Shock: Puddle-Headed Liberal Joan Walsh of Salon Finds Criticism of Obama "Traitorous"

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism, except between January 20, 2009, and January 18, 2013.

Remember when dissent was supposed to be patriotic? Well, it seems that only applies when a Republican is president. Now that Barack Obama is in the White House, criticism of him is "un-American" and "traitorous." This new "tolerant" view of dissent comes from Joan Walsh of Salon.Com as you can see in this Hardball video from Wednesday. Below is the Walsh money quote but please be sure to also watch the video since it is important to watch as she drops any facade of liberal tolerance and lets her true dogmatic soul reveal itself in both her face and voice which seems to border on dementia:


The climate right now is that Republicans use everything they can to undermine and delegitimize this president. And its actually un-American. Its traitorous, in my opinion. Do you want to give aid and comfort to our enemies? Continue to treat this president like he wasnt elected and he doesnt know what hes doing! He knows what he did. He knows what hes doing. Im proud of him. I believe that he has the stalwart, resolute nature to get this done...

Video at the link.

Traitorous? Really? To quote this for the hundredth time, here is Gary Kamiya, writing in Joan Walsh's Salon webzine, soon after the fall of Baghdad:

I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong. Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen. I'm not alone: A number of serious, intelligent, morally sensitive people who oppose the war have told me they have had identical feelings.

Some of this is merely the result of pettiness--ignoble resentment, partisan hackdom, the desire to be proved right and to prove the likes of Rumsfeld wrong, irritation with the sanitizing, myth-making American media. That part of it I feel guilty about, and disavow. But some of it is something trickier: It's a kind of moral bet-hedging, based on a pessimism not easy to discount, in which one's head and one's heart are at odds.

Many antiwar commentators have argued that once the war started, even those who oppose it must now wish for the quickest, least-bloody victory followed by the maximum possible liberation of the Iraqi people. But there is one argument against this: What if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative--four more years of Bush, for example, with attendant disastrous policies, or the betrayal of the Palestinians to eternal occupation, or more imperialist meddling in the Middle East or elsewhere?

Wishing for things to go wrong is the logical corollary of the postulate that the better things go for Bush, the worse they will go for America and the rest of the world.

So, if I have this right, wishing for greater numbers of US war dead is "patriotic," and criticizing Obama for screwing up everything he does -- something that already has a bodycount associated with it -- is "traitorous."

Ohhhkay.

Via this guy right here.

BTW I am so hung over.

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM



Comments

1 Happy F'ing New Year.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at January 01, 2010 03:32 PM (JdbYk)

2 "Patriotism" is a big word. Not to be used by little minds.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 01, 2010 03:33 PM (f4sLg)

3 I blame Bush .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 01, 2010 03:33 PM (vKdhq)

4 It's only treasonous if you're a Marxist or
communist. If you're a lover of freedom and liberty it's appropriate and necessary.

Posted by: rplat at January 01, 2010 03:34 PM (G1ArL)

5
We all remember the "Hillary Meal".. small breasts and big thighs.

Now, KFC has announced an addition to their chicken dinners..

It's called the Obama Cabinet Bucket... It consists of nothing but left wings and assholes.

Is that "Treasonous"?

Posted by: sickinmass at January 01, 2010 03:34 PM (Dxfei)

6 Up is down. Hot is cold. Black is ... racist.
Walsh is an amoral scrunt.

Posted by: huerfano at January 01, 2010 03:34 PM (9szrE)

7 So critisizing BUSH was FREE SPEECH but pritisizing OBAMA is treason? And comming from some liberal ding-bat

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at January 01, 2010 03:35 PM (QaN+5)

8 Small words from a small woman going out to a microscopic audience.

A big, fat MEH.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 01, 2010 03:36 PM (9Cooa)

9
Funny, I seem to remember the left doing the exact same thing for eight years that when Bush was president and so far no conservative to my knowledge has written a book or filmed a movie fantasizing about this presidents death.

Oh yea, I forgot, back then dissent was patriotic.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 03:36 PM (t72+4)

10 Should that be 2013?

Posted by: right at January 01, 2010 03:37 PM (EquV1)

11 Heh Ace. Fuck you and your hangover! Yeh! I'm Prezit 4-evah!!!

Posted by: Obama at January 01, 2010 03:38 PM (GfYt/)

12 Hangover's are for the weak.


- just sayin'

Posted by: Terry at January 01, 2010 03:39 PM (ddL+W)

13 He knows what hes doing. Im proud of him.

Yeah, I hear he's taken a full eighth-stroke off his golf handicap.

B+.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 01, 2010 03:40 PM (Rtdhx)

14 Small words from a small woman going out to a microscopic audience.
You're right. Hardball. Fifty-eight thousand viewers.

Posted by: huerfano at January 01, 2010 03:40 PM (9szrE)

15

BTW I am so hung over.



Hair 'o the dog ace, hair 'o the dog.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 03:40 PM (t72+4)

16 Joan Walsh will soon be pounding on my door. Wonder if I'll be waterboarded first. Nah, that's what torturing 'thughlicans do. Ok, maybe the gas chamber.

Posted by: St. Agnostica at January 01, 2010 03:41 PM (gbCNS)

17 The problem with calling her hypocritical in her belief of what's "treasonous" and "patriotic" is you really need to specify the country first.

Posted by: AD at January 01, 2010 03:43 PM (klmIv)

18 BTW I am so hung over.
Damn, Ace, if only you could have read these words of wisdom from a famed and much-beloved blogger:

So everyone chill, drink very slowly, alternate drinks with
glasses of water (and nurse both), because you probably will end up
drinking too much anyway, and it's better to drink as little too much
as possible.

Ah, never mind. Glad you had fun and hope it involved sweaty nakedness.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 03:43 PM (9Wv2j)

19
This was on Hardball so about three people even saw it when it originally aired.

How the hell does Matthews even keep his job with under 60,000 viewers? More people tune into watch drag queen mud wrestling and midget bowling over on ESPN 8, The Ocho.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 03:44 PM (t72+4)

20 dissent in time of war is treason !! During wartime we must all support the POTUS.

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 01, 2010 03:45 PM (mhD2v)

21 You can almost hear her yearning to get the pogroms started.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 01, 2010 03:45 PM (Rtdhx)

22 The problem with calling her hypocritical in her belief of what's
"treasonous" and "patriotic" is you really need to specify the country
first.

Exactly.

Her bleating about "aid and comfort" is especially pukeworthy, since Obama is doing an excellent job of giving aid and comfort to America's enemies, like full protection of US law for non-citizens and unlawful combatants.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 01, 2010 03:47 PM (Rtdhx)

23 But isn't patriotism naive? Does the left want me to be patriotic now? I thought that patriotism was the last refuge of the scoundrel. It must be confusing to be a liberal.

