Nancy Pelosi Stopped One Useful CIA Operation in 2004. So, Um, If Waterboarding Was So Bad, How Come She Couldn't Stop That?

She "came unglued." Unstitched might be a better metaphor.

In mid-2004, then-House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi learned something from a CIA briefing that made her blood boil. Pelosi reportedly "came unglued" at the revelation and had "strong words" with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, demanding that the CIA abandon its plans. As a result, a top-secret finding that President George W. Bush signed to authorize the CIA's activities was revised. Pelosi succeeded in stopping the agency from moving forward with the controversial operation.

What drove Pelosi to action? Not the CIA's waterboarding of suspected al-Qaeda terrorists. In a 2009 interview, a former senior Bush administration official directed me to a little-noticed item from Time magazine. According to this 2004 report, Pelosi objected to a CIA plan to provide money to moderate political parties in Iraq ahead of scheduled elections, in an effort to counter Iran, which was funneling millions to extremist elements. "House minority leader Nancy Pelosi 'came unglued' when she learned about what a source described as a plan for 'the CIA to put an operation in place to affect the outcome of the elections,' " Time reported. "Pelosi had strong words with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice in a phone call about the issue. . . . A senior U.S. official hinted that, under pressure from the Hill, the Administration scaled back its original plans." (Her role was also reported on this page by David Ignatius in 2007.)

Why is this important? Because on May 14, 2009, Pelosi, now speaker of the House, declared in a Capitol Hill news conference that she had opposed CIA waterboarding but was powerless to stop it. A former senior intelligence official told me in 2009 that he was shocked by Pelosi's claim because, he said, "Speaker Pelosi herself has stopped covert action programs that she has been briefed on by going to the White House. In that very same time frame [after she learned about waterboarding] Pelosi had gone back to the White House [over] a separate covert action program, expressed strong opposition to it. And the remarkable part to me, the White House backed off the program, changed one aspect of the program . . . she was particularly opposed to. And literally, the finding was pulled back and revised." If Pelosi had truly opposed waterboarding, he said, she had numerous ways to stop it -- but she didn't try.

That move -- stopping the funding of moderate parties -- seemed to have no other point than to try to sabotage the entire war effort, by the way.

No, Madame Speaker, I'm afraid I'm not terribly shaken up by the idea that the CIA attempts to influence elections with money. How old are you, for crying out loud? Your face says 90, but you seem stuck in 2nd grade.

Thanks to Mark Thiessen, who wrote this book right here.

Posted by: Ace at 08:17 PM



Comments

1 FIRST! Prune-faced cunt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2010 08:21 PM (9Cooa)

2 As an American, I can't decide whether it is more witheringly embarrassing to have Stretch as SOTH, or Toonces as POTUS. It's pretty much a toss up.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 29, 2010 08:23 PM (554T5)

3 No, Madame Speaker, I'm afraid I'm not terribly shaken up by the idea
that the CIA attempts to influence elections with money. How old are you, for crying out loud? Your face says 90, but you seem stuck in 2nd grade.

Influencing US elections via ACORN shenanigans, okay.

Helping moderate parties in Iraq with money, not okay.

I find this witch detestable.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 08:23 PM (otlXg)

4 Unstitched might be a better metaphor.

You are on a roll these days.

Posted by: Gina E at January 29, 2010 08:25 PM (mvlsi)

5 Nancy Pelosi needs to go. When are we ever going to be rid of this scourge?

Posted by: runningrn at January 29, 2010 08:27 PM (CfmlF)

6 November, were the hell R U?

Posted by: Max Power at January 29, 2010 08:28 PM (q177U)

7 Fucking traitorous bag of wrinkles.

Posted by: EC at January 29, 2010 08:31 PM (iWj1i)

8 late, as usual -
Who are the minority whips this time around? I want to write them, tell em to ignore Barry's BS at the retreat, that we have their back if they have ours.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at January 29, 2010 08:31 PM (hCQG5)

9
Yeah, remember when you chastised me about saying she needed to go on a date with a noose? Well, treason is a capital offense, and I stand by my statement.

ps. buy more ammo

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 08:31 PM (4Rlzw)

10 The treason party strikes again. We shouldn't be surprised though. This is the same party whose actions led to the deaths of millions in Southeast Asia.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2010 08:31 PM (P33XN)

11 San Fran Nan is the nexus of evil in Washington right now. We take back the house, she's out of the leadership and we can bottle up Baracky's Boneheaded Bolshevism but good.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2010 08:32 PM (MMC8r)

12 "Your face says 90, but you seem stuck in 2nd grade."
That's the money line.

Posted by: bverwey at January 29, 2010 08:32 PM (I7mrm)

13 >>ps. buy more ammo

way past ammo. its bombs, baby, bombs!

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at January 29, 2010 08:32 PM (hCQG5)

14 Nanny Nancy is returned to office every two years by functioning cretins who believe that putting a "COEXIST" sticker on their Prius will bring about world peace and harmony

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2010 08:33 PM (sYxEE)

15 She started to melt, eww
Oh nm that's how she normally looks even when Dorothy doesn't dump water on her

Posted by: Truman North at January 29, 2010 08:33 PM (FjC5u)

16 According to this 2004 report, Pelosi objected to a CIA plan to provide money to moderate political parties in Iraq ahead of scheduled elections, in an effort to counter Iran, which was funneling millions to extremist elements
WTF OMG LMAO, these asshats are always on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 08:34 PM (B1sBB)

17 We were winning, she had no other choice but betrayal
/

Posted by: meleager at January 29, 2010 08:34 PM (h+Re2)

18 Q: Is it possible that a single piece of human detritus can fatally contaminate the American Experience?
A: Why yes it can and it's name is Pelosi.

Posted by: ErikW at January 29, 2010 08:35 PM (+2seC)

19 How does she sleep at night?

Posted by: Techie at January 29, 2010 08:36 PM (bb/nR)

20 How does she sleep at night?

In a bathtub filled with the blood of virgins.

