An Even Worse Story on Coakley: Let Guy Off For Raping His 23-Month-Old Niece With Hot Curling Iron

Guy was a cop.

Seems that Coakley does as the machine asks her.

I can't think of any other explanation except that someone made a big withdrawal from the Favor Bank.

Well, either that or outright bribery.

Can anyone else explain?

In October 2005, a Somerville police officer living in Melrose raped his 23-month-old niece with a hot object, most likely a curling iron.

Keith Winfield, then 31, told police he was alone with the toddler that day and made additional statements that would ultimately be used to convict him.

But in the aftermath of the crime, a Middlesex County grand jury overseen by Martha Coakley, then the district attorney, investigated without taking action.
It was only after the toddlers mother filed applications for criminal complaints that Coakley won grand jury indictments charging rape and assault and battery.

Even then, nearly 10 months after the crime, Coakleys office recommended that Winfield be released on personal recognizance, with no cash bail. He remained free until December 2007, when Coakleys successor as district attorney won a conviction and two life terms.

Coakley, now the Democratic candidate for US Senate, has made much of her record prosecuting crimes against children, and says her office handled this investigation appropriately. But the case stands out as one in which she drew criticism for not being aggressive enough. Indeed, the case gave rise to Coakleys last competitive election.

Whoops: I wrote the niece was 23-years-old. Of course she was 23 months old. Brain fart.

Posted by: Ace at 01:47 PM



Comments

1 Fix the headline Ace. You are off by 22 years, one month.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at January 14, 2010 01:48 PM (FkLiP)

2 Yeah the actual story is even worse. Awful. Do they even vet their candidates in MA?

Posted by: brak at January 14, 2010 01:49 PM (W5NBA)

3 Your headline mistakenly says 23-year old, not 23-month old. Both horrible, but the second much worse. The guy who did it should have been flayed.

Posted by: physics geek at January 14, 2010 01:49 PM (MT22W)

4 So, she's a typical Democrat party member. Check.

Posted by: kefka at January 14, 2010 01:50 PM (n1uMU)

5 Jayne Cobb isn't the sharpest guy - that is 21 years, and one month.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at January 14, 2010 01:50 PM (FkLiP)

6
But wait - Scott Brown owns income property.






Posted by: pre-paid sex monster at January 14, 2010 01:51 PM (0fzsA)

7 I felt nauseated reading it -- I thought it was bad that it was a 23 year old, when I found out it was a toddler I thought I was going to throw up.
And her successor got two life term sentences, while Coakley couldn't be bothered to try the case?
How did she ever even get to run for the Senate seat with this kind of garbage in her record?

Posted by: Biblio at January 14, 2010 01:51 PM (y5VNb)

8 Was it rape rape?
So let's get this straight. She was willing to let him walk, and he later got two life terms?

Posted by: JWF at January 14, 2010 01:51 PM (1l37M)

9 I'm still voting for Coakley.

Posted by: Sal Esposito at January 14, 2010 01:52 PM (muUqs)

10 If that doesn't demonstrate marching lock step with the power brokers regardless of the morality I don't know what does. The fact someone so obviously a malevolent power hoarder can find elected office repeatedly is a reminder how dictators get elected.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 14, 2010 01:52 PM (0q2P7)

11 But does she own a timeshare? In Aruba? You wingnuts are funny.

Posted by: Another Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at January 14, 2010 01:52 PM (YmPwQ)

12 This is best left to the state of Massachussettes to determine the pertinent facts of the case.
Namely, was the perpetrator a Negro of dark or light skin? Was he articulate or did he have a Negro dialect? And if it was the latter, did he choose to have said dialect?

Posted by: Majority Leader Harry Reid at January 14, 2010 01:53 PM (6uiF7)

13 Ahh but its those darn Republicans who have the "Culture of Corruption". Keef Olberdork told me so.

Posted by: Typical Idiot Liberal at January 14, 2010 01:53 PM (n6iqK)

14
23 months is like age of consent in Hollywood.

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at January 14, 2010 01:53 PM (fx8sm)

15 Can the Dems have possibly picked an all around WORSE candidate?

Posted by: s'moron at January 14, 2010 01:54 PM (p1s9n)

16 I heard Scott Brown uses Grey Poupon on his pastrami sandwiches.
GREY POUPON PEOPLE!!!!11!!!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 14, 2010 01:54 PM (SqAkN)

17 Coakley: Hard on garden clubs, soft on men who rape their 23 month old nieces with a hot curling iron. Damn those garden clubs sure are a menace to our fair land.

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 14, 2010 01:54 PM (8Vmr4)

18 Getting an indictment is a snap if the prosecution wants it.




Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 01:54 PM (tG+m6)

19 I'm confused. It's not as if the guy owned a time share ...

Posted by: USA at January 14, 2010 01:55 PM (YZISw)

20 I was seriously considering doing a sock puppet of Roman Polanski but this is so horrific I can't even bear to riff.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 14, 2010 01:55 PM (0q2P7)

21 Oh, ick.
It's like once they devote themselves to some "higher purpose", they lose all touch with actual action/consequence reality. Kind of like greenie millionaires who swoop in on their yachts, "save" some village from an eeeeeeevil mining company, and then swan off secure in their self-righteous victory while the natives remain in poverty. Actual people got hurt? Doesn't matter, as long as the liberal did the "right" thing.

Posted by: Joanna at January 14, 2010 01:55 PM (gJQTg)

22 Scott Brown's wife owns a curling iron... the most expensive one at CostCo. This is not only outrageous, it is criminal. Massachusettes (sic) DA Coakley has opened a large scale investigation of this suspicious development.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 14, 2010 01:55 PM (AZGON)

23 I guess all that money from Big Curling Iron was enough to keep Coakley from prosecuting.

It seems she needs a very small push to send her into a frothing batshit lefty screeching fit.

I sure hope she gets that push.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 14, 2010 01:56 PM (xGIqT)

24 So ... Coakley prosecutes and jails an innocent person for the most unbelievable, outrageous stories that anyone with a brain knows to be untrue, yet she lets off someone who actually committed a crime that makes normal people cringe when they even hear about it.
How does this Coakley chick live with herself? This is pure, psychopathic behavior. I guess that's how.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 14, 2010 01:56 PM (A46hP)

25 But Wait. Coakley is a fine upstanding Party member in good standing.
She's paid her dues.
She has been charged by the powers that be to represent Massachusett(e)s.

How dare the Hoi Polloi interfere!

Posted by: CyclopsJack at January 14, 2010 01:56 PM (a4o2p)

26 if this were NJ, she'd withdraw and the State Legislature would let another dem run in her place

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 14, 2010 01:57 PM (0GFWk)

27 A law enforcement agent not only stood by and watched as one of her supporters knocked someone to the ground (picture says it all)was in the vicinity when her worker accosted the reporter and demanded, on a public walkway, he show his identification, and not only did she do nothing at the time, she is claiming she saw nothing!
And, in our modern day - women are as good as men and can do anything - why does this weak little victim need a great big man to handle someone ASKING HER A QUESTION, and why should we vote for someone that weak?

Posted by: J at January 14, 2010 01:57 PM (T3/qP)

28 Who cares about this Scot Brown gets extra cheese on his Whopper.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 14, 2010 01:57 PM (SqAkN)

29 Unimaginable.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (F09Uo)

Posted by: Garofalo's Cockroaches at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (J5Hcw)

31 I don't normally develop a prejudicial hatred for the entire voting population of a state. I'm beginning to rethink that.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (AZGON)

32 Coakleys office recommended that Winfield be released on personal recognizance, with no cash bail.

Sweet. You can't even jaywalk in this state without putting your house on the hook for the bail money.

Got the feeling she vast only vollowing orders.