Posted by: 4thGenerationBuck at January 01, 2010 03:49 PM (oxLDq)

24 This just in:
Joan Walsh is a skank biscuit. Meet the newself appointed bottom wiper andalpha bintfor President present. Free Kool-aid for all.

Posted by: Woger Wabbit at January 01, 2010 03:49 PM (x0suh)

25 she asks, 'do you want to give aid and comfort to our enemies?'

no.
o is one of our enemies. he is the traitor.

Posted by: nyc redneck at January 01, 2010 03:49 PM (rAiWV)

26 Happy New Years MM's,

I've got this scrunts treason.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 01, 2010 03:49 PM (nmfvn)

27 Punishment for treasonous mofos will be making their TVs tune in to only MSNBC.

Posted by: St. Agnostica at January 01, 2010 03:50 PM (gbCNS)

28 If this be treason, make the most of it.

Posted by: Ken at January 01, 2010 03:50 PM (rQI8i)

29 (Say like "Dyn-no-mite!"):

Hyo-Po-Crite!

Posted by: GregInSeattle at January 01, 2010 03:51 PM (B5cM9)

30 This is why I can never, ever listen to or trust a liberal EVER.

Posted by: CDR M at January 01, 2010 03:52 PM (cvmTR)

31

Obama could use some lessons from this guy.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 03:52 PM (t72+4)

32 I never heard this "Dissent is patriotic"idea from theLeft during the Bush years.

Posted by: Beltway Bob Gibbs at January 01, 2010 03:52 PM (8n1j5)

33 Do you want to give aid and comfort to our enemies?

As nyc redneck notes above, the reason we are critical is that a thinking person has no rational alternative to viewing Barry as one of the most dangerous enemies of America and our way of life ever.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 03:53 PM (9Wv2j)

34 BTW I am so hung over.
And how is the dog? [See headline thread.]

Posted by: andycanuck at January 01, 2010 03:55 PM (2qU2d)

35 Joan Walsh is just upset because her vag smells like a giant carp-kill and Google can't help her.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 01, 2010 03:55 PM (VGeGl)

36 Ya know...the really fucking freaky thing about this is that no doubt her opinion is shared by quite a few on the far left....which coincidentally is who is running our government... who would have no problem locking people up for criticizeng Barky.
If you think it's too far-fetched to think that no law enforcement agency would do Barky's bidding, I'll remind you to go back and look at the statements by the St. Louis County Sheriff and Attorney, and St Louis Circuit Attorney back during the election.

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 01, 2010 03:57 PM (AnTyA)

37
52% percent of American voters gave aid and comfort to our enemies just by voting this guy in.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 03:57 PM (t72+4)

38 Ace. Dude. You can't use logic and reason when dealing with the Left. They never took Logic 101. When you say "logical fallacy" they might smile and nod, but there's no connection between those words with any concept happening behind their eyes.

Leftards are the Liberal Arts Majors (bless their pointy little heads!) of the adult world.

Posted by: Randy Rager at January 01, 2010 03:57 PM (x6dJS)

39 Oh, snap. Fox is reporting that some Dems are now joining the "Fire Janet Now" crowd.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 03:57 PM (9Wv2j)

40 Old and busted: "I hope Obama fails."
New Hotness: "I hope Obama's system works"

Posted by: SarahW at January 01, 2010 03:58 PM (CSrvi)

41 And yes, evil Rethuglican DeMint is holding up his virtuous union thug appointee for the TSA which caused the underwear bomber to infiltrate our airlines.

Evil Rethuglicans also caused him to used his position with the FBI to get San Diego police records on his exs boyfriend. He was censured for that. Another case ofg what if he was Republican. Instead of trying to get him promoted to a higher position they would be screaming to fire him and prosecute him.

What havent heard about this on the news???? Hahahahaha

H/T Volukh

Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2010 03:59 PM (QrA9E)

42
The more these folks bleat and call us racists and traitors the more they let us know that we are winning and they are failing miserably, so stuff like this is actually very comforting to me.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:02 PM (t72+4)

43 people, this but another example of a specific, peculiar pathology among leftists. they do it all the time. i don't know the term, projection or transference or something. they not only have no memory or self-awareness of their hypocrisy, but actually sublimate and act out some mirror reverse reality of the political past. any psychologists out there?

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 04:02 PM (Ibk1S)

44 In defense of her warped opinion....she most likely does see dissent from O's magical mystery tour as treasonous. You see, we are no longer the America we all grew up in. We are marxist/socialist and we conservatives are not being loyal to that ideology. I doubt this commie beyotch believes in liberty & freedom, founding fathers, apple pie and all things red, white and blue.

Posted by: Twinks at January 01, 2010 04:02 PM (LeFbD)

45 "I believe that he has the stalwart, resolute nature to get this done..."

Joan Walsh -- bringing teh funneh!

Posted by: Teh Won at January 01, 2010 04:02 PM (6DDE+)

46 Jonathan Alter was on MSNBC this morning with Shuster saying the same thing. Of course Shuster had to take it to another level and suggest Cheney was suffering from a mental disorder.

It's almost as if they have a coordinated strategy.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 01, 2010 04:02 PM (VW9/y)

47 "BTW I am so hung over."

Ditto.

And this is so fucking disgusting:

"I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded,
secretly wished for things to go wrong. Wished for the Iraqis to be
more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise
up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen."

I mean, what can one say other than what you said, Ace? He thinks it's traitorous to criticize the American president within a democracy, but wishes the enemy success in war and battle against American troops.

Why the fuck is he not being forced to resign?

There's GOT to be liberal parents that ain't down with their magazine editor wishing the enemy Godspeed.

Posted by: Christoph at January 01, 2010 04:04 PM (0fq7b)

48 When the Rosenbergs are calling you a traitor, consider that a compliment.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:05 PM (dcKUM)

49 It's almost as if they have a coordinated strategy.

Anyone been checking Journolist lately?

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 01, 2010 04:05 PM (89RxY)

50 The more the things change, the more they stay the same.

Liberal logic: non-existent in 2009

Liberal logic: non-existent in 2010

Posted by: shibumi at January 01, 2010 04:05 PM (OKZrE)

51 Wait a minute...

I thought W was illegitimate.

No one is saying that about BO; he's just incompetent, and naive.

Keep your echo chamber meme consistent lady!

Posted by: Beorn at January 01, 2010 04:06 PM (Ny3hI)

52 Fear takes many forms.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:06 PM (Cctty)

53 Okay, I misunderstood. The above wasn't a Walsh quote, just something he allowed to be published.

I stand corrected. A magazine should be allowed to publish wacko leftist views, even though we'd hope their editors don't overtly agree with them and, ideally, disagree vehemently.

But Walsh's point that criticizing Obama is treason is, naturally, nuts.