Posted by: nickless at January 29, 2010 08:38 PM (MMC8r)

21 14 Nanny Nancy is returned to office every two years by functioning cretins who believe that putting a "COEXIST" sticker on their Prius will bring about world peace and harmony
Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2010 08:33 PM (sYxEE)
I hocked a loogie on one the other day, thought my wife was gonna burst a seam. She's convinced I'm a14yr oldtrapped in a 39yr old body, but she doesn't complain on Thurs night! IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 08:39 PM (B1sBB)

22 Influencing US elections via ACORN shenanigans, okay.Helping moderate parties in Iraq with money, not okay.I find this witch detestable.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 08:23 PM (otlXg)
Well, success in Iraq earlier might have had more American lives saved...and we can't have that!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2010 08:39 PM (bgcml)

23 How does she sleep at night?

Posted by: Techie

Upside down in a cave.

Posted by: Iskandar at January 29, 2010 08:40 PM (/o58C)

24 A little birdie who was sitting with Dr Rice once told me about a conversation Dr Rice had with G.W.Bush.
"Now Obama will have to deal with her George"
The birdie laughed as he told me this.True story.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 08:41 PM (MaqIC)

25 She(saggy jugs)drinks the blood of the new born child, King Diamond told me so.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 08:41 PM (B1sBB)

26 Mentally she is truly little more than a child.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2010 08:41 PM (j1Dd/)

27
Wasn't some assclown repub telling us how phenomenally bright she is in some article the other day?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 08:42 PM (4Rlzw)

28 Why is this woman in power in the government, and not in shackles in jail?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Proprietor, International House of Bacon at January 29, 2010 08:43 PM (erIg9)

29 19 Techie

In a coffin?

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 29, 2010 08:44 PM (K4WP9)

30 She's cum undun

Posted by: Guess Who at January 29, 2010 08:44 PM (d7Px0)

31 A secret aging therapy amongst the elite.....
Having transfusions of child and youth blood
Perhaps at the root of her immature behavior

Posted by: maverick muse at January 29, 2010 08:44 PM (+CLh/)

32 evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight
Dude, I laugh every time I read that sig

Posted by: Max Power at January 29, 2010 08:44 PM (q177U)

33 How does she sleep at night?

Posted by: Techie at January 29, 2010 08:36 PM (bb/nR)

Why should I give a damn about getting more soldiers killed? They aren't going to vote for me anyway.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 29, 2010 08:44 PM (bgcml)

34 It's OK to bribe US Senators with taxpayers money, though. Perfectly OK, Harry.

Posted by: Dell at January 29, 2010 08:45 PM (o0L0L)

35 Why is this woman in power in the government, and not in shackles in jail?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Proprietor, International House of Bacon at January 29, 2010 08:43 PM (erIg9)

Treason is now opposing my will, not giving aid and comfort to America's enemies.
I won.

Posted by: Barack obama at January 29, 2010 08:45 PM (bgcml)

36 27 Wasn't some assclown repub telling us how phenomenally bright she is in some article the other day?
Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 08:42 PM (4Rlzw)
My lilly white ass is phenomenally bright too but I can only count on it to produce zits, hairs turds.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 08:46 PM (B1sBB)

37 Nancy needs to be waterboarded.

Posted by: runningrn at January 29, 2010 08:46 PM (CfmlF)

38 Nancy needs to be waterboarded.

A lot.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 08:48 PM (4Rlzw)

39 Nancy needs to be waterboarded.
2cups1board.com

Posted by: Max Power at January 29, 2010 08:48 PM (q177U)

40 How does she sleep at night?

In her native earth.

Posted by: toby928 at January 29, 2010 08:48 PM (PD1tk)

41 >>How does she sleep at night?

>>In a bathtub filled with the blood of virgins.

Oddly enough I was reading a
science article where they replaced the blood of old mice with that of
young mice and the old mice tended to live longer than average, with
more energy and activity.

So I fully expect thats her next move

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at January 29, 2010 08:49 PM (hCQG5)

42 I remember on FOX NEWS Palosi stating that she NEVER heard (or could not remember) anything about waterboarding. It is entirely possible that Palosi was not even there. Bush people say she was. The word waterboarding was not in the playbook of the Democrats at that time, so she did not identify with that codeword.

Posted by: mystry at January 29, 2010 08:49 PM (kmgIE)

43 Nancy needs to be golden waterboarded.

Posted by: Guess Who at January 29, 2010 08:49 PM (d7Px0)

44 As wrinkled as she is....
hasn't she been at least dunked a lot?
They dunk witches don't they?

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2010 08:50 PM (+CLh/)

45 Yeah, I need to p/u Mark Thiessen's book but i still haven't got thru Liberal Fascism yet; I need a dictionary and a thesaurus to get thru that thome.
Another victom of apublic edication.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 08:52 PM (B1sBB)

46 How does she sleep at night?
Wasn't it that eminent philosopher Will Smith that said even Hitler thought he was doing good?
Yeah, I know. F**k Godwin, its true.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 29, 2010 08:53 PM (ZTGFz)

47 20
In a bathtub filled with the blood of virgins.

So, you're saying their might be a dungeon raid in Diablo 3 taking place in the ruins of Pelosi's castle to find treasures and rare items?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 08:54 PM (otlXg)

48 Imagine how she would look without her botox injections!

Posted by: BUTZI at January 29, 2010 08:54 PM (qLV03)

49 Nancy needs to be golden waterboarded.
What's that Japanese word for multiple...waterboarders?

Posted by: Max Power at January 29, 2010 08:54 PM (q177U)

50 I really hate this bitch.

Pelosi is the worst kind of person to be given a lot of power. She's both arrogant and dumb, which is an awful cocktail. I used to see that combo a lot when I was in the military; the Army officer corps is rife with small brains and big egos. But the absolute worst asshole I ever met there doesn't come close to this woman.

Posted by: UGAdawg at January 29, 2010 08:54 PM (/VjHB)

51 Yet another grave I look forward to pissing on. I should start a tour.

Posted by: ErikW at January 29, 2010 08:54 PM (+2seC)

52 Foggy memory, Foggy face.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 08:55 PM (MaqIC)

53 So, you're saying their might be a dungeon raid in Diablo 3 taking place in the ruins of Pelosi's castle to find treasures and rare items?
I heard that if you finish the gameplaying aschaotic evil you can unlock Nancy as a playable character.

