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Rasmussen: Republicans Extend Lead to Seven Points on Generic Ballot; Independents Favor Republicans 44-20

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Republican candidates have extended their lead over Democrats to seven points, their biggest lead since early September, in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 44% would vote for their district抯 Republican congressional candidate while 37% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent.

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Voters not affiliated with either party continue to heavily favor Republicans, 44% to 20%.

I'm curious-- if Republicans take the House in 2010, will the media even report it?

Well, I guess that's silly. Of course they will. What they have refrained from mentioning is that Democrats actually gained control of Congress in 2006.

Politico notes the former Obama supporters turned opponents are, as you'd expect, whites. It's only a matter of time before racism becomes this Administration's only policy point.

Just 39 percent of white Americans now approve of President Obama's job performance, a steep drop-off of support since he was inaugurated in January, according to the latest Gallup Poll.

In his first full week in office, starting Jan. 26, just over six in 10 white people gave him their approval. Now that number is down to under four in 10, indicating a net drop of 22 points.

Black voters, meanwhile, have continued to support Obama to the tune of approximately 90 percent. And Democrats and liberals give Obama approval ratings of above 80 percent.

"Though he maintains widespread loyalty among Democrats, the small loss in support he has seen from his fellow partisans seems to be exclusively from white Democrats," Gallup's finding says.

Thanks to DrewM. and AHFF Geoff.


Posted by: Ace at 06:02 PM



Comments

1

Democrats are in control of Congress?  When did this happen and why wasn't I told?  I'm sure I would have said something about it if I had known.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (vtuZz)

2
You don't need to switch a swing voter.  It's enough to fill him with enough doubt that he stays home on election day.

Posted by: MikeO at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (dYNrR)

3 Love me!

Posted by: Angelina Jolie at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (pUfK9)

4 erg wept

Posted by: toby928 at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (PD1tk)

5 Voters not affiliated with either party continue to heavily favor Republicans, 44% to 20%.

Man a year is a long time but that there? That's a political death sentence.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (FCWQb)

6 Was it the GOP List of Principals?

Was it Climategate?

Was it ObamaCare?

Was it revelations of ACORN?

Was it squishies like Parker, Buckley, Noonan and Brooks finally waking up with an intellectual hangover?

Or was it those pictures of Katie Couric grinding?

Posted by: David in San Diego at November 24, 2009 06:06 PM (GF+6V)

7

It's enough to fill him with enough doubt that he stays home on election day.

Having convictions is hard.

Posted by: huerfano at November 24, 2009 06:07 PM (vtuZz)

8 It's enough to fill him with enough doubt thunderbird that he stays home on election day.

FTFY

Posted by: toby928 at November 24, 2009 06:07 PM (PD1tk)

9
I got a fevah !!

Posted by: Blazer at November 24, 2009 06:07 PM (+FzLa)

10 Well it's a well known fact only whites can be racsists. Rev Wright and Rev Jackson and Rev Sharpton told me so!

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 24, 2009 06:07 PM (0GFWk)

11 There are going to be a lot of "shovel ready" projects to bury the Dems next November.

Posted by: MPFS Turkey Fish Sticks yeah! at November 24, 2009 06:07 PM (iYbLN)

12 Oh fuck - here we go.

Posted by: Reginald Denny at November 24, 2009 06:08 PM (pUfK9)

13 Not surprising. The only thing the Dems are good at is flapping their gums about how much better they'd be in power than the GOP. Funny that as soon as they get that power, the public disagrees.

It'd be nice to know if Rassmussen is also finding a preference for divided government, which is probably driving some of this shift, in addition to the anti-incumbent animus he found.

Posted by: BS, Inc. at November 24, 2009 06:08 PM (H8eTR)

14 "Though he maintains widespread loyalty among Democrats, the small loss in support he has seen from his fellow partisans seems to be exclusively from white Democrats," Gallup's finding says.

I hereby denounce myself

Posted by: White Democrat at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (F+U5/)

15 Americans re-elect culture of corruption!

Posted by: AP November 3, 2010 at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (GtYrq)

16 Hey, is that the Reichstag burning?

Posted by: are you parnoid enough at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (PD1tk)

17 It's enough to fill him with enough doubt thunderbird that he stays home on election day.

I prefer Mogen David, thank you very much.

Posted by: Typical New York Moneyman at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (GF+6V)

18 I better get credit for this uptick or I'll fire more people.

Posted by: Michael Steele On The Beach In Cabo at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (EL+OC)

19 I saw that racist statement at Politico and thought....Oh boy...here it comes. The reason for Obama's sliding ( plummeting? ) popularity is because of teh crackers.

Posted by: Bosk at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (pUO5u)

20 Wake up Black People!

Posted by: channeling Danial Carver at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (LlaBi)

21 Wait, what?  The Democrats are in charge?

Jeebus, where have I been?

Posted by: The Independents at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (pUfK9)

22 The only thing missing from this poll is a noose.

Posted by: lets see how many old memes I can cram into a thread at November 24, 2009 06:11 PM (PD1tk)

23 While these polls mean little with respect to the actual election, they can drive candidate recruitment. Some Dem incumbents are going to start looking at greener pastures, or at a minimum, not renewing their DC condo leases

Posted by: Jean at November 24, 2009 06:12 PM (wNfla)

24

In his first full week in office, starting Jan. 26, just over six in 10 white people gave him their approval. Now that number is down to under four in 10, indicating a net drop of 22 points.

Is it racist to say that maybe they are the ones who started noticing that the hope and change were more like hype and change for the worse?  Of course it is.  I, too, denounce myself.

Posted by: huerfano at November 24, 2009 06:12 PM (vtuZz)

25 As the economy has worsened and the deficit has exploded. As the health care debate has sewn seeds of discord across the country. As Obama bows to anyone who'll let him. One group of our fellow citizens continues to support our president at a 90% clip. I wonder why?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 24, 2009 06:13 PM (GGgoa)

26 Bigotry and Racism are characterized as blind, uninformed hatred and as such are unacceptable. What do you call it when you hate somebody because of reasoned observation and judgement about their bad decisions and behavior. I call it being sentient.

Posted by: LGoPs at November 24, 2009 06:13 PM (v/rEn)

27 So let me see now... the independents favor Republicans by a more than 2-1 margin?  And this is after the Democrats and the MSM (BIRM) have done their level best to portray Republicans as a bunch of crazy birther tenther gun-totin' lunatic Glenn Beck fanboys?

Wow.  2010 is gonna be great.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:14 PM (F+U5/)

28 Whites are fed up with this racism BS. I could care less if someone calls us/me racist. It means nothing on election day. Nothing.

Posted by: Barbarian at November 24, 2009 06:14 PM (EL+OC)

29

What most peopole don't know is a fact that the MSM wants people to forget.  america is still a 70-75% white nation.  Blacks clock in around 12% Latino's at about 13-15% and Asian/eskimo/native american  the rest. 

this means that if 60% of whites vote against Obama He would need every minority vote to maybe win relection.  The MSM wants the narrative to go out that we are a multiculture nation and that minorities have more political clout then they do.  The simple fact is that is a lie.  If you lose the white vote, you lose the election.   simple yet the PC MSM  would never tell you that.

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:15 PM (aVGmX)

30 Now that's a lame-duck, boy.

But look out for those spiking wings, I say.

Posted by: Sheets Byrd at November 24, 2009 06:15 PM (pUfK9)

31 Obama's Slip:

from 68% approval to 49% in Gallup

from 65% approval to 45% in Rasmussen

from favorables in the mid 70s to favorables in the mid to low 50s

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 06:16 PM (xNw7B)

32 Its racist for white people to start losing their support for Obama.  But for blacks to still overwhelmingly support him isn't in the least bit about their racism.

Posted by: buzzion at November 24, 2009 06:17 PM (opdYb)

33

If I didn't know better I would say Obama is a plant by the KKK to ensure a black candidate will never win election for the next 400 years.  He is that bad. 

Notice Obama didn't bow to the White queen of England yet he bowed to even non-white monarch he has met?

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:17 PM (aVGmX)

34 >>It's only a matter of time before racism becomes this administration's only policy point.<<

We should be so lucky. Internalizing the plain fact that 52% of the citizens of a proud nation have surrendered custody of that nation to a man who reviles them has taken me a year already, and I still haven't managed. Racism has been explained, and is a lot easier to understand.

Understanding the mathematical paradox that 52% of the American electorate are either non-white, young, or willfully self-destructive is every bit as challenging.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 06:18 PM (daRzV)

35 Yeah, it's still a year away...

...but if this continues it will be interesting seeing the Narcissist of the United States (NOTUS) trying to run towards Democratic candidates next fall while they're trying to run away from him.  Kinda like W in 2006.

Can we get the Maine sisters to start straightening up?  Same with Blanche?

Hell, Arlen may have done us a favor.

Still need to tell Cornyn and Steele to lay off Crist.

Posted by: David in San Diego at November 24, 2009 06:18 PM (GF+6V)

36

what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 06:18 PM (xNw7B)

37 On the subject of trying to classify disapproval of Obama as racism what drives me most crazy about liberals is their insistence on having you disbelieve what is in front of your eyes and believe precisely the opposite. I think that they call this mental cruelty in divorce parlance. I call it crazy making. Liberals are comfortable with cognitive dissonance. I am not. I call a spade a spade and resent the fuck out of anyone trying to convince me that it's a spoon.

Posted by: LGoPs at November 24, 2009 06:20 PM (v/rEn)

38

Well one thing is for certain.  With the fully integrated staff at MSNBC leading the charge of racism, we don't stand a chance.  We may as well concede.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 24, 2009 06:20 PM (r1h5M)

39

what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

Reality caught up.

Posted by: huerfano at November 24, 2009 06:21 PM (vtuZz)

40 How many Satanic baby-eating rituals will Obama have to perform on national television whilst doing anal on Michelle before blacks will reduce their support? In all seriousness, is there any qualification required other than skin pigment to cement the black vote? Is the average black that racist?

Posted by: Immolate at November 24, 2009 06:21 PM (vFdz4)

41 Be sure to watch the Evening News as it's pole dancing Tuesday. I'm letting it all hang out while I read the news and recite my spoken word poems about health care and "cougarizing" your neighborhood. Must see TV.

Posted by: Katie Couric at November 24, 2009 06:22 PM (GGgoa)

42 This is one instance where I agree with you wingnuts. If a white Repub candidate ran as a centrist but then ran full neocon when he was in office while exploding the defecit, white unemployment for males hit 34 percent, and yet whites continued to support him over a black candidate by 90 percent, the media would cry racism. Too bad everyone still hates bush huh? Hahaha

Posted by: Left winger at November 24, 2009 06:22 PM (SyzWk)

43 The best part?  This was completely preventable. 

If Obama had governed in the manner he promised during the campaign, he would be unstoppable right now.

Posted by: Slublog at November 24, 2009 06:23 PM (Qbjio)

44

Left winger at November 24, 2009 06:22 PM (SyzWk)

 

Maybe you missed that 27% approval rating Bush had when he left office.  Last time I looked USA did not have 73% black population

idiot

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:25 PM (aVGmX)

45

If Obama had governed in the manner he promised during the campaign, he would be unstoppable right now.

Governing is for chumps.  That's what Nancy and Harry are for.

Posted by: Barry O at November 24, 2009 06:26 PM (vtuZz)

46 something hit me the other day.

how would a man raised a leftists, from a leftists state, that represented a leftists state in one of the leftiest of lefty districts & cities, who has always been told "yes" and never "no" and refuses to visit states that didn't vote for him, how could a man like this work w/ a republican congress? how would that work out?

and if he was unseated in 2012, how would he cooperate w/ the incoming Republican President-Elect? would he be a prick like both Presidents Adams & Quincy Adams were and not go to the inauguration and leave the white house the night before?

a leftists like this forced to actually acknowledge a republican majority and/or successor? could be fun to watch, after all he barely thanked Bush for his service in the inauguration & this after Clinton went out of his way to have a standing ovation at his inauguration for George HW

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 06:27 PM (xNw7B)

47 The best part?  This was completely preventable. 

If Obama had governed in the manner he promised during the campaign, he would be unstoppable right now.

Posted by: Slublog at November 24, 2009 06:23 PM (Qbjio)

 

LOL....which promise?  the promise he made to the purple states when he ran has a bluedog dem?  the promise he made to the liberals in places like San fran when he ran has the next Lenin?  Or the promise he made to the red states when he ran has the next Reagan? 

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:27 PM (aVGmX)

48 Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:27 PM (aVGmX)

Ha. Good point.

Posted by: Slublog at November 24, 2009 06:28 PM (Qbjio)

49

Black voters, meanwhile, have continued to support Obama to the tune of approximately 90 percent.

10 percent of black voters aren't black at all, meaning that Obama has 100 percent support from black voters.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson, World Renowned Expert on Who's Truly Black at November 24, 2009 06:29 PM (QKKT0)

50 But I won!

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 24, 2009 06:30 PM (ngD76)

51

"In all seriousness, is there any qualification required other than skin pigment to cement the black vote? Is the average black that racist?"

Unfair!  There also has to be a "D" after the name.

Posted by: rabidfox at November 24, 2009 06:30 PM (fQ3fP)

52 You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time, we've been fooled by a communist well, some of us knew all along that this was a bad pill!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:30 PM (65lJF)

53 Just the fact that these people CHANGED from supporting Obama to not approving, would indicate THEY are not the racists.

Obama has been successful at making "white racism" a big part of the narratives, whether regarding himself or Sarah Palin or whatever.

Posted by: bill at November 24, 2009 06:31 PM (nUbAO)

54

This is why Ace is wrong.  If you do not have core principles and instead fit the message to the voters to win election once you get into office you lose whatever mandate you had for getting elected.  run a Rino in a blue district means that the Rino will have to vote against party to keep his/her seat.  It does no good.  run on principles so after the election you can govern with a mandate or if you lose you can be the opposition party. 

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 06:31 PM (aVGmX)

55 what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

They used the global warming models to make that prediction.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:31 PM (F+U5/)

56 Unfair!  There also has to be a "D" after the name.

Yes, there does.

Posted by: Michael Steele at November 24, 2009 06:31 PM (oQIfB)

57 Is the average black that racist?

Yes.

Posted by: Barbarian at November 24, 2009 06:32 PM (EL+OC)

58 @46

Yes that will be sweet.

If we last that long.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 24, 2009 06:32 PM (MCHyX)

59

Posted by: Slublog at November 24, 2009 06:23 PM (Qbjio)

if Obama just governed like Bill Clinton did from 1995-1998, he'd be unstoppable, but he decided to go far left, good luck w/ that Mr. President!


Maybe you missed that 27% approval rating Bush had when he left office.

actually he had a 34% approval rating when he left, he got a 12 point boost during the transition and he actually left w/ a 53% favorable rating


Too bad everyone still hates bush huh? Hahaha

he left w/ a postive favorable rating, they didn't hate him, they hated how he did his job, people hated Clinton though, he still polls below 50% in favorables

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 06:33 PM (xNw7B)

60 Hey folks, let's not fall into the identity politics trap.  It doesn't matter if we're white, black, brown, purple, green or yellow.  Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:33 PM (F+U5/)

61 OT: could you guys please write a few more posts so those pics of Katie Couric scroll off the front page? No one needs to see that shit at dinner time. Thanks.

Posted by: Wise Mongol at November 24, 2009 06:35 PM (axu9y)

62 55 what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

They used the global warming models to make that prediction.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:31 PM (F+U5/

 

That's perfect

 

Posted by: buzzion at November 24, 2009 06:37 PM (opdYb)

63 54-do not short change Drew.

Posted by: Pelvis at November 24, 2009 06:37 PM (LlaBi)

64 I guess we are back to being a racist country again.  That didn't last long.

Posted by: Seriously at November 24, 2009 06:37 PM (rpFxv)

65 Can we, like, have the 2010 election RIGHT NOW?

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at November 24, 2009 06:37 PM (gLNLT)

66

Hey folks, let's not fall into the identity politics trap.  It doesn't matter if we're white, black, brown, purple, green or yellow.  Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

Screw you.

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Oppressed Purple Americans at November 24, 2009 06:38 PM (QKKT0)

67 Pointing out that others use racism as a weapon is racist.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (ympAm)

68 Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:33 PM (F+U5/)

Repeat after me, in unison "We are all individuals"..........

Posted by: LGoPs at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (v/rEn)

69 52% How does my ass taste.

Posted by: SOME ASSHOLE HAS MY PEN at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (VmAoa)

70 Uh, Ray...the sponges migrated about a foot and a half...

Posted by: Slade at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (saiGq)

71 60,

I like you jeff, but let's look at the real problem here. The majority of the african american community are not patriots of america, they are a problem caused by the liberals to get votes and keep them down by giving them free money and homes that they soon can't pay for on their meager doles, then the illegals get the same ticket but at least they work, guess I will be slammed as a racist but I call them like I see them everyday, this crap has to stop somewhere!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (65lJF)

72 >>what happen to the idea that the Republican party was fucked for decades to come<<

Well, it's been disproven...time and time again. FDR, in the Fifties, with the "Third Way" BS, and lately with the President Kumbaya pod-people. That's going to change, though.

The Republican Party isn't fucked yet, but it will be in my lifetime--I'm 42. The uncertainty of a more challenging life in the decades to come--in all the forms we see today, and the exponential growth of complicated living in years to come, with vast immigration from people seeking only creature comforts at any price-- will drive more fearful people into the embrace of a caregiving, nurturing, protective government. That government will demand of its growing flock acquiescence, and it will get that acquiescence.

Barry Goldwater will be less than an object of derision--he'll be thoroughly and irremediably incomprehensible in 50 years. I'll be dead by then, planted in the plot I've already purchased, a plot that'll probably be overlaid with tenements to house the waves of socially parasitic eaters who'll eventually dictate the rudderless meander of the future non-nation.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 06:41 PM (daRzV)

73 Hey, is that the Reichstag burning?

Posted by: are you parnoid enough at November 24, 2009 06:09 PM (PD1tk)

Some of us remember the Oklahoma City bombing, and the phony claims of a rash of black church burnings in 1995. I fully expect the Commiecrats and the DemSM (BIRM) to fabricate something similar in 2011 if it is a GOP landslide.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 24, 2009 06:41 PM (ujg0T)

74 67 Pointing out that others use racism as a weapon is racist.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (ympAm)

Pointing out that it's racist to accuse others of racism for using racism as a weapon is racist.

Posted by: Cicero at November 24, 2009 06:41 PM (QKKT0)

75

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:40 PM (65lJF)

ditto

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 06:42 PM (xNw7B)

76 The best part?  This was completely preventable. 

If Obama had governed in the manner he promised during the campaign, he would be unstoppable right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

Posted by: The Frog at November 24, 2009 06:43 PM (yUybe)

77 So let me get this straight.  If your BLACK and you support Obama because he's BLACK, then you're not RACIST?

Posted by: GarandFan at November 24, 2009 06:43 PM (ZQBnQ)

78

Hey folks, let's not fall into the identity politics trap.  It doesn't matter if we're white, black, brown, purple, green or yellow.  Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

The only problem with this sentiment is that the Commiecrats are *deliberately* pushing us all *into* this trap. They have already done so with 90% of African Americans, and 65% of Latino Americans, to say nothing of the self-hate brainwashing of a good many Euro Americans.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 24, 2009 06:43 PM (ujg0T)

79 A year is a long time in politics, but if not one person changes their mind from now to then, I'm thinking just about any "no hope & change back" campaign could win.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 24, 2009 06:45 PM (DIYmd)

80 what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

(predictably) Democrats happened.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 24, 2009 06:45 PM (SnE5o)

81

#76

Very good reference.

"Why'd you do that?!"

"Because it is my nature to do so."

Posted by: Secundus at November 24, 2009 06:46 PM (821i4)

82

Maybe you missed that 27% approval rating Bush had when he left office

Will the GOP finally understand why he had that rating? (hint: It *wasn't* the wars...)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 24, 2009 06:46 PM (ujg0T)

83 Bush pissed-off at least half the base.

Posted by: Old Sailor at November 24, 2009 06:49 PM (/Ft4q)

84 it is quite the belly laugh to see O and the dems trying to claim the debt hawk mantel all of a sudden.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 24, 2009 06:50 PM (DIYmd)

85 Nam Grunt @ 71, I like you too, I would just rather prefer not to lump all black folks into some monolithic category.  That is what the collectivist left does.  I have a black friend who is a very successful professor at a large university.  He's not a leech or a "problem" for anyone.  Then again I had a black associate once try to convince me that white people should be held in slavery for 400 years in order to "even the score".  Now that's just stupid.  I had another black student in my class who is exceptionally smart and is now working at a large drug company, I'm sure by now he's making 6 figures.  They could have all been white people or brown people or whatever.  We're all different individuals.

I believe the reason why 90% of black folks support Obama is because of a common belief that they share (e.g., that having a black president is good for the black man), not necessarily because of skin color per se.  We would do better to attack the belief rather than focus on skin color.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:50 PM (F+U5/)

86 My Boys went to school without fancy clothes and top name shoes, although I did buy them once in awhile and the token electronic stuff at Christmas too, but I wasn't well off I worked 12 hr shifts in a chemical plant in Houston after my many years in the Army, but they both have degrees and are doing well and I'm still poor, but they took personal responsibility with the threat of death from me at times and I raised them all by myself! No brag just fact! Why can't african american fathers instill the same dicipline for their children instead of being on the dole for their priority!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:50 PM (65lJF)

87 Curmudgeon @ 78, that is how they have framed the argument - we don't have to follow their playbook.  I would hope that conservatives are the ones to stand up for individual dignity rather than push their own form of identity politics just with different groups.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:51 PM (F+U5/)

88

I distinctly remember the CNN headline when Republicans won the house the last time, it was: "WHAT WENT WRONG?"

Seriously.

Posted by: Dagny at November 24, 2009 06:52 PM (q7VHI)

89

Bush pissed-off at least half the base.

And the issue that did it was...SCAMNESTY.

Shenanigans  like "Bridges to nowhere" and "wide stances in bathrooms" didn't help either, but they did not generate mass revulsion. Scamnesty did.

The Medicare D and No Child Left Behind scams, while wretched, can be easily understood as the sausage making of politics.  Scamnesty could not.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 24, 2009 06:53 PM (ujg0T)

90 If there are any Newspapers left by Christmas/New Years, how about a cartoon of a family going to a department store to return/exchange gifts; but they are returning Obama, Pelosi, and Reid?  With Palin, Romney, and others sitting on the shelves?

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 24, 2009 06:53 PM (NPtVh)

91 Some of us remember the Oklahoma City bombing, and the phony claims of a rash of black church burnings in 1995. I fully expect the Commiecrats and the DemSM (BIRM) to fabricate something similar in 2011 if it is a GOP landslide.

The GOP should get out ahead of this. Start a bunch of baddassed agent provocateur rumors about Palin setting up work camps for blacks and huge tortilla for messicans. Make it so stupid and unbelievable that every Democrat seizes on it and every halfway-sane independent goes Republican.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 24, 2009 06:54 PM (yUybe)

92 85,

I served with african american folks in the Army and they were professional even more so than some others in the military, the point I was making is personnel responsibility, no matter what color you are.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:54 PM (65lJF)

93

Is the average black that racist?

 

 

As to the 90% polled, yes.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 24, 2009 06:54 PM (2WrE9)

94 >>>I believe the reason why 90% of black folks support Obama is because of a common belief that they share (e.g., that having a black president is good for the black man), not necessarily because of skin color per se. We would do better to attack the belief rather than focus on skin color.<<<

Good luck.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 06:54 PM (daRzV)

95 OT Firefox 3.6 beta 3 is up and seems to have fixed the 3.5.5 freeze up.

Posted by: sTevo at November 24, 2009 06:55 PM (eA3tl)

96 Allahpuke trolling his own blog again. Malkin needs to hose that POS off.

Posted by: Salem at November 24, 2009 06:55 PM (86rbG)

97

What caused the beginning of the fall? Boston-Cop-Gates-gate. He showed his true colors. Heh

Posted by: Dagny at November 24, 2009 06:57 PM (q7VHI)

98 I served with african american folks in the Army and they were professional even more so than some others in the military, the point I was making is personnel responsibility, no matter what color you are.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 06:

 

 

There were black NCO's and officers I would have followed into hell.  I agree with you.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 24, 2009 06:57 PM (2WrE9)

99 So Democrats overall still approve of Obama in the 80s, whereas his approval among all whites has dropped below 40?  That statistic implies that the Democrat Party is driving out any white voters who disapprove of Obama, seeing them as being insufficiently pure of heart and non-racist.

Posted by: stuiec at November 24, 2009 06:58 PM (7AOgy)

100
The buck stops with Joe!

Posted by: B H Obama at November 24, 2009 06:58 PM (6mfq0)

101 I served with african american folks in the Army and they were professional even more so than some others in the military, the point I was making is personnel responsibility, no matter what color you are.


I completely agree.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 06:59 PM (F+U5/)

102 what happen to the idea the Republican party was fucked for decades to come?

They still have a year to do something spectacularly stupid, and they're the just the party to do it.

Posted by: toby928 at November 24, 2009 06:59 PM (PD1tk)

103 My not otherwise too political mother went OFF today about being called racist because she opposes Obama.  She was utterly furious.  You have to understand, my mother is, no lie, the nicest, sweetest, most loving woman in the world.  She wanted to punch pretty much anyone who says that in the teeth.  And she said that the more she's called a raaaaaaaaaaacist, the more she opposes Obama.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 24, 2009 07:00 PM (bQ5xy)

104 Where did my Play Dough set go?!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 24, 2009 07:01 PM (rpFxv)

105 I don't believe that folks disagree with odumbass because he is a african american, it's because he has surrounded himself with communists and american haters and he is one too, trying to destroy america with his fucked up point of view!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:04 PM (65lJF)

106

You have to understand, my mother is, no lie, the nicest, sweetest, most loving woman in the world.  

 

 

No she's not.  My mother is!

Posted by: GW Bush at November 24, 2009 07:05 PM (2WrE9)

107 "Though he maintains widespread loyalty among Democrats, the small loss in support he has seen from his fellow partisans seems to be exclusively from white Democrats," Gallup's finding says.

White Democrats, BOY

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at November 24, 2009 07:06 PM (sYxEE)

108 Politico notes the former Obama supporters turned opponents are, as you'd expect, whites. It's only a matter of time before racism becomes this Administration's only policy point.

As I've always said, let me be clear on this, there is no substitute for a central guiding principle. That is the lynchpin of my administration.

Did I say "lynchpin?" See? See?

Posted by: Earflaps McBaritone, POTUS and Supergenius at November 24, 2009 07:06 PM (AZGON)

109

Posted by: Salem at November 24, 2009 06:55 PM (86rbG)

she lets him get away w/ too much, meanwhile HotAir readership goes down and he's become a joke among commenters, he's the greatest gift to trolls of that blog

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 07:07 PM (xNw7B)

110 Do the Republicans have any cash?

Posted by: Mary Landrieu at November 24, 2009 07:08 PM (W+E+o)

111 Short of the Asgard showing up and beaming about $10T in gold into Ft. Knox as a Christmas present, this trend only continues.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 24, 2009 07:08 PM (SnE5o)

112 Obama is even losing support among voters with abnormally large ears.

Posted by: Cicero at November 24, 2009 07:08 PM (QKKT0)

113 104 Where did my Play Dough set go?!

It's next to your legos...

Posted by: doonuts at November 24, 2009 07:09 PM (hx+jH)

114 Too funny.  Whites that don't approve of Obama the dithering socialist must be racist, but blacks that inexplicably approve of Obama, well we wouldn't want to probe why that number is what it is.  Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks ?  Kill someone ? 

Posted by: deadrody at November 24, 2009 07:10 PM (l9UkQ)

115 114,

He's killing me!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:11 PM (65lJF)

116 Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks ?  Kill someone ?

No, if he killed someone his record sales would go through the roof.

Posted by: doonuts at November 24, 2009 07:11 PM (hx+jH)

117

Posted by: deadrody at November 24, 2009 07:10 PM (l9UkQ)

nope, didn't hurt me when I did that, and I did it twice!

Posted by: OJ at November 24, 2009 07:12 PM (xNw7B)

118

Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks ?  Kill someone ?

Man, get real. 

Posted by: O.J. Simpson at November 24, 2009 07:12 PM (QKKT0)

119
The Republican Party isn't fucked yet, but it will be in my lifetime--I'm 42. --- I'll be dead by then, planted in the plot I've already purchased, a plot that'll probably be overlaid with tenements to house the waves of socially parasitic eaters who'll eventually dictate the rudderless meander of the future non-nation.


I was going to snark with a "Pessimism much?" comment, but I think I agree with you.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:12 PM (AZGON)

120 "5 I don't believe that folks disagree with odumbass because he is a african american, it's because he has surrounded himself with communists and american haters and he is one too, trying to destroy america with his fucked up point of view!"
I disagree with him because he is not African American but plays one on the TV of the MSM. He has more aryan blood than half of white America

Posted by: avi at November 24, 2009 07:12 PM (rG4O2)

121 Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks ?

They ain't gotten the first tax bill yet.  After April, I expect a rather large decline.  A lot of those people are going to find out that free money earlier this year has to be given back and they're not going to be too happy about having to do it.

The media mentioned this, but didn't put it front and center.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 24, 2009 07:13 PM (SnE5o)

122

No, if he killed someone his record sales would go through the roof.

 

Poop Doggie 'Bama.

Posted by: Random white guy at November 24, 2009 07:16 PM (2WrE9)

123

It is my belief that Obama, et al believed they could incite the white rightwing into violence and gain popular animosity towards them.

What they have, so far, is blacks attacking whites and other ethnicities, and muslims shooting soldiers.  We have the media and the democrats attacking the Catholic church and other christian groups.  Hell, they are even attacking individual citizens.

Hold your fire and let them keep fucking those chickens.

Posted by: mghorning at November 24, 2009 07:16 PM (ACbi+)

124 Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks?

Switch parties. Just ask Justice Thomas.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:17 PM (AZGON)

125 Don't forget Mr. Fed hanging himself from a tree.

Posted by: RTH615 at November 24, 2009 07:19 PM (xiwsU)

126 One thing for sure, the skinny asshole can sure slide down the chimney on Christmas Eve!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:21 PM (65lJF)

127 Resign?  Then the Klingon could run.  Rerun of the Simpsons Clintons.

Posted by: Old Sailor at November 24, 2009 07:21 PM (/Ft4q)

128 I'm curious-- if Republicans take the House in 2010, will the media even report it?

Report it?  Hell, the State Media will be happy to report it...The Republican House caused the recession, debt,  unemployment, kitten deaths, etc.  In fact, if Health Care 'reform' passes, and is the huge turd that we know it will be, that will be their fault too!  Reporting the evils of government will be popular again. 

IF the Republicans take the House, I'm still convinced they will find a way to fuck it all up.

Posted by: gau at November 24, 2009 07:21 PM (n1uMU)

129 You should, George. You of all people know about clocks striking thirteen, etc...

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 07:22 PM (daRzV)

130

 Don't forget Mr. Fed hanging himself from a tree.

Yea, my mistake.

Posted by: the white rightwing at November 24, 2009 07:23 PM (ACbi+)

131 Then the Klingon could run.  Rerun of the Simpsons Clintons.

Oh she will try, but she has all the charm of a cranky pit bull.  Shes more of an unelected lifetime government parasite type.

Posted by: gau at November 24, 2009 07:23 PM (n1uMU)

132 Speaking of black politicians losing credibility, Jay Cost at RCP has voted no confidence on that powerhouse of charisma, Michael Steele:

Memo to Republican pooh-bahs: This fellow is a problem, an unnecessary problem in a midterm cycle in which you hope to take a giant step toward a full comeback. The requirements for the RNC chairman are pretty straightforward: raise the cash, spout the party line on cue, don't cause trouble.

Can Steele do this?

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:24 PM (AZGON)

133 All I know is I'm voting for the Sarah/Glenn Party with Rush as the Chief of Staff!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:24 PM (65lJF)

134 Kind of typical when they say that the majority of those that turned against Obama are white and that racism will be touted.

He got elected on racism with a high 90% of black voters, voting for im.

Come to think of it, if 90% of blacks are still for Obama then we are living in the racist days.

*shrug*

Posted by: Drider at November 24, 2009 07:24 PM (aZn+0)

135 We don't want Congress in 2010, mouth-breathers. The shit will still be moving in a fan direction a year from now. We want Congress after the wall is spattered.

I don't want them to "sorta fuck up." I want them to "fuck up good and solid," so the cure takes. And lasts.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 07:25 PM (daRzV)

136

Obama!  Obama!  Obama!  *laughter*

Posted by: Dumbass bitch waiting for Obama's stash at November 24, 2009 07:25 PM (2WrE9)

137

Yea, Yea, whatever - everyone has missed the important question:

Where the hell is the god damn cowbell!

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 24, 2009 07:26 PM (V9SYy)

138 137,

Leave my cows alone!

/Texan that loves his stump broke cows!!!!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:27 PM (65lJF)

139 We need to focus on the con game Congress in 2010, not Barack the magic Negro.  Their doing his bidding - that's the "get him" sideline.

Posted by: Old Sailor at November 24, 2009 07:27 PM (/Ft4q)

140 Oh she will try, but she has all the charm of a cranky pit bull. Shes more of an unelected lifetime government parasite type.

I seem to recall a $300K per annum sinecure as "outreach director" at a publicly funded Chicago hospital, occupied by the First Klingon until her man-child was deified last year. A sinecure so important and vital that it has not been filled since the Sasquatch of Sofa Fabrics left the post.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:28 PM (AZGON)

141

Katie Couric dancing dirty.  You gave me that.

God probably crushed your damn cowbell!

Posted by: Terri Garr at November 24, 2009 07:30 PM (ACbi+)

142 109 YRM:

I suppose he's just bitter that Bolton can move out of NYC on a whim while he's stuck there, but Bolton is a diplomat, for crying out loud. And from a doomed Metropolis where they dare not rebuild war damage. Imagine if FDR had abandoned Pearl Harbor so that it wouldn't provake any more attacks. And you should be fine with your family living in that city when the terrorists who attacked it are given license to exploit them even more by a president who isn't content to address the public after a deadly attack of a military base without giving some cheerful shout outs.

But AP is sounding exactly like he's following CJ over the edge. Incomprehensible.

Posted by: Salem at November 24, 2009 07:30 PM (86rbG)

143

"Or was it those pictures of Katie Couric grinding?"

I would definately hit that....from behind of course

Posted by: Todd at November 24, 2009 07:31 PM (LLOGQ)

144 The worst thing about Allahpuker is he's such a fucking grouch. Shit, get someone on there with a better personality and a better outlook on life. If I wanna be bummed out all the time I'll join the Democrats.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 24, 2009 07:32 PM (P33XN)

145 I know Eeyorepundit can be a squish, and has an unnatural proclivity for large blonde harpies who hate conservatives, but is he really going to go over the edge into Kos mode? If he does and Malkin keeps him on, someone will have to explain the utility of HotAir. Ed Morrissey is enough of a squish already.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:32 PM (AZGON)

146

Katie Couric dancing dirty.  You gave me that.

God probably crushed your damn cowbell!

Then you might really want to be careful around here. I'm not saying who, but someone has a bad habit of linking to an extremely vile picture of Helen Thomas occassionally. Bad, bad picuture.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 24, 2009 07:33 PM (V9SYy)

147 It occurs to me that whites will often make up the majority of any group mentioned in polls or news stories, on account of they make up about 80% of the general population. I mean, you could say the majority of MSNBC's viewers are white. The majority of Diet Coke drinkers are white. So what?  According to the CIA World factbook, 79.96% of Americans are white. The majority of the people who voted for Obama are white. The majority of the people who think he's a braindead douchebag are white. Again- so fucking what?

Enough of this racist bullshit.

Posted by: Jones at November 24, 2009 07:35 PM (JL3qV)

148 143,

Not me! I would be afraid of her yelling liberal talking points, course I could stuff her mouth there's that!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:35 PM (65lJF)

149 but someone has a bad habit of linking to an extremely vile picture of Helen Thomas occassionally. Bad, bad picuture.


What? Why? She looks fine to me.

Posted by: The Association of Elderly Shar-pei Dogs Suffering Eczema at November 24, 2009 07:36 PM (AZGON)

150

I would definately hit that....from behind of course

Posted by: Todd

That be how liberals begot.

Posted by: sTevo at November 24, 2009 07:37 PM (eA3tl)

151 "So, what do you read?" -- Katie Couric

I read the fine print in your tramp-stamp, wannabe. Now spread 'em, and for the last time, look at the goddamn camera.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 07:38 PM (daRzV)

152 If Obama had done a Clinton, and stole the best ideas from the conservatives and implemented them, the economy would be on steroids right now, and he would be looking at a solid 2nd term. He would be unstoppable. Even I admit this.

Posted by: rawmuse at November 24, 2009 07:38 PM (7dSSk)

153  It occurs to me that whites will often make up the majority of any group mentioned in polls or news stories, on account of they make up about 80% of the general population. I mean, you could say the majority of MSNBC's viewers are white. The majority of Diet Coke drinkers are white. So what?  According to the CIA World factbook, 79.96% of Americans are white. The majority of the people who voted for Obama are white. The majority of the people who think he's a braindead douchebag are white. Again- so fucking what?

Math is racist.

Posted by: Rev. Al Sharpton at November 24, 2009 07:39 PM (V9SYy)

154 and a better outlook on life.

he's an atheist, is that possible?

Posted by: YRM at November 24, 2009 07:39 PM (xNw7B)

155 Polls are racist.

Posted by: Cong. Jesse (The fruit does not fall from the tree) Jackson at November 24, 2009 07:39 PM (V9SYy)

156

he's an atheist, is that possible?

I know, and I'm positive that's the reason why he is the way he is.

Nothing to do about it, I guess, except to take it as an important lesson on what happens when you don't believe in anything beyond yourself.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 24, 2009 07:41 PM (P33XN)

157 Odumbass is NOT for all Americans, simple as that and that will be his downfall no matter how many imbeciles love him!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at November 24, 2009 07:41 PM (65lJF)

158

But AP is sounding exactly like he's following CJ over the edge. Incomprehensible.

 

I think it's an aetheist thing.

Posted by: Dumbass bitch waiting for Obama's stash at November 24, 2009 07:43 PM (2WrE9)

159 Ya know, the Barbed Cock of Satan doesn't taste the bad when you wash it down with Chianti. Of course, Mary Jo's flaming strap-on burns like a mother.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 24, 2009 07:45 PM (cvvNY)

160 FUCKING SOCKS!

Posted by: David Axelrod at November 24, 2009 07:45 PM (2WrE9)

161

 If a white Repub candidate ran as a centrist but then ran full neocon when he was in office

 

Neocons are centrists, you stupid fuck.

I know you ignorant clowns on the left like to use that word as a catch-all slur for everything you dislike, but words have actual meanings.

 

Posted by: Warden at November 24, 2009 07:45 PM (QoR4a)

162

It doesn't matter if we're white, black, brown, purple, green or yellow.  Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

 

Perhaps it shouldn't matter, but clearly it does.

Posted by: flenser at November 24, 2009 07:47 PM (TH4rr)

163 Dems can learn their lesson if applied liberally enough.  1994 and BHO being named 2009's Firearms Salesman of the Year proves the point.  Do you ever hear Congress talking seriously about abridging our 2A rights anymore?  No.

Every threat results in massive new gun sales.  We need to make fill-in-the-blank health care reform the same damn dirty words that "gun control" have become.  I don't want them to ever come back to this socialist trough again. 

End it here and now.  Demonize the death panels and rationing because that is exactly what their policies will result in, just like taking the means of self defense from law abiding citizens would result in Detroit or D.C.

Posted by: RTH615 at November 24, 2009 07:49 PM (xiwsU)

164 Each of us are individuals and each of us deserves to be treated with dignity accordingly.

The whites, however, will be treated last.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 07:50 PM (AZGON)

165

Neocons are centrists, you stupid fuck.

I know you ignorant clowns on the left like to use that word as a catch-all slur for everything you dislike, but words have actual meanings.


Thank-you.

That word used like that as an invective is one of my pet peeves.  The ONLY reason the left latched on the word is is sounds like half Neo Nazi and half Convict..... nevermind it only illustrate what "stupid fucks" they are.




Posted by: fixerupper at November 24, 2009 07:55 PM (AlZQ+)

166 A RHETORICAL QUESTION:

If, in 2005, the Democrats had run on the platform of:

"In 3 years, if you give us control of Congress, we will have 10.2% unemployment, a $1.5 trillion deficit, 1/4 of all home-owners will be upside-down on their mortgages, the government will have given billions to banks and private companies with little or no accounting of where the money has actually gone, taxes will go through the roof and the dollar will be on the brink of utter destruction..."

... would ANYONE have voted for them?

Look at America in 2005 and look at it now.  What has changed?  Who has been calling the shots?  Who has been the Speaker of the House?  Who has been the Majority Leader in the Senate?

2010 will be an EPIC BLOWOUT against the Democrat Party.  E.P.I.C.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 24, 2009 07:57 PM (Gm9rd)

167 All I know is, I think Amanda Knox is hot as hell.

Posted by: railwriter at November 24, 2009 07:59 PM (daRzV)

168

Curmudgeon @ 78, that is how they have framed the argument - we don't have to follow their playbook.  I would hope that conservatives are the ones to stand up for individual dignity rather than push their own form of identity politics just with different groups.

That's very highminded, but "individual dignity" is already to the Commiecrats and the LameSM (BIRM) defined as "acting white".

If Mr. Steele had any nads whatsoever, the GOP would run ads with soundbites of Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric "Cowards" Holder, etc., and then Mr. Steele could turn to the camera and say: "Aren't Americans of *all* colors tired of this? Vote Republican--for some *real* change..."

Just a thought.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 24, 2009 08:01 PM (IPGTN)

169 Something no one is talking about is the effect this will have on the recruiting of outstanding Republican Candidates for 2010.  Everyone loves a winner and if it looks like a wave election, we will attract much more appealing talent.

It took a Carter to get a Reagan...

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 24, 2009 08:03 PM (Gm9rd)

170 If Mr. Steele had any nads whatsoever, the GOP would run ads with soundbites of Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric "Cowards" Holder, etc., and then Mr. Steele could turn to the camera and say: "Aren't Americans of *all* colors tired of this? Vote Republican--for some *real* change..."

Be sure to throw in slo-mo footage of Obastard golfing. That would cause many leftards to utterly lose their cool.

Posted by: George Orwell at November 24, 2009 08:06 PM (AZGON)

171 I believe the reason why 90% of black folks support Obama is because of a common belief that they share (e.g., that having a black president is good for the black man), not necessarily because of skin color per se. We would do better to attack the belief rather than focus on skin color.

Wow.  Talk about cognitive dissonance.  Blacks like Obama because he is, well, black, but it has nothing to do with skin color.  Is that what I'm reading ?

LOL!!!

Posted by: deadrody at November 24, 2009 08:08 PM (l9UkQ)

172 If independents are 44-20 for the GOP, where are the other 36%? How many would vote for a 3rd-party candidate, even an avowed Communist, before they gave either one of the Criminal Conspiracies Against the Constitution the time of day?

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at November 24, 2009 08:19 PM (dbYhI)

173 The unemployment rate amongst young black males is now over 30%.

I would like to think that eventually they will figure out that they have been sold a bill of goods and that tribalism does not make a good basis for picking a leader.

This was all perfectly predictable because when times are bad and the government works to make the cost of unemployment as high as possible the least skilled groups are hurt the worst. 

Posted by: To Hayek With You at November 24, 2009 08:41 PM (nZNTl)

174 Just exactly what would Obama have to do to lose approval of blacks ? Kill someone.

Get real.

Posted by: Colin Powell at November 24, 2009 08:43 PM (EL+OC)

175 I would like to think that eventually they will figure out...

Get real.

Posted by: Robert Byrd at November 24, 2009 08:45 PM (EL+OC)

Posted by: jason at November 24, 2009 08:47 PM (x70Q/)

177 Every threat results in massive new gun sales.  We need to make fill-in-the-blank health care reform the same damn dirty words that "gun control" have become.  I don't want them to ever come back to this socialist trough again. 

End it here and now.  Demonize the death panels and rationing because that is exactly what their policies will result in, just like taking the means of self defense from law abiding citizens would result in Detroit or D.C.

Posted by: RTH615 at November 24, 2009 07:49 PM (xiwsU)

 

Hell obamacare is a backdoor attempt at gun control.   All the liberals have to do is show that gunownerships increase healthcare costs.  then your premiums go up up and up if you own a gun.   No more gun ownerships in the majority.  once it becomes a minority gun control will be passed.  evil master plan.

 

Posted by: unseen at November 24, 2009 09:28 PM (aVGmX)

178 Wow.  Talk about cognitive dissonance.  Blacks like Obama because he is, well, black, but it has nothing to do with skin color.  Is that what I'm reading ?

No, not really - the belief that a black president is good for the black man may be held by a person of any color.  (Lord knows plenty of white leftard college profs teach that belief every single day).  Focusing on the belief, rather than on who holds the belief, is what we should do IMO.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 24, 2009 09:41 PM (F+U5/)

179 Yeah there's racism involved with the divergence in support for President Obama, but not with whites. I doubt there's anything he could do that would shake the "we got one of us in the White House" racism of blacks.

You note whites don't seem to give a crap one way or another if a guy is white or not.

Posted by: Christopher taylor at November 24, 2009 10:33 PM (PQY7w)

180

A black man is President of the United States.



Racism is dead.

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