1

Of Course: ClimateGate File Was Leaked to BBC In October... And Of Course They Failed to Report Their Scoop

Oh. My. Fookin. Gawd.

2 Integrity? What's that?

3 Of Course: ClimateGate File Was Leaked to BBC In October... And Of Course They Failed to Report Their Scoop




NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!

4 Happy Thanksgiving, fellow morons.

I'm half in the bag, fighting off a cold, and --- dammit --- I'm going to wake up tomorrow safe in the knowledge that there won't be a glacier at my door step, or warm salty polar ice cap melt, or a polar bear come the dawn.

but mostly that there won't be a polar bear.

It'd be too gamey to serve with the wine I bought.

Happy T-day.

5

"The cover-up is worse than the crime."

WHERE did I hear that?

Oh well, at least Obama will be on TV again, and that's all that's important.

6 Umm, ok then.

Calendars. Get your calendars right here!

7 Whereas the BBC is publicly funded and therefore enormously resistant to the pressures of the real world, the rest of the media in Britain and in the USA are a bit more sensitive to market forces.  At some point, they will have to make the conscious choice between continuing to serve as the propaganda organ of the Left -- thus losing all credibility and a critical mass of readers/viewers/listeners -- or rediscovering the notion of journalistic integrity and truth-telling, which is the only way they can salvage their commercial viability in the long run.

8 Ace, something's wrong with the thingy.

9 burberry scarf | CD Keys

10
The controversy surrounding the global warming scandal today deepened after a BBC correspondent admitted he was sent the leaked emails more than a month before they were made public. I find that hard to believe in view of these dates on the last few files in the dump:

1257532857.txtate: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:40:57 -0700
1257546975.txtate: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:36:15 -0700
1257847147.txtate: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:59:07 +0100 (CET)
1257874826.txtate: Tue Nov 10 12:40:26 2009
1257881012.txtate: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:23:32 -0500
1257888920.txtate: Tue Nov 10 16:35:20 2009
1257888920.txt: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:35:37 +0000
1258039134.txtate: Thu Nov 12 10:18:54 2009
1258053464.txtate: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:17:44 -0000

11
BBC

Big Barack Channel

12 Um, fine, he was sent the ones that existed at the time or shortly before.

Point? Good Lord.

I guess he must be lying, even though lying in this way puts him in a bad light.

13 Can we say this scandal is unprecedented?

Well, actually NO. All of the Lamestream Media has been exposed as untrustworthy partisans. And I'm sick of it.

14 6 Umm, ok then.

Calendars. Get your calendars right here!

Posted by: Charlie Johnstoned at November 25, 2009 08:42 PM (8WOM0)

Charles, I know I was mean to you before, and I said some bad things to you on your own site, and you banned me (rightfully so I might add), and I came back, and you banned me again (again - rightfully so), but I want to let you know that there are no hard feeling and that I would be happy to inform on climate denying fellow travelers now that I see you really have co-opted the entire media and now I finally see the only other choice than obedience, is death.

Well played good sir!

15

ooooohhh. you're so banned from the internet funnyboy

sharmuta, ban him

16 BBC did the right thing. Remember, they're peer-reviewed, so STFU.

17

you too jim in sd

oh wait, i banned you twice

oh well, three times is a charm

18 charlie don't surf

19 18 charlie don't surf

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 25, 2009 08:54 PM (hCQG5)

REPORTED

Get 'em Charles!

20
Just in time for Christmas. The Charles Johnson anti-Christmas snow-globe from the Franklin Mint. Shake it up and see a washed up jazz musician flick your creationist ass the bird in the middle of a blizzard. Bah Humbug fascist wingnuts ! Available for a limited time only on LuLu for $19.95

Get it while supplies last ! Don't be disappointed.

21 MinTruth = MiniTru

22 did somebody say BBC?

23 There's an Elvis Costello song, "Hand in Hand"...

Good heavens, I just downloaded This Year's Model earlier this week and I got to hear "Hand in Hand" for the first time in nearly 20 years.

Coincidence? I think not!