Posted by: I Am Amish Jack at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (IhHdM)

33 So, am I the only one wondering if the girl was hot? Think she may want to see me on webcam?

Posted by: Scott Ritter at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (FWis6)

34 She won a primary?
Nice.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (dQdrY)

35 good lord, what could possibly have motivated this woman to not go after this guy?

Posted by: trailortrash at January 14, 2010 01:58 PM (2Z+7j)

36 This woman is doing the impossible.....making Ted Kennedy look like a stand-up guy.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (YmPwQ)

37 How did she ever even get to run for the Senate seat with this kind of garbage in her record?
For the statist, the acquisition of political power will trump ethics and morality in every instance.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (554T5)

38 Isn't "rent seeking" worse than any other crime to the Left?

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (dQdrY)

39 Scott Brown's wife owns a curling iron... the most expensive one at CostCo.
-----------------
Your info is incorrect. The curling iron was purchased at Sam's Club.
He should withdraw immediately.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (sXLx/)

40 O/T couple of new twitters sorry

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Posted by: TEE866 at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (penrP)

41 In October 2005, a Somerville police officer living in Melrose raped his 23-month-old niece with a hot object, most likely a curling iron. Keith Winfield, then 31, told police he was alone with the toddler that day and made additional statements that would ultimately be used to convict him.
Buddy, that's some sick shit there.

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (OlN4e)

42
That was awful.....

and the article implies theres more..... "that's just the beginning..... stay tuned for part 2.??"

Part 2??? like it gets worse???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (J5Hcw)

43 I know Brown does not want to go negative, but this would be the ad to hit back against her false attack that he opposes emergency contraception for rape victims.

Maybe the next thread could be about Coakley brooming the child molestation charges against pedophile priest Geoghan who went on to molest countless other kids.

http://tinyurl.com/ykyodxr



Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:01 PM (tG+m6)

44 This woman is doing the impossible.....making Ted Kennedy look like a stand-up guy.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 14, 2010 02:00 PM (YmPwQ)

Hold on now, it's not like SHE ever killed anyone?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 14, 2010 02:01 PM (0GFWk)

45 In the end, MA will get the governance it deserves.

They'll probably re-elect Deval Patrick to boot.

Posted by: Techie at January 14, 2010 02:01 PM (zbH+i)

46 And yet she is apparently the cream of the crop in the democratic party of MA

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 14, 2010 02:02 PM (emMe8)

47 On the scale of DemonRat evils, this is nothing.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 02:02 PM (n6iqK)

48 Chucky Johnson will have something to say about this, but I don't give a fuck what it is...

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:02 PM (OlN4e)

49 Maybe not "murder murder", but she certainly seems to have a hand in ruining many lives.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 14, 2010 02:03 PM (YmPwQ)

50 We have clients sitting in jail pending trial for much lesser offenses because of high bail they can't make.

This is bullsh*t.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:03 PM (tG+m6)

51 This reminds me of a idea thatI have for a movie script called "Special Places in Hell"tm. What a piece of shit. Which one you ask? Well both of them actually.

Posted by: Roadking at January 14, 2010 02:03 PM (rtDfV)

52 They'll probably re-elect Deval Patrick to boot.


Posted by: Techie at January 14, 2010 02:01 PM (zbH+i)
You don't read much about MA do you? Deval's approvals are in the low 30's.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:04 PM (tG+m6)

53
Chucky Johnson will have something to say about this, but I don't give a fuck what it is...

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:02 PM (OlN4e)
Nontroversy!Now buy my calendar. After you hit the tip jar.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:04 PM (tG+m6)

54 This is a smear. Let's stick to the issues please. Scott Brown is so rich whenever he is asked "Do you want fries with that" he says yes. Do you really want someone like that representing your state?

Posted by: MA voter at January 14, 2010 02:05 PM (SqAkN)

55 2 brak:
They outsourced the vetting of Coakley to the Obama White House

Posted by: T at January 14, 2010 02:05 PM (z9Awt)

56 I don't know what's worse, letting that cop walk for child rape, or interfering with the release and clemency of an innocent man falsely accused of child molestation.
Either one should be a career ender.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 14, 2010 02:05 PM (F09Uo)

57 Maybe the next thread could be about Coakley brooming the child
molestation charges against pedophile priest Geoghan who went on to
molest countless other kids.

I heard about that too, whats with liberals in the judiciary and their soft spot for pedophiles anyhow? .. Or liberals in Hollywood with their soft spot for pedophiles... hmm. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU LIBERALS!!?

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 14, 2010 02:05 PM (8Vmr4)

58 Coakley ... has made much of her record prosecuting crimes against children
To be fair, 23-month-old people are most commonly thought of as "infants" or "toddlers." When you say "children," I think of kids at least 4 years old.
(Disgressing: That ultraconservative, extreme right-wing, moose-killing wearer of lipstick from Alaska scares people because ... )

Posted by: FireHorse at January 14, 2010 02:06 PM (Vl5GH)

59 Horrible story. I grow weary some days of the things I have learned. Did you notice, however that the original piece is "first in a series". I think BigJournalism is about to do a drip-drip thing leading to the campaign. Smart.

Posted by: Craig McCarthy at January 14, 2010 02:07 PM (TeFUU)

60 If we don't quit talking about Mass. I'm going to turn into a arrogant pretentious prick like the rest of the indigenous back bay bean eating fucktards that live there.
Please, I beg you !

Posted by: Barbarian at January 14, 2010 02:07 PM (EL+OC)

61 Twas a rightly and juste decision this good wife made. One cannot pursue the hand of the Devil if there be no spectral evidence.

Posted by: Cotton Mather at January 14, 2010 02:07 PM (KeOQp)

62 I heard about that too, whats with liberals in the
judiciary and their soft spot for pedophiles anyhow? .. Or liberals in
Hollywood with their soft spot for pedophiles... hmm. WTF IS WRONG WITH
YOU LIBERALS!!?


Posted by: Drew in MO at January 14, 2010 02:05 PM (8Vmr4)
We have a watered-down version of Jessica's law in no small part because of her as well.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:07 PM (tG+m6)

63 I heard about that too, whats with liberals in the judiciary and their soft spot for pedophiles anyhow? .. Or liberals in Hollywood with their soft spot for pedophiles... hmm. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU LIBERALS!!?
SOMEBODY has to get the NAMBLA votes...

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:08 PM (OlN4e)

64 Now buy my calendar. After you hit the tip jar.

He's probably feverishly digging into Brown's "Christianist" roots. Or looking for some white supremacist connection.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 14, 2010 02:08 PM (554T5)

65 I lived in MA for 3+ years and may be moving back soon.

Yes, if MA sends Deval Patrick back to Beacon Hill, it will not surprise me in the least, wretched polling aside.

Posted by: Techie at January 14, 2010 02:08 PM (zbH+i)

66 Honestly, what is wrong with people in Massachusettes (sic)? Is the state so wealthy that it can afford to fuck up repeatedly its civil affairs? Is its demographic composition one third college students, one third members of the Tim Robbins Fan Club, and one third ex-felons?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 14, 2010 02:09 PM (AZGON)

67 Coakley may have imprisoned an innocent family and allowed a child rapist to walk, but Scott Brown has a TIMESHARE!!!!11!!one!!

Posted by: Moonbat 1 at January 14, 2010 02:10 PM (KXhmI)

68 We've all known about this for weeks.

OT When did Erick Erickson become such a whining bitch? First, he puts out that story that Sarah Palin Is "Ruining" Herself by accepting speaking fees for a "Nigerian scammer" Tea Party event that was going to fleece well-meaning idiots and spur an evil third party movement that will destroy the GOP eleventy!!!

Now, he is calling Christianity a cult and comparing Sarah Palin to Jesus and disabling comments. Is he sharing a brain with Charles Johnson these days?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 14, 2010 02:10 PM (Lhn7j)

69 Hmmmm.

Jesus H. Christ!