Posted by: Max Power at January 29, 2010 08:56 PM (q177U)

54 How does she sleep at night?
Upside down, hanging from a beam.

Posted by: huerfano at January 29, 2010 08:56 PM (n6X5O)

55 John, is that you?

Posted by: Elizabeth Edwards at January 29, 2010 08:56 PM (qO6T2)

56 She'd be Helen Thomas' twin.
What strikes me is that MOST of America has no idea what an idiot she is.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 08:57 PM (MaqIC)

57 Nancy was at a AGW ppt coloring contest with me. I'll swear to it.

Posted by: Charles at January 29, 2010 08:57 PM (d7Px0)

58 Tell me where we should start building the gallows.

Posted by: tangonine at January 29, 2010 08:57 PM (C8Pcc)

59 No way. No way. Pelosi isn't sleeping with John Edwards.

Anymore.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 08:57 PM (MaqIC)

60 Shocker...sounds like Iran was pulling Pelosi's strings.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 08:58 PM (3RWnU)

61 #53 I heard that if you finish the gameplaying aschaotic evil you can unlock Nancy as a playable character.

I dunno if Blizzard would do that. Nancy's character would be so vile and scary-looking that they'd lose the pre-teen and tween demographic for their game. Hell, I'd have problems playing as Nancy.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 08:58 PM (otlXg)

62 Yet another grave I look forward to pissing on. I should start a tour.

You too?! Man, I'm all about finding whatever cesspool where Zinn is planted and water that one, Chomsky when he kicks, Dean when he finally gives a little-girl squeal and keels over, and of course Dingy Harry.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 08:58 PM (4Rlzw)

63 How does she sleep at night?

She is deflated, rolled up and put in a drawer

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2010 08:58 PM (+CLh/)

64 http://www.ugo.com/movies/oj-simpsons-criminal-masterminds-evil-bomber

Posted by: alexthedude at January 29, 2010 08:58 PM (5GrY8)

65 Tell them about my chronic yeast infections and your dry scalp -- we can win in 2012!

Posted by: Elizabeth Edwards at January 29, 2010 08:59 PM (d7Px0)

66 I'm pretty sure she sleeps during the day...and has problems with mirrors.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 08:59 PM (3RWnU)

67 60
Shocker...sounds like Iran was pulling Pelosi's strings.

Hell, she's probably doing it for free.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 09:00 PM (otlXg)

68 Yes but she wants affordable health care for our children that will end rectal itch, save us Billions, bring peace to the world and buckets of botox for her.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:01 PM (MaqIC)

69 Nancy stole that finger-erection thing from me.

Posted by: Dr. Ruth at January 29, 2010 09:01 PM (d7Px0)

70 I should start a tour.

I think this is a money idea. The "Pissing On Their Graves AMTRAK Tour"
Sleeper cars, club cars and private buses at the selected cities. The beer will be gratis.

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2010 09:02 PM (+CLh/)

71 Hey, being Speaker of the House is hard. Nancy can't just wave a magic wand......awww, fuck it. Never mind.

Posted by: Ellie Light at January 29, 2010 09:03 PM (554T5)

72 56 What strikes me is that MOST of America has no idea what an idiot she is.
Seriously, I talk to people at work, my friends, family and they really have no clue. Sometimes i think I'mtoomuch of a junkie w/this shit but,I don't know, blah, blah, blah...its frustrating. They are more worried about TV shows, birthday parties, the next vacation etc. it makes me nuts.
I need a beer.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM (B1sBB)

73 I really like this idea of an American Grave Pissing Tour, kinda like the whiskey tours you can do in Kentucky.
I'll have to incorporateit into some motorcycle trips this summer.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM (ZTGFz)

74 62
zinn:http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/transformers-revenge-fallen

Posted by: alexthedude at January 29, 2010 09:05 PM (5GrY8)

75 Nancy didn't lie........judging by her booze bill, she obviously has 'memory problems'.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 29, 2010 09:05 PM (ZQBnQ)

76 Never mind how mentally cramped one has to be to be a Liberal, but how retizzled does one have to be to buy into Nancy Pelosi?
If she were representing me in Congress I'd burn myself to death in the street. (Or maybe I'd just get a snarky bumper sticker, but still...)

Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:06 PM (V2pCF)

77 Nancy can't just wave a magic wand.....

Vampire Covens don't use wands

Posted by: Beto at January 29, 2010 09:07 PM (+CLh/)

78 http://tinyurl.com/y559kx

this one alexthedude

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at January 29, 2010 09:07 PM (hCQG5)

79 I'm sure she drives a Prius.

Posted by: BUTZI at January 29, 2010 09:08 PM (qLV03)

80 I really like this idea of an American Grave Pissing Tour, too, but fuck AMTRAK, we're gonna have 80 miles of High Speed Rail.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 29, 2010 09:08 PM (rQTdM)

81 73
I really like this idea of an American Grave Pissing Tour, kinda like the whiskey tours you can do in Kentucky.
I'll have to incorporateit into some motorcycle trips this summer.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM (ZTGFz)
Will there be beer and golf too?

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:08 PM (B1sBB)

82 Last election (2006 i think) Ms. Pelosi only had one credible challenger. It came from her left. Who can name the candidate?

Posted by: rawmuse at January 29, 2010 09:09 PM (6Kciv)

83
How does she sleep at night?

She doesn't. She sleeps during the day in a coffin.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:10 PM (S1Ttj)

84 Nancy needs to be waterboarded.

She would melt.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2010 09:10 PM (Vo2Ef)

85 i didn't know broom sticks got 40mpg.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:10 PM (B1sBB)

86 Who can name the candidate?

Leon Trotsky?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 29, 2010 09:11 PM (554T5)

87 If the Internet has taught me anything, it's that if replica handbags was willing to handle Health Care negotiations, we'd all be a lot better off.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (V2pCF)

88 They don't care how pithy a comment you can make. They don't care a whit. You could call Pelosi any name in the book, and come up with the ultimate snarky witticism and it wouldn't even register. Why? They have their eye on the prize and their hands on the wheel. They are in a stone cold trance. The right is sitting there are pithy and flaccid and utterly irrelevant.

Slowly we move from shock to anger to despair to hopelessness to renewal. We are somewhere between anger and despair at this point in time. December 22, 2012 looks to be a date with a lot of potential considering we will be about 7 weeks into the shock of a unpopular sitting president getting re-elected by an undercounted underclass. The point will have been irreversibly tipped.

Posted by: pc at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (crDIp)

89 Cindy Sheehan,

do I get to go on the tour?