Costello was an interesting alternative to the arty, pretentious 1970s "progressive" rock with long, drawn out 15-20 minute long pieces that frequently took up a whole side of a vinyl record. In contrast, Costello wrote short, punchy pop tunes with a lot of bite.

24 We have been played for fools by the left for a long time now, and weak minded, unknowlegable, allow it.

25 Now all the world knows that it is the Brits who are the dirty, stinking liars of history. Told ya.

26

19  got him, i'm sending mandymanners to 'correct' him now

i just hope she/he/it gets there before midnight, ya know

(although it would make for a good photo for next year's calander)

27 Well, Jeebus!  I go out for a couple of cocktails and Ace goes nuclear with the posts.  Nice Elvis ref, babe!  So, what does a high-ranking Ewok do for Thanksgiving?  Do you put aside your affinity for hobo-on-the-hoof for a day and do some turkey and stuffing somewhere?  I can't tell you how much I want you to be happy! 

Yeah, okay, I might be a little likkered up.  So fuckin' sue me!

28 I heard in the distant past science was different and that a scientist's theories were put to the test by others. Sounds crazy, I know. Today's science is certainly more entertaining.

29 OregonMuse is getting all Patrick Bateman.... Tell us about Phil Collins!

30 Great.
Now I'm gonna have "Hand in Hand" stuck in my head.

Actually, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

31 Between this, and ACORN, and Obama tanking right and left, this has not been a good week for the lefties.

So it's time to kick them while they're down and dance upon their broken, injured bodies while they shriek in agony.

And afterwards, to enjoy a fine bottle of vintage Schadenfreude. Savor it. It smells like ass and flop sweat.

32 OregonMuse is getting all Patrick Bateman.... Tell us about Phil Collins!

Fook 'im.

33 -
; fuck it, Jim  This model blows. so here's an AGW joke
; The Innuit  is getting ready for the yearly hunt and
; he goes to the snow machine repair shop
;the mechanic at the shop says - "Say it looks like you just blew a seal"
; the Innuit says "Never mind what I look like,
; just fix the damn snow machine."
; ~ ba dump bump ~
;
;
;
;because native americans perform oral sex on sea mammals
;
;
;
;I'm told
;
;
;
;c'mon this climate modeling garbage sucks.
;
;
;
; if you tell Phil about this I'm so leaking these files
;
;
;

34 Now I'm gonna have "Hand in Hand" stuck in my head.

It beats the living crap out of those "Small World" tv commercials.  Somebody needs to file a class action about that.  I've almost hurt myself trying to flip channels so I don't get an incurable earworm from that shit.

35

They couldn't polish this turd so they tried to hide it.

36

 It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism.

Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

 Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds.

But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

37 ""'The controversy surrounding the global warming scandal today deepened after a BBC correspondent admitted he was sent the leaked emails more than a month before they were made public. I find that hard to believe in view of these dates on the last few files in the dump""'

I'm looking at nefarious emails that date back all the way to 1999. We are talking 4000 documents.

38 My guess is that the BBC reporter only received a small portion of emails - not the giant dump of emails that was leaked to the web recently.

Or, he just received one forwarded email, which contained a series of back and forth replies on a single topic in which he was mentioned.

Perhaps the leaker was testing if the journalist was interested in taking the ball and running with the files.

In which case - EPIC FAIL - the journalist lost the scoop of his career.

39 Phil Collins works best as the drummer of Genesis.

Witness any of the earlier Genesis work or, especially, his work on "Seconds Out" which was pre "Earth, Wind, and Genesis" and post-Gabriel.

40

 I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece.

i have to disagree, abacab was their masterpiece, it not only showed their full growth but they clicked as a group like they never would again.

also, mike rutherford had a solo album also with one release off it, some chick's name if i remember correctly, anyone know the song by chance?

41 Les Anglais malhonnêtes

42 This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Jim, I haven't thought of that song in years, but you're right.  It really is a very cool tune.  And Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!  I hope you are going to eat well and in good company.

43 ugggh, maxine according to the wife

44

The controversy surrounding the global warming scandal today deepened after a BBC correspondent admitted he was sent the leaked emails more than a month before they were made public.

I call bullshit.

The New York Times, The Washington Post and the CRU all said the data was hacked only four days before it was made public.

