War Porn: Instant Gunship

The Marines don't want to specifically buy AC-130 gunships. They have a lot of KC-130J tankers -- the same basic plane as the "Spooky" -- so they're arming up their tankers on the fly to turn them into gunships as needed.

They're adding the Spooky's cannon, the Bushmaster MK44. Here's video of it, or, actually, an upgraded 30mm version of it with airburst capability.

Thanks to rdbrewer.

Posted by: Ace at 06:42 PM

Comments

1
I want to drape my balls over the barrel while rubbing strips of bacon all over my naked body while a midget pinches my nipples.

Is that wrong?

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 06:48 PM (+FzLa)

2
Maybe it's just me, but arming and taking a flying gas tank into heavy ground fire areas sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 06:49 PM (x++TB)

3
Blaze if that's wrong I don't wanna be right.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 06:54 PM (x++TB)

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 06:48 PM (+FzLa)

Do me a solid, and see if you can get a group rate.

Posted by: krakatoa at November 26, 2009 06:55 PM (hQbvm)

the same basic plane as the "Spooky"

Racist!

Posted by: marueen dowd at November 26, 2009 06:55 PM (2qU2d)

6 I want to drape my balls over the barrel while rubbing strips of bacon all over my naked body while a midget pinches my nipples.

Is that wrong?

No, but it does infringe on my trademark. The lawyers will be in contact.

Posted by: joncelli at November 26, 2009 06:56 PM (Ko4Av)

Most efficient weapon in the AF. Only like 20? WTF.

C-130 is like 30years old, making it a spooky? Costs nothing. So the marines are Presidential rigging a tanker.

Sad, does cost benefit work at the Pentagon?

NOT

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 06:58 PM (2+9Yx)

8 1
I want to drape my balls over the barrel while rubbing strips of bacon all over my naked body while a midget pinches my nipples.

Is that wrong?
Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 06:48 PM (+FzLa)

Only if the midget is a naked Robert Reich sporting a two inch long chubby.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 26, 2009 06:58 PM (QECjC)

9 Kemp don't say crap like that. You know what you said.

I'm really getting tired of the cutesy ways some people are coming up with to get the n-word out there.

Posted by: ace at November 26, 2009 06:59 PM (jlvw3)

10 Do the rest of us a small mercy and stop dragging us down to that level.

Posted by: ace at November 26, 2009 06:59 PM (jlvw3)

11
Hell they could pull 130s out of Davis-Monthan and turn them into gunships.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 07:00 PM (x++TB)

12 O/T and just for fun. Btw, apologizing in advance if this has been posted elsewhere in Moron Nirvana here at AoS.

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Posted by: Twinks at November 26, 2009 07:09 PM (LeFbD)

13 sexy like an HIV-infected pre-op tranny. the u.s. military is swarming with moonbats in high places. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted by: John Birch at November 26, 2009 07:14 PM (DtTM9)

14
Why does the NFL network exist?

What fookin' lame-brain though it would be a good idea to broadcast the Giants vs Broncos game only on the NFL Network?

Lamesauce!

Posted by: a.k.a. the man with no name at November 26, 2009 07:17 PM (UUkhk)

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Stream it online, it'll be on channelsurfing or justin tv.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 07:21 PM (x++TB)

16
yeah, but still...

Posted by: a.k.a. the man with no name at November 26, 2009 07:22 PM (Uf4aV)

OK, should I just say that the current administration is not supporting our armed forces and they have figured out how to get things done with out the democratic congresses approval or "The Ones" approval.

Seems like to me this is a no brainier.

The current administration is totally anti-military, da huh, they are democrats. So our boys figure out a way to save their ass?

What do you call this Ace? I call it smart and yes it is going around the system. Soooo?

Touchy feely tonight?

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:22 PM (2+9Yx)

18 Could we maybe get a presentation on the 30 mm Bushmaster cannon, without that creepy bald-headed drama queen guy inserting himself into the narrative? He is not needed.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 26, 2009 07:23 PM (tm15w)

19 7 C-130 is like 30 years old???

Posted by: Dave at November 26, 2009 07:24 PM (fZ3++)

Maybe it's just me, but arming and taking a flying gas tank into heavy ground fire areas sounds like a recipe for disaster.

It was a dark, moonless night, and the aircrew had night vision gear. The poor chaps on the ground never heard it coming.

Posted by: We're Scientists, man at November 26, 2009 07:27 PM (JFNQ7)

#19

Actually more than FIFTY years old!

http://tinyurl.com/qq33y

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:30 PM (2+9Yx)

22 Kemp, I think Ace was specifically referring to your sentence, "So the marines are Presidential rigging a tanker." He believes you used the term "Presidential rigging" as a substitute for "N*gg*r Rigging.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 26, 2009 07:30 PM (QECjC)

23
without that creepy bald-headed drama queen guy inserting himself into the narrative?