Posted by: BUTZI at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (qLV03)

90 82 Last election (2006 i think) Ms. Pelosi only had one credible challenger. It came from her left. Who can name the candidate?
Posted by: rawmuse at January 29, 2010 09:09 PM (6Kciv)
that douchbag mayor that was married to the Foxhottie Guilfoyl(Rossdale?)

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (B1sBB)

91 But Democrats were not always this detached from reality. It became so, when the idea's Democrats once fostered were proven not to work. It became a freak show, when libs realized they could only have an office or power, if they pandered to the least common denominator. It grew into the Star Wars bar scene. The MSM has tried to paint the GOP or Conservatives as extreme.
Greyson? Pelosi? Obama? Sebellius? Napolitano? Jennings? Van Jones? Steven Chu? Al Gore? On and on and on. Democrats INVITED and WELCOMED NUTS.
So we are left with a MSM that is by it's very nature liberal. Then add the MADDOWS, MATTHEWS, OLBERMANS and BEHARS.
THEY ARE FREAKS!!! And now mainstream Democrats.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (MaqIC)

92 And the answer is...
Cindy Sheehan!
Although I think it's very generous to call her a credible challenger.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 29, 2010 09:13 PM (ZTGFz)

93 They are more worried about TV shows, birthday parties, the next vacation etc. it makes me nuts.
I need a beer.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM (B1sBB)
And this is exactly why the Left wins elections. The majority of the electorate is conservative, but doesn't want to follow politics. This why the more clearly lines are drawn in an election, the more likely the right is to win.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2010 09:13 PM (bgcml)

94 You're right, credible should be replaced with incredible.

Posted by: rawmuse at January 29, 2010 09:14 PM (6Kciv)

95 Worse even than Nazi Pelosi, are the asshole fucksticks that keep re-electing this worthless traitorous scrunt to office.

Those people should have their voting rights, and possibly a number of appendages removed.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Proprietor, International House of Bacon at January 29, 2010 09:15 PM (erIg9)

96 I guess I really should have read through the comments before posting. The Vampire metaphors are numerous already.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:15 PM (S1Ttj)

97 Gavin Newsome. He was also fucking his best friends wife.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:15 PM (MaqIC)

98 85
Nancy needs to be waterboarded.
She would melt.

So?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 09:16 PM (otlXg)

99 When Obama is elected, it will validate in pure numbers the fact the number of people taking from the government has become greater than the number giving to the government. The game is approaching an end phase. I think most people sense this like a dog senses an earthquake. Except in slow motion. And yeah our enemies are all set to apply the coup de grace when we are at our weakest. I'd say that will be sometime into the second or third week of rioting. And we are most definitely in a political box, unable to free ourselves. Meanwhile the little Emirates keep buying super jumbo jetliners and training pilots. Just doing their part for their team getting ready for game day.

Posted by: pc at January 29, 2010 09:16 PM (crDIp)

100 UNCLEFACTS.....It's San Fran-fucking-cisco.
These people are waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out there.
She is one of them.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:16 PM (MaqIC)

101 If you missed Beck this afternoon, he had three historians on who told the sick, sordid truth about "modern Progressives." You'll feel like you're living in the Twilight Zone compared to what the Founders envisioned. Try and DVR it this weekend.
It was fascinating to say the least -- esp. the part about the Harvard Law prof in the '20s who decreed we needed to make decisions not onConstitutional Law butcase law (thereby basing our decisions forever on decisions liberal judges made earlier!).

Posted by: RushBabe at January 29, 2010 09:17 PM (LKkE8)

102
Any way, how does she sleep at night?

Essence of Gelfling.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:17 PM (S1Ttj)

103 we're gonna have 80 miles of High Speed Rail.

The only thing "high speed" about that will be the rate at which money is pissed away never to be seen again.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:18 PM (3RWnU)

104 #93 So I guess it takes one moonbat or unseat another moonbat. There are to many moonbats in San Fran... I understand that only 13% are unregistered Democrats in her district. Ugh. No wonder this is ugly.

Posted by: mystry at January 29, 2010 09:18 PM (kmgIE)

105 #77 Vampire Covens don't use wands

Just ask Rum or even Miss'80sbaby.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 09:18 PM (otlXg)

106 THEY ARE FREAKS!!! And now mainstream Democrats.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:12 PM (MaqIC)
I think the issue is the collapse of the Soviet Union. Prior to 91, the left defined itself as somewhere between capitalism and international socialism.Well international socialism spectacularly lost to capitalism, so it becomes hard to sell yourself as in between success and failure...So they looked for a new model - and they found it by dropping most of the internationalist trappings. National socialism has historically done much better economically then international socialism because it is less dogmatic. Controlling industry is fine - it really doesn't matter much who owns it.So now they have a new model. One that people should be rejecting out of hand...but the Left has deluded people into thinking fascism is some lassiez faire 'christianist' government type...not exactly what they are peddling.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2010 09:18 PM (bgcml)

107 100
It makes me sad that my kids won't have the same opportunities that I had. People like Pelousy are taking away their future.

Posted by: BUTZI at January 29, 2010 09:19 PM (qLV03)

108 Wait a sec, Ace, are you saying that Mark Thiessen is a fellow moron?

Posted by: DelD at January 29, 2010 09:20 PM (eWtdM)

109 94 They are more worried about TV shows, birthday parties, the next vacation etc. it makes me nuts.
I need a beer.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM (B1sBB)
And this is exactly why the Left wins elections. The majority of the electorate is conservative, but doesn't want to follow politics. This why the more clearly lines are drawn in an election, the more likely the right is to win.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2010 09:13 PM (bgcml)
Its true, the majority of right-minded foks are too busy working, taking care of there family, friends and neighbors(the way it should be) living the American dream. We are not athome or in our parents basement signing up for the next SEIU rally. Fortunatley thatsbeginning to change w/the Tea Party movement, I just hope it can be sustained and its not too late.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:20 PM (B1sBB)

110 Prune face wouldn't know the difference between waterboarding and a yellow shower. Maybe that's why she didn't object.

Posted by: Ronster at January 29, 2010 09:20 PM (Xu6d3)

111 i was wondering when someone was going to say that.

i mean
seriously tho....the information just gets more and more damning on
that whole waterboarding issue as times go by for the dems.

their entire shock and outrage posture has been proven to be a complete and total orwellian lie.


yet this gets no coverage....

