RINOs Are F'n' Awesome: Rasmussen Puts Kirk Up by Six Over Mob's Juicebox Guy; Has +37 Lead With Indpendents

Hey, he was the most conservative likely candidate the citizens of Illinois would elect.

The system worked.

Republican Mark Kirk holds a modest 46% to 40% lead over Democrat Alexi Giannoulias in the race for the Illinois Senate following Tuesdays party primaries.

The first post-primary Rasmussen Reports Election 2010 telephone survey of the Kirk-Giannoulias race finds just four percent (4%) of likely voters in the state prefer some other candidate, while another 10% are undecided.

Among voters not affiliated with either of the major parties, the Republican holds a sizable 59% to 22% lead.

In December, Giannoulias was up by three points over Kirk. In October, the two men were tied at 41% each. In mid-August, Kirk held a modest 41% to 38% lead over Giannoulias.

It is possible that a bigger push for a conservative candidate by the rightroots/Tea Partiers could have gotten someone more conservative the nod.

The trouble was no one really knew that a victory in Illinois, in The Obama Seat, was even possible. All of this has snuck up on us. Well, I think I can say "us." I don't think too many people were expecting the Brown win, or... this.

Mark Kirk actually ran. Can't get too angry at him for being the only major Republican candidate to show up for the party.

I Expect Keith Olberman's Special Comment to be Ferocious: The Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor once kinda-sorta held a knife to his girlfriend's neck.

Scott Lee Cohen -- a pawnbroker who shocked state Democratic leaders Tuesday night by winning the party's nomination for lieutenant governor -- was arrested about four-and-a-half years ago and accused of holding a knife to a former live-in girlfriend's neck, newly obtained court records show.

The misdemeanor charge against Cohen was dropped weeks later when the woman -- who had just been found guilty of prostitution -- failed to show up to testify, according to those records.

This isn't the only piece of information Republicans might try to use against the Democratic gubernatorial ticket, the other half of which was being sorted out as Gov. Quinn and Dan Hynes ran neck-and-neck with ballots still to be counted.

Cohen's Oct. 14, 2005, arrest came five months after his wife filed for divorce and convinced a judge to give her a temporary order of protection, records show. A status hearing in the divorce case took place Wednesday, hours after Cohen's election-night triumph.

Cohen -- who records show also had federal tax troubles that he says he has settled -- denied in a written statement that he ever hurt the ex-girlfriend or his family. Cohen disclosed his domestic violence arrest when he announced his candidacy, but the details about the knife and prostitution case didn't surface in the campaign, as Cohen was considered a longshot.

It's a one-time gift by Democrats that they've nominated these guys with absolutely no regard to how they would fare in the general. They assumed that, as usual, the general would be a cakewalk, and so they could nominate whatever corrupt/crazy/socialist idiot they liked in the primary.

Conservatives have been having a heated argument about just this -- how far can we go? It seems the Democratic Party hasn't had this argument at all in blue states.

They're going to pay for that.

Alas, they will not be this stupid for too much longer.

Backgrounder on Alexi "Juicebox" Giannoulias: A few weeks old, but still true.

After graduating in 1998, Alexi played pro ball for a year in Greece, then enrolled in law school at Tulane. His JD in hand, he returned to Chicago and took a job as a loan officer at Broadway Bank. Within two years he'd been named senior loan officer and a bank vice president.

It's not clear what responsibilities came with these titles. He's said that as VP he oversaw all of Broadway's lendingbut he's also said he was really just the guy who serviced the bank's loansoverseeing things like billing and payment collection while more senior officers, including his older brother Demetris, negotiated the deals and made the final decisions. When I pressed him to specify his job descriptions at each stage of his employment at the bank, he laughed.

"You have to understand that it was the family businessI did everything there," he said. "Sometimes I was a teller and sometimes I serviced loanswhatever we needed."

...

Broadway was one of hundreds of banks around the country that profited greatly from that boom and kept it going with aggressive lending policies. From 2002 through 2006 its assets more than doubled, from $434 million to $946 million, and Crain's Chicago Business ranked it the most profitable bank in Illinois (by figuring its income as a percentage of its assets) for four years running.

Notice after the fact Bush is credited with a "boom." It was never described as such at the time, when it might politically benefit him.

"People think there's some kind of magic to it," Alexi told Crain's in 2004. In fact, he said, it was simply the result of hard work and his father's deep roots in the community. "He knows what deals are solid or not solid, what areas are hot or not hot."

But there was at least one additional factor: risk tolerance. Broadway's growth and profits were fueled largely by its rapidly expanding business in issuing loans for new real estate development. Traditionally lending for construction and development (known in the industry as C & D) has been seen as a bigger gamble than lending for, say, existing homes or small businesses, since a relatively high number of plans for new hotels, condos, housing developments, office complexes, and the like end up flopping. In the early to mid-2000s, though, as the soaring real estate markets drove the national economy, many lenders downplayed the risk and dived in.

At the end of 2002, Alexi's first year as a full-time employee, the bank had nearly $80 million in outstanding C & D loansabout 25 percent of its total loan portfolio, according to records filed with the FDIC. By the end of 2006, not long after he'd left the bank, it had $356 million in C & D loans accounting for nearly 46 percent of its loan total. During those years, it was consistently among the 20 banks, out of hundreds its size, with the biggest share of their portfolios tied up in such loans.

Moreover, rather than relying primarily on depositors from the community for its lending money, the bank relied heavily on brokered deposits, or "hot money"pots of money collected by brokers from investors around the country. Over the last decade scores of banks have used brokered deposits to quickly bolster their cash suppliesbut at a cost. These deposits command higher interest rates; furthermore, the depositors are less likely to stick with the bank if they see they can do better somewhere else. "When properly managed, BDs offer institutions a number of important benefits such as ready access to funding," the FDIC notes on its Web site. "However, BDs can be a higher-cost and more volatile funding source and, as such, present potential liquidity, earnings, and other risks that must be properly managed."

In 2002, the ratio of brokered deposits to total assets at Broadway was 53 percent, according to FDIC records; four years later, it had risen to 68 percent. The average for all federally insured banks nationwide was 4.5 percent. According to an explanation of hot money on AOL's Daily Finance in July, "the 79 U.S. bank failures in the last two years had four times the brokered deposits of the average bank, and 33 percent of the failed banks had high brokered deposits and extremely fast growth."