45 The New York Times, The Washington Post and the CRU all said the data was hacked only four days before it was made public.

Posted by: Tinian at November 25, 2009 09:13 PM (7+pP9)

Makes it seem more like an inside job.

46

In reference to 36:

I believe we all felt the pain it is to be an "Undocumented Worker" here in the US in the powerful and soulful song "Illegal alien".

47 Posted by: charles johnson at November 25, 2009 09:10 PM (PBkhG)

Might be time to change your sock . . . I think you're talking about "All I Need is a Miracle."  Meh.

48 Down dings for all you morons.  Report on the <strong>REAL</strong> news like google and Michelle Obama monkey pics

49 ROTFLOL Brian Dennehy was a much better drummer

50 Jim, I haven't thought of that song in years, but you're right.  It really is a very cool tune.  And Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!  I hope you are going to eat well and in good company.

Posted by: Peaches at November 25, 2009 09:13 PM (9Wv2j)

Thank you Peaches, and "Patric bateman" brought back memory my favorite funny book ever.

Enjoy!

http://tiny.cc/TbP5j

51 Anyone want to give odds that other media outlets were not offered the file? 

The BBC running its mouth about this increases the likelyhood their source, the leaker is blown.  It also sort of kills the "Russian Hacker" line of bullshit.

My theory is this reporter knew his masters would sit on the story - and directed the leaker to find another method of dissemination.

52

53 WTF with all the Phil Collins stuff?  Are you guys on ritalin?

54 Anyone want to give odds that other media outlets were not offered the file?

Offered the file?  I am a drunken, unemployed moron and I was all over it last Thursday night, compliments of AoS ONT morons.  We take no prisoners on this.  And, no.  There was no hacker.  This was a leak, pure and simple.  God bless the leaker, doing right in a world gone horribly wrong.

55

I didn't post #52.. Unless maybe by accident.

56 This is a huge cabal. Forget the shovels. We'll need backhoes to dispose of these fuckers.

57 53 WTF with all the Phil Collins stuff?  Are you guys on ritalin?

Posted by: John Galt at November 25, 2009 09:21 PM (Ylv1H)

I have a new stereo, please listen to it while I put on this rain coat for no apparent reason.

58

http://tiny.cc/TbP5j

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 25, 2009 09:18 PM (H7Rlw)

Now, that was funny! 

59 Yeah, no artist brings back the fond memories better than Rob Zombie.

60

Seconds Out was their swansong.  "Earth, Wind & Genesis", not only extremely accurate but funny as hell.

Collins is a very good drummer, but remember, Mickey Dolenz is a drummer too.

61 I like the shenanigans going on in New Zealand. Their talking about it at wattsupwiththat...

62 So the liberals are going to be frothing at mouth and soon about this.

Anyone else remember the family in NYC that lived carbon neutral FOR A YEAR? I just read about it.

They didn't use a car. They didn't use the subway.

No packaged food.

No plastics.

Made their own cleaning supplies.

No toilet paper.

No disposable diapers.

Did their laundry in the tub. (Now figure out where they washed the diapers)

And now they are finding out that they were LIED to. They went through things you and I think are absolute insanity. And they did it to 'save the planet'.

And it was all a LIE.

Just think about that for a second.

63 Hopefully the decline will not be hidden:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mplajb&s=6

64 Mortis, srsly?  No toilet paper?  I don't even wanna know. 

65 Posted by: Peaches

Yes, Peaches. And diapers. Where were they washed?

For a lie.

66 Who do we contact at MSNBC to run these emails. This would be a perfect trap.  They cannot deny that they did not receice these emails. Hell, send it to them all!

67 Rob Zombie? Never heard of him. http://tinyurl.com/253y9h

68 imagine there was no warming/ its easy if you try
nothing to sort your trash for/ no obeying a lie
imagine all the people/ doing WTF they want
you-hoo-hoo-hoo may say-ay that I'm a dreamer/ but it turns out I was right all along

69 There is no snow in the Charles Johnson anti-Christmas snow-globe, Global Warming melted it all!
Don't you marketing guys know anything?