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at January 29, 2010 09:21 PM (5r0Tz)

112 Waterboarding SanFran Nan's a good plan. But I suggest we use battery acid.
As for sleeping arrangements, the vile hell-spawned creature probably sleeps on a pile of ill-gotten taxpayer dollars. One more traitorous theif in a party full oftraitorous theives.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 29, 2010 09:21 PM (4nbyM)

113 104

If the thing ever really gets built (8 billion dollars can disappear real quick in these projects), they'll spend more policing and maintaining it than they ever take in. It'll be a monument to Obama's fecklessness and lack of foresight.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:21 PM (V2pCF)

114 re-elected I should have written. Re-elected in spite of being rejected by the polled public. The undercounted underclass will push him over the finish line by the sheer weight of their numbers. People who don't speak three sentences of english don't participate in focus groups. But the do vote in Presidential elections starring ostensibly one of them. This the Chavez method. Inspire the poorest and richest to destroy the middle class.

Posted by: pc at January 29, 2010 09:21 PM (crDIp)

115 I really like this idea of an American Grave Pissing Tour, too, but fuck AMTRAK, we're gonna have 80 miles of High Speed Rail.
Our high-speed rail will take us from Columbus to Cleveland in four hours.
Beat THAT, you Frenchie bastards!
TGV my ass.

Posted by: ErikW at January 29, 2010 09:21 PM (l5j2F)

116 Last election (2006 i think) Ms. Pelosi only had one credible challenger. It came from her left. Who can name the candidate?
Cindy Sheehan. Best part of that misreable campaign, the local left wing loony blogs in Frisco (and if you think the guys at the Daily Kos needs meds, these people are beyond full bat shit crazy) whinning about how the "conservative San Fransico" media was preventing Sheehan from getting any coverage of her "progressive" agenda and how Sheehan was needed to be elected to start the "War Crimes/Crimes Against Humanity" trials. Geez.

Posted by: Mallamutt at January 29, 2010 09:22 PM (V9SYy)

117 It makes me sad that my kids won't have the same opportunities that I had.

There will be lots of opportunity...just in different areas. Organized crime, black markets and such. Dysfunctional command economies always result in these things.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:23 PM (3RWnU)

118 ""She doesn't. She sleeps during the day in a coffin.""

Bella Pelosi?

Posted by: Berserker at January 29, 2010 09:23 PM (gWHrG)

119 Any way, how does she sleep at night? Essence of Gelfling.
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:17 PM (S1Ttj)
HA! ROFL.I definitely did not expect a Dark Crystal reference on this thread. Wrinkly old Nan does sorta seem similar to the Skeskis that whined and simpered all the time...

Posted by: Reactionary at January 29, 2010 09:23 PM (4nbyM)

120 119

heh.


Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:24 PM (V2pCF)

121 98 Gavin Newsome. He was also fucking his best friends wife.
Yeah thats him, I was thinking of Gavine Rossdale the singer for the band Bush, who by the way is married to another hottie, Gwen altuogh she needs a boob job...just sayin.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:24 PM (B1sBB)

122 The 800 MILLION PLU$ that Wisconsin got for NONSENSICAL HIGH SPEED RAIL will link Milwaukee and Madison. 70 miles in a straight line.
It will never ever ever truly be HIGH SPEED.
But the worst lie of all, is that they claim it will carry 800,000 riders per year. TOTAL BULLSHIT. That is 2389 rides 24/7/365. nonsense.
It's LIBERAL TRASH. Choooooo choooooooo. Hurray!!!!!

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:25 PM (MaqIC)

123 Maybe we need to demand DNA tests of these politicians...just to make sure they're actually human. I'm just saying...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:25 PM (3RWnU)

124 If they didn't lie, they'd have neither jobs nor money. Expect more.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:26 PM (V2pCF)

125 they claim it will carry 800,000 riders per year.

They're counting the cockroaches in the diner car as riders.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:27 PM (3RWnU)

126 Maybe we need to demand DNA tests of these politicians...just to make sure they're actually human. I'm just saying...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:25 PM (3RWnU)
Lizard people have rights too man

Posted by: Some MN voter at January 29, 2010 09:28 PM (bgcml)

127 Libs have to lie LINCOLN. If they tell the truth NO ONE would vote for them.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:28 PM (MaqIC)

128 Maybe we need to demand DNA tests of these politicians
And then figure out a way to block it forever from the gene pool.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 29, 2010 09:28 PM (554T5)

129 128

You're preaching to the choir, I've had Kennedy and/or Kerry as my Senator for all but 3 years of my life. I'm a bit jaded.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 29, 2010 09:30 PM (V2pCF)

130 Mr. Avenger
We've had the discussion around here about the High Speed Boondoogle. I'm in the transportation engineering field and know a little about it. Where in the hell are they going to get the expertise to design, inspect and build this crap? We voted that down in Florida, as I'm sure you recall. That stimulus money will go down a rathole, never to be seen in Florida. It'll go to Japan or Germany or even (cringe) France.
Don't get me wrong. If we could make it work I'd be all for it.I've been enjoying the benefits of funemployment for a year (almost tothe day) and would love to work on the project. But, all the funds will be exhausted before it can ever be built.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 29, 2010 09:30 PM (rQTdM)

131 Hmmm, so what else has been swept under the carpet over the last few years, let start w/Nan Fran and the CIA lies case. Next...the Black Panther sitchy-ation. Or how bout good ole Blagoyovich, hehe he is just soooo entertaining!! And dont forget our beloved AGW scientist!! Please feel free to add to the list...

Shamefull...at best.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:31 PM (B1sBB)

132 104
we're gonna have 80 miles of High Speed Rail.

The only thing "high speed" about that will be the rate at which money is pissed away never to be seen again.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:18 PM

I can't forget the Fat Genius Mikey Moore talking about his choo-choo's

"Imagine going from New York to L.A. in 18 hours!"

Yeh Mikey, I can imagine it in 5 hours, it's called a jet airplane

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2010 09:31 PM (sYxEE)

133 99
85
Nancy needs to be waterboarded.
She would melt.

So?


Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 09:16 PM (otlXg)
Just statin' facts, not passin' judgment.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2010 09:31 PM (Vo2Ef)

134 Let's not forget that BHO (or at least with his blessing) sent James FRICKIN Carville to Afghanistan to campaign forAshraf Ghani and against Karzai. I wonder what our spkr had to say about that?

Posted by: RobertM at January 29, 2010 09:32 PM (tSPbs)

135 Maybe we need to demand DNA tests of these politiciansAnd then figure out a way to block it forever from the gene pool.

Or wish for a Tom Clancy scenario a la Executive Orders.

Posted by: ErikW at January 29, 2010 09:33 PM (l5j2F)

136 They're counting the cockroaches in the diner car as riders.
Too late they're already hitching a ride w/Garafa-ho.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:34 PM (B1sBB)

137 Don't get me wrong. If we could make it work I'd be all for it.I've been enjoying the benefits of funemployment for a year (almost tothe day) and would love to work on the project. But, all the funds will be exhausted before it can ever be built.
Mostly by all of the environmental impact studies that will be required. And all the hearings that will have to be held over those environmental impact studies. And the subsequent litigation that will arise from those environmental impact studies.

Posted by: Mallamutt at January 29, 2010 09:34 PM (V9SYy)

138 the bitch is mad w/ power. she has all the money in the world.
the vineyards, the olive groves, the husband.
we pick up the tab for the scrunt everywhere she goes in her travels to undermine this country. she's cheap, nasty, stupid and hungry for all the control she can get.
she's a traitor too , the way she went to Damascus, rag on her head to meet with basher and undermine pres. bush.
disgusting.

Posted by: nyc redneck at January 29, 2010 09:35 PM (EtrGh)

139 O/T A conservative group in Nebraska recommends this health-care ads for Ben Nelson. http://tinyurl.com/ygma2m8

Posted by: RushBabe at January 29, 2010 09:35 PM (LKkE8)

140 137..... a Tom Clancy scenario a la Executive Orders.
Me likey. Good call. That would clean house, wouldn't it.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 29, 2010 09:35 PM (rQTdM)

141 Lincoln?? a BIT jaded??? Teddy Backstroke was RE-ELECTED 6 or 7 times after REFUSING MARY JO KOPECHNE .......HEALTH CARE.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:35 PM (MaqIC)

142 The high speed rail between LA and SF is supposed to use existing freight rails. Yeh, I want to be on a 200 mph train when a tremor hits. Or a jihadist removes or mangles a section of track. Or another unionized slug decides to text while operating it. Or another idiot decides to park his car on the tracks before deciding at the last minute not to commit suicide.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2010 09:36 PM (sYxEE)

143 "Imagine going from New York to L.A. in 18 hours!"Yeh Mikey, I can imagine it in 5 hours, it's called a jet airplane
But Mikey has gotten so fat he has to buy 2 seats on the airplane. He is hoping he only has to buy 1 on the choo-choo.

Posted by: Mallamutt at January 29, 2010 09:36 PM (V9SYy)

144 When it comes to numbers, Any number that sounds good will do. After all, its no accountabilty, its HOW you say it. Say anything w/conviction and you win! Democrat commandment #9. If anybody challanges you, why they are obstructionists.

Posted by: mystry at January 29, 2010 09:37 PM (kmgIE)

145 of course EVERYTHING in that meeting is/was classified

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 29, 2010 09:38 PM (mhD2v)

146 OT - Wolf Moon tonite. get out your 3 wolf moon t-shirts.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 29, 2010 09:38 PM (DIYmd)

147 Mallamutt, the problem is that LIBTARDShave your FUNEMPLOYMENTSITUATION backwards. IDEOLOGY FIRST.
FACTS LAST. Responsibility to reality and Americans no where to be seen.
The LEFT is INDEED attempting to TRANSFORM America.
You are part of the collateral damage.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:39 PM (MaqIC)

148 140 oooh Rushbabe, that was snark-alisious!

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:39 PM (B1sBB)

149 Liberals WANT 25% unemployment. That's the threshold where folks start screaming for socialism.

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 09:41 PM (d7Px0)

150 Someone actually said that she was "phenomenally bright"? Geez, have they changed the definition of intelligence and I missed it. Intelligence is not just attaining a number on an arbitrary IQ test or aceing your SAT's or MCAT's or LSAT's or GRE's. If that were the only measure of intelligence then this blog and its writers and posters would be considered a dangerous gang of super intelligent scary people. Intelligence also has the emotional component, the ability to read people, the ability to behave like an adult, the ability to learn how to compromise graciously, the ability to know never to betray trust since it is hard won and once breached rarely returns, the ability to know not to totally decimate your opponents since that usually leads to bitterness and anger which manages to emerge at all the wrong times. The ability to know when to come in out of the rain, when something is really important and worth pursuing and when you can give something up for the greater good or to attain something else later. It almost appears that these people have the numbers (maybe, it would have to really be proven to me) but so lack "the rest of the story."

Posted by: eliot, former governor of NY at January 29, 2010 09:43 PM (p302b)

151 She's cum undun

Posted by: More Cowbell!!11!!! at January 29, 2010 09:43 PM (d7Px0)

152 Rewrite, LIBS are just trying to expand their base.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:43 PM (MaqIC)

153 Nancy Pelosi is an alien.

You know it's true.

Posted by: SlaveDog at January 29, 2010 09:43 PM (W+E+o)

154 150 Liberals WANT 25% unemployment. That's the threshold where folks start screaming for socialism.
Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 09:41 PM (d7Px0)
It happened in Brazil this week, sorry too buzzed and lazy to find the article.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:44 PM (B1sBB)

155 That's the threshold where folks start screaming for socialism locking and loading.
My interpretation.


Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 09:44 PM (4Rlzw)

156 phenomenally bright = union busting at every one of your own businesses while being the darrling of SEIU. And MSM looks the other way.
BRILLIANT!

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 09:45 PM (d7Px0)

157 101

UNCLEFACTS.....It's San Fran-fucking-cisco.

These people are waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out there.