In the early and middle part of the decade, when the economy was thriving...

First I've heard the economy was thriving under Bush.

...this just meant that Broadway had money to lend. Giannoulias says that it was able to aid countless small businesses and enable important development projects to get off the ground. "We've taken enormous pride in helping people," he says, naming a neighborhood health store and a nail salon. "We have people who've had checking accounts for 25 or 30 years."

But experts and community leaders say Broadway developed a reputation for giving out loans to just about anyone who walked in the door. Among the recipients of loans while Alexi worked full-time at the bank were: Michael Giorango, a Florida developer who's been convicted of running bookmaking and prostitution rings; Boris and Lev Stratievsky, a father-son team later convicted of laundering money for Ukrainian drug dealers; and Tony Rezko, the developer-businessman-political fixer who was eventually convicted of fraud and money laundering for his role in pay-to-play schemes during the administration of Governor Blagojevich. Giannoulias and current bank officials have said all of them were creditworthy when the loans were issued.

Another loan, for $1 million, was issued in 2002 to a woman whose family claims she was suffering from dementiaand that both Alexi, as the loan officer, and his brother Demetris, then the bank's CFO, knew it but gave her the loan anyway.

During his 2006 run for state treasurer -- once a fundraiser and campaigner for Obama; now Obama's protoge -- Giannoulias' mob connections surfaced.

Just days before the election, news outlets ran stories about Broadway Bank loans in the 1990s and early 2000s to Giorango, the Florida developer with ties to bookmaking and prostitutionstories prompted by a pre-primary mailer from the Madigan-led state Democratic Party declaring that Giannoulias was "friends" with mobsters. Giannoulias said privacy laws prohibited him from getting into details, but he noted that there was nothing illegal about the loans. "We lend money to people who we trust from a business standpoint," he said at a news conference. "We're a safe and sound financial institution and we run a good business." He added that these loans were irrelevant to his campaignhe'd been in law school when they were issued.

That was truebut Giannoulias himself had overseen a couple of loans to Giorango in 2005, and the Tribune soon dug up records of those. The paper reported that one of those loans had been used to take out a mortgage on a marina in South Carolina that was home to a casino boat. One of the companies with a stake in the boat had been led by a Greek immigrant named Konstantinos Boulis, who'd been murdered in an apparent hit in 2001. The company was then sold to investors that included Jack Abramoff, the Washington lobbyist convicted on federal corruption charges in June 2006, before being sold back to Boulis's nephew, Spiros Naoswho had donated $5,000 to Giannoulias's campaign in December 2005. But the campaign had returned the check in February, when the Daily Herald had written about Naos's connection to Abramoff.

Forced to concede that he'd met Giorango and checked out some of his properties in Florida, Giannoulias continued to downplay his involvement in the loans, saying he'd merely done the paperwork and credit evaluation. "I don't cultivate the relationships," he said. "I don't bring these deals in." He said Giorango had led him to believe the money for the casino mortgage was going toward a condo development, and he emphasized that because banks don't generally run background checks of their borrowers, he had no way of knowing that Giorango had a criminal record.

His general election opponent, Republican Christine Radogno, seized on the controversy, accusing Giannoulias of "an association with organized crime" and questioning what he'd actually done at Broadway. "When it was convenient he was the vice president in charge of loans, but when they became an issue he wasn't involved," she says.

And when all the risky loans the family had made started going bust, the Giannoulias family did what any prudent bank would do -- they depleted the bank's operating capital by paying themselves big dividends.

At the end of 2006, the last year Giannoulias worked there, Broadway Bank reported net income of more than $45 million, and its return on assets was ranked fifth nationally among 240 banks of its size. But it ranked tenth in the share of its loans tied up in construction and development projects (44 percent) and second in the share of its loans that went toward real estate (97 percent), according to Russ Yates of SNL Financial, a firm that specializes in bank and real estate data analysis.

Then the real estate market began to sink, and fast, leaving many of Broadway's borrowers struggling to keep up with their loan payments. FDIC records show that from the end of 2006 to the end of 2007 the value of the bank's bad real estate loansthose at least 90 days past duemore than doubled, from $3.4 million to $7.4 million. And that was just the beginning of the trouble. By December 2008 the figure had soared to $39.3 million. Giannoulias had left the bank for the treasurer's office by this time, but since there's typically some lag time between when a loan is taken out and when it goes bad, it's probable that some of Broadway's problem loans were issued on his watch.

Meanwhile, Broadway continued its risky real estate lending practices. The bank went from $356 million in construction and development loans in 2006 to $443 million in September 2009; Yates says it now has a larger portion of its loan portfolio tied up in C & D projects than all but two of those 240 similarly sized banks. And the number of these loans going south has also increased. Less than 2 percent of the bank's loans were at least 90 days past due in 2006; now nearly a quarter of them are, which is the second-worst rate in the nation for a bank of its size. Broadway's gone from being among the country's most profitable institutions to operating in the red. Last year it reported a $14 million loss, and it lost another $27 million in the first nine months of this year.

Analysts say that when banks engage in high-risk lending they're supposed to sock away extra money to protect them against the likely losses. From 2002 through 2006, Broadway paid out between $11.3 and $15.4 million a year in cash dividends, according to FDIC reports. In 2007 and 2008, as its earnings went south, it paid out $47.8 million and $34.5 million. The Giannoulias family owns all the stock in the bank's holding company.

By this fall Broadway was at its lowest level of equitythe capital invested in the institutionin six years. "Once their loans started going bad, what did they do?" says Iannaccone. "They pulled money out, and that is the problem."

A lot of Democrats have worried that if Giannoulias won the primary, they'd lose the senate seat in the general. Too inexperienced and too tied to the shady family business, with not enough distance between himself, his bad loans, his huge cashouts as the bank was struggling, and his mob clients.

And by the way: No one will confirm this -- not Obama and not Giannoulias -- but it is strongly suspected by conservative diggers that it was Broadway Bank which underwrote the shady loans for the sham Rezko "property sale."


Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM



Comments

1 Yes. Yes. Good. Good.

Posted by: Demon Sheep at February 04, 2010 12:23 PM (IhQuA)

2 I'll take it.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 04, 2010 12:24 PM (dUOK+)

3 RINOs for Dems in blue states. Conservatives for Reps in red and purples states, 'cause half a loaf still puts something in the tummy.

Posted by: toby928 at February 04, 2010 12:25 PM (PD1tk)

4 Moderates in blue states are generally ok - though it is a case by case basis. The people we need to get rid of are the RINOs like Graham.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 12:25 PM (7BU4a)

5 I've believed all along.
And in related news, I've been way hornier since Brown won. This shit affects me too much.

Posted by: Truman North at February 04, 2010 12:26 PM (e8YaH)

6 If +37 is sizeable, what is huge? +110? Which, come to think of it, is possible in Illinois.

Posted by: alexthechick at February 04, 2010 12:28 PM (8WZWv)

7 The trouble was no one really knew that a victory in Illinois, in The Obama Seat, was even possible.

I thought that that was really the Blago seat. 'The ability to sell' is 9/10ths of the law ...

Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 04, 2010 12:29 PM (A46hP)

8 I'm not familiar with Kirk could someone catch me up to speed briefly. I'm too lazy to research this morning.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 04, 2010 12:29 PM (0ZWfs)

9 Ace, how you doin'?

Posted by: Sasquatch at February 04, 2010 12:31 PM (muUqs)

10 Ace, does this follow your "best conservative available" credo?
And yeah, this snuck up on everybody. Even I, master cynic that I am, didn't think that Obama's old seat could go Republican.
What a pleasant surprise and a bitch slap to The Vapid One.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 04, 2010 12:31 PM (i3AsK)

11 The Obama Seat
It's a long time until November, but those Tears of Unfathomable Sadness will taste like honey.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 04, 2010 12:32 PM (mR7mk)

12 Oh and really, what is the difference between the Democrats and the sort of political party the mob would form?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 12:32 PM (7BU4a)

13 Meh. Electing RINOs in Chicago is one thing. Electing RINOs in Texas is something up with which we should not put. I don't mindthe GOP frontingmoderates in liberal states. What I mind is the GOP putting up moderates in EVERY F'n election possible, even at the expense of more popular conservatives. Scuzzyfava, fer instance. Perry/Hutchison for another.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 04, 2010 12:32 PM (pZEar)

14 Schwarzenegger redux. You ratards (sorry, Rahm) would cheer for a DIABLO who has no conservative credentials just cause he beez havin' R near his sheep fucking name. And then lament over it all those years he embarrasses your precious R trademark.

And no, this is nothing like Brown. Brown is a conservative with a few soft sides, not a DIABLO.

Posted by: Juicer at February 04, 2010 12:38 PM (FQVa9)

15 Not "Obama's seat" it's "the people's seat" once occupied by O'Bama
if you guys don't stress this...it won't be gotten across and it is a very important point that Mr. Brown made that day.

Posted by: curious at February 04, 2010 12:38 PM (p302b)

16 F'n Awesome might be a touch too strong. I'd feel better about Kirk if I knew there were a dozen actual conservatives being added to the caucus this fall so he isn't too influential.

Posted by: Methos at February 04, 2010 12:39 PM (Xsi7M)

17 >>Still, Cohen's problems, "sound at least as bad as Jack Ryan's,"
a Democratic strategist said. After winning the 2004 GOP primary for
U.S. Senate, Ryan stepped down from the ticket after sexually charged
revelations from a divorce case.

Yeah, wanting to have 3-way is just as bad as putting a knife to your girl's neck

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 04, 2010 12:39 PM (muUqs)

18 Alas, they will not be this stupid for too much longer.

Let me be perfectly clear. I won. And I will decide how long we will be stupid.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 04, 2010 12:40 PM (lE2KP)

19 I lived in Illinois for most of my life, and I just never understood the liberalism of the state. Granted, Chicago and the major college towns (Urbana-Champaign, Bloomington-Normal, Carbondale) account for a great deal of that, but if those were the only blue parts of the state I wouldn't be surprised. Instead, there are so many small-medium sized towns throughout the state that are blue to purple. I've never quite understood the power structure; is it because the Republican party is so anemic throughout the state? Union influence? A long history of Democratic machine control?

Sadly, the corruption seems like it's there to stay. People knew Blago was corrupt when he was re-elected, but he still won by a landslide. Illinois just has too many people who vote by the "He may be a crook, but at least he's not a Republican" mantra.

Posted by: Hal at February 04, 2010 12:40 PM (cNSTn)

20 But didn't the NRSCC or one of those dumb GOP acronyms support Kirk in the primary? That's what I object to.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at February 04, 2010 12:40 PM (+4UPl)

21 "Alas, they will not be this stupid for too much longer."

I would not bet the farm on the Dems losing their stupidity any time soon.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at February 04, 2010 12:41 PM (y67bA)

22 BTW, has anyone heardabout Treacher getting hit by the Secret Service?

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 04, 2010 12:41 PM (pZEar)

23 After listening to Rush and others I honestly think we need to take up a collection to send a r i a n a huff poo poo to a reading comprehension and critical listening course. Maybe that linda mood bell has something for her.

Posted by: curious at February 04, 2010 12:42 PM (p302b)

24 Scott Lee explained that he just got in with the wrong people but he did nothing wrong. Laughable at best

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 04, 2010 12:43 PM (1Jaio)

25

It is possible that a bigger push for a conservative candidate by the
rightroots/Tea Partiers could have gotten someone more conservative the
nod.
The trouble was no one really knew that a victory in Illinois, in The
Obama Seat, was even possible. All of this has snuck up on us

Fair enough. But take a look at Bill Brady if you want some justifiable enthusiasm. I'm not sure how we square the circle between nominating a gun-grabber for the Senate and a guy who supports concealed carry for Governor, but maybe the Dems are in enough trouble that it won't matter.

Posted by: Methos at February 04, 2010 12:43 PM (Xsi7M)

26 OT why do you have to post Treach's accident three times over there on the side?

C'mon, we may be morons, but we're not stupid.

