1

Obama to the young, “Hey.  You f—ked up.  You trusted me!”

2 The "almost but not quite" strategy doesn't really play in a Congress in which the Democrats have commanding majorities in both houses.  It would come across as, "We couldn't get it done if you held it in both hands and guided it for us."

3 The liberals smell blood. They're not going to let the "moderates" (I'm starting to hate that word) keep them from their prey. They'll pass it using the nuclear option if necessary, and shrug when they lose marginal seats.

4 Are we sure the subjects polled are not aware that they could have "free health care"?

5

So that the bulk of the Democrats can appease their base and get them riled up and energetic -- blame the Republicans! -- and also that independents will be reassured and comforted that the bill actually didn't pass.

Seriously?!!!!!

That's a strategy?!!!!  Cynicism is now a strategy?!!!!

Sheesh.  If the Repubs let this go unanswered they deserve to be burned at the stake.

6 Are we sure the subjects polled are not aware that they could have "free health care"?

Free Health Care!!!  I'm buyin'!!!!

7 44% of adults apparently believe we can cover 30 million Americans with health insurance for less money without increasing the numbers of doctors and nurses without rationing. I guess we can thank the NEA for that.

8 What happened to all the free italics?

9

Some pundit or analyst -- and I believe he was a Democrat -- speculated that the Democrats' preferred resolution to this is to almost pass the bill, falling short by one or two votes in the Senate and a handful in the House.

Hell, I was saying that.  It's the best possible outcome for every Democrat involved.  The "Blue Dogs" get to vote against it, the liberals and Obama get to blame the evil Republicans.

10 quick question:

Do we actually have a locked-down definition of "ObamaCare"?

If not, then 49% are opposed to the idea of ObamaCare ... my hunch is that, once the details are known, that jumps to 60-65% opposed to actual ObamaCare

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11 Of course, in 2012 after conservatives gain both houses and the Presidency, it will all be undone. So what's the point of it all? To make a killing from the cash flow between passage and dismantling?

12 And we can thank the NEA for my horrible grammar, they have done their job too well.

13 OT: Look at this great Gore smack-down: http://tinyurl.com/c8qr73

14 Cynicism is now a strategy?!!!!

What do you mean "now"?  The Family and Medical Leave Act was 100% cynicism.  It was a stick with which to beat GHWB.

15 What's Gallup?

16 Of course, in 2012 after conservatives gain both houses and the Presidency, it will all be undone. So what's the point of it all? To make a killing from the cash flow between passage and dismantling?

Posted by: hellcat at November 30, 2009 04:48 PM (Vom6x)

The theory is, as it always has been, that once all those new entitlement recipients are firmly clamped onto the public teat, they will never dis-elect the Democrats for fear of losing their new Government benefits.  As with AGW, however, reality seems to be stubbornly reluctant to conform to the theory's predictions.

17

Cynicism is now a strategy?!!!!

Have you been watching these people since roughly the Tet Offensive?  That's what they do.

18

The poll also finds 40% of Americans approving of President Obama's handling of healthcare policy, while 53% disapprove. This is slightly more negative than what Gallup found from July through September, and represents his worst review to date on this issue.

 

Lame Street Media response: Nothing but racism is at work here!!

19 Of course, in 2012 after conservatives gain both houses and the Presidency, it will all be undone. So what's the point of it all? To make a killing from the cash flow between passage and dismantling?
Posted by: hellcat at November 30, 2009 04:48 PM (Vom6x)

Unfortunetaly things don't get undone

20 What's Gallup?

It's what a horse does.

21 11 Of course, in 2012 after conservatives gain both houses and the Presidency, it will all be undone. So what's the point of it all? To make a killing from the cash flow between passage and dismantling?

You may be expecting too much of the voting public, and Washington Republicans. The usual expectation is that the federal ratchet only goes one way--more government, and the most Republicans can hope for is to stop further growth. Rolling it back is another story.

Consider that no country has ever done away with government health care once enacted. Further, of all the multitude of government programs polluting our economy, has any been seriously curtailed or removed? Perhaps welfare alone, in 1995, but then it was only a cutback, and not a removal. The trend is all in the other direction.