Dr Phil Terry Bradshaw is in the vid?

Posted by: a.k.a. the man with no name at November 26, 2009 07:31 PM (UUkhk)

C-130 is like 30 years old???

About 56, actually

Posted by: 141 Driver at November 26, 2009 07:31 PM (JFNQ7)

We have better technology in mothballs!

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Posted by: Boris at November 26, 2009 07:34 PM (gSxol)

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wow they're some fugly chicks

thanks HD

Posted by: a.k.a. the man with no name at November 26, 2009 07:36 PM (Uf4aV)

Presumably they don't fly a re-purposed C-130 tanker into battle with its refueling tanks filled with kerosene. Just a guess.

Actually, maybe they could fill the tanks with fire retardent. Win! Stops a bullet, puts out a fire, rains an unpleasant liquid on the enemy in case of a hit.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 26, 2009 07:36 PM (tm15w)

#22

Well I'll be damn, there are people who would suggest that I am RACIST by using the word Presidential?

Would gerry rig have worked better?

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:36 PM (2+9Yx)

29 I've seen better kitbashes on post-Roddenberry ST:TNG

Posted by: Comic Book Guy at November 26, 2009 07:46 PM (DtTM9)

30 I thought the "Bushmaster" cannon was a 25mm and used on the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Did they upgrade it?

Posted by: sherlock at November 26, 2009 07:49 PM (ktKOD)

#22

Holy shit, Gerry rigging?

The Germans are going to be pissed.

How about I say, the Marines figured out a way to make a Catholic choice and worked it out for themselves?

No one takes up for the Catholics, will that work?

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:49 PM (2+9Yx)

Actually more than FIFTY years old!

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:30 PM (2+9Y

True enough. I worked with the Montana ANG in 1987 when they transitioned from F-106's to F-16's. At the same time, they changed their C-131 to a C-130A. I can't remember the tail number but it was from the mid 1950's. It was an old bird in 1987.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 26, 2009 07:49 PM (EhlQq)

#32

We've got C-130 stationed here in CLT, NCANG, they fly all the damn time! What a great platform!

Turn them all into spookys!

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 07:53 PM (2+9Yx)

34

Wow,... Kemp has now become a pretzel. Congratulations Kemp.

Mustard?

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 07:54 PM (+FzLa)

35 Anybody else having problems with Discovery Channel's POS video player?

Using Firefox 3.5.5, fwiw.

Posted by: Xoxotl at November 26, 2009 07:56 PM (j88uA)

36 Hey, Blazer, can girls come along too?

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 07:56 PM (Q9Cny)

37 Maybe it's just me, but arming and taking a flying gas tank into heavy ground fire areas sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 06:49 PM (x++TB)

Even the AC-130 is extremely vulnerable when the sun comes up.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 26, 2009 07:56 PM (EhlQq)

38
Hey, Blazer, can girls come along too?

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 07:56 PM (Q9Cny)

As long as your willing to sign a waiver.

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 07:58 PM (+FzLa)

Oh, yeah mustard, wtf does a pretzel mean?

Old and ugly is hard, and after three pounds of turkey and a bottle of valu rite, I am not sure where I am.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:00 PM (2+9Yx)

40 Relax Kemp, I'M not the owner of the blog that complained, am I?

Your post addressing Kemp made it seem you missed his point about the "n-word." I assumed you weren't playing dumb and tried to explain where Ace was coming from. That's ALL I tried to do. I haven't a clue about your racial views, and really don't care.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 26, 2009 08:01 PM (QECjC)

41 Ooops, your post addressing ACE, I meant.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 26, 2009 08:02 PM (QECjC)

42 And oh yeah, Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 26, 2009 08:03 PM (QECjC)

43 jury rigged

Posted by: Popcorn at November 26, 2009 08:03 PM (OOehk)

44 I jumped plenty of C130s any old timers remember C123s (T10 main)

Posted by: Dave at November 26, 2009 08:05 PM (fZ3++)

#40

Coolczech

Ace was right, I was just covering my ass.

I thought is was funny, but it appears that jokes about "The One" are sort of off the table.

PC at the AoSHQ? What next global warming?

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:06 PM (2+9Yx)

46
C123s (T10 main)

Jeez you're old Dave.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 08:06 PM (x++TB)

47 As long as your willing to sign a waiver.

Of course I wouldn't hold the Marines responsible of any burns I may receive while straddling the barrel.

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 08:08 PM (Q9Cny)

48 FYI,

C-130J is a NEW bird - They reused the basic concept but it is new design.
The regular AF canceled the program, the Marines, ANG, Coast Guard and NOAA kept it.

It can be recognized by the longer fuselage and scimitar shaped turbo-prop blades.