Posted by: David in San Diego at February 04, 2010 12:45 PM (GF+6V)

27 "It's a one-time gift by Democrats that they've nominated these guys..."
"nominated" ="vominated"?

Posted by: steve at February 04, 2010 12:46 PM (nd0uY)

28 Who is the Repub running for Lt. Gov?

Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2010 12:46 PM (/8Gs3)

29 Us Illinoisans thought it was possible.. and do even more now that Giannoulias beat Hoffman.

Ace is right.. the Dems aren't going to be this stupid forever.. let's take advantage of it now.

The Blagojevich trial starts in June. That should keep all this Dem corruption on front page in the press right through the elections. Kirk can press Giannoulias with facts but should stay out of the gutter. The press can do that..

The knife-wielding lieutenant governor on the ticket is a nice bonus.. I think God is smiling down on Illinois today.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 04, 2010 12:48 PM (f9c2L)

30 C'mon, we may be morons, but we're not stupid.

Ohhhh, I think there's ample evidence to the contrary.

Also, multiposting is an approved part of the AoSHQ Lifestyle.

Posted by: alexthechick at February 04, 2010 12:49 PM (8WZWv)

31 Those tears of sadness -- the Obama store in Union Station closed. via weasels

Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2010 12:49 PM (PjevJ)

32 Hahahhaha Rush created a new job. He had to hire a math expert to muddle through all these numbers. Once again, the private sector, creates a job.

Posted by: curious at February 04, 2010 12:52 PM (p302b)

33 REAL conservatives excite folks-- moderates don't. Leave aside the social stuff but hit HARD on defense, immigration, ACORN, education, anti-union, fiscal conservativism-- and We'll WIN.

Go moderate on these and lose the "TEA" independents. The party with the most EXCITEMENT WINS, simple as that.

Posted by: ExTex at February 04, 2010 12:52 PM (t6yvu)

34 Kirk isn't Brown. We're going to regret his victory.

Posted by: someone at February 04, 2010 12:55 PM (njJQD)

35 Sounds like the mob "busted out" that bank...kinda like the Obama crime syndicate is busting out the whole country.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 12:56 PM (JreS3)

36 I plan to confirm things soon.

Posted by: tony rezko at February 04, 2010 12:57 PM (DIYmd)

37 >>>Kirk isn't Brown. We're going to regret his victory.

In what sense?

you have an option between worse option A and better option B and you say you will regret the better option. as if there's an Even Better Option C lurking out there.

There isn't.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 12:58 PM (jlvw3)

38
Hey, he was the most conservative likely candidate the citizens of Illinois would elect.
I don't buy this line of reasoning, at all. Conservatism, if articulated properly and accurately, is a winner anywhere anyplace with people who work and pay taxes.
We need to get out this silly mindset of 'electability'.

Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 12:58 PM (jVldi)

39 never forget that these RINOs, unlike Democrats, occasionally bow to popular pressure from the conservative base.

OTOH, "moderate Dems" only bow to pressure from the nutroots -- see Ben Nelson. Occasionally they will bow to independents, but ONLY in the odd situation we see now with independents going +20 or +30 to R's.

That is not normal, and it is unwise beyond measure to bank on that happening more than once or twice a decade.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:00 PM (jlvw3)

40
I have to agree with someone up there. We don't need to encourage any more moderates by supporting them. Yes, I'll vote for these a-holes in the general, but we need to put an end to these shitheels from winning primaries.

Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 01:01 PM (jVldi)

41 It is possible that a bigger push for a conservative candidate by the
rightroots/Tea Partiers could have gotten someone more conservative the
nod.

Then we lay on the pressure and lay it on thick. Make his mea culpa's stick. I'm not going to look this gifthorse in the mouth - hell, even Snowe has voted with us a few times. Just like we weren't going to get a Jim DeMint in MA, we aren't going to get one in IL - if we can get as many hardcore conservatives in where we can, then the occasional Kirk isn't going to be a huge loss for us. Perspective.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 04, 2010 01:01 PM (Ei3oZ)

42 With a corruption plagued Demslate and a RINO who's ticked off the conservatives, this actually presents a great opportunity for a third party run. Unfortunately, I don't see anyone around with the name recognition and charisma to pull it off. But I wouldn't be surprised to see both the left and right gravitate toward minor party candidates and a relatively low plurality determine the winner.

Posted by: SteveN at February 04, 2010 01:01 PM (7EV/g)

43 39
never forget that these RINOs, unlike Democrats, occasionally bow to popular pressure from the conservative base.






Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:00 PM (jlvw3)
Exactly.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 04, 2010 01:02 PM (Ei3oZ)

44 I seriously cannot believe the Dems actually nomintaed Alexi Giannoulias for anything, much less U.S. Senator. Everyone in Chicago knows that Broadway Bank is the "mob bank" in Chicago and has been for years and years.This guy is as mobbed-up as it gets. A trained monkey ought to be able to beat him in a general election this year.
I remember that early on in the 2008 campaign some blogger did a detailed rundown of Barack Obama's ties with all the shady figures in Chicago like Blagojevich and Tony Rezko. Giannoulias is part of that gang, and Broadway Bank almost certainly funded Rezko's dirty deals.

Posted by: rockmom at February 04, 2010 01:03 PM (w/gVZ)

45 >>>I don't buy this line of reasoning, at all. Conservatism, if articulated properly and accurately, is a winner anywhere anyplace with people who work and pay taxes.

You guys keep insisting this is true despite evidence to the contrary.

Blue states are blue for a reason. And that is that they are fairly liberal.

On one hand I will read a hundred comments that liberals are mentally ill and ideologically zealous but on the other hand if we just articulate things properly to states lousy with liberals suddenly we'll be winning 50.1% of the vote.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:03 PM (jlvw3)

46
... if we just articulate things properly to states lousy with liberals suddenly we'll be winning 50.1% of the vote.


YES! To wit: Scott Brown (R-MA_


Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 01:05 PM (jVldi)

47 Who is the Repub running for Lt. Gov?
Plummer. Young (27), conservative and a downstatter (Edwardsville). Real Estate Developer, used a lot of family money (Daddy owns a large number of lumber stores) to get the nomination. Beat Murphy, who was the choice of a the RINO (Dillard) and quasi-RINO (McKenna). Plummer could be an up and comer is the Republicans win the Governor's race and he is smart enough to tackle one or 2 issues and generally work the PR battle.
Of course, it may be March before we know who won the Republican governor's nomination (at this time, total vote seperating the winner (Brady) and the 2nd place finisher(aforementioned RINO Dillard) is 420 or so.).

