1 You know what this series needs? Ewoks.















No really, they suck so bad the rest of the show would look good in comparison.


Just saying......

Well that and maybe a better role for Major Rack. But you morons already thought of that.

2 Lesbian kiss on there already..  The chick that use to be on ER made out with some chick that use to be on 24.. 

3

Each one of those BSG chicks is like the antidote to Viagra. Can you post a hot cheerleader chick to make up for this obvious treachery Malor ?

4 Those happier times are long gone. Replaced by drama garbage posing as sci-fi (or is this what Sy Fy is). Little on action and story, lots on lesbian relationships and stripper alcoholics raising kids badly.

Question: where is the crew getting all its food? They've got water with microbes they've had to get rid of by poisoning themselves, but where's the food coming from? How are they exercising on the ship sans a good quantity of complete protein? Showers? Toilets?

5 Nice Female Cylons are always great!

6 This episode Eli find some Ancient 3D porn.

Next episode ship is out of power again and Eli gets blamed.

7 When Rush accessed the database for the first time, the look on his face was as if he saw the CRU emails proving global warming to be a fraud.

8 Cylons in Nylons: those were the days!

But the final episode of BSG sucked. How come final episodes just about always suck?

9 Why is this a "thing"?  I watched it a couple of times.  No Dirk Benedict.  Did he get canned, or what?

10 The lesbian P0rn almost makes up for last weeks stupid story, but not quite.  I stopped watching after the hot distaff sex.

11 I think their scrubbers should be saturated by now.

12 Man I have this whole love/hate thing with Chloe.

13

"Question: where is the crew getting all its food?"

Not watching this week's episode yet, but I thought they were stuck with whatever rations they brought with them--some PowerBars and some kinda gruel/oatmeal/vomit-looking substance.  I imagine hunger would be down accordingly.  Though maybe someone's laid claim to the Senator's body when they run out of food.  Wonder how a vaccum works for preserving meat?

I'm going back to Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for the time being.

I'll watch this later when my other means are available (not to mention being able to fast forward).  I wonder how many times people will whine and cry this episode.  Just for once I'd like to see someone to say "Man (or woman, to be PC) the fuck up and deal with it! You can cry once we've survived!"

14 And so apropos, the show ends with, amongst other things, a sex scene. This is not the Stargate that I have known...

15 Midseason finale next week?

16 WTF WTF WTF

How did they leave the "Time" episode just hanging and unresolved.

WTF?!

Argh this show pisses me off so bad.

17

"But the final episode of BSG sucked. How come final episodes just about always suck?"

I think SciFi (or SyFy I guess now) has adopted the policy of "you'll take whatever crap we give you in the final episode, at least we didn't cancel the show with a cliffhanger!"

Parts of the last episode of BSG were really bad though.  Complete cop outs and nonsense on several plot points, almost like the writers didn't think ahead until the last two episodes only to think "Oh, Shit, I guess we better come up with some way to end everything!"

18 Sir Elliot, the time episode has been done by so many scifi (syfy?) shows, there's no reason to hash thru each iteration of the timeline.  You just know they keep doing it until they finally get it right.  I actually liked that about last weeks show.

Man I have this whole love/hate thing with Chloe. Posted by: Rodney at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM

I've noticed that some lighting is not favorable to her looks.

19

I'm about to give up on this show...  it doesn't make sense.  I've tried to give it some time.. let it develop.. do it's thing until I understood.. but  what just happened?  Is everyone going to die off from that bug in Time or did they just fix it without a mention?

Also, anyone in the military, was it like that?  The guys I know that are former military are pretty square when under pressure.  I can't imagine a special forces team in Afghanistan going nuts like this crew, much less the folks who would clear to be sent offworld.  I can understand the civilians melting down a bit, but the military guys are just nuts.

20 Allen   this show is not the real world, as you just realized.. This is "Hurray for Hollywood" We write it, you will believe it.  just like Obama and Company.