This reinforces my opinion that:

1. Massachusetts is a shithole.

2. If you want justice then you need a 12 volt car battery, some wires, channel locks, pliers, blowtorch, rope, tape, assorted knives ... and a shovel.

Posted by: memomachine at January 14, 2010 02:10 PM (/+tPT)

70 I heard about that too, whats with liberals in the judiciary and their
soft spot for pedophiles anyhow? .. Or liberals in Hollywood with their
soft spot for pedophiles... hmm. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU LIBERALS!!?


Libs buy into the "if it feels good, do it" mentality. That, and many of them are into weird stuff themselves. That has to be it...

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 02:10 PM (n6iqK)

71 Yes, if MA sends Deval Patrick back to Beacon Hill, it will not surprise me in the least, wretched polling aside.


Posted by: Techie at January 14, 2010 02:08 PM (zbH+i)
Not going to happen. Baker has already raised more money than Deval, Mihos and Cahill combined. He is going to crush Deval.So come on back!

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:11 PM (tG+m6)

72 HOT curling iron. Why is this piece of trash even still alive?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (DIYmd)

73 So ... Coakley prosecutes and jails an innocent person for the most
unbelievable, outrageous stories that anyone with a brain knows to be
untrue, yet she lets off someone who actually committed a crime that
makes normal people cringe when they even hear about it.

Yes. That is, in fact, exactly what happened.

Posted by: JustAnotherBostonian at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (GFaLW)

74 Woo Hoo! Then there may be hope after all! Back to the Cape!

Posted by: Techie at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (zbH+i)

75 Massachusetts is a shithole.

Hey. The people that run this state are shitheads, but it's not a shithole.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (tG+m6)

76 I'll wave to you on my way to the Vineyard.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:13 PM (tG+m6)

77 Was it rape or rape...rape??
just wondering.

Posted by: WHOOOOPIE at January 14, 2010 02:13 PM (pr+up)

78 HOT curling iron. Why is this piece of trash even still alive?


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (DIYmd)
Guarantee you he is living in the prison infirmary.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:13 PM (tG+m6)

79 I guess I take some comfort in the fact that this guy is in for life. Can you imagine - a child molesting cop in prison? Prison justice is harsh but fair.

Posted by: Roadking at January 14, 2010 02:14 PM (rtDfV)

80 Libs buy into the "if it feels good, do it" mentality. That, and many
of them are into weird stuff themselves. That has to be it...

I think you're absolutely right. Self-gratification is the covert cornerstone of liberalism.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 14, 2010 02:15 PM (554T5)

81 anyone remember Scott Ritter and Iraq?

http://tinyurl.com/yjo4c7j

" Scott Ritter, who served as chief weapons inspector in Iraq, told a 15-year-old girl he wanted to have sex with her and also filmed himself carrying out a sex act on a webcam. "

Posted by: austin at January 14, 2010 02:16 PM (p6op4)

82 What the fuck is the deal with the "hot" curling iron?

Raping a child is difficult to fathom at the best of times, and I guess the only explanation is the truthful one, that some people are perversely attracted to children, as difficult as that is to reconcile with a normal person's feelings.

But a hot iron? That's beyond the pale even for a child molester I would have thought.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:16 PM (0fq7b)

83 Let's not rush to judgment before we know all the important facts:

Did a minister vouch for the guy? Did he claim to have found Jesus?

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at January 14, 2010 02:17 PM (MT+0i)

84 Rape with a curling iron..

Posted by: Charles Gibson at January 14, 2010 02:17 PM (qmecx)

85 Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at January 14, 2010 02:17 PM (qmecx)

86 Posted by: austin

Austin, baby. Only Ace is allowed to not read the blog. Already posted.

Posted by: Iskandar at January 14, 2010 02:17 PM (doEqS)

87 Sounds just like the type of person the Democrats are looking for in a replacement for Splash Kennedy.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 14, 2010 02:18 PM (ZQBnQ)

88 Michelle's hair is so pretty. OMG Palin is now on Faux News oh no!! Scott Brown is a Republican, A REPUBLICAN!!1!!!!!

Posted by: MSM at January 14, 2010 02:18 PM (SqAkN)

89 That's hot!

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 14, 2010 02:18 PM (dUOK+)

90 I guess I take some comfort in the fact that this guy is in for life. Can you imagine - a child molesting cop in prison? Prison justice is harsh but fair.
What happens to this subhuman scum in prison can never be bad enough.

Posted by: huerfano at January 14, 2010 02:18 PM (kJLH9)

91 88 Sounds just like the type of person the Democrats are looking for in a replacement for Splash Kennedy.
Kemmedy was so much kinder. He would have used a whiskey bottle.

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:19 PM (OlN4e)

92 This reinforces my opinion that:1. Massachusetts is a shithole.2.
If you want justice then you need a 12 volt car battery, some wires,
channel locks, pliers, blowtorch, rope, tape, assorted knives ... and a
shovel.

Posted by: memomachine at January 14, 2010 02:10 PM (/+tPT)


Quite.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:19 PM (0fq7b)

93 Bam just released a Coakley support video. What a jackass.


http://tiny.cc/s7kIj

Posted by: Barbarian at January 14, 2010 02:20 PM (EL+OC)

94 2. If you want justice then you need a 12 volt car battery, some wires, channel locks, pliers, blowtorch, rope, tape, assorted knives ... and a shovel.
Don't forget a saw, the acid and quicklime!

Posted by: huerfano at January 14, 2010 02:21 PM (kJLH9)

95 "But a hot iron? That's beyond the pale even for a child molester I would have thought.


Posted by: Christoph"

Rape isn't ALWAYS about power... that's just feminist hatred and bullshit. but it's very often about power. It's like beating up a cat when you've lost your job. The more cruelty and suffering you can inflict, the more domination you are demonstrating.

This man utterly dominated that 23 month old baby. He burned her vagina while fucking it with his wife's curling iron. I'm sure he's one of the most pathetic men to ever walk the planet, and was motivated by a need to show some power.

While I wouldn't say he wasn't getting sexual gratification out of it, I think this was a rape of power.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 14, 2010 02:21 PM (dUOK+)

96 Just an FYI for some of the people here. Massachusetts is full of hard working, blue collar, middle class, America loving people. Unfortunately not all of them vote regularly. As a result we constantly lose out to the academics, unions, and kennedy-kerry crowd (as they have all the money).

there are enough of us here to change things, we just haven't been mobilized effectively. the Brown campaign is changing this.

Posted by: JustAnotherBostonian at January 14, 2010 02:22 PM (GFaLW)

97 Kemmedy was so much kinder. He would have used a whiskey bottle.
Kennedy only raped adult waitresses. As far as we know.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 02:22 PM (n6iqK)

98 The police unions have endorsed Brown, sothey aren't on board with Coakley letting the pedophile cop get away with child rape.
Related, I saw some census data awhile back that showed MA is actually losing population, but that loss is being statistically covered up by the large numbers of illegal aliens who move to MA every year. Combine a lot of illegals voting and ACORN and what do you have? Democrats winning every election.

Posted by: Boots at January 14, 2010 02:23 PM (06JTY)

99 No self-respecting individual can vote for Coakley after a story like this. She let this psychotic piece of filth walk?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 14, 2010 02:24 PM (zmiSr)

100 Bam just released a Coakley support video. What a jackass.
http://tiny.cc/s7kIj

Posted by: Barbarian

What's so funny is that this was predictable. Brown's people knew that Obama's cannot resist anyone standing up to them. they are goaded and trolled so easily. Coakley asked Palin to stay out, and Brown asked Obama to stay out. Obama butts in and doesn't even have the balls to name Brown. All part of the idea that Coakley is running for the powerful, and Brown for the people.