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:06 PM (V9SYy)

48
True, a conservative is not gonna be elected mayor of San Francisco, but s/he will come kinda close.

However, a really good conservative can be governor of California. I have no doubt about it.

Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 01:08 PM (jVldi)

49 Now -- IF, as is possible, the Democratic Parties in these states contain lots of Reagan Democrats willing to be called into the conservative fold...

...and if such Democrats break the tradition of just voting Democrat even if it's a liberal they don't like...

...and if they become more persuadable by more conservative and more Republican candidates, then things change, and we can start pushing true-blue conservatives.

You can go a lot further with the wind at your back than in your face. Yes, the winds just changed, and that's awesome, but they just changed, like a month or two ago.

You know, for years, we have said of the differences between the poles, "Conservatives look for converts, liberals look for heretics."

I am dismayed that it seems we are joining liberals' in their counterproductive heretic-hunting.

We need converts. If we were a LOSER PARTY, frankly, we might as well be as ideologically pure as possible, because we're going to lose anyway, so we might as well do so with integrity.

We are not going to be losing. We have to get into the winner's mindset here and stop trying to construct a rump party that only exists to propagate a message and nothing else.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:08 PM (jlvw3)

50 I don't buy this line of reasoning, at all. Conservatism, if articulated properly and accurately, is a winner anywhere anyplace with people who work and pay taxes.
In Illinois, you can be a fiscal conservative and win. Otherwise, we have ran, before, strong conservatives who have articulated the conservative message of low taxes, guns, no abortions, etc. Raise your hand if you have heard of Al Salvi. Haven't. Good reason for that - ran statewide twice, did all of the strong conservative message and got killed.

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:11 PM (V9SYy)

51
It's more than a message, conservatism is a template on how to govern and legislate a free and prosperous nation.

Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 01:11 PM (jVldi)

52 >>>YES! To wit: Scott Brown (R-MA_

Yes, but remember, he's also pro-choice (though supports the restrictions that most independents do).

I have to tell you I think some of you don't really act like you believe what you know -- that all politicians are pretty sleazy and will do whatever seems popular.

A year ago conservatism did not seem popular. Now, maybe, it does.

You're not taking into account that Kirk will likely blow whichever way the winds go -- and so, having seen Brown win on a fiscal-conservative message, he will do so as well.

And he will stick with it... well, so long as it's popular, but if it is indeed true that we only need to articulate this message clearly to win minds, then it will be popular for a while.

Since it seems that conservatives and independents are pretty united, for now, on fiscal conservativism, why would Kirk go against 60% of the voters?

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:12 PM (jlvw3)

53 you are talking ideology and political theory and I am talking politics. completely different discussions.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:13 PM (jlvw3)

54 RINOS are weathervane,classic RINOs like Lindsay Graham and Susan Collinswill and have change their tunes when the Right is in ascendency.
only when the GOP and the Dems are in deadlocked willa RINO have any relevancy and power and that's when they get cute.
except for that old fool McCain, point a camera at him and he's yours.

Posted by: canuk at February 04, 2010 01:14 PM (LN9Ve)

55 ace,
I know this is off topic but you might want to know that Obama's pledge to "freeze non-security discretionary spending starting in 2011" is phrased that way because he is actually going to CUT "security discretionary spending". Take a look at the numbers after 2011 the security spending goes down for the rest of his Presidency.
I mentioned this on the Obama budget thing a few days ago but nobody seemed to care.

Posted by: Ken at February 04, 2010 01:14 PM (4JpPD)

56 On one hand I will read a hundred comments that
liberals are mentally ill and ideologically zealous but on the other
hand if we just articulate things properly to states lousy with
liberals suddenly we'll be winning 50.1% of the vote.





Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:03 PM (jlvw3)
It is true that blue states have more liberals, but even in the bluest they aren't the majority. The MA election is a pretty obvious example of this. I don't know how many MA liberals I saw in shock, because they believed that they were a majority...And on top of that, a significant portion of the electorate does not vote primarily on policy stands. They vote on how they view the candidate as a person, how they feel about the political parties at the moment, or even what they *think* the candidate stands for - of which there was a lot in 2008...So can a conservative win in a blue state? Yes. Is it harder? Yes. The candidate has to be very charismatic in the fact of a hostile media. See Reagan or Scott Brown.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 01:15 PM (7BU4a)

57
Look, all I'm saying is we have a proven winning model on how to win elections with conservatism. Scott Brown ran as anti-Obama on everything. And he did it apologetically.

Scott Brown was not really a moderate candidate, in my opinion. His secret was he was so damn charming and quick that he appeared to be open-minded and thoughtful. So in people's minds he didn't appear to be an ideologue.

You dig?

Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 01:16 PM (jVldi)

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Posted by: Iskandar at February 04, 2010 01:16 PM (/o58C)

59 you are also fixated on message alone.

Message alone doesn't win elections. THere is biography, character, charisma, the common touch, etc.

Look at Doug Hoffman and look at Scott Brown.

It will sometimes be the case that the best candidate is not the best conservative, due to simple luck of the draw. Sometimes the best conservative is a stiff who has trouble getting votes. (And yet Hoffman almost won, I know. But that word -- almost.)

Mark Kirk had a big advantage over Paul Hughes -- Kirk had actually stood for election before and won!

This just keeps getting dismissed as 'makes no nevermind to me."

As if the skill-set needed to actually go out and win an election is an entirely irrelevant -- in fact, even immoral -- consideration.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:16 PM (jlvw3)

60 With a corruption plagued Demslate and a RINO who's ticked off the conservatives, this actually presents a great opportunity for a third party run.
Not in Illinois. Simply, there is not a third party candidate who has either the money or organization to make the run. The media markets here are expensive. In addition to Chicago (very expensive) to get a fair amount of the downstate vote you need to buyads out of St. Louis. There are some cheaper media markets (Peoria, Rockford, Quincy, Carbondale, Marion) but those markets are only going to reach about 1/3 of voters.
Then there are the organization problems. We have slightly over 112,000 precints. You need one person in each precints to effectively operate a GOTV effort. That is a heck of alot of people. Say you want to run a third party and just write off Chicago - you still need about 90,000 precints captains to do your GOTV and then you have to win the collar counties by about 5-10% and win downstate by 15%. And, for that to work, you have to pray the Republican can siphon off 10-15% of the city votes to make it work.
Third party in Illinois means the democrats win.