22
"my hunch is that, once the details are known, that jumps to 60-65% opposed to actual ObamaCare"

Problem is, no one will know what's in Obamacare until it passes.

23 What's Gallup?

It's what a horse does.
Posted by: CUS at November 30, 2009 04:53 PM (wOGfT)

Not the one's I bet on?

24 What's Gallup?

It's what a horse does.

Posted by: CUS at November 30, 2009 04:53 PM (wOGfT)

I thought what a horse does was what I spread in my garden to make the flowers grow... and what Obama dispenses on television when he describes his policies to the voters.

25 If I am going to be paying for some other family's health insurance (and food and shelter and every other damn thing), then I sure as hell better be able to set their bedtimes and see their report cards.  Otherwise, this adoption is off.

26
What, no open tags?  Poop, I always miss the fun threads.

27 What's a horse?

28 If I am going to be paying for some other family's health insurance (and food and shelter and every other damn thing), then I sure as hell better be able to set their bedtimes and see their report cards. Otherwise, this adoption is off.
Posted by: stuiec at November 30, 2009 04:56 PM (7AOgy)

I also want first dibs on their first child, may it be a masculine one!

29 Don't count on a Republican repeal effort if this monstrosity passes. Entitlements, once given, are nearly immortal -- that's the fabled "liberal ratchet effect" people talk about. Look at Social Security: everyone knows it's unsustainable, that it's doomed to fail...and yet no politician dares to touch it. Old people vote, and they will pillory anyone who touches "their" money. Junior may be driven into penury and beggary later, but by then they'll be safely dead, so who cares? Same with public-sector pensions -- every state and nearly every municipality in the United States has long-term public sector pension problems, but no one dares to do the unthinkable and cut benefits.

California will be an interesting test-case for exactly how much shit taxpayers will eat before they rebel. Unless things change, California is headed for a crash (may in fact by right in the middle of crashing as we speak). It has enormous financial liabilities, and simply raising taxes -- even if they could -- wouldn't solve the problem. But California's public sector is dominated by unions like the SEIU, and they'll resist any cut in benefits to the bitter end. It's a prime set up for chaos and upheaval, and the only question now is when and not if. And close behind California is Michigan, New York, New Jersey, Arizona, and Nevada. When California topples, the rest may fall like dominoes behind it.

30 So, let's see if I get this: So cost goes up, quality goes down, taxes are imposed right away, benefits aren't for 3 more years, it'll make the recession worse and it still won't cover everybody, not even close.

That is craptastic!

31 Not the one's I bet on?

I'll take 'em.

32

People keep saying this can not be repealed since no entitlement has ever been repealed. Well no entitlement was never taxed for 3 years prior to its inception to hide the huge budgetary black hole either.

Unprecedented.

33 God damn my grammar.

34 It's our obligation as human beings to take care of those less fortunate than us, even when it destroys the economy!

What?

35

I hope I can figure out how to "hide the decline" in my health care I receive, and the money I make, if this thing passes.

Leeches are still pretty cheap, right?

36

The 10% CBO figure is for plans other than the public option.  Since the public option is free, the overall cost will decrease.

Also, the moon talks to me (usually in Swahili) and I HAVE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF THIS DAMNED SPIDERS CRAWLING INSIDE MY EYES.

37 This blog seems different recently.

38

What's Gallup?

Small town in New Mexico.

39

Well no entitlement was never taxed for 3 years prior to its inception to hide the huge budgetary black hole either.

And that money will be in a lockbox.

I trust the Congress.

I have a date with a Martian "girl" tonight and then I'm going to kill squirels with lawn darts.

40

Which tells you they consider you truly stupid.

Well, they certainly consider 52% of the people stupid. The other 48% they try not to think about at all.

41

39

I never thought of that they probably will spend it as soon as they get it. Either that or they will use the money to say "look Obama is reducing the deficit" because they don't have to pay it out until after 2013. So they get the bonus of looking like deficit hawks while taxing us to pay for a permanent entitlement until it kicks in after his next election.

42 One or the other, guys. One or the other. I remember taking the LSATs. Or the GMATs.

Doesn't sound like the LSAT. Must be the GMAT. Which might be why most legislators are lawyers.