We should keep this in mind in 2012. Obama will respond if you tell him not to. He can't help it. He's the won. This is about one vote for one piece of legislation, not getting a person to represent the State. That's Brown's argument.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 02:24 PM (dUOK+)

101 Don't forget a saw, the acid and quicklime!

There's a lot to be said for leaving the carcass on a pike as a warning to others.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 14, 2010 02:24 PM (mR7mk)

102 Massachusetts is under a curse. Remember Salem?

Posted by: Pat Robertson at January 14, 2010 02:25 PM (0aQsc)

103 So Coakley is basically the Democratic version of Dede Scozzafava in terms of overall competence?

Posted by: Ian S. at January 14, 2010 02:25 PM (p05LM)

104
Posted by: Roman Polanski at January 14, 2010 02:21 PM (dUOK+)
As a classy man once said in his 2002 State of the Union Address, "Evil is real and must be opposed."

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:25 PM (0fq7b)

105 Well, these things happen. At least she doesn't own a timeshare.

Posted by: Mindless MAsshole at January 14, 2010 02:25 PM (sey23)

106 It's good that eventually the system sent this man to jail. If he got away with this, it would demand a vigilante response.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 02:26 PM (dUOK+)

107 was watchn fox news anda hot blonde reporter was talking about the USS comfort. Saying: after hurricane Katrina, it took 2.5 days to get the ship to launched to new orleans and that they were trying to beat that.... going on to say the ship will be heading out this weekend... um..... it's already been 2 days since the earthquake, and unless my math is wrong.... dont think they are gonna make that deadline. is it safe to say that barrack obama hates black people?

Posted by: sliderblaze at January 14, 2010 02:26 PM (nlbTu)

108 There's a lot to be said for leaving the carcass on a pike as a warning to others.

Western ranchers still do that with coyotes. Should be done with child molesters as well.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 02:26 PM (n6iqK)

109 Hey in this world it's who you know.

Posted by: bankster at January 14, 2010 02:27 PM (p302b)

110 Don't forget a saw, the acid and quicklime!There's a lot to be said for leaving the carcass on a pike as a warning to others.
I don't know, it worked for me.

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Hoffa at January 14, 2010 02:27 PM (kJLH9)

111
You know, every time I think that we've plumbed the depths of stupidity, a Democrat comes along and proves me wrong.

And yet, she's going to win. Some places are just sinkholes of political imbecility; Cook County, where I live, is one of them, and Massachusett[e]s is another. She has that 'D' next to her name, and that's the only thing that matters.



Posted by: Brown Line at January 14, 2010 02:28 PM (rGpp/)

112 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 14, 2010 01:55 PM (0q2P7)

You too, huh?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 14, 2010 02:29 PM (c/cLy)

113 "Hey. The people that run this state are shitheads, but it's not a shithole."

You've got some hot lady college freshmen, I'll give you that.

(Even if the one I'm thinking about is an "environmental sciences" major.)

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:29 PM (0fq7b)

114 I'll wait for David Brooks to give me the "educated class" take on this story . Cause I really needs me some sophisticated nuance to help me understand why this ex cop shitstain isn't already dead and buried .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 14, 2010 02:29 PM (wb68R)

115 The Brown campaign is on top of things, getting good info. Yesterday, Brown: the prez should stay out of MA. Today: prez records commercial for cocksley, protector of slimy pederasts. Coakley, he says, will be "your voice and my ally."

Hee hee.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 14, 2010 02:30 PM (DIYmd)

116 God reserves a free pass to heavenfor someone who takes out a child rapest

Posted by: sliderblaze at January 14, 2010 02:31 PM (nlbTu)

117 "I don't know much about this case, but what we know is that the baby acted stupidly."

Posted by: Barak Obama at January 14, 2010 02:31 PM (CfmlF)

118 Well OT 'cause I like it here.

Over at HotAir
Poll: Majority would vote against Obama re-election
and this is from the National Journal, not the Bushbot eeeeevil inaccurate (not) Rasmussen.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 14, 2010 02:31 PM (AZGON)

119
2. If you want justice then you
need a 12 volt car battery, some wires, channel locks, pliers,
blowtorch, rope, tape, assorted knives ... and a shovel.

Don't forget a saw, the acid and quicklime!
All you really need is a good stout pole.

Posted by: Vlad Tepis at January 14, 2010 02:32 PM (Nq/UF)

120 Bam just released a Coakley support video. What a jackass.


http://tiny.cc/s7kIj



Posted by: Barbarian at January 14, 2010 02:20 PM (EL+OC)Naturally he makes it about HIM!28 seconds in he has the balls to say real change that would turn back the special interests.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:32 PM (tG+m6)

121 I'll wait for David Brooks to give me the "educated class" take on this story .

I'm waiting for NOW, myself.

Not seriously, of course. I already know that they consider getting a woman into the Senate a higher priority than punishing violent physical rape, even if the victim is a toddler.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 14, 2010 02:32 PM (mR7mk)

122 Hey. The people that run this state are shitheads, but it's not a shithole.
Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:12 PM (tG+m6)
Sounds like my (once) great state: Californ-eye-yea. liberal assholes: wreaking havoc where ever they squat, slither, or crawl

Posted by: Teh Won at January 14, 2010 02:33 PM (8g9qq)

123 28 seconds in he has the balls to say real change that would turn back the special interests.
Jeeze, loppyd. They really do think you guys are stoopid.

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:33 PM (OlN4e)

124 Not seriously, of course. I already know that they consider getting a
woman into the Senate a higher priority than punishing violent physical
rape, even if the victim is a toddler.

Or Afghan women being raped by (non-existent according to Martha) Taliban pigs.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:34 PM (tG+m6)

125 101 Bam just released a Coakley support video. What a jackass.http://tiny.cc/s7kIj Posted by: BarbarianWhat's so funny is that this was predictable. Brown's people knew that Obama's cannot resist anyone standing up to them. they are goaded and trolled so easily. Coakley asked Palin to stay out, and Brown asked Obama to stay out. Obama butts in and doesn't even have the balls to name Brown. All part of the idea that Coakley is running for the powerful, and Brown for the people.We should keep this in mind in 2012. Obama will respond if you tell him not to. He can't help it. He's the won. This is about one vote for one piece of legislation, not getting a person to represent the State. That's Brown's argument.

Bring it Bitches! Like I said in the previous post, PPP says that Coakley's approval rating (50%) is higher than the Bamster (44%) in MA. Can't turn off italics!

Posted by: Barak Obama at January 14, 2010 02:34 PM (CfmlF)

126 Kennedy would only rape toddlers ABOVE the age of two years.
He was a gennelman (hick).

Posted by: TexasJew at January 14, 2010 02:35 PM (dcKUM)

127 Hopefully, that child was young enough that there will be no lasting memory of the event.

And hopefully this cop's cellmate has a 14" dick.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 14, 2010 02:35 PM (5aa4z)

128 Sounds like my (once) great state: Californ-eye-yea. liberal assholes: wreaking havoc where ever they squat, slither, or crawl

Yeah, I hear ya. It frightens me to be in traffic with people here in Clownifornia, knowing how low the common sense quotient is.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 14, 2010 02:35 PM (AZGON)

129 101

We
should keep this in mind in 2012. Obama will respond if you tell him
not to. He can't help it. He's the won. This is about one vote for
one piece of legislation, not getting a person to represent the State.
That's Brown's argument.

Now if we can get the GOP/RNC to catch on...Nah

Posted by: Barbarian at January 14, 2010 02:36 PM (EL+OC)

130 The science is settled, fetuses are NOT people until 2 years of age. So, get off your high horses you right wing nuts. It wasn't rape rape.