Posted by: Druid at November 26, 2009 08:08 PM (Gct7d)

49 Of course I wouldn't hold the Marines responsible of any burns I may receive while straddling the barrel.

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 08:08 PM (Q9Cny)

B.U.N.K.

brb

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 08:09 PM (+FzLa)

I think the idea is that building several types of pallets that can be rolled on to a C-130 and bolted down gives the USMC an option (and possibly a way around much brass) that they don't have now.

A pallet version with a Mk44 and 5000 rounds (maybe more), and maybe a 7.62mm Minigun for backup, makes a lot of sense, particularly one that takes up only the front third of the cargo bay. It gives the aircraft a chance to do something about ground problems nearby. Local air-superiority is implicit.

I don't know if the tanker version has removable tanks. There's talk about a pod mount, but this gun looks a bit big (certainly with recoil) for a w___ mount. This may be a generic C-130 option.

Posted by: Dr. Noah Zark at November 26, 2009 08:13 PM (Ym9lj)

51 46 old enough I got more time in a T10 than you got in a Tshirt

Posted by: Dave at November 26, 2009 08:14 PM (fZ3++)

52 Maybe it's just me, but arming and taking a flying gas tank into heavy ground fire areas sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 06:49 PM (x++TB)

Put the Bushmaster MK44 on oneside and wicked flame thrower on the opposite side. Hellfire from above.

Posted by: Indian Outlaw at November 26, 2009 08:21 PM (8zsWd)

C-130 and the B-52, planes you can not kill and are so redundant that replacing them would cost BILLIONS.

Who would have thought that Eisenhower would have built most of our best AF planes?

Think about that, he was first elected in 1952 and then in 1956.

Any you guys alive then?

I was, I still have a "I Like Ike" button.

Oh, he was a Republican, if you youngsters don't remember.

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:22 PM (2+9Yx)

Put the Bushmaster MK44 on oneside and wicked flame thrower on the opposite side. Hellfire from above.

Posted by: Indian Outlaw at November 26, 2009 08:21 PM (8zsWd)

So all they really needed was a hose to make the tanker a weapon? Leave it to the Marines to make things more complicated.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 26, 2009 08:24 PM (dQdrY)

55
hink about that, he was first elected in 1952 and then in 1956.

Any you guys alive then?

I was, I still have a "I Like Ike" button.

Oh, he was a Republican, if you youngsters don't remember.

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:22 PM (2+9Yx)

Thats funny, because I always thought McDonnell Douglas, Grumman, Vought and General Dynamics built our greatest planes back then.

Wasn't aware that a sweaty shirtless Ike was busy pounding away in his basement sculpting aluminum sheet metal into exotic military aircraft during wee hours of the night.

Please tell me more.

Posted by: Blazer at November 26, 2009 08:32 PM (+FzLa)

56
Blazer has given in to the grumpy side of the force.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 08:36 PM (x++TB)

57
What about Baker-Hughes, they built shit, right?

Posted by: a.k.a. the man with no name at November 26, 2009 08:38 PM (UUkhk)

58 Wasn't aware that a sweaty shirtless Ike was busy pounding away in his basement sculpting aluminum sheet metal into exotic military aircraft during wee hours of the night.

More impressively, he beat that metal into shape with his cock.

Posted by: nickless at November 26, 2009 08:39 PM (MMC8r)

#55

See post 21, go to link read the date that the C-130 was first produced, think about this, it was BEFORE 1960, you weren't born, obviously, so you won't remember any of this shit.

Oh, and Blazer every heard of the SR 71? Also started under IKE.

Do they teach history anymore? Obviously not in public schools. Sorry Blazer.

Oh, my I am getting a little snarky here, sorry.

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:39 PM (2+9Yx)

60 Of course I wouldn't hold the Marines responsible of any burns I may receive while straddling the barrel.

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 08:08 PM (Q9Cny)

That's what lotion is for...

Posted by: Can't help it at November 26, 2009 08:40 PM (JFNQ7)

61 Or ointment. Lots of ointment.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 26, 2009 08:42 PM (Ym9lj)

Actually after winning WW2, Ike came home and took a job a Boeing and worked on the line, first building B-47 and then B-52, that's how Mamie, his wife, got that great retirement package.

President? Shit no union benefits, Mamie took the Boeing retirement.

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:45 PM (2+9Yx)

63 Blazer has given in to the grumpy side of the force.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 08:36 PM (x++TB)

Get Off MyLawn !

Posted by: Darth Blazer at November 26, 2009 08:50 PM (+FzLa)

64 That's what lotion is for...

Or ointment. Lots of ointment.

It does get a bit tricky...what with the bacon and all.

Posted by: KelliD at November 26, 2009 08:51 PM (Q9Cny)

65 More impressively, he beat that metal into shape with his cock.

Posted by: nickless at November 26, 2009 08:39 PM (MMC8r)

It was only aluminum. A-

PGiS could do two nose cones at once.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 26, 2009 08:55 PM (dQdrY)

It would be kinda interesting to see one of these KC-130Js turned into a big ol' airborne flame thrower.