43 Congratulations to the CBO.  My health care insurance went up 1st of October.

44 44% of adults apparently believe we can cover 30 million Americans with health insurance for less money without increasing the numbers of doctors and nurses without rationing.

It all depends on what you consider health care.  INS recently reported a huge spike in green cards issued to Caribbean and African witch doctors.  I can tell you right now, they're not coming here to hang drywall.

45 >>>That's a strategy?!!!! Cynicism is now a strategy?!!!!


*Now* a strategy? It's always been a strategy. It's a classic for a reason.

46 25 If I am going to be paying for some other family's health insurance (and food and shelter and every other damn thing), then I sure as hell better be able to set their bedtimes and see their report cards.  Otherwise, this adoption is off.

Sorry. It doesn't work that way. The "Mandatory Income Redistribution Act" requires the government (peace be upon lord Obama) to take a large percentage of your income (the more you make, the more we take) and, when all of the government agencies involved are paid their salaries and bonuses, give portions of it to individuals that we, the government, deem worthy of your dollars. This includes favored minorities, Muslim action groups and anyone working with the Democratic party.  Whites, independents, libertarians, Christians, Jews and Republicans need not apply.

47 34 It's our obligation as human beings to take care of those less fortunate than us, even when it destroys the economy!

What?

Posted by: Lefty McMoonbat at November 30, 2009 05:05 PM (RD7QR)

Health insurance reform is compassionate by definition, no matter how many people we have to kill to afford it.

48 Will no one rid me of these meddlesome accountants?

49

Actually I do not have to wonder if they will use the billions of dollars taken in new taxes before this boondoggle starts its outflow of tax dollars to say they are not fiscally insane, they will.

Now that is cynical

50 OT, but Glenn Beck just told his audience that, instead of rooting for the guy with the death star (meaning too-big-to-fail corporations), they should be rooting for the Ewoks!

Glenn Beck = double-secret moron

51 Under all these plans, demand for health-care will increase which will increase prices. So that 56 to 59% in reduced costs, for the uninsured, will be far less, but you will be forced to buy health-care. To sum up : If you have no insurance, you will be forced to buy health-care at prices not much different from people, who have insurance, pay now. And if you have insurance, you seriously fucked.

52 If I had to take COBRA now (thankfully I don't) my premium for a single male adult would be 793.00 per month.  A 10% increase to $870.00 a month would be a kick in the ass after just being punched in the stomach.

53 @48, Consider it done!

54 Dems, "Oh how we love them that's beholden."

55 You can't both claim you're going to reduce something from current levels and then calculate the taxes that will flow in based on current levels.

What?  WHAT???

56 Congratulations, you will now basically have a complete stranger's health care added to your premiums as if he's a member of your family, because you can afford it.

And thus open the floodgates of the socialist welfare nanny state, never to be drawn back again.

57 Can't wait to join the lines to have the same cubical rats that tell me I can't water my lawn on Wednesdays... also tell me I can't treat my pesky leukemia.

58
Don't forget: 'free' healthcare in the U.S.+ amnesty = every 3rd world shithole emptying out heading for the States.  Not just central and south america - Africa and SE Asia are going to make a run for our borders.

59

they should be rooting for the Ewoks!

Screw the Ewoks.

I am a fan of the giant monsters that live inside asteroids.

 

 

60

"Congratulations, you will now basically have a complete stranger's health care added to your premiums as if he's a member of your family, because you can afford it."

Then the muthafucker better mow my yard.......

61 That crazy survivalist condo with the windmill and well in Idaho is looking like a smart investment now.

I can't believe I lived long enough to type that.

62
The CBO says the curve will be bent up the ass of the 47% of the population that actually pays taxes. That leaves 52% to vote for dear leader in 2012.

63 Of course, in 2012 after conservatives gain both houses and the Presidency, it will all be undone.

Health care needs to get in line.

64 "If you don't have insurance, you may be a winner... sort of. As regards primary effects you come out ahead -- free money! -- but there will be secondary effects, too..."

...as I may need to eliminate most or all of my employees and go back to running the store by myself.  It was easier and almost as profitable that way before anyway.

65 25 If I am going to be paying for some other family's health insurance (and food and shelter and every other damn thing), then I sure as hell better be able to set their bedtimes and see their report cards.  Otherwise, this adoption is off.

