney's Revenge"

"...the Administration has tried to break from its predecessors on serveral big anti-terror issues, and it is on those that it is suffering the humiliation of having to walk back from its righteous declarations.  This is Dick Cheney's revenge."

Here's the link to the whole thing:

http://tinyurl.com/ylqqdd5

113

With very few exceptions, Republicans have refrained from engaging in the small-minded politics of reflexive partisanship when it comes to national security. We have criticized your policies, but we have not, and will not, engage in the shrill auto-contrarian hatred that the left marinated in during the previous administration. We applaud your willingness to maintain Bush-era policies that keep America safe, but in doing so, will you now recognize that your previous opposition seems now to be little more than the knee-jerk response of a partisan?

Yup!

114 a Marine Corp recipient

I've never heard of the Marine Corporation.


I guess the sooper-genius, hyper-educated JugEars and his minions have never heard of a silent "S".

115

You guys missed the real "hooter" in John Brennan's attack speech.  He said it made no difference whether the Knickerbomber was handled by the military or by the US Attorneys.  He said "the rules of interrogation are the same in each instance".   Our blindingly brilliant counter terrorism chief failed to note that having an attorney representing the Knickerbomber might make this one little eensie wiensie tiny bit of difference. The lawyer can and did tell the Knickerbomber to STFU--which he did.  He didn't want to play anymore and talk anymore.  Sorry, you don't get to take a "time out" and say "I'm not talking because my lawyer told me not to talk" in military interrogations.  Now you may sit mute and not say much, but the military keep coming back.

You know if you can't blind the rubes with brilliance, you try to baffle them with bullshit.  I'm certain this crapola will do down well in Berkeley, San Francisco and Austin, but out in the real world, we can smell bullshit when it's flung in our face.

116 Posted by: JEA at February 09, 2010 12:03 PM (AfORa)

Thesis: President not living up to own promises of civility and new politics

Response: "But you mean blog commenters say mean stuff about the president, so you're like, hypocrites or something."

Question yet to be answered by president's apologists:  How the rhetoric by blog commenters (who are not elected officials) somehow removes Obama's obligation to govern in the manner he promised before the election.

117

William McGurn also had a good column today:  "Bush Was Right, Says Obama". 

"This weekend, Americans were treated to something new:  Barak Obama defending his war policies by suggesting they merely continue his predecessor's practices.  The defense is illuminating, not least for its implicit recognition that George W. Bush has more credibility on fighting terrorists than does the sitting president....Leave aside, just for a moment, the substance.  Far more arresting is that Mr. Obama now defends himself by invoking a man he has spent the past year blaming for al Qaeda's growth.

Here's the bigger picture:  When Mr. Obama arrived in the Oval Office his first official act was to order the closing of Guantanamo in the manner of Christ cleansing the temple.  Attorney General Eric Holder soon followed by opening a criminal investigation of the CIA's interrogaters.  And everywhere he went, Mr. Obama told anyone who would listen that when it came to terror, he would be the anti-Bush.

Abdulmutallab's foiled attempt to blow up a Northwest flight has changed everything.  The administration's misstatements and mishandling are provoking questions about its competence...In other words, we have what Team Obama would define as a messaging problem.  So expect more presidential speeches sprinkled with tough-sounding words such as "war" and "terrorist."  Maybe Robert Gibbs promising a review of policies that were themselves supposed to be revisions.  And when they realize they cannot close it, perhaps a renaming of Guantanomo as our new "Carribean House of Constitutional Correction."

118

JEA,

After 8 solid years of foaming at the mouth hatred of George Bush - try "Bushitler" vs. "teh One" on the nastiness scale for starters - no one from the left - who lovingly proclaim themselves to be the very models of civil discourse and tolerance -  has any credibility to call someone on the right out for lack of civility or hypocrisy. A non-starter.

119 JEA--the chicken called. He's tired of your "plucking."

120 The Obama Administration had previously made statements that to ensure there was no harsh treatment that all interviews of “high value targets” would be done by the FBI, instead of the CIA.

So, even if Brennan had told GOP leaders that the FBI was interviewing Abdulmutallab, there was no reason for the GOP leaders to infer that this “high value target” had been or would be mirandized.

121

May I assume that AoSHQ is aware that it was Brennan's people who broke into the State Department passport files?

Chief of firm involved in breach is Obama adviser
updated 9:10 p.m. EDT, Sat March 22, 2008
cnn.com

They were trying to find [and, presumably, to destroy] any evidence that Obama [as Barry Soetoro] had travelled on an Indonesian passport on or after his 18th birthday.

Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship at the time, so if it could be proved that Barack "Barry" Obama Soetoro Dunham ever considered himself to be an Indonesian citizen on or after his 18th birthday, then he would be constitutionally ineligible to assume the presidency.

And, of course, they were also looking for any evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham might have crossed over into British Columbia, to give birth, right before she started classes, in Seattle, at the University of Washington, in mid-August of 1961.

PS: Jack Cashill has some interesting new speculation about what might be BHOJr's true biological ancestry [Cashill wonders whether the Dunhams hired BHOSr to pretend to be the biological father, and Cashill also wonders whether the August 4 birthdate could be fraudulent]:

Another Look at Obama's Origins
By Jack Cashill
February 07, 2010
americanthinker.com

122 JEA is actually a nice change of pace, he's hung like a cricket.

123

Slublog: "How the rhetoric by blog commenters (who are not elected officials) somehow removes Obama's obligation to govern in the manner he promised before the election."

Did you read where I said I consider Obama pretty much a failure, or just conveniently skip that part?

RM, when did I say anything about the left being correct in attacking Bush? In fact, the right suffers from the exact same derangement syndrome the left suffered from when Bush was president.

You folks assume an awful lot, and read things I didn't even write.

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"I guess the sooper-genius, hyper-educated JugEars and his minions have never heard of a silent "S"."

Rotten to the corps.

125

Rotten to the corpse! corps.

 

FIFY!

126 Two shea.

127 Did you read where I said I consider Obama pretty much a failure, or just conveniently skip that part?

No, I read it.  I simply found it less than convincing. 

128

I'm certain this crapola will do down well in Berkeley, San Francisco and Austin, but out in the real world, we can smell bullshit when it's flung in our face.

Hey, don't lump me in with those moonbats.  I'm weird, but at least I'm surrounded by millions of tough Texans.