70 If the leaker is revealed, I suggest he set up a "legal defense/beer fund" and a paypal account.

71 Hmmmm.

Isn't Hansen, of GISS/NASA + asshat fame, involved in this?

I know I've read previously that it's impossible to get actual raw temperature data from him.  I wonder just how many laws these ass-clowns have broken.

72

imho, Bonham was the best Drummer of the late 60's thru 70's.

No One has been able to duplicate his style, feel, and general groove.

Dont believe me? Which Band has been most bootlegged ever?

Look it up, and while there, catch JHB at his best. Torrent and the like help,

Alot of it is readily available.  P Collins is/was great. not in the same vein tho...

73 Perhaps the leaker was testing if the journalist was interested in taking the ball and running with the files.

Lacking implicit trust, you have to treat it like a dope deal.  We'll give you 2 kilos now and if that goes well, we'll think about 50 kilos.

Basically an interview. 

74 @38
So true! EPIC FAIL of the millenium. Woody & Birnbaum took down the oppo and made thousands of minimees trying to do the same. Talk about getting a scholarship from a team that just went D3. It fell in your f'n lap, bro!

75 68 imagine there was no warming/ its easy if you try
nothing to sort your trash for/ no obeying a lie
imagine all the people/ doing WTF they want
you-hoo-hoo-hoo may say-ay that I'm a dreamer/ but it turns out I was right all along

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 25, 2009 09:45 PM (hCQG5)

--Friggin' awesome.  Were you watching Glee? :p

76 72 - older I get, the more I believe that Ringo was the best drummer ever in rock.

Put any big name drummer in his place and pretty much all of them would over-do it. Man had finesse.

77 logprof - no. kind of a brain fart, actually

my gf watches that shizz tho

78 older I get, the more I believe that Ringo was the best drummer ever in rock.

Put any big name drummer in his place and pretty much all of them would over-do it. Man had finesse.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 25, 2009 10:03 PM (hCQG5)

Two words:

Stewart Copeland

79 Drummers?  Charlie Watts.  Un-fuckin-touchable.  The rest are just, well, the rest. 

80 I think the Mail Online got this waaaaaayyyy the fuck wrong.  Don't be surprised by journaljizzers on either side of a story being too lazy to get it right.

I saw the BBC guy's own blog post several days ago.  He just confirmed that one or more emails he saw in the zip file was a match for the same email(s) in his own files.  (Steve McIntyre did the same thing, and I am sure others did the same -- maybe even that apologist Revkin, the Somewhat Predictable.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/

It's OK to despise the Beeb about AGW, cuz they are a major part of this cosmic fuck up, but at least get the freakin' stories straight.  Hudson is not Black, both work at the Beeb.  One was Mann's personal toady.  The other, not so much.

There were emails from November in the zip.  Check w/ McIntyre's post on when his last FOI rejection letter was dated (the day after the last emails in the zip) and everything gets a lot more clear.

81 I may be an asshole, but I Can drum!

82

76 evil.

I was told not long ago that Ringo played drums as a lefty, on a right hand kit.

Kind of makes sense cause no one popular today sounds like Ringo, either.

As a drummer, when I hear those songs, All songs really, I wonder what made it all sound different.

83 Ace, you are being much kinder than I in guessing the reason the BBC presenter SAT -- fucking !!!SAT!!! -- on these e-mails.

Damn Safari won't let me make fancy letters with bold 'n' stuff.

84 arhooley, he only had his own copies of the emails he was involved in.  the mail online douchebags got it wrong  read it for yourself.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/

save your disdain for that asshole Black and Beeb management.  they deserve it.

85 82  didn't know that. cool

86

Stewart Copeland?  Mr Bandaids? Got blisters Copeland?  BWAAHAAAHHH.

Do Do Do

Thats all I got to say to you.

87 81 I may be an asshole, but I Can drum!

It's not like it's even remotely difficult.

88 Global warming always meant, for academics, besides anything else, one thing: party time!

No more worrying about grant money. And the grant money wasn't some pittance; mountains of cash were to be grabbed. You could go on the television and be treated like you were some kind of savior-Prometheus fighting against Big Oil. People like Al Gore talked to you!