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:17 PM (V9SYy)

61 Here is a place for conservative gadfly's to dig. How about looking at Alexi's campaign contributions, Obama's contributions, and which banks the Illinois Treasury deposited their money?

If there is a high correlation between deposits and donations, we have yet another Illinois scandal.

Posted by: CJ at February 04, 2010 01:17 PM (+uoRK)

62 I voted for hughes, but now i will support kirk. They had a fair primary and now its time to defeat the corrupt dem.

Posted by: Dan at February 04, 2010 01:19 PM (KZraB)

63 Alexi is also going to have problem with the College Tution fund program his office administered that lost somewhere around 60-70% value. That was one of the main responsibilities of his office and he blew it in grand fashion.

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:19 PM (V9SYy)

64 Oh, and one other thing. RINOs can hurt us more then Democrats since they provide a basis for the media to bash conservatives while being "nonpartisan", water down the conservative brand, AND can often due a better job advancing liberals goals because of that R label.

Like I said before, we need to evaluate "moderates" on a case by case basis - I think someone Guilani is a net plus to us and the likes of Specter a net minus (before he flipped).

Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 01:20 PM (7BU4a)

65 >>>>Look, all I'm saying is we have a proven winning model on how to win elections with conservatism. Scott Brown ran as anti-Obama on everything. And he did it apologetically.

True. You don't think Kirk has heard?

By which I mean: Yes, Kirk knows this, so why do you suppose he's going to go with a different template?

Look, this is a dumb discussion, I think. I really do. There is a liberal democrat and there is a moderate/conmservative republican, the latter always capable of being whipsawed by us unlike the former, and you're telling me you see no difference whatsoever between the two possible outcomes here so you are utterly indifferent to the race (and, in fact, might even approve of a Kirk loss to send the message that RINOs suck).

If the GOP is to take the Senate next year -- and decide which judges get approved out of committee and stuff - THEN WE NEED TO WIN EVERY POSSIBLE FUCKING SEAT.



































Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:21 PM (jlvw3)

66 This puts Rezko's name back in the news - it may earn him a shank in the stir, but Rahm can''t be happy.

Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2010 01:22 PM (7K04W)

67 >>>I voted for hughes, but now i will support kirk. They had a fair primary and now its time to defeat the corrupt dem.

Exactly. Hughes had his chance to prove his viability among a more conservative leaning subset of the electorate -- and he lost.

And yet I'm instructed that doesn't matter, gee, if only a conservative were nominated, we could win the whole thing.

Okay. Sorry, I have empirical evidence showing that to be untrue, and you just have assertions/beliefs/hopes.

Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:22 PM (jlvw3)

68 The point is its ok to get a RINO (or more specifically a PTR, part time republican) in the blue states when we can get them with us 50% of the time rather than a 0% dem. Its like baby steps, let the constituency get comfortable voting for an R on the ballot and then primary the PTR's next time around.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 01:22 PM (DIYmd)

69 Agghhh, I'm raising my blood pressure just by reading these ridiculous anti-Kirk comments. The primary election in Illinois was moved up by the dems back in 2008 when fav son Obama was on the ballot. They purposely made Illinois the first primary in the nation to give the chosen One a big win early. Because the dems here can get 200% voter participation and push anything over the finish line when they put their minds to it.
So with a primary on Feb 2, 2010, nominating petitions were due way back in November 2009. Which meant the filing season started in summer 2009. Umm, wasn't Obama the most popular guy in the universe last summer? Except for vanity candidates (i.e., Pat Hughes, a guy who has never voted in a primary election, in fact rarely votes at all, and has never lifted a finger to get anyone else elected either, he's a rich rich rich lawyer guy from Hinsdale who thought he could buy the nomination but I digress), it looked like a fools errand to run for Obama's former US Senate seat.
Mark Kirk (R-IL-10) decided to enter the race back in May or June of 2009. Illinois 10 is a suburban district just north of Evanston. Evanston's US Rep is Jan Schakowsky, a spittle-spitting lefty who makes Nancy Pelosi look moderate. Kirk's district trends very blue, but he kept getting elected, even in the face of Obama's win in 2008. Here's another little factoid: Kirk's district (IL-10) is the boyhood home of Rahm Emmanuel, and it's where David Axelrod lived for years. Do you think Axelrod would live in a red district? It's as blue as can be here, but Kirk continued to win.
Kirk is a squeaky clean guy, Navy Reserve vet, and a good campaigner. The independents around here keep voting for him. He and Scott Brown are probably ideological twins. He will be a terrific force for good in Illinois politics. There is no perfect candidate, especially in Illinois.

Posted by: Boots at February 04, 2010 01:24 PM (06JTY)

70 I think some also over look the obvious advantage of a Kirk win. If, and it is still a big if, the Republicans get control of the Senate (and you need Mark Kirk to win Illinois for that happen) then the Republicans control the committees, including the power of subpoena. Why is this important, lets take one issue: global warming. Want a serious congressional investigation of the science behind global warming - then you need someone like Tom Colburn chairing a committee with subpoena power to investigate. To do that, you need someone like Kirk to win to get there. As my Daddy used to say, its the price you pay for the thing you pray for.

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:24 PM (V9SYy)

71 @28 He is a kid from downstate IL. No political experience. He is 28 years old, family has a lumber business.

Wow.

The possible Rep. Guv candidate, Bill Brady is a staunch conservative in every way. If Kirk Dillard happens to win, he is a RINO.

Posted by: CJ at February 04, 2010 01:24 PM (+uoRK)

72 The problem is that in this state, the Republican bench is very thin. Thanks to Andy McKenna and his predecessors, including Judy Baar-Topinka, the state party is a shambles. It's damn difficult to get quality candidates to run for statewide office when it's just an invitation to having their bank accounts wiped out and a year of their life destroyed.