She is one of them.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:16 PM (MaqIC)

Gus, this is why I said they should have their voting rights removed.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Proprietor, International House of Bacon at January 29, 2010 09:45 PM (erIg9)

158 That's the threshold where folks start screaming for socialism locking and loading.My interpretation.
~~~~~~~~~~~
No argument, but the bullets will be going both ways, and BHO (the Army) will win.

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 09:46 PM (d7Px0)

159 151 well said.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:47 PM (B1sBB)

160
Bella Pelosi

"Belllllaaaaaa!"

(Who thought we'd squeeze a "Streetcar Named Desire" reference in this thread?)

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:48 PM (S1Ttj)

161 Rewrite, LIBS are just trying to expand their base. via Cloward-Piven.
BINGO!

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 09:48 PM (d7Px0)

162 Is this a Tupperware Party?

Posted by: Guest at January 29, 2010 09:49 PM (ITzbJ)

163
The high speed rail between LA and SF is supposed to use existing freight rails.

*cough* bullshit *cough* they lie *cough*

Freight roadbed is simply not designed to handle high speed. They might be able to use the same right of way and add a few sidings here or there, but they're going to have to redesign the ballast, rail attachments, ties, etc or it will be a constant source of maintenance problems.

A heavily loaded slow train needs a different trackage design than a light weight high speed one. A fair amount of flexibility is designed into slow/heavy trackage. That same level of flexibility in a high speed application could easily result in derailments.

I rather doubt you could sustain much more than 80mph on typical freight track before the passenger train has stability issues due to the track.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:51 PM (3RWnU)

164 ok here it is, this will twist your jiblets:
http://tiny.cc/cWYbK

Posted by: dananjcon at January 29, 2010 09:52 PM (B1sBB)

165 Nan and Joan Rivers - separated at hatching.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 09:52 PM (S1Ttj)

166 Someone actually said that she was "phenomenally bright"?

Drosophilia Melangaster is "phenomenally bright" compared to say...a rock. Whoever said that was making a statement more about themselves than Pelosi.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (3RWnU)

167 150
Liberals WANT 25% unemployment. That's the threshold where folks start screaming for socialism.

That's when the time is near the end. And after that...only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (otlXg)

168 #156
Dang Straights,
my sentiments too.

Posted by: nyc redneck at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (EtrGh)

169 Federally funded High Speed Rail in the U.S.:

My prediction: Epic Fail.

Posted by: SlaveDog at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (W+E+o)

170 Where is Ace on the illegal voting by Sen. Kirk? Ball dipping?

Posted by: Blazer at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (d7Px0)

171 I'll have to incorporateit into some motorcycle trips this summer.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 29, 2010 09:04 PM
Count me in Bwudda. I'm in Pa. I'm not waiting for murtha to die, I'll piss on him alive. The up to Mass, for Swimmer Keenedy grave. Any East coast suggestions? Dead, Alive..maybe piss filled balloons?

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 29, 2010 09:55 PM (Z0vis)

172 Federally funded High Speed Rail in the U.S.:My prediction: Epic Fail...
Hell we can't get assholes to stop driving around the "closed gates" at crossings where trains do 35 mph. Good luck on right of ways, and everybody saying NIMBY!

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 29, 2010 09:57 PM (Z0vis)

173 Epic Fail + Epic Cost

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:57 PM (3RWnU)

174 FEDERALLY FUNDED HIGH SPEED RAIL
MY PREDICTION......EPIC FAIL

No SHIT??? Really? You think so?????

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 09:57 PM (MaqIC)

175
Federally funded High Speed Rail in the U.S.:My prediction: Epic Fail...
Oh, I have no doubt we'll dump hundreds of billions into a federal blackhole of impact studies and commissions to right reports, so the 'funding' part might be true. We just won't get anything in return. Ever.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 09:59 PM (4Rlzw)

176 It's logical that BHO would want to run a railroad. It'll be another sign of US failure.
BTW, have you ever noticed that BHO looks just like Mussolini when reading from the teleprompters?

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 10:00 PM (d7Px0)

177
'write' reports, sheesh. Don't drink and type, morons.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 10:00 PM (4Rlzw)

178 By the time they're done, it would have been cheaper to give ever potential rider a FREE Caddy Escalade and 20 years worth of FREE gas for it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 10:00 PM (3RWnU)

179 DANG STRAIGHTS??? REALLY??
You don't think this will work out well??
IT'S A LIBTARD FUCKFEST. IT IS FAILURE PERSONIFIED.

Posted by: gus at January 29, 2010 10:00 PM (MaqIC)

180 178

'write' reports, sheesh. Don't drink look at pron and type, morons.

FIFY, Dang. Or is that only for me?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 29, 2010 10:01 PM (otlXg)

181 That's when the time is near the end.
Heh. He IS the False Prophet.

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 10:03 PM (d7Px0)

182
High speed rail ROW's - maybe that's how T. Boone will move his water.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 10:04 PM (S1Ttj)

183
Or is that only for me?

Oh well, of course. I thought the 'looking at pr0n' was a given.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 29, 2010 10:05 PM (4Rlzw)

184 60 Shocker...sounds like Iran was pulling Pelosi's strings.
No, she does what she does for free. Which is even more dangerous.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 29, 2010 10:06 PM (euuyg)

185
No, she does what she does for free.

Believe me, some hitchhikers can come with that free stuff!

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 29, 2010 10:12 PM (S1Ttj)

186 High Speed Rail=the new "Big Dig" in Mass.

Posted by: hutch1200 at January 29, 2010 10:13 PM (Z0vis)

187 Just keep repeating it to yourself, Nancy: "They do it better in Europe."
Health care, rail transport, military (non)-involvement, snooty attitudes--they're all just so much dreamier on the other side of the puddle.

Posted by: Secundus at January 29, 2010 10:16 PM (WuvMD)

188 Isn't the high speed rail supposed to be between Miami and Tampa and Orlando? Heard some explanation that this was the only place with enough free and open land to do this but then also heard the floridians think it is stupid. So, that's great. The very people being bestowed with "the gift" don't want it, so then why spend all that money for something the recipients don't want.

Posted by: eliot, former governor of NY at January 29, 2010 10:23 PM (p302b)

189 God bless Sen. Sessions! He's on FNC showing proof that BHO has ignored every letter that he and others have sent to the WH and Justice.
Post-partisan my arse!