Posted by: Whoopie at January 14, 2010 02:36 PM (2gpG5)

131 Martha Coakley is the strong supporter of abor... a woman's right to choose we need in Washington!

Posted by: NOW, Massachusettes Chapter at January 14, 2010 02:36 PM (kJLH9)

132 And hopefully this cop's cellmate has a 14" dick.
I'm sure that he'd get his own cell so he wouldn't be endangered by his previous employment. A real shame.

Posted by: Barak Obama at January 14, 2010 02:37 PM (CfmlF)

133 Curling Iron? Child?

You Americans are so uptight.. what's so wrong with that? Relax. Don't be so Victorian.

Posted by: IreneSophiticatedEuropeanSubwayRiderIrene at January 14, 2010 02:38 PM (lhxhu)

134 And hopefully this cop's cellmate has a 14" dick. hot curling iron.
FIFY

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 14, 2010 02:39 PM (DIYmd)

135
Hopefully, that child was young enough that there will be no lasting memory of the event.

I'm hoping for no lasting tissue damage. Imagine trying to explain that to your daughter when it's time for "the talk." Or trying to explain it to men you're dating.

Vlad's pike might be too kind.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 14, 2010 02:39 PM (mR7mk)

136 Coakley, You. Have Jumped The Corzine...

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 14, 2010 02:40 PM (Hv1Cx)

137 Off topic, but maybe somewhat related:

Scott Ritter caught being Scott Ritter all over again.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:40 PM (0fq7b)

138 Hey. The people that run this state are shitheads, but it's not a shithole."

You've got some hot lady college freshmen, I'll give you that.

(Even if the one I'm thinking about is an "environmental sciences" major.)

------------------------------------------

You know... I hate this state's government, and yes, the majority of people who live here are leftist idiots, but there's a lot to love about this place. And even leftist idiots can be fun people as long as they're not talking politics.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 14, 2010 02:41 PM (z4es9)

139 This Cockslut person sounds like a typical card carrying Liberal. Why the surprise?

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 02:42 PM (dQdrY)

140 Farmer Joe,

You know... I hate this state's government, and yes, the majority of
people who live here are leftist idiots, but there's a lot to love
about this place. And even leftist idiots can be fun people as long as
they're not talking politics.

Each day at lunch, I drive along the ocean and see beauty all around me. I live a stone's through from a harbor in a different town. It's a very beautiful place.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:43 PM (tG+m6)

141 Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 14, 2010 02:41 PM (z4es9)

But, sorry, it's not DC. The hottest place on the planet these days. I mean their property values have held up, not missed a beat. And everyone is employed by the gov't. They are a happy bunch. and look, ma belle even has a garden.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 02:43 PM (p302b)

142
Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:40 PM (0fq7b)
Christoph is really a sockpuppet of ace?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 14, 2010 02:43 PM (5aa4z)

143 According to Howie Carr the other day, iirc, the Cop's father is/was a big Democrat fund raiser.

Look, how do you think a hump like this - the worst possible candidate they could have put up - got the nomination?

Posted by: TheBigOldDog at January 14, 2010 02:45 PM (LPaj6)

144 Speaking of sick bastards. Former chief U.N. weapons inspector and massive lefty douchnozzle Scott Ritter got caught (again) trying to get it on with a child.

Posted by: BrucetTheRobert at January 14, 2010 02:45 PM (3ZwGl)

145 Check out Legal Insurrection.

http://bit.ly/5HDHuW

As they put it...Scott Brown "Hip Checks" Coakley's elitist attitude about standing in the cold and shaking hands by.... releasing a new ad with him standing in the cold and shaking hands.

Pitch-perfect response.


Posted by: Mary Beth at January 14, 2010 02:46 PM (JPEqm)

146 97 Just an FYI for some of the people here. Massachusetts is full of hard working, blue collar, middle class, America loving people. Unfortunately not all of them vote regularly. As a result we constantly lose out to the academics, unions, and kennedy-kerry crowd (as they have all the money).there are enough of us here to change things, we just haven't been mobilized effectively. the Brown campaign is changing this.
Posted by: JustAnotherBostonian at January 14, 2010 02:22 PM (GFaLW)
then for the love of God, I hope you and all other 'decent' Massachusetts voters will be out knocking on doors this weekend asking people to VOTE FOR BROWN

Posted by: Teh Won at January 14, 2010 02:46 PM (8g9qq)

147 Mass is a beautiful place? Well so was Uganda during the rule of Idi Amin.
Jus' sayin'

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:47 PM (OlN4e)

148 Even though I am a west coast girl, I have enjoyed some lovely times in MA, doing touristy things and enjoying the greenness of the place...tramping around Waldens Pond, walking through Louisa May Alcott's home, going to Salem.

I am sorry that it is unrelievedly liberal, but I like your state, loppyd.

You won't hear me trashing your home state. I dislike blanket condemnations of my home state, California.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2010 02:48 PM (0aQsc)

149 Honestly, my view of MA is not good. I wouldn't want to visit. You can't make excuses for a state that would elect teddy so many times and the likes of patrick. There is something wrong there, maybe you just don't see it.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 02:48 PM (p302b)

150 Maybe he was wearing a purple sweater - we know Martha can see a crime being committed by anyone wearing a purple sweater.

Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2010 02:48 PM (tJF9l)

151 There are no words for this kind of evil.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at January 14, 2010 02:48 PM (RZ8pf)

152 Each day at lunch, I drive along the ocean and see beauty all around
me. I live a stone's through from a harbor in a different town. It's
a very beautiful place.

It is. And if you enjoy anything of cultural life (I'm a jazz aficianado, myself, and my GF loves classical music), it's a great place to be. Not to mention all of the historic interest around here.

It's sad that all most people know of this place is how wrongheaded the government is.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 14, 2010 02:48 PM (z4es9)

153 Hopefully, that child was young enough that there will be no lasting memory of the event.And hopefully this cop's cellmate has a 14" dick.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 14, 2010 02:35 PM (5aa4z)

Actually the guy has a golden ticket for prison. He's a former cop AND a Child Molester. He will have his own cell and 24 hour guards for the rest of his life. No one in prison will be allowed to get within 20 feet of him.

Posted by: Rocks at January 14, 2010 02:50 PM (Q1lie)

154 Has anyone posted this YouTube here? I'm lovin it:
http://tinyurl.com/yb2ggrd

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 14, 2010 02:50 PM (Hv1Cx)

155 Hey, it's just an unformed clump of cells incapable of feeling anyreal pain let alone remembering anything. She'll get over it. It's not likethe horror that was inflicted onthe innocentmenwho werecapableof feeling and remembering the crushing, enduringpainassociated with being waterboarded, Celine Dion, sleep deprivation, being humiliated and various other heinous methods of torture just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. George Bush, Don Rumsfeld andDick Cheney should be in prison for the crimes against humanity that they committed in the name of this fake War on Terror. Harrumph.

Posted by: Lefty Moontard at January 14, 2010 02:51 PM (CfmlF)

156 Mass. is definitely a nice place to live. My favorite place in MA is Brewster, but even in Worcester, which is almost always referred to as "gritty" and "blue collar", there are ten colleges, a handful of cool museums, more parks, ponds and fields than I could possibly count, etc. The pols are total hacks of course, and the perpetual gazillion dollar "renewal and investment in downtown" is like a mini-Big Dig, but the people are pretty cool. Even the Libs.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 14, 2010 02:53 PM (rwlcW)

157 Ya know, if enough people keep commenting about Scott Ritter, Ace is going to think it's breaking news and post about it again...

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 14, 2010 02:53 PM (Be4xl)

158 146 Check out Legal Insurrection.http://bit.ly/5HDHuWAs they put it...Scott Brown "Hip Checks" Coakley's elitist attitude about standing in the cold and shaking hands by.... releasing a new ad with him standing in the cold and shaking hands. Pitch-perfect response.