Posted by: stuiec at November 30, 2009 04:56 PM (7AOgy)

I'm sure that will eventually be part of the deal. It just won't be you or I that gets to dictate rules, and instead it will be our bed times, and our report cards, and our habits that are subject to approval by our betters. I'm constantly amazed by how many so-called conservatives also fall into that trap by demanding input on other people's lives simply because society is paying for it. I know your post wasn't serious in that aspect stuiec, but many others in that vein are.

66 And here in Oregon, the cockholsters have put two measures on the Jan. 2010 ballot that raises taxes on businesses and "the rich". (> $250,000/yr. income)

To recap: We're hip-deep in a recession, 12% unemployment, so the geniuses in the teacher's unions and in Salem think that the best thing to do is raise taxes.

Yeah, that'll work.

F*king idiots.

67

I still think that Congress needs to lead by example.  If this health care reform is as fabulous as they purport it to be, they need to be the first ones enrolled in the gubamint option.  After they've enjoyed the wonderful benefits of late mammogram and prostate screenings, rationed care, and limited choice for several years, then the public can jump on board. 

I also am thinking I need to get one of those bumper stickers:  "If you aren't outraged, then you aren't paying attention."

68 How could it be otherwise?  When businesses are taxed, then they must pass that expense on to the consumer.

69 That's right bitches!

Suck it!

70

I have a liberal friend who says she likes socialism. She says she isn't afraid to say it. She doesn't hold a job. Her husband makes around 50K a year. They have elected to purchase and maintain a large truck (which he needs for work) and a large late model SUV which she drives the two kids around in. They have several computers, an iPod, cable TV with all the premium channels. But no heatlth insurance. She says Health insurance is a right. She scoffs when I point out she is trying to make doctors her slaves. But she cannot follow enconomics. If I start to tell her how markets work she cannot seem to follow and looks for ways to argue with me.

These people are so poorly educated they cannot understand supply and demand slopes. She doesn't understand why CRU not having any original data, not having any record of what stations are in ther dataset, and no record of how they arrived at the current dataset proves there is no science there. Those things all violate every scientific principle. But she doesn't seem to know anything about science at all.

People like her scrace the crap out of me because if there are enough people who think some one else bears responsibility for their needs and vote that way then the country in finished. As Thatcher said, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money."

I saw a women going on about the money she was going to be getting from Obama. The reporter asked her if she knew where the money would come from and she said somethign to the effect that He's is the president and it will be "Obama money". These people imagine that money is just created out of thin air any time the presidents want some to pass out.

 

 

71

I still think that Congress needs to lead by example. 

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72

I saw a women going on about the money she was going to be getting from Obama. The reporter asked her if she knew where the money would come from and she said somethign to the effect that He's is the president and it will be "Obama money". These people imagine that money is just created out of thin air any time the presidents want some to pass out.

 We love you Obama!

73 Pay more, get less, its the American Democrat way.

74

Posted by: Steve In Tulsa at November 30, 2009 05:54 PM (lv+sJ)

Try dropping your kids off with your liberal friend sometime for her to watch them.  Don't call ahead, just show up.  And if she objects, tell her that childcare is a right, and that since she's not going to shell out for healthcare for the public good, she can provide childcare services.

75

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 30, 2009 05:55 PM (B+qrE)

I know it will never happen, but why can't "we the people" hold their feet to the fire?  They have long forgotten that they work for us.  We need to remind them of this en masse.  The people of the U.S. need to stand up to these clowns and send their asses packing.  Besides, a girl can dream, right?

76 Oops!  Sock!

77 These people imagine that money is just created out of thin air any time the presidents want some to pass out.

Hey, it worked for Mugabe, right?

78

If we don't stop them now from turning us into a socialist state, when do we plan on doing so?

Read about the history of Argentina soemtime.

79 Independents oppose passage of a bill by 53% to 37%.

Up until now, if someone told me they were an independent, I frowned at their ignorance and apathy to pick a side. Now, instead of frowning, I will take my size 13 jackboot and kick them in the groin.

80 Oh, and you all just wait and see the hordes of doctors (especially specialists) who "retire" from practicing medicine when this poo hits the fan.  It's not going to be pretty.  There will be a paucity of tonsil stealing feet chopping surgeons when the dust settles. 