129 But make no mistake - a party that spent eight years sowing the wind should not be surprised when the whirlwind of recriminations and partisanship overtakes them. The current political atmosphere is regrettable, but it was also preventable.

May I remind everyone that the Left has always required absolute decorum towards president in times of war, and when I say "presidents," of course I mean, "Democrat presidents."

1998:  Secretary of State Madeline K. Albright said she was particularly upset that "somehow the rules that have existed for many years about criticizing the president when he's abroad seem to have been broken...I found that very unseemly and unbecoming to members of Congress," Albright said.

1998:  Sen. Robert G. Torricelli (D-N.J.) said lawmakers who raise doubt about Clinton's motivation are inviting further defiance by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. He called their remarks "as close to a betrayal of the interests of the United States as I've ever witnessed in the United States Congress. It's unforgivable and reprehensible."

1999:  "To conduct a divisive debate in Congress and perhaps fail to support our government's efforts is the height of irresponsibility," charged House Democratic leader Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri. "It seems that politics has infected foreign policy -- with great harm to our credibility overseas."

130 I guess it's time to study up on Woodrow Wilson's exercise of presidential war powers.

131 Did you read where I said I consider Obama pretty much a failure

Yeah, but I'd guess your reason for saying this is because you probably think he didn't succeed in forcing his hard-left agenda through, so you get no points from us.

132 Did you read where I said I consider Obama pretty much a failure, or just conveniently skip that part?

Because he hasn't been Howard Zinn, Stalin, and Secular Black Santa Claus combined, and put all us evil haters into camps while taking back the People's Wealth for edification of the proletariat workers.

Sorry, your 'Obama Fail' is a fail.

133 Brennan's Op-Ed: An AOSHQ Response
Brennan's Op-Ed: Hillary's Response

134

"Because he hasn't been Howard Zinn, Stalin, and Secular Black Santa Claus combined, and put all us evil haters into camps while taking back the People's Wealth for edification of the proletariat workers."

No. But my paranoia meter is off the scale.

135 If Karl Rove had the ability to "distract" me from how poor I was, I would be grateful.

136 Congrats Slublog on a brilliant one-upmanship of the president's speeches. Saying 'let me be clear' and then actually being clear? Blasphemy.

Of course, politically motivated criticism + schooling of teh one = enemy of the state = immediate imprisonment; do not pass Gitmo, do not collect $200 in stimulus money. But it sounds like they'll let you lawyer up now, so that's good news at least. Hopefully you can tweet all your lovely conversations with the panty bomber from the comfort of your cell!

137 After many hours of shoveling all that damn Toxic Global Warming Fallout I come in and see that the AoS crew has been productively knocking the props out from under these Leftist twits.  Bravo!!

138

"Yet this is exactly what AoS did in the immediate aftermath of the recruiting station shooting, the Fort Hood massacre and the Christmas Day bombing."

Is it just the AoS posters or do the commenters get promotions too?  Elected officials?  Political appointees?  Bureaucrat?  I'll take the compensation raise.

139

Is dissent still patriotic?

According to the Left, only if you're one of their members.

140

Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda.

This is coming from a regime that makes a habit out of politicizing legitimate concern over their ate-up approach to Islamic terrorism.

Terrorists are not 100-feet tall. Nor do they deserve the abject fear they seek to instill.

The average Hadji that straps a bomb to their ass and blows up people for allah, doesn't have to be 100 feet tall.

They will, however, be dismantled and destroyed, by our military, our intelligence services and our law enforcement community.

As long as you get the fuck out of the way and let them do their job....and maybe BRIEF them about your decisions once in a fucking while.

And the notion that America's counterterrorism professionals and America's system of justice are unable to handle these murderous miscreants is absurd.

It would be nice to handle them with brass knuckles instead of kid gloves, you assclown.

141

Terrorists are not 100-feet tall. Nor do they deserve the abject fear they seek to instill.

I'm fucking tired of hearing what liberals think conservatives fear.

142

Guess the liberals are finally realizing how tired we are of hearing the same old tired, meaningless, over-used, undefined, all-occasion catch-all word "racism" being used by those who don't have anything else to say -  so they changed it to terrorism.  New word - same old garbage.   Sorry - that isn't going to fly, either.

143
Terrorists are not 100-feet tall.

Neither is Obama but his fucking incompetency scares the shit out of me.

144 Bash Obama and the terrorists have won!

145

Spongeworthy ast 74 -- They're not attacks, really--they're thwarted attacks. That distinction is everything and we should all act like it. That is, to laugh at AQ and their exploding Hanes. 

They were not thwarted attacks - they were attacks that failed.  Our security system allowed Reid and Abdulmutallab onto the airplanes with their weapons.  There was only luck between the passengers and death.  This is a reason to laugh at AQ - but it is also a reason to look hard at our security and make improvements.  I don't want to trust to luck on my next overseas flight.   I'd rather have good security. 

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¡¤ Consider the mobile phone and the plan

When buying a cell phone there is the phone and also the service plan from the china wholesaler that services the phone. You will need to decide if you want to pay the standard two year monthly fees or if you want a prepaid phone.

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Try to get an idea of the type of phone or phone features that the gift recipient will want. If you are buying for a teenager you may want to get a gift certificate and coordinate the service provider with the parents family plan. Look into the quality of the HiPhone camera if that is a priority for the recipient, also look at the ability to buy cell phone applications, work as a cell phone MP3 player or a mobile web browser. And other cell phone accessories such as bluetooth hands free ear piece or for the car if the individual travels a lot.

¡¤Do not activate the Wifi Cell Phone unless you are adding another family member to your current plan

It would be great if it worked out of the box, but you will want to transfer the mobile number from the TV Function Cell Phone to the new phone and to do this you need to make sure the recipient is ready to deactivate their old phone and understands all penalty

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If the phone is for a family member and you will be activating a new number you can have a lot of fun with how you give the gift. Many Multi Function Cell Phones have customized ring tones that you can set to "call" to the recipient with a customized ring tone! Set the phone to the loudest ring with the new customized ring tone, wrap the gift and then hide the gift. During the birthday party or when the Blackberry Phone is under the Christmas tree dial the phone and let the ring tone call out, "Jamie! Come find me! I am your new cell phone! I'm waiting Jamie, hurry up!"

Make sure the phone is fully charged when you wrap it!