And of course since you're an arrogant snob you get to fight with dissenters with a particular sense of superiority of the kind irresistible to ivory-tower climbers. But the deal gets even better. We've pretty much gone through your typical leftie professor's wet dream, but are we done? Oh no. You're silly. You, Mr. Global Warmist Professor, you also get to tell the government what to do. And the government will try to do it! The distinctive elitism of the laboratory, calling the shots by proxy.

What academic wouldn't sign on to this deal? What academic wouldn't do everything possible in their expertise to make it seem true? And if you think about the ancillaries, media and political gulping of the global warmist story in one-and-a-quarter bites isn't hard to figure out either.

Money money money! Everyone gets money but you and me. The special people get the money. The ones who are better than us. They know what's best.

Global warmist scheme = money grab. Fun time!

89

http://tiny.cc/E4oUD

 

Dirty Indian giving Scandi libtard pirate whores! 

90

My unedumicated moron guess? If this 1/2 degree increase is true, it is because we have used more Macadam in the last Century. No, I didn't use the term blacktop! Don't call me a racerist.

I think they should study that angle. We all know who runs the paving bussiness. Try shutting down "Joey Bagadonuts" paving, loan sharking and sports book. We should all drive our Priuses on dirt roads. Fill the potholes with the homless.

91

87

Hows Pammy?

92 Posted by: jc at November 25, 2009 10:23 PM (ug69i)
---------------

Oh. Wow, good thing, my stomach doesn't have room for another ulcer. I had the impression he got the whole 62MB wad.

93 To explain in more detail and bore, politicians will invest their money in various enterprises tailored to government perks for "green" business, get sweetheart deals on "green" properties and such, like Dodd and others did with Countrywide. Scientists on the warmist train will join hands with the "green" industries to develop their products and regulate carbon emissions at lucrative salaries, in the same way some scientists work today for private corporations, some selectively criticized by the left. Of course we must continue monitoring earth's climate with much fieldwork and analysis paid for by taxpayers that will undoubtedly be very comfortable to scientists' pocketbooks. Saving the earth from humans on the taxpayer's money is a big job don't you know. There's way more than global warming after all.

It's so ludicrous that such a thing could come to pass that everyone is going through the motions now, except the true believers and the pundits (especially the true believers among the pundits). Everyone knows that the Indians and the Reds aren't going to sign up for jack that harms their ability to make money, and the Americans aren't either, no matter what the president and the ruling party thinks.

But in the meantime appearances must be kept because fanatics just don't go away otherwise they'd be something less annoying. The warmists will continue to throw up lots of hot air and much money will be spent on conferences and such but the failure of any legally binding climate deal (never gonna happen, never never ever ever, making money has been king since money existed, every system except capitalism is a rigged game for certain people to make money, including communism) means that the socialist green utopia of tomorrow is about as likely as marijuana being legalized any time soon (to a pothead's point of view). Very unfortunate on both. Or maybe just one.

94

There is no black and white, only shades of...

95 I'm pretty sure Jim in San Diego is doing Bates (Christian Bale) from American Psycho.

Last month, though, I started listening to 1980-81 Genesis. Listened to Abacab 20 times, Keep It Dark -- a song I'd completely forgotten about -- like 30.

96 Oooh, Monkees reference.

97 >>>Ace, you are being much kinder than I in guessing the reason the BBC presenter SAT -- fucking !!!SAT!!! -- on these e-mails.

A boss threatening to fire you is a pretty good reason to sit on a story. If that's what it was. I am guessing it's that because he previously showed a willingness to question global warming (the science is settled, the debate is over -- added by MinTruth).

98 Ah, I see, everyone knew he was doing Patrick Bateman.

I was wondering how that started. (I was reading from the bottom up.)

99 MinTru. (Corrected by MinTru.)

100 Ace!  Are you going to your mom's for Thanksgiving?

101 Try doing it with one arm!

102 peaches,

I can't, I'm stuck in California for a few days more.

Wanted to but can't.

103

101 Try doing it with one arm!

I did!

104

I can top that.  Imagine a President who has no brain!!!

At least  Def Leppads drummer has one arm.