Thanks for posting! That was awesome "I can't do it alone, I need your vote."

Posted by: Lefty Moontard at January 14, 2010 02:53 PM (CfmlF)

159 "You won't hear me trashing your home state. I dislike blanket condemnations of my home state, California."

There's a lot of beautiful places -- and friendly people -- in California.

When I went down there I had a relatively negative view of it from all the gang movies, and Malibu and Hollywood superficiality stereotypes,

And then I went to Santa Maria area and the people were totally friendly.

The cashiers at the local grocery store would all ask for my name and call me it when I came back to shop. That doesn't happen here much!

And I remember walking -- even making love -- on a beach with no one to disturb us as far as the eye could see in either direction, except for a Park's Services helicopter.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:53 PM (0fq7b)

160 My God, that gave me chills.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 02:54 PM (p302b)

161 Sorry Sock!

Posted by: runningrn at January 14, 2010 02:54 PM (CfmlF)

162 Honestly, my view of MA is not good. I wouldn't want to visit. You
can't make excuses for a state that would elect teddy so many times and
the likes of patrick. There is something wrong there, maybe you just
don't see it.

We know exactly what's wrong. A) The state government is very old and has a hardcore entrenched Democrat machine. Now in the old days, a lot of the Dems were DINOs, and very conservative. No so anymore. B) We have a huge number of academic institutions which crank out a huge number of Dem. voters.

Should that keep you from visiting here? Well, that's up to you to decide. Personally, I think you'd be missing out on seeing some very beautiful and interesting sights, but maybe that doesn't mean a lot to you.

As Loppy says, there are a lot of us who'd like to fix it, but we just don't have the numbers or the money at this point.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 14, 2010 02:54 PM (z4es9)

163
Mass is a beautiful place? Well so was Uganda during the rule of Idi Amin.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: maddogg at January 14, 2010 02:47 PM (OlN4e)I work here. It aint ugly.

Posted by: loppyd at January 14, 2010 02:55 PM (tG+m6)

164 Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:53 PM (0fq7b)
That's you on you tube? Those guys from the park service are gifted film makers.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 02:55 PM (p302b)

165 Seriously, how sick does someone have to be to do that to a 23 month old baby? I mean how much does that guy hate women?

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 02:57 PM (p302b)

166 We need to get on Ace for living in NYC. Have everyone say in unison, like the old Pace Picante sauce ad, "New York City?!?!"

As long as we're trashing places and all.

Posted by: Who Knows at January 14, 2010 02:57 PM (0aQsc)

167 "That's you on you tube? Those guys from the park service are gifted film makers."

LOL.

I have no idea if they snapped a few photos, because we got the heck out of there.

Fortunately we had just enough time. For me anyway.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 02:58 PM (0fq7b)

168 Fortunately we had just enough time. For me anyway.

You're a Moron. The second sentence is implied.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 14, 2010 03:00 PM (z4es9)

169 "Seriously, how sick does someone have to be to do that to a 23 month old baby? I mean how much does that guy hate women?"

There really are no words.

I mean one could try own-daughter-torturing, hild-molesting mutilator, sexually raping, less-than-a-man scumbag who should kill himself, instantly, or should be killed by society in a wholly inadequate impulse for justice.

But those words still don't quite rise to the occasion, do they?

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:01 PM (0fq7b)

170 O/T: when is rush going to realize that the administration listens to his show and does what he says? He wasn't even off the air and they were sending out press releases saying exactly what he said they would say.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 03:01 PM (p302b)

171 2. If you want justice then you need a 12 volt car battery, some wires, channel locks, pliers, blowtorch, rope, tape, assorted knives ... and a shovel.
Just give me the pliers and blowtorch and we'll do the rest.......

Posted by: Marcellous Wallace at January 14, 2010 03:01 PM (61BD9)

172 Re: "Fortunately we had just enough time. For me anyway."

"You're a Moron. The second sentence is implied."

Touch.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:02 PM (0fq7b)

173 I heard Scott brown drinks domestic beer!

Heathen.

Posted by: DLew at January 14, 2010 03:02 PM (ZgDr3)

174 Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:01 PM (0fq7b)

Stuff like this is worrisome. A breakdown in society occurs when the young and innocent are not fully protected. when you play politics with stuff like this well there are no words really, just astonishment.

Posted by: curious at January 14, 2010 03:03 PM (p302b)

175 Heh! Slightly off topic, but Hotair has a link to Newsweek reporting that male on male sexual harrassment is on the rise (no pun intended!) 6 plaintiffs received a settlement from, wait for it--The Cheesecake Factory! You cannot make this stuff up!

Posted by: runningrn at January 14, 2010 03:03 PM (CfmlF)

176 I like the idea of crucifying these folks. The old ways are the best.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 03:05 PM (dQdrY)

177 "Stuff like this is worrisome. A breakdown in society occurs when the
young and innocent are not fully protected. when you play politics
with stuff like this well there are no words really, just astonishment."

I agree this is an uncommonly terrible case, although I think this is not the only example of where the young and innocent children in our society aren't fully protected.

In my opinion, a particular special case of violent sexual abuse of children is institutionalised in our North American society, and occurs in a (fortunately, rapidly diminishing) majority of cases with male children, out of simple ignorance, illogical arguments, and misleading propaganda.

At least it isn't intended maliciously or for sexual gratification. (If anything, to reduce sexual gratification.)

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:07 PM (0fq7b)

178 168 We need to get on Ace for living in NYC.
NYC?!?!? Ok, I guess that explains a lot.

Posted by: teej at January 14, 2010 03:08 PM (c459z)

179 If someone gets me a plane ticket and proof of his actions, I'll fly out there and kill this scumbag with my bare hands.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 14, 2010 03:08 PM (PQY7w)

180 Whoops: I wrote the niece was 23-years-old. Of course she was 23 months old. Brain fart.

Yeah, not so sure that is a brain fart considering the reality is incomprehensible.

Posted by: InCali at January 14, 2010 03:10 PM (u1OeY)

181 This just makes me sick.

Posted by: soulpile at January 14, 2010 03:11 PM (gH+Hj)

182 Christoph, you're an idiot.

Posted by: s'moron at January 14, 2010 03:13 PM (p1s9n)

183 At least it isn't intended maliciously or for sexual gratification. (If anything, to reduce sexual gratification.)
Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:07 PM (0fq7b)
Somehow I don't think circumcision is comparable. You can't be serious.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 03:16 PM (dQdrY)

184 #172-Rush learned it about 20 yrs or so ago. Thus explainingwhy he says what he says. The poutrage of the libtards is what gives him wood.

Posted by: di butler/murderous bitch at January 14, 2010 03:16 PM (S3xX1)

185 Christoph, you're an idiot.
And in other news, the sun is hot.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 03:20 PM (n6iqK)

186 "Somehow I don't think circumcision is comparable. You can't be serious."

No, they're not comparable. One is far worse because of the evil intent.

I was responding specifically to curious's comment:

"Stuff like this is worrisome. A breakdown in society occurs when the
young and innocent are not fully protected."

... with which I agree, and was pointing out another example of how society can improve.

And is. Slowly.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:21 PM (0fq7b)

187 ... with which I agree, and was pointing out another example of how society can improve.And is. Slowly.
Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:21 PM (0fq7b)
Well, that make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Like a hot curling iron..