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When you decide which Dual SIM Card Cell Phone to buy, look online for the best mobile phone deal by finding sales, look for print ads for mobile phone sales, look for china wholesale rebates. Allow some time to watch the prices on the phone to get the best deal.

Go online to look at cell phone reviews, also look at Camera Cell Phone ratings to make sure the product has received good reviews. Look both at the manufacturers website and for reviews written by people who have bought the phone and posted reviews at online retailers like Amazon.com .

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¡¤ Step 1 You experience trouble when shutting off your HiPhone. It seems to just sit there when you try to power down.
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Your Dual SIM Card Cell Phone continues to stay lit up for several seconds to a minute after you've shut it off.
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You notice that your Camera Cell Phone will light up when you're not using it to make a call, or when no one is calling you, or when you're not using any of the phone's apps. Spyware has to "call" your Multi Function Cell Phones to get information.
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You hear strange background noises or clicks when you're on a call.
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You notice an increase in GPRS activity. This indicates spyware is tracking your location.
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You notice the icon that shows the internet connection activates several times a day for no reason. Again, spyware is gathering information.
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Your phone bill lists many more text messages than you remember sending.
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Your partner or someone else close to you has borrowed your TV Function Cell Phone to install a software program they say you'll like, or a wallpaper, or a ringtone.
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You let a stranger borrow your Wifi Cell Phone to make an "emergency" call. The number they called most likely installed spyware on your phone. This is commonly used to set up a program to send large numbers of text messages to your Blackberry Phone for which you are charged.

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The days of having limited options when purchasing a cell phone are long gone. Cell Phones come in a dizzying variety of sizes and styles today. Your choice of cell phone and calling plan can literally cost (or save) you hundreds of dollars a year. You owe it to yourself to comparison shop for the best deals when buying a cell phone online.

 

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Most important when selecting a cell phone is what type of service you will require. Are you an "emergency" user who simply wants Multi Function Cell Phones for safety while traveling or are you a "power user" who eats up many hours of talk time a day on your Multi Function Cell Phone? The type of phone you will want to purchase will be largely dependent on which service you will be signing up for.
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If you are an emergency user, or someone who uses their phone very sparingly, you may want to look into one of the Wifi Cell Phone services. These services from companies like Camera Cell Phone and STi Mobile allow you to pay as you go with no monthly contracts. You only pay for the minutes you actually talk on the phone. These plans tend to become very expensive for heavy users though.
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Once you have decided which type of calling plan you will use, look to some larger Web sites to see which HiPhone those carriers use. A good place to get an overview is eBay and Amazon. These sites have powerful search features, which let you enter plan names or manufacturer names and return models that match. Note the various features available, such as walkie-talkie functions or text messaging. Some Dual SIM Card Cell Phone will even allow you to surf the Internet...for a fee.
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Make a note of manufacturers and model numbers for TV Function Cell Phone that have the features you want in your phone and the price ranges that they sell for. Once you have these in hand you can hit the general search engines, such as Yahoo and Google. These will let you see a wide variety of vendors who carry these models. Most likely these stores may be more specialized to Camera Cell Phone and other models may appear in your searches that better fit your needs. Make notes of these vendors and prices.
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Take stock of your lists now and narrow your selections down to three or four models that look most promising.
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Do search engine searches again on those model numbers. This will usually reveal to you the following information:
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-User reviews from people who have already purchased this model. Are they happy with it?
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Take special note of users from YOUR GEOGRAPHIC AREA, as one of the biggest factors in how happy you will be with your Touch Screen Cell Phone is how good the reception or coverage is in your area.
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Next go to a few sites such as reseller ratings or epinions and make certain the vendors you are selecting generally get good reviews.
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Ask yourself. Do you want your cell phone for emergency use? Will you be using your HiPhone around town? Travel a lot? Planning a coast-to-coast?
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SIM CARDS-the key to mobile communications
Two SIM cards in a Dual SIM Card Cell Phone contains integrated chips that extend its intelligence and capabilities by leaps and bounds. Apart from being able to store your entire phone directory, this smart card provides access to a whole range of applications such as short message service, mobile banking, and even the mobile Internet. Your phone becomes personalised and user-friendly.
The big advantage from a user's point of view is the great flexibility of SIM cards. When traveling, you don't need to carry your Camera Cell Phone with two cards, just take the cards. Rent a phone from the airport once you arrive, slip the card in the phone and you are again connected to the world, with the same phone number.
Each card has an authentication code, a password or a PIN, specific to your service provider, which ensures that only you are using the card. GSM's encryption technology is fairly advanced and is considered to be one of the most secure technologies in mobile communications.

Caller Line Identification Restriction (CLIR):
This feature enables you to restrict your cellular number from being displayed on the receiver's Multi Function Cell Phones. It helps you maintain complete confidentiality of your number. The service can be obtained at an additional cost of about Rs.75/- per month in Mumbai.
Call Waiting / Call Hold:
This feature allows you to receive another call when you are already answering or making a call. You get a beep indicating an incoming call. Using the 'SEND' button you can receive the call by placing the first caller on hold. You can switch between these two calls using the same button. You will be charged airtime for both the calls. The service can be obtained at an additional cost of about Rs.75/- per month in Mumbai.
Call Barring:
This feature allows you to bar incoming and outgoing calls using a four-digit password selected by you. This is a security measure to prevent the possible misuse of your Touch Screen Cell Phone. This feature will work only if the Call Divert feature is de-activated. You can selectively bar all incoming calls or all outgoing calls as well as outgoing ISD calls. You cannot selectively bar outgoing STD calls. The service can be obtained at an additional cost of about Rs.75/- per month in Mumbai.
Short Messaging Services (SMS):
The Short Messaging Service allows you to keep in touch with your colleagues, associates, clients who are customers & currently are outside the coverage area at the time of your calling them. Standard messages created by you can be stored in your handset and sent as required. Just pay a Re. 1 for local sms, Rs. 2 for National sms and Rs. 5 for International sms in Mumbai under a post paid plan.
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A detailed statement of your calls from your Blackberry Phone, the call duration and the applicable charges can be sought. This is the most comprehensive billing statement for a person who values both time and money. The service can be obtained at an additional cost of about Rs.75/- per month in Mumbai.
WAP:
The latest innovation in Wifi Cell Phone, it enables the user to browse the Internet on his handset screens , however, handsets which are WAP unabled are required for using this service.

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CAR KIT

It is a kit provided with various accessories, which makes it easier to use your Blackberry Phone in the car. The car kit includes a plug-and-play handsfree solution (i.e. an ear phone which allows you to keep your hands free while talking), a cigarette lighter adapter (which allows the phone to be charged with the cigarette lighter outlet in the car), a car cradle in which the phone can be placed in the car. You should also follow strictly the traffic rules. In Pakistan, there is a fine of Rs. 100 if you are caught talking on your phone while driving. The car kit keeps your free for driving. Car kits cost around Rs.800 onwards. You also get chandsar kits for as low as Rs.500 and such, but they only the hands free the charger. Most of the shops in India do not keep contain flash light chandargers, cigarette lighter charger, etc.)

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It actually has one earphone to hear the person and a microphone a little below it, near your mouth, to help you speak into the phone. Doctors often advise that very frequent usage of the mobile phone (handset) to your ears could effect your health, however, this has not yet been proved. The headset is much like your ear phone. One end is connected to your Wifi Phone socket and the other end is plugged into your ear. Headsets are available for Rs. 250 onwards.

BELT CLIP

This is a clip in the form of a pouch in which the phone is kept and this helps in carrying the phone around your belt. This is mainly a convenience gadget for those who do not wish to carry the TV Function Cell Phone in their hand, pocket or bag. Keeping the mobile in the pocket could be quite uncomfortable and if kept in the top pocket, it could slip out if you bend down. Hence, you may opt for a belt clip. Frequent travelers, salespersons and doctors find these very useful. Some covers come with a detachable belt clip as well. These cost around Rs. 50. These molded plastic belt holsters are specifically designed for your individual phone. The belt holster holds your phone securely so you can be sure that you will always know where it is. You can be confident that you will always have your phone and that it will always be within reach. Make it part of your routine to clip your Camera Cell Phone to your belt with whenever you leave the house. With your phone securely attached to you, you'll never be afraid of losing it. Belt holsters are great for people who depend on their phone or are always on the go. When your Dual SIM Card Cell Pone is securely fastened to your hip with a belt holster, you will always know exactly where your phone is. No more digging around in your purse or pockets. And having it so close means that it will always be accessible. No more missed calls because you couldn't get to your phone. It's always easily within your reach.

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A gadget to hold the Multi Function Cell Phones when you are in the car. The cradle can sometimes be attached to the cigarette lighter in the car (which draws power from the car battery using a special cigarette lighter adapter) to charge the mobile phone battery while driving.

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Although the bans have largely been removed, the problems¡ªor distractions¡ªof cell phone technology have only increased.

Cell Phones now allow users to do so much more than just a few years ago. Students can use their Multi Function Cell Phones to editor and send text messages, take and send photos, and even take and send short digital video clips, in addition to making phone calls. Nearly all of the uses can become inappropriate and undesirable in middle and high school classrooms.

For this reason, while most schools have launched bans on carrying HiPhone, many desired students to keep them off during school hours, unless a real emergency happens. Unlucky, this rule is often broken and does not work, as students find that they can easily elude detection by using increasingly more Blackberry Phones.

Taking and distributing inappropriate digital photos of students.
Some schools are questioning whether the policy is truly serving to make the school a more secure environment, or whether they simply make it easier for inappropriate behaviors to go unnoticed.

Instituting Rules to Combat Cell Phone Misuse
If your school does not already have rules in place to regulate Touch Screen Cell Phone use, consider implementing the following in your classroom.
If found with a cell phone turned on during a test, students receive an automatic two grade deduction from the test scores. Remind everyone to turn their phones off prior to the test.

If found using Dual SIM Card Cell Phone during class, automatic deduction from their participation score. Make the deduction appropriately severe to be a deterrent.
Have students label their Cell Phones and place them in a basket at the beginning of class. Return them to students at the end of class.
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If, like some teachers, you want to try to exploit the Cell Phone as a teaching tool, consider its ever evolving range of functions.
Calculators. Although most schools have them in math class, other classes that don't have them on hand for students can benefit from number crunching. For example, social studies students studying elections can quickly determine percentages of electoral votes or other scenarios. Science classrooms can use them to perform calculations related to fieldwork.

Digital cameras. Not all schools or classrooms are outfitted with digital cameras, although many can benefit from them. For example, students can use Camera Cell Phone to document a variety of things for multimedia presentations or reports. Fieldtrips can be documented and incorporated into digital travelogues.
Internet access. Many Wifi Cell Phones have wireless Internet access, thus opening up a world of possibilities for class use. Science students might conduct fieldwork and submit their observations or data to either an internal or external data gathering site. Students can subscribe to indicate that you produce or offered by a multitude of other sources.

Dictionaries. Students in literature and language arts classes can benefit from being able to quickly query the definition of a word. Additionally, students who are English learners especially can benefit from translation dictionaries which are becoming available on TV Function Cell Phones.
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Many schools are refining their use policies to include a ban on camera and video phone use, at least for now. Because these hold the greatest potential for inappropriate use and abuse of access to lockers rooms, rest rooms, etc, the ban may actually stick.

 

Although many teachers will be able to avoid making policies regarding all kinds of cell phones use, they will not avoid having to cope with their persistent appearance in purses, desks, and backpacks. Teachers can help set the tone by explaining to students early in the year class and school policies regarding their use.

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Osmanlı Hükümeti Tarafından İlk Kurulan Matbaa Ve Bunun Neşriyatı

B. A. MYSTAKIDIS

Sadeleştirilmiş Metin: Mâlik Yılmaz

Adı geçen makale 1911 yılında İstanbul’da (Constantinople) Ahmet İhsan ve Şerikası Matbaacılık Osmanlı Şirketi tarafından Târih-i Osmâni Encümeni Mecmuasının ayrı basımı olarak yayımlanmıştır. Makalenin Fransızca adı ‘La Premiére Imprimerie Turque et ses Publications’tur.

Makalede, Osmanlı Hükümetinin desteği ve himayesiyle 1726 yılında İbrahim Müteferrika tarafından kurulmuş olan ilk Türk matbaası ve bu matbaada basılan eserler hakkında bilgiler verilmiştir. Makale, çoğunlukla yabancı kaynaklara dayanılarak hazırlanmıştır. Mystakidis makalesinde, başlangıçta Osmanlı Devleti’nde matbaa kurmanın zorluğundan bahsederek, İbrahim Mütferrika’nın mevcut çeşitli zorluklara ve engellemelere rağmen matbaasını nasıl kurduğunu, özellikle matbaasını kurarken gerekli olan aletleri ve harfleri nasıl elde ettiğini ve ne şekilde faaliyete geçirdiğini anlatmıştır. Bununla birlikte Müteferrika matbaasında basılan eserlere ilişkin bilgiler vermiştir.

Sultan III. Ahmed’in saltanatının son yıllarına doğru matbaa sanatını Türkiye’ye getiren “İbrahim Müteferrika” hakkında, Tarih-i Osmani Encümeni Mecmuası’nın üçüncü bölümünün 178 –185. sayfalarında nefis bir makale okudum. Topçu Urban’ı inceledikten sonra, Doktor Karaçun Efendi’nin ilme hizmet ettiğini gösteren bu makalede, Osmanlı Devleti’nde matbaacılık, ilk kurulan matbaa ve bu matbaanın kurulması için gerekli olan alet ve harflerin sağlanması, bununla birlikte basılan kitapların adedi, ayrıca Doktor Karaçun Efendi’nin makalesinde konu olan Türkçe ve Fransızca sarf (dilbilgisi-) kitabı için bibliyografik bilgilerle kitabın yazarı hakkında bazı özet bilgileri arz ediyorum.Bu makalenin yazarının asıl amacı, İbrahim Müteferrika’nın durumunu açıklamaktan ibarettir.

Bunun yanı sıra yazar, İbrahim Efendi gibi Macar olan Urban hakkında da iki üç satırdan çok olmamak üzere açıklayıcı bir iki söz söylemiştir. Örneğin, Urban’ın Türklere topu kalıba dökmeği mi veya topun imâl olunmasını mı yoksa top atmağı mı ya da topla nişan almasını mı gösterdiğini açıklamak gerekmektedir. Ayrıca, Bizans ve Türk tarihçilerinin eserlerinde konu ettikleri ve bundan kırk beş yıl önce müzemizin eski müdürü Mösyö Dötye’nin topçuluk tarihiyle ilgili olarak kaleme aldığı birkaç sayfalık makalede, o sırada en büyük top olan Rudman topunu imal etme başarısından dolayı kendileriyle gurur duyan Amerikalılara karşı, Hazreti Fatih’in, Rudman topuyla karşılaştırılmış olan o büyük ve meşhur âlem topunun da adını anmak gerekliydi.

Bundan başka, aynı dönemde yaşayan tarihçilerden bazısı Urban’ı Daçya (eski Romanya) halkından kabul etmektedirler. Urban, Macar olarak kabul olunduğu takdirde, çağdaşı olan bir üçüncü Macar daha vardır ki bu kişi de, geçmişteki hizmetleriyle birlikte anılmakta, ancak ismi verilmemektedir. Bu kişi, anlaşma gereği Hunyad tarafından Hazreti Fatih’in ordugâhına gönderilmiştir. Kaleyi yıkmak için kullanılan yöntemin eksikliklerini görerek topun ne şekilde kullanılacağını öğretmiş ve bu sayede kalenin bir an önce yıkılmasıyla İstanbul’un fethi gerçekleşmiştir.

Fatih Sultan Mehmed’in yazım işlerinde çalışan İmrozlu Kristodolos’un meslektaşım Karolidi Efendi tarafından çevirisi yapılarak mecmua ile yayımlanan tarihinde, Urban’ın ismi anılmıyorsa da, bu eserde topun imal edilişinden ayrıntılı olarak söz edildiğinden burası mecmuanın dördüncü bölümünde çevirisi yapılarak açıklanmıştır.Firmin Dido’nun matbaa hakkındaki görüşleri On beşinci yüzyılda İstanbul’da Museviler tarafından basılmış birkaç kitap yayımlanmıştı.

Fakat Sultan II. Bayezid tarafından çıkarılan ve oğlu Sultan I. Selim’in 1515’de yeniledikleri bir emir üzerine matbaa ilmi ile uğraşmak idam cezası ile yasaklanmıştır. Jojef bin Goriyo’nun “İbrani Tarihi” üzerine yazılmış eseri, İstanbul, 1490 tarihlidir. Diğer eserler ise 1492’den 1598 tarihine kadar olan zaman zarfında yayınlanmıştır. Bunların en önemlisi 1546’da çeşitli dillerde basımı yapılan Tevrat’ın Esfar-ı Hamse kısmıdır. On altıncı yüzyılda Patrik Kirilos Lokaris’in yardımı ile Kefalonyalı Rahip Nikodimus Mütakassas adlı kişi İstanbul’da yeniden bir matbaanın kurulmasına çalışmış ise de bu girişimi Cizvitler tarafından engellenmiştir. 1698’de Ermeniler tarafından Osmanlı Devleti’ne getirilen baskı malzemeleri Sultanın emri ile yeniçeriler tarafından tahrip edilmiştir.

İstanbul’da matbaanın kurulması ancak on sekizinci yüzyılda Osmanlı Hükümeti’nin desteği ve himayesi ile gerçekleşmiştir. Sultan III. Ahmed döneminde, İbrahim Efendi büyük ve sürekli çabalarla hemşehrilerinin ve özellikle de ulemanın o zamana kadar devam eden engellemelerine ve muhalefetlerine karşın 1139 (1726) yılında Layd’tan kalıp getirtmek ve burada harfleri döktürmek için adı geçen Padişahtan izin almıştır. Bu meşhur tarihçi aşağıdaki sözlerden fazla bir bilgi vermiyor. İbrahim Müteferrika tarafından Kurulan bu matbaada ilk basılan kitap Türkçe’den Arapça’ya bir sözlüktür. Bu sözlük, 1726’dan 1728 yılına kadar olan sürede yayınlanmıştır. 1729’da bir de Fransızca’dan Türkçe’ye bir dilbilgisi kitabı basılmıştır. 1744 yılında İbrahim Efendi’nin vefatından sonra bu matbaada bir süre basım işleri gerçekleşmemiştir ancak daha sonra matbaa tekrar faaliyete başlamıştır. 1816 yılında Üsküdar’da bulunan Matbaa-i Amire’ye gerçekleştirdiğim ziyaretim sırasında matbaada muntazam dört makine bulunuyordu. § 1746’da vefat eden ve Paris Kraliyet Kütüphanesi’nde kütüphaneci ve Kollej dö Frans öğretmenlerinden olan Rahip Mihail Furmon‘un Mösyö Mörpü’ye hitaben Sakız’dan göndermiş olduğu 26 Mart 1729 tarihli mektubunda, matbaayı ziyaretinden ve matbaanın pek ağır ve zorluklarla faaliyetine devam ettiğinden, buna sebep olarak da kurucularının bu husustaki cehaleti ve Said Efendi’nin ilgisizliği olduğundan bahsetmektedir.

Ayrıca ziyareti sırasında matbaanın baş mürettip ve hakkakinin ancak Türkçe’yi konuşabilen zavallı bir Bolonyalı Musevi olduğunu ve matbaanın sorumlusunun da Macar ruhbanından iken müslüman olan İbrahim Efendi olduğunu, Said Efendi’nin desteği ve aracılığıyla Enderun-i Hümayun Kütüphaneleri’ni ziyaret etme ümidinde iken, Said Efendi’nin alakadar olmadığını görmesi üzerine fikrinin değiştiğini söylemektedir. § Karaçun Efendi tarafından gerek matbaa ve gerekse de İbrahim Müteferrika hakkında ayrıntılı bilgi verilmiştir.

Ayrıca, hakkâklar, hurufat dökmecileri ve matbaacıların Viyana’dan getirtildiği yazılmış ise de bu konuda Lorek, “Said Efendi gerekli yazıları hazırlamış olup hurufatı İstanbul’da bizzat kestirip döktürmüştür” demektedir. Toderini de, araştırmacıların Türkçe yazılmış tarihlerde bu konuda bir şeye rastlayamayacakları gibi, dikkatli bir şekilde incelemiş olduğum Yirmisekiz Çelebi Mehmed Efendi’nin sefaretnamesinde de rastlayamadım diyor. Gerçekten, Tarih-i Raşid’in eki olan Küçükçelebizade Asım Efendi’nin Tarihinde de, matbaa malzemelerinin gelişi hakkında bilgi yoktur. Saint Simon’un “Hatırat” adlı eserinde, Yirmisekiz Çelebi Mehmed Efendi’nin elçi olarak Paris’te bulunduğu zamanki durumuna dair şu ifadelere rastlanılmaktadır: Osmanlı Devleti’nin Paris Elçisi Mehmed Efendi matbaanın bütün aletlerini, makinelerini, kazınmış yazılarını ve matbaa binasının kabartma planlarını görmüştür.

Paris’te bulunduğu sırada Kraliyet Kütüphanesi’ni de ziyaret etmiştir. Bu ziyareti esnasında kütüphanenin tarih ve nefis kitaplar hakkında geniş bilgisi olduğunu göstermiştir. Mehmet Efendi Sadrazam’ın arkadaşı olduğu için İstanbul’a dönüşünde bir matbaa ile bir de kütüphane kurmaya karar vermiş ve gördüğü muhalefete rağmen başarılı da olmuştur. Meninski “matbaa malzemelerinin Paris’ten getirtildiğini, Firmin Dido ise Layd’tan getirtilmiş olduğunu” söylemektedir.

Karaçun Efendi’nin yazmış oldukları makalede söz konusu olan “Türkçe Fransızca Sarf” (Dilbilgisi) kitabının basımı için gerekli olan Fransızca harflerin elde edilmesine gelince, Saint Simon’un 1829 yılında basılmış olan “Hatırat” adlı eserinin on sekizinci cildinin 382-383. sayfalarında şu ifadelere rastlanılmaktadır: “Holderman’ın ‘Sarf-ı Türkisi’ni bastırmak için gerekli olan Fransızca harflerin Paris’ten gönderildiği, Saray Kral Nâzırı Mösyö Mörpü tarafından, o zaman Fransa’nın İstanbul Elçiliği görevinde bulunan Mösyö Vilnov’a yazılmış olan 28 Haziran 1730 tarihli mektubun içeriğinden anlaşılmaktadır. Adı geçen mektupta, İbrahim Efendi’nin Sarf-ı Türki ve Lügat kitabını bastırmak için talep ettiği Fransızca harflerin verilmesini Kraldan rica edeceğim, kitapların basımında kullanılacak Türkçe harflerden bana numune gönderiniz deniliyor”.

Numune talebinin amacı ise, gönderilecek Fransızca harfler ile burada bulunan Türkçe harflerin bir ayarda olmasını sağlamak, düzene koymak ve basım işini kolaylaştırmaktır. Matbaanın kurulmasından sonra basılan kitapların adedi konusuna gelince : 1867 yılındaki orada Paris Osmanlı Devleti’nin Elçisi olan Cemil Paşa’nın başkanlığında toplanan Osmanlı Fen Komisyonunun düzenlemiş olduğu raporlardan biri olan Sanayi-i Nefise ve Şubeleri hakkındaki dördüncü raporun, Paris’te basılan nüshasının altmış ikinci sayfasında, gerek matbaanın nasıl kurulduğuna ve gerekse de harflerin nereden ve nasıl sağlandığına dair herhangi bir şey söylenilmemiştir. Bununla birlikte, raporda ilk matbaanın kurulmasıyla basımı gerçekleşmiş olan kitapların adedi yirmi beş olarak gösterilmiş ise de, D’ohsson Tarihinin 1788’de basılan sekiz ciltlik eserinin, ikinci cildinin beş yüz birinci sayfasında basımı yapılan kitapların adedi on beş olarak gösterilmiştir.

Zonkiyer’in (Jonquiere)“Tarih-i Devlet-i Aliyye” adlı eserinin 1881’de Paris’te basılan nüshasının 356. sayfasında, matbaada basılan eserlerin sayısı on beş olarak kayıtlıdır. Bu kayıt, tarihçinin, söz konusu kayda ilişkin bilgiyi yalnızca D’ohsson Tarihine başvurarak edindiği düşüncesini doğurmaktadır. Hammer Tarihinin on dördüncü cildinin 179. sayfasında matbaada basılan eserler yedi adet olarak gösterildiği halde, adı geçen cildin sonunda bulunan açıklama kısmında ise, toplam on yedi olarak kayıt edilmiştir.