21 Damn Canadians

22 "Time" wasn't unresolved.  The next loop through would have been a five minute episode where they wtched the tape and did what they were told.  Or didn't and left another tape saying "No, really, listen this time." 

I agree that the sex is overdone.  It's not some payoff to the relationships the writers want to pretend it is, it's all throwaway.  Except maybe the bit involving the Commander and his wife.  Or it would have been if Talbot was actually having an affair with her.  Even in the case of the lesbians, it served no purpose other than to say "Look, we have lesbians!"

As for the facilities, the ship was designed for Ancients that were basically human, so basic sanitation needs are probably dealt with.  But I'd rather see details like that established than all the pointless sex.

It's not bad enough that I'm going to stop watching.  Yet.  But they really need to get *something* going.  Like maybe the Ancient on board is a serial killer or something.

23 "Is everyone going to die off from that bug in Time or did they just fix it without a mention?"

It went unsaid in Time, but presumably they all injected themselves with venom from the chest-drilling creatures inhabiting the jungle/swamp planet they should have called Degobah. So they're all good now since they've come out of their comas. Or something. And they can freely drink water contaminated with parasites.

24 This show is just so damn boring that I went back and watched Monk instead. 

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26 Sure, Stargate Universe was good tonight, but did anyone see its sister show, One Life To Live this afternoon?  It was dreamy.  It's like Stargate Universe and General Hospital combined, if such a thing is possible.

27 You know what Stargate Universe is missing?  People with amnesia and multiple personalities.  Battlestar Galactica at least had some people with dual personalities that is so typical of daytime soaps, but Stargate Universe doesn't even have THAT!  And of course neither of them have used amnesia to any daytime emmy quality effect.

I think I have the solution though.  Have two of the SU people get married, and then in the next show have a long lost brother to the married guy pop out of the stargate with no memory of who he is or how he got there.  Also, he has to at some point have slept with his brother's new wife.

That would be soap opera gold!  Er... Stargate Universe or Battlestar Galactica gold!

28

Is it only me, or does it creep you out when a loved one (on Earth) is having sex... with someone elses body!!! I mean eeeew! It is NOT your spouse/bf/gf, it's a stranger! (well physically). It's like having sex with the telephone. Not over the phone... with the phone.

Plus the lesbian sex thing is soooo overdone these days. Last week's FlashForward? Lesbian sex. Heroes? Lesbians. Gravity? Nope... oh wait! Former lesbian 'partners'.

Sorry writers, it is the opposite of 'edgy' and the antithesis of 'groundbreaking'.

 

 

29 A show about ass cancer would be more interesting.

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31 28

Is it only me, or does it creep you out when a loved one (on Earth) is having sex... with someone elses body!!! I mean eeeew! It is NOT your spouse/bf/gf, it's a stranger! (well physically). It's like having sex with the telephone. Not over the phone... with the phone.

Glad I'm not the only one that's thought about that. I mean, it's ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Aren't there rules about this? What if the person who's body you are using is married? And you have sex with a woman. What if you cause relationship problems with someone's who's body you just inhabited?

I actually don't want to know since They may just actually cover that issue instead of... well, figuring out how to move the ship or some other scientific stuff.

32 So they DON'T resolve last week's cliffhanger and this week they are already jumping the lesbian shark?

sniff sniff... what's that?  desperation I think.

Honestly, I only tune in to see how Eli gets kicked in the balls this week.

33 Ugh.  Another music montage.  I think we went seasons of SG-1 and no montages.

God help us.

34 I'm glad the weasel got his ass kicked. 

35 When it gets to the point of "Oh you can figure out how the time paradox resolved itself so there is no need to show it" it's getting to the point where I'm going to stop watching.

So far the stargate itself is the best character, and it didn't even appear in this episode.

36 Of all the types of conflict to bring into a story, I hate infidelity conflict the most--especially when it's weasel driven.