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 10:30 PM (d7Px0)

190 ""BTW, have you ever noticed that BHO looks just like Mussolini when reading from the teleprompters?""

Its the smug look as he raises his nose and looks down it at the pee ons while being insufferably pleased with himself.

Posted by: Berserker at January 29, 2010 10:31 PM (gWHrG)

191 Its the smug look as he raises his nose and looks down it at the pee ons while being insufferably pleased with himself.
Exactly!

Posted by: Rewrite! at January 29, 2010 10:44 PM (d7Px0)

192 Has anyone seen AmishDude? I have a mathematial question I need answered, unless one of the morons here knows about probabilities.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 29, 2010 10:48 PM (4DwVn)

193 ' " Time reported. "Pelosi had strong words with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice in a phone call about the issue. . . . A senior U.S. official hinted that, under pressure from the Hill, the Administration scaled back its original plans." (Her role was also reported on this page by David Ignatius in 2007.)
ok, i see her part , but why did others cave to her treachery

Posted by: willow at January 29, 2010 10:53 PM (5Bf/7)

194 Evening all. I'm not surprised that Pelosi would this as all of her actions show what she is (limo liberal) and what she is capable of (just about anything). What does surprise me is that the Washington Post would print it.

Posted by: scr_north at January 29, 2010 11:18 PM (Kn4gu)

195 I'm really suprised they printed it too, but hey, anything that could possibly take the vile bitch down is ok with me. I think I might detest her more than el precedente. I'd love to see her tried for treason...and have it stick.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 29, 2010 11:28 PM (5/yRG)

196 Well, this is really rich because it's exactly sorta kinda pretty much what the fuck Obama planned with the Taliban in Afghanistan instead of killing them!
http://tinyurl.com/ycjl5bc
Was Nancy pissed then??
I hate this bitch. I hate these damn people.

Posted by: Drillanwr at January 29, 2010 11:36 PM (1kwr2)

197 So, it's OK for us to shoot terrorists in Iraq, but if they run for office and control of the Iraqi military, Pelosi won't let us support the good candidates?

And we know the sick fucking game she was playing. If Bush fought her on this, it would be public that the US wanted certain candidates to win. And that would destroy our efforts and get terrorists in charge.

It's yet another example of the worst level of blackmail, and it absolutely got US Soldiers killed.

Thanks Pelosi. Us not funding the good guys made their elections that much messier and the resulting Iraq that much more theocratic.

This kind of game was played in a millions ways. Bush either caved on something or our war effort was screwed with. Once the democrat leadership learned how to play this... well all of a sudden their spending went insane and... oh, they could even blame Bush for it.

This is so sad. The dems and GOP used to have their arguments without treason entering the mix.

Posted by: Mr Hat at January 29, 2010 11:48 PM (dUOK+)

198 Willow, why did we cave?

Because as soon as they fight Pelosi on this, it leaks.

And that gets our boys killed. And leads to hysteria in a paranoid culture. That's what Pelosi leveraged.

She's beyond words, really. I think this should be discussed in a hearing of some kind. But she's the result of democracy, whether I like it or not.

Posted by: Mr Hat at January 29, 2010 11:50 PM (dUOK+)

199 189
Isn't the high speed rail supposed to be between Miami and Tampa and
Orlando? Heard some explanation that this was the only place with
enough free and open land to do this but then also heard the floridians
think it is stupid. So, that's great. The very people being bestowed
with "the gift" don't want it, so then why spend all that money for
something the recipients don't want.

On another thread someone said no US makers can supply high speed rail equipment, so if true we are going to borrow money from China to buy equipment from Japan to build a rail line no one wants. This stimulates what? Some day when we can afford it a well planned high speed rail system covering the US could be a good thing, but at this point we don't have the money, it will provide very few jobs in the long term after construction is finished and this is another bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: Floridian at January 30, 2010 12:03 AM (CKW49)

200 <a target="_blank" title="" href="http://www.2wc2.com"></a> -<a title=" "href="'>http://2wc2.com/dlil/"> </a> <a target="_blank" title="" href="http://www.2wc2.com"></a> -

Posted by: basim at January 30, 2010 12:58 AM (4LPhe)

201 Unglued, unstitched, a blowout in the botox rendering her tosnap likea sprung Shar Pei. Pity the CIA.
Hideous.

Posted by: Speller at January 30, 2010 02:56 AM (o0R2E)

202 Thank you to those that answered my query last night.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2010 07:53 AM (5Bf/7)

203
Where is Ace on the illegal voting by Sen. Kirk? Ball dipping?

Posted by: Blazer at January 29, 2010 09:54 PM (d7Px0)





Hey dipshit, if you're gonna sock a regular commenter, change the nick around some so everyone knows its not really that commenter. House rules buddy, you should know that by now.

Posted by: Blazer at January 30, 2010 09:15 AM (t72+4)

204 pelosi is an alien

oh fuk i really did not need that mental image

Posted by: B35tomothergaston at January 30, 2010 10:20 AM (SlKU8)

205 No, Madame Speaker, I'm afraid I'm not terribly shaken up by the idea that the CIA attempts to influence elections with money. How old are you, for crying out loud? Your face says 90, but you seem stuck in 2nd grade.
When the hell did she get the vapors over the CIA trying to influence an election? She certainly applauded leaks from the CIA which tried to discredit George Bush. Old Prune Face was right on board with each and every one of those leaks. What a flaming douchebag dummy!

Posted by: Corncob Supporter at January 30, 2010 11:35 AM (ktYjH)

206 Arrogant, possessing an attitude of total entitlement, spoiled, protected by the media because of her status asa far left Democrat,insulated so well in her elected position that she has no need to compromise or even to tolerate anyone who disagrees with her. Politically correct in all regards, a leftist's liberal who is a true winter soldier for the cause. Not overly intelligent, but cunning enough, like a rat who has figured out a maze, to thrive in her world.
George Bush welcomed her graciously when she became the Speaker. Peggy Noonan wrote an editorialcongratulating her and wishing her and her fellow Dems well as they took power in 2006. Pelosi's response was to call George Bush incompetent and gloat that she could say those things becase she was a woman, and that she intended to keep on bashing. Trulya nasty piece of work.
A heartfelt thanks to you moderates and "undecided voters" who have foisted her and her likes on us. Elections have consequences.

Posted by: RM at January 30, 2010 01:00 PM (1kwr2)

207 I find it fascinating that a woman who has a person insert a substantial needle into her face filled with poison, considers anything else torture. And that that same woman does this voluntarily.....doesn't just that make you question her mind?

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