This will change with time. The party can be taken over precinct by precinct--and it will be. Chicago is a sleeper for Republicans, but on a statewide basis it's huge in the general. It may seem oxymoronic, but the city in which the fewest Republicans are elected is actually the most important for electoral prospects. There are conservatives here. The key is getting them awakened and organized.

If it weren't for Michigan, California and New York, Illinois would be the worst state in the nation. At the state level, things are going to be changing soon. It may not be this election, but within four or five years, heads are going to roll in Springfield. The manufactured crisis is becoming a very real one.

Posted by: Fresh Air at February 04, 2010 01:25 PM (1yI48)

73 Mark Kirk actually ran. Can't get too angry at him for being the only major Republican candidate to show up for the party.

Yep.

Posted by: Y-not at February 04, 2010 01:25 PM (sey23)

74 Maybe this is just me, and in this case, it might have something to do with the "mobbed-up" thing, but every time I read about a guy who attended fill-in-the-blank law school, and who exits, "JD in hand", I think "Couldn't pass the bar".

Posted by: azlibertarian at February 04, 2010 01:27 PM (fGtbP)

75 I find myself caring less and less about social issues as time goes on. I feel like if we focus on the fiscal, the social will follow...

Look, we all know most Repubs are pro-life, do we need to make it more of a focus than the dems will? Just shrug and say, "Yeah, so what?" and move on to the why it's not fiscally responsible to fund it, how much it's going to cost, add to the debt, etc etc etc.

There's going to come a point when someone has the balls to say enough with the entitlements and crack down. We just can't pay for this shit anymore, even some of my lefty friends are coming to that conclusion.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 04, 2010 01:28 PM (Ei3oZ)

76 >>>I voted for hughes, but now i will support kirk. They had a fair primary and now its time to defeat the corrupt dem. Exactly. Hughes had his chance to prove his viability among a more conservative leaning subset of the electorate -- and he lost. And yet I'm instructed that doesn't matter, gee, if only a conservative were nominated, we could win the whole thing. Okay. Sorry, I have empirical evidence showing that to be untrue, and you just have assertions/beliefs/hopes.
Posted by: ace at February 04, 2010 01:22 PM (jlvw3)
I think you nailed it when you pointed out that Kirk ran harder than his opponents.
There's the old joke about the guy who dies and goes to Heaven and gets to ask God one question. He says, "God, I've always been good and faithful, so why is it that every week my prayer for a lottery jackpot went unanswered?" God says, "Murray, it's because you never actuallybothered to buy a ticket."

Posted by: stuiec at February 04, 2010 01:29 PM (7AOgy)

77 The coolest possible result this fall would be a GOP landslide that left the Dems with bare majorities in both houses. They'd be paralyzed, we'd have the big mo', and we could use the "let's finish the job" bit to maximum effect in 2012.

Be still my beating heart, be still, the others will hear you ....

Posted by: Holden Caulfield at February 04, 2010 01:30 PM (8/DeP)

78 Scott Lee Cohen -- a pawnbroker who shocked state Democratic leaders Tuesday night by winning the party's nomination for lieutenant governor -- was arrested about four-and-a-half years ago and accused of holding a knife to a former live-in girlfriend's neck, newly obtained court records show.
Scott Lee Cohen, mmmmmmm, mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 04, 2010 01:31 PM (V9SYy)

79 I-will-not-vote-for-Kirk-period.

Posted by: d_Fitz at February 04, 2010 01:31 PM (mnrcy)

80 Conservatism, if articulated properly and accurately, is a winner anywhere anyplace with people who work and pay taxes.
Leaves out lotsof metropolitan Chicago. Livin' large on Obama's stash, brother!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 04, 2010 01:32 PM (ERJIu)

81 This Scott Lee Cohen had just one radio ad that kept gettingairedon Chicago's WXRT (CBS radio) and by the time Sunday afternoon rolled around I was ready to stab him myself. Scott Lee Cohen had job fairs! Scott Lee Cohen got me a job! It's like, I all about voting for Scott Lee Cohen, man! Urgggghhhh.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 04, 2010 01:35 PM (ERJIu)

82 Between fiscal conserative vs fiscal and social conservative, it is fast becoming a moot point as our debt continues to rise. In a nation where the dollar collapses and food lines return, I don't think the debate of abortion or gay marriage is going to be near the top of the agenda. I say this as a social conservative, those debates are for good times, not when congress is raising the debt limit $2T today that will be surpassed by the end of February.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 01:37 PM (DIYmd)

83 Ace, Thanks for this thread. You are on fire today and completely on target with your comments and pushbacks. Lots of very smart conservatives instinctively understand how crazy and futileit is for the Daily Kos-ers to push the idea of trying to run even more rabidly liberal candidates to replace the blue dogs in conservativestates. Yet, they see nothing inconsistent with THEIR insisting thatonly the "purist" ofconservatives be allowed to succeedin bluestates.
The political climate in Illinois has Republicans jacked up and coming out of the woodwork like I have not seen in decades. I have some Republican neighbors who have been laying low and who I did not even know were Republicans until last week. As a very brave man once said , "Let's Roll!!!"

Posted by: ratskeller at February 04, 2010 01:37 PM (Z2BtM)

84 My advice: get after Kirk and shake some sense into him -- he's going to have to become Scott freaking Brown if at all possible.He needs to get out there and really campaign hard, over the entire state; he isn't trusted -- he needs to garner people's trust.Second, watch out for what the Dems do. They're a creepy bunch of bastards in this state (sadly, most of the Repubs are not much better) and I wouldn't put anything past them -- having Alexi bow out close to election due to some sort of "family trouble" or what have you and replacing him with Hoffmann isn't necessarily an outlandish scenario (watch what Hoffmann does as far as endorsements or media appearances -- he's not unpopular and there is very little voter/party allegiance in this state, for well hashed out reasons already mentioned). And be careful with this: don't go and help Durbin get a second term by campaigning off Kirk's fuck ups.
If Kirk gets in and acts like an elitist snob and RINO boob, the Dem machine here will hang every conservative out to dry in the next election cycle. I hope somebody has Kirk's ear on this -- he cannot vote according to just his area of the state if/when he becomes senator.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 04, 2010 01:38 PM (5/yRG)

85 I found a photo of the Dem Lt. Guv nominee here:

http://tinyurl.com/yd7xbpg

Posted by: jeff at February 04, 2010 01:39 PM (+uoRK)

86 The coolest possible result this fall would be a GOP landslide that left the Dems with bare majorities in both houses.