105 You're here?!?  Wow.  Are you here for all those hobo-feeding things they do on Thanksgiving?  They'll be all plumped up by this time tomorrow . . . mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm.

106 If a researcher accepts money from the gas or coal industry, the msm quickly labels them as a bought and paid for corporate whore, and their work is ignored.  However, if a researcher accepts money from corporations with ties to forms of renewable energy or from governments who are looking for a rationale for huge tax hikes and for more control of its citizen's lives, the msn labels them as a world expert.  I hope all these "experts" will soon be doing a perp walk led by The Goreacle.

107

Speaking of tree rings, think how backward that is.  You cut down a tree.  If the tree is growing FASTER over time, then there's more CO2.  On it's face it's absurd.

108 No more worrying about grant money. And the grant money wasn't some pittance; mountains of cash were to be grabbed. You could go on the television and be treated like you were some kind of savior-Prometheus fighting against Big Oil. People like Al Gore talked to you!

Consider the larger flow chart of the process:

You are given large amounts of grant money by lefty politicians to provide the pretext for those same politicians to grab vast amounts of money and power, which would be funneled to wealthy parties like GE or the Sierra Club or credits traders, who would then put money in the coffers of those same corrupt politicians.

These sainted 'scientists' were guns for hire, lining their pockets, gaining prestige, and building the lie to take all our freedoms and wealth.

109 My unedumicated moron guess? If this 1/2 degree increase is true, it is because we have used more Macadam in the last Century.

I think heat island effect is undervalued.  A few years ago when I was doing some electrical work for South Florida water management, one of the sites was a huge 20-30 square mile system of filter marshes out at the edge of the glades.  I could leave my crib here at 6:00am and it would be say 76 degrees and pleasant.  An hour later as I was passing by the big sugar mill a few miles east of Belle Glade on the way and it was 56 and freaking cold.

110

1) Scare people

2)

3) Profit

111 Uhm, P/A you think Urbanization has anything to do with my theory?

112

All ur C02 r belong to us!

I'm loading up on popcorn for the Skoal, I mean Copehagen, farce. Anybody got a line on what shithole, despot ruled, hellhole  has their arm stretched out the farthest in our direction at this Bukakkae Face Shot shindig?

113 Science Czar Holdren is hip deep in this stuff too by the way.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17183

114 #62: Anyone else remember the family in NYC that lived carbon neutral FOR A YEAR?

Big deal.  I've lived carbon neutral for years.  I just buy carbon offsets from myself.

115 It won't make a damn bit of difference to Jones if he gets fired.  Some other AGW outfit will hire him immediately.  Look at Michael "The Hockeystick" Mann.  McIntyre and other showed that not only was his work wrong, it had been deliberately designed to be wrong and produce the desired result.  And what happened to his scientific career?  Nothing.  He was snapped up right away and seems to be being used largely as an expert on how to twist models and game the system.

116 If you know without a doubt that what you are doing is rock-solid and your results are right, why would you care that people want to see your data?   The more it's scrutinized and validated, the more outstanding your science would be considered.  Would these same scientists be afraid to release and allow for review current information on the earth's flatness?

Secondly, let's imagine, that these emails had come from the RCC and discussed a church decision to hide/create/regarding the "hoax" of the virgin-birth and how the RCC would continue to perpetuate the hoax.  Think the BBC, et al would sit on that story?

Or, let's say a "news" organization obtained some classified information on methods the US government used to track money transfers between known terrorists.  Let's say the "news" organization knew the info was classified, that the methods were currently used, and that the government had documented success that could continue if only the methods remained classified.  I bet the NYT would sit on that story....don't you?

117 It would be nice to see him get fired but it would probably make as much difference as pretending to cut funding for ACORN, or pretending that banning public money for abortion makes a clean end on that turd.

Neil Peart.

118 Here is my slightly drunk, middle of the night hypothesis, complete with some big science words:

1  CO2 levels are rising
2.  Some tree rings patterns are showing growth patterns with which dendrochronology traditionally associates with increases in temperature or extended growing season.
3.  Temperatures are not rising
4.  Is it possible that the tree ring growth patterns are directly effected by the rise in CO2 as it is essentially "tree food"
5.  If the tree ring proxy data is removed due to potential multicollinearity do the BE-10 ice cores show the same divergence with respect to today's more accurate measurement techniques?
6.  If the answer to #5 is yes, did the sun short Soros?