Posted by: Christoph at January 01, 2010 04:09 PM (0fq7b)

54 These are the same people who think late term abortion is a right, but that capital punishment should be outlawed. Logic cannot work with people like that.

It has been said so many times before: Liberalism is a mental illness.

Posted by: lan sing at January 01, 2010 04:11 PM (cEOZd)

55
I get it.

When Cindy Sheehan wished she could travel back in time and kill Bush in his crib that was extreme patriotism.

When those liberal film makers made that faux documentary about Bush being assasinated that was extreme patriotism.

When the Bill maher and a lot on the left cheered the guy who set off the truck bomb at Bagram airbase trying to take out Cheney that was extreme patriotism.

Opposing a guy who wants to fundamentally transform our country into an outright Marxist regime: Treason

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:11 PM (t72+4)

56 It's actually rather amusing to hear any liberal/leftist talk about moral anything, as they wouldn't know what a moral was if it bit them on the ass. Although, any self-respecting moral wouldn't lower itself that far!

Posted by: candy at January 01, 2010 04:12 PM (JvK/q)

57 It's not often the pot and the kettle are the same person.
The only other time I've heard of this is Clark Kent and Superman.

Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at January 01, 2010 04:12 PM (F8sIP)

58 My own personal hope is that each and every one of these clowns someday get their own up-close-and-personal tutorial on treason.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 01, 2010 04:12 PM (554T5)

59 not hung over... just hung

Posted by: sliderblaze at January 01, 2010 04:12 PM (nlbTu)

60 Vile scabrous bint.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 01, 2010 04:13 PM (mi3Vg)

61

BTW I am so hung over.

Ace: the best hangover cure is healthy vegetables.

And the healthiest vegetable of all is the stalk of celery in your Bloody Mary.

Posted by: Tinian at January 01, 2010 04:14 PM (7+pP9)

62 They need their own country.

Exile them to Maine. Kick it out of the Union.

Let them rename it Obamastan.

They will tax and abort themselves into extinction in a few generations.

We preserve the ruins as a reminder to those who would repeat their folly.

Ok, I'm a dreamer.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:15 PM (Cctty)

63 Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:11 PM (t72+4)

Nice post, Blazer.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (9Wv2j)

64 Joan Walsh - walking yeast inection

Posted by: Frank G at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (I+To0)

65 >>Hair 'o the dog ace, hair 'o the dog.


Does this really work? I am willing to try anything, but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by alcoholics.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (5EsuI)

66 or infection

Posted by: Frank G at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (I+To0)

67

I'll bet you could put Walsh's brain on the edge of a razorblade and it would look like a bb in the middle of a six lane highway.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (t72+4)

68 Odd that Ms. Walsh did not mention the very real possibility that Barry attended college under another name and a foreign citizenship. Probably churlish of me to bring it up.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:17 PM (9Wv2j)

69 In the Left's viewpoint, Mohammed Atta and his gang would have been patriotic if they hadonly used Union-made boxcutters.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:17 PM (dcKUM)

70 ace, you need lots of water and sleep.

Then have a cheeseburger.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:18 PM (Cctty)

71 Actually, I think this is something we've seen in progress for a while now. Starting a few months ago, prominent leftists started to decry the "unprecedented" nature of people comparing the president to various despots, most notably Hitler, and how this is destructive to our political system.

These same pundits of course called Bush Hitler.

Their defense seems to be to argue that no one made such comparisons about Bush, which is obviously false.

At first glance this is just more obvious lying on the side of the left...but for some of them it is more then that. I think they are forcing themselves to forget and that this process will get stronger, as the Left is guided by nothing if not group think.

Oh, and they are right that this is destructive to our political system. But the time for turning the other cheek is over. These ####ers cheered on the Islamists in the Middle East and tried their damnedest to lose the war.

Now is the time to make sure the left gets a nice steaming helping of their own medicine.


Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:18 PM (bgcml)

72 It's like Ted Bundy leading a Womans' Rights march.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:18 PM (dcKUM)

73 Those jingoistic, flag wavin' reichwingers and their chicken-hawk president in thief!

Code Pink jeering soldiers at Walter Reed Hospital.

General Betrayus.

Christo-Marxist human shield brigade - Baghdad.

Dissent!=Patriotism!



















Posted by: 13times at January 01, 2010 04:19 PM (DXl3E)

74 63 Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:11 PM (t72+4)Nice post, Blazer.
Yes, summed up very nicely in just a few sentances.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 01, 2010 04:19 PM (QjuOG)

75 I feel like death.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 01, 2010 04:20 PM (muUqs)

76 Ace, do you have any Aleve? Best hangover helper in the world. Take some, have a bloody mary or a couple beers, and eat a good greasy hamburger or bacon eggs toast breakfast.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:20 PM (9Wv2j)

77 No one's listening to these fuckers anymore, anyway. They too busyloading their newly-purchased rounds into their guns.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:20 PM (dcKUM)

78 >>Does this really work?

It works in that you will feel less shitty now because you will get drunk again and you will feel less shitty tomorrow.

But professionally speaking, and I mean that as a professional drinker, you will have to pay the piper at some point.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 01, 2010 04:20 PM (VW9/y)

79
Does this really work? I am willing to try anything,
but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by
alcoholics.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (5EsuI)



Oh it works, just make sure you only have a few beers or a drink of the mixed variety or two, otherwise you'll be revisiting a much worse hang over tomorrow morning.

However if you don't like this option, try a V8 with Texas Pete or Tabasco added and perhaps a BC or a Goody's powder with it.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:20 PM (t72+4)

80 Hair 'o the dog ace, hair 'o the dog. Does this really work? I am willing to try anything, but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by alcoholics.
Double shot bloody mary will fix whatever you have. This concoction could cure cancer if they learned how to use it right!

Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at January 01, 2010 04:21 PM (F8sIP)

81 well I definitely do not want to be drunk. I didn't want to be drunk in the first place.

So, if I have one beer -- this will help?

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (5EsuI)

82 Does this really work? I am willing to try anything, but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by alcoholics.
No. You're suffering from dehydration. The hair mythcame fromthe new booze/beer temporarily rehydrates you, but actually has you crash even worse. Have plenty of water instead.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (2qU2d)

83 Does this really work? I am willing to try anything, but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by alcoholics.
A little bit of both. Yes it works in that you are getting drunk again to take away the pain of getting drunk.

Posted by: ErikW at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (bqZGz)

84 >>>ce, do you have any Aleve? Best hangover helper in the world.

right yeah I do, I meant to take some, will do so.