37 Heeeeyyyyyy!!!!!!

38 WTF WTF WTF

How did they leave the "Time" episode just hanging and unresolved.

I thought so at first too, so I watched that last scene again. The idea, I think, was that Scott(?) recorded that message on the Kino and then threw it in the Stargate, where it went back in time. Then the people on the past version of the ship followed his instructions and saved everybody.

I think? They did a really shitty job of getting that across. They outclevered themselves.

39

I got the impression they were going to take it up again later--some kind of time shit, you know.  Maybe the keno goes into the future from where it's mailed back in time?

Why did they call it a keno instead of a blackjack or, say, a Texas hold'em?  "Send the Texas hold'em through."  "Why is that Texas hold'em hovering around my work station?"

40

It's like Stargate Universe and General Hospital combined, if such a thing is possible.
Deep Space Nine before the war started.

41 Ok,

So I started watching SG-1 from the beginning again. 

By episode 9 they had done some serious crap.  This show is just moody as heck.

42 I think the happy time is ought to know the need of myself.So i have to sell the laptop battery for the company.

43

Deep Space Nine before the war started.

Watch it, or we'll have to throw hands here.

DS-9 kicked ass from the word go.  Ben Sisko was more of a bad ass than even James T. Kirk.

It was The Next Generation that sucked before they de-pussified Picard and kirkified him instead.  (And TNG also had its overly and stupidly sexual moments, and not the good sexuality, like The Original Series.)

 

 

p.s.  Is that POS show, what was it? . . . um, Stargate: Universe, I think, it that still on? 

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45 I got canned so they could film this crap?!

46

Ok I had the ending of Time figured out as soon as they did it. I think who ever mentioned it earlier is right the whole time loop thing has just been done so many times that they just let us put the final pieces together ourselves no biggie.

On to the Lesbians! If this show is going to jump the Lesbian shark this early I say why not go whole hog... ALIEN LESBIAN CAT GIRLS!!!!! IN SPACE!!!!!!!!!!

You know it would be awsome.

Did I forget to mention that the ALIEN LESBIAN CAT GIRLS!!!!! IN SPACE!!!!!!!!!! would be wearing BIKINIS!!!!!!!!!

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49 Ugh.  Another music montage.  I think we went seasons of SG-1 and no montages.

Two montages.  Or maybe the same one twice.  Speaking of pointless sex, does anyone know who psychotic space marine was sleeping with?  I thought it was Chloe until I saw him the second time around.

Deep Space Nine before the war started.

I have mixed memories of DS9.  Mostly because the UPN affiliate in San Antonio I was watching at the time up and decided they were going to drop Babylon 5 for it and for some reason aired original series episodes in the timeslot.  Oh and they did this the week we were finally supposed to see Kosh.  Which never made any sense because I was watching DS9 on some version of WGN.  Anyway, I don't remember much of DS9 before that point except maybe the tribble episode.  Loved the effect Garrick had on people, though.

50 Did I forget to mention that the ALIEN LESBIAN CAT GIRLS!!!!! IN SPACE!!!!!!!!!! would be wearing BIKINIS!!!!!!!!!

Might as well go all the way to tentacles.

51 Also, anyone in the military, was it like that?  The guys I know that are former military are pretty square when under pressure.  I can't imagine a special forces team in Afghanistan going nuts like this crew, much less the folks who would clear to be sent offworld.  I can understand the civilians melting down a bit, but the military guys are just nuts.

In Hollywood, all of the military is a) nuts, b) involved in a huge conspiracy and cover up, c) too dumb to hold a hammer without slamming themselves in the nuts, d) some combination of one or all of the above.  In actuality, far from being the robots that they are portrayed as, you have to be smart to operate the gear the military has and even smarter to fix that gear.  Even basic riflemen have to have some smarts, stupid soldiers get (the wrong) people killed.  They have an entrance exam (ASVAB) for a reason.