Posted by: TexasJew at January 14, 2010 03:34 PM (dcKUM)

188 ... with which I agree, and was pointing out another example of how society can improve.And is. Slowly.
Too slowly- you're still an idiot.
But hey- did you hear that every day thousands of children are stabbed against their will with sharp, hollow steel spikes at hospitals nationwide? The horror.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 14, 2010 03:35 PM (rf03a)

189 Christoph, you're nuttier than a fruitcake, but I hope that you continue to post here.

Posted by: A Casual Observer at January 14, 2010 03:37 PM (ITzbJ)

190 Will Obama now have a "recovered memory" of his evil white grandparents hiding his Afro comb?

Posted by: TexasJew at January 14, 2010 03:37 PM (dcKUM)

191 Christoph,

If you ever find a woman dumb enough to marry you, do the world a favor and don't have kids.

Posted by: s'moron at January 14, 2010 03:39 PM (p1s9n)

192 ... with which I agree, and was pointing out another example of how society can improve.And is. Slowly.
Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:21 PM (0fq7b)
We protect the young? Shirley, you jest.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 03:39 PM (dQdrY)

193 "But hey- did you hear that every day thousands of children are stabbed against their will with sharp, hollow steel spikes at hospitals nationwide? The horror."

That bothers me too, more than you realize.

I would love to be able to change that. In fact, I think we should change both.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:40 PM (0fq7b)

194 I read the article in the Boston Globe, Jan 6 2010 edition.
The little girl was treated in a burn center for one month. Evidently she had suffered third degree burns, her skin was peeling and bleeding. And her adult dating life will be no picnic - victims of severe abuse often have difficult sex lives, even if they don't consciously recall the attack.
And Martha Coakley, (Democrat champion of the female, protectress of the defenseless child), was in no hurry to prosecute the monster that inflicted this life-long horror on that little toddler. It really is nauseating.
And she has the gall to air an ad whose message is: Scott Brown Hates Women.

Posted by: kallisto at January 14, 2010 03:40 PM (+FkcS)

195 Christoph, you're nuttier than a fruitcake, but I hope that you continue to post here.

Posted by: A Casual Observer at January 14, 2010 03:37 PM (ITzbJ)


Speak for yourself, you dumbass troll.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 03:43 PM (n6iqK)

196 Circumcision is not harmful. That's why so many people live their lives with the effects of it and don't understand Christoph's opposition. It's a religious tradition that increases hygiene and has a proven medical benefit.

It's not just better than raping a 23 month old with a curling iron because of intent. It really doesn't hurt people. Gay men hate it because they are often disgusting people. I know that's an intolerant thing to express, but it's true. It's a filthy part of our anatomy that requires constant work (and even then is less hygenic).

If it's bad, it's bad in a trivial way. Causes no damage. But assholes bring it up in reference to FGM, or rape, or this atrocity about the baby. Why? They are utterly incomparable. You might as well point out that some parents feed their kids unhealthy cereal for breakfast (which is worse than circumcising their penis, of course).

'That dude raped a baby'!

'Yeah, and some people give kids Cocoa Puffs!'

'You're an idiot.'

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 03:45 PM (dUOK+)

197 Are any of you sure this Coakley isn't really from IL and running illegallly in MA?

'cause she sure sounds like a member of the species Prosecutoria Illiana corruptae to me.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 14, 2010 03:47 PM (5/yRG)

198 Two words in defense of the dumb fucks from Mass: Pennsylvania, California.

Posted by: Pelvis at January 14, 2010 03:48 PM (LlaBi)

199 "Circumcision is not harmful."

It is not only harmful, it is immoral.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:50 PM (0fq7b)

200 Hatchet, in the words of a famous philosopher; "Up yours, dimwit." (That's a direct quotation.))

Posted by: A Casual Observer at January 14, 2010 03:51 PM (ITzbJ)

201 To be clear, I think a good person can perform an act which is immoral, when acting under false precepts.

The cop gets no such pass.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:54 PM (0fq7b)

202 It is not only harmful, it is immoral.
Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 03:50 PM (0fq7b)
Speaking as a circumcised male, I disagree. Dick cheese is not something I covet. To each their own.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 03:59 PM (dQdrY)

203 Hey Christoph, Do you have children. I bet not since you are comparing and equating circumcision to raping a 23 month toddler. You have no clue. And if you do have kids, I feel sorry for them as your priorities are so fucked

Posted by: parent at January 14, 2010 04:00 PM (eV1I0)

204 Speak for yourself, you dumbass troll.
Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 14, 2010 03:43 PM (n6iqK)

You think he's sane 'cause you're as nutty as he is.

Posted by: Hatchet's psychiatrist at January 14, 2010 04:01 PM (ITzbJ)

205 Wow, news is a crappy, crooked prosecutor running for office let a child molesting, sadist scumbag off the hook (and ran an attack ad against her opponent stating he hated women...I think Brown should run one using this tidbit stating that he at least likes kids well enough to protect them..do it guys, it must be done) -- and the conversation turns to circumcision.
I think circumcisions are not the equivalent of rape or abortion (certainly nothing is getting killed here, except some skin cells), but for that matter unless the foreskin is too tight and/or the child won't be receiving proper hygeine or instruction in the same it really isn't a necessary practice (if it's a religious choice, then so be it).

Posted by: unknown jane at January 14, 2010 04:01 PM (5/yRG)

206 If Cristoph could come up with an argument why circumcision is more immoral than feeding your kids sugary cereal, I'd listen. I don't think he can.

It's PROVEN to save lives. Cristoph says it's immoral, but that's his whole argument. No reasoning, just conclusion.

why is it immoral to save people from AIDS and other STDs? Why is it immoral to prevent infections? Why isn't it simply a choice that is not required or forbidden by morality? According to Christoph, it just is.

Sex with a circumcised penis is enjoyable enough, believe me. I'm 100% GRATEFUL that I was circumcised when I wouldn't remember it. I would happily choose this option if it were logically possible. Most circumcised people agree with me, since they do the same to their sons.

There is nothing immoral about it. What is immoral, of course, if Cristoph telling people they shouldn't practice hygiene or religion when he disagrees with them, but no one is harmed.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:04 PM (dUOK+)

207 "unless the foreskin is too tight and/or the child won't be receiving
proper hygeine or instruction in the same it really isn't a necessary
practice (if it's a religious choice, then so be it)"

You know, medical journal disagree with you.

Sure, if everyone ALWAYS practices constant hygiene here, it's not necessary. Even if they don't, it's not necessary. It simply leads to a much more hygienic person, with or without hygienic action, and saves lives.

You argument isn't sound. It's a smart preventative measure that is not immoral. It's a valid choice for adults to make, knowing their sons will enjoy sex and be cleaner, and perhaps follow a religious tradition. Many smart preventative measures are not necessary. So what, though? Circumcision is still a good thing.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:08 PM (dUOK+)

208 "why is it immoral to save people from AIDS and other STDs?"

Assuming I buy there is a clear-cut relationship, and the science is not as clear as you think, does a child get AIDS and STDs?

No.

This is what happens when an adult or adolescent becomes sexually active. Let them make the decision for themselves.

"I bet not since you are comparing and equating circumcision to raping a 23 month toddler."

You are a flat out liar.

Posted by: Christoph at January 14, 2010 04:08 PM (0fq7b)

209 If I were saying "everyone must get clipped", that would be different.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:08 PM (dUOK+)

210 Can stem cells be retrieved from a circumcized foreskin? Whoa, would that be a money-maker for Jewish doctors.

Posted by: Hatchet's psychiatrist at January 14, 2010 04:09 PM (ITzbJ)

211 "I bet not since you are comparing and equating circumcision to raping a 23 month toddler."You are a flat out liar.

You brought it up in this thread, as an obvious comparison to the topic of this thread. How is something like harmless hygiene relevant in a story about true immorality? It's not.

If someone said 'And it's also bad that people feed their kids cocoa puffs' when the topic is horrible abuse, they would be making a ridiculously offtopic comparison.