Just polished off a bunch of greasy chinese food... i know that part of the cure.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (5EsuI)

85
So, if I have one beer -- this will help?

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (5EsuI)





Make it two for good measure, that should fix you right up.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:23 PM (t72+4)

86 Yea, one or two beers will take the edge off.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 01, 2010 04:23 PM (VW9/y)

87 So, if I have one beer -- this will help?

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:22 PM (5EsuI)
Yes, snookums, it really works. If you have V-8 or tomato juice, do half half with the beer. B vitamins can't hurt either. But the aleve and the greasy food are crucial.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:23 PM (9Wv2j)

88 ace, barge into Fox News Headquarters and get a back rub from PAB.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:23 PM (Cctty)

89 It's like Ted Bundy leading a Womans' Rights march.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:18 PM (dcKUM)
Or Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:23 PM (bgcml)

90 Then again I may be a raging alcoholic. My hangover cure is lots of Powerade and lots of fruit.

Posted by: ErikW at January 01, 2010 04:24 PM (bqZGz)

91 Meh, she's just mad that she hasn't had a hit since "Life's been good".

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 01, 2010 04:24 PM (oLULt)

92 You should do a topic on hangover cures. If I was a betting man, which I am, I bet that post goes over 200 responses.

Posted by: Ministry of Fiction at January 01, 2010 04:24 PM (F8sIP)

93

My hangover cure is to never stop drinking in the first place.

Posted by: Sen. Max Baucus at January 01, 2010 04:25 PM (t72+4)

94 Have plenty of water instead.

You know what they say about water.

Posted by: WC Fields at January 01, 2010 04:25 PM (9Wv2j)

95 These are the same people who think late term
abortion is a right, but that capital punishment should be outlawed.
Logic cannot work with people like that.It has been said so many times before: Liberalism is a mental illness.

Posted by: lan sing at January 01, 2010 04:11 PM (cEOZd)
Unborn children can't vote for them. Career criminals, on the other hand, are one of the most strongly Democcrat constituencies.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:26 PM (bgcml)

96 Eman, how often I've thought along those lines...even with their own massive budget, infrastructure, some businesses--they'd still run it all into the ground. But at least it would be all theirs. Of course they'd still try to blame it on conservatives...which is always good for a laugh.

Posted by: Simon at January 01, 2010 04:26 PM (/d/hV)

97

ace, maybe you could shoot that Engle woman from South Dakota an e-mail ? I'll bet she knows a good hang-over remedy or two.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:26 PM (t72+4)

98 How can it be treason if Obama is actually on the other side?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 01, 2010 04:27 PM (ndlFj)

99 Hypocrisy, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: toby928 at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (PD1tk)

100 Joan Walsh says:

Do you want to give aid and comfort to our enemies? Continue to treat this president like he wasnt elected and he doesnt know what hes doing!

Joan Walsh is right, it's darn near traitorous to continue to treat a president "like he wasn't elected and doesn't know what he's doing". Joan Walsh is so wise, I just wish that Joan Walsh could talk to people like Joan Walsh who say things like:

"They stole the 2000 election. It's the truth"

If only we could arrange Joan Walsh to meet Joan Walsh, maybe Joan Walsh could talk some sense into her.

Posted by: dorkafork at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (WbRO8)

101 i guess the psychological term is "projection". per wikipedia,
projection is a defense mechanism, a primitive form of paranoia,
where one attributes one's own unacknowledged thoughts onto another, including by "injustice collecting". it is "shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, emotions, etc. in oneself to someone else, such that those same thoughts, emotions, etc. are perceived as being possessed by the other."

we saw this early in the vendetta against bush when a major rallying cry was "bush lied", as if compensating for the allegations & actual perjury of clinton. there are loads of other examples. it's weird & disturbing.

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (Ibk1S)

102 Every once in a while I miss a few of the aspects of partaking in adult beverages. A hangover is not one of them.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (554T5)

103 I'll remind you to go back and look at the
statements by the St. Louis County Sheriff and Attorney, and St Louis
Circuit Attorney back during the election.


Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 01, 2010 03:57 PM (AnTyA)
And don't forget the Ohio politicians and bureaucrats that went after Joe the Plumber as soon as he had the gaul to ask Baracky a question he didn't want to answer.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (bgcml)

104 I think she just wants a hug from John McCain.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:29 PM (dcKUM)

105
Hypocrisy, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: toby928 at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (PD1tk)

Hey, when you get up at the crack of noon in your folks basement it is hard to have breakfast.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:30 PM (bgcml)

106

Hypocrisy, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: toby928 at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (PD1tk)




My breakfast is usually in a glass,......with an olive.

Posted by: Sen. Max Baucus at January 01, 2010 04:31 PM (t72+4)

107 Big boobs. There's nothing that they can't cure.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 04:32 PM (dcKUM)

108
An inconvenient truth:

8 Years of debt under the Bush administration doesn't add up to even ONE year of debt under the Obama/Democrat administration.

Shhhhh.
Stimulus is your money... going going gone.

Left-winger panties are twisting. 'no no no - It's Bush's fault!'

Posted by: ethos at January 01, 2010 04:32 PM (0fzsA)

109 i guess the psychological term is "projection". per wikipedia,

projection is a defense mechanism, a primitive form of paranoia,

where one attributes one's own unacknowledged thoughts onto another,
including by "injustice collecting". it is "shifting one's unacceptable
thoughts, emotions, etc. in oneself to someone else, such that those
same thoughts, emotions, etc. are perceived as being possessed by the
other."



Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 04:28 PM (Ibk1S)

There certainly is a large amount of that, which is worrying. If you review what the left claimed Bushitler was up to a few years ago, and you view their statements through the prism of projection I certainly worry for the future...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 04:32 PM (bgcml)

110 I would love to see our country have a vigorous debate about what it means to be traitorous. Then I would love to see strong patriotic Americans start to observe the Constitution on treason, and hang people, such as Lindh and Somali-Americans who go on jihadh. Let us start hanging traitors, and giving the firing squad to terrorists who carry arms against the US without adhering to the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: harry at January 01, 2010 04:32 PM (VAjoS)

111

Does this really work? I am willing to try anything,
but I need assurance that this isn't just some kind of slogan used by
alcoholics.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:16 PM (5EsuI)
You really have to pay your dues first. Rehydrate yourself and wait at least 10 -12 hours from your last adult beverage. If you still feel like shit have some kinda drink that won't upset your stomach.

Posted by: Tinian at January 01, 2010 04:33 PM (7+pP9)

112 Is President Princess still in Hawaii?

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:34 PM (Cctty)

113 Penn St just beat LSU ...who was it that was braggin' on the SEC again?

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 01, 2010 04:36 PM (AnTyA)

114 Dissent is patriotic? Never heard that

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 01, 2010 04:37 PM (sYxEE)

115 Penn St just beat LSU

Oh, darn. My favorite Iraq vet is going to be so sad.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:39 PM (9Wv2j)

116 Penn State must've used Mike's Nature Trick-play.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 01, 2010 04:39 PM (rwlcW)

117 Penn St just beat LSU ...who was it that was braggin' on the SEC again?
Probably some Bama lovin' Texas hater.

Posted by: huerfano at January 01, 2010 04:39 PM (9szrE)

118 Is she talking about this same fellow that won't get the hell off my television?

Posted by: Al at January 01, 2010 04:41 PM (0lyUI)

119 O/T

Anyone hear Rush's press statement just moments ago? They apparently didn't find anything on the angiogram? No blockages. No definitive cause for the chest pains. Then he made some comment about our wonderful healthcare. Looking for link but can't find anything just yet.

Thank God he's okay.

Posted by: Twinks at January 01, 2010 04:41 PM (LeFbD)

120

Watch the video, the lady is almost in tears. She looks like someone trying to defend her geeky child from bullies.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:42 PM (t72+4)

121 OT:

Rush Limbaugh just had a press conference in Hawaii.

Said he had an angiogram, everything was clean. No arterial disease, and they have no idea what was causing the chest pains but hes fine now. It may have just been an artery spasming.

Then he plugged the greatness of the healthcare system with a wide grin.

Genius.

Also said the medication leaked about him taking for his back is not pain killers, but Prednisone (steroid and anti-inflammatory).

Posted by: enoxo at January 01, 2010 04:42 PM (EaJXL)

122 Twinks, I was just about to post that. YAY!!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 04:42 PM (9Wv2j)

123 Thank God he's okay.
Amen.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 01, 2010 04:43 PM (554T5)

124
>>we saw this early in the vendetta against bush when a major rallying
cry was "bush lied", as if compensating for the allegations
actual perjury of clinton. there are loads of other examples. it's
weird disturbing...Posted by: gomm.


It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we dont have enemies. But that is not the world we live in, and until Obama understands that, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment, and determination to keep us safe. (he doesn't)
The Democratic party and their constituents have become the most immature, whiniest group of people I have ever had the misfortune to hear. Democrats have become the party of the most asinine, nastiest sound bites of the last 15 years. You have party members who have said some of the most heinous comments about the last president alone. Where the hell do you libtard people get off whining and complaining! Maybe one the press should play back ALL the nasty remarks made by those in the Democratic party for the last year alone!

Philosophically aligned with European Social Democrats on both domestic and international issues, the central foreign policy tenant of the Democrat party's now dominant Obama -Carter - Dukakis - McGovern wing is "America Last".
This cosmopolitan cabal sets as its strategic goals the gradual demilitarization of the United States and the accommodation or, appeasement ,of any state or interest (formerly Soviet and Chinese Communist interests; now Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador) that challenges the U.S. and its allies.

This is a difficult, unpredictable world. Who beyond the triumphant left-most element of the Democrat party would entrust the defense of the West to Obama? Treasonous bastards, thats who.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 01, 2010 04:43 PM (Dxfei)

125 one reason this psychological pathology is characteristic of contemporary american leftists is that, for them, everything is subsumed into a political war against their enemies: republicans & conservatives. a conservative's enemy is al qaeda, an enemy of america; the left's only enemy is republicans. this goes back to the clintons & their advocates, who perceived a landscape where the only enemies were republicans, while refusing to see any real threats to america. provincial, childish, narcissistic &
very dangerous.

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 04:44 PM (Ibk1S)

126 Penn St just beat LSU ...who was it that was braggin' on the SEC again?
They won by a field goal with seconds left on the clock. That was the first SEC loss of today.

Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2010 04:44 PM (QrA9E)

127 Ultra leftists are skull fuckers.
My New Year's resolution should have been to just completely disown them in 2010. I got a good start in 2009 as I was friends with a few Walsh types. Picked them off one-by-one.
Unfortunately I still work with too many leftjects--I just need a new job to finalize this resolution.
I no longer have any patience for this liberal psychosis.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 01, 2010 04:45 PM (w/Hvb)

128 Happy to have the thread jacked by Rush's good news.

And Joan Walsh is a bitch in heat.

Posted by: arhooley at January 01, 2010 04:46 PM (GKXA7)

129 who was it that was braggin' on the SEC again?

If it wasn't me, it should have been.

Posted by: toby928 at January 01, 2010 04:46 PM (PD1tk)

130 BTW I am so hung over.

Grapefruit and Calcium Citrate
It's magic

Posted by: maverick muse at January 01, 2010 04:46 PM (+CLh/)

131 They keep using that word, "treason"... it doesn't mean what they think it means.

I suppose what they actually mean is disloyal - to their Rockstar Marxist Dear Leader.

How anyone could claim allegiance to this shamefully anti-American president... ignoring the shockingly anti-American, anti-Capitalist and criminal people he has surrounded himself with throughout his education and political career. Not to mention the "Christian" church he attended for 20 years - yet never heard the pastor's bitter tirades against whites, Jews, or America.

Almost diabolical. Almost.

Posted by: I. Montoya at January 01, 2010 04:47 PM (amFyu)

132

Saw a post over at Weasel Zippers about Newsweak predicting Chavez will be ousted in a coup this year. Now Chavez is fuming mad and accusing imperialistic Newsweak of fomenting revolution.

However its probably more like Newsweak is trying to warn him because liberals never met a despot they didn't want to fellate.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:48 PM (t72+4)

133 BTW Kamiya's been laid off!

http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2009/12/31/auld_lang_syne/

I've got another confession for ya Gary - I don't give a shit (I'm secretly happy)

Posted by: rakmjn1 at January 01, 2010 04:49 PM (WTqaX)

134 And Joan Walsh is a bitch in heat.
Posted by: arhooley at January 01, 2010 04:46 PM (GKXA7)
Don't think so--I'm sure she's all dried up down there.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 01, 2010 04:49 PM (w/Hvb)

135 Everythingis going to be just fine, according to David Broder (via HA Headlines), because We've Got Bright Eyed Janet:
It must have been a frantic time for her. She was in San Francisco, far from her Washington office, and she must have had a sleepless night. But her eyes were bright, and her voice was calm.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 01, 2010 04:49 PM (Be4xl)

136
Well then, throwing his felonious ass in jail at a later date would be blasphemous

Posted by: maverick muse at January 01, 2010 04:49 PM (+CLh/)

137
>>Does this really work? I am willing to try anything

Eggs & water. Then more eggs.

(It's the cysteine in the eggs. Actually works.)

Posted by: Tennyson Hayes at January 01, 2010 04:50 PM (K1TkI)

138 They won by a field goal with seconds left on the clock. That was the first SEC loss of today.
Lil wager on the FL/Cincy game...maybe?

Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 01, 2010 04:51 PM (AnTyA)

139 Scratch a reactionary leftist, see the fascist gibbering underneath.

Posted by: Lazarus Long at January 01, 2010 04:51 PM (RbtXl)

140
Good news about Rush.
I, also, hope this fucking administration FAILS.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 01, 2010 04:52 PM (Dxfei)

141 If ever a good horse fucking were needed...

Posted by: Mr. Ed at January 01, 2010 04:52 PM (hhjl+)

142 Hangover? Hydrate with club soda. Take Aleve for
headache; tomato juice and powdered ginger for the
nausea. Blow-up doll of Joan Walsh for companionship
through the night.

Posted by: grizzlybare at January 01, 2010 04:52 PM (lV9Fs)

143 Damn, Ace...you're pretty coherent for havin' a hangover.
I didn't even get good and drunk - yet - and I'm having a hard time keeping up.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 01, 2010 04:53 PM (Rwudm)

144 okay found the alleve.

Also started drinking water. I know this is an obvious one but for some reason I didn't do it.

uggh. kill me now.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:54 PM (5EsuI)

145
Obama and the democrats could actually drop their unpopular tax-payer funded health care crap.
I'd be the be the first to cheer.

Posted by: ethos at January 01, 2010 04:55 PM (0fzsA)

146 sickinmass: i was typing post 125 while you posted & didn't your comments. ditto, indeed!

clinton's "multilateralism" , abrogation of american authority and leadership in the world, & willful disregard of the looming threat of al qaeda (for one) went hand in hand with their portrayal of "the right" as hateful & dangerous. they saw everything as secondary to their domestic political wars.
we saw the consequence on 9/11.

the dems have been trying to triangulate and backtrack ever since, generally by attacking republicans in shameless defensive displays such as the 9/11 commission, but the still can't formulate a cohesive foreign policy.

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 04:55 PM (Ibk1S)

147 Egypt blocks Code Pink from entering Gaza Strip http://tinyurl.com/ygdvpwk

I'm wondering... who funds Code Pink? I mean, it takes money to send folks from the US to Egypt. Boat/plane tickets, food, lodging, etc... these things cost money. None of these women seem like the sort that could hold onto their money longer than five minutes. So where's it come from?

Posted by: Tom in Cali at January 01, 2010 04:55 PM (ptbOj)

148 BTW I am so hung over.
That Hobo blood has gotten awful powerful these days. Back when I was a kid, it wern't so potent!

Posted by: garrett at January 01, 2010 04:56 PM (mQtx8)

149 Walsh was going to cry and Chrissy cut her off before she could tear open her shirt and show the Obama face tattoo that covers her left breast.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 04:58 PM (Cctty)

150 ah okay I have some calcium citrate too. will have that.

had some eggs. would eat more but I'm stuffed.

Posted by: ace at January 01, 2010 04:58 PM (5EsuI)

151 You need to keep Alka Seltzer Morning Relief on hand for days when you have to function and you're completely hung over. It's pretty good.
And if you go hair of the dog route, try a Bloody Mary. The juice will help get vitamins back in your system.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 01, 2010 04:59 PM (w/Hvb)

152
Egypt blocks Code Pink from entering Gaza Strip http://tinyurl.com/ygdvpwk

I'm
wondering... who funds Code Pink? I mean, it takes money to send folks
from the US to Egypt. Boat/plane tickets, food, lodging, etc... these
things cost money. None of these women seem like the sort that could
hold onto their money longer than five minutes. So where's it come
from?


Posted by: Tom in Cali at January 01, 2010 04:55 PM (ptbOj)




Shouldn't they and the She-hag be camped out in front of Barry's rental house in Hawaii just like they used to do when Bush was down in Crawford on vacation?

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 04:59 PM (t72+4)

153 Obama is the Titanic.....Joan Walsh is the First Violinist...Ben Nelson is the third Trombonist.

Posted by: your name here at January 01, 2010 05:00 PM (9mP7+)

154 November can't come soon emough.

Posted by: Martin at January 01, 2010 05:00 PM (2hX6Q)

155 Also started drinking water. I know this is an obvious one but for some reason I didn't do it.
Did you even proof read your own 'New Year's Warning' post?
Get yerself a Bacon, Egg and Cheese on a Roll and a Liter of Gatorade...and take that skirt off, Nancy!

Posted by: garrett at January 01, 2010 05:00 PM (mQtx8)

156 Hangover cure: I think it depends how hungover you are. There are degrees, aren't there?

Hungover but not deathly (drank a little too much wine or beer) drink water and do some exercise that makes you sweat - e.g., stairmaster, jog - so the toxins get sweated out of your body. Then you can drink again, later!

Deathly ill hangover (drank the hard stuff like gin, vodka, or both on an empty stomach): drink water, go to bed, stay off alcohol for 24 hours.

Posted by: chris999 at January 01, 2010 05:02 PM (B/WwP)

157 I wish I was hungover. I've coughed phlegm until my eyes bled.

NyQuil is no substitute for a good stiff drink.

Posted by: toby928: looking for sympathy at January 01, 2010 05:03 PM (PD1tk)

158 Walsh is headed for a breakdown.

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 05:03 PM (Cctty)

159 Damn concern trolls.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 01, 2010 05:04 PM (dcKUM)

160 I'm hung over AND I had an argument with my idiot lefty friends last night.

Someone help me out here. The House Bill (I think it's House) has a provision in it that allows the HHS czar or some czar to actually go in and pick individuals off their health plans. I know I read it somewhere, and I'm searching all over Powerline, but I can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Posted by: arhooley at January 01, 2010 05:04 PM (GKXA7)

161 I wish I was hungover. I've coughed phlegm until my eyes bled.

NyQuil is no substitute for a good stiff drink.
Posted by: toby928: looking for sympathy at January 01, 2010 05:03 PM (PD1tk)


Poor boo-boo!

Posted by: eman at January 01, 2010 05:05 PM (Cctty)

162 Here is a link to Rush Limbaugh's press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaIq5QeI0EY

Posted by: enoxo at January 01, 2010 05:05 PM (EaJXL)

163 Poor boo-boo!

The pack senses weakness.

Posted by: toby928: looking for sympathy at January 01, 2010 05:06 PM (PD1tk)

164 Well a portion anyhow... that doesn't have the doctor's comments, or him answering a reporter's question (after he said no questions) about what he was taking for his back pain.

Posted by: enoxo at January 01, 2010 05:06 PM (EaJXL)

165 Jeez, Toby, it's almost too much for one man to bear. Didn't you also get the baby girl's disease right before Christmas (or am I confusing you with another mucus-spewing moron)? Poor baby.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 05:07 PM (9Wv2j)

166 am I confusing you with another mucus-spewing moron
Must be. I was fine until Wednesday night. but eww, I wouldn't wish this on anyone. I'm hacking until I see stars and snot streaming like a five year old.

Very unmanly it is.

Posted by: toby928: looking for sympathy at January 01, 2010 05:11 PM (PD1tk)

167 Oh, and yes, I was partying last night rather than posting on the ONT, so let me say here: good riddance, 2009, and drunk and fighting with my idiot lefty friends was the best way to watch the door hitting your ass.

Posted by: arhooley at January 01, 2010 05:15 PM (GKXA7)

168 enoxo, thanks for that link! Rush looks and sounds great. Hopefully, he'll be back at work on Monday. Also, I read somewhere that he was taking prednisone or prednisolone for his back and not any kind of narcotic.

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 05:17 PM (9Wv2j)

169 ace,
Drink Pedialite. It will rehydrate you. That or Gatorade.

Posted by: Warden at January 01, 2010 05:22 PM (vMb8S)

170 Obama is the Titanic.....Joan Walsh is the First Violinist...Ben Nelson is the third Trombonist.

Posted by: your name here

Please do not compare this pack of ideologues with musicians who spent their final moments bringing a measure of comfort and beauty during a horrific disaster. Any one of those men stand shoulders above this peanut gallery.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 01, 2010 05:24 PM (1O93r)

171 let me clarify my previous posts (not than anyone cares [sniff]):
since the reagan revolution and the disintegration of lbj's great society programs, the liberals have been left with a purely abstract ideology and abstract war with "the right". they see the world as left vs right. conservatives, by my definition, see the world in terms of reality, including that america is in the world & america is a good.

because they exist in a fantasy world divorced from reality, they are subject to and exhibit bizarre psychosomatic traits. and their raison d'etre becomes the wreaking of vengeance and destruction on their perceived enemies for it's own sake.

bastards.

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 05:27 PM (Ibk1S)

172
Oh it works, just make sure you only have a few beers or a drink of the mixed variety or two, otherwise you'll be revisiting a much worse hang over tomorrow morning.
A few more beers? Isn't that whatalcoholics do? Have another and another, and start over when they wake up. I think I'd try a hairy dog first.
As a professional headache recipient,I get headaches and I don't even get thebenefit of adrink. Life is soooo unfair.
I start with a couple ofextra strength Excedrin.I think it'sthe caffeine thatmakes it work better then other over the counter meds?
After that, a flexiblefrozen sports pack wrapped in an old t-shirt will oftenwork wonders for an instant dulling of the pain. I keep a couple in the freezer for thebad days.
Best luck with the boomer abatement.

Posted by: MyHeadHurts at January 01, 2010 05:28 PM (x0suh)

173 Projection is not needed to explain the psychology here, just revisit the old monkeysphere post [look it up]

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at January 01, 2010 05:30 PM (hCQG5)

174 2000-2008

The climate right now is that Democrats use everything they can to undermine and delegitimize this president. And its actually un-American. Its traitorous, in my opinion. Do you want to give aid and comfort to our enemies? Continue to treat this president like he wasnt elected and he doesnt know what hes doing! He knows what he did. He knows what hes doing. Im proud of him. I believe that he has the stalwart, resolute nature to get this done...

Posted by: sexypig at January 01, 2010 05:41 PM (0t7L8)

175 Please do not compare this pack of ideologues with musicians who spent their final moments bringing a measure of comfort and beauty during a horrific disaster. Any one of those men stand shoulders above this peanut gallery.

It is Cognitive Dissonance on steroids....I think the "One" will be the end of KOS and MoveOn.Org........and the Race hustling industry.

Posted by: your name here at January 01, 2010 05:45 PM (9mP7+)

176 Just more of that liberal 'nuance' thing. A more concise translation is:
Bush - Bad. Obama - Perfection.

Guess Walsh is one of those that can be tossed aside should she come up with future "intellectual" discussions. We've seen the "depth" of her "intelligence".

Posted by: GarandFan at January 01, 2010 05:49 PM (ZQBnQ)

177 Joan Walsh is one of those people who have to be perpetually angry.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 01, 2010 05:51 PM (sYxEE)

178 The climate right now is that Republicans use everything they can to
undermine and delegitimize this president. And its actually
un-American. Its traitorous, in my opinion.

Liberal hypocrites. Ain't anything new, that's for sure.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 01, 2010 05:52 PM (jV9DU)

179 dissent in time of war is treason !! During wartime we must all support the POTUS.

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 01, 2010 03:45 PM (mhD2v)
Wasn't your New Year's resolution to be less of a braindead lefty tool? If not, it should have been.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 01, 2010 05:53 PM (aC0uO)

180 I hope he fails.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at January 01, 2010 05:56 PM (YRjsF)

181 hey, btw, just so you don't get the wrong idea about me:

i'm hungover.

paris hilton is a dumb slut.

those guys are gay.

Posted by: gomm at January 01, 2010 05:59 PM (Ibk1S)

182 Comrades, dissent being the highest form of patriotism ended on January 20, 2009. Now dissent is racist and counter-revolutionary and must be eradicated. You must now blindly follow Dear Leader like our good comrades like Joan Walsh.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 01, 2010 05:59 PM (huqqC)

183 Newsweak predicting Chavez will be ousted in a coup this year.

I rather doubt that will happen. All of his serious internal enemies are either in prison or shallow graves, and his military leadership over the past few years has been set to Cuba for "training" (where undoubtedly a number of them were recruited as DA/DGI spies who would report back if such a thing was in the works)

I suspect the Cubans wouldn't trust a buffoon like Chavez enough to keep his own house in order and took out such an "insurance policy" on their own initiative.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 01, 2010 06:01 PM (/ggjw)

184 Joan Walsh is one of those people who have to be perpetually angry.

I have friends acquaintances like that. Their fraudulent asshole won, they have control of Congress, they can do any damn America-destroying thing they want, and yet their major misery is that we're not all standing on the sidelines cheering as the ship goes down. *spits*

Posted by: Peaches at January 01, 2010 06:02 PM (9Wv2j)

185 I love it when the traitors of the left try and call others, "traitors". It's hysterical. I am just amazed that they have the chutzpah, but as we have seen, the left is without shame or embarrassment when running with "the big lie".
And now the left can continue to tell us, true patriots that they are, why the US is the embodiment of all evil in the world.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 01, 2010 06:03 PM (A46hP)

186 Also started drinking water. I know this is an obvious one but for some reason I didn't do it.



uggh. kill me now.


As a former victim of many a grad school booze-up gone wrong, I'll cast another vote for the rehydration route. Pack in a couple of aspirin with as much water as you can tolerate and take it easy. If you want to blow chow right away, do it and then try again with the aspirin/water combo.

Not very pleasant recuperating but after trying many 'cures', I've found that that's the one surefire route back to normality.


Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 01, 2010 06:45 PM (SHKl9)

187 Hair 'o the dog ace, hair 'o the dog.

Posted by: Blazer

Blazer, you know it was Val-U-Rite don't you? That would be like the hair 'o the dog's taint.

BTW, would someone tell U of Oregon to quit taking all that Nike money. Their freaking band was wearing Nike track suits instead of unis.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 01, 2010 06:52 PM (Vol3D)

188 I almost wonder if this was even worth posting. We KNEW exactly what would happen when President 0 took office and proceeded to do what we knew he would do and some of criticized him for it.

Called racists? Check
Called traitors? Check.

I can only assume that they realize the charge of racism isn't sticking. This new charge must have come out of the latest DNC memo.

These people truly make me sick.

Posted by: lemosley at January 01, 2010 07:09 PM (7P8hm)

189 I had my moronic asshole nephew (it's not entirely his fault--he was raised by my screaming liberal sister in San Francisco) spoil one Christmas dinner by insulting a conservative guess, mouthing off about "frat boy" Bush, and saying "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism". I suspect he would have gotten along well with Joan Walsh. Maybe he can have Christmas dinner with her these days since the little sumbitch hasn't been invited back to my table.
OTOH Walsh you bitch---how's that payback for all your years of Bush bashing working out for you? Not so well I hear. Tough noogies.

Posted by: Chicken Choker & Corncob Smoker at January 01, 2010 07:17 PM (ktYjH)

190 I had my moronic asshole nephew (it's not entirely his fault--he was
raised by my screaming liberal sister in San Francisco) spoil one
Christmas dinner by insulting a conservative guess, mouthing off about
"frat boy" Bush, and saying "Dissent is the highest form of
patriotism". I suspect he would have gotten along well with Joan
Walsh. Maybe he can have Christmas dinner with her these days since
the little sumbitch hasn't been invited back to my table.



Your a much better person than me. I would have come across the table in one long sweeping back-hand and smacked the taste and the mashed potatoes out of his mouth.

Posted by: Blazer at January 01, 2010 07:45 PM (t72+4)

191 OK, so Joan Walsh thinks Tom Hayden is a traitor for peeling the Obama ass"O" sticker off his car, huh?

Agreed. Execute both of them.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 01, 2010 08:01 PM (QECjC)

192 Oh just nevermind -- she's new, here, donchaknoooo...

Posted by: Faye Kinnit at January 01, 2010 08:12 PM (l1oyw)

193
ace, a loss of mineralswater. Sports teams always got gatorade on hand for that.
If you can't crawl to the store and buy some then cut the head of a dog off and drink the blood. I mean as a second option. good luck

Posted by: ron dorque at January 01, 2010 08:28 PM (HdTmd)

194 Can't cure a hangover, only treat the symptoms. But as a preventative, next time you are planning some heavy drinking, add water or lots ice to the drinks. When I am three sheets to the wind I start drinking more because I get dehydrated from the alcohol and have those last couple drinks because I'm thirsty. Adding water will fight off the dehydration and you will drink less alcohol. Go ahead and don't bother with water on the first drink while you are sober enough to enjoy it. By the third drink you won't even notice the extra water.

Why do I have to learn this lesson over at least once a year?

Posted by: snookered at January 01, 2010 08:32 PM (7Vg6Y)

195 I really hope my birthday present in 2013 is to see the last of this treasonous motherfucker. He and Chewbama can go on one last date night then load up the U-haul in the morning.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 01, 2010 08:48 PM (mHQ7T)

196 Reminds me of 9/11. I was a company commander in 1st Infantry Division in Germany at the time. My lefty sister included me on a group email chain criticizing people in the US for putting flags on everything.After about my third response, her lefty friends were emailing her asking her to tell me to stop responding to their posts. My main transgression was to ask them questions - one of their points was that anyone who didn't vote shouldn't wave a flag. Ten percent of my soldiers were not citizens, so I asked if it was okay that my noncitizen soldiers wear a flag on their uniform even though they didn't vote. Got lots of responses to that email, but never got a clear response to the question.

Posted by: Penultimatum at January 01, 2010 08:53 PM (CIKgX)

197 Ten percent of my soldiers were not citizens, so I
asked if it was okay that my noncitizen soldiers wear a flag on their
uniform even though they didn't vote. Got lots of responses to that
email, but never got a clear response to the question.

Posted by: Penultimatum at January 01, 2010 08:53 PM (CIKgX)
You silly person you, you don't even know what their real disagreement with you was. Liberals prefer it when non-citizens vote.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 09:49 PM (bgcml)

198 By their own logic it's now completely legitimate for one to wish that Gary Kamiya is executed by a shotgun blast to the forehead. Not that anyone would be so vile, you understand, but were he to answer his doorbell and have someone distribute his cranial contents on the wall behind him while his horrified family looks on, then because the perpetrator believed shutting him up was preferable to have him talking, then that justifies the act.

And that, people, is essentially what he's saying.

Means justifying ends. Dead soldiers (and I'd remind you that the death toll is not exclusively US) vs. the Bush/Cheney nexus of horror is so lop-sided in its moral ramifications that having the US military defeated is a net plus. That's not treachery, of course. But it's for damn sure sedition.

Posted by: David Gillies at January 01, 2010 11:57 PM (g4zXx)

199 Dissent is the highest form of racism.

Posted by: Phelps at January 02, 2010 02:35 AM (gl/HN)

200 @183: Chavez's main problem is that he made grandiose promises based on an outlook of $100/barrel being the new normal for oil. It's not, and I predict that when it's obvious that the global economy is still in the shitter the price of oil will collapse back to the natural $40/barrel price.

When he can no longer afford to buy off the peasant masses, it won't matter what assets Cuba has in the army.

More on topic (yes, pun intended), I find that making my mixed drinks with Gatorade is the best hangover prevention. I call vodka mixed with grape Gatorade a "purple people eater"...

Posted by: Topper Harley at January 02, 2010 02:37 AM (LfkYP)

201 ...the only thing i can add is that once a columnist to the SF Examiner wrote, "There are two kinds of people in Berkeley. Those that are trying to over throw the government, and those that are looking for the perfect croissant."

I think this goes for the left in general.

Posted by: mistress overdone at January 02, 2010 08:01 AM (M4IOE)

202 62
They need their own country.

Exile them to Maine. Kick it out of the Union.

Let them rename it Obamastan.

They will tax and abort themselves into extinction in a few generations.

Socialism is a cancer. Cut it out or it kills the body.

Posted by: louis tully at January 02, 2010 10:01 AM (Vc/xe)

203 Pack in a couple of aspirin with as much water as you can tolerate and take it easy.

Back during my drinking days, I would do this before heading to bed (if I could remember in my drunken state.) It always seemed to mitigate the effects.

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204 How the fuck does this dim bitch come up with the idea that OPIE knows what he is doing? What fucking planet do these fucktards live on?
Someone help me with this??

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