Also, in order to get cleared for certain types of duty (submarine duty, for example) you have to be carefully vetted.  I'm sure that anything doing with space or stargates would be considered special duty.

I just watch the show to see when the fat guy is going to fall down and accidentally get his dick stuck in Lt Hotpants.

52

Might as well go all the way to tentacles

OOOOH tentacles!!

All hail Methos! Master and Creator of all things tentaclely or ish or...? Any way all hail Methos.

Quick question oh Glorious Methos. Will the tentacles come before, during, or after the ALIEN LESBIAN CAT GIRLS!!!!! kidnap the female crew members of the Destiny durning the group shower time?

53 "does anyone know who psychotic space marine was sleeping with?"

It's the female scientist, the one who was evasive in her answers during her psych eval.

54

GGE:  I can't imagine a special forces team in Afghanistan going nuts like this crew,

 

UR:  I can assure you, these writers know NOTHING about Special Forces.  For one thing, there is only ONE Special Forces.  All the others can call themselves what they want, but they ain't SF.  SOF, maybe.  But still.

 

Besides, a REAL Special Forces unit would have already located and consumed all available beer, turned the sonic shower into a whirlpool and would have found, and stolen, a Jeep from someplace or another.

 

I can further prove they're not real SF with one simple observation -- None of them were wearing a Star Sapphire ring or a Rolex.

 

Freaking posers.

55

I've only watched two episodes so far and just started watching SG1 reruns a couple months ago, so I don't know a lot...But I can barely tell the two shows are related. This one seems much closer to depicting military people as Hollywood sees them. Even one of the Air Force dudes on earth had his hat/cover on inside just to make him look more official 'n stuff. Every stupid Hollywood show or movie does that, but SG1 seemed better, if not perfect.

And the whole having sex with someone else's body: damn! Picking up diseases or getting someone pregnant would be pretty rotten.

I hope the Earth/relationship stuff fades a bit. I get the point that they are beating us over the head with: relationships are hard when you can't physically be there. And when you can be but people don't know it's you. And when you try to make up for not knowing you had a kid for 8 years with one visit by not-really-you.

 

56

It's kind of a little bit of a takeoff of the dozens of novels that have been written about 'Generation Ships' but with a little bit of  Oprah-Approved Earth Pop Culture, some generous helpings of Soap Opera along with some liberal type sexual fantasies.

 

I mean, who can help but not think "menage a trois" when someone else is having sex with your very own sweetie?  While you're digging it.  And what red-blooded American boy has never fantasized about two lesbians getting it on?

 

Next, there will be the usual social and moral redeeming values type of preaching so typical of libtards.

 

I can usually let that go if it's in small samples.  But libtards generally take it to extremes. 

 

Not that I mind being preached to by someone who has never done anything, been anywhere, taken any chances, risked his or her life, stood for anything and whose main goal in life is to impress others with his or her vastly superior intelligence and education.

 

Not at all.  Don't bother me.  Nope.

57

Ben Sisko was more of a bad ass than even James T. Kirk.

Oh, yeah, all of those macho scenes of little black kid and little Ferenghi kid helping each other get through life were so not gay and not like a soap opera set on a space station at all.

Oh-oh, Doctor Limey's parents are showing up--I hope they don't spill the beans about him being genetically engineered because then he'd have to put up with homophobia sexism racism well, with something anyways. And I hope the Irish guy doesn't start beating his Japanese wife because marriage is hard.

And not mentioning TNG: Ripping Off Original Trek For The First Three Seasons But With An Effete Frog Pussy From A Faggy English Public School In Charge doesn't mean I was endorsing it.

DS9 (and even Sisko) did get okay--after they dropped the soap opera and started a friggin' war! Oh, and had the alternate dimension where Lt Keira [sp?] was a hot bisexual babe in tight leatherette outfits. (Or the body-switching-race chick going lez with her/his former wife.)