Nope, the majority party controls the committees which control the spending and controls the investigations.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 01:42 PM (DIYmd)

87 Illinois resident here. Gotta like the R's chances of capturing this seat. Congressman Kirk should head to down-state Illinois (it's COAL COUNTRY)and re-iterate his repudiation of cap'n tax. If he can get the downstaters on board it could be an epic blow-out.

Posted by: TheThinMan at February 04, 2010 01:43 PM (W3XUk)

88 The lieutenant governor seat in Illinois has very few responsibilities, except to escape indictment until the governor gets sent to jail.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 04, 2010 01:44 PM (ERJIu)

89 82
Between fiscal conserative vs fiscal and social conservative, it is
fast becoming a moot point as our debt continues to rise. In a nation
where the dollar collapses and food lines return, I don't think the
debate of abortion or gay marriage is going to be near the top of the
agenda. I say this as a social conservative, those debates are for
good times, not when congress is raising the debt limit $2T today that
will be surpassed by the end of February.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 01:37 PM (DIYmd)
Ditto to all of that.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 04, 2010 01:44 PM (Ei3oZ)

90 Ahh, the soft bigotry of low expectations. Bigot.

Posted by: Pelvis at February 04, 2010 01:49 PM (LlaBi)

91 88 Ditto that! He needs to lighten up on the gun control issue too -- it's a big issue, especially with Brady running (I believe) pro concealed carry.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 04, 2010 01:49 PM (5/yRG)

92 What's killing me is that this would/should/could be a pivotal moment in IL politics -- the economy is crap in this state (moreso than most), the tax situation is horrible,and the progressive agenda is bleeding support. The machinations of the Chicago Machine and its culture of corruption is front and center in everyone's minds (and the IL voters are just about sick of it all to the point of actually not being apathetic for a change). This would be a prime opportunity; this would/should/could be the time forpicking up some wins but also going for the long ball.I pray it isn't squandered...I'm afraid it will be.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 04, 2010 01:53 PM (5/yRG)

93 I pray it isn't squandered...I'm afraid it will be.
Hey, I'm thinking it's the right time for me to run again!

Posted by: Alan Keyes at February 04, 2010 01:57 PM (ERJIu)

94 It amazes me how some folks think it's as easy as having a candidate with the right conservative creds talking all the very conservative talking points to get them elected.

Ace is right.. there's an awful lot more to getting elected.. looks.. charisma.. speaking skills and ability to get a point across.. i.e the ability to sell yourself.

And that's not even talking about fund raising.. either having deep pockets or being able to convince people to give you their hard-earned cash.

All that comes before issues.. Kirk has proven success in one of the most liberal districts in this somewhat liberal state.

He's a fiscal conservative and national security hawk. If we can send a dozen new Senators exactly like him to Washington this year, I would be happy. And if.. just if.. they don't abandon the fiscal conservative views as soon as they get to Washington and can get this country squared away, we will have the votes of moderates and Independents for decades to come. and many of those voters will become Republicans.

But getting into office is not the end.. it's just the beginning. We have a lot of work to do to repair this country and repair the Republican brand that we have allowed to go astray.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 04, 2010 01:57 PM (f9c2L)

95 88 If he can get the downstaters on board it could be an epic blow-out.

If he can, yes it will. I called this as an R pickup months ago so I appreciate the knife-at-the-throat bonus on top of the "Big G" mob corruption. There's never enough your opponent can to to defeat himself.........

downstate Illinois needs to assert itself against Chi-town, and this is a golden opportunity to do just that. Kirk is not Brown but Illinois is what Illinois is and Kirk ran and got the nom, so........turning Blue into purple-red is a Good Thing.

As someone noted, RINOs are not-so-great but they don't listen to nutjob leftist groups ( like Ben Nelson has ) and are MUCH harder to buy off than supposed Blue Dog Dems like Blanche du Bois Lincoln and Mary L from LA

Sometimes you take what you get because that's all you've got at the moment

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 04, 2010 01:59 PM (JrRME)

96 When the ugg boots and replica watches hit the comments you know you are late to the party.
I have to echo what somebody said above, about republicans coming out of the woodwork this election cycle here in Illinois. There were many republican yard signs this week in my little neighborhood in IL-10, more than I've ever seen. In 2008 when Obama was running you were treated like a skunk at a picnic if you outed yourself as a republican. Baby steps, we can do this. People here are getting hit in the face with the reality that others around the state have known for awhile.....loss of jobs, or furlough days, or huge pay cuts.
The democrats have not one, but two tainted candidates on their statewide ticket. Now is not the time to hold purity tests and threaten third party actions. Trust me, in my neighborhood the Tea Party movement is the butt of jokes. These people are still too cool to admit their inner conservative. Financial reality is finally sinking in. What we have to watch out for is the democrats to force Alexi and Cohen off the ticket. It could happen. Or, they could overdose on aspirin.

Posted by: Boots at February 04, 2010 02:01 PM (06JTY)

97 60 Third party in Illinois means the democrats win.

True--third party in most states mean the Dems win. In 1994 there were Perot candidates running in some 'red' Congressional districts and they cut into the R margin of victory. Voters identifying themselves as ( and registering as ) Independents are usually fiscal cons and social squishes.

Run on the fiscal Stuff--especially after tomorrow, when The Truth About Obama's Non-Recovery Not-Jobs Numbers is revealed

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 04, 2010 02:11 PM (JrRME)

98 Fight RINO's in Florida by supporting Rubio's moneybomb. search it on bing I'm not working any html fu today. Heck fight RINO's in all primaries that are not yet decided. But if your choice is support a liberal crook or a RINO on Nov 2 how can there be any question? And voting 3rd party or staying home is at least 1/2 a vote for the liberal thug.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 04, 2010 02:18 PM (dkExz)

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