119 #6 yes means no

120 109  Purple Avenger    You think 56 degrees is cold?  My lord.  Try -10 f !

I know.  Typical Floridian.  When we left up north it took us 18 hours to get to Daytona one cold Feb day.  We started to strip clothes the farther down we got.  Heavy cotes, then sweaters, you get the idea.  When we got there we were down to tank tops and shorts!  But the people their where cold and thought we were nuts!  I have grown to love FLA!!

121 #43  charles johnson     You have a wife?  Get the f-ck outa here!!!!  (eddie murphy)

122 Are you all crazy???!!!

Two words.

Keith Moon.

123 Ball-dippingly good.  Ball-dippingly good.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

124

As long as we're singing Costello songs:

Steve Thomas - 'nuff sed.

125 Er, uhm, Pete Thomas,  more than 'nuff sed.

126 Keeps gettin better. This is the ACORN video of AGW.

127

Nothing much to add regarding cocksucking BBC sitting on global warming fraud e-mails, but Ginger Baker could mop the floor (violently) with guys like Watts, Ringo, Collins ...

128 BarriO is the kinda bloke that will throw YOU on the grenade.

spit

129

Perhaps the leaker was testing if the journalist was interested in taking the ball and running with the files.

In which case - EPIC FAIL - the journalist lost the scoop of his career.

It was probably better in the long run that it didn't happen that way, though.  A few emails leaked to a journalist can be pretty easily spun--it's a hell of a lot harder to make a 50 MB file of emails, charts, and other documents just go away.  East Anglia is doing damage control, the BBC reporter admits he screwed up by not running with the story, and the AGW cultists at realclimate are desperately using any argument they can (including the lame "there's nothing THAT bad" and "ooh scientists are nasty to each other, big deal" arguments).

Just imagine that Ben Bernanke, Hank Paulson, and Tim Geithner sent out emails stating that their calculations on TARP showed that the bailout wasn't really necessary to save the economy, and that it was going in the shitter anyway.  And then said they were going to have to hide that information from people who were skeptical of the claims.  Can you imagine the media firestorm that would ensue for something like that? 

And TARP was just a one-time event--the CRU's scientists have been influencing the AGW debate for DECADES, with their research and data sets going out to scientists across the globe and being used as the foundation for climate studies.  The result has been an incestuous circle-jerk of manipulated or incomplete data disguised as "peer review" that's taken as a given, not something to be analyzed objectively.

No, I think it's a good thing that the media didn't pick up on this initially, because it eventually would have been snuffed out.  Now that the info is out there for everyone to look at, there's no way a sympathetic, morally compromised journalist can mute the discussion by withholding information.

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While it's true that the BBC meterologist in question received some emails back in early October, the ONLY ones he received were those that involved the concerns that Jones & the rest of the Team had with his "Where's Global Warming"  article. 

He did not say that he had received ALL of the emails (and related computer code and data) that was released in November. 

Before we all pile onto something, let's make sure that it's accurate.  There's enough smoking guns in the material that was released to blow a few sizable holes in the AGW crowd - don't give them the opportunity to duck and run by shooting at a (relatively) innocent bystander.

As noted above, what Hudson said on his blog was:   "I was forwarded the chain of emails on the 12th October, which are comments from some of the world's leading climate scientists written as a direct result of my article "Whatever Happened To Global Warming".'

Here's the email that started the "trail" that I think Hudson is referring to (contained in #1255530325.txt):

"Subject: BBC U-turn on climate

Steve, [Stephen H. Schneider]

You may be aware of this already. Paul Hudson, BBC's reporter on climate change, on Friday wrote that there's been no warming since 1998, and that pacific oscillations will force cooling for the next 20-30 years. It is not outrageously biased in presentation as are other skeptics' views.

[7]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm"

There's actually about 10 separate emails, which are related iterations of the same "chain".  It's not clear exactly which chain Hudson received  (though I've not gone back to his blog to see if he has clarified this point).

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