Söz konusu kayıt bu cildin 496. sayfasındadır. Matbaa hakkında İstanbul’dan, 3 Teşrin-i sâni (Kasım) 1740 tarihinde yazılan ve 14 Kânun-i sâni (Ocak) 1741 tarihli “Gazet dö Frans “ nüshasında yer alan bir mektupta, Fünun-i Askeriyye’ye (Askerlik Bilgileri) ait birçok eser Türkçe’ye çevrilerek matbaada basılmıştır. Bir yıl boyunca basılan kitapların adlarını içeren bir cetvelin yayımlanmasının yöntem haline getirilmesi nedeniyle o yılın sonunda yayımlanan bu cetvele göre matbaanın kuruluşundan şimdiye kadar 280 cilt kitabın basımı gerçekleşmiştir” denilmektedir. Türkçe ve Fransızca olarak basımı yapılan sarf (dilbilgisi) kitabı hakkında: Meninski, büyük lügatının 1780’de Viyana’da basılan nüshasının birinci cildinin önsözünde, İbrahim Müteferrika ve matbaadan söz ederken bu “sarf” hakkında aşağıdaki kısacık sözleri söylüyor. “Rahip Holderman’ın telif etmiş olduğu Türkçe ve Fransızca sarf kitabı, bu matbaanın 1730 tarihinde basmış olduğu eserlerdendir”. Toderini Tarihinde bu konuda geniş bilgi vermektedir. Ayrıca bu eserin, o zaman İstanbul’da bulunan Fransızların zorlaması ve baskısıyla matbaada basıldığını belirterek, Fransızların dil gereksinmelerini kolaylaştırmak için kitabın sonuna bir de mükaleme kısmı ilave edilmiş olduğunu ifade etmiştir. Bununla birlikte eserin nüshalarının çok az bulunmasından dolayı büyük zorluklarla bir nüshasını elde ettiğini söylemektedir. 1747’de Paris Kraliyet Kütüphanesi Türkçe ve Farsça mütercimlerden olan Arman (Armain) adlı kişi İstanbul’a gelerek o zaman Fransa’nın İstanbul Elçisi olarak bulunan Kont Dozayir (comte des Alleurs) ile birlikte matbaayı ziyaretten sonra, Paris’e göndermiş olduğu 20 Eylül 1747 tarihli raporunda yer alan ve kitapların fiyatını kapsayan cetvelde, matbaada basılan kitapların adedi on altı olarak gösterilmiş ve bu sarf kitabından söz edilmemiştir. İbrahim Müteferrika hakkında ise, bu raporun yazıldığı tarihten altı ay önce vefat etmiştir demektedir.

Bundan dolayı D’ohsson, Tarihinin ikinci cildinin 480-510. sayfasına kadar matbaa hakkında açıklama yapmış ve ilk basılan kitapların cetvelini dahi kayıt etmiş olduğu halde bu sarf için tek bir söz bile söylememiştir. Bu yüzden Zonkiyer’in (Jonquiere), Tarihine almış olduğu cetvelde de bu kitabın adına rastlanılmamaktadır. Yalnız Hammer, Tarihinin on dördüncü cildinin sonuna –bu cildin içindekiler hakkında gerekli olan kapsamlı açıklama- ilave etmiş olduğu bölümde yer alan, matbaada basılan eserlerin adlarını içeren cetvelde sekizinci olarak bu sarfı göstermektedir. Dido, yukarıda adı geçen eserinin yedi yüz altıncı sayfasında bu eserden söz etmiş ise de basım tarihi olan 1730 yılını 1729 olarak göstermiştir.

Paris’te basımı gerçekleşen Kütüphaneler Mecmuası’nın 1895 yılına ait olan beşinci cildinin 185-200 ve 228-236. sayfalarında aşağıdaki açıklamalara rastlanılmaktadır; Jojoyet Rahiplerinden Strazburg’lu Holderman tarafından 1730 yılında İstanbul’da Said Ağa’nın matbaasında çocuklara mahsus Türkçe-Fransızca bir sarf basılmıştır. Yukarıda adı geçen rahip bir de Ermenice sarfın basımını yapmak arzusunda bulunmuş ise de 13 Teşrin-i evvel (Ekim) 1730 yılında vefat etmesinden ötürü buna muvaffak olamamıştır.

Basılan Fransızca sarfın birçok nüshası Fransa’ya gönderilmiş ve Kraliyet Kütüphanesi Müdürü Rahip Binyon’a (Bignon) verilerek 1731-1732 yıllarında Mösyö Mörpa’nın emriyle Paris’te bulunan Jojoyet Mektebi öğrencilerine dağıtılmıştır. Kitabın Avrupa Kütüphanelerindeki varlığına gelince: Gerek eğitim görmüş olduğum Tubingen Darülfünun Kütüphanesi ile daha sonra devam ettiğim Stutgard’ın büyük kütüphanesinde, bundan yirmi sene önce bu esere rastladım. Bugün bu kitabın adı geçen kütüphanelerde mevcut bulunduğuna bakılarak kitabın Avrupada ki varlığını Lozan (Lausane) Akademisi Kütüphanesi ile sınırlandırmak doğru değildir. Ayrıca adı geçen kitabın, Müze-i Hümayun Kütüphanesi için 1908 senesi Teşrin-i evvelinde (Ekim) bir liraya satın alınan ve 4845 umumi numaralı nüshasının birinci sayfasında mevcut bulunan eski bir mühürden, bunun Peşte civarında bulunan “Giz Kartalı” karyesindeki kütüphanede bulunan ikinci nüsha olduğu anlaşılmaktadır.Matbaanın yabancı dillerden ilk basmış olduğu bu sarf kitabı 218 sayfadan ibaret olup, ilk on altı ve son sekiz sayfası numarasızdır. İlk sayfasında kitabın adı ve Macar Kütüphanesi’nin mührü ve geri kalan ilk on beş sayfasında da yazar tarafından Kardinal Flori’ye ithafen yazılan imzasız bir mektup yer almaktadır. Bunun devamında kitabın telifi ve baskısı sırasında hata edilmemesi için çaba harcanmışsa da buna muvaffak olunamadığından kitapta gerekli düzeltmeleri içeren bir önsöz ve Türkçe’ye dair bir giriş vardır. Bundan sonra başlayan numaralı sayfalarda sarf (dilbilgisi) kurallarından söz edilmiştir. Kitapta 127. sayfadan 144. sayfaya kadar, gerekli olan Türkçe cümlelere, 144. sayfadan kitabın sonuna kadar yirmi bölüme ayrılmış olan mükâlemeler eklenmiştir. Gerek cümleler gerekse mükâlemeler üç sütun üzerine dizilmiş olup birincide Türkçe cümleler Fransızca harfler ile ikincide, Türkçe harfler ile yazılmış, üçüncüde ise Fransızca karşılığı gösterilmiştir. Kitabın ilk sayfasının içeriği bir ve iki numaralı fotoğraflarla gösterilmiştir.