58

The war with the Dominion was spectacular, but even from the beginning of DS9, you could tell that you were not in Roddenberry's Trek anymore.  Unlike the travesty that is SGU, DS9 showed how to properly take a franchise in a darker and newer direction.

Major Kira was OK, in either universe, but Jadzia and her spots (which went all the way down) were it.

59 Special Forces? I must have missed a reference somewhere, because I assumed all the military we were seeing were USAF. I was comfortable with this assumption because the (admittedly small sample of) USAF types I've met in the last few years were all (1.) immature to the point of being mentally unstable, and (2.) about as "military" as my brother's cats.

Now its true the ones I met were all support and technical types, but still ... they were walking, talking embodiments of why Marines refer to the USAF as a paramilitary organization.

And in their defense, I have to admit, even the one who worked at a radio station in Europe would have held up better than some of the "military" types in this show are doing so far.

The only thing that can save this show is Lt. Major Rack. More of her and less of the others, please.

60

In Hollywood, all of the military is a) nuts . . .

And in much of the Dem Party too.  To them, every vet is a psycho, ticking timebomb ready to go off -- witness their attempts to explain Nidal Hasan's actions as being PTSD.

61

46 ALIEN LESBIAN CAT GIRLS!!!!! IN SPACE!!!!!!!!!! - southdakotaboy

You are my new best friend SDB! And so close (I'm in Manitoba, eh?) It's the cold cold winter nights that make us think of cat-girls, I'm sure of it.

Now if we could get a cross-over episode where they meet All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku-Nuku http://tinyurl.com/y94x9lx that would be sweet!

Mmmm, Major Rake and Nuku-Nuku in hot alien trans-species lesbian sex! I'll be in my bunk... for quite a while.

62

I think the last two episodes have really been pretty good.

Compared to SG-1, the character development in this series is almost incomparably better.  The SG-1 characters were flat; without Richard Dean Anderson it would have been unwatchable.

The one thing SG-1 really had going for it was the fight against various civilizations of techno-religious tyrants who are clashing with, essentially, the U.S. military, and finding it a tough go.  My favorite scene in the whole franchise is when Tiolk sees a digital watch and immediately realizes the implications.  That and the Stinger missile taking out an alien craft really set the tone for the whle series.

I guess that's what SG-U is missing: there's no great nemesis, just a lot of dark drama revolving around character development.  It's clearly trying to be BSG in that respect, but it lacks a grand enemy like the Cylons.

63 My husband's comment from last night: "they're not even attractive lesbians anyone would want to have sex with, so why do they need to show it?"

64

" My husband's comment from last night: 'they're not even attractive lesbians anyone would want to have sex with, so why do they need to show it?'"

_____________

Maybe they needed to boost ratings in the key "unattractive lesbain viewer" group.

65 Just saw Time and Life as my first forays into this series.
Time was better.  Life was pretty much soap opera crap.  I prefer the scifi stuff like time travel, not the relationship goo that was on display.  Still, the characters are wooden and they try really hard to have dimension and fall flat doing so.  It's almost as bad as the acting in the New Moon/Twilight series (please don't make me watch that again).

66

What is really amusing about this thread and the others in the series is that it is the same people complaining bitterly about a series they cannot stand. Why are you still watching if it causes you such pain? Or is it just the chance to complain? You would bitch if you were hanged with new rope!

And DS9? Don't get me started. That was just the rip-off of JMS Babylon 5 in TNG's universe. The reason it sucked so hard until season two was that they only had the initial pilot and some liner notes to work on. And while it improved a little through its run, it was never anywhere near as good as it should have been because of the nonsense of the TNGification of the Star Trek premise. The worst trope of which was invent a new game-changer technology and then never look at it again or realize its implications in the larger scope of things. All the TNG spawned shows had that in spades.

67 66 Why are you still watching if it causes you such pain? Or is it just the chance to complain?

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