81 The people of the U.S. need to stand up to these clowns and send their asses packing.

I got something on hold I'm going to post later tonight about this that's causing a LOT of concern in the Democrat bunker.  Right now I'm sleep deprived and need a nap.

82

I still think that Congress needs to lead by example. 

Posted by: runningrn at November 30, 2009 05:52 PM (vEclT)

On more than just health care.  For example, since they claim they're in public service, let them have the same type and quality of room and board that military personnel receive: you serve in Congress, you live under the same conditions as the men and women who serve in the Armed Forces (minus, of course, the risks of combat and the privations of overseas deployment).  I don't care if you own a mansion in Georgetown, while you're serving, you live in Congressmen's (or Senators') Quarters.

83

If I'm paying for a stranger's health care, then I damn well better be able to claim them as a dependent on my taxes.

With every day that passes, I hate those basturds more!   When is the day going to come that I wake up & not have to worry how I'm about to be screwed without being kissed first?

84 I posted a while back that the surgeon dad of one of my son's best friends told his son to get out of pre-med and look at another career choice.  Sad.  Another casualty of Obamanationhopeandchange.

85  I'm constantly amazed by how many so-called conservatives also fall into that trap by demanding input on other people's lives simply because society is paying for it. I know your post wasn't serious in that aspect stuiec, but many others in that vein are.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 30, 2009 05:50 PM (H7Rlw)

Where is this "Society" of which you speak?  I would love to be part of a community in which the Society, and not the members of the community, paid for everything.  Man, I could live so easy!  But in the meantime, I am stuck in this place, where people talk about these fonts of money called "Society" and "Government," but where somehow I and my neighbors always seem to end up stuck with the tab.

By the way, if someone wants to sell their birthright of freedom for a mess of pottage and Obamacare, I don't see why they should keep both their freedom and their Obamacare: it's not slavery if you willingly sell your freedom.  What I object to is them forcing me to give up my freedom in return for the Obamacare that I neither need nor want (and in the process forcing me to pay for their Obamacare too).

86 A fairly direct transfer of wealth, and the services that wealth buys, from the middle class to the lower class.

A transfer of income, actually, from people who earn it to people who use the state to steal it. Few of those dollars, as a percentage, will get to anyone "lower class." Broke dudes can't pay the state to force people to buy shit from them. They have no money, and no shit.

87 85  I'm constantly amazed by how many so-called conservatives also fall into that trap by demanding input on other people's lives simply because society is paying for it. I know your post wasn't serious in that aspect stuiec, but many others in that vein are.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 30, 2009 05:50 PM (H7Rlw)

Where is this "Society" of which you speak?  I would love to be part of a community in which the Society, and not the members of the community, paid for everything.  Man, I could live so easy!  But in the meantime, I am stuck in this place, where people talk about these fonts of money called "Society" and "Government," but where somehow I and my neighbors always seem to end up stuck with the tab.

By the way, if someone wants to sell their birthright of freedom for a mess of pottage and Obamacare, I don't see why they should keep both their freedom and their Obamacare: it's not slavery if you willingly sell your freedom.  What I object to is them forcing me to give up my freedom in return for the Obamacare that I neither need nor want (and in the process forcing me to pay for their Obamacare too).

Posted by: stuiec at November 30, 2009 06:08 PM (7AOgy)

I think you and I are arguing the same thing.

 

88

Its almost like Obama doesn't understand basic economics...

We need to remove the profit motive to incentivize the insurance companies to increase efficiency - Barack Obama

..oh, that's right, he doesn't.

89 Oh, and you all just wait and see the hordes of doctors (especially specialists) who "retire" from practicing medicine when this poo hits the fan. It's not going to be pretty. There will be a paucity of tonsil stealing feet chopping surgeons when the dust settles.

Posted by: runningrn at November 30, 2009 06:01 PM (vEclT)

In John Q, Denzel Washington played a father who holds the emergency room hostage to force the doctors to give his son a heart transplant his health insurance wouldn't pay for.

In the remake, will Denzel again play the father? Or will he play President Obama, refusing to pay for the heart transplant due to health care rationing?

90

I think you and I are arguing the same thing.

 Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 30, 2009 06:11 PM (H7Rlw)

I am pretty sure we are.

91 Dear Obama,
       
Do I look like Mrs. Obama? Do I? Then why do you want to do sex to me?

Yours
Kemp The American Taxpayer

92 I saw a women going on about the money she was going to be getting from Obama. The reporter asked her if she knew where the money would come from and she said somethign to the effect that He's is the president and it will be "Obama money". These people imagine that money is just created out of thin air any time the presidents want some to pass out.

Yes, that was Detroit.

And it wasn't just Obama money, it was money from "Obama's stash."

Sigh.

It will probably be better when Detroit is turned into a prison colony/ farm land.

93

With every day that passes, I hate those basturds more!   When is the day going to come that I wake up & not have to worry how I'm about to be screwed without being kissed first?

Posted by: Steph at November 30, 2009 06:02 PM (5bx6q)

Do you look like Mrs. Obama?  Because HE IS TRYING TO DO SEX TO YOU!!!

94 You guys bring the funny.

95 I really wish that we could all stop using the Gallup number.  The poll is for a Magical Healthcare Bill (TM, by me) that doesn't exist.  If you ask people if they would support a 10% tax increase on their income or a 10% premium increase on their healthcare in order to insure 30MM more illegals teenagers bums strangers, the support for it is in the 20% range - about the number of hard lefties as a percent of the population.

Ace, et al: Don't buy the setup!

As far as that goes, the R's are, in my humble opinion, using the right strategy against this.  Hammer the D's by using every opportunity to shout about the taxes, regulation, taxes, rationing, taxes and - every once in a while - suckerpunch them with a "death panel".  And taxes.  The electorate isn't buying it.

Here is where, as a sub-moron, I don't follow:  If the mushy-middle (Gallup, adults) of the electorate is informed enough to have disembarked the Obamatanic early, why have the general (Gallup, adults) numbers on Healthcare not moved more?  Are they still buying the Magic?

96 Dear stuiec,
     Suck it!!
Yours always,
Kemp The American Taxpayer

97

 If I am going to be paying for some other family's health insurance (and food and shelter and every other damn thing), then I sure as hell better be able to set their bedtimes and see their report cards.  Otherwise, this adoption is off.

I heard this same sentiment from an old oilfield driller a long time ago when I was out on his location and asked him if I could get a soda out of his cooler. He said, "I got a rule about that: My own kids exempted of course, but if I gotta feed ya, then I get to fuck ya. Grab you a coke and we'll go back behind those fresh water tanks and you can drop your drawers and grab your ankles."

I managed to wait until I got back to town and bought my own coke.

98 Hey American Taxpayer we just voted away all your shit. Pay up.

99
> because the plan counts on reaping a lot of tax money from "gold-plated" insurance plans.

Speaking of "gold-plated" insurance. You know who has those polices. Coal Miners (among others). They DEMAND great insurance because their work is so dangerous and debilitating.

Hey, UNION COAL MINERS!. How's that ASS taste?

100 98 Hey American Taxpayer we just voted away all your shit. Pay up. Posted by: 52% of the voting public

I'm in the 48% that's armed.

101 Another thing these analyses always forget... The TOTAL cost of insurance under the new regime will be the (increased) premiums PLUS the tax increases.

102
> 21

Consider that no country has ever done away with government health care once enacted.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin

As of 1989, no communist country had ever gone non-communist (without being invaded)

103
> 29 Don't count on a Republican repeal effort if this monstrosity passes. Entitlements, once given, are nearly immortal ...

Posted by: Monty

But this time, it's different!

Seriously. Under the proposed plans the costs (to taxpayers and businesses) are immediate or soon and the benefits (free insurance!) don't kick in until 2014 or later. So if you're voting to repeal in 2010 of 2012 there are few voters who are losing something they already got and there are a lot of people paying out for nothing.

By 2020 or 2030, ok, it could be too late to repeal.

104

Do you look like Mrs. Obama?  Because HE IS TRYING TO DO SEX TO YOU!!!

Posted by: stuiec

 

No, but it looks like I'm going to need to carry a gallon jug of vasoline everywhere I go from now on...

 

105 To paraphrase the old adage: "When they have your health, they have everything."

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