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(1) Bu isim Orbin, Orban, Urban olmak üzere yazarlar arasında ihtilaf konusu olup Kamusul-Alâm’da bu kişi hakkında hiçbir bilgi yoktur.

(2) Hoca efendi (Sadeddin Efendi) “Tâcü’t-Tevârîh”.

(3) “Courrier des Etats-Unis” du 29 Octobre 1861 “le plus gros canon du monde”. (“Birleşmiş Milletler kuryesi” 29 Ekim 1861’de “dünyanın en büyük topu olarak ifade etmiştir”.

(4) Matériaux pour l’histoire de l’artillerie én général et de l’ottomane en particulier (topçu sınıfı tarihinde özellikle Osmanlıda) 1865 tarihinde İstanbul’da basılmıştır. On altı sayfadan ibarettir.

(5) Chalcocondylis, édit. Bonn. p. 385-386, Ducas, p.271-272, Frantzis, p. 237-239.

(6) Hammer-Hellert, II, p. 398-399. “Ainsi c’était un Hongrois qui avait fondu le canon, et ce fut un Hongrois qui apprit aux turcs a s’en servir utilement;”Ducas, qui, comme Kritoboulos, ne donne pas son nom, (Böylece topcu sınıfını kuran bir Macar’dı ve Türklere bunu, faydalı bir şekilde kullanmayı öğretti. Ducas, Kritoboulos gibi ismini vermedi) diyor ki: ?????? ?ß?????? ?x ????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ß?????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???x ???? ??? ??? ???x?? ??x??? ??? ß????, ????? ?... ? ??µß???? ? ??? ?? ?????? . Aynı mahale bir taş mermi daha atmak istediğinden bunu...orada hazır bulunan Hunyad’ın adamı ‘adem-i tasvîb ile... nasihat eyledi.. bu nasihat ustanın makbulüne geçti. Zürkeisen, Geschichte D. Osman : Reiches vol. II, p. 831. Jorga, Geschichte D. Osmanischen : Reiches, vol. II, p. 18-20.

(7) Ansiklopedi Modern’in yirmi altıncı cildinden alıntı. “Firmin Didot” Essai sur la Typographie, Paris, 1855 (Extr: du tome XXVI, de l’Encyclopédie moderne, “Turquie p.706.”.

( Tarihçinin bu ifadeleri hakkında yapılacak birçok açıklama var ise de yalnız bununla yetinilmiştir. İlk basılan lügat kitabı Arapça’dan Türkçe’yedir ki Sıhah-ı Cevheri çevirisi olan “Vankulu”dur. Toderini’nin “Edebiyât-ı Türkiye” adlı eserinin ikinci cildinin 176. sayfası ile devam eden sayfalarına ve Lorek’in “Târih-i Tıbâ’at” adlı eserinin birinci cildinin 280 ve 281. sayfalarına bakınız.

(9) “Omont”, Missions Archéologiques françaises en Orient, p. 543. Paris 1902, in 4º.

(10) Lorek, sayfa 281. “Lorek” Handb: d: Geschichte d. Buchdrukerkunst Theil I, Leipsig, 1882.

(11) Cilt 2, sayfa 172. “Toderini” Litteratur d: Türken, Koenigsberg, 1790.

(12) Küçük Çelebi-zâde Tarihinin Matba’a-i ‘Âmîre’de basılan nüshası sayfa 470-471.

(13) Hâtırât, cilt 18, sayfa 382-83. Mémoires de Saint-Simon, edit : de 1829.

(14) Viyana, 1780 baskısının önsözünün 87. sayfası. Meninski, Lexicon Arabico-Persico—Turcicum Viennae 1780. fol : p: 87.

(15) Fenn-i Tıbâ’at hakkında bilgiler sayfa 77.

(16) Fransız bilim adamlarından “Mösyö Omon”un “Kütüphaneler Mecmuası’nın 1895 yılına ait olan nüshası sayfa 228-236.

(17) Vol: I, p. :LXXXVII “ex cadem typographia prodiit anno Cristi 1730 Gallicoturcica grammatica Aldermannii extinctae S. I. sacerdote”.

(1 Sarfın yazarı olup eserinde adı yazılı olmayan “Holderman” kitabını “Kardinal dö Filori” ye ithafen kitabın başına yazmış olduğu ithafname ve önsözde baskı esnasında birçok zorlukla karşılaştığını beyan ediyor.

(19) Aynı kitabın 224. sayfasında tarihçinin zamanında Galata’da bulunan Jojoyet Mektebi’nde satılmayan iki yüz nüsha mevcut olup sonra Avrupa’ya dağılmış olduğundan yine kendisi söz ediyor.

(20) Mösyö Omon’un 1902’de Paris’te dört cilt olarak basılan Missions Archéologiques Françaises en Orient adlı eserinin 751-753. sayfaları.

(21) Bu Said Ağa “Yirmisekiz Çelebi Mehmed Efendi” nin oğlu olan “Mehmed Said Efendi”dir ki 1154’de Rumeli pâyesiyle Paris Elçisi olmuştur. Sicill-i Osmani, cilt 3, sayfa 29-30. Fransız doğu bilimcilerinden Mösyö Şefer tarafından Paris’te 1894’de basılan, 1716-1724 yıllarında Fransa’nın Osmanlı Devleti Elçisi olarak bulunan Marki dö Bonnak (marquis de Bonnac)’ ın “Hatırât” adlı eserinin önsözünün 43-45. sayfalarında İbrahim Müteferrika’ya matbaanın kurulmasında yardımcı olan bu kişi hakkında birçok bilgi mevcut ise de maalesef bu eseri şimdiye kadar elde edemedim.

(22) Kitabın kütüphanede bulunduğu yer, bi, XIII, 8 in 4º. (23) Orientalische Philologie in 4º.

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