Just discharge the fuel tanks over the target and drop a flare on it.

Knowing something like that might be overhead at any time could sure put a crimp in the enemy's morale.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 26, 2009 08:57 PM (W8Psg)

Oh, and Blazer every heard of the SR 71? Also started under IKE.

Do they teach history anymore? Obviously not in public schools. Sorry Blazer.

Oh, my I am getting a little snarky here, sorry.

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 08:39 PM (2+9Yx)

You're giving all the credit to Ike. I'm giving the free-market its due and the engineering community its due. Ike coined the term "Industrial Military Complex" and gave a pretty important speech about it that libtards everywhere like to reference to this day.

Posted by: Darth Blazer at November 26, 2009 08:58 PM (+FzLa)

68
PGiS could do two nose cones at once.

Oh, nice. Tryptophan comas are wearing off I see.

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Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 09:01 PM (x++TB)

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to Dang Straights:

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Posted by: jason at November 26, 2009 09:06 PM (/N/+G)

Just discharge the fuel tanks over the target and drop a flare on it.

There's a crusie missile that does that even better. Atomizes the fuel and ignites it over gathered enemy troops or tanks, and they die gasping for air.

Posted by: Cruiser at November 26, 2009 09:09 PM (gSxol)

75 Greetings:

My favorite Platoon Sergeant used to say, "If it moves, put a gun on it; if it still moves, put another gun on it."

Posted by: 11B40 at November 26, 2009 09:10 PM (Wwpsc)

76 O/T: wow this story has six threads on Zero Hedge..

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Sweet. Cowboys won, 'skins lost. JINTS losing.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 26, 2009 09:42 PM (x++TB)

82 All I am saying is give war a chance.

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 26, 2009 09:42 PM (GkYyh)

Oh, and Blazer every heard of the SR 71? Also started under IKE.

Kelly Johnson at the Skunk Works WAS involved with both projects. That man deserves a thread of his own one day. Freakin' genius.

Posted by: 141 Driver at November 26, 2009 09:43 PM (JFNQ7)

Kelly Johnson helped develop:

P-38 Lightning, F-80 Shooting Star, F-104 Starfighter, C-130 Hercules, F-117 Nighthawk, U-2/TR-1, and oh yeah, the SR-71 Blackbird. Again, freakin' genius.

Posted by: 141 Driver at November 26, 2009 09:52 PM (JFNQ7)

#83

10-4 that, I am outa here, happy thanksgiving to all. to much turkey and wine.

good night at 10? I am a whimp!

Posted by: Kemp at November 26, 2009 09:54 PM (2+9Yx)

86 A C-130 gunship without a Gatling is like Dr. No without Ursula Andress.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 26, 2009 10:00 PM (Ta/V3)

87 The Marines would love to own and operate a squadron of AC-130Us. Hell, the Air Force wants more.

The problem is, they are extraordinarily expensive airplanes. There's a hell of a lot more to a dedicated AC-130 than strapping some guns to the side. They have some of the very finest sensors and some pretty fine jamming equipment aboard.

How much does a U-Boat cost? More than an F-22 by some accounts.

So the Marines are never gonna be able to afford them. But if they can generate a low-cost system to provide some level of persistent close support for troops in contact, they can live with that.

Here's a little background on gunships:

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

You'll notice I covered this program in June.

Posted by: XBradTC at November 26, 2009 10:00 PM (y0E9v)

88 I almost blew a fuse. I thought that said "the War on Porn"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 26, 2009 10:07 PM (IqfKc)

89 FTR, Kelly Johnson had no role in the development of the F-117. His handpicked successor, Ben Rich was the guy in charge. Ben had an excellent book about it, Skunk Works published that also covered the development of the U-2, the SR-71 and several other projects.

Posted by: XBradTC at November 26, 2009 10:13 PM (y0E9v)

@84, plus his first project, the 1932 Studebaker Indianapolis 500 car, a stock engine and frame in Johnson's body design -- that finished second. He didn't just get good; he started good.

I can remember it being a long-ass drive from the Air Force Academy into Colorado Springs. Now, as you come out South Gate onto Academy Blvd, the first cross street before the mall is Kelly Johnson Blvd.

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I agree.

ace, heres my argument.

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#20 "Maybe it's just me, but arming and taking a flying gas tank into heavy ground fire areas sounds like a recipe for disaster".

The 3500 gal refueling tank rolls out to convert the bird into cargo/paratroop configuration. Marines had F and R models when I got out of these units in '77, Wish we had fun toys like the spooky when I was in. These platforms won't operate until you establish air superiority in that area. What a great close air support asset.

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