Perhaps you didn't make it explicit, though you do say it's immoral and harmful without explaining why. I don't think you understand that words have meaningin context. You are saying it here because you think circumcision is relevant to raping babies. You did this, not me.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:10 PM (dUOK+)

212 See, I'm not telling everyone to choose to get their kids clipped. I'm not the one preaching intolerance and making grandiose claims of harm or immorality that don't exist.

I enjoy sex quite a bit. In fact, it's probably much, much, much better thanks to my being circumcised, since I probably can have sex for longer durations.

That's pretty irrelevant. I enjoy sex a lot, either way. It's simply not harmful either way. Saying it changes sex a little is admitting it's not harmful. And saying it affects sex a little, but dramatically increases sexual hygiene, mean's it's more than nonharmful, it's reducing harm.

I've looked into the matter. Women like giving BJs to people who are clipped. this BJ bonus is non trivial too.

But let's put this sexual result in context. It saves lives from AIDS. I'm less comfortable wearing a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, but it saves lives. I'm less comfortable wearing a seatbelt, but it saves lives.

If circumcision provides some limitation on comfort or pleasure (bs, but whatever), and saves lives, it is not immoral or harmful. It's just parenting.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:19 PM (dUOK+)

213 and of course, it is tremendously douchey, like calling DRJ a cunt or something, to bring it up in this context. You'd have to be a very confused person to do it.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:20 PM (dUOK+)

214 Your post 179 brings up to topic:

"I agree this is an uncommonly terrible case, although I think this is
not the only example of where the young and innocent children in our
society aren't fully protected.

In my opinion, a particular special case of violent sexual abuse of
children is institutionalised in our North American society, and occurs
in a (fortunately, rapidly diminishing) majority of cases with male
children, out of simple ignorance, illogical arguments, and misleading
propaganda."

You state that raping a 23 month old is one example and go one to say that circucising boys is another example.

What would you call it?

Posted by: parent at January 14, 2010 04:33 PM (eV1I0)

215 Anyone bringing circumcision into a thread about child rape, to point it out as additional information about the topic, is obviously a freak, an idiot, and probably far more obsessed than I'll ever be about much of anything.

So yeah, those nuts will obviously get the last word on every thread about it. They bring it up here, because they have no ability to determine right from wrong. It's not on topic here, unless you're truly demented. Even people who think this is a useless operation should know it's totally unrelated to raping a baby or FGM. It's like giving your kid a donut or a never telling him to brush his teeth for a whole month. It's insignificant. which is why it's so hard to care as much as someone who actually thinks it's immoral.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:35 PM (dUOK+)

216 Parent @ 216 wins the argument, hands down, and is much more succinct than I am. I didn't care enough to write a shorter rebuttal.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:36 PM (dUOK+)

217 Christoph,

What the fuck have I told you ten times?

Posted by: ace at January 14, 2010 04:39 PM (Fue76)

218 It is always weird to read comments on threads like this where lots of folks call for the guy's painful death, and it just sails by.
But, Tiller?
His execution is the height of evil. I don't get it.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 04:41 PM (dQdrY)

219 OokOok,

I think abortion is murder. But raping a 23 month old baby is distinctly and specially wrong, while abortion is often rationalized (I disagree with those rationalizations, but it's not even conceivable that anyone could rationalize the curling iron rape).

Abortion is a political issue. It's bullshit that it's been taken away as a political issue by a few judges, but even if it were up to voters, some places would allow the thing to occur. Does that make it OK? Nope. but it makes it different.

I dunno. I think Tiller's special case meant that people going to him wouldn't have been able to go elsewhere. but murdering him in a church? I'm not OK with that either. It's one of those touch grey areas of morality. If you really think abortion is murder, which so many do, then how do you not agree with violently stopping abortion? And yet many don't.

I suppose it's just one of those rules we arbitrarily place in society because we all benefit from settling these things without violence. I don't want someone shooting W or recruiters, for example.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 04:50 PM (dUOK+)

220 This discussion about circumcision is very enlightening. Until now, I never knew what I was missing.

Posted by: Hatchet's psychiatrist at January 14, 2010 04:53 PM (ITzbJ)

221 Rape is worse than murder? I didn't know that.

Posted by: OokOok at January 14, 2010 05:00 PM (dQdrY)

222 220 -- How about I'd like to see the child molester here serve an appropriate sentence and Roeder do so as well?
Wigglesworth -- wtf man??? In fact, wtf to why this thread turned into a debate on the pros and cons of circumcision (and why abortion got mentioned again?).

Posted by: unknown jane at January 14, 2010 05:13 PM (5/yRG)

223 Rape is worse than murder? I didn't know that.

Posted by: OokOok

I'm not pretending you don't have a point.

I do in fact think this rape is worse than murder. That's something many people won't agree with, but I think everyone can understand why I would think that. But that wasn't my full argument. My argument was that abortion is an issue that we don't want settled by violence. We don't want basic political and philosophical disagreements settled by murdering the other side. Be it, military recruiters are baby killers or whatever the left's lunatics think, and abortionists are murderers, we want to settle these things within civil discourse.

If a baby rapist was able to evade justice, that's not a philosophical political disagreement, and violence makes at least a bit more sense. It's not that Coakley and friends thought this guy was innocent... he was just part of their political club.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 05:16 PM (dUOK+)

224
"Wigglesworth -- wtf man??? In fact, wtf to why
this thread turned into a debate on the pros and cons of circumcision
(and why abortion got mentioned again?).

Posted by: unknown jane"

I think it's banal to point out that this rape was wrong. It's inevitable that we'll discuss other stuff. If you're WTFing me repeatedly arguing with an idiot, you have a valid ding on me. I just got annoyed. I usually ignore that kind of thing, but this thread wasn't really harmed by it... there wasn't much of a thread left.

This kind of heinous crime, and the possibility of someone committing it and going free thanks to corruption, inevitably brings up vigilante responses. Not sure why you'd WTF that. Abortion is recently relevant to that.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 05:19 PM (dUOK+)

225 It was more the riff off into the pros and cons of circumcision that had me wtf-ing. (the abortion issue I'm pretty much done with for now -- I'm tapped out on that topic, but go ahead and roll on proud mary, if you so desire...but the circumcision thing boggled me a bit)

Posted by: unknown jane at January 14, 2010 05:28 PM (5/yRG)

226 yeah, it's a silly thing to argue about. I just got annoyed, and hassling me over it isn't unjustified.

Posted by: Wigglesworth at January 14, 2010 05:44 PM (dUOK+)

227 Okay, I have more of the story. The Bastard's Father was/is a Teamster Boss Democrat fund raiser. He bought his kid a couple of years until they were forced to prosecute and but the animal away for life.

Posted by: TheBigOldDog at January 14, 2010 05:52 PM (LPaj6)

228 229 -- Gets better and better (or worse and worse); I say run with it since Coakley brought up the "hates women" meme (spit). No mercy for the bag holding cow (with apologies to real bovines).

Posted by: unknown jane at January 14, 2010 06:35 PM (5/yRG)

229 I read it and still can't believe it.

did Christoph really compare the rape of a 23 month old baby to circumcision?

The rape with a hot curling iron, no less.


Posted by: Dave C at January 14, 2010 07:42 PM (qmecx)

230 I have a 21 month old neice, the sweetest littlebaby. This story makes me want to vomit.

Posted by: Donna V. at January 14, 2010 08:53 PM (hDxQn)

231 Circumcision, child rape with a hot iron, Enron, Bush, it is all equally evil. That would explain why Chris has the perfect candidate in Croakley. He can cry about circumcision and be totally indifferent to a child scared for life.

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233 The pervert rapist's dad was a big campaign conributor and famous democrat power broker. get some Vagisil for the stinking cooter Coakley. I can smell that disgusting democrat from 2000 miles away. Her turdbrain plus the crotch stench remind me of a Kennedy.

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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat