1 Off ramps.  Hmph.  I wish Barry O would load up his limo with Meanchelle and their crew and go find one, one that looks like a cliff.

2 Obama just hates this military foreign appairs crap.  He just won't admit he's stupid.

3

The left wanted another Vietnam.  The problem is, the left CAUSES things like Vietnams.  Vietnam was mostly a JFK and LBJ problem, which Nixon ended best as he could hamstrung by a Dem Congress.  This is their projection at work again, blaming Republicans for the problems they create. 

Bush started Afghanistan, like Ike started the US presence in Vietname.  But Obama is going to own the worst of it, like JFK and LBJ owned the worst of Nam.  Those Dems increased troop levels too, but were too gutless to have them do anything.  Watch for the same thing to happen in A-Stan. 

4 When the going gets tough, the left looks for an off-ramp.

5

The lack of the word "victory" in any of these trial balloons continues to worry me.  Having said that, it's a better course of action that I though he would take just a  few weeks ago.  Godspeed and a safe return to all who will deploy.

And I can't let this guffaw moment go:

amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury

Beyond shameless.

6 Great, sending more brave american soldiers to the slaughter to try and gain some political capital. It's obvious he's not committed to the war, they just don't want to appear as being 'weak' after this latest pacific circle blunder tour.

7 America needs an Off Ramp from the Obama Freeway Of Death

8 the White House is incensed by leaks on its Afghanistan policy that didn't originate in the White House

baby wants his bottle!

9 En Fuego!

10

The Pussy-In-Chief is looking for a way out. He can't wimp out before the mid-term elections, so late 2010- early 2011 should see The Dash For The Off-Ramps.

11

8 the White House is incensed by leaks on its Afghanistan policy that didn't originate in the White House

baby wants his bottle!

True.  And let's not forget...

Leaks in an Obama White House - bad.

Leaks in a Bush White House - good!

12 And wtf came up with the term "off-ramp"?  Axelrod?  Rahm?

13 Off-ramps? Off-ramps? Does Righteous War Commander Earflaps Hussein McBaritone also include a car pool lane for the Mirandized man-caused disaster suspects?

14

...The administration's plan contains "off-ramps," points starting next June at which Obama could decide to continue the flow of troops, halt the deployments and adopt a more limited strategy or "begin looking very quickly at exiting" the country, depending on political and military progress, one defense official said.

You don't "continue" on an "off-ramp", you "exit".

15
What strong decisive leadership...not

16 My son is heading back to Afganistan in April.  I am so worried now that Obama is at the helm and not supportive of the military except when they are a photo op. 

17

#14  You don't "continue" on an "off-ramp", you "exit".

Yes. The term "off-ramp" is too-clever by half.

In the end, there will be only chaos.

18 I don't know how this SOB has the nerve to even be present in the same physical space with members of the military or their families.

19 As I said before, the difficulty in deciding how many to send was how many could you send and still lose "properly". The ghost of Vietnam will haunt another generation I'm afraid.

20 18 I don't know how this SOB has the nerve to even be present in the same physical space with members of the military or their families.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 24, 2009 12:47 PM (554T5)

I suppose unbridled narcissism does have its uses...

21

18 I don't know how this SOB has the nerve to even be present in the same physical space with members of the military or their families.

I'm sure He thinks that they are all in awe of him.

"Over here, Soap"...what I heard over and over again in Modern Warfare because I forgot to follow Price and that Russian dude the 1st time during the level when you rescue Nicholai.

22 Off Ramp n...3 the action of yielding one's person or giving up the possession of something into the power of another. syn surrender

Off Ramp Dorothy!
Off Ramp unto Caesar that which is Caesars
No other terms than unconditional and immediate Off Ramp.

23 Corksugger!

24 The first step toward our quitting in disgrace.  I don't know how that worthless POS can sleep at night.

25 I forgot to follow Price and that Russian dude the 1st time during the level when you rescue Nicholai.

Price gets mightily pissed when I'm not working his program to a tee.

26 If I were the enemy, I'd kill as many Americans as fast as I can so Obama will take one of those off ramps ASAP.

27
"just take the next off ramp"  generally implies you're lost and need to stop and ask directions.

28 Well, it has started. The gutless SOB-n-chief is going to send 34,000 in dribs and drabs over to give him cover. 

We will achieve "victory" in about 12 months and pull out. The Taliban will get a "negotiated" position in government which, like the commies in Vietnam, will soon be all of the government.

Within 18 months Al Queda will be back in setting up their camps. Every American soldier who died fighting them out will have died for nothing.

Yes, Vietnam round II.  I hate fuckwad democraps. I just pray that one day they will all burn in the hottest part of Hell.

 

29

34,000? combat troops? how many support personnel? two divisions?

Off ramps? On ramps? exits? freeway ends?

Obama wouldn't know a Marine from a Coast Guardsman. The worst freaking commander in chief evah.

Army Mom, God bless your son. He and all the troops are in my prayers.

30 "just take the next off ramp"  generally implies you're lost and need to stop and ask directions.

That's where TOTUS comes in handy.

31 But we in it shall be remembered-
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that takes the off ramp with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in Washington now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That found an off ramp with us upon Saint Crispin's day!

32

Nice job Barry, why don't you go play another round of golf, better yet, why don't you take your pet wookie for a walk.

Obama sucks cock

33 Webster's defines "Off-ramps" as an undefined limit for exiting an uncomfortable situation which is directly related to the predicted damage continued involvement in said situation will do to one's political legacy and/or irrationally outsized ego.  (in some cases, "one's" is capitalized)

34 "...amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury and whether Afghanistan has become a quagmire, the officials said."

Oh, man. Loss for words here. Well, I guess we could go out on a limb here and say:

IOW, liberals lie.

35

Why not send 34k A-HORN and SEIU thugs in to organize?

Juggears might be more fired up about this.

BTW, you don't let leaks come out after the plan is nailed down. You don't wait a week to announce it. Got a plan? Good, walk out the door and tell the world. You do NOT wait 'til after T-day and Black Friday sales so you can get a huge audience.

This just shows you that this WH doesn't think that the poplulation can read the headlines before reading the sales flyers. Or is this such a shitty plan that he's afraid Black friday sales will tank if the "plan" comes out before then?

36 2012 is the Off Ramp for all of us.  Whether the GOP nominates Romney, Palin, or even fucking Mccain again (joke), I hope the USA takes the off ramp.

A war is a serious thing, and we're not committed.  That sends a message to our enemies to ramp up, not only attacks on us, but evidence of problems in Afghanistan's government (that I should add PALE in comparison to problems in the US government).  They know how to win.  Obama has given them an On Ramp.

37
I actually wanted to use the term "escape hatch" but TOTUS would have none of it.

38 Shit, I'd hate to be an Al Qaeda War-atollah right about now.

There's like no chance against an implacable foe that's looking for "quick exit strategies" and building "off-ramps" in case of political or military setback in the next six months.

You'd have to be a Biden-class genius to win under such conditions.

Perhaps they should surrender to the Present President while there's still a chance.

39

Obama sucks cock

Posted by: Todd at November 24, 2009 12:55

You put it better than Wu could.

40
Mommy's alright, Daddy's alright
They just seem a little weird
Off Ramp, Off Ramp
But don't give yourself away

41

And of course, you have David Obey now saying we need a new tax to pay for the war.

Pissing money away on a stimulus package that adds no new jobs....that is o.k.

Creating a massive healthcare system that will explode the deficiet...that is o.k.

Fighting a war of necessity (your words, asshole in chief, not mine).......wait, we need  a new tax for that.

We are so screwed.

42 "We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it," the U.S. defense official said.

Dear America,

Thank you for your updated operations information.  In response, we'll now plant as many roadside IEDs as we can, and unleash as many suicide bombers as we can find, over the next six months.

That said, we expect you will continue your cooperation with our Freedom of Information requests, and honor the Constitutionally protected civil rights of any Jihadis you may arrest during this time.

We appreciate your promptly addressing our concerns and remain,

Sincerely yours,
The Terrorists

43

Obama sucks cock

Will you kiss me?

44 Obama sucks cock by choice.

FTFY

45

I am utterly shocked that a former law professor and state senator for a Leftist machine enclave cannot take decisive action.

President Nuance what part of "There is no substitute for Victory" don't you understand? Certainly, you show outright bravado beating the hell out of strawmen.

46

"We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it," the U.S. defense official said.

These fools are timing this for the 2010 Election, thinking that losing a war is going to gain them more votes with their lefty lunatic base than the normal American's whole vote against them for losing the damned thing.

God Speed to all of our troops.  Let's hope that the Pentagon somehow convinces The Commander-in-Sheep to loosen the rules of engagement a little bit so they can fight with both hands, rather than just with their tooth-brushes and harsh words, which is about what they're allowed to do now when threatened.

47 Posted by: Mallamutt at November 24, 2009 01:00 PM (V9SYy)

I just finished an update about that.

Great minds and all of that.

48

I think we are all failing to appreaciate the deeply considered, nuanced, carefully deliberated decision making that led to the 34,000 number. 

It's 85% of 40,000.  Not 85.5, or 79.25, or 84.002.  85% with no decimals.   

It took months of deliberations to come up with "Give him 85% of what he asked for." 

I'm torn.  I'm eligible for retirement, and this charade tells me to run for the door.  On the other hand, I feel bad about leaving my brothers who are deployed and deploying.  Rough choice ahead. 

49 This is a scam.  34,000 let's him claim he tried to compromise with his base when House Democrats refuse to pay for any troop increases.  Thus they get thrown under the bus and it's never Obama's fault.

Even if they do pay, it'll be for six to nine months so that the pullout can begin in time to rally his base for next year's elections.  Which won't work, but since when has whether or not a plan could work been an issue for liberals?

50 LBJ part II, complete with social programs that hinder rather than help and wars conducted half-heartedly by technocrats. This is NOT the historical parallel we're looking for.

51 off ramp = exit strategy

Strategy.  You keep using that word.  I don't think it means what you think it means.

All done to placate the left. And yes, it will ramp up the opposition.  All they have to do is hang on.  They didn't know that, with Bush in office. He was so crazy, he might have just stayed there, until the US won.  Huh, what a concept. Plus, I think he gave the generals what they wanted. Another what a concept.

Everything has to do with exits, with these guys.  Growing up in a military family, I know there is no exit to those guys, except out the front door, walking out with your head held high when the job is done. I know Vietnam still sticks in my old man's craw, really bad.

52


“Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster”


   William Tecumseh Sherman

53 C'mon GOP ,  this prissy narcissist is serving up one hanging curve after another . Even better , they got Reid and Pelosi in the pen ready to come in and stop the bleeding .
 Can't wait .
In 2010 and 2012 the dems are gonna' look like the early Mets  with Carville and Begala sayin' . Can anyone here play this game ?

54

Bumpersticker on barrys Limo: "I'd rather be Golfing".

Sticker on Humvee: "I'd rather be supported by a POTUS to WIN!"

Humvee sticker: "Honk if you hate jihad!"

Barrys B-sticker: "My base is in Chicago..not A-stan"

55

Back in the days of George W. Bush, we knew what the goals were in Afghanistan and Iraq. One of the goals was to gain allies in the war on terror. Among the objectives were killing terrorists and taking the war to nation-states that supported terrorists. (Anyone who denies these points is willfully ignorant, by the way.) But now there's no more war on terror. There's just these contingency operations overseas and criminal trials in New York.

As for the bad guys, they commit terrorist acts as a way to disseminate their grievances to a large, international audience. These people have earned their own violent deaths, but our government seems to be giving them bandwidth instead.

I'm going back to Dragon World. Please let me know how this all turns out.

56 That's the JFK strategy of sending in as few troops as possible to reduce casualties.  Never mind that you're also giving the enemy smaller forces to fight.

57 The Prezznit already has us on an offramp.  The sign says "Grand Canyon," and he's re-enacting Thelma and Louise.  Here's hoping we survive to the midterm elections and have a role in the sequel.

58 Didn't we just get the surtax for San Juan off our phone bills?

59 "No War For Axel!"

60

49, only 20% of this country are idiot hippies. That means 80% don't want national security endangered or the country humiliated.

When Barry starts driving his Miata toward the off ramp I expect political carnage for his folks. Of course, with their ideological blinders on, they will believe the road is headed to electoral nirvana.

61 Barry, a Tank is an armored Mil Vehicle. But yes, tanked, is also a good term for your numbers.

62 LBJ part II, complete with social programs that hinder rather than help and wars conducted half-heartedly by technocrats. This is NOT the historical parallel we're looking for.

Posted by: joncelli at November 24, 2009 01:06 PM (RD7QR)

That's exactly what it's turning out to be. It was an utter mess back then and will be one again. But the Lame Stream Media will cover for Barry as long as they can.

63 The total is 80,000.

You have to count the 46,000 saved or created.

64

54, Bumpersticker to blow up a Hippie: "Don't blame me, I voted for a natural born American citizen".

I sure as hell am not a Birther, but damn that's funny.

65 Barry, a Sidewinder is a missile. It is not a Hawiian pig snout butt plug.

66

The road forward!

ObamaCare Off-ramp: 2009 miles

Obamagration Off-ramp: 2010 miles

Obamawarming Off-ramp: 2011 miles

Obama Presi-didn't Off-ramp: 2012 miles

Sarah Palin On-ramp: 2013 miles

 

* He said "Sarah Palin on-ramp" (snigger, giggle)

67 War Tax, fight support for our troops, increase demand to quit quo pro.

68 Whatever Obama's decision, it remains as ever wait and see to change with the time of day.

69

The number 34k was a poll tested, focus grouped #, that allows him to take both side of the fence. Reasearched out the ass.

Rahm came up with this #. 33k, not enough to satify the Conservatives. 36k, too many too piss off the lefty hippie shitbags.

70

(80,000 + 40,000 + 20,000) divided by 3 options = 46,667 troops.

So you're scratching your head wondering how President Split the Difference arrived at 34000.  You need to know the 4th "secret"option of 0.

(80,000 + 40,000 + 20,000 + 0)/4 = 35,000

Which is the real answer, just with 1000 of the troops as National Guardsmen from the Ohio 99th Congressional district.

71 #65 - Yes it is.  Here, let me show you. 

72 34 thousand? What's that, Worfs daily calorie intake?

73 What about the war on Pakistan?  Did this critical front in the war, as proclaimed by CIC Obama, fall off of the map?

74 I'm gonna toot my own horn here.

According to this article:

http://tinyurl.com/ylcm77m

"The president said he would announce his decision on how many additional soldiers to deploy to Afghanistan after Thanksgiving."

I predicted exactly this, on this blog's comments, just a week or so ago. 0bama is trying to BURY THE STORY by announcing his decision between Thanksgiving and Christmas, when a lot of people simply are not paying attention to politics due to the holiday season.

Just as the House voted on health care on a Saturday night...and the Senate voted on health care on a Saturday night...they are intentionally making hugely important decisions WHEN ALMOST NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.

This is an INTENTIONAL STRATEGY. And inherently anti-democratic, as well.

75 Obama is expected to announce his long-awaited decision on Dec. 1, followed by meetings on Capitol Hill aimed at winning congressional support amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury

Oooooh. So all of a sudden the Democrats are super concerned about being fiscally responsible. If this sentence wasn't so infuriating, it would be hysterically funny. These people are such assholes.

76 "This plan will increase troops, bring stability to the region, and save money...by not giving the troops any ammo"--BHO

77

OT

Sorry to go off topic, but I'm laughing out loud. Chucky Johnson is so hard up for scratch he is now peddling calenders of his lame assed photos. Jebus, I can't stop giggling...

78
barry's bumper sticker:

This vehicle stops at all rest stops
for anonymous wide stancing

79

Obams golf partner: "my handicap is a seven, what' yours?"

BHO: "My handicap is inneffectual leadership"

80 This is the most people Obama's put to work yet.

81 I didn't know "34,000" was an answer in the "Magic 8-Ball". 

82 Now, now, we all know how uncomfortable the Left is with open-ended commitments with no set end date -- you know, like the NATO treaty, or the Constitution.

83
Have you ever missed your exit and had to drive all over hell while your wife yelled at you and your kids got all cranky? I'm not gonna do that!

84

Sorry to go off topic, but I'm laughing out loud. Chucky Johnson is so hard up for scratch he is now peddling calenders of his lame assed photos. Jebus, I can't stop giggling...

Posted by: maddogg at November 24, 2009 01:31 PM (OlN4e)

He should claim that he got the fenceposts, bicycle parts and tankers to pose nude especially for this LGF fundraising event.

85 You guys have your 34,000 number theories all wrong.  It's quite simple:

Obama took 80,000, 40,000, 20,000 and wrote those figures on pieces of paper.  He gave those pieces of paper to his mother-in-law.  She then evoked the ancient Santeria ritual of feeding pieces of paper to a chicken and then slaughtering the chicken.  The dead chicken was handed to Michelle who put on her wide leather chicken-tossing belt and slammed the carcass 3x against the wall of the Oval Office.  Then the mother-in-law stared at the chicken-blood splatter while drinking a bottle of Night Train until she thought she could see a number. 

I mean, c'mon guys, DUH!

86

maddog

 He is a shameless carnival barker.The tip jar button on every thread now calendars,what's next furry lizard bike seat covers?

87 OT: Funny one

Sorry, posted the last one in the wrong thread.

88

barry's bumper sticker:

This vehicle stops at all rest stops
for anonymous wide stancing

 

I should read, "Caution, this vehicle stops for random bowing!"

89

"General, you give me enough tanks and gas, and I'll go through that off-ramp like shit through a goose."

- George Patton

90 Sarah Palin On-ramp: 2013 miles

Watch it.

91

Don Rumsfeld came up with the war-plan off-ramps. Any units he deemed extraneous to War Plan 1003V were supposed to be off-ramped off the deployment schedule and not sent. He tried dumping the 101st off an off-ramp. Until we put our gear on the ships we weren't sure if we were going or not. We'd been thoroughly jacked around. I hate Rumsfeld.

34K is not an insurmountable come-down from 40K. There are other issues at work here. The 82nd Airborne, which is supposed to be the untouchable strategic reserve division saved for contingencies, has been on the normal routine deployment merry go round. They're lucky to have one brigade ready to go home on Bragg, where the rest of the Division would be ready to follow the DRB out the door from Green Ramp. Now those follow-on brigades are already deployed somewhere else. We need that strategic reserve back. I'm not saying the 6K differential will be solely from the 82nd though.

With North Korea, Iran, and other issues, there are some of us who don't want to create a giant footprint in Afghanistan like we had in Iraq. There are already plenty of gainfully unemployed people at KAF and Bagram. The logistics of getting those mouths fed is a little tougher, so you don't want a big rear echelon soaking up supplies and not contributing.

92 If Urkel makes it to 2012 I will be amazed.

93

But we in it shall be remembered-
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that takes the off ramp with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in Washington now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That found an off ramp with us upon Saint Crispin's day!

Posted by: Obama V at November 24, 2009 12:54 PM (xxgag)

"Once more unto the off-ramp, dear friends, once more"

- (ibid)

94
President Hamid Karzai won't keep his promises to root out corruption

et tu Barry?

95

I'm open to correction on this but I don't remember a major war that was paid for as we went.

First, great up date Drew. Second, the only war we paid for on a "as we go" basis was the Spanish-American War. In that case, Congress imposed a tax on telephone users to finance the war. Of course, at the turn of the 20th century, only the rich had phones, so, the theory went, only the rich would have to pay. Trouble was, once the war ended, the tax didn't. It was kept in place until, and my memory is a little fuzzy here, 2005 or 2006.  So, in other words, the tax to finance the war outlasted the actual war by over 100 years.

Third, I am not sure I would call the Spanish-American War a "major" war. I believe I read somewhere that more of our troops died of malaria than combat.

Fourth, and the larger point, isn't this the same war the President called a "war of necessity". If so, then fight the damn thing to win. If not, then just leave. Really. If you aren't going to fight it to win it then get the hell out. I'd rather you fight the war to win it. But, if "The One" isn't going to do that, then just leave.

96 All your Off Ramps are belong to us!

97

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Not sold in any store.

98 You know, we gave the military a chance to fix their screwups and win the war, but they weren't up to the task.  We're forced to pull the plug.

99 War Bonds? Likely the safest bet since barry will drag the WOT out forever with his diddling.

100

The road forward!

ObamaCare Off-ramp: 2009 miles

Obamagration Off-ramp: 2010 miles

Obamawarming Off-ramp: 2011 miles

Obama Presi-didn't Off-ramp: 2012 miles

Sarah Palin On-ramp: 2013 miles

 

* He said "Sarah Palin on-ramp" (snigger, giggle)

Posted by: sherlock at November 24, 2009 01:21 PM (ZrS0c)

Antelope Valley Expressway, one mile.

Antelope Valley Expressway, one-half mile.

Antelope Valley Expressway, one-quarter mile.

Antelope Valley Expressway, one-eighth mile.

Antelope Valley Expressway, one-sixteenth mile.

Antelope Valley Expressway, one-thirty-second mile.

"They never come up into the hills!"

101 77 Sorry to go off topic, but I'm laughing out loud. Chucky Johnson is so hard up for scratch he is now peddling calenders of his lame assed photos.
Posted by: maddogg

In other words, he's begging for another YouTube about him.

102 If we lived here,
We'd be home by now

103 Well this is new, the Nancy in Chief probably came up with the term "off ramp" as a logical term, in his mind to pressure the Afghanistan government to do something that the "O" would view as a positive step in getting their acts together, which probably means they better start looking like Cuba or something similar.

The Taliban of course have probably figured out what the term "off ramp" means and are laughing their asses off.

I predict that this war will end with Obama bowing to a man in a dark turban with a scruffy beard that reaches his waist.

104
I had to lose the war in order to win it.

105 Your destination is rarely the "off ramp" unless you have a flat tire.

106

"You may take the off-ramp when ready, Gridley."

- Commodore George Dewey

107 Four months to consider the general's request and then to opt for an "above-medium" risk option.

Present!

108

Off ramp to Iran?

I know. sigh

109 I was for the off-ramp, before I was against the off-ramp.

110 34K is not an insurmountable come-down from 40K. There are other issues at work here.

So, in your opinion there's too big a deal being made out of this?

111 To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.

The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours' term.

All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well known American humanity.

The German Commander.

To which General MacAuliffe famously replied with the single word:

"OFF-RAMP!"

 

112 Maybe barry was telling Bawney.."get off my rump?'.

113 You gotta watch those off ramps. Especially late at night. And you have been drinking. Just saying.

114

"First we're going to find the off-ramp, and then we're going to take it."

-Gen Colin Powell

115 America needs to learn to be more humble.  Losing a war is a part of that process.

116 I never should have trusted this Garmin...fucking off ramp is a cow path.

117 Let's not act surprised folks.  Rememba', this is a Preznit who was admittedly "uncomfortable with the concept of victory".  How Churchillian....

118 Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force! You are about to embark upon the Great Offramp! Gen Dwight D Eisenhower

119 Wars are never won by taking the off-ramp for your country. Wars are won by making the other poor sorry son-of-a-bitch take the off-ramp for HIS country!

120 Jiggering the levels of troops to apply and withdraw force as necessary is reminiscent of McNamara's bombing campaign of gradual escalation, surging the bombers until the North Vietnamese agree to negotiate and then standing down when the talks started and then up again when they stalled.  That's how we won Vietnam.

121

To which General MacAuliffe famously replied with the single word:

"OFF-RAMP!"

Posted by: stuiec at November 24, 2009 01:54 PM (7AOgy)

Heh.  In his defense, Bambi has no nuts.

122 Thanks to my many, many years of sucking off the public teat, we have many, many fine off-ramps in West Virginia. Most of them, in fact, are named "the Robert Bryd Off-Ramp". Now, excuse me, I have to take a nap.

123 "We have not yet begun to Off-Ramp".

124 102 If we lived here,
We'd be home by now

Posted by: Porgy Tirebiter at November 24, 2009 01:50 PM (+CLh/)

"Oh, my, look at the time!  I'll be late for my off-ramp club!"

"Gee, Mom, isn't that off-ramp built yet?"

"No, son!" *SOCK* "And it won't be" *GRUNT* "until free hands in both Tehran and Pyongyang are able to press the same button at the same time!"

"Okay, Dad, I give, I give!  Can I finish my groat clusters now?"

"So long as you stay out of trouble, son.  Your shenanigans could cost me this election!"

125
Nuance:

"A War of Necessity" does not mean "Win at all costs". It means "Aw, geez. Can I just pretend I'm at war?"

126 The victorious warrior takes the off-ramp first and then goes to war.  The defeated warrior goes to war and then looks for the off-ramp.

127 The victor will never be asked if he took the off-ramp.

128

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed down the off-ramp!"

- Admiral David Farragut

129 Damn the off-ramps! Full speed ahead!

130

Trying to find any mention of the term in Mil History. Just can't.

Maybe Sherman was looking for an off ramp to the sea?

131 One off-ramp is a tragedy.  A million off-ramps are a statistic.

132
Let's call them "O-Ramps"

133
Next Exit 2 Weeks
Last Chance for Astrolube for 3 Years

134 So I got this hot 69' vintage Porsche 911, OK the rear tires are a little soft so she's over steering like a pissed off bronco, the stearing gear is maybe a little sloppy, and the two driver side tires are bald as a baby's ass, and I plan to hit this off ramp doing about 130mph.

What could possibly go wrong?

135 Nuance:

"A War of Necessity" does not mean "Win at all costs". It means "Aw, geez. Can I just pretend I'm at war?"

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2009 01:58 PM (FcR7P)

A "war of necessity" means "I need this war to make myself look hawkish enough to get elected.  After that's accomplished, screw it."

136

"If I say it's safe to take this offramp, Captain, then it's safe to take this offramp!"

-LTC Bill Kilgore

137 As not what your country can do for you. Ask where the off-ramp is for your country.

138

We shall fight them on the beaches,

we shall fight them on the landing grounds,

we shall....

(You know where this was going right? But I can't do it to old Winston.)

139

amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury

NOW you're worried????

the White House is incensed by leaks on its Afghanistan policy that didn't originate in the White House 

Leaks are SUPPOSED TO originate in the White House???

and everybody else is blithely unaffected by the war."

No, we're affected. You just don't know it.

 

 

140 He does not WANT the war to be won.  He is a typical far leftist.  They HATE the military.  Always did,  Always will.  To them, we are "baby killers".  But who is the real "baby killers".  You got that right, the pro-abortion leftards.

He wants  just enough to get troops killed and save face politically, but not enough to win it.

141 We have 250 million soldiers ready to take the off-ramp for their country.

142 Whatta ya know.  "Commitments" have 'off ramps'.  HEY!  All you Afgans, 'commit' to us, we've got your back!

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking idiots!

143 I had a nice off ramp.

144

Posted by: stuiec at November 24, 2009 01:59 PM (7AOgy)

It appears we are in two places at once when we're not anywhere at all.

145
I only regret that I have but one off ramp to give to my country.

146 We love off-ramps more than you love on-ramps.

147 As for "funding the war".  We could have gone a long way on that with the $747 BILLION that was spent on "the non-stimulus Stimulus".

I've got something for Obey; bend over jackass!

148 Hey sailor, is that an off ramp in your pocket, or are you just glad to see us?

149 It is magnificent, but it is not my off-ramp.

150 Off-ramps?  Never heard of 'em.

151 The art of war is of vital importance to the State. In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the Off Ramp.

152 We can improve the length and staying power of your off ramp.

153

The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Bow to him as soon as you can. Dither as hard as you can, and find an off-ramp.

 U.S. Grant

154 Look, this off ramp stuff is gonna work. Like I was telling the big guy yesterday, the off-ramp will be where Osama Bin Laden will surrender to us, just like the Japanesse Emporer did on the Missouri. It is gonna be a great photo-op. Then, once we divide Iraq into 3 different countries, everything will be great. Hell, we will probably win all 57 states when we run for re-election. Why is Hillary measuring the drapes in my office again?

155 This doofus won't make it through his 1st term.  He'll implode first.

156 Exit light, enter off ramp...

157 "Hey baby - your off-ramp or my off-ramp?

158

"This is my offramp. There are many like it but this one is mine. My offramp is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my offramp is useless. Without my offramp, I am useless."

-CiC and President Offramp, on the occasion of the ribbon cutting to open the latest offramp on Highway One, Kabul, Afghanistan.

159 You can't always get what you want, but you can get an off ramp.

160

The approach is driven in part by concerns that Afghan President Hamid Karzai won't keep his promises to root out corruption and support political reforms, and in part by growing domestic opposition to the war, the U.S. officials said.

Maybe Hamid is waiting for Barry to root out corruption in his own administration first. And do something about ACORN too.

 

161 I shall return to the off-ramp.

162

"Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever got to the off-ramp by dying for his country. He got there by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Men, all this stuff you’ve heard about America not wanting to fight, wanting to take the off-ramp out of the war, makes a lot of sense. Americans traditionally love to quit. All real Americans love the sight of an off-ramp. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble shooter, the fastest runner, the big league ball player, the toughest boxer, when they took the Fifth at the Congressional hearings on steroids use. Americans love an off-ramp and will not tolerate persistence. Americans play to reach the off-ramp all the time. I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who didn't make the off-ramp and laughed. That’s why Americans have never failed to take the off-ramp and will never stay the course in a war. Because the very thought of staying the course is hateful to Americans."

- General George Patton

163 Ah just git to that there off-ramp fustest with the mostest.

164 Off-ramp...isn't that the new club where I grind it?

165 Does this off ramp meet ADA requirements for handicapped access?

166
Not ALL off ramps are good.

167 Go check out Blackfive.

There is talk about Obama wanting to "surrender" to the Taliban.   http://www.blackfive.net/

............and CJ still sucks.

168 England expects very man to find his off ramp.

169 The off-ramp is bad for children and other living things.

170 161

McCarther actually....  A for effort tho... ;-)

171

#161

 Don't mean to be picky,but aren't you supposed to be MacArthur?

172 Does this off ramp meet ADA requirements for handicapped access?

Posted by: Trial Lawyers at November 24, 2009 02:10 PM (SnE5o)

WINNER! If you had post number 165 - go the pay window, cash in your chit and collect your winnings.

173

In the end, there will be only off-ramps.

(to chaos).

174 Friends, Romans, Countrymen.....lend me your off-ramp.

175 Great Leftist Cinema:
Off Ramp on the River Kwai
Battle of the Off Ramp
From Here to Off Ramp
Off Ramp! Off Ramp! Off Ramp!

176 ...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and convenient off ramps...

177 If we put a toll booth on the off-ramp, we could pay for the war, employee union thugs and expand government.......hmmmm, something to think about.

178

To which General MacAuliffe famously replied with the single word:

"OFF-RAMP!"

He should have said, "Wo ist der off-ramp, bitte?"

179

I suppose unbridled narcissism does have its uses...

So does obliviousness.

180 Now I will wait and see what the actual number is before I pound the prez mercilessly.  But this damn off-ramp talk is is not only stupid, but dangerous to the troops as has been noted in this thread.

Now I may not be as smart as "the smartest prezdint evah", but if this plebe was CINC, my answer, about 6 months ago to the good general would have been, "you want 80,000 tops?, well here is 85,000, now go kick some ass and let me know what else you need."

Hey O, if you aren't going to fight to win and win as fast as possible, GET THE FUCK OUT. (IYKWIMAITYD).

181 But they will never take ---- our off ramp!

182

Off-ramps are hell.

183 As God is my witness, I'll never take the off-ramp again.

184 I would say to the House, as I said to those who have joined this government: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and an off-ramp."

We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I can say: It is to take the off-ramp, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to to take the off-ramp away from a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy.

You ask, what is our aim?  I can answer in one word: It is the off-ramp, off-ramp at all costs, off-ramp in spite of all terror, off-ramp, however long and hard the road may be; for without an off-ramp, there is no survival.

- Winston Churchill

185
I came,I saw,I took the off-ramp


 Julius Caesar

186 It's A Wonderful Off-Ramp

187

I think this will be a positive development if:

1.They have coordinated this troop increase with a Pakistani offensive.

2. They will use this increase to give confidence to the warloards for a tribal awakening against the Taliban.  

3. They adjust the ROE and provide the air support needed instead of keeping it at the same level. . 

188 Taking an off-ramp is the same as killing a polar bear.

189 I've taken about 20,000 off-ramps in my life.

190 I say again, bring the troops home.

When the leftards get tired of US cities getting turned to glass and THEY enlist, maybe I will reconsider. But they better not want new, pink camo uniforms.

.............and CJ still sucks.  But I think he likes riding his bicycle without a seat.

191
Hey Guys.....  landing off ramp is definately bad.

192 Take the off-ramp, ye boys from Maine!

193 I knew off-ramps.  I worked with off-ramps.  You, sir, are no off-ramp.

194

Tell me what off-ramp that Grant takes.  I would like to send my other generals a AAA map to it.

- Abraham Lincoln

195 Momma always said life is like an off-ramp, you never know what you are going to get.

196 The ramps are going off all over Europe, we shall not see them on again in our lifetime.

197
Retreats, exit plans, surrender options? Check.

Proceed at 85%!

198 ...And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream of off ramps.

199 Never put off till tomorrow, what you can off-ramp today.

200
Hey!!!  What the hell am I....... chopped liver?????

201 More...
Rebel Without an Off Ramp
An Off Ramp Too Far
O.F.F. R.A.M.P.

202 The off-ramps are melting.

203 What if they tried to build an off-ramp and nobody came?

204

Ramp Off ! piker.

Last one out ramp off the lights

 

205

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall make a bee-line to the off-ramp -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

206 I love the smell of off ramp in the morning.  It smells like appeasement.

207

That's no moon,that's an off-ramp

  Obi-Wan

208 You cannot simultaneously prepare for and prevent taking an off-ramp.

209 And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR OFF-RAMP!

210 TONIGHT WE DINE IN the Dairy Queen by the off ramp.

211 This is all still a scam by obama - he has no intention of staying to win the fight.  Just the fact that his admin leaked the possibility of recognizing a government that included the taliban was the first trial balloon.  Now all the talk of pulling out if Karzai's government won't stop the corruption is nothing more than ENCOURAGING corruption.  I can easily imagine some Afghan government official, who fears for his life and those of his family members, deciding to play both sides - especially when he is considering that the Americans won't be or may not be staying around to protect him and said family.  He will try to get as much cash and influence as possible while probably trying to convince the other side that he is really "undercover" so to speak.  There will definitely be people trying to achieve some sort of compromise which will mean that progress will slow to a crawl, at best.  Once we leave, hte "corrupt" guy has to stay, and hope like hell that he can convince the bad guys that he was really one of them all along.

212 Have none of you any shame? This constant, running, juvenile joke about the off-ramp is cruel. Out of bigotry, hatred, an irrational belief in what God wants you to do, you mock, cruelly, the off-ramp. All the off-ramp wants to do is live a life like you, to retain its dignity, its pride. Instead, you morons of Ace of Spade Headquarters mock the off-ramp. All of you are THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

213 Stranger, go tell the men of Lacedaemon
That we who lie here took the off-ramp as we were ordered.

214 I actually voted for the off-ramps before I voted against them.

215 You guys need to lighten up or we're filing a grievance

216 I'm gonna make him an offer of an off-ramp he can't refuse.

217

Even if you are not interested in off-ramps, off-ramps are interested in you.

218 Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation, and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our secretary of state a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday the Japanese government also launched as attack against Malaya.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam.

Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Wake Island.

And this morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As commander in chief of the Army and Navy I have directed that all measures be taken to find an off-ramp. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

219 Molon Off Ramp

220 My troops may fail to take a position, but are never driven from one, unless there is an off-ramp.

General Stonewall Jackson.

221
First they came for the off ramps, and I did not speak out, because I was not an off ramp

222 No, no, no.   You guys don't realize leftards don't have common sense.  You guys all say "off 'ramp"   But having dealt with stupid drivers,  I suspect they are going to be "texting" and take the off ramp to fast and fail to make the turn.

IE:  One smoking  hunk of sheet metal with a car full of mangled corpses.

223 And yet it's an off-ramp.

224

  A for effort tho... ;-)

Government educated, don't hurt their feelings, it's the best they could do, it's the effort put in not the results that count.

FUCK YOU!!!!!!

That's why we're where we are today and going down the off ramp.

225 I nominate as the new theme song of the Obama Administration AC/DC's "Off-Ramp to Hell."

226 Let them take the off-ramp.

227
"How hard can it be???  We used to blast off ramps all the time back on Tattooine."

228 When off-ramps are outlawed, only outlaws will have off-ramps!

229

The off-ramps are melting.

And . . . Oh my god, they're full of stars!

230 The off-ramp...............the off-ramp...............

231

Dear US,

About those troops you want us to send? We'll get back to you on that.

232 Make love, not off-ramps!

233

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me an off-ramp!

- Patrick Henry

234 With weeping and with laughter,
Still is the story told,
How well Horatius took the off-ramp
In the brave days of old.

235 I am the King of Sweden! And this day I seal with my blood the liberties and religion of the off-ramp.

236 War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
Oh, and off-ramps.

237
I come to bury off ramp, not to praise it.

238 All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the off-ramp out of which victory is evolved.

239 You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy built an off-ramp in Louisiana".

240 What is an "off, off, ramp"

241 Beware the off-ramp/industrial complex.

242 --Paperwork will ruin any military force. And off-ramps. But mainly off-ramps.
 General Chesty Puller.

243 I will not seek nor will I accept the nomination of my party for another term as your off-ramp.

244 You may take the off-ramp when ready, Gridley.

245 You're going to need a bigger off-ramp.

246

Obama is a dimwit.  The idea that he is smart is nonsense.

247 And Caesar declared in a loud voice to those who were present, "Boys, let's take the off-ramp," and led his troops back from the Rubicon.

248 Off-ramps? We don't need no STEENKIN' off-ramps!

249 A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to take the off-ramp.

250

Once more unto the off ramps, dear friends, once more.

King Barry I

251 --In war there is no second prize for the runner-up. But they good burgers at that off-ramp.

 General Omar Bradley.

252 L'off-ramp c'est moi.

253

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should find an off-ramp which impel them to the separation.

254 If I say it's safe to take this offramp, Captain, then it's safe to take this offramp!"

-LTC Bill Kilgore

Charlie don't off-ramp!

I love the smell of off-ramps in the morning....

 

255 "They"? Why, they is the plain and fancy they, that's who "they" is! Caught you, didn't they? Tied a tin can to your tail. Led you in and waltzed you out again. Oh my what a bunch! Big tough ones, hunh? Here you are with a handful of off-ramps, a thumb up your ass, and a big grin to pass the time of day with. They? Who the hell is "they"?

256 The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave... the one who takes the off-ramp.
--Patrick Henry--

257

It will be a great day when

our schools have all the off-ramps that they need

and the air force

has to have a bake sale to buy an

off-ramp

258 Houston, we have an off-ramp.

259 Obama is curled-up in the fecal position, in the back of a white bronco, looking for an off-ramp...

260 Don't off-ramp me, bro.

261

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit off ramps.

Barry McCroskey

262 No off-ramp for oil! No off-ramp for oil!

263
Veni, Vedi, Cepi off vallum (I came, I saw, I took the off ramp)
--Julius Caesar--

264 You guys are killing me with the Off-Ramp stuff.

Well played, well played indeed.

265

Go ahead, make my off ramp -

Dirty Barry Obama

266

Sorry to go off topic, but I'm laughing out loud. Chucky Johnson is so hard up for scratch he is now peddling calenders of his lame assed photos. Jebus, I can't stop giggling...

Which month has the photo of an off-ramp (bicycle lane optional)?

267 Now I am become Death, the off-ramp of worlds.

268

We have nothing to fear but off ramps itself.

Barry Delano Obama

269 If at first you don't succeed, take the off-ramp.

270 "the only people that has to sacrifice"

Obey speaks kitteh?

271 If you build it, they will come.

272 Mad Max: Beyond the Off Ramp

273

"We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it, the U.S. defense official said."

 I'm hardly Julius Caesar when it comes to military strategy, but it seems to me that all the Taliban has to do to achieve victory is ramp up the violence for six months.

274 Oh, What A Lovely Off-Ramp!

275

I want to say one word to you. Just one word.  Are you listening?

OFF RAMPS

276 Damn the torpedoes, take the off-ramp!

277 I hate off-ramps Jock!  I hate 'em!

278 Leve the gun. Take the off-ramp

279

Democrats really don't get the whole legitimate role of the government thing (in fairness a lot Republicans don't either).

Here's something you won't see on a liberal site.

Republicans don't really get the whole legitimate role of the government thing (in fairness a lot of Democrats don't either.)

 

280 The only thing uglier than a battle won, is an off-ramp. Those things gross me right out.

281 All I want for Christmas is an off-ramp

282 95% percent of you knuckleheads are going to get an off-ramp under this administration. Let's see some gratitude!

283 Where is that damn off-ramp, I need to pee.

284 Take your paws off me, you damn dirty off-ramps!

285 Does Obama shake his own dick after taking a piss or does he compromise on that too?

What a fucking RETARD we have in office.

286 one small step for man, one giant off-ramp for mankind...

287 I can haz off-ramp?

288 You had me at off-ramp...

289 Yarbles! Great bolshy yarblockos to you. I'll meet you with chain or nozh or britva anytime, not having you aiming tolchocks at me reasonless. Well, it stands to reason I won't take the off-ramp.

290

Drew,

No offense, but this is the kind of nonsense you get when you have a country that's not serious about fighting a war. 

We were never serious about fighting this.  If we were, Afghanistan would be largely depopulated by now.  And you can mock me all you want, but that's the only way we'll win this. 

No one wanted to fight a total war, well, now you have "war weariness"...(whatever the hell that means).  If Uncle Jimbo's post yesterday about negotiations is even half true, we're in serious deep shit at this point.

I just cannot for the life of me understand why we would go with a military strategy that guarantees eventual defeat (when has "winning hearts and minds" ever worked?  has it ever worked?).  Hey, let's muck around for about a decade or so and really see what the population thinks about prosecuting this war!

And you're right about one thing.  The biggest losers in all this will be the troops who have to deal with this garbage.  That's one reason why I didn't sign up.  I just refuse to put my life on the line for a liberal...

 

291

When you come to an off-ramp in the road, take it.

-Yogi Berra

292

I'm shocked, shocked to find that off ramp is going on here.

Captain Barry Renault

293 Nobody takes that off-ramp any more. It's too crowded.

294 John has a long off-ramp.  Repeat.  John has a long off-ramp.

295 Resistance is futile

296 Vince Carter lives on the off-ramp, but Larry Bird never took the off-ramp.

297 A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we FIGHT...take the off-ramp.

298 I doubt this was some petulant "I'm gonna come up with my own number" declaration of total troops. I have no doubt he handed McChrystal a list of specific warm bodies to be taken to Afghanistan, a list of cooks, psychiatrists, multicultural specialists, and so on.

299 I was always suspicious when Obama and the Democrats decided to account for the funding of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq in the federal budget. So as Obama decides on what strategy to take in Afghanistan Democrats are floating a "tax the rich" proposal to pay for the new deployments. What bothers me about this "pay as you go" strategy is that the cynic in me sees this as a way out of the conflict for Afghanistan for the liberals because if there is a backlash against such taxes the Democrats can just say the American people don't want to be in Afghanistan or anywhere else.

The primary task of the federal government according to the Constitution is to provide for the national defense. The War on Terror (and Afghanistan is certainly a core part of that effort) is certainly an effort that supports our nation's security so the money we pay in taxes already should be paying for this although the idea of war bonds is worth exploring. Unfortunately, the federal government has stuck there hands into many other areas of the lives of American citizens that the Constitution did not expressly condone or authorize so now our government claims they don't have the money to pay for our national defense efforts!

I look forward to the day when Democrats hold up sending money and resources to the next Hurricane Katrina-type disaster because we must figure out how we are going to pay for it first. Do you really believe they would do this? And what is the difference between the two situations when you really want to be honest about it? And you can only keep approaching the rich in this country for more money before they decide to pull up stakes and believe you me they will take their money with them when they leave.

300 fuck the off ramp

301

I'll bet it's a left-lane off-ramp, and Teh Won is driving an overweight truck onto a 3-ton bridge.

302

There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold and she's buying an off ramp to heaven

-Led Obama

303 will old people drive the wrong way on the offramp

304 You take the off ramp, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

305 Where is the laptop off-ramp guy?

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What I want to know is where this 34K number came from.  Was it a revision from one of the original option after a few more details added?  If so, fair enough.  If not...

It's not the average, or median of any of the published options that I've seen. Maybe it's some lefty cynical Obama formula incorporating swing state gender balance and adjusted for Palin book sales.

307 34,000 troops that may not be fully deployed until sometime in 2012 because the roads are bad?  That is a period of over two years!  I heard that on Fox tonight and almost lost my lunch.

Are these reinforcements or replacements?  How many deployments end over the next 2.5 years?  This may be a net reduction!

I think when Gen. McChrystal said last August that he needed 40,000 troops in the next 12 months or the war was lost he meant 12 MONTHS FROM LAST AUGUST!

308 I came,I saw,I took the off-ramp


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309 Who said that? Who the fuck said that? Who's the slimy communist shit twinkle-toed cocksucker who just took the offramp?

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What Would The Off-Ramp do?

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#254 - "Charlie don't off-ramp!"

 

You, my friend, have hit the nail on the head. 

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Ich muss Alle von Ihnen als Defaetistin denunzieren!

Am Ende steht der Seig!

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316 "worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury."
LOL. War Surtax. How about a surtax for the stimulus? or a surtax for social programs?

This is planned for 2010 elections. Afghanistan will hold until those are over, then Dec. 2010, we take an off-ramp.

I suppose the silver lining is this might pressure Karzai slightly to improve. But I bet he thinks he will do just fine without a bunch of Crusaders running around demanding fair elections in Afghanistan but who are cool with Iran not doing so.

Obama probably thinks he will be able to say "Look, I tried to salvage what Bush left me, but it didn't work."

Note, also the timing of KSM trial with 6 months...you'd think they could give our guys a clean shot without Islamists on stage in NYC firin' up the bad guys.

317 "We have to start showing progress within six months on the political side or military side or that's it, the U.S. defense official said."

OK, Obama. If its good enough for the military, its good enough for YOU.

Show massive improvement in unemployment in SIX MONTHS, or you take the OFF RAMP in 2010.

318

I did NOT commit to 34k more troops.  I merely floated that number.

Also, please note that with winter rapidly approaching, these (potential) troops will be at their bases reading, recreating and taking self-improvement classes. Just like in Iraq these days.

Peace. Inshallah. Out.

319

"When did they start sneaking the term "off-ramp" into the discussion?"

 

It's Obama's Ausfahrt Doctrine

320 "If we have to pay for the health care bill, we should pay for the war as well ... by having a war surtax," Obey told ABC News in an interview that aired Monday. "The problem in this country with this issue is that the only people that has to sacrifice are military families and they've had to go to the well again and again and again and again, and everybody else is blithely unaffected by the war."

First of all, those increased taxes would fall as squarely on the backs of the military families he says he cares about, as they would on "everybody else", so his concern is pretty laughable and transparent.

But second, he's apparently only bringing up the issue of a war tax to begin with, because they're talking tax hikes over at the universal health care table and Obey's caught the taxin' fevah.

321 Needless to say the "off ramps" thing was just loony, but kudos to the MSM for letting it through - I can't imagine anything more damning to a leadership that wants to be taken seriously in military matters.

I was watching a Big O Productions (tm) press conference the other day when they related that item, and where Obama went on and on about how he thought Afghanistan was handled wrongly by That Other Administration, but had little to nothing to say about what he was going to do about it other than to say "just wait - all will be made clear... next week".

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